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Vinny's dream ... it's coming true. · Aired Out

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  Speaker 2: We have so much to unpack this week here in
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  Speaker 2: this day, number thirteen of July. What's the What's the
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  Speaker 2: best thing that happened to you this weekend? The best thing.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to get into that this morning. We're going
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  Speaker 2: to talk about it. One of the best things that
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  Speaker 2: happened to me. Actually, I don't know if I could
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  Speaker 2: say one of the best things. The best thing that
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  Speaker 2: happened to me this weekend was the experience that I
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  Speaker 2: had in a large field out in the middle of
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  Speaker 2: nowhere in South Royalton. It was just amazing to experience
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  Speaker 2: everything that happened at Vincent's Battle of the Bands. We're
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  Speaker 2: going to be chatting with Vinnie here in just a
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  Speaker 2: little bit central Vermont. Habitat for Humanity's new restore in
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  Speaker 2: Berlin is where everybody was yesterday for their grand opening.
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  Speaker 2: Several people, several hundred people showed up for this and
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  Speaker 2: it was just amazing, and a big shout out to
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  Speaker 2: the Wayside Restaurant for donating the burghers and the dogs
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  Speaker 2: for the free cookout. The volunteers, the entire staff, including
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  Speaker 2: Zach and Jess, were just amazing. The prices were fantastic,
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  Speaker 2: the variety was huge, the layout was well planned, everything
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  Speaker 2: was organized. It was just even though there were so
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  Speaker 2: many people and there had to be three or four
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  Speaker 2: hundred people in there, easily proceeds support Habitat for Humanity
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  Speaker 2: affordable housing projects, including the one currently underway in Northfield.
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait to get back over there and chat
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  Speaker 2: with Zach and Jess and a few other of the
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  Speaker 2: volunteers really really soon as we shine the spotlight brightly
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  Speaker 2: on this new store in Berlin. Incredible. Two separate missing
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  Speaker 2: person cases involving Bradford area men over the weekend. Both
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  Speaker 2: incidents had positive outcomes with the men found safe after
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  Speaker 2: a whole lot of public assistance and law enforcement efforts.
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  Speaker 2: Great news. There some drunk guy at the Do Good
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  Speaker 2: Fest on Saturday biting officers while he was getting arrested.
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  Speaker 2: Next time he needs to do gooder. First ever Upper
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  Speaker 2: Valley Cars and Coffee event at the Powerhouse Mall parking
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  Speaker 2: lot in wes Lebanon yesterday, huge crowd, over one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and fifty classic and antique cars a crowd of several
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  Speaker 2: hundred people. Organizer Chris Hatch and his son were just
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  Speaker 2: over the moon with the turnout and expect next month's
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  Speaker 2: August ninth meet to be even bigger. Follow them on
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  Speaker 2: Facebook and Upper Valley Cars and Coffee. And speaking of
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  Speaker 2: cars and car shows, brace yourself. Barry Cyrus Douchcharm is
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  Speaker 2: bringing the goods to thunder Road with the first of
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  Speaker 2: its kind car show in just about two weeks from now.
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  Speaker 2: The Cars and Rubber Show at thunder Road July twenty fourth,
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  Speaker 2: twenty fifth, and twenty sixth vendors car show, cars, two
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  Speaker 2: step comps, burnouts, car limbo, music, food, tons more. Cyrus
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  Speaker 2: is going to be on the air with us really
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  Speaker 2: soon and talking about this a lot more the national headlines.
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  Speaker 2: I think the primary here over at the last couple
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  Speaker 2: long time South Carolina Republican senator passing away from an
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  Speaker 2: global energy supplies and regional instability. That was not the
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  Speaker 2: greatest news over the weekend, and things are just ramping
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  Speaker 2: up there over in the Middle East, and it's sad
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  Speaker 2: to hear Wall Street brasen for a busy week. Investors
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  Speaker 2: much so dangerous heat gripping parts of the West Salt
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  Speaker 2: Lake City one hundred and nine degrees heat warnings remain
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  Speaker 2: in effect there. Congress is going to be returning to
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  Speaker 2: key legislative battles. Lawmakers expected to debate federal spending, national security,
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  Speaker 2: economic priorities. Could be a pivotal week on Capitol Hill.
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  Speaker 2: We'll keep you posted on things. Health officials continuing to
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  Speaker 2: monitor ebola or ebolai cases. What is it? Obola ebola?
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  Speaker 2: I think whatever it is, I'm glad I don't have it.
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  Speaker 2: The CDC is tracking a US citizen who's tested positive
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  Speaker 2: right now. Health risk very low, so they said, on
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  Speaker 2: a lighter note, it's e Bowlie. Michael Jackson, his movie Michael.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen it. Highest grossing movie
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  Speaker 2: just landed one billion dollars. The movie, the Michael Jackson
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  Speaker 2: Biopic has officially crossed it. And I think this hit
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  Speaker 2: last night the one billion dollar worldwide mark at the
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  Speaker 2: box office. Milestone. Yes, first biographical film in history to
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  Speaker 2: reach that mark. Highest grossing musical biopic of all time.
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  Speaker 2: Not surprised, saw it twice, Loved it. Israeli officials have
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  Speaker 2: reportedly warned the United States about a possible Iranian plot
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  Speaker 2: targeting President Donald Trump. Are you surprised? According to multiple
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  Speaker 2: news outlets citing unnamed official, The reports say that Israel
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  Speaker 2: shared intelligence with United States authorities after identifying what it
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  Speaker 2: believed to be a credible threat. Although no public evidence
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  Speaker 2: has been released detailing any of this alleged plot, reports
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  Speaker 2: also indicate there is no indication that the threat is
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  Speaker 2: considered imminent. US Secret Service and other federal agencies routinely
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  Speaker 2: evaluate and respond to threats against the president. Neither the
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  Speaker 2: White House nor US Intelligence officials have publicly confirmed specific
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  Speaker 2: details about the reported warning. Of course they haven't. No
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  Speaker 2: Tailor Rocketman didn't do that as well, not this big,
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  Speaker 2: and neither did Bohemian Rhapsody this weekend. As I let
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  Speaker 2: off this morning by saying, was huge for me. Not
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  Speaker 2: only was my heart full to see the huge out
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  Speaker 2: yesterday at the new Restore building in Berlin, and it
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  Speaker 2: was just so much fun to be there, but Saturday
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  Speaker 2: was particularly particularly special for me. It was an experience
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  Speaker 2: unlike none other that I've ever had. In Vermont. I
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  Speaker 2: got a chance to get to Vincent's Battle of the
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  Speaker 2: Bands at Vincent's campground in Royalton for the live music,
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  Speaker 2: the incredible food, the camping, the whole experience was just stellar.
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  Speaker 2: And if you haven't been on Vincent's Battle dot Org.
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  Speaker 2: Yet you gotta get there. Vinnie has been on with
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  Speaker 2: me in the past a couple of times. He's back
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  Speaker 2: with me this morning. You must be a very very
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  Speaker 2: tired guy right now, Vinnie.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'm definitely a little tired, and I'm trying to
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  Speaker 3: get my voice back from all hooting and hollering on Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. It was amazing, dude.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it turned out perfectly. Bands were just I mean,
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  Speaker 3: if you love music, it's there was something there for everybody. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and the right amount of people showed up because literally
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  Speaker 3: the whole one hundred and seventy pound pig was there's
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  Speaker 3: nothing but yeah, it was nothing but bones, you know
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  Speaker 3: at the end. So, I mean it was the right
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  Speaker 3: sized crowd for me, you know, being my first one.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't want like too many people to.
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  Speaker 2: Show you were you were busy enough as it was. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: How many people do you think were there, Vinnie.
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  Speaker 4: I have no idea.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, just a couple of hundred.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, probably that's probably roughly all right correct.
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  Speaker 2: What happened was what's the story of your son, Vincent Jr.
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  Speaker 2: What's the inception of all of this For folks that
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  Speaker 2: are not familiar with Well.
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  Speaker 3: He was a musician and he played music, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: he died recently fentanyl poisoning, you know, murder. That's how
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  Speaker 3: I classify him. And the band showed up for his
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  Speaker 3: celebration of life, and they just it was just amazing. Now,
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  Speaker 3: they just all came and played music for him and a.
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  Speaker 2: Couple how many bands twelve thirteen?
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  Speaker 3: Well, fifteen, this last weekend was twelve, But the original
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  Speaker 3: Celebrational Life I think was seven. Okay, But so this show,
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  Speaker 3: we really concentrated on all his friends that played music,
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  Speaker 3: and we got them all there, and I mean it
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  Speaker 3: was kind of like another Celebrational Life, you know, in
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  Speaker 3: a way. But so it was a great turnout. We
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  Speaker 3: had politicians showed up. I was able to talk to
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  Speaker 3: you and more.
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  Speaker 4: Depth, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I got to tell you Joshua Lake, Yeah, amazing guy
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  Speaker 2: who's running for Windsor County sheriff. Yes, thirty years old.
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  Speaker 2: That dude had such an impact on me. We had
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  Speaker 2: a conversation and I was like, well, whoa, whoa, whoa,
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  Speaker 2: hang on, man, hang on, I got to turn my
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  Speaker 2: phone on. We need to start capturing what we're saying
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  Speaker 2: right now. I want everybody to hear. And I did
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  Speaker 2: and it came out perfectly. What he said really resonated
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  Speaker 2: with a lot of people. This guy is so dialed
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  Speaker 2: in thirty years old. His older brother was ten years sober,
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  Speaker 2: relapsed just like your son did, Yeah, and died.
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  Speaker 3: And that tells you the importance of the after treatment programs.
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  Speaker 3: They're they're crucial.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they are huge. There's a lot going on here,
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  Speaker 2: and Joshua and I we were able to chat about
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  Speaker 2: this a little bit. Prevention is key, being a great parent,
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  Speaker 2: starting out early, getting your kids on the right path,
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  Speaker 2: recovery treatment centers, getting people the right resources, but also
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  Speaker 2: the relationship with law enforcement. As josh was saying, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's has got a change.
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  Speaker 3: It has to change, asked the way they do policing
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  Speaker 3: has to change too. I mean, I think if this
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  Speaker 3: epidemic was treated the same as like say domestic violence,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, if somebody calls the police for domestic violence,
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  Speaker 3: you got like twenty cops will show up, you know instantly. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: some what as you going to jail?
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  Speaker 2: Here's the thing, Fornny, and you know this, this is
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  Speaker 2: a this is a controversial subject in respect to everybody's
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  Speaker 2: got an opinion on drug use. You can't put this
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  Speaker 2: one thing in a box.
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  Speaker 4: Man.
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  Speaker 2: Now there's folks that are supplying, selling, distributing all that
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  Speaker 2: real problem. Then there's there's folks that just can't get
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  Speaker 2: themselves out of the grips of addiction, yeap, and maybe
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  Speaker 2: have explored a couple of resources that haven't really worked out.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Josh was telling me that right now, in
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  Speaker 2: the state of Vermont, treatment facilities are what are they
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  Speaker 2: twenty eight days?
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  Speaker 3: It's in my experience, I think it took almost four
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  Speaker 3: weeks to get him in treatment, and that's just unacceptable.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's they could be dead before they
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  Speaker 3: even get there, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Josh is one, I mean insanely busy guy. He
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  Speaker 2: was going on no sleep, running around going from one
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  Speaker 2: thing to another, and even on no literally no sleep
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  Speaker 2: from the previous day. He was at your event and said,
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  Speaker 2: I've gotta I've got to get on a jet and
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  Speaker 2: and and i gotta i gotta catch a plane. I
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  Speaker 2: gotta go. You know, I'm I'm hoping at some point
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  Speaker 2: that he'll drive up here and sit on the couch.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I spoke to him. He wants to be here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I also hope that we can get some of
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  Speaker 2: these musicians to come in here and not necessarily perform maybe,
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  Speaker 2: but mostly to share their story. Patrick Sargent one of
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  Speaker 2: the musicians that played blew my Mind. H Jacob Green unbelievable,
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  Speaker 2: another good one. Gully Boys Legends, you know, Bill, Bill
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  Speaker 2: Temple both there. Yeah, I mean these guys, Rick Reddington,
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  Speaker 2: Rick Reddington, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, these are the people that want to help the community.
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  Speaker 4: And and they're all in.
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  Speaker 2: There. There were a couple of different crowds that were there.
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  Speaker 2: There was a young crowd that was very very dialed
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  Speaker 2: into the music, the artistry of rap, which your son
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  Speaker 2: was and his his friends were all there, and their
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  Speaker 2: friends were there. And there was a community, a couple
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  Speaker 2: of different communities that all came together from some from
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  Speaker 2: New York and and Rutland, and they were just all there.
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  Speaker 2: I've never been really a rap guy, however, I sat
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  Speaker 2: and listened to them rapping, them performing, and I was
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  Speaker 2: listening to the messages in their lyrics.
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  Speaker 4: That's that's there.
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  Speaker 3: I think there advantage to their type of music as
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  Speaker 3: they can they can use what that's their music is words.
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  Speaker 2: It's words, and they can say and and rhythm and
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  Speaker 2: putting those two together. What a fusion, and it was
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  Speaker 2: it was amazing to hear what they were saying. Sometimes
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  Speaker 2: a little fast for this old guy to process it,
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  Speaker 2: but man, I mean And they've got a big music
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  Speaker 2: festival that's coming up this coming weekend seventeenth, eighteenth, and
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  Speaker 2: nineteenth Music is Life Fest, And so many of the
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  Speaker 2: artists that were performing under your tent at your event
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  Speaker 2: are going to be there this weekend Bellows Falls. And
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to give you more information on that. Trust me,
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna we're going to blow that up here on
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  Speaker 2: the air. But this is for you. This is about
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  Speaker 2: bringing awareness. This is also about prevention, This is also
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  Speaker 2: about recovery. But this is also about Vermont getting tough
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  Speaker 2: on this stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we need to change the laws.
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  Speaker 2: We need to change a lot, and hopefully we've got
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  Speaker 2: some politicians that are paying attention and really going to
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  Speaker 2: put forth some effort in maybe drawing up a bill.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, we're working on that right now.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, we have.
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  Speaker 4: Kirk White who's has a lot of experience with that.
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  Speaker 4: He was there.
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  Speaker 3: And my cousin, so he's kind of dedicated to this
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  Speaker 3: cause as well, and I would like to get him
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  Speaker 3: in here at some point.
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  Speaker 4: Too as well possible please and.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, and also we have Rebecca White the other end
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  Speaker 3: the Senate, and she wants to help craft this law
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  Speaker 3: as well. So and then my input, you know, and
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  Speaker 3: and you know I need their help because they know
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  Speaker 3: how to get the laws, you know, moved forward and passed.
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  Speaker 2: So one of the guys that we were all kind
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  Speaker 2: of in a different frame of mind. I think when
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  Speaker 2: we were there, a lot of us were consumed with
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  Speaker 2: the music and some incredible food. But one of the
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  Speaker 2: guys that I really wanted to chat with more. And
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  Speaker 2: when I was driving home, it hit me, I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: damn it, I wish you had more. I wish that
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  Speaker 2: you took more of an opportunity to chat with. This
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  Speaker 2: guy was Jay from Divided Sky.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's he's definitely. We're definitely trying to get
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  Speaker 3: Divided Sky to be part of our organization, and Jay's
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  Speaker 3: working hard with that. He's talking with the higher ups
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  Speaker 3: that I don't know what you call him, the chair people.
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  Speaker 3: And so yeah, I would like you guys at some
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  Speaker 3: point be able to do just a Divided Sky interview
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  Speaker 3: because not many people know about it.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: It all started when Trey is Anastasio from from Fish.
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  Speaker 2: I think he was what pulled over and busted for
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what it was. I don't know pot
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: or booze, whatever it was. And he, you know, graciously
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  Speaker 2: accepted his failures and accepted his responsibility to do better.
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  Speaker 2: But he also noticed a couple of pretty big loopholes
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  Speaker 2: that weren't being met and said, I got to do
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  Speaker 2: something something in this state. And it took that experience
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  Speaker 2: for Divided Sky to be born. And now Jonas Promise
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  Speaker 2: has got a coffee that's called Divided Sky named after
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  Speaker 2: all this. I mean, it's it's a big deal, man,
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  Speaker 2: it's a big big deal.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, being that we do music and stuff,
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  Speaker 3: and and Jay knows these people like I think he
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  Speaker 3: knows three members of Fish, you know, so it's possible someday,
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  Speaker 3: you know, it'd be amazing if we could get some
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  Speaker 3: of the members that even show up someday.
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  Speaker 2: Tell me about Bob Duncle.
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  Speaker 4: He's another politician.
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  Speaker 3: He's running for state representative in in my area and he.
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  Speaker 2: Wants to be windsor Orange District one I think, yes,
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  Speaker 2: which which includes Worlton and Tonbridge.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was gonna try to do a phone
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  Speaker 3: in with you today, but I.
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  Speaker 2: Think he's with us right now. Bob, you there, I
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  Speaker 2: am here, hey man, it is. It's a pleasure to
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  Speaker 2: have you on aired Out this morning. Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 2: What say you about all of this? Were you able
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  Speaker 2: to get to Vincent's Battle of the Bands on Saturday?
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  Speaker 5: I was, and I enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 6: I brought some friends up from Massachusetts and they said
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  Speaker 6: it was the best Pig Girls they'd ever been to.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. What an experience. Man. The music, I mean, everything
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  Speaker 2: about it was unbelievable. It was full of love, full
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  Speaker 2: of joy, full of great music and drink and everything.
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  Speaker 2: But a bigger, bigger message here, and it goes beyond
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: just awareness. Are we being tough enough in Vermont on
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: the battle against opioid use? Overuse, addiction? And how how
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: can we do how can we do something to prevent
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: the drugs from infiltrating our state at the level that
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: they are?
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: Well, I don't think we're doing enough, mainly because I
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: think we're a little soft on crime in general and Vermont.
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: I mean that's just my opinion. But you know, if
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: you if you're bringing in drugs that have a very
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: high kill ratio. I mean, I'm on the fire department.
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: I've been an empty We do special training just for
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: those instances where we come across somebody who's overdosed on
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: ventanyl and we have to be careful in touching and
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: handling the person that we're working with because that can
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: infect us as well. Right through this. So that stuff
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: is so potent, so vile that it doesn't take much
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: to kill somebody. And if you're, in my opinion, if
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: you're bringing that to somebody with the intent to give
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: it to them with or without their knowledge that you're
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: trying to kill that person, I mean, you know that
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: the consequences can be that that person will die, and
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: so I think there needs to be a higher penalty
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: for that that's enforced.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what what is what is currently in place for
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: something like this? Anything?
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: You know, I'm not sure, to be honest with you.
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: I think there is some penalties, but I don't think
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: there's I'm certain they're not severe enough. I mean, I
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: can look it up real quick, the Vermont consequences Vermont
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: law of regarding bent and all. But it's I've talked
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: to uh, you know, I have other friends whose child
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: children have died from the same thing and and yeah.
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: So some people will say, well, this person was taking
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: drugs anyway, so they're you know, they're not harmless in
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: this or they can't be held harmless. That might be true,
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: but that person may not know that there's been something
• 28:25
  Speaker 6: else added to it that's they could kill them.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's uh, you know it. In Joshua Lake, who's
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: running for sheriff Winsor County, right, I'm pretty sure. Yeah,
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: I asked him point blank, is this murder? And he
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: didn't even hesitate. He was like, absolutely it is. We've
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: but he also recognized we got some some real problems
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: in some of our corridors coming into Vermont, and it's
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: not just ninety one North out of Springfield in Hartford.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure what we need to do here in Vermont,
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: josh says. And I've had a few other people on
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: the air here who have echoed the same sentiment that
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: the only the only way to really get a grip
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: on this is to destroy the market, essentially the customers.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: The customers and I'm sorry, yeah, no, please bop go
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: right ahead.
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: So I guess my next question would be, how do
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: you destroy the customers I mean using that term. Yeah,
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: and the market. You know, the problem is that people
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: have addictions. Everybody has addictions, whatever it is. Everybody has
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: an addiction. It could be caffeine, it could be whatever. Sure, gambling, gambling,
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: you know all.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Cigarettes work. Yeah, exactly.
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: So, so once we acknowledge that we all suffer from
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: something along the line of addiction, then maybe we can
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: be a little bit more compassionate towards the person has addictions,
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: towards things that can actually kill them more quickly. And yeah,
• 30:34
  Speaker 6: so education, I think parents need more involvement with their kids.
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: I think there's all kinds of things that go into
• 30:40
  Speaker 6: that to help keep them from going down that road
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: to begin with. But my issue is with the person
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: who knows that they have this addiction and and use
• 30:52
  Speaker 6: that to gain an advantage over them or to put
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: them in harms way. There are some drugs that are
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: so addictive all you have to do is have it
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: once and you're hooked. And there are people who will
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: go out and try to get you that drug with
• 31:12
  Speaker 6: or without your knowledge, so that you become a customer.
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: So so how do we stop that from happening, I
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: guess would be the question.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're absolutely right, and Joshua Lake was hitting
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: on some of these things too. You know, destroying the
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: market is a multi tier effort. Man. It's like it's huge,
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: and prevention is just one of them, small piece of
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: the pie, but in a very important one too. It's like,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: we got to start at the route and be better parents,
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: better community members. We have to better law enforcement, we
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: have to look out for one another. We have to
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: get you know, like josh Us saying, you know, look
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: at the look at the sports communities we have. We
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: have families, we have we have people in our community
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: that are pushing for for you know, for for athletic
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: departments and for kids to get into basketball and softball
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: and soccer. And the community is tight and they they bang.
• 32:31
  Speaker 6: Don't forget track of course, yes, track and field.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah absolutely, It's like, you know, but look at how
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: dialed in this this community is and how they all
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: support each other and they push each other and encourage
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: each other, and there's there's a there's a sense of
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: camaraderie that's very very strong. We need to do that
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: for our community. If we have a friend or a
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: friend of a friend who is going down a road,
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: we need to try to help them get off of
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: that road and get on a better road.
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree, and I want to give a shout
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: out first of all, to law enforcement. I know quite
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: a few people are on law enforcement. They're doing a
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: great job, they're doing the best they can. But what
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: they're up against, I think a little bit, is that
• 33:23
  Speaker 6: the state tends to catch and release really quickly, and
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: so they could put on these books all these tough
• 33:31
  Speaker 6: consequences for trafficking and possessing, but they if the cops
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: arrest them and then they're sent right out, you know,
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: back on the streets, there's no consequence there. Maybe the
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: consequences on the books, but what is the reality of
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: whether those consequences. I mean, I know I have friends,
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: I know people who are very frustrated with the idea
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: that you know, so and so got arrested again for distributing,
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: but they're back out on the street the next day.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: And that's where we need mandatory sending sentences and they
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: have to be strong. And that's the main backbone of
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: the law that I would like to present, and we
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: need to take this out of the judge's hands and
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: they're give and not give them the ability to catch
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: a release anymore, because they're literally killing other people in
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: our community by letting them go back out. And in
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: my opinion, that is absolutely keen in this new law.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: Bob, what do you say to other politicians that are
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: campaigning right now, that are running, or politicians in our
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Vermont legislature right now who may not look at this issue?
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: And I know, Bob, we could talk about Act one
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: eighty one all day. We could talk about lowering taxes
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: and the state spending and stuff like that. I know
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: that we've got a lot of challenges. But what do
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: you say to Vermont politicians running or already in office
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: that don't have this issue of our opioid crisis in
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: this little, tiny, beautiful New England state that they don't
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: have this as one of their top three priorities.
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: Maybe they ought to spend more time, maybe doing ride
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: alongs with ambulance companies, but they need to understand that
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: drugs are non partisan. There's nothing partisan about fentanyl. It'll
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: kill anybody regardless of what they wear for a label.
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: And unless we as a community gathered together and put
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: that partisan crap aside and say, look, we've got a problem,
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: how can we work together to result this problem. Part
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: of the problem is that we have divisiveness. And so
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: you know, our judges may be more left wing leaning
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: than some of the people who want them to be,
• 36:11
  Speaker 6: and and they make I don't know, I don't know
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: all the answers, but I do know that partisanship is
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: going to destroy us as a state if we don't.
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: And that's foot all issues. We all breathe the same air,
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: we all drink the same water, we all enjoy the
• 36:27
  Speaker 6: same scenery, and a lot of us are related. So
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: we need to realize that the big issues that are
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: killing our friends and our kids are bigger than the
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: partisan you know, get out on the street, talk to
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: people and learn what their stories are. Don't isolate yourself
• 36:48
  Speaker 6: from it. You can't isolate yourself from it. You have
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: to be a part of the community to be able
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: to represent the community.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: We just got to comment here. The judicial system and
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: the correctional systems hearing from it are terrible.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's it's absolutely horrible. I mean because
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: I've spoke with law enforcement and actually a person related
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: to me has a job as a manager of a
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: convenience store and she actually speaks to the law enforcement
• 37:26
  Speaker 3: officers on a daily basis. I mean, she's almost like
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: friends with them all, and they all say the same thing.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: They're like, we finally do the right thing, we finally
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: get a bust, and a week later they see the
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: same person on the street and and that's like very
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: demoralizing for the law enforcement. But also, I mean, we
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: got to start looking at this. This is a threat
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: to society, like it's that serious. I mean, in my opinion,
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: you could call it a up in a mass destruction
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: if you want to call it that. And we're not
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: looking at it like that. It's like everybody's got blinders
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: on and there's a word game going on where they
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: just call it, oh, it's just another overdose. And somehow
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: by just saying it's just another overdose and not even
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: having a law that is for that overdose victim is
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: I don't even know how it's possible. I don't even
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: understand it. I mean, to be serious about it, I'm
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: not an I legal expert, but I can use common
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: sense and know that, you know, we we have to
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: change the laws. The cops have to be unhandcuffed so
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: they can do their job, and when they do do
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: their job. They need to get to that a boy
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: or victory in court.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: You know, it's you know a comment here that's in it.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: I know, Bob. The the primaries coming up August eleventh,
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: which is pretty much tomorrow, and there's a lot of
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: stuff that needs to be talked about with regard to Vermont.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: One of the comments that just came in is, I
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: think a lot of people, especially those in power, think
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: that it runs too deep and there's too much to
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: try and fix. But if we just call or but
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: if we just all came together and put our foot
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: down as a collective community and start treating it like
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: the crisis that it actually is, it can be possible.
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: It's perfectly said.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's what say you, Bob, No, I agree.
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: You know, if we keep electing the same people, we're
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: going to get the same results. And I'm not I
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: don't walk on water by any means, but i am
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: very outspoken and i'm very I'm in your face. I mean,
• 39:57
  Speaker 6: if I see something that's not just I'm going to
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: talk about and I'm gonna raise hell over it. And
• 40:03
  Speaker 6: so they're right, the community needs to get together. One
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: person's death from an overdose could be anybody's. Yeah, And
• 40:11
  Speaker 6: I know they talk about how well that guy was
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: a drug addict, or he's done drugs or whatever. Well,
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: first of all, I'd like to ask who in this
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: state hasn't done drugs at least once. There's not very
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: many people overall. And it's not a matter of whether
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: you do drugs once, twice, three times, ten times. It's
• 40:27
  Speaker 6: a matter of if somebody put something in there that
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: you weren't aware of that's gonna kill you.
• 40:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's poisoning.
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: And it's more about for these some of these people's
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: more about money. If I can get you addicted to something,
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna make money. And it's a game all across
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: the board. McDonald's does it with their food flavors, Coca
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: Cola does it with I mean, Coca Cola used to
• 40:51
  Speaker 6: put cocaine in their coked right. You know, it's it's
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: the way it works. And if we can educate each
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: other and say, look, going down this road is going
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: to result in this, we gotta we got to educate
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: our kids from day one in school all the way through,
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: and then we've got to back up the law enforcement.
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: We've got to support them we've got to thank them,
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: and we've got to find judges that will put the
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: people that are doing this away so that the cops
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: don't have to keep arresting the same people over and
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: over again and take up their time and effort off
• 41:25
  Speaker 6: of other things that are important.
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: Amen. That was beautifully said. You know, I, Bob, I've
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: got a little girl, and I've had friends. I've had
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: people that are school teachers say to me, Man, you
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: got to be paying attention. Don't live in a bubble.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Don't think that it's not gonna that your your kid's
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: not going to be faced with this in some capacity.
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: You better if if if you got your head in
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: the sand and you think that they all is all
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: is good and clear and you don't have anything to
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: worry about, you're missing the boat here. Man. Keep your
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: freaking eyes wide open, is what I've been told as
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: a dad.
• 42:12
  Speaker 6: That's great advice. And I'm a grandfather. So I raised
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: eight kids and thank god, none of them got into drugs.
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: But I have twelve grandkids and I have this conversation
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: with them every time I see them. I have the
• 42:27
  Speaker 6: conversation when they start school. We talk about the drugs.
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: We talk about the alcohol. We talk about all this stuff,
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: and then I make them swear with me, a pinky
• 42:36
  Speaker 6: swear you're not going to get into this stuff. And
• 42:39
  Speaker 6: then every time I see them, I interview them and
• 42:42
  Speaker 6: I say, are you keeping your promise to me? You
• 42:45
  Speaker 6: have no idea as a parent or as a grandparent
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: how much influence you have over your kids. And that's
• 42:51
  Speaker 6: what it takes. You've got to have these conversations because
• 42:55
  Speaker 6: if you don't, somebody else is going to.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: Bob, what you just said is the beginning of the beginning,
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: according to josh Joshua Lake of destroying the market.
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: Yes, that's the very that's the root of it right there,
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: That is the very beginning.
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: I'm so glad you just said that.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: That's a SoundBite right there. I mean, that was perfectly said. Bob. Listen,
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: you got a microphone that's live and waiting for you
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: anytime you want over here.
• 43:31
  Speaker 6: Man, Well, I appreciate that.
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us this morning. We appreciate you so much.
• 43:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you for inviting me, and good luck and
• 43:40
  Speaker 6: let me know what I can do to help out.
• 43:42
  Speaker 6: I'm I'm a loud speaker. I have a loud voice,
• 43:45
  Speaker 6: and I have of you know, strong opinions about this,
• 43:47
  Speaker 6: But I have kids that I love. I have neighbors
• 43:50
  Speaker 6: kids that I love. We got to work together.
• 43:53
  Speaker 5: To stop this.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: Wow. Thanks Bob, all right, take it easy. Look that's
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: the kind of a guy right there. You want your
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: corner man.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, oh exactly, you know that's these are the people
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: we got.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Has Josh had a chance to meet up.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: I don't know if they brush passed on, you know,
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: during Saturday's event. They may have, but they should.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Know what you're you're doing, Vinnie. Is you're you're you're
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: doing exactly what you said you were going to do. Yeah,
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: while you were grieving. Yeah, and I heard, I heard,
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: I overheard, without you knowing, someone asked you a question
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: during this event Saturday. They asked you, have you had
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: a chance to fully grieve yet the loss of your son.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: I admittedly did not hear your answer, so I asked you,
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: have you had a chance or have you just dived
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: in headfirst to everything that you know?
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: I think I skipped past the grieving process because I
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: got myself so involved in you know what I'm what
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: I'm doing forward and I kind of made it a
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: point after the funeral, I you know, I wanted to
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: put sadness to rest there, and and I didn't think
• 45:27
  Speaker 3: my son wanted me to be sad. So you know,
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: I've tried to sort of skip past that whole process,
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: and and I've been so busy, so it's been you know,
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: I don't even have time to think about much like that.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: But you're not letting this go though, You're not going
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: to let this slip off your hook.
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: No, I mean, I'm like, I'm working on the next phase.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: There's a lot to what I am trying to do
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: versus maybe a traditional nonprofit that's focused on one thing. Sure,
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: I'm kind of focused on all of them, and I'm
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: trying to bring all of the everything is important, not
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: just the law enforcement, not just the treatment centers, not
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: just the change in the laws. All of them together
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: collectively are important.
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: Sure, And.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: So for what I am trying to do, I'm trying
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: to do massive amounts of things. Changing law, for one,
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: is just not something you do in a week's time.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: It's something you you work on you know, might take
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: a year, right, So I get the long term things
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: I'm working on and the short term things. But one
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: of the short term things I did kind of want
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: to touch on somewhat today, please, And that's the after
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: treatment programs, of which there is none or very little,
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: I guess, and if there are, I'm not aware of them.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: I mean, I guess. The only one that we could
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: speak of that's set up kind of is the narcotics
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: anonymous meetings that people can go to, which are really important,
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: but there's not enough of them in close locations. And
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: plus a lot of times people going through this don't
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: even have a driver's license or anything to get to meeting.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: So yeah, it's kind of tough. But in my son's case,
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: I think one of our biggest flaws we didn't even
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: know about was when they're clean, your defenses go down.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: You know, like your guard goes down.
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you think it's over. And that is a.
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: Very deceptive, tricky thing as for the family, because your
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: guard goes down, you don't know. And those relapses are
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: what Jeff really always kill people because they think they
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: can take the same amount of drugs they normally do
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: and they haven't been taken drugs for a while, and
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: so they're even more at a very weak and deceptible
• 48:15
  Speaker 3: point at that time. If they do have a relapse
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: to overdose. Yeah, and then you combine the fetanyl and
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: it's it's.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: Just a how long was your son cleaned for about
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: two years, okay, and relapsed in.
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: May, Yeah, the sixteenth, I believe.
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: Took a pill.
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: One one pill, you know what.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: He didn't know what was fal obviously, but yeah, but
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: that's all it takes.
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: There's one pill, you.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Know, it's and he was gone in a matter of what.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: Minutes, you know, minutes. He purchased it on the street
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: right where he was living, went upstairs and it ran
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: off No South Royalty at the law school graduation.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: During the law school graduation.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you walked out onto the street, bought the pill
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: basically right at the location and the graduation from the
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: law enforcement Yeah, law law enforcement everywhere, and went upstairs,
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: took that one pill and was dead minutes later.
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: You know.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: It's so that's the relapse is what we have to
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: concentrate on a lot. And so I've been talking to
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: a few different organizations and people that are doing other
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: things and what I'm what I'm trying to set up
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: on the website eventually, which I haven't been ready to
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: do up until I think we're getting close now is
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: to have.
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: An area on there for.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: Not only the treatment centers, but after treatment programs. So
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: when you get out of the treatment, there's already something set.
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: Up for you.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: And and so it's not just to go there, get
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: clean and then oh well, now you're back on the
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: streets without a job. You likely don't you likely don't
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: have a driver's license, you know, and you've got to
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: keep your head together, you know in that kind of
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: it's that yep, that must be even more tough than
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: the treatment itself. And uh, and we don't want people
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: that are getting out of that treatment to be sitting
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: around not doing anything and just thinking about things, you know.
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: So I've talked with Ryan Hearn, Brian Hearn.
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: He was just on the air with me last week.
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: With the VCA, the Vermont Construction Academy, And.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: If anyone missed that interview, you got to go back
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: to last Wednesday and check that out. It's unbelievable.
• 50:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, me and him are very early on in conversation,
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: but I I think there's opportunity for his nonprofit to
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: help with people that are getting out of treatment, to
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: teach him a trade and you know, have them learn
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: something that maybe it'll change their lives, you know, just
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: to have you know, I'm out there working and making
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: money and I'm doing something. And plus they're gonna be
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: with a group of people that are you know, men
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: like on the construction site. I mean I think that
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: would be like absolutely crucial.
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: Hopefully he's he's gonna me and him can work on that.
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: Here's another layer in peeling back the onion here, yeah,
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: in destroying the.
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: Market exactly right, exactly, And we have to do lots
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: of these different things. And then there's Rex Thompson, who's
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: can you help me with his charity name.
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: Rex Thompson is one of the most amazing guys, excellent
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: that you will ever meet. He is so dialed in
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: to helping kids be better in their lives through martial
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: arts and many many other things. He is going to
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: help you so much with what you're going to do,
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: trust me. Resilient Defense is his new institute. Yeah it's
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: starting out real small, but let me tell you it
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: has already grown and he is really changing lives. Resilient
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: Defense Institute already backed up and supported by Fuji Sports
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: and so many others including the United Fighting Arts Institute.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: Get on their Facebook page, follow them. You can be
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: a monthly subscriber too. I'll drop the link right here.
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: But there's another guy who with what he's doing, is
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: changing lives at the root level and destroying the market.
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mean I haven't had a chance to
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: talk to him in depth about this, but I think
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: there's an opportunity for him to help. Actually, I know
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: the perfect candidate right now, a friend of mine who's
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: recently gotten clean and sober. He's a very physical guy,
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: and part of his problem is anger and stuff, and
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: I think somebody like Rex would would be like so helpful.
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: For him right now.
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: I mean that's just one that I know of off
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: the top of my head, but there's probably several different
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: individuals that maybe could use his help coming out of treatment.
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: And again, this is the same thing to have an
• 54:04
  Speaker 3: adult male man, yeah, to help mentor you as I
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: think crucial.
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: I mean I really do.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: One of the performers that was there was Cult staff. Yeah,
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: an amazing, amazing performer. And I'm gonna see if we
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: can connect with connect in with him this morning. No
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: he's not he's not available. That's too bad. I'm calling
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: him right now. I mean all of these guys Kla Yeah,
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: Kla Mac guy out of Rutland. Unbelievable what I I
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: was so inspired by so many of these these young
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: guys that were there, that were performing. Their message was amazing.
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: The their relatability was extremely powerful. Their lyrics supported their message,
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: supported who they are, where they've come from, where they've been,
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: but more importantly, how they're going, how they're pushing forward.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: But relatability is key being a good person, understanding the
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: life that some people have led. I think we've got
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: cultsaff with us. Good good morning, my friend. How are
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: you good man? I'm sitting right next to Vinnie right now.
• 55:38
  Speaker 2: We got you live on aired out You guys, I'm
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: sure you just missed it. I was just talking about you.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: You guys blew my mind. And even for folks that
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: were there that aren't necessarily rappers or love that style
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: of music, our message was so profound it resonated with
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: everyone that was there.
• 56:05
  Speaker 5: My brother, thank you, thank you. I worked hard to
• 56:09
  Speaker 5: have it be more than just aimless and more of
• 56:14
  Speaker 5: a message.
• 56:16
  Speaker 7: That everybody could understand, because that's what it takes to
• 56:19
  Speaker 7: relate to certain styles.
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: And where are you from?
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: Originally I'm from Worcester, Massachusetts.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: Okay, and you've been in Vermont for how long?
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: About a year now?
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: Okay? What was your life like growing up in Worcester?
• 56:37
  Speaker 5: It was rough.
• 56:38
  Speaker 7: I grew up in the projects with a six sister
• 56:43
  Speaker 7: and it was just hard all around, you know, dad
• 56:47
  Speaker 7: in and out and didn't really have that stability that
• 56:53
  Speaker 7: I needed.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: Did you get yeah? Did you get an into drugs?
• 57:02
  Speaker 7: A little bit, but nothing too crazy because I had
• 57:06
  Speaker 7: to grow up really fast where I was, so I
• 57:10
  Speaker 7: understood right from wrong in the beginning, probably around eleven
• 57:14
  Speaker 7: twelve years old. But now I don't even I don't.
• 57:21
  Speaker 7: I don't even smoke or anything, you know what I mean.
• 57:25
  Speaker 7: I have a beer here and there, but everything turns
• 57:32
  Speaker 7: around eventually.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: Do you have any kids?
• 57:36
  Speaker 5: Two daughters?
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: What are you? How old are they and what do
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: you say to them?
• 57:40
  Speaker 5: One is three and one is four?
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: What do you say to them?
• 57:47
  Speaker 5: What do you mean?
• 57:48
  Speaker 6: Like?
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: Well, what's the message that you you push on your kids?
• 57:53
  Speaker 5: You could do anything you want as long as you
• 57:56
  Speaker 5: put your mind to it, and safety instability. He is key.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: Did you know Vincent?
• 58:07
  Speaker 5: Not personally yet?
• 58:08
  Speaker 7: I so Kla had told me about it and had
• 58:14
  Speaker 7: reached out to me, and I loved the movement that
• 58:17
  Speaker 7: was going on, and I had seen footage from the
• 58:21
  Speaker 7: last show that got thrown and I think it was
• 58:25
  Speaker 7: just awesome all around.
• 58:26
  Speaker 5: So I figured, if I.
• 58:28
  Speaker 7: Can come and help make an impact and bring people
• 58:31
  Speaker 7: together and be a part of that.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: But i'd love to have you lost anyone to drugs?
• 58:38
  Speaker 5: Yes?
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: Who is that?
• 58:43
  Speaker 7: One of my best friends? What happened a couple of
• 58:47
  Speaker 7: years ago, just overdose and it wasn't pills. But you know,
• 58:57
  Speaker 7: it's relative. It's the same grievances all around, you know,
• 59:01
  Speaker 7: regardless of substance.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's we got a lot of work too. Now, Yeah,
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: when did you start rapping?
• 59:16
  Speaker 7: I was always musically inclined as a as a kid,
• 59:19
  Speaker 7: I would write and uh. Then I started getting into
• 59:23
  Speaker 7: music around twelve and thirteen, and then I started taking
• 59:28
  Speaker 7: it serious, probably when I.
• 59:32
  Speaker 5: Was sixteen to nineteen.
• 59:35
  Speaker 7: And then that's when I learned that I wanted to
• 59:39
  Speaker 7: teach myself how to do it all start to finish.
• 59:42
  Speaker 7: So that's when I started building the studio and diving
• 59:46
  Speaker 7: deeper and deeper and deeper, and the learning never stops
• 59:48
  Speaker 7: after that.
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: Where are you hoping to take this.
• 59:58
  Speaker 5: Pretty much wherever.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 7: You know, I have no no fixated goal, and as
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 7: an end result, just the connections. And I'd love to
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 7: make music for the people that felt misunderstood their whole
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 7: life too, because I was always misunderstood.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: I have fourse hissters.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 7: I'm the only boy, so I was the black cheep,
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 7: the last one to be heard. But when I started
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 7: making music, you know, they wanted to listen to it,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 7: like my family, and now they understand things that they didn't.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: I gotta tell you, man, I sat and watched you.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: I watched you like a hawk. I watched the way
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: you interacted with the crowd, the message that was in
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: your lyrics, and it was really powerful. Man.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 5: Thank you.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: We hope the best for you. You're already doing great things.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: You got a beautiful family, You've got an incredible life
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: in front of you. And I know Vinnie wants to
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: thank you for being there.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, definitely, thank you that so many people thought
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: he was amazing.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I appreciate it.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: I appreciate it too.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 7: Thank you for letting giving me the opportunity to come
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 7: and be a part of everything.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: And you're going to be part of the Music Is
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: Life Fest. This weekend. Am I right, yes, Bellows Falls?
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: Can you tell us any more about that?
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: So it's this weekend there, there's camping there.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 7: It's a big open field and I'm trying to think
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 7: because it's a it's a little different dynamic than it
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 7: was at the last show that he had put on
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 7: because there's family activities from volleyball to basketball to water sports. Yeah,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 7: so it's not just a music oriented like it's all
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 7: aspects for kids, adults and all different types of personalities.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got to be eighteen plus camp unless you're
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: with a parent. No outside alcohol I'm seeing here. But
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: it's open to all ages, which I think is amazing.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 2: You guys have such a great message. You're gonna hear
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: a couple of f pomps that are dropped. I mean,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: my god, but I mean, you know, uh, that's just
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: part of that's just part of the all of the art,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: that's part of the culture. What you guys are doing
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: is incredible, man. And you're again the message behind your
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 2: lyrics is what is so so incredible? You guys are artists.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: It is beautiful to hear what it is. And I
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 2: say artists, but in some ways, let me say this, Vinny.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 8: These guys are preachers, yeah, and they're they're basically contract
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 8: concentrating on the younger crowd for the most part.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: And that's another level of you're killing the market.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: And you guys are doing that. Man, that's what we
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: need to do. Brother. You know that that there's a
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: market here in Vermont for drugs, and Springfield knows it,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: so does Hartford, Sods Albany, so does New York. We
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: have to do better. We have to make Vermont not
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: the place to buy and sell.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: Yep. And if you change the narrative early, then there
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: won't be no narrative done. Road.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, doing great stuff, dude. I hope I get a
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 2: chance to meet you again.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 5: Wow. I hope so too.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 7: It was a blast and all of you guys and
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 7: everyone there, that was one of the most fun surprise
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 7: shows that I've ever done.
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Thanks brother, Thanks for hopping on with us.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 5: This morning, of course, man, thank you for having me.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: Great guy. I just enjoyed that so much. Vinny, this
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: is what this is what we need. We need. We
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: need the youth to be part of this. We don't
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: need a bunch of old guys up on up on
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: a stage trying to put push a message.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: Well, some of the old guys we had on the
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: stage last night. But but but I know what you mean,
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: You know, it's gonna take more than just us older
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: people to be involved.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: Big shout out to Jay, who is your nephew. J R.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: Buco has a pot cast called Let's Hear Your Journey. Yeah,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: he's just starting out, he's just getting going here. We
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: want to start telling people about this and directing folks
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: over to Jay's podcast so that he can get some
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: more followers and get some more traction and start chipping
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: away at this.
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, can you put out his.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: I am right, yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, and he's listening
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: Jay got a hold of me before the event and
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: he was like, I need so many followers to go live.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: And I was like, all right, I'm gonna push this out.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: So I pushed it out to a bunch of people
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: that you know on on my social sites and he
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: got his followers he needed before the event, which made.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 4: Him pretty happy. Yeah.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: But yeah, he's great with the bands too, Rick Reddington
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: and Tough Love. They really liked Jay and did some
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 3: pictures with him after the show, but.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: Couldn't drop his his his page right here, not only
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: in the link, but also I'm going to show everybody
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: what it looks like because he's just a He's just
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: a freaking great guy. I mean, I've I've known him
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: for a long time. Now here it is. My name
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: is Jay r Abusio. I'm from the Randolph area. I'm
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: looking to start a podcast because everybody has a story
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: to tell and deserves to tell it, and I'd love
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: to give people the opportunity for this. So please give
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: him a follow, give him a like, give him a comment,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: a share reaction, and be part of what he has
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: going on right there, super guy. And I think his
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: first guest was Rex Thompson.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I think it was.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 2: It was so he's a good dude. Hopefully we're going
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: to get some some momentum here with what we're doing
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: in Vermont and maybe what we're not doing enough of
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: when it comes to getting a grip on what's happening
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: with drug use in our state. We have this is you,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: and you know it's an uphill.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: I think it's mostly a matter of organization. Currently there's
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: like no one person that's organizing things correctly and you're wrong.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: There is one person and it's you.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm very early and trying to do that.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, but you're the guy.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: It could be.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: I mean no, it's not could be. You are the guy.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: You're the one that's doing this. Mh. You are. And
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: I know it, and so does Josh.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: And I and I think with the right team of people,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: I think we're gonna make a big difference. And and
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: so what I'm trying to do is put the team together.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 3: The and I already have like so far, an amazingly
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: good team of people, but like adding adding the Ryan
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: Aaron and the Rex Thompsons, the world and and all
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: them other ones. More police enforcement, more politicians, you know,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 3: and uh, more musicians and more shows.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 4: I think I think it's gonna work. I really do.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: I think we're gonna get new law in the next session.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: I feel it.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: I hope.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: And and the new law has to have mandatory sentence
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: and and and the judges can't have some loophole.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: Way of getting around it.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: And I think once we have that established here in Vermont,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: that's gonna change a lot on the law enforcement. En
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, if these individuals that are selling these poisons
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: need to be considered a threat to society, so there
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: should be like very strict bailary requirements. And you know,
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 3: if not, no bail and and if we pull that
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 3: person off the street quickly, Uh, it could save lives.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the things we have to do.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You you have a lot of moving parts here.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 2: You have a lot of phone calls that you're you're making,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: plus you're working full time at the same time.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: But between politicians, you're speaking with law enforcement, divided sky
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  Speaker 2: setting up another event soon, another concert. Uh, you got
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  Speaker 2: a ship ton going on, Vinny I do. I'm not
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: sure how you're you're doing it, man, but you are.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: And you had really an incredible event. Thank you for
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: what you did for the couple hundred people that were there.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: Thank you for the pig roast, all the free food,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: thank you for the incredible music that filled so many hearts.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: Great entertainment. To see the Gully Boys up there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, show at the end of the closing.
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  Speaker 2: To see them with both they.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: Fire on the mountain with fire.
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  Speaker 3: I never even I never even heard that song played
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  Speaker 3: that well in my life.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: Honestly, I'm saying the same thing. We're both sitting there shocked.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: We're both sitting there, You and I were sitting next
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: to each other, and I screamed out. Fire in the
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: Mountain started playing it, and it was out of body,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: out of body.
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  Speaker 3: Experience, the best I ever heard the song played in
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 3: my entire life. Better than You're Grateful Dead, I believe
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  Speaker 3: you know what.
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  Speaker 2: You had a big smile on your face the whole time.
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: Part of it was that the music was incredible, but
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: part of it was I think, Vinny and I don't
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: want to speak for you, but it looked like you
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: just felt so much love. You met this incredible woman.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, tell us about that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I'm glad you reminded me about that. Like
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: at our events, there was a lot of special moments,
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: but one of them was a lady. She messaged me
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: before the event. She said, I'm deaf, I can't hear,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: but I don't want to come support your event. And
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: so I'm like, all right, fine, that's great, And she
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: actually showed up and she come up to me, and
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 3: I don't know sign language, so had to kind of
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 3: communicate difficultly and h but I figured out she wanted
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 3: to go down to the river, so I brought her
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: down to the river, and then afterwards, towards the end
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: of the show, when the goalie boys and and and
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: both are got up there. She started dancing and having
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: a great time. And she go up to me and said,
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: I can feel it. She said, I can feel it,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: even though she couldn't hear it, She's like, I can
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: feel it.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: And then they let her go up on the stage.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 2: And play the congass.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was. It was a special moment.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: You saw it, you were there, you like.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: She was so so so happy, and and look at
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: her the vision of her and Jamie dancing together. Oh yeah,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: it's beautiful. I even forgot that part.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 3: Now her and Jamie are friends and she wants to
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 3: come down and go to the river all the time, and.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: Look at that. It's amazing.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah. No, there was a lot of love there last night.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, or Saturday night.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: Or that's what I meant. Yeah, I'm so tired. It
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: still feels like last night to me.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: I'm sure, man, I'm sure. Listen, you compartmentalize all of
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: this stuff. Take one day at a time, one hour
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: at a time. You're doing a great job organizing everything
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 2: and keeping you're juggling a lot of things right now.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 2: You're putting a lot of different hats on your head, Vinnie. Yeah,
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: take it easy, brother.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 4: Well I'm almost there.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: You know, I got I got an event i'd like
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: to do in the future. I'm not not officially breaking
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: it here, but August twenty one is venton al awareness yep, nationwide.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: So nothing's in stone right now, but I would like
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 3: to do something.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: For that, Okay, And if you do, you're gonna let
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: me know. Oh absolutely, and I'll let everybody know.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: Yep.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: All right, so possibly another event similar to what you
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: just did.
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: I'm out nine sure that date's solid, but I have
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: to talk to the different musicians and your chat holl
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: is differend if he's listening out there, check your schedule
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: for that twenty first or twenty second, because the next
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: one's going to be a two day show, okay.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: Wow, you had a lot of artists that we're trying
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: to squeeze in in a ton.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: That's why we got to do two days the next one.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: And if I already have the tent and stage and
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 3: everything set up the next day is logically absolutely we
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: should do.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: One the next day free camping, free parking, free food,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: free music.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 4: It's free everything at our advents. It's because of the economy,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 4: you know. It's wow, it's.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: Not Amazinglyny, We thank you so much. And my buddy
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: Andy just had such a blast, so happy.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Andy was. He had one heck of a
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: time there dancing with all the women.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, he had so much fun. And Rick
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: is Rick has just joined us a Rick Reddington. Oh excellent,
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: he's commented just a second ago. It was a beautiful gathering.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 2: So there's another guy we got to get.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: I would love to get Rick in here.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 3: He in some way he wants to be part of
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: the nonprofit and maybe take some of the weight off
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: of me being a music festival promoter, which I'm not.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, I do it, and I do try to
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 3: do my best, but that's not really my expertise. So
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: but he also hasn't a wonderful idea for after treatment.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: He takes in lots of rescue dogs and and and
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: I think he has an idea. I don't want to
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 3: speak for.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: Him on that, no, but you were telling me this.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: I think he has an idea with the rescue dogs
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: for after treatment or maybe even during treatment, bringing the
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: dogs in.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 4: For people to help cope.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: And I don't think there's a better remedy for anything
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: for any of that planet than a dog.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, nothing can show love more like a
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: doghead nothing.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: No disrespect to the cats listening. I'm just saying, yeah.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 3: So I'm hoping that was another one, you know, like
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: like Ryan and like Rex. You know they that's funny
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: Ryan rec and Rick.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 2: I guess we got thet the covered listen. Rick just
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: said yes, JD, Chad Hollister and I want to do
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: a show. So I didn't really get a chance to
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: chat with Rich. I didn't get a chance to chat
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: with with Rick at all.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 3: He was in a hurry too. He had to do
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: three shows that day. Unreal, and he showed up to
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 3: our event when he's already.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: Booked twice animal.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 4: It's amazing, big art.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: But Rick, one of the things I wanted to say
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: to he is that Chad and I have known each
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: other for a long long time. We've done so many
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: things together. I've promoted him so much. He's been on
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: the air here a gazillion times in the last eight years,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: and I just love the guy and I don't know
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: what else to say. I don't know if he'll be
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 2: able to bring a ten piece band with him like
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: he does with a full horn section. But the guy
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 2: really gets it. Chad really gets it. And if Rick,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: if you can help me threaten Chad, you know, and
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: you can, Rick, you can make up anything you want
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 2: about me to to get Chad there. But we've got
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: to make that happen. I'm only see, I don't see.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: Here's the thing about these crazy musicians. If you don't
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: play a guitar or if we're an instrument, then you're
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: not in the circle. But if you're in the circle,
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: also known as Rick, then you have more clout, You
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: got more leverage.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 4: I think Rick has a pretty big circle.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: Rick has a massive circle. But he's in and Chad
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 2: knows me, he knows. I can't sing. I can't. I
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: can't do anything other than threatening him. But we got
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: to get Chad part of this man.
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's part of building. We're in such early beginning
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: part right now.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: And I'm telling you, I'm telling you right now, Rick,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: if I get one beer in me, I will get
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: on the kungas. I mean one one beer, I will
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: get on the congas and rip it to shreds. Anyway,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: he says, we're in the circle. Thank God. I was
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: hoping that he was going to say that, dude, you're
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 2: kicking ask man, Vinnie, You're just you're doing it. You're
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: doing it. Yeah, all right, Oh, I know you're doing it, dude.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 3: It's we're moving lightning fast. I think in my opinion,
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 3: and I think when you see the growth by the
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 3: end of this year, how big we're going to grow.
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it will be amazing.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, quick note here our community calendar, which is
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• 1:19:58
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• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: Phillips on Wednesday morning here on aired out. But the
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 2: next game for the Mountaineers is Friday, this coming Friday
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: the seventeenth. What else did I want to tell you? Yes,
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: we're gonna be talking an awful lot this week about
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 2: the World Cup, Curryer Park, the food trucks, the farmers market,
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 2: the live music. As we started out this morning saying
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be amazing. It's gonna be a hot day
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 2: on Wednesday with the Rustics are going to be playing
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: on the fifteenth, train Wreck on the twenty second, what else,
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 2: racing under the lights at thunder Road. They're gonna be
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: able to get it in this coming Thursday for sure.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: Whether it looks good. The Lake Moriy Summer concert series,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you're familiar with it. I don't
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: know if Rick is familiar with it. But if you
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: haven't been to the Thursday night concerts at Lake Moriy,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: they're free, you are missing it. And when I say
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: I'm talking concert, I mean it's massive. There's a couple
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: couple thousand people that where they just had the guster
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: was there last Thursday. Okay, man, it is huge, So
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 2: get yourself out on Thursday night. They got food trucks there,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: Bring a blanket, bring a chair if the weather's great,
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: especially you're gonna love it. You're gonna love it. Get
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: on the Lake Mary Facebook page and look at the
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 2: concert listings for every single Thursday night all summer long.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be amazing. I can't wait to get their
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 2: Thursday eighth two meets. They've got their parking Ride in
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: Williston on Friday. They've got their huge car show coming
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: to Thunder Road on the twenty fourth, twenty fifth, and
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: twenty sixth of this month. Carson Rubber, It's gonna be amazing.
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be incredible. You're gonna be seeing the graphic
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: an awful lot on the aired out page here over
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: the next two weeks. Of anything for coming in here, dude, you're,
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: like I said before, you're doing it man.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 4: Thank you doing it, Thank you for having me.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: And and thanks to thanks to Rick Reddington, Bill Temple,
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: all of them both there, the Gully Boys, Patrick Patrick, Sargeant,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: Jacob Green, who are we missing.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 3: All of all of these everybody that's on that list.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: All these guys, so many and and thanks to Jay too.
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: Rick says that he's now a huge fan of Jay.
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: I love that Ja kicks ass man.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 3: All the all the bands love him. That's why, Yeah,
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: that's why he should be part of that.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 2: He is he already is should should be already is.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: May you please remind Vinnie to take care of Vinnie,
• 1:22:58
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