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Why shouldn't women vote Women explain | HBR Talk 322 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: But the senator, while indoctrinateated, could not explain his toxicity.
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  Speaker 2: You should not listen to men's lights advocates if you
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  Speaker 2: want to know what they have to say.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I said, I maybe seemed all my life you.
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  Speaker 4: Remove.
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  Speaker 5: It's like a furry torpedo to the jugular.
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  Speaker 3: This is Honey Badger radio radio with.
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  Speaker 1: But the senator, while inductrinated, could not explain his toxicity.
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  Speaker 2: You should not listen to man's exam because if you
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  Speaker 2: want to know that, they have to say, let's.
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  Speaker 6: Hello, an, Welcome to HBr Talk three twenty two. Why
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  Speaker 6: shouldn't women vote? Women? Explain? I'm Hannah Wallen here with
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  Speaker 6: the personification of perceptivity, Mike Stevenson and nonsense annihilator Lauren Brooks.
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  Speaker 6: And we are getting to the rat killing because that's
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  Speaker 6: just one more thing badgers do. But before we get
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  Speaker 6: into before we get into that, we gotta do what
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  Speaker 6: we gotta do. But before we get into what we
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  Speaker 6: gotta do, just gonna point out ahead of time that
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  Speaker 6: we're gonna be jumping around between some pages. So the
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  Speaker 6: piece of writing that is included in the report that
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  Speaker 6: we've been reading is behind a paywall in the New
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  Speaker 6: York Times. It's it's it was published originally in the
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  Speaker 6: New York Times. It is public domain, and I can
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  Speaker 6: get it from Amazon. I can get it on Kindle,
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  Speaker 6: but I don't have Kindle app on this computer at
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  Speaker 6: this time. And it's seven pages long, and I don't
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  Speaker 6: think we need all seven pages, so I'm not even
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  Speaker 6: to worry about it. There's a few things we'll talk
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  Speaker 6: about from from what she had to say, and then
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  Speaker 6: we'll we'll get on with the rest of the report,
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  Speaker 6: because the gist of this is pretty pretty I think,
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  Speaker 6: pretty easy to figure out. But in the meantime, let
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  Speaker 6: me make sure. Okay, it just looked for a minute
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  Speaker 6: on obs like my sound wasn't working, but it was
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  Speaker 6: just frozen. I guess, I don't know. If there is
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  Speaker 6: a problem, I'll see it in the chat, right, Just
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  Speaker 6: make something up, says Manoka Manaka ninety two. Actually, he
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  Speaker 6: probably could make something up and it would be better
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  Speaker 6: than the logic for women voting, but there you go,
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  Speaker 6: and and that logic was kind of made up anyway.
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  Speaker 6: But let's get into the thing we gotta do before
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  Speaker 6: we do what we gotta do, if that makes sense.
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  Speaker 6: oatmeal boxes and string. So there you go. But to
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  Speaker 6: the rat killing. So the things that have been discussed
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  Speaker 6: to date in regard to women against women's suffrage. We
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  Speaker 6: pointed out that for the majority of the time that
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  Speaker 6: the Suffragettes were pushing for women's suffrage, anti suffragettes outnumbered them.
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  Speaker 6: We've pointed out that women had a great deal of
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  Speaker 6: power in society before women had voting rights. And this
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  Speaker 6: was pretty i should say, before women had universally achieved
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  Speaker 6: voting rights, because women had voting rights in some states,
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  Speaker 6: and women in the UK had voting rights prior to
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  Speaker 6: the the changes in I believe eighteen thirty. Actually even
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  Speaker 6: after the changes in eighteen thirty, it was really prior
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  Speaker 6: to I want to say there was another reform after that,
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  Speaker 6: but yeah, even women in the UK had voting rights
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  Speaker 6: when the Suffragettes said women's voting rights were taken away.
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  Speaker 6: So mostly women didn't, mostly men didn't. You had to
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  Speaker 6: have a certain level of property or taxpayer status. But yeah,
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  Speaker 6: they did have some. And you also saw achievements like
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  Speaker 6: the Women's Christian Temperance movement getting alcohol outlawed, not just
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  Speaker 6: by law but by US constitution. They actually got a
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  Speaker 6: constitutional amendment passed, and they used the allegation that men
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  Speaker 6: come home drunk and beat their wives to get it done.
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  Speaker 6: So clearly women were not without power and they were
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  Speaker 6: not without influence, right, So that's part of the argument
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  Speaker 6: actually that Missus Arthur M. Dodge makes. And I'll just
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  Speaker 6: to show you really quick here this is the article,
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  Speaker 6: the front page of the article that we're looking at,
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  Speaker 6: Case against Votes for Women, Missus Arthur M. Dodge gives
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  Speaker 6: reasons why the ballot should not be granted to women,
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  Speaker 6: And just a reminder, these women were asking for a
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  Speaker 6: level of legal power in a time where they exercised
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  Speaker 6: legal power in their husband's name already, so they wanted
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  Speaker 6: to keep that, but they also wanted to exercise legal
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  Speaker 6: power in their own names in addition to that.
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  Speaker 3: And I have to wonder, I have to wonder how
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  Speaker 3: many of them, who have been since lost to history,
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  Speaker 3: how many of them were saying, yet, not only should
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  Speaker 3: women not have the vote, men should not have the vote.
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  Speaker 3: It's hard to imagine from this stage and advanced whatever,
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  Speaker 3: this is the idea that no one should have the vote,
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  Speaker 3: because democracy is the thing we should be saving, right,
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  Speaker 3: Democracy is the be all and end all, right, because
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  Speaker 3: if you don't have democracy, you don't have anything. And
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  Speaker 3: this has become so drilled into us that we're like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: of course, there's no other alternative. Throughout history, people have
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  Speaker 3: always had democracy. Democracy has always presided over the technological
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  Speaker 3: advances of the past. Of course, being sarcastic, it has not.
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  Speaker 6: How many people don't realize that.
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  Speaker 3: Though reasonably recent invention, it's an invention of the post
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  Speaker 3: Christian West.
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  Speaker 6: Well, going to in the English common law governed states
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  Speaker 6: in the countries, because we invented democracy. But that's that's
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  Speaker 6: a different, whole different story it was.
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  Speaker 3: It was a whole different process. Yeah, And if if
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  Speaker 3: we want to go back to the process that the
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  Speaker 3: Greeks did in terms of philosopher kings, then we can
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  Speaker 3: maybe go back to that, but it doesn't resemble what
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  Speaker 3: we have nowadays. It's it's any Tom, Dick and Harry
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  Speaker 3: who can be hood winked by the government who has
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  Speaker 3: a say in these things.
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  Speaker 6: And then governed by Tom's Harry Dick.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, and we've discovered this whole different word world ever
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  Speaker 3: since Trump went down the escalator. Because Trump was already rich,
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  Speaker 3: this was very unusual for a politician. Most most politicians
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  Speaker 3: are lawyers who went into it because they weren't satisfied
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  Speaker 3: with how much money they were making as lawyers, so
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  Speaker 3: they went into politics so that they could earn even
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  Speaker 3: more money by stealing it from the people of the
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  Speaker 3: country they're supposed to be serving. And it's the idea
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  Speaker 3: that someone like Trump could be president is horrifying to
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  Speaker 3: these people because Trump was already rich. He doesn't need
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  Speaker 3: to be bought off. He's he's he's not interested in
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  Speaker 3: someone paying him a million dollars to make this particular decision,
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  Speaker 3: because it's like, I've already got a billion dollars talking
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  Speaker 3: about get here far. And yeah, this is largely why
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  Speaker 3: these these fucking communists, I can't stand the idea of
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  Speaker 3: someone who's already independently wealthy leading a country. And that
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  Speaker 3: sort of goes to show you, well, it sort of
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  Speaker 3: goes to remind you that for the longest time, countries
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  Speaker 3: were ruled by kings who didn't who were not financially incentiveied. Well,
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  Speaker 3: they were, but to some degree, to to the to
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  Speaker 3: the most important degree, they were taught from an early
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  Speaker 3: age how to how to run, how to rule over
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  Speaker 3: a people.
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  Speaker 7: And and yeah.
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  Speaker 3: On the surface, that sounds tyrannical, but it was certainly
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  Speaker 3: no less tyrannical than democratic government is nowadays. As we've
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  Speaker 3: as we've only seen in the past few decades, it
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  Speaker 3: was going all right for a while, just like monarchy
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  Speaker 3: was going all right for a while, and I mean
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  Speaker 3: a while, which is like empires. Well, empires generally go
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  Speaker 3: all right for a while before they collapse. In much
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  Speaker 3: to say, we're seeing our empire collapse. In fact, there
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  Speaker 3: seems to be a middle ground between tribal warfare and
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  Speaker 3: the tyranny of empires, and it seems to be monarchy.
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  Speaker 3: It seems to be you just put one very posh
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  Speaker 3: guy who's been trained his whole life in charge of
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  Speaker 3: the country. He's rich enough that he can't be bought
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  Speaker 3: off by lobbies of any and his only duty is
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  Speaker 3: to his people. And yes, sometimes you'll get a tyrannical king.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes you'll get a king John. Sometimes you'll get an
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  Speaker 3: absolute bastard. And sometimes you'll get a benign king who
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  Speaker 3: actually because he doesn't he has no need for any
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  Speaker 3: more money than he has, he'll just be like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: my job is to is to improve and maintain the
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  Speaker 3: the lives and happiness of of of of my stoop
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  Speaker 3: checks for one of a better word, But that's it's
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  Speaker 3: the people with whom I'm charged with with with protecting
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  Speaker 3: and maintaining. And that's what When it's someone who's already rich,
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  Speaker 3: you'll you'll you'll find you're you're more likely to find
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  Speaker 3: himself in a better position than someone who's only in
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  Speaker 3: that position in order to get rich. And that is
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  Speaker 3: the difference between democracy and monarchy. And I'm not saying
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  Speaker 3: monarchy is the answer to everything either, but we've found
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  Speaker 3: ourselves at this point in history where we're being told
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  Speaker 3: that democracy is the only possible way and it's not monarchy. Monarchy.
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  Speaker 3: Monarch has worked quite well for quite a long time.
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  Speaker 3: And you may say, yeah, but society has changed, But
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  Speaker 3: maybe society has changed because the ruling party has has
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  Speaker 3: has has has changed, and yeah, sorry, go on, as
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  Speaker 3: I say.
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  Speaker 6: There's there's some there's some to that, and then there's
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  Speaker 6: some there's some ick to it too, And and the
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  Speaker 6: thing that makes it ick is the history of humanity
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  Speaker 6: following people that are good leaders and then assuming that
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  Speaker 6: people who sound like them or came from them are
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  Speaker 6: also going to be good leaders. So you end up
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  Speaker 6: in a situation where you had a great leader through meritocracy, strength,
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  Speaker 6: the ability basically to get people to follow your lead
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  Speaker 6: because what you're doing is wise and you know, benevolent, beneficial, right, whatever.
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  Speaker 6: And and then you know, slowly, over time, you have
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  Speaker 6: this decay that takes place where uh, more and more
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  Speaker 6: of the people who follow, whether it's sons and daughters,
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  Speaker 6: whether it's people on the same type of platform, the
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  Speaker 6: same political party, whatever, end up not really being the same,
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  Speaker 6: and then being more than a little different, and then
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  Speaker 6: being extremely different, and and finally you know, it's it's
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  Speaker 6: why the hell are we supporting these people? Are tolerating
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  Speaker 6: these people? And human history is a history of following
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  Speaker 6: strong leaders and then following their their children or their disciples,
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  Speaker 6: uh and then getting fed up with the ship that
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  Speaker 6: comes from decay and tearing down the system, and sometimes
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  Speaker 6: tearing down the system looks like a peaceful removal of
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  Speaker 6: weak leaders, but most of the time in human history,
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  Speaker 6: it looks like civil war and the the brutal murder
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  Speaker 6: of said leaders, and humans haven't learned right for for centuries,
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  Speaker 6: leadership hasn't learned because they they end up being instead
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  Speaker 6: of leadership, they end up being authorities. And there's a
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  Speaker 6: huge difference between leadership and authority. You need some level
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  Speaker 6: of authority in order to be a good leader. But
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  Speaker 6: if you think of yourself strictly in terms of authority,
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  Speaker 6: you end up instead of leading, you end up dominating.
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  Speaker 6: And that's what we've had here in the US. It's
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  Speaker 6: just been on fast forward. And the thing that put
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  Speaker 6: it on fast forward is honestly the gimme mentality that
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  Speaker 6: came out of women's suffrage, and we're going to get
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  Speaker 6: into that in this article. I don't think that there's
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  Speaker 6: a good form of government. That doesn't necessarily mean that
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  Speaker 6: there is not a good form of leadership. But there
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  Speaker 6: is no good way for individual citizens to sit back
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  Speaker 6: on their haunches and just trust somebody else to make
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  Speaker 6: all their decisions and be sure that that individual is
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  Speaker 6: going to be benevolent and wise and always exercise their
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  Speaker 6: power in a way that benefits as many of the
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  Speaker 6: people as possible, as much of the time as possible
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  Speaker 6: without harming other people in the process. I just don't
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  Speaker 6: see it. I don't you look at the problems that
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  Speaker 6: we have today that our political discussion exists to address today,
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  Speaker 6: particularly the things the men's rights movement exists to address.
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  Speaker 6: They're pretty much all either caused or exacerbated to the
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  Speaker 6: point where they become a sietal problem instead of something
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  Speaker 6: that happens sometimes to people that shouldn't because of government.
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  Speaker 6: Everything ends up, all these problems end up flowing from
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  Speaker 6: or growing from government. I don't have a way to
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  Speaker 6: let me see if I can. Richard Beer is asking
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  Speaker 6: me to boost my microphone game, so let me. The
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  Speaker 6: most I can do is turn it all the way
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  Speaker 6: up in obs. I don't think it's turned down on
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  Speaker 6: my I have a little thing here. No, it's not
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  Speaker 6: taking down on the microphone.
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  Speaker 5: Did you just do the pawn shop? The best I
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  Speaker 5: can do, mean yes.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, The best I can do is this tiny little
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  Speaker 6: bit this there it goes. See when I do this,
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  Speaker 6: every time I get get to ranting about something, I
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  Speaker 6: see spikes in there where I'll be going along, and
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  Speaker 6: it's it's I'm he's in the green or the yellow
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  Speaker 6: in the graphic that shows how loud we are and
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  Speaker 6: everything right, except every so often it spikes into the
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  Speaker 6: red for a second, and I'm thinking that's a plosive.
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  Speaker 6: Closives are your p's, r t's, you know, sometimes your
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  Speaker 6: s's are really bad. You guys are all lucky. I
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  Speaker 6: work really hard not to lisp. I have, I have
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  Speaker 6: a I have some very good reasons to have a
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  Speaker 6: battle list.
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  Speaker 3: Cloves, crecative, it's creative, fricative, ps and bees.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I do feel rather frecative over it.
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  Speaker 3: So it just sounds like a dirty word, doesn't it.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, it does. It's kind of like, you know, botulism
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  Speaker 6: and shitsu. This is how I taught my kids to
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  Speaker 6: cuss when they were a little Don't don't say bitch,
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  Speaker 6: say botulism.
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  Speaker 3: It's not like nooks and crannies. Every time I hear that,
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  Speaker 3: I think it sounds like two different racial.
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  Speaker 6: Well, then in my family, we were always joking about
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  Speaker 6: the crooks and nannies. So there you go. Oh we
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  Speaker 6: having fun.
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  Speaker 5: Yet that's what I came here for.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, so let me make sure I guess we're all
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  Speaker 6: off in terms of sound. There and I can mess
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  Speaker 6: I can't change individually in OBS. I can't change Mike
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  Speaker 6: and Lauren sound there on my desktop, so it's all
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  Speaker 6: one thing. But I did change it in Discord, so
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  Speaker 6: that's again, this is the best I can do, and
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  Speaker 6: I'm doing. I don't even have an educate education in this.
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  Speaker 6: This is not something that I've ever done any training in.
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  Speaker 6: And the one person that I'm really close to that
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  Speaker 6: that does have education in this personally I'm not close
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  Speaker 6: to physically right now, he's one thousand miles away. So
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  Speaker 6: there's not really much I can fix here. So sorry guys,
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  Speaker 6: but hopefully it doesn't sound too bad. Well, yeah, you're
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  Speaker 6: not the one who's too loud. No, you should go
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  Speaker 6: right back to where you were.
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  Speaker 7: Everything is we were both too loud and you were
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  Speaker 7: too quiet.
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  Speaker 6: Nope? I had see for some reason, when we go
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  Speaker 6: or other chats that we bounce around in. Different chats
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  Speaker 6: show different people's microphones at different volumes for me, so
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  Speaker 6: turn Lauren way down, or I have to turn mic
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  Speaker 6: to the people to serve in government for a short
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: period of time, and when you're done, you return to
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: your life at home. That is why he created the
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: tradition of only serve two terms. And yeah, that tradition
• 39:02
  Speaker 6: was honored for a long time, and then we got
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: a president who decided to just stay and died in office,
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: and then two term limits were enacted because we didn't
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: want that to happen again. So and honestly, I think
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: that should be a government wide thing, not just term
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: limits for people who run for public office, but even
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: stricter term limits for the bureaucracy. There shouldn't really be
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: that much of a bureaucracy. We have way more than
• 39:47
  Speaker 6: we need in terms of departments and agencies in our government.
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: There's quite a bit of stuff that is being done
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: by the federal government that should be left to the
• 39:57
  Speaker 6: states and to the counties, even to local communities, to
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: the municipalities. But you know, if there's if there's gonna
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: be a bureaucracy of any kind of Washington, you should
• 40:12
  Speaker 6: not be able to make a career out of serving
• 40:16
  Speaker 6: in it. It should again be, as Washington believed, a
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: service that you do for a short period of time
• 40:25
  Speaker 6: and when you're done, you take that experience back to
• 40:29
  Speaker 6: the public sector and you work for an actual private
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: business and that's where you earn your living. And in fact,
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: working in government really ought to be. It ought to
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: be something that people can can use as a jumping
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: off point. Say, I have this many years of experience
• 40:54
  Speaker 6: working in public service, and I learned these things from
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: working in public service. And it's the maximum you're allowed,
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: you know, four or maybe eight years, depending on what
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: type of service it is, aside from military service, which
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: I don't see a problem with people making a career
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: out of being ready to defend their country. But yeah,
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: this idea that you go into, say the Health and
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: Human Services Department, and you work in collecting child support
• 41:30
  Speaker 6: or handing out welfare, or administrating or administering Medicare or
• 41:39
  Speaker 6: Medicaid for thirty years and you collect retirement from the
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: government and you have a union and all of that. No,
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: that should not happen. But unfortunately, not only is it happening,
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: but when we the people try to elect someone who
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: wants to enact reforms in the federal bureaucracy, the bureaucracy
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: reacts to that like an immune system reacting to a virus.
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: Pretty scary because they're all unelected. We basically have the
• 42:29
  Speaker 6: blob running our country. But again, tonight we're gonna look
• 42:38
  Speaker 6: at why and uh and what that has to do
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: with women voting so everything.
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: I'm just so disturbed by our our state right now,
• 42:56
  Speaker 5: the state of our government in you know, the political situation.
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: I'm just I I don't know. I'm not gonna go
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: into it. I think everybody who understands where we are
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: coming from and agree with us don't really want to
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: see this thing take office because that would just be
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: an atrocity. But there's no need for me to go
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: into it.
• 43:24
  Speaker 6: We can go on with the show. Yeah, this is
• 43:27
  Speaker 6: this is the the this is HBr talk, not the
• 43:32
  Speaker 6: Honey Badger horror show. Yes, all right, So I'm not
• 43:41
  Speaker 6: gonna start at the at the start of this. I'm
• 43:45
  Speaker 6: gonna point out instead some of the things that that
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: she had to say about this, and this is, by
• 43:54
  Speaker 6: the way, let me see if I can do do
• 43:58
  Speaker 6: you do here? Where's are? Yeah? I believe, yeah, it
• 44:05
  Speaker 6: does say who she is. And I want to make
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: sure I point that out because of course it doesn't.
• 44:13
  Speaker 6: Let me make it bigger that way. There we go,
• 44:18
  Speaker 6: President National Association Opposed to Women's Suffrage. Remember this was
• 44:23
  Speaker 6: an association that had many many members. This was actually
• 44:30
  Speaker 6: pretty big. This was much bigger in fact, than the
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: Suffragettes at that time. So when you get back to
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: the original page here, So what she had to say,
• 44:47
  Speaker 6: she said women suffragists are proposing a doubled electorate, and
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: she's thinking of it in terms of most people getting
• 44:56
  Speaker 6: married and raising families in society. She's probably not thinking
• 45:02
  Speaker 6: about the fact that many many men throughout history have
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: not gotten married and raised children. Many many men throughout
• 45:11
  Speaker 6: history have not found anyone to marry, or if they
• 45:17
  Speaker 6: did marry and have children, they couldn't be sure that
• 45:20
  Speaker 6: their children were their children. All right, So there is
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: that issue as well. But one of these days, and
• 45:31
  Speaker 6: I'm going to end up having to do a show
• 45:34
  Speaker 6: about the exploitation of in cells throughout history by governments,
• 45:43
  Speaker 6: because that is a thing, and I don't think very
• 45:45
  Speaker 6: many people have considered it. I think the reason that
• 45:48
  Speaker 6: modern governments are so scared of in cells right now
• 45:53
  Speaker 6: in Western nations is because, all of a sudden, because
• 45:58
  Speaker 6: they are networking, and they have a name for their situation,
• 46:03
  Speaker 6: and they are protesting against their situation. Uh, and and
• 46:08
  Speaker 6: they do recognize the role of women's social attitudes in
• 46:12
  Speaker 6: their situation, they're not so easily exploitable anymore.
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: Well, listen, I think what's happening is now colloquially, in
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: more common parlance, in cel is being interchanged with men.
• 46:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that is happening. That is happening. So it.
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: Sorry, I lost what I was gonna say, But that's
• 46:42
  Speaker 5: that's what's happening.
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: It's just another term that they can pay any man with.
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: And uh, you know, screw it just means all men,
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: now all men.
• 46:53
  Speaker 6: If you want to turn the term that people are
• 46:56
  Speaker 6: using to describe themselves into a pejorative, you use it
• 47:01
  Speaker 6: to shame men. That's how that works. But the thing
• 47:06
  Speaker 6: about the thing about in cels is if you look
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: back throughout history, right when governments have sought men to
• 47:16
  Speaker 6: use as cannon fodder in wars, in petty wars against
• 47:20
  Speaker 6: each other, in wars over territory and wars over resources
• 47:24
  Speaker 6: and so on. They go for the men who do
• 47:27
  Speaker 6: not have children, right, They go for the men who
• 47:30
  Speaker 6: are not supporting families, who don't have businesses at home,
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: who aren't wealthy. And usually those are all the same group.
• 47:39
  Speaker 6: Not wealthy, not married, not raising children. Usually those are
• 47:44
  Speaker 6: all the same group. And that's men who are involuntarily
• 47:48
  Speaker 6: celibate because of either their appearance or their lack of income,
• 47:54
  Speaker 6: or combination thereof. Maybe they are socially awkward, maybe they
• 48:01
  Speaker 6: are socially inept. And I mean, I've known guys that
• 48:05
  Speaker 6: are just completely clueless socially and very very intelligent, you know,
• 48:13
  Speaker 6: great people who would give you the shirt off their
• 48:17
  Speaker 6: back if they thought that you needed it, without you
• 48:20
  Speaker 6: even asking, But they wouldn't know how to offer it
• 48:24
  Speaker 6: in a way that women wouldn't judge them for doing.
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, in a way that wouldn't give women the ick.
• 48:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Well, here's the here's the secret about giving women
• 48:37
  Speaker 6: the ick. Okay, when it comes to social interaction, Nine
• 48:46
  Speaker 6: times out of ten, when a woman gets the ick,
• 48:48
  Speaker 6: she gave it to herself. Mm hmm.
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: I would say, well, yes, yes, I won't say undred
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: percent of the time.
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: But there are people who have boundary issues, and there
• 49:03
  Speaker 6: are people who are malicious. They exist in the world.
• 49:06
  Speaker 6: I've run into quite a few of them. But most
• 49:11
  Speaker 6: of the time, when women are just like, I don't
• 49:15
  Speaker 6: want anything to do with this person, and then they
• 49:18
  Speaker 6: play victim of proximity and engagement with somebody that they're
• 49:24
  Speaker 6: not interested in, they have given themselves the ick by
• 49:29
  Speaker 6: deciding that unattractive equals malicious and unattractive equals having boundary issues.
• 49:38
  Speaker 6: How dare you exist in front of me when you
• 49:41
  Speaker 6: look like that, or when you don't know how to
• 49:44
  Speaker 6: use the right words to say the things that you're
• 49:46
  Speaker 6: trying to say to make them interesting to me? And
• 49:51
  Speaker 6: he's not fair, but it's pretty typical in regard to
• 49:57
  Speaker 6: the way women are pretty entitled when it comes to
• 50:00
  Speaker 6: social interaction to have that social interaction be dictated by
• 50:08
  Speaker 6: women's comfort level and women's interests. Right, that's a huge
• 50:14
  Speaker 6: entitlement that women exhibit, and they don't budge on that.
• 50:21
  Speaker 6: And if you're a woman who doesn't go along with it,
• 50:25
  Speaker 6: you get eviscerated by other women. And I'm not just
• 50:30
  Speaker 6: talking about online. I mean I've seen that happen in
• 50:32
  Speaker 6: the workplace. I've been on the receiving end of it
• 50:37
  Speaker 6: quite a lot in my life because I don't have
• 50:41
  Speaker 6: the same comfort zone that most women do, so and
• 50:46
  Speaker 6: I don't always know when I'm boring other women, So
• 50:53
  Speaker 6: I end up getting getting eviscerated quite a lot for that.
• 50:57
  Speaker 6: And it's usually not women women's judgment doing it. It's
• 51:03
  Speaker 6: usually things like you women going to this authority or
• 51:07
  Speaker 6: that authority and finding some excuse, you know, to say
• 51:13
  Speaker 6: that they're uncomfortable or unsafe or unhappy with with me
• 51:16
  Speaker 6: not acting like a normal woman, and I'm in the
• 51:20
  Speaker 6: wrong for it. So like I'm this is this is
• 51:23
  Speaker 6: how I'm able to see this. I'm not like superwoman
• 51:26
  Speaker 6: who has this special angelic sympathy for guys. I got.
• 51:31
  Speaker 6: I got a tiny little taste of what y'all experience,
• 51:35
  Speaker 6: and I didn't like it, and and realize that if
• 51:38
  Speaker 6: that's what it's like for me, it must be absolute
• 51:42
  Speaker 6: hell when it happens to you guys. So uh Noba
• 51:47
  Speaker 6: fan gave us a dollar and said, I've seen the
• 51:49
  Speaker 6: term inceel used for a man with a wife and
• 51:52
  Speaker 6: two kids. That's as some people think not getting laid
• 51:55
  Speaker 6: enough in a marriage qualifies men as an insult. Well, yeah,
• 51:59
  Speaker 6: I mean cell stands for celibate and in stands for involuntary.
• 52:04
  Speaker 6: So if a guy is married and he's in a
• 52:09
  Speaker 6: sexless marriage, which does happen, and it's he's in a
• 52:14
  Speaker 6: sexless marriage not because of any health conditions that he
• 52:19
  Speaker 6: has that make him unable to perform, or his wife
• 52:22
  Speaker 6: hasn't make her unable to perform, but that she's just
• 52:25
  Speaker 6: not engaging with him anymore. That is involuntary celibacy, right,
• 52:35
  Speaker 6: and and there is you know there there's a rather
• 52:39
  Speaker 6: large phenomenon of that. And older you get, the more
• 52:43
  Speaker 6: women just lose interest in sex, or at least they
• 52:47
  Speaker 6: lose interest for some reason in the men that they
• 52:50
  Speaker 6: promise to love most in the world until death do
• 52:53
  Speaker 6: them part. I don't. I don't get it.
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: The equivalent appears to be a crazy cath lady. Yeah,
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: which is something we got into three Tuesday shows ago
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: when we when we got into the j Defant's thing
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: about how we're being ruled by crazy hat ladies or
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: whatever it is. And yeah, it's it's this ability to
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: what's the verb two to to sort of cast your
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: loneliness elsewhere, to distract everyone from the real problem of
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: of of men and women getting separated. I mean, they
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: were all they were always separated by sexual biology, but
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: they were always kept together by sexual psychology. And and
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: now we're dealing with a rather large movement that is
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: trying to try trying to use trying to use sexual
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: psychology as a wedge between the the the central pins
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: of the nuclear family. And I don't want to call
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: it the nuclear family, but you know what I mean
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: that there was just that was that was just an
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: attempt to pin, into modern parlance, the best possible way
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: for a civilization to advance itself, for families.
• 54:47
  Speaker 6: To be.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: Together. That's that sounds so obvious from from from such
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: an obvious perspective. But yeah, here we are in this
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: world where we have to remind people the finally, uh
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: is a good thing.
• 55:12
  Speaker 6: So before we get into the actual article, I'm gonna
• 55:16
  Speaker 6: point out a difference, a huge, huge difference between in
• 55:20
  Speaker 6: cells and crazy cat ladies. Right, the thing about animal
• 55:25
  Speaker 6: hoarding and the crazy cat lady is an animal hoarder,
• 55:30
  Speaker 6: you know, everybody always always says, well, if you have
• 55:33
  Speaker 6: more than four cats, well there's a jumping off point, right.
• 55:36
  Speaker 6: A woman gets to about four cats and stops. Usually
• 55:39
  Speaker 6: you don't see women with five cats very often or
• 55:45
  Speaker 6: six cats very often. You see, you know, some women
• 55:47
  Speaker 6: with one or two maybe three. I lived with my
• 55:53
  Speaker 6: parents for a few years and I had two cats
• 55:58
  Speaker 6: and my mom had a cat. So we have had
• 56:00
  Speaker 6: three cats in the house and that was too many.
• 56:03
  Speaker 6: And that was a big house because they had my
• 56:07
  Speaker 6: grandparents had moved in and we were taking care of them.
• 56:12
  Speaker 6: And originally my mom's cat was my grandmother's cat, and
• 56:19
  Speaker 6: so the house we built an in law apartment onto
• 56:24
  Speaker 6: that house for my grandparents to live in. And it
• 56:28
  Speaker 6: was a two story house when my parents purchased it
• 56:31
  Speaker 6: during the housing market crash in the seventies, So it
• 56:37
  Speaker 6: was it was a big house. And if it had
• 56:41
  Speaker 6: been in a better part of town economically speaking, because
• 56:46
  Speaker 6: there was no better part of town in terms of
• 56:49
  Speaker 6: the people that lived around us. It was. It was
• 56:53
  Speaker 6: all around a good town. But it would have been
• 56:58
  Speaker 6: a quarter of a million dollar house at some points
• 57:01
  Speaker 6: during my life, but it wasn't because houses in our
• 57:06
  Speaker 6: neighborhood didn't sell for that much, so and it's in
• 57:10
  Speaker 6: any case, that was still too many cats for that
• 57:12
  Speaker 6: side of the house. But I've seen women like you
• 57:15
  Speaker 6: stop at four cats, and then then there's women with
• 57:19
  Speaker 6: you know, ten fifteen twenty. I heard from a woman
• 57:27
  Speaker 6: once that had dozens of cats, like the lady that
• 57:34
  Speaker 6: that I you know, is in the meme with the
• 57:37
  Speaker 6: heavy metal music and the cats jumping over each other
• 57:40
  Speaker 6: to get the food, and she considered herself a cat rescuer,
• 57:44
  Speaker 6: but they were all strays, you know, and it's just like, well,
• 57:48
  Speaker 6: you're not really rescuing them. And then we kind of
• 57:51
  Speaker 6: do that here in that we trap them and we
• 57:57
  Speaker 6: take them to Siska and this spaes and neuters and
• 58:03
  Speaker 6: gives them their raby shots so that they don't spread
• 58:06
  Speaker 6: rabies throughout the community and so that we don't end
• 58:09
  Speaker 6: up with dozens of kittens every six weeks or so,
• 58:13
  Speaker 6: however long it takes for cats to have kittens. Been
• 58:16
  Speaker 6: a while since I've had a female cat that that
• 58:20
  Speaker 6: could have kittens. And because it, cats will overrun an
• 58:26
  Speaker 6: urban neighborhood pretty quickly if they're not kept under control.
• 58:32
  Speaker 6: So it's more about preserving the neighborhood for the people
• 58:35
  Speaker 6: than it is. I mean, it's you can think of
• 58:39
  Speaker 6: it as a kindness to the cats and that you're
• 58:42
  Speaker 6: not you're keeping their population from outgrowing their resources. But eh,
• 58:49
  Speaker 6: but when you see pet hoarding, you're seeing a person
• 58:53
  Speaker 6: with boundary issues because they are using the animals as
• 58:58
  Speaker 6: emotional kleenex right, emotional toilet paper, emotional puke buckets. And
• 59:08
  Speaker 6: that's that's there, substituting animals for doing things about the
• 59:16
  Speaker 6: issues in their lives that that make them upset or
• 59:21
  Speaker 6: make their lives difficult, make them unhappy, And that's an issue.
• 59:28
  Speaker 6: And that's when we talk about the crazy cat lady.
• 59:34
  Speaker 6: We are talking about someone who has, you know, some
• 59:42
  Speaker 6: sort of mental health condition, usually some sort of emotional baggage, right,
• 59:51
  Speaker 6: and is making the animals do the emotional labor by
• 59:56
  Speaker 6: being dependent. And and that that's you don't really see
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 6: that necessarily. Like in culs, they have pretty caustic humor, right.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 6: They will get they will get really sarcastic, they will
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 6: get really sardonic. They will say things that the general
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 6: public is like, you can't be you can't say that.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 6: They'll joke about suicide they'll joke about all kinds of
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 6: subjects that people find uncomfortable, and they will lay bare
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 6: truths about women that everybody is uncomfortable knowing that really
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 6: should be confronted, but we don't because everybody is uncomfortable knowing.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 6: And it's a major difference. In Cels get accused of
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 6: having boundary issues because they are sad and lonely because
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 6: of the way women treat them, and they articulate the
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 6: fact that they feel wrongfully judged over things that are
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 6: really shallow as criteria for relationships, and they're not wrong.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 6: They are wrongfully judged in a lot of ways. Whereas
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 6: crazy cat ladies like the single crazy cat ladies, because
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 6: I have also met crazy cat ladies in relationships with men,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 6: you know that the man is miserable because seventeen cats
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 6: come and come and go from the house and it stinks,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 6: and it really stinks. But having that degree of boundary
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 6: issues with regard to your treatment of animals and your
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 6: exploitation of them, as like I said, motional kleenex, emotional
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 6: toilet paper, emotional puke buckets. That translates over to people too,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 6: and you see that in the way that they vote
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 6: in the way that they exploit government programs, in the
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 6: way that they engage with the people in their neighborhood.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 6: If you see a woman as the president of an hoa,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 6: she's probably got more than four cats, But she might
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 6: say that you can't have big dogs, right, and Francis Maximus, Yeah,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 6: it's a lot of cat pooh from seventeen cats. But
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 6: cats bury their pooh. That's not the problem. Cat pee
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 6: has a lot of ammonia in it. It is horribly
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 6: foul smelling, and a cat hoarder's house. The smell a
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 6: cat hoarder's house permeates the neighborhood. If you have a
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 6: sensitivity at least to ammonia, it's.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: Like your drug of choice. You can't smell it. But
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 3: the people who are not subjected to it all the time,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: they can absolutely smell it.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 6: Even caffeine. Caffeine makes you stink. People are getting paradoid now,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 6: right because but you can smell the difference between a
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 6: coffee drinker and somebody who doesn't drink anything caffeinated. You
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 6: can smell the difference between a mountain dew drinker and
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 6: a coffee drinker, especially when they pee. Because sugar also
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 6: makes you stink. But in any case, that's more of
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 6: a getting into the weeds thing. The main thing is,
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 6: you know, that difference between women who have difficulty making
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 6: relationships with the opposite sex and the people are around them,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 6: versus men who have difficulty making relationships. Men who have
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 6: difficulty making relationships have a tendency to go fuck off
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 6: and be by themselves. Women who have difficulty making relationships
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 6: put their difficulty out for everybody to have to deal
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 6: with it, and they sort of vomit their difficulty all
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 6: over the neighborhood. And you know, they lay their difficulty,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 6: layer their difficulty on top of their pets, their family members,
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 6: their friends, their neighbors, like it's it's Women in general
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 6: have boundary issues. So this is just an extension of that,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 6: I guess, but that attaches to this in one particular way.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 6: So she points out women suffragists are proposing a doubled
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 6: electorate to support which and increase in the state budget
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 6: is necessary and for people to understand that they have
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 6: to pay, you know, the government has to pay for
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 6: a location. And of course, back in the day when
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 6: voting was all done on paper, there were materials to buy.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 6: People had to either volunteer for or be paid to
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 6: do that work. And you might volunteer and get paid
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 6: just not very much. And of course then there's also
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 6: the effect it has on the community. When you know
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 6: you have pulling taking place, that area is going to
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 6: be extremely busy for a day. But in any case,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 6: so there's there's an increase that has that has to
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 6: be funded. Right, you have twice as many people showing
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 6: up with the polls, you need more workers, you need
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 6: more materials. Therefore, the burden of proof rests solely on
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 6: the suffragists to show how the double electorate can or
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 6: has become a better instrument of government for the people.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 6: In this connection, it is interesting to note that not
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 6: a single law, not one improvement, is or can be
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 6: claimed as the exclusive result of the votes of women.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 6: The male suffrage states lead. This is something that history
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 6: has forgotten by the way she's mentioning the male suffrage states,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 6: because there were states that from the beginning allowed women
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 6: to vote, and as new states came into the Union,
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 6: there were several of them that came in with women
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 6: men's suffrage just written into their state constitutions. So women
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 6: voted in Wyoming is one of those that is sort
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 6: of historically talked about, is it? From the moment Wyoming
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 6: became a territory, women were clamoring for voting rights, and
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 6: before Wyoming became a state, women got their voting rights there,
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 6: And so Wyoming entered statehood with women's suffrage intact. But yeah, so,
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 6: she says, the male suffrage states lead and mother's pensions
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 6: in child labor, limitation of hours for working women, maternity acts,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 6: supervision of dairies, pure food weights, in extension of educational facilities,
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 6: improved sanitation, et cetera. The Great Eastern States have worked
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 6: out their social problems without women's suffrage to a higher
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 6: standard than that reached by the states where women vote.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 6: Singing or reread that line. Eastern States have worked out
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 6: their social problems without women's suffrage to a higher standard
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 6: than that reached by the states where women vote. So
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 6: not only did women voters not improve the standards for women,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 6: Not only did women voters not represent the interests of women,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 6: the apparent interests of women, their complaints that they were
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 6: all making, No, they were a detriment, or at least
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 6: they appeared to have been. On the other hand, a
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 6: great increase in taxation, a multiplicity of useless laws, gee,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 6: women voting for useless laws, women getting caught up in
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 6: uh useless rules, lawyering, rule mongering, imagine my shock. And
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 6: a practical doubling of public office holding. Women growing the
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 6: government without any compensating gain for the citizens. Is the
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 6: accompli accompaniment of votes for women. So what's her argument there?
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 6: When you think about this, Her argument is, women voting
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 6: did not get women anything. Women voting screwed things up
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 6: for the whole com unity. Women voting created frivolous offices,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 6: frivolous public offices. The bureaucracy that I was complaining about earlier,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 6: the thing that I actually have been land basted for
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 6: posting a meme about this on x explaining that the
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 6: moment that women got voting rights, universal voting rights, they
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 6: started growing a bureaucracy that is pretty much eating their
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 6: children's inheritance right, our kids and our grandkids. Their future
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 6: labor is already mortgaged by our government. And that that
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 6: came from women's voting rights, That came from women's voting
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 6: habits the thing that the evil in cel that that
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 6: our government is so terrified of that feminists hate so much,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 6: lovingly refers to as Gibbs, and lovingly, of course, in
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 6: case you couldn't tell sarcasm, I can imagine how annoying
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 6: it must be for them, because you know women won't
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 6: won't give them the time of day, won't have anything
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 6: to do with them, won't have any compassion for them,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 6: but they sure want every penny they can squeeze out
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 6: of them. She asks, can one tax represent both? It
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 6: is a question in politics parallel to a question in
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 6: business as to whether one partner can represent a firm
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 6: as an isolated and individual and absolute unit of humanity
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 6: with no allegiance or attachment to any other unit. Women
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 6: would seem to require a vote if voting were the
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 6: only means of adequately representing her in government. But the
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 6: unit of society is not the individual, but the family.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 6: Neither man nor woman is complete, but the complemental characteristics
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 6: of both make up the whole into the smallest safe
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 6: division of society, the family, a partnership for the propagation
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 6: of the race and the happiness of men, women and children.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 6: No one would contend that the salesman does not represent
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 6: the firm, or that the factory foreman does not represent
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 6: the firm. Thousands of partnerships exist where one man sells
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 6: what the other makes, neither can succeed so well in
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 6: the other's place, and each fully represents the business as
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 6: to the representative fields of production and distribution. So what
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 6: she's talking about they is, I guess, staying in your lane,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 6: knowing what your role is comprised of and what actions
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 6: you need to take in order to fulfill it, and
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 6: what actions are going to be beneficial to the unit
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 6: that you have created by taking on that role, whether
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 6: it's father, husband, mother, wife, business partner, a family unit
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 6: is a business unit, and so on. As an actual
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 6: fact readily ascertained by government statistics, the partnership of parentage,
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 6: the union of one man and one woman in marriage,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 6: is the most successful enterprise in the business of civilization.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 6: With all its fruits and alleged failures. Less than one
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 6: percent of the persons who enter into this partnership dissolve
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 6: it by divorce. So that's what the statistic was. Before
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 6: h two things happened. One women got the right to vote,
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 6: and two we we got the type of divorce law
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 6: that is affectionately called no fault divorce, but no fault
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 6: divorce isn't real. There is no such thing as no
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 6: fault divorce. Right, What we had before, what we're called
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 6: what we call no fault divorce, was when you abandon
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 6: a partnership, the partnership of marriage. If you don't have
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 6: a good reason because the other person is at fault
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 6: by having committed adultery or by having abused you in
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 6: some way, then you're at fault because you're abandoning a
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 6: perfectly good partnership, a partnership that has not gone bad. Right,
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 6: And as as a result of your fault, you know,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 6: you are not able to leave that marriage and take
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 6: the children and take half of the finances or more
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 6: with you. You're not entitled to marital property, you're not
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 6: entitled to bankrupt your partner because you're leaving, right. That's
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 6: that's how fault divorce works. You know, if your partner
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 6: does something to make it insufferable for you to stay,
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 6: to make the environment dangerous to you, or to betray
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 6: you and betray the partnership and the family, it's a
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 6: different story. Well, then then the partner is fault and
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 6: you can kick the partner out and keep everything right,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 6: including the children. But now that we have what's called
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 6: no fault divorce. Our law treats all divorce like his
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 6: fault divorce. She cheats and leaves his fault, he has
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 6: to pay. She abuses him and he has to leave
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 6: his fault. He has to pay. Right she gets bored
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 6: and leaves his fault, he has to pay. So there's
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 6: no such thing as no fault divorce. It's bullshit. And
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 6: we went from less than one percent when this this
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 6: was written to not only do we have did we
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 6: at some At one point we had a fifty percent
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 6: divorce rate, pretty close to fifty percent. Now we have
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 6: many Many people more than are getting married now are
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 6: just not their remaining single or they are they're not
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 6: making their commitment to each other public by getting married,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 6: and that's marriage. The whole point of marriage was you're
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 6: not just making your promise when you get married. You're
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 6: not just making your promise to your partner. You're also
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 6: promising your community, and if you are religious, your church,
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 6: your religious institution. And not everybody calls their religious institution
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 6: a church, but most people, more people in relationships today
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 6: than ever, are not making their promise public. And I
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 6: mean there's solid reasons for that because his fault. Divorce
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 6: pretty much makes making your commitment public very dangerous for men.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 6: So and feminism has taught women that marriage is a trap,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 6: when in fact, marriage is a shield and a safe
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 6: haven for women. It should be a safe haven for men,
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 6: but women have taken that away. But yeah, so less
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 6: the one percent. That's a hell of a low divorce
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 6: rate compared to now. On the other hand, it is
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 6: so popular that over sixty percent of all males and
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 6: seventy percent of all females over fifteen in the United
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 6: States are married, but only seven percent of the human
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 6: race in America rounds out its three score and ten
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 6: years without embarking in this most vital business, the pursuit
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 6: of happiness by men and women. So only seven percent
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 6: of Americans were hitting forty without being married at that
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 6: point in time, only seven percent. I don't know if
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 6: everything she's saying there is accurate, but I will say this,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 6: it is quite interesting. It's quite interesting that this was
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 6: published in a publication that was a major publication at
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 6: a time when you know it, people relied on print news.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 6: There were no whether, there wasn't television, there was an internet.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 6: People didn't communicate over great distances cheaply and easily. You
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 6: you could send telegrams, but you didn't. You paid. I
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 6: think per word in a telegram might even have been
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 6: per letter, and so that would be expensive. So you
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 6: got your news from the New York Times, You got
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 6: your news from your local newspaper, all right, there was
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 6: there was none of this alternative media publications. It was
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 6: expensive to do that. You either had to shell out
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 6: a lot for a lot of paper and type it
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 6: up yourself or own a printing press. There's gossip, but
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 6: it's not the same. So so yeah, that's quite interesting.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 6: And and this level of change right in a century
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 6: after women got voting rights. And the one sentence here
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 6: at the bottom, and uh, this is there's more to
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 6: this article, but this is all that's in this paper.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 6: Feminism is the theory of individualism, an unnatural assumption of sex.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 3: A right.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 6: Feminism is the theory of individualism. Feminism set separates women
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 6: from men. It's it's like breaking apart the yin and
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 6: the yang.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 5: But how how is that individualism? Though you're just saying
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 5: that we're a group of people that don't identify as
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 5: that group of people, it's not individualism.
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 6: They're not they're not in terms of rugged individualism, no, yeah,
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 6: but it is isolationism exactly.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 5: That's the word I was looking for exactly.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 6: And isolating women from men is probably the worst disservice
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 6: feminism ever did not so much in terms of you know,
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 6: men and women can't act as individuals, but the amount, degree, scope, level, depths, breadth,
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 6: every measurement you can think of of what men have
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 6: done throughout history for women is so astronomical that an
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 6: ordinary person couldn't measure and understand it. Where we are
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 6: today in terms of security, safety, survivability, nothing. We have
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 6: comforts that our ancestors couldn't even comprehend. We do things
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 6: easily and without even thinking about them, Like we zone
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 6: out in the middle of doing things that our ancestors
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 6: couldn't even comprehend. And I cook something, I read a
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 6: recipe and it tells me what temperature to use. Our
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 6: ancestors didn't have that. That's such a simple little thing. Oh, such,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 6: your oven for three hundred and fifty degrees for this,
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 6: But for this, you're going to set it at four
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 6: hundred degrees, or for this, you're going to set it
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 6: four hundred and twenty five degrees. You didn't have that.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 6: You had you had fire, You cooked with fire, right,
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 6: And that's just one thing, right, Having indoor plumbing, having
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 6: a transportation system, Having a community where housing and businesses
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 6: are are separate because somebody designed how things were going
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 6: to be built and where things were going to be built.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 6: That it was planned and not just randomly, you know,
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 6: like this is here and that's there. Men did that.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 6: Having buildings that don't collapse every time the wind blows
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 6: too hard. Men did that. Having buildings that won't even
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 6: collapse when the ground shakes like hell, when the ocean
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 6: comes in and washes everything else away, and the building
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 6: is still asked. Men did that. Having food so readily
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 6: available that there are women who get all heated and
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 6: place want ads about how people shouldn't hunt, they should
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 6: go to the grocery store and buy meat there so
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 6: that nothing had to be killed for it, because they
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 6: don't realize that that is still dead animals, that animal flesh. Right,
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 6: Women are that comfortable, comfortable enough to be that ignorant
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 6: because men made things that easy.
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: And people talk about the cuisine of various countries like that,
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 3: like that represents the stereotype of those countries. But like
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: you were just saying, people talk about the English like
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 3: they don't know how to cook food. But the English
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 3: have been hanging around for centuries, just like the French,
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: just like the Italians, just like the Spanish, and they've
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: been they've been discovering recipes. They haven't been writing them down.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, I guess some of them have, but most
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 3: recipes are not written down. They've passed down orally from
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 3: generation to generation. And the reason history doesn't remember all
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: of those amazing English dishes is because England was the
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 3: first country to industrialize, and as they industrialized, these people dispersed.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 3: The English dispersed across the country, largely to America and
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: largely too to other places. And so if they ever
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: did write their right down their recipes, it was it
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: was once they got to the to these other places.
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 3: This is this is why this myth persists that the
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: British make crap food. They don't. The British brought their
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 3: food to America. And yes, all right, yeah, fair enough,
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 3: there's a lot to be said about American cuisine. That's well,
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 3: they got a lot of it from Scotland, to be honest,
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 3: deep frying everything and just loading cheese on top of everything. Yeah,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 3: that's that's the Scottish cuisine. That's that's that's that's why
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 3: you got that. And that's why I say British because
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: it's not just.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 7: English we are.
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: We are a country of countries.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 6: To be fair. American food is British and Scottish, Irish, Scandinavian, Spanish, Mexican, German, Russian, everything, Italian, Chinese.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 6: American food is everything, and we have a habit of
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 6: modifying and mixing what people brought here in terms of
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 6: their traditions, and they're let's try these things together. Let's
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 6: try let's try taking this Mexican dish and we're gonna
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 6: American eye it by doing it in a way that
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 6: people from Ireland might do, or people from Italy might do,
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 6: as opposed to people from Mexico Mexico. And then you
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 6: end up with new iterations and incarnations of different types
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 6: of food. And that's how things like text mechs get created. Well,
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 6: it's it's not exactly the same as what you would
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 6: get if you went to Mexico and someone's mom cooked
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 6: for you. It's different. Some of them are really great,
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 6: some of them are really localized. You couldn't pay me
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 6: to eat boiled peanuts. For instance. I didn't like them,
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 6: but they're sold on just about every street corner in
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 6: the South and people love them. Apparently, I can't develop
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 6: a taste for it for some reason. They don't taste
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 6: right because I'm used to them roasted right. But but yeah,
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 6: it's there's been a lot of change that has taken place,
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 6: just specifically due to all of that immigration and mixing
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 6: and stirring and everything. But when it boils down to it,
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 6: to use a good cooking term, it all boils down
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 6: to the fact that all of that innovation and all
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 6: of that change and all of that development occurred as
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 6: a result of men having the guts to explore the world.
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 6: Because women will just get their asses comfortable someplace and
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 6: stay there forever, and even if it becomes uncomfortable, they'll
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 6: be afraid to go someplace else, and so they won't
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 6: unless the men assure them we can handle this, we
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 6: can handle what you're afraid of. Let's get out of here,
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 6: and then they'll go.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 3: It's the difference between hunting and gathering. You gather what
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 3: you already know you are able to gather. You hunt
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 3: whatever you are opportunistically able to hunt. This is why
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 3: agriculture it didn't happen until many thousands of years into
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 3: human existence. Uh, people figured out I say people, I
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 3: mean men figured out.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 5: How to.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 3: How to get the largest possible calorific return from the
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 3: flora and fauna of the world, and then they figured
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 3: out agriculture, and sort of women told them this is
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 3: good that you have done this. You need to do
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 3: this more, and then went, okay, we'll do this more.
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 3: Can we carry on hunting and gathering? And yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: Karen doing that as well. We appreciate the odd pig
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 3: here and there, and and yeah, we're talking scales of
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 3: tens of thousands of years here that men have been
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 3: leading the culinary revolutions, starting with hunting pigs and then
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 3: eventually leading towards the agricultural revolution. And there's an awful
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 3: lot of people who like to claim that the agricultural
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 3: revolution was because of the divine influence of women or
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 3: being here going, you should cultivate because cultivation is good.
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  Speaker 3: Not with animals that that would be cruelty against animals,
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: but just plants, because plants are not alive. Oh wait,
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 3: they are alive, but that doesn't matter. They don't suffer
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 3: in the same way animals do. So you need to
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 3: keep killing plants because they don't have faces that make
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 3: me feel sad when they die. And this is Yeah,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 3: this has been going.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 6: On for a while now, Oh, what's funny a.
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 3: Virtue signaling of of you should kill plants because even
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 3: though they're alive, they they don't they don't make me
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 3: sad when we kill them. So you should kill all
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 3: the plants, but never kill any of the animals, because
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 3: I feel sad when you kill animals. I don't feel
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 3: sad when you kill plants. But they're both alive. Yeah,
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 3: but it doesn't matter, It doesn't matter. What matters is
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 3: my emotions, what we have. We have to kill something
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 3: in order to get food to stay alive. It's the
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 3: same with every species devour to survive. So it is
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 3: so it's always been we we I know there's a
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: lot of Jaianists and a lot of weird ass fucking
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 3: Buddhists who like to think they can survive without ever
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 3: killing another organism. But you can't. You literally can't. The
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 3: the only the only things you can eat are other organisms.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 3: And yeah, there's there's there's a certain direction of of
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 3: of the culture war that's been led by women. It's
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 3: me going, well, I guess we do need to eat,
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: but if we can do it without making me feel
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 3: bad about the faces that we're eating, can we do
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 3: that instead? And men have just gone along with it
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 3: and said, yeah, I guess we'll have to go through
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 3: an ancient revolution and and then a medieval revolution, and
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 3: then there are a naissance revolution so that we can
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 3: get to the point where we can make vegetables taste
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 3: like meat in order to appease this uh this need.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 3: You have two to continue to eat things in order
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 3: to survive. But as long as you don't have to
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 3: eat anything that has a face. And we've been sat
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 3: here this whole time going fucking everything. Everything has a fact.
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 3: Plants just they just they just they just have a
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 3: face on every side of their body. I know it
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 3: doesn't have eyes. I know it's difficult face because because
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 3: it has eyes.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 7: But you need to go you need to.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 3: Get over this obsession you have with uh Pardoilia, I
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 3: believe is the word.
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  Speaker 6: There's some what plants have front and center for us
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 6: to look at, and and what women shove their faces
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 6: into and so on, when they're when they're enjoying flowers,
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 6: and that's genitalia. You are sniffing plant pussy every time
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 6: you do that, or or penis basically like and I
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 6: can make fun of it because I don't do that
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 6: because I'm allergic to that shit. So there you go.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 6: But what's really funny about this is it's not something
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 6: that women did historically. It's something that women did hysterically,
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 6: and it's a relatively modern thing. Meat used to be
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 6: more scarce in terms of availability before people started cultivating
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 6: animals for food, which people did because animals are yummy
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 6: and very nutritious, the type that we cultivate for food. Obviously,
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 6: carnivores aren't all that nutritious, but animals that eat plants
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 6: very nutritious, you know. But yes, it is a manifestation
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 6: of privilege, having feelings of out prey, having sad feelings
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 6: and sympathetic feelings about prey. And I don't mean, like
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 6: a lot of tribal people had feelings of respect for
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 6: the will to live that other life forms have and
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 6: the fight they put up and the fact that they
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 6: are living things, and it's part of a cycle and
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 6: a circle of life. And all that like that, that's
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 6: not what I'm talking about. The whole Namby pamby. Oh
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 6: the poor things, we shouldn't be eating them. We're better
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 6: than that. Like that attitude. You go back a couple
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 6: hundred years when family farming was much more common and
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 6: most people had an animal or two, you know, maybe
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 6: more than a couple hundred now years. But that sympathy.
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 6: Nobody could afford that kind of sympathy for them. Nobody
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 6: could afford to get feelings about, uh, well, you know,
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 6: we're gonna kill this chicken. Like you, you eat or
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 6: you die. And you need meat if you want to
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 6: have the strength to do the labor that you need
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 6: in order to survive, in order to have a house
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 6: that doesn't leak and doesn't let the wind in in wintertime,
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 6: in order to have clothing, in order to have the
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 6: ability to go places and do things, and in order
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 6: to have more food in the wintertime, which you have
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 6: to preserve yourself, because there isn't some you know, company
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 6: freeze drying it. It's it's just up to you, and
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 6: you better do it right or it's gonna make you
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 6: sick as hell and you might die from eating it.
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 6: So Yeah, people didn't. There was no oh it has
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 6: a face. No, you get hungry, you go outside, you
• 1:39:00
  Speaker 6: grab a chicken, you cut its head off, you put
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 6: it in boiling water, you pull its feathers off, you
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 6: gut it, and you ate the guts too quite a bit.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 6: You ate the feet, you ate the heads. People have
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 6: gotten squeamish because of luxury. And that's the downside of
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 6: male innovation is that women had room to become whimps,
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 6: and they did. Albert Nata Retro gave his ten dollars
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 6: Canadian and said women shouldn't vote because they aren't obligated
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 6: to serve. End of story. Want to see world peace?
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 6: Have the UN make it mandatory that any country with
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 6: conscription or a draft make it gender neutral. Well, here's
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 6: the thing about the UN. Nobody has to listen to them, right.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 6: Countries can be part of the you in, or they
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 6: can choose not to. They're not the world government. They
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 6: may think they are, but they're not. But I see
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 6: your point in terms of making a gender neutral, and
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 6: there should be some manner in which women are obligated
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 6: to serve, even if it's not picking up a gun
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 6: and defending your country. There should be some manner in
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 6: which women are obligated to serve because women do vote
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 6: and women do demand gibbs that come at the expense
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 6: of men's taxes, and it's mostly men paying those taxes.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 6: Even now, when the labor force has so many more
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 6: women than it used to, it's still mostly men paying
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 6: those taxes. So we're going to go on to the
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 6: next bit here, and this is still missus Arthur M.
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 6: Dodge again a reminder. Using her husband's name gave her
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 6: more gravitage than using her own, and so she was
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 6: relying on his credibility in the community. Women did things
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 6: in their husband's name, and feminists and anti feminists alike
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 6: did not want to end that. They just wanted the
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 6: rights that women or that men have that that made
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 6: those names so important. Uh. The antisocial contract says being
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 6: obligated to serve should not entitle you to suffrage. Depends
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 6: on the service. If it's coming at the cost of
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 6: your life. If if you can be obligated to go
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 6: and die for something, you should have a say in
• 1:42:10
  Speaker 6: the decision making process. If your property is going to
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 6: be confiscated by the leadership that is getting voted for,
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 6: you should be included in a vote. But that said,
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 6: I don't think anybody should be able to vote to
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 6: send anybody else to war or confiscate anybody else's property.
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 5: So maybe right, especially that especially those who they themselves
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 5: are not subject to the same right standards.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 6: Right, But even if even if you were, like every
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 6: community does this in in America, I don't know if
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 6: this is a worldwide thing or not. But our school systems,
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 6: you have three directions that funding comes from. In terms
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 6: of government funding for local school systems, you have federal funding,
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 6: and then you also have state funding. And then different
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 6: municipalities that have their own school systems will also do
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 6: tax levies where they will put on the ballot. Do
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 6: you vote to have your taxes raised this tiny little
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 6: bit that we can skim off of your paycheck to
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 6: add to the school's budget in our community, just our community,
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 6: not money that goes to the state and then might
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 6: go to some other school instead. And people vote on that.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 6: And obviously more parents are going to vote yes because
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 6: their kids are going to school. Business owners are going
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 6: to vote yes because they want students from that school
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 6: system to have the benefit of locally funded you know,
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 6: education systems that are that with local interests involved, and
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 6: local businesses sometimes will even get involved in the school
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 6: system and offer educational programs and stuff because of that
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 6: as well, because they want they want workers to have
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 6: specific knowledge, and so they will offer to provide that
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 6: specific knowledge so that your kids will graduate from from
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 6: high school and go to work for them. And you know,
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 6: it sounds like a great idea until you realize that
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 6: people who never have children still have to pay those taxes.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 6: People who don't own businesses and aren't going to hire
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 6: anybody still have to pay those taxes. And then it
• 1:45:02
  Speaker 6: starts to sound a little less fair. Why should they
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 6: have to pay those taxes. People will say, well, you're
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 6: benefiting from it because the workers in your community are
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 6: better educated. Oh great, now you've just trained my competition,
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 6: like you made me pay for my competition to get
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 6: training that I can't afford to go out and get
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 6: on my own right. That's what the childless person has
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 6: a right to yell at you. If you say, well, yeah,
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 6: you should be voting for the tax levy for schools.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 6: What kind of asshole doesn't want to fund the local
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 6: school system. Don't you care about children? Well, they're not.
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 6: They're not his children or her children. They're your children.
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 6: Take care of them. Don't expect the community to do
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 6: that for you. That's a kind of a harsh thing
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 6: for parents to have to face. But in a lot
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 6: of ways, we've developed into a society where parents leech
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 6: off of the community instead of creating a gross within
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 6: the community that will serve the community. The family unit
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 6: used to be part of what served the community. Families
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 6: would build the strength of the community. And we now
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 6: have a situation where families expect gibbs from the community,
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 6: and people wonder why our society and our civilization has
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 6: gotten weaker. That's why Albert Adaretro gave us another two
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 6: dollars Canadian and said, oh, I almost forgot ketchup women
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 6: most affected. And on a side note, during the eight
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 6: ease in school lunches, ketchup being added on the side
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 6: for you to use, or being added to your burger
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 6: and so on, that counted as a vegetable a serving
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 6: of vegetables. So it's not necessarily always beneficial to the
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 6: kids when we pay for these publicly funded services with
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 6: the idea that the kids are going to get something
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 6: great out of it. Oh look, lunchtime. Here, have some ketchup.
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 6: Don't you feel revitalized? Great nutrition, just like mom makes
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 6: it home. So missus Dodge says, I don't want to
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 6: seem just courteous towards my sisters in this suffrage movement.
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 6: I believe the greater portion of them are not really
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 6: aware of what they do. I am certain the majority
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 6: of them did not desire to bring about the destruction
• 1:48:10
  Speaker 6: of the home with all that must imply, or of
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 6: loose or no domestic life. I believe many of them
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 6: to be good mothers, and that among their younger workers
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 6: there may be girls who are not infected and who
• 1:48:25
  Speaker 6: will not become infected with the horror of the highest
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 6: function given to women by her God, that of motherhood.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 6: So he's pointed out the best thing a woman can
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 6: become is a mother.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 3: It's still amusing to me that people with American or
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 3: Canadian accents cannot pronounce the difference between horror and horror.
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 3: Now I'm not having to go there's all sorts of
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 3: things in British accents.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 7: No, it doesn't.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 3: It doesn't until you're trying to pass all of these things.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 3: It's it's like the British accent not having a difference
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 3: between law and law as in law and law and and.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 6: But law is.
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 3: Exactly is is horror horror.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 7: And one of those things.
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 3: This is one of those inconsequences of things that amuses
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 3: me whenever Americans or Canadians talk about rors like they're
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 3: not horrors because they pronounced them the same way.
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 6: And you know the difference between a horror and a prostitute,
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 6: right orror?
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 3: That's the difference.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 6: Well, you know, a prostitute provides a service, it's a
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 6: cynical activity, right, But a horror is just disloyal. That's
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 6: why we refer to cheating whoors. But then there is
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 6: a horror there because that is one of the ways
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 6: that disease is spread throughout the community, and some of
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 6: those diseases are particularly nasty.
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 3: But she goes on, is why we call some people
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 3: hauls and some people's sluts and.
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 6: Some people horror shows sluts.
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 3: Sluts are all well and good as long as they
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 3: don't spread diseases. At that point they're.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 6: There, you go, well, or you know, there's there's a
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 6: line between there's a line between horn slut as well,
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 6: and it's disloyalty, right, because people think of a girl
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 6: as slutty if she just likes sex a lot. But
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 6: a slut can get into a relationship and reserve all
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 6: of that for one guy. But horror gets into a
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 6: relationship and cheats. I don't know that I would call
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 6: it ethical necessarily to be a slut, but at.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 3: Least a whole is A is a business woman who
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 3: can who.
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 6: Can prostitute a business?
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 6: Is a business woman?
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 3: There there are there aren't. There aren't many words in
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 3: the English language that can describe the average woman in
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 3: the English speaking world. Are doesn't quite do it. Slut
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 3: doesn't quite do it. It's mobster is the closest I
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 3: can thing.
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 6: Gangster horror. But but yeah, I mean you look to
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 6: be clear, to be clear, her pimp is the business person.
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, she is an independent contract.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 6: Depending on how independent she actually is, because if she
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 6: does have a pimp, she might not be all that independent,
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 6: all right, and she might be dependent on a human
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 6: and a substance or several. But but no, horror just
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 6: does it just just screwze around, right, So there you go.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 7: Independent woman, But I need you to pay my bills.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 6: I'm sorry. Independent woman is an oxymoron. Yeah, I'm just gonna.
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 3: Say that I'm having I'm having to go at fucking beyond.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 3: One of their songs was you Gotta pay my bills,
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 3: Bring to pay my bills, And they had another song
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 3: that was I'm an independent. Yeah, I remember the fun
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 3: that was, but you get you get the general idea.
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 3: I'm an independent women's but I need you to pay
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 3: my bills.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 6: I don't know more than a handful of women that
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 6: I would call even remotely independent. I don't consider myself
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 6: independent because I'm married, and even though my husband and
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 6: I go back and forth annually between who earns more,
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 6: and we tag teams of bills and everything, if we
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 6: if we got divorced or one of us died, the
• 1:53:36
  Speaker 6: other would be in trouble economically. Like we do depend
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 6: on each other, you know, we're a team. So I
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 6: don't consider myself independent. I have an independent attitude about
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 6: a lot of things, but that's not the same as
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 6: being independent. And I don't know very many women, single
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 6: or married, who can truly be called independent. In fact,
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 6: I don't know. Depending on your standing.
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 3: You have to entirely get off the grids and live
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 3: in the forest on your own, and very fucking few
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 3: people can do that anymore. And not and not just
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 3: because they don't have the training, because they've lost the
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 3: training that we used to have many centuries ago.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 6: But because although because they've.
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 7: Been they've been so ground down by this fucking.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 3: Revolutionary communist government that's like, no, no, no, you cannot
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 3: survive by yourself. You need us, You cannot possibly survive
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 3: without us.
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 6: But most men will learn their keep. Most men will
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 6: go out and work, and they will pay their bills.
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 6: They will fix stuff if it breaks in their home.
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 6: They will learn how to do things that that they
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 6: need done that they can't afford to pay someone else
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 6: to do. Women if they want something. And this is
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 6: like I talked about last week or maybe tuesday, not
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 6: too long ago, really, but our way of raising children
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 6: differs very dramatically between boys and girls. Right, Boys kind
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 6: of get the sink or swim treatment, like they get
• 1:55:23
  Speaker 6: thrown into the pond and told how to swim and
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 6: then expected to do it. Whereas girls always have a
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 6: floaty or a person holding them up, and that floating
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 6: came from somebody else. They didn't go out and get
• 1:55:41
  Speaker 6: it themselves, right, and they're not expected to sink or swim.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 6: They're not expected to even learn how to swim, and
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 6: it's always somebody else's fault if they drown. So we
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 6: have this situation where men have a tendency to gain
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 6: access to the resources that they need in order to
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 6: live and be safe and comfortable by going out and
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 6: being proactive and doing what they need to do in
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 6: order to acquire and achieve women and this is partly
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 6: in women's nature because if you think about it, we've
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 6: evolved to be this way over eons. But women, when
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 6: women want resources or need resources to live and be
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 6: safe and comfortable, the method that women most naturally fall
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 6: to is expressing discontent. I don't have what I need. Hey, everybody,
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 6: I don't have what I need? Can you help me?
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 6: And the answer is almost always yes, one way or another,
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 6: and it's usually at men's expense, and men for all
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 6: of human history have put up with that. The antisocial
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 6: contract asks never thought of this before, But is it
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 6: really evolution if it's based on being dependent on others?
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 6: Evolution is just a term for change that ends up
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 6: being written into human nature or the nature of the
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 6: creature that is evolving, And you can consider it like
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 6: de evolution, but I don't think there was ever a
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 6: point in the history of the organism where that was
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 6: normal and natural. I think it's more we have changed
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 6: from the normal and natural state where most animals have
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 6: to go and do. Most animals are not helpless in adulthood,
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 6: like so rats, for instance, which are definitely considered a
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 6: much lower life form than human lizards, bugs are not helpless.
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 6: We consider them much lower life forms. But women, because
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 6: of female privilege, evolved to be helpless. It's not positive evolution.
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 6: You could call it negative evolution, but there's nothing to
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 6: go back to that is like this. There's nothing backwards
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 6: that you can trace to devolve to that. If women
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 6: had evolved to it had changed to become more like
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 6: I don't know, an amiba, single celled something like that,
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 6: then you could call it devolution, but it's it's not
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 6: exactly a good way to describe it in terms of
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 6: this type of change because it's not it's not a reversal,
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 6: because it's not there's not a point in history that
• 1:59:37
  Speaker 6: you could go back to where this was normal and natural.
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 6: We've gone sideways instead of advancing, and we've gone sideways
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 6: in a really nasty direction. If that makes sense. But yeah,
• 2:00:02
  Speaker 6: so her bit about women being mothers. There's a historical
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 6: tendency to deify mothers, right, I see what your problem is,
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 6: the antisocial contract. I see what your problem is. You're
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 6: thinking of evolution as betterment. Evolution isn't necessarily like that
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 6: like adaptive. Yeah, there are evolutionary dead ends where something
• 2:00:41
  Speaker 6: evolves into a non workable adaptation and then ceases to
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 6: survive long enough to reproduce, or ceases to reproduce. But
• 2:00:54
  Speaker 6: it's still evolution from what they were, what their ancestors were,
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 6: to the point where they hit that wall, right, And
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 6: that's what we're in. That's the situation we're in now,
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 6: if that makes sense. But back to the mother thing,
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 6: I would say that we shouldn't think of motherhood that way.
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 6: We should think of motherhood as a huge, huge responsibility.
• 2:01:24
  Speaker 6: Not that women are obligated to become mothers, but that
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 6: if you make a child, if you obligate a child
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  Speaker 6: to be dependent on you, you damn well ought to be
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 6: prepared to fulfill that dependence and do a good job
• 2:01:42
  Speaker 6: as a mother. The image that we have of mothers
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 6: that shouldn't be automatic, something that all mothers get credit
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 6: it for. It should be something that all mothers strive for,
• 2:02:05
  Speaker 6: try to be. This is the ideal. You want to
• 2:02:12
  Speaker 6: to give your kids the best start that they can
• 2:02:15
  Speaker 6: have in life and the best childhood that they can have. Right,
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 6: It doesn't make you the best person. It means you're
• 2:02:28
  Speaker 6: doing your job and you took that job on purpose,
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 6: especially today when you have like forty different types of
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 6: birth control available. You own no, and you own yes
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 6: but not with you, or yes but not right now, Yes,
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 6: but not without this detail. Like that's the I don't know,
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 6: it bugs me when mothers are deified or and jellified
• 2:03:07
  Speaker 6: or whatever. We're human and we've taken on a responsibility
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 6: that we should be obligated to live up to once
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 6: we take it on, and if we don't, it's fair
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 6: to uh to shame us for it. You know, it's
• 2:03:30
  Speaker 6: fair to hold us accountable.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I totally agree. And you know, it makes a
• 2:03:38
  Speaker 5: whole lot of sense when you think about why these
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 5: days meritocracy is demonized. Oh what you mean, I have
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 5: to earn this position, I have to earn this reward,
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 5: I have to earn this anything. I mean, that's that's
• 2:03:57
  Speaker 5: kind of where the fruit from that tree lands.
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 6: If you ask me, yeah, yeah, well, and women have
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 6: this entitlement again, I will, I will say entitlement. And
• 2:04:12
  Speaker 6: when I say entitlement, I'm talking about a sense of entitlement.
• 2:04:15
  Speaker 6: Not that women are owed this, but that women feel
• 2:04:18
  Speaker 6: owed this right to be adored, to be venerated above
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 6: men and above each other, to be treated like they
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 6: can do no wrong, to be treated like they're victims
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 6: of anything that comes along that's challenging, and to be
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 6: treated like everything they do is an accomplishment. You know,
• 2:04:50
  Speaker 6: and women will land based men for jokingly treating taking
• 2:04:57
  Speaker 6: a huge shit like an accomplishment. But what the fuck
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 6: do you think you're doing when you act like you
• 2:05:04
  Speaker 6: are the end all be all of goodness and mercy,
• 2:05:09
  Speaker 6: independence and strength, ingenuity, all of the things that get
• 2:05:18
  Speaker 6: attributed to welfare moms, right, because you just not that
• 2:05:28
  Speaker 6: your kids are shits, but that your actions are shit.
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 6: In that situation, you took a huge shit on your
• 2:05:35
  Speaker 6: family and your society, and you want to be held
• 2:05:40
  Speaker 6: up as a shining example of somebody who can do
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 6: it all. Will you take your food stamps to the
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 6: grocery store and you teach your children that relying on
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 6: government for resources is a lifestyle, an acceptable lifestyle at that,
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 6: And Mangaka ninety two says, even single mother is a misnomer.
• 2:06:12
  Speaker 6: You have to earn the title mother until then you're
• 2:06:15
  Speaker 6: just a single birthing person. I would say single mother
• 2:06:18
  Speaker 6: is a misnomer because unless she has a job that
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 6: pays enough money that she is independently paying her bills
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 6: without relying on any government programs, without relying on any
• 2:06:33
  Speaker 6: child support, she is not single. Nope, not by any
• 2:06:43
  Speaker 6: stretch in the word exactly. So let's see where I
• 2:06:56
  Speaker 6: am completely lost as to where we were.
• 2:07:05
  Speaker 5: It's so tiny because I'm looking at.
• 2:07:08
  Speaker 6: I know it's so bad. Okay, that's why, because I
• 2:07:16
  Speaker 6: had scrolled up too far. So she thinks that motherhood
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 6: is the end all, be all. Well, this is not
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 6: to say the women women just absolutely should be shamed
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 6: for being mothers either. Obviously I'm not going to say that.
• 2:07:34
  Speaker 6: But the whole human race would die if men didn't
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 6: become fathers and women didn't become mothers. There would be
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 6: no children, there would be no next generation. Right, that'd
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 6: be it. But no, that just if you're going to
• 2:07:52
  Speaker 6: take on that responsibility, do the job, and if you're
• 2:07:57
  Speaker 6: not going to do the job, don't take on that responsibility.
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 6: Other people will. But she goes on, I am no
• 2:08:07
  Speaker 6: advocate of retrogression among women. I believe in education, culture,
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 6: full development. In these days, women do the best, which
• 2:08:22
  Speaker 6: in her lies for her own home must get much
• 2:08:27
  Speaker 6: for it from the outside. That's a very awkwardly written
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 6: sentence for modern times. But basically what she's saying there is,
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 6: in the Industrial Age, women could be resource acquirers and
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 6: not just wait for resources to be brought to them,
• 2:08:52
  Speaker 6: and still be good mothers, still be good homemakers because
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 6: in the Industrial Age women women's women's tasks in the
• 2:09:04
  Speaker 6: home were less time consuming and less labor intensive than
• 2:09:08
  Speaker 6: they had been historically.
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 3: They were characteristic of the previous revolution.
• 2:09:14
  Speaker 8: While men were doing the industrial revolution, women were doing
• 2:09:18
  Speaker 8: the agricultural revolution. While men were doing the technological revolution,
• 2:09:23
  Speaker 8: women were doing the industrial revolution, and so on and
• 2:09:28
  Speaker 8: so forth. We have yet to see what the next
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 8: revolution comes about, but I'm sure ted Kaczinski has something
• 2:09:35
  Speaker 8: to say about it from beyond the grave. Probably not that,
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 8: not that I'm supporting anything that says he was a
• 2:09:47
  Speaker 8: bloodite and a dangerous, violent bloodite at that. Progress people,
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 8: It doesn't necessarily mean being woke. It's such a thing
• 2:09:56
  Speaker 8: as progress necessarily involve mutilating children. Progress can mean, you know,
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 8: that thing where we can talk to each other at
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 8: light speed across the planet or visit each other at
• 2:10:14
  Speaker 8: sound speed across the planet.
• 2:10:16
  Speaker 3: That sort of progress. That's the kind of progress that's good.
• 2:10:20
  Speaker 3: The kind of progress that you're taught about universities where
• 2:10:27
  Speaker 3: we can replace white people with black people. That thing
• 2:10:30
  Speaker 3: not so good, not necessarily the way forward.
• 2:10:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we used to be trying to live in harmony
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 6: with each other at one.
• 2:10:39
  Speaker 7: Point, I.
• 2:10:42
  Speaker 6: Perfect harmony, no less, and I just got a song
• 2:10:46
  Speaker 6: stuck in every gen extra's head. But the problem with
• 2:10:55
  Speaker 6: Kazinski wasn't that all of his ideas were bad. The
• 2:10:58
  Speaker 6: problem is that he grew the conclusion that violence was
• 2:11:03
  Speaker 6: was the answer. You can be right, You could be
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 6: wrong about a bunch of things being wrong in society
• 2:11:12
  Speaker 6: and not go straight too. So let's start blowing shit up.
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 2:11:17
  Speaker 7: No, this needs to be pointed out. In many ways.
• 2:11:22
  Speaker 3: We can look back at the past of fifty years
• 2:11:25
  Speaker 3: ago or one hundred years ago and say, yeah, we
• 2:11:28
  Speaker 3: had a better life because we weren't enslaved by these
• 2:11:32
  Speaker 3: plasma screens that we have twenty four hours a day,
• 2:11:38
  Speaker 3: and what have you, And yeah, you can be like, yeah,
• 2:11:41
  Speaker 3: I guess, I guess. Back in the old days, kids
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 3: used to hit each other up by riding bikes to
• 2:11:47
  Speaker 3: each other, to each other's houses and going hey are
• 2:11:51
  Speaker 3: you there? And then and then there would yeah, they
• 2:11:55
  Speaker 3: would join them on their on their joyful bike rides
• 2:11:58
  Speaker 3: across across the fields, in the forests and what have you,
• 2:12:03
  Speaker 3: and you can you can say, yeah, those were better
• 2:12:06
  Speaker 3: days when if anyone got lost in the forest, they
• 2:12:11
  Speaker 3: would have they would just get lost in the forest.
• 2:12:15
  Speaker 3: They wouldn't have a phone with which to call their parents.
• 2:12:19
  Speaker 3: It's like that meme you've probably seen about if Home
• 2:12:22
  Speaker 3: Alone happened in the current decade, Kevin, Kevin would just
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 3: text his mother saying, Hey, I'm still here, and his
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 3: mother go, oh, I'm sorry, Kevin, I'll come back right now.
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 3: No movie. And yet, so, I mean, people talk about
• 2:12:43
  Speaker 3: how things were so much better in the olden days,
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 3: but honestly, if if if you had a time machine
• 2:12:49
  Speaker 3: accident and you landed in the fifties.
• 2:12:53
  Speaker 7: You you'd.
• 2:12:57
  Speaker 3: You'd you'd die, just from the knowledge that you're experiencing
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 3: a much worse world that if you can't disagree with anyone,
• 2:13:08
  Speaker 3: because because you would have to go online and find
• 2:13:14
  Speaker 3: someone four thousand miles away that agrees with you, you wouldn't
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 3: be able to There would be no outlet for you
• 2:13:23
  Speaker 3: to disagree to disagree with them. What you know is
• 2:13:27
  Speaker 3: going to happen in the next fifty seventy years or so, like,
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 3: you'd be cursed with the knowledge of what's going to happen,
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 3: but you wouldn't be able to do anything about it
• 2:13:37
  Speaker 3: because there would be no alternative media. There were just
• 2:13:41
  Speaker 3: there would just be the TV and you would be
• 2:13:44
  Speaker 3: sat there with no Nintendo whatsoever.
• 2:13:48
  Speaker 6: And the worst part is you could write a book
• 2:13:50
  Speaker 6: about it. You could write the whole manuscript out. You could.
• 2:13:53
  Speaker 6: You could make the greatest dystopian novel of all time,
• 2:13:58
  Speaker 6: the story really.
• 2:13:59
  Speaker 7: No one will believe you.
• 2:14:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and publishers would look at you and say, this
• 2:14:03
  Speaker 6: is too unrealistic. We can't, we can't publish this.
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 3: I would never I often imagine because I've been on
• 2:14:09
  Speaker 3: YouTube since two thousand and seven, and I often think,
• 2:14:12
  Speaker 3: what what what what? What if I got on board
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 3: with this seven years earlier than I did in the
• 2:14:20
  Speaker 3: timeline in which we're in what if? What If? As
• 2:14:23
  Speaker 3: soon as I got on YouTube in two thousand and seven,
• 2:14:28
  Speaker 3: I started talking about these men's right issues.
• 2:14:30
  Speaker 7: Nobody would care.
• 2:14:31
  Speaker 3: Nobody would care. It's people like to think they can
• 2:14:34
  Speaker 3: change the cost of history by going back in time
• 2:14:39
  Speaker 3: and being one human being changing the timeline. But in reality, yeah, no,
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 3: one human beings are going to do shit. Unless you
• 2:14:49
  Speaker 3: happen to be the president of the United States or whatever.
• 2:14:52
  Speaker 3: There's there's very little you can do as one person.
• 2:14:57
  Speaker 3: Ideas happen because that idea is time has finally come.
• 2:15:05
  Speaker 6: Now. Let me tell you what would have happened. Your
• 2:15:08
  Speaker 6: channel wouldn't have grown, It would have remained very small,
• 2:15:13
  Speaker 6: and most people wouldn't have even noticed it. This type
• 2:15:20
  Speaker 6: of content, not what we're doing right now, but the
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 6: type of discussion that we're having right now. This has
• 2:15:27
  Speaker 6: existed since the beginning, before the beginning of the World
• 2:15:32
  Speaker 6: Wide Web. This existed on used net. This existed in
• 2:15:38
  Speaker 6: between you know, individual computers, people operating individual computers, dialing
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 6: each other's individual modem numbers and so on, to to
• 2:15:51
  Speaker 6: have conversations back and forth, talking on b boards on
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 6: a on a server, and so on. And there have
• 2:16:02
  Speaker 6: always been two things that have happened in regard to
• 2:16:06
  Speaker 6: this type of discussion. The first one is only a
• 2:16:11
  Speaker 6: small percentage of the people that had access to the
• 2:16:16
  Speaker 6: particular forum that you were talking and took an interest
• 2:16:20
  Speaker 6: in it at all, And among them were always people
• 2:16:25
  Speaker 6: in positions of moderation capability, so they moderate the speech
• 2:16:32
  Speaker 6: in one way or another that would do their best
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 6: to quash it because they didn't like it, and a
• 2:16:41
  Speaker 6: lot of times is because they didn't agree with it.
• 2:16:44
  Speaker 6: Sometimes it's just because they didn't like politics. That's been
• 2:16:49
  Speaker 6: my experience because I've always I've had sort of a
• 2:16:56
  Speaker 6: one toe in discussing political issues since I found out
• 2:17:03
  Speaker 6: in the seventh grade what abortion was and and then
• 2:17:10
  Speaker 6: asked my grandmother what that meant and how it was done,
• 2:17:13
  Speaker 6: and since she was a nurse, she explained it to
• 2:17:16
  Speaker 6: me in very clinical terms, and it just completely plunged
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 6: me into discussing how government operates and what it should
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 6: be used for and how it should be limited in
• 2:17:36
  Speaker 6: what kind of effects it should be allowed to have
• 2:17:38
  Speaker 6: on people, and what kind of effects people should be
• 2:17:41
  Speaker 6: able to use it to have on each other, and
• 2:17:48
  Speaker 6: so there you go, like it's it's you. Just it's
• 2:17:51
  Speaker 6: always been this idea of some great renaissance of political
• 2:17:59
  Speaker 6: discussion where uh, there's the freedom on the internet to
• 2:18:05
  Speaker 6: discuss whatever you want, and everybody discusses politics and listens
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 6: and ideas get hashed out. It's really people are so
• 2:18:16
  Speaker 6: comfortable with just going to the polls, casting their vote
• 2:18:21
  Speaker 6: and expecting a specific result that they don't get into
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 6: these arguments. They don't get into these discussions, and if
• 2:18:30
  Speaker 6: they have to, if they have to work at defending
• 2:18:37
  Speaker 6: their ideas, they give up and walk away from it
• 2:18:42
  Speaker 6: a lot, way too much. And that's something else that
• 2:18:47
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna I'm gonna go back to this and read
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 6: a little more of this because it's really important to
• 2:18:54
  Speaker 6: get this part across, and then we'll continue with with
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 6: more of this next. But so she's talking about here
• 2:19:06
  Speaker 6: in the next sentence, how women's advancement in education and
• 2:19:13
  Speaker 6: business and work and knowledge should be focused on what
• 2:19:20
  Speaker 6: they can bring back to the home. How does it
• 2:19:23
  Speaker 6: benefit my family? If I go get this basically with
• 2:19:26
  Speaker 6: that next sentence, I'm not going to go through and
• 2:19:28
  Speaker 6: read the whole thing. But then then it skips to
• 2:19:32
  Speaker 6: another quote from and I believe this is from the
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 6: piece that we got to read part of earlier. Suffrage
• 2:19:39
  Speaker 6: in the voluntary or forced entrance of women into industrial
• 2:19:42
  Speaker 6: life is the greatest threat against the home, a nation's home.
• 2:19:48
  Speaker 6: In a nation, nation's home lies its strength. It would
• 2:19:51
  Speaker 6: be a world tragedy if if woman, in her blind
• 2:19:55
  Speaker 6: mistaken efforts to uplift herself, should bring ruin on the
• 2:19:59
  Speaker 6: nation and destroy it herself. And what does the vote
• 2:20:05
  Speaker 6: amount to? Women do not need it to accomplish really
• 2:20:09
  Speaker 6: good things. A woman can do anything. If she does
• 2:20:13
  Speaker 6: not vote, she is likely to do little if she
• 2:20:17
  Speaker 6: does only through constructive methods. Has any nation ever thrived?
• 2:20:22
  Speaker 6: We women must be wives and mothers, and as wives
• 2:20:25
  Speaker 6: and mothers, through increasingly good education, must build our children's character.
• 2:20:32
  Speaker 6: We need more, not less, of the mother, daughter and
• 2:20:35
  Speaker 6: mother's son influence. We must continue to build citizens through
• 2:20:40
  Speaker 6: individual efforts. Machinery can never do it. So one of
• 2:20:44
  Speaker 6: the things that she's saying here is because women have
• 2:20:49
  Speaker 6: profound influence on the next generation. A woman's power can't
• 2:20:57
  Speaker 6: be manifested in voting. A woman's power is manifested in
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 6: social influence. And I will expand on that in one way, right,
• 2:21:10
  Speaker 6: And I talked about this before. Women historically, instead of
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  Speaker 6: going to the polls and casting a vote and then
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  Speaker 6: just expecting the politicians they voted into office to do
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  Speaker 6: the things that they promised to do, women engaged in
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  Speaker 6: pressure campaigns, women engaged in public activism. Women would make
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  Speaker 6: things to use for public benefit. Women would raise money.
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  Speaker 6: Women would provide assistance. If there's a disaster, I know
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  Speaker 6: it's the men are the ones going out with boats
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  Speaker 6: and vehicles and back in the day, you know, horses
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  Speaker 6: and dogs and digging people out of rubble, rescuing people
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  Speaker 6: from floods and so on. And when they would bring
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  Speaker 6: people back, you know, to a central place central, I
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  Speaker 6: guess command, you know, a central hub where the injured
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  Speaker 6: and the traumatized from disasters would would be gathered together.
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  Speaker 6: It would be women who would be going through and
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  Speaker 6: feeding them, providing them with dry clothes, comforting them and
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  Speaker 6: treating their wounds. You know, there may be doctors, may
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  Speaker 6: have been men, but it was often women that were
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  Speaker 6: applying the bandages and changing them and holding someone's hand
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  Speaker 6: when they wake up from a nightmare, and providing the
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  Speaker 6: nutrition and so on. Helping people find the rest of
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  Speaker 6: their family in the crowd. All of that and that
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  Speaker 6: division of labor. You know, yes, men were taking the
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  Speaker 6: greatest risk, and then when they would come back, the
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  Speaker 6: women would feed them and take care of them as well,
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  Speaker 6: and they would need somebody to do that, and that
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  Speaker 6: somebody could not be equally at risk, because if that
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  Speaker 6: happens and their risk doesn't pan out, then when the
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  Speaker 6: men come back, they end up having to do all
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  Speaker 6: of that themselves when they're exhausted and injured and maybe sick.
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  Speaker 6: So when women try to do everything that men do
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  Speaker 6: and be everything that men are, they lose the great
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  Speaker 6: things that women did, and those great things brought power,
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  Speaker 6: brought social influence because women were the ones deal with that.
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  Speaker 6: Then women would be the ones that would say, hey,
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  Speaker 6: we need this, our community needs this, our children need this,
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  Speaker 6: our husbands need this, and they were the voice. But
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  Speaker 6: if they feel comfortable just substituting a vote for that,
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  Speaker 6: all of that disappears. And we've seen that happen throughout
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  Speaker 6: our whole civilization, all of Western civilization. Women have gone
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  Speaker 6: from largely being the people who do all of those
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  Speaker 6: services and provide all of that care to being the
• 2:24:40
  Speaker 6: people on the street yelling we're here, we're queer, and
• 2:24:43
  Speaker 6: we're in your face, right, being the people demanding the
• 2:24:49
  Speaker 6: right to kill their babies before they're born, Being the
• 2:24:53
  Speaker 6: people demanding the right to impunity for women men who
• 2:25:00
  Speaker 6: lie about men too, men's detriment to the degree of
• 2:25:06
  Speaker 6: imprisonment for something that they didn't do. You know, it's
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  Speaker 6: it's understandable. Would why you would call that de evolution,
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  Speaker 6: But yeah, she turned out to be right. The great
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  Speaker 6: destruction in our society that we have seen with women
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  Speaker 6: busy school systems have not been held accountable, and over
• 2:25:40
  Speaker 6: the last seventy years or sgo, seventy years or so,
• 2:25:45
  Speaker 6: our school systems have changed from a place where kids
• 2:25:48
  Speaker 6: went to learn reading, writing, and arithmetic to learning how
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  Speaker 6: to be as dysfunctional as humanly possible and remaining ignorant
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  Speaker 6: about their history. So I will say this, I'm not
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  Speaker 6: saying necessarily that women shouldn't take part in civics, in
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  Speaker 6: the in the processes of civics. What I am saying
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  Speaker 6: is that women should be very careful to not give
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  Speaker 6: up the the the power that they had, and to
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  Speaker 6: not substitute the laziest way of exercising civic power, not
• 2:26:50
  Speaker 6: not to substitute that for all of the things that
• 2:26:53
  Speaker 6: women have historically been able to do, because it does
• 2:26:58
  Speaker 6: create a situation where pretty much nothing gets done by
• 2:27:04
  Speaker 6: the people. Everything gets done by this elite class that
• 2:27:08
  Speaker 6: has really made itself into what the Hunger Games portrayed.
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  Speaker 6: And with that, I think we are going to call
• 2:27:22
  Speaker 6: it a night, because it's like a quarter after nine.
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  Speaker 6: So I have read all I think I've read all
• 2:27:28
  Speaker 6: the super chats. Yeah, that's the last super chi. I
• 2:27:31
  Speaker 6: did read all the super Chows. And I don't think
• 2:27:35
  Speaker 6: we had the one rumble rant here that I think
• 2:27:41
  Speaker 6: I didn't read, because we had one that I did
• 2:27:44
  Speaker 6: and then I missed Noba Fan's second one. Noba Fan
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  Speaker 6: gave us another dollar and said, for anyone who likes
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  Speaker 6: the healthcare system in Canada or Japan, always know that
• 2:27:55
  Speaker 6: best case scenario, your whole community fat shames you relentlessly,
• 2:27:58
  Speaker 6: and Canada has the Maid program. I don't know. I'm
• 2:28:02
  Speaker 6: gonna be honest. Fat shaming not a problem, not a
• 2:28:07
  Speaker 6: real problem, right. Fat acceptance pun intended is a huge problem.
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  Speaker 6: It's very dangerous to the people who think they're benefiting
• 2:28:25
  Speaker 6: from it. The most. I've had my own weight problems
• 2:28:32
  Speaker 6: in the last like ten years or so, and had
• 2:28:36
  Speaker 6: never really experienced that in my youth, So I didn't
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  Speaker 6: really understand all of the ways that being fat can
• 2:28:47
  Speaker 6: be a detriment to your health until I gained enough
• 2:28:50
  Speaker 6: weight to hit like I was a few pounds shy
• 2:28:55
  Speaker 6: of what is considered morbid obesity in medical terms before
• 2:29:03
  Speaker 6: I realized just how bad it is. It affects every
• 2:29:09
  Speaker 6: aspect of your health. And people who say they can
• 2:29:14
  Speaker 6: be fat and healthy at the same time are full
• 2:29:16
  Speaker 6: of shit. And actually that's one of the things that's
• 2:29:19
  Speaker 6: affected you literally are full of shit. It affects your
• 2:29:23
  Speaker 6: ability to poop, it's everything, So like my allergies are
• 2:29:31
  Speaker 6: worse when I'm fat. I don't even know how that works,
• 2:29:36
  Speaker 6: but I'm sure my doctor could explain it. He's had
• 2:29:39
  Speaker 6: to explain a whole bunch of other connections to it,
• 2:29:43
  Speaker 6: Like you really see a huge slide in your health,
• 2:29:50
  Speaker 6: downturn in your health when you get above the level
• 2:29:55
  Speaker 6: of like there's a high end of healthy and then
• 2:30:00
  Speaker 6: and beyond that you start to get into metabolic disorders,
• 2:30:05
  Speaker 6: and your metabolism affects everything else about your body, because
• 2:30:10
  Speaker 6: it affects where your nutrition is distributed, how it's distributed,
• 2:30:14
  Speaker 6: how much you make use of it, and how well
• 2:30:17
  Speaker 6: you make use of it, and it's just not yeah,
• 2:30:24
  Speaker 6: so yeah, the whole fat shaming thing. Better to be
• 2:30:29
  Speaker 6: over zealous about policing something like that socially, at least,
• 2:30:35
  Speaker 6: because you know, you can shame the shit out of
• 2:30:37
  Speaker 6: somebody for something and they don't have to listen. They
• 2:30:40
  Speaker 6: can say, fuck you, I'm gonna be fat if I
• 2:30:42
  Speaker 6: want to, right.
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  Speaker 5: But.
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  Speaker 6: Making it the norm for people to strive for a
• 2:30:52
  Speaker 6: healthy weight, that's positive. I don't it's socializing. Medicine doesn't
• 2:30:59
  Speaker 6: necessarily fix a lot of problems. In fact, it creates
• 2:31:03
  Speaker 6: an incentive for rationing. It creates an incentive for standardization
• 2:31:10
  Speaker 6: in things that aren't standard and it it creates it
• 2:31:19
  Speaker 6: creates gatekeeping in a different way than money creates gatekeeping.
• 2:31:25
  Speaker 6: And so you don't you don't fix the problems that
• 2:31:29
  Speaker 6: you've socialized to fix, and then you end up with
• 2:31:33
  Speaker 6: things like Canada's made program where you go to the
• 2:31:37
  Speaker 6: doctor because you're depressed and the doctor's like, well, would
• 2:31:42
  Speaker 6: you like to commit suicide? No? No, I came here
• 2:31:45
  Speaker 6: to get some kind of therapy so I can get
• 2:31:48
  Speaker 6: back on my feet. I don't want to die. No,
• 2:31:51
  Speaker 6: not everybody who's depressed as suicidal, you know, and not
• 2:31:55
  Speaker 6: everybody who's suicidal is suicidal forever either, So there is that.
• 2:32:05
  Speaker 6: But yeah, yeah, you might want to reconsider the idea
• 2:32:13
  Speaker 6: of something. There is no such thing as free with
• 2:32:19
  Speaker 6: regard to somebody else's services. Either you are paying for
• 2:32:25
  Speaker 6: it or you are expecting someone else to pay for it,
• 2:32:30
  Speaker 6: and they're either paying for it with tax dollars, with
• 2:32:34
  Speaker 6: their own money, or by spending their time. And everybody
• 2:32:39
  Speaker 6: has a limited amount of that, and we don't all
• 2:32:41
  Speaker 6: know exactly how small that limit is. So yeah, there's
• 2:32:47
  Speaker 6: no free There's no free health care. Free health care
• 2:32:51
  Speaker 6: is not real. It's a lie, and you're probably paying
• 2:32:57
  Speaker 6: for it. So there you go. Gabriel phil and Lucas
• 2:33:03
  Speaker 6: asks is there an after show? Yes, there is. And
• 2:33:07
  Speaker 6: we have been going over an article that at the
• 2:33:12
  Speaker 6: point when I found it was titled sixty nine things
• 2:33:16
  Speaker 6: Trump has said about women, and it's it's literally just
• 2:33:19
  Speaker 6: a listical The author didn't expand on any of the things.
• 2:33:27
  Speaker 6: He just listed things that Trump has said about women,
• 2:33:32
  Speaker 6: and some of them he's cobbled together quotes that aren't
• 2:33:38
  Speaker 6: They weren't even said in the same interview. But so
• 2:33:44
  Speaker 6: this is basically how social justice warriors, how woke types
• 2:33:50
  Speaker 6: freak out. There's no you're just supposed to be offended.
• 2:33:54
  Speaker 6: There's no explanation as to why you're supposed to be offended,
• 2:33:57
  Speaker 6: How it was offensive, what's wrong with it? Trump said
• 2:34:01
  Speaker 6: this thing? Can you believe that? He said words? So
• 2:34:07
  Speaker 6: that's our after show. We're gonna look at the words
• 2:34:09
  Speaker 6: that have triggered theoke woke journalist and talk about them.
• 2:34:16
  Speaker 6: And it's the last I looked at was now seventy
• 2:34:20
  Speaker 6: four things that Trump has said about women, So he
• 2:34:24
  Speaker 6: said five more things since And I looked at the url,
• 2:34:28
  Speaker 6: and the URL indicates that the original title of the
• 2:34:32
  Speaker 6: article was sixty one things that Trump has said about women.
• 2:34:38
  Speaker 6: So this guy's just adding to it. We may never
• 2:34:40
  Speaker 6: get to the end of that article because Trump talks,
• 2:34:45
  Speaker 6: maybe not more than me, but a lot so and
• 2:34:49
  Speaker 6: he does he does talk about women, and it's glorious
• 2:34:53
  Speaker 6: and and so that's what we're doing. But with that,
• 2:34:58
  Speaker 6: I will thank my two co hosts for going through
• 2:35:02
  Speaker 6: trudging through the uh, the history of the anti Suffragette movement,
• 2:35:09
  Speaker 6: which was mostly women. With me and to our listeners
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  Speaker 6: for going over this dry subject with me, because history
• 2:35:17
  Speaker 6: is kind of a dry subject and I might get
• 2:35:19
  Speaker 6: preachy on it, but I think we've had we've we've
• 2:35:24
  Speaker 6: revealed some important things that people have forgotten about the
• 2:35:29
  Speaker 6: history of our culture. So thanks everybody for listening, and
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  Speaker 6: good idol.
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  Speaker 9: Men's right activists are machines, dude. Okay, they are literal machines.
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  Speaker 9: They are talking point machines. They are impossible to fucking
• 2:35:46
  Speaker 9: deal with, especially if you have, like especially if you
• 2:35:48
  Speaker 9: have like a couple of dudes who have good memory.
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  Speaker 9: On top of that too, Holy shit, you're fucked