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From Donor Lodge to Demolition Site: Interlochen’s Epstein Problem (5/28/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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  Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
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  Epstein Chronicles. Jeffrey Epstein had a lot of ties to academia,
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  and most of those ties had to do with higher learning,
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  whether it was Harvard, whether it was Yale, Columbia, you
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  name it. But Epstein also had access to places like Interlogan,
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  which is a center for the arts in Michigan, and
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  the lodge there. Well, that lodge was donated by none
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  other than Jeffrey Epstein. And if that's not bad enough,
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  he had access to that lodge for multiple weeks a year.
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  Now that said, I'm not going to sit here and
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  tell you that Epstein was up there and using that
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  as a fertile hunting round for a lot of the
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  girls that he was abusing. But the fact that he
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  had that lodge there and the access alone certainly opens
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  up the conversation about who and how many people were
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  abused in Michigan. And when all of this stuff first
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  started coming out seven years ago, that's when Interlochan should
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  have got rid of this lodge, But they waited until
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  now when the pressure was really on, and finally they're
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  going to do the right thing and get rid of it.
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  You want to put another lodge up. Cool, do that,
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  but anything that's been corroded by this scumbag should be
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  destroyed and scattered in the wind. I'm sure there's another
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  donor somewhere that would love to build a new lodge.
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  Today's article is from twelve News ABC and the headline
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  Interlocan to demolish lodge tied to Jeffrey Epstein. This article
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  was authored by Lisa Giles. Interlocan Center for the Arts
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  is moving forward with a plan to demolish Green Lake Lodge,
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  which was funded by Jeffrey Epstein. Epstein attended Interlogan in
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  the summer of nineteen sixty seven and was a donor
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  to Interlogan Center for the Arts from nineteen ninety to
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  two thousand and three. The cabin, originally named the Epstein Lodge,
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  was owned by Interlogan, and money from renting the lodge
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  benefited scholarships for students at the camp. And look, I'm
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  not saying that there shouldn't be a lodge there. Most
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  certainly should, but somebody else should build it. I'm pretty
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  sure every parent in the country that's not named Dubin
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  wouldn't want their kid out of a camp or a
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  Lodge that was funded in any way whatsoever by Jeffrey Epstein.
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  The Interlogan Board of trustees recently approved a plan to
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  remove the building. The cabin named after Epstein was renamed
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  Green Lake Lodge. Officials with Interlogan posted the following statement
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  on the Fine Arts Camp website. And look, it's the
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  right move. And I know it's kind of performative. I
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  get that it's not the building's fault itself, but it's
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  the message that it sends. And I think tearing it
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  down also sends a message, and that message is this
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  is no longer in the shadows. We know it, you
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  know it, Everyone knows it. Jeffrey Epstein attended Interlocan Arts
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  Camp in the summer of nineteen sixty seven. He was
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  a donor to Interlocan for the Arts from nineteen ninety
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  to two thousand and three. In two thousand and nine,
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  when Interlocan learned of his first criminal conviction from two
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  thousand and eight, the administration conducted an internal review of
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  our records, removed any recognition of Epstein as a donor
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  from our campus, which included renaming the Green Lake Lodge,
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  and importantly cut all ties with him. When Epstein was
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  arrested again in twenty nineteen, Interlocan conducted a second internal review.
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  Both reviews found no reports of misconduct at Interlogan involving
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  Epstein in our records. Well, that doesn't mean it didn't happen.
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  How many times have we seen people not report it?
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  How many times have people decided that coming forward isn't
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  going to help them? So I don't really go by
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  what the records say because I don't think that those
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  records tell the whole story. While the internal review focused
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  on whether any concerns had been reported or known to Interlogan,
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  we are aware of information that has emerged publicly by
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  two individuals who share that they met Epstein through Interlocan
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  in the nineteen nineties. We have invited the individuals who
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  may have been impacted by Epstein to speak with an
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  independent investigator as part of an external investigation into reports
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  of historical misconduct at Interlochan Arts Academy. Nothing like an
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  internal review. Let us investigate ourselves, because that always works
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  out great, That never ends in disaster, That never advances
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  the cover up. We have fully cooperated with requests from
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  the government agencies, and many of the files recently released
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  by the US Department of Justice. Were documents we previously
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  provided to the authorities well after we let Jeffrey Epstein
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  have a lodge on our campus, after we were put
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  on blast, after people started looking into us. Yeah, of course,
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  it's like somebody like Brian Kolberger finding God behind bars.
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  Here's an idea, dumbass, find God before you murder people.
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  The Interlogan Board of Trustees has approved a plan to
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  raise Green Lake Lodge. The lodge has over time come
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  to carry associations that are not reflective of who we
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  are as an institution or the values we strive to uphold.
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  After careful consideration, the board determined that removing this structure
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  in a safe and timely manner is the right step
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  for Interlogan at this time. The safety and well being
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  of our students will always be our highest priority. We
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  currently have a wide range of measures in place to
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  provide a safe and supportive environment for all students. We
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  routinely review our policies and procedures related to the protection
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  of miners and campus safety to continue to evolve to
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  ensure we remain current with effective practices. A little too
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  late for my liking, were all of these internal guidelines previously.
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  And again, let's not act like they didn't know what
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  Epstein was up to. Everybody knew, at the very least suspected.
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  And now it's one thing if you're some kind of
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  scumbag banker. It's a whole last other thing if you
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  represent a school and then you're associating with Epstein, Yeah,
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  I got a problem with that. Classified files connected to
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  Jeffrey Epstein were released in December of twenty twenty five
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  by the Department of Justice and provided new insight on
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  the ties Epstein had to Northern Michigan. It was at
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  the music camp that Epstein met his first victim, a
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  thirteen year old student. According to the DOJ, Wait a minute,
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  I was told that Jeffrey Epstein wasn't abusing anybody that
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  was thirteen. I thought it was one seventeen year old
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  girl who was a week away from being eighteen. Isn't
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  that what Alan Dershowitz told us. Isn't that what that
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  Michael Tracy clown told us. Oh, they were wrong or
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  they were lying. I'll let you decide. According to the
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  court documents that are now public, Epstein and Maxwell met
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  their first victim at a summer camp located in Grand
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  Traverse County in nineteen ninety four. The girl, who was
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  originally from California, met the sex offenders at Interlogan Arts
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  camp when she was thirteen years old. Imagine sending your
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  kid to some art camp at thirteen years old and
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  Maxwell and Epstein are there. I can't imagine a much
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  more horrific situation for a kid to be in, And
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  in my opinion, Interlocan shares a whole lot of that blame.
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  If I'm sending my kid to your campus, I expect
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  at least some form of safety, right at the very least,
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  I expect you to keep them away from diddlers. The
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  documents say that the victim was on a bench alone
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  when she was approached by them, bragging about giving scholarships
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  to young kids in the arts. The documents say the
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  girl was subsequently abused by Epstein and Maxwell for years
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  as a young girl, suffering physical and psychological trauma and distress. Well,
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  which is it, Did that happen or did it happen?
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  Because according to Donald Trump and his buddies, it's all
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  a hoax. And boy, I've never seen a hoax with
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  this much evidence. Pretty wild the same people that'll tell
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  you that this is a hoax are also the same
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  people that are running around telling you how transparent that
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  the administration is and that you should believe them and
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  not your own eyes. Despite that, the file say the
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  victim has preserved and survived to tell her story, to
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  hold her perpetrators accountable, and to seek justice. And that's
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  exactly what she did at the Maxwell trial when her
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  testimony helps send Glenn Maxwell to prison for twenty years.
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  But I guess she was lying. I guess it was
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  all just a big joke and a big hoax. Meanwhile,
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  we have documents coming in on a daily basis that
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  absolutely destroy that narrative literally, and there's still people out
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  here that are buying the bullshit that it's all made up,
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  it's all a hoax, and that everybody should just ignore
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  all the evidence pointing in a different direction. But no
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  matter what the evidence says, they're gonna continue to gaslight you.
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  They're gonna tell you that it's all bs, that this
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  is over and done with, and that it's time to
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  move on. Like that editorial in the New York Post
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  talk about a bunch of nonsense like Thomas Massey is
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  the be all end all of what's going on with Epstein.
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  In my opinion, Thomas Massey was just a useful tool.
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  That's it, nothing more. Open the door. I don't trust
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  any of these politicians. I don't know how many more
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  times I have to say it, Like, if people want
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  to get out here and trust these people and you know,
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  swoon and saint when they come into a room, hey
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  go for it. I'm not telling anybody how to live
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  their lives, but what I will tell you is this,
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  don't be fooled, don't be dog walked by these people,
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  and don't think they care about you, None of them.
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  And it doesn't matter if it's Republican or Democrat. They
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  all despise you. The only time you matter is when
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  it's election season. Besides that, you can go get screwed.
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  They don't care one way or the other. And as
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  long as all of us are fighting and arguing all
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  the time, then they're never going to be held accountable.
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  And that, of course, is part of the plan. And
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  that's why they flooded the zone with a lot of
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  disinformation in the Epstein files to try and make the
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  whole thing look like a bunch of bs and Unfortunately,
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  they've been pretty successful. There's a lot of people out
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  there that totally by the narrative that's been spun by
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  Donald Trump and his friends, And at this point, I
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  don't think any evidence whatsoever is going to change their minds,
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  but them ignoring reality doesn't change reality. And the reality
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  is this whole last thing is a giant cover up,
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  and anybody telling you to move on, well, they're a
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  part of that cover up. All the information that goes
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  with this episode can be found in the description box.