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The Best & Worst of KeyForge in 2025: Wins, Misses, and What Were They Thinking? · Archons Corner

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  Speaker 1: Talk stage, stage talking, walking, all the things that are
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  Speaker 1: stage talking, long age walking.
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  Speaker 2: Alright, what's going on?
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  Speaker 3: Already?
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  Speaker 2: Welcome back. It's twenty twenty six. How is everybody's Christmas?
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  Speaker 2: I should probably introduce everybody first? How but we do that?
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  Speaker 2: It's been like two weeks and I forgot to do everything.
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  Speaker 2: But we have the PhD of key Forge, doctor m Sheep, Hello,
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  Speaker 2: we got the e walkist of Ewoks Walk Junior.
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  Speaker 3: Hello, keyboard community, glad to be back in another year.
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  Speaker 2: And the reason for the season, the draz Core of
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  Speaker 2: the Draz Score, dras Corps. Hey, guys, how's it going?
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  Speaker 2: Oh boy, I just look in the list. The reason
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  Speaker 2: your winter because you're icey. You're like you got ice
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  Speaker 2: in your veins. I don't really know. Ooh, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Ooh sounds dangerous, but holy should get that checked out.
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  Speaker 2: So I just totally looked at this. So we got
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  Speaker 2: lots to go over today. We have the year in review.
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  Speaker 2: Since it's a new year, we'll be looking back at
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. The goods, the bads, the uglies. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. I said top five, bottom five, and JR.
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  Speaker 2: Put twenty seven things in each list. Top five. There's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of this is why I said two episodes,
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  Speaker 2: because I do top five meant top fifteen. But it's okay.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, Wookie stopped talking and we're fine. But guess what
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  Speaker 5: five times four people's twenty okay, so stop talking, move
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  Speaker 5: on with it.
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  Speaker 3: We're good.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I figured we'd all agree most most of them
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  Speaker 4: are like they just didn't fail.
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  Speaker 6: So that made top.
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  Speaker 3: I had to find some positive that's it wasn't.
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  Speaker 2: A total disaster when.
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  Speaker 6: The curve.
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  Speaker 2: We did get a new article coming out this week,
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  Speaker 2: the vision for key Forge in twenty twenty six, which
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  Speaker 2: is a lot of what we talked about during the
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  Speaker 2: was it was it the state of key Forge for
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  Speaker 2: uh Peterson? Is that where we did all this? We actually,
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  Speaker 2: guys are hearing something in the background, right, No, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: well you're probably on the recording hearing it. I bought
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  Speaker 2: a three D printer, okay, I made the terrible decision
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  Speaker 2: to put it right next to my desk. My bad. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: actually just finished printing. But anyways, go ahead, do you
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  Speaker 2: watch what's popping out? I don't know, let me look.
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  Speaker 2: Hold on.
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  Speaker 6: Doesn't even know when it's printing.
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  Speaker 2: My wife, So my wife decided that. Uh, I don't
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  Speaker 2: have to buy her flowers anymore. I can just print flowers.
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  Speaker 2: They're flowers. Oh so these ones will never die and
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  Speaker 2: I could use them year after year, spray and perfume
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  Speaker 2: on them. You're good to go, that's right, absolutely, But
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  Speaker 2: go ahead. Do you walk your up?
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  Speaker 5: I see, I see, I see that you had a
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  Speaker 5: wonderful Christmas? Then drum long story shorts. Oh yeah, I forgot.
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  Speaker 5: How is everybody's Christmas holiday season?
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  Speaker 2: Good holidays?
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  Speaker 4: The holidays themselves were real nice. You know, visited my
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  Speaker 4: wife's family, visited my family. I think the second we
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  Speaker 4: got home from visiting my family, my wife booked us
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  Speaker 4: a trip to Florida next Christmas.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, hell, no, not do that again.
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  Speaker 4: So we're going to key West next Christmas.
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  Speaker 2: Nice.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I will tell you that going somewhere warm is
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  Speaker 5: very enjoyable for the holidays. Just being on a beach,
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  Speaker 5: being water is It's very rejuvenating and it is less
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  Speaker 5: stressful than being around some families.
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  Speaker 3: Some other families are great. I had a wonderful Christmas. Boys,
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  Speaker 3: I did.
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  Speaker 6: Days of ten to twelve hours of board gaming in
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  Speaker 6: between Christmas. Nicer, that was pretty.
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  Speaker 4: Excellently what was the best the board game you played?
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  Speaker 3: He likes Van not that much.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, I do like Vantage quite a bit.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't tried that one yet.
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  Speaker 5: I get like a weekly up. I get a daily
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  Speaker 5: update for a couple of days because I lent him
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  Speaker 5: my copy, and he's like.
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  Speaker 2: This is what I did. This is what I did.
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  Speaker 6: I died today and even with the like the bonus
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  Speaker 6: like stay alive thing, I still died.
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  Speaker 4: I got uh for Christmas, I got Shackleton Base.
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  Speaker 3: Like that that's actually to be really good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's very good.
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  Speaker 2: It lives up to the hype. It's a top match,
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  Speaker 2: top well.
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  Speaker 3: I was very blessed. Uh.
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  Speaker 5: The longest break for my teaching career was two weeks,
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  Speaker 5: and that was his best. So I went down to
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  Speaker 5: beautiful Ruba with my family and there were eleven of
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  Speaker 5: us in my family for my brother's sister, mom, dad,
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  Speaker 5: my brother in law, their kids, and my whole family.
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  Speaker 5: But my family is my individual. Tara Eving memory are amazing.
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  Speaker 5: We loved hanging out on the beach, being able to
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  Speaker 5: go ahead and just be in the water. It was
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  Speaker 5: a great time and we got out before because Aruba
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  Speaker 5: is only six miles away. From Venezuela, so before the
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  Speaker 5: airspace closed, so that was good. And then I was
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  Speaker 5: able to play some board games with Sheep and some others.
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  Speaker 3: I played some.
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  Speaker 5: Whirlie ball, which I rocked their socks. It was a great, great,
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  Speaker 5: great break, very very exciting.
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  Speaker 2: Nice. So everybody had a good holiday season. Yes, it
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  Speaker 2: sounds like so now we're back to the grind one
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  Speaker 2: day at all.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, off well with a bang, and by bang, I
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  Speaker 4: mean all my stuff exploding and just working all crazy
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  Speaker 4: number of hours, which is weird.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm averaging like twenty hours a week right now
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  Speaker 6: of actual work.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of it got almost I've got almost that
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  Speaker 4: much each day of this week.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So it sounds almost like you and I have
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  Speaker 2: swapped roles this year, and I'm not gonna lie to you.
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  Speaker 2: I hope it continues.
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  Speaker 4: I hope it's been rough. I hoping that I didn't
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  Speaker 4: have to work today, So that's a good sign.
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  Speaker 2: It's a good sign I have gotten it more time
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  Speaker 2: off in twenty twenty six. I feel that I have
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  Speaker 2: gotten in all of twenty twenty five. How many days
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  Speaker 2: is that? Well, at least I'm now getting two days
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  Speaker 2: a week, so they're unfortunately. No, you're right. So I
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  Speaker 2: mean I was working six to seven days a week
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  Speaker 2: last year pretty consistently, and now I at least get
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  Speaker 2: my two days off a week. So like, that's like
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  Speaker 2: a breath of fresh air. You have no idea, very
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  Speaker 2: very happy. So mm hmmm, I'm not gonna lie. I
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  Speaker 2: hope it continues, Drascar, I hope yours ends, and I
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  Speaker 2: hope we don't switch again. So two, it'll pass, right,
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  Speaker 2: everything does. Everything passes. But we got a new article
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  Speaker 2: from Josh this week.
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  Speaker 5: All right, hold on real quick, okay, So while we
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  Speaker 5: were away we got actually three articles, Willkie. There were
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  Speaker 5: two on the thirtieth, How Legends are for and keyboards Recap,
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  Speaker 5: so celebration recap.
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  Speaker 3: We finally got it before the new year. Way to go, gig.
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  Speaker 3: You made it in time. I appreciate that. The one
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  Speaker 3: that does matter?
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  Speaker 2: What wait, hold on, hold on late? What is it?
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  Speaker 2: What is what is in Like? How do we determine
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  Speaker 2: what's an in time type deal?
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  Speaker 5: Well, I'm now putting in time in reference to within
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  Speaker 5: the next calendar year. So like give enough that should
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  Speaker 5: that should give enough of grace to gg.
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  Speaker 2: So what do we have a vault? The very first
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  Speaker 2: vault this year. As long as they release it by
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  Speaker 2: the release the information by the end of twenty twenty six,
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  Speaker 2: that's fine.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, sid Sidney tried to play a power game to
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  Speaker 6: get them to release information early. What anybody listened to
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  Speaker 6: the last out from future Self now yet no reading.
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  Speaker 6: Sidney said she was going to pay for a person's
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  Speaker 6: travel to a vault, up to five people. Right, But
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  Speaker 6: each week that we don't get dates for a vault,
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  Speaker 6: one of those potential free transportations goes away, and then.
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  Speaker 4: Like two days later, hold on as says, uh, you'll
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  Speaker 4: get dates at some time in February.
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  Speaker 6: So basically nobody, nobody's getting a free ride.
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  Speaker 2: What what did what did you say we were going
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  Speaker 2: to release a dress car February thirty never or what
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  Speaker 2: was it? Yeah? Thirty first, that is what I said.
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  Speaker 2: Is it a leap year this year? I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: so you might want to say that just in case
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  Speaker 2: it is a leap year, but it is not. I
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  Speaker 2: just looked, but we did get we did get the
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  Speaker 2: uh get the article kind of outlining the year, and
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  Speaker 2: it looks, weirdly enough, like the same from last year.
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  Speaker 6: Well, I mean I changed it releases are back on
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  Speaker 6: the schedule. It'll be interesting to see if they do
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  Speaker 6: any changes with the pre release to make it maybe
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  Speaker 6: more interesting for law long term players. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 6: still playing key Fords.
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  Speaker 2: It's fine, right, it's still playing key Ford like I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, just still with game found like okay.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it wasn't worth going to worlds for prizes. Why
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  Speaker 6: would you think that the prelease would have.
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  Speaker 4: Prices insidey three and you're gonna play some key Fords,
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  Speaker 4: It's gonna be fun.
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  Speaker 2: Inside each pre release kid is a twenty twenty three
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  Speaker 2: Vault Master back. Those are the special one twenty four.
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  Speaker 6: I guess one way to do it would be to
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  Speaker 6: either guarantee every prelease pack either had a foil or
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  Speaker 6: an art in it, MM, one of the you know,
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  Speaker 6: one of the dude like Chase. They could guarantee it
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  Speaker 6: in the pre release, you know, by guaranteed to get
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  Speaker 6: one of the full art taxes.
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  Speaker 2: That would be worth it, yeah something.
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  Speaker 6: I mean that's something that I don't know how easy
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  Speaker 6: that'd be for packaging and all that crap, but it
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  Speaker 6: shouldn't them ridiculous amounts of extra money.
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  Speaker 2: And don't worry, they will find a way to screw
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  Speaker 2: it up. Yeah, so someone will have to get get
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  Speaker 2: on the support line, to which may or may not
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  Speaker 2: be answered.
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  Speaker 3: So I mean you're you're talking here.
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  Speaker 5: In the first two articles that were released, basically they
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  Speaker 5: just go through stats from the last chance qualifier decks
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  Speaker 5: of the Yeah we're noting those, No, not at all,
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  Speaker 5: But then the recap goes ahead with Okay, what actually happened.
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  Speaker 5: It's still nice to see, but if you haven't taken
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  Speaker 5: a peek read it, kind of go through it. I
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  Speaker 5: think what does matters what you guys are talking about.
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  Speaker 5: For the article that was released essentially on Friday, So yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I know that some Well, I wasn't feeling one hundred
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  Speaker 5: percent on Thursday, and sleeping for thirteen hours was actually a.
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  Speaker 3: Really good choice.
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  Speaker 5: So that gave us a little bit more time because
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  Speaker 5: we got the article on Friday. But it's interesting to
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  Speaker 5: see what local play or organized play is for the
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  Speaker 5: next upcoming year.
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  Speaker 6: I got one event a quarter. Essentially, we'll be doing great.
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  Speaker 6: We get storre Champs, then we get pre released, then
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  Speaker 6: we get storyline, then maybe second pre release.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, second another pre release.
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  Speaker 5: In there, and supposedly didn't sheep you can actually probably
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  Speaker 5: look at this. But starting next week you can pre
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  Speaker 5: order your store your twenty twenty six store Championship kits.
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  Speaker 6: Oh that's the other one. There's the new new Player Kit.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah's you.
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  Speaker 6: We'll see if those become available.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, well, I mean it's still it's still a week out.
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  Speaker 3: But I.
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  Speaker 5: The new player kit did not like we're all experienced
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  Speaker 5: players at our local, so it did not bring anyone
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  Speaker 5: out like the Mars event did the first year.
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  Speaker 2: You know what, I was just looking at this. There's
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  Speaker 2: no storyline event done here? Yeah, there is no. No,
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  Speaker 2: there's a special event, yes.
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  Speaker 3: Special event. Yeah, okay, and it is listed up above
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  Speaker 3: for it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, okay, never mind, I guess there is one.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, we minded never next.
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  Speaker 2: Next, I'm down. What else you got? Do you walk
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  Speaker 2: from the article? Anything? And I mean we we've kind
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  Speaker 2: of gone our road through this already. Yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: because you know, we got this in the in the uh,
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  Speaker 2: in the.
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  Speaker 6: It's just gonna be interesting that how long between when
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  Speaker 6: pre release kits go for sale and when we're supposed
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  Speaker 6: to run the pre release that'll be that'll be the
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  Speaker 6: interesting thing to see, right because like they got to
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  Speaker 6: be put up for sale and able to be processed
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  Speaker 6: and shipped and delivered to stores at the right time.
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  Speaker 6: And I mean that hasn't worked well with any of
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  Speaker 6: our other kids lately. So hopefully hopefully they work out
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  Speaker 6: that timing to where it's not you have three days
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  Speaker 6: to order these.
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  Speaker 2: Oops they're all sold out?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah right, I miss, I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I was thinking about this as I was reading the article.
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  Speaker 5: This one definitely jumped out at me. This bothers me.
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  Speaker 5: The pre release event timing is just weird with key
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  Speaker 5: forge because of the community size being small. Most people
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  Speaker 5: frankly have gone ahead and purchased decks and game found
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  Speaker 5: or like, we have draconian measures so we've already played
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  Speaker 5: it at KFC.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't know about you guys.
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  Speaker 5: But like the hype for local pre release is really
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  Speaker 5: missing compared to sheep.
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  Speaker 2: Why are you not shushing him? You just shushed me.
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  Speaker 2: I literally just said the same thing, and you're like,
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  Speaker 2: shut up, dummy, play key form. Shush wiki.
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  Speaker 6: You're saying, you were saying that there's no value in
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  Speaker 6: doing it. JR. Was saying he's not exciting.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and and and so I don't know, is it
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  Speaker 5: really that big of a deal. If we have a
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  Speaker 5: pre release event before the game found decks get to there,
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  Speaker 5: we know there.
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  Speaker 6: Is a bunch of people that don't show up to
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  Speaker 6: KFC and that will be the first time they're playing
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  Speaker 6: with their own Sleepy Dragon's decks. It's gonna I mean,
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  Speaker 6: it's the first time you're gonna play Sleepy Dragons sealed
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  Speaker 6: in a store, right, That's that's what the event is.
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  Speaker 6: But don't but whatever.
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  Speaker 5: But it misses the hype.
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  Speaker 6: People because because anything that's released by game found directly
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  Speaker 6: to consumers, there is no hype for the stores. It's
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  Speaker 6: it's a thrashold disaster because it's like, you know, if
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  Speaker 6: you pre order through the store, you're probably gonna get
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  Speaker 6: it later then you're gonna get it if you ordered
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  Speaker 6: it direct, that's not what it's about. You're you're not
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  Speaker 6: going to ever get that hype on a pre release
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  Speaker 6: in a game where you get stuff directly from the
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  Speaker 6: come benny even earlier. Often it's just and that's just
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  Speaker 6: the first time the store can sell stuff. So they
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  Speaker 6: got to put something in the pre release to make
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  Speaker 6: it a little enticing.
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  Speaker 5: The other games that I played from Star Wars Minis
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  Speaker 5: to Mach Warrior, like, those were just weekends that I
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  Speaker 5: looked forward to.
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  Speaker 3: I was so excited we would play.
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  Speaker 6: But they were actually pre releases. They're not actually pre
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  Speaker 6: releases in this game, their first I know, commercial.
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  Speaker 5: Release, I know, but I miss I missed that hype
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  Speaker 5: as I was reading the article. That's what stood out
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  Speaker 5: to me is because of Game Found, and Game Found
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  Speaker 5: really wasn't a major entity when I was playing the
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  Speaker 5: other games, so it's just a different time period.
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  Speaker 3: But I miss I miss.
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  Speaker 5: Just the the hype of being able to go ahead
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  Speaker 5: and look at cards for the first time, try it out,
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  Speaker 5: see it, have fun, cracking some decks and yeah it's there.
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  Speaker 5: But having players who already have it in their hands
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  Speaker 5: from Game Found really takes away a lot of the fun.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know about you guys, It just it was something.
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  Speaker 5: As I was reading the article, I was like, that's
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  Speaker 5: a that's a real bummer because I missed those days.
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  Speaker 2: That was my point I created to make, But clearly
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  Speaker 2: something got misconstrued somewhere along the way. Is it's not
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  Speaker 2: really a pre release.
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  Speaker 6: Those aren't the words you used.
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  Speaker 2: What words did I use? I'm going to go back
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  Speaker 2: and Listen, you.
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  Speaker 6: You were directly saying that there was no You're not
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  Speaker 6: you were you were commenting on that you get nothing
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  Speaker 6: for doing it.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I'll say yes, No, My point was exactly what
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  Speaker 2: ewok said, Like, is there a reason for doing a
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  Speaker 2: pre release when it's is it really a pre release?
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  Speaker 2: When there are.
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  Speaker 6: A handful of people it will be the first time
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  Speaker 6: for them. You're just we're just not that group, right,
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  Speaker 6: but they're they're you know, like in theory, that's gonna
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  Speaker 6: be the first time that Pete and mister perfect.
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  Speaker 2: No, because they'll have their game. Yeah, maybe, I mean probably.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying, is like with the game Found. Now,
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  Speaker 2: if this came out pregame Found Okay, now it's a
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  Speaker 2: pre release, but it's not I.
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  Speaker 6: Mean to me, it's still just the first sealed tournament
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  Speaker 6: of the thing. That's great.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and we do we just use it as an
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  Speaker 4: excuse to play three decks sealed. I mean that's what
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: we do, right, like because every other week is kind
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: of one deck sealed right where it's like play one deck,
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: but if you really hate it, just open another one.
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  Speaker 4: But this is more like no, no, you open the
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  Speaker 4: three decks and you pick one and you have to
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: stick with it. So it's like a little more Rigoro.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: Well you can stick with you know, change out within
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: the three. But like you know, we play more serious
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: man in that way we try to get.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: That would be the world right there? The world where
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: like tournament play is three decks sealed and then seal
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: the alliance. That would that would that's really the dream?
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: Right is that not the dream? I feel like that's the.
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: I mean, yes, sealed is the best format. We know that,
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: there's no question about it. I guess my question is, boys,
• 20:25
  Speaker 5: would it actually bother you if the local stores for
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: the one week had an event or any Game Found
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: was able to go ahead and so basically they have
• 20:37
  Speaker 5: it set for their date.
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: And people would be limit people. People get so livid
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: on Game Found if they retail people get it first.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: But I'm saying, I'm blah blah blah.
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: But wouldn't that not publish you to a store if
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: it was for one If it was for one weekend,
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: you could hear here you have it for basically the
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: one week.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: You're running it during the week or you're running it
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: on the weekday.
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: Well sure, but I think you're.
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: Again, it's a bad idea, but I think they can't.
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: They can't poison their Game Found Well because that's where
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: they make enough money to keep printing stuff. I really
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: think the biggest advantage of this pre release pre release
• 21:18
  Speaker 6: is that the store and theory can get a count
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: on head and know they're going to sell three decks
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: to every one of those people on one day. You
• 21:25
  Speaker 6: pay money for the store. That's it. That's what the
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: pre release is for. Make some money for the store.
• 21:30
  Speaker 6: It's the first it's the first event of the sets.
• 21:32
  Speaker 6: After that you can go back to your You know,
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: people are bringing their decks from home or whatever they're doing,
• 21:39
  Speaker 6: but yeah, you're buying three. You know, you got to
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: go to your store and at least give them some
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: money once this year.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: It is it? Is it? You said it would be
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: that big a deal, like really really, like if it
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: twice a year, I don't think there you're there twice
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: a year. The store is allowed now an event, that
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: is some people are allowed to buy it before you
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: get your Game Found pledge.
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: I mean, and it may come out, it may come
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: out seriously another four weeks later or three weeks later,
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: but that should give enough time.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: For all the I don't know. I just I'm telling you.
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: I know, I know, I know they're going to be
• 22:20
  Speaker 6: livid about it.
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah they would, but it just the store needs just
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: that one insteadive anyway, the stores will I'll be buying it. Yeah,
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: the stores will have their special event. It was listeninger
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: special event. Woo you talked earlier but late August and
• 22:40
  Speaker 5: then you play through September that was listed just under
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: different wording. I what do you guys think April to
• 22:48
  Speaker 5: September for US vaults? No, no, the US vaults Yeah,
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: so sorry, vaults will be April to September. But the
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: US vaults will be getting in May. You are correct,
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: and that is important.
• 23:01
  Speaker 6: I still don't I mean what, maybe maybe Riku could
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: have his stuff scheduled and run early. I just don't
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: see anybody else having their stuff together to do it.
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: Everybody else always seems to be last minute, and they're
• 23:15
  Speaker 6: announcing their vault less than a month before it's supposed
• 23:17
  Speaker 6: to be running late in the year.
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: I mean, I'll throw myself out there, but the announcement
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: of the twenty twenty six vaults is a huge, huge
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: bummer to me.
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Like this especially still not even coming.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Up because they.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Well correct.
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: What I'm saying is like this is it's unacceptable. At
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: this point, I have plans for most of June, July
• 23:41
  Speaker 5: is already.
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: Started to fill out.
• 23:42
  Speaker 6: June's done.
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: These dates and locations need to frankly be shared by KFC,
• 23:49
  Speaker 5: like when KFC finishes, tell the players where it is.
• 23:53
  Speaker 5: Announcing in February is just so unacceptable in my opinion,
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: like we are missing out on events and what can
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: act happen We have a small enough player base already
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: announce the events that are there. Hey, KFC, if you're
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: going to change, if you're going to change a location
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: or two out of what the US is, No, no,
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: no no. But I'm saying, if you're going to change,
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: just like here's one, or if you're repeating any of
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: the events that we went to last year in twenty
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: twenty five, say here's where we're going again. I was
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: talking to Tear about this. She said, why don't you just,
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: like I don't know, build some hype and you can
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: release one at a time if you're not going to
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: release them initially. But oh, here this week, we're going
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: to tell you that this East Goes Vaults is coming
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: back or this vaults is coming back in Rossa whatever
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: it is them.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: But you don't know the like when there.
• 24:48
  Speaker 6: But I'm saying, hype it up juggling and they don't
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: want to change anything after announcement. I've done that and
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: that doesn't go well.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: But if you, if we have.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: Go back into your sleuth mode, go and start calling
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: these hotels and ask them about booking their hotel blocks.
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: And somebody I put that suggestion out. Somebody did that.
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: I know the results, but it's being released elsewhere. So
• 25:16
  Speaker 6: that's not for us to spoil.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Because I didn't. Oh what saying is Sydney did that,
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: So listen to.
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: Sydney did the work, so Sydney gets to spoil it. Yeah,
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: Like if you want any real key Ford inmporation anymore,
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: go listen to Sydney.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: You want to hear some some guy's bitch and mode
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: hang around. That's that's I mean, that's just what we're
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: known for.
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: We're the old girl peyo, mean, I get it. I
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: just I don't know. I think that I.
• 25:51
  Speaker 6: Still make things happen, it's just not here.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I don't know.
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: I just I look at KFC boys and there's such
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: hype at that point, you're finishing the year, you have
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: your World champions. Before we leave, we should be told
• 26:07
  Speaker 5: here's here's the locations and here's the dates. If you
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: don't have all of them, let's say you have three
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: of them or two of them. You say, here's the
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: two that we have. They're not changing. So like that
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: argument of that they could change. No, they're set. You're
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: going here, we will have two together.
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: They're set. We don't know anything.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Why would why would it not be set?
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: But that life hold on, here's the class, Yes, why
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: would it? See? This is how they because.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Because you're running at every single.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Every thing those galaxies is by the seat of their pants.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: You know this. Nothing has changed since twenty twenty two.
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: They might not even have decided they were running Vault
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: tours until like while they were writing the the announcements
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: for KFC and they're like, yeah, we did did nwfl'll run,
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: so put it in there. We'll do them.
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: That.
• 27:02
  Speaker 6: That was one of the like in red on the PowerPoint,
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: things like happening not happening, happening not happening still coin.
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: So so here's the thing for any anywhere, Hold on
• 27:14
  Speaker 5: one second, dress for any work, they ask you, what
• 27:17
  Speaker 5: is happening, what's your five year outlook, what's your ten
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: year outlook? So here we are not even one year
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: out that we can go ahead and say, you know
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: what we're gonna run.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: This company doesn't know if they're going to be around
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty seven.
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: They have that is not We don't even do a
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: one week outlook at my job. We're always on the scramble.
• 27:38
  Speaker 5: You're telling me, sheep that you don't know what your
• 27:42
  Speaker 5: section of your work is going to look like. I
• 27:44
  Speaker 5: guarantee someone in your company has an understanding of what
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: your goal is.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: That's the whole trajectory.
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: You don't just fly every single day like I don't
• 27:54
  Speaker 5: believe that.
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: You've set that stuff and then you change it constantly
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: because some metric or some garbage change and you said,
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: well that targets are realistic, so we're gonna change it.
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: Hey, the numbers were really good in Baltimore. We've loved
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: working with you. Would you have a date next year
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: that we could set up? Oh you mean we just
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: finished the vault this weekend? Yeah, well next year about
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: this time? Work great, let's tentatively pencil this in we'll
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: get the contract to you around the beginning of November.
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: You're you're assuming going to know that stuff? You just
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: I mean like, I mean, I I'm I'm with Wookie,
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: I'm I don't. I don't think they're set to schedule.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: I I don't think that they have their ship together
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: enough to even tell ee.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: I don't like, honestly, I don't like.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: I don't think they're working on a two year time horizon.
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: They're working on I don't six month time horizons. Months.
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: I think it's quarterby.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: I think it's I think I think some things are
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: six months out, some things are a year out. But
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: there are some things that they're just like even see that.
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: In the language for whatever whatever set fallows d M
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: even the language, and that is like, hope we can
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: put it out next year. But yeah, we'll see.
• 29:13
  Speaker 7: What happens estimated regardless, I'm I will say that my
• 29:19
  Speaker 7: summer is mostly filled up at this point, full month,
• 29:23
  Speaker 7: a month and a half, and we're losing people who
• 29:26
  Speaker 7: are committed in this game to going to events.
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: It's sad.
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: I don't think waiting until February is a good choice
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: for most people so that committed.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: When did they release last year? It wasn't a February
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: last year that they released. It was kind of late
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: again last Yeah, I mean this is this is just
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: last year.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: I will look that up. I'll look up.
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: This is why we're not even going to start our
• 29:54
  Speaker 6: top ten list because time.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Well, according according to mister chair, were six.
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: And a half.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: Again, some of these are some of these things are.
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: But we got about the same things we bitched about
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: last year.
• 30:11
  Speaker 5: Well, I disagree. I think that this this is the
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: article that's here.
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: The question, the question market we had last year.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, do we complain? Says do we just lower our expectations? Expectations?
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: I've lowered my expectations. I'm just trying to get you
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: guys to join me.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: National Championship still out. Yes, it's where Boults, aren't.
• 30:36
  Speaker 5: I think that we could just have it all as
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: one word phrase instead of call it nationals, called champions
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: colle vaults. I don't care, but they're essentially very similar
• 30:44
  Speaker 5: in my opinion. Gen Con is returning, gen Con is returning,
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: and and uh they listed this really weird twenty twenty
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: six World Championships. World Championships are Pinnacle Capstone ways to
• 30:59
  Speaker 5: be able to participation is contingent on a World Championship invite,
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: and they list seven of the ways, But boys, what
• 31:08
  Speaker 5: is what is six? Any alternative method? Ghost Galaxy designates
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: his World Championship qualifying including one off events.
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: What so what? Wow?
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: So this is where everybody pick up your phone, dial
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: Christian T. Peterson that Necho should be qualifying. Yeah, yeah,
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: dial that yep, and then.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Like, hey, steamy time, press one.
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: Janet's voice.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Will you join me in jazz go for a steamy time?
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: Press words?
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: Yes, I'm in for this, speaking of a Stevie time
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: I did over Christmas, Like I finally my computer was
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: like old and dying, so I finally got a new
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: computer so I can actually play games again. So I
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: started playing steampunk. There's some steamy times in steam, song Punk, Cyberpunk,
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: cyber twenty seven. That's what I'm trying to say. Cyber
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: some steamy time and cyberpunk is there.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: No interesting? All right?
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: But Necho that go is important. Necho's big, Necho's coming,
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: so Maybecho's.
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: The only thing that it's We got Necho and we
• 32:34
  Speaker 6: got World. I have them both in my calendar. So
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: those two things will happen. Everything else may not appen.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Happen.
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: Yep, Necho is January thirty first through February first. It's
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: that weekend. Got we got a whole bunch of folks.
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: Folks I would be missing the annual Hey Dudes flots
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: party coming in. Folks are flying into Philly on front.
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: We're gonna hang out Friday night. We're gonna play some
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: key Forde Saturday Sunday, then probably play some board games,
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: play more games on Monday at Consad drascoors As until
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: folks fly out.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: So it should be.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: Should be a ton of fun. I'm really looking forward
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: to it, all right, power.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Party, So go to Necho, play some games, play some
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: key Forge, do some things. It'll be a good time,
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: all right. Moving in, do we want to start with
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: the worst or the best?
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: The worst? We can try to end on positivity the world.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Okay, we'll add in a positive manner. So I'm gonna
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: go off for Sheep's list.
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: This is bananas here, or you could just use our
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: ac show notes. So we've already covered two of those, right,
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: But okay, so move the worst.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Moving the vault to our dinner to Wednesday night. I
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: don't know if that was the worst worst.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: It wasn't good.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: It made Sydney's party really good.
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it was naw, that was fine. I
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: don't know who put this in here.
• 34:11
  Speaker 5: That I did, because not everyone can make it, and
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: some of the people who've actually qualified, who had that
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: coming to them, they just oh, hey, it doesn't work
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: for us, so we're just gonna move it even earlier,
• 34:21
  Speaker 5: Like the chance for people to be able to leave work.
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: You're already missing Thursday and Friday and then or some
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: on the back end on Monday. Like, not everyone can
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: take a full week off of for this event. Like
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: that is something that has to be kept in mind.
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: I think that I have to stick up for some
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: of the Vault Warriors who actually qualified, who didn't get
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: to enjoy their their meal and their dinner. Yes, Sydney
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: has been runing to great events, but that is something
• 34:46
  Speaker 5: that's something that could be done better.
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: You know, it's it's closer and closer to popping from
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: my pin and my free drink and head right back
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: out next year. Well, unless the restaurant improves.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what is that place called?
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: I mean the.
• 35:07
  Speaker 6: Foods the foods adequate, but like there's nothing.
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: It's just like, well, again, I think that it's not
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: just to connect with the GG staff.
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: I think that there should be some more information us insiders.
• 35:23
  Speaker 5: You should get some informations like be able to talk
• 35:27
  Speaker 5: to people about the game in a meaningful way of Well,
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: but no, and again I don't.
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: I'm not there because I'm a big deuce. So apparently
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: I haven't gotten out of that.
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: But they're not going to give up any special information
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: that they weren't already planning and giving up.
• 35:44
  Speaker 5: But these are the people who've again invested so much
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: time and done very well. They're there are a number
• 35:50
  Speaker 5: of individuals have actually put cards.
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: In, we got game, food, a drink in a pin
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: like that's what you guys are doing? Good.
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I value people in a different manner. So again
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: I'm just saying the chance to move it to Wednesday
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: night is even bigger kick in the junk.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: So for me, it was on the worst and that's
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: why I had it.
• 36:06
  Speaker 6: One of my others was that I don't know because
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: if it's on a Thursday or a Friday or a Saturday,
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: then I have to skip out on the stuff that
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: everybody's there for so it's like it's just there's no
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: I don't think there's any great answer for it. What
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: I want I want a nicely catered lunch on World's Day.
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: That's all that I want to be.
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: Like, dude, you guys have won. You don't have to
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: go anywhere, you don't have to do anythwhere to bring in
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: some really nice food at lunch. So when it's lunchtime,
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: come over here, world champions. Let all the plubs watch
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: you eat fancy food and uh and then just go
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: on with your day. That's that's all. That would be
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: fine by.
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: Me, which actually would be pretty easy with one of
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: the back rooms and that you guys could go in there.
• 36:51
  Speaker 6: Oh no, I want it right there where you all
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: get to watch meat.
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: Well, that's just but I'm gonna go ahead and yeah it's.
• 36:59
  Speaker 6: The glass, But I want to I want to be
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: up on the stage. I want you all to be
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: a little bit lower than me, and I just want
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: you to know.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Would you like me to down to you too?
• 37:10
  Speaker 6: Sarah?
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Is that is that?
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: Actually?
• 37:12
  Speaker 7: Yes?
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: If you would then serve the food, it.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Would be better.
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: Oh my god, would you would you like all the
• 37:18
  Speaker 5: second places to just come and serve it to you.
• 37:20
  Speaker 6: Is that what you be looking for, just the Minnesota deuce.
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: Well, I would gladly go ahead and serve you because
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: I believe that's important to be able to serve others.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: So I'm I'm fine with this.
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: You'd be like barking around off stage, I can throw
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: you scraped.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: I would push it back.
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: But I will say on my since since this moving
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: border dinner was really my issue that I had as
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: one of the worst, I also had the pre release
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: event timing, I just I think that it conflicts and
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: it really takes away from the prelease kind of having
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: fun because of game found KFC and we also talked
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: about the vaults, so those were mine of them that
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: were there.
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Well, I will give until Fabar is there. I will
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: give you certain darkness being how could the.
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: Vaults be on the worst of twenty twenty five that
• 38:12
  Speaker 6: happened in twenty twenty six.
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: The announcement of the twenty twenty six vaults, because it
• 38:16
  Speaker 5: didn't happen in twenty twenty five.
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: That's mo Yeah, that's the worst for next year. Yeah, okay,
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: I will.
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: I will reat it from twenty twenty five because the
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: faults weren't announced for this year until late.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean that weren't announced last year till lady either.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: But I will give you distribution of certain That's what
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, Wikie, okay, sweet, Yeah, we got that out
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: of the way.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: Let's move on.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: Distribution of Certain Darkness was honky tonk dog water. That
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: was terrible, like trying to hustle to announce.
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: Some short short window to open it then immediately sold out,
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: which they.
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: Then did at reprinting, but it came, it came in
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: time to use it. But it was just yeah, that
• 39:08
  Speaker 6: was that was real weird. And then I don't know,
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: I mean, like, yeah, the whole release and dealing with
• 39:15
  Speaker 6: that was was not good. And my just my fear
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: is because then after that, I feel like a similar
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: thing happened with the game Found for Draconian Measures and Stores,
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: which was previously you could always pledge several up through
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: like the end of the Pledge Manager, you could do
• 39:35
  Speaker 6: your store pledge, but if you didn't do your store
• 39:38
  Speaker 6: pledge before the game Found closed, you didn't get to
• 39:42
  Speaker 6: do a store pledge. So my store didn't do a
• 39:46
  Speaker 6: store pledge because I didn't get it in on time,
• 39:50
  Speaker 6: so now we get none of the foil specialty things,
• 39:53
  Speaker 6: which all there is is those foil stacks this year.
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: But I don't know, like there announcement timing to the
• 40:01
  Speaker 6: size of the window and the hard cutoff on their
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: stuff has been really bad, and they're there's like, well,
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: we sent out an email. It's like these emails potentially
• 40:11
  Speaker 6: go to the wrong people because they're going to purchasing
• 40:15
  Speaker 6: people at a lot of accounts, because that's the account
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: that's set up to buy from Ghost Galaxies, the retail count.
• 40:20
  Speaker 6: It's some purchasing person's account and they're dealing with paying
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: bills and stuff. They're not reading every every weekly update
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: from Ghost Galaxy, right right, because like you got your
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: weekly update from Ghost Galaxy. Who sells your number seven
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: hundred and second best selling game in your store and
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: that's it. Oh and you're twelve thousands because they got
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: mind Bug or you can or you can read your
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: you know, like Wizards of the Coast one and yeah,
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: it was just like that that window is so small.
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: There's no if you do gret there's no salesmen, right
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: Like a lot of these other companies, you have a
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: salesperson who like if you normally buy stuff from them,
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: and they like, you know, because they're all commission basically
• 41:13
  Speaker 6: go like, hey, you haven't ordered this new thing, buy
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: some stuff so I can make some money. And you go, oh, yeah,
• 41:19
  Speaker 6: I needed to buy that, thanks for you know, catching
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: it because I miss it. But now that's not how
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: GG works. It's it's all on the store to take
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: care of everything.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Hey, So what I'm saying is a lot of hold on,
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: do you want to buy some things?
• 41:37
  Speaker 7: Yeah, you want to buy some more discover me, you
• 41:40
  Speaker 7: want to buy Janet?
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: Janet?
• 41:44
  Speaker 5: Just here where Marty in our AC live show notes
• 41:47
  Speaker 5: is gonna our a c live show has going ahead
• 41:49
  Speaker 5: and posted that last year was January sixteenth of twenty
• 41:52
  Speaker 5: twenty five when we found out about vault tours, So
• 41:54
  Speaker 5: that would be this upcoming Friday.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm sure they're on it on time.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: Still still a fail from the.
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: Again, like I feel like they don't even know when.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: They might know like two or three of them, but
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: I still feel like they don't know when all the
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: vaults are going to be and they're.
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: Not might even be doing some garbage where they're like,
• 42:18
  Speaker 6: well we got five and we're keeping all the dates open,
• 42:21
  Speaker 6: so you've got your first and your second choice. And
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: now we got a store and see what their first
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: and their second choices. And then we got a shuffle
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: and move and you know they got there. They got
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: their five slots up on the corkboard and moving the
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: things Brown.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: I doubt know that's happening. But at the same point,
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: like I just I don't.
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: Feel like a scheduling being on five sticky notes.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: I five sticky notes sounds about right, but I just
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: don't feel like they're that put together to the point
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: where like they have it all like lockdown and like, oh,
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: this is what we want to do, like it should
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: like literally, you're twenty twenty six should be planned in
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty five and you're twenty.
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: About that, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, we've already talked about.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm just saying in reality, that's how you jokes.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: But I'm saying that's not how they operate. That's not
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: how they work, and it's not and it'll never be
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: how they work. I don't think they're ever going to
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: be to that point where you know they will be there.
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: That's not true. If that's for two hundred people, they
• 43:29
  Speaker 6: would be better because they would be at a completely
• 43:36
  Speaker 6: different kind of venue. Okay, but besides, we are where
• 43:40
  Speaker 6: at the whim of what works for the venues, right.
• 43:43
  Speaker 6: We don't when you call up a venue for the
• 43:45
  Speaker 6: KEYBOARDE event, you don't get first booking. You get when
• 43:49
  Speaker 6: can you fit me in?
• 43:51
  Speaker 5: Right, which is all the more important to reach out
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: as soon as you've run an event or very close
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: after it.
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: Let's reatat like thing, the thing there are one hundred
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: games that they're planning preleases and junk around, and that
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: stuff isn't officially released, so like it's a lot of work.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: Got it.
• 44:11
  Speaker 6: We're not. We're not the only thing that hits these
• 44:12
  Speaker 6: store calendars. Like I said, it's not like they're using
• 44:15
  Speaker 6: a venue where they're like, well, we're going to take
• 44:17
  Speaker 6: the first person who gives us money for the spot.
• 44:19
  Speaker 6: That's not the venues we're at.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: I agree, Okay, Sanctum and Dress Dunk, Yeah.
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: Dres, tell us tell us one of your worst moments
• 44:34
  Speaker 5: from Keyboards twenty twenty.
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: Five listening.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: The one that yeah, well there's that one, but actually
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: worse than that one was.
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: The thing that bothers me the most about when I
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: win early is keyfoards now, which is that guessing has
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: become the most important keyboard skill, right the guess which
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: house is on top of your opponent's deck, or have
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: your opponent guess what houses on top of your deck.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: You know, guess what deck that wins or loses games.
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: And it just it it makes such a difference.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: And it it's.
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: Like, for the most part, it's not skill. Like there
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: are certain moments where it's.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: Like, yeah, like.
• 45:26
  Speaker 6: You can do to increase your increase your odds.
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and but then there's moments where you know, people
• 45:34
  Speaker 4: feel like they got to do all the deep math
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: to go deep on it's just it's just so terrible.
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: So much like it would have been.
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: Flip faster.
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, like honestly good either.
• 45:53
  Speaker 6: That's not good either. But I'm just saying taking the
• 45:57
  Speaker 6: tax because the tax on top of the randness just
• 46:01
  Speaker 6: doesn't it doesn't add up to a more enjoyable experience,
• 46:05
  Speaker 6: right when you're counting discards and watching things and have
• 46:09
  Speaker 6: to be on top of it because every turn there's
• 46:11
  Speaker 6: gonna be a new card. Under asked me again.
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: Later, Yeah, and like the last time, I remember the
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: last time in December that I managed to make our
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: weekly Sunday days, by the way, come hang out with
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: us Sunday evenings to play key Forge online and the Crucible.
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: So x Ray and I were playing. We each had
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: ask again later. But that night I was really good
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: at guessing and he was really shitty at guessing.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: So guess who won? I did?
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: Did it feel like I outplayed him? Not really, I
• 46:47
  Speaker 4: just guessed way better, So you know, I guess that
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: proves x Ray does suck.
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: So we have. I mean, guessing is a necessary skill
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: right now on key Forge, and I don't foresee that
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: going away in twenty twenty six.
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, yet, there's randomness in card games right,
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: like like totally. It's not like a card game is
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: purely a situation without the randomness of drawing cards and
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: all that. But this is just so impactful and so.
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: Thank you. We'll see a reduction of ask again later
• 47:32
  Speaker 6: or ask me again later in an alliance where you
• 47:34
  Speaker 6: can actually sort of choose your prophecies because it's not
• 47:38
  Speaker 6: reliable enough, and you do lose because they just guessed right.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: That was my topic. Keeps guessing right, can't just.
• 47:47
  Speaker 6: Right and again and again, and my card didn't go
• 47:49
  Speaker 6: off and you know, so be it. Yeah, I knew
• 47:52
  Speaker 6: what I was playing there. I wasn't playing high skill
• 47:55
  Speaker 6: on my part, So yeah, it's it's fine, but often
• 48:00
  Speaker 6: in definitely concealed like ask Megan later, is too good
• 48:03
  Speaker 6: to pass up on most of the time. And then
• 48:06
  Speaker 6: even in ARCon like, yeah, you can't choose it. So
• 48:13
  Speaker 6: it's ah, yeah, I'm with you. That card is I don't.
• 48:20
  Speaker 6: I mean, like, like we talked about it. I said
• 48:21
  Speaker 6: it was a very powerful card. The information you gain
• 48:24
  Speaker 6: and all the stuff about it is a lot. But
• 48:27
  Speaker 6: at the same time, after experience that card, it does
• 48:31
  Speaker 6: not make key Forge better.
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: This might be the card that is the worst for
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: the game that has been never printed.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: Would it be better if cards like I mean, and
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: I'm going to guess the answers yes, But let's say
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: Recompense wasn't I mean, you know, the recompenses, the rage resets,
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: the the you know, there's that handful I mean, powerhouse
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: is there, right.
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, do you have to reduce quite a lot, Like
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: even if it didn't have huge impact cards under it,
• 49:09
  Speaker 4: the tax of that card is frustrating.
• 49:13
  Speaker 6: The mental tax again, the guessing, right, even if you're
• 49:16
  Speaker 6: just using that card to discard, and your opponent's discarding
• 49:18
  Speaker 6: three times as often as you do to functionally randomness,
• 49:22
  Speaker 6: it's it's it's it's not. Yeah. I mean, like I
• 49:31
  Speaker 6: I I'll all the randomness I need in key Forge
• 49:34
  Speaker 6: comes from just opening the decks. I don't need it
• 49:36
  Speaker 6: in the card like happenings as well. You know, It's
• 49:40
  Speaker 6: like why I've never liked wild Wormhole a lot, right,
• 49:43
  Speaker 6: because it's it's random. It's just like, oh, let's see
• 49:46
  Speaker 6: what happens. I'm not making significant decisions. Did I just
• 49:49
  Speaker 6: win or lose off this card? Flip woo hoo. You know,
• 49:52
  Speaker 6: I'm not a huge fan of that thing. I actually
• 49:56
  Speaker 6: think it's gotten that has become less bad because there
• 50:01
  Speaker 6: are less be bad cards and decks where you really
• 50:03
  Speaker 6: don't want to flip one of your cards with wild Wormholes.
• 50:06
  Speaker 6: So I've learned to tolerate that card more and newer
• 50:09
  Speaker 6: sets because I think there are less there are less
• 50:12
  Speaker 6: cards where you're just like, oh, if I flip that card,
• 50:15
  Speaker 6: you know I win or lose. But that whole kind
• 50:20
  Speaker 6: of stuff, you know, it doesn't. Yeah, it's it's not
• 50:25
  Speaker 6: skill that's triggering that stuff. It's just crap. Shooting, go and.
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: Ask the frequency later.
• 50:32
  Speaker 6: It's just every turn it's a guess.
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: Right because your deck you're going to play that. Yeah,
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: you're gonna play that once or twice.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: Every turn. This is yes, every single turn.
• 50:46
  Speaker 6: Every turn, there's a relatively uncontrolled random aspect of the
• 50:51
  Speaker 6: game happening.
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, yeah, I didn't know. It's I didn't know.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: If I didn't know if your opinion would change if like,
• 50:58
  Speaker 2: let's say, like it wasn't it wasn't that bad, and
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: it was just like, oh, well, so it would have
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: to be you know, something like you know, something menial
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: I mean, it would have to be something like where
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: the like the whole mechanic would have to be way weakened,
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: like the fates would have to be really lame.
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: And therefore, that's what I say, the fates. If we
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: do not have those fates, would that make a difference
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: to you?
• 51:31
  Speaker 6: It's still the complexity remembering to do dealing with it's
• 51:37
  Speaker 6: it's just.
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: Not it doesn't it might have just like it'll ever
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: provide the right amount of value to the amount of
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: extra garbage.
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: That you have to do.
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: It probably would have just swapped places with the number
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: two worst design card ever, which is atrocity.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: What are just swap places with that one?
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 52:01
  Speaker 5: I mean, and so looking at our list here, meta
• 52:03
  Speaker 5: shifts so heavy in PV direction, PV guessing, most important,
• 52:06
  Speaker 5: Keyford shows. All three of those fit in with what
• 52:09
  Speaker 5: we've been talking about.
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: And so that's why.
• 52:11
  Speaker 6: Pv TV is one of the worst things that happened
• 52:13
  Speaker 6: to key Forge, and I bet your shows up on
• 52:16
  Speaker 6: one of the best things that happened to key It does.
• 52:20
  Speaker 4: H I mean, there's a lot of good in that set,
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: but then there's also a lott.
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: Of bad well. And the reason I put PV in
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: good is it gave you the opportunity. I felt that
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: at least within the past two years, you at least
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: had one set.
• 52:46
  Speaker 6: But we said that with WOE, we said that with
• 52:48
  Speaker 6: GR I did.
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: I felt like that was bullshit. With I felt that
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: was bullshit. With WOE, I did not feel that way
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: at all. Everyone kept saying, open a deck and you'll
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: be great and it'll be the best thing ever. And
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: I didn't experience any of that. But with GR I
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: definitely find I never experienced that.
• 53:07
  Speaker 6: With GR you opened all the good.
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: GR I guess so, But GR I felt that way,
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: and I feel like PV is a lot of the same.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: You have an opportunity to open something, something spicy if
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: you're a tournament player, right, if you are, you know,
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: no offense, mister perfect, mister perfect. It just goes to locals,
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: you know everything, right, Well, when spicy meats spicy, it
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: makes spicy not so spicy and just becomes an annoyance
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: and it becomes yes, it was you. I don't know
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: what's funny is when we talk about this now, it
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: is literally everything Pete bitched about when he first talked
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: about prophet efficients. He's like, I saw this in what
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: was it? What game did he play before? Online? TCG?
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: Drawing a blank? Oh, World of Wars?
• 54:06
  Speaker 6: Playing the.
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Heartstone, Hearthstone.
• 54:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, all random. Like Harstone really has embraced a lot
• 54:19
  Speaker 6: of random. Do you play a card, you just get
• 54:22
  Speaker 6: a random creature that costs three from the whole world
• 54:25
  Speaker 6: of the game, right right, random three power creature because
• 54:29
  Speaker 6: you know you don't have to actually have physical stuff
• 54:31
  Speaker 6: to make it happen. It's you know what it's I
• 54:35
  Speaker 6: like that stuff in Heartstone. It's fun and interesting, but
• 54:38
  Speaker 6: again it's the same like level of like, you can't
• 54:42
  Speaker 6: take the competitive as serious because it's another it's another
• 54:46
  Speaker 6: dire roll happening.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: The thing about Hearthstone is hearthstone because it is deck
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: building can say, all right, we're we had our fun
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: with this and we're gonna kind of send and send
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: it away. What do you think? How do you handle
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: this now? And how do you handle this with key forge?
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: Do you just be like, well, no more decks that
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: have We're going.
• 55:07
  Speaker 6: To handle it with public shame, which you're.
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: Making a public shame of the guy who's like I
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: just won kick rocks, like, oh no, we'll try. We'll try.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: You're not going to win. We'll try.
• 55:23
  Speaker 6: We got some more worse. What else we got?
• 55:25
  Speaker 5: Ye?
• 55:25
  Speaker 3: What did you? What did you see? Sheep?
• 55:29
  Speaker 6: I don't know. I put it in a list. You
• 55:30
  Speaker 6: were reaping.
• 55:33
  Speaker 4: Your list in front of us.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: That's pretty he's not looking at that list right now,
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: can't I got We're going to try, yeah, because talk
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: about what's.
• 55:53
  Speaker 5: Worst, and then we're going to give Sheep a second
• 55:56
  Speaker 5: because I'm gonna call on him again to say what's worst.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: Actually it is, it's actually one of sheepsh.
• 56:03
  Speaker 6: But he put it in a weird order.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's your second one in there, it's the
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: same one, so timing the worst.
• 56:12
  Speaker 6: Reemp. I think that like like the the whole certain
• 56:17
  Speaker 6: darkness thing with purging two houses, which I heard a
• 56:21
  Speaker 6: lot of rumors going into KFC that Logos was getting
• 56:24
  Speaker 6: the whack because they said Logos and the thing that
• 56:26
  Speaker 6: they're the one on lead ships so clearly they're dark now,
• 56:31
  Speaker 6: which fine, whatever, But then the other house, and I
• 56:36
  Speaker 6: just I still cannot believe it's Sanctum.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: Like.
• 56:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I know, but I can't believe the second
• 56:44
  Speaker 6: house was Sankum and not Redemption because I mean, I
• 56:47
  Speaker 6: know we reported a bunch of Redemption.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: And other people. We were also thought Shadows for a
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: long time was going to get the ax.
• 56:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah I was, well, I thought star.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we could star alized, hated.
• 57:04
  Speaker 6: But I mean, just with what a dumpster Redemption has been,
• 57:13
  Speaker 6: to be stuck with them is depressing. I guess they
• 57:16
  Speaker 6: got a little more identity in BV. They actually have
• 57:19
  Speaker 6: some of their own cards that like two of them
• 57:22
  Speaker 6: are okay and the rest of them are all bad,
• 57:24
  Speaker 6: but they're only good. Ones are only good because they
• 57:26
  Speaker 6: have good fates, so they still have nothing good for
• 57:30
  Speaker 6: the next set or like the just there's just nothing
• 57:34
  Speaker 6: in Redemption that interested me. I know, Redemption is gg's
• 57:40
  Speaker 6: work instead of f fgs. So they're like, oh, it's ours,
• 57:43
  Speaker 6: we can do what we want. But now this is
• 57:46
  Speaker 6: just like it's just awful that we got stuff.
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: I always kind of sucked, sucks more.
• 57:55
  Speaker 5: Well, there's too many creatures. There's not enough that it's
• 58:00
  Speaker 5: like it does. There's no identity. It's just the conglomerate
• 58:05
  Speaker 5: of what we've taken from previous sets.
• 58:07
  Speaker 6: It's like now, I mean like it's potential, you know,
• 58:10
  Speaker 6: like they can do whatever they want, and it'd just
• 58:12
  Speaker 6: be like a bunch of a bunch of the Sanctum guys.
• 58:15
  Speaker 6: They're gonna put extra eyeliner on and go playing house.
• 58:18
  Speaker 6: Redemption be dark Sanctum. It's called guy still capture for
• 58:23
  Speaker 6: them because like they still have pie, so we're taking
• 58:25
  Speaker 6: them with Redemption. It could happen, but it's.
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: Just maybe Redemption's version of pie is ice cream. What
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: do you think I think it helps with all those
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: mutation sores?
• 58:38
  Speaker 6: Version of ice cream?
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's put a little ice cream on that. I mean,
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: my thoughts still is that you're gonna end up seeing
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: a lot of logos and sanctum in redemption. I still,
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: I know Luke kind of put the pooh pooh on it,
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: like you know last time we talked to him. But
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: I feel like that's where you're gonna see a lot
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: of those cards that they I mean, and.
• 59:02
  Speaker 6: Who knows logos logos just goes over to geistoid.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, I think that either way here if if
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: if you take GG out their word right then, which
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: there is heavy criticism of sure, But but if you
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: take them at their word, this is not a bad
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: on Gg. This is a bad on all you listeners
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: that Sheep is saying here. Sheep is telling you listener
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: that you're a bad.
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: Anything other than redemption and you should be ashamed of yourself.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: No, No, because these are correct.
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: Correct because dres I will go into the next item
• 59:44
  Speaker 3: on the list, which is there was no way to
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: track the purged houses, like we had to pop off
• 59:48
  Speaker 3: from the Mars event that we could see what was
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: happening most because.
• 59:53
  Speaker 6: The results were opposite of what ended up happening.
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: Which is why I'm saying, But this li with technology
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 5: that we have access to today, it's just you have
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 5: a website, you can see you can see the houses
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 5: that are here, and you can go and then you
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 5: close it at a certain date.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 6: I think they would have had. The problem is is
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 6: I don't actually think there's enough numbers for it to
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 6: look good, right, so they would just.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 4: Report of who's the top three. You don't have to
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: say numbers you have. It's like these are the top.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 6: But that at that point, it's the same thing as
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 6: what they did.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: But there's some transparency in that.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: I can.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 6: Transparency if there If there isn't the data behind it,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 6: there's not transparency.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: I'm not saying it for the transparency sake, although I
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: think that would have been interesting. I'm saying it more
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: from a perspective of keeping the event engaging. Like if
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: every week it was like now you know now sanctums
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: in the lead sheep put be like, fuck, I gotta
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: go to my local to purge redemption.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 6: I stayed on task guys.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I also agree with that, because if you
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: don't have the data, they could just put up whatever
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: they want.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 6: Oh that's that's what I said all along. I was
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 6: saying this event is if it's good storytelling, they've already
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 6: decided and it doesn't matter.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: What we do.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: I hope that wasn't it.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: They definitely should have done a running a running tally
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: or even if it wasn't tally, like a top three
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: or something or who you know, and then maybe at
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: the end be like here's the lowest purged one or something.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: I don't know, but again, what is it without without
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: the data, what is it? They can tell you whatever
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: they want.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 6: All right, next bad thing?
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, anyway, it was there?
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: All right? Too well? Bad again?
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, alliance too well at under like sixteen players,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 6: I'm definitely under twelve is a disaster.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: Under twelve is an absolute disaster. But frankly to l like,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 5: we have the ability on the app now that you
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: can track and see, hey I want to play or
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 5: I don't want to play. We're hitting submits. Yes, if
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: you have more than two losses, you're out. But put
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 5: everyone in the same Dard tournament. There's just no reason
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: for it.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 3: Like tool is we have Swiss play Swiss.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 6: I agree to the need they need to change the
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 6: thing that under sixteen it goes great Swiss or straight
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 6: something because yeah too, l O. And the people who
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 6: get a loss and a buy are automatically enterprising is
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 6: real bad. It's real bad. Should not be happening that like,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 6: and people with actual game wins, and the.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: Guy who has a loss it has to has to
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: go into play in route to play again and then.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 6: Lose and then not get anything although they actually played
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 6: and one, I mean like it.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: It is bad.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 6: It is also bad to punish the people who got
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 6: the buye. It's just the whole format. You can't you
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 6: have to switch to a different.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: Thing format all together because quickly alliance isn't fucking working,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: so it might be time to abandon three or four rounds.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 6: And you also need to guarantee a decent number of games,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 6: because when you show up to a major tournament and
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 6: you're like, I'm yeah, I mean, I know, we guarantee two,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 6: but not when there's byes, you might only play one
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 6: sort of. So yeah, like some stuff has to change
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 6: if the tournaments are going to continue to be run
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 6: at that small of a player.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 3: Guy.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 5: And this is why to l O is a problem.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 5: We came to play the event that we want to play.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 5: Let's go ahead and play, let's have fun be there.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: I just don't understand why we're continuing to lean into
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: to l I don't.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: That's the same reason we continue to lean in our Alliance.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: I don't because it's.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 6: I'm going to disagree with this being on the list
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 6: toll No, the Alliance leaning into Alliance like.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: That it is, it is there.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 6: It is maybe not hurting the game in any meaningful
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 6: way at this point right like it is not.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 5: But this is where this is where we differ sheep,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 5: because you say it doesn't hurt. Frankly, we should be
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 5: playing Field. That's what we should be playing when we
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 5: continue playing. But what I'm saying is when we're splitting
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 5: into into Alliance, ARCon and Sealed, we're splitting our time
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 5: and there are people who want to play each of those,
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 5: I think they're fine for everyone premiere event we should be.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 4: I agree.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 5: What I what I'm saying is we don't have five
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 5: hundred people that were splitting up with Alliance and Arkon,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: so I I.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 6: There there are more than one. I mean, there's only
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 6: eleven to pick for up, but at least one or
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 6: who of those people wouldn't even come to the Vault
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 6: if Alliance wasn't there. Like Alliance is what it is,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 6: it's I don't think it hurts attendances, So I don't.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 6: I don't see. I don't see how eliminating Alliance improves anything.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 6: That's my thing. It's like, if I'm with you, I
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 6: think Alliance is mostly pointless. But I'm also not really
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 6: an Alliance player. I play it when I've already done
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 6: ARCon for the year, so I'll go dink around over there.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 6: But like, I don't, I don't see how it hurts
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 6: the game anymore. All I see by removing Alliance is
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 6: hurting the game by taking the players that actually do
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 6: care about it, the monsters that they are.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: Said, you said, one to two people versus being able.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 6: To go even it's been eight to eleven, how.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 5: Many of those have switched over as a result of
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 5: the numbers being low to get prizing right away, even
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 5: as bad as it is, versus just going ahead?
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 6: And like, what what are you gaining by getting rid
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 6: of it?
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 5: You're gaining efficiency with your judges that are not spread
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 5: out further that you're not trying to go ahead and
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: run multiple events.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 6: That's what you're you said, judges, I don't actually think
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 6: you're gaining I I personally don't think you're gaining anything.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 6: I think this this is screaming into a void at
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 6: this point. Even again, maybe it's fine, nobody, alliances whatever,
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 6: just leave it alone.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: That my issue is too low.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 6: We didn't kill it when it was an infant. Now
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 6: it's all growing up, and you just have to.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: It's only okay to kill infants.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: Now that it's.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: That it's an you gotta let it grow.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah. I actively tried to kill it pre birth, right
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 6: like I was. I tried to abort that baby.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: Now I have it.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: Now you have a toddler, so now you gotta get it.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 6: That's right, all right?
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: What else.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 6: My tournament software on here?
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: It was not because it's never.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: Break.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 3: It didn't.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: It's there.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 6: I have access to it. I can run vents in it.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: Who runs events? Raise your hands? Raise your hand?
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: Would I use it?
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 6: I wouldn't, but I can. I can even make it
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 6: so at our locals you have to pay an event
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 6: key to play the event.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: What still, well, I don't know.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 6: I haven't actually looked at it lately, but I can't
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 6: imagine they updated that out.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: No, okay, all right, so let's see what else.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 5: Disc It's just not there for your because we're competitive podcast.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 5: It's not for the competitive players.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: I think that it's not it is it. I think
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 3: the majority it doesn't. It is apparently played.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 6: People enjoyed it at packs.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: So there you go.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it went great at packs with it.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah, So I mean it conserve its purpose. We just
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 6: it's hard to find the people to put it in
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 6: front of.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: Yep, we got to have people to put it in
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: front of for it to be a thing.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 6: So our next one says c C powers and misunderstanding
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 6: and what makes seek good?
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: Should we just say I put this see?
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm with you, Like the whole again, Like the whole,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 6: the whole development cycle, release announcement, everything to do with
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 6: handling cclet's garbage.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like they were like, here's a set specifically designed
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 4: for sealed. We're like, ooh, this could be interesting.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: What are they going to do?
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: And they're like, we'll give these power. The powers are
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 4: the exact opposite of what we've got for sealed, right, right,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: like another random yeah, so desparate right for sealed. We
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: prefer if if the width of that bell curve was tighter, right,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 4: that would be.
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: Gotten on average for.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: Sealed, right, whereas you know what those with those powers,
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: you've widened it more than almost any set like it
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 4: just there's no reason to use those powers, like they're so.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: So poorly designed and yeah.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 6: Because they weren't designed in a way to reduce the
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 6: bell curve, right, like they just make it. They make it. Yes,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 6: it's it's a big multiplier, which is not not great.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 6: But then the whole way that like the whole original
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 6: announcement of CC Hey, it's a sealed set, but then
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 6: it's trash afterwards. Play it once and throw it away,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 6: which does it hurt me in the way of like
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 6: that's already how I treat most keyboard sets as a
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 6: personal thing. But I think as a game company to
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 6: be printing a fifteen dollars product that is disposable, intended
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 6: disposable just seems like so anti green, so non like,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 6: it just seems it just seems so wasteful.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: What do you mean cardboards biodegradable.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 6: I mean then they should have printed it on toilet
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 6: paper so we could have actually used it.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's always you just the next version you
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: play it, you play that deck once and you just
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: like squares off, Yeah, and that guy's purge and you
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: gotta wipe with it.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 5: There you go randomized when you when you see the
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 5: next summer event in its toilet paper decks, you understand
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 5: why listen.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm not okay with that idea.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: Like again, me and Sheep are kind of in the
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 2: same zone, like if if it ain't hitting, it's uh,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: it's a quinton, it's right into the garbaggio with that
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: bad boy. So I'm but I feel like.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 6: That's fine on a personal choice. But for the company
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 6: to be like, we are selling you a deck at
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 6: full retail that it's only intended to be played in
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 6: one event ever and then going the.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 4: I mean they've been doing that for a while, tended
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: that way. It just happens to be that way.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 6: I don't know, but no, it's like it's for these
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 6: sealed events and then will not be allowed in any
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 6: organized event. So then it's then, yes, you're right, there
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 6: is exactly what we did with unchained change, which was
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 6: you played it sealed and then you only play it
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 6: with itself again later it's it is just another one
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 6: of those sets. But just the way they build it
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 6: was just it it tasted bad to me because they're like,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 6: you know, basically said this isn't intended to be played
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 6: ever again. Once you know what's in it, it's just like,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 6: what what is this? So what they did say no
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 6: Powers and the set is better with No Powers, But
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 6: just the whole handling of CC was just to me
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 6: was it is definitely on the worst because from the
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 6: way it was presented to the way it was handled
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 6: and the actual design, there's nothing in it that worked well.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 4: But at the end of the month set, the set
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 4: itself is now we're gonna play No Powers it and
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 4: that go, which will be fun.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: And I think I think See Powers is a better
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: play experience than Discovery.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 6: We better grade all of them CEC cards next week
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 6: so I know what they are.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: You're right, we actually should do without without any without
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: any news. We can definitely start on that one.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 6: All right, all right, what's the next one?
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: I think we're good.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 5: You don't get that you don't get to play much yet.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 5: That's PV consistent, still missing. That is still that I
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 5: think said. And then this one is it's.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: Gonna be this year and it'll be missing again next one.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah. One of the worst things in key Fords this
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 6: year was the World's Prizing. It was abysmal. I really
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 6: felt like an afterthought and a joke and and I
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 6: don't even want to talk about it anymore.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 2: Because it just makes you want to go play different
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: board games and stuff. It's almost like the use.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 4: And then they went, oh shit, we didn't actually save
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 4: any money for prizes.
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 6: We got in the back around like the prizes were like, okay,
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 6: so you have all this stuff, use it for prizes.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 6: And then they gave too much away doing other things
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 6: and it came time to prize the world. I'm like,
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 6: oh shit, we gave away or put too much on
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 6: the prize ball because they were probably selling them for
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 6: the tickets as well. And they're just like, they just
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 6: gave away too much, regardless of like because because like
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 6: everything here, World's prizing was decided ten minutes before it
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 6: had to be handed out, not six months.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, regardless of what happened, it just wasn't okay.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 2: I know that. Uh.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 5: Dave c going ahead and talking and the cast like
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 5: he wants to know what what's prizing for this upcoming year?
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 5: What is it for twenty twenty six?
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: He needs to know that.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 3: I agree, like it is.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: It's just mastered.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: I was there, you know what if it just it
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 3: was it was pathetic for a World's event.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 6: Yeah, if prizing Vaults is identical to last year, I'm
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 6: not going to complain. It's whatever. I'm not playing for
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 6: the prizing, right, It's just the World's prizing to be
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 6: less than Vault.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: Prizing was or less than a side event where.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 6: Just the fact that the prizing there was worse than
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 6: everywhere else was was really really surprising. Like it's just like, yeah,
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 6: nonsensical and not even anything unique, right, the pin, the
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 6: pin is the only thing unique. Jr's foiled playmat was cool.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 3: It was.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 6: I mean, like, again, had they given out those crappy
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 6: that the crappy deck prizes and just made everybody's play
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 6: Matt spoiled, I wouldn't have probably said much. I'd be like, Okay,
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 6: that's something that only worlds people have that's cool or
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 6: worlds and open tops or whatever. But no, it was,
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 6: and they're even narrow place or narrow play mats. Again,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 6: it's just I don't know. Yeah, World's PRIZINGO. I got
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 6: the pin. The only thing I cared about the pin
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 6: and my name in an article, the two things I'm
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 6: playing for anymore.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: All Right. It took us an hour to get here,
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: but time move on to the best, the short and
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: then we're done, and then we're done.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what was the best?
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: There was some good stuff. Community events I do think
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: a lot. So obviously the parties are always a good time, right,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: no matter where we go, what we do, and the
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: parties are always a good time. The people are a
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: good time. I mean, uh, who was a good time?
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: People are a great time. Dead to the community cards
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: some of us some of us. Yeah, sheep by day
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: three is hit hit or miss. Really depends on how
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: he's doing three.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 6: I have like two good hours on day one and
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 6: that's it.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: No, it depends. I don't know. Day one of Baltimore
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: was a lot of fun. Or maybe I'm still just
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: laughing because you tried to hop onto the bed and
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: completely missed. But may mean either way, wow.
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 6: That's drunk shape. That's a totally different experience.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: That was a good time for me. That was good.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: Community cards I thought were good, Like I still see
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: talk about them. So oh they're so cool. Yeah.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 6: The side the side tournaments Necho and Miswest Charity Key
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 6: Forge Open are.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: Both well somehow better than events.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 4: With stuff Yeah, like have definitely have better rewards for
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 4: going like, how how do I get a good better?
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 6: We'll see about Necko, I don't I don't know, well,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 6: but even then, definitely a way better last year at
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 6: the Midwest Charity.
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 2: The Midwest Charity, the Midwest Community Charity Classic or I
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: don't know if it has Classic at the end. But
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: even then, like the goodies you got there were significantly
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: better then. I mean, and again I get it because
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: they're not running a business, and I don't know, like
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: time and effort and total amount cost, YadA, YadA, how
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: do you get in a better goodie bag going to that?
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: Then you are going to the World's event. What was
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: Worlds this year? Was it one hundred and fifty and
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: seventy dollars? I don't know, I don't remember. But you
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: got a better goodie bag going there, then you got
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: going to KFC.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 6: This is true. That box the community continued to be
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 6: the most exciting part of.
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: The Shining Light. We guess the most exciting part of
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: key Forge. Somebody put on vault Master twenty five. I
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 2: could take it or leave it, but yeah, somebody really
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: likes vault Master twenty A great, really fun set.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 6: It was.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna say they lucked into balancing it really well.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 4: Uh, it was enough to not feel bad, Yeah, just
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 4: hawful enough to not feel bad. There was lots of
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 4: fun stuff and it sure you can still get a
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 4: junkie deck just like any set, but like there's plenty
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 4: of like fun stuff in that set, like we did
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: for a br the vm ARCon week and it was
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 4: a ton of fun, like.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: The whole team, like that would have been Like if
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: PV wasn't a thing, I feel like I have everything.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 2: I agree with that, but yeah I got some, I
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: got some really good but then like once you put
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 2: PV into the mix, it's like doesn't matter anymore. Everything
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: you did in the past is now just too slow,
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: just too.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 6: Slow of everything. And why PV meta was on the
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 6: worst list, Yeah, because it really has put a big
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 6: foot on everything else, all right.
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 5: Like set up, I think I think I think the
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 5: V twenty five decks were really well balanced. Again, that's
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 5: the sealed set that we want to see with that
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 5: middle kind of closer from the top and the bottom
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 5: like that.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 6: Twenty five for premiere Sealed for the year.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 2: Is how is that not the Wall of Fire set?
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 6: Like the last chance this is the Vault Masters set
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 6: your ear because anyways, but the geotaged one, which this is,
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 6: this should not be on the best list because this
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 6: is like this is this is should just be expected.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: Like yeah, well so I suppose I put the thing.
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 6: That they did it is is good, but like just
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 6: it's like celebrating near minimum requirements.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, Okay, why did you put I'm guessing
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: this is you too that amber Sky's Yeah, I really like,
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: I'm like.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 6: I'm kind of looking yeah, I'm looking forward to the
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 6: next mile the store, because that's all we have to
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 6: play at our store is amber Sky.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: Sweet give me a reason to come back sheet.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 4: And there's like only one card in the set that
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 4: makes me feel icky, and that's a pretty awesome no,
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 4: although maybe I don't know, maybe that should but I
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 4: guess there's been similar enough cards that doesn't make me
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 4: feel like it's the it's the Arcanometer. It makes me
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: feel icky, but Thers Enhanced Arcanometer exactly.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 5: Ill, But I just think it's in the hands with
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 5: another house and you're hit too.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: Out of it.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: It's a really fun set though, really fun.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 3: And it's it's speedy, it moves at a good pace. Yes,
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 3: I agree.
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we put somebody put on there. That is a
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty sixth season. That's good, right, everybody smile.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that that was That was one of mine.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: Uh so your gg overlord can see.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 6: It is a the the best things we have to
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 6: s is basically they did it and it's still happening.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 6: It's it's a little depressing.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: Well, the fact that it's on our best list of well,
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: there's still key Flords to play, so we're good. That's right,
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 2: We're all happy here now. Really lower that this.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 4: Next one, this next one, the fact that it's on
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 4: the best list. It's just a certain darkness. Certain Darkness
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 4: was fun.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just like, oh, we had an event and
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 6: it didn't suck, so that makes it the best.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: No, Like, I thought Certain Darkness was fun. I liked
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: the idea. Obviously, execution of said idea was. But like
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 2: the whole idea of the side deck and an alternative
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: wind condition of getting and getting completely uh you know
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: right pretty you know, of getting your opponent to you know,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: get all their darkness cards in their deck and being consumed.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: I thought that was great. I really I enjoyed. I
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: think I might have enjoyed the Certain Darkness event more
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: than the Mars event. Oh really, I think I did
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: because I liked well to see it appeals to me.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 2: I like the idea. I call it alternative wind condition.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: She calls it alternative loss condition. Either way, same idea.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 2: I like that it added something new, fresh and inter
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: resting to the game for once where it's not like,
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: here's this thing that's completely busted, try not to break it,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: and then we're like, we're gonna break it, and then
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 2: we do.
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 6: It was it was interesting because everybody had the exact
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 6: same stack of cards, so it wasn't it was not
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 6: h randomness. The only randomness that really hit there was
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 6: like if somebody hit their market mark of the dark early,
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 6: that really changed.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because it had multiple purges that you well, because that.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 6: Card didn't seem balanced with the rest of the cards.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 3: But that's it was.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 2: But it was it was fun, right, and it because
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 2: I think because it was such a low stakes event
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 2: and made it a little it made it okay.
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: That was that was me.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: You don't have to agree with me, and that's fine.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 6: I thought the event was fine. It's just the fact that,
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 6: again the stuff that's on our best list is just
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 6: things you would just expect to be okay.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: Anyways, right, speaking of expecting to be okay.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't agree with this one, but go ahead, okay.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 6: I put on that Vault tour timing and it ran smoothly.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 6: I think this year was a market improvement in consistency, right, Like,
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 6: there were not stumbles during the vaults, like they just
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 6: they showed up. Things started at a reasonable time, they
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 6: finished at a reasonable time. Breaks were on timing expected
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 6: for the most part. Yep, right there, Like the early
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 6: vaults it was so rough where now you just you know,
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 6: like it is definitely easier to go in, and like
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 6: now I feel like we're at a point in Vaults
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 6: where it's like we can be thinking about dinner, we
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 6: can think about what we're going to be doing on
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 6: nights because we know we're gonna be able to get
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 6: out of there at a reasonable time, right Like we
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 6: the expectation and the delivery is there, right Like, again,
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 6: this is one of those things it's like this should
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 6: just be what it was, but now it really it
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 6: was significantly great better.
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 2: I feel like it was better than years past, but
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 2: still could be improved upon.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 6: Well, there's plenty of improvements in what the events are
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 6: and things, but the fact that what they announced in
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 6: what happens match is much better.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: The drinking agreed, I put that on yep, I agree,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: I agreed. We have like good established was the.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 4: Best bar each of your minds this year are m M.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 6: The best bar was drunk forget worlds where we were
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 6: just mixing drinks. Just but I love of making everybody
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 6: have to drink terrible bar. Tender Sheep is the fucking worst,
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 6: Like he is just bad. He just he definitely does
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 6: not want to tip, that's for sure, or maybe he
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 6: watched just the tip.
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 3: I hear you.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: I'm the one given the tip when I'm the barday
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: Like he's like, here, drink this, like it's just here,
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: drink this, and you're like, what is it? And it's like,
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 2: I don't worry about it. It'll be fine, I think.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: And then you're like, oh, I was blind for more
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: and a half seconds, Okay, yeah, just just drink it.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: And it's like I was blind for four seconds, but
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: was it?
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: And then he just wanders off, What the hell, I
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: don't know? You gave me some doozies this year. I
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: was not thrilled. One had fruit in it, and I
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 2: don't know what kind of fruit it was.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 6: It was it muddled. Jerry Jr.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 2: I'm assuming this was you to Meet the Ghosts.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 5: I actually thought the change of the time for Meet
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 5: the Ghosts instead of it being Sunday at the very
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 5: end of the event, for KFC, putting it on Thursday night.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 5: I want to say it was a much much better choice.
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 5: So it allowed people to ask questions and kind of
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 5: see it was.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 3: That Thursday or was that it was earlier? It was it.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 3: I just I thought that for it.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 5: I thought that was a much better location in time
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 5: I did. I just want it, Yeah, well done in
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 5: that manner. You have most of the people there for
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 5: your big events, so that's what you want.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 5: I put on the New Player kid as well. I
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 5: thought that it was a really like putting together Discovery.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 5: While it wasn't the set that I was looking for,
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 5: I think the new Player kits, the little key chains
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 5: that were there really fit in with the theme of
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 5: the game. They were easy to be able to market.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 5: It didn't go ahead and produce any people in our area,
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 5: but I thought that it was well put together. But
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 5: that's what I'm saying is like I still thought it
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 5: was well put together, It went ahead and was something
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 5: targeted at attracting new people, which we need, and so
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 5: I put it as one of the better things.
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 2: All right, I agree. I thought it was something I
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 2: may now have worked for us, but maybe it worked
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: for somebody.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 3: I like.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: It was nice to it did work, It did work well.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: It was It was nice to see an event where
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 2: it's like, Okay, hey, new players, it's might be worth
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: your time to come out and do a thing. You know.
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: I thought it gave new players maybe some reason to
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 2: do something in something I'm not sure, but.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 6: Out the outreach for the kids are still you know
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 6: what's lacking, right, people got to know to come and
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 6: play from the doing Okay store champions.
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 3: That was just for this upcoming year. So that is
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 3: not on one of the.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: Best Okay reason to go to locals.
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, because of the actual No, that was that was
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 5: the same part it was under. Yeah, so key change
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 5: this having a store championship is a reason to be
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 5: able to go to locals, and so I appreciate that,
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 5: but that was in our of the visions of key
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 5: Ford twenty twenty six.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 6: Ah, got it, okay, and somebody put foils. I feel
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 6: like I'm the only foil fool here.
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: No foil their foils. But I think that's again, I
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: think that's twenty twenty six. One thing we didn't talk about.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 2: Now there's foils last year. No, no, there there last year. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 2: there are. You're right, you're right, you're right, right, I forgot.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 6: I'm one of two serious foil collectors I know.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, who's the other one?
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 6: Lord Judo? Other people have There are several people who
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 6: have collected you know, they're keeping what they've opened, but
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 6: I don't know many other people who are like actively
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 6: trying to to acquire foils.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're about to lose this game, aren't they crazy?
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 3: Eh?
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 6: Who cares?
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 2: Kind of do one thing we didn't talk about that,
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: I do think, well, I will you mentioned the key
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: chain for that, but keychain the website, Oh yeah, I.
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 5: Have.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 6: I have participated in slightly more events because of it, because, uh,
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 6: fake Internet points are something I will try to earn,
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 6: even though I know they mean nothing. But I am
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 6: down for fake Internet points. I will you like I
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 6: want to be on the top of I want to
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 6: be if there is a list I can be on
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 6: top of, I'm down, I'm gonna try it.
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 3: So prizing does not inspire you to do anything but
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 3: fake Internet.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 2: Yes, I play for I play for the tribe that
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: likes trophies, flat metals, like thing that says I'm better
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 2: than you.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 6: I got luckier than you.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, that definitely means more to me than.
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  Speaker 6: A few dollars. Like I could just work another hour
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  Speaker 6: and make a few dollars. I don't. I don't care
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 6: about money. Like that just does not motivate me at all.
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: Hmm. I'm trying to think of how we turn that
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 2: into something key Forge prizing related.
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  Speaker 6: They made accolades, and I think the only place that
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 6: they're failing in accolades for me right.
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  Speaker 2: Now the reason I go to the player and the deck.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's why I don't chase accolades because they're not
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 6: on my player. For again, I don't have the one
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  Speaker 6: place where I can be like, look at my stack
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  Speaker 6: of accolades, because it's it is actually too difficult to
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 6: try to stack a ton of accolades on the same deck.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 6: That is, I mean, like the deck has to be
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 6: absolutely stupid for you to be able to really gain
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 6: a bunch.
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  Speaker 2: Of a bunch of accoes. I would like them.
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  Speaker 6: Because only accolades are ours for winning at Arkhan or.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and what would be cool? And I don't know,
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: maybe this is just me. I don't know if you
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: guys remember way back when when we you know, Burger
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: Token had to make your own make your own card deally, right,
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 2: you know, we were putting our QR codes on cards
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: to then you know, we could hand them to the
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: tournament organizer and he could just scan our QR code.
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 2: That right keychain now has that. But what if what
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: if giost Galaxy in some way you could get your
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: your accolades, whatever accolades you've earned with whatever decks on
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: a card of some sort. Would that be something you'd
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: be in Would you pay money to have something of such?
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: If you were allowed to have doctor sheep and you
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 2: could put some art.
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  Speaker 6: No, I'm just wondering now, because every time you get
• 1:33:55
  Speaker 6: a new accolade you want, you have to buy a
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 6: new one. And I would get really annoyed with that
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 6: very quickly, okay, because why I like the pins they
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 6: go on my pin board, and when I get a
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 6: new one, it just also goes on the pin board.
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 6: Pins work for me. Okay, I don't really get to
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 6: show off.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: My pin board very often, but I was just wondering
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: if that was something that would you check out.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 6: There. There are people who have reprinted decks because they
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 6: want to reprint with the accolade on it, and that
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 6: again does absolutely nothing for me, Like reprinting decks is
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 6: about security of the deck or replacing a missing card,
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 6: Like that's what reprints mean to me. And even that,
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 6: I haven't reprint a fraud, and I still play with
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 6: real fraud.
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  Speaker 2: Because what if you're allowed to put all your accolades
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: on it and it was just a fully accoladd deck.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 6: I mean if there was a point where you could
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 6: not see the image because it was all accolades, I
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 6: might be down. Yeah, fraud my language. Ah, now it's on.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 6: I got like four or five?
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  Speaker 2: Really I thought I had more than that.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 6: Okay, I don't know, see this is it? Like the
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 6: accolades are so kind of block. I don't even know
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 6: what my own decks have on them.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: We can always find out, yeah we could, but anyways,
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: I'm trying anything else. What do we got? The last
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 2: little bit? Twenty twenty five.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 6: What did we what did we missed for the best
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 6: things of Because I'm sure we have missed.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 5: I'm sure are our loyal listeners. Will go ahead and
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 5: let us know once this is posted in three weeks.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 6: Yeah, all I got five accolades. I'm fraud really Yeah,
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 6: and it's it is a little depressing. It doesn't have
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 6: the twenty five Worlds contender, but it is what it is.
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, but.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah, what what else? Did? What else did we miss
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 6: in the land of expected? Which makes it the best?
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 6: Tcl still works, so that's one of the best things.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, TCOs accolades. Actually now, yeah, did you see that announcement?
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 6: Yah? I saw you could put posicially and now you
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 6: can play clo. They put some work in this last
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 6: few weeks. There's been some Yeah, it's there, sloppy sloppy
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 6: hookups exist. That's I've gone to using that. So that's
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 6: that's one of my best things for this year and
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 6: links right up to key chain. Yeah, that's been nice.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: I haven't I haven't done much so far in twenty
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 2: twenty six, and the last half of my twenty twenty
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: five was very quiet as well. So but let us
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 2: know what you guys think are the best and worst
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five. It's gonna be posted in three weeks.
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 2: Last time I did because I did go and spend
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 2: some time with my family. I'm sorry, guys, my bad.
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: It won't happen again. I'll tell them, I'll tell Okay, kids,
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: daddy's gotta work. They said so so. But with that
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: being said, we will see you all next week. Happy fortune.
• 1:37:18
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• 1:37:27
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• 1:37:31
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• 1:37:50
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