Latest / The Bootleg Kev Podcast / #241 - Rich Homie Quan
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Boulet Cat Show special guests in here one of the goats. Yeah,
- 0:05Speaker 1: rich Homie, what's up? Yeah? Man, kwan what up? Man?
- 0:08Speaker 1: What's up? Bro? Like I was saying, good to see you. Man. Yes, listen, man,
- 0:12Speaker 1: let me tell you something. When I say that, I
- 0:14Speaker 1: always give you so much love when I talk about
- 0:16Speaker 1: just who really is? Like still when I hear music,
- 0:21Speaker 1: I still hear your fingerprints over everybody, man, show that
- 0:24Speaker 1: for show that I definitely had too. I appreciate that over. Yeah,
- 0:27Speaker 1: you're a legend. I was living in Tampa, Florida really
- 0:31Speaker 1: when twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, it was different, man, it
- 0:35Speaker 1: was different. Man. You to go to DTLR, you'd have
- 0:38Speaker 1: your clothing line and that motherfucker. Yeah yeah, shit was different. Man,
- 0:41Speaker 1: it was different. Bro. I just remember every fucking mixtape
- 0:45Speaker 1: record going off a club Sky and Ebors City. Man,
- 0:47Speaker 1: it was just it was, Yeah, you're a legend. Man.
- 0:50Speaker 1: I appreciate that, bro. Yes, I appreciate that. Man. How's everything?
- 0:54Speaker 1: I know? You got to new I'm coming out next Friday, yeah,
- 0:56Speaker 1: but just reloading it next Friday fe lot now. But
- 1:01Speaker 1: you know, opposed to music, man, I'm doing good though. Man,
- 1:03Speaker 1: that's good. I'm doing good mentally, You're happy, oh for sure,
- 1:06Speaker 1: for sure, definitely happy man independent now, so that's important. Yeah.
- 1:13Speaker 1: I always felt like, you know, because for a while
- 1:16Speaker 1: you were I forget, what was the major label you've
- 1:19Speaker 1: been putting stuff out with. Was it cap Brolltown. I
- 1:22Speaker 1: always felt like you were kind of built for the
- 1:23Speaker 1: independent ship. Yeah, me too, man, me too. But at
- 1:26Speaker 1: the same time, you know, throughout my ten year run,
- 1:30Speaker 1: definitely I saw every side was for independent t ig label.
- 1:35Speaker 1: So yeah, because the thing it's a game era for
- 1:37Speaker 1: people who don't know, there was like a point in
- 1:39Speaker 1: time where you were kind of cool off. But it
- 1:40Speaker 1: was also because you weren't allowed to release music, for sure,
- 1:42Speaker 1: for Show that, for Show that. Yeah. So when I
- 1:44Speaker 1: couldn't release music, man, you know, they just really put
- 1:47Speaker 1: a dark cloud over my head, you know what I'm saying,
- 1:50Speaker 1: dark cloud where I couldn't record. I didn't even want
- 1:52Speaker 1: to hear the radio, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
- 1:54Speaker 1: was it like a point in time where you felt
- 1:56Speaker 1: like you might have been like kind of dealing with
- 1:57Speaker 1: some depression or you just kind of were like down
- 2:00Speaker 1: in terms of just like you're just on the music
- 2:03Speaker 1: industry in general, I would just say the press, bro.
- 2:06Speaker 1: But coming from that situation, from the litigations why I
- 2:08Speaker 1: couldn't drop and that and watching your pills just go up,
- 2:12Speaker 1: knowing you can't go up, you know what I mean.
- 2:14Speaker 1: But I'm still doing shows and my heart just wasn't
- 2:17Speaker 1: in it no more. Yeah, yeah, I think, uh, you
- 2:21Speaker 1: know when we think back of just all the music
- 2:24Speaker 1: you've been a part of, Man, I was just listening
- 2:26Speaker 1: to Days before Rodeo and I was just like, damn,
- 2:30Speaker 1: Mama Cito was So it's like a perfect song that
- 2:34Speaker 1: was supposed to be your record. Originally it was my song. Yeah,
- 2:38Speaker 1: Mama Citar was my song. Original. When I said my
- 2:41Speaker 1: song like Metro, Metro was in the studio together, yeah,
- 2:45Speaker 1: I know, when I left the studio just me on it, wow,
- 2:48Speaker 1: you know, and then it ended up with everybody. Yeah,
- 2:51Speaker 1: which I wasn't tripping ooh you know what I'm saying.
- 2:53Speaker 1: Which I wasn't tripping though, Like I don't look at
- 2:55Speaker 1: it like that. But it was definitely my record, you know.
- 2:58Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about obviously, so Atl took a
- 3:01Speaker 1: big loss, hip hop took a big loss. One of
- 3:03Speaker 1: your peers take off passed away all right, p take
- 3:06Speaker 1: off man. Yeah that that that that flocked me up. Bro.
- 3:09Speaker 1: You guys have a very similar trajectory in terms of
- 3:12Speaker 1: just timelines of your guys' career. Yeah, that's what I said.
- 3:15Speaker 1: That's what I was saying earlier. Like then that took
- 3:18Speaker 1: off at the same time. Like I remember take Off,
- 3:21Speaker 1: I remember the migos us all being over there, Gucci
- 3:25Speaker 1: spot bro before anybody got a deal, Thug over there,
- 3:28Speaker 1: Scooter over the the migos on the couch. You know
- 3:31Speaker 1: what I'm saying, everybody there. So just to see them
- 3:34Speaker 1: grind to get to where they are, where they are,
- 3:38Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It was just like and
- 3:39Speaker 1: just see where we started from and watch every move
- 3:42Speaker 1: like I saw them transition, like they saw me transition.
- 3:47Speaker 1: So it's like it is my real brothers man. So
- 3:50Speaker 1: that it was a huge l then me just knowing
- 3:53Speaker 1: like shit, that could have been me I've been so
- 3:56Speaker 1: it just I fuck with your brain, man, fuck with
- 3:59Speaker 1: your brain, bron. I love I love Houston so much.
- 4:02Speaker 1: Like that's one of the cities I said I would
- 4:04Speaker 1: move to if I would ever leave Atleana. Yeah, no
- 4:06Speaker 1: state taxes, great city. Yeah, it feared me so that
- 4:09Speaker 1: that that that fucked me up here, I can imagine, man, Yeah,
- 4:13Speaker 1: because I just think like you guys very were like
- 4:15Speaker 1: synonymous with each other in terms of like who was
- 4:18Speaker 1: kind of running the club scene. Yeah, like fourteen, Yeah,
- 4:21Speaker 1: like when fifteen it was like it was y'all and
- 4:25Speaker 1: it was them. Yeah, Like I remember like some type
- 4:29Speaker 1: of way on Vershota took off the same time the
- 4:33Speaker 1: time twenty thirteen. I remember it like it was yesterday.
- 4:37Speaker 1: I remember us doing the birthday beds and stuff together.
- 4:40Speaker 1: So it's like, man, we shot so many memories together. Man,
- 4:43Speaker 1: you feel me like, and you don't even know you
- 4:46Speaker 1: create memories when you're living in no moments, like you
- 4:48Speaker 1: don't even know they're gonna be memory. You feel me.
- 4:51Speaker 1: So I try to cherish most of my relationships with
- 4:54Speaker 1: shit now, brother, because you know, I never know when
- 4:57Speaker 1: I'm be gone. What was I mean? I don't know
- 4:59Speaker 1: how close should take off for it, But that's the
- 5:01Speaker 1: story you have. Maybe you know, whether it was birthday
- 5:03Speaker 1: bash or just a timeer you guys maybe had a
- 5:06Speaker 1: conbo or or had a memory together that you know
- 5:08Speaker 1: you always hold dear. Like I said, man, it just
- 5:11Speaker 1: mostly just take man, just him standing and cut man.
- 5:15Speaker 1: I always spoke yett so key, yeah, solo low key.
- 5:19Speaker 1: Last time I saw him was at QCP uh P
- 5:23Speaker 1: had a birthday party like a May galland at Georgie
- 5:26Speaker 1: in Atlanta at that Yeah, so being Quavo flicked up
- 5:29Speaker 1: and stuff and he was right there like the going
- 5:32Speaker 1: and a cut he say much, but he had a
- 5:34Speaker 1: blnt and dark shad zon you know what I'm saying.
- 5:36Speaker 1: So that's it just foke with me different, bro, It
- 5:40Speaker 1: just hit me different man then like knowing his character,
- 5:43Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you know me quiet to
- 5:45Speaker 1: himself and the way it happened. Yeah, sad man, it's
- 5:49Speaker 1: a tragedy. That's a tragedy because it's not like like
- 5:52Speaker 1: you said, like it's not like he's the kind of
- 5:54Speaker 1: guy who he was was putting that energy out there,
- 5:58Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Like it wasn't putting the energy
- 6:00Speaker 1: in the atmosphere, you know what I'm saying. So it's
- 6:02Speaker 1: different for somebody like that. Sometimes people will pass and
- 6:06Speaker 1: they'll be like, well, look like obviously they're wrapped up
- 6:08Speaker 1: in a certain life or they're putting that they were
- 6:10Speaker 1: kind of putting that shit out. That's what you want.
- 6:13Speaker 1: You know, you live how to swear you die about
- 6:14Speaker 1: the sword. But that wasn't the case in that situation. Man.
- 6:17Speaker 1: So like that's why I think Atlanta been just devastated. Man,
- 6:22Speaker 1: how is Atlanta? I even I just heard somebody talking
- 6:24Speaker 1: that even like going to Buckhead it's hot right now? Yeah, man, Buckhead,
- 6:28Speaker 1: I wanted to come their own city right now. I heard,
- 6:31Speaker 1: like you could you like they're doing the smash and
- 6:33Speaker 1: grabs in Buckhead. They getting like because you know, Buckhead,
- 6:35Speaker 1: you can usually go to Atlanta. You're like, I'm going
- 6:37Speaker 1: to Bucket. It's the night, it's the burbs, Bucket. It's
- 6:40Speaker 1: hot over there right now in Atlanta, man, you know, yeah,
- 6:44Speaker 1: the young boy it's hot everywhere? Or what Bucket is?
- 6:47Speaker 1: La is fucked up too, you been? But uh yeah,
- 6:51Speaker 1: but Buckhead is definitely hotter than usual. You know what
- 6:54Speaker 1: I'm saying. I know, like, like I just said, they're
- 6:55Speaker 1: trying to get their own their own county on police.
- 6:59Speaker 1: They don't want to be part of Atlanta no more,
- 7:01Speaker 1: don't want to be own city. Okay, they want to
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- 8:18Speaker 1: you feeling the temperature in Atlanta change now that we
- 8:23Speaker 1: kind of know that this da that's there is specifically
- 8:27Speaker 1: targeting rappers in terms of just like, are you noticing
- 8:30Speaker 1: it just from like somebody who's a part of the
- 8:33Speaker 1: industry and also somebody who's a fan of what's going
- 8:35Speaker 1: on at Atlanta? Are you noticing the music change, maybe
- 8:38Speaker 1: the subject matter change and people moving out or people
- 8:40Speaker 1: moving differently. I would definitely say it's been a big
- 8:44Speaker 1: change since that das got in office, you know what
- 8:48Speaker 1: I'm saying. But like I say always, man, I feel
- 8:51Speaker 1: like us as rappers, man, we look out to watch
- 8:55Speaker 1: what we put out there because and I mean as
- 8:58Speaker 1: in lyrics like you just said, like if I'm talking
- 9:00Speaker 1: about game, I mean like shoot them up bang bang
- 9:03Speaker 1: music in my songs. What you think gonna be, Well,
- 9:05Speaker 1: what type of crowd do I think gonna be at
- 9:07Speaker 1: my shoulders? Or what type of crowd do I think
- 9:09Speaker 1: that I'm gonna you know, get the attention of so
- 9:12Speaker 1: it's almost like you get a tension from everywhere, not
- 9:16Speaker 1: just like it's gonna come from everywhere. So you just
- 9:18Speaker 1: gotta be mindful of what we say, man. And like
- 9:22Speaker 1: you know, she ain't playing, she ain't playing, she ain't playing.
- 9:27Speaker 1: I feel like you've been somebody who's for the most part,
- 9:31Speaker 1: had just positive vibes in your mind. Oh yeah, like
- 9:33Speaker 1: you know, like you know, like I'm from the hood,
- 9:36Speaker 1: but I don't gotta rap about like what's going on.
- 9:40Speaker 1: And I could just rap about the hood from my
- 9:42Speaker 1: perspective of it and just give stories and just put
- 9:45Speaker 1: your own game. Well, I ain't trying to go back though,
- 9:48Speaker 1: I don't even like but I can still make you
- 9:51Speaker 1: feel pain music with I after to rap about that
- 9:54Speaker 1: you feel me. I'm just trying to rap out some
- 9:55Speaker 1: everyday situations, man, stuff that you could relate to everybody
- 9:59Speaker 1: can't relate to, you know. Good. Yeah, when I think
- 10:03Speaker 1: of rich Homi Kwan, I think of like, I just
- 10:06Speaker 1: think that it's so hard for you to make bad
- 10:09Speaker 1: music because you're so good at this shit. And I'm
- 10:12Speaker 1: glad just to know that you're independent now because I
- 10:14Speaker 1: feel like when you're in a position like you or
- 10:16Speaker 1: everyone might be looking at you like, man, Kwane had
- 10:18Speaker 1: nothing for a minute. You kind of want to be
- 10:20Speaker 1: in an independent space because you could just shoot as
- 10:22Speaker 1: many shots as you want, because you know if something's
- 10:24Speaker 1: gonna go in because you're rich, Homi Kwan and you
- 10:27Speaker 1: do this shit. Bro. For sure that I think the
- 10:31Speaker 1: break was necess was needed though, Man, you know what
- 10:34Speaker 1: I'm saying, because it was at a time like, well,
- 10:37Speaker 1: I was a big headed bro, and I can admit that.
- 10:40Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Well, I was on my
- 10:42Speaker 1: high horse, you feel me like, and I take accountability
- 10:46Speaker 1: for that. So the break was really needed. It wasn't
- 10:49Speaker 1: really about me taking a break because the break wasn't
- 10:54Speaker 1: like I, oh, I finished chill, like I was forced
- 10:56Speaker 1: to take it. And with me taking a break, man,
- 11:00Speaker 1: I had to find you know, that had to face
- 11:02Speaker 1: the man in the mirror man, you know, and put
- 11:05Speaker 1: something blame on myself. Yeah. What I loved about you
- 11:09Speaker 1: was you were tapping in with the West Coast the
- 11:13Speaker 1: record like walkthrough shout out the problem and shout out
- 11:16Speaker 1: the problem man, and the like what problems. Just showed
- 11:19Speaker 1: me new ways too, because I never thought like I
- 11:22Speaker 1: could get on the West Coast type beat ninety two bpms.
- 11:25Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, LA record that just ended
- 11:28Speaker 1: up going crazy everywhere. Shout out, yeah, shout out to
- 11:31Speaker 1: do Pre the producer who Madere is a great guy. Yeah.
- 11:34Speaker 1: Man still work room to this day. And it's just
- 11:37Speaker 1: like man even with g just like with Mustard, Like
- 11:42Speaker 1: I remember first meeting them in the studio patchwork even
- 11:46Speaker 1: we did both of them, same songs in the same studio. Different. Yeah,
- 11:49Speaker 1: it's crazy because you know what's wild is like a
- 11:51Speaker 1: record like my hitter YG was having so many he
- 11:56Speaker 1: was having problems breaking through outside of the LA and
- 12:00Speaker 1: he got the rich Homie Coin stimulus package. But but
- 12:02Speaker 1: like even like to that store, it is like, yeah,
- 12:05Speaker 1: that store like was crazy though, like because even like
- 12:08Speaker 1: when I went to the studio, I didn't know who
- 12:10Speaker 1: g was, like or social media wasn't like it wasn't
- 12:14Speaker 1: as popular as it is now. Yeah, so it wasn't
- 12:17Speaker 1: like Fly called me and Fly being t I g CEO.
- 12:21Speaker 1: I then go to the studrel this West Coast artists,
- 12:23Speaker 1: Uh on watch I want Yeah it was signed to
- 12:28Speaker 1: death jam, but Giz was just you know, watching I
- 12:31Speaker 1: was like, I fuck was Gz, I'm gonna go down food.
- 12:33Speaker 1: So I go to the studio. Man in there in
- 12:35Speaker 1: the b room. They got the b room renting out.
- 12:38Speaker 1: And when I first go in, Muscle's on the computer.
- 12:40Speaker 1: But I'm thinking, Muster is yg you know see the
- 12:43Speaker 1: Apple computer nine times? Ain't playing stuff from his computer, Like, well,
- 12:47Speaker 1: watch what's up? Like this high approached. I'm like, watch,
- 12:51Speaker 1: that's why Ge damn, I'm so in bed like my
- 12:54Speaker 1: bad bir Am. He was like, it's cool, it's cool.
- 12:57Speaker 1: So Muscle going through beats And when he played the
- 13:00Speaker 1: beat for the my hit, all I could think of
- 13:03Speaker 1: was I'm Wayne going and I'm a simple to this
- 13:06Speaker 1: something like this. And Wayne was a big inspiration to me.
- 13:09Speaker 1: And I was like, man if I could put my
- 13:11Speaker 1: little twist on it, it would be hard. I went
- 13:14Speaker 1: in there, did my part, and I left. Two weeks
- 13:18Speaker 1: later for carbat Gzu went on the record and that
- 13:22Speaker 1: day why g hit it. They were saying his voice
- 13:24Speaker 1: was messed up with something, so he couldn't do his
- 13:25Speaker 1: verse that day, So I just did the verse, the hook.
- 13:28Speaker 1: I did the hook, the verse, I just left. That's crazy, Yeah,
- 13:31Speaker 1: classic class. What is your because I feel like you
- 13:35Speaker 1: are one of the when we think of like the
- 13:37Speaker 1: t pains, the acons, the guys who are just like
- 13:40Speaker 1: fifty cents, but the guys who can come through with
- 13:42Speaker 1: a hook always. What is your process when it comes
- 13:45Speaker 1: to coming up with a hook? Is it a punching thing?
- 13:47Speaker 1: Do you lay the melody first that you feel the
- 13:49Speaker 1: lyrics like? How do you come up with hooks first?
- 13:53Speaker 1: And foremost the hook is really created. It starts with me.
- 13:57Speaker 1: Beat selection, beat snitschness is important, and of course I'm
- 14:02Speaker 1: punching like but it's always off a feel like. I've
- 14:04Speaker 1: never went in the studio to make a hit. I
- 14:07Speaker 1: just try to go in there and make good music.
- 14:09Speaker 1: I try to go in there and make a song
- 14:10Speaker 1: I would want to hear, you know what I mean.
- 14:12Speaker 1: And I try to put no limits on my creativity,
- 14:15Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I'm willing to go
- 14:16Speaker 1: in there and try things. I'm willing to mess up.
- 14:18Speaker 1: And I've spent a lot of hours in that studio,
- 14:21Speaker 1: So I'm confident in what I do. I'm confident in
- 14:24Speaker 1: what I say, and I think confident plays a big
- 14:26Speaker 1: part in it. Yeah, I think confidence and then obviously,
- 14:29Speaker 1: you just gotta have that. I think your melodies are
- 14:31Speaker 1: so crazy, Like you gotta have a gift for coming
- 14:33Speaker 1: with those melodies. Man oh I shout out to my
- 14:36Speaker 1: grandmama put me on like that old little music when
- 14:38Speaker 1: I was little, Like it comes from that old soul music,
- 14:40Speaker 1: like listen to the Temptations, who else what she was
- 14:44Speaker 1: in the eyes Lit Brothers, Kim Right, stuff like that.
- 14:48Speaker 1: So it's not just all hip hop like R and
- 14:50Speaker 1: B two, I like the oldies. Do you ever look
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- 16:59Speaker 1: That's it gang Ship just from a fans perspective, just
- 17:03Speaker 1: looking back at like, wow, that was long, Doug. I mean,
- 17:07Speaker 1: everybody who was involved in Rich came back there. That
- 17:10Speaker 1: was That was just that was that was That was
- 17:12Speaker 1: what a time to be a live moment, man, you
- 17:14Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And like I said earlier, like
- 17:17Speaker 1: we're not knowing, like we really creating history, you know
- 17:20Speaker 1: what I'm saying, We're not knowing that we're going to
- 17:23Speaker 1: changed the game and people finish started doing collaborative projects.
- 17:26Speaker 1: Now you know what I'm saying. This just come from
- 17:28Speaker 1: two solo artists collaborate, collaborating on music every day. And
- 17:34Speaker 1: it was London on the Track was handling a lot
- 17:35Speaker 1: of that production. Yeah, London on the Track, you had
- 17:38Speaker 1: Dune deal. We had a lot of just a lot
- 17:41Speaker 1: of Atlanta, a lot of lant of producers. But London
- 17:44Speaker 1: was hands on. Dundale was hands on as oil. But
- 17:47Speaker 1: it's just us in the studio for three months straight,
- 17:49Speaker 1: and like, bro, what we're gonna do with the music
- 17:51Speaker 1: When you guys would decide, you and Thug would decide,
- 17:54Speaker 1: Like how would you'll decide who would take the lead
- 17:57Speaker 1: on like laying a hook down, like like let's say lifestyle. Okay,
- 18:00Speaker 1: so lifestyle so like for one like man Man thought
- 18:04Speaker 1: we were being in studio, but we were always being
- 18:06Speaker 1: separate rooms. So it's almost like, uh, we would always
- 18:09Speaker 1: been we would get a big enough studio because well
- 18:12Speaker 1: still of solo artists, and I'm like, I don't want
- 18:16Speaker 1: to intertroject on your creativity as well as mine. So
- 18:20Speaker 1: well look, so lifestyle was brought upon first day I
- 18:25Speaker 1: met bird Man, we did a show down in Miami.
- 18:28Speaker 1: Came out to the show and I had just busted
- 18:31Speaker 1: my face and walked through video from dehydration. Everybody was like,
- 18:34Speaker 1: he fell out these under rugs, But I was just dehydrated.
- 18:37Speaker 1: Do you gotta think it's twenty fourteen. I'm doing so
- 18:39Speaker 1: many shows. I'm not getting no proper rest. And I
- 18:42Speaker 1: didn't know you were getting all the back end. Yeah,
- 18:44Speaker 1: I didn't know about getting tired. I didn't know I can.
- 18:47Speaker 1: I can't. I didn't know I can fall out if
- 18:48Speaker 1: I don't get enough sleep, you know what I'm saying.
- 18:50Speaker 1: So I ain't enough busting my face. But like two
- 18:52Speaker 1: weeks after I busted my face, I got a big
- 18:55Speaker 1: offer in Miami. I ain't missing his money, right, put
- 18:58Speaker 1: some makeup on this shit. Put makeup on it. But
- 19:01Speaker 1: bird Man comes out to the show that night. Bird
- 19:03Speaker 1: Man come out to the show and meet bird Man,
- 19:06Speaker 1: but Thug had already met him. Me and Thug had
- 19:08Speaker 1: already been working in Atlanta. You know what I'm saying,
- 19:11Speaker 1: What up, nephew, I think you should come to the studio.
- 19:14Speaker 1: They bird just here a bird You know what I'm saying.
- 19:17Speaker 1: He sounded h Wayne you with they have my mind
- 19:20Speaker 1: thinking bout that they pop. Let go to the studio,
- 19:22Speaker 1: because my dad came out to the club that night,
- 19:24Speaker 1: like Paul, let's go to the studio. We go to
- 19:26Speaker 1: the studio. You know what I'm saying. We in ure
- 19:28Speaker 1: smoking water water water. He was like, uh, you want
- 19:31Speaker 1: to get in the studio you feel like rapping. I
- 19:34Speaker 1: was like, here, yeah, what play me some beats. It's
- 19:38Speaker 1: baseball the first time you play lifestyle. But when I
- 19:43Speaker 1: first heard it, like, I was like, I thought it
- 19:46Speaker 1: was Wayne. Looked at my dad like that Wayne, you know,
- 19:49Speaker 1: you know that's stuff like boy, this nigga thub boy,
- 19:52Speaker 1: it's crazy crazy. So then it was like it's a
- 19:55Speaker 1: verst not going. I did the first probably like fifteen minutes,
- 19:58Speaker 1: laid it down, Lady down Man. I heard on the
- 20:01Speaker 1: radio two weeks later. Radio two weeks later. It was
- 20:05Speaker 1: kind of like a perfect mixture of like, your buzz
- 20:08Speaker 1: was crazy, you had hit records already, Doug was bubbling,
- 20:13Speaker 1: Stoner was going on, you know what I'm saying, But
- 20:15Speaker 1: you guys coming together, it was like it was just
- 20:17Speaker 1: something crazy. And then with the Birdman approval, Yeah, it
- 20:20Speaker 1: was you know what I mean, like us being young,
- 20:23Speaker 1: like I wasn't like we was supposed to go through
- 20:25Speaker 1: what we went through. You feel me like we was
- 20:28Speaker 1: supposed to Like that moment was supposed to happen. Yeah,
- 20:31Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It wasn't forced. You can
- 20:33Speaker 1: hear it in the music, like you know what I mean.
- 20:35Speaker 1: After after Lifestyle, that's when we decided, like man, y'all
- 20:38Speaker 1: boys gotta be in the studio every day, Right, it
- 20:41Speaker 1: was just come out, come out and put the project out.
- 20:43Speaker 1: You were kind of a part of a lot of
- 20:45Speaker 1: the infancy stages of a lot of what we consider
- 20:48Speaker 1: kind of pillars in hip hop production these days. Right,
- 20:50Speaker 1: I'm talking about metro booming. I'm talking so unting on
- 20:53Speaker 1: the track going and on for you, Like who would
- 20:57Speaker 1: you say was the producer that is still relevant today
- 21:00Speaker 1: that you had the best chemistry with? What producers? Did
- 21:06Speaker 1: I have the best chemistry with? Mm hmmm, because like
- 21:12Speaker 1: none of my songs, like I never used none, like
- 21:14Speaker 1: the same producers on none of my big songs. But
- 21:17Speaker 1: I would say, like who I had great chemistry? Rick,
- 21:21Speaker 1: I'm still working with that deal nice. He was on
- 21:23Speaker 1: their risk game, be heavy and he just did risk
- 21:27Speaker 1: takers for me. Who else? Uh? I don't know. Jay
- 21:32Speaker 1: Toven has always just been critical because like you just
- 21:35Speaker 1: called Zay whatever man the og in the game, you
- 21:39Speaker 1: know what I mean trying to say to a lot
- 21:41Speaker 1: of people don't know he's actually from the bank for reals.
- 21:44Speaker 1: Oh you just dropped though. That's that's the that's a
- 21:47Speaker 1: fat fun fact for today. I did not know that
- 21:49Speaker 1: he just did a whole album with three or four
- 21:52Speaker 1: artists from San Francisco. That's hard. People don't know that
- 21:58Speaker 1: that's where some of his roots are because you know,
- 22:00Speaker 1: everyone is. He's synonymous with Atlanta, as he should be.
- 22:03Speaker 1: But I should have known that good as hell he got. Yeah,
- 22:06Speaker 1: that good heaven Yo. You talked about a day where
- 22:09Speaker 1: you were at Gucci Mane's house. The Migos were there,
- 22:12Speaker 1: Doug was there, Scooter was there, Gucci Maine. I always say,
- 22:17Speaker 1: probably is the greatest an R in hip hop history.
- 22:20Speaker 1: But but like what I what, he don't get enough
- 22:22Speaker 1: credit for. He sees it, and he be right eighty
- 22:27Speaker 1: nine percent of the time, and he sees it before
- 22:29Speaker 1: it happens. Even I'm talking sign the artist, right, listen, man,
- 22:34Speaker 1: Rpter Doph Dolph was over there too, listen, man, Then
- 22:38Speaker 1: Guwak was pulling up on me at my mama. Dolph
- 22:41Speaker 1: was at the house at the same time. Nah, this
- 22:42Speaker 1: is a different moment. So Gucci trying to sign me.
- 22:45Speaker 1: So now thugs already signed the Gucci. He had the
- 22:49Speaker 1: Migos too, he was he had the migos too for
- 22:51Speaker 1: he went to jail. You know what I'm saying. So
- 22:53Speaker 1: they all over there, so you know they're trying to
- 22:54Speaker 1: real coin in so I'm stalling them out. I'm stalling
- 22:57Speaker 1: them out. So I come at am out of time.
- 23:00Speaker 1: He like, Man, where you at. I'm like, bro, I'm
- 23:01Speaker 1: at my mama house. But I'm really just like, you know,
- 23:03Speaker 1: I might go. I may not feel to come pick
- 23:05Speaker 1: you up. I was like, uh, I at my mama house.
- 23:10Speaker 1: He was like, niggam outside, I go outside. I was like, man,
- 23:13Speaker 1: but my girl would tell her to come on to
- 23:15Speaker 1: wow out here. Come pick me up, man, and come
- 23:17Speaker 1: pick me up. In the Red Bentley he was like, yeah,
- 23:20Speaker 1: when the two people got these in the USA, he
- 23:23Speaker 1: pipping it. Dolph in the car with the first time
- 23:25Speaker 1: and me though, so Dolphin, Gucci, pick you up from
- 23:27Speaker 1: your mom's house. Yeah, from my mama house. Then me
- 23:30Speaker 1: and Dog would go, but he was living in Atlantic Station,
- 23:33Speaker 1: and I just remember seeing Dolph on them because I
- 23:36Speaker 1: didn't know, Like at this time, I didn't I'm not
- 23:38Speaker 1: Dolph is not dolphed Off yet, you know what I'm saying,
- 23:40Speaker 1: Like nobody, I'm not. I'm not even rich on the
- 23:42Speaker 1: coin yet, right, you know what I'm saying. But Dogs
- 23:46Speaker 1: is like standing up sleep on the elevator. We both
- 23:49Speaker 1: spend the night in goose living room, you and Dolf
- 23:52Speaker 1: crashing on the couches and Gucci's living room. Yeah, but
- 23:54Speaker 1: be cause we couldn't go home. He was like, you know,
- 23:56Speaker 1: it's a friendly kidnaped, Like, you ain't going home to
- 23:58Speaker 1: this a work kidnap, Deen, But we hadn't work. Yeah,
- 24:00Speaker 1: so I know, like, yeah, Brin mind you and my
- 24:03Speaker 1: girls here too. Girls. Yeah, man, let me get this straight.
- 24:06Speaker 1: So Gucci pulls up to your house and the Red
- 24:08Speaker 1: Benley with young Dolph, friendly kidnaps you and your lady.
- 24:12Speaker 1: You guys in up better't house. You end up crashing
- 24:14Speaker 1: there in the living room with Dolphin because Gucci is
- 24:18Speaker 1: courting you to sign with with Grick Squad. No, I
- 24:21Speaker 1: wouldn't even just yeah, he wanted me to sign. Yeah,
- 24:24Speaker 1: he wanted me to sign, So you go over to
- 24:25Speaker 1: his house. You guys in the recording, we didn't. We didn't.
- 24:28Speaker 1: I don't even know, man, because he was upstair man
- 24:30Speaker 1: some ship down, you know what I'm saying, because like
- 24:32Speaker 1: the logs, like they ain't have no door, Like I
- 24:35Speaker 1: don't want up there handling my handling being like I'm like, man, cold, man,
- 24:41Speaker 1: this is kind of weird. At this point in the
- 24:42Speaker 1: living room, he's up there fucking snoring. You know what
- 24:45Speaker 1: I'm saying, Man, I'm trying to need some ship, you
- 24:48Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But you know what I'm saying.
- 24:50Speaker 1: It was a moment, bro, Like you know what I'm saying. Wow,
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- 25:57Speaker 1: get back to the interview. What made you not end up?
- 26:00Speaker 1: Did you end up choosing t Ig over some of
- 26:03Speaker 1: your other people? Obviously Gucci was on the table. You know,
- 26:09Speaker 1: I kind of just wanted to do something different, man,
- 26:11Speaker 1: Like I was the first artist signed the TG. Fly
- 26:17Speaker 1: had this store in Atlantic car Fly Kiss, and Fly
- 26:20Speaker 1: Kiss was like New York's flight Club, you know what
- 26:23Speaker 1: I'm saying. Okay, but it was on the street of
- 26:25Speaker 1: Peter Street, and on Peter Street, it was a lot
- 26:28Speaker 1: of studio. It's a studio on Peter Street. It was
- 26:30Speaker 1: like it's like a little fun place like people but
- 26:33Speaker 1: his store you were, it was the spot like even
- 26:35Speaker 1: if you weren't buying clothes, Pop would just go there
- 26:38Speaker 1: to kick it, drop CDs all you know. It was
- 26:41Speaker 1: just kind of like fair facts out here, maybe exactly exactly,
- 26:43Speaker 1: like just to have some emotions, just got to act
- 26:45Speaker 1: with you know, emotion And I don't know, I just
- 26:50Speaker 1: goot feeling trusted him. I feel me like I just
- 26:52Speaker 1: followed my good and I started talking out for a
- 26:54Speaker 1: minute two you know what I'm saying, I'm gonna good
- 26:56Speaker 1: with stall him because I tried to fill off energies
- 26:58Speaker 1: and vibes and I trusted. It wasn't for a lot
- 27:02Speaker 1: of money, but I would Gucci offered me more money. Yeah,
- 27:05Speaker 1: you feel me like I remember that. Well, I think it.
- 27:07Speaker 1: I mean, I think it did work out for you
- 27:09Speaker 1: because you obviously have a lot of But I bet
- 27:13Speaker 1: it on myself though. I was willing to bet on
- 27:15Speaker 1: myself and take that chance though, because like I got
- 27:19Speaker 1: offered more money else places. It's just I knew what
- 27:22Speaker 1: I had and I trusted. I trusted like man, you know,
- 27:27Speaker 1: I trusted. I'm not saying I wouldn't have trusted Gucci,
- 27:29Speaker 1: but I kind of want to make a new staple,
- 27:34Speaker 1: change the narrative and be a part of something, be
- 27:38Speaker 1: a part of of Atlanta history in my own ways.
- 27:41Speaker 1: And you and now they think when you think of
- 27:44Speaker 1: that drop Thicke, it's a game that's that's like just
- 27:48Speaker 1: I know that because of you. You know what I mean? Yeah,
- 27:53Speaker 1: showed that, But it's like I said, I just wanted
- 27:56Speaker 1: to I didn't really want to come. I wanted to
- 27:59Speaker 1: grind without coat sign man, because like my great the
- 28:03Speaker 1: people I looked up to like Gucci's and they didn't
- 28:05Speaker 1: have one, so I didn't want one. I wanted to
- 28:07Speaker 1: be looked at, like on the same level. Less than
- 28:10Speaker 1: one day. I want to get through the new music.
- 28:12Speaker 1: But I gotta ask you because I remember living in
- 28:14Speaker 1: the South and I would hear some of these numbers
- 28:17Speaker 1: that would get talked around about what kind of brown
- 28:19Speaker 1: baggers peace, specifically in the Tampa Saint Pete area. Listen,
- 28:23Speaker 1: man ain't gonna like I went crazy and you were
- 28:26Speaker 1: getting I don't think people understand there was a show
- 28:31Speaker 1: you did in Tampa and I had never seen the
- 28:34Speaker 1: city more excited for somebody outside of when Boozy got out. Yeah, bro,
- 28:39Speaker 1: it was insane. Yeah, like the bads it was getting
- 28:45Speaker 1: in and like because like by the time some type
- 28:49Speaker 1: of Way came out the world it went global. But
- 28:52Speaker 1: I was already in Florida from the differences and can't
- 28:55Speaker 1: judge her. So I was in Florida the whole year
- 28:58Speaker 1: before some type of Way came out, So I was
- 29:01Speaker 1: already up. You know what I'm saying. You just had
- 29:04Speaker 1: so many hood classics that pop, Like what would you
- 29:06Speaker 1: do with so big in a club? Even like your feet,
- 29:08Speaker 1: like I know was a record still to this day,
- 29:11Speaker 1: even like I still like Florida and Carolina and like
- 29:15Speaker 1: my biggest market is like I don't care, what is
- 29:17Speaker 1: that in Florida. I'm going to Florida twice and money
- 29:19Speaker 1: you get for sure, for sure, for sure. Yeah. It
- 29:22Speaker 1: was wild because I just remember like I would host
- 29:24Speaker 1: these remotes at DTLR, and at this time there was
- 29:28Speaker 1: Jewel House, Boozy's clothing line, there was Ritual Y Kuan
- 29:31Speaker 1: Ship and then the wire and ship was herself. It's
- 29:35Speaker 1: like it was like an era that was like so special.
- 29:38Speaker 1: When I think back, I'm like, damn, like I'm glad
- 29:41Speaker 1: I was living there during that time. Yeah, because I'm
- 29:44Speaker 1: not sure I would have appreciated it being in La
- 29:46Speaker 1: or you know, on the West coast. But but you're
- 29:48Speaker 1: right though, because it's different. Man, even like with Florida. Now,
- 29:52Speaker 1: how many Florida to the artist? You see they mergeing them,
- 29:55Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? Like, man, like Plies like
- 29:58Speaker 1: was a big influence, even like to be on such
- 30:01Speaker 1: similar shows with him, like that's matter. Yeah, because Plas
- 30:05Speaker 1: had ran off on the plug twice. Yeah. Like it's
- 30:07Speaker 1: like he keeps saying up you know what I mean
- 30:09Speaker 1: that even with him being actively on the social media
- 30:13Speaker 1: like that, So it's like, you know what I mean,
- 30:15Speaker 1: that's something that's the line I'm lacking in because you know,
- 30:17Speaker 1: I'm very private, man. I try to keep myself not
- 30:22Speaker 1: accessible like that bro to, you know, to keep the
- 30:25Speaker 1: confusion now and you know, keep me out of the
- 30:28Speaker 1: way and keep me sane. Man, that's important. This new body,
- 30:32Speaker 1: you work any features on it? Well, not this new body,
- 30:36Speaker 1: no features? I like that. Yeah, you know we had
- 30:38Speaker 1: just did the one I did the feature with no
- 30:40Speaker 1: cap and you know, I'm not really big on features
- 30:43Speaker 1: on my own songs, you know, like I always I
- 30:46Speaker 1: mean really, if you think your biggest solo records, I
- 30:48Speaker 1: mean really the problem feature was kind of like at
- 30:52Speaker 1: the time, problem was like he had like what you
- 30:54Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, But that was like a cool
- 30:57Speaker 1: emergence of like what was going on in LA. It
- 31:01Speaker 1: was like Atlanta Mes, Like I mean Atlanta Mes, Like
- 31:04Speaker 1: your biggest records that are solo are just you. Yeah,
- 31:07Speaker 1: And That's what I'm saying. So it's like it's never
- 31:10Speaker 1: like I needed anyone for the hit. I was the
- 31:14Speaker 1: hit maker, so and nothing like I don't I'm not
- 31:17Speaker 1: taking nothing away from nobody because I've I've worked with
- 31:20Speaker 1: some incredible talent. But man, I just love music so much. Bro.
- 31:26Speaker 1: Even when I wanted to quit, I just couldn't. Many
- 31:30Speaker 1: Like I say, I don't got no, I didn't have
- 31:32Speaker 1: no plan B. This se is the plan B. I
- 31:34Speaker 1: put all my chips in and even though it didn't work,
- 31:37Speaker 1: I gotta make it work. I gotta make it work.
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- 32:44Speaker 1: and the podcast at the same fucking time. Let's get
- 32:46Speaker 1: back to the interview. Little Dicky bagged you up to
- 32:48Speaker 1: do the Little Dickie record. Yeah, spend that money, Yeah,
- 32:52Speaker 1: say that money. I have the plaque here somewhere that's
- 32:55Speaker 1: in the other room. Did you have any idea who
- 32:58Speaker 1: little Dicky was, because I know he paid you for
- 33:00Speaker 1: the future full price, full price, like he did he
- 33:03Speaker 1: he paid you for the future, Like did you have
- 33:05Speaker 1: any clue like about his wave or I knew nothing
- 33:10Speaker 1: about it, but I can tell you this. When they
- 33:12Speaker 1: sent the song, I knew he could rap immediately. It's
- 33:16Speaker 1: different like I was after because I didn't know, but
- 33:20Speaker 1: I wanted to meet him. And the way he died,
- 33:23Speaker 1: the way he was so hands on with his business.
- 33:28Speaker 1: I had never saw that, you know what I mean,
- 33:30Speaker 1: because you know, of course, like I have a great team,
- 33:33Speaker 1: but the way he was, like he's a perfectionist, like
- 33:36Speaker 1: a perfectionist, like paid me for the full verse. The
- 33:40Speaker 1: way he cut my verse off, I thought was genius.
- 33:44Speaker 1: But I was going I started going off too, so
- 33:46Speaker 1: I was like, because I did a whole sixteen so
- 33:49Speaker 1: it's like, yo, man, you paid for the verses. He
- 33:50Speaker 1: didn't use it, but like it was part of the creativity. Yeah,
- 33:54Speaker 1: he pulled up to my house to shoot it, like
- 33:56Speaker 1: he wouldn't take No, it was at my grandma house.
- 33:58Speaker 1: He didn't care. He was out in the hood, no security.
- 34:03Speaker 1: I think it's uh man, and I think a dude. No, No,
- 34:08Speaker 1: he's big, like skinned with a ball here forgot his name.
- 34:12Speaker 1: Got like a little beer though, but yeah, it ended
- 34:15Speaker 1: up being a classic, No it did. Man, I think
- 34:17Speaker 1: with double time platinum man crazy, it's just some dude
- 34:20Speaker 1: hit you. Yeah for me just being high though, and
- 34:24Speaker 1: you gotta think, like when I'm doing frat party and stuff,
- 34:26Speaker 1: I still perform that song. It's like it depends on
- 34:29Speaker 1: what you gotta run. I want, like I wouldn't do
- 34:33Speaker 1: that song in temple, but like if I'm in l
- 34:35Speaker 1: A or if I'm at a college frat park, definitely
- 34:39Speaker 1: we're going up. Like we're going up like Mike Crowder.
- 34:42Speaker 1: I wouldn't even do like Mamo citter In in the temple.
- 34:45Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's for like like it's
- 34:49Speaker 1: like it's it's ratchet, you know, it's you know what
- 34:51Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's like when you got a catalall
- 34:54Speaker 1: like that. Depending on where we're at in the world,
- 34:57Speaker 1: the you know, the playlist changes, but it changed now
- 35:01Speaker 1: that you're independent. Now that you are I guess just
- 35:06Speaker 1: free of any obligations where you can just create freely. Now,
- 35:10Speaker 1: are you gonna put out music a lot more frequently now,
- 35:14Speaker 1: of course I'm putting out music more frequently. Uh. We
- 35:18Speaker 1: just dropped on October fourth, which was my birthday. I'm
- 35:21Speaker 1: coming back November eighteenth, and this is the most frequently
- 35:25Speaker 1: I've ever been active. In a minute, I was gonna say,
- 35:28Speaker 1: your first mixtape series, what was it? I'll never stop
- 35:30Speaker 1: going still going in. But the first one was I
- 35:33Speaker 1: go in on every song, Okay, a classic, Yes, I
- 35:38Speaker 1: go in on every song, still going in, still going there,
- 35:42Speaker 1: and reloaded. I promise I will never stop going in.
- 35:46Speaker 1: We get a fifth one there, still going in there,
- 35:49Speaker 1: still going in. Series. Saga is not over. It's not over.
- 35:52Speaker 1: It's not over. I'm thinking about it might be my
- 35:55Speaker 1: next album, I think, but I don't think the next
- 35:57Speaker 1: one's gonna be a mixtape. So the next might be
- 35:58Speaker 1: an album, you know what I mean? Today with the
- 36:01Speaker 1: stream and so it's definitely not open man, Like I'm
- 36:04Speaker 1: still because I'm still going in and I'll never be
- 36:08Speaker 1: able to relate that life. So I can just hope
- 36:09Speaker 1: I can create some new memories. Man, yo, man, well,
- 36:12Speaker 1: I know you gotta catch a flight. So the new
- 36:15Speaker 1: project is out? You got you just dropped in October,
- 36:18Speaker 1: like you said this October for Feminine Mulah. We got
- 36:22Speaker 1: the we got the single Risk Takers, which is going
- 36:26Speaker 1: crazy on we got the dog cap feature with bigger jeans,
- 36:29Speaker 1: which is going crazy. Is there anybody like I was
- 36:31Speaker 1: gonna say, who you kind of see as somebody who's
- 36:34Speaker 1: got that same gift that you have to just fucking
- 36:36Speaker 1: closed the eyes and make hits as part of the
- 36:38Speaker 1: newer generation. Uh, I might guess I'm slander with this man,
- 36:42Speaker 1: but I think Kodak is tremendously amazing. It nont matter
- 36:46Speaker 1: what he says, Like I like, I like his versatility,
- 36:50Speaker 1: Like he don't have just one set flow. He's unorthodox,
- 36:53Speaker 1: you can't. You don't know how he's gonna come on.
- 36:56Speaker 1: So I love that. Yeah, I think Kodak is on
- 36:58Speaker 1: the like Mount USh More of the last like five
- 37:01Speaker 1: years of rap, maybe six years. You know, it's crazy
- 37:03Speaker 1: because he was like right after your guy this era,
- 37:07Speaker 1: and because he was like twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, yeah,
- 37:10Speaker 1: like around time UZI don popping and stuff, but he
- 37:13Speaker 1: was different. But you could hear it. It was it's
- 37:16Speaker 1: the ratchetness, but you can hear the you can hear
- 37:19Speaker 1: the dedication and real talented. You know, that's what I'm
- 37:22Speaker 1: That's what I mean. Like the beat selection, you know,
- 37:26Speaker 1: it's a different flow. It's the word like it's alien. Yeah,
- 37:30Speaker 1: for sure he got it. As you are my friend
- 37:32Speaker 1: rich Homie Kwan one of the greatest. I appreciate that,
- 37:36Speaker 1: one of the most influential motherfuckers alive. They know, they know.
- 37:39Speaker 1: Come on, man, I appreciate you pulling up bank. You
- 37:41Speaker 1: care man, Thank you, Bro.