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Furness Show 5-21: Eddie Olczyk, Eno Sarris, Corbin Smith · The Ian Furness Show

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  Speaker 1: First of all, before we get to the Mariners. Just
• 0:02
  Speaker 1: when I can tell you this, I didn't have no confession.
• 0:04
  Speaker 1: Did not watch a second of it last night. Good
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  Speaker 1: job for you.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, no sports then today.
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: No sports confession because I did not. I checked the score.
• 0:14
  Speaker 1: I thought it was close, and I made the call.
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: I said, I can't watch them, can't watch them. I will,
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: I cannot watch them. Instead, after the hockey game was over,
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: I caught the second half of the Sun and the
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: Storm with our friend Dick Feaned on the call, Charleston. Yes,
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: so I watched some of that and just avoided at
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: all costs anything having to do with the pukes down
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  Speaker 1: in Oklahoma City.
• 0:38
  Speaker 2: So I love that you have adopted my given name.
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  Speaker 1: I am all in on that. So yeah, I just
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: I couldn't. I just couldn't. I couldn't do it, man,
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  Speaker 1: I could not stomach it. I can't do it. I'm
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: I'm all out. I I may watch a little bit, man. No,
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  Speaker 1: it's the same time as as Caroline. I want you all,
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  Speaker 1: but I would be more inclined if I have to
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  Speaker 1: or need to. I could watch a little bit of
• 0:58
  Speaker 1: the Nicks and the Calves, but I can't watch those
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: other guys. Yeah, yeah, and I love Wemby. How can
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  Speaker 1: you be a basketball I give me be a sports fan,
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  Speaker 1: not like what you see with Wemby.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that challenge, but I'm not, but I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Not, but I can't do it. If they win, then
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  Speaker 1: we move on. But no sports confessions today.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, with no marriage game last night either, that's especially
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  Speaker 3: hard for Ian Forness to do.
• 1:21
  Speaker 1: Real quick, before we go any further, Jessman has the
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  Speaker 1: word thousand dollars word for the hour.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, would it be grand to win a grand It's
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  Speaker 4: the Grand Slam Cash contest presented by iHeart Radio. And uh,
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  Speaker 4: this word of the hour is grand And I'm not
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  Speaker 4: going to spell that for you, but if you go
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  Speaker 4: to nine three three KJR dot com, it will immediately
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  Speaker 4: prompt you to enter that word.
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  Speaker 1: There's just one spelling is in g R A N D.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Can you grande grandee?
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  Speaker 2: And you go to a Starbucks, you know they spell
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  Speaker 2: it differently. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 4: So anyway, grand in one thousand dollars that you could win,
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  Speaker 4: and we've got it for you. Just go to the
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  Speaker 4: website immediately prompted enter it right there. It'll take you
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  Speaker 4: two seconds.
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  Speaker 1: So not venty, not grande, no, not tall, not tall.
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  Speaker 2: Not flat, not white, no, yeah, none of those.
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  Speaker 1: What of the what's the what's the size of the
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  Speaker 1: the iced coffees you normally get us?
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  Speaker 2: Those are VENTI ventis yeah, yeah it means twenty.
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  Speaker 1: That's like it is. Okay, Yeah, there we go.
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  Speaker 3: It's Spanish if you guys haven't it's Italian? Oh is
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  Speaker 3: it Italian?
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  Speaker 2: Well it's also Spanish like Romance languages the side.
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  Speaker 1: But yes, no idea, Oh I know, it's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of caffeine. You can even get bigger.
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  Speaker 2: I just tell I can tell when I want you
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  Speaker 2: can get.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what's that like? Just like thirty eight thirty ounces?
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  Speaker 1: That's a lot. God, I like my caffeine.
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  Speaker 2: Do I am guilty as charged? I have done a trent.
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  Speaker 1: Of valuable time? Would be that would be a lot.
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  Speaker 6: Well.
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  Speaker 1: The other thing is when you get an iced coffee.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, there's a lot of three.
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  Speaker 1: Of his ice Yes, all right, so you got to
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  Speaker 1: get the big size.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, but yes, when I can tell that Ian might
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  Speaker 4: need one, because I'm usually on the same page, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I'm going to Starbucks.
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  Speaker 2: Would you like one?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: Anyway, Yeah, he's usually like training camp.
• 3:25
  Speaker 6: Or the draft.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Here's what's coming up on the show. We
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  Speaker 1: got busy show coming up today, ed Zoe Adi old
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  Speaker 1: Check's going to join us here at twelve twenty today.
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  Speaker 1: He's got some things on his mind. I'm sure he does.
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  Speaker 6: He's good. Yes, did you confirm?
• 3:38
  Speaker 2: Yes, he just got back to me.
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  Speaker 1: Excellent. Yes, it's interesting. He gets ten minutes before. It's interesting.
• 3:42
  Speaker 1: He gets back to you, but not me.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, he'll be around twelve twelve twenty three, he said.
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  Speaker 1: Nice, Wait he gave you a specific twelve twenty two,
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  Speaker 1: twelve twenty three.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm like, I haven't gotten that all year.
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  Speaker 4: I am a producer, he said, a few minutes after
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  Speaker 4: twelve twenty, which is usually when we get back to
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  Speaker 4: you know.
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  Speaker 1: It's fine trying. I'm wrapping my arms around a guy
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  Speaker 1: that would that would literally blow into the booth. Are
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  Speaker 1: we are we?
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  Speaker 6: Hey?
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  Speaker 1: Are we rehearsing today? Yes? Yes, but we get it
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  Speaker 1: ten minutes ago. We are we live? Yes, we are.
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  Speaker 1: It's he's a beauty. I love the guy to death.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, listen, he's with a major producer right now.
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  Speaker 6: He is.
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  Speaker 1: He is as opposed to Ryan Schaber our normal guy.
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  Speaker 2: No shame, no shade.
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  Speaker 1: Any He's got some stuff to say and I listen,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna lean on him.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not.
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  Speaker 1: We'll touch briefly on the on the series he's covering,
• 4:42
  Speaker 1: which is a carolinea Montreal. But really what I want
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  Speaker 1: to get into him with period is just this hockey team.
• 4:49
  Speaker 1: I see stuff on the text line all the time.
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  Speaker 1: They're doing it audit. We haven't really heard anything about it.
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  Speaker 1: People are getting Nancy free agency's coming up, drafts coming up.
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  Speaker 1: I just I'm just gonna asking, like, like we're watching
• 5:00
  Speaker 1: conference finals right now. This is a team three years
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  Speaker 1: ago was one goal away from the conference finals, one
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  Speaker 1: goal away game seven second round, one goal away from
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  Speaker 1: the conference finals, and they feel like they're a long
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  Speaker 1: ways away? How can they get back? We'll get to
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  Speaker 1: that with him. Trust me, even if you're not a
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  Speaker 1: hockey fan, you'll be entertained of Venzo. While one twenty
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  Speaker 1: Ino Sarahs is going to join us. Great day to
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  Speaker 1: have Eno one from the Athletic. His kind of expertise
• 5:25
  Speaker 1: both on his podcast, Rates and Barrels and also just
• 5:27
  Speaker 1: when he writes for the stuff for the for the
• 5:29
  Speaker 1: Athletic is pitching. So we'll get into this whole piggyback
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  Speaker 1: stuff with him because that's kind of a big, big
• 5:38
  Speaker 1: topic here and it's going to come up again in
• 5:39
  Speaker 1: a few days, right, and you know it's it's worth discussing.
• 5:44
  Speaker 1: Does it work? Does it not work? I heard Ashley
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  Speaker 1: say today and I kind of tend to agree with her.
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  Speaker 1: The whole piggyback thing on Tuesday kind of felt like
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  Speaker 1: it it was about an eighty five percent success rate,
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  Speaker 1: Like eighty five percent of it worked really well. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the prom is the other fifteen percent because the other
• 6:03
  Speaker 1: fifteen percent ended up being a loss and how things ended.
• 6:08
  Speaker 1: So we'll talk to him about that and where this
• 6:10
  Speaker 1: baseball team is and kind of get a feel for
• 6:12
  Speaker 1: all things baseball with you know, coming up at one
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  Speaker 1: twenty today and we're gonna just keep it rolling, man, Listen.
• 6:18
  Speaker 1: I know Seahawks are still the main thing in town
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  Speaker 1: are today always will be. We've got stuff to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: I know he was on last week, but I don't
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  Speaker 1: think Corbyn was on before the schedule was announced, right,
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  Speaker 1: because he would have been on before the schedules announce
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  Speaker 1: at four he would have been on his day one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there was all the leaks and stuff right, but
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  Speaker 3: not officially. We'll go through a little bit of the
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  Speaker 3: schedule with him, also the thought process behind getting to
• 6:42
  Speaker 3: eighteen games, which feels like it's inevitable now an eighteen
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  Speaker 3: game schedule for the NFL. But there's a lot to
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  Speaker 3: discuss with Corbyn. We got OTAs. Next week we will
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  Speaker 3: be we I will be at the Virginia Mason Athletics
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  Speaker 3: Center on Tuesday for the first of the open OTAs.
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  Speaker 1: We can attend. They start at noon on Tuesday, So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: excited to be out there on that day, see what's
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  Speaker 1: going on. We'll get a player on probably right around
• 7:08
  Speaker 1: two thirty next Tuesday, and then a couple more of
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  Speaker 1: the following week and then we'll get into mini camp,
• 7:16
  Speaker 1: which is mandatory. That's later in June before they go
• 7:20
  Speaker 1: away for about a month and a half and then
• 7:22
  Speaker 1: come back for training camp. And when that starts, that
• 7:24
  Speaker 1: means football season is here. At the end of the
• 7:25
  Speaker 1: summer is here. Almost fun things And people say, wait
• 7:27
  Speaker 1: a second, we haven't started the summer yet. No, we
• 7:29
  Speaker 1: have not. Nope, we have not. But the summer is
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  Speaker 1: going to be upon us and it's going to be
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  Speaker 1: here really quick. So yeah, so we'll see how conversation
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  Speaker 1: today as well. We'll table till maybe twelve forty five
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  Speaker 1: one o'clock. The conversation yesterday in T Mobile Park involving
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  Speaker 1: a lot of different parties, but most important party of
• 7:47
  Speaker 1: all was JP Crawford. Well, first of all, big the
• 7:51
  Speaker 1: fact that they on a micro level, they won the game,
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  Speaker 1: won the series. That's great, need to do that. They
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  Speaker 1: probably they needed a win after what happened on two.
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  Speaker 1: That team desperately needed to win. They needed a series win.
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  Speaker 1: But the bigger news and kind of a more macro
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  Speaker 1: level as we look forward and down the road and
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  Speaker 1: the rest of the season, in the next few years
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  Speaker 1: and all those things, is that your current starting shortstop
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  Speaker 1: a team leader, a guy that is a team leader
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  Speaker 1: not just in the team, but also certainly for the infield.
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  Speaker 1: In JP Crawford, who's had a hell of a year
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  Speaker 1: at the bat, says, yeah, man, I'm willing to move
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  Speaker 1: to third base, and I'm willing to do whatever I
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  Speaker 1: want to stay here that's the best opportunity, then that's
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  Speaker 1: what I'm going to do. Very selfless, really kind of
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  Speaker 1: a you know, like they could have just said this
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  Speaker 1: is what you're going to do. But to have a
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  Speaker 1: player of his stature and his longevity, his equity buy
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  Speaker 1: into it and actually kind of be out out in
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  Speaker 1: front of it with cold Emerson here, I think says
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  Speaker 1: a lot about JP Crawford, says a lot about JP Crawford,
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  Speaker 1: and a lot about the leadership he has and who
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  Speaker 1: he is. And I think it was a big thing.
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  Speaker 1: But we'll talk about that a little bit as well
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  Speaker 1: as the day goes on. All right, So busy show
• 8:59
  Speaker 1: coming up to four nine, that is, let's come a
• 9:03
  Speaker 1: Dodge text line, Red microphone, iHeartRadio, Apple, way we go.
• 9:06
  Speaker 1: You know who we have not heard from for a while.
• 9:08
  Speaker 1: Can I put a request out there?
• 9:10
  Speaker 6: Clifford's cliff Clifford.
• 9:12
  Speaker 1: Where is Clifford? Well, and he's disappeared from the promos
• 9:16
  Speaker 1: from iHeart Corporate hasn't sent us to Clifford promos.
• 9:19
  Speaker 2: But he's Clifford.
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: Four Did Clifford get canceled?
• 9:22
  Speaker 7: Uh?
• 9:23
  Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know what you say.
• 9:24
  Speaker 2: Maybe he's just not in the rotation in our market.
• 9:27
  Speaker 1: Bringing Softy on probably got him canceled. Oh yeah, Dining
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: with Dave or driving with Dave?
• 9:33
  Speaker 6: Whatever it is? All right?
• 9:34
  Speaker 1: Ed Zoe joins us.
• 9:35
  Speaker 8: Next now back Dean Furness on your Home for the Huskies,
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  Speaker 8: Cracking and the twelfth Man, brought to you by Seattle's
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  Speaker 8: closest Snow call Me Casino and Hotel on Sports Radio
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  Speaker 8: ninety three point three kJ r FM.
• 9:56
  Speaker 3: Nicely, nicely done with the old Crackinghawk Network music going
• 10:02
  Speaker 3: have the little butterflies on my tummy all of a sudden, going,
• 10:04
  Speaker 3: oh yeah, we're doing a pregame show. I don't know,
• 10:07
  Speaker 3: a little nervous. Ah, here we go. I've been waiting
• 10:11
  Speaker 3: to do this for a while. Get him on the phone,
• 10:13
  Speaker 3: get him on the air. I've had people texting in
• 10:15
  Speaker 3: people ask me when is ed Ze coming on the show,
• 10:18
  Speaker 3: and I said, well, he's been on the Morning Show
• 10:20
  Speaker 3: a couple of times, I see with Chuck and Ashley.
• 10:23
  Speaker 3: So now that you've dealt with some professional radio people
• 10:26
  Speaker 3: in sports radio, Zoll, welcome to this little Gong show.
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: How are you, my friend?
• 10:32
  Speaker 9: Yeah, Gong Show, it is here.
• 10:34
  Speaker 6: We are, buddy, How you doing? I'm may I got
• 10:38
  Speaker 6: to say, I hope, I hope you did mention the
• 10:41
  Speaker 6: morning show. Yeah, Chuck and Ashley having me on, and
• 10:45
  Speaker 6: they actually I had me on twice last week because
• 10:49
  Speaker 6: we teased for some people don't know my moonlight as
• 10:52
  Speaker 6: a handicapper and NBC for Triple Crown coverage for the
• 10:56
  Speaker 6: Kentucky Derby, and I don't work the I don't work
• 10:59
  Speaker 6: to preat because hockey has gotten in the way of
• 11:01
  Speaker 6: my horse racing. But that's for another story as well.
• 11:04
  Speaker 6: I UH told him that they could call me on
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  Speaker 6: Friday morning and I would give them a little bit
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  Speaker 6: of a pick, and actually we did okay for the
• 11:13
  Speaker 6: listeners back there and in seatown, so hopefully they heard
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  Speaker 6: my pick of UH of number ten with the nine
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  Speaker 6: horse and it came in exactly nine ten and Napoleon
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  Speaker 6: sorry ten nine and Napoleon Solo got the money. So
• 11:28
  Speaker 6: we're we're pretty happy. And I actually have an envelow
• 11:31
  Speaker 6: for Ashley and she knows what I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 2: I see, how do I get an Enlow conversation?
• 11:39
  Speaker 1: Yes, because I saw that he was on with them,
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: and I was like, damn it, because I was thinking
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: the same thing before the Kentucky Derby as well. And
• 11:46
  Speaker 1: hopefully now see if we were smart, we've been listening.
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: Then busted ass down to Emerald Downs because you can
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: you can wager on the Triple Crown racers at our
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: local track here as well. So well, I'm not surprising.
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  Speaker 6: We we did, we did, we did. We did good
• 12:00
  Speaker 6: for the people and the derby, and we did really
• 12:02
  Speaker 6: well for the people in the Preaknel. So that's that's
• 12:04
  Speaker 6: where we're here. People pleasing people, I think is the
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  Speaker 6: famous phrase. So that's why you're nice to be with
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  Speaker 6: you all, and Ian always great to be with you. Hope,
• 12:12
  Speaker 6: everything's good. Family is good. And yeah, I'm in Carolina
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  Speaker 6: getting ready for our t n T coverage. We got uh,
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  Speaker 6: we got the Eastern Final. We got the Canadians and
• 12:21
  Speaker 6: the Caney acts here, the Canes, the Hurricanes and uh,
• 12:26
  Speaker 6: we'll see how this all plays out in the Eastern Conference.
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: So you're on TV, and who's who's on the call
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: with you on TV?
• 12:31
  Speaker 6: Kenny Kenny, Albert, Brian Bus and Jackie Redman I'll be
• 12:35
  Speaker 6: along with So Buddy, ready to go, Ready to go.
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: Bush was my bus buddy in Tri Cities when he
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: was a young, a young lad. Yeah yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, yes he was, and yes he is. He still
• 12:46
  Speaker 6: looks the same, that's for sure.
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: You know what it's it's terrifying because he does. He
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: absolutely does that guy, he's a good one. I tell
• 12:53
  Speaker 1: Tell Bush. I said, Hi, I will do that. And
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: Johnny's on the radio call he was on with Mike
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  Speaker 1: Bent earlier radio.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, actually and I were going to do We're teaming
• 13:01
  Speaker 6: up on Sports USA. We're going to do the We're
• 13:05
  Speaker 6: going to do the national broadcast for the Stanley Cup
• 13:07
  Speaker 6: Final this year, so people are tuning in nationally, you're
• 13:10
  Speaker 6: going to hear Johnny and I call the game the
• 13:13
  Speaker 6: Stanley Cup Final. All all four, five, six or seven
• 13:17
  Speaker 6: games in the Cup Finals. So looking forward to getting
• 13:19
  Speaker 6: back with Johnny and having a few lassie and telling
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  Speaker 6: a few.
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: Stories like we we'd like to do which and nobody
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: does it better than the two of you. Yeah, that
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: will carry those games too, both on nine to fifty AM,
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: and then we'll have those on the radio here in Seattle.
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: A right, Yeah, well, the fact it even Johnny's on
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: tonight on nine to fifty on the AMS. I really
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: want to do a deep dive into the cracking. But
• 13:37
  Speaker 1: before I get to that with you, just a real
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: quick thought. It feels kind of inevitable. Colorado and Carolina.
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  Speaker 1: Then Colorado loses Game one, the car is hurt. We'll
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: see what happens to night. Montreal with Dobis seems to
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: be kind of a fun pick right now. Handicapped the
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: conference finals real quick before we move to the cracking.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, the West to me, I heard a lot
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  Speaker 6: of people talking about it is that it was going
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  Speaker 6: to be four or five games for Colorado, and I
• 14:04
  Speaker 6: didn't see it, and again not knowing, and we did
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  Speaker 6: we TNT. We did the game where mccar got hurt,
• 14:12
  Speaker 6: and he would look like he was laboring up until
• 14:14
  Speaker 6: that point. He left the game Game five against Minnesota,
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  Speaker 6: round two, so he looked like he was, you know,
• 14:19
  Speaker 6: he was in some rough shape there. And then when
• 14:21
  Speaker 6: I found out he wasn't playing, you know, I'm like, wow,
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  Speaker 6: this the door is open here for Vegas, Like this
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  Speaker 6: is an opportunity and a half here to take advantage.
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  Speaker 6: And they did. They played almost a near perfect game.
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  Speaker 6: Now Colorado got got going late and almost almost high
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  Speaker 6: that game after being down three nothing again and backed
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  Speaker 6: up at games like they were against Minnesota. And you know,
• 14:41
  Speaker 6: they won obviously game five against Mini, but they weren't
• 14:44
  Speaker 6: able to win last night. So I think that's a
• 14:45
  Speaker 6: long series. And again I you like you hope, you
• 14:48
  Speaker 6: hope that mccar can come back. I mean, but obviously
• 14:51
  Speaker 6: he is really he is banged up, and that's not
• 14:54
  Speaker 6: a good thing for Colorado because I think in order
• 14:57
  Speaker 6: to beat Vegas, I really believe, is that if he's
• 15:00
  Speaker 6: got to be in a lineup, I give Vegas every
• 15:03
  Speaker 6: opportunity if he is not in a lineup, So it's
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  Speaker 6: one nothing. Legal'll see what happens here in the East.
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  Speaker 6: I think the biggest story ian is the long rest,
• 15:12
  Speaker 6: almost twelve days off for Carolina after going you know,
• 15:16
  Speaker 6: sweep sweep in the first two rounds in Montreal, has
• 15:18
  Speaker 6: gone games, you know, seven games, seven games. You got
• 15:22
  Speaker 6: to think at some point that this is going to
• 15:24
  Speaker 6: catch up with the Canadians and the way that Carolina plays,
• 15:27
  Speaker 6: and it's probably the wrong, you know, the wrong stylistically,
• 15:33
  Speaker 6: and you've got a team that's been living on easy
• 15:36
  Speaker 6: Street here with all this time off. And I would
• 15:39
  Speaker 6: rather have all this time off and have come off
• 15:41
  Speaker 6: of back to back game sevens. I mean, that's just
• 15:43
  Speaker 6: the way that the game is. So Carolina has got
• 15:46
  Speaker 6: a great opportunity. It's it's been on a platter for
• 15:49
  Speaker 6: him that all these playoffs. They've taken care of business.
• 15:53
  Speaker 6: So you know, we'll see in Montreal. But Montreal does
• 15:56
  Speaker 6: have that thing. I don't know what the word is,
• 15:58
  Speaker 6: but they just have that thing going on right now
• 16:01
  Speaker 6: where they win a game seven where they only get
• 16:04
  Speaker 6: nine shots on goal and round one against Tampa and
• 16:06
  Speaker 6: they went actually thirty minutes. We did that game as
• 16:08
  Speaker 6: well on TNT. They went thirty minutes to without a
• 16:11
  Speaker 6: shot on goal in a game seven and he still
• 16:13
  Speaker 6: won the game. Yeah. And then you know, they didn't
• 16:15
  Speaker 6: play great for the majority of the game against Buffalo,
• 16:19
  Speaker 6: but they did have a two to nothing lead. I
• 16:21
  Speaker 6: actually thought that they'd played better when it got to
• 16:23
  Speaker 6: tow to two. Yeah, they just seemed to re engage
• 16:27
  Speaker 6: in whatever, and then eventually, you know, you know, Alex
• 16:30
  Speaker 6: new Hook again back to that game, you know, game
• 16:32
  Speaker 6: seven OT or you know, game winning goals and the
• 16:36
  Speaker 6: other one was in you know, in overtime the other night.
• 16:38
  Speaker 6: So Carolina's got the major edge. But let's see how
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: Montreal can bounce back here after winning both the first
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: two rounds in in game seven, hey.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Old check with us. Great edge so here, all right,
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: this is what people have been asking for. They want
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: your thoughts on where the Kraken are is. Three years ago,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: this team was one goal he literally game seven to one,
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: go away from going to the conference finals, being talked about.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: As we're talking about these four teams right now, three
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: years later, they're far away, even with the kind of
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: the same core of many guys. Let me let me
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: start with I guess the audit and and your thoughts
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: when you heard there's an audit, and and what you
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: hope comes out of the audit?
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: H well, look a full disclosure here. I mean, look,
• 17:25
  Speaker 6: Aron Francis is one of my best friends. He always
• 17:28
  Speaker 6: will be, and I think he did a hell of
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: a job there. I didn't like what happened, but that's
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: that's obviously. I know where I am on a total pole.
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: My brother is still there, My brother Ricky is still
• 17:37
  Speaker 6: in AGM for bots. My my my oldest son, Eddie
• 17:42
  Speaker 6: is an amateur. And obviously I sit on a crack
• 17:44
  Speaker 6: and Hockey network and do the games for the Crack.
• 17:46
  Speaker 6: And when I heard about the audit, it was and
• 17:53
  Speaker 6: I think I've I've developed this reputation or earned this reputation,
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: is that if you ask Eddie old check something, he's
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: not going to tell you what you need to know. Uh,
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: He's going to tell you what you need to know,
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: not what you want to hear. In my opinion, uh,
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: we all you're old enough to remember, remember that I
• 18:14
  Speaker 6: can name that what was the name of that TV show?
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: I can name that tune. When I heard about the audit,
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: the first thing I thought of was is that I
• 18:23
  Speaker 6: can name that tune. I can name that audit in
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: four notes and that and that and that was my
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: honest that's my honest assessment of what I thought. You know,
• 18:33
  Speaker 6: if somebody would ask me. Nobody's asked me. They're not
• 18:35
  Speaker 6: going to and that, and that's fine, and I'm a
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: I'm just a TV guy. I understand. But I think
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: that there needs to be some aggression. I think there
• 18:44
  Speaker 6: needs to be put your plumbs on the table mentality
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: and and figure this thing out. Because when you look
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: around the league and the look away that's going, and
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: you know, if you look at the division, just look
• 18:55
  Speaker 6: at the division. Don't worry about anything else in the
• 18:57
  Speaker 6: Western Conference. If you just look at the division, you
• 19:00
  Speaker 6: sit there and say, okay, here's where the teams are.
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: These are the teams that that are going to be there.
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: How do we get ourselves to be right there? And
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: then I think you move from there. So, uh, it's
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: it's a huge year. It's a huge year. It's a
• 19:17
  Speaker 6: huge year for for for individuals. I think it's a
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: huge here for hockey operations, and I know I know
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: where the pressure points are and they need to they
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: need to figure this thing out because you just can't.
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: You just can't keep being a you know, an idling
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: team and hoping that you have the majority of your
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: team have career years all at the same time. You
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: need you need a star, you need a game breaker.
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: Some teams have. When we mentioned Colorado, I mean the
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: they have multiple McKinnon and mccarr. I mean as big
• 19:55
  Speaker 6: as stars that you have. I mean, I'm not looking
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: at Yeah, I'm sure for Bots hockey operations and ownership,
• 20:02
  Speaker 6: they'd love to. It's not easy to find those guys.
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: But I think it does get to a point now
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: where you got to step up and you may you
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: may have to move guys you don't want. You may
• 20:16
  Speaker 6: have to move guys that are super important. And I
• 20:19
  Speaker 6: have no idea, and I'm being told I'm being honest,
• 20:21
  Speaker 6: is all. Heck, I have no idea, what is on
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: the table, what isn't on a table? Who they're zeroing
• 20:27
  Speaker 6: in on, what they're nothing zero. But I think that
• 20:30
  Speaker 6: there is come a point that until until you get
• 20:37
  Speaker 6: that dynamic player or players, it's it's going to be
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: a battle.
• 20:45
  Speaker 7: Now.
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: We did see it a couple of years ago, when
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: you know, if the team did have the run that
• 20:51
  Speaker 6: they did, as you mentioned, he getting within one goal
• 20:53
  Speaker 6: of getting the conference finals, you know, and then you know,
• 20:57
  Speaker 6: look at let's just call it what it is. You know,
• 20:59
  Speaker 6: the decision to bring in Dan Balsma. I mean it
• 21:03
  Speaker 6: it on the outside from the majority of the league,
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: people were very surprised, and I think that you could
• 21:11
  Speaker 6: see as the year went on, you knew it wasn't
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: gonna last. And it's hard when you have a setback
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: like that. This isn't just blaming one individual or a
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: staff or whatever. That's not what this is. That's just
• 21:24
  Speaker 6: the fact of the matter is how it all is
• 21:27
  Speaker 6: played out. And I think Lane did a hell of
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: a job last year, by the way, I thought that
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: he and his staff they did a heck of a
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: job and they gave the team an opportunity to be there. Now. Unfortunately,
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: and we saw it and we talked about it before
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: we went on Olympic Break. Verbatim, it was, look, the
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: Olympic break's going to help some teams, it's going to
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: have some teams that it's really not going to affect,
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: and it's going to hurt some teams. There's no doubt
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: that we could sit here and honestly say is that
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: the Olympic break hurt the krack yep and they just
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: were not able to recover. And you got to limit
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: the long stretches where you only get three or four
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: points in eight or nine games. So I know there's
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: a lot there and I'll let you take it from here.
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: But you know, just for me, I just think that
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: it's somehow, some way you got to find and you
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: got it. Like I said, you know, I heard the
• 22:23
  Speaker 6: word bold last year used when when when Bots got
• 22:27
  Speaker 6: the you know, when Bots got the job and has
• 22:30
  Speaker 6: been and is the man in charge? Well, I think
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: for this franchise moving forward, that's got to be in
• 22:36
  Speaker 6: capital letters and somehow, some way again, there are a
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: couple of guys available that I know of, but you've
• 22:45
  Speaker 6: got to be willing to be able to part and
• 22:49
  Speaker 6: and take a step and put yourself out there and
• 22:51
  Speaker 6: go look at it. Don't matter what people think. It
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: doesn't matter what if we feel like this is the
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: guy that we're going to zero in on, then you
• 22:58
  Speaker 6: got to get on those train tracks and find a
• 23:00
  Speaker 6: way to get it done. And then whatever happens happened.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: You've got a situation where everybody, you know, a lot
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: of teams have money to spend around the league, you know,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: and a couple of years ago, I thought it was interesting.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: You know, Ronnie got got criticized for the contracts for
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Monty and and Stevenson, and yet you look at those
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: two guys contributions and it's it's it's the dumbest thing
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: in the world. That really is the dumbest criticism in
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: the world. Money bout of mon tour. You can make
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: an arguments one of your top two or three most
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: important players, if not he number one.
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: Let's can I just because you brought you brought his
• 23:25
  Speaker 6: name by. I just wanted to Brandon montor Is is
• 23:28
  Speaker 6: the best player on this team. And there's nothing there's
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: nothing wrong. I mean, look, there's no slight to anybody else, Like.
• 23:36
  Speaker 5: When you talk about a game break like he's the
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: closest to a game breaker you have, Like he is
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: a a Kale mccarr, Quinn, Hughes, Lane Hudson.
• 23:52
  Speaker 6: I'm just drawing a blank.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: He's as good as Theodore, right, I mean you go
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: through the list.
• 23:59
  Speaker 6: Yeah, oh yeah, for for for sure. I mean I'm
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: drawing on a blank. And I can't believe I'm drawing
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: a blank right now because I'm so I'm hockey overload
• 24:07
  Speaker 6: right now. But the kid, the kid in the Columbus
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: right now, Yeah, yeah, I mean Zach Grinsky. I'm sorry,
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: he's a finalist for Noris Trophy. That you're like, like,
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: I think Monty is that like that is that that
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: is he he is?
• 24:22
  Speaker 7: I think he is.
• 24:23
  Speaker 6: On that road to be that type of guy. Now
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: he plays a certain way. And yeah, every player has
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: holes and blemishes and in and go sideways every once
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: in a while. But like I look at this team
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: right here and know that I still think that Monty
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: has another level to go to. Now how does that happen? Well,
• 24:42
  Speaker 6: you gotta you gotta get the guy some help. You
• 24:44
  Speaker 6: gotta you know, you got to get you got to
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: get other positions to be able to fill, to to
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: use him in that spot and to know, like I
• 24:51
  Speaker 6: think Monty like you have you have now you have
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: an unbelievable strength on the back end. You have you
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: have a guy like Monty and you have a guy
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: like Dunner like you have strengths back there. Now do
• 25:06
  Speaker 6: you want to build with that strength or do you
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: sit there and say, well, look at I got, I've
• 25:11
  Speaker 6: got a couple of guys here, or I that that
• 25:14
  Speaker 6: there's probably twelve teams in the league that would say,
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: oh yeah, I'll raise my hand if those guys would
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: ever become available. I'm just using that as an example.
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: But to your point, that was a hell of a
• 25:25
  Speaker 6: signing for for Ronnie to be able to convince to
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: convince those Moose guys, and Stevie is what he is, like, Sure,
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: would you love more points and more goals and stuff? Offensively, Yeah,
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: but you talk about a guy that's a hell of
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: a two way center and can really help you out
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: in a lot of different areas. So I didn't mean
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: to interrupt you there. You know, I'm glad you mentioned
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: both their names because Monty said because Monty's like he is,
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: like I look at him as that guy and I
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: have no problem with saying that, like, I have no
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: problem with saying like he is like he is, he
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: is the closest thing. That's probably be a better way
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: to say it, like he is their closest player to
• 26:05
  Speaker 6: a game breaker or a difference maker. Now again, stylistically,
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: you know, does he have the green light all the time?
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: Does he have the ability to go ahead? And I'm
• 26:15
  Speaker 6: not saying do what he wants? But you know, you
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: know what I'm talking about he and and I think
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: it's just because his skill level and is in his
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: toughness and he's won before and he's got jam Uh.
• 26:27
  Speaker 6: That to me is that that's an area too that
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: I think that needs some addressing, and addressing quickly, you know,
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: is to have those type of guys that understand where
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: they're you know, where their bread is buttered and and
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: vice versa. And and Monte certainly leads the pack when
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: it comes to that because the guy's a Stanley Cup winner.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: Zo.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: One of the things I look at is is, you know,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: the off season, like you said, they've got to be bold,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: they have to be bold. And two things like also
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: two things at you and you can wrap them into one.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: One would be I think re signing Bobby McMahon to
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: be a priority, I think what you gave up for
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: him shows that you thought you could get him here.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: He's still here. I know you're on a big social
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: media guy. I know you're on that worldwide web every
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: now and then. But he's still in Seattle. He is
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: still he's doing stuff with his girlfriend here. Like you see,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: he postsuff all the time. Hey I'm out on Puget Sound.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: I'm hiking. He went on a golf trip with a
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: bunch of the boys, And like, I think those are
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: all good signs. But I think whatever it takes to
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: resign him as priority one, and you said it as well,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: that to me would be first. And then second of all,
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: you're gonna have to move some either draft picks or
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: prospects or what have you to make that second move.
• 27:37
  Speaker 6: Well, as I said earlier, I named that tune in
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: four in four notes, and that's one. Like the draft
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: picks are great, and you know whatever young players you
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: think you have in your organization are great, and you
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: know how far away or it's understanding, and I could
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: just I can. I lived it as a coach when
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: I coached in Pittsburgh. To Penguins twenty plus years ago.
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: Is in The one thing that I'd learned is that
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: you as an organization, you as a staff, you as
• 28:04
  Speaker 6: a front office you have to figure out who in
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: what your guys are before the rest of the National
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: Hockey League does. Everybody makes mistakes, everybody makes really good moves.
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: Mistakes are going to happen. The biggest thing is you
• 28:21
  Speaker 6: got to be able to have the courage to sit
• 28:22
  Speaker 6: there and say, hey, you know what, we should have
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: probably drafted this guy in the fifth round, not the
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: second round. Or we should have drafted this guy in
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: the third round if he was available and not in
• 28:31
  Speaker 6: the first round. That's okay, that's okay. Ownership should not
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: look at their staff and sit there go, ah, you
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: guys screwed up here, you screwed up. You know this
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: guy like that. It's just not it's it's not the
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: it's not the way you should do business. It's not.
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: I lived it. I under I understand again from a
• 28:47
  Speaker 6: totally different not that I shouldn't say that, not a
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: totally different situation, because I was there coaching. We were
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: in a major rebuild. We blew it up, and then
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: we tried to build through the draft and we you know,
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: we we thanking. We were the picture ofking in the
• 29:00
  Speaker 6: Webster's Dictionary. If if some of your listeners don't know
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: what the Webster's Dictionary is, look it up. You'll understand
• 29:06
  Speaker 6: what the hell I'm talking about.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: God sales, guys.
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: Yeah it was.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: It was a plinder.
• 29:15
  Speaker 6: It was a oh yeah, I love those binders, love them.
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: I just you, whatever the road is, you pick your
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: lane and you go from there. But I learned that
• 29:26
  Speaker 6: is if a guy doesn't work out, okay, that's okay.
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: People make mistakes. Like if you look at draft picks
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: throughout the history of the National Hockey League, the first
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: you know, the first two rounds, some pan out and
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: some don't. It's it's it's it's okay. You're taking a
• 29:43
  Speaker 6: stab on a young seventeen or eighteen year old kid
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: that you're you're projecting, in all due respect to the
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: analytical department, Like it's hard to judge analytics when you
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: have seventeen to eighteen year old kids playing against other seventeen, eighteen,
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: nineteen twenty year olds. You could project all you want,
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: but until they get to the National Hockey League and
• 30:04
  Speaker 6: playing against the best players in the world and men.
• 30:07
  Speaker 6: You can throw your analytics out into the sound. It's
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: it's useless. It doesn't. It's just I'm I'm learning as
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: I get old. I like to think I'm learning. But
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: if you make a mistake, it's okay. The eye tests,
• 30:24
  Speaker 6: I think will give you the best indication of young players.
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: And if you make a mistake, whether it's analytically or visually,
• 30:32
  Speaker 6: instead of continuing to throw money at that player, because
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: I think you could honestly take any hockey person and
• 30:39
  Speaker 6: a guy in a in a in a staff member
• 30:43
  Speaker 6: man or woman could look at a player after a
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: couple of years under your hat if they wanted to
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: give you an honest assessment. You could sit there and
• 30:53
  Speaker 6: evaluate that player and go, you know what, this is
• 30:56
  Speaker 6: what he is okay? You may be right, and the
• 31:00
  Speaker 6: majority of the times I think you are right. But
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: instead of chasing bad money and in trying to say, well, no,
• 31:07
  Speaker 6: he's okay, he's okay, or or which it happens, well, geez,
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: you know we you know, we can't suggest trading them
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: because I thought we should take them, and some of
• 31:17
  Speaker 6: our scouts did this, or some of our scouts said
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: that it's it's okay to raise your hand and go
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: look it. I was wrong. Ee, I was wrong. And
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: that's where I think organizations that need to take the
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: next step need to have that support of ownership to
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: sit there and across from them and look them eye
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: to eye, and sit there and go ahead and give
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: them an I'm saying this is across the board. I'm
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: not just talking specifically about Seattle. I'm just looking about
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: the hockey history. And I've been a part of the
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: National Hockey League since nineteen eighty four. So yes, I'm
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: an old guy and I've been around and I'd like
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: to think I've seen it all. But that to me
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: is where if you can make those decisions early enough,
• 32:02
  Speaker 6: you're gonna be better off down the road when it
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: comes to you know, those young players of making decisions
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: on them. Look, you're gonna be wrong sometimes you are.
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: You're gonna trade a guy and the guy's gonna blossom
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: and and you know he's gonna have himself. He's he's
• 32:16
  Speaker 6: gonna he's gonna do good, he's gonna do well. Now,
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: I'm not talking about free agents. I'm not talking about
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: uh uh, you know, Morgan geeky. I'm not talking I'm
• 32:24
  Speaker 6: not talking about guys like that. I'm talking about I'm
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: talking about young players in your organization. Is that you
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: could figure out who and what they are before everybody
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: else does. You're gonna be You're gonna be much better
• 32:35
  Speaker 6: off down the road. And that down the road maybe
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: five years, it may be seven years, but it's okay
• 32:40
  Speaker 6: to sit there and raise your hand and go, you
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: know what, we don't think that this guy is gonna
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: be a part of what we're doing, and and and
• 32:47
  Speaker 6: and let's move them. It doesn't matter what the fans say.
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: It doesn't matter what the media says. It doesn't matter
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: what the old broadcasters say, it doesn't matter. You got
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: if you think. You got to have that conviction, and
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: I and I and I correlate it with a lot
• 32:59
  Speaker 6: of out about and I'm not trying to be funny
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: by any sense. And we talked about horses a little
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: bit earlier. It's like when you are handicapping or picking horses,
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: you got to have that conviction and you got to
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: be willing to stand there, as I said earlier, and
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: put your plumbs on the table and sit there and
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: go this is why I like this. This is why
• 33:18
  Speaker 6: I don't like this, And you got to be willing
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: to stand in the kitchen and take the heat if
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: you're wrong. And if you're right, everybody's going to say, oh,
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: what a move, what a move, And that's all great,
• 33:27
  Speaker 6: and you are going to be judged on how things
• 33:28
  Speaker 6: play out. But for me, the assets that they have
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: E I'd sit there and say, in a situation they're
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: in right now, that's what they are.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: You got to use them to the best of your
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: ability real fast. I'm going to get you all that
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: here By'm my producer. But that will be the first
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: time and you've had that as well.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Shaver if you're listening, a very kind yeller, Ryan.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Shaver, if you're listening, you know this got mylone EXE.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: We let me just circle back real quick. You have
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: to resign McMahon. Don't you have whatever it takes?
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: Well, I mean, does he not hold does he not
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: hold the keys to whether or not signs are not?
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: Yep, Yeah, I guess that's true.
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean right, he's he's an Is he
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: not an unrestricted free agent?
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: Hm?
• 34:11
  Speaker 6: So look at yeah, you can it's his I mean,
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: I I believe one that they want to back. I mean,
• 34:19
  Speaker 6: why wouldn't you? And but again it's it's the player.
• 34:24
  Speaker 6: So who whoever in the players too? Are are the
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: greatest salesman, right, the players? And he had a taste
• 34:33
  Speaker 6: of it. This isn't where you're trying to bring in
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: a guy that that hasn't been in Seattle. He got
• 34:39
  Speaker 6: a great taste of it. And man, I mean like
• 34:41
  Speaker 6: for him, you look at it. Lane certainly likes him.
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: He plays a boat load. He's playing way more than
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: he did in Toronto. Now what you know, who are
• 34:52
  Speaker 6: going to be the you know, who's gonna tip the
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: Toledo in the way of the of the kraken to
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: make sure that he stays here. Well, that's that's what
• 35:01
  Speaker 6: ends up happening.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think it's it is a player. It's
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: just guys like money. It's you know, guys that took
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: them on the golf trip and went up to the
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Bandon Dunes or or Gambles Sands or whatever like that,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: and all good size when you.
• 35:11
  Speaker 6: Do get a guy. But when you do trade for
• 35:13
  Speaker 6: a guy like that, though, we let's let's say what
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: it is like you are rolling the dice, Yes you are.
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: I know we did I have talked a lot about
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: gambling here. I don't want people to get the wrong well,
• 35:21
  Speaker 6: you know what, it doesn't matter. People are going to
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: get there. Whether this entire show is a gamble dude casino,
• 35:27
  Speaker 6: I should be I should be a regular then if
• 35:29
  Speaker 6: that is the case. But when you do trade for
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: a guy like that, you are rolling the dice. You are.
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: I mean, there's no there's no guarantee. And I'm just again,
• 35:38
  Speaker 6: I'm talking as a hockey guy right now. No, you know,
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: no affiliation, and I'm doing sitting in my room in
• 35:43
  Speaker 6: Carolina doing air you know, I'm doing the quotations, you know,
• 35:46
  Speaker 6: the air ones here or whatever you call those stupid things.
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: I talk to people around the league. I like to
• 35:53
  Speaker 6: think that, you know, I kind of have a pulse
• 35:54
  Speaker 6: of what's going on. Yeah, the crack and want them.
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: But I'm just going to tell you there's there's four
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: or five other teams that are are are are are
• 36:03
  Speaker 6: all lathered up right now thinking that they got a
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: hell of a shot. So let's hope for the Crackings
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: sake is that they can can convince him and his
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: uh in his management team and his his agency to
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: you know, to stay in Seattle, and you know, are
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: you gonna have to overpay? But I mean you might,
• 36:20
  Speaker 6: you might have to, but I think they're I think
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: the cracking are past that point. That's just my opinion.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Have a great call tonight. We'll check in before the finals.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: How about that.
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: I can't wait.
• 36:29
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• 36:30
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• 36:31
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• 36:33
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• 38:00
  Speaker 1: Y'all and Carolina tonight. John Forslan's on the call, the
• 38:03
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• 38:05
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• 38:07
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• 38:11
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• 38:16
  Speaker 1: the Kansas City Royals. Well, the big news yesterday coming
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: out of Seattle and out of the Mariners' homestand coming
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: to an end. Yes, they did get a win, good deal.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: The bigger news though, is that JP Crawford, his agent,
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: went to GM Justin Hollander and said, hey, I'm open
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: to playing third base. Crawford went directly to the manager,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Dan Wilson and said the same. And listen, we've gone
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: through this a lot this year. We went through it
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: in the off season. When I say this, the defense
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: of how do we want to say it, I don't
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: want to say struggles, just the limitations defensively for JP Crawford,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: there's just it's and it was a discussion in the
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: playoffs last year exactly, and it's he is not the
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: gold glover he once was. Father Time is undefeated. He
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: takes its toll on it. Just that's the way it is.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Father Time wins, wins every week. Nobody likes him, but
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: it happens. It's inevitable, and it is interesting because every
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: time we bring this up, I'll look on the text
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: line or I'll see if we post something on social media,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: people will look at this fielding person at just pretty good. Yeah,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: when he can get to the ball, he's good. He's fine.
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: For the most part. It's getting the ball that's hard.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: If you want to depends on which metric you want
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: to look at. That's underlying. Defensive run saved he's minus seven,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: that's one of the worst in the league. Fielding run
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: value minus five, one of the worst in the league.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: At shortstop, he doesn't get the balls and the range
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: you've got to have to play that position. Just think
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: about it. For anybody wo played the little league, like,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: just do that for a second. Or if you played
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: maybe you played travel ball as a kid, and you
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: played baseball at any level, who played shortstop. Usually it
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: was one of your top two or three athletes one
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: would play shortstop, would win play center field. That's it
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: doesn't change when you get to the major leagues. You
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: still have to have athleticism, right, You still have to
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: be able to have range. You still need to you're
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: covering a lot of ground, a lot of ground. JP
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Crawford's bat has to be in this lineup for a
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: lineup that's been struggling. That basically in you know, a
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: span of two games and three days, had just one hit.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: JP Crawford is an on base machine right now. You
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: need his bat, you need him in the lineup, but
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: he hurts you defensively. I think it was just an
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: awesome thing yesterday. It says a lot about JP Crawford.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: And listen, there's I say it selfless. There's some selfishness
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: to it. He doesn't want to leave. He wants to
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: be here, but.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: In a good way because he is not unwilling to
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: give up his spot on the team for a guy
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: that deserves it.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: He's willing to sacrifice to stay.
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: He has, Yeah, he has to make a sacrifice because
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: there's an ego check here, right like there's a there's
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: a significant check of the ego at the door. I
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: want to stick around. How can I do that? Well,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: it's very simple for me to stick around. I've got
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: to switch positions and and he's willing to go to
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: third And that's the other part of the equation that's
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: interesting is third base has been a black hole for
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: this team. You know, Polanco couldn't play it. Remember last
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: year they wanted Plonco to play it. Now, was he healthy, whatever,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: it doesn't even matter. They brought in a guy that
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: could not play. Yeah, he couldn't play third, and then
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: Brendan Donovan has been fine offensively when he's been in
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: the problem is his health is a massive concern. The
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: sports herney of surgery. The fact he's been he's had
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: two right, two stints on the ail, including one right now. Yes, okay,
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: this is his second one. So but when he has
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: been in there, bat good, defense bad. Yeah, my eye
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: test and my eye tests tell do something. This is
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: very simplistic. Donovan doesn't field balls well when they're hit
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: to him. Take the range doesn't even matter third base,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: you don't the bunch. But he just doesn't hit. He
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: just the balls find him and bad things happen JP
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: when he when a ball gets hit to him, he's fine. Well,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: one guy should be playing third. Now we'll hear about
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: arm strength and all those things. Anders and I were
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: talking about this off the before the show.
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: Today.
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: You guys talk behind my bad Yeah, we did.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: We did. We The arm strength thing is an interesting
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: one because if you're throwing from the hole at shortstop
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: like you go to your right back end the ball,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: turn around, pivot, have to throw. It's a long throw, right, Yeah,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: third base, you're playing game with the bag or what
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: have you probably have some in sometimes probably some easier throw.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: So that's probably that's probably just kind of a wash.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: But I do think it tells you a couple of things. One,
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: the guy's a good teammate, good in the clubhouse, good leader,
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: because that's what guys like that do. Number Two, and
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: this is the part I kind of was thinking about
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: all day yesterday, because he had to with the one
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: home run. That's it cold Emerson. But and I say
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: one home run, that's the one hit.
• 43:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: JP probably also sees the running on the wall. This
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: guy's not This kid's not going anywhere. It makes no
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: sense because your alternative is is Leo Revos, right, And
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: that's just not going to happen.
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: And that's the big reason got called up. They could
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: have easily just been like, all right, Revos, you're going
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: to play some third base.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: We have Patrick Wisdom here who's healthy and Wisdom by
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: the way, interesting day yesterday. On a side note, two
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: guys that had big hits for the Seattle yesterday wisdom
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: and Parida the backup, the third string catcher. That will
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: get to him in a second. But the the JP thing,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: just applaud him. You know what we've we've all spent
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: time trashing his defense all year. Uh while at the
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: same time giving him the you know, the love he
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: deserves for his offense. Uh, celebrate JP Crawford for this move.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: That's a that's a I think that just also tells
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: you a lot about this team who and what they
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: can be. Certainly kicks in as well. We'll see. You know,
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: Eddie was talking about it with the krack, and I
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: think there's a there's a there's a parallel here. Sometimes
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: organizations have to make tough decisions, and decisions that may
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: not be popular in a locker room, may not be
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: popular in a fan base, may not just maybe hard
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: decisions to make.
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: Or it may like force you to look like you
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: did something wrong for once correct.
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: Parade should be the backup catcher. Yeah, like he just
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: should be. And there's a lot that he brings. It
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: feels like behind the plate, he appears to me behind
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: the plate better than Garver, better arm, better abillity of
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: whole guy hold runners. Yeah, has some Juice has some enthusiasm,
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: looks like he handles the staff well. And Garver's had
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: two years or a year and a half to He
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: can't hit man.
• 45:16
  Speaker 6: He just can't.
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: It's just that that's a black hole in your lineup
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: when he's in there. So we'll see if they make
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: that tough decision when Cal comes back. Sure, I'm gonna
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: guess they don't. My guess is Parada goes back to Tacoma.
• 45:29
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: I mean it'd be a lot easier this year than
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: last year because Garver's on a minimum better in minimum contract.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: It's not like a paint of twelve million dollars like
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: you were last year, right, So I think we have
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: to see more. I agree with you. So far, Parade
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: has looked like the guy that can bring you more
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: value on both sides of the ball.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Well and Andrews. The hard thing is here, like col
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: struggles this season. Yeah, you know behind the plate, you
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: don't have it. You really don't feel like you have
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: an alternative. And I think part of it is the
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: defensive element of it, right right, like like like that's
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: part Like we saw the other night, Why was that
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: the whole piggyback game? We can look to a zillion things,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: you know that happened in that game. One hit, what
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: they did at the top of the ninth inning, all
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: these effy things that took place that led to a
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: two to one loss. Yeah, one of those is Garver's
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: inability to keep guys on.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you guys really think about it. Chuck mentioned
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: this yesterday in the Morning Show. The one of the
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: biggest plays in the game was the double steel. That
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: was a huge play because the then the infield has
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: to come in and that's why Josh Naylor missed the
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: rinky dink ball that Andre's Munios gave up but should
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: have been an easy out exactly, but it wasn't because
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: they get a double steal without even a throw.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: From Mitch Garver.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: So that can be a huge difference in uh, you know,
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: in this pitching staff, it's not really an art that's
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: used anymore. They don't tend to hold runners on very well,
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: so you need to have a catcher that can throw
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: guys out.
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. That was the other part of which I hated
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: in a sense about that that whole thing was like
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: Muno's I'm I'm gonna guess that the starter in Castillo
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: probably has a better ability to hold a runner on.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: He deals with a lot more often. Yes, right, it
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: just feels like it feels like relievers aren't. I could
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: be wrong. I fish you're an idiot. Well maybe I am.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: Well, no, I think you're right and not so much
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: that even more so because Munos has been caught with
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: the bach a couple of times. Because of that fact
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: that he has a runner on, He's like, I almost
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: doesn't know what to do with it, Like they don't.
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: It's not an art that they teach very much anymore.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: But you're right, starters definitely have more of an experience
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: with it.
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: Anyway. That's a that's your manner update. They got the
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: day off today, They've got it luckily. They had the
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: nice series win over Chicago. Yeah, after all that, you
• 47:36
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• 47:41
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• 47:43
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• 47:48
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• 47:52
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• 49:28
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• 49:33
  Speaker 1: We got a lot to discuss up here in Seattle.
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: I know you guys talked about on rates and barrels.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Let's let's start first with what everyone here is excited
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: about before I get into piggyback pitching.
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: And that would be the debut and the arrival of
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: one Colt Emerson to Seattle. He was having an okay
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: season down in Triple A statistically, but they called him up.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: They punked him in at third base a couple of times,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: played shortstop a little bit as well. I think the
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: last two games, and it looks like he might be
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: here to stay because JP Crawford says he's willing to
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: move to third. But thoughts on a twenty year old
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: kid getting called up to a team that should be
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: a contending team in the American League.
• 50:12
  Speaker 10: I mean, there's a lot to put on his shoulders.
• 50:14
  Speaker 10: But you know, the good thing is that they aren't
• 50:16
  Speaker 10: calling him off, you know, like a Connor Griffin in
• 50:20
  Speaker 10: Pittsburgh where they're saying, hey, save you know, it's a
• 50:27
  Speaker 10: decent place to me where the division is wide open.
• 50:32
  Speaker 10: You know, the team is doing fine. It's not like
• 50:35
  Speaker 10: it needs him to produce everything right away. And you know,
• 50:40
  Speaker 10: part of the reason why he's going to stay up is,
• 50:43
  Speaker 10: you know, the increasingly disconcerting defense by J V Crawford
• 50:48
  Speaker 10: at shortstop. And so I think that, like I'm glad
• 50:52
  Speaker 10: to hear JP make those comments, and I think that
• 50:56
  Speaker 10: Emerson will slide over the short sooner other than later.
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, JP telling Dan Wilson yesterday, I'm willing to move
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: to third. I mean, good leadership, selfless also maybe self
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: preservation and all those things you mentioned. It though, like
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: JP is the declining defense, it's yeah, fielding percentage is fine,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: But the other numbers run saved, all those the numbers
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: that really kind of count. How it does feel right
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: like JP just is not an everyday shortstop in Major
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: League Baseball anymore.
• 51:28
  Speaker 10: No, but to give him his flowers as well, Like,
• 51:31
  Speaker 10: you know, I think he's we looked at it over
• 51:34
  Speaker 10: the last three years. He's a top sixty bat and
• 51:39
  Speaker 10: it's the kind of thing where you don't see it,
• 51:42
  Speaker 10: you know, with the traditional numbers home runs RBIs. It's
• 51:47
  Speaker 10: a little bit OVP forward like he gets on Baseball lot.
• 51:50
  Speaker 10: But hey, that's a skill, you know, that's a real thing.
• 51:53
  Speaker 10: So you know, wherever if he takes the attitude of
• 51:57
  Speaker 10: wherever you can fit my bat, I'm willing to I'm
• 52:00
  Speaker 10: willing to help lengthen the lineup, and then I'm into
• 52:03
  Speaker 10: it because yeah, it's really hard to stay at short
• 52:07
  Speaker 10: past thirty. You know, Brandon Crawford is the last to
• 52:11
  Speaker 10: do it, and we've seen people like Boba Schett right
• 52:14
  Speaker 10: as they hit free agency have to make or move
• 52:17
  Speaker 10: off of the position, you know, shortstop. With the young
• 52:21
  Speaker 10: man's game, usually around thirty you start exploring your positions anyway.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's and you mentioned the on base percentage. I
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: think one of things this year with abs we've seen
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure. Andrews correct me if I'm wrong, mister
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: Baseball postcast, it feels as if just watching with the
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: ABS and the ability to challenge JP, Crawford has as
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: good eye as anybody on this team, really fine, Like
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: and you mentioned it, it's a skill, is it not?
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: You know we've given him flowers all year about is
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: you know, you can't take the bat out of the
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: lineup right, so that's where you have to find the
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: balancing act.
• 52:51
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I.
• 52:53
  Speaker 10: Think it just doesn't It doesn't show because he's never
• 52:55
  Speaker 10: going to be on a home run later board. But
• 52:58
  Speaker 10: you know it also, you know, partially it came about
• 53:01
  Speaker 10: from some of his bat speed training that he did,
• 53:04
  Speaker 10: because if you are just you know, a good eye
• 53:07
  Speaker 10: without any ability to kind of punish mistakes, then pictures
• 53:12
  Speaker 10: will kind of go into the zone with community and
• 53:16
  Speaker 10: it'll be hard for you even take walks. So that's
• 53:19
  Speaker 10: you know, he did do some work on being able
• 53:21
  Speaker 10: to hit the ball hard enough to make the pictures
• 53:24
  Speaker 10: nervous that they come and.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: Done too much, you know, you know, Sarah Joinis, you know,
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: is there any risk bringing a kid up like Emerson
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: and having him take a step back if he has
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: some struggles, especially offensively at this level. And I mean
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: obviously he can send them back down. We get that
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: and all those things. But you know, as you watched
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: this over the years, are their example. I mean, we
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: just saw Jerry Kilnick in town with with the White Sox,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: and you know, his career trajectory is not nearly what
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: we thought it would be a few years ago. Are
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: there any risks involved with bringing Emerson up long term?
• 53:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 53:56
  Speaker 10: I mean we saw another name, you know in town
• 53:59
  Speaker 10: recently with Cam Smith. You know, there's a little concern
• 54:04
  Speaker 10: that they brought him up too early. And the thing
• 54:06
  Speaker 10: with cam Smith though, is that he had like three
• 54:09
  Speaker 10: hundred plate appearances in the minors. I know, Cole Everson
• 54:13
  Speaker 10: went through the minus pretty quickly, but he can go
• 54:15
  Speaker 10: that quickly. He kind of hit every level and he
• 54:19
  Speaker 10: did well at every level. You're right that it wasn't
• 54:21
  Speaker 10: the most amazing season this year. I think that he
• 54:25
  Speaker 10: will struggle a little with contact. That's something you've seen.
• 54:29
  Speaker 10: You've seen what in the past that like when he
• 54:31
  Speaker 10: first approaches the level sometimes he'll strike out more and
• 54:34
  Speaker 10: then he kind of figures it out. So I think
• 54:37
  Speaker 10: that's what they're hoping for, is kind of a low
• 54:39
  Speaker 10: stress entry into the big league and then you know,
• 54:43
  Speaker 10: helping him figure out how to make more contact. The
• 54:47
  Speaker 10: reason he got that deal was because he hits the
• 54:49
  Speaker 10: ball hard and is super athletic and can play defense.
• 54:53
  Speaker 10: But the missing piece, as you've seen camp Smith. Camp
• 54:56
  Speaker 10: Smith runs real fast, hits the ball real hard, rows
• 55:00
  Speaker 10: the ball real well, and the approach just hasn't clicked
• 55:04
  Speaker 10: for him. At the play he stripped out too much
• 55:05
  Speaker 10: and he hasn't been able to get through his power.
• 55:08
  Speaker 10: So I mean, camp Smith is the risk, but also
• 55:14
  Speaker 10: I think the idea, you know, cam Smith is also
• 55:16
  Speaker 10: putting more on his shoulders I think in Newton than
• 55:19
  Speaker 10: Emerson has to in Seattle.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, camp Smith's twenty three, but great bat speed. Like
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: everything you see with him, it looks like he should
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: be great. Then you look at his slash line and
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: it's one ninety seven, two ninety three, three twelve four
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: home runs through fifty games this season. And yeah, I
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: guess that's why I asked that question. But I mean,
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: we're excited. We love the fact he's going to be
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: probably the short stop moving ahead defensively looks fine there
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: and everything else, and we'll see the other big topic.
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: You know here in Seattle. It's a term that some
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: people are hating, others are trying to embrace, and we're
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: all trying to figure out how long they're going to
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: do this, the old piggyback role that we saw the
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: other day, Bryce Miller into Luis cas Steele. How much
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: of a thing is this around baseball right now? This
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: piggyback thing is opposed to go into a true six
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: man rotation or putting a guy in the bullpen full time.
• 56:08
  Speaker 10: I mean, in the minor league, it's crazy common.
• 56:12
  Speaker 9: It's kind of the norm in the minor league because
• 56:16
  Speaker 9: you're trying to develop so many pitchers of starting pitchers
• 56:19
  Speaker 9: that you don't have enough opportunity to give starting pitchers
• 56:22
  Speaker 9: games and you're not expecting them to go one hundred pitches.
• 56:26
  Speaker 9: So in the minor league, all these guys who are
• 56:28
  Speaker 9: coming up now, they're used to you know, piggybacking, handem starting,
• 56:32
  Speaker 9: whatever you want to call it, and that's kind of
• 56:35
  Speaker 9: the norm down there now. Of course, Louis Castillo hasn't
• 56:38
  Speaker 9: been in the minor league for a long time, so
• 56:41
  Speaker 9: it's a little bit out of the norm to ask him.
• 56:44
  Speaker 6: To do that.
• 56:45
  Speaker 9: And I expected it to be more of a three
• 56:48
  Speaker 9: inning each sort of deal rather than kind of a
• 56:53
  Speaker 9: little bit more. It kind of looks like Louis Castillo
• 56:56
  Speaker 9: went to the bullpenen at all. Maybe they're calling it
• 56:59
  Speaker 9: something else to kind of make him feel better and
• 57:03
  Speaker 9: to keep him involved. But you know, Bryce went five
• 57:06
  Speaker 9: and Luke CaTiO went two. That's not necessarily what I
• 57:10
  Speaker 9: think of as a tandem start.
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: No, it was weird because and Wilson talked about a
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: little part of the problem was is through through five innings,
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: Miller had a no hitter and had only thrown what
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: was it, fifty pitches, right, like great, yeah, you know
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: Bryce Miller's outstanding outing kind of screwed things up because
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: that was, Yeah, the plan was to have Castile come
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: in and maybe it was three four innings and then
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: three four innings, what have you. Then they just felt
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: like they were hell bent on making sure Castillo got
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: his pitches in and that led to kind of a
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: debacle in the ninth inning and and all that and
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know what, Well, go ahead, go.
• 57:47
  Speaker 9: Ahead, Well, we talked about this, Like, you know, one
• 57:51
  Speaker 9: of the things that is difficult, like going to a
• 57:52
  Speaker 9: sixth man rotation, is.
• 57:54
  Speaker 7: That you're down a reliever in the bullpen.
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 57:56
  Speaker 9: And so if you go to a sixth man rotation
• 58:00
  Speaker 9: and your five guys Bryce s Miller, who just comes up,
• 58:02
  Speaker 9: goes four innings, and then your sixth guy, Luis Castillo,
• 58:07
  Speaker 9: runs into trouble in the fourth inning, you just gassed
• 58:10
  Speaker 9: your bullpen two days in a row. But I guess
• 58:12
  Speaker 9: the thinking with tandem is, hey, actually we might get
• 58:15
  Speaker 9: out of this sixth start not using our bullpen much
• 58:18
  Speaker 9: at all, which ended up happening.
• 58:20
  Speaker 5: I mean, they they.
• 58:21
  Speaker 9: Used Perrer for the save, I think right, and Muniosh
• 58:25
  Speaker 9: got a blow, and I think they only used two
• 58:27
  Speaker 9: relievers and two starters, which is below average in terms
• 58:30
  Speaker 9: of numbers of fishers used in a game.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: So they used to get out Tommy.
• 58:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they used for was kind of like a bridge
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: guy went five and two thirds mirror COMMI came up
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: with a guy in second, Freyer came to get him out.
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: Then Castilla went two innings, tried to go the third inning,
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: and it kind of unraveled from there. They probably tried
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: to bring on Munios and he couldn't get it done.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was so it just kind of turned into
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: this like our morning shot a great point in one
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: of the people in morning shot, Hey, eighty five percent
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: of it worked great, you know, like it was just
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: that fifteen percent which was the final you know, two
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: three outs of the ninth inning they turned into debacle.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: I you know, I think what you said is interesting,
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: Like you're managing egos too, it's at some point too right,
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: and managing guy like like, hey, Luis, you haven't been good.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: Hancock's been fantastic, he's not coming out of the rotation.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: Miller's back and he's good. You know, Gilbert and Kirby
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: have had a couple of blips, but you know, the
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: bigger picture tells us they're fine this year. And Brian
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: who's been outstanding all except for two starts. So you're
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: kind of the odd guy out right. That's that's the
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: hard part there. And a guy like Luis Castillo who
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: made his first ever regular season release appearance and however
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: many years he's been in the league. I guess that's
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: part of it too, right. You're managing you're trying to
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: the manager's trying to manage that part of the game.
• 59:43
  Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean in past I've heard starting pictures, you know,
• 59:47
  Speaker 9: veteran starting pictures at the end of their career have
• 59:49
  Speaker 9: told me that the team has come to them and said,
• 59:51
  Speaker 9: you know, we're in a bind right now rosterwise, we
• 59:54
  Speaker 9: need you to go tow on the il, you know, yep.
• 59:58
  Speaker 9: And you know, there, as cynical as that might sound,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 9: the front office person told me that, you know, the
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 9: first thing that he learned when he got behind the
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 9: curtain was, oh my god, pictures are hurting all the time.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 9: Like they you basically could eye out any picture at
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 9: any time. There's something that hurts all the time. And
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 9: as I get older, I think I understand that even more.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 9: But so, you know, could they find a hamstring, could
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 9: they find a back, you know whatever, Could they find something,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 9: you know, where they can send them on rehab and
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 9: just push the decision off. But you know, then you're
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 9: just waiting for somebody in your rotation to get injured
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 9: so at least Castillo can come back. And so you know,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 9: they are looking for something sustainable, and maybe the piggybacking
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 9: is the way to go, because you know, you also
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 9: want to keep Muno's fresh course September in October, right,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 9: And so if Castillo can find it in three inning stents,
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 9: he can still be really valuable to this bullpen, whether
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 9: it be behind Hancocks or behind Miller. The problem is,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 9: because of who he is. You also you kind of
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 9: have to schedule him. You can't just be like, oh,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 9: we're gonna go to you for three innings sometime the
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 9: next three days. I don't think that that is going
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 9: to go over that well with a guy who has
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 9: been the.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 7: Start of the song.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 9: They get into their routines and all that stuff. So
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 9: I guess the piggyback is the way of the medium future.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 9: Maybe there'll be a phantom il Stint in there. They've
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 9: just got to figure it out. Death is not bad.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 9: I still think Luis kes dou can find it. I
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 9: know that it's harder to believe that the more you
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 9: watch him with your eyes, but you know, if he
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 9: you know, another thing is to like maybe go to
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 9: him and be like, there's been plenty of guys who
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 9: found a second career in the bullpen, and like, you know,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 9: you could be so nasty, you could be you could
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 9: be this nasty.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 7: Set up guy for us.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 9: So you know, I don't know what kind of conversations
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 9: are happening, but as you point out, like, yeah, it's
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 9: all those comezations are fraught with concern. You know, you
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 9: don't you don't come up to Justin Berlander and say, hey,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 9: what about the bullpen?
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: No, well, and the thing in the castiles. In his
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: defense too, you've told us, you know, like his his velocity,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: you know, his numbers. They still look fine. In fact,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: we saw it when he came in the other night.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: He was hitting upper nineties, like you look, struck out
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: the side his first inning, which well, let's just talk
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: about that high leverage reliever, all right. I mean did
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: exactly what you would want a guy like that to do.
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: He did look like he could fill that role. And
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: I we'll see where they go with it. And yeah,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: I mean they've been lucky so far because you know,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: mostly the five guys besides Miller who's now back, have
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: been healthy and now they're at six guys. I do
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: want to ask him more. Thanks, you know, Syrus joining us.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: I brought this up the other day when I was
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: talking to one of the other guys, and I love
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: the Mason Miller story. I noticed the other night. I
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: saw this stuff on social media. Oh wow, Dodgers had
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: a ninth inning app and one of the best at
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: bats we've ever seen, and you know, they came back.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: He takes the loss, and I'm like, God, I gotta
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: go back and look what happened. And and then I
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: like because he feels like Superman to me. He got
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: he had a walk, an error, a sacrifice fly, that's what,
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: and he lost the game. Didn't give up a hit, right,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: The best.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 9: That bat ever gets Sason Miller was a sacrifice fly.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 9: I was I was yelling at the screen for him,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 9: at the screen for him. With my son, we were yelling,
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 9: throw the change up because he was stuck in this
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 9: he was stuck in this fastball slider thing with Taskar.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 9: I was just like, you just need to do something
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 9: crazy here that he won't expect so he can get
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 9: a whifp because Tasker was fighting off all the fastballs
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 9: and and doing just enough against the sliders. So yeah,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 9: that was It wasn't good at bat, but makes Miller
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 9: is so good that yeah, it's an opposite field.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 7: Uh, sacrifice fly a great out?
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: Is that mat we've seen ever? Dodgers are saying afterwards,
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, well he must that's I said. I
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: had to go back what happened to this thing? Because
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: now we only saw him one time in Seattle last
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: they were here last weekend. They swept them. That was
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: what was disappointing for Seattle. It's like, okay, you guys
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: swept by the Padres and you only saw Miller once.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: They didn't have to use him in the last two games,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: and away you go. We have I'm hesitant to say this,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: but I'm gonna say it. We are looking next week,
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: starting on a Memorial Day at a wait for it,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: you know, a big series with the Sacramento Athletics. Who
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: would think, how the hell are they doing it? They're
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: only a game above five hundred. But is it just strictly, hey,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: we're gonna outslug everybody. We're slow pitch softball team because
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: they can't pitch. What are they doing there?
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 9: I mean, they found some guys in the in the staff,
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 9: and you know, inevitably that's the way of the Athletics is.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 9: You know, give a bunch of opportunity in your bad
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 9: seasons to a bunch of different people and.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 7: Just find guys.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 9: Find they trade for triple A guys that project well
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 9: that nobody else likes. Jake Ginn is perfectly like that.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 9: They traded for him from the Mets, and the Mets
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 9: thot he's a thinker, slider guy. He won't be able
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 9: to be a starter, to just be a reliever, and
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 9: he's up to command. And he took a no hitter
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 9: into the to the very I mean, it was sad
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 9: he lost the no hitter on the walkoff homer, but
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 9: he's been a revelation for them. Jack Perkins was supposed
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 9: to be a starter for them. He's now their closer
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 9: and sept reno. As bad as everyone thought that signing was.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 10: He's been all right.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 9: He's been like a two three, like a three four
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 9: maybe kind of starter. So they don't have an eight,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 9: They don't even maybe have a number two.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 7: But they have a bunch of.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 9: Guys who are three four five starters. They have a
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 9: closer now, and yeah, they have a great lineup.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: Sales starts in Kansas City. I think the last game
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: of Kansasity of Orlds one was against Seattle when they
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: swept him here or something. So we'll see what happens
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: this weekend.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 9: That's that's got to get going to keep to keep
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 9: keep pace with them.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 7: That's the that's the biggest thing. They won't They'll.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 9: They'll be facing some pictures that they should be able
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 9: to hit. So that's that'll be a bell weather for them.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 9: And they get five runs a game against these guys.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: Well, they're talking about a team and the mirrors that
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: gave up that had one hit and two of their
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: previous three games until last night. And then Patrick Wisdom
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: and Johnny Pareda we're the big heroes along with Ready
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: and Roseorna.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 6: So we'll see.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: That's why we love the game, all right, Rates and
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: Beryls tell folks about the cool podcast you guys do
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: and what it's all about.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 9: To day, we did under underrated relievers, so we dived deep.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 9: We also we also looked at the the changing abs
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 9: zone and which kind of pictures are are being hurt
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 9: by the most. It turns out that if you are
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 9: a top of the zone.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 7: Picture, uh, you've lost a lot this year.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 9: I don't know, we didn't show up on that one,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 9: but a lot of the top of the zone command
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 9: guys who don't have standout stuff there at the top
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 9: of the lost called strikes leaderboard that we looked at today,
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 9: Guys like Miles Michaels and David Peterson had lost over
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 9: half of their called strikes from it's here.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'm gonna have to go listen to
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: that because I'm curious. I'd ask you why, but I'm
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: gonna go listen instead and let everybody else do the
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: same thing. We'll talk to you next week, my friend.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 6: Thank you, all right, thank you.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: You know, Sarah's joining US Athletic Rates and Beryl's podcast
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: good stuff. That's an interesting stat and that kind of
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: screams Louis Castillo to me that opera just and it's interesting.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: He said he didn't even show up on it right right,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: like in terms of the guy say.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: More command heavy instead of stuff heavy. So I understand,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: like if Castillo's at his best, he's using his stuff
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: not as much command.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 6: But yeah, I.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: Wonder if you know, here's a situation in which JP
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: Crawford checked the ego at the door and said, hey,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: you know what, I'm good? Are you suggesting Castillo did
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: the same thing. I mean, we.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: Everyone's different, but I know for a fact because I
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 3: saw this, I don't I can't remember if it was
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: a social media post or something. Two years ago when
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: they decided not to have Louis Castillo be the opening
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 3: day starter and they wanted it to be Logan Gilbert instead.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 3: Castillo is all about it and wanted to be the
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: one to tell Logan Gilbert. I do remember that that
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: was this year, wasn't it last year? It last year
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: going into last year. Wanted it to be the one
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: to tell Logan Gilbert himself. So he hasn't had any
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: issues about this kind of stuff in the past. And
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: like I said, like you said, he actually looked pretty
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: dang good bullpen.
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: Listen he when he came out there, and what the
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: seventh and eighth innings, Yeah, was lights out? Looked so
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: much better was lights out? And then he gets to
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: the ninth he walks their best hitter, right, which you're nibbling.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean he's easily their best, most dangerous hitter.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: So he's nibbling there.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: And then he hits the second guy the chest.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if you're going to take one for
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: the two.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: Then but then because they couldn't replace him, but because
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: you can't replace him, yeah, and he gets the strikeout,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: and let's here's why he Let's go back though, why
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: could they not replace him because your manager didn't know
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: the rule? No, that wasn't it. Because they had to
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: send the pitching coach out to buy time, right because
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: the closer wasn't ready. Munos wasn't ready.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: And you, if you knew this was going to be
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: what you wanted to do, he should be ready to
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 3: start the inning.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: But then the dude goes out and just bears down strikeout.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah against the lefty, A good lefty and one of
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 3: the best headers, calls to Montgomery.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: I'll just go back. I we're all questioning everything because
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: that's what we all do. We're all armchair managers. We're
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: all good at it. And that's that's the fun thing
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: about sports radio and what we do. We paid for it, well,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: we get paid sometimes. I think every I think they're paid.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: I think every two weeks, a couple of weeks, a
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: couple weeks. But they but like the concept worked. I think,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: what if you just kept him in there? That is
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: an option. The dude had just gained some confidence from
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: striking him out, Like the place is jacked up, and
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: you bring it, you bring on, you're a ground ball
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: away from the game being over at that point, exactly, right, right, Well, yeah,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: I mean I did like like when he came out,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: it's like, okay, he's got it back.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: Seventh thinning, look at him, eighth look at him.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyway, Well we'll see. I think there's a lot.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: I think I think that Wilson, in his defense, has
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: to manage not just the baseball, but as we just
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: talked about, you know, there's a managing of the there's
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: a managing of the the egos and stuff as well.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: You know Camp spit's a good example of that down
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: in Houston, right, Like, how do you deal with the
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: young players? How do you deal with you know, guys
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: that struggle. I mean, listen, cold Emerson, if we're being honest,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: has struggled at the plate. The results have not been there.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: Right, he had the three run home runs, awesome, A
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: couple of walks here and there, a couple of walks.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: He's aggressive.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 6: I like it.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: I like I like the approach. He's aggressive. He didn't
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: go up there getting cheated. But it's he's gonna probably
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: he's gonna we're gonna have some Yeah, we're gonna he's
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: gonna up and down. I mean he was tearing the
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: cover off the ball. No statistically, at least no in Tacoma.
• 1:10:50
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  Speaker 1: Let's get to it. The we we had ed the
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  Speaker 1: the Krack and Hockey Network and also the TNT broadcast
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: came on and we had them on for a while.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: He had a lot to say offseason audits, where the Kraken,
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: how far away are they from getting to the level
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: that we're seeing right now, which would be way for
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: it the conference finals in the NHL. So what must
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: Seattle do? Eddie?
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 6: There needs to be some aggression. I think there needs
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 6: to be put your plumbs on the table mentality and
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 6: figure this thing out. You just can't keep being a
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 6: you know, an idling team and hoping that you have
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 6: the majority of your team have career years all at
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 6: the same time. You need you need a star, you
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 6: need a game breaker.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: I know somebody else that's been yelling at that. That's
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: what a lot of people have. Let's be honest, a
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: lot of people have.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: Let me think, oh, that's right, anders Hurst and the
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: hockey boys Jack so much, you've been that Like he's
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: talking and you're just in there pumping your fists and celebrating.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: Both that and the Montor discussion.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: I was like, yes, yes, yeah, yes, uh just play
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: that first, like, I'll tell you when to stop.
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: Play it again, real fast, mot I'll tell you to stop.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 6: There needs to be some aggression. I think there needs
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 6: to be put your plums on the table mentality. Right there.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: I had not heard that term before. Put your plums
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 3: on the table. I had not heard that. I had
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 3: not heard that term before.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: What does it mean sack up baby? Yeah, okay, I
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: mean it's pretty simple.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: Those are pretty bigs, are pretty big big.
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: Put your plums on the table, be aggressive and put
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: your plums on it. I agree, I like it.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 6: The Yeah.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: Listen, he said everything that a lot of people have
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 1: been saying for a while. One thing I'll just go
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: back to from a year ago because he did mention this,
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: So mention this. They said they were going to be
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: bold and aggressive last summer. They weren't. They just weren't.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 6: Now.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: In defense of those in the hockey operation side, thanks
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: two to tangle like they made the move with Mason Marshman.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: It didn't work out, and to their credit they cut
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: bait early and got rid of it. Yeah, in fact,
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: recouped even a little bit of a better pick than
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: they gave away. But it's just something that's also talked about. Right.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: But if you make a mistake, then fix it. Here's
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: who when they've made mistakes in terms of Hires Paxtall
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: or bilesm packs All extension bilesm Hire. The ownership has
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: done the right thing, cut bait, move on, make admit
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: the mistake, and we get to cost some money. Even
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: to cost some money hockey operations, as Edzo was saying,
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: just to kind of sum up his conversations, they got
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: to do the same. And the best time to get
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: rid of a prospect is when you know more about
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: him than anybody else and you know what the limitations
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: are and what the ceiling is, and make a move.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: They have been very reluctant to do that, to give
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: up on prospects, and.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: You're gonna be wrong sometimes, Yeah, you're going to trade
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: a guy and he's gonna pop.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: The only thing I know for certain Anders in this
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: offseason with what they're gonna do, is what they're not
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: gonna do. They're not gonna resign Alexia. They're not going
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: to resign shorts. I think that those are two givens,
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: like twenty four and seventeen are gone. Outside of that,
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: everything's on the table. Put your plums on the table, sir,
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: including your plums. Everything's on the table, including your plums.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: The beauty like that, that's just he's an absolute beauty.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 6: But he's right.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: When you have two answers twenty five minutes, I think
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: I had three questions.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, the.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: I love to what he said. I love what I heard,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: but I understand he's very honest about Bobby McMahon. Right,
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: I think that's priority number one. I think we all do.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: They don't get him resigned, you've already had that's already
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: a big negative in your off season. But as Zoe said,
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: he's an unrestricted free agent. He's has a choice. He
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: has choice. That's the thing that we also have to remember.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: Like when they're trying to make moves. God, like ninety
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: percent of the league, it feels like has no trade
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: clauses in their contract to get guys to wave stuff.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: That's why there's a lot of control in the NHL.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: Why are other teams able to make moves?
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: Then, well, everybody wants to go to Vegas. That's one.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: Like everybody wants to go to Vegas. And you listen,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: you can't fight them, right, you just I mean there's
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: nothing you can do.
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 6: You can't.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: I mean they're in Vegas, they have Everybody wants to
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: be in Vegas. Uh paneren who they wanted wanted to
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: be his wife wanted to be in LA. I'm staying
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: in New York or move me to LA.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: Like I said, players in this league have a lot
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: of leverage. And then other teams that are good. They've
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: drafted really well, guys have developed sales only five years
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: into it, so I give them a little bit of
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: a break. And they haven't. They have not missed like
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: a game changing guy besides Lane Hudson and whatever. Right, Yeah,
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's a huge right, but I mean
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: like they haven't. It's not like Macklin Celebrine has been
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: there and they could take him right right or Eric
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: Eric Badard, Connor Bdard, Eric Badard's here. Eric Barnard says,
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: I don't want to play hockey. I have to play
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: sixty minutes, No chance. I'm good for four innings or
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: one hundred pitches. That's whatever comes from Eric Badard. He
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: was like that, he was the baseball equivalent of a
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: car warranty. Four or five innings, one hundred pitches, whatever
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: comes first.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 6: I'm done.
• 1:17:36
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  Speaker 1: game of the homestand yesterday. They hit the road, starting
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  Speaker 1: the Sun's first win of the year. Lions signed linebacker
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  Speaker 1: national team defender Chris Richards suffered two torn legments as
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  Speaker 1: in North America, but sounds very promising he still may
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  Speaker 1: the US. He's their starting center back. Anders tells us
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  Speaker 3: Talk all things Seahawks, and we're gonna have the next
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  Speaker 3: ladies and gentlemen. We are in OTA season followed by
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: mandatory mini camp season in the month of June, and
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: we'll be out there on Tuesday doing the radio show
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  Speaker 3: as the Seahawks have their first open OTAs for us
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  Speaker 3: in the media. Looking forward to that and that show
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  Speaker 3: out there, I'll see my friend Corbyn Smith who joined
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  Speaker 3: us right now. Hello, sir, how are you?
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  Speaker 7: I'm good? How are you good?
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  Speaker 5: Sir?
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  Speaker 6: I'm good. I'm very good.
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  Speaker 1: One thing, I know you were on last week, but
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: it was part of the schedules out, not the entire
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  Speaker 1: schedules out, because it came out about two and a
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  Speaker 1: half hours after you had your Thursday visit with who
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: was filling in for me last Thursday? Was it and
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: Andrews filling in? So let's just kind of well, before
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: we're talking about OTAs and got some good stuff. He's
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 1: got an Animal City spectrum by the way, fans Seahawks
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 1: fans about the camp battles on offense, defense, Devin Witherspoon contract,
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: potentially all that stuff. Before we get to that, let's
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  Speaker 1: just kind of put a ball on the schedule. When
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  Speaker 1: it's all said and done, what'd you think.
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  Speaker 5: I think that it went about as good as it
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 5: could have possibly gone for the Seahawks. I mean, with
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  Speaker 5: having so many home primetime games and one of the
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 5: toughest stretches on the schedule being mostly home games between
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  Speaker 5: Week four and Week eight.
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  Speaker 7: Really the only.
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  Speaker 5: Part that you can look at and say, man, that
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  Speaker 5: maybe that's not necessarily great as having three road games
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  Speaker 5: in the final four games, two of those games being
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  Speaker 5: against the Rams. There's always something you can look at.
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  Speaker 5: There's no such thing as a perfect schedule, but I
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  Speaker 5: think this is a better schedule than what the Seahawks
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  Speaker 5: had a year ago in terms of being able to
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  Speaker 5: rack up wins.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, if text four nine four to five
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  Speaker 1: today as well, if to just go to the iHeartRadio
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  Speaker 1: app the red microphone. Clifford, where are you okay?
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  Speaker 6: Let me?
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned this the other day and I'd love to
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  Speaker 1: get your thoughts. What I hate? This is the third
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  Speaker 1: is it?
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  Speaker 5: Third?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Twenty three, twenty four, fourth year in a row. I
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  Speaker 1: believe that they are going to finish with two straight
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  Speaker 1: road games. I don't like that. I hate that you
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: mentioned three the final four and with the final two
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: being on the road against two playoff teams Carolina, which
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 1: was its exact same as last year. You finished, you know,
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  Speaker 1: second to last week with Carolina on the road, and
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  Speaker 1: then instead of San Francisco, this year it's the Rams.
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  Speaker 1: I hate that. Here's what I do like, I think
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  Speaker 1: this kind of has this collegiate feel to it. The
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  Speaker 1: NFL saying we're kind of thinking at Seattle and the
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  Speaker 1: Rams in the NFC West. I kind of like heading
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  Speaker 1: in to the Rams and Seattle two of the final
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  Speaker 1: three games with probably a hell of a lot on
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  Speaker 1: the line, whereas if those games were played earlier, maybe
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  Speaker 1: we wouldn't have as much drama down the stretch. So
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  Speaker 1: I do like that part of the Rams schedule. I
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: do hate the part of the final two on the
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  Speaker 1: road and three to the final four, like you.
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  Speaker 5: Said, yeah, especially when you're looking at a season where Seattle,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, the NFC this year has nine home games
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  Speaker 5: versus eight away games. With the unbalanced schedule, you'd like
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  Speaker 5: to see it where it was like fifty percent instead
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 5: of three out of four to close out the year,
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  Speaker 5: and you know, maybe get a looming field game in
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  Speaker 5: there to the end of the season. Would be really nice.
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  Speaker 5: But I guess if Seahawk fans wants something to be
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  Speaker 5: excited about. I mean, Seattle went into Santa Clara in
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  Speaker 5: the season finale and won to clinch the number one,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 5: and they were back there a few weeks later winning
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  Speaker 5: a super Bowl. Guess where the super Bowl is at
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 5: this year? It's Sofi Stadium and the Seahawks are gonna
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 5: be playing Week eighteen and Sofi Stadium.
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  Speaker 7: So can you try to write a very.
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  Speaker 5: Similar script to what you had last year? Obviously that's
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 5: getting way way ahead, but just got of some fun.
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  Speaker 3: Food for thought to throw out there for the twelve
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  Speaker 3: I love your column Amal Cityspectrum dot com about basically
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 3: the sophomore class, the second year players that Seattle has,
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: and the draft class lat Listen.
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  Speaker 1: We all know about grays Abel, we all know about
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: Nicki min Worri. I think maybe there's a couple forgotten
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: guys in that mix, though, and you wrote about him.
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  Speaker 1: We'll start with Tory Horton, fifth round pick. We saw glimpses,
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  Speaker 1: but he was never healthy. If he's healthy, what can
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: Tory Horton give his second.
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  Speaker 5: Year Well, first, then he gives the Seahawks that they
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 5: missed at the end of the season last year was
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 5: the red zone capabilities. He had five touchdown catches on
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 5: thirteen receptions in the first nine games. To put this
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 5: in perspective, ian he was tied with Jackson Smith's and
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 5: jigbuff for the team lead for receiving touchdowns when he
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 5: hurt his shin and then missed the rest.
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  Speaker 7: Of the season.
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  Speaker 5: He also had a ninety five yard punt return for
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 5: a touchdown. I have a feeling that the Seahawks they're
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 5: not gonna completely take Rashid Shaheed off tacking punt returns
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 5: because that would be malpractice, but they want him to
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 5: be a bigger part of their offensive attack, and I
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 5: think there's going to be, at least in the early
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 5: stage of the season, there are gonna be moments where
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 5: they're gonna say, look, Rashid, we're gonna we're gonna put
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 5: Tory Horton out there to return the punt this time.
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  Speaker 5: And it's not because we don't think you can do it.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 5: We know you can, but we're you know, we're trying
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 5: to limit how many times you're getting hit and open field.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 5: We want to make sure we keep you healthy. On offense,
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  Speaker 5: Tory Horton gives them that capability as well.
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  Speaker 7: He can run.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 5: He's got good good side at six foot two. And again,
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 5: we saw the red zone capabilities last year before he
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 5: got hurt, and Seattle's red zone offense was not as
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 5: good the last month and a half of the regular season.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 5: They took a step back there. Having him out there
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 5: with Rashid Shaheed, we've never seen those two in the
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 5: field together, to go with Jackson Smith and Jigba and
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 5: Cooper Cup Jake Bobo. It's as good of a receiving
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 5: core as you're going to find in the league. And
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 5: I still think that he could end up being the
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 5: second best receiver on the team if he can just
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 5: stay healthy.
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  Speaker 7: That's been the biggest question mark dating back to his
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 7: time at Colorado State.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: Cormence Smith joining au Central City Spectrum, the other guy
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: that just jumped out at me for second year, and
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: there's others, but we'll move on after this. And you
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: mentioned him Riley Mills a year ago. Right now, all
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: we saw was Riley Mills walking around the field because
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: he was coming off a catastrophic not catastrophic, but a
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: season ending injury at Notre Dame his final year in
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: college and even during training camp, all we saw was him,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: you know, in a T shirt and shorts because he
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: wasn't fully healthy yet. Well and behold, when is he
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 1: going to finally be healthy? Little thing called that Super
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: Bowl game and we saw just a glimpse of Riley Mills.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: He was played before that, obviously, but we saw a glimpse.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: What can Riley Mills flying unto the radar do for
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: this team?
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 7: Well?
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 5: I think you know, if people are following my reporting
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 5: and some of the other good reporters that cover this team,
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 5: I don't know that he's going to be flying under
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 5: the radar going into the season. Yeah, at least the
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 5: Seahawks fans, because I think he probably would have been
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 5: a second round pick last year if he was healthy.
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 5: That's the kind of player that we're talking about. He
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 5: is a stingy run defender. He is just destructive turning
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 5: speed to power as a bull rusher. And he did
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 5: that so many times at Notre Dame. And it just
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 5: felt like when he first came back in December last year,
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 5: and this would be expected. He didn't have a preseason,
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 5: he didn't have a training camp.
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 7: That was his preseason.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 5: In training camp, was just on the fly, getting thrown
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 5: into games in the middle of a race for the
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 5: number one seed, and he got a handful of snaps
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 5: and he could tell that he was trying to get
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 5: his legs back underneath him.
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  Speaker 7: And then once they.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 5: Got into the playoffs, and then he got into that
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 5: Super Bowl game, he had two pressers on five snaps,
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 5: like he was just eating New England's interior offensive line alive.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 5: And the sack he had, he sacked the guard too.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 5: I mean he brought both the guard and the quarterback
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 5: Drake maydown. Those are the kind of plays that you
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 5: saw though at Notre Dame. He can play three tech.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 5: He can play that big end position and be equally
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 5: disruptive at both, can defend.
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  Speaker 7: The run at a high level.
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  Speaker 5: Really good kid as well. I look, I think he
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 5: is going to get He's gonna be the guy that
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 5: comes in after you have Byron Murphy, the second Leonard Williams.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 5: He might have a chance to push into Jaron Reid
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 5: snaps this year. That's how bullish I am on him.
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: I'm excited to watch a healthy Riley Mills play. And
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 1: I mean he was funny in the Super Bowl. Guy
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: gets a sack and I think ninety percent Hawk fail.
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 1: Who what and just burst on the scene. Thanks for coming.
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  Speaker 1: Let's let's talk about what we're watching in OTAs. You
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: wrote about a guy that I had an interview with
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: when we were out there during rookie mini caamp. He
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: was part of it because he didn't cure enough fifty
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: three man days and all that. He was on the
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: roster all year, either practice squad or fifty three man.
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  Speaker 1: But that's Ricky White, the third UNLV. He was a
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  Speaker 1: draft pick in the seventh round in twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 1: You wrote about him being a guy that's quote top
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 1: threat receiver gunner. We know they drafted Emmanuel Henderson junior
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 1: and also could be part of that as well. What
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: can Ricky White do to make this football team and
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: what is he capable of doing?
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  Speaker 6: Do you think?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the biggest thing that when he watched
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 5: UNLV tape for Ricky White, it was his meticulous route running.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 5: This is a guy that ran a four to six one,
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 5: and I think he's a little faster than that. I
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 5: think that he plays faster in game speed than that.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 5: And we know the scene Hawks Josh Schneider's reference to
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 5: the GPS speed tracking quite often they're they're ahead of
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 5: the curve on that. But his game is predicated on
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 5: his smooth route running and being able to beat defenders
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 5: that way rather than just you know, winning with juice.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 5: Where I think Emmanuel Henderson, the newcomer that just came in,
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 5: he's a legit four to three guy on tape. That's
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 5: a guy that can win with separation and his athletic ability.
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 5: I think Ricky White he can do that, but it's
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 5: his route running savvy. The guy blocked a million punts
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 5: at UNLV two. So you know, Jay Harball wants to
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 5: see if there's a way that he can get him
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 5: more involved in their special teams this year, and with
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 5: Jake Young being gone, that is that is a big
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 5: hole on special teams. Ricky White is very much going
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 5: to be in the mix. As you mentioned my article,
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 5: I've got Emmanuel Henderson is the favorite going into this,
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 5: but the top front is Ricky White and a lot
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 5: of it has to do with him being a savvy
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 5: football player with soft hay and I think he is
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 5: going to come out with a major chip on his
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 5: shoulder ready to try to earn a spot that he
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 5: couldn't quite get to last year as a rookie.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 1: I'm excited to watch the running back rotation. Shadari and
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: Price top pick. He's going to be number one. We
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: all know that there's other guys in the mix, though,
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: George Halaane, Emmanuel Wilson signed from Green Bay, Kenny McIntosh
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: coming off of a knee injury. I think JACCARTI right,
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: we would go into that as well. Right, he'd probably
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 1: be part of that mix. We'll see he's coming off
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: an injury too. So what are we looking for at
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 1: running back?
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 5: Well, right now, the first thing that everybody's gonna want
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 5: to your eyes are gonna gravitate you to Darien Price,
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 5: and understandably so he is going to be getting that
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 5: first crack to show that he can be the number
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 5: one guy. George Tallanti though we know how much.
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 7: John Schneider and Mike McDonald love him.
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 5: His third down capabilities, the soft hands, the pass protection stuff.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 5: This is going to be his really his best opportunity
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 5: to come in and say, hey, rook I know that
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 5: you were a first round pick, but hey, I've been
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 5: around the last couple of years. I think I can
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 5: hold you off for a little while. So this is
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 5: a great chance for him as long as he can
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 5: stay healthy. He's had a few bumps and bruises since
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 5: he came into the league. Emmanuel Wilson's that natural goal
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 5: line back. We're not going to really get to evaluate
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 5: him until the pads come on. With his running style, like,
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 5: he's a guy that you know you can see him
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 5: in uniform out there, but he's going to be somebody
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 5: that we want to see with the pads come on.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 5: Jakarti Wright much the same way. We only the biggest
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 5: curiosity's gonna be Kenny McIntosh. What does he look like
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 5: coming off the injury because he played well in twenty
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 5: twenty four he has five and a half yards per carry.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 5: The problem he's going to have and I wrote about
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 5: this in the articles, Well, I look, Jadaran Price is
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 5: a similar style runner, just have a lot more talent.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 5: That's the reality. He is a first round caliber player.
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 5: Kenny McIntosh was a seventh round pick. He doesn't have
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 5: the same athletic juice. But Price is kind of that
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 5: gliding style runner that has that one cut ca capability
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 5: in the zone game. I just wonder if macintosh it
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 5: seems like He's gonna be in a tricky situation here,
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 5: not just coming up the injury, but because stylistically he's
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 5: probably the closest to Jenarian Price that the Seahawks have.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 5: I just don't know if that's gonna be something they're
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 5: gonna want to double up on in.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 6: Their depth chart.
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 5: So it's gonna be fascinating to see how that ended
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 5: up playing out with him health wise, where he fits
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 5: in coming back.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: Who do you think likes George hallanymore? John Schneider, Corbyn Smith,
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: Rob rang.
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 7: Uh Probably me.
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 5: I will admit if there's a bias to it, I've
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 5: been I've been a Boise State fan for my entire life,
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 5: but I try not to look at it from that lens.
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 5: I mean, the guy beat he was ahead of Ashton
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 5: gent or three years ago in the depth chart like
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 5: he's he's got injuries have just been a big thing,
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 5: But he's just I kned that George Hallani is that
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 5: perfect guy to have in your locker room in the
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 5: sense that he's gonna do whatever you ask him to do,
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 5: and he's gonna do it well.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 7: He might not be elite.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 5: At anything, but he's gonna he's gonna be effective at
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 5: whatever you ask him to do. You want him to
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 5: go down and recover a fumble in the end zone
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 5: on a kick, He's.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 7: Gonna do it.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 5: You want him to go blast somebody on a punt coverage,
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 5: He'll go do it. You want him to go bully
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 5: a linebacker on a blitz, He's gonna do what he
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 5: can to do it. And I think that's why Schneider
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 5: McDonald love him so much.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go rankings. Corbyn Smith won Rob Rang a
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: close number to John Schneider a distant three, although still
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 1: positive in John's case because he's been around here for
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: a few years. But that's that's my racket.
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 5: You know, I'm gonna disagree with that one because I
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 5: work with Rob every single time.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 7: I think Schneider's ahead of him.
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: Okay, because I had I had a.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 5: Times did he bring up doesn't he bring up? Halani
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 5: unprompted this offseason it felt like I walked out of it.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: Well, you're right, I just I had a couple I had.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: I had to have a couple of times where I
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 1: had to calm. I felt I had to kind of
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: take Rang off the off the of the hype train
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: with Flani during our Friday visits. But but I'll ask
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: if you're there, you're doing it. You're doing the pod
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: with them all the time more often than I am. Okay,
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 1: one more thing we're watching for OTA's you want to
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: just go to the cornerback rotation. We saw the two starters,
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: Witherspoon and job Jail. They were at the Storm game
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: last night hanging out by the way, simply Seattle. You
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: guys are talking about like, Hey, these guys a job
• 1:34:32
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• 1:34:33
  Speaker 6: I want that.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: Give me a job jail T shirt, simply Hey Jake,
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: you listening, Jamie Addie, job jail T shirt? Give me
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: to give it to me. Let's go after those two guys.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: What are we looking at?
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, this is the most fascinating position battle in my
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 5: opinion going into OTAs because you've got the incumbent, which
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 5: is me and my appreciate this is going to be
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 5: his best chance to show that he can be the
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 5: number three guy had up down play when he played.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 7: Last year in the lineup.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 5: Then you've gotten Noah Monogamy, a former first round pick
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 5: that Mike McDonald has loved for a long time, and
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 5: maybe Mike McDonald can be the magician that gets that
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 5: first round talent out of him because he hasn't played
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 5: to that level with three different teams in his first
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 5: six seasons in the league. But he's still only twenty six.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 5: Might be a guy to keep a close eye on.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 5: And then you got, in fact, they spent like it
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 5: felt like they spent all of their draft picks on corners.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 5: You've got Julian Neil, You've got Andre Fuller, Michael Dansby,
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 5: all those guys are going to be trying to buy
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 5: for snaps there as well. And you've got a number
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 5: of different style of players there. You've got a few
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 5: players like you can play inside and out. You've got
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 5: players of Julian Neil that are going to be as
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 5: strictly boundary corners. You're not gonna get to see him
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 5: hit anybody until we get into training camp. But Oka
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 5: is gonna tell what that pecking order is look looking like,
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 5: and it is going to give you some signs what
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 5: things are trending towards as we head towards the start
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 5: of training camp in July. So that is going to
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 5: be a position that I am going to be watching
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 5: extremely close I'm excited.
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• 1:36:07
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• 1:36:10
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• 1:36:12
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• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: we start looking at It's like who's in Okay, who's here,
• 1:36:16
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• 1:36:18
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• 1:36:20
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• 1:36:24
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  Speaker 11: JP got demoted, He got flat out demoted. He didn't
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 11: sacrifice anything, he got demoted, and now he's begging to
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 11: play third base to have a spot on this team.
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 11: That's it sugarcoating it like it's he got to mooted
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 11: and now he's bagging first spot on the team.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 7: That's all.
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 3: The only person that truly knows the answer to this
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 3: person's Dan Wilson, Jera Poto, Justin Hollander. I don't, But
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 3: I don't even know if JP, I do? You do
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 3: we really believe that they were gonna when Donovan came back.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: Just say, hey, JP, you're out of the lineup. I don't.
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: I really don't think they were gonna do that. I
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: don't think they were either. Yeah, I don't think there's
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: any chance to do that, to be honest with you.
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 3: And if JP knew that they weren't gonna do that,
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 3: and he was in, as this person says, trying to
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 3: save a spot on the team, he didn't have to
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 3: do what he did. He he wasn't forced. He would
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 3: have stayed in the lineup. It probably would have been
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 3: cold T Emerson, that's gonna, you know, move around a
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 3: little bit, or Colt Timerson place third and Brendan Donovan
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 3: becomes your utility man.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: Whatever. I think.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 3: This is a Hey, I'm realizing that the best chance
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 3: for us to win is me not playing shortstop. And
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 3: that's what leaders do, and that's what I believe happened.
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 12: Yeah, Yeah, I think that's I think I think that's
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 12: pretty accurate. I mean, again, do we all know no,
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 12: but that it like sometimes you just got to try
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 12: to deduct things from all the stuff you have. I
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 12: just want to hit this real quick, seven four zero. Ian,
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 12: as you address JP Crawford News with cold, can you
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 12: talk about Brendan Donnovan. He seems like a piece that
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 12: we would want to keep around for a few years.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 12: As at the game Saturday and as a service member,
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 12: I really appreciated his message about people in uniforms and
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 12: made a fan. I didn't hear the message, but it
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 12: sounds like it was powerful from Brendan Donovan. The Donovan
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 12: thing got how I mean, couldn't start off any better?
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 12: Home run, leadoff home run to start the season.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 3: But he's just not healthy, right, and which is weird
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 3: because he hasn't had that issue before in his career.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: No, but he had off season sports ernia whatever it was,
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: and the groins a problem, and someone who has had
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: that it is not an easy recovery. Well, and think
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: about what got to do the twisting and the like
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: batting and swinging and the tour you have comes from there. Yeah,
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: your your core and down below. Yeah, that's a lot,
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: and then trying to play in the field. But I
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: love to hear the story about him being great with
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: that message, whatever it was.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: He's a son of a colonel in the army.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 1: Let's see six mariners. Please tell listen to Ed Zoe
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: and throw the analytics into the sound.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 6: Does.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you right now it is not like
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: the underlying analytical numbers in sports, which is funny because
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: you know where those are kind of prevalent sometimes horse racing. Yeah,
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: it's true.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 3: And so you're in two very prominent places where analytics
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 3: are used, hockey and horse racing.
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: Two O six uh tell Edso I love him. I
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: want a five hundred and sixty dollars on a twenty
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: dollars bet at the race. There you go use analytics
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: to get this well, because I don't know how he
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: seems like when I say analytics in racing, right, there's
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: like if you ever picked up a racing for him,
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: or or the program at Emerald.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 2: My dad brought me to OTB after school.
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: It's intricate, like all the numbers and all the little things.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: And here's what he is. A quarter pole like all that.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: There's a lot there guys that are good at know
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 1: all that stuff. Ze's good at it. Numbers d Zoe.
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: I want to call him analytics. Oh yeah, I don't know.
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 4: I think he's thinking of analytics as a computer. He
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 4: prefers a piece of paper.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: I think so too.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 2: You're all analytics, though.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: He'll get after analytics tonight of the game. And it's
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: about how you use it. Let's be honest.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: It's a tool.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a tool. Nothing personal to have to If
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: I have to look at Connor Joe playing one more
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: game simply because he's right hand and I'm gonna boo
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: Wilson too late, send them both packing. Dan can brush
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: Joe's hair in the garden somewhere. Oh my god, man,
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: Connor John's great. He does have some luscious locks. He's
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 1: got some really good.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 2: Good hair on that team.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah, uh two six.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: I appreciate JP offering to go to third base, but
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: the dude can't throw, and no way you can consistently
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: make that throw from third base first base. We talked
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 1: about it earlier. It's I think there's times when Bucky
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: gets back and be a good question asking.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it would be you know, well, I think a
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 3: lot of the throws that he had trouble making were
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 3: not because of the distance, right, It was because of
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 3: the way he was Yeah, the way his body was
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 3: moving before the throw.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: He just couldn't get He can't get there.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 3: So say you're moving to your right and then you
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 3: have to throw across your body right that it's not
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 3: the distance of getting there, but because you have to
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 3: move a lot at shortstop and most balls are hit
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 3: to that area on the ground statistically versus third base,
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 3: you're kind of playing with everything in front of you.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 3: You never have to really move back and that much
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 3: to the side right. Therefore he can kind of step
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 3: into throws a little bit more. That's why I think
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 3: the arm strength isn't a big deal. I'd mentioned this
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 3: to you before the show. Kyle Seager had a noodle
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 3: arm and he was an awesome third basement defensively.
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 4: So I would also say that JP said his own
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 4: bar so high with some of the acrobatic and ridiculous
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 4: plays that he has already made at shortstop, he set
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 4: the bar like way.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 2: Too high for himself.
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 4: So I think that from a fan expectation perspective, they
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 4: might expect.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: When he came here and was like a goal glover.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: It was good six years ago.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, literally.
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 3: Was that the COVID year really seeks so the COVID
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 3: shortened year.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: I felt like it was four.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: I don't want to take any away from his COVID
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: shorten year. There's a lot of stuff that Evan White was
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 1: a goal glover that year too. Yes, who's out of baseball?
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: I think yes, But we've seen what JP can do.
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 4: And that is me not taking away from what he's done,
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 4: but I think that from a fan perspective.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 2: There were a couple bar is very high.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: There are a couple people is taking issue with us
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 1: talking about his bat is his eye, but listen, getting
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 1: on and Emo brought this up. Yes, getting on.
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 3: Base standard statistics don't really I mean as a seven
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 3: twenty two, yes, but getting on basis of skill.
• 1:44:59
  Speaker 1: And especially if you're lead on right and and the
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: ability to get on base, you know, like to take
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: a walk. He seems to be the only guy in
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: this team that has any clue about what the A B.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 1: S system is. Maybe Mitch Garver that's his only skill,
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 1: not behind a home plate. He doesn't.
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 6: It's true, he's been awful.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 3: He kind of screwed Louis cast you a couple of times,
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 3: but not challenging exactly in that.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: You know, who really needs to never never tap the
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 1: top of his helmet again? Is my favorite player the
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: Canadian Josh Naylor like, don't don't do it, dude, you
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: are always wrong. Stop it. Just like someone it's not
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: for you.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 3: Someone needs to put a spike on his helmet so
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 3: he can't like.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 2: A pigeon detector detector.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Josh, okay, this is interesting.
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: I so two three, I can feel it in my plums.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 2: There's a lot of plums are coming in.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: To why why oh yeah, two six says are you
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 1: sure didn't say put the your palms on the table.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure he said plo he said plums too.
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 4: Well, that is such an annoying visual for me to
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 4: get play.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: The audio again.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah, let's listen. So you have find there needs to
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 6: be some aggression. I think there needs to be put
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 6: your plums on the table mentality.
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: It makes put your palms on the table. What is that?
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: That's very that's a passive thing.
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  Speaker 4: I've heard onions, I've heard well nuts, I've heard a
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 4: lot of things.
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  Speaker 2: I have not heard plums.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: Plums, those are big. We may well he didn't. We
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: may want to isolate. Put your plums on the table
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: as a drop for softy. That's a gift from us
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: to them. Okay, why don't we use drops because I
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: don't know how to use the thing?
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 7: Is it on it?
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: It is now on? Yes, let's see I have this one.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: What are we doing?
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 2: We love?
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 1: Well, we can just keep it for ourselves. But I
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 1: mean it's fine, let's not give it to them. Pop
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 1: your head out of your.
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 4: Have a couple of different drops. When we used to
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 4: have Louke Wilson on all.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: The time, I like this one.
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 2: Ferguson, Yeah, clearly what is Ferguson doing?
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 1: I haven't looked him up in a way I know.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 3: Remember that trade. Yeah, we all liked it at the time.
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 3: I'd much rather I'm telling you that right now.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 2: Oh that's hid sight. But can you feel it down?
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: Oh yes, we could. I just don't have.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 2: My own wall, and I can make you one.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: Okay if you want, give me get me plumps. Get
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: me plumps, all right, I want the plums. That's what
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 1: we need.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: I'll make the wall.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I I just have it in my
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: box pro years, like.
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 6: I want, I want?
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: What are we doing? And plumps? We'll start there. Okay,
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: sounds good.
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 6: Can we do that?
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 7: All right?
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: But see then I'll use this and he'll because he
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: always comes in who talks? I don't know.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 4: All right, We'll just have Andrews keep it in yeah,
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 4: and I'll just kind of throw it in his own
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 4: little toy.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my toy. Yeah, two six years. The thought
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: have an actual three basement on your roster, dude, I
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: said that. I said that in the off season.
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's not get Gino a one year, fifteen million
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 3: dollar da.
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 2: Oh, I think we could use those.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: Hello, six maritors, please listen to Edzo. This is the
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: second one of these. Put your plums on the table.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of plums texts, a lot of plum Yes,
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 4: a lot of people. Uh.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: Two others I'm gonna read here real quick.
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 13: One.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: How is it that Ian loss this fantasy football league,
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: but Jess is the one getting punished.
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 2: That's a very really fair point.
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 4: It's a good question, you know what, because I invite
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 4: punishment on a daily basis.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: I was ready they ready for tomorrow.
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 4: I I've been having show meetings with them every day.
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: What do they want to talk about?
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: I have an entire rundown prepared already.
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: This is this is something she's not used to with
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: the current host in any way, shape or form. I
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 1: know what they want to figure that out usually on
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: a on a morning after the second cup of coffee
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 1: and visit the chief and see what's going on. And
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I think I'll do this.
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 4: And I have half the rundown already planned from like
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 4: three days before.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 2: Here goes and if you change it, I roll with it.
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: Three curious with the signs of the May and Maple
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 1: Valley Tournament going to be, I'm hoping I didn't miss it.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: You did not. It's coming in the next few weeks.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 1: We'll give you a heads up. Don't worry about that,
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: so stand by. I do know the beer looks like
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 1: it's the third Friday in August. I believe for the beer,
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: the same score to beat or same people to beat. Yeah,
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: are you and are you in the captain available?
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah for the beer, No, for the for the golf.
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 1: Would you shoot last year? I think our combined score
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 1: is even far Man could always I could always recruit
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: Fain's kid, and then no one's going to get a
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: beer car. That's that's true.
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 3: You want to balance, right, you don't want the guy
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 3: that's too good that no one wins.
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 2: How many times did Benton check?
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: They wind quite a few ash.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 3: And he played with wait for it, softies, so you
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 3: can imagine how that went.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I'm surprised Softie's head is still on
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 4: his head.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 1: That I got to those guys on eight and Softie
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: was blowing against he was blowing and gasket. Final one
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: is this big thanks to our friend Keith Miller. We're
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: on the street is Clifford and Megan Repino. We're riding
• 1:50:21
  Speaker 1: line bikes and Occidental and Clifford didn't survived the massive
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: port traffing. You know what? There we go and answer yeah,
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: because we have not heard from Clifford for a while.
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 6: That is we'll.
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: Tmz that one and say a source told.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: Us got Clifford and Repino on a on a line
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: bike for a podcast. Can you think of anything better? Well,
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: Clifford with Clifford with driving with Dave would be good.
• 1:50:43
  Speaker 1: Driving with Dave. Throw appearance too well, she didn't like anybody,
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 1: so that's not gonna work. A lot of plums, a
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 1: lot of thumbs.
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 4: It was very clearly planted thoughts too. It was very clearly,
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 4: very clearly it was not thumbs. And also that makes
• 1:51:02
  Speaker 4: no sense. He's saying, put your on the table.
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 1: Are the people filling in more taking callers?
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 3: No, no, we're not, We're not giving That was a
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 3: quick no, absolutely not.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's too many voices that you will hear from.
• 1:51:18
  Speaker 4: And also, we have a special appearance early in the
• 1:51:21
  Speaker 4: season from Brandon Funson at two point thirty, who is
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 4: taking responsibility for this honorary should us with his presence.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 1: He needs to take responsibility because it.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 2: Is a fantasy football fail on your part.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: Fail is understated catastrophic. Softy joins us next. So here's
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: the deal I was gonna give. I was going to
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 1: gift you a new drop. We're getting serious. I was
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: going to gift you a new drop, I think, and
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: we still will. You can use this, but we're also
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: going to on occasion, we may use this a new
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: term I had not heard, but you'll probably tell me
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: you heard it before. All right, from from the UH
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 1: Talk back line. Nope, nope, this is from Eddie Old check.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 1: So all right, I basically said, hey, what what do
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: the Kraken need to do? The front office need to do?
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 6: And put your plums on the table mentality.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: But we all know what plums are.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 6: Put your plums on the table mentality.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 2: I love it, visually accurate statement.
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 13: Yeah, you just put you on the table, sir. Well,
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 13: and and the bigger they are, the bigger the table.
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 1: Let's go right. I mean, we we're talking two hands
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 1: here when.
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 3: We're talking your plums plumbs right, well, what do you
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 3: think he's talking about hands?
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 1: I'm like, the bigger the plums, the bigger the hands.
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 6: That was that?
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 5: Here?
• 1:52:48
  Speaker 3: We're talking like elephant Titus here? What we're talking about?
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 3: Did you have another one? And did you have another one?
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 6: Talk?
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 1: I don't have a bunch of random ones that the
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: other one I was gonna play. We get to play
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 1: it is that that people are love and is he says.
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: He basically said to throw the analytics out the window.
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 3: So everyone's like, oh, I gotta find that like list
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 3: that will go over well yeah, but then hey, the
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 3: marriage to listen to him? To play that for your
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 3: coast on the hockey broadcast, I am well, they've had
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 3: that bat play that for her.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: No, they've no listen, they've had that battle. I'm not
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 1: I'm not getting involved.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 13: Want to see like I mean, I don't mean this
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 13: as an insult, So please don't take it like that
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 13: at all.
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 1: That's like her whole existence is analytics.
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 3: And there's a lot of people like that, right yeah, right, yeah, yeah,
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 3: that's a lot of broadcasts.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: I would love to hear Enzo and her. They have
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: had that issue.
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 13: Bring it to the air. They have really bring it,
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 13: bring it to this air. Oh no, okay, yeah that's
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 13: what I want.
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: Oh god, face. Well, here's the thing her shinny hockey.
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 6: Shinny bring hockey.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 13: I said, sha hear me say shitty Shitny Andrews, Did
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 13: I say shinny?
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: I said shitty.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 4: Just to drop but every problem, so be is going
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 4: on here?
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: Control before that ever happened, before that ever happened before.
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 1: Alison never said that on the air.
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 6: I said it.
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: So we're in the old place over there and we're
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: talking about something that might have been like early and
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: I said shinny hockey, and Kevin Shockey like to look
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: on his face and control. He lost it.
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 13: He would he would get that way when I would say,
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 13: shiggles and gets you.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: Because he always does. You screw up, not going to
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 1: what you do.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 13: I am a very profane person off the air. I
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 13: have a very dirty mouth. Yes, there's only one person
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 13: with a dirtier mouth than me, and it's my wife. Okay,
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 13: all right, And I can control my profanity unlike some
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 13: people around here. All right, I'm taking medication for it.
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 13: A bombs in an hour, Go see a doctor. I
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 13: can handle it. So you're shitty hockey shy?
• 1:54:56
  Speaker 6: Are you?
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: Are you? Is he aware of what's going on tomorrow
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 1: at two o'clock tomorrow tomorrow something in Canada tomorrow? I
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 1: don't have my show tomorrow.
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Ian Lass is fantasy football league, and so his
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 4: fantasy league gets to take over the two to three.
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 13: Let's just devote attire major market radio station to your
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 13: clown pals for an hour exactly what's going on?
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 6: Here's a question, here's a question. Can't we do that?
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: You should?
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 7: You know?
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: The best part was when I told Purple Sheet and
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: he's like, he goes, okay, just tell Jess she's in charge.
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 6: What if?
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 1: So just in charge? Who's coming?
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 3: Who's coming in tomorrow? There's a bunch of guys. All right,
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 3: so you're leaving, I'll be here. You'll be here observed. Now,
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 3: is he you watch me doing cross talking cross talk? No,
• 1:55:43
  Speaker 3: it's not my contract, all right.
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 13: It's only one person I have to talk to, and
• 1:55:46
  Speaker 13: it's you.
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: You're not here, it's her.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 2: Okay, I will be here, all right, So yeah, maybe
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 2: maybe we'll.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 13: Do cross talking. Just talk behind your back, just mad,
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 13: you know what, Just stuff up to do whatever you want, okay, yeah,
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 13: giving me If you're giving me cart blanche, then I'll
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 13: do it.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 6: Do whatever you need to do.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 13: I was telling you off the air, man Anders. I'm
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 13: driving in today. I heard something on the air that
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 13: I wanted to reference that. I thought it was funny.
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: I totally forgot are you hey, are you taking medication
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: for that too?
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 6: I forgot what the medication.
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 13: My buddy actually recommended this memory pill, and I forgot
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 13: what it was.
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 1: I got the culture of a of a war hawk.
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 13: I had to text my buddy and say, what was
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 13: you remember that memory drawing?
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: Oh my god?
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 6: All right, all right, so what are we doing?
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 1: What are you doing today? I'm talking to Hugh. You
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: talked to her off the air about whatever tomorrow.
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 13: You're talking You're talking to Hugh Tomorrow. You are I'm
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 13: talking to Hugh. No, what are you doing today?
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 6: What the hell's going on? Are you doing today? What?
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: God, you might need your hearing fixed too.
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 7: What?
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just said, you're talking to I said, what
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 1: are you doing? And then they said, I'm talking to Hugh.
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 13: Well, we're gonna make fun of you a little bit today,
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 13: by the way, Okay, good about what.
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: I'll figure it out.
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 13: Chuck's gonna join us when he wakes up from his
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 13: nap at four o'clock, and then Brett Boone will join
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 13: us at five pm tonight and talk about what it
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 13: was like to star and snow White in the Seven Dorms.
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 3: God for the mild mannered and marginally objectionable the Inverness.
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 1: This is paddle Day, saying so long everyone,