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One on One: Susane Lee · I Am All In with Scott Patterson

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  Speaker 1: I am all in. Oh, I'll kiss you.
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  Speaker 2: I Am all in with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, we're going to talk to Suzanne Lee, who played
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  Speaker 1: the role of Kean for five episodes in two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and three two thousand and four. First appearance was in
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  Speaker 1: season four, episode nineteen After Boom. Last appearance was in
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  Speaker 1: season six, episode nineteen, I Get a sidekick out of You.
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  Speaker 1: Kean is a Korean exchange student who for a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the time finds American customs odd or foreign. She
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  Speaker 1: appears studious and dutiful. She is reverent to her hosts,
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  Speaker 1: Miss Kim, but eventually befriends Lane becomes more expressive of
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  Speaker 1: her personal tastes and character. A little bit about her.
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  Speaker 1: She was born in New York, Texas. Susanne graduated from
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  Speaker 1: Duke University with a BS in psychology, a minor in theater.
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  Speaker 1: A summer drama program in London and an apprenticeship at
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  Speaker 1: the renowned Williamstown Theater Festival both solidified her decision to
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  Speaker 1: pursue acting wholeheartedly. She moved to Los Angeles and booked
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  Speaker 1: her first theatrical role of Kean, recurring on Gilmore Girls.
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  Speaker 1: On stage, she has performed as Janet in Kim's Convenience
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  Speaker 1: at the Laguna Playhouse, Medieval Journey at the Walt Disney
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  Speaker 1: Concert Hall, What's Wrong with Angry at Celebration Theater, and
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  Speaker 1: in LA's premiere of four Thousand Miles at the Sierra
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  Speaker 1: Madre Playhouse. TV film highlights include working on such shows
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  Speaker 1: as Madam Secretary, Gray's Anatomy, Rizzolian Isles, Snowfall, and The
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  Speaker 1: Soloist Opposite Jamie Fox. Suzanne Land, a dark comedic series
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  Speaker 1: she co created and co wrote with her partner Andrew Oh,
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  Speaker 1: had its world premiere at Some Dance and went on
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  Speaker 1: to win Best Short Form Comedy at the New York
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  Speaker 1: TV Fest, Best Short Comedy at ITV Fest, and Best
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  Speaker 1: Actress at Sin in Spain. Susan, thank you so much
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  Speaker 1: for comment on Listen. You got a degree in psychology
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  Speaker 1: from Duke University. I know Duke very well. Actually spent
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  Speaker 1: some time in Durham and I was the assistant. I
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  Speaker 1: was a pitching coach at Duke on the Duke baseball
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  Speaker 1: team in a long time ago. Yes, so it's a
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  Speaker 1: long story. This is not about me, this is about you.
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  Speaker 1: What was the original plan with that degree in psychology
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  Speaker 1: from Duke Munivery prestigious Duke University, and when did it
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  Speaker 1: pivot into acting?
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  Speaker 3: I was always well, I got I minored in theater
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  Speaker 3: as well there, so it was kind of a pre
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  Speaker 3: med route but always and then splitting off to choosing
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  Speaker 3: acting ultimately.
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  Speaker 2: But it was a bad It was a battle between.
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  Speaker 3: Myself and my parents and expectations and trying to meet
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  Speaker 3: every like, trying to find my place. And it was
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  Speaker 3: only till I finally got to college. While I was
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  Speaker 3: away and I was actually taking theater classes acting got
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  Speaker 3: to do a summer program in London, and I was like,
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  Speaker 3: this is it, this is what I want to do, right, And.
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  Speaker 1: That was it. Tell us about London a little bit
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  Speaker 1: that that part really fascinates me. Did you go to
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  Speaker 1: the Royal Academy? Where were you?
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  Speaker 3: You know? It was affili date through Duke, so we
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  Speaker 3: stayed at other but we were really basically watching nightly theater,
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  Speaker 3: talking about it, discussing. It was just like theater camp
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  Speaker 3: doing scenes. And I actually saw Clive Owen there before
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  Speaker 3: he did the movie version. But it was a play
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  Speaker 3: first Closer and it was a small black box performance
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  Speaker 3: and it was so raw, so edgy, and it was like,
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  Speaker 3: oh my god, this is it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, isn't he great? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Phenomenal, mind blowing and I.
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  Speaker 1: Was he's the real deal. That guy is just like, so,
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  Speaker 1: when did you move to Los Angeles?
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  Speaker 3: Right after I graduated early I got out, I was like,
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  Speaker 3: I'm moving to LA right away, and I think I
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  Speaker 3: tell my parents that I got into like some I
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  Speaker 3: think it was a documentary USC summer program and I
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  Speaker 3: kind of used that to get me out there. And
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  Speaker 3: then I was just scouting, like Okay, where am I
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  Speaker 3: going to live? The girl who was in the documented
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  Speaker 3: program was like I want to stay too.
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  Speaker 2: She was from Turkey. So we're like we're going to
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  Speaker 2: just do it.
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  Speaker 3: And I didn't know anyone, and and then you know, doubt,
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  Speaker 3: self doubt kicks in and it's like you're doing everything
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  Speaker 3: but acting, you know. And I did like this theater
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  Speaker 3: behind the scenes, I'm in the raptors like pulling down
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  Speaker 3: whatever they need and I'm just sitting up there going,
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  Speaker 3: oh my gosh. And then my my roommate then her
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  Speaker 3: name was Hava, was like, what are you doing? You
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  Speaker 3: came on here to be an actor?
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  Speaker 2: What are you? You know?
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  Speaker 3: You're doing everything butt and I was like, you're right,
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  Speaker 3: You're right. So I pivoted and then did a couple
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  Speaker 3: years at LACC they had a theater Academy program, and
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  Speaker 3: then from there I did a play saw someone saw
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  Speaker 3: me in that and referred me to a manager, and
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  Speaker 3: then I was just getting.
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  Speaker 2: Out there.
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  Speaker 1: Fantastic. So what was the hardest part for you trying
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  Speaker 1: to break into Hollywood?
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  Speaker 3: I would say, you know, it's I didn't have a
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  Speaker 3: real connected community, you know, coming out here. It was
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  Speaker 3: very like I'm just trying to figure it out myself.
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  Speaker 3: And that's when my parents also were like when they
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  Speaker 3: finally were like do it. But I just don't have
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  Speaker 3: any advice for you in this world. And it's just
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  Speaker 3: kind of like I had to figure it out. I
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  Speaker 3: had to find my own people, you know. Went to
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  Speaker 3: a Meisner program where my closest friends are still from
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  Speaker 3: that two year program. And I feel like that's the
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  Speaker 3: toughest thing is when you're just starting out you have
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  Speaker 3: no concept of like how do I get through?
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  Speaker 2: How do I get through?
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  Speaker 3: Still I still feel like it's it's still challenging in
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  Speaker 3: its own right. I feel like now with time, I
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  Speaker 3: just feel a lot more confident than I did back then.
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  Speaker 1: You know, yeah, yeah, it's like knowing when it's like
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  Speaker 1: hard to know when your skill set is ready to
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  Speaker 1: walk into the room and get the job, because that's
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  Speaker 1: it's it's a skill set, right, but you can't you
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  Speaker 1: can't get it. I mean, some people can just walk
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  Speaker 1: right in their first audition and nail it because they
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  Speaker 1: don't know any better to be right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then they sort of like if they don't
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  Speaker 1: get the first couple of things, and then they go, oh, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: this is how it has to do. So then they
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  Speaker 1: get in their heads and they try to figure out
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  Speaker 1: how to be in the room and yeah, and then
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  Speaker 1: it just turns into a year's long slog. But you
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  Speaker 1: know what I always found interesting every time I was
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  Speaker 1: successful in the room, and it wasn't often in the beginning,
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  Speaker 1: Like in the very beginning, I was very sickful and
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  Speaker 1: then didn't get the I came right down the way
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  Speaker 1: I didn't get the job, and then I went in
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  Speaker 1: through a multi year process of just stinking yes. And
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  Speaker 1: then I eventually got really good at being in the
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  Speaker 1: room because I stopped caring what anybody thought, so I
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  Speaker 1: and then I you know, you have these conversations with
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  Speaker 1: other actors, and one actor in particular said, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I do is I flip the psychology in the room.
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  Speaker 1: I go in the room as the character and I
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  Speaker 1: put my finger up and I said, just give me
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  Speaker 1: a minute. And then I turned my back on the
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  Speaker 1: room and I get in character and then I turn
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  Speaker 1: around after I'll take a minute. I'll take a minute
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  Speaker 1: and a half and I'll get those people to focus
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  Speaker 1: on me, and then I'll turn around and say I'm ready,
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  Speaker 1: let's go. And then he does it leaves that's it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and he said, he said to me, he said, I
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  Speaker 1: started booking stuff pretty consistently after I did that.
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  Speaker 2: That makes sense.
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  Speaker 1: And I tried it, and I made a complete ass
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  Speaker 1: out of myself. So I never I forgot the order.
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  Speaker 3: That because he gave himself that permission to really completely escape,
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  Speaker 3: like into his imagination and boom and then just go
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  Speaker 3: and then this is it, you know, and bring it
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  Speaker 3: to life.
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  Speaker 2: And then it's like take it or leave it.
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  Speaker 1: But I did right because there's so many you know,
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  Speaker 1: you get all this advice from your manager, your agents, whoever,
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  Speaker 1: and it's like, well, go in and be yourself and
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  Speaker 1: then transform into the character or just go in and
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  Speaker 1: take over the room, you know what it is. I
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  Speaker 1: got Gilmore because I was so busy. I didn't care
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  Speaker 1: if I got it. I didn't need it, or at
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  Speaker 1: least I convinced myself that I didn't need it. I
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  Speaker 1: really did need it, but I convinced myself because I
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  Speaker 1: was so busy. I had too many auditions. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I was teaching acting at the time. I had tons
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  Speaker 1: of classes. I had to teach in tons of students,
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  Speaker 1: and I was teaching.
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  Speaker 2: I started just started teaching too.
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  Speaker 1: No, I was back time.
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  Speaker 2: He was.
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  Speaker 1: Like nineteen ninety eight I started, So you're doing it now, Yeah, I.
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  Speaker 2: Just like I start.
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  Speaker 3: I taught like a year ago at idsa Identity School
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  Speaker 3: of Acting. It's a multicultural school. I think they started
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  Speaker 3: in London with I guess John Boego Letitia right, and
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  Speaker 3: they opened up a Hollywood branch. But I was coaching first,
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  Speaker 3: and I started teaching, and I found it's thrilling.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, that's how I started the same way, coaching people
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  Speaker 1: for auditions, and then people were getting to producers and
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  Speaker 1: some people got offers. So you should teach a class,
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  Speaker 1: So I sort of organic. It all organically happened. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's that's great. It's very satisfying.
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  Speaker 2: It is.
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  Speaker 1: It's really really great to do it. You should continue
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  Speaker 1: doing it. It's wonderful.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is very it's inspiring. Like I feel like
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  Speaker 3: it's like a full circle, like the things I'm saying
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  Speaker 3: to them is like the things I'm utilizing, and it's
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  Speaker 3: just making me.
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  Speaker 2: A stronger actor too. It's amazing, it's great.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's why I got Gilmore. Oh wow, because
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  Speaker 1: because I was just so much more relaxed in auditions,
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  Speaker 1: because I was giving all this advice to people all
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  Speaker 1: the time, and maybe I just like I'm stupid or something,
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  Speaker 1: and I finally just that it had to take that
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  Speaker 1: kind of like hammering away at myself, yes, yes, to
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  Speaker 1: get it so it's finally sung. Anyway, I don't know throusmosis.
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  Speaker 1: I told myself it was speaking of audition. Do you
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  Speaker 1: remember the audition for Kirn Is that how you say
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  Speaker 1: k k k K?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 3: I remember there was one audition I went previously, but
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  Speaker 3: I didn't get it, and then this one came around,
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  Speaker 3: and I do remember.
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  Speaker 2: I remember getting my.
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  Speaker 3: Mom's help because of the Korean exchange because I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: I would say, conversational, I understand more.
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  Speaker 2: Than I can speak it. And I was like, oh man,
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  Speaker 2: it's a rapid fire. So I had to get my
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  Speaker 2: mom to help me.
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  Speaker 3: And I remember I do remember going into the room,
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  Speaker 3: and I think I was first because I was so like.
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, I gotta go first.
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  Speaker 3: I think I like to like just relax, and but
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  Speaker 3: it was just like boom, you're up, and I just
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  Speaker 3: remember it was super fun, like all I remember. It
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  Speaker 3: was just I remember the room was very welcoming. I
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  Speaker 3: do remember laughter and in not throwing me because I
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  Speaker 3: was just kind of in it and having fun. And
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  Speaker 3: then walking out and that was it.
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  Speaker 1: But who was there? Who was there?
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  Speaker 3: The room was full, like I don't even know. I
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  Speaker 3: just remember it was packed. It seemed like a very
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  Speaker 3: packed room.
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  Speaker 1: Was it a Warner brother?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? And was Amy there? Do you remember Amy being there?
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember.
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  Speaker 1: Just a lot of people.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I just that's all. It is a lot of
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  Speaker 2: people coming in here.
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  Speaker 1: Right here we go, here we go.
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  Speaker 2: I would imagine she would have been in the room.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. It seemed like a very packed house.
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  Speaker 1: A great role, great roll it.
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  Speaker 2: Was so fun.
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  Speaker 1: So you you really didn't seem to struggle at all
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  Speaker 1: with the pace. I mean you were just super speedy
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  Speaker 1: and on it, and I guess you have that ability
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  Speaker 1: that's very rare. Did did you find it to be
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  Speaker 1: easier than you thought to keep that pace up? Did
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  Speaker 1: they give you a lot of notes like hey, go
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  Speaker 1: faster because it didn't seem like they had to.
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  Speaker 2: I don't remember that.
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  Speaker 3: I think I just naturally, like I even remember like
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  Speaker 3: an acting like slow down, slow down, And I think
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  Speaker 3: that's just my natural like was just to.
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  Speaker 2: Go boom, boom, bom, boom, to rush. So I think
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  Speaker 2: it just was like perfectly matched for like Gilmore speed,
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  Speaker 2: it was like boom.
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  Speaker 3: The pacing was not a real issue for me because
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  Speaker 3: it was just natural my.
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  Speaker 1: Natural go is just because those scenes, those scenes with
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  Speaker 1: with Keko or just it just fly. I mean it's
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  Speaker 1: just like the back and forth is as good as
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  Speaker 1: it gets.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so fun.
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  Speaker 1: Were you familiar with the show, but for you audition, I.
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  Speaker 3: Was familiar, but I wasn't watching it. I think at
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  Speaker 3: that time it was I feel like there's a period
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  Speaker 3: where I really went was watching. All I was more
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  Speaker 3: normally watching was films like watching feature films, and then
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  Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I was aware of it, but I
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  Speaker 3: wasn't like a like a daily tune in and yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so I wasn't that familiar with it right right when
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  Speaker 3: I jumped in.
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  Speaker 1: This is from Emily from Tallahassee, Florida. This was your
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  Speaker 1: first TV show you book. Do you remember your first
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  Speaker 1: day on set?
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  Speaker 3: Oh?
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  Speaker 2: My first day.
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  Speaker 3: I just remember everyone was just like so lovely, so
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  Speaker 3: so nice, and I just remember everyone was just being
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  Speaker 3: like I was like, wow, it felt like the energy
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  Speaker 3: felt like family. I just felt like very welcomed and
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  Speaker 3: it was just That's why I feel like I really
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  Speaker 3: kind of looked into this being my first experience, and
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  Speaker 3: I feel like by that point, I felt like everything
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  Speaker 3: was just a well oiled machine. I felt like you
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  Speaker 3: guys were just boom boom boom. Everything was moving so
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  Speaker 3: like beautifully and like there was I didn't feel like
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  Speaker 3: much tension. You know, I've been on sets where there's
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  Speaker 3: been tension, and this felt like it was just fun.
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  Speaker 3: Just like everybody was like thrilled to be there.
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  Speaker 1: Two thousand and three, I think it.
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  Speaker 2: Was that season five. I think season four four.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, season three or four yeah, so you played that
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  Speaker 1: foreign exchange shoes and Kian who lived with missus Kim.
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  Speaker 2: Give us his kill.
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  Speaker 1: Did you like the progression of the character my character?
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  Speaker 1: Yeahs as it changed.
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  Speaker 3: I really I'm really so happy that we didn't. It
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  Speaker 3: shifted into We're gonna come together and I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: take you under my wings, and I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I hope this isn't just going.
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  Speaker 2: To be like us, like at each other's throat. And
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  Speaker 2: I really thought it was a lovely shift to come together.
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  Speaker 3: I thought that was really beautiful versus us always like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: she's trying to take over my life or take up
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  Speaker 3: my place.
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  Speaker 2: But I thought that was a really.
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  Speaker 3: Nice way of like showing out, you know, people can
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  Speaker 3: become friends under the most unusual situation.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And that was really at the time when
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  Speaker 1: when Layne was starting to show some real backbone. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, with with her mother making demands on her
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  Speaker 1: and setting the tone which was compelling to watch. Uh okay,
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  Speaker 1: this is from Richard from UH Seattle. What was your
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  Speaker 1: favorite part about being part of the Gilmore Girls cast.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, you know, I would have to say the Gilmore
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  Speaker 3: Girl fail are like the best. It's like amazing. Like
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  Speaker 3: people will run.
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  Speaker 2: Into and they're just they're hardcore. They love it, and
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  Speaker 2: it's just like.
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  Speaker 3: This this super love you know. I mean, people are
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  Speaker 3: so committed to the show, and uh, I really love
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  Speaker 3: that I'm just being part of the family. It's it's like, wow,
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  Speaker 3: it's really special, like something was specially created.
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  Speaker 1: Did you did you get recognized right away after after
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  Speaker 1: it aired?
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  Speaker 3: I feel like it was later just on and off throughout.
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  Speaker 3: Even if I'd be like putting on glasses or not
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  Speaker 3: or without glasses, people would recognize me and I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: it's really great. Or I would get uh fan mail
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  Speaker 3: and people like, uh, I guess like little images or
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  Speaker 3: created things and it was really lovely. I was like, wow,
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  Speaker 3: I love that they had such a spirit.
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  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I've never had a bad encounter with with all.
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  Speaker 1: Every encounter I have with Gilmore fans in the last
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  Speaker 1: twenty some odd years have been all pleasant. It's amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not Yeah, they're not strange. They're just lovely
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  Speaker 1: and they they're filled with excitement and emotion and they
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  Speaker 1: want to share, you know, the deeper meanings of what
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  Speaker 1: what the show did for them and their dag right
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  Speaker 1: family and it's just it's really quaint. It's something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: We were part of something one day.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, and also having like the Asian storyline. I don't
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  Speaker 3: think that was like happening at that time.
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  Speaker 2: You know, it was very.
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  Speaker 3: Ahead of its time that miss Him and this uh
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  Speaker 3: with Lane and that relationship being on TV.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: You know, it was powerful.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: You know, it's you know, I may we just we
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: just did a we just did a recap on on
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: that particular episode where you do come in the diner
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: and have that scene with Lane and she takes you
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: under her wing. Now you're now you're you know, your
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: buddy now, so she's going to help you out. But
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: I always thought that that show could have spun off,
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: you know, a Missus Kim, Lane and Kean side its
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: own show. I thought I thought the Rory Logan Huntsburger
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Yale thing could have been its own show. You know,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: really a lot of shows in one very powerful. Do
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: you have a favorite scene that you filmed This is
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: from Kyle in Albany, New York. Do you have a
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: favorite scene that you filmed, a favorite.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: Within the Gilm or like in my life or is
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: this particular to Gilmore.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: Girls, I think you better keep it Gilmore Ye.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, great.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Favorite suggestions.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: I would say I think the the the diner scene
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: was super fun with coming in and it's like the
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: flax seeds and everything that's happening, and then she's like,
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: here have this, you know, she me a plate of fries.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: See fried snicker bars.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: I remember I was like, oh god, the writing was phenomenal.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah when that, when the writing was on, it was
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: really quite special. Yeah. So what kind of opportunities sprang
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: up for you when once that showed there? Did it?
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Did you notice the difference?
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I did.
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: Honestly, I feel like I did go out for uh
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: things here and there, but it's like I feel like
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: I was still in self maybe self doubt mode of
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: like oh I got that, and it's like what what now?
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean? And then it's like the
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: second guessing yourself.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: And.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Uh, other other things happened, like uh, really great roles,
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: you know, like I did the Shield, you know, grades
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Anatomy and they're all like these more ground like the
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: drama side, you know, it was I don't think I
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: went back to comedy. It was more like, oh, yeah,
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: so interesting. I feel like the other future bookings were
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: definitely drama, so yeah, yes interesting. It was a different,
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: a different stretch.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: I found it very odd going from the show to
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: anything else, Yeah, because I still hadn't made the adjustment
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: to slow down and act right.
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: They had to tell me like why you like, can
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: you slow down? Take your time? I'm like, really, I
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: can do that. So tell us about this comedy series, uh,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Susanne Land that you created.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Oh yes, so dark comedy. So going back to some roots.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: My partner and I at that time we were doing
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: some improv and that was one of my biggest fears.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: So I was like, I'm going to jump in and
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: do it. And we started running a show and then
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: we're like, let's start writing, and so we're like starting writing,
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: and then we were like, hey, let's we were doing short.
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: Films at that time. We're like, we haven't done like
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: a little series. Let's try a series.
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: So it was our biggest like, Oh, we're gonna hire
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: people actually and try to like get this thing like
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: professionally as close to professionally made. So we did like
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: a crowd funder funding for it. Yes, yes, the first
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: one failed.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: My heart was like shat.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, it's all or all. You get
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: it all or you don't get anything. We didn't hit it,
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: and so they're like fire right away, and that's a
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: lesson which one was it is it go fund.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Me where you hit it all or you don't get it.
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: And then so I was like indie indie go go
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: is where you landed, and that's where we got the
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: funding and then we moved forward. But yeah, it was
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: just uh and it really zero expectations.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: It was just to do it, to have fun. We're
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: going to get together and create these We had ended
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: up with five. And then when we blasted it out,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: it was like a shock.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: When Sundance was like we're gonna we're gonna kind of
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: featured in the Indian eiotic category, it was like whoa,
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: it's like wow.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: So you took that all the way to the Sundance
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Film Festival.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was, and.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: They and it was it was a TV show.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: It was a web series.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: It was a web series.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was the first time where they had
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: opened it up to indie. It was indie episodic category
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: and so yeah, and so then it was like the
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: hustle of like, oh my god, we need a post.
• 22:48
  Speaker 3: And it was happening during the holidays, you know, like
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: when there's Thanksgiving.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: That's when when we figured it out.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: And I remember telling We're sitting around telling her we
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: have great news.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: We're great news in my family.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: My sisters like, oh, she's she's she's getting married, she's
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: she's pregnant.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: And I look at my partner. We're like, no, we
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: we got into sundance and they're like it was like,
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: oh gosh. Yeah. So it was a trip though. It
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: was it was like a dream come true because it
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: was on my list and it was like a I
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: just set it off without thinking.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: You know, So was it in competition? Was it some
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: kind of in competition or I don't I.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Don't think so, I think, okay, a screening. You know,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: that was the first year they're doing it.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Not bad, not bad? So what happened to So? What
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: happened to it? So it was so it was a
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: web series. How many episodes did you do it?
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: It was five? Five?
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: Five short their micro like micro shorts. And then we
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: have now written the pilot for it and our goal
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: is to see it as a TV. You know, a
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: half hour comedy, but it's that in itself. In the
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: writing was such a journey too, because you get people
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: saying you got to do this, You've got to do this,
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: and it changes then your your writing starts shifting. And
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: then it got to a place where it was like, oh,
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: this is not the show that we wanted to make,
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: you know, it was so far away.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: From what we started.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: And then we're like, got to go back, got to
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: go back to the you know, the original thing, Like
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: what are we wanting to do here? And so now
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: I feel like we're back roll circle and we actually
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: got it to a place where we're like, oh, I
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: think this is what we want to do.
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: So so the goal is to get a deal.
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: Yes, that would be the deal, to get someone attached,
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: a producer, production company, UH, sell the pilot and UH
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: hopefully make the show.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Where can I Where can I see this? I might?
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: I might jump on board here? Oh great, well, where
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: where can I see this? Can I see it? Can
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: I just see it online? Can I go?
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: You can find Suzanne land dot com and you can
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: watch that. And and then we've had We've written the pilot,
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: the half hour pilot, and it won many like quarter Stummie, Finalist,
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: Finalists one competitions, and then we did another final rewrite
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: from some.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: Of those notes.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: And we haven't officially taken it out. We haven't officially
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: pitched it anywhere.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: That's interesting.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're we're excited. I mean like, I feel
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: like now is the time?
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: All right? So you have a script? I can read
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: a script.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you totally can.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: All right. Tell when we're done here, Tell the producers
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: how I get in touch with you because I want to.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: I'll get We'll exchange emails or something. I want to
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: read this thing. I do well, I do a lot
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: of this now all producing.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Are you on that side too?
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, fantastic.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I would love to find it your sounds.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: I want to see it. I want to read it.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I'm fascinated. So so that's what you're working on right now?
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: Yes, that is uh, that's what you're doing.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: That's your jam, that's what we're doing.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: That's my dream.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: That's my dream TV serious right yeah, like as that's
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: HBO Netflix.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: I see it. It's there, I see it. Other than that,
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: I would like to continue making shorts. You know, there's a.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: Lot of other like ideas that I have that I
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: would just like to keep making things, you know, and theater.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: I've gone back to my roots of theater and God,
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: it's like it's powerful.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Like sharing the knowledge sharing. So we're gonna do a
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: little section now called rapid Fire. And it doesn't mean
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: it's going to be fast. There's no requirement that you'll
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: be fast. But I'm gonna ask you a series of questions.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: You're ready, They're all Gilmore related, So here we go.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: How do you How do you like your coffee decaf? Okay, yeah,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: you don't really you don't need caffeine? Do you?
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: No?
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: No?
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: Are you logan Team Jess or Team Dean.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Jess?
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: What is your favorite Gilmour girls couple? Luke and Laurel,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: Lane and Zach, Emily and Richard, Suki and Jackson.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: H Well, I see, I feel like you.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: You guys are the obvious choice because you guys are
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: the heart of the show. So I'm gonna go that,
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: given I would say Lane, I'm gonna go with them.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Gotcha? What would you order at Luke Steiner.
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Devil stotchy fingers.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Fingers Jackson or Taylor for town selectmen? Jackson, everybody says Jackson,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: and he just he just doesn't He doesn't want the job.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: But that's why, you know how when you don't want it,
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: you get it. I think that reinforces that lesson.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but he sucks at it, he's not going to
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: be good at it. Tail Tailor Taylor's a pain in
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: the ass, but he's actually good at it. I don't
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: mean to influence your decision anyway, shape or form. What
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: would you rather listen to? Hep Alien or the Troubadour's
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: cover songs?
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: I'm biased, so hep Alien? Okay, they come on, Brie
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: was in it?
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: Come on Harvard or Yale?
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Yale?
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: Because I feel like a lot of this is a
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: different one. But it's because, uh, I feel like a
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: lot of great actors come out of the Yale.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: Well they got the they got the theater program.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the strong theater.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, they got it. They got that. They're going on. Man,
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: I'm not saying Harvard doesn't, but I think Yale has
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: the you know, Bobby Bobby Lewis designed their program, the
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: great Robert Lewis. What's Rory's bigger mistake? Crashing the car
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: her boyfriend built for her or sleeping with her ex
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: who is married. Bigger mistake. There you go. Who from Gilmour?
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Would you not want to be stuck on a desert
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: island with.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Missus?
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Can you know what that's? That really is the obvious choice,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: and you the first one to mention her. Are you
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: serious to me?
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: It's a no brainer. Oh yeah, no life like straighted
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: with her? Oh my god.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Can you imagine something in your life that you are
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: all in on?
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Storytelling? Story telling amazing stories.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: It has been a pleasure. Yeah, it's so good to
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: see you. I never I never met you. I don't
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: think we ever know.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: You were had a little bit and then it was boom,
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: So we never had any scenes together.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: It was just diner.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: There was a little uh bit that you had with
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: Laura and okay, you're in that scene at the top.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Of it, and then we moved.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Was I nice? Was I nice?
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: You were very nice?
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: All right? Sometimes sometimes I was tired and anyway, Susan,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time. This was a
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: lot of fun. Love to have you back. There's so
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: much more to talk about. And please make sure leave
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: your contact information with producers and I'll get in touch
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: with you. Okay, thank you so much and good luck
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: with everything.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing your show and reading your script.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: Love it, love it. Thank you again, appreciate it.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: Are you too?
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Bye?
• 31:05
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