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Something Spicy, The Sweetness of a Vikings Win, Savoring Good Beer | TSH Ep. 65 · The Skol Hop

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  Speaker 1: All right, Hey, Vikings fans, welcome into another episode of
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  Speaker 1: the School Hot I'm Evan and I'm Austin. We're just
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  Speaker 1: a couple of dudes from Iowa. We like drinking beer
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  Speaker 1: talking about the Viking.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we do. And this week I had to do
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  Speaker 2: it again. I had to spin the wheel of purple
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  Speaker 2: punishments alone again. But this week wasn't as bad as
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  Speaker 2: last week with the cinnamon challenge, so I'll take it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I mean there's gonna be a few
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  Speaker 1: more weeks coming up where one of us is going
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  Speaker 1: to have to spin the wheel regardless, so that'll be interesting.
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  Speaker 1: We also try a really good beer, a beer that
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  Speaker 1: kind of brings us back to our college days. Not
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  Speaker 1: the beer specifically that we had, but a beer that
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  Speaker 1: reminds us of it.
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  Speaker 2: And it was pretty good. It was really nice. It
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  Speaker 2: was nice to think back to that time. Another nice
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  Speaker 2: thing is we recapped the Vikings win over the Colts,
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  Speaker 2: the first win they've had in the last three games,
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  Speaker 2: so that was nice to talk about there, and we.
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  Speaker 1: Get to look ahead to the Vikings taking a road
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  Speaker 1: trip to Jacksonville, first of three road games coming up
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  Speaker 1: for the Vikings in a row. Going to Jacksonville, going
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  Speaker 1: to Tennessee, and going to Chicago. It'll be an interesting
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  Speaker 1: road trip for the Vikings. Hopefully they can get back
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  Speaker 1: to their winning ways like they did on Sunday Night
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  Speaker 1: against the Colts.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's hope they go three no. But until we
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  Speaker 2: know about that, go ahead, give us a listen for
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  Speaker 2: episode sixty five. Grab a cold one, join us in
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  Speaker 2: school school. All right, we just want to say big
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  Speaker 2: all right, man, do you know what time it is?
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  Speaker 2: That's it. That's all we have for this episode today. No,
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  Speaker 2: it's purple punishments. And I was he of little faith.
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  Speaker 2: I predicted in the preseason. I predicted a Vikings loss
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  Speaker 2: to the Colts, and thankfully I was wrong. But because
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  Speaker 2: of that, I and I alone, because you predicted a
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  Speaker 2: Vikings win over the Colt Yes, I have to spin
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  Speaker 2: the wheel of purple punishments. And all right. I still
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  Speaker 2: there's a couple decent ones on there, still like that
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  Speaker 2: would be annoying and wouldn't be super fun. But I
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  Speaker 2: think we've gotten the worst ones out of the way.
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  Speaker 2: The cinnamon challenge last week was awful. I will never
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  Speaker 2: do it again. I'm glad that that is in the
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  Speaker 2: rear view mirror. What limb are you going to wax?
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  Speaker 2: If you land on that one? Wax a limb? I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. I might. I might just go for it
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  Speaker 2: and like wax like my calf or something I think
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  Speaker 2: you had mentioned off Mike before that if you landed
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  Speaker 2: on it, you do like your thigh or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. I want to go for production value here,
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  Speaker 2: not that that's not a good idea, but I kind
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  Speaker 2: of hope I actually land on that one, because I'd
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  Speaker 2: be quick and easy and probably more painful that I'm
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  Speaker 2: giving it credit for. But I think we just got
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  Speaker 2: to spin and see what punishment I'm doing this week?
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  Speaker 2: You ready, yep? Here we go, all right, please be hollowpens.
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  Speaker 2: It's something spicy. Yes, well, you can find the jlopenos.
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  Speaker 1: But maybe I think the only bad thing about eating
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  Speaker 1: something spicy is drinking beer right after that.
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  Speaker 2: So we've got the sliced jlopennos. But here here's my
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  Speaker 2: question for you. I don't know if I have a
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  Speaker 2: spoon or anything. Okay, I want to do that. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe I'll just put it on the uh
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  Speaker 2: on the cap, put a handful on the cap or
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  Speaker 2: here I'm doing some paper towels. Sure, yeah, just because
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  Speaker 2: they are their jarred halopennos. I love spicy food, so
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  Speaker 2: this is not even a punishment right now.
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  Speaker 1: But you were saying, well, so what if we added
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  Speaker 1: a little wrinkle to this?
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  Speaker 2: Oh man, I reserve the right to veto whatever you're
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  Speaker 2: about to say.
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  Speaker 1: I give you the right to veto, but we do
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  Speaker 1: have eat an entire jar of pickles on here?
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  Speaker 2: Do you think you could eat an entire jar of jalapenions.
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  Speaker 2: I could, but I think my stomach now and tonight
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  Speaker 2: and tomorrow would not appreciate that a lot. I will
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  Speaker 2: eat a fair amount, and I'll let you be the
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  Speaker 2: judge on if it's a fair amount. I'm thinking not
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  Speaker 2: quite a handful, but like something of like a heaping
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  Speaker 2: spoonful's worth. I like it, all right, let's do it
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  Speaker 2: all right? Oop. I hope that pop got on the mic.
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  Speaker 2: That was a nice, satisfying little pop. Okay. So I
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  Speaker 2: don't know if you can see it from the camera
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  Speaker 2: from far. This is just your run of the mill
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  Speaker 2: high v sliced polopanos. It says hot on the on
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  Speaker 2: the jar.
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  Speaker 1: I tried to find the spiciest thing I could find
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  Speaker 1: on the shelf.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm the annoying guy that when I go to
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  Speaker 2: Mexican restaurants, I'll like order my food and then I'll say,
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  Speaker 2: and do you have like spicy hot sauce, like like
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  Speaker 2: the stuff you keep in the back for you know,
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  Speaker 2: the employees, And occasionally they'll be like, yeah, we we'll
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  Speaker 2: hook you up. And sometimes it's really good, really spicy
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  Speaker 2: hot sauce, and it's that's my favorite's that's what gets
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  Speaker 2: me happy, all right, Evan, I think you can add
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  Speaker 2: a little bit. Yeah, I can definitely add a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more. Well, i'll see it, but we'll show the
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  Speaker 2: people what we're working with here and there, a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of a mess it gets on the desk. It's fine.
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  Speaker 2: When I got some paper towels.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just glad you landed on this one because if
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  Speaker 1: I ate this much halopenos, I can smell them right now.
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  Speaker 2: Man, And this is a treat for me. It's offensive.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's gonna be spicy, don't get me wrong.
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  Speaker 2: But like I would say, this is probably i don't know,
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  Speaker 2: like a half of a real holopeno. Yeah, it's probably
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  Speaker 2: like two tablespoons.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just wanted to We're just gonna like just
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  Speaker 1: take a shot and just go for it.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe this might get a little messy, but yeah, if
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  Speaker 2: you're if you're watching here, maybe I'll even just walk
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  Speaker 2: up to the camera, do it. You got a nice
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  Speaker 2: little I guess you can't hear nice A nice amount
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  Speaker 2: of halopenno's there. Sorry, I should have narrated that better.
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  Speaker 2: That's alright, those that are just listening, we forget that
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  Speaker 2: the mic doesn't pick everything up. All right, I guess
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  Speaker 2: here she goes. Hang on.
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  Speaker 1: One quick reminder if you just if you're out there listening,
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  Speaker 1: this is a good reminder to watch our content on
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  Speaker 1: YouTube or on Spotify, because we do.
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  Speaker 2: This every week and it's just better in video, I think.
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  Speaker 2: But I get it.
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  Speaker 1: If you're just an audio only listener. But if you
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  Speaker 1: want to engage with these purple punishments, especially, check out
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  Speaker 1: the videos and we clip them out and post just
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  Speaker 1: those things on all of our socials lade.
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  Speaker 2: Even like Twitter and TikTok and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So I need you to get this over with because
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  Speaker 1: I can smell it and it's bad, and I'm a
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  Speaker 1: wimp when it comes to spicy stuff, I'll admit it.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm just gonna tell you right now, I'm probably
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  Speaker 2: just gonna take these home the rest of the Jara
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  Speaker 2: hallapanos because they will get eating. All right, here we go.
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  Speaker 2: This is going to be hot. Oh, I know it
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  Speaker 2: will be all right? School school, Oh yes, down the hatch.
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  Speaker 2: How is it? Are they as hot as they claim
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  Speaker 2: to be on the jar? I mean they're spicy, but
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  Speaker 2: it's a holopano. I think the volume is what's going
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  Speaker 2: to make it hotter. Sure, I think it's already serting
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  Speaker 2: a cool down a little bit. So yeah, I likes
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  Speaker 2: though you are a bigger man than I am. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's just that I like spicy food. So I'm
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  Speaker 2: really glad I landed on that. It was good. I'm
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  Speaker 2: still it's making me my mouth water a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: It's a little warm, like I might get a little
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  Speaker 2: beat of sweat if I weren't wearing a hat right now.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I would do it again if I had to.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you can take those home and put them on
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  Speaker 1: your tacos or whatever you have. That was That was
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  Speaker 1: an underwhelming punishment.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the cinnamon challenge last week was a thousand times
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  Speaker 2: worse to experience. I'd say even spicier. I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: it's a different kind of heat, but yeah, check out
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  Speaker 2: the cinnamon challenge from last week. And I think we're
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  Speaker 2: coming up on a run where like at least one
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  Speaker 2: of us is guaranteed to spin the wheel for a
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  Speaker 2: few weeks here, so keep your eyes peeled. Purple punishment.
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  Speaker 2: So that wasn't so bad, all.
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  Speaker 1: Right, Well, let's crack these beers open. It'll be interesting
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  Speaker 1: to see how the hallopanios interact with the beer that
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  Speaker 1: we have today, which is from lion Bridge Brewery. It's
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  Speaker 1: called fun Size and it's a porter with chocolate and vanilla,
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  Speaker 1: and the ABV isn't listed on the can, so we're
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  Speaker 1: not one hundred percent sure. We found something on untapped.
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  Speaker 1: I think that said it was seven percent, which is
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  Speaker 1: pretty hefty. Yeah, it's pretty solid, but also not surprising
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  Speaker 1: for a porter. So yeah, it's a fun Size is
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  Speaker 1: what the name is. But it's also kind of a
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  Speaker 1: fun can, pink and yellow, and yeah, it's got a
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  Speaker 1: bright like designed. If you couldn't read, or if this
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  Speaker 1: wasn't a different language, you might think this can was
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  Speaker 1: like a strawberry lemonade or something like that before you
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  Speaker 1: open it up.
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  Speaker 2: It's not anywhere near a strawberry lemonade porter with chocolate
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  Speaker 2: and vanilla. I think you already said that.
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  Speaker 1: But so it should be pretty smooth, I think, which
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited for.
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  Speaker 2: I'm excited.
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  Speaker 1: I don't feel good on the the old esophagus after
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  Speaker 1: those hall of pan yos go down.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's it's already not not very warm in
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  Speaker 2: my mouth anymore. So oh yeah, very nice, dark dark
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  Speaker 2: color Yep. It's got a little bit of brown to it,
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  Speaker 2: like the chocolate brown. I like, that's kind of nice.
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  Speaker 2: It's not dark dark. Oh that smells good. You definitely
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  Speaker 2: smell the chocolate and vanilla in there. This is this
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  Speaker 2: is gonna be a nice treat. Well.
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  Speaker 1: I got this because I think was it last week
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  Speaker 1: or two weeks ago you mentioned Line and Cool's snow
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  Speaker 1: drift yellow porter, and I saw this on the shelf,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, we both like that snow drift
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  Speaker 1: vanilla porter.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe this is Iowa's version of that. Yeah, and neither
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  Speaker 2: of us have had this before, right, you haven't had
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  Speaker 2: helped never had it. So let's try it out school.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go, oh, yeah, that's really good. I get a
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  Speaker 2: lot of chocolate. Oh yeah. Usually when like a porter
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  Speaker 2: like this says like chocolate vibes, I'd never really pick
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  Speaker 2: up on that. But I'm definitely getting that the chocolate
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  Speaker 2: and the vanilla is really good. And then you get
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  Speaker 2: the vanilla on the back end. You get that like
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  Speaker 2: it's almost like marshmallowy like s'mores almost like it's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: the aftertaste of a s'more if you put chocolate on
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  Speaker 2: your smore, which actually typically I do not. I like
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  Speaker 2: a plane's more with the interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Do you put like other stuff like riases or I've
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  Speaker 1: done races before. I'll do chocolate from time to time,
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  Speaker 1: but I've never been a big chocolate fan.
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  Speaker 2: But ies, I like this. This is good. Yeah, so, uh,
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  Speaker 2: blind Bridge, really good job on this. I think sometimes
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to try this on draft because this
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  Speaker 2: seems like like it's it's super delicious out of the can.
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  Speaker 2: But I feel like out out of the draft would
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  Speaker 2: just put it way over the top of the smoothness
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  Speaker 2: on tap would be awesome. It would add that creaminess
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  Speaker 2: that the can just doesn't quite give you. This is amazing.
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  Speaker 2: If you haven't tried it, give it a try. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know. Maybe do you know if this is like
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  Speaker 2: a seasonal thing or if they put this out all
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  Speaker 2: year round? I do not know that I haven't seen
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  Speaker 2: the can before.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it looked pretty new to me, so I was
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  Speaker 1: kind of it caught my eye obviously because it's a
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  Speaker 1: pretty eye catching can design, and like, well, let's try it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So here we are. So the last few weeks
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  Speaker 2: we've been kind of talking about a handful of breweries
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  Speaker 2: and haven't We haven't really said it yet, but I
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  Speaker 2: think we're kind of putting together a solid list of
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  Speaker 2: breweries for you know, the Skull Hop, brew Hop two
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  Speaker 2: point zero, and I think we need to make Lion Bridge.
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  Speaker 2: I know we went there on the first brew hop,
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  Speaker 2: but I should try to make them a good priority
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  Speaker 2: for the next time we go. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely enjoyed our short time there. They were
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  Speaker 1: kind of on the tail end of our first brew hop.
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  Speaker 1: We were a little tired and the day was ending
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  Speaker 1: and we needed to get back home. So I don't
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  Speaker 1: think we spend as much time there as maybe we
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  Speaker 1: could have, but it was. It would definitely be worth
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  Speaker 1: going back and spending a little more time there.
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  Speaker 2: I would enjoy that. Keep your eyes peeled. Sometime in
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  Speaker 2: the future. Sure there might be another brew hop two
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  Speaker 2: point zero. Maybe maybe it'll be next summer, maybe it'll
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  Speaker 2: be sometime sooner. I don't know. We haven't really even
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  Speaker 2: talked about that yet, but that'll be fun.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but really good beer. And if it's on tap there,
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  Speaker 1: m hmm. If and when we go in the near future,
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  Speaker 1: I would love to try it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So all right, Well, we've gotta talk about this win
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  Speaker 1: the Vikings.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll win. They finally did it for the first
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  Speaker 2: time and in a few weeks. Yeah, so yeah, let's
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  Speaker 2: talk about it. That a lot of good things to
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  Speaker 2: talk about, And I mean, if you're a pessimist, there
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  Speaker 2: could be a lot of bad things too. But I
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  Speaker 2: think overall the game was pretty awesome. I saw a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people complain about the defense, and I don't
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  Speaker 2: really get that because I thought the defense played fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: The defense didn't allow the Colts into the red zone
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  Speaker 2: at all, red zone at all, and they only allowed
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  Speaker 2: The defense only allowed the Colts to score six points
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  Speaker 2: field goals. Those two field goals the touchdown came on
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  Speaker 2: that scoop and score. That is kind of controvert that
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  Speaker 2: you had a little bit less negative of a take
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  Speaker 2: on that one that I did. But yeah, that scoop
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  Speaker 2: and score was pretty awful. We'll talk about that here.
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  Speaker 2: At the defense, you could say they gave another opportunity
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  Speaker 2: for a field goal. It was a fifty three yarder
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  Speaker 2: that I think it was a fifty three yarder. That
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  Speaker 2: is it William Gay what's his Matt Matt Gae? Okay,
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  Speaker 2: that's probably some like I know historical figure that I'm
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  Speaker 2: thinking of. But yeah, Matt Gay, he missed. I think
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  Speaker 2: it was his first field goal attempt, just like Unfortunately
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  Speaker 2: will Record miss his first two.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, or he's only too Matt Gay and will Record
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  Speaker 1: traded fifty three yard misses in the first or second quarter.
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  Speaker 2: I think so.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they both missed from fifty three. Will Record unfortunately
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  Speaker 1: sounds like he's injured.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, which I'll attribute his misses to that, just because
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  Speaker 2: I don't know any better. But all that to say,
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  Speaker 2: the defense only actually gave up six points and could
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  Speaker 2: have given up another three, but it's still the kick
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  Speaker 2: was not good. So I thought the defense, the Vikings
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  Speaker 2: defense played fantastic. I thought Justin Jefferson. Yeah, he didn't
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  Speaker 2: get in the end zone, but man, he's really proving
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  Speaker 2: to be the same old amazing Justin Jefferson Again. Sam Darnold,
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  Speaker 2: aside from a couple of mishaps, played generally pretty good.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of good things to talk about in this game. Well,
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  Speaker 2: should we talk roses and thorns? Yeah? Fore get into that,
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  Speaker 2: all right, what's what's your first rose? Any roses?
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: You've got a good list here. I'm just gonna pick
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: one off of here, Cam Acres. Yeah, we've been going
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  Speaker 1: back to last season. We've been pounding the table for
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  Speaker 1: this guy to be a more prominent part of the
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: Vikings offense. And we finally saw that last night. And
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: we were texting each other during the game, like, what
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: happened to ty Chandler?
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  Speaker 2: Where is that guy? I had asked you at one point?
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: Was ty Chandler even active for the game? Was?
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  Speaker 1: He wasn't on the list of in act which would
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  Speaker 1: lead us to assume that he was active.
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  Speaker 2: But he didn't see the field.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he touched the ball at all, and
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he ever made it off the sideline.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I made a I made a mental note that
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  Speaker 2: I forgot about to check ty Chandler's snap count, but
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  Speaker 2: I never did that. But maybe if you, if you
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  Speaker 2: talk here for a minute, I can look that up.
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  Speaker 1: Well, while you do that, Cam Akers looked really, really good,
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: kind of coming in in relief for Aaron Jones. Aaron
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Jones looked pretty decent himself. And I think that's been
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: the recipe for success with a guy like Aaron Jones.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: If Aaron Jones is RB one, he is not going
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: to be the Adrian Peterson two hundred.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: Yards a game kind of guy.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: That's just and that's not how running backs function right
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: now in the league of Derrick Henry. You know you're
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: not going to be racking up all these yards and
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: scoring three touchdowns a game and taking the weight of
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: the team on your shoulders.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Literally.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: It's usually this multi back approach. Some teams have two,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: some teams have three. And we've seen ty Chandler with
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: splashes this year of being okay, but he just hasn't
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: really like hit that stride.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: He's I feel like his whole Viking's career, which I
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: think this has got to be either his third or
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: fourth year. I think it's his third. I think he
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: was a rookie in Kos's first year and twenty two.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: Tych Chandler just he's always felt like, oh man, he's
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: about to break out. Oh he's about to do something good,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: and he just never quite gets the opportunities. And then
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: now that he has gotten the opportunities this year and
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: some last year too, he just never lived up to it.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: He's like that wild card in your hand that you
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: never really get to play, and when you do, it's
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: just not at the right spot. Like I just think unfortunately,
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: he has proven that he's someone that looks like he's
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: got all this potential but has never really own it,
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: not too much, unlike Canaye and Wanglu. Yeah, but I
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: looked it up. The Internet says that ty Chandler had
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: no offensive or defensive snaps where he played seven snaps
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: on special teams against the Colts. So yeah, and that
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: makes sense.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: A guy like him who's talented enough, you're gonna see
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: him on those special teams reps if he's not making
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: it out onto the field on offense. But all of
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: that to say, cam Akers had some really explosive runs.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: He got a few first downs. He had like what
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: two or three first downs in a row.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there was one drive which I think ended up
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: either in a turnover or a punt, But for most
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: of the drive, cam Akers was looking pretty good. People
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: were tweeting like, hey, this is a cam Akers breakout drive,
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: and I think it's those kinds of things when you
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: can rely on your RB two to come in spell
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: out Aaron Jones, who is getting older and just keeps
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: playing more and more snaps, and outside of missing what
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: one and a half games of injury, he's been looking good.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: You can't keep throwing Aaron Jones one hundred percent of
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: the time out there. So having a guy like Cam Akers,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: who you could be confident, we'll get three yards here,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: we'll get seven yards here. He can we can trust
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: him to get a first down if we need it.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: That's huge. That can change a game.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: And even if that drive where he went he had, Yeah,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: I remember he had three big plays boom boom, boom,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: and I'm pretty sure they were all first downs. I
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: can't remember precisely. We could go back and look, but
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: even if that drive ended in a turnover or a
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: punt or whatever, those are building blocks for the later
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: part of the season. And now Kevin O'Connell and Wes Phillips,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: they've got this building block of all right, Aaron Jones
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: RB one, we've kind of had this question mark of
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: RB two. We started the season with ty Chandler, we
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: made that trade for Cam Akers and brought him back
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: to Minnesota from Houston. We kind of now know who
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: that number two is. Yeah, I think, without a shadow
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: of a doubt he's earned that spot as RB two,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: and ty Chandler that spot.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: Well, And I would argue, and maybe I think you'll
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: fully agree with this. Cam Akers earned that spot last year,
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: and he was working his way to earning the RB
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: one spot, yeah, before his second Achilles terarra his career.
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: And I think if not for that Achilles terra, which
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: wasn't in the breakout like Josh Dobbs Atlanta Falcons game
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: that he played really good, but then towards the end
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: of it tours.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: I don't remember when he tore his ACL but I
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: do remember in that Falcons game he trucked somebody defensive tackle. Yeah,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: he was out in front blocking for Josh Dobbs on
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: a play that blew up and Dobbs just had to get.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: It with his feet and he just blew to somebody up.
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: It was awesome, but it's a fun play. All that
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: to say, I think in twenty twenty three, cam Akers
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: was winning. He was beating out Ty Chandler, he was
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: beating out Alex Madison, which the coaches, for whatever reason,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: just took forever. And we're very hesitant to get rid
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: of or you know, to pull Alex Madison out of
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: that RB one spot last year. But yeah, ty Chandler,
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: if not for that Achilles tear, you got to think
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: they would have, you know, signed him to another you know,
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: probably not a ten year contract, but another two or
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: three year contract after the season last year, and they
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: he would have been in the plans. And they're proven
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: that by trading for him again. And I think they
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: tried to sign him soon before the season started this
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: year once they figured out, okay, he is healthy. Miraculously
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: he is coming back from his second Achilles tear, and
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: that'll be an interesting thing if we ever get more
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: details on that, because it looked like the Vikings that
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: signed him, you know, per sources, the Vikings were gonna
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: sign him, and then all of a sudden, he went
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: to km akers and went to Houston and was a
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Texan for a few weeks and looked pretty good there,
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: and then the Vikings traded for him. So it's like,
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know if there was some
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: cold feet on either side to make sure he was
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: healthy enough. But I'm glad he's in purple. I'm glad
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: he's gonna get to play some more and he's definitely
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: looking good as the RB two. What do you got
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: for a rose from last night's game? I really like,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mentioned earlier Justin Jefferson. He's just we
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: all know he's good. We all know, and Vikings fans
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: like you and me love to say the best wide
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: receiver in football. I think everybody else would be like, well,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: he's definitely top five, but there's also this, this and
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: this guy. No, he's the best wide receiver in football.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: And he's consistent. He's not consistently getting three hundred receiving
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: yards and five touchdowns every game, but he's got what
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: seven straight games of eighty plus yards receiving. Now, yeah,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: it's not five hundred a week, but that's hard to do.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: That's like one of the longer streaks in NFL history,
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: and he's making it look easy. He's coming out and
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: like maturely being frustrated about only getting eighty yards receiving,
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: and then the last two weeks he's been what over
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: one hundred yards against the Colts and the and the Rams.
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: He's just he's looking great. He's proving continuously that we
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: can count on him. He's a really good player. He
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: is the captain captain, he is the offense MVP, and
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: we're only hearing good things about him. So that's that's
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: my biggest rows.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Well, And if anybody wanted to argue about Justin Jefferson
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: is not the best in the league right now, well
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: you can go look at the receiving yards and he's
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: at the top of that list right now. And he's
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: done that with one fewer game than most of the
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: other guys that are in like the top five or
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: top ten on that list. So I mean, we're gonna
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: be homers. We're going to always, you know, be behind
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: the guys that are on the team and you know,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: sing their praises, and Justin Jefferson is definitely a praise
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: worthy player. He's a very good player. I don't think
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: anybody would disagree with us on that. But now there's
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: finally some concrete proof he is the best in the league,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: at least in terms of receiving yards. Now, he probably
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: doesn't have as many receiving touchdowns. Those have been low
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: this Year's got four or five this year, But the
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: first four games he had a touchdown and every games, yeah, yeah,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: that's up and down. He's never been like a traditional
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: touchdown machine. But I think what's interesting to note with
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson is, aside from these last couple of games,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: they don't need Justin Jefferson to go out and get
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: one hundred and forty yards, one hundred and sixty yards,
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: two hundred yards or whatever to win a game. They
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: need him to be consistent, they need him to go
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: out and run his routes, They need him to go
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: out on block, which he does. They were saying on
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: the broadcast last night that there are some guys when
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: they reach his status that they just they're like, no,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: don't I don't want to run block, don't put me
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: out there on those plays.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: But the deep every time, yep.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Just I want the sexy plays, I want the cool plays.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I want the ones that are going to get me
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: all the attention. And he's just not that guy. And
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: so that's just for the future of this franchise, for
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: what we've got beyond this year, I'm really excited, and
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: he's a big reason why for sure. Yeah, any other
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: roses for you, Gosh, I think we'd be remiss if
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: we didn't talk about Cam Robinson.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Man, that was incredible.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: I Mean, the dude was traded days before he made
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: his first start as a Viking, and he filled in admirably.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: It wasn't perfect, it wasn't always pretty but I don't
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: think he didn't allow a sack. The sacks that Sam
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: Darnold took weren't his responsibility. They weren't the guy that
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Cam was responsible for blocking. I think he was credited
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: with like two pressures. Maybe maybe somebody got past him
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: and almost got to Sam but didn't sack him. But yeah,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: all of that to say, you know, his first day
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: of practice was Wednesday, and he comes out and plays
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Sunday night, and he played pretty well. I think the
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: future is good there too for the Vikings. And honestly,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I think if he's cheap enough, you look at re
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: signing him for next year and add depth and security
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: when Dariso's back and healthy. And also I mean he
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: could move inside and play a guard position and help
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: out where the Vikings have been really weak, especially on
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: the right side.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so well, and that too. I don't know what Cameron.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know a whole ton about Cam Robinson, how
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: flexible he is on moving around. But I think we've
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: seen the last handful of years. Brian O'Neil, who also
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: is amazing and is you know, I think he's a
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: bona fide pro bowler and really good one. Of the
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: top right tackles in the league in his own right.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: But I mean, he has been known every year to
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: at least missed one or two games. I think, you know,
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: you play a physical position like that, you're gonna get
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: banged up every once in a while. And I think
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: he's been totally healthy so far this year. But to
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: have an elite, a really good level backup at the
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: tackle position who theoretically could play left or right would
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: be huge. I'd be all for signing him again next year,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: especially with the idea that Christian Darsaw, who today Monday,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: November fourth, just had surgery, he might be out a
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: full calendar year. It's the same type of injury that TJ.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: Hockinson had and he missed, you know what, ten ish
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: months of football. We don't know that Darrisaw is going
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: to be ready to go for the start of the season.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: And you got to think Quac and Koc have already
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: talked about every scenario in the future and maybe even
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: said like, Okay, what would it cost assuming it's just
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: one game and he looked really good at one game,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: but assuming Cam Robinson is somebody they want to re sign,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: what would that cost? And maybe they're already kind of
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: moving the dollars around a plan for that, but I'd
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: be all for it. The Vikings offensive line, especially the inside,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: has been pretty tough this year and in recent years.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: So anytime you can keep really good guys at that
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: position group, I'm here for it. Well, there's that one play.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: It was the scoop and score.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Where was it who was it that got back to
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Sam Donald and sacked him and forced the fumble?
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: I can't remember one of their interior defense or something
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: like that. Yeah, I mean really good players.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Anyway, he just flat out ran over Garrett Bradbury, flattened
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: him like a pancake, got home to Sam Donald. Sam
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: fumbles the football and then scoop and score touchdown.
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: It was the only Cults touchdown of the day. You
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: would fumble the football too if you got punched in
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: the face. Well yeah, and should we go on that tangent.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Let's do it. Let's do it because we have a
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: little differing opinions. And I'm a little hardcore, more hardcore
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: about it than you are, But that's okay.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, and we were texting about it at first.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: It seemed pretty egregious, like the previous game where he
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: was ripped down by his face mask to end the
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: game against the Rams on.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: A safety in the end zone.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: That was an obvious miscall that the player got fined
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: for by the league. But there's still no repercussion for
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: the the officiating crew missing that call, and that's what's frustrating,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: I think for teams, players, coaches. So the hit that
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: he took on that play was not an egregious face.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Mask yesterday in the Colts game, Yes, that's what I'm
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: referring to.
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: There wasn't this you know, legitimate claw into the face
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: mask and.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: There was no turning or anything. There was impact.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: There was, you know, the forceful impact, and I guess
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: I didn't fully understand the rule until whoever the NBC
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: rules analysts that they bring in when there's controversial stuff
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: like that. I don't know who it is, but he
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: came on and said, well, there was forcible contact to
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: the header neck area and the ref if you remember,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: originally through the flag and then he picked it up
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: and said there's no foul on the play touchdown Colts.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: So after hearing the rules analysts say there was forcible
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: to the head or neck area, then I was like, well,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: maybe maybe it could be, but it's still kind of
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: it's incidental contact. It's not like he was just like
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: in a street fight and going to punch Sam Darnold.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: His arm just swings around as he's trying to make
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: the tackle and accidentally hits, And the rules don't really
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: account for accidental versus intentional stuff like that, So I
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: don't know. That's where there's like a little bit of
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: a gray area for me. And I can understand why
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: they picked up the flag. I don't like that they
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: picked up the flag. It would have been nice if
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: they kept the flag and they didn't score a touchdown
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: and the Vikings get fifteen yards and they hopefully score
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: a touchdown and it's an even bigger margin of victory.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: For Vikings last night. But that just wasn't the case.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: You saw it differently though. I mean, yes, first and
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: foremost that Colt Grover. I'm not sure who exactly it
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: was that Colt was not intentionally there was no great
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: just missed. There was no you know, Grover Stewart. Grover Stewart,
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: he was not trying to hurt or injure anybody. He
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: wasn't trying to punch Sam Bradford in the face. Darnald,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Good grief. How many times have I done that? Oh
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: my gosh. I probably if we went back and really
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: picked at everything I've said this season, I probably called
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: Sam Donald Sam Bradford, I think more than times.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: No, it's less than ten, but at least once or twice.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: It's the colt was playing football. It was a football.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: It was a bang bang football play. He was trying
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: to sack the quarterback, get the ball. Totally fair, totally fine, however,
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: and it wasn't that Donald is a quarterback in that moment.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: It was a hit to the head or neck area
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: of a defensive little player, which and I think the
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: reason they picked up the flag I think I saw
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: on the post report was the ref through the flag
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: because he was calling a face mask. And then they
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: talked and they were like, I mean, he didn't there
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: was it wasn't a face mask, which very true, was
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: a face mask. So they picked it up. They didn't
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: address and say, I mean it was a hit to
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: the header neck area, which that's what Koc was trying
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: to say when he was yelling on and we could
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: see him on TV. He was trying to say header
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: neck area. What's going on here? Yeah, And I think
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: that's an interesting wrinkle to the game because, yes, that
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: clause at the end of that rule forcible contact to
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: the header neck area of a defenseless player, which Sam
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: clearly was in that moment. But I think you just.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Uncovered something about how games are officiated. One guy through
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: the flag, right, and in his mind he's it's not
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: like he's like audibly saying out loud that's a face mask,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: and all the other officials can hear it, and then
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: they confer afterwards and doing No, man, that wasn't a
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: face mask. He throws the flag without saying anything. Nobody
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: knows why he threw the flag. I mean, we can
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: make our assumptions. We can see what we saw, right,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: but we don't know what he's gonna call, and we
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: don't know the perspective that he had on the play.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: So it makes me wonder if like that eye in
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: the sky or the replay assist that was really a
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: factor early on in a Yeah, they sent I think
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: the officiating, the NFL officiating crew as a whole, was
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: trying to send a message to the Vikings like, hey,
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: we're not here to screw you over because they were
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: giving them first downs when it was really really close.
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: And then the officials on the field were like, well,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: according to replay assist, that's a first down to change in.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: For ten seconds on that replay assist. There was one
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: moment late in the game Aaron Jones, it was either
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: a short run or a quick pass. He got really
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: close to the first down on like second down, and
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: on the TV and everybody, and initially I think was
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: called short of the first down. And it was at
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: the point in the game where the Vikings were trying
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: to run some clock and I was thinking, like, oh,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: that's kind of nice that they didn't get the first
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: down because now it's second in less than one and
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: they can bleep clock a little bit more and hopefully
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: get the Colts to burn some timeouts and then replace
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: this came in and said, oh, no, you got the
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: first down. It's like, ah, that that actually kind of
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: stings a little bit because now you get less chances
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: to bleed clock. Anyways, keep on going back to what
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: you're doing.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Well, all of that to say, like, I think it
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: just uncovers the inconsistencies, the incongruities and Ultimately, this this
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: huge like lack of equity when it comes to officiating
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: in the NFL, and we're I'm not gonna be the
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Vikings fan. I don't think you're gonna be the Vikings
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: fan that is gonna say, well, if that happened to
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Patrick mahomes a right like, I'm not gonna sit here
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: and make that claim. Do certain players get certain privileges?
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Do they Do they get some leeway?
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Maybe? Yeah. We saw it forever with Aaron Rodgers, and
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: to be fair, I think we're seeing it a little
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: bit occasionally with Justin Jefferson too. I think I forget
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: the game, maybe the Lions game. I forget what it was,
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: but Jefferson was getting some calls his way that maybe
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: not everybody else gets. But anyway, I think I think
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: the NFL Officiating Committee needs to really take a good
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: long look at some of these penalties we talked.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: We've talked about holding recently. There's holding on every single play.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: I think you need to redefine it. If this is
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: holding me just simply grabbing your shirt, that's not an
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: egregious penalty that affects the play of football in my opinion.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Sorry if I offend a dudeh sag holding No, I
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: think you need to redefine that, and I also think
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: you need to continue to not redefined, but you need
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: to continue to work out these logistics on defenseless players,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: pass interference, face mask, these these egregious penalties that result
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: in injury, right, because they're always going to say, oh,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: we're trying to make the league a safer place, We're
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: trying to make this a safer game. We're trying to
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: keep these players around for longer and keep them healthy.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: And blah blah blah.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Well put your money where your mouth is then, right, like,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: actually do something that makes a difference rather than make
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: the game entirely more confusing for everybody. Yeah, and Koc
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: was quoted. I think today Kevin Seaffert tweeted something about
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: how Kevin O'Connell has approached the league about this multiple
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: times now, going back to last week with the very
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: obvious face mask that wasn't called, and then this last
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: week with the punch to the face from Grover Stewart
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, And he was quoted saying something along the
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: lines of, I'm learning very quickly that my opinion doesn't matter. Yeah, yeah,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: and that's kind of concerning too, Like when a head
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: coach can't even like respectfully approach the situation here and say, hey,
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: this happened and it's now happened two weeks in a
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: row to my quarterback, the most important player on my team,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: what gives and they're just like, no, no, no, you don't
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: matter exactly. That's concerning to me absolutely. I think Roger
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Goodell needs to fix that, and whoever's in charge of officiating.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: In the NFL needs to figure that out too. Yeah.
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: And I think a quick solution to that is and
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: maybe it's already being you know, we joke about it
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: a minute ago. Being an active is the eye in
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: the sky. I think you trust and you let the
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: refs on the field make their calls to the best
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: of their ability. And I say it a thousand times,
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: I'll say it again. The refs in the NFL I'm
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: a fan of. Generally they make calls that are very
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: tough calls to make, and most of the time they're right.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Like I get creeped out by how often they make
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: a correct call in real time, but I mean, everybody's human.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: I think that eye in the sky needs to have
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: full authority, and maybe they do. I don't know it
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: the ins and outs of that, fully, but they need
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: to have full authority to be able to jump into
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: a game and just make the right call, whether it's
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: a penalty or a no penalty or I mean anything,
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: maybe they have to stop it for rain delay like that.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: There should be a way to have an authority come
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: in and just make the common sense right call whenever
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: they have to and not leave it up to you know,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: solely leave it up to the guys on the field.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Hopefully they make the right call.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: And you've got to imagine it's not one guy who's
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: sitting in a studio in New York watching this multi
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: screen view of the sixteen games that are happening or
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: whatever all at once, right, Like, there's probably a team
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: of people in a studio with access to all sorts
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: of camera angles that we might not even see as
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: just the general public watching the broadcast. Like, I fully
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: agree with you. The technologies there, it's twenty.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: Twenty four.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Each game, each location can be in touch with New
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: York in an instant and New York has played a
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: role in games before. And yeah, I fully agree with you,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: and I would support a full authority of the eye
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: in the sky because the other thing too is they're
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: going to have access to camera footage that the refs
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: don't have. Right, the refs have one perspective. It's their perspective.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: It's what their two eyeballs communicate to their brain, and
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: it's what their brain meshes with their knowledge of the
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: game and their knowledge of the rule book to make
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: the call on the field. But if somebody that has
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: thirteen different camera angles and can see that was a catch,
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: that wasn't a catch. Oh yeah, he definitely grabbed the
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: face mask there, or oh yeah, there was definitely forcible
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: contact there. I don't know if you caught this, but
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: in the Lions game, the Lions Packers game, it wasn't
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Kirby Joseph.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: It was Branch. Yeah. Yeah.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: He got ejected from the game. And that was kind
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: of interesting because he made the hit on the Packers
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: player and they threw the flag because it was unnecessary roughness.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: It was helmet to helmet and you know, torpedo helmet
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: obviously the stuff that they're trying to, you know, get
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: out of the game. And it was just a simple penalty.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: It was just fifteen yards whatever, and then all of
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: a sudden, right before the next play, they whistle the
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: play dead and they come over the PA.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: He's out of the game. I forget his name, Branch.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: It's not Dion Branch, is it. I don't remember. That
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: sounds wrong. That probably is right, I don't know, but yeah,
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: that guy. Yeah.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: So anyways, it was just interesting how long it took
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: for New York I'm assuming, to review the play make
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: the decision, and I wonder, like, what goes into that?
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: Who's involved in that?
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Is there a team of people, are they looking at
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: multiple different angles?
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: What?
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: You know, what are the characteristics of a hit like
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: that that they're looking at? To deem, Okay, that's an
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: ejection wherey hit versus Nope, he's good, he can stay
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: in the game, but the fifteen yard penalty stands. Yeah,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: you know whatever. That all of that to say, I
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: stand by what I've said. They need to take a good, hard,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: long look at all of this to improve the game
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: for everybody.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: And I think for the most part, anytime New York
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: has come in and made a correction or made their
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: own call, it's not like it's been a newsworthy thing
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: that they've made a wrong call. I mean, yeah, if
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: you're a Lions fan, maybe you don't agree that that
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: player should have been ejected, but I think pretty objectively
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: he should have been ejected. So it's not like they
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: come in frequently it's like, oh no, that wasn't a
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: first down, even though it's plain to see it was
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: a first down, or oh yeah, I know he fad
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: you know, ripped him down by his face mask, even
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: though his hand wasn't close to his helmet. You know,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: they usually come in and make the right call, so
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: let him keep coming in.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: We've spent way too much time this season on this
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: podcast talking about NFL officiating.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: There have been multiple episodes now where we've tangented, got
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: off on tangents.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been interesting. A side tangent from the tangent.
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: Do you believe the the bounty gate conspiracy against the Lions,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: because that's I saw that quite a bit today too.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: I think Dan Campbell for context, if you didn't know,
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: it was a part of the coaching staff in New
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Orleans during the original bounty Gate where they were legitimately
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: hedging bets on injuring Vikings players in that nine NFC
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: championship well, and.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Really the whole season that for a while, yes.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: But it really culminated in that championship game against the Vikings.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Brett farv Adrian Peterson, is that what you want to do?
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: You want to depress me right now.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: I'm just asking your opinion on if you think the
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: Lions are continuing that. You know, however many years later,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: fifteen years later.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: I would be surprised. I think I'd be rationally. I
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: think I'd be surprised if they actually had any kind
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: of somewhat formal program or you know, under the table
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: agreement like okay, if you knock this guy out, here's
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: ten thousand dollars or whatever. I'd be shocked. But it
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: is funny to think about because there is that connection.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: The Lions do seem to be just right above the
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: line of you know, playing fair and playing correctly. They
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: seem to be crossing that line a little bit. But
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: also the lines are really good. Like you just said,
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: I don't know, it's a fun thing that people like
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: to tweet out. I'd be shocked if they had any
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: kind of a bounty gate program going on. So you're
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: gonna claim clickbait is what you're going to do so far,
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: but I mean, nothing's impossible. I would just be pretty surprised.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Interesting, all right, any other roses that you want to
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: hit from this Vikings game, we'd really detoured there for
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: a minute.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, yeah, we we let the thorns
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: kind of creep into our roses and thorns. I think
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: the only other thing I wrote down for roses were that,
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: like I said earlier, people some people on Twitter were
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: kind of complaining about the defense. But I think for
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: the first time in a few weeks, this Vikings defense
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: looked like the first couple of games of the season
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Flora's defense. We were seeing it. The movement pre snap,
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: the h you saw a lot more pressure, You saw
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: a lot of you saw a.
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Lot more of that exotic we're gonna send nine ten
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: at the line, or we're gonna send seven or eight
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: and then draw back several and coverage. Like you just
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: saw a lot of mixed looks that we haven't seen
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: for a few weeks. We saw a little bit more
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: of this conservative shell defense, play it safe against these teams,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: which I don't really fully understand why.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: I think losing Blake Cashman is a huge loss yeah,
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: and I think they figured out one, two, three different
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: ways to kind of mitigate that cash man hole. I noticed,
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: and they may have been doing this for a while,
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: but I noticed for the first time last night that
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: Van Ginkel was on the inside a lot more as
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: opposed to being like that edge rusher. And again, maybe
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: it's just something I've missed from previous games, and he's
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: been on the inside a ton, but maybe they're relying
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: on him a little bit more. You still saw those blitzes,
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: but it seemed like the blitzes were either getting home
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: at the end of the game. They didn't get a
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: sack until close to the end of the fourth quarter.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: They were in a row. Yeah, Yeah, that's the thing.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: They didn't have one all game and then they had three.
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: But they were either getting home or affecting the play
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: in a very good way for the defense. All that
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: to say, another rose is that this Vikings defense looked
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: like they had been looking at the beginning of the season. Yeah.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: I think friend of the Show Dustin Baker tweeted out
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: something today on the defensive epa per play or something.
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: I don't understand all of those stats. Yeah, completely a
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: little above my pay grade. But anyways, he tweeted out
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: something that through the first like five games, when the
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: Vikings were five and zero, the Vikings defense was first
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: in the league and at EPA per play stat whatever
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: that algorithm that.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Is that decides that.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: And then in the next two games that they dropped,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: they were twenty eighth in the league, and then last
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: night they were first. So it's just been kind of
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: this hot and cold, and I agree with you. I
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: think Cashman is a part of that, but I don't
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: know that he's the only one responsible.
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Yes, he was the green dot.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: Yes he's kind of the quarterback of the defense when
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: he's in the game. But I think it's also encouraging
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: and that's why it's a rose for us. It's a
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: good thing for us last night that this defense got
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: back to its ways without that guy. Yeah, and again
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: that goes back to what I said about cam Akers
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: being a good RBT. It's one of those building blocks,
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: like you have to have these contingencies.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: You gotta know, Okay, if X is gone, if Y
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: is gone, or if Z is gone, whoever is gone,
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: we got we gotta keep playing football. We can't just
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: lay down and take our lumps and hope that everything
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: turns out okay, And when you get to the playoffs,
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: it's single elimination. You lose, you go home. Yeah. So,
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: and whatever you did in the regular season, if you
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: went undefeated, it doesn't matter. Yep. Yeah, absolutely.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: If Blake Cashman is injured in the wild card round
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: and the Vikings are playing that weekend, you've got to
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: have a solution to that problem.
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: And it is a problem.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: But you can't just you know, play like we've played
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks and expect to make it
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: through a wild card game.
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: That's just not going to be the reality. Yeah. Well,
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: and sometimes too, if a guy's injured or if one
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: piece is gone. Yeah, the common thing to say is like,
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: all right, next man up, Okay, darrisaw is out, Let's
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: go with Berry or trade for one guy. Sometimes it's
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: not as simple as next man up. And yeah, maybe
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: they're not as good as the first guy, but they'll
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: have to still fill that role. I mean, sometimes you
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: need next men up and you need to kind of
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: rethink things. And I'm not saying anything that an actual
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: like football coach doesn't know. And you know, that's how
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: football coaches make their money is being able to win
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: despite adversity. So yeah, it's it. I think maybe the
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: defense with cash Man out, took that next man up
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: mentality and just kind of plugged Ivon Pace in there.
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: And maybe they did a couple other things, but it
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: seemed like it was just all right, I even here
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: you go. And I mean, he's still young, he's still
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: not Pro Bowl worthy. He's good, he'll get there hopefully,
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: but he's not quite good enough to just plug and play.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: You gotta support him, just like every other position on
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: the field.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: So the rose is definitely that the defense looked way
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: better than it has And you.
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: Mentioned a couple of losses.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we've mentioned some specific things, right, like not allowing
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: the Colts a single play.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: In the red zone, which was great. There were no
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: offensive touchdowns.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: The only touchdown they scored was that scoop and score,
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: and then they had two field goals. So the defense
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: definitely seemed like it returned to form. And again, all
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: of that without Blake Cashman. So you get a guy
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: like that back and this defense is as unstoppable as ever.
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: And go figure. We spend a week or two kind
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: of talking about is Dallas Turner a bus? Is he
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: he looks good, figuring things out. Is he not in
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: a classroom? What's going on with him? And then go
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: figure he comes out and yeah, he didn't have ten sacks.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: I think he might have gotten a half sack, but
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: he definitely affected that game, Oh for sure. A couple
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: quarterback hits, he was rushing, he was covering in the backfield,
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: he was around, and yeah, I don't think he played
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: all sixty years one whatever plays, but he was playing
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: like you would hope a first round pick, a mid
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: first round pick would be playing here eight or so
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: games into his rookie year. It was. It was encouraging
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: to see.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: That was Yeah, that was definitely a positive sign in
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: good news for the future and again another building block
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: for where this team is headed, not just this season
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: but into the future as well.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: Right, all right, so we've kind of mixed in our
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: thorns with this, and the episode's getting a little long
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: on the tooth. So maybe maybe we each come up
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: with one thorn quick before we move on to game balls. Yeah,
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: do all right, So we both definitely talked about officiating,
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: and I think we kind of took that away from
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: an outright thorn and more of a point of contention here.
• 50:46
  Speaker 2: I guess my one thorn that I'm really going to
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: take away is I hope Will Rekerd is okay. Every
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: kick he made or attempted in the Colts game, he
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: kind of did a little hitch and is giddy up
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: after he kicked, whether it was a field goal attempt,
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: which he he's not perfect anymore. He missed the only
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: two field goal attempts he attempted yesterday. I think he
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: was still perfect on extra points. He was. He was
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: three for three on extra points, yep. And he was
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: still kicking off so they still had him out there,
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: and I think he had a heating pad on the
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: sideline whenever he was on the sideline. But yeah, I
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: think we still don't know as of Monday evening right
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: now how injured he is. Him and Andrew Depaula, who
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: I think they said he's gonna have a surgery and
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: he might be out three four ish weeks, might even
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: go on ir But yeah, that's my biggest thorn is
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: that kicking game, which has been a huge stable thing,
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: is now a little questionable right now.
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, special teams got a whole lot more questionable last
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: night with the injury to Depaula, your long snapper is
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: a key part of that Special Teams game. And then yeah,
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: Riker's injury. We're watching Monday night football right now.
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: Maholmes may have just suffered either it's nothing or it
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: could be as detrimental as an achilles. I don't want
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: to be too crazy right now, but he stepped quick
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: and now he's being shouldered a shoulder helped off the
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: field and doesn't look very happy. And again, all the
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: news is going to come out way before anybody hears
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: me speak these words. But yeah, there's going to need
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: to be a slow mo of him stepping down because
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: he took a hard step, threw a touchdown pass and
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: then limped off and either his achilles or his left knee.
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: It kind of looked like his knee kind of buckled
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: when he planted. This is a Vikings podcast, though.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Carson Wentz is warming up, though it's coming in
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: reprieve of.
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes there.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: Anyways, Yeah, all of that to say, Special Teams was
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: definitely a thorn.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: Not great for the Vikings.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: And you hope that those two guys aren't injured because
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: those two guys are kind of unsung heroes for this
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: Viking team.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: Andrew de Paula.
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: We don't talk about him a whole lot, but he
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: just he goes out, he does his job really well,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: and we never hear anything other than, oh, yeah, yeah,
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: we've got a good long snapper in Minnesota. To never
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: hear your long snapper's name other than oh, he donated
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: money to charity, like to never hear his name is
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: a beautiful thing because that means he didn't make a mistake.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: And will record.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: I think the only really big knock on him coming
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: into the Vikings organization is that he had an injury
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: in college twenty nineteen. He had a quad injury, and
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: that's what they're suspecting it is right now. So you
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: hope it's not that you're hoping for the best. But honestly,
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: you texted me last night, but you said twenty four
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: hours from now.
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: Which would be right about right now.
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: On that you know, you kind of expected Will Rekord
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: to be on the IR. That hasn't happened yet, but
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: I still think that's a pretty likely possibility. And I
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: think Kevin O'Connell was quoted today saying we'll have tryouts
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: or we'll be bringing in some kickers to do some
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: workouts and stuff and see what happens. So yeah, that's
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: definitely a big thorn. I'll take another thorn here, and
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: I'll take a moment to just point out this shirt
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: that we made. Evan's wearing, the purple Sammy D shirt.
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: It's obviously a play on Sunny D. Your favorite orange
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: juice from your childhood? Is it actual orange juice?
• 54:41
  Speaker 2: Can we say that it's one hundred percent vitamin C? Yeah?
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, if it's one hundred percent orange juice, I'm not
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: sure it's probably not. But anyways, I've always thought that
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: Sammy D was a fun play on Sonny D, and
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: so my wife made these awesome shirts. We'll link the
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: shirt designed down in the description here, so if you
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: want to get your own Sammy D T shirt, you
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: can go.
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: Ahead and get it plug plug her shop real quick.
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, A and J creative on te public and again
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: we'll link that down below as well. I think we
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: did it last week because I think we ordered these
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: shirts last week and they just came in. So anyways,
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: I thought they turned out really good and I'm excited
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: about him. AnyWho, I'm wearing his shirt. I'm still I'm
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: a believer in Sammy d. But he struggled in this game,
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: and that was a thorn. And the one interception that
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: he threw in the end zone, the first one that
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: he threw in the I think it was the first quarter.
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: That can't happen. He has to figure those things out.
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: He cannot force the ball. He needs to throw it
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: out of bounds. He needs to just take the sack.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: He needs to do whatever he can to not turn
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: the ball over. He turned He was responsible for all
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: three turnovers. Granted, the fumble was, you know, the result
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: of Grover Stewart coming through and just bulldozing Gary Brad which.
• 56:10
  Speaker 2: I'll ultimately say about that because I've been very critical
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: about the punch in the face quote unquote, Grover Stewart
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: made a good football play. Oh absolutely, I mean it
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: was a good play anyway, Sam Donald. All of that
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: to say, it's a thorn a little bit. And if
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: the Vikings are.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Going to make a run in the playoffs, if the
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: Vikings are going to do anything make any noise the
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: rest of the season, if Sam Donald wants to kind
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: of salvage his reputation as a quarterback in the NFL,
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: and wants to earn a big contract for himself, whether
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: that's with the Vikings probably not probably or with another
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: team next year. He's got to fix those things. He's
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: got to be more aware of what's going on. And
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: he just simply cannot make mistakes like that first interception in.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: The end zone that he threw.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: That was I mean, you you just don't see quarterbacks
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: make egregious mistakes like that. You see safeties or corners
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: sneak up on a receiver, didn't see him.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: This was This wasn't that.
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: This wasn't like I was sneakily in the background and
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: I just jumped the route and intercepted it. This was
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: Sam was trying to force it. Sam was trying to
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: make something happen. He was chased out of the pocket.
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: He did a great job getting out of the pocket,
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: escaping the pressure. He going to play alive. But then
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: when you look downfield and there's nothing there. You got
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: to throw it out of bounds. You got to take
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: the sack. You've got to do something other than give
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: the ball to the other team.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: Well, and he's really good at you know, you mentioned
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: throw it out of bounds or you know, take the
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: sack or whatever. He's really good at, even if it's
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: a yard or two running if that's his last option.
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: He's not a run first kind of quarterback. But he's
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: pretty athletic and he's proven it. Even last night in
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: the Colts game. I agree with you. He had a
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: few pretty awful plays. That interception, There's no question about it.
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: He was very critical of himself on that fumble that
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: was a scoop and score for the Colts. He just
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: I think the first thing he really said was I
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: can't drop the ball in that situation, like I can't
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: funnel the ball. He didn't even address, you know, a
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: potential non call penalty. But I will say he overall,
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: yesterday was a good game for Sam. Darnold agreed. I
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: know you weren't saying it was a terrible game for him.
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: He just had a few pretty awful mistakes, and in
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: a lot of games, some of those mistakes can lose
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: you the game. The Vikings defense was good enough to
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: overcome those and then him and the rest of the
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: offense were good enough to overcome those mistakes too. But
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: I think overall it's a net positive. I don't know
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: what the stats say all the you know, all the fun,
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: crazy in depth stats that Dustin Baker likes to throw out,
• 58:53
  Speaker 2: But I mean he still had a really good game
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: and three second half touchdowns. That touchdown road to Jordan Addison.
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: I don't know how he physically got the ball off. Yeah,
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: it wasn't placed one hundred percent perfectly, and Jordan Addison
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: still had to make a highlight reel catch. But I
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: mean Sam Donald still ran around and got that ball
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: off and put it in a place where obviously Addison
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: could catch it. I think overall net positive, good game
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: for Sam Donald.
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and he certainly redeemed himself in the second half.
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: All three of those scores came in the second half.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: He did have that interception right after Byron Murphy had
• 59:34
  Speaker 2: his interception, but after that, you know, he was pretty good.
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: I agreed, and.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: To put the ball on Jordan Addison like he did,
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: and gosh, we haven't really talked about Jordan Addison pulling
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: that thing in, but that was a heck of a
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: play by that kid too.
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: Wow, that was awesome. Addison's catch was that was one
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: that will be played on his career highlight reel. That
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: was a crazy, insane catch that bounced around and it
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 2: plain a day. There is no controversy on whether that
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: touched the ground or anything. He was beautiful. It was
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: an amazing catch.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, that catch will be overshadowed by the Garrett Wilson
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: catch on Thursday Night Football earlier.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: This Oh my gosh, that which that was incredible too.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: But I think had that catch not happened on Thursday Night, everybody.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: In the league might be talking about that catch. Addison's
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: might be the best catch, touchdown catch of the weekend.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: But yeah, no question about Garrett Wilson. To get that
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: shin or thigh down and just the jump man logo
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: of his catch, that was crazy. That was awesome.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: It was all right, let's hand out some game balls here.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: Who do you got on offense?
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: All right, offense, I'll just go really quick too. Offense.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: We've talked about him, Cam Robinson. He came in first practice.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: I think he arrived on Tuesday. Practice for the first
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: time on Wednesday, started on Sunday, and had he played
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: every snap of the game, it was like sixty four
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: snaps or something like that. Offense, he played every single
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: offensive snap. I think he might have had a penalty
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: like one he had one and like maybe a pressure,
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: but outside he played amazing for at least sixty snacks. Snaps, snacks.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: I'd go for a snack right now. Cam Robinson, he
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: definitely earned my offensive game ball.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my offensive game ball also goes to somebody named
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: Cam but it's Cam Akers.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: There's a few cams on this team. Cam Bye.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: The Cam Akers is a good one though. Yeah, I'm
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: gonna give my offensive game ball to Cam Akers. For
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: all the things we've already said about him, He solidified
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: his position at running back too. He definitely proved to
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: the Vikings organization that they made the right decision to
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: go out and get him back. And I don't know
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: that we'll see Ty Chandler a whole lot on offense
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: the rest of the season, as long as Cam Akers
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: and Aaron Jones stay healthy. I think RB two is
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: squarely cam Acres, and he proved why on Sunday night.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, before we move on to our defensive game balls,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: it already looks like Pat Mahomes is on the field
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: and doing just fine. Right now, he was jogging on
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: the sideline. He might be healthier now after that scare
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: than he was before that scare. So that's how it goes.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: I guess the entire NFL world was terrified for a
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: second that the face of the NFL was injured. Maybe
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: some people were super excited, But yeah, he's back on
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: the field. Defensive game balls. Who gets yours? I'm gonna
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: go with Jonathan Grenard.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: He wasn't like at the top of the defensive stat
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: sheet for the Vikings, but the guy has just been consistent.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: The guy has generated pressure on opposing quarterbacks all season long.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: He did the same against Joe Flacco. He didn't have sack.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: He had two sacks in a row, did he? Yeah, Okay,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: well I'm off on my stat's fine, that's fine. Yeah,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: all of.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: That to say, he is definitely a huge addition to
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: this Vikings defense.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: I'm glad they went out and got him.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: I think as long as he stays healthy, you get
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: Cashman back, You've got Van Ginkle, You've got a pretty
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: solid interior with Harrison Phillips, Jerry Tillery, You've got Turner,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: who's really Turner, Dallas Turner coming on. I like this
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: Vikings defense a lot, and I think any one of
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: them could get a game ball anytime. But Jonathan Grenard
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: gets mine for this game.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a monster and worth every bit of that.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: I think it was like a seventy eight million dollar,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: seventy two million dollar contract for like four years that
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: he signed this offseason. Quacy, say what you want about
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: his draft ability and his ability to pick good, you
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: know players in the NFL draft. He he wheels and
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: deals in free agency and trading. He's he knows what
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: he's doing. So yeah, Grenard amazing. I think he leads
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: a league in QB pressures too. That's a little padded
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: because I think for until Aiden Hutchinson went down, Hutchinson
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: was like twenty pressures ahead of everybody and would have,
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: you know, doubled anybody else. But he broke his legs.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: So Gernard, he's reaping the benefits of that. My defensive
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: game ball and Koc made a joke about how this
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: guy probably has like a basket in his basement just
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: collecting all sixty six hundred game balls he's gotten. But
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: Harrison Smith just keeps going out. He made probably at
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: least a game saving pass breakup on fourth down. It
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: was a pass that you know Sam or not Sam
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: Stefan Gilmore was on the receiver had him kind of
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: wrapped up. You could argue defensive pass interference on a
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 2: fourth down like fourth and two, and the ball was
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: on target to the receiver. But out of nowhere, Harrison
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 2: Smith comes with his vintage just legally just plowing into
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: the receiver and making sure he didn't catch that ball.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: It reminded me, I think of Smith's rookie year. If
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: it wasn't his rookie year was really early on. He
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: did kind of the same thing against Calvin Johnson. Johnson
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: had the ball went high point of the ball in
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: the end zone, maybe to win the game, and Harrison
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: Smith just comes in torpedoes again legally and just knocks
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: the ball out. He that's what he's good at. He's
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 2: a really good football player, a great Viking. He gets
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 2: my game ball for the defense this week. It's definitely
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: hard to disagree with that.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: On special teams, this would be slightly controversial, and we've
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: already talked about him. He might be injured, he might
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: be on the IR We're not sure yet, but I'm
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: still gonna give my special teams game ball to Will
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: Record because yes, he missed two kicks, but those two
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: kicks we could probably attribute to injury maybe, but despite
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: the two misses, and one of the misses was like
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: shanked off of the upright, Yeah, it hit.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: The that was like a thirty something yard It wasn't
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: super long, but if you're injured that that could have
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: contributed to it.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So all of that to say, he was three
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: for three on extra points. He was still booming touchbacks
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: on these kickoffs. If he's injured and he's still doing
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: those things, I think there's there's a lot to be
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: happy with their out of the play of your kicker.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: And we knew he was gonna miss a kick at
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: some point. Yeah, the fairy tale wasn't going to last
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: all season. There was no way it was going to
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: be a Gary Anderson type in nineteen ninety eight season.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: We would have all been terrified if he had gone
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: into the playoffs, assuming the Vikings make the playoffs. If
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 2: he had gone into the playoffs, totally perfect, especially if
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: they made a deep run and they were in the
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: NFC Championship or something.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: And you typically don't think of your kickers as being
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: these like tough, gritty players like they just like I
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: think of Gary Anderson. You have the single bar on
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: the helmet, like I'm not gonna get hit.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: I'm fine, and.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: Like you don't think of kickers that way, but like
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: to come out and do what he did last night.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: Hopefully he didn't like prolong anything or make anything worse
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: with all of the that he did in the game
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: last night, but I still think he did enough to
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: deserve a game ball. He was tough, he was gritty.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: He made three extra points, which were important, and made
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: touchbacks which are also important.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, mine, just I've been saying it all season.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: Until Will Record misses a kick, he's going to get
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: my special teams game ball. Well, he missed a kick,
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: So I gotta be true to myself here. I totally
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: agree with you on everything you just said about him,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: and I definitely agree that he earned that game ball
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: just by gutting it out and keeping playing with potential
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: injury going on, and somewhat successfully too. Yeah, he missed
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: a fifty three yarder, which who's going to make that healthy?
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: And then the thirty something yarder, which he barely missed
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: it hit the uprights. But so I totally agree with
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: your selection of Will Record. But mine's ryan right. I mean,
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: I couldn't tell you exactly how great he did. But
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: this is more of an equity thing. He's been playing
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: really well all season after kind of a down year
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: last year, and yeah, I think now I can say
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: I've given him a special Team's game ball at least
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: once this season. So that's where I'm at. We kind
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: of flip flapped because for the longest time you were.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: A Will rekerd and I was like, well, I guess,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: guess Ryan, right, it's.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: Been doing okay.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: Now he's been playing well too, and I think he
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: deserves a lot of credit. I mean, fortunately, we don't
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: need a punter a lot. We've needed a punter more
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: in the last three or four weeks. Yeah, unfortunately, but yeah,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: hopefully the Vikings offense, for sure, he can get back
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: to a consistent, steady pace and figure out how to
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: play a complete game of football and keep Ryan right
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: off the field.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: Absolutely. You know, every week I'm kind of concerned, like, man,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: we don't have a ton to talk about. This is
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: gonna be like the shortest episode yet. And here we
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: are with a full game against the Jaguars that we
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: got a preview, and we're already what an hour and
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: minutes into this thing.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: One more thing really quick, on on the game balls
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: and on Will Record specifically, when do you think we'll
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: hear about his haircut?
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: Because oh man, he was.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: Allegedly quoted saying he wasn't gonna cut his hair until
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: he missed a field goal.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: I think that's a thing he does, Like he just
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: he gets a haircut at the beginning of the season
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: and he just waits until his first miss. You are
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: literally adding insult to injury. Well, yeah, I'm not trying to.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say, like this too soon, like should
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: we bring this up? But you know, I mean, somebody's
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: got to ask the question, right.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: He Will Record has been like awesome at these brand deals,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: Like he's got like a big brand deal with like Walmart,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 2: and he's got a few other ones that are like okay,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: go good for you. Like you getting these brand deals.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: I almost expect him to have a brand deal with
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: some like National Haircut, like Great Clips or something like that.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: Like so maybe that'll be it. Like he'll have like
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: this commercial about like it kind of reminds me of
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: the the Matt Burke commercial when we were kids that
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: was like this kid asking like what makes the sky
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: blue or something? And Matt Burke just goes off and
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: it's like a milk commercial. I kind of it's like
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: Matt Burke went to Harvard. I kind of think there
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: will be some funny commercial with like great clips in
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: wil record, like, yeah, I'm only here because my job's
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: making me and it's like a living.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: Like they could do a really funny playoff of Marshaun Lynch.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: I'm just here so I won't get kind of thing
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: that'd be funny.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I hope he does, because even if it's cheesy,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: which man will record and I'm a fan of his,
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: I'd have a beer with him. But he seems kind
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: of like quirky, kind of cheesy, like good for him.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: He seems like a good dude, but still like okay,
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: like maybe maybe you're not like this crazy, you know,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: macho man football player, but that's okay. I'm not trying
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: to talk smack. He's a good dude.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: But well, the radar will definitely be on high alert
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: for the Will Reicherd haircut.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 2: It'll be posted out probably. Yeah, and I hope he does.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: I hope he turns it into some money making venture. Yeah.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: All right, Well we've got to talk about what's coming
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: up here. The Vikings are going on the road for
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: three weeks in a row.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: It's going to be a three.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: Week road stint before a three week home stand, which
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: I actually kind of like. I like going on the
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: road first and then coming home to three games at home.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: That'll be good for this team, especially kind of in
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: this we're officially over the hump now on the season.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: We've kind of eclipsed the halfway point and we're on
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: the downward slope. So they travel to Jacksonville. They're going
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: to face Cam Robinson's old team. Yeah, which that'll be
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: kind of an interesting homecoming for him having just left
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: like a week ago. But yeah, what do you what
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: are you expecting with this game and what are you
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: looking forward to?
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: I mean, so I am looking forward to this. I
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: think I think it'll be a good game for the Vikings.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: Not to belabor anything anything, I think the Vikings will win.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: The Jaguars have not been great this year. I think
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 2: they made the playoffs. Last year it looked like they
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: were finally turned on the corner with you know, the
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: progression of Trevor Lawrence. They had a pretty decent coach
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: and Doug Peterson, which he's still there. But what are
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: they two and seven right now? They have not looked great.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: They played the Packers pretty good a couple of weeks ago,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: but other than that, I haven't seen them play. I
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: just kind of watched that one because the Vikings were
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 2: on a bye. Yeah, I mean, I think this could
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: be excuse me, man, I got the burps from this
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: fund size from line Bridge. I think this could be
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 2: a good, good game for the Vikings to feel good
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: about themselves. And obviously, in any kind of game like
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: this where you got a team with a good record
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: going against a team with a not so great record,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: there's always the quote unquote trap game scenario, and I
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: hope they avoid that. But yeah, I ultimately I think
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: the Vikings will pull it out and win. What's your
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: prediction score prediction? All right, Well, my prediction. I think
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: the Vikings will decidedly win. I think you're getting cam Ert,
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: not Cam I think you're getting Blake Cashman back, which
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: I've said for a few weeks has been a huge
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 2: loss for the defense. I think Cam Robinson just being
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: another week into this playbook is only going to help
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: getting guys healthy. You're finally getting TJ. Hockinson really going
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: to be back in the game mode and everything. Maybe
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: Dalton Reisner solidifies that offensive line a little bit, hopefully.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: I think Vikings win handedly thirty one to fourteen. I
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 2: don't think the Vikings are going to have much trouble
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: with the Jaguars. Wow.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: Well, the last time one of us said something like that,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: we got ripped apartment.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to get the views, man, But it also
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: racked up like fifteen thousand views on TikTok fifty like
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: it was like or forty nine thousand views.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: All right, well, hey clip that out and let's put
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: that out there.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think the Vikings will win.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: I don't know that it's as as heavily in favor
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: of the Vikings as what you've said. I still think
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: it's a pretty decided win. You said thirty one fourteen,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: I'm going to go twenty four to ten Vikings. I
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: think the defense allows fewer points, kind of like it
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: did against the Colts on Sunday Night Football. They didn't
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: allow an offensive touchdown at all. They allowed two offensive
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: drives for field goals and then a defensive touchdown. I
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: think they correct some of those mistakes. I think there's
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: an offensive touchdown and a field goal, and I think
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: that's it.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: Other than that.
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: Jacksonsville Jacksonsville. That's a hard thing to say Jacksonville's it's
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: hard to pluralize Jacksonville. Jacksonville's offense struggles mightily against this defense.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: And yeah, you've said it already, but you get Blake
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: Cashman back, and this defense is kind of back to
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: what it was in the first five weeks of the season,
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: just terrorizing opposing quarterbacks, really good quarterbacks like Rock Purdy
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: in CJ.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: Stroud.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: So I think the defense holds the opposing offense to
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: not very many points. I think the offense still has
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: some things to figure out. I think you've got to
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: figure out how to get Justin Jefferson more involved in
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: this game plan.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: Which they have been the last few weeks. His yardage
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: totals have gone up and up, but yeah, but he
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: needs to be more of a focal point.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: It's not just yardage totals. It's got to be scoring, right,
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: It's got to be getting him the ball in the
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: end zone if you're going to win games. This has
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: been proven time and time again in this league. If
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: you win games, you get the ball into the hands
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: of your playmakers hands down.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: I will say too, and this I feel like I've
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: just been interrupting you just to argue with you the
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: last five times I've spoken. But I think in games,
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 2: because didn't Josh Oliver have two touchdown receptions he had
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: won last one. It was a career game for him.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: He had he had five catches on nine targets fifty
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: eight yards in a touchdown, okay, which was the best
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: of his career by far.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 2: I don't think a guy and I'm a huge fan
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 2: of Josh Oliver. He's a fantastic football player. He's great,
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: and I'm really glad he's a Viking. I don't think
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: a guy like Josh Oliver gets a touchdown pass without
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 2: the defense focusing as much as they are on guys
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: like Justin Jefferson or Jordan Addison. I think his opportunities
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 2: come and open up, or guys like his opportunities open
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: up when you have those superstars that have to get attention.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: It's the reason Jalen Naylor scored a touchdown last night
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: and has played a pretty significant role in this offense
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: so far to this point in the season because opposing
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 2: offenses are draping Justin Jefferson in coverage and they learned
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 2: last year that you got to do the same thing
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: with Jordan Addison.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: These guys have to be covered. And Jordan Addison proved
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: last night I don't even need five feet. Yeah, you
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: put the ball on me, I'll bring it in and
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: we'll score.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: Yep. And Justin Jefferson also proved last night that if
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: you pay too much attention to him all game and
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: the other guys start, you know, poking up, and Jordan
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: Addison gets a touchdown and then Josh Oliver gets a touchdown,
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: you start kind of maybe thinking, oh, we need to
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: spread some more you know, resources to the other guys.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: Then Justin Jefferson goes off and gets like a forty
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: fifty yard bomb thrown to him and it goes off
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: like that's how good he is. And that's what you
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: have to focus on.
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: Jefferson's perfect recipe because you have a head coach who's
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: kind of got that like mad scientist kind of mind,
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: Like he doesn't give off those vibes when you talk
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: to him, like Kevin O'Connell's like the salt of the earth.
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: Like the nicest guy you'll ever meet, and he's definitely
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: a player's coach, But as a football mind like he is,
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: I think he's always scheming. He's always trying to figure out,
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: how can we get Justin Jefferson open? How can we
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: okay if they're gonna triple coverage him or double team
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: him or whatever, how can we all right, Well, if
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: there's three guys on him, Speedy's gonna be open, you know,
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: over here, or Jordanadison's gonna have one guy on him
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: over here, this offense is gonna open up.
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: You get t J. Hawkinson back.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: If we can solidify that offensive line and get them
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: to really hold back that defensive pressure, give Sam Darnold
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: some more time, things will open up for this offense
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: and disguise the limit I think for the offense.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: But the offense has to improve.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: My score prediction is less than yours because I think
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: they're still figuring it out. I don't know that everything
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: is solved yet. Getting Cam Robinson is huge because it
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: solidifies that left side of the line, which is so
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: important with darrisaugone. Now you've got to solidify that. I
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: think you need to get riisener in there, and you
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: need to see what he can do, and you need
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: to see if he's a better option, even if it's
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 1: slightly better than at Ingram at that right guard position.
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: But you've got to figure out how you get that
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: front five to be as effective as possible to give
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: Sam Donald more time, because when Sam Donald has more time,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: he makes fewer mistakes. He gets the ball into the
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: hands of the playmakers and they make plays and they
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: score points in the Vikings win games beautiful.
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: So we've talked about adding to everything you just said,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: getting Jefferson more involved or making sure he's still as
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: involved as he needs to be, keeping Sam Donald up right.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 2: All that, plus what do you think the Vikings need
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: to do other than that to make sure they have
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: all the keys they need for victory.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the run game is going to be
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: an important facet of this offense. You've seen it and
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: we're continuing to see it kind of by proxy with
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins now in Atlanta, Like they've got b John
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: Robinson and yeah, they're moving the ball a little bit
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: that way, but Kirk Cousins is still throwing the ball
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: a lot.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: It's funny Kirk and Darnold have the same number of
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: touchdowns and interceptions right.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: Now, Kirks like five hundred more yards or something because
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: he's throwing the ball a lot more. And I think,
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: like the tweet came out today comparing them, like oh wow,
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: And I think that kind of the implication of the
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: tweet was like, well, we traded for just a younger
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: version of Kirk. But I don't think that's exactly true,
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: because I think what we gave up in Kirk, we
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: gained in Aaron Jones, and we gained in being able
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: to sign a guy like Cam Akers back to have
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: this running back core that's potentially going to be really
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: solid for us as long as they stay healthy. And
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: it opened up a lot of opportunities on d defense.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: You get a guy like Kirk Cousins off of your payroll.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: And now all of a sudden, you can pay all.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: These guys like Van Ginkel and Cashman Gerynard Grenard, like
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: you bring in these sarris saw huge dudes, And Yeah,
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: signing Darrisaw's extension like that was massive, and that was
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 1: the choice. And we spent a lot of time debating
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: that in the off season, like what do you pick
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: do you pick the really good quarterback and get rid
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: of all these other guys, or do you bring in
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: some other guys and get rid of the quarterback. And
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: I think we were kind of split on that for you.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 2: And I had different opinions, sure, respectfully different.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: Respectfully, but anyways, I'm I'm very happy with how things
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: have turned out. And anyways, all of that to say,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: you were asking me about keys to victory.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: This run game has to.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: It has to be so reliable that Kevin O'Connell at
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: any moment in the game, any moment in any of
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: these upcoming road games, can just call on thirty three
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: or call on twenty seven and say we're running it.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: Let's do this.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, It's that's how solid it has to be. It's
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: not gonna be a two hundred yard game for.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: Either of those two guys. But as not a Kevin
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: O'Connell offense. He doesn't have a two yard running back.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 1: No, no, But I'm just saying like it has to
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: be that reliable, yeah, because because Sam Donald's gonna need
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: plays like that to clear his mind and he just
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: needs to be able to snap the ball, get it
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: to one of those two running backs and live to
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: see another down, right, Like he's gonna We're gonna see those.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: I think this is just gonna be typical if Sam
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: Darnald down the stretch.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: We're gonna see those. He snaps the ball, he's not.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: He's gonna see a defender coming straight at him that
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: he didn't expect because he didn't see it in the
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: pre snap read, and he's just gonna have to dump
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: it down or he's gonna hopefully be mature enough to
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: throw it out of bounce or whatever. We're gonna see
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: those plays where everything just blows up in his face
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: and he maturely and wisely gets rid of it to
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: live to see another down. And he's gonna need those
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: palette cleansers to just here. You go here and get
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 1: me five yards so we can get to second down
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: or third down or whatever and hopefully get the ball
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: to somebody else and get a first down and keep going. Yeah,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: that's that's a key to victory for me is getting
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: this run game solidified. And I think that the Jaguars
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: are a good team to practice that against.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I should know more about the Jaguars than
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: I do. I don't know much. I just know they're
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: not playing very good this year, but I do know
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: they have a Super Bowl winning head coach. They've got
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: a first overall pick under center who has shown that
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: he can be good. It's not like they're going up against,
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 2: you know, the the dead husk of Joe Flacco this week.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: I think this will probably ultimately end up being a
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: tougher game than it should kind of like the Vikings
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: Colts game was a closer game than it should have been.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: But for me, it's all about the defense. If Cashman
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: does practice at all this week, and if he is back,
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: because remember he did I don't think he practiced at
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: all last week at least, I think he was just
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: did not participate in any because he wasn't healthy enough.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: So if he does come back, that's huge almost like
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 2: for me, if Cashman comes back, that's enough for me
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 2: to say, Okay, victory right there. But yeah, as long
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: as the defense can hold their own this week, keep
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 2: Tank Bigsby from getting another one or two touchdowns and
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 2: kind of blowing up the game, I think, yeah, the
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: Vikings have every opportunity to win. That's why I predicted
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: a thirty one to fourteen victory. Right now.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: The Vikings are four and a half point favorites according
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: to ESPN. Yeah, I think that number goes up before
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: the game, especially if you get some news like Cashman
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: coming back that could I think that number could increase
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: to five or six. It was interesting with this game
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: against the Colts this last week. I think, didn't the
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: vik start as like six or six and a half
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: point favorites and that kind of dwindled down to like five.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: So before the game started, I did see somebody tweeted,
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 1: So I didn't verify this, but I saw it in
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: a tweet. The Vikings opened up as like a six
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: and a half point favorite against the Colts this past.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: Week when Anthony Richardson was supposed to start, I think, right,
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: and then when they made the announcement, which I don't
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: know why you would make that announcement, So like that
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: seems like one of those things you decide and then
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: you hold to your you know, hold in close as
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: a competitive advantage. That's such a dumb thing to announce
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: that you're gonna make. It's not like Flacco and Richardson
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 2: are so close and you can use the same game
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: plan against both of them. They were dumb for announcing
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: that so quickly. Anyways, once they made that announcement that
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: they were switching quarterbacks, the Vikings went from like six
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: or six and a half point favorites to like five
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: or five and a half point favorites. Like Flacco, I
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 2: guess was worth a point and we'll never know. He
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: must have been so, But yeah, I agree with you.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: I think the Vikings might continue to become bigger favorites
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 2: as the week goes on. And I think a part
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 2: of that is having a key player on their offense
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 2: just two weeks ago now plays for the Vikings in
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: Cam Robinson. You know, if they haven't already, they will
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 2: have that meeting and they'll sit Cam Robinson down with
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: all the coaches and they'll just ask the questions, Okay,
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 2: what does the offense do here? How does a defense
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 2: handle this? You know, what do you know about anything?
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: What are the calls they make? You know they're gonna
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 2: do that. Oh yeah, absolutely, they'd be stupid not to.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: And the Jaguars knew that before they sent one of
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: their players, one of their former starters, over to the Vikings.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 1: You know what this reminds me of, I'm I'm just
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: gonna be super annoying, and people are I'm gonna mention moneyball,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 1: I have to, but it just reminds me of the
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: trade that Billy Being makes. There's a there's a moment
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: where he makes a phone call and he tells the
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: opposing manager's like, hey, I don't want this guy pitching
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: against me in a night, tell him to pack his
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 1: bags and send him on over. And then he was
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 1: a Hispanic player, so he comes in and he's like,
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: oh lah, you know he has to like translate. But anyways,
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: that's that's kind of what it reminds me of. And yeah,
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: I definitely agree with you. Cam Robinson is going to
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: be involved in a lot of meetings this week, and
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if Flores himself sits down with
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: him and like, all right, tell me about some of
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 1: these defensive coverages.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 2: Not Flores, I mean, yeah, well Kevin O'Connell and West Phillips.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm thinking of the opposite side
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: of the ball. But yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: they sit down and they figure out what's going on
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 1: on the other.
• 1:27:49
  Speaker 2: Side of the ball and use that as leverage against
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: the Jags. So I've seen a TikTok and it's like
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: a video of a podcast with I'm pretty sure it's
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: Jeremiah Searles is on a podcast. This was a while ago.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: Former Viking Jeremiah Searles was on a podcast with I
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: think other former Viking Boone, who's the guy that played
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: for the forty nine ers and then came to the Vikings.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: It's like a left guard doesn't matter anyways, I think
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: he's on Score North anyway. Searles talks about like he
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: had right at the end of training camp trade been
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: traded from the Chargers to the Vikings, and then i
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 2: think week one that year, the Vikings opened the season
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: with the Chargers and coaches kind of like pulled him
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: in and asked him like, Hey, what can you tell us?
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: And the on the podcast, Searles was like, oh, what
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: should I do? Like should I tell them everything I know?
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: Like I don't know, And he's like, I called my
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 2: agent and he's like, my agent gave me the best
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: advice ever. He said, who signs your pay paychecks? And
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: Searles was like, all right, So he told the Vikings
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: everything he knew. So that's kind of what I expect
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: Cam Robinson to do its like, Hey, I'm going to
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: tell you everything I know. Whether it helps or not,
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: at least you'll have more information than you did.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: And like I said, man, he played well enough to
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 1: deserve whatever he's being paid now and to deserve an
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: extension going forward and bring him back, whether it's into
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 1: another starting role next year, maybe in a different spot
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 1: when Darrisawa comes back and is healthy, or if it's
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 1: just in pure backup, like pure insurance. If they can
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: get him on a dime, it would be a great
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: depth position.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: I think he's still only like twenty nine right now.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: Which offensive lineman, if you're good, you can play for
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: a while. All right, So we both predict a Vikings win.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: Sorry I cut you off. What we're saying, Well, we predict.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: Right now that the Vikings will win, but our preseason
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 1: picks we differ here, which is again where next week
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 1: one of us will be spinning the wheel and the
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: other one will be watching. So you predicted a Vikings
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 1: win preseason, I predicted a loss, And honestly, I'm trying
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 1: to like rack my brain as to why I predicted
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 1: a loss.
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 2: Was this one of your locks? No, I don't know.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: That did we do locks this year? I think we did.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure we did because I know I predicted
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 2: the Vikings Falcons game as a lock to win for
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: the Vikings. Okay, I don't remember what my locktail news.
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: Was, but way, we'll do some research on that this
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: week and double back on that. But regardless, one of
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: us will spin the wheel, one of us will not.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: I think we both hope it's you, right, right one,
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: because I don't want to spin the wheel again, although
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: the Hall of panos were delicious, but I mean, if
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: you spin the wheel, it means the Vikings won that.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yes, that's that is true. I would like
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: to point out, just because it's fun, you're thirty eight
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: percent on your picks right now.
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: I'm fine, and I'm fifty percent. Yeah, but I think
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: I'll take a turn because I famously predicted an eleven
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: and six, which was a very high win total for
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: the Vikings at the time. M hm. And they're definitely
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: on track for that. I don't know what exactly they're
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 2: on track for, but they're on track to lose less
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: than you know, seven games, So.
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 1: True, you know you know who's doing better than both
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: of us?
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: Well, I know the coin. The coin is for sure.
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 2: The coin is currently sitting at eighty eight percent correct. Nice. Yeah,
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: they've only guessed one wrong game so far, the coin did.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: Our wives are outperforming both of us. Miranda just looked
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 2: at the wind totals for each team last year and
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 2: the win totals for the Vikings last year, and just
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: kind of went off that she did spend a couple
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: of minutes actually like putting some time and effort into it.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: But I kind of went to my wife with a like,
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: all right, do they win this game? Do they win
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: this game?
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: Like I went game by game and just recorded her response.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 2: It was kind of just like, oh, she didn't let
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: me do that. She said, Okay, give me the schedule
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: and I'll hate it back to you in a few minutes.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 2: And yeah, I wasn't a part of that at all.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: Well, regardless, both of our wives are doing pretty well.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: Your wife seventy five percent of her picks are correct.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: Eh, there's still time.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: My wife sixty three percent, So they're doing pretty well.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: Our kids not so much. Your kids are doing worse
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: than my kids. That's okay, you want to You and
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 1: your kids are tied. And actually my kids are tied
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: with me right now, You and your kids are both
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: at thirty eight percent.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: I'm at fifty percent with my kids.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 1: So anyways, Yeah, it'll be interesting to see what happens
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: against the Jags. It'll be interesting to see what happens
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: in this three game road stretch. That's a lot of
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: games to play on the road. I'm a little concerned
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: about the link the longevity of the Vikings.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 2: In these short weeks and traveling.
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 1: They don't have like they're not traveling way out to
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: the West Coast, or they're not traveling to Europe, you know,
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: anything like that in this stretch. But it's it's Jacksonville,
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: and it's Tennessee, then it's Chicago. So you know, there's
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 1: travel involved for three straight and to you know, get
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: a fifty three man roster plus all the staff and
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: all the equipment and stuff. It's an operation to get
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 1: all of that from Minneapolis to wherever you're playing that week.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: To do that three weeks in a row is a lot.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: But to kind of kind of spin it a little bit,
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: I think if you're traveling a bunch like that, maybe
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: you can lock in a little bit more. You're you're
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: you're away from home. Sure, I don't know what their
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: plans are if they're going to actually spend extended time
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: away from home or just do the flight in flight
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: out thing, But I mean I think you you should
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 2: be able to lock in a little bit more the
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 2: night before. I know, even the home team for every
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 2: NFL team, the night before game, they still stay in
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: a hotel before, whether you know it's a home or
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: away game. But I just feel like you might be
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: able to lock in a little bit more and just
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: focus on football, and that might be a good thing.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't disagree with you. Monday Night football, which
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: we're watching unfold right now. Yeah, the Bucks just got
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: a first in goal with thirty three seconds to.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 2: Go crazy and they're down seventeen twenty four to the Chiefs.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: They're down a touchdown, so they punch it in here
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: and make the extra point. This game could be going
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: in overtime.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, and they're not just first and goal, their
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 2: first and goals and goal one. That's crazy.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, So yeah, well we're gonna have to take a
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: break here before we wrap things up. Watch this play
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: baking incomplete complete, Okay, thirty seconds left. We can wrap
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: up the episode here while they set up the next play. Well,
• 1:34:30
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• 1:34:33
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• 1:34:36
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• 1:34:39
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• 1:34:45
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• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: Reddit. I know we're on. What else am I missing?
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 2: Reddit might be the biggest one, though, don't don't discredit
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: read it. That's that's a huge one. Have you been
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 2: doing some secret stuff on Reddit that I don't know about.
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know about secret stuff, but I'm there everyone
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 2: in a while untapped, We're there. I know last week
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: I said I would kind of update things. The Tampa
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 2: Bay Buccaneers just scored a touchdown. They're one point away
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: from tying this up. It doesn't matter to you because
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 2: you're in the future listening to me say this right now,
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 2: and you already know how this game ended. Anyways, Yeah,
• 1:35:18
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• 1:35:22
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• 1:35:26
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• 1:35:29
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• 1:35:32
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• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we've really put a lot into our YouTube channel.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: You can watch obviously what we do. You can watch
• 1:35:41
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• 1:35:44
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• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: of appleside or vinegar a few episodes ago. You can
• 1:35:52
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• 1:35:54
  Speaker 1: beer that we try. You can see what we try,
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 1: and if you're interested in any of the beer that
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: that we have on the episode, you can get a
• 1:36:02
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• 1:36:04
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• 1:36:09
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• 1:36:12
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• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: maybe the best ways are YouTube comments. Definitely Twitter, We'll
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: definitely see it there. TikTok will get comments. We need
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 2: to balance out because most of our commenters right now
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: are just mean Lions fans that I think Evan's crazy
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: for saying they won't have any troubles with the Lions.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: So we've got week eighteen cycles. It's coming, It's coming,
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 2: and well the thrill will be there all that to say, hey,
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 2: what do you think of this beer? I like fun
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 2: Sized from line Bridge. I mean it's gone. It's really good.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 2: I like this.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: It was really easy to drink. The chocolate wasn't so
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: in your face. I think the vanilla really balances it out.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: It's not the snow Drift Vanilla Porter that I remember,
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: but but it's I think it's Iowa's version. Yeah, of
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: that line of Coogl's snow Drift Vanilla Porter.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: If you like that.
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 1: Beer and you're like I just I wish something was
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: made in Iowa that was similar to that.
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 2: Look no further than Fun Size from Lion Bridge. Yeah,
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: really really good. For a long time, that line of
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 2: cool Snowdrift Vanilla Porter was my favorite beer and for
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 2: probably the first I don't know, five years of my
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 2: drinking life. If you had asked what my favorite beer
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 2: was instantly, I would have said that the snow Drift
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 2: Vanilla Porter. And it's still really good. It's still up there.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 2: I'm going to make twenty two year old Austin upset,
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 2: and I'm going to say the Fun Size it might
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 2: be better than that snow Drift Vanilla Porter.
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure we tried that snow Drift Vanilla Porter together.
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: We were at Tony's Pizza Tony's pizza and ceedter Falls,
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: and we tried it for the first time.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 2: You ordered it first, and I was like, all right,
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 2: I'll go for it. Yep. Yeah, this but this fun size.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: It's really dark in color, but not dark in like consistency.
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 2: It's easy to drink. Like you said, it's really good
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 2: flavor without being offensive. It's not like a candy beer.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: It's not just chocolate, but you definitely benefit from the
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 2: chocolate flavor. Lion Bridge. I think I said it about
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: Big Grove last week. I'd never had a bad Big
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: Grove beer, lion Bridge. I've even the beers. I don't
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 2: think I'm gonna like like that. Yeah, I like them,
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: lion Bridge. You do such a good job. I really
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 2: like this beer specifically and everything else I've tried. Keep
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 2: it up. I'd love to do a podcast there or
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: even just go go there just you and me and
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: nobody knows who we are. That'd be let's just go
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: there right now. Good beer. I like it a lot.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: I wish we had a few more.
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's a shame that we don't have a
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: few more. But I know where we can get some,
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: and it's our local hivey off of Devil's Glenn. That's
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  Speaker 1: where we get a out of our beer. Shout out
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  Speaker 1: really good episode. I think one of the best episodes yet.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have any beer to school you with. We
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  Speaker 2: still got a skull. We're going to scull and h
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  Speaker 2: we'll see you next week after the Jacksonville game. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: school school.
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  Speaker 1: Hey Vikings fans, evan here from the School Hop and
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