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$270,000 Worth of Chrome Hearts Jeans In The Club 🫠 · Heads Of State Podcast

0:24
SPEAKER_14: Thank you to Drew for sitting in last weekend.
0:28
SPEAKER_16: Sorry, I can I can I just say a personal um service announcement?
0:32
SPEAKER_16: That was my fault.
0:33
SPEAKER_16: Thank you, Drew.
0:33
SPEAKER_16: And I definitely want to meet you.
0:35
SPEAKER_16: We definitely got to hook up on the pods and you know lap to take my AC was out, and and it it was like shit, 89 degrees in here.
0:43
SPEAKER_16: And so I was like, we out.
0:46
SPEAKER_16: I'm not staying in here at this point.
0:48
SPEAKER_16: Hell no.
0:49
SPEAKER_16: I was like, yeah, at this juncture in my life, I can't do it.
0:52
SPEAKER_16: So yeah, that was our fault, but it was back.
0:55
SPEAKER_16: It was a great episode, and now we back and uh just look forward to uh chatting with my bros.
1:00
SPEAKER_16: Full of fact, full of fact.
1:02
SPEAKER_15: That's been an interesting week.
1:03
SPEAKER_11: You got them Yeezys, you got them Yeezys on the hold on.
1:07
SPEAKER_11: You got them Yeezy, them Yeezy with the with the titanium?
1:12
SPEAKER_14: I guess so, yeah.
1:14
SPEAKER_11: So what do you have to do?
1:16
SPEAKER_14: $40,$40yee.com.
1:19
SPEAKER_11: Oh shit.
1:21
SPEAKER_11: I guess they had to buy you some.
1:24
SPEAKER_14: They take 40 weeks, 40 weeks, 40 dollars.
1:26
SPEAKER_14: Nah, it took it actually, they shipped these pretty quick.
1:29
SPEAKER_14: They was up on the website got like a week later, which is crazy.
1:32
SPEAKER_16: That's not bad.
1:32
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, because easy has a history of like uh oh no no.
1:36
SPEAKER_14: I bought dude, when I first bought something off of there when they were doing the$20 items, I didn't get it until like seven months later.
1:45
SPEAKER_14: What you got some bottoms on there too?
1:48
unknown: Yeah.
1:48
SPEAKER_14: Oh shit.
1:50
SPEAKER_11: It grilled up like Ocho.
1:53
SPEAKER_11: I didn't see that.
1:54
SPEAKER_11: Okay, damn.
1:56
SPEAKER_14: So I gotta take them out of the sun.
1:59
SPEAKER_14: That's a Drew ass.
2:00
SPEAKER_14: I was like, I don't know, man.
2:01
SPEAKER_14: These aren't like the most durable grills.
2:04
SPEAKER_11: It's not like you know, you said$40.
2:06
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, it's not like Jacob the jeweler made these joints or anything.
2:09
SPEAKER_11: You know, you don't want to break your teeth for a couple of the meal.
2:12
SPEAKER_14: Ain't no diamond chips in these ones, y'all.
2:14
SPEAKER_14: Just take one.
2:17
SPEAKER_16: They got they got 10 minute shelf life, yeah.
2:20
SPEAKER_14: Yeah.
2:23
SPEAKER_14: I've been rocking, I rocked them yesterday on the thing, and then they're they're cool.
2:26
SPEAKER_14: They're a little novelty.
2:27
SPEAKER_14: I ain't gonna wear them ever again after today.
2:29
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
2:29
SPEAKER_11: No, no, shoot.
2:30
SPEAKER_11: You know what I'm saying?
2:31
SPEAKER_11: That Paul Wall, remember Paul Wall?
2:33
SPEAKER_11: Oh, Paul Wall, he was cooler.
2:35
SPEAKER_16: They used to fit them up.
2:37
SPEAKER_16: Houston had a run, man.
2:39
SPEAKER_16: Remember, we used to listen to Mike Jones.
2:41
SPEAKER_16: Oh, Mike Jones.
2:43
SPEAKER_16: Mike Jones, ooh.
2:44
SPEAKER_16: Bro said, you know what?
2:46
SPEAKER_16: I ain't got no lyrics.
2:47
SPEAKER_16: I'm just gonna put my phone number and make it a little bit more.
2:49
SPEAKER_16: And he's still got the same number.
2:50
SPEAKER_16: He's still got the same number.
2:52
SPEAKER_16: Oh, he does?
2:52
SPEAKER_16: Back then, I'm hot and all on me.
2:54
SPEAKER_16: Wow.
2:56
SPEAKER_16: Houston had a damn good run, yo.
2:58
SPEAKER_16: That run was serious.
2:59
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
3:00
SPEAKER_11: The South, the South really came.
3:02
SPEAKER_11: I mean, the South, the Atlanta, Houston, I mean, that whole situation became like frontline.
3:08
SPEAKER_11: You know, it changed the game.
3:10
SPEAKER_16: They took over rap.
3:12
SPEAKER_16: Once you like, of course, New York had their moment, but like you said, once Atlanta, Houston, New Orleans came through.
3:20
SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
3:20
SPEAKER_11: And they they took all the time.
3:22
SPEAKER_11: Because then it went all the way, and then St.
3:24
SPEAKER_11: Louis, then he went all the way to St.
3:25
SPEAKER_11: Louis with St.
3:27
SPEAKER_16: Hugh definitely had that Nelly jersey.
3:29
SPEAKER_16: I ain't gonna front.
3:30
SPEAKER_16: He had that.
3:31
SPEAKER_14: I wasn't wearing no vocal or whatever that shit was.
3:33
SPEAKER_16: Come on, bro.
3:34
SPEAKER_16: You had that pimp juice.
3:35
SPEAKER_16: I scenced you, yo.
3:36
SPEAKER_14: I seen you.
3:40
SPEAKER_14: That was the first like boutique I remember because I was like, where do you buy this shit?
3:45
SPEAKER_14: Like, it's not in Macy's, it's no, it's oh, it's only in some boutiques and shit, like upper end.
3:49
SPEAKER_14: Then you go to Marshall's on your college campus, and that's like 90 vocal t-shirts and booties and all that shit.
3:56
SPEAKER_16: State property owns Ross, yo.
3:58
SPEAKER_16: You can get a state property t-shirt.
4:00
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, are you there?
4:02
SPEAKER_14: Oh man, I'm about to go look.
4:04
SPEAKER_11: I want me some state.
4:06
SPEAKER_11: Yo, who so who owns state property?
4:09
SPEAKER_11: The clothing line.
4:10
SPEAKER_11: Who owns that?
4:11
SPEAKER_11: I mean, because I know iconists bought the whole Rock Aware thing.
4:15
SPEAKER_11: And Rock Aware, did they own state property?
4:18
SPEAKER_14: I think it's under Rock Aware, yeah.
4:21
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, I would assume so, right?
4:22
SPEAKER_11: Like so they probably bought all the all the imprints or whatever.
4:25
SPEAKER_11: All the subsidiaries, yeah.
4:26
SPEAKER_11: Like, don't let Dave hear that, though.
4:28
SPEAKER_11: Don't let Dave hear that.
4:29
SPEAKER_11: You you know what that should uh at Forman Mills, that's where that should be selling.
4:34
SPEAKER_11: Forman Mills!
4:38
SPEAKER_16: Hey bro, that should have value C on 40.
4:41
SPEAKER_02: Oh, that shit on 40.
4:46
SPEAKER_11: Yo, if you want to if you want a 4XT, you want a 4XT tall, you get a 4XT tall.
4:52
SPEAKER_11: I need my shit tall.
4:55
SPEAKER_11: I'm not gonna keep alive, but I need my shit long, yo.
4:58
SPEAKER_11: Yo, the big T's back in the day was the shit.
5:01
SPEAKER_11: Remember the the big thing.
5:02
SPEAKER_11: I still got some.
5:03
SPEAKER_14: I still got some in the garage.
5:06
SPEAKER_16: You know what's so you got it?
5:09
SPEAKER_16: No, you got it.
5:09
SPEAKER_16: No, it's it's so funny how we talk about like fashion and styles, right?
5:13
SPEAKER_16: Like back in the day, like Marble City, yo, you get like five T's for like 25 bucks.
5:19
SPEAKER_16: And that'd be your outfit.
5:21
SPEAKER_16: Like that'd be like you'd be fresh.
5:23
SPEAKER_16: But nowadays, yo, yo, you ain't got chrome hearts.
5:26
SPEAKER_16: No, that shit's$700 for a t-shirt.
5:30
SPEAKER_16: Niggas be paying that much.
5:32
SPEAKER_14: Did you see that viral video where homie was at the club and he talked about he's wearing like$200,000 Chrome Hearts jeans?
5:38
SPEAKER_14: What?
5:39
SPEAKER_14: $200,000?
5:40
SPEAKER_14: Yo, dog, I'll I'll find the shit.
5:42
SPEAKER_14: $200.
5:45
SPEAKER_16: Like, I just like, yo, we had$10 tease, and like you was fresh, yo.
5:51
SPEAKER_16: Like, you was like ready to go.
5:53
SPEAKER_11: You know what?
5:53
SPEAKER_11: It's funny.
5:54
SPEAKER_11: I uh Kanye, it was an old Kanye video I came across my feed, and Kanye was talking about how money makes people that are uncool seem like they're cool and they're uncool.
6:06
SPEAKER_11: It was like people have all this money, and then they really not cool.
6:10
SPEAKER_11: They really have so much money that they look they cool.
6:15
SPEAKER_11: Like, you actually look more less uncooler now.
6:18
SPEAKER_11: Um, buying those$70,000,$100,000 jeans.
6:23
SPEAKER_11: Are you kidding me?
6:24
SPEAKER_11: I mean, never in life.
6:26
SPEAKER_11: Like, are you this?
6:28
SPEAKER_11: There's more ways to say, it's dark.
6:31
SPEAKER_16: The club is dark, like you don't even know which jeans I got on.
6:34
SPEAKER_14: You gotta think if you're you always think your financial status changes your view on what's expensive and what's not, and what you want versus what you can afford.
6:43
SPEAKER_14: So I think that if look, if you were the billionaire and you were like, ah, fuck it, let me get some chrome, you probably do it because it's not that's a that's that's$70 jeans to you.
6:52
SPEAKER_14: Not even like$7 jeans.
6:54
SPEAKER_11: But but here, but here, but but here's the thing though.
6:57
SPEAKER_11: There are much better jeans that are to the pennies that I can buy instead of buying$70 jeans.
7:04
SPEAKER_11: If I'm a billionaire, I can buy uh I can buy a$300 pair of jeans that are amazing quality.
7:14
SPEAKER_14: It ain't Ralph though.
7:16
SPEAKER_11: Remember that first TV.
7:22
SPEAKER_11: It ain't Ralph.
7:23
SPEAKER_11: There's no way, there's no way 70,000 five figures, six figures for no fucking jeans ever in life.
7:29
SPEAKER_11: And they'd be whacked, they'd be like bedazzled.
7:32
SPEAKER_16: Like they're not even cool jeans.
7:34
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, like they're not bedazzled.
7:35
SPEAKER_14: They got the chrome.
7:36
SPEAKER_14: It's kind of played out to me.
7:38
SPEAKER_14: It's played out to me.
7:39
SPEAKER_11: Here's the thing they were somebody else's jeans.
7:43
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, they were they were Levi's, and they stitched on the chrome.
7:46
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, it's like hammy downs of hammy downs, of ham-me-downs.
7:51
SPEAKER_11: Like, come on, that's true.
7:54
SPEAKER_15: Nah, it's true fact, Joe.
7:56
SPEAKER_15: They used to just stitch on the chrome heart.
7:58
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, like I saw one where there was a classic pair of Levi.
8:02
SPEAKER_11: I saw on the feed, it was a prisoner from um Pelican Bay, some original fucking whatever.
8:09
SPEAKER_11: And uh 40s or some shit, and they it was some Levi's, and motherfucker, they had them, they they had them a white glove, and they was pulling them out of the whole encasement and shit.
8:21
SPEAKER_11: And I'm thinking to myself, the motherfuckers like trying to buy these jeans for thousands, tens of thousands, and I'm thinking to myself, where am I gonna put these?
8:30
SPEAKER_11: Like, oh, and they was like, oh, there's it's ripped right here.
8:33
SPEAKER_11: He was in a fight in prison.
8:35
SPEAKER_11: I'm thinking, man, yo, the hustle game is strong for this shit.
8:38
SPEAKER_11: Honestly, like if you can sell, sell jeans, sell, yeah, sell, sell company.
8:43
SPEAKER_16: Hey Marvel, guess what?
8:44
SPEAKER_16: So someone brought them shits too.
8:47
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, yo, would I come out?
8:50
SPEAKER_16: Okay, I'm gonna put us in my den.
8:53
SPEAKER_16: I'm gonna put us in the garage, okay?
8:54
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, like I got some shit is crazy.
8:58
SPEAKER_11: It's different now.
8:59
SPEAKER_15: It's so I'm looking for this video with the the Kanye.
9:02
SPEAKER_15: I mean not the Kanye.
9:03
SPEAKER_15: What was it?
9:04
SPEAKER_15: The chrome draw.
9:05
SPEAKER_11: Chrome hearts, chrome hearts, yeah.
9:07
SPEAKER_11: So who was the first Jim Jones with Chrome Hearts?
9:09
SPEAKER_11: Was he the first?
9:10
SPEAKER_16: Jimmy says he's the first.
9:13
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, what's up with your boy 38 Special and Capital?
9:15
SPEAKER_16: They gonna get together.
9:17
SPEAKER_16: Whoa!
9:17
SPEAKER_11: 38 Special 500,000.
9:20
SPEAKER_11: 500,000 for uh person with Jada.
9:23
SPEAKER_11: Hey, special, you don't have that.
9:24
SPEAKER_14: That's he's not even gonna talk.
9:26
SPEAKER_16: Like, I don't even think Jada.
9:27
SPEAKER_16: Jada, like if I'm Jada, I'm not even entertaining this.
9:30
SPEAKER_16: Like, who are you?
9:33
SPEAKER_11: Here's the thing.
9:34
SPEAKER_11: Here's the thing.
9:35
SPEAKER_11: He put up 500,000 and he is somebody out Jada has to put up the other 500,000, right?
9:41
SPEAKER_11: That's implied.
9:41
SPEAKER_11: I'll put up 500,000, right?
9:43
SPEAKER_11: If we somebody gonna walk away 500,000, then they're gonna do that shit.
9:47
SPEAKER_11: He's gonna be like, yo, bro, it's a time.
9:52
SPEAKER_16: Everybody gets their money back, yo.
9:54
SPEAKER_16: What I'm not better than you.
9:57
SPEAKER_16: I I remember um they sent a clip that said 38 special rhymes like he reads with his finger.
10:04
SPEAKER_16: Yes, uh, I cannot stop thinking about that when I hear him rhyme, you know.
10:11
SPEAKER_11: I I don't even why do you why did he pick out uh Jada?
10:17
SPEAKER_11: He because he said Jada didn't want to do a verse or he didn't want to do a verse.
10:20
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, he's like I I guess I guess he reached out to Jada like, yo, would you hop on the track?
10:24
SPEAKER_16: And I guess Jada's probably like, yo, I don't even know who you are, yo.
10:29
SPEAKER_16: Like, I'm not trying to be rude.
10:31
SPEAKER_16: I don't I'm I'm really not trying to be rude, but I just I I don't know who you are, so I'm not doing a verse with you.
10:38
SPEAKER_16: And he took it and really ran with it, like Jada was like disrespecting him.
10:43
SPEAKER_11: Kiss probably like, I don't even know what's so funny though.
10:48
SPEAKER_11: I he I I I do appreciate and I do I'm saddened by the fact that the next generation will never have this, is that we grew up in an era where we got to cherish our wet rap stars.
11:00
SPEAKER_11: Now they're bro, they they want they want fingernail paint away and a you know, fucking catwalk for being like America's next top model.
11:10
SPEAKER_16: Like, what's that's a great way of putting it, Marvel.
11:12
SPEAKER_16: We actually know too much about them.
11:14
SPEAKER_16: There's no mystique, there's no mystery.
11:18
SPEAKER_16: When we were growing up, you literally had an album for like five years, then they come out with another one.
11:23
SPEAKER_16: Like that was it.
11:25
SPEAKER_16: Ghostface was on the run with a mask on.
11:28
SPEAKER_16: Right, like I don't know him, but understood his music.
11:31
SPEAKER_16: I'm like, yo, this is tight, but like I didn't know what he was, but nowadays everyone's on social media, and you literally know everything that they're doing, and it actually makes them look like you like we said earlier.
11:43
SPEAKER_16: It makes you look uncool.
11:44
SPEAKER_16: Like shit y'all doing.
11:46
SPEAKER_13: Like that's true.
11:48
SPEAKER_14: I yeah, I heard it's I found I found it.
11:50
SPEAKER_14: Uh$270,000.
11:52
SPEAKER_14: No, it's a$300.
11:53
SPEAKER_14: $270,000.
11:54
SPEAKER_14: $270,000,000.
11:56
SPEAKER_15: These jeans better be like they jeans, y'all.
12:00
SPEAKER_15: They just jeans.
12:00
SPEAKER_11: Oh, G D G Gonna Reverb from me?
12:05
SPEAKER_11: Is that the Matrix or something?
12:07
SPEAKER_11: Is that me?
12:08
SPEAKER_11: Yo, get your get your uh get your get your internet up.
12:11
SPEAKER_15: Internet's up.
12:12
SPEAKER_11: Here we go, here we go.
12:13
SPEAKER_15: Your internet's not up.
12:15
SPEAKER_05: That we are at Chrome Heart's late-stage capitalism, like a scene from the Big Shorts.
12:19
SPEAKER_14: $270,000 Chrome Heart jeans to the club.
12:22
SPEAKER_14: It's like it's like rendering or something.
12:25
SPEAKER_05: It's still a lot of people got mad saying, oh, you don't get it, you don't get it.
12:29
SPEAKER_05: Brother, let me show you something.
12:30
SPEAKER_05: Welcome to the greatest show on earth.
12:32
SPEAKER_05: And action.
12:33
SPEAKER_05: In the movie The Big Short, there are two scenes that highlight how you can know when there's a bubble and why no one ever knows a bubble exists.
12:40
SPEAKER_05: First, anyone can see that there's a real estate bubble.
12:44
SPEAKER_05: Actually, no one can see a bubble.
12:45
SPEAKER_05: That's what makes it a bubble.
12:46
SPEAKER_05: That's dumb, Lawrence.
12:48
SPEAKER_05: Mortgage fraud.
12:49
SPEAKER_05: It's quit doubled since 2000.
12:51
SPEAKER_05: This is what you do, Sean.
12:53
SPEAKER_05: I can't hear it.
12:54
SPEAKER_05: I can't hear it.
12:55
SPEAKER_05: That means the homes are dead.
12:56
SPEAKER_05: Oh, here we go.
12:57
SPEAKER_11: Here we go.
12:57
SPEAKER_11: Here we go.
12:58
SPEAKER_11: Your internet sucks.
13:00
SPEAKER_11: No, no, no, no.
13:01
SPEAKER_11: No, it's buffering.
13:02
SPEAKER_11: Well, hold on.
13:03
SPEAKER_11: Was it buffering for you?
13:04
SPEAKER_11: No.
13:04
SPEAKER_11: No, no, that's good.
13:06
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, see.
13:06
SPEAKER_14: Okay.
13:07
SPEAKER_14: Get your internet up.
13:08
SPEAKER_14: Go get that.
13:09
SPEAKER_14: They'll pay that bill.
13:10
SPEAKER_04: Everyone would agree that homes are assets.
13:12
SPEAKER_04: Oh, here we go.
13:13
SPEAKER_04: But what happens when homes become a speculative purchase in the hopes of making more money?
13:17
SPEAKER_04: And everyone's in on it.
13:18
SPEAKER_04: One of my followers asked, Can you elaborate on how Chrome Hearts is in late stage?
13:22
SPEAKER_04: What makes the price late stage?
13:23
SPEAKER_04: Now you can pause this to read it all the way through, but in summary, let's read this.
13:26
SPEAKER_14: In late states, Caplan's Prices.
13:29
SPEAKER_14: I don't know.
13:29
SPEAKER_14: You're gonna read that?
13:30
SPEAKER_14: You wanna read it?
13:35
SPEAKER_14: Oh, you think I'm a bad reader?
13:36
SPEAKER_14: Is that what you say?
13:37
SPEAKER_14: No, no.
13:38
SPEAKER_14: You you ain't Floyd.
13:43
SPEAKER_14: Yo, come on, yo, stop.
13:45
SPEAKER_14: Yo, shout out to the guy who left the comment saying, Floyd.
13:47
SPEAKER_11: Yo, is Floyd gonna fight Pacquiao or what?
13:49
SPEAKER_11: Is he gonna fight Pacquiao?
13:51
SPEAKER_11: He wins.
13:52
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, hell yeah.
13:54
SPEAKER_14: Yeah.
13:55
SPEAKER_14: Let me go.
13:57
SPEAKER_14: We'll talk about that later.
13:59
SPEAKER_14: In late stage capitalism, price and intrinsic value completely detach.
14:04
SPEAKER_14: Is that the right word?
14:05
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, detach.
14:05
SPEAKER_14: Production transition into hyper-real status symbols where the high price tag becomes the value proposition.
14:14
SPEAKER_14: Ask why Chrome Heart's piece or why a Chrome Heart piece is worth$170,000.
14:20
SPEAKER_14: There's no what does that say practical answer?
14:24
SPEAKER_14: It's its cost is only justification.
14:29
SPEAKER_14: But this model is inherently fragile.
14:33
SPEAKER_14: The moment an owner needs liquidity and tries to flip the item, the lack of underlying utility is exposed.
14:43
SPEAKER_14: If no buyer steps up at first uh at full price, the seller is forced to discount it.
14:50
SPEAKER_14: That single markdown triggers panic.
14:53
SPEAKER_14: It sparks a metaphorical bank run as holders rush to offload a fundamentally useless asset before its illusion of value evaporates.
15:07
SPEAKER_11: Okay, before we move forward, you just describe Bitcoin.
15:12
SPEAKER_11: And I describe NFTs.
15:15
SPEAKER_03: That's literally everything.
15:16
SPEAKER_03: Shoes, sneakers, all that shit.
15:18
SPEAKER_14: Well, no, see, this is the thing about this is why I like like because I'm a sneaker guy.
15:22
SPEAKER_14: And when I buy 12 podcast prepositions and all that.
15:26
SPEAKER_14: Thank you.
15:26
SPEAKER_14: Thank you.
15:27
SPEAKER_14: But when I buy sneakers, sure, I'm a hobbyist at heart, and I know that the value is there to somebody else who also is a sneaker person, but the trends, the trends differ.
15:40
SPEAKER_14: Because right now, people are spending for a pair of uh like$90 vans, these these vans, whatever the fuck, souvenir vans, that's the name of the model.
15:49
SPEAKER_14: They're like distressed vans.
15:51
SPEAKER_14: People are paying high resale value for those.
15:55
SPEAKER_14: Well, while two, three years ago they were spending high resale value for Jordans.
15:59
SPEAKER_14: A year ago, they were spending high resale value for New Balance.
16:02
SPEAKER_14: So it ebbs and flows with the trends in the in the fashion marketplace.
16:06
SPEAKER_14: Chrome Hearts is always been exclusive.
16:11
SPEAKER_14: Celebrities wear it, but celebrities are not paying top dollar.
16:15
SPEAKER_14: Brookies are paying top dollar.
16:17
SPEAKER_14: That's where they like this guy in the video that he just showed, the guy sitting at the club with the chrome hearts, he paid out his ass to get that and put the shits in a go yard bag and go to the club and flex.
16:31
SPEAKER_14: Like he's got like$500,000 worth of fucking Levi's jeans with crosses on them.
16:36
SPEAKER_14: It ain't worth shit to anybody but the person who thinks that's fire, and but the person who thinks it's fire can't afford it.
16:43
SPEAKER_11: Well, well, here's the situation as well is that to sell a$500,000 pair, but what was it?
16:48
SPEAKER_11: How many, how much was that those pair of jeans?
16:51
SPEAKER_11: The what the pair of jeans that he was flexing in the video, that guy,$270,000.
16:55
SPEAKER_11: Okay, so it's okay.
16:56
SPEAKER_11: So I'm gonna explain this in one quick swoop.
16:59
SPEAKER_11: There we go.
17:00
SPEAKER_11: So someone to pay more than$270,000 or$270,000 for a pair of jeans, the economy has to be at the all-time high.
17:08
SPEAKER_11: You have to meet someone at a lich pen who wants to spend$170,000 for some jeans.
17:14
SPEAKER_11: It's very unlikely that that will happen.
17:17
SPEAKER_11: Most likely you'll sell them most in a when you need to sell those jeans.
17:20
SPEAKER_11: If you ever sell those jeans, you'll sell them for$30,000,$20,000, if not$5,000.
17:28
SPEAKER_11: It just drops.
17:29
SPEAKER_11: Hopefully, whatever you got them for.
17:31
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, like the the the the range, there it's not like when you're selling a house where you're like, oh, we're listing it for like$700,000 and we we sold for$645,000.
17:42
SPEAKER_11: This would be like, oh, we listed for$170 and we sold for$3,800.
17:48
SPEAKER_14: And that's not worth if you buy$68.
17:51
SPEAKER_14: What the celebs that buy these things, unless it's something custom, the the basic stuff like a t-shirt or a sweater or a pair of jeans, even because the jeans are custom, they don't cost more than like like you said,$3,500 to$5,000, maybe at the most.
18:08
SPEAKER_14: But the resale value, because once they're done with them, like like Drake got a ton of chrome hearts.
18:13
SPEAKER_14: He got, you know, it's to him,$3,500 for a pair of jeans ain't shit.
18:16
SPEAKER_14: But he can knowing that he could sell it to a reseller, he'll just connect with a reseller who's willing to pay double that to sell it to some schmuck for double that.
18:24
SPEAKER_14: And then they the prices just keep going up.
18:26
SPEAKER_14: And the crazy part about it, like when we talked about NFTs years ago, and you know, we had a couple of friends that were really heavy into them, flipping them and shit.
18:33
SPEAKER_14: I'm like, you're flipping JPEGs, yo.
18:35
SPEAKER_14: You're flipping fucking pictures.
18:36
SPEAKER_14: Like I can take a screen.
18:38
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, those gorilla eight niggas and all this other shit.
18:41
SPEAKER_14: Like it was so stupid.
18:42
SPEAKER_14: Like, I'm sitting here just trying trying to understand how this, you know, I understand Bitcoin because there's a bit of utility behind Bitcoin.
18:51
SPEAKER_14: But now banks are able, like Zell, fucking Cash App, Zenmo, that's Bitcoin.
18:58
SPEAKER_14: That's a utility.
18:59
SPEAKER_14: Instant money to your bank account, right?
19:02
SPEAKER_14: Very few hoops and ladders.
19:04
SPEAKER_14: But you have this thing that they throw a value on to do these transactions through millions of different people.
19:08
SPEAKER_14: It's it's actually more complicated than the corporate version, if you think about it.
19:13
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, it's free and evil, but like, okay, if I just want you to send me$10 for coffee, well, I'm gonna go through getting a code from the Bitcoin thing, putting it into my Bitcoin wallet, which has 50 different passwords, to get you$10 for coffee.
19:29
SPEAKER_14: Hell of a latte.
19:30
SPEAKER_14: And by the time it gets to you, hopefully it's still worth$10.
19:34
SPEAKER_11: Yes, exactly.
19:35
SPEAKER_11: Right, right, right.
19:36
SPEAKER_11: Yo, yo, you sent me$7.90.
19:38
SPEAKER_14: Hold on.
19:39
SPEAKER_14: The transactions, dog, the transaction fees are there because people have to pay for the transaction.
19:44
SPEAKER_14: And that's where this these things don't make start stop stop making sense.
19:49
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, of course.
19:50
SPEAKER_14: Everybody said this the greatest economists, the richest, the billionaires, the what's his name, the Warren Buffett's and all these guys.
19:57
SPEAKER_14: With Bitcoin, you have to understand what the utility actually is.
20:02
SPEAKER_14: And it's not with regular people, it's with drug dealers, orange dealers, terrorists, people who want to hide access.
20:12
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, hide it.
20:13
SPEAKER_14: So if you're buying a boatload of crack cocaine off of the dark web, you have to transfer that money somehow that nobody can trace it, and it's the easiest way to do that.
20:22
SPEAKER_14: That's the utility, right?
20:24
SPEAKER_14: And and it doesn't democratize anything.
20:27
SPEAKER_14: Currency is all bullshit.
20:28
SPEAKER_14: We live in a world where they keep printing money and it's worth less than it was.
20:33
SPEAKER_14: This is the reason that that's another reason why Chrome Hearts is worth 170.
20:36
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, inflation is rampant.
20:38
SPEAKER_14: We set we set interest rates, all this other bullshit, so money gains value, but if it's going down and interest rates go up, it's just you know what I'm saying?
20:46
SPEAKER_14: These things love that's why interest rates are still high and inflation is up and nothing's it's uh yeah, it's our perception.
20:52
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, it's all right.
20:53
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, it just makes you feel like the dollar, the money currency is not worth, but any currency right now is not worth as much as it was just five years ago.
21:01
SPEAKER_14: But billionaires have the most of it, so the value is there.
21:04
SPEAKER_14: If their money, you know, Elon Musk says, Hey, I'm deciding to liquidate, give some money back, or whatever, you know, it it brings it brings, I guess, more value into the marketplace because there's more or less.
21:17
SPEAKER_14: I don't know how it works.
21:17
SPEAKER_14: I'm not a guy, that guy, but he said Elon Musk what no, I'm just saying if if if if if somebody with a lot a billionaire puts more money back into the markets, because that's the whole theory, like the socialism, like they would tax the rich, make sure that they they um pay their fair share.
21:33
SPEAKER_14: I like the concept, but with the way money is just so fucking like uh accessible, because look how many millionaires are made that were made in the last five years.
21:44
SPEAKER_11: Well, it's it's it's yeah.
21:45
SPEAKER_11: Well, I mean, if you it goes it goes mostly into some kind of municipality type slush fund type of thing.
21:53
SPEAKER_11: So it never really gets to the to the people.
21:56
SPEAKER_11: But oh, what happened?
21:57
SPEAKER_11: Where did you go?
22:00
SPEAKER_14: That bitcoin shit got I took out the grills.
22:03
SPEAKER_16: Oh, you took out the list?
22:07
SPEAKER_16: Oh, come on, man.
22:08
SPEAKER_13: Yeah, we was enjoying it.
22:12
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, I was like, you're doing a good job, man.
22:15
SPEAKER_14: I know, I was picking game, man.
22:16
SPEAKER_14: I wasn't stuttering or nothing.
22:17
SPEAKER_14: I might even have to keep those in.
22:19
SPEAKER_14: Whatever chemicals are coming off of that shit are fucking making my brain work better.
22:23
SPEAKER_11: Anyway, go on.
22:25
SPEAKER_14: I'm sorry.
22:26
SPEAKER_11: Oh, uh, but no, it's like when the money goes in the system as far as taxes like that, right?
22:30
SPEAKER_11: It's supposed to go to like schools, municipalities, this, that, and the other.
22:34
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, roads and shit like that.
22:35
SPEAKER_11: But that's generally mismanaged grossly.
22:39
SPEAKER_11: So it best thing you can do, and that's why you know the the wealthiest practicality-wise, they create more jobs, so they might not pay taxes themselves individually, but their businesses, like when if Bezos doesn't pay taxes on his wealth, it's mostly because his wealth is uh intertwined into the ownership of Amazon, right?
22:59
SPEAKER_11: And Amazon employs hundreds of thousands of people, so effectively, right, because his capital is really at risk, and that's why he doesn't pay taxes on it, because it's at risk.
23:12
SPEAKER_11: He employs hundreds of thousands of people and they get paid and they pay taxes, right?
23:18
SPEAKER_11: So uh uh and the company itself, as far as workmen's comp and all that kind of stuff, pays taxes.
23:23
SPEAKER_11: So if he had cash, these people who are worth a hundred billion, all that cat a hundred billion cash in the bank, then maybe that would be different.
23:31
SPEAKER_11: But their their net worth is tied exclusively to these companies that employ hundreds of thousands of people.
23:39
SPEAKER_11: You know, so if it was somebody who's just worth, yeah.
23:42
SPEAKER_16: Speaking of basos, did you guys see his daughter?
23:45
SPEAKER_16: Did you guys see that clip?
23:46
SPEAKER_16: Oh, like she was uh she was uh oh oh on the boat thing, the leaving the boat thing?
23:52
SPEAKER_16: No, she was like an airport, like she was like an airport, and like that's big.
23:55
SPEAKER_16: I don't even know if it's really her, but she's like like she was flying commercials, like it's pretty cool.
24:00
unknown: Hmm.
24:02
SPEAKER_14: Uh why is that cool?
24:04
SPEAKER_14: Who cares?
24:04
SPEAKER_14: Well, hold on, hold on.
24:06
SPEAKER_14: She here, I found it, I found it.
24:08
SPEAKER_11: Is she kind of thicker?
24:09
SPEAKER_11: Is she kind of thicker?
24:10
SPEAKER_11: Yes, that's what we want to know.
24:12
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, exactly.
24:13
SPEAKER_12: Oh shit.
24:15
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, I was like, oh, okay.
24:19
SPEAKER_01: Hold on.
24:20
SPEAKER_01: Can I show this on TV?
24:22
SPEAKER_14: Can I show this?
24:24
SPEAKER_14: Let me see.
24:24
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, you said well, yeah.
24:25
SPEAKER_14: She looked like Omni fans, yo.
24:28
SPEAKER_14: Look at this.
24:28
SPEAKER_14: Oh, yeah, yeah.
24:29
SPEAKER_14: Damn.
24:30
SPEAKER_14: I mean, not it's not, it's not like Is that really his daughter?
24:33
SPEAKER_12: That's the thing.
24:34
SPEAKER_16: I don't know if it's really her, but it was online, so I guess it happened.
24:38
SPEAKER_14: No, that can't be flight after Biza.
24:41
SPEAKER_14: Nah, that can't be his daughter.
24:42
SPEAKER_14: That can't be his daughter.
24:43
SPEAKER_14: Wait, let's let's I mean, I I look.
24:46
SPEAKER_11: All right, look up, look up, Jeffy.
24:48
SPEAKER_11: Let's see.
24:49
SPEAKER_11: We gotta figure.
24:50
SPEAKER_11: No.
24:50
SPEAKER_14: That's not these are his kids apparently here.
24:53
SPEAKER_11: But that was 20 years old.
24:54
SPEAKER_14: Oh, hold on, hold on.
24:54
SPEAKER_14: What's the that's not 20 years ago, is it?
24:57
SPEAKER_14: Four kids with his wife.
24:58
SPEAKER_14: Let me see.
24:58
SPEAKER_14: Oh, wait, there she oh, wait, maybe that is her.
25:00
SPEAKER_14: Oh, oh, there's another one.
25:02
SPEAKER_14: Jeff B's daughter spotted backstage at Diplo concert.
25:07
SPEAKER_11: Hold on, which one is uh that's not an approach?
25:10
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, where's the baby one?
25:12
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, that's the backstage at Ursula before Diplo, Dipset.
25:17
SPEAKER_14: Dipset.
25:18
SPEAKER_14: I don't, I mean, there's gotta be a picture of them two together, right?
25:21
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, yeah.
25:22
SPEAKER_16: I mean and she doesn't look like the other ones, I will say that.
25:25
SPEAKER_14: No, uh yeah.
25:26
SPEAKER_14: Uh that must be her kids.
25:29
SPEAKER_14: This is her again.
25:31
SPEAKER_11: Oh, oh, oh, hold on.
25:32
SPEAKER_14: Is it oh yeah, that what that so that came out of him and his his first wife?
25:39
SPEAKER_14: I'm assuming.
25:41
SPEAKER_11: I thought he only was married one time.
25:44
SPEAKER_14: Well, isn't he married?
25:46
SPEAKER_14: He married Sanchez, right?
25:48
SPEAKER_14: And she was dating uh Tony Gonzalez.
25:50
SPEAKER_14: Tony Gonzalez, who's that about it?
25:52
SPEAKER_14: Isn't it a hemp football player?
25:53
SPEAKER_14: Yeah.
25:54
SPEAKER_14: Oh one over the other, right?
25:56
SPEAKER_11: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
25:58
SPEAKER_14: What does she do for a living?
26:00
SPEAKER_14: She I guess she's just a trust fund baby, because I don't.
26:02
SPEAKER_14: Or maybe, I don't know, she might have a real career.
26:04
SPEAKER_14: Her mom's is very accomplished and very wealthy.
26:09
SPEAKER_14: Shout out to um Jeff Bezos' ex-wife giving all the money to the blacks.
26:12
SPEAKER_11: You know what?
26:13
SPEAKER_11: I'm just gonna shout out Jeff Bezos' ex-wife.
26:15
SPEAKER_11: Look alright, though.
26:15
SPEAKER_11: I ain't gonna front.
26:16
SPEAKER_11: Jeff Bezos' ex-wife is a big one.
26:17
SPEAKER_11: Who McKenzie?
26:21
SPEAKER_11: No, no.
26:22
SPEAKER_14: If her skin is pale, he'll give it the most pet in the world.
26:26
SPEAKER_14: It'll be no look, look, look, look, look.
26:28
SPEAKER_14: It'll be a supermodel, miss universe from from Ghana.
26:32
SPEAKER_14: This thing will be like, no, that that bitch I saw on Instagram rapping in front of the trash can with the blonde hair looked better.
26:41
SPEAKER_14: I'm just saying.
26:42
SPEAKER_11: I said, you know, like she alright though.
26:45
SPEAKER_14: I mean, no, she's fine.
26:46
SPEAKER_14: She's fine as a like I don't think she's unattractive.
26:50
SPEAKER_14: She's a she's a regular person who does regular things.
26:52
SPEAKER_16: And speaking, speaking of um Jeff Basil's ex-wife, McKenzie, uh, she's given a lot of money to HBCUs, and we just have some HBCU news this week.
27:02
SPEAKER_16: What would you guys take on the uh you can't wear it?
27:06
SPEAKER_16: No bonnet.
27:06
SPEAKER_14: The bonnet is the Sakiki.
27:09
SPEAKER_14: I didn't read into it too much, but I guess it's um I mean look, back in the day, sure, there used to be dress codes on campus.
27:17
SPEAKER_14: Like if you go back to any college, HBCU, whatever, there used to be codes of ethics, I guess let's call them.
27:24
SPEAKER_14: You know, where people uh and you'd be more disciplined.
27:27
SPEAKER_14: So yeah, you had to dress a certain way and whatever.
27:30
SPEAKER_14: Lax dress codes have become a thing now.
27:33
SPEAKER_14: Um, and now it's gotten to the point, you know, girls are wearing like girls are wearing like booty shorts and all types of crazy shit to class.
27:39
SPEAKER_14: Like and and I think there's I I don't find it wrong.
27:44
SPEAKER_14: You should be well kept, especially if you're paying for an education.
27:47
SPEAKER_11: Do you guys ever think, and look, this can be a loaded question.
27:50
SPEAKER_11: This can be a question that you know is way far out there, but it could be a possibility.
27:56
SPEAKER_11: Do you think that there will ever be a degree in OnlyFans?
28:02
SPEAKER_11: Like a degree, some kind of like some kind of like socialized, some kind of yes.
28:07
SPEAKER_11: I hate to see what their final exam is.
28:10
SPEAKER_14: Yes.
28:11
SPEAKER_11: Like, I mean, they might have their own kind of program to teach women, young ladies, how to get in the world.
28:19
SPEAKER_11: Like street streamer university, yeah.
28:21
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, exactly.
28:22
SPEAKER_14: Like yeah, I think I think there is like an OnlyFans fucking class you can do.
28:28
SPEAKER_11: Is there a training type of class?
28:29
SPEAKER_11: Like, does it when you see it?
28:30
SPEAKER_14: What do you get trained on though?
28:33
SPEAKER_11: I mean, like, look, oh, how do you get good talk?
28:36
SPEAKER_14: How to like make uh good content to lore in 14-year-olds?
28:40
SPEAKER_14: Like, how do you do this?
28:41
SPEAKER_14: Like that's what yo, Doug, they've gotten so good at this shit.
28:44
SPEAKER_14: Like these, these the stuff that I see on the timeline now with these girls just putting up random, they'll they'll put like three posts.
28:51
SPEAKER_14: I'll go to a page, it's like, oh, what the fuck is this?
28:53
SPEAKER_14: Three posts, and they do all do the same thing, and they'll repost something over and over again because the algorithm keeps picking it up.
28:58
SPEAKER_14: Some of these girls have four things on their page with an OnlyFans link, and then like 10 million views on one post, and they only have four things on their page.
29:06
SPEAKER_16: Well, what are they doing in those posts?
29:07
SPEAKER_16: Like, what's the post?
29:08
SPEAKER_14: Nothing, they'll just do something stupid.
29:10
SPEAKER_14: Like, they'll there was this one chick.
29:12
SPEAKER_14: I'm not, I'm not gonna say, but she said she said something about um man, I I'd play it if I could find it.
29:19
SPEAKER_14: I it always and Sean, I I mean I you know, I I've sent these around and stuff like that, but it it they say these these very provocative things, like they're talking to you, right?
29:30
SPEAKER_14: You know, like oh, I I'll just use one.
29:32
SPEAKER_14: This is very vulgar.
29:33
SPEAKER_14: I'm sorry, children, to cover your ears.
29:35
SPEAKER_14: Like, oh, um, I like, you know, I don't um what is it like she's the girl said something like I yeah, I want you to like to nut in my mouth or whatever, whatever.
29:48
SPEAKER_14: And then she looks at the camera and is like, you know, like like like just says it nonchalantly.
29:53
SPEAKER_14: Pause.
29:54
SPEAKER_14: Right?
29:54
SPEAKER_14: Well nonchalantly, it's hard to say that nonchalantly, but no, but it's it's a but no, but she's like it's it's a it's a seems like these clips that you're getting are very uh directed.
30:04
SPEAKER_14: No, they are they're directed towards men, like every man sees it.
30:08
SPEAKER_14: So I look at it and I'm like, that's very and I share it with my friends because I think it's funny.
30:12
SPEAKER_14: I'm looking at this girl just saying this shit, but then you look on the link to the only fan and you see, like, damn, they've got subscribers.
30:19
SPEAKER_14: And and the crazy part about it in this parasocial world that we live in, where people think that you know, a high level of engaging with another human being is actually text messaging and not talking.
30:32
SPEAKER_14: Like, I know people who think that they're dating people because they've been texting for a month, and I'm looking at it like I mean, look, I I I know, you know, all of us are in relations, I don't think that any one of us said, hey, for let's just say you're texting your nephews, your wife or whatever, for a month, and you're thinking to yourself, like, damn, we're moving.
31:02
SPEAKER_14: Like, this is something like I I have female friends that I text like that.
31:07
SPEAKER_14: I have male friends I text like that.
31:09
SPEAKER_14: I text my nieces like that, I text back random people who have my phone number in their directory, and all of these, some of these relationships I don't even consider to be real, obviously.
31:20
SPEAKER_14: And then like when I'm talking to my family or friends, those are real relationships, but I also pick up the phone and call them, you know, or actually go out and visit them.
31:30
SPEAKER_14: There's motherfuckers who think that sending a voice note is like, oh my god, I I've made it to like a relationship.
31:38
SPEAKER_14: That's a new thing.
31:38
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, that's a new thing now.
31:39
SPEAKER_14: It's wow.
31:42
SPEAKER_16: I think the words are social, right?
31:43
SPEAKER_11: Like it's interesting because it's like someone taking your order like at a fast food or checking you out is not a person anymore.
31:53
SPEAKER_16: So that's at the Wendy's.
31:55
SPEAKER_16: I went to the Wendy's last week, and when you pull up, it's literally a machine doing it, and then you get to the window, and that's when you take from a person.
32:02
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, but it's it's interesting because I mean, but how often do we pick up the phone and talk to people though?
32:08
SPEAKER_14: No, I know I know communication is different, but we're able to communicate like that.
32:12
SPEAKER_14: Like I'll I'll randomly call you sometimes, sure catch up, and we'll talk, you know, as long as you have the time, we'll be on the phone for maybe 30 minutes, 40 minutes.
32:21
SPEAKER_14: You know, I talk to Sean every day on the phone.
32:24
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, we text too.
32:26
SPEAKER_16: We're older though, we're from a different, like you guys think we're from an era where we had house phones.
32:32
SPEAKER_16: He asked a kid today.
32:33
SPEAKER_16: I mean, ask your niece today.
32:34
SPEAKER_16: Does she have a house phone?
32:35
SPEAKER_16: She probably like, what the hell is a house phone?
32:37
SPEAKER_14: They do have a they do have a house phone, but she doesn't use it.
32:39
SPEAKER_14: The grandfather used to pick up the phone.
32:40
SPEAKER_16: Right, but yeah, it's like you know, like we're from a whole we're that last era of we had the 80s, 90s, internet.
32:48
SPEAKER_16: Well, what the we came in just when the internet started popping off.
32:52
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, but it's people now they they don't even oh yeah.
32:55
SPEAKER_11: Kids being born today don't even know what a CD is at all.
32:59
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, to them that shit is like Star Trek.
33:02
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
33:04
SPEAKER_11: It's like remember the A-Trax?
33:06
SPEAKER_11: We was like, oh, A-Track, you know.
33:11
SPEAKER_16: I still think CDs are the best form of music, though.
33:13
SPEAKER_16: I really do.
33:14
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, CD's that character.
33:16
SPEAKER_11: CD was, yeah, CD was as good.
33:18
SPEAKER_11: But once streaming capital, I mean it's it's like it's like Napster legendary.
33:25
SPEAKER_11: Oh my god.
33:25
SPEAKER_11: Napster.
33:27
SPEAKER_11: I used to have just for Napster.
33:30
SPEAKER_11: I used to look for more RAM and more RAM and more uh gig hard drive just for uh Napster.
33:38
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, man.
33:39
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, I remember I bought my first Dell computer.
33:41
SPEAKER_14: I back in college.
33:42
SPEAKER_14: I I used they gave me the little credit card.
33:46
SPEAKER_14: I remember you had that compact when I was staying with you.
33:48
SPEAKER_14: You had that shit, and you had like all of all your all the MP3s, you still have the floppy disk too.
33:52
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, all that shit.
33:53
SPEAKER_14: But all of this you do that stuff nowadays.
33:56
SPEAKER_16: Someone look at you like, what the hell does this?
33:59
SPEAKER_14: Dog, I can't even I have all these DVDs and CDs that I was trying to digitize and put them on the cloud, but it's tough because you have to put them in like it's it's a laborist to be to put the disc into the little disk drive.
34:12
SPEAKER_14: I bought one, an external one, and it's like, how long is it gonna take to move these files?
34:16
SPEAKER_14: And you have to convert them because now those files are obviously gonna encode them.
34:19
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, remember, remember, like they'd be what were the files like AVI files, A VI, yep, you know, and then you had to remember on the on on the Windows Media Player, sometimes you had to download the codex, yeah, yeah.
34:32
SPEAKER_14: Like, damn, you dad, and you know what we talk about, people.
34:35
SPEAKER_14: We used to have to download this shit.
34:37
SPEAKER_14: Now it's just a nowadays, you know, like yeah, like it's it's just incredible.
34:43
SPEAKER_16: Um, what did you guys think on the did you guys see that the Odyssey got leaked?
34:47
SPEAKER_14: Was clutter two and leaked it?
34:48
SPEAKER_14: Oh, yeah.
34:49
SPEAKER_14: I have a link.
34:49
SPEAKER_14: The whole link, yeah.
34:50
SPEAKER_14: I have a link to it.
34:51
SPEAKER_14: Oh, I might watch it again.
34:52
SPEAKER_14: I might watch it.
34:53
SPEAKER_14: I'll send you the link.
34:54
SPEAKER_14: I think Kari sent it through the uh group.
34:56
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, I saw we saw it twice in the movie theater.
34:58
SPEAKER_11: It was good.
34:58
SPEAKER_11: I have to it was damn good.
35:00
SPEAKER_11: And Marvel, you know my theory.
35:02
SPEAKER_11: If I stayed awake for it, that shit was good.
35:05
SPEAKER_11: Same.
35:05
SPEAKER_11: I mean, yeah.
35:06
SPEAKER_11: I used well the good well with IMAX, I have a better chance.
35:09
SPEAKER_11: With the other percent if I'm feed if I've wheels up, if it's a regular movie, yeah, you got about 10 minutes and I'm gone.
35:17
SPEAKER_16: I'm just straight up gone.
35:19
SPEAKER_11: That's it.
35:21
SPEAKER_11: Oh, the same way.
35:24
SPEAKER_16: The movie be dark, it'd be cold.
35:26
SPEAKER_16: I'd be like, yo, whatever.
35:28
SPEAKER_16: I'll catch that.
35:29
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, I'll catch it on Netflix or streaming.
35:32
SPEAKER_16: I do want to see Obsession though.
35:33
SPEAKER_16: I saw that that drop um, yeah.
35:35
SPEAKER_16: That looks good.
35:36
SPEAKER_16: I I'm hearing some good things on that.
35:38
SPEAKER_16: So yeah, it was pretty good.
35:39
SPEAKER_11: She did uh um the actress did a really good job.
35:42
SPEAKER_11: Um, it it was it was uh it was a good um good thriller horror movie.
35:46
SPEAKER_11: It's not it's not gory, right?
35:48
SPEAKER_11: Like it's not a lot of blood or stuff.
35:49
SPEAKER_16: Not really.
35:49
SPEAKER_16: Not really.
35:50
SPEAKER_14: I saw uh I saw that I haven't seen it.
35:52
SPEAKER_14: I haven't been watching movies or anything lately, so I don't know anything about this shit.
35:57
SPEAKER_16: You you haven't seen um Odyssey yet?
35:59
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, you gotta see it.
36:00
SPEAKER_16: You should see Odyssey.
36:01
SPEAKER_16: Odyssey's good, bro.
36:03
SPEAKER_11: You gotta see it at IMAX.
36:05
SPEAKER_15: Not an IMAX.
36:06
SPEAKER_15: Well, IMAX, yeah, maybe.
36:07
SPEAKER_15: Who knows?
36:08
SPEAKER_11: What about Twitter?
36:10
SPEAKER_11: Watch it on Twitter.
36:11
SPEAKER_11: Don't you got it on Twitter?
36:12
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, I do have a link.
36:13
SPEAKER_14: I just don't I like to, you know, I'll give it link.
36:15
SPEAKER_11: Well, send it to me.
36:16
SPEAKER_11: I'm gonna play it tonight.
36:17
SPEAKER_11: Send it to me.
36:17
SPEAKER_11: I'm gonna play it tonight.
36:18
SPEAKER_14: I think it's our group chat with Cari.
36:20
SPEAKER_14: Or maybe send the sneaker one.
36:21
SPEAKER_14: I don't know.
36:21
SPEAKER_14: I'll send it to the next one.
36:22
SPEAKER_16: Are you guys uh you guys gonna see Spider-Man this week?
36:26
SPEAKER_16: Um I hadn't actually I didn't well maybe.
36:29
SPEAKER_16: I don't know.
36:30
SPEAKER_16: Maybe maybe I'll take X to see that actually.
36:33
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, actually, you know what?
36:34
SPEAKER_16: I think it'll come out tomorrow.
36:35
SPEAKER_16: What's tomorrow?
36:35
SPEAKER_16: Thursday come out tomorrow night, probably.
36:37
SPEAKER_16: Yeah.
36:37
SPEAKER_16: It's already it's already projected to do like 600 million already.
36:41
SPEAKER_16: Like it's crazy.
36:42
SPEAKER_16: That's wild.
36:45
SPEAKER_16: So you check it out.
36:47
SPEAKER_14: Oh yeah, I had I had a oh, I only had listen.
36:50
SPEAKER_14: Did you see that baseball player who ruptured his testicle when he hit the foul ball?
36:57
SPEAKER_14: It was on uh the A's, right?
36:59
SPEAKER_14: I think you see that video though, dude ran to the front, and then they don't know by a site.
37:05
SPEAKER_16: I would have I wouldn't have made it through with pixelated, would have died right there, like on on home base, yo.
37:11
SPEAKER_15: I need to pay his energy though, you know.
37:14
SPEAKER_16: Here he lies on third base.
37:17
SPEAKER_15: Shit.
37:18
SPEAKER_15: What did he oh man?
37:20
SPEAKER_15: I don't put this up on the screen.
37:25
SPEAKER_16: These guys don't wear cups anymore nowadays.
37:27
SPEAKER_16: They don't?
37:28
SPEAKER_14: Like I used to wear that shit.
37:29
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, my dad made us wear that shit because I just looked at the fucking thing here.
37:34
SPEAKER_14: Okay, don't even put it up.
37:35
SPEAKER_14: Yo, come on, bro.
37:36
SPEAKER_14: No, the the story is amazing, though.
37:38
SPEAKER_14: He he ran the bases, didn't he?
37:40
SPEAKER_14: He hit like a triple or some shit like that.
37:43
SPEAKER_14: He ran and then they found out he ruptured a testicle.
37:47
SPEAKER_14: Like, dog, I can't even imagine.
37:49
SPEAKER_14: Like, right, the b I don't know if they I don't I think there's a bit of shock.
37:54
SPEAKER_14: Uh adrenaline and shock and all that shit.
37:56
SPEAKER_14: Sure, sure.
37:56
SPEAKER_14: Later that night, though.
37:58
SPEAKER_14: Oh man.
37:58
SPEAKER_14: But but but when you think about it, like I don't even know.
38:01
SPEAKER_14: I don't know, man.
38:02
SPEAKER_14: This dude's got, you know, I I'm not gonna, you're right, I'm not gonna play it.
38:06
SPEAKER_14: But um it's uh I just saw can I just watch the clip where the foul ball went off the the thing?
38:11
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, I I thought you had to wear a cup, like it makes sense.
38:15
SPEAKER_16: I mean I used to wear it in the day like when we played, you know what I'm saying?
38:19
SPEAKER_16: You had to, but these guys like in football, these guys barely wear pads now, especially like the the receivers and stuff.
38:26
SPEAKER_16: They'd be like, they just don't wear pads, yo.
38:28
SPEAKER_16: They just they want speed rather than like constriction of pads and and yeah, uniform and shit.
38:33
SPEAKER_14: So yeah, basketball players don't wear them either anymore, I think.
38:37
SPEAKER_14: Um I don't know what happened.
38:40
SPEAKER_14: You see, you probably spilled some of that seafood boil on your fucking laptop or whatever.
38:45
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, you had laser.
38:48
SPEAKER_11: Actually, that wasn't that seafood boil wasn't even that good, to be honest.
38:51
SPEAKER_11: Uh so where'd you go?
38:53
SPEAKER_11: It it was uh I forgot it was some random spot, but it they didn't season, you know.
38:57
SPEAKER_11: The the the butter wasn't seasoned with like really well with all the stuff.
39:01
SPEAKER_14: It wasn't so let me ask you a question about seafood because I or I've ordered them a few times.
39:06
SPEAKER_14: Um, I actually you inspired me.
39:08
SPEAKER_14: I ordered one for my local place, and they they do them pretty good, but I ended up just getting the garlic butter, and then I added my own um old bait on the bag.
39:15
SPEAKER_16: Oh, butter and shit.
39:16
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, but they they did the thing.
39:17
SPEAKER_14: I asked them for spicy.
39:19
SPEAKER_14: When I opened up the bag, it looked like it didn't look spicy.
39:21
SPEAKER_14: So wait, when they boil it, do they boil it in the seasoning, like a seasoning?
39:25
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, yeah, okay.
39:27
SPEAKER_14: Because it's it I didn't I don't know, maybe it was spicy and wasn't enough spice.
39:31
SPEAKER_14: I don't know.
39:32
SPEAKER_14: So it was good though, because the butter was great.
39:34
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, they have a whole situation they do with the yeah, sometimes they put like all kinds of mouth.
39:41
SPEAKER_14: Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
39:42
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, big plastic bag.
39:44
SPEAKER_14: Did you get potatoes?
39:45
SPEAKER_14: Remember we were talking about it.
39:46
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, actually, I did, I did, but it wasn't, it wasn't see it.
39:49
SPEAKER_11: It was like when I when I when I pour mine out, I like that to be a thick, like a roux butter, you know.
39:55
SPEAKER_11: Sometimes the butter is like too like clear.
39:58
SPEAKER_14: I don't know, yeah.
39:59
SPEAKER_14: Watery, yeah.
40:00
SPEAKER_14: So, dude, they gave me two things of butter, two, you know, those containers, it was like the uh plastic.
40:06
SPEAKER_14: They gave me two of those.
40:07
SPEAKER_14: So the first one I was dipping, I mixed up and dipped all the same, and then I had a bunch of it left over, and then I had no, I my my seafood bowl cost 120 bucks.
40:16
SPEAKER_14: And I got so much, they gave me a ton of potatoes.
40:19
SPEAKER_14: I had one lobster tail, which I regret getting because the lobster tail did they split it?
40:22
SPEAKER_14: Did they split it?
40:23
SPEAKER_14: By the time I got to the house, it was uh yes, it was split, but it was it was small and was a little tight.
40:29
SPEAKER_14: It was a reverie, yeah, yeah, yeah.
40:31
SPEAKER_14: I didn't like that.
40:31
SPEAKER_14: You know, you gotta get the split with the boil, yeah.
40:33
SPEAKER_14: But but you almost gotta eat it there, yo.
40:36
SPEAKER_14: Exactly, exactly.
40:37
SPEAKER_14: But the shrimp was on point.
40:39
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, oh yeah, the shrimp was on point.
40:41
SPEAKER_14: And what else did I get?
40:42
SPEAKER_14: Oh, mussels, muscles and shrimp.
40:44
SPEAKER_14: That's all I got.
40:45
SPEAKER_14: You got the green muscles, which ones you get?
40:47
SPEAKER_14: I don't know what I got.
40:48
SPEAKER_14: It's just I just picked the muscles.
40:50
SPEAKER_14: Oh, green muscles, green muscles and upcharge.
40:52
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, yeah.
40:53
SPEAKER_14: Oh, and it had um the sausages in there too.
40:56
SPEAKER_14: The sausages were delicious.
40:57
SPEAKER_14: So I had a whole bunch left over, right?
41:00
SPEAKER_14: So what I did the next day is I took my big ass pot, uh-huh, I took the that seasoned butter that I made with the old bay and the garlic butter, poured it in the bag, shook it up, put it on my my big pot steamer joint, let it let it cook through.
41:17
SPEAKER_14: Man, whoo! That was that was like next level.
41:22
SPEAKER_11: Sometimes I'll make I'll use some of the butter and make it like a crack and egg and make an egg on there.
41:27
SPEAKER_11: Oh, and then the sausage with the sausage on this on the side.
41:31
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
41:32
SPEAKER_15: About the order of the seafood boil, man.
41:35
SPEAKER_15: Friday's payday.
41:36
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, shout out to the seafood boil.
41:38
SPEAKER_16: Shout out to the seafood boil.
41:39
SPEAKER_15: But yeah, you know, yeah.
41:41
SPEAKER_16: You know what's so funny being from Maryland and you know, my sister loving crabs and shit.
41:45
SPEAKER_16: I just never got into seafood.
41:47
SPEAKER_16: Like, I was just a chicken.
41:48
SPEAKER_16: You don't really eat, yeah, you don't really eat crabs and stuff like that.
41:51
SPEAKER_16: I never really got it.
41:52
SPEAKER_16: Like, I'm like, why am I doing all that for that amount of work?
41:55
SPEAKER_16: Just give me a chicken wing of tender or something.
41:57
SPEAKER_02: Tender.
41:59
SPEAKER_16: Tinder.
41:59
SPEAKER_11: Give me a tender.
42:00
SPEAKER_11: You know what I mean?
42:02
SPEAKER_11: I I I like uh I I I was never like really big into the Maryland crab like that, but I love it now.
42:09
SPEAKER_11: I'll eat I'll I'll eat Maryland crab like crazy now.
42:12
SPEAKER_11: A snow crab, I mean, lobster.
42:14
SPEAKER_11: I mean, I'll crack a lobster like all day.
42:16
SPEAKER_11: Like I love seafood.
42:18
SPEAKER_16: Man, then lobster.
42:20
SPEAKER_16: When we go to the vineyard, man, they'd be eating lobster like this fucking like Slurpees from 7 Eleven.
42:26
SPEAKER_11: I'm not Oh, that's how we was.
42:27
SPEAKER_11: In Maine, we were eating lobster.
42:29
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, like because they it's I guess it's so bountiful there that you can just like it's not like ship them anymore.
42:35
SPEAKER_11: But the spot is called the lobster pound.
42:37
SPEAKER_11: They literally had the lobster pods out back, and the water was being almost taken out of the bay.
42:43
SPEAKER_11: Well, the water was being taken out of the bay to house the and being flushed into the pods to house the lobster inside, and then they boil them in the same water from the mech.
42:54
SPEAKER_16: See, I might I'll try something like that because that's like an experience type.
42:57
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
42:59
SPEAKER_15: Yeah, yeah.
43:00
SPEAKER_15: Man, I'm hungry again.
43:01
SPEAKER_15: I haven't so many, right?
43:04
SPEAKER_14: I'll try not to eat so like eat anymore.
43:07
SPEAKER_15: Not even late.
43:08
SPEAKER_15: I just didn't want to eat.
43:10
SPEAKER_11: But but anyway, I'm gonna get another seafood boy.
43:12
SPEAKER_11: So, Hugh, I got a question for you.
43:13
SPEAKER_11: Sure.
43:13
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, and I'm not trying to start no trouble.
43:15
SPEAKER_11: Over under zero championships for LeBron in Philly.
43:18
SPEAKER_11: Here we go.
43:18
SPEAKER_11: Here we go.
43:19
SPEAKER_15: I don't know.
43:19
SPEAKER_15: Here we go.
43:20
SPEAKER_11: Over under.
43:21
SPEAKER_11: Over under.
43:22
SPEAKER_11: Oh that means they don't make the playoffs if you go under.
43:27
SPEAKER_11: I'm sure they'll make the playoffs.
43:29
SPEAKER_11: All right.
43:29
SPEAKER_16: So you they got they that's even they got a squad.
43:34
SPEAKER_14: I would not be surprised if they're gonna have at least two or three all-star starters.
43:40
SPEAKER_11: They're all healthy.
43:41
SPEAKER_11: You know what?
43:42
SPEAKER_11: You know what?
43:42
SPEAKER_11: Here's the thing.
43:43
SPEAKER_11: Here's the thing, ooh.
43:44
SPEAKER_11: And nobody made one to say it.
43:46
SPEAKER_11: They do have a squad, and I'm not gonna deny that.
43:48
SPEAKER_11: But they got some bitch ass dudes on their team, kind of.
43:52
SPEAKER_11: I mean, and beat is questionable.
43:54
SPEAKER_11: Indeed, yeah.
43:55
SPEAKER_11: And and and and and I mean, Maxi.
43:57
SPEAKER_14: Yo, that nigga was eating a chili cheeseburger.
44:00
SPEAKER_14: He's getting his ass massaged on the side on the court side while his he's nursing his fucking leg.
44:06
SPEAKER_11: And Jalen Brown, I still don't understand.
44:08
SPEAKER_11: I mean, I knew it.
44:11
SPEAKER_11: I still don't that whole like you're like them smart Negroes, huh?
44:14
SPEAKER_11: No, no, no.
44:18
SPEAKER_11: That whole thing about like uh, and I don't know if that's true or not, but the whole thing how they were in Boston, the whole, you know, he wants to be the man and push, but I feel like it's kind of like either you are or you aren't, you're gonna take that or you're gonna you're not gonna take it.
44:34
SPEAKER_11: And so there's something missing there.
44:35
SPEAKER_11: He's a great player, but there's almost you you that great player just takes it, and then that's you you out of here.
44:41
SPEAKER_11: Like when Tom Brady stepped in for true Drew Bletto, it was over.
44:45
SPEAKER_11: The rest of the team really galvanizes them.
44:48
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, yeah.
44:49
SPEAKER_16: So But I I I I do think the Sixers, would they I mean, they got a they got a squad, but like you said, to me and B Braun, yo, y'all only playing 55 games.
45:00
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, like I'm not top side.
45:02
SPEAKER_16: I don't need you guys in October.
45:03
SPEAKER_16: That's 55 W's right there.
45:05
SPEAKER_16: Oh I mean they they they're gonna put up button.
45:08
SPEAKER_14: Including playoffs, including playoffs.
45:10
SPEAKER_14: Yo, they have a deep squad.
45:12
SPEAKER_14: Nobody talks about their bench either.
45:13
SPEAKER_14: Like their bench, they got a good bench.
45:15
SPEAKER_14: They got DeMar DeRozan, right?
45:16
SPEAKER_14: Didn't they sign him?
45:17
SPEAKER_14: No, no, that's Washington.
45:18
SPEAKER_14: Washington got a squad now.
45:20
SPEAKER_16: Washington signed them?
45:22
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
45:23
SPEAKER_11: Washington got away.
45:24
SPEAKER_11: Wait, wait, no.
45:26
SPEAKER_15: Oh, uh oh, go ahead, go ahead.
45:28
SPEAKER_15: I'm looking at the biggest.
45:29
SPEAKER_11: No, Devonta's looking good.
45:30
SPEAKER_11: Oh, yeah.
45:31
SPEAKER_11: But but I, you know, I think it's one of those, I think it's one of those things where it's so good, it looks so good on paper.
45:39
SPEAKER_11: There's just something about it.
45:40
SPEAKER_11: There's something about it that's throwing me off.
45:42
SPEAKER_11: And it look, I it could be just my little skeptical way about it, but there's something throwing me off about this.
45:49
SPEAKER_11: It seems like it could be like a a bust with this team, honestly.
45:53
SPEAKER_11: You know what it is, no more.
45:55
SPEAKER_16: It feels it feels like it could be like either a boom or like you said, this shit could just blow up.
46:00
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, like there's yeah, there's no almost, there's no like, yo, we had a good season.
46:04
SPEAKER_16: It's like we either have it a great season or this shit's gonna be a disaster.
46:08
SPEAKER_11: Bro, LeBron pops something, and you know, and then uh Jalen's out, and you know when B is gonna be hurt at some point in the season.
46:14
SPEAKER_11: Yes, and they hobbling into the playoffs.
46:17
SPEAKER_11: I'm telling him, yo, don't even come to camp, yo.
46:19
SPEAKER_11: I'll see you in December, yo.
46:20
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
46:24
SPEAKER_16: We get close to all-star breakers, so yeah, like yo, just just chill to them.
46:29
SPEAKER_16: Like, I'm not saying don't practice, right?
46:31
SPEAKER_16: Like, yo, can you please show up to practice?
46:33
SPEAKER_16: But I'm not playing you in like you play once a week at this point, in this juncture of your career.
46:38
SPEAKER_15: Chris Middleton.
46:39
SPEAKER_14: They got Chris Middleton, Anthony Davis, Trey Young, yeah, the banster, DeAndre Ayton signed with them, which is he'll you'll be a good man.
46:49
SPEAKER_14: Aiden signed with them?
46:51
SPEAKER_16: That's the thing about the NBA, yo.
46:52
SPEAKER_16: These casts just be like Oh, oh yeah.
46:55
SPEAKER_16: You don't even hear about some of these moves.
46:57
SPEAKER_16: Like, who the hell are you doing?
46:59
SPEAKER_16: It's like who's gonna give me four million?
47:01
SPEAKER_16: Who's gonna give you a little bit more?
47:02
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, like who's like some of these guys, unless you were superstar, everyone else should just like trying to find your niche at that point.
47:10
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, you know, I thought they signed somebody else.
47:13
SPEAKER_16: Like they got Trey Young, they got uh Anthony Davis.
47:17
SPEAKER_14: Um yeah, I thought they signed, they signed somebody.
47:20
SPEAKER_14: I saw, oh, Julia's I don't even know they see him.
47:22
SPEAKER_14: I'm looking at their Cam Whitmore, but he's been on that team, I think, right?
47:27
SPEAKER_15: Cam Whitmore.
47:27
SPEAKER_14: He's good.
47:28
SPEAKER_16: Cam Whitmore, I thought he was on the Nets.
47:30
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, he's he's on the Wizards now.
47:32
SPEAKER_16: He's on the Wizards now?
47:34
SPEAKER_14: I guess so.
47:35
SPEAKER_14: The Wizards are going to be terrible.
47:36
SPEAKER_14: Here, this Washington was maybe looking at oh, they look they're looking to add DeMar DeRozan.
47:41
SPEAKER_14: Oh, okay.
47:42
SPEAKER_14: That'd be a good pickup.
47:43
SPEAKER_16: That'd be a nice yo, I would I would love that for them.
47:45
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, because he's still a solid player.
47:47
SPEAKER_14: Oh, yeah.
47:48
SPEAKER_14: He's good.
47:48
SPEAKER_14: He's a bucket, man.
47:49
SPEAKER_14: You know, he's a score.
47:50
SPEAKER_14: He scored more points than Steph Curry.
47:52
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, like he's he I ain't asking to do nothing else in life, just score.
47:57
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, and he has a high shooting percentage, too.
47:59
SPEAKER_11: I mean, he shoots, he's efficient.
48:01
SPEAKER_11: Shout out to Damar DeRozan, like a Rip Hamilton type.
48:05
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, he kind of I didn't like the way he sided with Kendrick Lamar and that Drake shit.
48:09
SPEAKER_16: He's from LA.
48:10
SPEAKER_16: What you expect?
48:11
SPEAKER_14: I expect him to side with the Canadian.
48:13
SPEAKER_14: Oh, yeah, that's right.
48:14
SPEAKER_14: He's from Toronto, yeah.
48:15
SPEAKER_14: Oh, he's from Toronto.
48:16
SPEAKER_14: He played in Toronto.
48:18
SPEAKER_11: He didn't do shit for Toronto.
48:20
SPEAKER_11: So good reason.
48:21
SPEAKER_11: Oh, yeah, yeah.
48:22
SPEAKER_11: He he had the they had the Kawhi, they had the Kawhi ship.
48:25
SPEAKER_16: Oh, have you seen the what?
48:29
SPEAKER_16: Oh, the Kawhi thing.
48:30
SPEAKER_16: The Kawaii, it's supposed to be a, you know, like he's supposed to be like having a shell company that paid him and all this stuff.
48:36
SPEAKER_16: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
48:37
SPEAKER_16: Apparently, it's like it's another story drops tonight.
48:40
SPEAKER_16: Pablo Torres is part, like the connect.
48:43
SPEAKER_16: Like, honestly, though, no one cares, right?
48:45
SPEAKER_16: Like, oh, they still told me about that?
48:47
SPEAKER_11: That's like the old tiny gambling thing.
48:49
SPEAKER_11: That shit went goodbye.
48:51
SPEAKER_16: Like, yo, like how long it takes to do an investigation, right?
48:55
SPEAKER_16: Like, you guys are a billion dollar company, right?
48:57
SPEAKER_16: Like, we all know he cheated.
48:59
SPEAKER_16: We all know that Bomber paid someone else under the table.
49:02
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, and it's okay to give him like 30 million.
49:05
SPEAKER_16: Hey, I want to come here for 70.
49:06
SPEAKER_16: Like, all right.
49:08
SPEAKER_16: Honestly, that shit probably happens all the time in the NBA.
49:11
SPEAKER_16: Maybe not to that amount.
49:12
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, but we're gonna give you a marketing deal.
49:14
SPEAKER_11: Local.
49:15
SPEAKER_11: We're gonna give you a marketing deal.
49:17
SPEAKER_11: You don't have to show up, bro.
49:18
SPEAKER_11: Just like just keep playing.
49:20
SPEAKER_11: No, how you get a no-show job for 30 million, you know?
49:26
SPEAKER_16: No publication.
49:28
SPEAKER_16: No, the co the Kawhi company was like planting trees.
49:32
SPEAKER_16: Like that was their whole planting trees.
49:35
SPEAKER_16: Kawhi's like, I don't, I don't even like trees.
49:38
SPEAKER_16: Like, what are you doing?
49:38
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, there's some trees somewhere.
49:40
SPEAKER_11: That's my landscaper.
49:41
SPEAKER_11: He deal with that shit.
49:43
SPEAKER_11: Kawhi gonna do a commercial today.
49:45
SPEAKER_16: No, absolutely not.
49:47
SPEAKER_11: But that's I mean, that's hard that and you see you see um Belichick's in trouble with that NIL shit.
49:53
SPEAKER_11: They got the NIL, the little NIL investigation coming.
49:57
SPEAKER_16: Uh yo, it's honestly, like I said the other day, like it sucks to see Belichick kind of go through this shit at some time.
50:05
SPEAKER_16: Like, like, yo, he's literally the greatest football coach we've seen, right?
50:11
SPEAKER_16: Seven Super Bowl.
50:13
SPEAKER_16: I and now he's in like North Carolina playing football.
50:17
SPEAKER_11: Like, it's like I just figured something out.
50:19
SPEAKER_11: He's the oxymoron of an old rich guy because really he should not be working, chilling, and have you know, go for right, whatever.
50:29
SPEAKER_11: He he's doing the opposite.
50:30
SPEAKER_11: He's working a shit job in North Carolina, fucking grueling hours, lots of pressure.
50:37
SPEAKER_16: Dude, grueling hours, having to depend on 18-year-old kids for my winning.
50:41
SPEAKER_16: Like, yes, why is he doing this to himself?
50:45
SPEAKER_11: What am I doing?
50:45
SPEAKER_16: Like, I I think that's what I'm saying.
50:47
SPEAKER_16: I think it's about Brady.
50:48
SPEAKER_11: I think he's trying to prove something about to Brady and to him, the whole Brady talk.
50:53
SPEAKER_16: Because before Brady and after Brady, yeah, you know, he wasn't able to well what's wrong with hat, like yo, I attach my wagon to Tom Brady.
51:02
SPEAKER_16: He's great.
51:02
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, like yeah, uh it's it's not like I'm not a great coach, but shit, we need great players.
51:08
SPEAKER_16: Like, I I I I'm not winning.
51:10
SPEAKER_11: I agree.
51:11
SPEAKER_11: I agree.
51:11
SPEAKER_11: They was in the trenches and all that.
51:13
SPEAKER_11: So I feel I feel like he should just hang it up.
51:16
SPEAKER_11: There's I mean, after this year, he's he's toast.
51:18
SPEAKER_11: I mean, after this year, he is there's no uh 100%.
51:22
SPEAKER_16: And I'm not even sure he might last the full season.
51:24
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, he might have health issues, you know.
51:27
SPEAKER_16: Like, and it's like yeah, I just I'm surprised he's still with the with the one joint though.
51:31
SPEAKER_11: I'm surprised.
51:32
SPEAKER_11: Oh, the young he's with that 28-year-old.
51:34
SPEAKER_11: Yo, I'm surprised that shit.
51:35
SPEAKER_11: No, she's like 24 or 25.
51:37
SPEAKER_11: She's younger.
51:38
SPEAKER_11: She was like 22.
51:40
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, yo.
51:41
SPEAKER_11: I'm surprised she's I'm surprised they're still like together, honestly.
51:44
SPEAKER_11: Like, I don't know.
51:45
SPEAKER_16: Bro, she's got like mad, they say she's got like mad control in that um program, though.
51:50
SPEAKER_16: Like, yeah.
51:51
SPEAKER_16: Oh, I'm sure she's you know she's like does all the marketing and shit.
51:54
SPEAKER_16: Like she's been in the interviews, all up in the videos, right?
51:59
SPEAKER_16: Like, no, Bill, don't talk about that.
52:01
SPEAKER_16: You know, like I'm Bill Belichick, like I'm the greatest coach ever, and I gotta answer to a 22.
52:05
SPEAKER_16: Like, yeah.
52:06
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
52:07
SPEAKER_03: I I hate seeing that.
52:09
SPEAKER_16: How'd they meet?
52:09
SPEAKER_16: Does it do you know the story about how they met?
52:11
SPEAKER_16: I heard it was on a plane.
52:12
SPEAKER_16: That was the thing.
52:13
SPEAKER_16: They met on a plane, and she's just oh my god, it's Bill Belichick.
52:18
SPEAKER_16: I'm like, why don't you just say he's rich?
52:20
SPEAKER_16: Like, why'd you just say that?
52:23
SPEAKER_16: I can yo Bill Belichick's okay, like he's he's okay with that.
52:27
SPEAKER_11: He's not gonna be but could you imagine though, like for that whole situation, how that is for both of them, like for one, for him and for her, completely two different things, like where he's like, Yeah, come on now.
52:43
SPEAKER_11: It is Tuesday, babe.
52:44
SPEAKER_11: You know, you're gonna read the Tuesdays.
52:45
SPEAKER_11: And she's and she'd be like, God damn it.
52:48
SPEAKER_16: Damn it.
52:49
SPEAKER_16: I thought you were asleep, man.
52:51
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, we don't got no game.
52:52
SPEAKER_16: We don't got no games this week.
52:54
SPEAKER_16: You know, game, yeah.
52:55
SPEAKER_16: I don't want to watch no game films.
52:57
SPEAKER_16: Hey, babe, you want to watch the Super Bowl again?
52:59
SPEAKER_14: You think she uh that chick got a guy on the side?
53:03
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, yeah, I think so.
53:04
SPEAKER_11: I think so.
53:05
SPEAKER_11: Somebody who really somebody who really loves her, somebody who really loves her for real, like in real life, yeah.
53:10
SPEAKER_11: It's uh he really loves her in real life.
53:13
SPEAKER_11: Not what this is.
53:14
SPEAKER_11: They it's probably like a real situation, honestly, behind the scenes where they like really, it's almost like they like engage, but Bill Belichick is like the the the trick.
53:23
SPEAKER_11: He's like the the ploy.
53:24
SPEAKER_11: Let's get you know as much as we can, let's get our down payment on this house, let's figure this out, and then you know, we can live happily as ever after.
53:33
SPEAKER_11: It's almost like remember the uh Indecent proposal where they offered a million dollars for another million dollars, Demi Moore and uh Woody Harrison, yeah.
53:40
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, and he was all crapped out on the on the tables and shit.
53:44
SPEAKER_11: And he said the motherfucker was like, Fuck this, fuck that, and then he's like, Well, I mean, maybe mortgage damn.
53:54
SPEAKER_11: I ain't seen a decent proposal in like a matter of fact, yeah.
53:56
SPEAKER_14: I'm not saying that in forever.
53:58
SPEAKER_11: It's the same thing, it's like casino.
53:59
SPEAKER_11: Remember the pimping casino, it's the same shit.
54:01
SPEAKER_11: Oh, electro diamond, yeah, wedding day.
54:04
SPEAKER_11: She got everything in the no, please.
54:07
SPEAKER_11: It's the same.
54:08
SPEAKER_11: So I feel like this is a similar situation because the way she looks, it seems like she's that type of situation.
54:16
SPEAKER_11: They she's you know, she gotta go awkward.
54:19
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, it's awkward.
54:21
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, she's so like I mean he's just cringy.
54:25
SPEAKER_16: Like, yeah, like yo, it's it's I I don't it I hate I hate seeing it like this, yo.
54:31
SPEAKER_16: There's no way because he's only what seven or eight wins away from all-time NFL record.
54:37
SPEAKER_11: I know, and they did him, they did him like they did him dirty, yo.
54:40
SPEAKER_16: Like, you're gonna tell me the Atlanta Falcons couldn't hire Bill Belichick.
54:44
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
54:45
SPEAKER_11: Just so I can't get my 12 wins.
54:47
SPEAKER_11: Like there's an there's an asshole clause in the NFL, which is kind of funny.
54:52
SPEAKER_11: The same thing with Eli.
54:53
SPEAKER_11: They sat him before he got the all-time starts.
54:57
SPEAKER_11: Yes, they did.
54:57
SPEAKER_11: Yes, they did.
54:58
SPEAKER_11: Because how he got drafted, there's some that that shit resonates.
55:02
SPEAKER_11: It's just like there's always Bill Belichick, he's always never been good with the press.
55:06
SPEAKER_11: It's always never never and that that that trickles down until your moment where you least expect it, where you have the most to gain.
55:15
SPEAKER_11: Where you think you're in control the entire career.
55:17
SPEAKER_11: And they just clip that, they just turn that shit on.
55:19
SPEAKER_11: T.O.
55:20
SPEAKER_11: not good with the press.
55:21
SPEAKER_11: He he's a first ballot all the way around.
55:23
SPEAKER_11: Oh my god.
55:26
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, if TO wasn't first ballot, there shouldn't be a first ballot.
55:30
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
55:31
SPEAKER_16: Like there's there's no way you can now is he an asshole?
55:35
SPEAKER_16: 100%.
55:35
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, yeah.
55:36
SPEAKER_16: There's no way you could tell me that there was five to ten better receivers than the other thing.
55:41
SPEAKER_11: And say, Bill Belichick wasn't first ballot.
55:43
SPEAKER_11: Funny, right?
55:44
SPEAKER_16: Like, how does that happen, Marvel?
55:47
SPEAKER_16: How does the winning is I got seven Super Bowls?
55:50
SPEAKER_16: Seven Super Bowls, and the ones I lost were like lump of the name.
55:55
SPEAKER_16: Like, yeah, it's it's insane.
55:58
SPEAKER_16: It sucks.
55:58
SPEAKER_16: It sucks seeing him like this.
56:00
SPEAKER_16: Speaking of bad coaches, what about Kyle Shanahan?
56:02
SPEAKER_16: You've been following that story?
56:04
SPEAKER_11: Oh, yeah, we got an accident.
56:07
SPEAKER_15: I missed that.
56:08
SPEAKER_11: Well, what I said, oh, it was my fault.
56:10
SPEAKER_11: He said, Oh, yeah.
56:12
SPEAKER_11: Well, okay, so here's what happened.
56:13
SPEAKER_11: Somebody had out, yeah.
56:14
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, okay, Kyle Shanahan is the coach of the 49ers, right?
56:17
SPEAKER_15: Yeah, yeah.
56:17
SPEAKER_16: That's your team.
56:18
SPEAKER_16: Great coach.
56:19
SPEAKER_16: And he um got in an accident, I want to say on the 11th of July, but it just came out like the 20th or the 20th, like two, three weeks later.
56:29
SPEAKER_16: Now he got like a concussion, 40 stitches, and like he got messed up, basically.
56:33
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, plastic surgery and all his face and stuff.
56:35
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, yeah.
56:36
SPEAKER_11: But there's no like why would you hide that for two weeks?
56:41
SPEAKER_11: And it was a 21-year-old girl driving on the other side and had a head on.
56:45
SPEAKER_16: And apparently he says he dropped his phone, yeah, and then you know, he ducked down, picked it up.
56:50
SPEAKER_16: I mean, like, yo, like I said.
56:52
SPEAKER_16: Sound like a blowjob to me.
56:55
SPEAKER_16: Like, what, like, what, yo, like yo, uh two weeks, you don't report.
57:00
SPEAKER_16: It could have been a simple, yo, he got to an accident, yo, we're praying for a speedy recovery.
57:04
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, boom.
57:05
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, yeah, they had to clean that up.
57:07
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, they had to clean that up.
57:09
SPEAKER_16: It was either he was creeping or he was, you know, high or something, or doing both.
57:15
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, yeah.
57:16
SPEAKER_11: Because that, yeah, like you said, that that would come out right away.
57:19
SPEAKER_11: Well, look at look at every time Tigers Woods gets into an accident.
57:23
SPEAKER_11: That shit comes out while he's while the body cam footage.
57:26
SPEAKER_11: While the accident's on TikTok, the same day.
57:31
SPEAKER_11: He's like, hold on, I'm I'm calling the president.
57:34
SPEAKER_11: What'd you say?
57:40
SPEAKER_16: Yo, yo, really tried to flex on him.
57:41
SPEAKER_16: Hold on, uh, hold on, talk to the president.
57:43
SPEAKER_11: Can you pull that up real quick?
57:44
SPEAKER_11: What is it?
57:45
SPEAKER_11: When he says, when Tiger Woods gets uh body cam calls the president.
57:49
SPEAKER_11: He says, he goes, hold on.
57:50
SPEAKER_11: Sorry, what'd you say?
57:51
SPEAKER_11: He goes, Oh, I was I was I was talking to the president.
57:55
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, he really tried to that's real that happened.
58:01
SPEAKER_03: Yo, it's super real.
58:03
SPEAKER_12: He really tried to I never saw that.
58:04
SPEAKER_12: Look at the uh yeah, Tiger Woods.
58:06
SPEAKER_12: Oh, was that is that when he got um when he pulled over, yeah.
58:10
SPEAKER_11: The last time he uh it wasn't that long ago, it was maybe a couple months ago.
58:14
SPEAKER_11: And and he walks he walks all the way down the street and he's on the phone, he and the guy's calling him.
58:19
SPEAKER_11: Excuse me, sir.
58:20
SPEAKER_11: Hey, sir, sir, come back.
58:22
SPEAKER_11: He's like, What was that?
58:24
SPEAKER_11: I'm gonna call the president.
58:25
SPEAKER_14: Oh, he's married to a Trump, right?
58:27
SPEAKER_11: Isn't he married to a Trump or something?
58:28
SPEAKER_11: Well, he was dating uh yeah he was dating, yeah.
58:30
SPEAKER_16: He was dating John Don Jr.'s ex, right?
58:33
SPEAKER_16: Or something?
58:34
SPEAKER_16: No, ew.
58:35
SPEAKER_11: Wait, what's his I think so, yeah.
58:37
SPEAKER_11: Well, just look up Tiger Woods uh uh calling the president.
58:43
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, I'm on the phone with the president and he puts the phone in his pocket, like he really tried to flex on dude.
58:53
SPEAKER_16: He was just doing his job, right?
58:56
SPEAKER_16: Here we go.
58:57
SPEAKER_06: Tell me what happened real quick.
58:59
SPEAKER_06: Is it?
58:59
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, I was uh Is that okay?
59:01
SPEAKER_15: Okay, yeah, yeah.
59:02
SPEAKER_06: I have my phone.
59:03
SPEAKER_06: Um look at uh changing stations and next thing I know, boom.
59:09
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
59:10
SPEAKER_06: Are you okay?
59:13
SPEAKER_10: I was getting hurt with turn.
59:16
SPEAKER_10: He didn't see me or anything, just kept coming.
59:18
SPEAKER_10: Are you alright?
59:19
SPEAKER_10: Are you in any pain?
59:21
SPEAKER_10: No back pain, no neck pain, knee, nothing.
59:25
SPEAKER_06: Unfortunately, for the accident, you are at fault.
59:27
SPEAKER_06: Yep, and subsequently you are issued a citation for careless driving resulting in a crash.
59:32
SPEAKER_06: Okay.
59:32
SPEAKER_06: Alright.
59:33
SPEAKER_09: So definitely uh Gideon requests that I respond here to conduct a DUI investigation on you, just to ensure that you're safe to operate the motor video.
59:40
SPEAKER_09: It's on the crack, okay?
59:41
SPEAKER_09: Just like I explained the cemetery.
59:50
SPEAKER_11: I never saw this video.
59:59
SPEAKER_09: Is this the video?
1:00:01
SPEAKER_14: I don't know if you see the video.
1:00:13
SPEAKER_10: Type was body kids.
1:00:19
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, type of phone with the president.
1:00:22
SPEAKER_10: Yeah.
1:00:23
SPEAKER_10: I'm on the phone with the president.
1:00:28
SPEAKER_08: Damn, yeah.
1:00:30
SPEAKER_16: It's like first forty-eight, this bitch.
1:00:34
SPEAKER_16: Hey yo, why they treat that boy like Yeah, here we go.
1:00:45
SPEAKER_16: There you go.
1:00:50
SPEAKER_10: Yeah, I'll just talk to the president.
1:01:00
SPEAKER_03: The way he puts his phone in his back pocket.
1:01:02
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:01:07
SPEAKER_03: That's how you flex on the phone.
1:01:09
SPEAKER_03: He said he goes what?
1:01:16
SPEAKER_14: Like, that's gonna stop them from getting you know, man.
1:01:18
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, look, there's one thing I know about America.
1:01:21
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
1:01:23
SPEAKER_03: He could have been on the president.
1:01:24
SPEAKER_14: I mean, he could have been on the phone with God.
1:01:27
SPEAKER_14: If you black, they still gonna put you.
1:01:31
SPEAKER_16: They really tried to flex him.
1:01:33
SPEAKER_16: I'm on the president.
1:01:35
SPEAKER_14: He's got to put it in the back pocket.
1:01:36
SPEAKER_14: Flex the man.
1:01:38
SPEAKER_14: Yo, this dude, yo, he a real nigga, yo.
1:01:42
SPEAKER_14: Like, I never ever in my life, I always think about this stuff like the way he was brought up.
1:01:49
SPEAKER_14: Like his dad was on the streets, right?
1:01:51
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, his dad was like a real knucklehead.
1:01:53
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, he went to he went to the military, uh, he was like a green beret or something like crazy.
1:01:58
SPEAKER_16: Like, he wasn't serious.
1:02:00
SPEAKER_16: It does not matter, yeah, man.
1:02:02
SPEAKER_14: Oh once from the hood, always from the hood, man.
1:02:04
SPEAKER_14: He is straight hood, alicious.
1:02:07
SPEAKER_14: Does not matter.
1:02:08
SPEAKER_14: Does not matter.
1:02:09
SPEAKER_14: That shit's classic.
1:02:11
SPEAKER_16: I think with Tiger, he just first of all, he's so awkward.
1:02:14
SPEAKER_16: Like, he's just so awkward.
1:02:16
SPEAKER_16: He just he really never found his niche.
1:02:19
SPEAKER_11: I mean, he's a Denny's joint.
1:02:23
SPEAKER_11: Like, come on, like, bro, you're in the height of your career.
1:02:25
SPEAKER_11: You starts in Denny's.
1:02:27
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, like, like, like, yo, come on, bro.
1:02:30
SPEAKER_16: Like, something's off.
1:02:31
SPEAKER_16: Yeah.
1:02:31
SPEAKER_16: He just he just never really caught on, man.
1:02:34
SPEAKER_16: But damn, man.
1:02:35
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, he's on the phone with the president.
1:02:37
SPEAKER_16: Well, the president, he was on the phone with the president.
1:02:39
SPEAKER_16: Yo, he he really expected him to be like, oh shit, the president.
1:02:42
SPEAKER_16: All right, yo, let him go, yo.
1:02:44
SPEAKER_16: And to be honest, if that accident would have happened at nighttime and nobody was around, oh yeah, that probably wouldn't let him go, right?
1:02:51
SPEAKER_11: Because he was basically in his, he was almost like in his drive.
1:02:54
SPEAKER_11: I mean, he was in the private drive in his neighborhood.
1:02:57
SPEAKER_11: So that was like the that was the hush-hush police, right?
1:03:01
SPEAKER_11: Like, exactly.
1:03:02
SPEAKER_11: This wasn't this wasn't Bay County cops.
1:03:04
SPEAKER_16: He was yeah, like had this been some regular beat cops, his ass would have been gone.
1:03:11
SPEAKER_16: Oh man.
1:03:12
SPEAKER_16: You're on the phone with the president, yo.
1:03:13
SPEAKER_16: Don't talk to me right now.
1:03:15
SPEAKER_16: On the phone with the president.
1:03:17
SPEAKER_16: What did the president say, Tiger?
1:03:19
SPEAKER_16: Oh, he wasn't there.
1:03:21
SPEAKER_16: He walked down the street.
1:03:23
SPEAKER_16: Sir, sir.
1:03:25
SPEAKER_16: What's happening in politics?
1:03:26
SPEAKER_16: I miss back home.
1:03:27
SPEAKER_16: Anything popping in DC?
1:03:29
SPEAKER_11: No, no.
1:03:30
SPEAKER_11: I mean, just the correspondence dinner was kind of, I mean, you know, because they gave the awards, the awards to all the journalists that hate Trump, so it was kind of funny because he had too watched the kill Wolf Blitzer.
1:03:42
SPEAKER_14: You saw that when Wolf Blitzer was announced, heard their incredible reporting on Trump's fraud and expose on the Epstein files, exposing child pedophiles, including the president.
1:03:56
SPEAKER_14: And the president's right there?
1:03:57
SPEAKER_03: He didn't say he was there when they said he was doing it.
1:04:00
SPEAKER_03: Yeah, oh yeah.
1:04:00
SPEAKER_03: He was like a whole like yeah, yeah.
1:04:04
SPEAKER_11: He was doing this on the side, like and then they then they went and shook then they went and shook his hand after they got their award.
1:04:12
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, it was a whole yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:04:15
SPEAKER_14: He hates that shit.
1:04:16
SPEAKER_14: That that's one of those things.
1:04:17
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, the correspondence dinner should not be a thing.
1:04:20
SPEAKER_14: That just shows you that we are all friends in a way.
1:04:24
SPEAKER_14: Like we're all right, like the media and the government work together in a sense.
1:04:28
SPEAKER_14: And that's not the way it's supposed to be.
1:04:30
SPEAKER_14: That that dinner should not exist in in a democracy.
1:04:33
SPEAKER_14: It's crazy.
1:04:34
SPEAKER_14: Well, how how long?
1:04:35
SPEAKER_16: It's been going on forever, right?
1:04:36
SPEAKER_16: That dinner's gotta be like 60, 70 years, right?
1:04:39
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:04:39
SPEAKER_16: At least, yeah.
1:04:40
SPEAKER_15: Yeah.
1:04:41
SPEAKER_14: I think they should do a roast.
1:04:42
SPEAKER_14: I mean, like, I think it's funny to do a roast, but to have journalists involved and give them awards and say all this shit.
1:04:49
SPEAKER_11: Like Obama has the best roast of Trump, though, at that uh at his spot, etc.
1:04:54
SPEAKER_11: When he was like, when he doesn't pull himself away from little John John, we said little John, Meatloaf.
1:05:03
SPEAKER_16: I heard you know, put out I heard that's the I heard that's why really got Trump upset, and that's why he was like, he addressed that.
1:05:12
SPEAKER_11: He said that's not the reason, but it could you know that that he got he was like when little John or Meatloaf, we have to decide which which diner we're gonna go or some shame.
1:05:24
SPEAKER_11: That was the best gross when he did we have Donald Trump here.
1:05:29
SPEAKER_14: That was in 2011, man.
1:05:31
SPEAKER_14: Damn they got a clip.
1:05:34
SPEAKER_11: 2011.
1:05:35
SPEAKER_14: You want to hear the whole five-minute version or one minute?
1:05:37
SPEAKER_14: No, this is gonna give my one minute, yeah.
1:05:39
SPEAKER_00: Donald Trump is here tonight.
1:05:42
SPEAKER_00: Now I know that he's taking some flack lately.
1:05:46
SPEAKER_00: But no one is happy, no one is prouder to put this birth certificate matter to rest than the Donald.
1:05:52
SPEAKER_00: And that's because he can finally get back to focusing on the issues that matter.
1:07:32
SPEAKER_03: The men's cooking teeth.
1:07:35
SPEAKER_03: You didn't fight you fighting little Johnny.
1:07:46
SPEAKER_14: Shout out to Barack.
1:07:50
SPEAKER_11: I've seen that so many times, and that shit is still hilarious.
1:07:53
SPEAKER_16: Bro, Trump was seething, yo.
1:07:55
SPEAKER_16: Like, you could just see him, like, man, I tell you what, man.
1:07:59
SPEAKER_16: Yo, that was about to be the source awards in there, yo.
1:08:04
SPEAKER_14: That was a great run, man.
1:08:05
SPEAKER_14: 2008 to 2016, man.
1:08:08
SPEAKER_14: Those are some good times.
1:08:09
SPEAKER_14: Oh.
1:08:10
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, man.
1:08:10
SPEAKER_14: What a time.
1:08:11
SPEAKER_14: Good times now, too, bro.
1:08:12
SPEAKER_14: Good times now, too.
1:08:14
SPEAKER_02: I mean, y'all, yeah.
1:08:15
SPEAKER_16: We're just happy.
1:08:16
SPEAKER_16: I mean, it's it's it's some interesting times.
1:08:18
SPEAKER_16: Oh, what oh, did you guys see the uh Lindsey Graham uh funeral?
1:08:22
SPEAKER_16: Okay, babe.
1:08:23
SPEAKER_16: No.
1:08:24
SPEAKER_15: I don't care about that.
1:08:27
SPEAKER_11: I saw Net uh uh Bimi and uh and uh uh uh uh Ukrainian president were there uh talking about yes.
1:08:35
SPEAKER_11: I saw the Ukrainian president.
1:08:37
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, yeah.
1:08:38
SPEAKER_16: Baby was okay.
1:08:39
SPEAKER_16: Uh-huh.
1:08:40
SPEAKER_16: It was um, yeah, it was um I don't know.
1:08:44
SPEAKER_16: I that's Washington now seems pretty chill and mellow, right?
1:08:47
SPEAKER_11: Like it's just seeming like well is Mitch McConnell alive.
1:08:50
SPEAKER_11: Can we confirm that?
1:08:52
SPEAKER_11: Oh, wait, wait, wait.
1:08:54
SPEAKER_11: The governor of uh the state's more important while it was like, please, or are the people need to see a video or something?
1:09:04
SPEAKER_14: We saw the picture, yo.
1:09:05
SPEAKER_14: It was propped up like weekend at Bernie's show.
1:09:07
SPEAKER_14: They have to video.
1:09:10
SPEAKER_14: This is a test for when Trump dies and they're gonna hide that shit.
1:09:14
SPEAKER_14: Because he's about yo, he's got a few days left at the most.
1:09:17
SPEAKER_14: I don't know what he's on.
1:09:18
SPEAKER_14: I don't even know.
1:09:18
SPEAKER_14: This motherfucker.
1:09:19
SPEAKER_14: Is Mitch McConnell alive though?
1:09:21
SPEAKER_14: Do you think I mean this is kind of weird.
1:09:22
SPEAKER_11: He's on six they said 63 days he's been missing.
1:09:25
SPEAKER_11: 63 days.
1:09:26
SPEAKER_14: He's on life support or he's dead already.
1:09:29
SPEAKER_11: 63 days he's been missing from Congress.
1:09:31
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, they said this nigga had a heart attack, yo.
1:09:33
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
1:09:34
SPEAKER_14: He could barely walk before him having a heart attack.
1:09:38
SPEAKER_16: He was he was having issues like beforehand, though.
1:09:40
SPEAKER_16: Like 20 minutes.
1:09:41
SPEAKER_11: Well, he passed out.
1:09:41
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, well, he passed out recently.
1:09:43
SPEAKER_11: But they but they said um there was some somebody supposedly had a 17-minute conversation with him, and they're like, Well, how come he can't do a quick one-minute, 90-second hello?
1:09:54
SPEAKER_14: You know, there's a button on your phone that says picture, video.
1:09:59
SPEAKER_14: You do video, film him real quick, waving, saying something.
1:10:04
SPEAKER_14: They say hi, hi kids.
1:10:06
SPEAKER_16: I'm recuperating, I'm in the hospital.
1:10:08
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, I'm thinking about you guys.
1:10:10
SPEAKER_16: God bless America.
1:10:11
SPEAKER_16: It could be real simple.
1:10:12
SPEAKER_11: I know I've been gone 63 days, but I'm gonna be back soon.
1:10:16
SPEAKER_11: 63 days.
1:10:17
SPEAKER_11: That's fucking crazy.
1:10:18
SPEAKER_15: They just playing in our face.
1:10:20
SPEAKER_11: They just playing in our face.
1:10:21
SPEAKER_11: No one saw nothing.
1:10:23
SPEAKER_16: I know, like, golly, man.
1:10:25
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, and none of his none of his boys called and went over there playing, yo, you are.
1:10:30
SPEAKER_16: Exactly.
1:10:30
SPEAKER_11: His family, nobody, nobody's at the hospital, supporters, nobody's like reporting on this.
1:10:37
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, that bitch ass governor of uh Kentucky is talking about.
1:10:40
SPEAKER_14: We need to say he can do something about this if you're gonna be able to do that.
1:10:43
SPEAKER_14: He needs to fly down there and be like, where is he at?
1:10:45
SPEAKER_14: Like walk through them fucking hallways and find do something real.
1:10:48
SPEAKER_14: You know what I mean?
1:10:49
SPEAKER_14: Like these people.
1:10:50
SPEAKER_14: They should send Kaisen.
1:10:51
SPEAKER_11: I mean, they send they should send uh iShow speed or something.
1:10:54
SPEAKER_11: I show speed in there, live stream that shit.
1:10:59
SPEAKER_11: Aiden Ross.
1:11:01
SPEAKER_11: Ada Ross, yeah.
1:11:02
SPEAKER_11: Aiden Ross.
1:11:03
SPEAKER_11: He was streams before Aiden Ross with streams.
1:11:06
SPEAKER_11: Oh my god.
1:11:07
SPEAKER_14: Yo, wait, did any of you watch the YG um game versus?
1:11:12
SPEAKER_11: You know what?
1:11:13
SPEAKER_11: You know what?
1:11:13
SPEAKER_11: I'm gonna tell you something.
1:11:14
SPEAKER_11: I'm gonna tell you something, honestly.
1:11:15
SPEAKER_11: And I'm very this is concerning.
1:11:17
SPEAKER_11: I did watch it, but then I didn't watch it actually.
1:11:21
SPEAKER_11: I saw uh I was gonna watch it.
1:11:23
SPEAKER_11: I was gonna watch it, and then I saw Game drink a bottle of Don Julio to the head.
1:11:28
SPEAKER_11: And I'm like, and I saw him do this at Drink Champs bottle after bottle.
1:11:32
SPEAKER_11: He does that a lot, right?
1:11:33
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, yeah.
1:11:33
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, and I'm thinking I don't want to support this.
1:11:35
SPEAKER_11: So I was gonna watch it, and then I didn't watch it after that clip.
1:11:38
SPEAKER_14: I'm not a big drinker, but also I know that's gotta hurt.
1:11:41
SPEAKER_14: If he's actually doing he might, it might be water, you never know.
1:11:43
SPEAKER_14: It might be water at this time.
1:11:44
SPEAKER_14: It might all be for show.
1:11:46
SPEAKER_14: You know he's a liar.
1:11:47
SPEAKER_11: Well, back in the day it was for real, because I've seen him walked around.
1:11:50
SPEAKER_11: Well, at Drake Champs, he was taking the fucking thing off.
1:11:53
SPEAKER_11: Okay, maybe did it once.
1:11:55
SPEAKER_14: I don't know.
1:11:56
SPEAKER_14: But you know, this motherfucker's known to lie.
1:11:57
SPEAKER_14: He's talking about fucking Maya.
1:11:58
SPEAKER_11: He he made up a whole story about him dating Maya that to this day that she's just like Well, he did One Blood as I heard he did One Blood as his second song, which means that he was fearful of YG.
1:12:09
SPEAKER_11: Because why would you do One Blood as your second song?
1:12:12
SPEAKER_11: That's a damn thing.
1:12:13
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, I mean, that's what I'm saying, but your second song?
1:12:16
SPEAKER_11: I mean, you see, you gotta kind of play it out a little bit.
1:12:19
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, because YG is a big blood, they're all big blood, so I heard it was like a big, you know, a big thing.
1:12:25
SPEAKER_14: Clock, big blood clock.
1:12:27
SPEAKER_11: So you would think you would save that for the crescent, you know, crescendo at the end, like one blood.
1:12:33
SPEAKER_16: One blood, bro.
1:12:34
SPEAKER_11: But I heard I heard YG.
1:12:35
SPEAKER_11: People were saying YG one, though.
1:12:37
SPEAKER_11: I heard I was hearing.
1:12:38
SPEAKER_16: Well, you have more party or tracks.
1:12:41
SPEAKER_14: I don't know any, I know a few YG songs, but I'm not a fan.
1:12:45
SPEAKER_14: I do like that new record he got, the Hollywood record, but that's about it.
1:12:48
SPEAKER_14: I'm not like even the songs you did with Drake are don't don't be hitting to me like that.
1:12:52
SPEAKER_11: But he don't fuck with Draco, though.
1:12:53
SPEAKER_11: He don't fuck with Draco.
1:12:55
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, because Draco's dead.
1:12:56
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, he don't fuck with no, but that was single shit.
1:12:58
SPEAKER_11: He killed him, right?
1:12:59
SPEAKER_14: Or they're allegedly dead.
1:13:01
SPEAKER_15: Allegedly.
1:13:02
SPEAKER_14: Allegedly.
1:13:03
SPEAKER_14: Yeah.
1:13:04
SPEAKER_14: Allegedly.
1:13:04
SPEAKER_14: You guys have following that David case with the little girl that he chopped up.
1:13:07
SPEAKER_14: Nah, that shit is crazy, man.
1:13:10
SPEAKER_11: That's sick.
1:13:11
SPEAKER_11: That's like there's no like that sign still deliver.
1:13:15
SPEAKER_11: That shit is already packaged and like she was like 13, right?
1:13:18
SPEAKER_11: Or something crazy?
1:13:19
SPEAKER_11: Four 14.
1:13:19
SPEAKER_11: But we'll just we'll just wait for the guilty plea.
1:13:21
SPEAKER_11: I mean, there's no like it's guilty.
1:13:24
SPEAKER_11: Well, yeah.
1:13:27
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:13:28
unknown: Yeah.
1:13:28
SPEAKER_11: I mean, because of his his his celebrity, may save him, possibly, but I think he's very likely based on the way this was done.
1:13:39
SPEAKER_11: I think that's guilty.
1:13:40
SPEAKER_11: Like she left her body was in a truck.
1:13:42
SPEAKER_11: But her parents signed her parents signed off on a uh her parents signed off on a um a travel waiver for her to go see him because she had to get signed off to travel as a child, because when she was like 13.
1:13:54
SPEAKER_14: So I mean, but you can't like people are trying to say, well, it's the parents' fault for letting her be with the motherfucker.
1:14:00
SPEAKER_14: No, you didn't.
1:14:00
SPEAKER_14: I don't think that the parents partially partially it is.
1:14:04
SPEAKER_16: The same thing with the R.
1:14:05
SPEAKER_16: Kelly thing.
1:14:06
SPEAKER_16: A lot of those parents set those kids up.
1:14:09
SPEAKER_16: They set them up, they sold their souls for their kids.
1:14:12
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, that's not right.
1:14:13
SPEAKER_14: I mean, I I'm sure there was, I don't know, money exchanged or whatever, but she was about to out him and all that stuff, and that's why this all happened, apparently.
1:14:19
SPEAKER_14: I have something for y'all.
1:14:20
SPEAKER_14: So we talked about this on the podcast last night, Drew and I, the sneaker pod.
1:14:24
SPEAKER_14: I don't know if you saw the clip that came out.
1:14:26
SPEAKER_14: So there was this there's this little viral clip about these guys, these white guys who came up with a slang word for like because they can't say the N word, right?
1:14:35
SPEAKER_14: So they came up with, you know, we go we call each ourselves vanilla, and then you know, with manila.
1:14:40
SPEAKER_14: Did you see this clip?
1:14:41
SPEAKER_14: Have you seen this shit?
1:14:42
SPEAKER_16: Okay, it is I would watch either.
1:14:45
SPEAKER_14: It's not yours.
1:14:47
SPEAKER_14: I want to get serious for a second.
1:14:48
SPEAKER_14: I told I told Drew.
1:14:50
SPEAKER_14: Drew, Drew has been a good sport with a lot of the you know, like me calling out white people for their fuckery or their stupid, you know, their you know, their cannibalism and all this other shit that they do.
1:15:01
SPEAKER_14: So I have to find it real quick.
1:15:03
SPEAKER_14: Oh, yeah, here it is, here it is.
1:15:05
SPEAKER_14: Um, is this the whole oh this is my version?
1:15:08
SPEAKER_14: Okay, I don't have it here.
1:15:10
SPEAKER_14: Where the fuck is it?
1:15:11
SPEAKER_14: Where the fuck is it?
1:15:12
SPEAKER_14: I'm gonna play the clip for you guys.
1:15:14
SPEAKER_14: I downloaded it.
1:15:15
SPEAKER_14: Um and I want to get like what you think of like this, because I know my feelings on it.
1:15:22
SPEAKER_14: But I want to see what you guys think.
1:15:25
SPEAKER_14: Okay, what's this?
1:15:26
SPEAKER_14: Y'all are black.
1:15:28
SPEAKER_14: Let's see what the blacks think of this.
1:15:30
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, I want to see what the blacks think of this.
1:15:32
SPEAKER_14: We appreciate it.
1:15:33
SPEAKER_14: Thank you guys.
1:15:33
SPEAKER_14: No, I appreciate it.
1:15:34
SPEAKER_14: I appreciate the feedback.
1:15:35
SPEAKER_14: It's hard to get black people to talk.
1:15:37
SPEAKER_14: What do you what are you playing?
1:15:38
SPEAKER_14: I'm about to play this clip of these gentlemen coming up with a slang word for that they want to use to talk about um Negroes.
1:15:51
SPEAKER_14: There he is.
1:15:52
SPEAKER_14: Can you see that?
1:15:53
SPEAKER_14: You see that.
1:15:56
SPEAKER_14: Well, listen this.
1:15:57
SPEAKER_04: It hurts my feelings how my black friends get their own special word.
1:16:00
SPEAKER_04: They get to call each other.
1:16:01
SPEAKER_04: So I'm starting something for us white boys.
1:16:04
SPEAKER_04: From now on, I'm calling y'all vanillas.
1:16:07
SPEAKER_01: It works for everything.
1:16:08
SPEAKER_01: What's up, manila?
1:16:09
SPEAKER_01: This Nilla, Nilla, please.
1:16:11
SPEAKER_01: Nilla, you might be on to something.
1:16:16
SPEAKER_01: I like it.
1:16:16
SPEAKER_01: I mean, nah, hold up, fam.
1:16:18
SPEAKER_01: You can't remix that.
1:16:19
SPEAKER_01: Y'all already got a word.
1:16:20
SPEAKER_01: Crackers, honkies, the uh white is the wall, y'all.
1:16:26
SPEAKER_07: Manila, don't listen to that guy.
1:16:28
SPEAKER_07: We he he doesn't know he doesn't know the culture.
1:16:31
SPEAKER_07: He doesn't understand what it's like to be a Nila.
1:16:36
SPEAKER_07: I mean, seriously, stay strong, Manila Brothers.
1:16:41
SPEAKER_07: Most ridiculous thing ever.
1:16:44
SPEAKER_07: Let's do it.
1:16:45
SPEAKER_07: What up, Manila?
1:16:48
SPEAKER_07: Big ass Nilla.
1:16:54
SPEAKER_08: Let's go.
1:16:56
SPEAKER_07: Manila, please.
1:16:58
SPEAKER_14: So, so here's the thing.
1:17:01
SPEAKER_14: All right, go ahead.
1:17:02
SPEAKER_14: I'll let you all spit.
1:17:03
SPEAKER_14: Go ahead.
1:17:04
SPEAKER_11: So the refinery with what we know.
1:17:10
SPEAKER_11: Right, right.
1:17:16
SPEAKER_11: Oh, no, yeah.
1:17:17
SPEAKER_03: I don't know.
1:17:20
SPEAKER_14: I'll remove the sta.
1:17:21
SPEAKER_14: I think I have to remove it.
1:17:22
SPEAKER_14: Go ahead.
1:17:22
SPEAKER_14: Is that better?
1:17:23
SPEAKER_14: Is it God?
1:17:24
SPEAKER_14: Yeah.
1:17:24
SPEAKER_14: I had to remove it, sorry.
1:17:25
SPEAKER_11: Oh, so so the so the use of the word nila, right?
1:17:29
SPEAKER_11: So here's always the thing in context.
1:17:33
SPEAKER_11: You can they're making a joke.
1:17:35
SPEAKER_11: I get they're making a joke, right?
1:17:37
SPEAKER_11: Funny, funny.
1:17:38
SPEAKER_11: But the context in which they're using it is how black people call themselves, right?
1:17:43
SPEAKER_11: The the N I G G A, right?
1:17:45
SPEAKER_11: Because I really don't use that word much, but but that's but they're using it in that context.
1:17:50
SPEAKER_11: So it's really not a reference to we have a word we'll call ourselves, it's a way exactly the uh the word.
1:17:59
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, and I think funny about like if they were saying it like we say it, right?
1:18:04
SPEAKER_14: Quote unquote.
1:18:05
SPEAKER_14: And they do say it like we say it.
1:18:06
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, yeah.
1:18:06
SPEAKER_14: But the the thing was, remember many summers ago, over 20 years ago, when Snoop was saying for shizzle my nizzle, remember every white kid was my nizzle, my and then he I think he I believe he came out and made a statement like this ain't for you, white people.
1:18:21
SPEAKER_14: Don't say that.
1:18:22
SPEAKER_14: And people stopped after a while.
1:18:24
SPEAKER_14: But I I'm fascinated with why like white guys like this, they definitely all voted for Trump or some shit, where they think it's okay.
1:18:33
SPEAKER_14: Because if you're saying my nil, my manila, right?
1:18:35
SPEAKER_14: And then you're saying like bitch ass no, all this stuff.
1:18:38
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:18:38
SPEAKER_14: This is all again, they all you you replace one a couple couple of letters with with the G nigga, this and that.
1:18:45
SPEAKER_14: I'll say it.
1:18:46
SPEAKER_14: I always say the word.
1:18:46
SPEAKER_14: I'm trying to get out of my vocabulary, but you know what?
1:18:49
SPEAKER_14: Whatever.
1:18:50
SPEAKER_14: This shit pisses me off because and I told Drew this, I was like, what compelled you to send that in a group chat full of black people?
1:18:59
SPEAKER_14: Like, and then that's what I asked him, and he was like, Oh, I don't know.
1:19:02
SPEAKER_14: It's funny.
1:19:03
SPEAKER_14: And I'm like, funny to you and your white friends, because the thing is, is when white people do this shit, right?
1:19:09
SPEAKER_14: You're saying you're you're all sitting there know what it means.
1:19:12
SPEAKER_14: And then I bet you if you said that to your white group chat, somebody's gonna fly a real n-word out there, yeah.
1:19:19
SPEAKER_14: Fuck them.
1:19:20
SPEAKER_14: That shit is funny.
1:19:20
SPEAKER_14: I'm gonna start using Nilla instead so I can say nigga, like I wanna say nigga.
1:19:23
SPEAKER_14: I'm like, you people just want to say nigga so fucking.
1:19:26
SPEAKER_11: Well, it's caricature, caricaturism, and it's you know, it's like uh uh what was that?
1:19:30
SPEAKER_11: I saw the um uh Judy Garland, right?
1:19:34
SPEAKER_11: Where she has the old blackface, you know, back when she's a kid, right, performing.
1:19:39
SPEAKER_11: And yeah, you know, it she thinks she's performing.
1:19:44
SPEAKER_11: It's but but it's like you have to get the you have to get the essence, yeah.
1:19:48
SPEAKER_11: You have to get the essence of what you think, you have to act in a way, and so when you you depict someone in a way and it's not uh um flattering, right?
1:19:58
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, because we all e even in the community using it, even though it's considered a tier of uh term of endearment, it's still as you get older and get more sophisticated, it still becomes more of an ick to it using it in a in a way.
1:20:13
SPEAKER_11: So so you kind of grow out of that, right?
1:20:17
SPEAKER_11: So it's like that no one of our ilk would necessarily gravitate towards.
1:20:23
SPEAKER_14: I'm still hip hop and I still kind of you know what I'm saying.
1:20:25
SPEAKER_14: I say it older.
1:20:27
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, yeah, maybe.
1:20:27
SPEAKER_11: But I'll but we don't we don't use it in our I mean when we was high school, I mean, basically every other fucking word probably was like, Yeah, but to me, I try, I try not to say it as much.
1:20:36
SPEAKER_14: Like in a in a circle like this, you know, I'll I'll I'll let a few, but also I'm half black, so I get you know, I'm sort of like in this position where it's like if I say it in front of the wrong person who doesn't know what I am, you know, my half of what I am is or whatever, or um if I'm in a place where you know it makes people feel uncomfortable, I don't say the word.
1:20:56
SPEAKER_14: But I also understand that through hip hop music, through you know, black movies and all that type of stuff, we took back that word.
1:21:06
SPEAKER_14: And also it has different meanings historically from a uh ling uh from a language perspective.
1:21:12
SPEAKER_14: You go to Africa, I think one of the one of the dialects out there, the nigga means king or whatever, right?
1:21:18
SPEAKER_14: So there's a whole bunch of different ways you could look at it, but in America, this is what it means, and black people took it back.
1:21:25
SPEAKER_14: You understand that what it means as a white person, but it fascinates me how these guys, five guys, went and made a piece of content around why they can't say it, and they want to make up a different saying that basically is the same thing, just so they can say these words and they're laughing about it.
1:21:43
SPEAKER_14: And it doesn't make sense to me.
1:21:45
SPEAKER_14: And then my friend, who I had to correct again, because this is the same, like Drew, you Drew, Drew's one of these guys, he just I think he's just a blue, he's he's literally the guy who says, I don't see color and means it in the most sincere, like I'm not racist way, but it kind of is racist because he doesn't understand why not seeing color makes it.
1:22:03
SPEAKER_14: But either way, I have to school him on these things.
1:22:05
SPEAKER_14: Like, don't you know, read the room.
1:22:07
SPEAKER_14: You gotta read the room.
1:22:08
SPEAKER_14: Like, if there's a bunch of niggas on the chat, you don't send the the the you know, let me, you know what I mean?
1:22:14
SPEAKER_14: Like, you're not gonna send that out.
1:22:15
SPEAKER_14: You know what I mean?
1:22:16
SPEAKER_14: Like, that don't make sense.
1:22:16
SPEAKER_14: I told him, like, yeah, I said it on the pod, like, read the room, like it's not it's not smart.
1:22:21
SPEAKER_14: Like, to me, that's why I didn't even called it out, but I'm like, it may be funny.
1:22:24
SPEAKER_14: I thought it was funny, but also it's the last guy got me the most.
1:22:29
SPEAKER_14: That's why I included in the clip I put on the internet.
1:22:31
SPEAKER_14: Okay, he thought it was so funny that he put every variation of my Nila and under he's like bitch.
1:22:37
SPEAKER_16: He was waiting all day to say that.
1:22:38
SPEAKER_14: Oh, he was waiting all day.
1:22:40
SPEAKER_14: He was with that turn with turned back, you know, when he stopped when he stopped filming that TikTok or whatever the fuck, he was like, damn, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga.
1:22:48
SPEAKER_14: Right after that.
1:22:49
SPEAKER_14: Just to turn into Lily White, and and it, and and that's what pissed me off about it because you know that you want to say this word so badly that it it compelled you to sit there and make content around what basically why you can't say the word and why this is an alternative that we all can use.
1:23:06
SPEAKER_14: And it's not, it's disgusting to me.
1:23:08
SPEAKER_14: It kind of and the more I look like I watched the clip a few times, it's super offensive.
1:23:12
SPEAKER_14: And I looked in the comments, these stupid niggas is in the comments saying, Oh, my nil, like the blacks are in the comments saying this shit.
1:23:19
SPEAKER_14: And I'm like, are you all stupid?
1:23:20
SPEAKER_14: They're not gonna be able to do that.
1:23:21
SPEAKER_14: Well, that's what I was gonna say.
1:23:22
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, I was gonna say.
1:23:23
SPEAKER_11: I mean, you know, you know, with a lot of this stuff, which is unfortunate, this is what I mean, you know, won't go down a rabbit hole, but you know, what where I say before is that we don't really have culture, you know, when when we when it's oh we I mean we had a big argument about this because we do have culture.
1:23:39
SPEAKER_11: Because no, it's it's it's it's a manufactured culture because a lot of our culture is to our is is devices to our own demise.
1:23:46
SPEAKER_11: We don't necessarily the culture that so think about like in the 40s and 50s and when we had our own neighbors and things like that, right?
1:23:54
SPEAKER_11: When when when our culture was completely different, it was American culture, the the manifest destiny, the take and you know, the the go and get it, right?
1:24:03
SPEAKER_11: We were a part of that at one point, even though there was a lot of things against us.
1:24:08
SPEAKER_11: However, uh things transition greatly from that, obviously, drugs and violence and you know, poverty and different things, redlining fathers out of the house and things like that.
1:24:20
SPEAKER_11: But ultimately, you know, what happened is everything that was considered our culture, right, is is something that's bastardized by everyone else because we bastardized it ourselves, like chains and you know, clothes and cars and you know, girl, or whatever the fuck that became our culture, right?
1:24:38
SPEAKER_11: The coolest uh person and and what puts our puts our uh uh gives us a seat at the table a lot of times is whatever through music or media, you know, sports or or otherwise.
1:24:51
SPEAKER_11: And the first thing if we some something goes left, right?
1:24:58
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, million dollars, making forty million dollars, fifty million dollars.
1:25:02
SPEAKER_11: I mean, that's an example of an entire culture at the highest level for us, not a business person, right?
1:25:08
SPEAKER_11: But an athlete or an entertainer.
1:25:10
SPEAKER_11: That's where you see controversy or situations or whatever.
1:25:13
SPEAKER_11: It's not somebody filing for bankruptcy or you know, restructuring how we would see like a Trump or this, that, and the other, right?
1:25:19
SPEAKER_11: It's it's like, oh, you just raped this girl, you know, this football player, right?
1:25:23
SPEAKER_11: $100 million contract.
1:25:24
SPEAKER_11: So our culture has not been necessarily something that, in my opinion, has been really culture.
1:25:30
SPEAKER_14: That's not culture.
1:25:31
SPEAKER_14: We've had that discussion before.
1:25:33
SPEAKER_11: But but no, no, but culture, culture is through education, culture is through learned experiences from your parents.
1:25:40
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
1:25:41
SPEAKER_11: Like from we used to have that pass down type of thing instead of instead of and no, no, no, now now we leech off of shit that we see.
1:25:51
SPEAKER_11: We didn't there's nothing that we had from the home from two generations.
1:25:55
SPEAKER_11: What's white culture?
1:25:55
SPEAKER_14: Is there a white culture?
1:25:57
SPEAKER_11: Well, I think there's an implied culture that we see that would say, oh, two parents in the house, uh, a dog and a pig fence, and yeah.
1:26:07
SPEAKER_11: I mean, I just think I just no, but I think that's Asian people that have that.
1:26:10
SPEAKER_14: There's there's Indian people that are.
1:26:13
SPEAKER_11: Well, that's that's more American culture, though.
1:26:15
SPEAKER_14: That's more American.
1:26:17
SPEAKER_11: That's we can't just but but that but that but that's how it I re I remember as a kid thinking like a golden retriever was like a family rich person.
1:26:27
SPEAKER_11: Like, why did I think that, right?
1:26:28
SPEAKER_11: A family dog or whatever, right?
1:26:30
SPEAKER_11: That uh dogs have certain lineage where you think a German shepherd's a protector.
1:26:34
SPEAKER_11: Why do we think that, right?
1:26:36
SPEAKER_11: Police dogs and this so it is a part of the culture.
1:26:38
SPEAKER_11: It is a you can have a you can have a German shepherd as an individual, right?
1:26:42
SPEAKER_11: But the culture in which you see a German shepherd, it can be the most dulcide dog you've ever seen, but you think it's vicious, or a pit bull, right?
1:26:50
SPEAKER_11: Because fighting dogs culture and all that.
1:26:52
SPEAKER_11: But it can be the nicest dog.
1:26:53
SPEAKER_11: We had a pit bull, dog would run up and lick you in your face, so you would never guess.
1:26:57
SPEAKER_11: But if people saw it on the street, they they they get scared.
1:27:00
SPEAKER_11: So there is an implied culture, and our implied culture was unfortunately uh created and sensationalized because what when we were starting to get going with the towns and the businesses and the things that we we were building, that got eliminated.
1:27:15
SPEAKER_11: And then what happened was our access point was entertainment, sports, media.
1:27:19
SPEAKER_11: But we used to have we used to own bus lines, we used to own media companies, we used to cowboy cowboy movies, things like that.
1:27:26
SPEAKER_14: Black people were the first cowboys, white people turned it into entertainment.
1:27:30
SPEAKER_14: Now, according to your logic, that's is is cowboys their culture?
1:27:36
SPEAKER_14: It's not, it's part of the entertainment.
1:27:37
SPEAKER_14: That's not their culture, it's our culture.
1:27:39
SPEAKER_14: But there's no black cowboys because they eliminate to your point.
1:27:42
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, they eliminate it.
1:27:43
SPEAKER_11: But I would say uh but I would say filmmaking, directorial rights and writing, and you know, original screenplays and actors and actresses and all that were not a part of our culture as far as like what we were in that in that scene.
1:27:59
SPEAKER_11: So Hollywood.
1:28:01
SPEAKER_14: We couldn't dictate those to it was so it's just I mean, even today, this like fucking Ryan Kugel is like the biggest director out there, and he's black as fuck.
1:28:12
SPEAKER_16: No, but talking about those are like one-offs though.
1:28:15
SPEAKER_16: Spiking off so think about it like this.
1:28:19
SPEAKER_16: Think about it like this.
1:28:21
SPEAKER_11: I mean, but DJ Chris Nolan is bigger than all of those.
1:28:23
SPEAKER_11: I'll break it down.
1:28:24
SPEAKER_11: I'll break it down.
1:28:25
SPEAKER_11: I'll break it down.
1:28:25
SPEAKER_11: I'll break it down like this.
1:28:26
SPEAKER_11: So so I'll break it down like this.
1:28:28
SPEAKER_11: So, Pew, you've heard of Universal Studios, right?
1:28:31
SPEAKER_11: The the music park.
1:28:33
SPEAKER_11: You've Steven Spielberg gets a piece of every ticket sold from Universal Studios.
1:28:39
SPEAKER_11: No, no, but you're saying okay, but you're talking about Kubler and all that.
1:28:42
SPEAKER_11: You're talking about shit like you that that's part, he makes hundreds of millions of dollars off of licensing all the rides and the likenesses of his movies, E.T., all that Jurassic.
1:28:54
SPEAKER_11: So when we get to that point, then we can start talking about culture and economics.
1:29:00
SPEAKER_14: No, it is films and filmmakers, and nothing about that impact the culture in America.
1:29:08
SPEAKER_11: You don't think do the right thing impact is?
1:29:18
SPEAKER_11: I guarantee you, I guarantee you, I guarantee you, I guarantee you, most people with means will take their kids to either Disney World, Universal Studios, their children multiple times.
1:29:28
SPEAKER_11: Their kids will grow up in these parks, idolize these characters.
1:29:32
SPEAKER_11: Do you understand what I'm saying?
1:29:33
SPEAKER_11: These were created not by us, okay?
1:29:36
SPEAKER_11: Do you understand what I'm saying?
1:29:37
SPEAKER_11: Not by us.
1:29:38
SPEAKER_11: So that culture, but the culture is what we're learning.
1:29:42
SPEAKER_11: No, on a on a on a macro scale is not coming from us.
1:29:46
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, but that's what we that's the dominant culture.
1:29:48
SPEAKER_14: That's white supremacy.
1:29:49
SPEAKER_14: That's all that stuff.
1:29:50
SPEAKER_14: But the fact that a man like Tyler Perry can excel under white supremacy.
1:29:56
SPEAKER_14: A whole series of Medea movies, open up a big ass studio in Georgia in the middle of where slaves used to be.
1:30:04
SPEAKER_14: He bought a plantation and turned it into a black movie studio.
1:30:08
SPEAKER_14: Okay.
1:30:09
SPEAKER_11: Uh-huh.
1:30:09
SPEAKER_14: And you still think that's against all odds of things.
1:30:14
SPEAKER_14: And that's a that's Oprah Winfrey.
1:30:16
SPEAKER_14: And you're saying you're saying these are anomalies, but there's anomalies within the white, like, there's only a handful of people, white or black, that do these things.
1:30:23
SPEAKER_14: The fact that being only a a couple, not even a couple of hundred years removed from slavery, and uh like less than a hundred years removed from Jim Crow, or maybe a hundred years, it's about a hundred years now, almost almost, right?
1:30:37
SPEAKER_14: Less than a hundred, maybe I don't know, whatever.
1:30:38
SPEAKER_14: Less than a hundred years.
1:30:39
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, less than a hundred years of of segregation, Jim Crow, that there's people like Tyler Perry, there's people like like uh Ryan Kugler, there's people like Oprah Winfrey, there's people like your Michael Jordan, your GOAT, LeBron James, the real goat.
1:30:56
SPEAKER_14: But but do you understand?
1:30:57
SPEAKER_11: But but Hugh, do you but do you understand?
1:30:59
SPEAKER_11: Correll is running the biggest fashion house.
1:31:02
SPEAKER_11: Okay, okay, but Hugh, Hugh, Hugh, but do you understand that every all these people that you just named, right, have to fall under an umbrella in which to operate that was not created by anyone that looks like them or their forefathers and whatsoever.
1:31:16
SPEAKER_11: But no, but when you have to operate within those settings, so say I created a business, right?
1:31:21
SPEAKER_11: And I own the business, and then you have to work for my business, and your children have to work for my business, and your grandchildren have to work for my business, and also my children and my grandchildren work for my business.
1:31:34
SPEAKER_11: Who do you think that benefits more?
1:31:36
SPEAKER_14: We don't have the lineage yet because black people are less than a hundred years of freedom.
1:31:43
SPEAKER_14: Let us get there.
1:31:44
SPEAKER_14: I don't think that Tyler Perry.
1:31:45
SPEAKER_11: But before when we had to when we had like when we had less when we had less rights, we had more power, we had more economic power, we had ownership of we owned our.
1:31:56
SPEAKER_11: What do they do?
1:31:56
SPEAKER_11: We owned our what what do you mean the the cities got burned down?
1:31:59
SPEAKER_11: They and we got exactly Tulsa Greenwood.
1:32:02
SPEAKER_11: And and yes, and yes, exactly.
1:32:05
SPEAKER_11: These towns and things got taken, and we also, unfortunately, with politics, we got kind of duped with social welfare programs, honestly.
1:32:13
SPEAKER_14: I understand that, and I totally agree.
1:32:15
SPEAKER_14: But this is the problem here is that your the the viewpoint that you have kind of eliminates the fact that there are people who beat the odds and excelled above and beyond, where yes, the only reason Nike is still in business is because Jordan and LeBron are such icons, or all their black athletes are such icons.
1:32:33
SPEAKER_14: They're the only reason Nike is in the business.
1:32:35
SPEAKER_11: But do you know how they look at you know how they look at that is another one's coming off conveyor belt next year.
1:32:40
SPEAKER_11: Okay, but I mean, but is that that but that but that the up we have to operate within the system?
1:32:45
SPEAKER_11: But what did Steph Curry just do this year?
1:32:47
SPEAKER_14: What did Steph Curry do this year?
1:32:49
SPEAKER_14: 10 billion dollars.
1:32:51
SPEAKER_14: Was it how much it was 10 billion?
1:32:52
SPEAKER_11: With a Chinese company, I don't know, it was not 10 billion, it was a lot of money with the with a Chinese company.
1:32:56
SPEAKER_11: And it you know what Chinese companies are doing in Africa right now?
1:33:00
SPEAKER_11: What does that have to do with Steph Curry and do we get to the white people are selling off all our shit to fucking Saudi Arabia and all this shit?
1:33:08
SPEAKER_14: Is that is that makes white culture any bet like any better?
1:33:12
SPEAKER_12: Like what the fuck are you talking about?
1:33:13
SPEAKER_11: But what I'm saying is at what okay, at what point do you want to have the creation of the world that you're in be created by someone that looks like you or from where you came from?
1:33:23
SPEAKER_11: Do you want to have that happen or do you not want to have that happen?
1:33:25
SPEAKER_11: There's two choices to that.
1:33:27
SPEAKER_11: We can create the system the and and here's the thing with everybody talks about, you know, I and I'm not one of like, you know, trying to make excuses and things like that, right?
1:33:36
SPEAKER_11: We're here now and we've come a long way.
1:33:38
SPEAKER_11: I acknowledge that.
1:33:39
SPEAKER_11: But at the same time, we also have to acknowledge that we've come a long way, and still the systems in which we operate are not created by us.
1:33:48
SPEAKER_11: It's it's not to hire an executive that's a minority in a Fortune 500 company is a win, right?
1:33:55
SPEAKER_11: That's a huge, that's a that's a splash, that's a story.
1:33:59
SPEAKER_11: The to hire a black coach at a Notre Dame, that's a story.
1:34:02
SPEAKER_11: But think about the institution in which that these institutions are created that are you have to go there and be one of can I be the one of the first?
1:34:12
SPEAKER_11: Come on.
1:34:14
SPEAKER_11: Your soul is like yes, you don't understand.
1:34:16
SPEAKER_11: Yes, it does it you have no.
1:34:18
SPEAKER_11: I understand that, but the fact that's the actual hierarchy.
1:34:21
SPEAKER_11: Like why would you pop on the wheel?
1:34:24
SPEAKER_15: I mean, that's the way that's why would you want one for your kids?
1:34:26
SPEAKER_11: If everybody says pull yourself up by the bootstraps, you've heard that.
1:34:29
SPEAKER_11: No, it's not about pull, but it's not about pull yourself up by the bootstraps.
1:34:32
SPEAKER_14: No, it is.
1:34:33
SPEAKER_14: You have to understand after after these people get their token roles in these universities or whatever, the next level is okay, let's take it to the HSBCU.
1:34:41
SPEAKER_14: That's what what what what's his name tried to do?
1:34:43
SPEAKER_14: Deion Sanders, right?
1:34:45
SPEAKER_14: And then it brought him to another level where he actually had power over a pro a real program in a Division 1A that and then turned it into a winning program, which ushered in a few more black coaches, but also on the opposite side said, okay, there's black players now saying, Oh, I could go to HSBCU, BC, HSBCU, and get and get notoriety, NIL deals now, all this stuff.
1:35:08
SPEAKER_14: I mean, it's the the the the the landscape changed a lot, but now it's like these things are our past, like staying black black ecosystem works in your favor more so than it did 20 years ago.
1:35:24
SPEAKER_11: So do you think that okay, so do you think that so do you think the HBCUs are gonna surpass the blue bloods in funding or come even closer?
1:35:33
SPEAKER_14: That's that's the problem because they don't have there's not a the lineage of the people that have come through the structure is so crazy, too.
1:35:42
SPEAKER_14: But yeah, but don't again, you're talking about a handful of people.
1:35:45
SPEAKER_14: Like if you're saying, hey, how many black billionaires went to HSBCUs?
1:35:49
SPEAKER_14: Not many.
1:35:50
SPEAKER_14: But when they do, like the oh, what's the big guy?
1:35:53
SPEAKER_14: The guy um he gave all the money to the Morehouse guy?
1:35:57
SPEAKER_14: Robert Sonic.
1:35:58
SPEAKER_14: He went to Morehouse, right?
1:36:00
SPEAKER_14: He's worth what 10 billion?
1:36:02
SPEAKER_14: Whatever, he's worth 10 billion bucks, right?
1:36:04
SPEAKER_14: I think he's worth a million dollars.
1:36:06
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, yeah.
1:36:07
SPEAKER_14: That's one guy who who respects a thing.
1:36:10
SPEAKER_14: Even the white lady just basically putting money into it.
1:36:12
SPEAKER_14: Look, once these things get more respect, once these things get to the but we're talking about being less like again, less than a hundred years removed, a whole two being maybe one generation or two now, I'd say generations off of the plantation, right?
1:36:28
SPEAKER_14: Oh, not the plantation, Jim Crow and and and segregation, two generations off.
1:36:32
SPEAKER_14: And now we have all these young people that you're seeing it in the entertainment side.
1:36:37
SPEAKER_14: Look, look, it always starts somewhere.
1:36:39
SPEAKER_14: And I feel like you know, like what Jay-Z does, uh, and then you could go all the way up to Colin Kaepernick, and then you could go all the way down to like what they do with the movies, and and how many different people are doing bigger and better things for the community, regardless of how you feel about how they're doing it.
1:36:57
SPEAKER_14: It all makes the culture better.
1:37:01
SPEAKER_14: And then you have stand-up people like Steph Curry, LeBron James, and yeah, y'all even throw Jordan in there, all these different people, Oprah, being figureheads that usher in and groom the new talent and the new hook education.
1:37:14
SPEAKER_14: Can I interject something?
1:37:15
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, go ahead.
1:37:15
SPEAKER_14: You haven't spoken much.
1:37:16
SPEAKER_14: You got it I want to hear your two sentence.
1:37:18
SPEAKER_16: Well, no, because I'm here, I'm hearing my brothers spit that G.
1:37:20
SPEAKER_16: You know what I'm saying?
1:37:21
SPEAKER_16: Put it down for real.
1:37:22
SPEAKER_16: Um, you know what's odd though?
1:37:25
SPEAKER_16: We just keep bringing up like these people who are just LeBron James, Steph Curry.
1:37:31
SPEAKER_16: What happened to just regular people?
1:37:32
SPEAKER_16: Yeah.
1:37:33
SPEAKER_16: Like, wait, wait, wait, why do we gotta jump out the damn gym and shoot a ball for like to be a hero?
1:37:40
SPEAKER_11: What happened to Miss Johnson down?
1:37:42
SPEAKER_11: Right.
1:37:42
SPEAKER_11: What happened to Mr.
1:37:43
SPEAKER_14: Smith has a he has a cleaner, so one leg.
1:37:47
SPEAKER_14: But dog, you got you gotta look, wait, white people, every there's tons of white people in middle America that think Trump, like I'm just using him as an example, is a god because he's a billionaire that spits on poor people because they all want to be like the billionaire that spits on poor people.
1:38:04
SPEAKER_14: Black people, for on the other hand, when it comes to like what we do, yes, Miss Johnson was great, but Miss Johnson ain't never left the block.
1:38:11
SPEAKER_14: Um, you know, always but if the if the if the block is if the block is prosperous sustainable, if the block is prosperous, why would I leave?
1:38:20
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, yeah, why would Mr.
1:38:21
SPEAKER_11: Lilly leave every community?
1:38:23
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, but it's not.
1:38:24
SPEAKER_11: Oh, it's got that 40-year-old.
1:38:25
SPEAKER_11: What's the difference between the city?
1:38:27
SPEAKER_16: Every community, every this, but okay, here, here, here, check it out, check it out.
1:38:30
SPEAKER_16: No matter where you are, there's a German town.
1:38:32
SPEAKER_16: No matter where you are, there's a Chinatown.
1:38:35
SPEAKER_16: No matter where you are in the world, there's always a specific uh uh Korea town, right?
1:38:40
SPEAKER_16: That has groceries.
1:38:42
SPEAKER_16: Olach, yeah, yeah, but that's okay.
1:38:46
SPEAKER_16: But see, that's the thing.
1:38:48
SPEAKER_16: That it's it's I don't know, it's just I don't know, it's almost too late to even be going into this fully the way we need to.
1:38:54
SPEAKER_16: But I but no, it's not like that.
1:38:57
SPEAKER_14: But yeah, and it's yeah, it's it's a difference of opinion.
1:39:00
SPEAKER_14: I I believe in the culture.
1:39:01
SPEAKER_11: It is layered, it's a very layered, nuanced I believe, I belie I believe, I believe in in the in the people, but uh, but the but the problem is is that the the culture is uh is is manufactured.
1:39:14
SPEAKER_11: I mean we just have to still don't understand what that means.
1:39:16
SPEAKER_11: Because because because look, we've we've taken right what we've been given to create what we have.
1:39:27
SPEAKER_11: Culture is organically derived with freedoms that you have, right?
1:39:32
SPEAKER_11: Because that's why with what Hugh, I mean with what Day is saying as far as like a Chinatown, a German town, all kinds of stuff, those have been four situations because the culture, right, has come from the homeland.
1:39:47
SPEAKER_11: And I talked to the I talk about this all the time where I had a conversation with someone, Hispanic guy, I was in Vegas at a conference, and he was like, We're you know, we're both minority.
1:39:56
SPEAKER_11: And I said, Yeah, we're both minority.
1:39:58
SPEAKER_11: I said, But you know what?
1:39:58
SPEAKER_11: I bet you know where your great-grandmother is buried.
1:40:01
SPEAKER_11: I bet you can go back home and see where your great-great-grandfather is buried.
1:40:05
SPEAKER_11: He said, You know what?
1:40:05
SPEAKER_11: You're right.
1:40:06
SPEAKER_11: There's a there's a disconnect in which from our what so-called culture that we never we we got stripped from a long time ago.
1:40:14
SPEAKER_11: And I'm not trying to make excuses like trying to cry me a river, but I'm saying that happened.
1:40:19
SPEAKER_11: And that's real.
1:40:20
SPEAKER_11: I don't my my great-great-grandmother and all that kind of stuff, her name and their name, most of those records we probably wouldn't even be able to get.
1:40:27
SPEAKER_11: So we're kind of locked away from a culture that we could have had as a black culture, so to speak, because it's a microcosm of all these different tribes and all this different shit.
1:40:38
SPEAKER_11: That's why when you go to China, it's not Chinese food we have here.
1:40:42
SPEAKER_11: There's northern Chinese, southern Chinese, there's different parts of China, and the food is completely different.
1:40:47
SPEAKER_11: It's nothing like you have here.
1:40:48
SPEAKER_11: Japan, the same way, the sushi's not the same, all this shit.
1:40:51
SPEAKER_11: So that culture, right?
1:40:53
SPEAKER_11: When people come here and they recognize it immediately.
1:40:56
SPEAKER_11: Where's that authentic Al Sawidary?
1:40:58
SPEAKER_11: Or where's that authentic Chinese, or where's that authentic Indian?
1:41:01
SPEAKER_11: They know it.
1:41:02
SPEAKER_11: We don't know it.
1:41:04
SPEAKER_11: We're talking about some fried fried chicken, you know, because we started from nothing and we were given that.
1:41:10
SPEAKER_14: Fried chicken is though.
1:41:15
SPEAKER_12: Fried chicken.
1:41:16
SPEAKER_11: I love fried, I love fried chicken.
1:41:17
SPEAKER_11: So what is your point?
1:41:18
SPEAKER_11: Well, it was like Caribbean, it was, you know, comes Caribbean, but I'm just saying, Asian.
1:41:22
SPEAKER_14: But that's every but that's every jerk, like white.
1:41:25
SPEAKER_14: See, this is the thing.
1:41:26
SPEAKER_14: We don't black culture is unique to the US.
1:41:30
SPEAKER_14: Hip hop came from it, fried chicken, all these things.
1:41:34
SPEAKER_14: You know the stories that like chitlins and but we're the only ones, we're the only ones, Hugh, that is unique to the U.S.
1:41:40
SPEAKER_11: I know that, but that's what I'm saying.
1:41:42
SPEAKER_11: So it's manufactured.
1:41:44
SPEAKER_14: But no, it's not every okay.
1:41:46
SPEAKER_14: I remember I'm having flashbacks of the first time we argued about this.
1:41:49
SPEAKER_14: Every culture is manufactured.
1:41:51
SPEAKER_14: You take the circumstances that you're in and turn them into culture.
1:41:55
SPEAKER_14: If I put you in a cage and told you, why why why do you why why do Chinese people eat bot choy?
1:42:00
SPEAKER_11: Because it's the only vegetable that's around.
1:42:02
SPEAKER_11: What right?
1:42:02
SPEAKER_11: What is it?
1:42:03
SPEAKER_11: That's unique to their culture, it's unique to where they came from.
1:42:06
SPEAKER_11: But but there's things about us that we would have.
1:42:10
SPEAKER_11: There's things about us as far as agriculture, as far as things that we would have, as far as things that we would have as American culture people, right?
1:42:17
SPEAKER_11: Having having a connection to those, to that lineage that we just don't have.
1:42:23
SPEAKER_11: And it is what it is, we have to make do with what we make do with, but it's a disconnect where our culture and what we actually came from, yeah, we cannot connect to.
1:42:33
SPEAKER_11: We we can go great great.
1:42:34
SPEAKER_11: Wait, wait, wait, wait.
1:42:35
SPEAKER_11: And that's probably the farthest we can go back.
1:42:37
SPEAKER_11: I know we can go great, great, honestly.
1:42:39
SPEAKER_11: Those are semantics.
1:42:40
SPEAKER_11: Any black part?
1:42:41
SPEAKER_11: No, we can go great great.
1:42:42
SPEAKER_11: I mean, can you go past your great great grandparents?
1:42:44
SPEAKER_14: Okay, that's that's all well, but that's the circumstances that we were in.
1:42:48
SPEAKER_14: Most people okay, so when the well, it's not most people, trust me.
1:42:51
SPEAKER_14: People got family trades out there.
1:42:53
SPEAKER_16: Italians, Italians can trace it all the way back.
1:42:55
SPEAKER_12: I know, but all the way back to like Christopher Columbus.
1:42:59
SPEAKER_14: They got talking 500 pan sauces that I know, but you're talking about people who were enslaved.
1:43:05
SPEAKER_14: I if you took when the Jew uh like the Jews, when they when they were enslaved by the Egyptians, you could only go so far back to understand.
1:43:12
SPEAKER_14: So there's there's a whole lost line of black, like black Africans to Americans, same as there's like the the the Egyptian Jews to whatever, or or even the people lost in the Holocaust.
1:43:23
SPEAKER_14: Like there's people who lost the whole lineage because of the Holocaust.
1:43:26
SPEAKER_14: So you're telling me that there's there is survivors from that.
1:43:30
SPEAKER_14: I'm just saying there's people that lost this whole genocide in Palestine, like all of that, Gaza.
1:43:35
SPEAKER_14: Like there's people that are losing a whole generation of people, and then 20, like 100 years down the line, okay, they're gonna look backwards and say, like, what happened?
1:43:44
SPEAKER_14: Who's this?
1:43:45
SPEAKER_14: Who's that?
1:43:45
SPEAKER_14: Well, well, okay, let me let me play devil's advocate then.
1:43:48
SPEAKER_14: Let me play.
1:43:49
SPEAKER_11: Let me let me play devil's advocate.
1:43:50
SPEAKER_11: But that doesn't mean that their culture is manufactured, because they're gonna change.
1:43:53
SPEAKER_11: Every culture evolves.
1:43:54
SPEAKER_11: No, no, no.
1:43:54
SPEAKER_11: Let me play.
1:43:56
SPEAKER_11: Let me play devil's advocate then.
1:43:58
SPEAKER_11: If we lost our way in genocide or some shit today, as far as black people, and we had to restart today.
1:44:09
SPEAKER_11: No, I'm saying our ship would look exactly the way it looks today.
1:44:12
SPEAKER_11: Exactly the way it looks today.
1:44:13
SPEAKER_11: How do you figure?
1:44:20
SPEAKER_11: Because we everybody talks about slavery as far as the physical thing of slavery.
1:44:24
SPEAKER_11: The mental shock.
1:44:27
SPEAKER_11: The trauma is passed around.
1:44:29
SPEAKER_11: We to this day, to this day, there's a lot of complexes within our own fucking race, from light skinned to dark skin to you know that like there that that that started from before in slavery.
1:44:46
SPEAKER_11: That's so you have to understand when I'm talking about our culture, that's part of it.
1:44:50
SPEAKER_11: How many times motherfucker, oh light skin motherfucker, or you know, dark skin?
1:44:54
SPEAKER_11: We hip hop talks about that shit to this day.
1:44:57
SPEAKER_11: So it's manufactured, it was put into us.
1:45:01
SPEAKER_11: It's true.
1:45:02
SPEAKER_11: That's true.
1:45:04
SPEAKER_11: You don't think that's talked about.
1:45:05
SPEAKER_11: You don't think you don't think that's talked about?
1:45:07
SPEAKER_11: Light skin versus dark skin, like as far as black.
1:45:10
SPEAKER_11: Oh, that's like that's like the blonde versus brunette.
1:45:13
SPEAKER_16: But no, that it can't get through those.
1:45:16
SPEAKER_14: Oh, the dumb blombs.
1:45:17
SPEAKER_14: You can change your hair color.
1:45:18
SPEAKER_16: Come on, bro.
1:45:19
SPEAKER_16: You can't change what's this.
1:45:20
SPEAKER_16: Okay, look, the extreme.
1:45:22
SPEAKER_16: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
1:45:23
SPEAKER_12: Yeah, you can't blob whatever.
1:45:27
SPEAKER_12: We gotta wrap it up on that.
1:45:28
SPEAKER_12: Those are interchangeable.
1:45:29
SPEAKER_11: Come on, those are interchangeable.
1:45:30
SPEAKER_12: Your talk can be the same thing.
1:45:32
SPEAKER_12: You're you're like you said, you can literally buy this shit.
1:45:34
SPEAKER_12: No, look, you're you're dog, you're you're trying versus dog.
1:45:37
SPEAKER_12: There's obviously there, yeah, there's a thing there.
1:45:40
SPEAKER_11: But I'm just saying it's been a thing there.
1:45:43
SPEAKER_11: There's been a thing there.
1:45:44
SPEAKER_11: Dog that's been an inherent thing there between black people inherently that was used to divide.
1:45:50
SPEAKER_11: That that's why we that's why we so that's why we social socioeconomic bomb each other.
1:45:55
SPEAKER_11: That's why we always go race for race, right?
1:45:58
SPEAKER_11: Like, oh, who's the car?
1:45:59
SPEAKER_11: Who's the this?
1:46:00
SPEAKER_11: Who's the that?
1:46:00
SPEAKER_11: Like, you don't understand getting good pandering towards where we can get a step in the door.
1:46:07
SPEAKER_11: That that that's that's that's the way we've been taught to to get ahead.
1:46:11
SPEAKER_11: It's still to this day.
1:46:13
SPEAKER_14: What that has to do with culture.
1:46:14
SPEAKER_11: Okay, because it is our culture, Hugh.
1:46:17
SPEAKER_11: That's what I'm saying.
1:46:18
SPEAKER_11: It is to play your position, right?
1:46:21
SPEAKER_11: Get in there, fit in, get in where you fit in.
1:46:24
SPEAKER_11: I mean, I I'm surprised you're like acting confused right now.
1:46:27
SPEAKER_11: Getting into corporate and trying to, you know, before you've been a non-conformist my whole career.
1:46:36
SPEAKER_16: Actually, it's but Hugh, it's actually not about like, but it's not like it's so nuanced and layered, and it's not even about you, him, or him, it's how a systemic system has been presented to us in our hundreds and hundreds of years.
1:46:54
SPEAKER_11: In our own, in our own race, we'll say to if somebody speaks too proper, you sound right.
1:46:58
SPEAKER_11: Yo, you sound white.
1:46:59
SPEAKER_11: Where the fuck does that be?
1:47:00
SPEAKER_11: How ignorant is it?
1:47:01
SPEAKER_11: How ignorant is this?
1:47:03
SPEAKER_11: Talking proper, talking proper is isn't it?
1:47:06
SPEAKER_11: Let me ask you a question.
1:47:07
SPEAKER_14: Let me ask you a question.
1:47:08
SPEAKER_14: Let me just let's let's let's you know, I you know, I talked about WNBA.
1:47:12
SPEAKER_14: What else I'm saying?
1:47:12
SPEAKER_14: Why the fuck do you think being an objective viewer of sports, looking at the current state of like the fanfare and the WNBA, right?
1:47:24
SPEAKER_14: The cultural divide, meaning that the WNBA has a culture, right?
1:47:29
SPEAKER_14: Lesbians, women, black women, um, a lot of whatever.
1:47:34
SPEAKER_14: Caitlin Clark has broken that mold, and all of a sudden ushered in a bunch of fans, including you two.
1:47:43
SPEAKER_14: You love her to death, but you ignore the other.
1:47:46
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, Cece, right?
1:47:47
SPEAKER_14: Cece.
1:47:47
SPEAKER_14: She's the greatest ever.
1:47:49
SPEAKER_14: The great, the great.
1:47:50
SPEAKER_14: The same, you two, the same people who know all the things about basketball and all that shit.
1:47:55
SPEAKER_14: Look at what she's doing, and then also at the same time say Michael Jordan's the GOAT because he did so many amazing things as well, right?
1:48:03
SPEAKER_14: According to your logic, right?
1:48:06
SPEAKER_14: So you're not when you're again, you're picking and choosing what you feel is the best representation of what black culture is.
1:48:14
SPEAKER_14: The best representation of what black culture is is somebody like Angel Reese.
1:48:17
SPEAKER_14: No, no, no.
1:48:18
SPEAKER_14: But what do you do?
1:48:18
SPEAKER_14: No, but what do you do?
1:48:19
SPEAKER_14: You send me highlight reels of her missing layups.
1:48:22
SPEAKER_14: Hold on.
1:48:22
SPEAKER_14: You because she misses everyone.
1:48:23
SPEAKER_14: Not the fact that she's no no no, but that's something you're making this something completely different.
1:48:29
SPEAKER_14: No, but no, no, no, no, no.
1:48:30
SPEAKER_14: It is not different.
1:48:31
SPEAKER_14: It is not different because you you have taken a lot of things.
1:48:33
SPEAKER_14: She misses a lot of layups.
1:48:34
SPEAKER_14: No, you're taking every negative thing that happens, the crabs in the barrel, the this, that, and the third, and then negating that from the good culture that's built, like this little girl, this this girl uh getting a black Barbie doll, or Ryan Kugler having the biggest movie of all of last year and all this stuff, and say, Oh, that's just a thing.
1:48:53
SPEAKER_14: But Steven Spielberg owns because Steven Spielberg has been making movies since 1979 or whatever.
1:48:59
SPEAKER_11: Bingo, bingo, Ryan Kugler only been around for about 10 years.
1:49:02
SPEAKER_11: So you're telling me but you don't think they were directors, you don't tell me he's not gonna have to do it.
1:49:06
SPEAKER_11: So you don't, but you don't think that's what I'm saying?
1:49:07
SPEAKER_11: You don't think he's gonna have his time and his movies will get bigger?
1:49:10
SPEAKER_11: But but Hugh, that's my point.
1:49:12
SPEAKER_11: You don't think there were black directors?
1:49:13
SPEAKER_11: Black as fuck, like black to be black.
1:49:15
SPEAKER_11: But Hugh, you don't think there were directors that wanted to be black back in 1978?
1:49:18
SPEAKER_11: No, they didn't have the dog, but they didn't have a platform.
1:49:21
SPEAKER_11: Why?
1:49:22
SPEAKER_11: Because the platform is not for theirs to have, the platform is ours to try to chase.
1:49:27
SPEAKER_11: This is what you don't understand.
1:49:28
SPEAKER_11: It's not about chasing.
1:49:29
SPEAKER_11: We chase, yes, we are.
1:49:32
SPEAKER_11: What did we do with that movie?
1:49:33
SPEAKER_14: Who did Ryan Kugel do with Center?
1:49:34
SPEAKER_14: He owns the IP.
1:49:36
SPEAKER_14: The studio doesn't, he owns the hew, hew, hew.
1:49:39
SPEAKER_14: It was the biggest movie last year.
1:49:42
SPEAKER_14: Okay, okay, he but what a he owned Gilbert didn't get that privilege until years after his first movie came out.
1:49:49
SPEAKER_14: This nigga got this this Nilam.
1:49:52
SPEAKER_16: But when every time when every time it's Richard Coppola headed at the at the Godfather, okay, like that was his first movie.
1:50:00
SPEAKER_16: Movie.
1:50:00
SPEAKER_16: Like, that's not, I don't, I don't, and Ryan Cougar had to make Black Panther$5 billion.
1:50:06
SPEAKER_16: Yes.
1:50:07
unknown: Okay.
1:50:08
SPEAKER_16: I don't know.
1:50:10
SPEAKER_14: I'll let you have that one.
1:50:11
SPEAKER_14: I don't know.
1:50:11
SPEAKER_14: I'm not going to look it up either.
1:50:12
SPEAKER_14: I'll just take you for your.
1:50:13
SPEAKER_14: But the point is, Ryan Cougar had to make 17 blockbusters to get to that point.
1:50:19
SPEAKER_14: Oh, he made Black Panther, which was one of these two, three pay out of it.
1:50:23
SPEAKER_14: Amazing.
1:50:23
SPEAKER_14: Amazing.
1:50:24
SPEAKER_14: He made Cree.
1:50:25
SPEAKER_14: He made Cree.
1:50:26
SPEAKER_14: Yeah.
1:50:26
SPEAKER_14: He made fruit goals.
1:50:27
SPEAKER_14: He was he had a resume, is what I'm saying.
1:50:29
SPEAKER_16: Yeah.
1:50:29
SPEAKER_14: Okay.
1:50:29
SPEAKER_14: So he's got before they got up to that certain point.
1:50:32
SPEAKER_14: There's only a handful of people who were talented enough to meet.
1:50:36
SPEAKER_14: I don't think it's talent, though.
1:50:37
SPEAKER_16: It ain't talent.
1:50:37
SPEAKER_16: It's not talented.
1:50:38
SPEAKER_14: How many movies didn't make before that?
1:50:40
SPEAKER_14: There was a bunch of opportunity before that that got to be.
1:50:42
SPEAKER_14: No, it's not about Snowberger.
1:50:44
SPEAKER_16: It's about opportunities.
1:50:45
SPEAKER_11: It is.
1:50:45
SPEAKER_16: It's not opportunity.
1:50:48
SPEAKER_16: You think he's the first black talented director?
1:50:50
SPEAKER_16: Like, come on.
1:50:51
SPEAKER_16: I didn't say that.
1:50:53
SPEAKER_16: Spike Lee had to beg to get Malcolm X paid.
1:50:56
SPEAKER_16: I get it.
1:50:56
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, I get it, but there's always that person that pioneers.
1:50:59
SPEAKER_11: You know what's funny?
1:51:00
SPEAKER_11: You know what's funny?
1:51:01
SPEAKER_11: The the the we need to stop being so impressed by being the first something, right?
1:51:09
SPEAKER_11: We need to start being impressed.
1:51:11
SPEAKER_11: We need to start being impressed by being doing it.
1:51:14
SPEAKER_11: Okay?
1:51:16
SPEAKER_11: The first is this, the first that's oh, the first this, the first that.
1:51:19
SPEAKER_12: No, but I'm saying it.
1:51:20
SPEAKER_12: The whole reason you suck off Caitlin Clark is because she's the first person.
1:51:25
SPEAKER_12: I'm 15, 15, 10.
1:51:27
SPEAKER_12: She's a pen game.
1:51:28
SPEAKER_12: No, no, she's a every fucking person.
1:51:30
SPEAKER_11: She was a she's the all-time leader.
1:51:31
SPEAKER_11: She's the all-time leader.
1:51:32
SPEAKER_11: She's the all-time leader of scoring in college basketball history, man or female.
1:51:36
SPEAKER_11: You know who was that?
1:51:37
SPEAKER_11: You know who that before her?
1:51:38
SPEAKER_12: Kelsey Plum.
1:51:40
SPEAKER_12: Kelsey Plum had that record before her, and she's a female.
1:51:43
SPEAKER_12: But she wasn't as polarizing as the figures Caitlin Clark.
1:51:46
SPEAKER_12: But but you're saying, but but you're as good.
1:51:48
SPEAKER_02: She wasn't credited.
1:51:49
SPEAKER_02: That is good.
1:51:50
SPEAKER_14: Somebody else, Juju Watkin, well, Juju got hurt, but she could Juju Watkin.
1:51:53
SPEAKER_14: Any girl, any man, woman could break that record any day now.
1:51:57
SPEAKER_14: Well, I don't know.
1:51:58
SPEAKER_14: We have to look at it.
1:51:59
SPEAKER_14: That doesn't make her actually.
1:52:01
SPEAKER_14: I think it kind of does.
1:52:02
SPEAKER_14: It doesn't.
1:52:02
SPEAKER_14: No, it doesn't.
1:52:03
SPEAKER_14: Because according to you, every record LeBron had doesn't make him special.
1:52:08
SPEAKER_14: Well, that doesn't make him greater than Jordan.
1:52:10
SPEAKER_14: Well, look, look at the floor.
1:52:11
SPEAKER_14: Doesn't make him the face of the lead.
1:52:13
SPEAKER_14: You say that he flops, he tries, he doesn't have to be a little bit more.
1:52:14
SPEAKER_14: No, no, no.
1:52:15
SPEAKER_14: You can put a nigga down.
1:52:16
SPEAKER_14: Okay, Hugh.
1:52:17
SPEAKER_14: But you put the you prop the white girl up.
1:52:19
SPEAKER_12: She's being packed.
1:52:20
SPEAKER_12: Hugh flopping.
1:52:21
SPEAKER_12: Hugh to that point.
1:52:24
SPEAKER_11: No, I will make I will tell you why.
1:52:27
SPEAKER_11: You're giving a double standard to a white person because that's the problem that they own already.
1:52:31
SPEAKER_11: I will tell you why.
1:52:32
SPEAKER_11: That's why that's why her fans are the way they are.
1:52:34
SPEAKER_11: In the LeBron, in the LeBron case, I will tell you why.
1:52:37
SPEAKER_11: Because she did, she she broke the record in four, and he broke the record in 28.
1:52:41
SPEAKER_11: I'm sorry.
1:52:42
SPEAKER_11: I feel like four.
1:52:44
SPEAKER_11: Yeah.
1:52:44
SPEAKER_11: So Caitlin Clark broke the all-time scoring record in college in four, and LeBron had 28.
1:52:50
SPEAKER_11: So I just feel like four 28 years.
1:52:54
SPEAKER_11: No, 28 years in just in the NBA.
1:52:56
SPEAKER_11: He broke the record.
1:52:57
SPEAKER_11: That's why I don't do it.
1:52:58
SPEAKER_11: And Andrew Reese misses a lot of things.
1:53:01
SPEAKER_11: So you're saying that the college misses a lot of damage.
1:53:04
SPEAKER_12: So you're saying that's the truth.
1:53:06
SPEAKER_12: That's the truth.
1:53:10
SPEAKER_12: Why is Ryan playing?
1:53:12
SPEAKER_11: Why is Andrew Reese's publication of layup missing some kind of civil rights movement or something?
1:53:18
SPEAKER_12: Nobody ever said that.
1:53:20
SPEAKER_11: No, but she misses layups.
1:53:21
SPEAKER_14: But once she misses layups, why don't you dropped the 2020 and uh 2020 game with with five years?
1:53:28
SPEAKER_14: Nobody can do it.
1:53:28
SPEAKER_14: She's from round away.
1:53:30
SPEAKER_11: I think, but I think Angel Reese, I think Angel Reese looked better and could beat her in fighting, okay?
1:53:36
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, of course.
1:53:38
SPEAKER_14: She's bigger and better.
1:53:39
SPEAKER_14: She looked a lot better, too.
1:53:40
SPEAKER_14: And she looked a lot better.
1:53:41
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, but to her, I'm just saying, from a cultural standpoint, WNBA culture, because you're looking at it, and then there's no color in the WNBA, let's just say, because everybody's diverse.
1:53:53
SPEAKER_14: There's black girls, white girls, Chinese, Portuguese.
1:53:55
SPEAKER_14: I see a whole bunch of different girls.
1:53:56
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, page buckets.
1:53:57
SPEAKER_14: Page buckets.
1:53:58
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, all these different flavors of women playing basketball.
1:54:02
SPEAKER_14: I don't understand how the face of the the so-called just because she's popular, yes, say Caitlin Clark is popular.
1:54:08
SPEAKER_14: So is her friend Sophie uh Cunningham.
1:54:10
SPEAKER_14: They're very popular amongst a certain demographic, but amongst people who actually know hoops, who actually know WNBA or NBA, they ain't they ain't shit.
1:54:21
SPEAKER_14: They're just like, okay, yeah, she gets both.
1:54:24
SPEAKER_14: Who is she?
1:54:24
SPEAKER_14: But Kelsey, Kelsey Mitchell is second in the league in scoring.
1:54:29
SPEAKER_14: Or third, second to third.
1:54:30
SPEAKER_14: Hey, Hugh, Hugh.
1:54:32
SPEAKER_14: Kelsey Milch is a fucking teammate.
1:54:34
SPEAKER_14: You guys love scoring so much.
1:54:36
SPEAKER_16: We only care, listen.
1:54:38
SPEAKER_16: You only care about it's about five players we care about.
1:54:42
SPEAKER_16: Kelsey Plum, Kelsey Mitchell, Kelsey Graham, we don't care about.
1:54:47
SPEAKER_16: And and there's some look, there's some there's some players, there's some players that just have that.
1:54:54
SPEAKER_11: No, there's some players that just come in and they electrify.
1:54:56
SPEAKER_11: That's what it is.
1:54:57
SPEAKER_11: She got it, right?
1:54:58
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, it's an it factor.
1:55:00
SPEAKER_14: Jeremy Lynn had an it factor for a minute.
1:55:03
SPEAKER_14: But only two weeks he did for two fucking weeks.
1:55:06
SPEAKER_14: But he was the Michael Jordan of China.
1:55:09
SPEAKER_14: But Caitlin's had it since college.
1:55:12
SPEAKER_14: Caitlin has his college.
1:55:13
SPEAKER_14: No, she got it when Angel has been.
1:55:16
SPEAKER_11: She's all-time leading scorer, men or women, in college history.
1:55:21
SPEAKER_14: Kelsey Plum owned that record before her, but Kelsey Plum didn't get the recording.
1:55:24
SPEAKER_14: What the hell is Kelsey?
1:55:26
SPEAKER_14: The only reason she got the notoriety for that record was because Angel Reese, a black girl from Baltimore.
1:55:33
SPEAKER_12: Kelsey Plum was not hitting 40 foot three-point shots.
1:55:36
SPEAKER_11: Kelsey Plum is not shooting from the logo.
1:55:40
SPEAKER_16: If Kelsey Plum walked past me right now, I wouldn't even know who you are.
1:55:45
SPEAKER_16: She has no it factor.
1:55:48
SPEAKER_12: Yo, people have it factors.
1:55:49
SPEAKER_12: Neither does Caitlin Clark.
1:55:50
SPEAKER_12: Caitlin Clark is a bland.
1:55:52
SPEAKER_12: You ever see her talk in an interview?
1:55:55
SPEAKER_12: Come on, bro.
1:55:56
SPEAKER_12: She ain't got no it factor.
1:55:58
SPEAKER_16: Her it is it.
1:56:00
SPEAKER_16: You hating on her is the it factor.
1:56:02
SPEAKER_16: No, I'm not hating on her.
1:56:02
SPEAKER_16: Us loving her is the it factor.
1:56:04
SPEAKER_14: See, you love her for all the wrong reasons.
1:56:07
SPEAKER_14: That's the problem here.
1:56:10
SPEAKER_14: There's superficial reasons.
1:56:12
SPEAKER_14: Superficial meaning that the notoriety outshines the skill.
1:56:17
SPEAKER_11: And you know what?
1:56:17
SPEAKER_11: And you know what?
1:56:18
SPEAKER_11: And you know what, Hugh?
1:56:19
SPEAKER_11: Hugh, you have to give context because I'm looking this up.
1:56:22
SPEAKER_11: So Kelsey Plum had the record in 2014.
1:56:25
SPEAKER_11: That's a whole different time.
1:56:26
SPEAKER_11: 2014, women's basketball has tremendously grown from 2014 to when she did it in 2024.
1:56:37
SPEAKER_11: I mean, think about it.
1:56:38
SPEAKER_11: Caitlin Clark broke the record in 2024.
1:56:46
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, so Caitlin Clark's only been in the league for two years.
1:56:48
SPEAKER_14: So it's 10 years removed until somebody broke the record.
1:56:51
SPEAKER_12: Yes.
1:56:52
SPEAKER_12: And somebody else will break the record.
1:56:53
SPEAKER_16: Hold on, but he 10 years in the social media era is like you might as well be fucking in a dinosaur era.
1:56:59
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, yeah.
1:56:59
SPEAKER_14: Okay, owned the record before Kelsey Plum.
1:57:02
SPEAKER_14: I think it was um Gaiesha Fair.
1:57:05
SPEAKER_14: Buffalo.
1:57:06
SPEAKER_14: No, Kelsey Mitchell.
1:57:07
SPEAKER_11: Kelsey Mitchell.
1:57:09
SPEAKER_11: So before that, 2020 to 2024, uh it says 2020 to 2024.
1:57:17
SPEAKER_11: Oh no.
1:57:17
SPEAKER_11: So so number three has 3,400 points.
1:57:20
SPEAKER_11: Number two, Kelsey Plum 3,500 points.
1:57:23
SPEAKER_11: So basically, no one had the Kelsey Plum had the record, and then no, but who had the record before?
1:57:28
SPEAKER_14: It was it was it went back years.
1:57:32
SPEAKER_11: 1998, someone had uh Jackie Styles.
1:57:36
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, I know her.
1:57:36
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, I remember.
1:57:37
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, but that dude, do you understand?
1:57:39
SPEAKER_14: So you're so so it's a different time.
1:57:43
SPEAKER_14: It's a different time.
1:57:44
SPEAKER_14: I'm not yo.
1:57:45
SPEAKER_14: I swear to you.
1:57:46
SPEAKER_11: It's just like it's just like um, you know, just like we didn't know.
1:57:49
SPEAKER_14: I'm gonna put some Uncle Ruckus blackface on both of you for this for this for this damn thumbnail.
1:57:53
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, I'll I'll sum it up.
1:57:55
SPEAKER_11: I'll sum it up.
1:57:55
SPEAKER_11: I'll sum it up like this.
1:57:59
SPEAKER_11: I'll sum it up like this.
1:58:00
SPEAKER_11: It's like we know, and this is honestly, Hugh, I'm gonna be honest.
1:58:04
SPEAKER_11: I'm not making a joke here.
1:58:06
SPEAKER_11: We know that LeBron will probably play 50 games this year.
1:58:09
SPEAKER_11: We know he probably will play 50.
1:58:11
SPEAKER_11: All right.
1:58:12
SPEAKER_11: He might fuck around and win an MVP.
1:58:13
SPEAKER_11: But no, but I'm saying, yeah, again, fuck around and win MVP, all those things, playing 50 games.
1:58:17
SPEAKER_11: Yeah, we know that to be true, right?
1:58:19
SPEAKER_11: However, we're gonna put that up there, right?
1:58:23
SPEAKER_11: As a 40 plus player, and we're gonna say that's great.
1:58:26
SPEAKER_11: We're gonna say that's amazing.
1:58:27
SPEAKER_11: We're gonna say he averaged 20 points for your guy at 40 plus.
1:58:31
SPEAKER_11: And we're and then we're gonna look at Jordan, we're gonna say he played 82 and he averaged 20.
1:58:35
SPEAKER_11: And we're gonna say LeBron, we're gonna LeBron played 52 and he averaged 20.
1:58:39
SPEAKER_11: And we're gonna say LeBron, we're gonna say LeBron flew private and and had Jordan shows.
1:58:46
SPEAKER_11: That's true, because he's Michael Jordan.
1:58:48
SPEAKER_11: But we're gonna say, but but but averaging 50, averaging 20 and 50 games versus being 40, averaging uh uh 20 and 82 a full season, you would look at that the same, just the same way we're looking at Caitlin Clark, right?
1:59:02
SPEAKER_11: Better than Kelsey Plum.
1:59:04
SPEAKER_11: It's a different time.
1:59:06
SPEAKER_14: It's not no, it's not a different time because that right it's a time and place.
1:59:10
SPEAKER_14: The moment happened.
1:59:12
SPEAKER_14: It's it's sort of like with um, and I want to let's bring it back to music and we can wrap it up.
1:59:17
SPEAKER_14: The whole Kendrick Lamar and Drake thing, right?
1:59:21
SPEAKER_14: The time and place was right.
1:59:23
SPEAKER_14: Kendrick made the moment happen.
1:59:26
SPEAKER_14: But when you reflect back on the moment, was it really that good?
1:59:31
SPEAKER_14: Because nobody listens to that song anymore.
1:59:33
SPEAKER_14: He got they got he got these people so fucking fucked up in the head, they had them performing at the Super Bowl to a crowd of white people that only knew that one hook.
1:59:42
SPEAKER_14: They don't even know the words, Polly.
1:59:44
SPEAKER_14: Oh, they're just a pedophile part because that's part of the culture.
1:59:47
SPEAKER_14: But he never, like after that, it was all downhill.
1:59:52
SPEAKER_16: And he'll come back and we're you're so you uh are you upset that he fully grasped the moment and grabbed it by the throat?
2:00:00
SPEAKER_16: Like he delivered a better track.
2:00:03
SPEAKER_14: No, everybody can do that.
2:00:04
SPEAKER_14: But not everyone knows.
2:00:12
SPEAKER_14: When Jay signed Nash.
2:00:15
SPEAKER_16: Okay, who won the battle, who won the war in the Jay-Z thing?
2:00:18
SPEAKER_16: What in the Jay-Z thing?
2:00:21
SPEAKER_16: Jay won the war.
2:00:23
SPEAKER_16: How?
2:00:24
SPEAKER_16: Ether?
2:00:25
SPEAKER_16: How?
2:00:26
SPEAKER_16: Ether, come on.
2:00:27
SPEAKER_16: That's a verb noun.
2:00:29
SPEAKER_16: It's a verb.
2:00:31
SPEAKER_16: It's ether.
2:00:31
SPEAKER_14: Ether, ether's not just a thing anymore.
2:00:34
SPEAKER_14: Actually, understand music or understand followed the whole thing.
2:00:40
SPEAKER_14: You you you were around it, but you you guys are like outside.
2:00:43
SPEAKER_14: You were all in like Maryland and wherever the fuck.
2:00:46
SPEAKER_14: Well, you were not.
2:00:47
SPEAKER_14: I don't know.
2:00:48
SPEAKER_14: You visiting your uncle in the Bronx at those countries.
2:00:50
SPEAKER_12: If I gotta be in the Bitcoin, you're crazy.
2:00:54
SPEAKER_03: Every other week.
2:00:56
SPEAKER_11: No, you're acting out.
2:00:57
SPEAKER_11: No, no, no.
2:00:57
SPEAKER_11: No, no, you're crazy.
2:00:58
SPEAKER_16: If I had to be figured out, I was getting paid.
2:01:04
SPEAKER_11: I was outside.
2:01:05
SPEAKER_11: Okay, it's all good.
2:01:06
SPEAKER_11: But I was there.
2:01:07
SPEAKER_11: I was a crispy cuts.
2:01:08
SPEAKER_11: I was a crispy cuts.
2:01:09
SPEAKER_11: You was in all you was in Long Island.
2:01:10
SPEAKER_11: I was a crispy cut.
2:01:13
SPEAKER_16: No, no.
2:01:15
SPEAKER_16: If I gotta use an encyclopedia and a detective to figure shit out, it ain't popping.
2:01:20
SPEAKER_16: Ether is a verb.
2:01:22
SPEAKER_16: It's done.
2:01:23
SPEAKER_16: It's a verb, Hugh.
2:01:24
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, what does that mean?
2:01:25
SPEAKER_16: Put that shit on to that meaning.
2:01:27
SPEAKER_16: What does that mean?
2:01:28
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, it has transcended the bullshit of rap.
2:01:31
SPEAKER_14: Okay, so no, no, no.
2:01:33
SPEAKER_14: It has transcended the bullshit of rap.
2:01:35
SPEAKER_14: Somebody, if you ask a kid now, yeah, Ether.
2:01:38
SPEAKER_14: Who cares?
2:01:38
SPEAKER_14: Nobody uses that slang.
2:01:40
SPEAKER_14: Who cares a kid now?
2:01:42
SPEAKER_14: Who cares?
2:01:42
SPEAKER_14: Okay, they don't exist.
2:01:43
SPEAKER_14: We were there.
2:01:44
SPEAKER_14: They don't give a shit about rap.
2:01:45
SPEAKER_14: Who just sold out Yankee Stadium going on all these tours?
2:01:48
SPEAKER_14: People are talking about he's still.
2:01:51
SPEAKER_16: That's because of Beyonce.
2:01:53
SPEAKER_16: Just because Ether came out.
2:01:58
SPEAKER_11: No.
2:01:59
SPEAKER_14: Actually, I was still in school, so I was probably in Pennsylvania.
2:02:02
SPEAKER_14: When did Ether come out?
2:02:04
SPEAKER_14: 2001.
2:02:05
SPEAKER_14: 2001.
2:02:06
SPEAKER_14: I was at school in Pennsylvania, but I would live, but I still lived in New York.
2:02:08
SPEAKER_14: I went back home.
2:02:09
unknown: Man, Ether.
2:02:10
SPEAKER_14: He was far, far.
2:02:14
SPEAKER_14: And you were visiting.
2:02:15
SPEAKER_14: I was living there.
2:02:16
SPEAKER_14: No, I had two homes.
2:02:18
SPEAKER_14: Yo, nigga, I had two homes back in 2001.
2:02:22
SPEAKER_14: 2001?
2:02:23
SPEAKER_14: Two houses.
2:02:24
SPEAKER_14: What are you talking about?
2:02:26
SPEAKER_14: Me too.
2:02:26
SPEAKER_14: And a house on the island.
2:02:30
SPEAKER_11: No, I was I was I had the condo and I was back over there too.
2:02:33
SPEAKER_11: Like I had the condo back here.
2:02:35
SPEAKER_11: I got the condo 2000.
2:02:36
SPEAKER_11: And actually, ooh, ooh, ooh's with it.
2:02:39
SPEAKER_11: Yo, we would we we was all there.
2:02:41
SPEAKER_11: I called him.
2:02:42
SPEAKER_11: I called him.
2:02:42
SPEAKER_11: I was like, yo, I'm not coming back.
2:02:44
SPEAKER_14: I was there too in 2004.
2:02:47
SPEAKER_14: That was a spot, yo.
2:02:48
SPEAKER_14: You should, you know what you should do?
2:02:49
SPEAKER_16: Go back there and try to buy that shit and just turn it into like a just we need to go we need to go back there and just do a do a uh like a like a documentary, like and what you know, like in um like MTV MTV True Lives where they be walking down.
2:03:04
SPEAKER_16: All right, can we wrap this up?
2:03:05
SPEAKER_16: I gotta go.
2:03:06
SPEAKER_14: Oh no, let's go.
2:03:07
SPEAKER_14: I mean, thank you guys.
2:03:08
SPEAKER_14: This is great, you know.
2:03:09
SPEAKER_14: Thank you.
2:03:10
SPEAKER_14: I'll keep everything in there.
2:03:11
SPEAKER_14: I just you know it's a good one.
2:03:13
SPEAKER_16: I'm sorry before your perspective.
2:03:14
SPEAKER_16: Before we go, could you post the um top five attended games in WNBA?
2:03:18
SPEAKER_16: I'm just curious.
2:03:19
SPEAKER_03: Oh I'll put it up on the screen.
2:03:21
SPEAKER_03: Uh I'm just well, you know what's funny.
2:03:26
SPEAKER_11: I'm glad I'm glad LeBron's leaving the the uh the League of Good Hands.
2:03:30
SPEAKER_11: The leave the League of Good Hands.
2:03:32
SPEAKER_11: Uh WNBA breaks uh has more attendance than the NBA.
2:03:37
SPEAKER_11: And the All Star that's pretty big, Hugh, you gotta admit.
2:03:40
SPEAKER_16: That's pretty impressive.
2:03:41
SPEAKER_14: I came there to see um Angel.
2:03:43
SPEAKER_14: Cece.
2:03:46
SPEAKER_14: Angel didn't even have to play for her for them to get the she missed eight layups in the game.
2:03:51
SPEAKER_16: I love her though.
2:03:52
SPEAKER_16: I love her.
2:03:52
SPEAKER_14: Oh, she'd be missing them layups.
2:03:54
SPEAKER_14: I'll be watching them.
2:03:54
SPEAKER_14: I'm like, how the fuck do you what are you doing?
2:03:57
SPEAKER_14: Like I think it's just funny to her.
2:03:58
SPEAKER_14: I think she does it on purpose at this point.
2:04:00
SPEAKER_14: I don't see the she could I just did a screenshot.
2:04:04
SPEAKER_14: Angel could definitely be like it didn't make it to my desktop.
2:04:08
SPEAKER_14: Angel could easily average 20 and 10 if she hit half her layups.
2:04:13
SPEAKER_14: She averaged what's she averaging 16, 17, or something like that?
2:04:16
SPEAKER_14: 10.
2:04:17
SPEAKER_16: She can she can definitely rebound.
2:04:18
SPEAKER_16: I'll give it that.
2:04:19
SPEAKER_11: She's bored up, she's boring up.
2:04:21
SPEAKER_14: Bored man.
2:04:22
SPEAKER_11: I just I just saw this.
2:04:24
SPEAKER_11: This is actually pretty incredible.
2:04:27
SPEAKER_16: Okay, 32 most men, three chips, three score titles, two MVPs, three final.
2:04:35
SPEAKER_16: First down, zero game.
2:04:36
SPEAKER_16: See, to me, see, all the other stats are like, all right, we know it's Jordan.
2:04:42
SPEAKER_16: The fact that he played 82 games, yo, is like, hey, today today he you couldn't even do that.
2:04:49
SPEAKER_16: They wouldn't even allow it.
2:04:51
SPEAKER_14: There's motherfuckers been playing 82 games.
2:04:53
SPEAKER_14: That's luck, though.
2:04:54
SPEAKER_14: You can that's luck?
2:04:55
SPEAKER_14: You can that's luck.
2:04:56
SPEAKER_14: Stop it.
2:04:57
SPEAKER_14: No, it's not luck.
2:04:58
SPEAKER_14: It's uh it's it's under the longevity and all this other shit.
2:05:02
SPEAKER_14: Like, again, these are all semantics to discredit people who actually playing the game with two different things.
2:05:09
SPEAKER_14: You're gonna tell me Will Chamberlain wasn't a great player because he didn't play as many 82 game seasons as Jordan.
2:05:14
SPEAKER_14: Will Chamberlain was great.
2:05:16
SPEAKER_14: All those guys.
2:05:20
SPEAKER_16: They played less in that era.
2:05:21
SPEAKER_16: You know, you know Will Chandler never fell out of a game, though?
2:05:24
SPEAKER_16: Think about that shit.
2:05:25
SPEAKER_11: Oh, that's crazy.
2:05:26
SPEAKER_16: How could he fell out of a game?
2:05:31
SPEAKER_14: Somebody had a headphone.
2:05:34
SPEAKER_16: Did they even have fouls in the game back then?
2:05:35
SPEAKER_16: Yeah, they had fouls.
2:05:37
SPEAKER_16: Y'all mess.
2:05:38
SPEAKER_16: Anyways, I gotta run, folks.
2:05:39
SPEAKER_16: I gotta run.
2:05:39
SPEAKER_16: Always a play.
2:05:40
SPEAKER_16: There's your stat.
2:05:41
SPEAKER_16: There's your stat.
2:05:42
SPEAKER_16: There you go.
2:05:42
SPEAKER_16: Look at that.
2:05:44
SPEAKER_16: There's a common theme there.
2:05:45
SPEAKER_16: What's the common theme?
2:05:46
SPEAKER_16: I'm I'm not that smart.
2:05:47
SPEAKER_16: What's the common theme there?
2:05:49
SPEAKER_16: Fever.
2:05:50
SPEAKER_16: CC!
2:05:51
SPEAKER_14: They played New York.
2:05:53
SPEAKER_14: New York is big.
2:05:54
SPEAKER_14: Aces are big.
2:05:55
SPEAKER_14: They want to chip.
2:05:56
SPEAKER_14: I think it's the combined fan base is making these things such big games.
2:06:00
SPEAKER_14: Really, really here.
2:06:02
SPEAKER_11: I guess Indiana.
2:06:04
SPEAKER_11: Indiana travels.
2:06:06
SPEAKER_11: They travel real well to New York.
2:06:08
SPEAKER_16: Who's the A team at the who's number five?
2:06:10
SPEAKER_16: What's the A team?
2:06:11
SPEAKER_16: Atlanta.
2:06:12
SPEAKER_16: I think that's Atlanta, right?
2:06:13
SPEAKER_11: That's Angelisa's team.
2:06:14
SPEAKER_11: Indiana traveled real well.
2:06:15
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, but they, you know, like the bigger games, I don't know.
2:06:18
SPEAKER_14: The Aces are uh they were the uh that's Asia Wilson.
2:06:21
SPEAKER_14: She's the best player in the league.
2:06:23
SPEAKER_14: And New York always draws, you know, I you know INESCU on that team or whatever.
2:06:27
SPEAKER_14: You know what?
2:06:27
SPEAKER_14: You know what?
2:06:28
SPEAKER_11: Next time we next time we do it, the teams that fever played, let's look at their highest uh viewers for teams for teams that didn't play fever.
2:06:37
SPEAKER_11: I understand the impact.
2:06:38
SPEAKER_11: The drop off is gonna be probably a couple million.
2:06:40
SPEAKER_14: The impact of Caitlin Clark is huge because of the fan base that she brings in.
2:06:45
SPEAKER_14: But is it good for the league?
2:06:46
SPEAKER_14: Uh to be determined.
2:06:47
SPEAKER_14: Because the minute the minute she falls off, they had more people at the All-Star game.
2:06:51
SPEAKER_11: Why?
2:06:51
SPEAKER_14: Like, how can it not be?
2:06:53
SPEAKER_14: Again, the minute we're talking about WNBA during football season.
2:06:57
SPEAKER_14: Like, yeah, but fair weather fans, the reason you know why football is so big?
2:07:02
SPEAKER_14: It's because it's a cultural event.
2:07:04
SPEAKER_14: Nobody 90, I would almost say more than half of the people that watch football, and I'll even include myself in that, don't know or give a fuck about any of those people who are under that helmet.
2:07:16
SPEAKER_14: I don't give a fuck about your coaches.
2:07:17
SPEAKER_14: I don't give a fuck about like who's uh fighting pit bulls in the offseason.
2:07:22
SPEAKER_14: I don't give a fuck about none of that shit.
2:07:23
SPEAKER_14: Yeah.
2:07:24
SPEAKER_14: For real, for real.
2:07:25
SPEAKER_14: I just go there because they got some good nachos and wings and shit.
2:07:29
SPEAKER_14: It's an American religion.
2:07:30
SPEAKER_14: Football's an American religion.
2:07:31
SPEAKER_14: And it's on a Sunday, it's a bad, you know, but it's all this stuff happens.
2:07:34
SPEAKER_14: It's yes, it's an institution.
2:07:35
SPEAKER_14: It's a you say religion, it's part of the culture.
2:07:39
SPEAKER_14: That's what it is, a cultural event, right?
2:07:42
SPEAKER_14: And people are drawn to it because of that.
2:07:43
SPEAKER_14: And there's certain characters like the Tom Brady's and the whoever that make it bigger.
2:07:47
SPEAKER_14: Certain plays can transcend the helmet in part.
2:07:49
SPEAKER_14: Exactly.
2:07:50
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, but but again, Caitlin Clark, for the most part, I feel, again, uh-huh, is uh hers, she ascended and is still ascending.
2:08:01
SPEAKER_14: I think she's a great player.
2:08:02
SPEAKER_14: She's the early player, she just got in the league.
2:08:04
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, yeah, she's been in the league for three years.
2:08:06
SPEAKER_14: But she she has to, and this is where what the sentiment is from most people who know WNBA and all that stuff.
2:08:13
SPEAKER_14: What she's doing for the game outside of her immediate fan base is almost next to nothing.
2:08:19
SPEAKER_14: She doesn't speak up for the league as much.
2:08:21
SPEAKER_14: And I think during this all-star game, I'll give her this much credit.
2:08:24
SPEAKER_14: She engaged and it was more for marketing.
2:08:26
SPEAKER_14: You saw those little lesbians with the colorful hair, she gave them a pair of shoes and shit, and they started to run around like little, little, little.
2:08:32
SPEAKER_11: Was those the ones that couldn't get into the club?
2:08:34
SPEAKER_14: Yeah, they was all like, oh, we'll do anything for your shoes.
2:08:37
SPEAKER_14: Remember that?
2:08:38
SPEAKER_11: Did you see that uh Oud last year?
2:08:39
SPEAKER_11: I didn't see that.
2:08:40
SPEAKER_11: Send that to me.
2:08:40
SPEAKER_11: Oh, we never saw that, but oh yeah.
2:08:42
SPEAKER_11: Well, I just said so last year they was in the club and they would they wouldn't, they they the bouncer.
2:08:47
SPEAKER_11: Oh, yeah, they got picked out.
2:08:48
SPEAKER_11: And they was like, yo, we just came up, we just came from the all-star game.
2:08:51
SPEAKER_11: We WNBA, and the dude was like, Who?
2:08:55
SPEAKER_11: Oh, they were players?
2:08:56
SPEAKER_11: Yes, they were players.
2:08:59
SPEAKER_11: They got denied from getting into the club.
2:09:01
SPEAKER_11: Okay, okay, okay.
2:09:02
SPEAKER_11: She said, We just came from the all-star game.
2:09:03
SPEAKER_11: We WNBA.
2:09:04
SPEAKER_11: The dude was like, she done.
2:09:08
SPEAKER_13: It's different now, man.
2:09:09
SPEAKER_13: C C and them are getting an angels getting together.
2:09:11
SPEAKER_11: That wouldn't happen to Cece, so it's not happening.
2:09:15
SPEAKER_11: Anyway, great episode, guys.
2:09:17
SPEAKER_11: I'll see you all next week.
2:09:18
SPEAKER_11: All right, Joe.