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Teen girl found drugged, shot dead in exclusive hotel, last seen with millionaire · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. What does the body of
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Speaker 1: a teen girl, the dead body of a teen girl
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Speaker 1: have to do with a multi million dollar corporation and
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Speaker 1: really a way of life? Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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Speaker 1: First of all, take a listen to this. If you
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Speaker 1: like spending time on the beach, then you'll recognize the
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Speaker 1: catchphrase living the salt life and most likely you've seen
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Speaker 1: a T shirt or two. It began as a slogan
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Speaker 1: for an outdoor apparel brand, Salt Life, but it's taken
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Speaker 1: on a cultural meaning of its own for those with
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Speaker 1: a hardcore love of the outdoors and the ocean, and
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Speaker 1: it has an extreme following. The company sells all types
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Speaker 1: of gear for surfing, fishing, diving, and beach going. In
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Speaker 1: the first six months of twenty nineteen, Salt Life made
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Speaker 1: a profit of nearly two million dollars. It was founded
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Speaker 1: by four friends in two thousand and three and the
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Speaker 1: name is credited to co founder Michael Troy Huddo, but
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Speaker 1: the friends sold the business in twenty thirteen for forty
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Speaker 1: million dollars. Wow, forty million dollars, that's pretty sweet, you're hearing.
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Speaker 1: Our friend from crime online dot Com, John Limley. So
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Speaker 1: the salt life started out as like beach apparel and
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Speaker 1: beach gear, fishing, diving. I've seen it a million times.
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Speaker 1: We even have things labeled the salt life or extreme
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Speaker 1: outdoors people. What does that have to do with the
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Speaker 1: dead body of a teen girl? Again, thank you for
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Speaker 1: being with us here at Fox Nations series X sim
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Speaker 1: one eleven. Let's introduce to you an all star panel,
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Speaker 1: and I mean I'll star first of all. James shell
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Speaker 1: Nutt twenty seven years Metro major case including swat now
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Speaker 1: lawyer at shell Nutt Law Firm dot com. Doctor Debbie
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Speaker 1: Joffe Ellis, psychologist, adjunct professor, Columbia University at Debbie Joffe
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Speaker 1: Ellis dot com. Robert Crispin, former cop now private investigator
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Speaker 1: with Crispin Special Investigations dot com. Right now medical examiner,
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Speaker 1: doctor Tim Gallagher joining us from the jurisdiction of Florida.
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Speaker 1: And Ray Kiputo, lead news anchor W DBO Ray, what
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Speaker 1: can you tell me about the salt life? And then
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Speaker 1: I'll get to the dead girl? Well, Nancy, it's an
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Speaker 1: iconic brand, like you mentioned that is centers round anything
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Speaker 1: involving saltwater or diving, fish, swimming, surfing now is a
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Speaker 1: New York transplant when I came down here, Like, I
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Speaker 1: didn't know about Salt Life the brand, but you can't
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Speaker 1: miss it. It's like on everything you turn around here,
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Speaker 1: from car stickers to you see this curse of Salt
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Speaker 1: Life writing on T shirts. I mean, it's something that's inescapable,
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Speaker 1: but it is more than a brand, and it's kind
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Speaker 1: of like a way of life, you know, sitting out
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Speaker 1: and enjoying the ocean while you're having a nice mixed
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Speaker 1: drink and a tiki bar. You know, all that is
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Speaker 1: the Salt Life brand just plays into that Florida living. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I'll know just a moment, rakipeat because we have a
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Speaker 1: lot of dive gear, swim gear, snorical gear from the
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Speaker 1: Salt Life. But my children are certainly certainly not sitting
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Speaker 1: pool side having, as you say, a mixed drink. What
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Speaker 1: are you talking about? You get the little mixed drinks
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Speaker 1: with an umbrella in it, Kipato. I didn't really see
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Speaker 1: that coming, Yeah, Nancy both. I mean it's a native
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Speaker 1: New York or someone who's moved down here. The life
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Speaker 1: and Florida is a lot slower than other places. I'll
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Speaker 1: tell you, and you know it's the warm weather. People
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Speaker 1: come here to bake. I've never noticed I mean about
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Speaker 1: life being slower. Of course, I'm always in the courthouse
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Speaker 1: when I'm in Florida, and things are moving pretty quickly there.
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Speaker 1: So to me, salt Life equates with extreme outdoorsmanship. I
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Speaker 1: think you're referring to, maybe you know, a chill life
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Speaker 1: on the beach having a drink. Well, if you look
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Speaker 1: at the salt Life gear, it's for outdoors people that
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Speaker 1: want to dive, that want to snorkel, that want to fish,
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Speaker 1: that want to go out on a boat, that want
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Speaker 1: to run on the beach. Extreme outdoorsmanship is the way
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Speaker 1: I would describe the Salt Life But what can you
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Speaker 1: tell me about how it goes from kind of an
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Speaker 1: idea to a forty million dollar sell off. Well, oddly
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Speaker 1: that this company was started based on a tattoo on
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Speaker 1: the back of one of the founder's, Troy Huddle's nets,
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Speaker 1: And I guess your guess is as good as mine. Nanty.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes things just catch on with people and they go viral,
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Speaker 1: and they they had a right idea at the time,
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Speaker 1: and it just really did catch on. And again it
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Speaker 1: didn't take too long, you know, unless less than ten years.
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Speaker 1: They ended up selling this brand for forty million dollars.
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Speaker 1: They started in two thousand and three and by two thirteen,
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Speaker 1: this thing that morph from a tattoo on Troy Huddo's
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Speaker 1: net was a forty million dollar brand. Forty million dollars
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Speaker 1: and the cell was several years ago now telling what
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Speaker 1: it would be worth right now. So how does that
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Speaker 1: all factor into a dead body? Lessen our friend Louy
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Speaker 1: Ortiz debut at PEC. Cheryl Miller is a Hilton Singer
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Speaker 1: Island club member, and she says she saw crime scene
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Speaker 1: investigators going in and out of the hotel through the
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Speaker 1: main lobby all afternoon and into the evening, from swimming
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Speaker 1: in the pool to go into the ocean. Derek Happy,
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Speaker 1: it's not a stressful play since that's where you go
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Speaker 1: to two out. It's unclear for how long the body
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Speaker 1: was inside the hotel room and whether there were any
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Speaker 1: injuries to suspect foul play. Residence and guests remain worried
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Speaker 1: as a cause of the death still remains a mystery.
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Speaker 1: What I've got about Hilton Singer Island is um. It's
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Speaker 1: a private beach. There's really ritzy shopping there, kind of
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Speaker 1: a Rodeo drive transplanted to Singer Island. What can you
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Speaker 1: tell me about this location because it sounds like the
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Speaker 1: people there at the Hilton Singer Island Club are really
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Speaker 1: worried because there's a cop car there. Oh yeah, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: I mean this, I say, I've said this before you
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Speaker 1: get on me about it. But this sort of thing
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Speaker 1: doesn't happen in places like this. You know it's well
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Speaker 1: it did it? Did? It? Did happen? Beach towny very risky.
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Speaker 1: When people say that things like that don't happen here.
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Speaker 1: James SHELNUTT, I mean no offense, Ray computer, Because you
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Speaker 1: are the lead news anchor. You know what you're talking about.
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Speaker 1: You're always right on the news, never been wrong. James
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Speaker 1: shelnut Why do people always say that never happens here?
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Speaker 1: It does. That's why people are saying it never happens here,
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Speaker 1: because it just did happen there. Well, people say that
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Speaker 1: until it does happen there. I mean, your crime happens everywhere.
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Speaker 1: We've learned over the years that nowhere is safe, nowhere
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Speaker 1: is immune. And you know, just the time that you
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Speaker 1: think that your community is safe, something like this happens
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Speaker 1: in it. I'm looking in this place, Hilton Singer Island,
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Speaker 1: Oceanfront Palm Beach Resort, Coconuts on the Beach a popular
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Speaker 1: venue for locals and guests alike. A large weather protected
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Speaker 1: deck and tiki bar. They're drinking out of Coconuts on
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Speaker 1: the Beach. Okay, so maybe you were right about the
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Speaker 1: whole salt life thing, Ray Kipeter. Now I'm looking at
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Speaker 1: Catch k etc. The ultimate West Palm Beach, Florida vacation,
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Speaker 1: rich dining experience, zest and freshness of the Atlantic Ocean.
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at this place, Jackie. I would feel like
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Speaker 1: a dog upstairs. I mean, you know you're not supposed
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Speaker 1: to be there. Really, it's not for you, Okay. So
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Speaker 1: I mean this is awesome, beautiful. It looks like out
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Speaker 1: of a movie. What is his place? Computer? Break it
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Speaker 1: down for me, y'all those peasants that don't go to
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Speaker 1: places like this. That's just a beautiful resort, Nancy. I
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Speaker 1: mean you described it. It's a time, this little flice
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Speaker 1: of land where you know, it's like between the inner
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Speaker 1: coastal and the Atlantic Ocean. I mean, people who have
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Speaker 1: millions upon millions of dollars live around here where they
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Speaker 1: choose to live, you know. And here's this resort nestled
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Speaker 1: you know, between Jupiter and West Palm Beach. Oh wait
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Speaker 1: a minute, I see I didn't realize the location. When
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Speaker 1: you see Jupiter, that's where um, all the super wealthy
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Speaker 1: people go to live. Like I know, there were a
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Speaker 1: bunch of big time producers in New York that left
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Speaker 1: their their penthouses and moved to Jupiter. And that's where
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Speaker 1: Tiger King and right Tiger Woods. Excuse me, the Tiger King.
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Speaker 1: I think I know where he is. He's in jail.
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Speaker 1: Tiger Woods is there? Um, okay, Now tell me about
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Speaker 1: Singer Island itself. It's it's just very rich, beautiful little
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Speaker 1: flice of land. I'm looking at it right here on
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Speaker 1: a map, and there is, you know, a bridge. It's
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Speaker 1: it's kind of its own little island. It's it is
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Speaker 1: connected to land, you know, because of the bridge. But
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you want to get away, they see
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Speaker 1: this is the place to be. It's there's a several
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Speaker 1: other resorts on Singer Island. It's just very opulent, very
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Speaker 1: posh um. Question, do you done a lot of celebrities
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Speaker 1: live there? A lot of celebrities live in these parts.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. This is Riviera Beach, so in this
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Speaker 1: area of South Florida, I mean it's just packed with
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Speaker 1: you know, million dollar homes. If you ever look at
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Speaker 1: it on Google Maps. I mean, there isn't a place
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Speaker 1: you probably wouldn't want to live on the coast. I
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Speaker 1: mean it just seems endless from Miami all the way
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Speaker 1: up to around Cooperer, you know, in a little bit
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Speaker 1: farther north. It's just a beautiful place. You know, the
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Speaker 1: President lives in these parts. Time Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys,
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Speaker 1: we are talking about very exclusive of vacation resort, the
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Speaker 1: Hilton Resort on Singer Island near Palm Beach. You know
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Speaker 1: it's interesting to me. Let me go to you, Robert Crispin, Europei. Now, Robert,
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Speaker 1: you're the founder of Crispin Investigations dot com. As I recall,
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Speaker 1: aren't you weren't you a cop in Florida? I was.
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Speaker 1: I did narcotics for several of those years, and I
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Speaker 1: was assigned to the DA Task Force in the Miami
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Speaker 1: Field Division, and you know I worked up and down
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Speaker 1: this entire coast and nation. Thank you, thank you. Crispin
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Speaker 1: for all the dope that floods through Atlanta comes straight
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Speaker 1: up by seventy five and then straight to New York.
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Speaker 1: Right by my apartment with a twins are in. They're
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Speaker 1: trying to do their homework. So thanks a lot. My
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Speaker 1: point is, there's a lot of money floating around down
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Speaker 1: in Florida. Why is it that all the rich Floridians,
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Speaker 1: I mean the really wealthy ones that are shut up
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Speaker 1: there on Singer Island and other places, they act like
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Speaker 1: they've never heard or seen or know of a dead body.
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Speaker 1: Did you hear this woman? She's more worried about well, seemingly,
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Speaker 1: I don't know her tree mindset that there were police
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Speaker 1: coming in and out of the lobby. There is a
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Speaker 1: dead girl, for Pete's sake. They live in a bubble.
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Speaker 1: You know. You talked to a lot of people that
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Speaker 1: live on Worth Avenue. You talked to a lot of
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Speaker 1: people that live in Palm Beach, Singer Island. A lot
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Speaker 1: of those people don't go over that bridge to go
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Speaker 1: back into Riviera Beach. They stay there. They get their
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Speaker 1: uber each they get their food delivered, they get their
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Speaker 1: clothes delivered. They don't want to come out of their
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Speaker 1: little billy whack where they're living in. Life is grand.
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Speaker 1: What do you mean by grand? I'm just curious. I
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Speaker 1: wouldn't trade my life that I have with the twins
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Speaker 1: and my husband and my mom for anything, But what
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Speaker 1: do you mean life is grand for them because they
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Speaker 1: live in such a society that is fake for a
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Speaker 1: lot of them. They are catered to because they have money.
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Speaker 1: They get first class treatment because they have money. So
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Speaker 1: they really deal with reality and they don't want to
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Speaker 1: know about anything else. There's a lot of people, especially
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Speaker 1: a lot of my clients, that I'll talk about a
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Speaker 1: current news event and they'll be like, what, I don't
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Speaker 1: even watch the news, so, oh, don't you don't watch
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Speaker 1: an anti grace, You don't watch this, You don't know.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to see any of that bad stuff.
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Speaker 1: So they live in a bubble. So when something happens
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Speaker 1: in the police are on your front doorstep, or they're
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Speaker 1: in your neighborhood and there's the yellow crime scene tape up,
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Speaker 1: they're like, wow, you know, well, what's going on that
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Speaker 1: doesn't happen here, not in my neighborhood. Well, you know what,
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Speaker 1: Robert Crispin, You're absolutely right, But it did take a
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Speaker 1: listen to Todd Wilson w p TV. Riviera Beach police
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Speaker 1: got a call just after ten this morning asking them
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Speaker 1: to do a welfare check at the Hilton on Singer Island.
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Speaker 1: When officers arrived, they found a young adult female dead
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Speaker 1: in a room. The department's release few details about its investigation,
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Speaker 1: but police say the victim had been staying at the
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Speaker 1: resort for several days. She's a teen. This is not
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Speaker 1: a grown woman. This is a teen girl dead in
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Speaker 1: a room, and I'm trying to figure out to you,
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Speaker 1: James shell Nutt, twenty seven years Metro major case now lawyer,
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Speaker 1: how long had the girl been in the room decomposing
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Speaker 1: before there was a security check? I mean, shell Nutt
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Speaker 1: as part of a Metro major case including SWAT. You've
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Speaker 1: probably done a lot of raids and a lot of
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Speaker 1: investigations at hotels and motels. Absolutely, don't you? I mean,
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Speaker 1: can you just hold up in your room and stay
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Speaker 1: there for days on end, as long as you have
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Speaker 1: a do not disturb sign on the door? You know
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Speaker 1: you can. You know that you can go for an
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Speaker 1: extended period of time. I can't tell you how many
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Speaker 1: cases I've had where your body is well become posed
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Speaker 1: by the time it's located in the first time that
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Speaker 1: you get a cause after the body starts to decompose
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Speaker 1: and set off odors. That draws the attention of people.
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Speaker 1: You know, obviously, if someone is there after their stay
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Speaker 1: has been paid for, you know, you can have housekeeping
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Speaker 1: come in and find them sometimes. But yeah, absolutely, And
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Speaker 1: why is it? Dodgor Tim Gallagher, the medical examiner for
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Speaker 1: the State of Florida. This is his backyard, Dodgor Gallagher.
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Speaker 1: Once you smell the decomposition of a human body, you
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Speaker 1: never forget. It's unlike anything else, and nobody even needs
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Speaker 1: to tell you what it is. You just know instinctively
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Speaker 1: what is happening. Why does the body do that? Well, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: you know, just because you die, we don't find you
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Speaker 1: right away, and then the body starts to, like you say, decompose.
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Speaker 1: What is happening now is bacteria is attacking the cells,
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Speaker 1: and the cells are dying as well, and they are
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Speaker 1: releasing their byproducts. They're waste products, they're gases, and it's
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Speaker 1: just a putrefactive decomposition that releases the noxious gases, the
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Speaker 1: sulfur type aromas that you smell that sickly sweet type
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Speaker 1: of roma that you sell that there's a sweet tinge
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Speaker 1: to it that I can't describe. Um. The only one
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Speaker 1: I could compare it to is rotting fruit, And I
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Speaker 1: mean it's nothing like that. It's so much, but it's
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Speaker 1: it's horrible, horrible smell. So you're saying that gases start
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Speaker 1: to produce in the body and they're released from the body,
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Speaker 1: released through what well, They're released through the pores of
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Speaker 1: the skin. Actually, the pores of the skin relax, they
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Speaker 1: open up, and the gases are released through perforations in
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Speaker 1: the skin. They also come out through the mouth and
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Speaker 1: the nose, and the skin itself also produces this type
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Speaker 1: of gas. So it's a it's a smell though once
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Speaker 1: you smell it, it doesn't smell like anything else you've
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Speaker 1: smelled before, and it will stay with you for your
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Speaker 1: entire life. You know, we often describe bodies that are
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Speaker 1: found in bodies of water as bloated. Is that from
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Speaker 1: the gas being created from decop inside the body. It
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Speaker 1: blows your body up, It truly is. The stomach expands
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Speaker 1: with the gas, the intestinal tract, the large intestine, small intestine.
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Speaker 1: They have bacteria in there, that are gas producing bacteria
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Speaker 1: and which produces gas while you're alive as well, and
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Speaker 1: in the form of flatulence. You've probably recognize that smell.
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Speaker 1: But there's gas throughout the entire gastrointestinal tract and as
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Speaker 1: well as the upper chest cavity. So these swell with
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Speaker 1: the gases and then raise the body from the bottom
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Speaker 1: of the water to the top of the water, and
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Speaker 1: they and the people just float up like um, like markers,
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Speaker 1: you know, after a couple of days, you know, when
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Speaker 1: you say it like that, and I try to reconcile
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Speaker 1: what you're saying, doctor Tim Gallagher, to the fact that
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Speaker 1: I know this is a young, beautiful teen girl, and
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Speaker 1: this is what is happening to her body. She should
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Speaker 1: have been out in her senior year of high school
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Speaker 1: running track or studying for an exam, or getting ready
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Speaker 1: for a prom or something like that. Guys, take a
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Speaker 1: listen to our friends at WPEC. We're still working to
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Speaker 1: learn the circumstances of this woman's death. Investigators only telling
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Speaker 1: us right now that this is a suspicious death, and
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Speaker 1: it's leaving hotel guests and residence nearby a little on edge.
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Speaker 1: It's a luxury ocean front getaway to escape and enjoy
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Speaker 1: private beach access. But the Hilton Singer Island resort in
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Speaker 1: Riviera Beach turned to something guests have never seen, a
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Speaker 1: crime scene, after a woman was found dead in one
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Speaker 1: of the rooms early Thursday morning. Police made the discovery
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Speaker 1: after getting a call about a welfare check, and right
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Speaker 1: now they're only calling her death suspicious. I find it
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Speaker 1: shocking because there's really not a lot of crime on
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Speaker 1: this island. Here we go with it doesn't happen here.
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Speaker 1: There was a group of people shocked to see a
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Speaker 1: police person, a policeman, a policewoman and their lobby and
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Speaker 1: that was the big shot for them. I wonder if
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Speaker 1: they had smelled the decomposing teen girl body upstairs, if
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Speaker 1: they would have been a little more shocked. For people
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Speaker 1: that say it doesn't happen here, it does. Crime Stories
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Speaker 1: with Nancy Grace, we are talking about the exclusive Singer
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Speaker 1: Island area in Florida. Take a listen to Al Peffley
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Speaker 1: w PEC CBS twelve. How did an eighteen year old
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Speaker 1: woman from Lake City end up dead in a hotel here,
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Speaker 1: some three hundred miles from her home. Police are trying
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Speaker 1: to piece together what happened Rivia Beach. Police say they
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Speaker 1: found the body of eighteen year old Laura Grace Duncan
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Speaker 1: of Lake City in a hotel room at the Hilton
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Speaker 1: Hotel on Singer Island about eleven thirty Thursday, warning she
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Speaker 1: had been shot. Once. Sheriff's detectives in Columbia County, where
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Speaker 1: Duncan lived, a four and a half hour drive from
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Speaker 1: South Florida, say she left the county voluntarily with a man,
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Speaker 1: and her parents called the sheriff's office Monday asking them
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Speaker 1: to do a well being check on her. Detectives learned
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Speaker 1: she might be in Riviera Beach and police found her
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Speaker 1: body in a Hilton Hotel room. So this girl lives
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Speaker 1: almost five hours away from the Singer Island Beach resort
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Speaker 1: and the dad, it appears, called police to do a
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Speaker 1: welfare check? Did he know his daughter was there? Who
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Speaker 1: is the man took another? Listen to CBS twelve. Columbia
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Speaker 1: County sheriff spokesman did not I know if the victim
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Speaker 1: met the man online or how they met, He said.
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Speaker 1: He also did not know a possible motive for the murder.
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Speaker 1: We certainly want to apprehend who ever did this as
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Speaker 1: quickly as possible to wear. You know, a tight knit
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Speaker 1: community up hearing to hear something like this was done
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Speaker 1: to one of our citizens, It is very shocking preview
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Speaker 1: of each. Police say they've identified a person of interest
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Speaker 1: in the sling, but they have not released any details
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Speaker 1: on who the person is, where he is now, or
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Speaker 1: what led to the killing. You're here, he starts to
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Speaker 1: Steve mcclackahan in Columbia County. He is the PIO for
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Speaker 1: the sheriffs there. Straight out to doctor Debbe Joffey ellis
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Speaker 1: psychologist at Columbia University. Doctor Debbie not only was his
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Speaker 1: team girl found dead in a hotel room and they
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Speaker 1: already decomposing when the sheriffs arrived, they were hit with
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Speaker 1: the smell of decomp the moment they got to the door.
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Speaker 1: Somebody left her there like that? What kind of a
21:05
Speaker 1: mindset is that Doctor Derby too, not only know somebody
21:10
Speaker 1: is dead but leave them there that door was locked. Well,
21:15
Speaker 1: there are a number of possibilities, aren't there, Nan see
21:19
Speaker 1: one and you'll call me kind of Pollyanni. Here might
21:23
Speaker 1: be that the person didn't realize she was dead. Nonetheless,
21:27
Speaker 1: in all probability, the person who shot the gun or
21:30
Speaker 1: would have realized at the very least she was injured.
21:33
Speaker 1: So one logical explanation might be that he didn't want
21:38
Speaker 1: to be found out or call it, and he might
21:40
Speaker 1: be suspected as being the one if he lets the
21:42
Speaker 1: authorities know. So that's one possibility. It may or may
21:48
Speaker 1: not have been intentional short of being psychic. Who can
21:52
Speaker 1: know for sure unless the person admits what happens in
21:57
Speaker 1: a truthful way. Well, that's why he has something called forensics. Yeah,
22:03
Speaker 1: and witnesses and statements and hotel security cameras, all sorts
22:11
Speaker 1: of things just in case a killer doesn't confess to
22:17
Speaker 1: set things straight. So let me go to you, Robert
22:20
Speaker 1: Crispin PI Crispin's Special Investigations, former police officer there in Florida.
22:26
Speaker 1: Robert Crispin, what do you make of doctor Debbie Joffey
22:29
Speaker 1: Ellis's initial thought that maybe the shooter didn't know the
22:34
Speaker 1: eighteen year old girl victim was dead and maybe they
22:38
Speaker 1: thought she was just having a map. Well, listen, I
22:41
Speaker 1: have to respectfully disagree. I mean, he knew exactly what's
22:44
Speaker 1: going on. He's the one who pulled the trigger. I've
22:47
Speaker 1: done a little bit of research on the case, and
22:50
Speaker 1: you know, he fled, He fled, he took off, he
22:53
Speaker 1: got scared. He didn't stay there and to render her
22:55
Speaker 1: first aid and maybe which would have saved her life
22:58
Speaker 1: if he says it was an accident. You know what,
23:00
Speaker 1: You're right, Crispin, take a listen to this, because there's
23:04
Speaker 1: a very good chance her life may have been saved.
23:08
Speaker 1: Who is the person that shot this teen girl that
23:12
Speaker 1: should have been studying for exams at school and high
23:16
Speaker 1: school and leaves her there to die or dead already
23:22
Speaker 1: in a hotel room, shutting the door, hitting the elevator,
23:25
Speaker 1: butting button, and high telling it out of there. Our
23:29
Speaker 1: friends at People magazine listen. According to investigators, the eighteen
23:34
Speaker 1: year old woman whose Sole Life co founder Michael Troy
23:36
Speaker 1: Huddo is accused of fatally shooting last month, was his girlfriend.
23:40
Speaker 1: According to WPTV, and arrest affidavit states that Laura Grace
23:44
Speaker 1: Duncan's father told police she was in a romantic relationship
23:47
Speaker 1: with the fifty four year old suspect. Authorities have said
23:50
Speaker 1: Duncan died from a single gunshot wound to the stomach.
23:53
Speaker 1: The affidavit also alleges that the day before Duncan's body
23:56
Speaker 1: was found at the Hilton Oceanfront Resort on Singer Island, Florida.
24:00
Speaker 1: Howdo was rushed to a Jacksonville hospital after police found
24:03
Speaker 1: him in a car parked illegally outside of a gas station.
24:06
Speaker 1: The avedavit states that he was found quote twitching, making
24:09
Speaker 1: delusional comments, and crying while his eyes were rolling into
24:12
Speaker 1: the back of his head. According to WPTV, he allegedly
24:15
Speaker 1: told police while at the hospital, quote, oh my god,
24:18
Speaker 1: I think I heard Gracie. He also reportedly said that
24:21
Speaker 1: the shooting was an accident. The hotel room in which
24:23
Speaker 1: Duncan's body was found was allegedly registered in Hoddo's name.
24:27
Speaker 1: Howdo was charged with one count of manslaughter, as well
24:30
Speaker 1: as a firearms possession violation manslaughter. First, let me get
24:34
Speaker 1: to the injury. This team girl, Laura Grace Duncan you
24:39
Speaker 1: know that just that was a flood of information right there.
24:42
Speaker 1: I hardly know which way to go. There's a plethora
24:45
Speaker 1: of information, Doctor Tam Gallagher. When you're shot in the stomach,
24:50
Speaker 1: I mean that's not an artery. You're not shot in
24:52
Speaker 1: the heart, You're not shot in your jugular or your
24:56
Speaker 1: femoral artery. I'm just a JD. You're the MD. But
25:00
Speaker 1: it seems to me that if she had gone straight
25:02
Speaker 1: to the emergency room she may have been able to
25:04
Speaker 1: be saved. Well, that may or may not be true.
25:07
Speaker 1: I mean, your liver is also in your abdominal area,
25:10
Speaker 1: and deliver is basically a big sack of blood, you know,
25:14
Speaker 1: So a gunshot wound to the liver, even in front
25:17
Speaker 1: of a team of surgeons, you would have a fifty
25:20
Speaker 1: fifty chance of surviving. Also, your a orda you're descending
25:24
Speaker 1: a order, the one that leads from your heart and
25:26
Speaker 1: travels down to both of your legs, is there, and
25:29
Speaker 1: it travels along the back of your spine, and that
25:32
Speaker 1: can be prefridged by the bullet, and you would bleed
25:35
Speaker 1: out within less than a minute. Will you say that
25:38
Speaker 1: one more time, doctor Gallagher, about the artery that travels
25:41
Speaker 1: Did you say from the heart down to the rest
25:43
Speaker 1: of the body, snakes along the spine? Right, there's a
25:48
Speaker 1: vessel coldy, a order, and it comes out of the
25:50
Speaker 1: top of the heart. Half of it goes to your head,
25:53
Speaker 1: and the other half travels down the length of your
25:55
Speaker 1: spine to your organs. It branches out into your organs
25:59
Speaker 1: and then goes down to your legs. So that is
26:01
Speaker 1: a very major blood artery that can be in your
26:07
Speaker 1: abdominal area. That is in your abdominal area, and once
26:10
Speaker 1: it's perforated, you will bleed out within minutes. You know,
26:13
Speaker 1: I'm listening to doctor Tim Gallagher correctly describe what may
26:17
Speaker 1: have happened. We know this teen girl sustained a single
26:20
Speaker 1: shot to the stomach. Did she suffer? Did she blade out?
26:24
Speaker 1: I want you to take a listen to this. Listen
26:26
Speaker 1: the probable cause affidavit revealing Huddo was reportedly dating eighteen
26:31
Speaker 1: year old Lake City teen Laura Grace Duncan at the
26:34
Speaker 1: time of her death at a hotel in Riviera Beach.
26:36
Speaker 1: Investigators say Duncan's father was aware of the relationship and
26:40
Speaker 1: told them he hadn't had contact with his daughter for
26:43
Speaker 1: days before she was found dead of a gunshot wound
26:46
Speaker 1: inside a room at the hotel. Investigators say who told
26:49
Speaker 1: them he thought Huddo was quote giving her drugs to
26:52
Speaker 1: keep her sedated, giving her drugs to keep her sedated?
26:58
Speaker 1: Did you hear that? That was David Jones at wt
27:01
Speaker 1: LV First Coast News to RK Amputo, lead news anchor
27:06
Speaker 1: Orlando News WDBO. What. First of all, I'm just being
27:10
Speaker 1: smacked in the face. A fifty four year old multi
27:13
Speaker 1: millionaire is dating a teen girl just out of high
27:16
Speaker 1: school or I guess out of high school. What's that
27:19
Speaker 1: all about. I don't know. He's literally three times her
27:23
Speaker 1: age and this girl was one years old. She was
27:26
Speaker 1: an infant when this guy started his Salt Life brand.
27:30
Speaker 1: I'm not sure how they met with the drugs make
27:32
Speaker 1: it sound like he was grooming her. He got her hooked.
27:35
Speaker 1: They couldn't have been in a long term relationship, Nancy,
27:37
Speaker 1: because she wasn't old enough to be in a long
27:40
Speaker 1: term relationship last year. She was a sophomore in high
27:43
Speaker 1: score something like that, but drugs keeping her sedated on drugs.
28:02
Speaker 1: Time Stories with Nancy Grace. You guys, we're talking about
28:07
Speaker 1: the death is shooting death of a teen girl allegedly
28:11
Speaker 1: the hands of a multi million dollar founder of the
28:14
Speaker 1: Sault Live take listen to the rest of what WTLV
28:18
Speaker 1: friend Davy Jones says. The day before Duncan's body was found,
28:22
Speaker 1: Huddo reportedly overdosed into Saint John's County gas station. Detectives
28:26
Speaker 1: from South Florida, who questioned Huddo at the hospital in
28:28
Speaker 1: Jacksonville say he told them, quote, oh my god, I
28:32
Speaker 1: think I hurt my Gracie, before crying. According to the affidavit,
28:36
Speaker 1: Huddo said he and the teen were heading to the
28:38
Speaker 1: Florida Keys to visit friends, that they stopped at the
28:41
Speaker 1: hotel and at one point were quote playing inside of
28:43
Speaker 1: the hotel room as if they were shooting with their
28:46
Speaker 1: finger and a gun. He said at one point, quote
28:48
Speaker 1: he pointed the gun at Gracie, it went off and
28:51
Speaker 1: shot her. Police say manslaughter carries a maximum sentence of
28:54
Speaker 1: fifteen years in Florida, but Huddo's charges could be upped
28:58
Speaker 1: if new evidence comes to light. So we're learning what
29:02
Speaker 1: he is saying that somehow he has a drug overdose
29:06
Speaker 1: one day before the body is found of this team girl,
29:10
Speaker 1: which means now we're looking at at least two days
29:14
Speaker 1: he has left her there. And what's significant to me
29:17
Speaker 1: to James shell Nutt, you're the lawyers, he says they
29:21
Speaker 1: were playing a game with their fingers and a gun,
29:27
Speaker 1: that he pointed the gun at Gracie and it went
29:30
Speaker 1: off and shot her. Did you hear him say he
29:34
Speaker 1: was playing a game. Yeah, b s. You know. I
29:37
Speaker 1: will tell you some of the best advice that I
29:39
Speaker 1: got when I became a police officer many years ago,
29:43
Speaker 1: was never lose sight of the overall picture of what's
29:46
Speaker 1: going on. Never lose your common sense. Look, this guy
29:51
Speaker 1: drugged this eighteen year old girl miles hours away from
29:55
Speaker 1: her home. This guy left her in a hotel room.
30:00
Speaker 1: And I will tell you I don't know where to
30:01
Speaker 1: begin from the forensic side of things, but I will
30:04
Speaker 1: tell you that story doesn't make sense. It doesn't hold water.
30:07
Speaker 1: And I don't buy that for one second. And it's
30:10
Speaker 1: disgusting that he would even say that. I feel the
30:13
Speaker 1: same way. Nothing is adding up. Maybe we can go
30:16
Speaker 1: back to doctor Debbie Joffee Ellis's theory that he thought
30:19
Speaker 1: maybe she was not shot, or that maybe what she
30:23
Speaker 1: was asleep on the bed. I'll have to explore that
30:25
Speaker 1: with her. Take a listen now to our friend Al
30:28
Speaker 1: Pefley WPEC CBS twelve. Totto told detectives at a hospital
30:32
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, oh my god, I think I hurt my Gracie,
30:36
Speaker 1: as he began to cry. The next day at the hospital,
30:38
Speaker 1: the arrest, Refort says mister Huddle stated that him and
30:41
Speaker 1: Gracie was playing inside of the hotel room as if
30:43
Speaker 1: they were shooting with their finger and a gun. As
30:46
Speaker 1: it turned out, their play turned into a tragedy. The
30:49
Speaker 1: arrest befort says mister Huddle went on to state as
30:51
Speaker 1: Gracie was sitting on the counter inside of the bathroom,
30:54
Speaker 1: he pointed the gun at Gracie, at which time it
30:56
Speaker 1: went off and shot her. The arrest report says Duncan's
30:59
Speaker 1: father believes gave Duncan drugs to sedate her. Hoddo is
31:02
Speaker 1: being held on two hundred and fifty five thousand dollars bond.
31:04
Speaker 1: He's charged with manslaughter and possession or use of a weapon.
31:08
Speaker 1: At his initial court appearance today, Hoddo did not say anything.
31:11
Speaker 1: The judge said he viewsed Hodo as a flight risk.
31:13
Speaker 1: The prosecutor told the judge that Houdo has prior rest
31:16
Speaker 1: for DUI, reckless driving and marijuana possession. Then why is
31:20
Speaker 1: he only charged with manslaughter? That that's something I don't understand,
31:26
Speaker 1: and I'm not going to get into the age difference.
31:28
Speaker 1: He's fifty four, she's just turned eighteen, but they drugging her.
31:35
Speaker 1: I mean the parents Ray Kaputo Wdbo had to know
31:40
Speaker 1: that she's in a romantic, a sex relationship with a
31:44
Speaker 1: man who's pushes sixty. Yeah, they did. And in fact
31:47
Speaker 1: it was her father too that that at tracked her
31:50
Speaker 1: phone and he was worried. But you know, Nancy's an
31:52
Speaker 1: eighteen year old girl. You know, I don't know the
31:54
Speaker 1: family dynamic, but she's eighteen. She's technically an adultance. You know,
31:58
Speaker 1: I don't know how much influence that has over at
32:01
Speaker 1: that point. Well, you know what, you're absolutely right. Take
32:05
Speaker 1: a listen to WPEC CBS twelve. This arrest report says
32:08
Speaker 1: Michael Huddo has admitted to the fatal shooting that killed
32:11
Speaker 1: his eighteen year old girlfriend. He says they were playing
32:14
Speaker 1: inside their Singer Island hotel room, but what started as
32:16
Speaker 1: two adults having fun led to a deadly outcome, which
32:20
Speaker 1: is so saded Healey Land says she was a close
32:23
Speaker 1: friend of Laura Duncan an elementary school. She was like bubbly,
32:26
Speaker 1: I'm really kind hearted. She was just really sweet, like
32:29
Speaker 1: she didn't have a mean ball in her body. A
32:31
Speaker 1: family friend describes the eighteen year old from Lake City
32:34
Speaker 1: is down to earth and having a heart of gold
32:36
Speaker 1: the Riviewer of Each. Police say her life was cut
32:38
Speaker 1: short by her fifty four year old boyfriend, Michael Huddo
32:41
Speaker 1: of Wellborn, Florida. Huddo was one of the co founders
32:44
Speaker 1: of Salt Life, a brand of leisure apparel and sunglasses,
32:47
Speaker 1: and according to the arrest report, he's married. On October
32:50
Speaker 1: twenty ninth, Riviewer Beach police were called to the Hilton
32:52
Speaker 1: Hotel on Singer Island to do a welfare check after
32:55
Speaker 1: Duncan's father was unable to reach her. They found Duncan's
32:58
Speaker 1: body on the floor in a seventh floor hotel room.
33:00
Speaker 1: She had a gunshot, one to the stomach. The previous day,
33:03
Speaker 1: police say Hyde was found at a gas station in
33:05
Speaker 1: Saint Augustine, twitching, making delusional comments and crying, oh blah blah.
33:11
Speaker 1: So he takes drugs. I mean, he knows that he's
33:14
Speaker 1: left the girl back in the room. This eighteen year
33:18
Speaker 1: old girl, Laura Grace Duncan is back in the room,
33:21
Speaker 1: dead and or dying, and he's loading up on drugs
33:25
Speaker 1: having left her there. I mean to you, doctor David
33:29
Speaker 1: Joffe Ellis psychologist, Professor Columbia. He knew that she had
33:35
Speaker 1: been shot. He told cops they were playing two adults
33:41
Speaker 1: playing gunshot with their finger. I don't know how a
33:44
Speaker 1: loaded gun got into that scenario. That he shot her
33:48
Speaker 1: in the stomach, he had sedated her for whatever reason
33:53
Speaker 1: and left her there. Yeah, there's no doubt that from
34:00
Speaker 1: what I'm hearing, that he's responsible. However, some of the
34:05
Speaker 1: things that are clear to me. And by the way,
34:07
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to imply earlier that he thought she
34:10
Speaker 1: was napping on the bed, No, I said that. But
34:15
Speaker 1: what seems pretty clear to me is that he and
34:19
Speaker 1: they were under the influence. When one is under the
34:22
Speaker 1: influence and playing around, there is no rational thinking, there's
34:26
Speaker 1: no groundedness in reality. There's ridiculousness. To me that the
34:31
Speaker 1: age difference is really no red flag in any way.
34:35
Speaker 1: It's very common for young girls to be seduced by
34:41
Speaker 1: the glamor of a successful old or welcome something. Can
34:44
Speaker 1: I ask you something, if it's that common, how many
34:47
Speaker 1: teen girls do you know eighteen dating a guy that's
34:52
Speaker 1: pushing sexy? I mean in your personal life, do you
34:55
Speaker 1: know anybody that's doing that? Well? In my personal life
34:59
Speaker 1: and and in my professional life, it's not uncommon. You
35:04
Speaker 1: do know a teen girl dating a sixty year old man?
35:07
Speaker 1: Not in my personal life, but yes, indeed yes, But wait, wait, wait,
35:11
Speaker 1: you say not in your personal life. I'm asking you.
35:15
Speaker 1: Do you know anybody whose daughter is a teen girl
35:19
Speaker 1: dating a guy pushing sixty At present? I don't, But
35:23
Speaker 1: in the past I have, yes, in your personal life,
35:26
Speaker 1: a teen girl was dating a guy pushing sixty. Yeah, okay,
35:32
Speaker 1: all right, because I don't. I don't know anybody whose
35:36
Speaker 1: teen girl is dating a sixty guy pushes sixty years old.
35:40
Speaker 1: But you know what it is, Hey, that's just me.
35:42
Speaker 1: So I don't think it is normal. I don't think
35:46
Speaker 1: that's normal or common. I don't think it's common. It's
35:50
Speaker 1: not uncommon, Nancy. It really it's not uncommon. That means
35:53
Speaker 1: it's common, and I don't think it is common. But
35:57
Speaker 1: that actually is neither here nor there. What matters is
36:02
Speaker 1: the fact that in our jurisprudence system, the voluntary use
36:07
Speaker 1: of drugs or alcohol is never a defense to a
36:12
Speaker 1: violent crime. Ever, there are cases where if the perpetrator
36:18
Speaker 1: is comatose, they're at that extent and they commit a
36:23
Speaker 1: violent crime, it could be a defense. But the reality
36:27
Speaker 1: is that's factually impossible, because if you're a comatose, you
36:31
Speaker 1: cannot commit a violent crime. You're passed out, Okay, totally
36:36
Speaker 1: passed out. The law is voluntary use of drugs or
36:40
Speaker 1: alcohol is not a defense. And another thing, while I'm
36:46
Speaker 1: on it shall not to a one grown person and
36:51
Speaker 1: a teen girl playing in a hotel where the teen
36:55
Speaker 1: girl is sedated, I imagine for sex purposes. They're playing
37:00
Speaker 1: what Tops and Robbers and he's the only one with
37:03
Speaker 1: a gun. Wow, that's some game. Yeah, people acted in
37:07
Speaker 1: extraordinary ways, Nancy, and not everyone acts in a nice
37:12
Speaker 1: kind of what the stereotypical idea of normal behavior is. Again,
37:20
Speaker 1: in my professional experience counseling variety of people of a
37:25
Speaker 1: variety of ages six play and fantastizing, is my unusual
37:32
Speaker 1: is that's some game that's not a game that's called murder. Look,
37:37
Speaker 1: I'm will tell you what I would not be surprised
37:40
Speaker 1: to see at all. You know they charged with manslaughter.
37:44
Speaker 1: That is the easy charge. Right now, they know that
37:46
Speaker 1: they have that charge. That charge is not going to
37:48
Speaker 1: get kicked out at some probable cause. Hearing that charge
37:51
Speaker 1: is not going to get dismissed on some motion from
37:54
Speaker 1: his defense lawyers. That's the low hanging fruit to keep
37:57
Speaker 1: him at bay in jail till they further investigate this.
38:01
Speaker 1: This is not a game. Let me tell you what
38:03
Speaker 1: they're gonna do. They're gonna look under her fingernails for
38:06
Speaker 1: his skin. They're gonna look on him to see if
38:08
Speaker 1: he has any injuries where this poor eighteen year old
38:11
Speaker 1: child was fighting him off. They're gonna go back and
38:14
Speaker 1: forensically look at this hotel room or struggle. They're gonna
38:17
Speaker 1: look at exactly what Rob Crispin said, this man left
38:20
Speaker 1: this room, left this poor girl. They're bleeding and dying
38:25
Speaker 1: without calling for help. They're gonna look at her text messages.
38:28
Speaker 1: They're gonna do it for as it called of her phone.
38:30
Speaker 1: They're gonna take a look and say, hey, well she's
38:32
Speaker 1: testing her friends back in fourth Hey he's acting weird,
38:35
Speaker 1: or he's acting filing, or I'm scared. I would not
38:38
Speaker 1: be surprised whatsoever if at the end of this case
38:42
Speaker 1: no one thought it was a game and his budd
38:45
Speaker 1: is sitting in jail on a murder charge. My fear
38:48
Speaker 1: is two things. One the sedation, because she may have
38:54
Speaker 1: been drugged out of her gourd so she didn't fight back.
38:59
Speaker 1: And two money Crispin Robert Crispin of Crispin Investigations. Money
39:05
Speaker 1: is floating around this area like water. If anybody interested
39:12
Speaker 1: in this case who would normally want a murder prosecution
39:16
Speaker 1: on behalf of this team, girl gets a stack of
39:20
Speaker 1: money and goes along with a manslaughter charge. This may
39:25
Speaker 1: just go away, just like hey, does Jeffrey Epstein that
39:29
Speaker 1: name ring a bell to you, Crispin and your backyard
39:33
Speaker 1: where Epstein is statutory raping these little girls and he
39:39
Speaker 1: gets poop a little slap on the hand. Is that
39:42
Speaker 1: what's going to happen this time in Florida with this guy?
39:46
Speaker 1: Clearly a clearly could ring that way. Of course, he's
39:50
Speaker 1: going to have the best legal defense team he's got
39:52
Speaker 1: going because money clearly is not an object for him.
39:55
Speaker 1: There's a lot of good points that were just brought
39:58
Speaker 1: up for text messages, for d forensics under her nails,
40:01
Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. But this has all the ear
40:03
Speaker 1: markings of a bad drug use gone bad. Um. You know,
40:10
Speaker 1: I love whether it was just after his Miranda or before.
40:13
Speaker 1: I love his spontaneous utterance of you know, I think
40:16
Speaker 1: I heard Gracie. I mean this goes back even the
40:18
Speaker 1: day or two before when the father went for the
40:21
Speaker 1: welfare check because he says his daughter was acting out
40:24
Speaker 1: a character. We'll see, it's just will see if money
40:29
Speaker 1: is running the courts down at Singer Island. We'll see
40:33
Speaker 1: Nancy Grace crime Story signing off, goodbye friend,