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Kelly Garni: His Bond with Randy Rhoads & the Birth of Quiet Riot [Episode 358] · Booked On Rock with Eric Senich

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  Speaker 1: Kelly Garney, Quiet Riot's original bassist, joins me to share
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  Speaker 1: inside details of his friendship with Randy Rhoades, the fallout
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  Speaker 1: that entered his time in the band, the shock of
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  Speaker 1: Randy's death, and how he rebuilt his life beyond rock
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  Speaker 1: and rolls.
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  Speaker 2: We're totally bummed rock and roll. I mean gott to
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  Speaker 2: leave you. You're reading Little Hands says it's time to
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  Speaker 2: rock and roll.
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  Speaker 1: Band Route up three, I totally booked. Welcome back to
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  Speaker 1: book Don Rock the podcast for those about to read
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  Speaker 1: and rock. Emeric Senich our guest is Kelly Garney. Kelly
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  Speaker 1: started his career as a founding member and bassist for
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  Speaker 1: the band Quiet Riot, which you played with for their
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  Speaker 1: first two albums, before transitioning to a career as an emt,
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  Speaker 1: then photographer and artist. He's the author of the twenty
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  Speaker 1: thirteen book Angels with Dirty Faces, opens up on his life,
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  Speaker 1: his friendship with guitarist Randy Rhoads, and the band's early days.
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  Speaker 1: He's also the author of the twenty twenty two book
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  Speaker 1: Naked Vegas, The Highs and Lows of a potographer's journey
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  Speaker 1: the nineties. Kelly, Welcome to the podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Hey Eric, how you doing, and thank you so much
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  Speaker 2: for having me on. I really appreciate that.
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  Speaker 1: It's a pleasure. And thanks to Greg Prato, WI helped
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  Speaker 1: set this up. Greg one of the favorites of this show.
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  Speaker 1: So thanks to Greg. So let's talk about where you
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  Speaker 1: grew up. You said two boys who wanted to grow
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  Speaker 1: up and be rock stars. You're talking about, of course,
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  Speaker 1: yourself and Randy Rhodes.
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  Speaker 2: That's my story. Yeah, we went and saw Alice Cooper
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  Speaker 2: when we were about twelve or thirteen ish, right in there,
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  Speaker 2: pretty young, and when we saw all that, we just said,
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  Speaker 2: that is who we want to be. We had already
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  Speaker 2: been learning how to play and actually but by that
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  Speaker 2: time we were somewhat advanced in our playing, what more
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  Speaker 2: so than most kids would be. And then by the
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  Speaker 2: time we were thirteen, we did our first club on
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  Speaker 2: the Sunset Strip.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you moved around a lot prior to meeting Randy
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  Speaker 1: right in Alaska at one point.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, my folks were a bit of a set
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  Speaker 2: of gypsies, so it was okay, I didn't mind.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, was it in Burbank, California?
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  Speaker 2: Were you in California? Is where they finally settled, and
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  Speaker 2: and that's where really. My story starts is we're in
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  Speaker 2: Burbank and I meet this weird kid in school, Randy Rhodes,
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  Speaker 2: and nobody wanted anything to do with him. Nobody wanted
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  Speaker 2: anything to do with me because I was a geek,
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  Speaker 2: and and so we gravitated together, and he was already
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  Speaker 2: playing guitar, and then he sucked me into the whole
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  Speaker 2: deal and he needed a bass player, which would be
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  Speaker 2: really a good thing for a guitar player to have
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  Speaker 2: when he's learning. And as he learned, he taught me.
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  Speaker 1: How old are you when you met him? I was eleven,
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  Speaker 1: eleven years old, and he's sitting all alone at the
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  Speaker 1: cafeteria table, right. You noticed him sitting there, and you
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  Speaker 1: walked that up to him and said, hey, man, what's up?
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  Speaker 1: Can I sit down?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because because I usually had to eat alone too,
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  Speaker 2: so might as well hang out with this guy.
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  Speaker 1: He was a quiet kid.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah he was. He was real quiet and low key.
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  Speaker 2: He stood out though by the way his hair, was,
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  Speaker 2: his dress, his mannerisms, I mean, by all accounts, pretty much,
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  Speaker 2: the general opinion of him was he was a gay kid,
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  Speaker 2: and he most certainly wasn't. And it wasn't long before
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  Speaker 2: he had me kind of looking like him and looking weird.
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  Speaker 2: And then I was a gay kid and I was
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  Speaker 2: really not a cake.
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  Speaker 1: So you say he seemed to almost have an aura around.
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  Speaker 2: Him, that's right. Yeah, there was just something special about him.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you've ever seen or been around
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  Speaker 2: anybody in your life and you just looked at him
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  Speaker 2: and and you just went, Wow, they're not like me.
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  Speaker 2: They're much more than I am and everybody else around here.
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  Speaker 2: They're special, They're different, there from another planet. And that
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  Speaker 2: was Randy. It struck me right away. And as I
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  Speaker 2: always say, I really felt like I was the only
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  Speaker 2: one in the whole entire school who saw it.
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  Speaker 1: And you first saw him play the guitar, went over
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  Speaker 1: to his.
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  Speaker 2: House, he was, Yeah, put over his house and he played,
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  Speaker 2: and I went, this guy's pretty decent. I had messed
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  Speaker 2: around with the guitar previously to that, and I didn't
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  Speaker 2: take lessons. He took lessons every day or pretty much
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  Speaker 2: or once a week. I should say I took lessons
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  Speaker 2: every day from him. But he, yeah, he was. He
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  Speaker 2: progressed very very quickly. You know, I always say, you know,
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  Speaker 2: Randy didn't get better every year, every month, every week,
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  Speaker 2: Randy got better every two minutes.
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  Speaker 1: Progressing that fast. His mom a music teacher, right and right?
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  Speaker 1: His dad, what was his relationship music teacher, also music teacher.
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  Speaker 1: What were his parents like? He worshiped his mom. What
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  Speaker 1: was his relationship like with his dad?
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  Speaker 2: Well, when I came on the scene, his mother, Dolores
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  Speaker 2: or Big d as we called her, and his father
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  Speaker 2: Bill had already separated and he lived back east in Connecticut,
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  Speaker 2: and we never saw him. Randy never really talked about him.
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  Speaker 2: Randy was six when he left, so you know, Randy
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  Speaker 2: didn't have a whole lot of memories to talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: And frankly, I wasn't that curious about it. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: his mom was such a big personality that pretty much
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  Speaker 2: filled up the whole book for you know. Well, Randy's parents,
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  Speaker 2: let's see what they're like.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you answered my question because I am in Connecticut
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  Speaker 1: and I have had so many people tell me that
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  Speaker 1: there was a Connecticut connection with Randy Rhodes. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: was always told that his mom had a school here
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  Speaker 1: in Connecticut. Said it can't be because she's out and
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  Speaker 1: she's on the West coast. So now you've answered that
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  Speaker 1: question that the father did he have a school here
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  Speaker 1: in Connecticut, because that's the story I was telling.
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  Speaker 2: He worked for the Ovation Guitar company. Okay, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: sure what he did, but I mean he worked for
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  Speaker 2: the company, and I think he was probably in the
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  Speaker 2: upper management and of it and perhaps the design I
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  Speaker 2: really don't know. That would be an interesting question to
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  Speaker 2: find out. But he had enough juice that he sent
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  Speaker 2: Randy a guitar, which was the guitar that Randy always
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  Speaker 2: played when I first met him. He already got it.
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  Speaker 2: His sister got an acoustic guitar, very nice one, and
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  Speaker 2: his brother got a really really super nice drum set
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  Speaker 2: made by Gretch, who Ovation was affiliated with. And so
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  Speaker 2: they got some instruments from him. And I don't think
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  Speaker 2: a sales rep could, you know, just start handing out
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  Speaker 2: stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: No, And I wonder he may have done some personal
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  Speaker 1: lessons with people, because then maybe that's what it is
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  Speaker 1: too that because I've heard people say that they would
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  Speaker 1: go to somebody in Connecticut for music lessons, and maybe
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  Speaker 1: that's what he was doing. Wow, that's fascinating.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, that could well be. And he had he had
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  Speaker 2: two children, He has two boys, and so Randy had
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  Speaker 2: two half brothers.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, okay, Yeah, you mentioned his grandfather played guitar, and
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  Speaker 1: then most of Randy's mom's relatives had been musical in
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  Speaker 1: one way or another, you know. I so he comes
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  Speaker 1: from a musical background for sure.
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  Speaker 2: That was absolutely a reek of music around there. Everywhere
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  Speaker 2: he went in that house, something musical on instrument or
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  Speaker 2: a picture or you know, or something that said, you know,
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  Speaker 2: this is a music place.
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  Speaker 1: Was he doing a lot of the things that he
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  Speaker 1: would be doing when obviously we see him, you know,
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  Speaker 1: these videos with Ozzie doing all the you know, the
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  Speaker 1: finger work and all that stuff. Was he still kind
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  Speaker 1: of coming into his own as far as that he
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  Speaker 1: said he was advancing rapidly.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, But by the time we were like sixteen and
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  Speaker 2: we're doing Quiet Riot, he had advanced to the point
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  Speaker 2: where he was guitar hero status. I mean, as soon
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  Speaker 2: as people saw him, that was it. They were hooked.
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  Speaker 2: And so, yeah, he had a lot of tricks that
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  Speaker 2: he would do. One thing that's never ever talked about
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  Speaker 2: that he used to do well when we were growing
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  Speaker 2: up to kind of hone our skills. We used to
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  Speaker 2: do a lot of what they called keggers, which is
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  Speaker 2: a backyard surfer bash put on him by a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of stoned out surfers, and they put up flyers all
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  Speaker 2: over the place, which seems like a pretty unwise thing
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  Speaker 2: to do, And a couple hundred kids would show up
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  Speaker 2: and they got beer and they got a band, and
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  Speaker 2: you know, sometimes it only lasted one or two songs,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and then the cops showed up and busted
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  Speaker 2: up the whole thing. But more often than not we
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  Speaker 2: got to play for maybe an hour.
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  Speaker 1: Did you go to see the that Van Halen was
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  Speaker 1: playing some Well, you weren't too far from Pasadena, van Helen.
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  Speaker 2: Was, And at some point we became well aware of
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  Speaker 2: Van Halen, especially when we were at the Starwood, as
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  Speaker 2: we were for a number of years, and we knew
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  Speaker 2: they were playing down the street at Gazaaris, which wasn't
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  Speaker 2: really our type of a club as the Starwood was.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, the Whiskey was the Whiskey, but it had
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  Speaker 2: more of a punk rock scene going on there, so
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  Speaker 2: you know, we kind of avoided that place. The punkers
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  Speaker 2: didn't like guys that looked like us either, the jocks
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  Speaker 2: and the punkers wanted to kill you.
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  Speaker 1: You mentioned the Alice Cooper show that was really the
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  Speaker 1: inspiration for you guys to start a band. Was Mildred
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  Speaker 1: Pierce your first band?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess it pretty much was.
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  Speaker 1: And that was based on Mildred Pierce as in Alice
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  Speaker 1: Cooper kind of thing.
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  Speaker 2: Right, that was the thinking. Yeah, I mean you got
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  Speaker 2: to remember, these are a couple of kids here, ye,
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, we had that and then uh, and that
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  Speaker 2: consisted of me, Randy whatever drummer we could get, and
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  Speaker 2: but eventually it was Drew ForSight, who went on to
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  Speaker 2: be with us in Quiet Riot and is the original
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  Speaker 2: drummer of Quiet right. And and another guy, well a
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  Speaker 2: guy named Guy Guy played guitar and sang, and that
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  Speaker 2: was our band. He only did rhythm guitar, so that
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  Speaker 2: was fine. And and we had that band and once
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  Speaker 2: again we were we were playing keegers.
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• 12:00
  Speaker 1: In was it nineteen seventy three?
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  Speaker 2: No? I believe it was seventy.
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  Speaker 1: Five seventy five, and this includes Kevin dubro on lead vocals,
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  Speaker 1: Drew Forsyth on drums. Right, Yeah, Drew was in Mildred
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  Speaker 1: Pears all right, So let's get to this now. Kevin
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  Speaker 1: was suggested by a friend of yours, and you tell
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  Speaker 1: the story in the book, talk about how you first
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  Speaker 1: meet Kevin, who was described to you as a really tall,
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  Speaker 1: black haired Rod Stewart type and you were not impressed
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  Speaker 1: at first.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's me and Randy were constantly on the lookout
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  Speaker 2: for a singer. And we had been all night at
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  Speaker 2: a very infamous Hollywood club, Rodney Bingenheimer's, and so we
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: were there. We went there quite a bit. We even
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  Speaker 2: played there at least once that I can remember. And
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  Speaker 2: we also, believe it or not, rehearsed in that club
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  Speaker 2: during the daytime, and so we were hanging out there,
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: you know, it got to be too late to really
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  Speaker 2: go home. And by that point, you know, we were
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  Speaker 2: our parents had pretty much given up on setting curfews
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  Speaker 2: and grounding and all that.
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  Speaker 1: It just we gave up on that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it didn't exist in our world. We we didn't
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  Speaker 2: worry about that, and so we needed somewhere to stay
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  Speaker 2: and we.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: There was a girl there named Hillary who was a
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  Speaker 2: good friend to everybody, and and she said we could
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  Speaker 2: stay at her place for the night. So we stayed
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  Speaker 2: over there and we shared a bed, and when we
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  Speaker 2: woke up in the morning, I woke up first, and
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  Speaker 2: I heard her in the kitchen on the phone and
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  Speaker 2: she was talking to some girl who went to a
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  Speaker 2: concert the night before and met this guy and that
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  Speaker 2: was Kevin Deborough and so she was talking about him,
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  Speaker 2: and so well I heard this, and I and that
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  Speaker 2: he was a singer. First said he was a singer.
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  Speaker 2: More said he was a singer. Yeah, And so I
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  Speaker 2: heard that and I said, work on this. So I
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  Speaker 2: went in there and got out of bed and went
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  Speaker 2: in there and I said, hey, there's a singer somebody
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  Speaker 2: who And she said, oh, my friend met this guy
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  Speaker 2: and he says he's a singer and he's sort of
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  Speaker 2: a Rod Stewart type. And I went, ah, Well, I said,
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  Speaker 2: we'll get his number if he can. She goes, okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and so she got his number, and that's that's how
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  Speaker 2: we were born.
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  Speaker 1: You went to his house, right, his mom answered the door.
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  Speaker 2: We went to his house. Yeah, we had been very
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: nearly killed in a car crash on the way there.
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  Speaker 2: So we stopped at a liquor store, and even though
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: we were very underage, nobody cared back then, and we
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: bought a bunch of booze, and because we were unnerved
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  Speaker 2: by the near fatal experience we had, and we showed
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  Speaker 2: up on his doorstep a bunch of kids with all
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  Speaker 2: these bags of booze. You know, Hi is Kevin here,
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  Speaker 2: you know? And his mom's just like, oh boy, you know.
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  Speaker 2: But she was cool and is still cool to this day.
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  Speaker 2: I still know her and she's wow, a wonderful person.
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  Speaker 1: So was it kind of sort of like an audition?
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  Speaker 1: Did you say, hey, let's hear what you got or
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  Speaker 1: I think I remember the book that he was giving
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  Speaker 1: you stuff but there was no audio to it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you did do that, but he also has his
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  Speaker 2: version of things that he always would tell magazines and
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  Speaker 2: then there's my version take your pick on do you believe?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Right, But it was like a video of him
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  Speaker 1: performing somewhere but no audio.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there was. There was video of him with no
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  Speaker 2: sound on it. It was eight millimeter, which didn't have
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  Speaker 2: sound that didn't come along until super eight. And he
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  Speaker 2: you know, it was just jumping around. He looked kind
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  Speaker 2: of goofy to me and Randy. I mean, we really
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: wanted to get like an Alice Cooper type of guy.
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  Speaker 2: We wanted somebody weird, and this guy wasn't that weird.
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  Speaker 2: And and plus we his look, you know, we had
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: pretty long hair and stuff, and and his whole look
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  Speaker 2: just you know, it wasn't us. And so we left
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  Speaker 2: after drinking a bunch of that booze and which he
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: didn't have any because he didn't drink. And you know,
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  Speaker 2: we had him sing along to some records. It was okay,
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  Speaker 2: you know, hard to tell, you know, singing along to
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  Speaker 2: a record, but we just in general he wasn't our type.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, we said, don't call us, we'll call you.
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  Speaker 2: But he did not heed this advice and called us constantly,
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  Speaker 2: wanting to know when we were going to start rehearsing
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  Speaker 2: and putting a band together. And I said no, Randy
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  Speaker 2: said no too, but he kept calling and he was relentless,
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  Speaker 2: and finally Randy caved and said, okay, you can come over,
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: and so he came over. His version says, and remember
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: this is what he always said in magazines. He said
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: Randy showed up at his house with an amp and
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  Speaker 2: his guitar, which we've never ever done that for anybody
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  Speaker 2: ever that we went to see, you know, drums or singing.
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  Speaker 2: She had to prove yourself to us first we knew
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  Speaker 2: what we had and so but yeah, Randy showed up
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  Speaker 2: with a guitar and an app played for him. Kevin
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  Speaker 2: was was amazed at Brandy's talent and oh my god,
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: look at this. And then he sang for us, and
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: and he's sang so great. You know, we said, okay,
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  Speaker 2: let's do it. You know, my version is certainly more brutal,
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  Speaker 2: but has a happier touch.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, Randy suggested the name Little Women at first,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: right after the Luis may Alcott book, and that was scrapped.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: A new name would come about in a rather unusual way.
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  Speaker 1: There's a connection here to the band's status quo. This
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  Speaker 1: is interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and and Kevin, you know it does get credit
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  Speaker 2: for this one, but yeah, he was at a concert.
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  Speaker 2: He would go to concerts. Hey, Kevin actually was a
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: photographer too, and he actually used it. That's kind of
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: what my Naked Vegas book is about a guy using
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: a camera for a certain purpose. But he used the
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  Speaker 2: camera and would get press passes to all these concerts
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  Speaker 2: so he could go backstage and you know, be in
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  Speaker 2: the pit and all that, and you know, it was
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: a pretty good angle. It worked out good for him.
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  Speaker 2: And so he was backstage in a band playing that night,
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: was a band called Status Quo from England, and he
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: was in their dressing room and I don't know how
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: the subject came out, but he was speaking with the
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: guitar player, Richie Parfey, and he made the statement in
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: a very Cockney English accent, well, if I ever had
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  Speaker 2: my own band, you know, I'd call it quite a lot.
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  Speaker 2: And Kevin thought he said Quiet Riot. But what he
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: said was quite right, So we were almost named quite right.
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  Speaker 2: But but thanks to Kevin's hearing abilities, you know, it
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: came out quiet right to him, and so we thought
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  Speaker 2: it was a cool name.
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  Speaker 1: So it really is quiet right. It really is a
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: cool name.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: And you know it's very interesting. Is I still tour
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: around here and there. I just got back from Australia
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: last month. I was there for a whole month, and
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: so I'm still kind of busy musically. But I go
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: to this little, tiny, tiny town in Indiana and I
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: love going there called Saint Menrad. They have a once
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: a year they have a big festival, and I'll go
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: back there and play, sell books and sell merchandise and
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: hang out and have a good time. I love it there.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: But they actually it together a band back there called
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: quite Right, and we did quiet riot songs.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: So eventually quite Right did surface. And the early gigs
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: some rough shows. One story of when you played at
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: a biker bar in Van Ny is called rock Corporation,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: and that's a that's a notoriously rough bar. What happened
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: that night, Yeah, it was that.
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: That was I mean, we really were the right band
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: for that place, but we were looking to play anywhere,
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: and you know a lot of bands played there, so
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: you know, well, in all we should play there too,
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: not anticipating the response we would get. And it wasn't
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: so much that our look that was almost excusable at
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: that point, people just said, eh, they look like that.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: The problem really was is that our warm up band
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: or maybe they were the headliners, who knows, was the
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: house band and they were like your typical every day
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: you know, roadhouse movie biker band playing biker music, you know,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: and then we get up there and we're playing our
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: stuff and they just it wasn't right for the biker bar.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: And not only that, we were actually a little bit
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: better than them, if not a lot better, And I
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: think that had something to do with it too. But
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: they started unplugging us and all this, and then Kevin
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: said something in the mic that really pissed them off,
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: and they charged the stage, actually quite a few people did,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: and to kill us, and so quite to fight ensued
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: on stage, and we had big roadies, so I mean
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: that kind of saved the day for us. But and
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: and you know, we weren't and he slouches ourselves, I
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: you know, whacked a guy on the head with a
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: a I think it was a beer picture.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, Kevin was rock and roll. Kevin was known
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: as guy he would you know, he would open his
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: mouth and say things that you know, would would get
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: him in trouble with the media. Was he like that?
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: This is probably his first time, although it didn't make
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: the papers of the magazines, but uh, but yeah, it
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: definitely got somebody's attention.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if they ever make a movie on Randy rose Man,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: these are the stories, you know, this is the stuff
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: that you'd see.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: I agree. The early days, I get approached about somebody
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: doing a movie on the whole thing. My book actually
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: gets approached a lot.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would think, but.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: Somebody so far, nobody these come up with, you know,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: the right credentials to do it. I'd have to get
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: some cooperation from some people. However, you know, if it
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: was done as sort of a fiction based on true
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: events kind of a thing, I think pretty much anybody
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: could do whatever they wanted, because, you know, they're really
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: the basic story of two kids wanting to grow up
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: and be rock stars is a pretty interesting story.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: It is, and you know what, it was an interesting
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: way to live.
• 24:37
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• 25:11
  Speaker 1: founding member and basis for the band Quiet Riot, photographer Artists.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: He's the author of the twenty thirteen book Angels with
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: Dirty Faces in the twenty twenty two book Naked Vegas,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: the heis and lows of a photographer's journey the nineties.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: So eventually it's time to tap into Hollywood, and you
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: debuted at the infamous star Wood Club, which you mentioned
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: in another band on the Scene, Van Halen.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: We had actually Randy and I had actually played at
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: another club which was open and then closed, and we
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: had played at Rodney Bngenheimer's club as well. So the
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: star Wood wasn't our first appearances in Hollywood on the
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: Sunset Strip, which the Starwood wasn't even on, so we
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: were no strangers to it, and everybody else in the
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: band were so. But the star Wood, Yeah, that was
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: the place to really go see good rock and roll,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: upcoming rock and roll. You didn't have cover bands in
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: the Starwood. Everybody played their own music and that was
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: what made it cool. And you know, it was all
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: ages and I am not kidding you. If you were
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: a fourteen year old kid and you walked up to
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: the bar in order to beer, you'd get it.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, those are different times. Yeah. Rodney Bingenheimer is
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: part of Van Hilln's story because he's the guy who
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: played You Really Got Me on the radio. Because Rodney
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: Bingheimer was a well known DJ. And the story David E.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Roth This is just after they had gotten turned down
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: by Billycoyne. They had the demo tape and it kind
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: of felt a little rejected, but Dave said, you know,
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: we're not going to give up, and he brought the
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: tape to Rodney said hey, we just put together a
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: demo with Jeene Simmons of CASS you should play this.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: And then Rodney played You Really Got Me? And the
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: rest is history, right, yeah, right.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: He used to play us quite a bit on his station,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: too Cool, and you know, and we certainly appreciated that.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: But he was always really good to us. I know
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: there's some accusations floating around out there about him, but
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: you know, I see those and I'm like, you girls
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: got to be kidding me. I saw what went on
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: in that place, and for anybody all these years later
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: to go, oh my god, you know I was molested
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: or whatever. There wasn't any chick in that place that
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: was not asking.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: For Yeah, yeah, I've read those stories.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: If you want to claim anything out there, you know,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: playing well I got taken advantage of because I was
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: stupid and young. That's a believable argument, because that would
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: be the truth.
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Rodney's still with us, right.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: He's still He's still around yep.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mentioned Greg Prado. He helped to set
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: up this interview, and he wrote a great book on
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Quiet Riot called Bang Your Head, Feel the Noise, The
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Quiet Riot Story. He interviewed you for a Yeah. Greg's great.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: He's a great author and and he he is a
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: prolific author. He has many books and this is one
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: of them, in one of the many good ones. And
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: he did interview you for the book and they you
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: shared a story which is also mentioned in your book too,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: about the time Rainey tried to meet Eddie Van Halen
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: at Gazari's Right.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he went down the Gazaris because people were talking
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: about this guy, and Randy said, well, I'll go see
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: what he is, you know, And so he went there
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: with him and his girlfriend jan and he wanted to
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: meet him. He saw him play and he went, yeah, okay,
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: the guys good. And so when they got all done,
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Randy was was trying to get backstage to meet him.
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: And you did get get back there, and and you
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: got to remember Van Halen was doing all cover tunes
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: at this point. Every once in a while they'd sneak
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: in one of their originals. But that was the deal
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: with Gazaaris is a more upscale crowd went there. That
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: weren't you know, the rowdy, unpredictable, way underage bunch at
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: the star Wood. And so he did get back there,
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: but Eddie was was acting kind of crazy and bouncing
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: off the walls and his underwear, yeah, and his underwear.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: And Randy was like, okay, well, not the best time
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: to meet this guy. So so he that was his opinion.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: He said, well, yeah, he was really good, but he
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: looked like a nutty you know, and.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: He never talked to him again.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: That was the That was it.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: That was it was there. Ever, this is this is
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: the big question. You know that a lot of these
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: articles they try to play up there's a competition between
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: Randy and Eddie, and Eddie would be asked about this too.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I there was no competition, and most certainly there
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: was no competition in Randy's world because Randy didn't compete.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: It just wasn't in him to try to compete. He couldn't.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: The way his brain was wired is he could not
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: form the thought, Oh, I'm going to be better than
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: that guy.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: Randy didn't see he didn't. He wasn't a big drinker,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: was he? He didn't do alcohol? Drugs? Was he? Or
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: was he? Did he like the party? Did he?
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: I was worse? Okay, admittedly I was way worse, but uh,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: he was moderate compared to my excessive. Yeah, that's a
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: good word, good word excessive.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: You're right. With the new name and place, our sounds
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: seemed to branch off into a much harder direction. We
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: wanted a sound that lived up to the name, and
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: it soon became apparent that Kevin was a rather good songwriter.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: So reading that, knowing that you have Randy Rhodes on guitar,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: it's still hard to believe that the band recorded two
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: studio albums with little success. You even mentioned Robert Plant
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: seeing you guys, and he comes backstage as you guys
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: are good. So what happened because those first two albums
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: only released in Japan.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: Uh yeah, yeah, you know, the whole situation was just
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: not conducive to little kids. And that's basically what the
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: problem was. We had some guys that had money and
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: spent the money on us and had big, impressive offices
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: and drove nice cars and lived in Beverly Hills and
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: all this stuff, you know, and we were basically hypnotized
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: by all that. And you know there, I mean, there's
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: a term, you know, a starmaker, and that's what we
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: thought they were worked that they were. They were people
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: who were going to make us and take us to
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: the next level. Unfortunately, their methods didn't align with well,
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: me and Randy at least did. Drew kind of went
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: along with it, but Kevin was real into it, and
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: so Kevin was the dominant force in the band. If
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: you went against Kevin, you were going to be in
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: for some serious arguing, and you know who wants to
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: do that. So so yeah, we were group being groomed
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: basically into something that we really weren't.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: What was the label that you were on for those first.
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: Two albums, CBS Sony.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, And it's quite right one quite right too. Why
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: wasn't it released in the US? Why only Japan?
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Back in those days, the record business was a totally
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: different thing. You had to basically have a deal over there.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: You had to have a deal in America, you had
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: to have a deal in Europe, and they were the
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: only ones that would give us a deal. Okay, so
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: we were one third of the way there.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Were you happy? And are you still happy with those
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: first two albums? The songs on those albums?
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: I absolutely am and and that's what I played in Australia.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: I did an eleven songs set off of those two albums,
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: and nobody's ever done that yet, And so I did
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: something similar in Japan, but it wasn't as many songs,
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: and I did it a little bit different in Japan,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: where like every two songs or so, I had different players.
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: But in Australia I had a band that had worked
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: for months to really learn this stuff and they did
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: a really really good job. They're called Osmosis and they
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: do an Ausi tribute thing. And I said, well, these
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: guys are going to be perfect for this detail and
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: they took it real seriously and they learned this stuff great.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, first time we had rehearsal and ran through
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: the set, it was flawless.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Was Randy given pretty much total freedom to do what
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: he wanted? No, No, because some people say it it
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: doesn't sound the same as the Randy that you hear
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: on future albums.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: And you have to remember, you know, Randy was a
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: very driven person towards progressing. So when he got into
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: the Azzi situation, this was a whole new musical animal
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: to him, and so he approached it his way, looking
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: at it from that perspective. Not to mention, he had
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: the influence of Bob Daisley, who had become very good
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: friends with and you know, and and Lee Hirshley. These
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: were guys that were much older than us and had
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: tons and tons of experience. Randy was pretty young when
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: he got into the Azzy thing. He was like twenty three,
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: and so, you know, Randy based his progress on what
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: he had to accomplish in that band, which was clear
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: to Bob Daisley and Lee, and so they kind of
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: pushed him in the direction he needed to go, and
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: there he went, and boy did he think.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: You can hear the first two albums on YouTube, but
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: they're not available on the streaming services right, okay.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah there there and if you can find when they're
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: big time collectors items costs a lot of money and
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: all that.
• 36:14
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• 36:51
  Speaker 1: to the show. All right, chapter fifteen, you're write quote,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: everything in my life was about to change. Everything I
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: had been doing would soon be gone. Every hope and
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: dream would be wiped out. The person I thought I
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: was would be gone. The person I wanted to be
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: also gone. If every guy was handed a clean slate
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: and told you fucked up, here start over.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: It was me.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: So let's get to the fight you and Randy got
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: into over Kevin, which turns ugly. You felt it was
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: time to get a new singer in. Randy disagreed.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it was really all about, you know.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: And it wasn't the first time that we had had
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: an argument discussion about it. I always wanted Kevin out
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: of the picture because then I felt that we would
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: be even if we did lose our big cushy management,
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: you know, the pay for stuff, maybe we wouldn't. Maybe
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: they would have said, Okay, well, you know, you guys
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: are like that, and we should go that direction. You'll
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: be better. Who knows, you know. I mean I had hopes.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: And when me and Randy were having that discussion that
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: particular night, things did get out of hand because well,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: I had robbed a bar the night before, which could
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: happen to anybody. Oh the bar was on fire while
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: I did it, and I wasn't even a lu so
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: maybe I was.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, looking back, yeah, yeah.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: I think I was a luder. But anyways, so we
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: were just, you know, enjoying the fruits of my little stunt,
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: and and things got out of hand. In the argument
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: I told him to leave. He didn't, and that's when
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: things escalated to a gun getting pulled and fired as
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: a warning shot into the ceiling, and then a very
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: big fistfight, which wasn't certainly wasn't the first one me
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: and Randy had ever been in. We've been together since
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: I was eleven years old. We were like, brother, of course,
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: we're going to roll around on the ground and fight
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: and run home crying after that, which usually was me.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it just you know, now, all of a sudden,
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: that was somebody else, and so, you know, Randy wanted
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: to continue with it. That was the thing, and I said, well,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: I said, I'm okay with that. You know, you keep
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: doing it. I just can't do it anymore. It was
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: just getting silly. And you know, all I'd ever done
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: in my life was music. At that point, I didn't
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: know anything else about the world. So I had always
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: wanted to be a fireman, and a fireman told me,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: you know, get into ambulance first and work your way up,
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: and so that's what I did.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So it was a mutual thing both sides.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, it was very mutual. Yeah. Yeah. He volunteered
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: to go with me, he said, he goes, he goes,
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: I'll go with you, and I said no, no, no, no, no, no,
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: doo doo. You keep it up and we remain friends,
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: you know till the end. And that was that was
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: really good, uh, in the end that it turned out
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: like that, because I really think if I would have
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: continued in rock and roll, uh and and and maybe
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: I would have followed Randy into Ozzy's thing. You know,
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: if I'd have gotten together with Ozzie, Let's say, you know,
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Randy went with Ozzie and said, no, got to have
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: this guy, Bob Daisy, see you later, what would be
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: now to me would be like amazing, because there's just
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: no way I could have pointed Randy in the direction
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: that that he and Lee did. So in a way
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: it was a good thing. But if I would have
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: gotten gone along with Randy and we got into that situation,
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: I probably would have rolled more with Ozzie than anything.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: And for me that that wouldn't have been good. I
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: probably would have died. I probably would have died staying
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: in rock and roll at all with anybody. And that's
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: you know, I didn't feel bad walking away from it.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good. Somebody, It's like somebody was an angel
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: on your shoulder, was looking out for you, saying it's time. Yeah.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. They said you need to go on a different road,
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: and that's what I did.
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: So the story of how you found out Randy had died,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: it's very much like a pre internet type of a
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: story where the news doesn't hit as quickly, and nowadays
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: you find out this stuff right away. Somebody asked you
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: how you're doing.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: Well. I don't listen to the radio or anything, and
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: it was all over the radio. So yeah, I still
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: don't listen to the radio.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: I never had so was a coworker or a friend
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: or somebody just.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: It was a friend.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: I went to his house. He said, come on over here.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: I got something to tell you. I went over there
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: and he told me, yeah.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: I mean, it was so sudden too. It wasn't like
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: it was something you could plan for that had to
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: hit you really hard.
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: Oh it was. It was pretty bad for me. And
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: I went home. He came with me and we went
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: to my house for a little while, and my mom
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: came over because she knew Grandy and you know, and
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: then after a few hours, just non stop crying, I decided, well,
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: we need to go to California. I need to get
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: to the family, and and that's what I did. I
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: we drove all night straight to their house.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: And it's pretty obvious how much Ozzie loved him.
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah it is to me. You know, people let Sharon
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: get in the way of all that. But when you
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: talk to Bob Daisy, you know who considered Ozzy a
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: great friend all the way to the end. You know,
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: there was a whole another side to that whole thing,
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: you know, to where it really was Ozzy and uh
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Lee and Randy and Bob.
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well they were called Blizzard of Oz. That was
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: the name of the.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's that, and you know, and you know people say, oh,
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: you know, Ozzy didn't contribute anything. I've heard that said
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: a lot, and he probably didn't till the song was done.
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: You know what the singer even gonna do?
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, Bob, Bob Daisy is the one. I've heard
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: interviews with him where he says Ozzie was great at
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: coming up with the melody, over the over the music. Yeah,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: you know, you give him a song and he was
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: going to take it to the next level. I remember
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: doing There was a brief interview I did with Kevin Debruh,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: it's like twenty years ago, and he said Randy would
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: have definitely gone on to create classical music. Do you agree?
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Do you think he would have done that?
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: His version, Yeah, Randy's version, I should be more specific.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: He would have done some standard stuff versus him and
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: a guitar, But eventually I think he would have created
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: a type of music that was brand new to everybody
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: that nobody could have ever imagined. And it used instruments
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: from all over the world. And I'm very into world music,
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: and I hear, you know, what people are doing with
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: different instruments in different countries, and some of it's pretty
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: metal and some of it's you know not, but all
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: of it is cool. And and so when you listen
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: to like, you know, Siberian, Mongolian, you know, countries like
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: that that that are pretty out there. There's a girl
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: coming to Vegas. I might go see her. She's called
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: Niini and she's Japanese and she plays like crazy Train
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: and oh yeah, all sorts of songs on like traditional
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: Japanese instruments. So she's playing not too far from my house,
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: and I may go there and see her because I
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: see her on like Instagram or Facebook or somewhere. But
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: you know, with those kinds of influences, you know, hidden Randy,
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: I would have liked to have seen what that would
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: have resulted in.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: And for you, you became a photographer eventually an artist.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: You got some of your work behind you there and yeah,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: wrote the book Naked Vegas.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: Two.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well is this this is a great story. This
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: is from the nineties taking photos of beautiful women, and
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: it sounds like a good gig.
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: Once again, we have to go back to a camera
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: as being the culpt that instigated all this. And I
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: had learned years before that you could use a camera
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: to pick up on girls. It was, you know, easy
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: to walk up to them and go, hey, can I
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: take your picture? You're beautiful, I'll send you one a
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: blah blah blah whatever. They never said, no, not back there,
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: try it now and be an old man. But you know,
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: I was out of divorce and I needed, you know,
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: some social outlet and and that's what it was. And
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: so I started out for photographing girls. I would find
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: it at the mall and I'd shoot them for free,
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: just for experience. And I wasn't very good. I sucked
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: and Eventually I learned what I was doing, and it
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: didn't take very long for the whole thing to take off.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: Some of these girls and they were really pretty girls,
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: you know, so they really were models, so that made sense.
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: And they were taking my pictures to modeling agencies, and
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: the agencies were going, who did this this guy good?
• 47:33
  Speaker 2: And they liked them, so they contacted me, and the
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: next thing I know, I had a new business on
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: my hand. And all I did was shoot models all day. Wow.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: And I made like ten times more money than I
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: made in the job.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: I had a whole new career.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And okay, now today lasted twenty years.
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Twenty years, and what are you up to today?
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: You still have a little bit in photography and art,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: you said you do.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: I don't do really any photography anymore, Honestly, I'm burned
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: out on that. I don't know how many hundreds of
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: thousands of pictures. I mostly do my art, which is
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: like that, which is what I do, is I go
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: to old minds that were built in the eighteen hundreds,
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: late eighteen hundreds, eighteen nineties, eighteen, you know, eighteen eighty eight,
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: things like that, And I just walk around with a bag,
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: and I find rusty, old metal objects on the ground,
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: and stuff that nobody makes anymore, and stuff that is
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: genuinely trash, just laying on the floor or the ground
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: that nobody would ever even give a second plance to.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: But I see things in it, you know, I see
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: like photos, pictures.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: You see art.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: I see art. It's like the one behind me, like,
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: that's for the most part made out of hinges. And
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: I found all those hinges, and I was already putting
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: pictures on this type of steel that I find out
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: at these places, and so I said, well, let's start
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: putting the metal on there. Let's see what happens. I
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: had to experiment with about a thousand different types of
• 49:30
  Speaker 2: glue to find one that worked with rusty steel, and
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: I finally did. And so I arranged the hinges in
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: a star pattern, and I went, Okay, that's cool. And
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: this is the very first one I ever made. So
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: I just put different things in there. Well, what would
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: it be like to make a fit, what would it
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: be like to make a comment, you know, what would
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: it be like to make vegetation? And so that's how
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: it's all started. Now I'm like, gosh, I must must
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: have done forty fifty pieces by now, and most almost
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: all of them have sold.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, okay, so the people can buy these,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: Is there a website? Yeah?
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: No, I had a website for a while, but it's
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: kind of a pain in the ass. So so you
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: can just hit me direct on Facebook. I'm not, by
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: any means hard to find.
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, I'll put the link to your Facebook page
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: up in the show notes. People can yeah find out
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: more about you.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: Both your books are still on Amazon. People can get those.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Yes, let's get to those books. Well, this is the
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: Angels with Dirty Faces book. Yep, definitely my best seller.
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: It has sold very well. I was approached to do
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: a book. They offered me a bunch of money, and
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: I really wasn't ready to do a book, but I said, Okay,
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: I'll sit down and I'll write one. Luckily, I had
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: gone to college in the late eighties to learn screenwriting,
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: and so I had some writing experience and I enjoyed
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: writing quite a bit. So as much as I didn't
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: want to write this book, ID, it's not so much
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: I didn't want to write a book. I don't want
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: to tell the Randy Road story and that's what they wanted.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: So I said, okay, I'll get this out of the way.
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: I'll cross this off my things to do list. And
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: so I wrote the book and it's a lot bigger
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: than I thought it would be. And I thought the
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: whole entire time, I said, oh, this book's gonna suck.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: Nobody's gonna like it or buy it. And boy was
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: I wrong.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: Oh no, Yeah, and I've seen You've gotten a lot
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: of coverage for it when the book came out. Yeah,
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: a lot of articles. It's become a good source of
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: information for quiet Right history, Randy history, and just an
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: overall great story.
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: What needed to be done was it needed the story,
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: needed somebody to tell the legit truth. There's a lot
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: of mistruth about Randy spread from here and there, and
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: I wanted people People always ask me, you know, what
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: was he like? It's not so much about how did
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: he play this or that. I don't really get that
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: kind of question. I get what was he like as
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: a person. So I said, well, when I read a book,
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: I'm going to show you what he was like as
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: a person. And I'm going to give you the honestly
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: god truth, you know, words and all quite literally, and
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: so that's what I did, and I think people appreciated
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: that because when you read it, you're like, there's no
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: way this guy would make this up. This isn't a lie.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: And when you look at who Randy was, where he was,
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: what he was doing and all that, the image that's
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: portrayed for him by people who would probably like him
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: to actually be like that isn't true.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: You mean, well, I mean everything I've heard is that
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: he's just a great guy, really quiet.
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: He was a great guy, really great guy. Never really
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: had any enemies unless we were on stage in a
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: biker bar, and he was a fantastic person. But you know,
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: we were teenagers and we were wild, and we were
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: growing up in Hollywood, and as far as we were concerned,
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: there was no rules for us, and so we pretty
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: much let it all hang out, did what we did.
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: You know, No regrets, Yeah, no regrets at all. So
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: you know, that's the story I wrote, because that's the
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: real story.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: And because of course that would happen. What else would happen?
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: You think this guy is gonna get into all that
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: and be this perfect angelic guy that some people would
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: like you to believe he was. I don't think so.
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: It's too easy to get caught up in it all,
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: and not only that as teenagers who wouldn't want to
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: be caught up in.
• 54:47
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• 54:50
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• 54:53
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• 55:20
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• 55:22
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• 55:28
  Speaker 2: It's a hardcover, so it's really classy.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: Now you see the thing that I like about my
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: book that let me find the right chick. Oh, these
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: two are perfect. What happened to me was I started
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: off doing fashion models. I did a lot of fashion work.
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: I actually love fashion and so I was doing a
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: lot of work like that at first. But the interesting
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: thing was is that all these models started asking me
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: about doing nudes and asked me if I, you know,
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: did nudes. I didn't ask them. They were asking me
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: if I would take naked pictures of them. And I'm like, sure,
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: I will.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: I don't have to ask twice, You're right.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: And so I did many, many, many times for money.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: If it was for I should say, actually usually for money,
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: but if I was doing an art project or something
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: like that, because I eventually became an artistic nude photographer,
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: and that's what this book is really a lot about. I.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: I didn't charge the girls. I had a stable of
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: about a dozen girls that I could call up and say, hey, man,
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: let's go to Death Valley and take some pictures. Maybe
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: you know, totally down for it. So these models I
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: had were fantastic. They were always down to do anything.
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: Climb up, get in the water, lay on top of this, whatever,
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: they did it and they were all great. And the
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: beauty of this is especially if you look at these twos, Wow,
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: now it looks like everything is there, but what's missing.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what's missing. Their knacks, aren't tattooed, they
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: don't have a bunch of fucking metal sticking out of
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: their face. You know, girls didn't look like that back then.
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: So what I managed to do is capture girls, you know,
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: before that trend came along, and you know, and get
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: something that will probably won't exist again for a lot
• 58:04
  Speaker 2: of years, yeah, because that doesn't seem to be going away.
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: This led to me becoming the number one photographer of
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: escorts in Las Vegas, which probably we have tens of
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: thousands of who knows, But that was right when the
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: Internet was invented. They all needed pictures. And that's where
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: I really really made a lot of my money was
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: from that. And they were generous, they paid well, they
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: tipped well different ways, and and and you know, they
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: were just great. And and then I became friends with
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: most of them, and I you know, some of them
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: might ask them, you know, I'd say, hey, are you
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: interested in doing some art photography like this kind of stuff?
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: And I show them what I was doing and they go,
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, sure. You know, then I'm not charging them.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: But but again, you know here.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, man, that's freaking awesome. That one on the
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: right there, black and white.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So the book is mostly pictures. But I'll tell
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: you what it's It's got a really good story because
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: I do write in it. Somewhere out there there's a
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: page with finally some writing on it, with all that
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: woman with that one tattoo on her. No, So it's
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: just an interesting story of how it happened and how
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: it all ended. The ending was ugly, well, it was
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: all over. It was sad, and you know, it just was.
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: When did it end?
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: Early two thousand, No, actually about twenty fourteen was when
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: I had totally had it, Yeah, and or I had
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: gotten beaten up so bad that I was done. And
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: that was, you know, because of the Internet, because of
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: digital photography and all that. Suddenly, you know, eight million
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: people were photographers. I had too much competition. I ended
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: up as a wedding photographer. Back then, I was getting
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: five grand for a wedding, and I had all these
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: photographers out there willing to do it for three hundred dollars,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: and so people would start going to them and business
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: just went downhill slowly. I fought for five years as
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: a wedding photographer to keep it going. And I didn't
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: mind doing weddings Actually most photographers run like hell from them,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: but they don't bother me. All I did him well.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: And let's see a wedding picture. Yeah.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: It's just crazy though, how the the technology Internet, all
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: that stuff just changes everything. There's a wedding photo.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I was real good at it. And you know,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: and I have the kind of personality that can roll
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: with the crowd. Personality can get you through a lot
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: of stuff. I learned that when I worked ambulance.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: So well, you and David Lee Roth rock stars.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: Well, he did a little bit. He didn't do what
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: I did. He he kind of rode around. No, I
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: was out there, you know, boots on the pavement sometimes
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: boots in the blood.
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  Speaker 1: you right to the Boneless podcasting network. It is what
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  Speaker 1: you want to be listen with confidence. Well, I appreciate
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  Speaker 1: you coming on and talking about it.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate you, Eric, because I think your whole books
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  Speaker 2: and rock and roll thing is an important thing, particularly
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  Speaker 2: when the writer was a participant in the things that
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  Speaker 2: they wrote about. And but I applaud your idea. It's
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  Speaker 2: it's unique. You know, I've done a million interviews, and
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  Speaker 2: yours is the only one that was like, well, what
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  Speaker 2: about the books? What about the books? What about your art?
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  Speaker 2: What about you doing this? You know, it's always so
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  Speaker 2: centered on Randy, this Randy that you know. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: And we sure went there. But at least I got
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  Speaker 2: in some good plugs about my book books.
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  Speaker 1: I'm pleasantly surprised at how well books in general still do.
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  Speaker 1: But rock and roll books are still people love to
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  Speaker 1: go out and buy these books and find out about
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  Speaker 1: all their favorite bands and just read a great story.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, Quiet Riot didn't escape being in my
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  Speaker 2: naked book. They made it.
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  Speaker 1: There, all right, Where are you are?
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  Speaker 2: You on the right from where I'm seeing I'm on
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  Speaker 2: the left, I'm in white, And it says.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it me, Well that explained. Wow, look at you,
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  Speaker 1: huh with the long hair man?
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  Speaker 2: Because I do tell where I come from and and
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  Speaker 2: and this actually, you know, doing stuff like this was
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  Speaker 2: actually very very very handy h for being a photographer,
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  Speaker 2: because I've been on the of the side of that lens,
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  Speaker 2: so I knew what it felt like.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Hey, Frankie Binelli, you knew right he he wrote.
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  Speaker 2: Frankie Banellen and I were good friends.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he wrote. Did he write the forward for your book?
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  Speaker 2: He wrote the forward in my Angels book?
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  Speaker 1: Right right? The late great? Yeah, the late great? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: quite right, still going and they still have they have
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  Speaker 1: Who's Who's is it?
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  Speaker 2: Rudy Sarzo Now Rudy's in the band Alex Grossi, jes
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  Speaker 2: Zy Pearl and oh gosh, that that drummer and he's
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  Speaker 2: such John Kelly, I think his name is.
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  Speaker 1: Do they play any of the stuff off the first album?
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  Speaker 1: First two albums?
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  Speaker 2: The only song they do is Slick Black Cadillac, which
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  Speaker 2: ironically is about my dad and I read it no
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  Speaker 2: writing credit for it.
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  Speaker 1: Get the hell out. Wait a minute, that's about your dad?
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  Speaker 1: How so.
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  Speaker 2: My dad drove Cadillacs and my dad was he was
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  Speaker 2: he was a dude.
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  Speaker 1: Oh wow, yeah, well that oh is slick back black Cadillac.
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  Speaker 1: So it's on is it on one of those first
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  Speaker 1: two albums? And then they redid it for.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, it's it's I can't remember which one. I think
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  Speaker 2: it's on the second one, but.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yes, and then it ends up on Metal Health
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  Speaker 1: re recorded.
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  Speaker 2: Right right, yeah, because it was a it was a
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  Speaker 2: really good song song and I actually okay this this
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  Speaker 2: happened to me. Okay in twenty twenty four on New
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  Speaker 2: Year's the current version of Fight Riot with Rudy asked
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  Speaker 2: me to play with them here in Las Vegas on
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  Speaker 2: New Year's which is a pretty big deal to play
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  Speaker 2: anywhere on New Years.
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  Speaker 1: And so.
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  Speaker 2: I played live with them and I did Slick Black Cadillac.
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  Speaker 2: That was the only song locked up on stage. Rudy
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  Speaker 2: put his base on me and all I want in
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  Speaker 2: the Cadillacs, see you guys. Yeah wow, So first time
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  Speaker 2: in forty five years I was in Quiet right yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Wow, that's cool. Here I was about to wrap up
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  Speaker 1: the interview and you gave that a nice little piece
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  Speaker 1: of Quiet Riot history. Very cool, very cool. Yeah, Kelly Garney,
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  Speaker 1: thanks so much for doing this, and again thanks to
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  Speaker 1: Greg Prado for help making this happen.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, Eric, you were great to talk to.
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  Speaker 1: That's it. It's in the books.