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Todd Callender: The Globalist Traitors Will be Tried & HANGED... 2024 Everything Changes · Man in America Podcast

• 1:33
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Wilhaus. A poll just came out, which is somehow positive about the political situation here in America. And the poll, which is a New York Times poll, of all places, is saying that Trump is ahead over Biden in five of the six battleground states. And it's just interesting to look at this, especially coming from the New York Times, and ask the questions of, a, why are they publishing this?
• 2:08
  But, also, how does this tie into the deep state's plan for 2024? Is it the precursor to getting rid of Biden and bringing in Michelle Obama or Gavin Newsom? Is it something else? Or is it that they're losing control? And maybe there's actually not just, you know, five or six battleground states, it may be, you know, 48 of 50 states, the same thing's happening.
• 2:34
  And it makes me think of a lot of different questions of of what is going to happen in 2024. And so joining me today is my very good friend, Todd Callender. And we're gonna get into a a very interesting interview about what the next twelve months looks like, but also some of Todd's perspective on why he's seeing absolutely without a doubt that the deep state is in its final days and why he thinks over the next, say, six to twelve to eighteen months, that we, the people will seize control and why he ultimately believes that there will be trials and hangings of the traders that have betrayed America and betrayed we the people, and also those that have trade betrayed their own countries and people around the world. So this is actually a very positive interview. So I hope that you're looking forward to hearing this.
• 3:35
  I hope you enjoy it. As you know, with Todd, it's always a fun time. And and also, it's funny because I see different sometimes I see comments that say, Seth, you ask way too many questions. You talk too much. I've never heard that growing up throughout school, of course.
• 3:49
  But I also see people that are saying, Seth, you're not talking enough. You need to ask more questions. And so I'll let you know ahead of time that the interview with Todd Callender, and in general, whenever I have him on, it's much more of a back and forth. It's not me with a set of of questions interviewing Todd Callender. It's me almost sitting down with him around a fire, a campfire, going back and forth and talking about what we're seeing and what we expect.
• 4:14
  And he does a great job as a guest, making a point, but then pausing and letting me jump in. So this is much more of a back and forth dialogue. And so I hope you enjoy it. So folks, please enjoy this interview with my good friend, Todd Callender. Todd, it is so great to have you back on as usual.
• 4:32
  How's it going?
• 4:34
  Todd Callender: Really good, actually. There's lots to celebrate, Seth. Many things. And I'm happy to be here. I love chatting with you.
• 4:41
  It's just an opportunity for two pals to have a chat. We're just missing the campfire.
• 4:46
  Seth Holehouse: We'll get there. We'll get there. There you go. So and as I was mentioning before we started recording, it's I enjoy speaking with you because, you know, you and I can look at a situation happening. Like, say, we're gonna be talking about a lot of things, but more specifically, the twenty twenty four election, the polls that have come out.
• 5:07
  We so we can look at this information, and then we can extrapolate and we can say, what if? Right? So even looking at the October 4 EBS, we can look at the information and say, well, what could this mean? And I think that we're both very careful in saying that this is going to happen or that there's a disaster that will happen. We're saying, look, here's what all the information tells us.
• 5:29
  And these include some conclusions that we've drawn, and this is the process that we've gone through. And it's this day and age when there's a million different narratives, and there's so much happening. It's just nice to have a good friend to sit down with and analyze what's happening in the world. And so I I appreciate you coming on and doing that.
• 5:49
  Todd Callender: Well, likewise, there are so many permutations, so many possibilities, moving parts. And it it I think it's really helpful, Seth, because we can parse all of this and then hopefully draw some conclusions that will guide our behavior going forward and you're absolutely right vis a vis EBS. We do our little best to provide people the information to draw their own conclusions and document those kinds of things EBS included. All we can do is tell people what it is we know, what it is that we're seeing and what our concerns are going forward. What actually happens is a different matter entirely sometimes, even as it relates to, we were talking about, you know, Iran and whether or not they would launch a nuke or not.
• 6:34
  When the Ukrainians were shelling Chernobyl, you know, seemingly trying to start a nuclear incident, you know, all of those kinds of things are are permutations that are are happening. And yet, the cool part, we're still here. We're still talking. Nobody's nobody's destroyed the planet or humanity yet.
• 6:56
  Seth Holehouse: And that's the good news. It is. So I know that, you know, obviously, you're an attorney, and you understand lawfare exceptionally well. And if you look at where we're heading into with the election in 2024, which I would say arguably could be the most important election in the history of America. I would say that almost in
• 7:20
  Todd Callender: That's world event.
• 7:22
  Seth Holehouse: It is. And so but also looking at how they've weaponized the legal system against Trump and understanding how that all works. But as much as they've done that, and they've continued to blast him and and use the the mainstream Mockingbird media to put this narrative out that he's a criminal, that he's defrauded people, and he thinks the public is now seeing through it in ways that Yes. That we could never imagine. And I'll bring up this, of all places, this New York Times article, which I don't trust
• 7:54
  Todd Callender: New York
• 7:55
  Seth Holehouse: Times, but it's interesting when they run a story like this, which is Trump leads in five critical states as voters blast Biden, a Times Sienna poll found or fined.
• 8:08
  Todd Callender: So Yeah.
• 8:09
  Seth Holehouse: This is a New York Times poll done with Sienna, which I'm sure is a research group, where they're saying that in five of the six battleground states that determine who who by and large wins the election, that Trump is leading and that not as the only thing leading, voters are blasting Biden. So this is interesting. I wanna see what you how you make sense of this because we know that the New York Times is is absolutely part of that cabal control, you know, mockingbirds, CIA apparatus that is, you know, really, you know, kind of working to help destroy, you know, humankind at all at all cost. But for them to admit this, this is only gonna make it more difficult to steal an election if even the New York Times because in 2020 saw the opposite, you know, heading into 2020, all the New York Times would have been, you know, Trump is barely this and Biden is leading because they're they're building the narrative. But how do you make sense of this?
• 9:09
  And and what do you think evolves into 2024?
• 9:15
  Todd Callender: I think the emperor has no clothes. And so I think the threshold question is why would we even be concerned about an election? Why would the the owners be concerned about an election? And heretofore, they haven't been because they controlled both sides in one respect or another in every country around the world. It was always a hedged bet no matter what the case is.
• 9:40
  In this circumstance, And I think one of the reasons why we're seeing all these attempts to cause wars, cause harm, whether that's the EBS or whether that's another pandemic or whether they're simply threats of those things. It is designed to have people lose interest in what it is that we seek and we seek a leader. Humanity requires, a leader. That's just how it is we're wired. And the reality is that our system is demanding it.
• 10:11
  Our system being the people who etched out a piece of land, planted their flags and said, this is our country with or without the government. The people of America are saying, we want this. And so I think it's coming to the point where the other side now has to confront the reality that even if they find an excuse to suspend the election or not to have one or to throw Mr. Trump in jail, which is what they're trying to do, people don't care that the government and the apparatus itself is invalidating itself. They've gone a bridge too far and you cannot govern without the consent of the governed.
• 10:49
  They've gone too far. And so now I think what it is you're saying is a election and a reconciliation. Okay, well, maybe he's ahead in these states and they'll figure out one way or another to try and change the public perception in a way to mitigate the damages. They're now in damage control because I think they realize that when this man takes over, whether that's the corporation of The United States Of America or The Republic or any other feature, there's going to be a reconciliation and they're seeing it. And by the way, think you saw Bill Maher's show now you've got the people behind the lockdown, so people who everybody's got to get a shot and how dare you now these people are backing away saying oh well maybe we really need to have some consideration let's have was it, I can't remember the word that he actually said, but effectively is let let us get away with it.
• 11:43
  So I think that's what we're seeing here is it's so overwhelming. Even the New York Times has to say, well, he is leading in a certain way. That's good news, man.
• 11:53
  Seth Holehouse: Well and so what's interesting so here's a Gateway Pundit article where the former Obama, they say henchmen. Right? David David Axelrod.
• 12:01
  Todd Callender: That's the man.
• 12:02
  Seth Holehouse: Sends message strongly suggesting Joe Biden drop out after a recent poll brings devastating news to the Democratic Party. Yeah. And so it's now look, I don't wanna be one of those people, especially in in, you say, the the truth movement or people that are searching for truth that, has that perspective that oh, it's always controlled and the cabal is always controlling everything and they all they want this to happen. They want Joe Biden to be is because they've got this backup plan. But I also want to look at what would their backup plan be.
• 12:37
  And so if a key Obama person is coming out and saying that Biden should drop out, do you think that there is actually some sort of nefarious coordination between publishing this poll, showing that Trump is is leading, and maybe using that as a way to get the the left to fear Trump and to fear him coming in to then bring in a new candidate, whether it's Gavin Newsom or Michelle Obama. What do you think might be the the play?
• 13:05
  Todd Callender: Yeah. I think you nailed it exactly. That's precisely the point. They they've got a, you know, a guy who can't string together a full sentence. And I saw, even that I can't remember.
• 13:16
  Was it New York Times admitted that Obama's been advising the White House for at least five months on matters of public importance? Well, of course they were. They're having confront the fact that the emperor has no clothes. So absolutely, positively, they must. Right?
• 13:31
  They don't really have a choice in this because at the end of the day, Seth, what it is the owners and the other side did and you might as well throw the commercial media into this mix. They conspired to destroy humanity. Conspired to destroy our country, including the declaration of North America. There are so many crimes, the enterprise is so vast, that they are now in damage control. I think they understand that it's not just going to go away.
• 13:58
  They aren't just gonna win this. That that even if for some reason they were able to stop the election, we're not changing our minds. We're not going away. We know who they are, and we know what they're doing. That's a problem for them.
• 14:10
  Seth Holehouse: Big thought here. One is that they said, like Michelle or Newsome, and they really try to spin the whole thing around that new candidate. Or three, they don't even allow the election to happen. So whether it's the active is the activation of terrorist cells The United States, whether it is a Marburg virus, whether there's some sort of civil war they help create that ends up in, you know, ends up in martial law. Yeah.
• 14:39
  So what do you see as the most probable outcome for how they make sure or how they attempt to make sure they don't lose power in America?
• 14:54
  Todd Callender: Yeah. Well, it it does boil down to to martial law. So long as they've got the ability to have their military and people in uniform, badges and guns included, respond to their orders. But that's diminishing. It was Romania after, the fall of Soviet Union, if memory serves what's the president's name?
• 15:17
  Chiescu, I think was his name. He's giving a speech in front of his congregation, his congregation in front of his constituents, his people, and two hours later he's behind the Presidential Palace getting a bullet button in his head. I think they understand that they are in that very same situation, that they've already gone a bridge too far. If they keep pushing, then you know their own apparatus will turn against them because they're going to see how this rolls. I think that drives us towards what it is we've been concerned about the whole time, which is a public health emergency of international concern.
• 15:51
  We're already in one. Militarized medical martial law is already here. The question is, what will they do with it? What human rights will they further suspend? What constitutional rights will they suspend?
• 16:02
  They've already given themselves the power to do that. So technically, under martial law at this very moment. The question is what will they do with it? How far can they go? What can they get away with it?
• 16:12
  And this is kind of the joke I was mentioning to you before in so much that we did the research even on Jack Smith and and the judge in relation to the criminal trial, the criminal prosecution that's happening to mister Trump. None of those people are lawfully serving and when we've foiled the council's oath of office, the Department of Justice themselves came back to us. Office of Inspector General came back to us and said, well, that we have two oaths, both of which are defective. We should probably do something about that. So even the bureau, right?
• 16:51
  The Department of Justice themselves is recognizing that this is a fiction. This is a fraud. So we have this reconciliation, what's going to happen and the judge too, by the way, I don't know if the DOJ knows it, but the judges of the law is defective. People are starting to see the reality that all of this is a show and what will come of it. I think they have no choice, but to to double down on what it is because they are going to be prosecuted.
• 17:17
  They're going to be tried in the hung set. It's only a function of if not if, but when and how.
• 17:24
  Seth Holehouse: So so Jack Smith, right, who's Yeah. He's he's prosecuting. Right? Yeah. So the DOJ even responded to your information request and came back and confirmed that Jack Smith does not have a valid oath of office.
• 17:45
  Todd Callender: Yes. That's what I'm telling you. And and it wasn't it was the the office of the inspector general. That's the watchdog of the Department of justice. They admitted that the two they had on file were defective and they even wrote, we should probably go and get a new one.
• 18:02
  That would be three bites of the apple. I haven't heard back whether they did, but if he hasn't done it before twice, then what makes us think there's going to be a third time? This and as you read through the law on this, it's very clear that if he's not properly appointed, then he cannot fulfill that position. And by the way, the guy who appointed him, which is the attorney general also has an effective oath of office. He doesn't even have a date of appointment on his oath of office.
• 18:30
  And by the way, it's not notarized, it's not sworn. So the entire apparatus is falling apart. As people in that apparatus, as the people with badges and guns actually catch on to this and go, wait a minute, they're issuing illegal orders. I can't do illegal orders. I took my oath.
• 18:48
  Where's their oath? Why won't they? This is the question I want to know Seth. Why won't they actually do a real oath of office? I want that question answered.
• 18:57
  Let's put them on the stand. Let's ask them. Let's ask the special counsel. How come you don't have a valid oath of office? Is there a reason you don't want to swear this?
• 19:04
  I mean, know what the answer to that question is, but the reality is, that they can't afford the facade anymore. It's falling apart as the people with badges and guns the people that with the responsibility to enforce the laws take notice of it and all law is local and without law enforcement, there is no law so at some point I think the risk is there's an. With or without the Democrats with or without the White House in in November 2024 and if they say, well, we're having martial law. The question is whether or not the military, the people in uniform, badges, and guns will enforce their laws and their edicts And the answer to that question is no. The jig is up.
• 19:49
  People are now aware of it. Thanks in no small part to you by the way. I mean that sincerely, you and all the other people out there in the alternative media, as they call it, have done a magnificent, a masterful job of bringing this kind of awareness. Absolutely amazing.
• 20:06
  Seth Holehouse: Thank you. And it's guests like you that make it easier to do and create
• 20:10
  Todd Callender: Just fun for me.
• 20:11
  Seth Holehouse: Shows that spread. Folks, have a quick message for you. Look, the twenty twenty four election is do or die for the globalist and communists that have infiltrated our country and are currently running it. And they either have to win or they're gonna destroy America so nothing is left either way. And if you're the person that's watching this show and following this information, unfortunately, you have the weight on your shoulders of making sure that your family is prepared, as we head in to this next year in this next election cycle.
• 20:40
  Because unfortunately, I think it's gonna get rough. And one of the ways I know they're going to target us is through our food supply. You can see all the food factories burned down. You can see the warnings of coming famines and food shortages and everything like that. And food is one of the number one ways totalitarian regimes have always used to control the populations destroy the food supply.
• 20:59
  So if you don't have at least two, three, four, five, six months worth of stored food, I highly recommend you take that very seriously. Because look, as I mentioned, if you're the person that's watching this, you're the person that carries the burden of making sure your family is prepared. I would recommend at least six months, if not a year of storable food. So if things go haywire, whether it's grid down or terrorist attack from what's coming across the border, that your family can safely stay in place and you can feed your family. So folks today, go to heavensharvest.com and make sure you get your storeable food that'll last for up to twenty five years.
• 21:34
  Just in case things go south, you know that you have what's gonna take to feed your family, which is so so critical for us to get through this next stage of history. So go to heavensharvest.com today, order your food that'll last up to twenty five years, and use promo code Seth to save 15% on your entire order. Again, that's heavensharvest.com and use promo code Seth, s e t h, to save 15% on your entire order. So when you said that and and you almost you kind of corrected yourself in saying that this will happen, that these traders of the The United States, these traders of of humankind will be tried and hung. What gives you that confidence, and how do you see that playing out?
• 22:18
  Because right now, you look around, it just seems like they that the cabal is running everything, the court systems
• 22:23
  Todd Callender: and Everything.
• 22:23
  Seth Holehouse: Etcetera. I mean, they're not running me. They're not running you, which is good. But when you say that these traders will be tried and hung, walk us through the the how and why of how that could even happen.
• 22:36
  Todd Callender: Well, there are so many things happening that that give me that belief. So for instance, there's a a case happening in Costa Rica next week. We're going to live stream it on CloutHub by the way, people want to look at it. It's a real case in a real country, meaning that Costa Rica is a UN member nation and their courts are recognized as such they have mutual legal assistance treaties and they are a member nation to multilateral treaties including UN conventions. When a court proceeding, an official court proceeding in Costa Rica happens, then other member nations must grant what is called COMITY, meaning they recognize it no different than they recognize it as a sovereign under their various agreements.
• 23:21
  They must recognize the results of this. So this is a big deal because this is not some court made up, this isn't just a bunch of people that want to have a grand jury and eventually get to it, this is a real deal and this is happening and they haven't been able to stop it. Likewise, you look at the Hegelian dialectic happening in Israel, you know the IDF stood down for seven hours. Unfortunately, lots of people were killed and kidnapped, but the non sequitur of the the military not fighting, leaving the border open, turning the cameras off, disarming your reserve members three months in advance. This kind of preparatory work shows that there was a plan in this and what you're seeing now is other nations opting out.
• 24:04
  They're like we're not going to have a part of it. The goal was to get Iran to launch a nuke or to get involved. You know what they've done is they haven't gotten involved. You got four aircraft carrier battle groups in the Mediterranean and talk about a concentration risk and then there's really nobody to shoot at yet and I don't know that it'll happen. So what I'm trying to say to you is that they're not able to stop this.
• 24:26
  This juggernaut is happening. Humanity is now conscious of what's happening. You can't put the genie back in the bottle. There is only one thing that can happen and that is a reconciliation. And that reconciliation is going to happen, by holding people accountable.
• 24:44
  The masses, if they have to have pitchforks and torches, that's what's going to happen one way or another.
• 24:51
  Seth Holehouse: And do you see a lot of this playing out in 2024 or over the next couple of years? I mean, you think next year is gonna be I see. So you think No.
• 25:01
  Todd Callender: If if not sooner. This is happening right now. Because the other part is that people are finally starting to understand that they've been poisoned and that it was their governments that did this to them and worse that they poisoned their children. There has to be a consequence to that and it's coming. So, as you have an official court make official findings of fact, which is which has been waylaid.
• 25:27
  It's been stymied here here to for in every jurisdiction. This is actually happening in Pascal Najadi. He's a guy we both know, is openly saying, let's go after the WHO and the WEF in Switzerland. What's happened is no pushback, no fallout for him or anything else. That means that in the public mind, they're not rejecting this information.
• 25:49
  Our public is not rejecting it now. It's, let's consider what he's saying and what must happen as a result of that. I don't think there's any going back on this, Seth. This will happen And so long as we have people like yourself, we have people in positions in the government or governments as the case may be, who have their finger on that button, the five gs button or the nuclear launch button or whatever it else it is, those people understanding that they've been set up, and that it's their personal responsibility to take care of humanity and frustrate the mission to destroy us. That's what's at hand.
• 26:30
  Seth Holehouse: So it's it's interesting, you know, hearing these words coming and just putting together this narrative that that paints this picture because you're you're right. It it does give you this sense that if you step back and you look at it, this sense that even though we're up against this very, very powerful criminal enterprise that's been controlling the world for probably thousands of years
• 26:58
  Todd Callender: Thousands of years.
• 26:58
  Seth Holehouse: That we're at the inflection point, where there's enough of them, we have the technology to communicate, we have the technology to break the spell that they've put all of us are there for generations and generations. And that they're in their endgame. They're not God, though they think that they are. They're not the ultimate rulers. They're just weak humans that have gained power generationally and gained wealth through criminal evil activities, and that their time is truly coming to an end.
• 27:34
  I I feel that. I really do. I really feel that in my soul that that's the time that we're at.
• 27:40
  Todd Callender: I feel it too. I think you're exactly right. And the interesting part is that, out of all the things in their playbook, you know, plague or, you know, starvation, cutting off fuel supply, food supply, whatever. None of them have worked. They don't have anything left in their playbook other than comet coming out of the clear blue sky and destroying the planet.
• 28:07
  That's it. So all of their dirty tricks, their bag of dirty tricks seemingly has been exhausted. I suggest to you, even the people coming across the border, clearly have been paid by elements of the United Nations or whoever, apparatus of the owners. They're clearly here as an invasion force. I understand the UN is out of money that they can't make payroll.
• 28:34
  So if all of those people are in The United States and they're not getting paid, what are they gonna do? And the answer is they're gonna have to figure it out for themselves that their paymaster is no longer in control. And wouldn't it be better if you had a good economy and this guy over here, the guy by the name of Trump seems to understand how to make a good economy. I mean, so even those people who were put there to destroy The US or to pass ballots against the guy, Whatever the case is, humanity is waking up. The bag of tricks isn't working anymore.
• 29:06
  Seth Holehouse: And so when you talk about them being tried and hung, how would that play out? Who would carry that out? Who would be the executioner? Who would be the judge? Who would be the jury?
• 29:17
  Because you can see that the the current system and infrastructure of, you know, judge, jury, executioner is completely compromised.
• 29:25
  Todd Callender: Yeah. Well, I think this is exactly the concern is with or without the government in its current state as it relates to The United States. There is going to be a replacement, and that replacement is going to happen, in November of next year, '1 way or another because the people are willing it to be so. And I think that's the concern of the other side is that if they allow this election to happen, they'll try for it not to happen. They know that it's actually that guy that they've been persecuting that's going to see this through.
• 29:55
  However, it's not solely dependent on him because now you have people in other countries like Costa Rica who can call on their mutual legal assistance treaties for extradition or to try these cases in accordance with existing agreements. The Hague Convention is governing law on this as is a variety of multilateral treaties, including the the convention on war crimes amongst others. So That allows for people like Costa Rica, for instance, to prosecute these people and actually go and get them and bring them there if they need to with the help of other nations that have an obligation to do that. I think this is a global phenomenon, Seth, that it's not just The United States. It might be the most obvious one because we see that the proposed, you know, nominee for the other side of the Democrats is now way ahead.
• 30:52
  And it looks like that, you know, if there were an election today, he'd run away with it. But I think you the sentiment is everywhere. It's in Europe. It's in Australia. It's in The United Kingdom.
• 31:02
  I'm sure it's in China. It's for that matter, because I think the Chinese have have clamped down. You know better than I do about that, but it looks to me like it's tenuous. Globally, it's tenuous as to whether the current power structure is able to hang on, and I don't think they can.
• 31:17
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. Well, one thing actually, I'll I'll pull up quickly here. You mentioned, you know, China, and this is we know that so much of what we're fighting is coming from the the subversion of our government and the control of our officials from the Chinese Communist Party. And I I just, you know, had an interview with General Flynn talking about this specifically. But you're you're talking about the people waking up, and I'll bring up this one particular website.
• 31:40
  So there's this movement called the Tuaidong movement. And it's really it's it's the it's the quit the CCP movement, and this is a movement Wow. Of the people. Right? And so Wow.
• 31:50
  This there have been, to this day, this updates every day, 421,000,000 Chinese people Wow. Have quit the Chinese Communist Party and its affiliated organizations. Holy cow. So think about how many are in China. Like, this is close to half of their population that
• 32:10
  Todd Callender: have Openly. Openly. What about the ones who aren't openly doing it? There's a whole lot
• 32:15
  Seth Holehouse: people too. Exactly. And so and and this is, mean
• 32:18
  Todd Callender: Game's over.
• 32:19
  Seth Holehouse: This is incredible. This is absolutely incredible. And this is such a powerful, just such a powerful, powerful movement of people. And what this is is it's people. It's the Chinese people.
• 32:30
  So think about this. Here in America, where we feel like our government has been weaponized against us and that, you know, we're Yes. Absolutely. The Catholic mom is now the domestic terrorist. Well, go go step behind the in the border of communist China.
• 32:46
  Go there with your unedited version of the Bible, right, where the CCP hasn't removed the miracles of Christ. Go there and and go meditate and practice Falun Gong and see what happens. I mean, the threat there is is death or imprisonment or torture, you know, or all of the above, organ harvesting. Yet, you still have over 400,000,000 people that have publicly Right. Renounced the Chinese Communist Party.
• 33:11
  And and I know that you're definitely a student of history, and you can see that that these totalitarian regimes, when they they can keep their control for as long as they can keep the people pacified and keep the people not as pacified, but in fear of the government. And when a movement like this comes, and there's that many people, I mean, to me, this is this again, going you know, we're talking about the the weakening of the cabal and everything. The fact that there's that many Chinese people shows me as one indicator that the Chinese Communist Party is nearing its own end. And when when that party collapses, I think in conjunction with a lot of the other collapses we're talking about, I think that the humanity and the good people will have a massive upper hand to reclaim the earth.
• 34:02
  Todd Callender: They would they will. It's a tide change. And you know, when that many people have discovered the truth, you can't put that back in the bottle. Actually, you know, we built Truth Hub, by the way, on this very basis with the Chinese and the Persians in mind, in so much that the tool allows for them to have these kinds of meetings in any language they want to, without any evidence that the meeting ever happened. And so it's not just our program that does that, but the people have figured out, you'd made mention of it a little earlier, that the technology has actually made it possible for us to do this, to organize, to discuss, to figure out the truth back and forth irrespective of the commercial media.
• 34:43
  And I haven't seen a recent figure, but I do know that your show for example was beating CNN's daily average, it wasn't long ago. So people have abandoned that. Think most people have realized that's just a pack of lies, they're seeking the truth. And and that's 400,000,000 people in China doing the same. We're all seeking the truth.
• 35:05
  It's such a beautiful thing.
• 35:07
  Seth Holehouse: Now it it doesn't discount, though, I think, the ability that the the deep state still has to create chaos and havoc, and that is one of my concerns. And and you and I have spent
• 35:19
  Todd Callender: They will.
• 35:19
  Seth Holehouse: You know, countless episodes, you know, going into the how and why and and, you know, the the the details of that in particular. And so, you know, getting into we we talked about those three kind of scenarios heading into 2024. And the one that concerns me the most is them creating mass instability in The United States
• 35:38
  Todd Callender: Yes.
• 35:39
  Seth Holehouse: As a precursor for a cancellation of the election for Yes. You know, changing the election laws even more severely than they did under the COVID, you know, excuse in 2020. So as we're coming in, say, in the next twelve months, because realistically, we're about one year away from the election.
• 35:57
  Todd Callender: Yeah. That's
• 35:58
  Seth Holehouse: right. Yeah. What are some things people should look out for? What are the potential actions that the cabal could take that concern you? So that way, like, one of my jobs is to say, look.
• 36:12
  You hope for the best, and here's the the positive solution, but prepare for the worst. And so I think we also Yeah. Have to understand that this enemy is very dangerous. So what are your thoughts about that?
• 36:23
  Todd Callender: Well, the cool part is it looks like we've all done a really good job of already frustrating them. One of the top things on my list to worry about in regard to this is Janet Yellen openly talking about defaulting on The US debt, that they're going to miss a debt payment, which of course would have extraordinary consequences around the world because all the economies are so tied together. If the US dollar is the world's reserve currency, is devalued, then everything becomes devalued. And that ties into central bank digital currency as well. And the problem that they're having is that so many people have prepared, including the IMF, who has switched away from their normal model of special drawing rights SDRs into monetary gold.
• 37:11
  So even they've hedged their bets and you got moms and pops throughout the world now that are holding silver and gold and they're actually using these on occasion such that no country has successfully ruled out the central bank digital currency either. Nigeria tried it and people said, well, let's just screw that. We'll go use a different currency and they did. Fed coin was supposed to be rolled out in July in The United States. They haven't been able to roll it out because nobody wants it and there are too many options.
• 37:39
  So those are big ones. We're already in a public health emergency. There's already a Marburg pandemic declared since 2020. It doesn't end until 2025. So that one's ready to go.
• 37:51
  And certainly they can cause those kinds of manifestations of symptomology, bleeding, making people sick through the five gs network that is at their hand as well. However, people have prepared for this and maybe more importantly than all of that, you know, the people in positions, like I said, the people with their finger on the trigger aren't so willing to follow blindly anymore. They're aware that the people in charge don't have their best interests in mind. They're aware of their personal power and responsibility that if they press that button, it means the end of humanity. Certainly it means the end of their family.
• 38:28
  They understand they too are marked for destruction. And as a result of that, all of the concerns I've had about the different ways, the different, you know, features of kill box that we're in, they are all frustrated universally. And like I said, the genie's out the bottle, the tide has changed. I don't think there's any way that it can actually be derailed because people are going to have their day. One way or another, there is going to be an election in November of next year because people want to demonstrate that they're not going along with the program anymore.
• 39:02
  This is over. Whether it's now or whether it's next November, they're done. This is over.
• 39:10
  Seth Holehouse: Hey, folks. I have a quick message for you. Thank you so much for watching and listening to this interview. I have one small request. If you're enjoying what you're listening to, could you please share this interview with one person?
• 39:23
  Just one person. Because of censorship and shadow banning, it's so hard to get this content out to more people. And the only way we can really do it is when you help by sharing it. So if you like what you're listening to, hit pause, share it with one person. It helps so much.
• 39:36
  Thank you so much. So even the central bank digital currency, which, you know, I've talked a lot about, and I'm and Yeah. It's it's quite concerning. It is interesting because, you know, Martin Armstrong, I've talked to numerous times about this cliff high, you know, brilliant kind of, you know, kind of crazy genius, but absolutely brilliant. And, you know, and multiple other guests have all come to the same conclusion that it will fail.
• 40:04
  They'll try to rule it out. It'll be rejected. They'll try to rule it out.
• 40:06
  Todd Callender: They haven't even tried.
• 40:07
  Seth Holehouse: It'll be rejected.
• 40:09
  Todd Callender: Yes, they haven't even tried because they know that. You you and I talk about this poll, that came up before, they're pulling all day long in every respect, because they understand it's the power of the collective consciousness that they've got to overcome. It's why they spend so much time and energy on football and Hollywood. The entertainment is designed to shape our thinking. What do you have?
• 40:32
  People are turning off their TVs, right? They're not tuning. I wasn't joking when I said you're out performing CNN. That's a fact. So the reality is they've lost control of the narrative and if they don't control the narrative, they can't control the populace.
• 40:47
  So that's where we sit today. None of these plans are working and frankly, I think it's too late. None of them will work. The only hope they've got to to stop this reconciliation is you know somebody setting off a nuke and even then I think the people with their fingers on the buttons aren't going to do it. It's not going to happen.
• 41:07
  Seth Holehouse: It's interesting. I'll make a quick point just in you mentioned the the scene in numbers and the show. And I it's funny because I'm this this channel, man in America is so suppressed. The the traditional ways they can go viral, having a video go viral on YouTube or Facebook, it's impossible. But, you know, I've got a 30,000 subscribers on YouTube.
• 41:31
  I'll do a video that'll get 2,000, three thousand views. I mean, it's so obviously blacklisted. But Yep. You know, like our interview on October 4 on Rumble got, I think, over 400,000 views. And so what that is, though, is it's people sharing the content.
• 41:47
  And and that's it's which is kind of funny because it was that's what they can't stop. And even whether it's people showing up for a demonstration with signs, whether it's people all calling their local official, or whether it's just people grassroots sharing an interview like this, that's what they can't stop. And so I just want to give the audience a big thank you because it's it's the audience that allows this information. Because when they watch this kind of video, they hit pause, they sent it to a couple of friends, and that happens over and over again. That's how you can get a video that like, I had an interview with David Martin recently about how the basically the the cabal was taking its last breath.
• 42:30
  That video got over a million views with no help from an algorithm on Google, with no help from an algorithm on YouTube. It was because people watched it, and they shared it. And that's that's the power of we the people.
• 42:46
  Todd Callender: It is. And I'm just sitting here thinking as you're saying that, Seth. But, you know, I can foresee that various states because elections are still run by the states that they'll not have the ballots for people. But I can guarantee you some enterprising mind or enterprising minds will simply have ballots available to download. People download, they'll print them and they'll put them in.
• 43:08
  People are going to have their say. One way or another, are motivated, they're gonna show up and even on the left side that's here to for support of the establishment. And it's not just the left side, it's the establishment rhinos too, right? They all had this great gig going with this giant criminal enterprise. Even they are backing away saying, well, there's a bridge too far, and they may sit this out.
• 43:34
  The point is the people are gonna be heard one way or another. You can't stop this.
• 43:39
  Seth Holehouse: Well, it's interesting because I know that on the ballots, you can write in a candidate. And let's just say that, you know, Colorado is one of states, I think, that that they're trying to remove Trump from the ballot. That could be a wonderful thing because then what happens is there's a massive campaign, which is right in Trump. And and imagine that because even people that are, say, you know, I I imagine a lot of people that are more independent or centrist would look at that and say, well, that's not fair. Like, you've removed my ability to even choose from the candidates.
• 44:07
  That's not democracy.
• 44:08
  Todd Callender: Exactly.
• 44:08
  Seth Holehouse: And so I can imagine Trump doing big rallies in Colorado, and having a big campaign. And maybe they'd get an overwhelming number of write ins. And maybe all those write ins would break the system that they would normally use to steal the state. It's just interesting because we again, we go back to the as much power and money as the cabal has, they can't stop the collective efforts of we, the people that that's it. It's beautiful.
• 44:33
  Todd Callender: It's, it's a, it's a notion of fairness. So if you put two kids together, they're toddlers, they can't even speak to each other. They, you know, they mumble or whatever it is. If one steals the other one's juice, there's a protest because it's unfair. People recognize what fair is and what fair isn't.
• 44:53
  Throwing a political candidate into jail and prosecuting him with a guy who doesn't have any oath of office, who has no loyalties to the country as demonstrated by his disdain for the oath of office. That isn't fair. The judge saying, well, we're not going to let you talk, Mr. Trump, is not fair. All they're doing is making his case.
• 45:16
  And I think they finally have understood that every time they prosecute him, they're just making him stronger. And so, yeah, to your point, I think this is precisely what happens that people are going to, do what they think is fair and appropriate. And I'm just grateful, that folks are are recognizing this universally. That's really what had to happen.
• 45:37
  Seth Holehouse: So here's an interesting question for you. This is more of a an intellectual exercise or an exercise of imagination. Let's fast forward ten years. Right? The people take control or begin really taking control in 2024.
• 45:57
  This pattern that we're seeing of, I think, it the COVID broke everything. And now up until that, the more they pressed, the the more they pushed the evil, the more we were suppressed, the more we would comply until COVID. And and that and the vaccine rollout, it broke that. And now the equation is, the more they press, the more they push their agenda, the more we reject. And I expect that to continue to accelerate.
• 46:24
  And it's almost like it's a death death spiral for them. So let's fast forward ten years. In your mind, this is important because it it's really important for us to have some vision of the future because
• 46:36
  Todd Callender: Good view.
• 46:37
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. That vision is so important. What is what does America look like? Or what is this country that, you know, is America currently what do you think it looks like in ten years? What is life like for my daughter who will be 13 years old?
• 46:54
  Todd Callender: Well, first and foremost, this is what leadership looks like. What you're doing is what leadership is. It's helping people understand a way and a path forward. So thank you for that. It's an important part of the conversation.
• 47:05
  I think people, are going to look to the past for guidance. People are coming to understand that our founders were absolutely brilliant in their thinking. They understood the weaknesses of men and humanity and what it is that we're attracted to, the easy way, the power, the money, whatever the case is. And I think that what you will find is it's a wonderful model and that others around the world are also going to shake off those bounds. And I think humanity first and foremost must go through the process of, holding people accountable because if we don't do that, this is gonna happen again.
• 47:45
  We cannot tolerate it. So I think what you see is a system of, genuinely, fairness being developed based on old models that did work and will continue to work with the system of checks and balances that have to be enforced and without a whole bunch of excuses to breach those what we call in the law exigent circumstances every constitutional right you think you have is gone because of exigent circumstances. So there's accountability there's principles and I see God coming back into people's lives because for the last couple of thousand years, it's been the removal of God. It's been the removal of ethics and principles that's caused this or allowed it to happen. And I think people are going to insist on it'll take them a while to come back to that, but I think that's what we find.
• 48:33
  It will have to be universally and effectively. It's God's laws that must come back into favor.
• 48:39
  Seth Holehouse: And what's interesting is that it's almost like, when I look for it, I can see that there's this universal lesson that's taught, whether it's in schools or whether it's the tales being told at the campfire or what wherever it is. And it's the story of what happened to the world when we let God and our morals go. Yep. And how we got to the edge of destruction and the edge of a thousand years of darkness. And that lesson, and the the memory of that lesson, and the continual teaching of that lesson, I think that will be what what creates the path for humankind.
• 49:25
  It's almost
• 49:26
  Todd Callender: Beautiful.
• 49:27
  Seth Holehouse: Like, if you take someone that is a heroin addict or an alcoholic, And they you know, it doesn't happen all at once. It's a slow process of you do a little bit more, little more. And before you know it, you wake up to, you know, twenty years later, and you're near death. It's it's that rock bottom and the people that come out the other side, and they know what that looks like. They know what it was like when they woke up, you know, overdosed on a bathroom floor in a public restroom.
• 49:52
  Like they know what that was like, and that that memory of how close they got to absolute death becomes the lesson that never allows them to slip back into that for the rest of their life. And I almost feel like that's what America and that's what the world needs to go through.
• 50:08
  Todd Callender: The near death experience, and I hope there's one thing more than anything else that comes across in this lesson. And that is we have to abandon apathy. Apathy is one of the reasons why we are where we are. People got lazy, both mentally and physically, and spiritually for that matter as well. People traded out their ethics for ease.
• 50:31
  Let things just happen without ever standing their ground and now we're forced into that position. Exactly Seth, we are forced into standing our ground or perishing. It's a near death experience and and and frankly we have nothing to lose anyway. So why not go through this because our destruction was already planned. It's really up to us if we don't wanna see humanity made extinct, we have to do something about it.
• 50:56
  And it's actually taken this. You and I've been saying this for a long time, people didn't want to believe that humanity was marked for destruction by 02/1930, and now they get it. And now they're saying, holy cow. They actually wrote this down? Yeah.
• 51:09
  They did.
• 51:12
  Seth Holehouse: So even as much as you know about the complexity of this depopulation agenda and all of that surrounding information, you say you still have this immense hope for the future. I I I can see that.
• 51:30
  Todd Callender: Yeah. I do. Yeah. Do. Because it's failing.
• 51:34
  Because humanity's consciousness is arising. People are no longer as apathetic as they were. They're asking hard questions finally. And by the way, it's a wonderful thing. These little libraries in our pockets, you know, and more people are actually looking into things and calling others out.
• 51:53
  How did you arrive at that conclusion? Where's your statistic asking those questions? It's such a joy to see, even in the medical space, Seth, for three years you and I have been talking about, you know, where is your science? You say it's wonderful, speed of science, what does that mean? What is mRNA?
• 52:09
  We've been asking these questions and the doctors kept saying, well, know, it's a science without ever having to defend it. Now they have to defend it because the patients are asked questions. What are you what is in that syringe? If you can't tell me what's in that, I ain't taking it. So it's finally here.
• 52:26
  Can you believe it took this much to get here?
• 52:30
  Seth Holehouse: And so knowing that believe the next twelve months, especially, will be rough. There's gonna be a lot of threats, a lot of scares, a lot of Yeah. Instability. For someone that can watch this interview, and they can agree, and they can come to this place amidst this interview, they feel this they have that vision of the future. Yeah.
• 52:50
  When that person is going through the next twelve, twenty four months and hits these low points where all hope seems lost. What's your advice to that person?
• 53:02
  Todd Callender: Great, great question. It's really simple. It's twofold. Speak the truth and demand the truth of others. Because it's not as scary as it looks, right?
• 53:14
  Again, we're in the middle of a facade, but when we know what the truth is, when we know what the facts are, it's not so scary anymore. Humans are afraid of the unknown. Right? That's built into us. So let's do away with the unknown.
• 53:26
  Let's find out. Speak the truth. Demand the truth. It's really that simple.
• 53:33
  Seth Holehouse: Well, Todd, I think those are good words to conclude on. It's like, you know, you want to leave at the right moment so people can, you know, walk away from this interview and carry that energy. And and I also I look I, you know, we're almost an hour into this, I hope that if anyone's made it to this point, that when when they hit that button, it shows off, they can they can share this interview, they can send it to their friends, family, because I mean, I'm a pretty hopeful positive person. My wife accuses me of having rosy lenses, which I do some
• 54:03
  Todd Callender: That's why we love you, man. Yeah,
• 54:07
  Seth Holehouse: but I can say that I, I feel this I really do have hope for the future. Not that it's not it's not doesn't mean it's gonna be easy. But there's there is hope I see that place that we can get to as the human race where we come back together, we bring God back into the world, we reject the evil agenda, and and we carry on. That that gives me immense hope. And it gives me more drive to do what I'm doing.
• 54:38
  It gives me more energy and more will to keep pushing forward with what I've chosen to do to fight in this battle. And that's that's encouraging. I hope people can walk away with that own feeling in towards their own path that they're on.
• 54:53
  Todd Callender: Yeah, that's beautiful. I think Seth, every day, every hour, every minute, every second that we continue to survive is a victory. That means that the other side has failed in their mission. So I'm hopeful like you, because they sure have tried a lot. They keep trying, but God's divine hand has given humanity another chance.
• 55:14
  We're gonna be all right.
• 55:16
  Seth Holehouse: I agree. Well, Todd, thank you. Take care. God bless. It's great having you on.
• 55:23
  Folks, I hope you enjoyed the interview with Todd Callender. If you made it this far, please hit pause right now. Share this interview with a friend of yours with a small group on your Facebook. Maybe you'll get put in Facebook jail. Sorry.
• 55:38
  But you please do that. That helps us to reach more people. And I honestly, I hope this this interview has left you feeling some hope. But now we did talk about in this hope for the best prepare for the worst. And so next, I've got a fifteen minute interview with Doctor.
• 55:55
  Kirk Elliott. And it's based upon some recent statements made by colonel Douglas MacGregor, talking about this concern that he thinks that there's gonna be a couple of weeks where the banks shut down, where people can no longer access their accounts. And so, you know, as we talked about with Todd, yes, there's this hope that the deep state is in its last on its last leg, that it's almost dead, but that they're still very dangerous. In the next twelve months, we could see a lot of disruptions. And so I I think it's important to have the hope, but also to be able to understand what their strategy might be, especially as it relates to the financial warfare on us.
• 56:31
  So this is an incredibly important interview and an incredibly important sound bite we've got from Colonel Douglas MacGregor. So please enjoy this interview, this economic update with Doctor. Kirk Elliott. Kirk, it's great to have you on, man. Thank you so much for for being back again.
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: It's great to be back with you. Even though I'm traveling today, this isn't my normal studio. Yeah. I don't have lights like this at home and you know? But but I I never like to miss a show.
• 56:59
  So therefore, I'm doing it while I travel.
• 57:02
  Seth Holehouse: I I really appreciate that. So I wanna dive into to something, you know, actually quite quickly. This is quite urgent, this this warning. You and I have talked a lot about what could happen with the banking system. We've warned people about, you know, sovereign debt crisis, the derivatives markets, the just everything that's wrong with our our system, but also that there, you know, people wake up one day and they go to the ATM and it says you cannot access your account.
• 57:29
  And people could say, well, these are wild conspiracy theories or whatever. But Colonel Douglas MacGregor was recently on with Patrick Bette David. I wanna play this this about a minute clip. He's talking about what he thinks will happen in leading up to twenty twenty four election. So probably over the next twelve months.
• 57:48
  And let me just go ahead and play this because and this is here on Twitter. This is really, really intense. So let me go ahead play this for for for folks.
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: You're absolutely right. I don't think we'll ever get to the twenty twenty four election. I think things are going to implode in Washington before then. I think our economic financial condition is fragile. It's gonna come home to roost in ugly ways.
• 58:15
  I I will tell you, I don't know exactly how it will happen. I think we're gonna end up in a situation where we find out the banks are closed for two or three weeks, and nobody can get into them? You think so? I think we're gonna run into something like that. Yeah.
• 58:28
  I also think that the levels of violence and criminality in our cities is so high that it it's going to spill over into other places in society. Plea people that normally think they can live remote from the problem are now beginning to be touched by the problem. Then I look at this thing in Ukraine. I think Ukraine is going to lose catastrophically. It's going to be a complete collapse.
• 58:51
  And that too is going to have an effect here at home because people are gonna say, wait a minute. Everybody told us Ukraine was winning. Everybody told us x, y, and z. I mean, sort of the the Russian hoax on steroids. All of those things are going to come together or converge in some way that's gonna prevent us from reaching, you know, the status quo.
• 59:10
  Oh, another election. Oh, another set of campaigns and so forth.
• 59:16
  Seth Holehouse: So what do you make of that? I mean, I know we've talked a lot about this. We've talked about if there's more bank collapses, and the bank runs begin, how they've even talked about as a necessary measure measure to prevent further bank runs and collapsing, stopping people from accessing their accounts temporarily. But I mean, this this, I guess, what do you think is he's not some crazy conspiracy theorist. This is a he's a very decorated colonel.
• 59:48
  So Kirk, I'll pass it to you.
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: So when you hear messages like that, that sound really ominous, and they're from a credible source who's not normally like this reactionary, just trying to get, you know, be a media hound. Right? It's alarming. And so you hear that and say, well, wow, banks failing. Right?
• 1:00:09
  Banks might be closed for two to three weeks. Right? It's like that would create mayhem. That would create social unrest if people can't access their funds. See, because most of America is living paycheck to paycheck.
• 1:00:22
  They're using the ATM machines. They're they don't of America, sadly, doesn't hardly have enough money at the end of the month to even survive. Right? So so this is the backdrop to that. Well, then we have to ask ourselves a question.
• 1:00:38
  What causes banks to fail? Well, there's a couple of things. Number one, withdrawals are more than deposits, and they just simply run out of money. Number two, the money, the deposits that they do have, this is malinvestment. They've got bad investments because they invest in the same things that you and I.
• 1:00:59
  Right? They invest in stocks, bonds, mutual funds, companies. If they're going down and they don't have enough inflow coming in to cover those losses and withdrawals coming out because under Biden's magnificent economic plan for America, people are they're losing wages. Wages are coming down. They don't have enough money to survive.
• 1:01:21
  So, therefore, there's more withdrawals than there are deposits. So you you start to add those things up, and it spells destruction for banks. Now you add to that Basel III, the Basel III International Accord that that was signed basically to try to prevent more bank failures. I think they're actually going to add more bank failures, and that is this. You know, since about March of twenty twenty, reserve requirement at banks was taken down to zero.
• 1:01:53
  Meaning, banks don't have to have any money on hand. They could lend out a % of all deposits. They do that to try to stimulate the economy. It's like, oh, give out more loans, give out cheap money. You know?
• 1:02:06
  Just get it out there. Get people spending. That'll stimulate the economy. Well, the the ugly part is when that 0% reserve requirement is coupled with a declining economy where inflationary pressures are going up, the cost of borrowing is going up, and people can't afford to make their loan payments. Wages are coming down, which means they don't have a a big bottom line at the end of the month.
• 1:02:29
  There's nothing left over. There's gonna be more withdrawals coming out than deposits. Well, when you have a 0% reserve requirement, Seth, what are bankers hoping and praying for? That not everybody goes to get their money out on the same day. Right?
• 1:02:43
  Because it's not going to be there. So this is why Silicon Valley Bank went down. This is why First Republic went down. This is why Signature Bank and Silvergate Bank, Credit Suisse. This is why they all kinda went belly up simply because they had 0% reserve requirement.
• 1:03:01
  They didn't have enough money in the bank. They might not have been at zero, but by policy wise, they they could have been at zero. Well, they had more withdrawals than they had money going in. Therefore, they failed. There was kind of a run on the bank, and that was bank failure one point o.
• 1:03:18
  I think what's coming is bank failure two point o, the second round. And when, you know, when so I think what's gonna happen is my my original projection might be off on it. I thought, oh, this is gonna probably start come around January. Because looking into the holiday season, which you and I have talked about on previous shows, cardboard box sales are down, like, 80%. The retailers are not expecting to have any retail sales during this holiday season or else cardboard box sales would go up.
• 1:03:51
  So what comes July? People being laid off or, I'm sorry, in January. What else comes in January? '6 of the nine largest oil producers in the world join the BRICS nations, stripping away demand for the US dollar as the petrodollar. That means there's no foreign capital inflow.
• 1:04:10
  Any kind of spending that we want, stimulus money, raising the debt ceiling, entitlements, all of that is gonna have to come from us just printing money, which we don't have. So that's gonna cause even more inflation, rising interest rates even further to slow down that inflation. So here's where we come January. All of this is like a vicious storm hitting us all at once from different fronts. Right?
• 1:04:37
  So so I think that he's right. I think that this colonel, when he speaks of banks failing and civil unrest and chaos, I think that he's right. I mean, I think it's going to be bank failure two point zero. Well, oddly, you know, right before the show when we were talking about this, it's like, hey, Seth, did you see that another bank failed over the weekend? The regional bank in Iowa.
• 1:05:03
  They went basically, they failed. Went into FDIC receivership. It's like, is it starting again? Too early to tell. Right?
• 1:05:12
  It's too early to tell if this is gonna be another but it's yet another regional bank that failed. But then coming coming on top of that was Citibank, not a regional bank, but literally, like, the third largest bank in North America. Project Bora Bora, they're laying off more than 10% of its workforce. And and the CEO, Jane Fraser, she you know? So what did Jane say?
• 1:05:42
  Said there's gonna be a lot of good hardworking employees that have to be laid off, and this is hard decision for us, but we need to do it. Well, why do they need to do it? Because they don't have the profitability there. There's fewer people making loan payments, more withdrawals than there are deposits. Even Citigroup, Citibank is actually feeling the economic hit of of Biden's economic plan.
• 1:06:06
  Right? So so it's like, man, if they're gonna lay off more than 10% of its workforce, what would just 10% be? Because they're gonna lay off more than 10%, but what's 10%? They have 240,000 employees. So that's 24,000 people without jobs with this.
• 1:06:22
  Their their employees are running scared. They're wondering if they're even gonna have a job. They don't know they don't know what to do. Why are they afraid they're not going to have a job? Because the bank isn't profitable.
• 1:06:35
  There's so many delinquencies in in cars, you know, auto loans, so many delinquencies in mortgages, personal bankruptcies, corporate bankruptcies, the inability for people to make their loan payments on time. You know, this is this is what banking in America is now looking like. Well, add to that the whole Basel III Accord thing, which they raised the reserve requirement to 20%. So they did that to stop banks from failing. Now this is why they did it.
• 1:07:06
  It's like, well, man, if if banks have to have 20% on hold, you know, reserved held back, then they have a buffer. They have a rainy day fund. Right? And they're not gonna go out of business so quick. Well, okay.
• 1:07:18
  We take that with a grain of salt. Because when you come from 0% requirement to now 20%, let's just say you're a billion dollar bank, which isn't really big for a bank. I mean, that's I mean, it's big, but it's not it's not huge. They would have to have $200,000,000 in reserves. That's sort of 20% reserve requirement.
• 1:07:40
  So from zero to 200,000,000, were they gonna come up with the 200,000,000 if they didn't have it from the jump? I don't know. It's like, doesn't just come out of thin air. So what are they gonna do? They don't they don't basically correlate then with these international banking standards.
• 1:07:57
  They have to go out of business. Oh, but they're not really gonna go out of business. Don't worry about it. JPMorgan Chase will buy them out. See, we're having consolidation in the banking world.
• 1:08:08
  So we're we're entering this time where the having a 20% reserve requirement is under Basel III. They say this will help banks from failing. But to me, going from zero to 20 means banks will automatically fail because they don't have the money on hand to comply with the new standards. So now we're starting to see bank failure two point o coming and Citibank laying off 20, well, you know, 24,000 people nationally. It's like, is the colonel right?
• 1:08:42
  Are we gonna have banks shut down? I mean, when you empirically add up the evidence, this the story that he's telling us is not a reactionary tale of conspiracy theory. It's like this this is kind of reality. It's an ugly reality that banks are undercapitalized. We've got massive amount of bankruptcies coming.
• 1:09:06
  We've got a sluggish economy that's slowing down even further. And when the Fed, Seth, says that they're gonna pause interest rates, Well, pausing interest rates, people take that as a positive. So they're winning the war on inflation. They get to pause interest rates. It's like, no.
• 1:09:24
  Winning the war on inflation means that the rise in interest rates that we've had 10 out of the last eleven months, month after month after month after month, it means that they would actually lower interest rates if they're actually winning the war on inflation. But they let interest rates go sky high. Now the pause, they're pausing them at that high level. That doesn't mean that they've won the war on inflation. That means they know that we still have inflation, and they're gonna pause rates at these high prices, these high cost of borrowing rates, and that truly is gonna kill the economy.
• 1:09:57
  That one thing tells us they haven't won the war on inflation. And what the colonel is telling us about civil unrest and bank failures, it's probably not a dystopian future, you know, decades down the road. I mean, it could happen this year. Especially come January, which is only, what, two months away, you have loss of demand for the US dollar because of the BRICS nations. You've got the the unemployment that's probably going to come from a soft retail season.
• 1:10:28
  And they're probably going to raise rates another quarter of a point based on the Fed's own words. All of that's and then pause, right? So all of that tells me he's probably right.
• 1:10:42
  Seth Holehouse: And so for people that have, there's lot of folks that they work their whole life, they're saving, they're putting away that nest egg, and say they've got, you know, say, $50,000 in this account and a hundred thousand in savings, and they've got a Vanguard IRA, etc. These are all, you know, these are all banks that are managing their money or they're trusting. When that day comes that might come as Colonel McGregor is discussing, what's that look like? What's that look like in let's, like, walk through the the eyes of the average American that just trusts this system, and all of a sudden can't access their entire net worth that's liquid, that it's actually sitting in the US dollar. What's that day look like?
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: Well, let's say you have $10,000 in your bank, and you you write checks on that to pay for groceries, pay for anything else. Well, shoot. If the banks are closed, you're not gonna be able to access those funds. What if you wanna go to the ATM machine? If the bank is closed, you're not gonna be able to get money out.
• 1:11:55
  Are you gonna be able to use a credit card if the bank is closed and they can't reconcile at the end of every day to try to figure out what your balance I don't know. I mean, I don't I don't know the answer to that. However, people trying to get to their cash, trying to access their balances when they're living at the margin, when even when amazing people, amazing god fearing people who love Jesus and have an amazing family and they just wanna feed their kids will probably go to almost any length to feed their family. Right? It's like where this is where even even good people start to go a little bit haywires when they run out of money and their family is starving.
• 1:12:34
  Right? So so one bank failing isn't going to cause that. Across the board, bank failures probably would cause unrest and societal collapse and craziness that that follows. What follows societal collapse, martial law, things happening in the streets that you don't want, riots looting because people need to, you know, break into stores to get their food. I mean, this is what happens on a widespread banking collapse.
• 1:13:02
  It won't happen if one, two, or three banks close. I mean, it won't. It just simply won't. There's still enough of them out there that are open, but but what he's talking about is more of a widespread, almost like pandemic style bank closures because they've simply run out of money. And we've hit critical mass on inflation.
• 1:13:26
  People can't afford to live. If they raise rates yet another 25 basis points or a quarter of a point, how many people are gonna be able to afford their credit card payments or their home equity lines or anything that's adjustable? Or how many people are gonna even be able to afford to buy a new house. And it's like, these numbers are going to be dwindling, which will cause more economic mayhem and collapse.
• 1:13:53
  Seth Holehouse: And so because even if there isn't necessarily widespread bank failure, actually a banking collapse, it could just be perhaps a couple of banks that start having runs. They they start seeing that number of the overall deposits in the banking system sharply decline. And that might be enough just to say, kind of like, okay, we're gonna we're gonna lock down two weeks to slow the spread. Right? So don't leave your house for two weeks.
• 1:14:19
  And this is gonna help us stop the pandemic from getting out of control. It's the same thing. Where maybe it's not the entire banking system that collapses, but it could just be this pause where it's okay, look, you can't access your account for two weeks, but you're right. I can't see a scenario where society wouldn't spiral out of control. If people no longer have access to money.
• 1:14:42
  I mean, you're gonna see, like, we see what happens in other countries. You see people burning down the banks, breaking into the federal buildings. I mean, it the people, you take away their food or their money for more than a couple of days, and they will go absolutely crazy. And so what do you think would happen to precious metals during that time? Because that's like, this is like, for me, it makes me glad that I've really tried to painfully hedge against this and slowly chip away and put a little bit in the silver, little bit in the gold over time because that's still there.
• 1:15:16
  There's no bank that can tell me, hey, you can't withdraw an ounce of silver to go trade it for some bread at the local farm market.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: I mean, when you have so there's a couple reasons why go why precious metals go up and reasons why they go down. Right? So why do they go down? Let's answer that one first. Why would gold and silver go down?
• 1:15:37
  Well, during the Reagan years, for example, everything else was going up. Stocks, bonds, mutual funds, real estate. They were going up because we had lowering interest rates, lowering taxes, job creation, and political peace. For the most part, we had political peace. I mean, Gingrich had the contract with America where Democrats and Republicans were talking and getting along and cutting deals.
• 1:15:59
  The Cold War was won. The Berlin Wall came down. I mean, really, everything was pretty good. And it was so good that that Bush, you know, Bush number one, proceeding Clinton decide and both Bush, Clinton, and Reagan used all of Reagan's policies because they were good. It's like, if it ain't broke, let's not fix it.
• 1:16:22
  Right? So Reagan's economic policies lasted about twenty years. Trump had the same economic policies. They only lasted about four because then it was almost like a communist takeover of America. Right?
• 1:16:35
  And and under the Biden administration, they changed everything. It's like, no. We we don't care. This is this is not the world that we're creating, right? But under Reagan or Trump policies, when you have lowering taxes, lowering interest rates, job creation, people spend money, it's amazing, right?
• 1:16:52
  And so there's no need to really look for tangible assets like gold and silver because everything else is booming. Right? So so but fast forward to today. We don't have lowering taxes. We have raising taxes.
• 1:17:07
  We don't have lowering interest rates. We have raising interest rates. We don't have job creation. We have wage reduction. So policy wise, everything is different.
• 1:17:16
  So when it's a 80 degrees off, you're gonna have a 80 degree difference, exactly opposite. So instead of people having money to spend causing the stock market to go up, people don't have money to spend, stocks come down. As a flight for quality, gold and silver tend to do well. They just people want to invest in something that's going up. So there's gonna be more demand for the metals.
• 1:17:38
  Now second to that is other just more economics one zero one stuff. The COMEX depositories are running out of silver. Right? There there's very little available. So because of the high manufacturing demand for electronics, solar power, EV cars, vehicles, whatever.
• 1:17:55
  Right? So so you've got supply chain disruptions causing low supply, high demand. Prices go up during that. All things also go up with inflation. If it's a thing, that's gonna have higher prices during inflation.
• 1:18:10
  Right? So groceries, cars, oil, gas, eggs, meat, gold, silver. All of that goes up because there are things, and we are living in an inflationary world because the government's response to a declining market is to print money because we need it. Right? We don't have enough money at the end of every month to fund all the entitlements, expenditures, everything that we've got.
• 1:18:37
  So therefore, we've gotta print like there's no tomorrow. We will just print, print, print, print, print. That's inflationary. That causes things to go up. Gold and silver are a thing.
• 1:18:45
  So no matter how you look at it, whether it's political chaos, not political peace, inflationary pressures, or supply chain disruptions, everything is pointing towards gold and silver right now, but especially silver. And here's the thing. I'm not god. I don't control the markets. There is no guarantee that things will keep going up or things are gonna keep going down.
• 1:19:08
  We don't know what we don't know. But what we are looking at are the propensity for them to go up because these are the exact fundamentals that do cause them to move, sure enough, I'm gonna take advantage of it. You know, March of twenty twenty, you know, what was that? Three three years ago, a little three and a half years ago, What was silver? It was $11.91 an ounce.
• 1:19:33
  Today, it's over 23. Well, that's amazing. Right? That's literally tripling in the last three and a half years. That's a great return.
• 1:19:43
  So have the trends changed? Trend hasn't changed. The fundamentals causing those trends have become more intense, which means probably going to start accelerating that trend. So all we do is is take biblical wisdom, understanding, discernment, knowledge, and that creativity that God gives each and every one of us to make a wise decision on how you allocate into safety in a world where there's no guarantees.
• 1:20:11
  Seth Holehouse: And that's exactly what it is. And we've we've talked about this and and hearing MacGregor mentioned that it just this was reminder to me and why I you know, it's like I've consistently talking gold and silver because for me, if that day comes, I hope it does it. But there is a strong chance it could come. If that day comes, you go to log on to your account. They say sorry, you can't access your funds two to three weeks and maybe it doesn't come back.
• 1:20:38
  Maybe it comes back as a sort of digital currency. They said, Look, we're gonna be converting your funds into a digital currency. That is that right there is the exact scenario of why I believe gold and silver is so important. And so for all the people that are watching and listening, and this isn't a sales pitch, like I the same reason why I say buy store will food, buy ammo, you know, get solar, do whatever you can make sure you have a good water source. Like we're heading into 2024.
• 1:21:04
  We're heading into, I think, an insane year so that if that happens, you're not left with nothing. You still have some portion of your wealth that you've set aside that you can use to barter with to trade for food or whatever it is, just to get through that time. So, know, Kirk, you're someone that I trust. It, you know, like a brother and that's why I enjoyed doing the shows with you. So if folks want to talk to you and say they're ready to move, say it's 10% of their savings or 10% of their, you know, their four zero one ks.
• 1:21:39
  You know, I'm ready to put this into just as an insurance policy into gold and silver. What's the best way for them to get ahold of you?
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 3: So go to the link that you have on each one of these shows. Fill out a little bit of information. Right? Because and and what's that link?
• 1:21:56
  Seth Holehouse: GoldwithSeth.com.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: So GoldwithSeth.com. And you just fill out that form right there that's on the screen. And then one of my team members will will call you back, say, hey. What was it that Kirk and Seth were talking about that caused you to wanna reach out? Right?
• 1:22:13
  And because we wanna make sure we're answering all of your questions and to bring you to a point of peace, not a point of anxiety. We're trying to melt away the anxiety. And then we'll we'll set you up with an appointment with one of my amazing advisers, right, that'll dig in a little bit deeper and map out a strategy for success moving forward. Now you could also just simply give us a call, (720) 605-3900. That's (720) 605-3900.
• 1:22:40
  Just say that Seth, sent you, and the same thing will happen. Ask you some questions, get you set up for a free consultation, and move forward from there. So that's the best way to do it. And again, everything that we do, it's a free consultation. You don't know what you don't know, right?
• 1:22:59
  And so what we want to do is map out a strategy. If you don't like it, you just walk right away, right? But if you do, like literally 90 plus percent of everyone that calls us is like, this is amazing. Let's get something done. Let's get it done yesterday.
• 1:23:14
  It's like, I can't get it done yesterday, but we'll get it done really fast. Because in an IRA, for example, if a client has an IRA, my team will do everything except you filling out fifteen minutes of paperwork. We'll handle the asset transfer. I'll call you when the funds show up, and it goes into physical gold or silver. And I would do physical silver right now.
• 1:23:35
  If it's a non IRA, you could take delivery of it, or we could set up a storage account. Either one. Right? So so the thing is that could be done immediately. That could be done a day where an IRA generally takes about two weeks to to fill because your old custodian needs to wire the funds over.
• 1:23:52
  So And they sometimes are a little bit sticky on their fingers with your money. They don't want to get rid of it. But this is where my team will help out a lot and get them to comply quicker than normal. So that's the process. I mean, from anywhere from a day to two weeks, we could get you allocated into metals personally or through your retirement account assets in an IRA.
• 1:24:16
  And right now, it's I believe it's the best thing in the world for us to do with the portion that you decide you wanna do it with because I don't see an asset that's any safer. Doesn't mean it's risk free. Everything in life has risk. Right? We don't even know if we're gonna wake up tomorrow.
• 1:24:34
  But when you've got inflationary pressures, political chaos, uncertainty, inflationary pressures, rising interest rates, rising cost of borrowing, wars and rumors of wars, oil prices going through the roof because of Israel and Hamas, we couldn't even elect a speaker of the house for, like, weeks. It's like, what's going on? Right? All of that is very bullish. It causes gold and silver to go up.
• 1:24:58
  We're just taking advantage of that.
• 1:25:00
  Seth Holehouse: The thing is is that it doesn't have to be someone's entire net worth, even a few thousand dollars. If you have that sitting when no one else on your street can access or no one else your neighborhood could even access their money. And you're the one that has, you know, 50 ounces of silver set aside or an ounce of gold set aside, you're the one that can actually access that that could be such a significant difference. So even even a small amount, that's really about working with you too, is that if someone calls in and say, Look, Kirk, I've only got $1,000 Your team's like, Okay, we're gonna we're gonna make it work. So Kirk, it's always nice having you on.
• 1:25:35
  I appreciate the time you you make for this, and I appreciate you coming on. So thank you again for for being here with us today.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 3: You bet. It's my pleasure.