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MAGA's Big Fat Greek Scandal · Pod Save America

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  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't want to reveal anything right now.
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  Speaker 1: can get to work. Yeah. All right, Dan. 25 days
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  Speaker 1: out from the midterms and the panikins are panicking.
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  Speaker 2: As they do.
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  Speaker 1: As they do. Trump's approval keeps getting worse, not better.
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  Speaker 1: The Democratic lead on the generic ballot keeps getting bigger,
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  Speaker 1: not smaller. I think Nate Silver has it at nine
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  Speaker 1: points as of this recording, which is a new high.
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  Speaker 1: The New York Times just did about three dozen interviews
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  Speaker 1: with some extremely unenthused Trump voters in western Michigan. Here's
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  Speaker 1: a here's a little taste of what they said. A
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  Speaker 1: couple of quotes from the interviews. He's losing touch. He's
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  Speaker 1: not making sense. There's very low energy on the Republican side.
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  Speaker 1: He's just not there in my head anymore. Devastating. But
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  Speaker 1: this is my favorite. President Trump has been saying, vote
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  Speaker 1: as if I was on the ballot, and that's exactly
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  Speaker 1: what I'm going to do, not vote. These are all
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  Speaker 1: Trump voters, Dan. They were Trump voters. Meanwhile, Trump's top
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  Speaker 1: two political advisors fled the country to advise a Putin-aligned
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  Speaker 1: client in the Balkans. Had some better business overseas, so
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  Speaker 1: they skipped town for a little bit. Mike Johnson told
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  Speaker 1: Fox News that if he loses his job as speaker,
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  Speaker 1: he would move back home to start a lawn care
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  Speaker 1: business If that's what God wants. True. It's a true story.
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  Speaker 1: But Trump himself, well, the president is locked in on
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  Speaker 1: what the American people want him to be focused on,
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  Speaker 1: handing out medals to AI billionaires and to himself. Let's watch.
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  Speaker 3: Elon is our modern day Thomas Edison.
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  Speaker 2: And Elon, I want to congratulate you. You're my friend
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  Speaker 2: and all of that.
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  Speaker 1: But you are a very, very special guy. Mr.
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  Speaker 4: President, we have been able to find the medal from
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  Speaker 4: your uncle, and we here want to present it to
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  Speaker 4: you in a beautiful frame.
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  Speaker 1: What a fucking glaze fest he's got. He's giving medals
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  Speaker 1: to Elon, to Jensen Twong, as Trump said during the events.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, the amount of money that people on that
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  Speaker 5: stage had given Trump or donate to Republican causes was shocking.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, like what a surprise. All the science medals went
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  Speaker 1: to the billionaires that have been, you know, supporting Trump
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  Speaker 1: in some way or another.
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  Speaker 5: And the guy from Microsoft at the end who obviously
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  Speaker 5: he's they've done their fair share of like Trump coziness,
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  Speaker 5: but it's not in the same group of people gone
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  Speaker 5: like full MAGA. He's kind of like three steps further
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  Speaker 5: away from everyone else.
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  Speaker 1: And someone at the White House was like, well, we
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  Speaker 1: can't be having Trump giving all these medals away without
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  Speaker 1: giving Trump something. Well, obviously. Let's take the weird story
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  Speaker 1: he always tells about his uncle and being a genius
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  Speaker 1: at MIT that he weaves into every fucking anecdote and
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  Speaker 1: turn it into a video and a special prize just
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  Speaker 1: for Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 2: It is truly fantasy camp at all times for Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But it's also like 20, it's 25 days to the midterms.
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  Speaker 1: This is what they're doing. This was the public event today.
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  Speaker 2: It's donor maintenance, John.
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  Speaker 1: It's donor maintenance. Yeah, that is true. That clip really
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  Speaker 1: pairs well with the New York Times story that I
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  Speaker 1: mentioned with all those voters. What'd you think of that piece?
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  Speaker 1: And did it make you feel any better about the
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  Speaker 1: scary possibility that I know is keeping all of us
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  Speaker 1: up at night or waking us up early in the morning,
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  Speaker 1: that the polls, the very good, exciting polls that we're
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  Speaker 1: all seeing are somehow missing all these Trump voters who
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  Speaker 1: just won't answer the phone or their texts anymore.
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  Speaker 5: I love how you turned this question about Republican voters
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  Speaker 5: hitting Trump into a are the polls right discourse.
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  Speaker 1: What else is there to say?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that is basically, that's basically.
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  Speaker 1: Trying to go down the checklist of worries here, you know?
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to be too, I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: be too excited and get carried away.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, what would be the worst thing that happened if
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  Speaker 5: you were happy for 25 days?
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  Speaker 1: Am I not laughing?
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  Speaker 5: You're not going to be any less sad on election
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  Speaker 5: night if you were sad now.
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  Speaker 1: I told this to someone working on a very competitive
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  Speaker 1: campaign who was saying that they were feeling cautiously optimistic.
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  Speaker 1: And I said, that is a good way to be because...
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  Speaker 1: It's not going to change the outcome of the race
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  Speaker 1: to make yourself feel miserable for the next couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I want to be very clear.
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  Speaker 5: Do as I say, not as I do, because you've
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  Speaker 5: worked on races with me and you know exactly how
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  Speaker 5: I operate. And my goal is to emotionally prepare for
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  Speaker 5: the worst and hope for the best. And I have
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  Speaker 5: done that before. So here's what I take on this. One,
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  Speaker 5: this is hard for me because I loved every single
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  Speaker 5: word of the story.
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  Speaker 1: Usually there's like some to be sure about everything. It
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  Speaker 1: was just gravy, the whole thing.
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  Speaker 7: Perfect.
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  Speaker 5: But I've also been running a 20-year campaign against made-on-the-street
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  Speaker 5: journalism because I think it's so fucking stupid.
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  Speaker 2: We're just going to go to it.
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  Speaker 5: You know, we spent a lot of time in the
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  Speaker 5: Trump 1.0 yelling about the diners.
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  Speaker 2: This is basically like they went to the diner and
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  Speaker 2: now the diners are good.
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  Speaker 1: I had that same thought. The reason I think it's
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  Speaker 1: important now is because so much of the data, like
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  Speaker 1: the thousands and thousands of interviews and all the data
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  Speaker 1: points that we're getting in the polls are pointing in
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  Speaker 1: one direction. And so you kind of want like a
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  Speaker 1: qualitative focus group style gut check. And now this is
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  Speaker 1: not scientific like a focus group. I was going to
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  Speaker 1: say you should have a focus group. I know. But
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  Speaker 1: if you listen to Sarah Longwell's focus groups or other
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  Speaker 1: people's focus groups or interviews like this, you start to
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  Speaker 1: get sort of the sense on the ground that like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: maybe this is sort of in line with the polls.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, this is, if you listen to Sarah Longwell's focus
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  Speaker 5: group podcast or you have the access to other focus
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  Speaker 5: group data, this in Navigator Research has a bunch of
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  Speaker 5: really interesting focus groups like this. It is, this is,
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  Speaker 5: there was nothing surprising in this New York Times.
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  Speaker 2: This is what you've been hearing from Trump voters.
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  Speaker 5: The quantitative data backs it up, not just the Trump's
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  Speaker 5: approval rating, but also in this Navigator poll that came
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  Speaker 5: out this morning on Thursday, one in four 2024 Trump
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  Speaker 5: voters regret their vote. So they either have, so there's
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  Speaker 5: this obviously, you know, whether the numbers are exactly right
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  Speaker 5: or the poll, the focus groups are exactly representative. It
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  Speaker 5: is very clear that there is a wide swath of
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  Speaker 5: Trump voters who either have turned on him hard, who are,
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  Speaker 5: just disenchanted with him or have stopped paying attention to
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  Speaker 5: him right he's no longer the centerpiece of the republican
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  Speaker 5: identity or their own you know personal identity he's sort
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  Speaker 5: of faded into the background and all of those things
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  Speaker 5: are bad news for republicans.
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  Speaker 1: And the only way as i was reading through these
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  Speaker 1: interviews in that story the only way this could redound
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  Speaker 1: to the republicans benefit is if these same people who
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  Speaker 1: are saying this about trump are like well but you
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  Speaker 1: know my Rogers isn't so bad and he seems more
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  Speaker 1: like a normal Republican or Susan Collins seems more like
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  Speaker 1: a normal Republican or, you know, that's the only way
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  Speaker 1: that this could go south, I think, at this point.
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  Speaker 1: Because I do feel like, and I've thought this for
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  Speaker 1: a long time, the backlash to Trump is real. And
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  Speaker 1: I think the only question is, does it extend to
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  Speaker 1: all the other Republican candidates who are on the ballot?
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  Speaker 5: Well, every Republican candidate is running ahead of Trump.
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  Speaker 8: Right.
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  Speaker 1: Except Ken Paxton.
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  Speaker 5: Even Ken Paxton is doing better than Trump's running in
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  Speaker 5: Texas by a few points.
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  Speaker 2: He just has the smallest edge over Trump with the
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  Speaker 2: rest of them.
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  Speaker 5: The other– the thing about this too, I just want
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  Speaker 5: to get to the polls for a second, is this
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  Speaker 5: is very against brand. So I just want to stipulate that.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not saying this is true. I just, as a
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  Speaker 5: mere factual and statistical possibility, it is also possible that
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  Speaker 5: the polls.
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  Speaker 2: Are wrong in the other direction.
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  Speaker 1: I know I've had, it is not a guarantee.
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  Speaker 2: Didn't want to speak it out loud, but I've had,
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  Speaker 2: I think, I think, I think, and maybe now we're
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  Speaker 2: talking about it. I will do it. I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: write this for the message box.
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  Speaker 5: Ooh, I've been up until now. I, because for like you,
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  Speaker 5: I've been afraid if I say it, because as a
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  Speaker 5: number statistical person, I'm also very superstitious, so if I
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  Speaker 5: say it, then it can't happen.
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  Speaker 2: And if I write it, it definitely won't happen. But
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  Speaker 2: I know that's nonsense.
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  Speaker 5: But it's just in 2025, particularly in New Jersey, a
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  Speaker 5: state that swung far to the right in 2024, the
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  Speaker 5: polls dramatically overestimated the Republican chair of the vote. And
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  Speaker 5: you can see that playing out because some of the
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  Speaker 5: statistical methods being used to get more Trump voters in
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  Speaker 5: the polls may be giving a false impression of what
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  Speaker 5: MAGA turnout will be.
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  Speaker 2: And so it is possible. They were wrong. They were
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  Speaker 2: pro-Republican in 2012.
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  Speaker 5: They were pro-Republican in 2025.
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  Speaker 2: They could be pro-Republican this time again.
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  Speaker 1: Also, it could all even each other out because they
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  Speaker 1: could be missing some Republicans who don't want to be
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  Speaker 1: answering pollsters, and they could be missing some low propensity.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Some of these things could
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  Speaker 1: just even each other out, but we'll see. We'll see.
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  Speaker 1: Trump's focus... And not just like the lack of focus
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  Speaker 1: on what matters, but the focus on specifically what's pissing
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  Speaker 1: people off. That's the real, that's what's really incredible here. Like,
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  Speaker 1: in addition to that AI glaze fest at the White House,
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  Speaker 1: there was also, you see his truth social this morning
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  Speaker 1: where he was like, The White House, just a random announcement,
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  Speaker 1: like in response to nothing. The White House considers anyone
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  Speaker 1: that uses the term artificial intelligence as opposed to the
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  Speaker 1: highly accepted new and more accurate term superintelligence the enemy.
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump says he considers people who don't use the
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  Speaker 1: new name for something that he has given himself as
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  Speaker 1: the enemy. If you don't use Donald Trump's preferred language,
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  Speaker 1: You are the enemy. This is where we are.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not really. It's not really focused on the
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  Speaker 5: big things, you say. The thing is, he's also failing
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  Speaker 5: at the small thing. People are not using the term SI,
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  Speaker 5: if you will.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the AI overlords are. They're all like, yeah, no, absolutely. No,
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  Speaker 1: you're right. Jeff Bezos... Someone asked Jeff Bezos about an interview,
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  Speaker 1: and he switched halfway through the interview to start saying superintelligence.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I like superintelligence. Yeah, I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: start saying that now.
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  Speaker 2: It's so fucking super.
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  Speaker 1: You're fucking losers. How many billions do you need before
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  Speaker 1: you can fucking grow a pair?
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  Speaker 5: The fact that people are taking to the app that
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  Speaker 5: we still call Twitter to litigate this debate explains why
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  Speaker 5: it's doomed to fail.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's something. The guy in the Times story who
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  Speaker 1: said he's going to pretend like Trump's on the ballot
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  Speaker 1: and not vote is a 24-year-old Trump voter. One of
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  Speaker 1: the many young men who are really pissed at Trump
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  Speaker 1: over Iran, among other things, breaking his promise to stop
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  Speaker 1: endless wars. Politico has a story today about how the
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  Speaker 1: person tasked with winning back these young men is none
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  Speaker 1: other than J.D. Vance, who electrifies the youth. And here
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  Speaker 1: he is today. offering his own unique definition of socialism.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what the term means anymore.
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  Speaker 8: I think in reality, what it actually means in the
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  Speaker 8: American context is that you want to replace American workers
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  Speaker 8: with foreign workers, and you want boys to play in
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  Speaker 8: girls' sports. That's what unites the socialists that I see
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  Speaker 8: running across the United States of America today.
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  Speaker 1: Foreign workers of the world unite so that boys can
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  Speaker 1: play in girls' sports. Is that a quote from Das Kapital?
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  Speaker 5: It's really hard to overstate how stupid this is. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: like we can, like we could sit here and debate
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  Speaker 5: and explain how this has nothing to do with socialism
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  Speaker 5: in any way, shape or form. But it just also
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  Speaker 5: shows that like Donald, J.D. Vance fashions himself and all
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  Speaker 5: the J.D. Vance second fans of their fashion is like
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  Speaker 5: the intellectual engine of MAGA-ism or political, you know, populist.
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  Speaker 1: The vanguard of the movement, Dan.
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  Speaker 5: Vanguard of the movement, if you will. And he's given
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  Speaker 5: no thought to a question like this.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was notable because back in our day,
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  Speaker 1: most Republicans would have just said, you know, socialism is
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  Speaker 1: the government controlling the private sector and deciding how much
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  Speaker 1: money everyone has and taking away from the makers and
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  Speaker 1: giving it to the taker. You know, like they would
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  Speaker 1: have done something like that.
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  Speaker 2: They would have bit Romney, Paul Ryan did up.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And J.D. Vance maybe sees that that's not as
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  Speaker 1: effective anymore?
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  Speaker 5: Well, it's a little hard when the government is literally
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  Speaker 5: seizing the means of production by taking ownership stakes in
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  Speaker 5: companies in exchange for giving them access to foreign markets.
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  Speaker 8: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: I think that might've gone through his mind as well.
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  Speaker 5: Well, he's, well, MAGA-ism or whatever you want to call it,
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  Speaker 5: the movement is now big government authoritarianism.
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  Speaker 1: It's not small government capitalism. It's, it's socialism for the
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  Speaker 1: people that they like and the people who support them.
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  Speaker 1: And it is, um, everyone else can go fuck themselves. Um,
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  Speaker 1: Trump himself has been going with the strategy of, uh,
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  Speaker 1: trying to bribe people into voting Republican, uh, The government's
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  Speaker 1: putting $ 1, 000 deposits into Trump accounts for children born in
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  Speaker 1: 2025 or later. That was an announcement this week. They're
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  Speaker 1: sending one-time $ 90 payments to 20 million Medicare enrollees, $ 90, woo,
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  Speaker 1: and mailing $ 500 refund checks to some Obamacare customers. And
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: Trump continues to pretend he will give everyone $ 5, 000 if
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  Speaker 1: Republicans win and then control government, which apparently they don't
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  Speaker 1: do now. Here he is repeating this promise again in
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  Speaker 1: Texas on Wednesday.
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  Speaker 3: We just sent out to the victims of this Democrat
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  Speaker 3: fraud checks for $ 500 each, including 139,000 families from Texas.
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  Speaker 3: If the Republicans win, you'll each have $ 5, 000 in your
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  Speaker 3: pocket and economic success for our country.
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  Speaker 2: We call it the Trump dividend.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: It's approximately $ 1 trillion, but we have a record-setting $ 21
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: trillion that's being invested in the country. So when you
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: think of it, it's really easily handleable.
• 17:32
  Speaker 9: It is easily handleable.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Handleable.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: I missed that part. Handleable. It's easily handleable. Just $ 1
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: trillion were just given away. How confident do you feel
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: that all this bribing and attempted bribing won't have any
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: impact on the midterms?
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Pretty damn confident. So I think there's two ways to
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: look at this.
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: One is by various estimates, including one by Mark Zandi
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: of Moody's Analytics. The Iran war, just since the Iran war,
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: the average American family has... spent an extra $ 1, 000 for
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: increased gas prices, increased groceries, interest costs, mortgage rates.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: So $ 1, 000.
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: And so he's giving a tiny fraction of people in
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: the country somewhere between $ 90 and $ 500 or $ 100. Even
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: if you've got to separate between the checks people are
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: actually getting and the checks that Trump is promising them,
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: if you focus on the checks they are getting– Even
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: if they were incredibly persuasive and people are like, you
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: know what? I know it's going to cost $ 90 to
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: fill up my tank over the next two weeks. This
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: $ 90 check is so impressive. I'm going to vote for Trump.
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: Those people are distributed. It's not that many people that
• 18:43
  Speaker 5: are distributed all across the 300 million Americans. It doesn't
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: make a huge difference. So let's talk then about the
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: checks that people– Trump is promising.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: So– G.
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: Eliot Morris over at Strength in Numbers did a big
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: poll on this. And when you ask people, just do
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: you want $ 5, 000, this will shock you. But the majority
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: of Americans would like the government to send them $ 5, 000
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: free dollars.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: They do like free money.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: And even if you tell people it's Trump's idea, they
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: still will take the money, even if they hate Trump.
• 19:09
  Speaker 5: Just like they gladly, even if they hated Biden, they
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: gladly took their stimulus checks.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: During the pandemic.
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: They'll take their free money no matter who the president is.
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: But then if you tell people that the checks only
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: come if Republicans keep the majority, the net support drops
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: 36 points.
• 19:24
  Speaker 7: Wow.
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: A majority of Republicans think it's inappropriate.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: That's sacrifice, patriots. Yes.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: A majority of.
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: Republicans think that trying to give people money in exchange
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: for electoral outcomes is inappropriate.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: A majority of Republicans think that. And this is the
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: most important number.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Of them all.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Only 13% of voters vote. believe the Chucks will actually come.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was. Thank you. I was gonna say that
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: is that to me is that's the only number that
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: really matters. No one fucking believes this guy. And they
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: shouldn't because he has a Republican majority right now. The
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: election will not affect in any way the ability or
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: inability to send $ 5, 000 to every fucking American. What are
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: we talking about?
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: And then, on top of that, like, he promised the
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: Doge checks, they didn't come. But then, The government was
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: required by the courts to return tariff money. Do they
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: give it to people?
• 20:17
  Speaker 10: No.
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: They gave it to some of those people standing on
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: that stage with him today, getting their trillionaire medals from
• 20:23
  Speaker 5: the federal government.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Did you see that same Trump rally, by the way,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: that Trump repeated his, we haven't talked about this, his
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: bizarre riff on Iran hitting Los Angeles, where I happen
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: to be? Or San Diego with a nuclear weapon. This
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: time he specifically said, quote, we're not going to let
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: that happen. We protect our cities. I started this whole thing.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: What do you what do you think about this whole thing?
• 20:50
  Speaker 5: I think, look, there is obviously a very big debate
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: about what he actually meant.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: And there are a lot of reporters who are really.
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: Showing off their both sides bona fides by quote tweeting
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: democrats and saying this is an unfair representation of what
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: trump says i don't care about any of that to
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: me this is more this is just emblematic of what
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: a disaster it is to have trump out there because
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: every time he goes out and he opens his mouth
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: he does something that is unhelpful for republicans Like, I
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: don't think a lot of Americans think that Trump actually
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: wants Iran to bomb American cities.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Even you and I hate Donald Trump. I don't actually
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: think he wants that either.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: But it just has created discourse that all these candidates
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: have to respond to. It's gotten a ton of attention.
• 21:31
  Speaker 5: People who don't pay attention to politics have heard about it.
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: These candidates are getting asked, what do you think about
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: the statement? Do you agree with it? Do you condemn it?
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: And then what's happening now? Republicans up and down the
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: ballot are talking about the costs of the Iran war,
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: which is absolutely the last thing that their campaign staffs
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: and their pollsters want them talking about.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: So more Trump at more rallies.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: I think it's pretty clear what he was trying to say,
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: even though he did not say it clearly at all
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: because he doesn't say anything clearly and he's impossible to follow.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: But it's his usual thing where he's– it's a whole
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: other made-up story that's just as ridiculous– Right. Which is
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: like if I didn't if I didn't bomb Iran, they
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: would have developed a nuclear weapon, even though none of
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: this nothing he did in this war since February has
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: done anything to degrade their ability to develop a nuclear weapon.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: And it's and gas, higher gas is a small price
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: to pay for ending Iran's nuclear ambitions, which we haven't
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: done yet, which we haven't done yet.
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: That's the part that matters politically. The small price to pay.
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: Stop bitching American people. I am trying to accomplish a
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: goal that I am failing to accomplish that you do
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: not care about.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: And we're not worried about.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Right. And I just, to me, it was like the
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: targets here for criticizing Trump are many.
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: And that's why we get up every day.
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: And I don't, you know, I don't need to spend
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: a lot of time on, on how he flubbed his line.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: And now, If Los Angeles fell into the ocean tomorrow,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: do I think Trump would care very much and shed
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: a tear? No, I do not, actually. But I kind
• 23:06
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• 25:58
  Speaker 1: Speaking of Iran, he did announce today that he will
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: not resume full-scale war against Iran, at least until after
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: the midterms are over. And then he can stop worrying
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: about what the American people think. That is the closing message.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: I will escalate the war after the election.
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: Remember when Nixon in 68 closed on a secret plan
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: for peace in Vietnam?
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Trump has closed on a secret plan for war.
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Secret plan for war. Just hold on a couple more weeks.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: Get those ballots in. We'll start the bombing again. Gas
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: will go even higher. You won't be able to do
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: anything about it because there's no more elections with Trump
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: as president after this. Well, I guess the one in 28,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: he'll still be president. But you know what I'm saying.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: All right. So the bigger question here, did Trump's appearance
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: in Texas actually give a boost to the candidates he
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: was there to support? Because believe it or not, he
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: was there to campaign, even though you didn't hear that
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: when he was talking about the checks or he was
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: talking about Iran and Los Angeles and San Diego and
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: giving all the other shit. It's tough to know, tough
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: to know for Greg Abbott because he didn't show up.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: He had a A very important hospital dedication.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Can't reschedule that.
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: I can't reschedule the hospital dedication. I know the president's
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: in town and it's 25 days till the midterms, but
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: you know what? I have to go show up with
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: this ribbon cutting. Ken Paxton was there. The president did
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: try to go after James Tallarico as he continues to
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: workshop this bit he's been doing a lot lately about
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Tallarico's eating habits. Let's listen.
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: He's a vegan.
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: He wants to eat a piece of lettuce, a little
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: piece of lettuce, please.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: But he's been seen.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: You know, you haven't seen him in a couple of weeks.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: I hear the guy's disappeared. Nobody knows. You know where
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: he is?
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: He's sick because he's been forced to eat meat for
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: political reasons.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: And he's throwing up.
• 28:00
  Speaker 9: All over the place.
• 28:01
  Speaker 10: He's sick.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: You know, my wife told me, sir, do me a favor.
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: You have to do me just a little bit of
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: a favor.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: It's not vegan.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: It's vegan.
• 28:10
  Speaker 9: I don't know about that stuff. I'm not into it.
• 28:13
  Speaker 9: And he said, it's vegan.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: Please pronounce that word properly.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: I called it vegan.
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: Vegan.
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: How the hell would I know?
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: I like steak. Is that why James Tallarico is ill?
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Does he have the meat sweats and he's been vomiting
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: from eating too much meat? Performatively eating meat to rebut
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: the charge that he's a vegan. A vegan? A vegan.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: A vegan. Sir, it's a vegan. Yeah, does Milani really
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: call him sir? I wouldn't be totally surprised. Probably one
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: of the nicer things she calls him.
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: I would be shocked if she called him sir. You
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: know who does call him sir?
• 28:51
  Speaker 7: Who?
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Natalie.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Natalie Harp.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: Just saying. I don't know. Just a little mix up there.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: They're making a big deal about a poor James Tallarico
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: who's been sick for a couple days. Like really sick apparently.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he has the flu.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: He has the flu. And he's like, He's also like
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: a type 1 diabetic, and he's got the flu, and
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: he had to go to urgent care. And they're all
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: out there like, where is he? He's just disappeared. And
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, he's fucking sick. People get sick.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing.
• 29:21
  Speaker 5: When James Tallarico is not on the campaign trail, he's
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: at home in bed sick. When Ken Pack's not on
• 29:28
  Speaker 5: the campaign trail, he's in London with his mistress.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Everything they do is so short-sighted, like they can't see
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: around any corners. Like, Tallarico's campaign announcement like, he's back
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: on the trail this weekend.
• 29:42
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: So he's going to be there.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: So all of the, your whole, your whole week's message about, like,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Tyler Rico has disappeared. Like, you got one more day
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: of it.
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: And then, yeah, what is the, there's no even instant, like, it's,
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: they keep saying, like, where's he going?
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: It's missing. It's mysterious.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: And all these, like, mega political types are like, Something
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: must be going on here. What do you think is
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: going on?
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: Like, it's obviously complete bullshit.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: They want to imply he's getting transition surgery to one
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: of the genders.
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: It's like, if you're going to have a conspiracy theory,
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: have a conspiracy.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, they haven't landed on you. They're workshopping something.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: So they're just, they're workshopping it in real time on Twitter.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: where you workshop conspiracy theories. We'll get it by tomorrow,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: I'm sure. And then he'll be back on Saturday. And
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: then he'll be back on Saturday, yeah. The body double
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: will be back on Saturday. After the rally, Trump took
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: it upon himself to challenge Tallarico to a debate with Paxton,
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: which is interesting because Tallarico has already, in fact, agreed
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: to debate Paxton and hasn't only because Paxton has refused to.
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: to a single debate, even the one Tallarico proposed on
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Fox News, a home game for Paxton, still won't do it. Meanwhile,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: the latest installment of Paxton saying stupid shit at that
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: fundraiser dropped Thursday morning, where this time he calls for
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: cuts to Social Security and Medicare.
• 31:10
  Speaker 11: Making some reasonable cuts in mandatory spending, you're going to
• 31:13
  Speaker 11: have to do it. Or we were going to, there
• 31:15
  Speaker 11: is no solution.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: That's just a reality. We have to suck it up
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: and we, you know, So, yeah, that's what is meant
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: by mandatory spending for those who aren't budget nerds who
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: went through the budget battles of 2011. That's Social Security
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: and Medicare. And if you don't like that, you're just
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: going to have to suck it up. I am waiting
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: for the next, the final installment of this. This is
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: this series of leaked audio from the same fundraiser that
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: they just keep dribbling out for Ken Paxton to just
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: be like, honestly, you should just vote for James Tallarico.
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: I want to take a pause in this podcast and
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: give a round of applause to the John Cornyn's campaign staff.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Oh, you think it's them?
• 31:57
  Speaker 5: Well, they, they, someone in this fundraiser Republican recorded him
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: and then gave it to someone presumably in Republican politics.
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: Who's then been, they parceled it out.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: Like it's so funny not to, I know not to
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: drop it all at once and just be like.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: An amateur, an amateur would have just been like Politico.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Here you go.
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: Here's the whole thing. But just piece after piece after piece.
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: And they're leaking it out on Twitter. And it is
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: just– it's very well done. Kudos to them. If they
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: could have done this good a job with Ken Paxton's
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: opposition research during their primary campaign, maybe we'd be in
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: a different spot.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Not a better spot for us, but– No, no, no, no.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: What do you– talk to me about this debate thing.
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: What do you think happened here?
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: I think that all I can– my first thought was, okay,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: they told Trump, oh, Tallarico's been off the trail and
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: he's missing. And so Trump assumed that like, oh, he's
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: trying to duck the campaign trail and maybe he's trying
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: to duck debates too. And just no one told Trump.
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: Trump didn't know that Paxton has been refusing to debate.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: That's like, that's the Occam's razor. Like, they're all just
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: idiots and no one communicated to Trump that Paxton did this.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: But I don't know. Maybe there's a more sinister explanation. No, no, no.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: So I think there is the.
• 33:18
  Speaker 5: Trump's a, this is not my theory, just to be clear.
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: This is the Trump's a like jujitsu political genius who's like,
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: you know what?
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: Not debating is fucking stupid. You're behind. You should debate.
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: You got to get that vacant Telefrico in front of
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: the people in Texas. And so I'm just going to
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: give you a push. Yeah, I'm going to bully Trump
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: to Paxton into it. So that's one theory. And he
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: clearly hates Ken Paxton. So that is possible. The other
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: theory is it's a version of yours, but where they're
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: actually stupider. which is somewhat brief Trump on the race.
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: And they told them about the debate thing, but Trump
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: wasn't paying attention and he misheard.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: He assumed that Tallarico was the one refusing, which I
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: can see in Trump's head, him thinking this beta vegan, uh,
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: wouldn't want it to be a man in debate and
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: just thinking that, and then doing it backwards. It just
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: imagine being Ken Paxton's communications director. This came out at
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: like midnight, Texas time. I think you've just got back
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: from this rally. You feel like you kind of maybe
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: survived the rally. Trump didn't call Paxton fat and stupid
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: in this one. And you get home, you open up
• 34:26
  Speaker 5: your beer, and then you get a notification that Trump
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: has challenged your opponent to a debate on behalf of
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: your campaign without telling you.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: You know, I'm starting to buy your theory that Trump
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: did it, not because he's some jujitsu master, but because like,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: The theme of this and his entire involvement in the
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: Paxton campaign has been bullying and emasculating Ken Paxton. You're ugly.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: You're bad. This guy sucks. Vote for him anyway. So
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: like I could see him being like, fucking go debate.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: I'm just going to I'm just going to make you
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: debate by by saying it publicly.
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: This is the race where Trump has the most skin
• 35:05
  Speaker 5: in the game of all of them. He, you know,
• 35:07
  Speaker 5: there've been like in 2022, he handpicked a lot of
• 35:09
  Speaker 5: the candidates, candidates that lost his life.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: This cycle, Paxton's the only, Paxton, I.
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: Guess Vivek are the two that he thrust on the
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: Republican party. And this is the one where he, Paxton,
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: he's thrust on the Republican party against the wishes of
• 35:22
  Speaker 5: basically everyone else in the party. And so if Republicans
• 35:26
  Speaker 5: win a Texas presidency for the first time since whatever
• 35:28
  Speaker 5: it is, 1988, that will be very embarrassing for Trump.
• 35:31
  Speaker 5: And so Trump's doing what he naturally does, which is
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: to already begin shifting blame to Ken Paxton as opposed
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: to himself.
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: Now maybe he can say Paxton should have debated.
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the things he's going to say about Paxton after
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: Paxton loses, or if he loses, knock on wood, are
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: going to be so much fun.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Especially because the things he's saying about him now.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: This is what he theoretically wants him to win.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Right. Speaking of debates, they're happening everywhere this week. We're
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: recording this on Thursday afternoon, just before debates. in three
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: big Senate races, Maine, Michigan, and Georgia. Let's start with Michigan,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: where Mike Rogers will almost certainly be asked for his
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: take on Trump's latest post, giving Rogers his complete and
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: total endorsement and calling Abdul El-Sayed Mohammed over and over, saying, quote,
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: he goes back to the days of the jihad. The
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: bigger issue for Rogers, though, is trying to pull off
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: an epic flip-flop on Trump's trade war with Canada. Last year,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Roger said that the auto tariffs were, quote, restoring fairness.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: And in August, he called the tariffs necessary. But now
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: he's running this ad.
• 36:43
  Speaker 7: Drinking a little bath and watching the Red Wings, man,
• 36:45
  Speaker 7: it just doesn't get any more Michigan than that. And
• 36:47
  Speaker 7: here in Michigan, we know that Canada is not our enemy.
• 36:51
  Speaker 7: We need to end this tariff war now. Man, man,
• 36:55
  Speaker 7: it just doesn't get any more Michigan than that.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: They're drinking this Canadian beer.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Could you have not tried a few more takes on
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: that one line at the very least? Man, it doesn't
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: get any more Michigan than that. It's the least believable
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: line I've heard in an ad in a long time.
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: John, this is undoubtedly the best of many, many takes.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: It is a.
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: Shit political ad in every sense of the word. It
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: looks fake. It's a ridiculous thing to say. It, it was,
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: it was not.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Filmed in Florida where Mike Rogers owns a house.
• 37:32
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: You know what he does?
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: It has been living for many years.
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: He drinks mojitos and watches the Panthers. That's what that
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: guy does.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: And it's just, he like, you can say this.
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: I'm like, you know, people think I'm maybe a little
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: too Florida or rich because Abdul's been going after how
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: wealthy he is. And so I'm going to like, our
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: goal is to show regular guy. So I'm going to
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: wear a giant fucking sign that says regular guy. And
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: then let's even get into the tariff part of this.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Remember this? Remember when Trump launched the whole trade war
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: again or reignited the trade war with Canada? I remember
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Roger's statement because I was like, what the fuck are
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: they doing? It was like he basically didn't say Trump's
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: name at all. He didn't say the tariffs were bad.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: All he said was like, I need to be senator
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: so I can have a meeting with Donald Trump or
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: I have I can get the meeting that I need.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: to bring an end to this. I don't know. It
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: was like some kind of bullshitty statement that he didn't
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: take a position on either side. And now he's finally
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: all the way against them.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: But he's not even that either.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: Because like they obviously had a meeting and they're like, look, sir,
• 38:35
  Speaker 5: you are losing in the polls. And one of the
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: problems you have is that Trump is very unpopular. He's
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: doing very improper things. So we need to find a
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: high profile way for you to break with the president
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: that will help people. But they walk up to the edge,
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: but they don't do it. He doesn't say Donald Trump
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: shouldn't start the tariff war. He doesn't say that Donald
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: Trump should end the tariff war. He speaks only in
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: passive tense about these things. The tariff war should end. Well,
• 39:00
  Speaker 5: Mike Rogers, who the fuck should end it? Same thing
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: with the Iran war. Remember he did that ad a
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: couple of months ago or a couple of weeks ago,
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: but who knows what time is anymore?
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: And it's like, the Iran war must end.
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: Well, it's like, well, who started the war and who's
• 39:11
  Speaker 5: the person responsible for ending it? But he can't say
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: that because he's too afraid that either Trump will turn
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: up the money spigot, Trump will call and yell at him,
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: which he obviously does not want, Or Trump will come
• 39:21
  Speaker 5: to Michigan, which Trump has already said he's planning on doing,
• 39:24
  Speaker 5: and embarrass the living shit out of him like he's
• 39:26
  Speaker 5: Ken Paxton. But if you're going to be– if you
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: know you have to break with Trump, you have to
• 39:31
  Speaker 5: do what Mario Salazar did in that ad we looked
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: at a few weeks ago, which you have to actually
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: do it.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Look in the camera and do it. But he cannot
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: do it.
• 39:39
  Speaker 5: I used to really kind of cringe at all of
• 39:42
  Speaker 5: Abdul's tweeting at Mike Rogers about what a beta he is.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: And I don't know if that's the best political strategy,
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: but it is not wrong either.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: I know. I mean, it's hard to talk about this
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: because we are record like by the time you all
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: listen to this, the debate will have happened.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: None of you will have watched the debate.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: So that's true. No, all I can think of is like,
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: what a what a great set of questions for Mike Rogers.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: You know, it's like, oh, so what are you going
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: to do to end the trade war? Do you think?
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: that trip president Trump should have started it. Do you think,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: what do you think should happen now? Like, what is,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: what are his answers to all that?
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: But then let's say he has a different Boulder answer
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: in the debate. Then why the fuck are you spending
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: all this money on this ad right now, which is
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: going to be seen by more people. Cause you're showing
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: it during Michigan and Detroit lions football games. Then your
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: debate on a Thursday night, that's going up against Thursday
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: night football.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. That's true. Um, On the Mohammed thing,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: Axios had a story Thursday morning about how Trump is
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: fuming at Fox News for what he sees as overly
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: favorable coverage of Abdul. He posted about it the other
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: day after the Martha McCallum interview with another jihadist reference.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: He said that her interview was a softball interview, which
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: it was not. Abdul just did really well.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he ran circles around her.
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: Apparently, his staff Trump staff actually called Fox about it
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: and did the same thing in August after that Jesse
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: Waters interview that Abdul later used in an ad. So
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: what do you think? You think going on Fox seems
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: like it's working?
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Well, here's what I know.
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: I know that no one, not Donald Trump, not the
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: White House communications staff, not the Lord himself can stand
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: in the way of Jesse Waters' crush on Abdul. Love
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: finds a way, and so he's going to keep doing
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: what he's doing.
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, it is.
• 41:41
  Speaker 5: I think there is a like there's a larger question
• 41:45
  Speaker 5: about whether the Trump's over the top, incredibly racist attacks
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: on Abdul are help in any way.
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: I think the answer to that is clearly no.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: But I don't know.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: What do you think?
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: No, I don't think I think look now by saying no.
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: Does that mean I think that there's no like. Islamophobia
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: and that there aren't some voters and Republican voters who
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: are thinking like, well, I don't want to vote for
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: the guy, not because he's Muslim, but because I think
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: he's jihadist. Like, I'm sure there's that out there, but
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: do I think Trump hammering it by calling him Mohammed
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: and jihadist, like, do I think that's helping? No, I don't.
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: There are ways in which- There's subtler ways to be racist.
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: And even the Rogers campaign can't get out of their
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: own way with this. So a few weeks ago, they
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: ran this ad with this Iranian-American Michigander who had this
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: moment with Abdul at a town hall that sort of
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: went viral on the right. And this was just this
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: young man Iranian-American man to camera saying– attacking Abdul, basically
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: saying what's in all these other ads about his association
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: with Hassan, this completely false bullshit about relationships with the
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: Muslim Brotherhood and terrorist financing, all this other stuff that
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: is in the ether in a lot of the right-wing
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: ads about him. But then in that ad, they end
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: by saying, I want someone who's going to stand up
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: to the IRGC. So it's like I want someone– I
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: need a senator who's going to be for this war
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: in Iran that everyone hates. Which is just– Because there
• 43:16
  Speaker 5: is something– like we debated this on text, you, me, Ben,
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: and Tommy at some point. But having this person deliver
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: the message is a way to sort of ally the
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: accusations of racism in it. Because the audience here is
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: not necessarily Arab-American people in Michigan. It is white voters
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: who may be susceptible to this but also may be
• 43:41
  Speaker 5: sensitive towards racism and to try to do it that way.
• 43:43
  Speaker 5: but they can't even do it there because then they
• 43:45
  Speaker 5: basically turn it into a pro Iran war ad at
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: the end.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. My view on all this is that like, there's,
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: there's so many ads now that it's all just wallpaper
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: at this point. And that really for any race and
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: this race too, for dual, it's about like, do voters
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: just get this overall sense that he's too extreme, you know?
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: And, and the times poll says they do.
• 44:11
  Speaker 9: Right.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Um, And or at least some do, you know.
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: Well, the more voters.
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: Think Abdul's extreme, that Roger's extreme is the only Democratic
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: candidate in the key Senate races who has that challenge.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Right. Right. And so the challenge is presenting Abdul as
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: the as close to a generic Democrat as you can.
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: You can now that cuts both ways because like he's
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: not a generic Democrat in ways that I think are
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: helping him in that poll. Right. Which is like he
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: is better. on economic messaging and health care than any
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: other of the Senate Democrats that they've tested.
• 44:44
  Speaker 7: Right.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: So you kind of it goes both ways on this.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: But like, I do think that's why I don't think
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: any one ad is going to do this or like
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: be particularly effective or not. I think it's just like
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: an overall environment of like messaging about him. And at
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, is the messaging more like, Oh,
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe he's a little further to the left
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: than me, but seems like he's a good Michigander and
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: he's going to stand up for us and going to
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: like maybe try to put money in our pocket. So
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: I'm with him or he seems a little too extreme. Right.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: Like that. That to me is the end. And I
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: think all these ads contribute to it. And whatever happens
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: on the debate stage, if anyone sees it.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: We will because we're going to watch it. But we're
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: going to watch it.
• 45:24
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  Speaker 1: Let's talk about Maine. Troy Jackson just got a Barack
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  Speaker 1: Obama endorsement this week, which, while not a real shocker,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: it does help validate Jackson's accomplishments, lifts up his bio,
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: gives him a little moment in the news. I assume
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Barack Obama is still pretty popular in Maine. state that
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: he won a couple of times. Jackson also had a
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: pretty good debate on Tuesday, which was fairly tame, but
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: it also yielded just a priceless moment from woman of
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: the people, Susan Collins. Let's listen.
• 48:11
  Speaker 11: Senator Collins has been a government employee her entire life.
• 48:15
  Speaker 11: She's always had health care. She's always had, you know,
• 48:19
  Speaker 11: a steady income coming in. That's not the way it
• 48:22
  Speaker 11: is for most of us. I mean, healthcare is a
• 48:25
  Speaker 11: real challenge and she's made it worse by advancing the
• 48:28
  Speaker 11: big beautiful bills.
• 48:29
  Speaker 13: First of all, I have not been insured my whole life.
• 48:34
  Speaker 13: I spent a year when I was running for governor
• 48:39
  Speaker 13: in 1994, where I could not afford health insurance.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: 22 years ago, when I was first running for.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: Office, 32 years ago, John.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, God, I'm old.
• 48:55
  Speaker 6: Fuck. Yes.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: 32 years ago, when I was first running for office,
• 48:59
  Speaker 1: there was a brief moment when I did not have
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: government health care.
• 49:04
  Speaker 5: It's so funny because there are two arguments that the
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: Jackson campaign is making about Susan Collins. One is she's
• 49:13
  Speaker 5: a Trump stooge. She's going to help Trump, help the Republicans.
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: We're a Democratic state. Don't do that. The other one
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: is that she's been in office forever. She's been a public,
• 49:21
  Speaker 5: she's been in government forever and not enough has changed.
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: And so she responds to this question of saying, look,
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: and she does it with the tone of gotcha.
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: You stepped in at Troy Jackson.
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: I'm going to show you that 32 years ago, I
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: briefly briefly took a break between my taxpayer-funded salary to
• 49:43
  Speaker 5: try to get another taxpayer-funded salary. And in that sabbatical,
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: while I was trying to get another government job, I
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: did not help.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: I dealt with the hardship.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: True hardship.
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: And all of you former candidates can understand how hard
• 49:57
  Speaker 5: that would be if you were alive 32 years ago.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: When I did this.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: Truly one of the more amazing moments. Yeah. Like, I
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: know that everyone, and I heard you and Tommy talk
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: about this on Pod Save America Only Friends, which is
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: our secret episode of Pod Save America that you can
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: all get if you subscribe at crooked.com slash friends and
• 50:15
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  Speaker 1: kinds of other benefits. And you support the work we're
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  Speaker 1: doing here at Crooked Media, which is trying to get
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: people involved in politics. Anyway, that's just a digression. Much
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: like Susan Collins' digression from government healthcare back in 1994
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: for a few months. But when you guys say this, like,
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: there was the whole road salt moment in that debate, too,
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: where at one point she's, like, she's bragging, too, that, like,
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: When I didn't I didn't support this trade war because
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: I got I got road salt off the tariff list
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: with Canada. And then Troy Jackson's like, you can't eat
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: road salt. And like that's everyone said, that's a big moment,
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: which is it was a fine moment, I thought. But like,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: I think this this moment, this is every this is
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: every argument about Susan Collins and every argument you would
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: ever want to make against a Republican in this environment.
• 51:06
  Speaker 5: The road salt thing, which, as you mentioned, Tommy, I
• 51:08
  Speaker 5: talked about, but You're right. This is not like where's
• 51:12
  Speaker 5: the beef moment in debate history.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: It's a good moment.
• 51:17
  Speaker 5: But then I saw a clip today of Troy Jackson
• 51:20
  Speaker 5: doing a press avail. And the question was, Troy, Susan
• 51:25
  Speaker 5: Collins' campaign says that you are not giving her enough
• 51:28
  Speaker 5: credit with your road salt attack. It doesn't give the
• 51:32
  Speaker 5: full breadth of everything she's done for Maine.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: And he's like, great. I'm glad you got road salt.
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: Road salt's important. That's not enough. Do more.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Seriously. I mean, my vibe, the vibe I got from
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: Susan Collins watching that debate and it actually made me
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: angrier is that like she seemed so offended.
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: To even be on that stage having to answer for
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: her time in public office and have to actually work
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: to run again for reelection for her fucking. Tenth term
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: in office. It's not that much, but whatever it is,
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: she's been there for 38 years now. So she wants
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: another six, even though she promised she would only run
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: for two terms, broke that promise. And how dare you
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: question how much I've done for this state? even though,
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: or how dare you question my independence, even though I've
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: actually voted with Donald Trump and the Republicans 95% of
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: the time and all the times that I brag about
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: my independence, it's when the Republicans didn't need my vote
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: so I could performatively be independent so I could win reelection. Yeah.
• 52:35
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's, she, look, she is a tough person
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: to beat. She does suck.
• 52:39
  Speaker 5: She is giving off the vibes of the kind of
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: incumbents who go down in years like this.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: I know she is. She is. How are you feeling
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: about that race? Um, Reid has a question here. I'm
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: going to ask it like it's mine, but it's not mine.
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: He said, in Obama's endorsement video, he tells Democrats, do
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: not sit this one out. Do you think that reflects
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: any real turnout concerns that the campaign is seeing, or
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: is that just, quote unquote, my anxiety? I'm not saying
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: that I'm sanguine about this race, but I Oh, you're.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: Less anxious than Reed? Fucking congratulations.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I have plenty of concerns about everything. Turnout
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: is not– maybe turnout will be a new one, but
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: it was not one of the ones I was thinking
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: about for me.
• 53:18
  Speaker 5: I don't– having– you and I have both been around
• 53:20
  Speaker 5: the writing of these videos. I don't think that that
• 53:22
  Speaker 5: was necessarily a specific line based on polling. But it
• 53:27
  Speaker 5: is true, and this has been sort of mysterious to
• 53:30
  Speaker 5: both of us, that there are a significant number of
• 53:32
  Speaker 5: people in Maine who seem not to like Troy Jackson,
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: including some Democrats. And so I think a little– whether
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: they're people who supported Plattner, who didn't like Plattner being
• 53:42
  Speaker 5: gone or the process by which we got here, or
• 53:44
  Speaker 5: people who were supporting Mills, who don't like any of this,
• 53:46
  Speaker 5: and Mills and Jackson do not like each other. And
• 53:49
  Speaker 5: as of like two weeks ago, Mills had not endorsed Jackson,
• 53:52
  Speaker 5: and Jackson had not asked for the endorsement. everyone get
• 53:55
  Speaker 5: over your shit and let's try to win this race.
• 53:57
  Speaker 5: So I think there is some sense or fear maybe
• 54:00
  Speaker 5: that some of the people who are not enthusiastic about
• 54:03
  Speaker 5: Jackson for some reason, because of how this process played
• 54:05
  Speaker 5: out may sit out. And so just like get in here,
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: get in the fight. I don't know if that's a
• 54:10
  Speaker 5: real concern or not, but if I was trying to
• 54:11
  Speaker 5: find a reason why that line would be in there,
• 54:13
  Speaker 5: that would be it.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I would say to all the main Democrats out there,
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: I know it's been a rough one, but look to Michigan.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: They had a, an extremely divisive primary and you had
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: Gretchen Whitmer was out there with Abdul, uh, this week.
• 54:28
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: Haley Stevens has been saying great things like all the mission,
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: Dana Nessel, like all the Michigan Democrats have been coming together.
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: Alyssa Slotkin appeared with Abdul, like everyone who was on
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: either side of the primary Mallory Morrow, they've all come
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: together to really work hard to try to get Abdul elected.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: And I really wish, I do think that Troy Jackson
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: would probably benefit from more main Democrats and national Democrats
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: kind of, you know, uh, Because, like, Maine is the
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: kind of state that, again, it wants to go Democratic.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: Those voters want a Democratic Senate. That's what they're telling
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: even the New York Times poll that showed Collins ahead.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: You had people, most people, wanting a Democratic Senate. So, like,
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: I feel like the Democrats there just have to be
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: reminded that, like, this is our guy and this is
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: our ticket to a Democratic Senate and not a Republican Senate.
• 55:15
  Speaker 5: I mean, having said all of that, I mean, Troy
• 55:17
  Speaker 5: Jackson has, like, I think it's around a three-point lead
• 55:19
  Speaker 5: in the polling average right now. Although Charlie Cook of
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: the Cook Political Report said the other day, or said today,
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: that he hears there's a Washington Post poll coming.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: Out that's going to have Collins ahead?
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: He didn't say that, though.
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: He didn't say that?
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: No, Dan. People are so fucking annoying. He said, I
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: hear there's, I think there's a Washington Post poll that's
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: likely coming, and maybe it will show what I think
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: was going to happen in this race, which is Susan
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: Collins pulling ahead. But it's weird that... Why would the
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: post-shore poll people do a poll, now it's Thursday, that
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: it's not out, but they would give an early poll
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: to Charlie Cook several days before they put it out?
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: No, it's not that they would do that.
• 56:08
  Speaker 5: It's the way the Cook process works. They do a
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: lot of data analysis, but one of the things is,
• 56:14
  Speaker 5: and I've done this before way, way back in the day,
• 56:17
  Speaker 5: is you come in and you're in an open dialogue
• 56:20
  Speaker 5: with the people who do the Senate race ratings.
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: And you, and so it's possible, like the way I.
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: Interpreted this was, and this, maybe this is just like Garble,
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: is there are times when you know, like a campaign
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: knows that what the poll, it has a general idea
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: that the poll is going to show something one way
• 56:34
  Speaker 5: or the other. And that they, you could, like they
• 56:37
  Speaker 5: are trying, you want to influence those ratings because it
• 56:40
  Speaker 5: can lead to more donations and more attention on your race.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: So I can see one of the campaigns told Charlie Cook, we.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: Think a poll is coming.
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: Or told the people who, like Charlie Cook sort of,
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: I think he doesn't, he just writes columns now, but like,
• 56:52
  Speaker 5: The woman who does– Jessica Taylor, I think her name is,
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: who does the Senate race ratings. I think they probably
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: told her. But it was all spousal.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: This is all bullshit.
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: And there's a poll coming. And were it to show this,
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: it would be the second. And if the poll after
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: that showed it, it would be the third.
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: So who knows? Again, who knows? By the time you're
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: listening to this, we could wake up tomorrow.
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the poll could be out.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: The poll will be there.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: It could not be out.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: We don't know. Don't sound like idiots or not.
• 57:13
  Speaker 5: The night after you listen to this will be another
• 57:14
  Speaker 5: debate because they do like– it's basically the same.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: Four main debates. And two in a week. Yeah. It's
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: so bizarre.
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: They have the same schedules.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: It's like a playoff. It's like the NBA, WMA playoffs. Yes.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Play one night.
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: You're on one night, off one night.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: Wild. In Iowa, there was a debate Wednesday night in Iowa.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: Josh Turek and Ashley Hinson debated. Like Mike Rogers, Hinson
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: is a Republican who wants credit for breaking with Trump
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: without actually being willing to make the break. In this case,
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: it is voting to rein in the Iran war.
• 57:44
  Speaker 9: How do you define successful and immediate?
• 57:47
  Speaker 14: And why did you vote against a resolution in Congress
• 57:49
  Speaker 14: to call for the war to end?
• 57:50
  Speaker 12: We do need to bring it to an immediate and
• 57:52
  Speaker 12: successful end. And to me, that means not allowing them
• 57:54
  Speaker 12: to have a nuclear weapon and making sure that we're
• 57:57
  Speaker 12: working with and protecting our allies in the region. I
• 58:00
  Speaker 12: trust in our US military, the greatest fighting force in
• 58:02
  Speaker 12: the world, to bring this to a close as quickly
• 58:05
  Speaker 12: as possible, because I know people are getting squeezed.
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: So why vote against the resolution?
• 58:09
  Speaker 12: I don't think we need another resolution, and I certainly
• 58:11
  Speaker 12: don't want to see the president not be able to
• 58:14
  Speaker 12: do an orderly end to this war.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: You think that's going to fly?
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: I don't, John. I don't.
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: It's the same thing where it's like she's trying to
• 58:24
  Speaker 5: break with Trump but can't actually do it because she
• 58:26
  Speaker 5: doesn't want to anger Trump, and this is sort of
• 58:28
  Speaker 5: the prison that he's put all of these Republicans in.
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That's probably the— I think for all of these Senate races,
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: that seems like the closest one to me. because that's
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: the one that's had Turek down the most or at
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: least tied. And it feels like, and Rob Sand in
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: the governor's race is so far ahead and all these
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: polls that still have Turek and Hinson either tied or
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: one of them like one or two points ahead.
• 58:55
  Speaker 5: Turek is an awesome candidate in every way, shape or form,
• 58:57
  Speaker 5: but he performs a little bit more like a, he's
• 58:59
  Speaker 5: just only outperforming a generic Democrat, but in these other
• 59:02
  Speaker 5: races where Democrats are just exceeding the generic ballot or
• 59:06
  Speaker 5: the political environment, they are candidates who are incredibly well-known.
• 59:10
  Speaker 5: like Sherrod Brown, like Roy Cooper, like Mary Patola, who
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: have a brand independent. Turek doesn't have that because he
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: was just a state legislator and isn't known as well.
• 59:18
  Speaker 5: So he is a little more uphill battle. And Hinson
• 59:21
  Speaker 5: also performs a little bit more like a generic Republican
• 59:23
  Speaker 5: because she's not particularly well-known. So you don't have, she
• 59:25
  Speaker 5: is an incumbent Republican, but it's not the same.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: As like I think she has it even better than
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: that because she's– like, yeah, she's a member of Congress.
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: But before she was a member of Congress, she was
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: local Iowa television.
• 59:38
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: So, like, people knew her as not a politician, which
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: is the best way to be known. Yes.
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: And this is a little bit like when people worry
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: about Minnesota.
• 59:47
  Speaker 7: Yes.
• 59:47
  Speaker 5: One of the things that Michelle Tafoya has is she
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: is a media-savvy outsider. And that is– and you develop
• 59:52
  Speaker 5: a relationship. Like, it's why Carrie Lake, even though she
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: obviously lost by a lot, It's why she got to
• 59:57
  Speaker 5: where she was, because she had that relationship with voters.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 5: And that gives her a little bit of a leg
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: up here. But I think Rob Sand may have coattails, which.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: Will help Turk. That would be the key. Last thing
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: before we get to Levitt's conversation with Angie Nixon. The
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal has a wild new story about Kimberly Guilfoyle,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: Trump's ambassador to Greece. Former Fox News host, ex-fiance of
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: Don Jr., ex-wife of Gavin Newsom. According to Signal messages
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: reviewed by the journal, Trump donor Eric Dieters offered Guilfoyle
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: a million dollars to use her influence with the Trump
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: administration to help with his various tax, legal, other issues.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: Guilfoyle bragged to Dieters that everyone from cabinet secretaries to
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: Kash Patel gets right back to her. Then, just before
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: her confirmation hearing, she asked Dieters to secretly pay off
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: her $ 100, 000 Amex bill. The message said, quote, you could
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: just send it here. It won't show up anywhere. Followed by, quote, honey, please,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: I need you to get this done for me today.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: Dieters did not pay. And yesterday, he went on MS
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: Now to speak his mind.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 6: Kimberly Guilfoyle is a grifter. Kimberly Guilfoyle, I have no doubt,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 6: has done this to more than me. She's doing it
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 6: right now in Greece. The only thing that bothers me
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 6: about Don Jr. and Eric Trump is how they, along
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 6: with their father, are getting rich out in the open
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 6: with crypto and everything else.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: I'm a Midwest farm boy.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: I'm a good dude.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: I don't like their yuck yuck world.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: You couldn't pay me to go back to Mar-a-Lago.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: Wow. The New York Times should have interviewed him as
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: part of that story.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: He's not going to the right diners in Western Michigan.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Guilfoyle's lawyer is obviously disputing the authenticity of the messages, sure. Meanwhile,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: the Daily Mail reports that the State Department is now
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: investigating separate complaints about Guilfoyle's conduct as ambassador in Athens.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: The Dieter story was before she was ambassador, but when
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: she got there, trouble, including an incident where she was–
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: This is awesome. Where she was allegedly drinking in Mykonos
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: at 4 a.m., called her head of security because she
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: wanted more ice. She ran out of ice at 4 a.m.,
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: so she called her head of security. He did not
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: answer because he was sleeping because it was 4 a.m.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: And because he didn't answer, she demoted him the next day.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: Marco Rubio declined to comment on all of this before
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: a speech in Greece on Wednesday where he praised her leadership.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: And here's how J.D. Vance handled the question right after
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: he defined socialism.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 15: Do you have any reaction to a U.S. government official,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 15: in this case a U.S. ambassador, asking someone to pay
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 15: off debt in exchange to access to other government officials?
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: Well, so....
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 8: With that hypothetical, Jim, obviously I don't love that, but
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 8: I don't know exactly who you're talking about.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: I don't know the full details.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: I don't love that.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: Who doesn't, John?
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: It doesn't sound great. Now, if you told me it
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: was a Democrat, I would condemn it pretty quickly, but
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: I don't know who it could be. Probably someone that
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: I work with.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: It probably falls under as purview as fraud czar, I'd say.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what the fuck fraud czar? Dan, what do you
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: think about this story?
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: There is so much in this story.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: So much.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: Every word is a joy. And we could talk about it.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: Treat yourself.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: Treat yourself to this story.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: Yes, treat yourself.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: It is funny that we listened to a reaction that
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: Marco Rubio had to this where he was chastised. I
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: think we can only see the clip out of context,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 5: but it seemed like they were asking him about it.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: And he's like, look, I'm not going to let you guys,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: the press, be the only arbiters of truth here. So
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 5: his argument is, I'm not going to listen to the
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 5: newspaper owned by Rupert Murdoch to tell me what's happening.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: That has the signal messages. Yes.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 5: It's the thing that is, that I love the most
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: about it is that she might be the dumbest fucking
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 5: criminal in the world where she keeps telling, like he
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 5: keeps texting her like about the money she wants.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: And he, she keeps saying, stop papering this.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: Eric, I really wish you would stop papering all these things.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: And then another quote, it's unbelievable when we have a
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: private arrangement with you that you would now CC a
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: producer talking about money. Do not say we have any arrangement.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: The producer in question there was a Tucker Carlson producer
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: because there was apparently an offer of a million dollars
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: to get an appearance on a Tucker Carlson podcast, which
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: never came to fruition. I think this might have been
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: my favorite signal. Quote, what a nightmare. You'll literally cost
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: me my ambassadorship. Stop writing. Also, very privately, she continued,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: if you write an email or a text about I'm
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: going to kill you because I love you, but you're
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: so out of control.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 5: But she keeps telling him to stop texting, but she's
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 5: telling him by texting.
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: It's like at that point, like I.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 16: Pick up the phone, pick up those like do not
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 16: text about this, because if you were to text about it,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 16: that would allow the police and the authorities to read
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 16: the text and put us both in jail.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 2: Hit send.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: Three sources say investigators are examining allegations involving potential substance abuse,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: private planes and helicopters, improper gifts and Guilfoyle's relationship. with
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: an energy construction company. This is all alleged in the
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: Daily Mail piece that was the follow-on to the incredible
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal piece.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 5: But also in the Wall Street Journal piece, it talks
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 5: about how after Trump lost, she tried to monetize her
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 5: role as a mega icon into a businesswoman.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: She started a hair care product line. She started a.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 5: High-end champagne and vodka business, I think. And there was
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 5: a pitch deck that she did for a dinner at
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 5: Mar-a-Lago trying to raise a bunch of money for it,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 5: promising that they would get to $ 75 million in revenue
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 5: in three years.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: And then she shut the business down like three weeks later.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: It's also like the whole like I need $ 100, 000 to
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: pay off my Amex bill right now. Sam Stein at
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: the Bulwark interviewed this Dieters guy as well today. And
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: so I was watching a little bit of that. And
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: Sam's like, well, why didn't she need this money? Like
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: she's not– she's like a person of means. Like she
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: has a lot– like millions of dollars. She has no
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: debts on her public records. And Dieters is like– because–
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: It's her lifestyle. She's just like been living high on
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: the hog over as ambassador to Greece and she's fucking
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: partying in Mykonos and doing all this shit. And so
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: she's just like racking up these bills and just wants
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: random donors to pay them off by promising influence in
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: the Trump administration.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: You have to be ambassador.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 5: She's got to send all of her financial records to
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 5: the Senate and including your debt. So she's going to
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 5: have to report this $ 100, 000 Amex debt. Which would have
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 5: been quite embarrassing. And so she's trying to get that
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 5: off the books before.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: Oh, that makes sense. That makes sense.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 5: But also in this story, it says that when she
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 5: got divorced from Don Jr., she tried to sell their
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 5: mansion in Florida, I believe, for like $ 7 million. They
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 5: bought it for $ 7 million. She tried to sell it
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 5: for $ 30 million, I think, thinking that some, like, you know,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 5: someone trying to buy influence the Trump administration would overpay
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 5: like four X the price for the price for the house.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: A Russian oligarch paid for Don jr's next wedding. Someone
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: can step in there and, and, you know, pay up,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: pay a little higher price for the house.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 5: And, but then she, I guess Don jr ended up
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 5: buying it out, buying her out from it for a much,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 5: much cheaper price, which is why she needed the a
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 5: hundred thousand dollars to pay her Amex bill.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: I would say, I can't imagine she'll be ambassador for
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: long after this, but, um, I don't know.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: She might know too much. That's why she's ambassador now.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: I know. That's what I was thinking. Because I'm like,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: maybe she's going to go down. Because, like, who cares
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: at this point about Kim Guilfoyle and that family, right? But,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: of course, she could, you know. She was around for
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. She was around for a lot
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: of stuff. Yeah. So, good times. Good times.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 7: All right.
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  Speaker 4: Joining me now, it's Angie Nixon, the Democratic nominee for
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 4: Senate in Florida.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: Angie, welcome to the pod.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 9: I am so excited to be with you today. Hey, pod.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 10: What up, chat? I don't know what the young people
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 10: say nowadays.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know either. We're contemporaries.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 4: I have no idea. There are a lot of people
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 4: who have written Florida off. It's shifted to the right.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: It's the beating heart of MAGA. It's hopeless.
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: What do you say to those people?
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 10: I would say they have not spent much time here
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 10: in the state of Florida because we have been winning
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 10: things for years here. You know, we just need people
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 10: to just invest in our state. And folks are fed
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 10: up right now as well. There are Republicans that are
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 10: actually leaning into our campaign, our people power campaign. Folks
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 10: are ready to work to build a new vision for
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 10: this country where everyone has the opportunity to be healthy,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 10: prosperous and safe. And I'm excited about it.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: So in a response to J.D.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 4: Vance, we had talked about this on the show on Monday.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: You spoke movingly about growing up in a home with
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: domestic violence, how it drives you to take on bullies.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 4: But when you posted the clip, you said something that
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 4: I thought was really surprising. You said that you carried
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: a lot of anger because of that violence and that
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: you didn't realize how much it impacted you until this campaign.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 4: And I'm just curious what you recognized and what you
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 4: feel like you learned from about something so personal in
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: your past in this political arena?
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 9: Yeah, for sure.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 10: So I carried a lot of shame and embarrassment because,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 10: you know, my mom didn't want anyone to know, and
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 10: so she passed that down to me and my brother.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 10: And I never recognized how I'm always, like— When I
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 10: see people hurting, when I see people are scared or
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 10: being picked on and bullied, I'm always like bucking up
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 10: at them. And it wasn't until I had to really
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 10: share my story about my childhood with like my senior
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 10: advisor because they want to dig deep to see what
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 10: drives you and things like that. And I put that story,
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 10: you know, back in the back of my mind. And
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 10: I just... it came out.
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 9: And I'm like, you know what? It is me.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 10: A lot of people have to deal with bullies growing up. Um,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 10: and it has actually helped other women. They've come to
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 10: and started sharing their story to me. And, um, is
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 10: something that we need to work to stomp out. Oftentimes
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 10: people are afraid to share things when they're the victims
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 10: or the survivors of things. We see it right now with,
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 10: we've seen it with like the Epstein files. We've seen
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 10: it with what happened at Cornell, right? We saw it
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 10: with what happened with a ton of other stories recently.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 10: And it's like, that happened to us, right? Like we didn't,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 10: we didn't make that happen, right? And so we need to,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 10: we need to just take it on and like turn
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 10: it around and talk about how we're surviving from it
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 10: and how we're pushing forward to make things better.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 4: I sometimes think with the people that are at Trump rallies,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: the people that have embraced MAGA, even when it's not
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 4: delivering for them, even when they have experienced hardships, right?
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 4: They're paying for the tariffs. They're paying higher gas prices,
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 4: higher diesel prices. That this idea of not demanding more
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 4: for ourselves, not truly accepting that we didn't deserve the
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 4: pain and sacrifice and loss in our life. I do
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 4: think that's a little bit of what undergirds some of
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 4: the kind of anger that you see on the right
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: as well. And I'm wondering what it's like when you're
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 4: talking to Republicans, even Republicans that might still see themselves
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 4: as being, you know, on their team and pro-Trump about
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 4: what's happening in Florida.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 9: Yeah, so thank you for that question.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 10: I actually had a similar question today just a few
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 10: minutes ago, but it was.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 9: From young people in regards to.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 10: Them not voting and just feeling like nothing would change.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 9: And I tend to tell people that we deserve better.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 10: Like you deserve healthcare that you don't go bankrupt getting because.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 9: Medical debt is the leading cause of bankruptcy.
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 10: You deserve to have fully funded public schools.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 9: You deserve to have groceries you can afford.
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 10: Like you work hard and you should be able to
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 10: afford to live in this country.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 9: And that's not what's happening right now.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 10: And so how I talk to people people on the
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 10: other side, so to speak, is I let them know
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 10: that they are profiting off of us fighting with each other.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 10: They are profiting off of us being divided and distracted
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 10: because that allows them to distract us from the fact
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 10: that they want to privatize Social Security because they want
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 10: to make money off of it.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 8: How.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 10: Why are we allowing Republicans to move us to a
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 10: place where they are privatizing Social Security? There should be
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 10: no profit to be had with our taxpayer dollars that
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 10: should go towards ensuring that our seniors can live their
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 10: final days.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 9: In peace and in good health.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 10: And I let them know that we should not be
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 10: operating with a scarcity mindset.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 9: This is America. This is the land of abundance.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 10: The problem is the folks with the money and the
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 10: abundance are hoarding it at the top.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 9: Like they are trying to.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 10: Keep us down so that they can have more money
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 10: on top of more money on top of more money.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 10: And honestly, I let folks know that they don't have
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 10: to be scared. They don't have to be scared of
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 10: other people that don't look like them. Like this is,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 10: we are a multiracial working class. And honestly, it's honestly
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 10: like kind of a class war at this point right now.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 10: And we have to all come together and let these
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 10: billionaires and corrupt corporations know that we are the workers.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 9: We are working harder than ever and we're struggling together.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 9: just to stay ahead, just to get ahead.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 10: And meanwhile, they're working less and less and less and
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 10: they're privatizing everything so that they can make more money
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 10: or so they can also trade stocks that we don't
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 10: even have enough money to trade in the first place.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 10: And it's like, It doesn't have to be this way, y'all.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 9: Like, it doesn't. We can start electing people who are
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 9: exactly like us.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 10: We can start electing school bus drivers and teachers and
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 10: fast food workers.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 9: And people that work at... telemarketing firms.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 10: Imagine if regular everyday people, farmers, imagine if those.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 9: People were our elected officials. They would actually push.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 10: For policies that would help benefit regular everyday people.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 9: But what we're seeing.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 10: Right now is that the ultra wealthy are the ones
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 10: that are in charge. And of course, they're going to
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 10: pass big BS bills that give them massive amounts of
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 10: tax breaks. Of course, they are okay with working family
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 10: taxes in the form of tariffs, right? Of course, they're
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 10: fine with those things, but we can change this all
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 10: around if we elect regular, hardworking, everyday people and folks
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 10: who've retired, because I've been called out on that here
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 10: in the state of Florida, because we have a large retiree.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, what's interesting is Florida has this reputation
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 4: as being the home of senior citizens. But I was
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 4: I went and I was just like looking into it,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 4: like where what states do have these big populations of seniors?
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 4: And yes, Florida is up there, but it's also states
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 4: that are rural in part because they've lost their young
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 4: people because the young people can't afford to live there
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 4: and get jobs there anymore. And part of that is
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 4: obviously what we're seeing with California. Trump and tariffs and
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: the hardships he's visited on some of his biggest supporters.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 4: But to that point, I saw that you pointed out
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 4: that Donald Trump and Ashley Moody are in ways more
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 4: aligned with communism than you, right? They're attacking you all
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 4: the time as a socialist, but there are ways in
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 4: which they are kind of leading.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: So what do you mean by that?
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 9: Okay. Going after political opponents, right?
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 10: Calling for the assassination of sitting Congress members, right? Stealing
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 10: taxpayer dollars to... push propaganda. And we saw that with
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 10: Ashley Moody, who stole $ 10 million from sick kids that
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 10: was supposed to go towards their Medicaid funding. And then
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 10: we are seeing that now with this Trump TV network
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 10: that Donald Trump is using, and also the taxpayer money
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 10: that they're using for paid ads. Also, the fact that
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 10: if If they talk so much trash about Cuba and Venezuela,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 10: you know, rightfully so, but they're deporting people back there?
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 9: Like, that is crazy to me.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 10: And then, on top of that, to go into Venezuela
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 10: and to be okay with taking control.
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 9: Of their oil.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 10: And helping decide who sells what, knowing good and well
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 10: his son and his family and friends have vested interests
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 10: in selling this oil and then cozying up to the
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 10: leader of North Korea and cozying up to the leader
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 10: of Russia.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 9: And it's like, sir, like, is that what we're doing?
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 10: And then also they're saying that I want to take
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 10: over people's businesses. When Donald Trump And this administration has
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 10: taken stocks, like they have taken percentages of several companies
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 10: here in this country. I'm a small business owner. I
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 10: don't want nobody coming to take my business. Absolutely not.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: And so.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 10: It is it is so mind boggling that they are
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 10: trying to paint me as the person that they are.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 9: And I'm pushing back against that.
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 10: And then they say, you know, I want to abolish
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 10: prisons and I want to defund the police.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 9: Like, why would I want to do that when I
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 9: want Donald Trump and Ashley Moody locked up in jail?
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: Like, come on.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 9: Like they did that.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 10: Some things that they deserve to be locked up for.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 9: And so, absolutely not. I believe we need.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 10: To abolish for-profit prisons because why are we privatizing prisons
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 10: and allowing folks to capitalize and exploit people's labor?
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 9: Like, that doesn't... That is.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: And.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 10: this is the biggest shakedown ever of a president, right?
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 10: Like this is the largest grift ever. Every, every which
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 10: way he can monetize something as he's president, he is doing,
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 10: he is actively doing.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 4: Now that does not stop Vance from attacking you as
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 4: a socialist. What set up this, this controversy was his
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 4: saying that you don't belong in America. Uh, And you've
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 4: responded by saying that you, as you just said, you
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 4: own a business. You've called yourself a capitalist who believes
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 4: we need some strong regulations. But you did join DSA
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 4: in June of this year in a state where socialist
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 4: as a label carries a lot of historical baggage, to
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 4: say the least. And I'm curious, like, put aside what
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 4: Ashley Moody is saying, what J.D. Vance is saying. Is
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 4: this coming up for you on the ground with voters?
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 4: Because whatever the, you know, the sort of the political
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 4: expedient attack. There are people who legitimately say, look, I don't,
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 4: I come from a place where socialism is for me,
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 4: my family being persecuted, my being impoverished and having to flee.
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  Speaker 4: I worry about voting for someone who's affiliated with socialism.
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  Speaker 2: What do you say to people that- You.
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  Speaker 10: Know, and so what I would tell people is they
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  Speaker 10: should look at my track record and what I've done
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  Speaker 10: and stood for. And that all I want for them
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  Speaker 10: is to be able to decide what they want their
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  Speaker 10: communities to look like and what they want their economies
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 10: to look like. The people that keep pushing this division
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  Speaker 10: and this rhetoric that I'm trying to come do all
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 10: of this horrible stuff are like, you know, my opponents.
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  Speaker 10: And the media, when I go out and talk to
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  Speaker 10: people in Little Haiti, like who are voting for me
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  Speaker 10: and or in Little Havana who are voting for me,
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 10: what they say and in Venezuelan communities, what they say
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 10: is they want someone who is who's going to give
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 10: them quality health care. They want someone who's going to
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  Speaker 10: lower their costs. They want someone that is going to
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 10: fight against bullies and dictators.
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  Speaker 9: And that's what I tell folks. I literally was arrested
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 9: because of.
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  Speaker 10: like a dictator-type action against me, right?
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  Speaker 9: And I let them know that I don't want anyone
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  Speaker 9: to have to worry about that type of stuff.
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  Speaker 10: I don't believe in allowing any type of oppressive government
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  Speaker 10: to be in power, right? And so I let them
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  Speaker 10: know to check my track record and that I have
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  Speaker 10: their back.
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  Speaker 9: And that has been resonating.
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  Speaker 10: We've been able to cut through the noise and the
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 10: disinformation because of it.
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  Speaker 4: As part of your housing policy, you called for a
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  Speaker 4: national rent freeze and an eviction moratorium. This is a big,
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 4: complicated country with very different housing issues in different regions.
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  Speaker 4: Just honestly, that doesn't totally make sense to me, right?
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  Speaker 4: In COVID, we're in an emergency.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But places should be able to decide how they're going
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  Speaker 4: to build and expand housing. Yeah.
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  Speaker 10: And so I want to be clear, like that is
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  Speaker 10: this is this is temporary.
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  Speaker 9: It is temporary.
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  Speaker 10: And I think I need to add to the website
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  Speaker 10: and put like temporary. Because I am a I'm a
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  Speaker 10: landlord myself. My first home that I was able to
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 10: purchase as a single mom. I'm actually renting it out
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 10: to some friends and I don't overcharge them.
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  Speaker 9: A lot more.
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  Speaker 10: It's actually like 200 more than what my mortgage is.
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  Speaker 10: And that is in case something breaks down and that
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  Speaker 10: type of stuff. But what I know is that I
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 10: opened up Facebook today and a guy said.
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  Speaker 9: Oh my God, my rent went up $ 350. I have
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  Speaker 9: to sign and they want to charge me $ 350 more.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 9: property insurance then go up $ 350 more, right?
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 10: And so what we're seeing right now.
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  Speaker 1: Are a lot of these.
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  Speaker 10: Private equity firms, these for-profit companies that own these homes
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 10: and that are renting these apartments out, they're just doing
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 10: things simply because they can and people don't have anywhere
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 10: else to go.
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  Speaker 9: And so what I am saying.
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  Speaker 10: Right now is while we have these working family taxes
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  Speaker 10: on us in the form of tariffs, while we are
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 10: still in this thoughtless war that is causing gas and
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 10: diesel prices to go up and then causing everything else
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 10: to go up, there needs to be a freeze on
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 10: rent for like a year or two, right? So that
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 10: people can not be stressed out about not having a
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 10: place to stay. And it's kind of similar to what
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 10: happened during COVID, right? And so we like, yo, people
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 10: are hurting. People are like dying on the streets. People
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 10: are having to cramp themselves up because they can no
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 10: longer afford rent. Or people are taking food from their
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 10: children's mouths because they got to keep rent.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 9: They got to keep a roof over their heads. And
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 9: so what I'm saying is like, let's stop raising the
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 9: rent for a second, right? so that people can get
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  Speaker 9: caught up.
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  Speaker 10: I also believe that we need to lower the interest
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 10: rates on credit cards for a little bit as well.
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  Speaker 9: So people have, like I saw on threads.
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  Speaker 10: The other day, a woman was like, y'all tell me
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 10: how I can pay for my rent on my credit card.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 10: Why do people have to pay for their rent on
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 10: their credit cards right now? Something is broken. Something is wrong.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 10: But then you see people in these companies and these
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 10: billionaires making record profits, number one, because they're not paying
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 10: people what they owe them.
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  Speaker 9: They're not paying people living wages.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 10: And then on top of that, the people aren't getting
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 10: paid living wages.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 9: And everything else is going up.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 10: And so I am ready to start looking out for
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 10: just everyday things people here in this country and not
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 10: just looking out for these.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 9: Ultra wealthy folks. Like folks are hurt.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 10: Like they are at their breaking point.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 9: Like they are. And I am concerned.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 10: I know someone, a guy lost his job a few
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 10: months ago. And then I read that he like killed
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 10: his kids and killed his wife and healed himself.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 9: Like people are.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 10: Taking their lives because they feel so hopeless and like
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 10: nothing is going to change. And I talked to my
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 10: friend a few weeks ago and she's like, she doesn't
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 10: even want to get out of bed because the doom,
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 10: the cloud that is hanging over her about if she
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 10: loses her job because she sees people getting laid off.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 10: If she loses her job, this is her home. She
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 10: just bought this home five years ago. She doesn't know
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 10: what she's going to do. The job market is not
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 10: looking too good. And so like, those are the things
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 10: that folks are.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 9: stressed out about.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 10: And so that's why I say, you know, a temporary
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 10: rent freeze and moratorium on evictions.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: So Moody won't debate you.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 9: Nope.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 4: She says it's because she doesn't want to give you
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 4: a platform because you're such a, you know, you're just,
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 4: it's just, people can't handle it, I guess. She doesn't,
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 4: it seemed that if she thought you were such a, dangerous,
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 4: had so many dangerous ideas she'd want to argue with
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 4: you about them.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: But no, she doesn't.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 4: How are you going to get in front of enough
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 4: people in the homestretch here if you don't get an
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 4: opportunity to talk to her on that stage?
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  Speaker 10: I mean, we're going out and talking to as many
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 10: folks as we can. This is a people's power grassroots
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 10: distributive program where there's surrogates out spreading our message. Our
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 10: social media is popping. We're interviewing wherever we go. We're
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 10: trying to hit all 67 counties before the general election.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 10: And we're just going to continue to get amplified.
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 9: Thank you for having me on your show.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: It's good. It's been great to talk to you.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 4: It's also like, you know, there's been a lot of like, oh,
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 4: how did how did Angie Nixon.
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 2: Pull off this upset in the primary?
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 4: And then you see, you talk to you or you
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 4: watch your video, just you're so charismatic.
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: It's really intoxicating. It's really, it's very intense. I'm just myself.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 10: I'm just a Southern girl with a Southern drawl.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 4: I've talked to a lot of boring politicians. It's part,
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 4: you know, gladly. So you're from Jacksonville. You spent most
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 4: of your life there. What's it been like campaigning across
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 4: the whole state? What have you learned about Florida, right?
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 4: Like Florida is a big, strange place.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 9: The more north you go, the more south it is.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 10: The further south you go, the more international it is.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 10: And I would say the more west you go, the
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 10: more rural it is.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 9: And I love my state, man.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 10: It's like 20 states in one. And also adding a
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 10: few extra countries as well. And we have beautiful beaches
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 10: and parks. We have beautiful people. We have such good culture.
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 9: And, like, good swag.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 10: And some of the, like, we still have Southern hospitality here. And,
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 10: you know, that sweet tea will still get you, might
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 10: send you into a diabetic situation. I better comb on
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 10: real quick, but, you know, like, I just, I love
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 10: my state. Oh, my God, I love my state, which
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 10: is why I'm fighting so hard to be able to
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 10: represent it. I just get so frustrated because it's folks
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 10: like Ashley Moody who are in power right now, unelected
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 10: Ashley Moody.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 8: And.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 10: My office, my state, because I'm still a state lawmaker,
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 10: we have to field so many calls and emails from
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 10: people who have reached out to her or Rick Scott,
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 10: and they haven't received a phone call back. And it's like,
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 10: that is not what we need to represent us. We
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 10: need someone who's going to be accessible, ethical, and.
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 9: Someone that they can trust.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 10: And I pride myself on acting as though I work
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 10: for people, like actually working for people. I don't believe
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 10: that the constituents work for me.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 9: And that is how Ashley Moody operates.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 10: And I work for folks and whatever it is that
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 10: they want me to do, if it's within reason and
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 10: if it makes sense as far as like it helps
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 10: improve the quality of life for people, I am going
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 10: to work to do it.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 4: Well, Angie Nixon, thank you so much for being here. uh, uh,
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 4: good luck, uh, in this next month. And I'll just
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 4: say my parents live in Boynton Beach, Florida. And, uh,
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 4: I would say, uh, the, the outcomes there are either, uh,
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 4: canceling each other's votes or, or potentially, potentially getting you
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 4: two votes.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 2: I will work on that. I will work on that.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: Please, please do.
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  Speaker 9: And I would, I would say, you know, cause I
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 9: am from Florida, uh, I do love those Jaguars.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 10: I'm looking forward to us going to the Super Bowl,
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 10: but I still also love the Tampa Bay.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 9: Bucs and the Miami Dolphins.
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 10: And then also, folks, follow me on social media, Angie
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 10: for Florida. Go to my website, AngieNixon.com. But thank you
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 10: so much for.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 9: Having me on. Hey to your parents down there. I
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 9: want to be your U.S.
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  Speaker 1: Senator.
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  Speaker 9: And so I would really love and appreciate it if
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 9: you voted for me.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: Angie Nixon, thank you so much.
• 1:32:51
  Speaker 9: Thank you so much.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: That's our show for today. Thanks to Angie Nixon for
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: coming on. I'll be back in the feed on Sunday
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: with our old friend, David Axelrod. Talk to everybody then.
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  Speaker 2: Bye, everyone.
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