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Hour Two | Coaching Carousel Fallout & Questionable Front Office Decisions · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 1: Off the Bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, here we go where the.
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  Speaker 1: Plays get broken down and science gets denied.
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  Speaker 3: Off the Bench.
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  Speaker 1: Hour two of Off the Bench Live from the Raising
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  Speaker 1: Kine Studio.
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  Speaker 3: All Right, welcome back our numb buck to Off the Bench.
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  Speaker 3: Hundred's past eight a m. Now, so you can say
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  Speaker 3: as weapons.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, they're gonna open up a Canada West.
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  Speaker 3: That's not even I guess it should be whit.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, which is that? If that's an improvement?
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  Speaker 3: Alright, but again I applaud your effort to keep it
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  Speaker 3: clean for the cheerings for the young out there.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not around children much, so it's like, I don't
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  Speaker 4: ever have to censor myself.
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  Speaker 2: What would parents prefer just hearing that or kids being like,
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  Speaker 2: is but whipp an actual thing?
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  Speaker 3: I think we should trademark it?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah for else take my idea, we're.
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  Speaker 2: Not going to make anything actually good. What are we
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  Speaker 2: going to put in the bottle to just like.
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  Speaker 3: It's all market? Uh, you aren't around the youth, salot,
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  Speaker 3: but you did show me a real funny picture. Y.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. So my cousin Bo, he's five years old, he's
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  Speaker 4: gonna be six this year, which is so jarring because
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  Speaker 4: I was basically like my aunt's and nanny at the time,
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  Speaker 4: so I like when he was like a newborn baby,
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  Speaker 4: I was like taking care of him. But it is
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  Speaker 4: the hundredth day at school, so they all dressed up
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  Speaker 4: as old people, and he's like this little old man
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  Speaker 4: and it's so adorable. I'm gonna see if Taylor. I'm
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  Speaker 4: just in a picture of it to Taylor, see if
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  Speaker 4: he could pull it up. But it is the cutest
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  Speaker 4: thing ever. And then she said that she went to
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  Speaker 4: go drop him off and there's just a bunch a
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  Speaker 4: little old like a bunch of kids, dresses a little yeah. Environment,
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  Speaker 4: So I guess they do that now. I was telling you, Taylor.
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  Speaker 4: Taylor said, they used to do glasses. We used to
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  Speaker 4: just do a little T shirt.
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  Speaker 3: He's like the hundred The picture he shed me is
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  Speaker 3: full blood.
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  Speaker 2: We used to make one hundred day glasses like the
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  Speaker 2: zeros were the.
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  Speaker 4: Eyes newspaper boy cat. He has little wrinkles on his head,
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  Speaker 4: and I guess they painted his hair gray.
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  Speaker 3: I can only hope that the entire class went all out.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, she said, there there's a bunch of little old
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  Speaker 4: people there.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, that's fantastic. I need to see that. I think
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  Speaker 3: our school it's like one hundred day, Like they wear
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  Speaker 3: a hundred you know, fethers or whatever, drink kets where
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  Speaker 3: they can put on their shirts or hats whatever. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if today's a hundred day, though I've already
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  Speaker 3: been there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's pretty cute, though.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like it takes a long time to get
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  Speaker 3: to one hundred days of school because I feel like
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  Speaker 3: they get a lot off days.
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  Speaker 4: They do get a lot of off days.
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  Speaker 3: It was a back in my day type of soapbox.
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  Speaker 3: Here may that's a lot off days.
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  Speaker 4: Back in my day, we didn't get the full week
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  Speaker 4: of Thanksgiving off. We just got like Wednesday and Thursday
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  Speaker 4: and Friday or something, maybe even just Thursday and Friday.
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  Speaker 3: It's fall break, which is a full week.
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  Speaker 4: It's Thanksgiving, Yeah, Christmas, Christmas, which is like the whole month.
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  Speaker 4: Marti Gras, Yeah, we don't get spring over there. They
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  Speaker 4: don't get Marty gral Easter.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, what are we doing?
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  Speaker 4: Why didn't they ever make spring break the same time
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  Speaker 4: we solve?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Is it not? I can't remember. For in college, I
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  Speaker 3: know it was definitely not in college.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think it was duram or at least not
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  Speaker 4: for me. I don't know, mm hmm, but yeah, little
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  Speaker 4: children dressed up as old people as hilarious.
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  Speaker 3: Well was it? It was just Thanksgiving? Was just like
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  Speaker 3: you're off Thursday and Friday, right, yeah? Or maybe maybe
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  Speaker 3: a Wednesday?
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  Speaker 4: Maybe, think maybe we had Wednesday off the kids these days, kids.
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  Speaker 3: These days, they don't get it.
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  Speaker 4: Good for them, they don't ever go to school.
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  Speaker 3: All right, super Bowl week?
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  Speaker 4: Who's doing the next?
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  Speaker 3: Oh? Good question?
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  Speaker 2: I know this, Arlie, Charlie, Charlie Booth. It worked.
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  Speaker 3: Like picture this, I know this and then eyes closed,
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  Speaker 3: finger to the scalp. How quickly did I get it?
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  Speaker 2: After that?
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  Speaker 4: Charlie?
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  Speaker 2: You know, and you've heard some of his pu h.
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  Speaker 3: That sounds like a day Okay, yeah, yeah, that's in
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  Speaker 3: furious song. You nailed it.
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  Speaker 4: If radio doesn't work out for me, all.
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  Speaker 3: Right, I need to look up I'd like to look
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  Speaker 3: up the I always like the always I enjoy that one. So,
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  Speaker 3: like I said, this is you know, I think the
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  Speaker 3: time of the year, we're not a ton of actual
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  Speaker 3: sports to break down is happening. We're going to go
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  Speaker 3: through a lot of the different problem best, but we
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  Speaker 3: do have some NFL news, and it got me thinking,
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  Speaker 3: there's there's I think we have wrapped up the coaching
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  Speaker 3: and we'll get to that. But I was I was
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  Speaker 3: looking at the coach, I was looking at the GM movements,
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  Speaker 3: and it got the thinkment thinking this weekend and this
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  Speaker 3: is a I kind of want this to be a
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  Speaker 3: little roundtable discussion here, But who screwed up worse? Who
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  Speaker 3: made the dumber move? And it's all pertains to the
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  Speaker 3: super Bowl, the Seahawks versus the Patriots. Who made the
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  Speaker 3: dumber move? The Minnesota Vikings or the Tennessee Titans. Tennessee Titans.
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  Speaker 3: I think, so wow, that was fast.
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  Speaker 2: I think I appreciate what Kevin O'Connell can do with quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 2: and I get the JJ W wasn't great. You got
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  Speaker 2: to understand this was technically JJ's rookie year. This was
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  Speaker 2: his first year in the league. Like I'll give him
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  Speaker 2: another year before like you know, we're completely out on him.
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  Speaker 2: But he took you to the one seed as the Titans.
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  Speaker 2: When the hell have you ever been the one seed?
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  Speaker 2: Ryan Tannehill was your quarterback, You were the one seed.
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  Speaker 2: Guess what, Tannehill when his contract was up in Tennessee.
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  Speaker 2: Nobody in the league wanted him. He hadn't played since
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  Speaker 2: and you were the one seed and were a game
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  Speaker 2: away from making it to the super Bowl, and you
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  Speaker 2: fired the guy. Now, guess what, You're gonna have top
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  Speaker 2: five picks for the next four years.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't realize that Raybo was there for six four seasons.
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  Speaker 3: I knew he was there for a while, but if
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  Speaker 3: you would have like gone to my head, I would
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  Speaker 3: have said probably three or four years. But he did.
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  Speaker 3: He get hired in twenty eighteen, went fifty four and
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  Speaker 3: forty five with the Titans, which is respectable record with
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  Speaker 3: the Titans, certainly over sixties, and then two and three
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  Speaker 3: playoff record, Like you said, number one seed Tannehill quarterback,
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  Speaker 3: and then they fire him out of nowhere. And I
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  Speaker 3: think they fire a guy who was pretty much well
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  Speaker 3: respected as a really good coach. So you fire somebody
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  Speaker 3: that's approven good coach, Well, what does he do? Well,
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  Speaker 3: he takes like a year off, he goes and like
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  Speaker 3: you saw him working like the bags and the hitting
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  Speaker 3: drills with the Browns last year. Then he takes a
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  Speaker 3: job with the Patriots and all he does is go
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  Speaker 3: nine to zero on the road, makes it to the
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  Speaker 3: Super Bowl with a second year quarterback as a first
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  Speaker 3: first year head coach, ties the record for the amount
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  Speaker 3: of wins for a first year head coach in the
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  Speaker 3: NFL history. So pretty decent, pretty good, So Titans, egg
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  Speaker 3: on your face. But also on the other hand, counter
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  Speaker 3: argument to what Taylor just said, Minnesota Vikings, you get
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  Speaker 3: rid of Sam Darnold after a year where he had
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  Speaker 3: an incredible year. You have a really good offensive mine
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  Speaker 3: head coach Kevin O'Connell, and you get rid of your
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  Speaker 3: starting quarterback because you believe that this quarterback out of
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  Speaker 3: Michigan is your replacement. And it doesn't matter what anybody does,
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  Speaker 3: doesn't matter who's available. You are going to trust that
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  Speaker 3: draft pick and you're going to give him every opportunity. Well,
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  Speaker 3: guess what happened. Person who made that decision is no
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  Speaker 3: longer employed. There, Vikings fire general manager. I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: try to say this name. I'm gonna try to say
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  Speaker 3: it right, quesci adofo Mensa. How do you think I did?
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  Speaker 2: You nailed it? Actually?
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  Speaker 3: Or Queasi I heard I heard questiadofo Mensa fired. This
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  Speaker 3: was like a Wall Street guy who got into football late.
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  Speaker 3: He wasn't like a football dude got into it. I
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  Speaker 3: think back in twenty thirteen with the Niners, kind of
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  Speaker 3: a different way of thinking, a different molded or a
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  Speaker 3: different mindset when it comes to his moves and how
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  Speaker 3: he's you know, created a roster and procured a roster
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  Speaker 3: and drafted well. He hadn't drafted well, and he's made
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  Speaker 3: some terrible decisions. I think four of his twenty eight
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  Speaker 3: players that he drafted as GM ended up being or
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  Speaker 3: I think where the starters at the end of the year.
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  Speaker 3: This year drafts classes so bad it makes the Saints
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  Speaker 3: look good. And don't laugh at that, it's not funny.
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  Speaker 3: So he decides to go with JJ McCarthy and reports
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  Speaker 3: are saying, now, of course that Kevin O'Connell and every
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  Speaker 3: the coaching staff did not want to get rid of
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  Speaker 3: Sam Donald. Well, what does Sam Donald do? He goes
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  Speaker 3: to the Seahawks leads them to the Super Bowl. So
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  Speaker 3: these two castaways from these two organizations, Sam Donald Mike
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  Speaker 3: Vrabel have led their teams in the first year there
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  Speaker 3: to a Super Bowl. What else did this GM do? Well?
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  Speaker 3: He also got rid of Daniel Jones, who Okay, that's
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  Speaker 3: that one's excusable because he wasn't your starter in Minnesota.
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  Speaker 3: But he did go somewhere else and get off the
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  Speaker 3: first half of the season, got off to an MVP
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  Speaker 3: type of start, got some injuries. We know what happened there.
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  Speaker 3: But he did look like a capable quarterback, which your
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  Speaker 3: quarterback did not look like a capable quarterback at any
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  Speaker 3: point during the season, maybe the first week. He had
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  Speaker 3: that one drive at the end of the game. I
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  Speaker 3: can't was it the Bears, he'd be at the line.
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  Speaker 2: It was the fourth quarter. Remember he came back in
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  Speaker 2: the game.
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  Speaker 3: Terrible the whole game, and then he has one drive
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  Speaker 3: where he completes a couple of passes. Then all of
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  Speaker 3: a sudden, his alter ego nine, he's nine after that
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  Speaker 3: comes out. Then he gets hurt, and then he's terrible.
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  Speaker 3: So I mean, okay, look, we're not closing the door
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  Speaker 3: on JJ McCarthy. But the move that was made. You
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  Speaker 3: had a guy last year planned towards an MVP caliber level.
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  Speaker 3: Your team was really really good, and you got rid
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  Speaker 3: of them, and at a time where the Vikings are
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  Speaker 3: in kind of a strike now position, they had a
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  Speaker 3: good roster. They had a good team. You're in the
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  Speaker 3: NFC North, who is stacked with loaded with loaded with
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  Speaker 3: teams and to make that decision. And oh yeah, one
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  Speaker 3: other thing, they got rid of Sam Darnold, they got
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  Speaker 3: rid of Daniel Jones. And guess who reports say wanted
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  Speaker 3: to go there, Aaron Rodgers And they said no to that.
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  Speaker 3: So not only did they get rid of the people
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  Speaker 3: in the building, they shut the door from anybody else
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  Speaker 3: coming in to play that position because they believed so much.
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  Speaker 3: Or this one person, quesi Adofo Mensa nailed it again,
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  Speaker 3: credit to myself because he believed so. I think it
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  Speaker 3: is a such an inner questions. You answered it way
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  Speaker 3: faster than I thought you would have. Of who made
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  Speaker 3: the bigger mistake the Viking. The Vikings might be leading
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  Speaker 3: the discussion for me because quarterback is the biggest domino
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  Speaker 3: to fall on any team. I think it's harder to
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  Speaker 3: find a good quarterback than it is to find a
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  Speaker 3: good coach, and a good quarterback can make a good
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  Speaker 3: coach look way better. If you have a quarterback, you
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  Speaker 3: don't get rid of it for an unknown, especially even
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  Speaker 3: if you have a first round pick invested in that unknown.
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  Speaker 3: And at the position at the time where they did it.
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  Speaker 3: Where the Vikings have a good roster. They have a
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  Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson who's at the top of his game in
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  Speaker 3: the NFL, the top of his position, and you're going
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  Speaker 3: to get rid of that, So, you know what, One
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  Speaker 3: man's trash, another man's treasure. The Seahawks find their quarterback
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  Speaker 3: played at an MVP level for most of the season
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  Speaker 3: and has led them to a super Bowl. The Paid
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  Speaker 3: find their coach. They get rid of Jared Mayo after
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  Speaker 3: one season. Who does that? Well, why'd they get rid
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  Speaker 3: of him after one season? Because Mike Vrabel was available.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think they get rid of a coach after
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  Speaker 3: one year if they don't know what they're getting, They're
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  Speaker 3: not like, holy hell, the Titans fired this guy. He's available,
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  Speaker 3: So Jared Mayo, you better have like an incredible year
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  Speaker 3: or we're going to hire this guy. It doesn't matter
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  Speaker 3: who was coaching the page. It's not a not an
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  Speaker 3: indictment on Jared Mayo. It's because Mike Rabel is such
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  Speaker 3: a good head coach and a leader of men, and
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  Speaker 3: obviously the Titans didn't see it. So both boneheaded mistakes
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  Speaker 3: by the Vikings boneheaded mistake by the Titans, and now
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  Speaker 3: the Titans of course those two gms, and oh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: the GM who ended up firing. Let's see, what's his name,
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  Speaker 3: ron Or Ran Carthon was a GM for the Titans
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  Speaker 3: first year in fires Mike Rabel. Guess what, he's not
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  Speaker 3: the GM any more. So you make dumb moves in
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  Speaker 3: the NFL, and dumb moves that make you look bad
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  Speaker 3: fast like these two have, you end up losing your
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  Speaker 3: job over it. And so I gotta only speculate that
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  Speaker 3: that was the main reason that the GM for the
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  Speaker 3: Vikings got fired was because he got rid of their
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  Speaker 3: quarterback and their quarterback stinks. So anybody else say it
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  Speaker 3: any different? No, because, like.
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  Speaker 2: You talked about it, it's not just getting rid of
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  Speaker 2: Sam Donald. It's the fact that if you get rid
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  Speaker 2: of Donald, you're trading McCarthy. Right. There was a report
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  Speaker 2: last night that came out that it was the Raiders
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  Speaker 2: that were looking to trade for JJ McCarthy. If you
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  Speaker 2: trade for a starting quarterback a minimum, you're giving up
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  Speaker 2: a first round pick. Could the Vikings potentially have, if
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  Speaker 2: not the first overall pick, at least the top three
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  Speaker 2: or four overall pick this year? That would have been
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  Speaker 2: in the cards for the Vikings, and like it's like,
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  Speaker 2: I think it's a bigger screw up, but also I
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  Speaker 2: almost understand it more than the Titans. Like maybe the
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  Speaker 2: GM wanted to come in and check things up, but
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  Speaker 2: at least if you're mensa, you're like, I trust Kevin
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  Speaker 2: O'Connell regardless of who the quarterback is. Now it's dangerous
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  Speaker 2: and a backfire. But no to Rogers. You didn't trade McCarthy,
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  Speaker 2: you didn't bring back Sam Donald. All those things together
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  Speaker 2: is just a massive screw up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you could survive, like saying no to Rogers because
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  Speaker 3: he did wasn't great in the Jets. He's an aging quarterback.
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  Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. Look we got this young kid, we
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  Speaker 3: got the quarterback whisper Like that's that's explainable. Maybe getting
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  Speaker 3: rid of one person like whatever it is. But getting
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  Speaker 3: rid of a starting quarterback that played at the level
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  Speaker 3: that you did with a team that is not rebuilding.
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  Speaker 3: You were not starting from the ground up with the
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  Speaker 3: Vikings last year, that is inexcusable. And then just to
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  Speaker 3: highlight that, he goes that quarterback you get rid of
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  Speaker 3: goes and makes a Super Bowl looks pretty terrible. And
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  Speaker 3: you know what that's there's there's consequences to everything, whether
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  Speaker 3: it's good or bad. And if you know, you fire
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  Speaker 3: the guy that goes to the super Bowl the next year,
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  Speaker 3: you end up losing your job. That's kind of the
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  Speaker 3: way it works. So long'd there any thoughts on this
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  Speaker 3: want which one screwed up worse?
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  Speaker 4: I think that the bigger screw up. I agree that
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  Speaker 4: the mensa, like all of it added up, probably is
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  Speaker 4: like one huge one. But firing my rabel, I think
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  Speaker 4: is the bigger one because I think that you can
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  Speaker 4: get away with having a good coach and not a
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  Speaker 4: great quarterback, like with some scheme and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 4: But I don't I don't know, Like I feel like
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  Speaker 4: the Sam Donald thing, did anybody really see that coming?
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  Speaker 4: Like did anybody really see Sam Donald going to the
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  Speaker 4: super Bowl and like he had did did you did
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  Speaker 4: you see that coming?
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  Speaker 2: No? Because like the Vikings, Yeah, well to her point,
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  Speaker 2: like I respect Kevin O'Connell so much, and I Donald
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  Speaker 2: was great at how much of that was Kevin O'Connell
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  Speaker 2: at that point that he was the outlier?
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  Speaker 4: Ye, Selock's got a bunch of weapons too, that are
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  Speaker 4: like like Jackson Smith and Jigba.
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  Speaker 2: Like, I don't know, but a great team.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. He's got a lot of
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  Speaker 4: weapons around him, So I still don't know. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: Sam Darnold's obviously really good quarterback. But I think that
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  Speaker 4: the bigger screw up is letting go of Mike Rabel
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  Speaker 4: because now the Titans like, what position are you in?
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  Speaker 3: You know, not a great one? You hire Robert saw Up. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it feels like a makeup higher, like a makeup higher
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  Speaker 3: a day ball.
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  Speaker 2: We had, a defensive coach, had success. Let's trying to
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  Speaker 2: bring back.
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  Speaker 4: You can give him, you can give I feel like
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  Speaker 4: you can give Robert Sali a mulligan for the Jets.
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  Speaker 3: I think that you get anybody.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure. So like I I'm not going to
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  Speaker 4: say that's a bad higher yet, is it a better
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  Speaker 4: higher than Mike Rabel? No?
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  Speaker 3: No Vikings defense cord Brian Flores, who has got interviews.
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  Speaker 3: He's been a really good coach for really long time,
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  Speaker 3: has a great name, great reputation, really good coach. He
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  Speaker 3: has is getting interviews for head coaches. Well, he signs
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  Speaker 3: back with the Vikings. Yeah, for reported six million a
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: year defensive coordinators, so like this six million number is
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: getting thrown like coordinator in the NFL. Good job. But
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: he made a statement the of the day and he
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: thanked everybody. He loves the will family, the owners, he
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: loves this head coach. He mentioned a lot of people
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: and never mentioned the GM. So this had like this
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: little stinky vibe to it where this GM was not.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: It doesn't feel like, at least from an outsider perspective,
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: that he was very well liked within that building. So
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: the timing is weird, like you're gonna wait until, like
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: I think this mensa guy was at the Senior Bowl,
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: he was at doing all the scouting, and you wait
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: till like now to fire him when a lot of
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: like these probably really good prospects for young and young
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: enup and coming GM's. Probably a lot of guys have
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: re signed or taken jobs elsewhere, So the timing is weird.
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: It just probably felt like there was a lot of
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: internal pressure like hey, we got to get rid of this. Yeah,
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: this guy sucks, so he's out of there. But six
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: million coordinator NFL, it's a good time to be a
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: coach right now? Yeah, all right, A lot well It
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: doesn't really matter who the dumbest one is in this
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: whole situation, the Vikings or the Titans. They both made
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: a pretty big mistake and moral of the story. In
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: the NFL, it's a results oriented world, so if you
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: don't get the results, you get fired. Both those gms
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: who made those dumb decisions are no longer employed with
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: those organizations. So that's what happened. Sorry about it. We'll
• 19:35
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  Speaker 3: it is super Bowl week, the Big Game, the Big
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  Speaker 3: Game almost like a Super Game. Someone I know who
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  Speaker 2: I think it's if you're like, like, okay, if Guarantee
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  Speaker 2: is carrying the super Bowl on the radio, you have
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  Speaker 2: to say the Big Game, like I think if I think,
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  Speaker 2: If you're just casually chatting amongst your buds, I don't think.
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  Speaker 3: I think I think that's the I watched the Big Game.
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  Speaker 3: Listen to the Big Game, not the Super Bowl. Big Game.
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: A lot of new coaches in the NFL, Taylor, you
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: got the list? Can we run down? Because I think
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: we've talked about these coaches, these new coaching changes, a
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: lot of the different ones. But I think we are
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: putting a putting a cap on it. I think we have.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: I don't think there's any vacacies left, is there? No,
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: that's a Raiders and Cardinals were the last ones. John
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: Harball to the Giants and then, as we just mentioned,
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Clint Kubiak to the Raiders. Micha Lafloor to the Cardinals,
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: not Matt Lafleur. There's a little confusion on your confusion.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: I was like the floor, where do you leave.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: The fancy to the falcon.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: The Packers to go to the Cardinals.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: H my god, that's a that's a tough job just
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: because of the division.
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: You're the division like for the Cardinals that that was
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: not a sexy job to take it all.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: And you have a little boo boo at quarterback.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: Clint Kuby exercode man. I thought it was a little
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: weird that he took the Raiders job over the Cardinals.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: I probably would have taken the Cardinals' job before the Raiders.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: It's just me would have taken the Cardinals over the Raiders. Yeah,
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: I would have taken the Cardinals job over the Raiders.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: The Kyler's not your long term answer. Can you be
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: your bridge guy for a year? Figure things out? Like
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: you're getting Mendoza, but okay, great, who's blocking for him?
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: Your line's awful. You got brock Bowers. You have nothing
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: on defense, at least with the Cardinals. Like Michael Wilson
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: was in a thousand yard receiver. Marvin Errison Junior is good.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: You got a top five tight end and Trady McBride.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: There's pieces there. You just don't have your quarterback. Figure
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: out their defense was good? Just the Raiders like they
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: have nothing. Yeah you have brock Bowers.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah. But from an offensive minded perspective, Vegas. Yeah, if
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: you're if you're a coordinator, offensive coordinator, and you're going
• 24:34
  Speaker 3: to take a head coaching job, your first shot at it,
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Like you give me quarterback, Yeah, if you want, you want,
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: you want to start fresh with a top quarterback, Like
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: you tell me, whatever the road is, you tell me, Okay,
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: you don't have this, you don't have that, you don't
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: have all of these things. But what you do get
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: as you get Fernana Mendoza with the number one overall
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: pick as his first year, and you can install your
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: offense and we're gonna give you four or five years
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: as the head coach. See what you got. I take
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: that and I say I can we can figure out
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: a way as long as you're right, GMS in place.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: We've got Tom Brady makes some decisions. Good. We have
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: to be able to figure out the rest. But if
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: I can, if I can knock out the biggest domina,
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: like the Arizona thing. I'd rather be in the Raiders
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Division than Arizona's division right now, just from the way
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: that well, yeah, because like none of them are great.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: Miss most of the season this year, right because I
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: mean what he got hurt second to last game of
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: the year, He's gonna he's gonna miss at least the
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: large chunk of the season.
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: So the Broncos are good, but I don't think they're
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: They're like a fearful good. Like I'm not scared of
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: them type good. Now Seahawks I'm a little wary of.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: And then what are what are the Chargers with all
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: their injuries? Like how of how does that work? Charge
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: is gonna Charger at some point? Right? Okay, Well those
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: are the those are the two. Over the weekend. Obviously
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: we mentioned John Harball with the Giants, Kevin Stefanski to
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: the Falcons, Robert Solos we mentioned earlier to the Titans.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: The Ravens hired Jesse Mentor, who is the defensive coordinator
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: with the Chargers. Joe Brady gets promoted to head coach
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: at the Bills. Todd Monkin finally gets a shot. He's
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: going to the Browns. Jeff Halfley to the Dolphins and
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy to the Pittsburgh Steelers.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: All right, let's talk winners and losers in the off season.
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: Give me your biggest loser first on each ofvl's biggest loser,
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: and then we'll come around talk about winners.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: On that.
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: I think the Ravens. I don't know too much about
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: Jesse Minter, but to get rid of John Harball, like,
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: I don't know, it's what we always talk about, like
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: is the grass greener on the other side, I don't know.
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: And then the Steelers kind of feels like you made
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: a lateral move a little bit with getting firing Mike
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: Tomlin and hiring Mike McCarthy.
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: He's the offensive version.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it feels like a very lateral So for me,
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: I think the Ravens just because you got rid of
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: John Harbaugh, who is keeping you in conversations for somebody
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: who is a coordinator, which everybody needs a shot at
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: some point, right, somebody has to start somewhere. But I
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: guess we'll just have to see how that works out.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: My biggest loser is gonna be the Dolphins hiring Jeff Haffley.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: Not that Jeff Haffley's not a good coach. It's just
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: all the talk was, how come Mike McDaniel can fix
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: this offense? You got to bring in somebody that can,
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: and you hire a defensive coach like I'm good with
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: going offense to defense. Also try something different if you're
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: the Dolphins, because you're never good. Eight straight coaching cycles.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: They have hired a first time head coach. That's going
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: all the way back to Nick Saban by the way,
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: a first time NFL head coach. They continue to do
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: the same thing over and over. Not the sexiest higher
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Your defense will be a lot better, but find me
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: a path to getting all those weapons of the ball
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: that you couldn't do the past few years. I don't
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: like that hire at all. That's my biggest lee.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: Dolphins trying to become like Packers south right a little bit.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: They take their new GM and he of course from
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: from Green Bay, and then longtime guy with the graa
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: Ay scout executive up in Green Bay, and then he
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: of course does something comfortable and familiar. So it's hard
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: to hire like a first time guy and say this
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: is a winner or a loser.
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, Pittsburgh, I don't think it wasn't great last
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: year either.
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, yeah, I guess I don't know if
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: the Ravens are gonna end up being the loser out
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: of this field.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they take jesse mentor defensive guy that kind of
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: fits with the Ravens personality. The Steelers they do take,
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't I don't disagree with that comment that it's
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: a lateral move, but I think maybe they wanted to
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: make a lot like if you make a lateral move
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: from Mike Tomlin, that's you got a pretty good head coach, right,
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: And Mike Tomlin is the one that broke up in
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: that did the breakup in that situation. I think the
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: Steelers organization was a little bit maybe they knew it
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: was gonna happen. Maybe that was gonna be a like
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: they make an announcement together. But I think Tomlin doing
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: it so fast, I think it might have taken them
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: caught them all a little bit off guard. But I
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: think if you can find a lateral move to Mike Tomlin,
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: pretty good, right. And we've talked about Mike McCarthy's resume
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: on this record, it's very similar to you know, when
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: this is a handful of years ago when him and
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: Sean Payton were both available at the time, and Sean
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: Payton was like this guy that everybody was talking so
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: great about, and everybody was kind of like laughing at
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy, and I was like, well, so like the
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: same guy. Yeah, they're both really good head coaches. They
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: both have a Super Bowl victory, they both have they
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: both have MVP caliber quarterbacks. I know Drew never actually
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: won one, whether you know he should have or not
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: or whatever, but we know who Drew Brees is. They're
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: like the same coach. And so Mike McCarthy, Pittsburgh guy
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: you saw in this press conference. So I think that
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: I think that hire is actually a win. The biggest you.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: Have neutral on that one.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's like a lot of these are wait
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: and see, especially with the new with the new hires,
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: but the Cardinals with Mike Lafore, like just the Cardinals
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: when you're like the last person to hire, Yeah, you
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: know that it's.
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: Just hire to Yeah, Like they were like, actually, we're
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: gonna also get rid.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Of well I mean I guess, I guess the Steelers
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: because the admitted to the playoffs and all that. But yeah,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: I mean as far as like the bad teams yeah,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: I wanted one more year of Jonathan Gannon so that
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: we can get a hard knocks. Yep, A little upset
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: about that, but.
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: I need you to pull some of those clips, Like
• 30:36
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• 30:39
  Speaker 3: secondhand awkwardness that you get just watching them watching him,
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• 30:47
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• 30:48
  Speaker 4: Wait, so that's your loser.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: That's my loser. It's just and I don't know, like Mike,
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: he could be amazing, he could be great. We don't
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: know he's coming. Where's he coming from? The Chargers.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Well, he's coming from the under And I get it.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: It's the McVeigh coaching tree. But yeah, I mean before
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: this season, did anybody know that Michae Lafore was even
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: on the Rams coaching stuff? I didn't hand up. I mean,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: that's just to me, that was just kind of an
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: out of left field name.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, yeah, a hiring cycle like in
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: the NFL, when you're the last person to hire, you know,
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: it's just always going to rereak of desperation. Yeah, you're
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: you're reaching trying, so you you probably struck out in
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: all the names you wanted, all the names that you
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: had a good feeling that we're going to work out
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: and be a good head coach for a long good
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: long term head coach to bring in a new era
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: of Cardinal football and find a new find the franchise
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: quarterback and all this good stuff. But then when you don't,
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: when that doesn't happen, I think at that point you
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: tried to go find a diamond in the rough. You
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: go try to find the next great thing and try
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: to find an innovator, try to find someone. Can somebody
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: can this guy come and be the next Sean McVay,
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Can he do it? Well? Everything else? So we struck
• 32:00
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• 32:02
  Speaker 3: there's it's not gonna hurt anything to give it a try.
• 32:05
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• 32:07
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• 32:09
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• 32:12
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  Speaker 3: will tell. But Cardinals are my loser there. All right,
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  Speaker 3: week we were at the Senior Bowl. Of course we've
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  Speaker 3: about the eies. Huh, Jenny's Dunker never meet your heroes. Everybody.
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to talk to this guy.
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  Speaker 4: For the week, the whole week.
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to talk to Jennings Dunker, beautiful Red Mullet,
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  Speaker 3: an absolute unit dominating out there in practice. Do you
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  Speaker 3: with them. It wasn't really like it was like a
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  Speaker 3: media day interview. It's one of these situations where it's
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  Speaker 3: real awkward that these people are staying around, they don't
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  Speaker 3: really want to be there, and go, hey, man, can
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  Speaker 3: I get a couple questions with you? And they're like, okay, fine,
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  Speaker 3: well we give it up. I was asking everybody like
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  Speaker 3: four different questions. He was a big disappointment. He was
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  Speaker 3: a big.
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  Speaker 4: Like literally has zero opinions.
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  Speaker 3: She sent me.
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  Speaker 2: She sent me the video because obviously that wasn't getting posted.
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  Speaker 2: Let'n't make no snopa. You've never been anywhere, you'd never
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  Speaker 2: done anything. He didn't have any interest, he didn't have
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  Speaker 2: any opinions. Just think of everything.
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  Speaker 3: That's one thing he can changed about college college sports.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think I'll change anything about college sports. All right, Cool,
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: what's your favorite football movie? I've never seen any football movies.
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  Speaker 3: Red Red Flag, for sure. So I didn't even follow
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: up with the Varsity Blues question, what's your go to
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: order to talk about I don't think I've ever had
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: talk about how well you're gonna be a draft bust?
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: For sure?
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  Speaker 4: Sorry, just based off these four questions alone, you're not.
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  Speaker 3: Making Before that, I was ready to take him at
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: one overall.
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  Speaker 2: Before the interview, he'd be like, thanks to Jenning's I'm
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: sure you'll crush the draft interviews.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks to absolutely electric stuff you.
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  Speaker 4: Chris Marler sends us this, uh interview. I didn't even
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: watch it because it was gonna make me mad. It
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: was like, oh, this this interview was electric.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like some amazing stuff here, right, takes it back?
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: That stuff was not amazing, I guess so he he did.
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  Speaker 4: You're right though. I did ask him if he could
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  Speaker 4: do the questions with us, and he was like, I
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  Speaker 4: just need to go eat first.
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  Speaker 3: I got a car blow. Yeah, what wasn't talk about?
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: No anyway, of course, we're having a little fun with this.
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  Speaker 3: I hope he has a fantastic career. I was just
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: expecting so much because of this got fire red hair.
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  Speaker 3: He was he was an absolute you know, he was
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: wearing like the shortest like butterfly shorts of practice too.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: It's like you got it, fly it like tree trunks.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: I wish him well, but it was a born interview
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: and he didn't have have. We just asked them the
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: wrong questions obviously. I mean, what football player would ever
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: watch a football movie? So there was a ridiculous question.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: I should have asked him, do you like music? He
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: probably would have said no, I don't never heard music before.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: I usually just wear headphones but don't actually turn them on.
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: No, he's canceling for life.
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  Speaker 1: Oh.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: The popular answer for favorite football movie was remember the Titans.
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  Speaker 4: I said that the week before we left, and y'all
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: didn't agree with me. That my favorite.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: Well, obviously it's not my favorite football movie. Yeah, remember
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: the Titans was the number one. Yeah, the program got
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: to vote.
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  Speaker 4: The program did get one.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: Any given Sunday gotta vote, yes, But like the programs
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  Speaker 3: older than Varsity Blues, any given Sundays, it's gotta be
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: like right, and the same Sunday is older than Varus, it's.
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  Speaker 4: Gotta be No one said Draft.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, the movie.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: About the Browns. None said that one, but nobody has.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: He's scary that's a scary movie for them. None of
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: them want to be drafted by the Browns.
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: Like, not only have people not seen nobody saw Varsity Blues.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: Not only have they not seen it, they had to
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: think about the words I said, like, wait, Varsity Blue?
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Is that a movie? Oh? No, I hadn't seen that one.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: Of course, barely even heard of it. Varsity Blues came
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: out in nineteen ninety nine. Any guesses on.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: The da given Sunday came out? Man, I guess, I'll
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: say ninety eight, nineteen ninety nine, same year.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: All right, so have same air and nailed that boom.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: When did the Replacements come out? It was a big
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: football movie. Placements was later? They too much later?
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: No, it was probably early two thousands, a.
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: Lot of football movies. Thousand, two thousand, an elephant.
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  Speaker 4: Rotten Tomatoes?
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: What's you? Maybe just have awful taste in movies. I
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: think roden Tomatoes sucks. Anytime I see a movie, they're
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: like this movie, he's in ninety percent on rotten Tomatoes.
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  Speaker 2: I watched it.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: I'm like, side yeah, not man. So usually you like
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: you look at the worst the rotten Tomato score is
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: probably the more you're gonna like it.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Yep. I look at the audience score, my people.
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: So what was the one you was it Varsity Blues
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: or the replacements you just gave?
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: Replacements was in two thousand and.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Then Varsity Blues and any given Sunday, we're both.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: Ninety nine years, big big air for football movie.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: We had one in a one.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: I have ever seen the movie The Last Boy Scout
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: with Bruce Willis. I believe I have Damon Wayne. Well,
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: the beginning scene of it is this football movie where
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: this guy's like drugged out of his mind, I believe,
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: and like he's a running back and he's running with
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: the ball. Okay, okay, all right, maybe i'm mister. It's
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: either the runner they guy tackling basically pulls out a
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: gun then shoots the ball carrier, or he shoots the
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: guy trying to tackle him. I can't remember. Oh yeah,
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: this is a city movie.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: Is actually that's actually.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: A movie game? Oh yeah, it's raining, it's in the game.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's the I think it's the running back.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: He's a ball carrier and he's running with the ball
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: and he starts shooting people trying to tackle him.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: Well, that's what I was gonna ask roughness the guy
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: who fired the shot. Did he get ejected or did
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: he get to.
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: Was atmatic first down?
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: Targeting set out one? No, that's not as bad as
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: targeting no shot.
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: He had to set out the first half of the game.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: The following game one series is ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous. When
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: someone brought up air bud, I'm sure, I'm assuming he's
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: made a golden, golden receiver.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, great movie.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: Okay, I mean they had to deflate the hell out
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: of those balls for a dog to catch a football
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: right the cover of this movie.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like Damon Wayne's here, I got it right here. Yeah,
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Damon Waynes is holding a football and then Bruce will
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: fire in the background as a gun.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't actually i've watched the movie.
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  Speaker 3: This is like back in college, and I don't remember
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: how it ends. I just remember that beginning scene. I
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: didn't remember it well because I could remember if it
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: was a ballcarrier that did the shooting or the tackler.
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  Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a ball carrier doing the shooting running down the field. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's effective. Actually, like that better.
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  Speaker 4: I don't get what the plot of this movie is,
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: but look.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: At this, Look at this this movie cover.
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: Guys halle Berry is in this.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: Obviously this was how to be late nineties two.
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: So the film follows a washed up private investigator, Bruce Willis,
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: who teams up with a scandalized former football star Waynes
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: to uncover a political conspiracy involving their former players. I
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: don't know how you come up with something.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Perfect for a movie that doesn't sound good. It's got
• 44:09
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• 44:11
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• 44:15
  Speaker 3: all right, we're gonna get to the bottom of us.
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• 44:20
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