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Hour 2: JFK's values. · The Mark Simone Show

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  Speaker 1: The Mark Simone Show continues on 710 WOR.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's hour number two. That's right. If you still
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  Speaker 2: haven't heard, we start at nine o'clock now. Nine to
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  Speaker 2: noon every day. It's a three hour show now. Nine
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  Speaker 2: to noon. We'll get to Dolly Parton coming up. We'll
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  Speaker 2: get to Bruce Blakeman coming up. President Trump wants to
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  Speaker 2: redo the Kennedy Center. It's crumbling inside. It's decaying. It's
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  Speaker 2: falling apart. Naturally, whatever he says, the Democrats, the media,
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  Speaker 2: the media Democrat complex go nuts saying he's crazy. It's fine.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing wrong with the Kennedy Center. Well, they're just saying that.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, he's the expert. He actually is an expert
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  Speaker 2: on this. In fact, when he first got back to
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  Speaker 2: Washington as president and went inside the Kennedy Center, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: really inside, like underneath the into the basement, everywhere. He's
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  Speaker 2: a professional builder. This is what this guy does for
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  Speaker 2: a living. He could see all the problems and it's
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  Speaker 2: literally just crumbling. It's in need of total repair. And
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  Speaker 2: as long as you got one of the greatest builders
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  Speaker 2: in the world in office, good time to fix it
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  Speaker 2: when you got him there because he'll get it done right.
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  Speaker 2: And if government does it, it'll take 15 years. If
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  Speaker 2: he does it, it'll take about 12 weeks and it'll
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  Speaker 2: get done. So the left going crazy, trying to stop it.
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  Speaker 2: And then, you know, he can be a little obnoxious
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  Speaker 2: with the gold all over the walls and his name
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  Speaker 2: on everything. It drives people crazy. It doesn't bother me,
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  Speaker 2: but it drives people crazy. So he wants to put
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  Speaker 2: his name somewhere on the Kennedy Center. It was going
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  Speaker 2: to be the Kennedy Trump Center, and then they went crazy.
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  Speaker 2: And then I think he made it the John F.
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  Speaker 2: Kennedy Center, refurbished by Donald Trump. They don't want his
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  Speaker 2: name on the building. They're going crazy. over that it
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  Speaker 2: makes them absolutely nuts and you know whenever he says
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  Speaker 2: anything you people you media fake news uh democrats you
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  Speaker 2: go nuts you go insane but what you don't know
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  Speaker 2: is when he sees you go nuts and insane he
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  Speaker 2: doubles down he does it more when he sees it's
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  Speaker 2: driving you crazy he does it 12 more times just
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  Speaker 2: to make you nuts but uh the real thing is
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  Speaker 2: uh These Democrats, all these media people today, they really
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  Speaker 2: have no idea who John F. Kennedy was. They know
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  Speaker 2: the name. They don't know anything about him. If they
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  Speaker 2: really knew about Kennedy, they'd want his name off the building.
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  Speaker 2: If they knew that Kennedy stood for exactly everything Trump
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  Speaker 2: stands for. In fact, I could make the case that
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  Speaker 2: Kennedy was much more MAGA, much more conservative than Trump.
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  Speaker 2: And he was in many ways. He was a very
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  Speaker 2: conservative guy. Kennedy was anti-abortion. Trump's not. Kennedy was anti-abortion.
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  Speaker 2: Kennedy was quite the hawk, quite the military intervention sort
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  Speaker 2: of guy. Trump's not, despite Iran. But Kennedy was the
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  Speaker 2: guy that escalated like crazy in Vietnam. Again, he was
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  Speaker 2: very anti-abortion. Kennedy was a big tax cutter. In fact,
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  Speaker 2: it was Kennedy that really showed Reagan what you could
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  Speaker 2: do with those tax cuts, and that's where Trump learned it.
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  Speaker 2: So Kennedy was everything Trump was everything. And then if
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  Speaker 2: you talk about, uh, uh, the Kennedy family, why, uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the yell and scream Trump, how dare he
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  Speaker 2: appoint his lawyer attorney general Kennedy appointed his brother, the
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  Speaker 2: attorney general, his young kid brother was the attorney general. And, uh,
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  Speaker 2: if they, if they ever, ever knew about Joe Kennedy,
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  Speaker 2: Joe Kennedy was like the, the most, uh, deadly, devious fixer, behind-the-scenes,
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  Speaker 2: dirty fixer ever in politics. And when it comes to
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  Speaker 2: rigging elections and stuff, Kennedy was the king of that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: His father, Joe Kennedy, they were amazing at that. You know,
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  Speaker 2: they bought the West Virginia primary. They bought off Chicago.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, had there been a recount, Nixon most likely
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  Speaker 2: would have won in 1960. So if these media Democrats...
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  Speaker 2: If they ever knew about the real John F. Kennedy,
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  Speaker 2: if they ever actually studied it, they'd want his name
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  Speaker 2: off the building too. It would become the Barack Obama
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  Speaker 2: Center for the Performing Arts. So Dolly Parton, what a
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  Speaker 2: great star and beloved by everybody. Nobody anywhere on this
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  Speaker 2: earth can say a bad thing about her. Nobody. She
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  Speaker 2: is a wonderful person.
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  Speaker 3: I've worked hard and I had a lot of dreams.
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  Speaker 3: I've worked not only for myself but for other people.
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  Speaker 3: And it's like now I want to enjoy, really enjoy
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  Speaker 3: the more simple things rather than just going full blast.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and the last few years were tough. Her husband, Carl,
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  Speaker 2: very ill. And she took good care of him. You know,
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  Speaker 2: President Trump, big Dolly Parton fan. And twice he tried
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  Speaker 2: to give her the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Twice he
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  Speaker 2: wanted to do it. One time it was the pandemic,
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  Speaker 2: so they couldn't arrange anything. And the last time he
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  Speaker 2: tried to do it, her husband, Carl, was just too sick.
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  Speaker 2: She didn't want to leave him. Didn't want to leave him.
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  Speaker 2: But also, as I told you before, last hour, she
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  Speaker 2: had this thing about staying the hell away from anything political.
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  Speaker 2: She did not want to be near any president's politicians.
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  Speaker 2: She did not want to be in photographs with them.
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  Speaker 2: She just thought it was, career-wise, it was dumb to
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  Speaker 2: get involved politically, to take a side either way. Stephen Colbert,
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  Speaker 2: are you listening to that? she just thought it was
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  Speaker 2: a stupid thing to do. And she was right. Absolutely right.
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  Speaker 2: And the music at Dolly Parton lives on forever. It
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  Speaker 2: was quite a body of work. Dolly Parton, you know,
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  Speaker 2: she sold 100 million records, 100 million records. And then
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  Speaker 2: of course she built Dollywood, you know, a hundred million
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  Speaker 2: people visited Dollywood and she had an amazing career. Now
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  Speaker 2: people that were around watching TV in the fifties and
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  Speaker 2: sixties and into the seventies, they, often ask, what happened
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  Speaker 2: to the variety show? The variety show was such an
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  Speaker 2: important part of television, 50s and 60s. The Ed Sullivan show,
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  Speaker 2: of course, was a monstrous show. And then all the
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  Speaker 2: great variety shows. Remember the Dean Martin show and the
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  Speaker 2: Perry Como show and the Andy Williams show and the
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  Speaker 2: Carol Burnett show. And these were so important, these variety shows.
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  Speaker 2: And they just died. They tried to keep it going
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  Speaker 2: in the 70s with younger rock and roll types. There
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  Speaker 2: was a Sonny and Cher variety show. There was the
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  Speaker 2: Tony Orlando variety show. Let's not forget the Glen Campbell
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  Speaker 2: show on Sunday nights, Mothers Brothers. The variety show was
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  Speaker 2: such an important part of television. And the variety show
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  Speaker 2: was everything. You'd have a comedian. You'd have a singer.
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  Speaker 2: You'd have a rock and roll band. You'd have a
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  Speaker 2: standard singer. You'd have... You know, you watch Ed Sullivan,
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  Speaker 2: you'd see the Rolling Stones, followed by Jack Jones, followed
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  Speaker 2: by Jackie Vernon. You'd followed by the Bolshoi Ballet, followed
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  Speaker 2: by Soupy Sales. I mean, it was just an incredible.
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  Speaker 3: Format.
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  Speaker 2: And then it died. Now, if you ask all the
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  Speaker 2: TV producers and all the TV executives, what happened? Why'd
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  Speaker 2: you stop doing? A lot of them blame the remote control. Now,
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  Speaker 2: this is hard to believe. But before 1968, most people
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  Speaker 2: didn't have a remote control for their TV. Younger people go, what? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you were sitting over there in that chair. The TV
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  Speaker 2: was over there. If you wanted to change the channel,
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  Speaker 2: you had to get up and walk over the TV.
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  Speaker 2: But then they invented the remote control like around 67, 68.
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  Speaker 2: And then by 69, 70, everybody changed. Everybody had a
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  Speaker 2: new TV and had a remote control. So if you're
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  Speaker 2: watching the variety show and it goes from a ballet
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  Speaker 2: to a comedian, when it's through something you didn't like him,
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  Speaker 2: I used to change the channel. So once that remote
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  Speaker 2: was invented, tougher to do variety. And then, uh, the
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  Speaker 2: problem is the music, everything just splintered up. Uh, and
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  Speaker 2: remember part of the variety shows, you can watch with
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  Speaker 2: your parents. It was something for them, something for you,
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  Speaker 2: but that all changed by the seventies. Everybody's splintered up
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  Speaker 2: into different groups. And by then the kids had their
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  Speaker 2: own TV in their room. I mean, everything had changed.
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  Speaker 2: So the variety show was dead by the eighties. It
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  Speaker 2: was gone. It was gone. Now there was a huge
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  Speaker 2: TV producer, Nick Vanoff. He was a great guy. And
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  Speaker 2: he began as the tonight show producer with Steve Allen.
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  Speaker 2: He produced a lot of the great variety shows, the
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  Speaker 2: Perry Como show, the Hollywood palace. He created that. And
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  Speaker 2: by the late eighties, they were all, there was no
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  Speaker 2: such thing as a variety show, but Nick Vanoff, and
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  Speaker 2: he was a great guy. I used to spend a
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  Speaker 2: lot of time with him. We'd always talk about the
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  Speaker 2: variety shows and he always said, I'm going to bring
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  Speaker 2: them back. I'm going to bring them back. And he
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  Speaker 2: tried in the mid eighties. He would remember the, it
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  Speaker 2: was called the big show and it, it was big.
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  Speaker 2: It had an ice skating rink. It had a swimming pool.
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  Speaker 2: It had a thousand dance lasted about a half a year.
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  Speaker 2: It didn't work. So the last time he tried, Nick
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  Speaker 2: Banoff was a very powerful guy in Hollywood. So nobody
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  Speaker 2: was going to do a variety show, but he convinced
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  Speaker 2: ABC in the late eighties, I think it was 1988.
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  Speaker 2: He convinced him one more time to try the variety show.
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  Speaker 2: And he said he had the perfect star to do it.
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  Speaker 2: Dolly Parton. And they said, hmm. Because she had quite
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  Speaker 2: an appeal to younger people, older people, city slickers, country people.
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  Speaker 2: He said, she's perfect. So it was the last variety
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  Speaker 2: show ever on television. Big budget. ABC. It was done
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  Speaker 2: in Hollywood. Major guest stars every week. The Dolly Parton
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  Speaker 2: variety show. Show, 1988, ABC. She was great on it.
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  Speaker 2: The show was great. No better producer than Nick Vanoff.
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  Speaker 2: And it just bombed. It didn't work. Nobody was going
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  Speaker 2: to watch a variety show anymore. I think it lasted,
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  Speaker 2: was it half a year? I don't even think it
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  Speaker 2: lasted a year. Half a year. And that was it.
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  Speaker 2: That was the final attempt to bring back the variety
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  Speaker 2: show and give Dolly Parton credit for that. You know,
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  Speaker 2: if you listen to the radio now, every station, it's
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  Speaker 2: the same thing with radio. If you went back into
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  Speaker 2: the 60s and you put on the big top 40 station,
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  Speaker 2: if you were listening to Cousin Brucie or Dan Ingram,
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  Speaker 2: they'd play The Beatles, they'd play Tony Bennett, whoever had
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  Speaker 2: a hit record. They'd play a ballad by Frank Sinatra.
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  Speaker 2: If it was a hit record, then they'd play... Led Zeppelin,
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  Speaker 2: whoever had a hit record, it was variety, but there's
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  Speaker 2: no such thing in radio. Now you go down to, uh,
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  Speaker 2: go down the hall there. Light FM plays only this
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  Speaker 2: kind of music. KTU only plays this music. Q104 only plays.
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  Speaker 2: So you still got the same variety. You just got
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  Speaker 2: to change the channel to get it. Some people would
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  Speaker 2: argue it's better this way because now I can control
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  Speaker 2: the mixture. If I want light, I go here. If
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  Speaker 2: I feel like some uptempo, I go here. So, uh,
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  Speaker 2: It's just a different world. Everything's different. And now it's
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  Speaker 2: splintered even more. Now there's streaming. There's 4,000 million different channels.
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  Speaker 2: So when people say to you, hey, have you been
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  Speaker 2: watching Goat's Country? And you go, what? Oh, you got
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  Speaker 2: to watch. They tell you some show you never heard of. Well,
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. Can I just?
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  Speaker 4: No, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: You have to watch from the beginning. It's five seasons.
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  Speaker 2: You got to watch from the beginning. So it's like
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  Speaker 2: 50 hours. I'm not going to watch this. So remember
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  Speaker 2: you all, next day you talk about what you saw
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  Speaker 2: in Seinfeld last night. Now you can't talk to anybody
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  Speaker 2: because they don't know the show you're watching. You don't
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  Speaker 2: know the show they're watching. It's a whole different world. Hey,
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  Speaker 2: Hillary Clinton is up to something. She's speaking at the
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  Speaker 2: Hamptons Institute. I don't know what the hell that is.
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  Speaker 2: Is that in the Hamptons? That's where she belongs, in
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  Speaker 2: the Hamptons, talking to people out of work. The Hamptons
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  Speaker 2: is like one big unemployment office. They're very wealthy, but
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  Speaker 2: nobody does anything all day. And if you're in the Hamptons,
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  Speaker 2: they have a fundraiser, a gala, every Friday night, every Saturday.
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  Speaker 2: It's a big fundraiser for a big, important cause. But
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  Speaker 2: if you study it, every cause is only benefiting them.
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  Speaker 2: It's for the Southampton Arts Center. It's for the Southampton Playhouse.
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  Speaker 2: It's for the Southampton Library. They never raise money for
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  Speaker 2: the Police Athletic League or the Red Cross or the
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  Speaker 2: Salvation Army. It's always just for them. Whatever the money
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  Speaker 2: goes to, it's only benefiting them. But she was speaking
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  Speaker 2: out there about, she was asked about the Democratic Party
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  Speaker 2: and about this crazy socialism. And she kind of shocked
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  Speaker 2: the audience because she didn't denounce it. In fact, she said,
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  Speaker 2: it's a great thing, this socialism. It's an experiment. It's
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  Speaker 2: a way to reach the younger people. She was embracing it.
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  Speaker 2: She was actually saying this was a wonderful experiment and
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  Speaker 2: it's great and we're reaching out this way. Now, why
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  Speaker 2: would she all of a sudden embrace this? She doesn't
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  Speaker 2: like socialist nonsense. She doesn't like this stuff. Well, because
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  Speaker 2: I think she's running in 2028. She thinks she's figured
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  Speaker 2: that I'm not going to be able to get there
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  Speaker 2: without embracing these people. It's too big a part of
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  Speaker 2: the Democratic Party. Now, you're talking about people who want
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  Speaker 2: to get rid of prisons, have no borders, have socialism,
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  Speaker 2: seize wealth, go after wealthy people. The first people they
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  Speaker 2: target would be the Clinton. So she's getting a lot
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  Speaker 2: of flack. Now, some people think she's insane. She's nuts.
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  Speaker 2: I think she's just desperate. She'll just do anything to
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  Speaker 2: get back in the game. And it sounds like she's
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  Speaker 2: running in 2028. And you got to remember she's delusional.
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  Speaker 2: She's not real, not realistic. She's been living alone, like
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  Speaker 2: the woman in sunset Boulevard, just living in this big
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  Speaker 2: house all by herself for eight years, drinking all day.
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  Speaker 2: So she's got, she's out of touch with the world.
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  Speaker 2: Bill Clinton, he's better at keeping in touch with the
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  Speaker 2: real world. She's not, she's totally out of it. All
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  Speaker 2: she does is watch MSNBC. So she, She's thinking nobody
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  Speaker 2: is really in front for 2028. There's no frontrunner. It
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  Speaker 2: could be me. I could make a comeback. She's actually
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  Speaker 2: embracing this socialism. Keep an eye on this. It's just
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  Speaker 2: going to get worse for her. Hey, we'll take some
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  Speaker 2: calls coming up. 800-321-0710 is the number. And don't forget,
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  Speaker 2: it's 9 to noon every day. We start at 9 now.
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  Speaker 1: What's better than two hours of Marc Simone?
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  Speaker 2: Three.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, let's take some calls. 800-321-0710 is the number. Let's
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  Speaker 2: go to Lorraine in Long Island. Lorraine, how you doing?
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  Speaker 5: I'm fine, Mark. I'm doing very well. Just wanted to
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  Speaker 5: repeat again what that gentleman said before. So happy you
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  Speaker 5: are on for an extra hour. You're terrific to listen to.
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  Speaker 5: I learn something every day from you. You're funny and
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  Speaker 5: very smart.
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  Speaker 6: Oh, thanks.
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  Speaker 2: You sound like such a nice person. Why do I
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  Speaker 2: hear birds chirping?
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  Speaker 5: I'm on the beach. I'm sitting on West Hampton Beach.
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  Speaker 2: You are?
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: Are you the only one there?
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  Speaker 4: Just about.
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  Speaker 5: Just the lifeguards just came down. And it's nice and quiet.
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  Speaker 5: And I got here an hour earlier so I could
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  Speaker 5: put you on the radio.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, that's very nice. Let me just explain to people
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  Speaker 2: that don't go to the Hamptons. They don't go to
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  Speaker 2: the beach there. All they do is go to eat.
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  Speaker 2: They go to lunch. They go to dinner. They go shopping.
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  Speaker 5: I know.
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  Speaker 2: They don't even know there's a beach.
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  Speaker 5: Well, West Hampton is a little bit nicer than that
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  Speaker 5: crowd out there. You don't get so many people. people
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  Speaker 5: like that, but just so happy to hear your voice
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  Speaker 5: and it's terrific. Thank you, sir.
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  Speaker 2: And you live in West Hampton?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I live in Moriches Bay. It's two towns over.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, okay. With West Hampton, you got Donahue's just open there.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the great Irish pub is like the Irish
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  Speaker 2: Elaine's that had been on 64th and Lexington for a
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  Speaker 2: million years. They closed and they moved to West Hampton.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, well, I'll have to go. I usually go to
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  Speaker 5: Fauna or Patio. There's a couple of other nice restaurants
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  Speaker 5: right in town. But I will look that up. Did
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  Speaker 5: they just open?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Donahue's East. It's in West Hampton. Go there. And
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  Speaker 2: then you go to the West Hampton Bakery and get
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  Speaker 2: the raspberry croissant. It's phenomenal.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, yes, absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: I love that.
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  Speaker 5: And Goldberg's, the bagel place.
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  Speaker 2: Goldberg's is very big out there now because it's really
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  Speaker 2: the only bagel place, although there is a pop-up bagel place.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, it is. It is. Oh, you're a sweetheart.
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  Speaker 5: You take care, Mark.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Lorraine. Thanks for calling. Great talking to you.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go to Mike in Florida. Mike, how are you doing?
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  Speaker 4: Good morning, Mark.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Mark.
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  Speaker 4: I like your food tourism points that you make when
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  Speaker 4: you have callers from different places. It's really interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Name any place, I'll tell you what to eat there.
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  Speaker 2: But isn't that the best tourism? You don't want to
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  Speaker 2: hear about the zoo or the museum.
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  Speaker 7: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're absolutely right. That's the first thing you want
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  Speaker 4: to do when you get someplace is see what they're eating.
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  Speaker 2: I know. When you talk to somebody that comes to
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  Speaker 2: New York, oh, I love the museums. You're in the
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: museum for an hour out of the whole year.
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 17:28
  Speaker 4: Exactly. Meanwhile, if you go to Katz's, you're there for
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: a couple of hours and you've seen more than you'll
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: see in a museum in a lifetime.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, museums are great, but you go to Paris, Tampa,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: go anywhere and go to the museum, it looks the
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: same everywhere. You're not experiencing local community and flavor. But
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: what do you want to say, Mike?
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, the guy called up earlier about the
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: data centers. And, you know, the same people who were
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: against the data centers, data, data, You know, they were
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: all in on the wind turbines and they're all in
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: on these solar farms that take up thousands of acres
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: of land and create a nuisance to wildlife and so forth.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: You know, they were against the Amazon and Walmart opening
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: in places because they after all, they would create jobs
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: and lower costs for the people that they supposedly care about.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: So it's a little bit ironic and hypocritical, of course,
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: as you always like to point out. that they would
• 18:20
  Speaker 4: be against these data centers as they use their, they
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: live on their phones all day, which do nothing but
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: consume the data that these data centers help produce.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah. You know, they keep saying, well, without the data centers,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: you won't have your phone. I don't know. We didn't
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: have any data centers. My phone's working fine. But I
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: guess with them.
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sorry.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: No, with them, I guess it'll be much faster. You know,
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Apple and other companies are saying they're going to have
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: to create a whole new generation of phones and computers.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: to keep up with the AI stuff. You're going to
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: have to replace everything.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: Well, that's the thing. These phones aren't the phones that
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: we started out with even 10 years ago. They're, you know, they're, they're, they,
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: you know, they're mini computers. They're, I mean, literally they're
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: more powerful than the computers that launched the Apollo project.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: And so you need things to produce, you know, to
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: do all the calculations that they were able to do.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: All right, Mike. Great call. Thanks for calling. Let's go
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: to Don in Colorado. Don, how you doing?
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: Doing great.
• 19:20
  Speaker 7: And I wanted to comment about the radio stations in
• 19:23
  Speaker 7: New York, and I'm a radio junkie and I read
• 19:25
  Speaker 7: the trades. And basically what you said is there's variety,
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: but as the demos age out and new demos come in,
• 19:34
  Speaker 7: you know, and radio's declining but not dead yet.
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: Well, it's actually not declining. Same number of people listen
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: now that listen 20 years ago.
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: I understand.
• 19:44
  Speaker 7: It's far from dead, no doubt about it.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: No, it's actually not even declining. It's actually pretty strong.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: 163 million people listen every day. Sorry, I didn't mean
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: to bring up facts. We don't want any facts.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no problem.
• 19:57
  Speaker 7: I want radio to stay alive.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: It wouldn't be both.
• 20:01
  Speaker 7: But what I'm saying is all the nail casting, all
• 20:03
  Speaker 7: the streaming and all that, and I mean the demos
• 20:06
  Speaker 7: are changing.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: I mean.
• 20:08
  Speaker 7: Light FM, you know, I would welcome back the Light
• 20:12
  Speaker 7: FM of the 1980s than the one that we have
• 20:15
  Speaker 7: now because.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Well, you're obviously an older guy. The old Light FM,
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: it was... Correct. Neil Diamond and Ann Murray and Bread.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: You can't play that stuff.
• 20:23
  Speaker 6: Correct.
• 20:25
  Speaker 7: But, you know, the year-round format, I couldn't care less for.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: You sound out of breath. Is that because you're in Colorado?
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: The air is very thin up there?
• 20:32
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: I just went upstairs, but I wanted to say that
• 20:36
  Speaker 7: The only time I would listen to a light FM
• 20:38
  Speaker 7: is when it goes off.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: You sound like an older guy. You just went up
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: the stairs. You sound like you need a nap already. Yeah. Anyway,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: thanks for calling. The air is very thin out there
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: in Colorado. Yeah, radio actually has the same amount of
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: listeners and the same percentage of the population listening to
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: radio now than 20 years ago, than 40 years ago.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: There's been absolutely no decline in radio listening, unlike... Television,
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: unlike every other medium. But, hey, when we come back,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: the brilliant Steve Forbes will be with us. We'll talk
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: to him about trade war with Canada. We'll talk about
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: lots of stuff. Steve Forbes coming up next on 710WOR.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Live from the WOR Life Facts Studios, the Mark Simone Show.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Well, Steve Forbes, of course, the chairman, editor-in-chief, Forbes Media,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: and best-selling author. You should get his latest book, Inflation.
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: You'll learn a lot from this book. It's an excellent book.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: You can get it at Amazon or wherever you get books.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Steve Forbes, how are you doing?
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: Doing fine, thanks.
• 21:44
  Speaker 7: How are you?
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: I'm good.
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: Enjoy the weather while we can. Yeah.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Hey, Scott Bessett yesterday announced the sanctions on Iran. He
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: announced the intervention in the... I didn't understand one thing
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: he said, did you?
• 21:57
  Speaker 6: Well, on the sanctions against Iran, the president, of course,
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: calls it D-Day, economic version of D-Day. However, big exception,
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: Chinese banks. If you're not going to go after the
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: Chinese banks, then you've just given a whole loophole that's
• 22:15
  Speaker 6: the size of a dump truck. And so I'm afraid, ultimately,
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: even though Secretary of State Marco Rubio says we're not
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: going to use force against Iran... I think ultimately, to
• 22:28
  Speaker 6: get this regime out, we're going to have to go
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: back to what we stopped doing in April. This is
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: an evil regime, and sanctions aren't going to do it.
• 22:37
  Speaker 6: The Pakistanis and the Turks, they say they'll go along,
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: but you know they really won't. We know what the
• 22:43
  Speaker 6: Chinese are going to do. They've been doing it. Fortunately,
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: the United Arab Emirates, the UAE, which has been a
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: big pipeline for the Iranians to the outside world, They
• 22:55
  Speaker 6: say they're going to shut that window to the world,
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: but somehow those windows get rather leaky. So I'm afraid
• 23:04
  Speaker 6: we're going to have to go back to finish what
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: we started in February. Sad but true.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: So this is a battle with Canada. Is it true?
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, Canada needs us economically a lot more than
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: we need them, isn't that the case?
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: No, it's– I don't know how we got into this
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: thing because– We're already in negotiations with Canada and with
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: Mexico on updating the USMCA agreement, the United States-Mexico-Canada agreement
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: that President Trump renegotiated, the old NAFTA thing in his
• 23:40
  Speaker 6: first term, did a pretty good job. And so we're
• 23:43
  Speaker 6: doing the process again and how this thing spun out
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: of control the way it did. I don't know, but
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: I wish we'd stop it because it's not going to
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: help our senatorial candidates in Michigan and Maine having this spat.
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: So hopefully they come quickly to a ceasefire and they
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: go back to the backdoor rooms and negotiate the kind
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: of agreement that the president did in his first term,
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: update these things. Yeah.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: You know, we've never had a billionaire businessman as president.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Usually it's just a politician who behaves like a politician.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: And as you know, Many of these billionaire entrepreneurs, they've
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: got to be doing 50 things at once. They've got
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: to have 27 projects going. So is that the problem
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: here that maybe President Trump needs to reel in some
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: of these? Just focus a little more on a couple
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: of things.
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: Well, as chief executive, he's got to focus in on
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: a couple of things. And on the trade front, he's
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: got plenty of experienced negotiators. But he's right to focus
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: on Iran. We've got a real problem with China. And
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: the other thing that he's going to eventually have to
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: get involved with is the Federal Reserve. As you know,
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: they're having a big hoo-ha. The Fed and poobahs around
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: the world, financial poobahs and central bank biggies come together
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: in Jackson Hole, Wyoming, beautiful part of the country at
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: this time of year. No coincidence they would do that.
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: And he's giving a speech, Kevin Warsh, the head of
• 25:15
  Speaker 6: the Federal Reserve, to these eminences on Friday. And I
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: hope he uses the occasion to announce that we're no
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: longer going to buy into the idea that the way
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: you fight inflation is by raising interest rates and depressing
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: the economy. The way you fight inflation is stop devaluing
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: the value of the dollar. And also make clear that
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: if we have disruptions from oil prices or whatever, a war,
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: which may send prices up for a while, raising interest
• 25:45
  Speaker 6: rates is not the way you respond. So focus on
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: a stable value for the dollar. And if he does that,
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: I think it's going to be, in that world, an
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: earthquake and ultimately going to help us and the world.
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: Stability is what we want, not these crazy things of, oh,
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: we must depress the economy because people are starting to
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: do well.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: It's insane things.
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: For normal people to think that's what motivates these people.
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: It is really bizarre. And Steve Forbes, you literally wrote
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: the book on this. If you want the best book
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: on the subject, get his book, Inflation. You can go
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: order it right now. Hey, this DSA movement, the socialist nonsense,
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: even the ultimate weathervane, Hillary Clinton, was jumping on the
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: bandwagon yesterday. Where is this movement going?
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: What it's doing is, I almost think they're secretly working
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: for the Republican Party. You saw that interview with Jesse
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: Waters and Dr. El-Said, the Democratic socialist communist candidate for
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: Senate in Michigan. And what a bizarro bunch of answers
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: that guy gave. And people want prosperity. People want stable prices.
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: They don't want... I can't believe we're discussing issues like
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: should men play in women's sports?
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: Come on.
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: And circumcision, I mean, that just is weirdo. But anyway,
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: it's amazing. You'd think socialism and communism after the horrors
• 27:18
  Speaker 6: of the last century. But they're like bad ideas, Mark,
• 27:22
  Speaker 6: are like Hollywood movies. The monsters keep coming back from
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: the swamp in new disguises to terrorize us. So the
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: monster's back again from the swamp. We're going to have
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: to fight it again.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Hey, Steve Forbes, reassure us again. You did this a
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: couple of times. AI, you know, everybody's trying to gin
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: up this AI panic, fear, the data centers, the AI.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: It's going to take over, kill us all. What's the reason?
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: What should we really be feeling about AI?
• 27:52
  Speaker 6: AI is potentially, and is already having real effects, a
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: fantastic tool if used right. Like anything, if you misuse it,
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: bad things are going to happen. But use it right,
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: it's fantastic. And you're starting to see it in some
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: of the things they're doing in healthcare, both in being
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: able to determine what medicine might work for you that
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: would be a disaster for me. And there was a
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: case a few months back. I won't get technical on
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: it because I'm not a doctor, but a baby was
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: born with a very, very rare genetic disorder. They were able,
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: thanks to AI, to find what they call the genetic letter,
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: deal with that letter, and the baby is alive, who
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: would have normally been doomed. So there's some fantastic things
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: coming along. in terms of making drugs faster, in terms
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: of making them more effective. And so I'm at an
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: age where I think that's splendid.
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: I want more of that. Hey, but people were afraid
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: in 2000 of the digital stuff, the computers taken over the,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: there was fear then. And you, explain that again. You
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: pointed out when electricity was invented, there was panic over it.
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: Yes. And there was fear that electricity could be used
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: to turn and inanimate objects into a living thing. So
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: you had these medical students get cadavers, give it a
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: jolt of electricity, and see it bounce around. And they thought, oh,
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: my goodness, we could bring people back from the dead.
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: And it led to a great novel called Frankenstein. Electricity
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: could create these monsters. Well, it didn't. Great entertainment came
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: from it. but Frankenstein didn't take over the world that's.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: Such a great story that's an amazing point so relevant
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: today but Steve Forbes great stuff as always make sure
• 29:52
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• 29:54
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• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Thanks for being with us. Thank you, Mark.
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: Keep up the good fight.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: We need it these days. All right. Thanks. Take care.
• 30:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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