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Rasputin - Hypnotic Healer or Mad Monk (who smelled like a goat)? · Dirt Nap City - History's Most Interesting Dead People

• 0:03
  SPEAKER_01: Hello everybody.
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to another episode of Dirt Knap City, the podcast about interesting dead people.
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  SPEAKER_01: My name is Alex.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm here with my friend Kelly.
• 0:17
  SPEAKER_01: How's it going, Kelly?
• 0:19
  SPEAKER_04: Man, it's going great.
• 0:21
  SPEAKER_04: I I feel like I've had three energy drinks and a bowl of ice cream.
• 0:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's great.
• 0:26
  SPEAKER_04: Um, have we already had our hundredth episode?
• 0:30
  SPEAKER_04: Uh, that's a good question.
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  SPEAKER_04: It's right around this time.
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  SPEAKER_04: No, I think I think we still I think we still have like two to go.
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  SPEAKER_04: I think we're on 98 or something like that.
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_04: Hundred years.
• 0:39
  SPEAKER_01: I can't believe we've been around a hundred years.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_04: Us and Marconi back there doing this with uh it's so funny because so many of these people that have been on the show weren't actually dead.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_04: We were just kind of predicting what it would be like when they were dead.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_01: In fact, when we record this, most of these people are alive.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_04: A lot of times they're sitting right behind us because they want final rights to know that we're uh like like uh you know, whoever you're talking about's right there behind you, huh?
• 1:08
  SPEAKER_01: So our um wheelhouse that we always talk like to talk about.
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  SPEAKER_01: What's our lane?
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  SPEAKER_01: What do you what's what what's our lane?
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  SPEAKER_01: Or what we have a wheelhouse and we have a lane.
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  SPEAKER_01: So first, what's the wheelhouse?
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  SPEAKER_04: Well, the wheelhouse is interesting dead people.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: And the lane is people people you've heard of, but don't know much about.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, I would say the lane is people that you everyone's heard the name.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's the wheelhouse, and that you don't know much about.
• 1:36
  SPEAKER_01: And then I would say we have different lanes.
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_01: You and I have different lanes.
• 1:39
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_04: My my lane tends to be um a little more well, yeah, like like um bigger historical figures that did really big things, invented something, flew something, uh something like that, would you say?
• 1:56
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
• 1:57
  SPEAKER_01: Well, my lane flew something.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_01: I that let's see.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_04: We got I mean, like Neil Armstrong, the Wright brothers, uh I guess you did Amelia Earhart.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_04: Zeppelins, yeah, you're right.
• 2:08
  SPEAKER_04: Zeppelins, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_01: I do like the people that flew things, don't we?
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_04: I think we've covered everybody that's flown anything.
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  SPEAKER_04: Howard Hughes, um, flew the bird.
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  unknown: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 2:19
  SPEAKER_04: Well, what is yours then?
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_04: My lane.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, what's your lane?
• 2:23
  SPEAKER_01: I wanted you to try to describe my lane.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, your your lane is your lane is quirky.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_01: Quirky.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's the word I would.
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  SPEAKER_01: In fact, I had a conversation with Chat GPT the other day about quirky historical figures.
• 2:36
  SPEAKER_01: Nice.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh, it was trying to uh help me out a little with some quirky historical figures.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I think quirky is is a good way to put it.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_01: I'm when I think of interesting, I think of people that when I think of interesting, I think of, well, they did something, but they were also a little off.
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  SPEAKER_01: Just a little off.
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  SPEAKER_01: These people, the thing that makes them different from us sometimes is excellence, sometimes is ingenuity, sometimes is brilliance, but most of the time is that they they're just off, just a little off, and because of that, they were a little more colorful than the other people that were trying to do the same thing, and they got ahead.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like John DeLurian.
• 3:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there's different ways to get ahead in life.
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  SPEAKER_01: We've learned through this the ages that one of those ways is to drive an ambulance when you're 15 in a World War in World War I.
• 3:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: But most of the time it's about being a little different than the other folks, and a lot of times you're able to get away with stuff is because you're a little different.
• 3:46
  SPEAKER_01: This feels like an after-school special.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_01: Sure.
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  SPEAKER_01: Everybody's special.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, fly your flag, man.
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_01: Fly your freak flag, and today's is uh no different.
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  SPEAKER_01: I guarantee you've heard of this person, um, but I also probably can bet that unless you've gone down some kind of rabbit hole, you don't know a lot about this person.
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  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_01: That doesn't help.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um I'll tell you that uh it's a male.
• 4:17
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 4:18
  SPEAKER_01: I'll tell you that he was Russian.
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  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_01: I will tell you that he was known one of his nicknames was the Mad Monk.
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  SPEAKER_04: The Mad Monk, okay.
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  SPEAKER_01: He was polarizing.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_01: But the biggest clue I can give you is his name is synonymous for somebody who is unkillable.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, unkillable.
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  SPEAKER_04: John Wick.
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  SPEAKER_04: John With Wiskoski.
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  SPEAKER_04: Um unkillable.
• 4:54
  SPEAKER_04: Uh what what what time frame?
• 4:57
  SPEAKER_04: Give me a little time frame reference.
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  SPEAKER_01: Born in 1869 in the Russian Empire and died in 1916 in the Russian Empire.
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  SPEAKER_04: No, uh, you know, so Russian, synonymous with unkillable um immortal.
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  SPEAKER_01: You just can't kill this, you just can't kill this person.
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_04: I don't know, man.
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  SPEAKER_04: That that just doesn't ring a bell.
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  SPEAKER_04: Resputin.
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  SPEAKER_04: Uh so okay, so so I have heard that name, and I I've heard it really, I think the only real reference to it is a indigo girls song, right?
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_04: They mentioned Rest Butin in Closer to Fine, if you know that song.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_04: And I'm really embarrassed that I'm saying that I know this indigo girls song, but you know, uh, with a poster of Rust Butan and uh something, something, something.
• 5:56
  SPEAKER_04: Um I went to the mountain.
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  SPEAKER_04: You know the song.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, anyway, that's the only reference I know to Ras Buten.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_04: I've I've heard it, I think Lisa's mentioned it on The Simpsons before.
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_04: Um but I don't know, I didn't know that meant unkillable.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like in um when you ever you hear like this and and sometimes metaphorically, like wow, this guy.
• 6:19
  SPEAKER_01: Is it Ras or Russ?
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_01: R-U-S or R-A-S?
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  SPEAKER_01: R-A-S.
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  SPEAKER_01: And actually the correct pronunciation of his name is probably Rasputin.
• 6:29
  SPEAKER_01: Rasputin.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's the Russian name.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_01: His name is Gregory Rasputin.
• 6:35
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna call him Rasputin during this uh kind of the Texas version.
• 6:40
  SPEAKER_01: I'll call him Rasputin, but know that when I say Rasputin, Rasputin, then I'm really meaning Rasputin.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, okay.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_01: Well maybe we'll just uh dub that in each time.
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_01: In the disco version, uh the disco song that I will have you play at the end of this episode, um, by Bony M, um, when they say ra-ra rasputin, um it's a great song, and by that I mean it's uh earworm.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_01: It's not a great song, but we'll okay if you listen long enough, we'll we'll get you there um at the end.
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 7:19
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 7:20
  SPEAKER_01: Now uh to talk about Russia, um, you have to go back before the you know, we've had the we have Russia, what it is now.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_01: Before that, we had the Soviet Union, right?
• 7:31
  SPEAKER_01: And the Soviet Union came from the Bolshevik Bolshevik Revolution, right?
• 7:36
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah in like 1917.
• 7:39
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 7:41
  SPEAKER_01: Right before that, it ended like this Imperial Russia, where they had um, you know, a czar, right?
• 7:50
  SPEAKER_01: And um, and they had a family known as the um Romanovs.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_01: You may have heard of the Romanovs.
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  SPEAKER_01: That was the last ruling family of Russia, and the Romanovs, the last version of the Romanovs, was Tsar Nicholas II.
• 8:08
  SPEAKER_01: He was the Emperor of Russia, the last one.
• 8:12
  SPEAKER_01: His wife was the Tsarina, her name was Alexandra Federanova.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_01: She was German born.
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  SPEAKER_01: The people didn't really like her very much because she was German.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_01: She was very, very religious and very superstitious, and she's a big player in the story I'm gonna tell you today.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_01: They had a son named Alexei, and he was the only son they had, and as you know, in royal families, the son is the one you have to protect.
• 8:43
  SPEAKER_01: He was born with hemophilia, so he was always sick.
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_01: Oh no, and then you had they had four daughters, and the four daughters were known as the Grand Duchesses, and then you had Olga.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_04: I think I've heard of that too.
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_01: Really?
• 8:56
  SPEAKER_01: You had Olga, Tatiana, Maria, and Anastasia, who was kind of legendary.
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_01: Anastasia, people wrote about her.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_01: That whole family.
• 9:08
  SPEAKER_01: I'll give you the end first.
• 9:09
  SPEAKER_01: I'll tell you the the the spoiler at the end is that they were all executed as a family.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_01: The entire royal family was executed, which led then to the Bolshevik Bolsheviks learning and becoming, you know, and then um and and leading to what we know as as the Soviet Union now and all that.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_01: But there was a rumor that Anastasia didn't really get executed, that she survived, and there was all these rumors that she was around later on.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_01: But that's why you might have heard about Anastasia.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_01: The Rolling Stones sang about her and sympathy for the devil.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_01: They talk about Anastasia.
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  SPEAKER_01: But, anyways, that entire all seven of them were executed.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_01: That's how the story ends.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_01: The story I'm about to tell you, that's how it ends.
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_01: Start with the end.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_01: So now let's go back to kind of before that.
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  SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm gonna tell you about um uh Rasputin.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh, he was born a peasant.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, and we don't know a lot about his childhood, but he was born in Siberia.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_01: You know, Siberia, that's like uh cold place, cold place, just like northern Russia.
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  SPEAKER_01: He wasn't formally educated, illiterate.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_01: He didn't learn how to read until he was an adult, and maybe even then not that well.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um, when he was 17, he went to uh uh a town called Abalak and he met another peasant girl and they got married.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_01: They had seven kids.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_01: Now, he was always a little off, though.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_01: He had local people said he had the evil eye.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_01: Imagine this Russian peasant from Siberia that has an evil eye just walking around with the evil eye.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_04: Didn't you describe um Badahari as having the evil eye?
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_04: Or or the what did you say about her looks?
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_04: You said that she was um severe.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_04: She she had a severe, yeah.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe he looks severe.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_01: I think he was a little worse than that.
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_01: I think I've seen him described as disheveled.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_01: And um pictures of this guy smelling like a goat.
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was this is the eight late 1800s, yeah.
• 11:16
  SPEAKER_01: There are plenty of photos of it.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um people talked about the him though, healing animals or seeing visions.
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_01: He was just kind of a weirdo.
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_01: And when he was 28, he developed kind of this interest in religion.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_01: So he went on a pilgrimage, and some say he left town because he stole a horse and he was gonna get arrested.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_01: Others say that he saw a vision of the Virgin Mary, others say he followed a woman, uh, and that's kind of the gonna be the underlying theme in this guy that some people saw him as a deeply religious guy, some people saw him as a womanizer, some people saw him as a thief, some people saw him as a charlatan.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_01: He some people thought he was a saint, and some people thought he was a real bad guy.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_01: But it sounds like a song by the Steve Miller band.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_01: Sure, he was a joker and a smoker, yeah, and a midnight toker and a space cowboy, all of these things, and Maurice, yeah.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um well, anyways, he left his life with a little baby and another one on the way, just left his life, got up and went to a monastery, learned to read and write at the monastery, but he didn't like it at the monastery, came back home, and he looked a lot different.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_01: He had grown this big long beard, I mean hair, long hair, a beard, he was very disheveled, he had become a vegetarian, um, he was drinking a lot.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_01: Now, in Siberia, I'm guessing the baseline is already like drinking a lot, right?
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and long hair.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_01: Only thing to drink there is vodka.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_01: Vodka.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_01: And so he drank a lot for Siberia.
• 12:59
  SPEAKER_01: He prayed a lot, actually, probably Red Bull in vodka.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe, maybe.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_01: He he used to sing a lot, but he would just also stare at people and kind of freak them out.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_01: Just stare at people.
• 13:10
  SPEAKER_01: He was obsessed with prayer.
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  SPEAKER_01: So imagine this guy, he's just kind of this wandering guy that's walking around staring at people, praying.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_01: Spend the next few years just wandering.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_01: And they call that there's a word for that, it's called a stranic.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_01: And um, yeah, I think so.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_01: It means just kind of a person who wanders, and he might have even gone as far as Greece.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um, that's a long way from uh you know Siberia.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_01: By 1900, though, he had gained kind of a following, and people would kind of follow him around and pray with him on Sundays.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_01: They built a makeshift chapel.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_01: He built a makeshift chapel in his dad's root cellar, and they used to have secret prayer meetings there, but also maybe orgies.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_01: One or the other, or both.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_01: I but I mean his his brand of religion was a little different than most.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um, his brand of religion kind of involved you know, the way I'll describe his religion is very cultish.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_01: Like you follow me and I'll show you how it's gonna be.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_01: And by the way, let's have an orgy.
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  SPEAKER_01: And um invite a lot of women to these uh churches uh services, and they would all end with their clothes off.
• 14:28
  SPEAKER_01: And um, and he's a different brand of religion.
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_01: Now keep in mind, back then um the state religion was the Russian Orthodox Church, it was an officially uh Christian empire, Orthodox Christian, and the Russian Orthodox was also kind of this controlled by the state.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_01: Later on, when it became the Soviet Union, they kind of banned religion or outlawed official religion.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_04: Right, right.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_01: But at the time it was very Russian Orthodox.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_01: The church wasn't just religious, it was also where all the power from the country came from, you know, and the czar that I described, Tsar Nicholas, he was considered God's representative on earth.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_01: And back then a lot of kings were considered kind of you know heaven-sent, right?
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_01: The religion back then, the orthodox religion, yeah, it was very hierarchical, formal, conservative, incense, robes, chanting, you know, you can get the picture of what we're we're talking about here.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_01: And but for because it was so rigid and so kind of controlled by the state, for a lot of for just the ordinary Russian, the church was something that was kind of distant and political, because it was about the you know, that wasn't very spiritual at all.
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_01: So people like Rasputin, he would bring you that spiritual connection, the actual personal connection to God, and you know, and and would do things like chant and dance and and but but but but really emphasize a personal connection.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes this included sexual rights.
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes uh and and and the Orthodox Church considered people like this blasphemers, right?
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_01: And and they needed to go underground.
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_01: So that's why all this was kind of done in secret, plus the orgies, you know.
• 16:16
  SPEAKER_04: When you say rights, you don't mean rights like the rites of spring, R-I-T-E-S.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_01: R I T E S.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like part, yeah, just yeah, exactly.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_01: Just um yeah, rituals.
• 16:28
  SPEAKER_04: Not not sexual rights, like as in these are my no that's my right.
• 16:33
  SPEAKER_01: No, more like kinks.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, okay, okay.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so he left home, you know, this struggling, illiterate farmer, and he came back kind of a spiritual rock star with a stare, you know, that people would follow.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_01: And he he even the people that hated Rasputin said he was very charismatic.
• 16:56
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, he was this guy, he smelled bad, long hair, uh disheveled, but people couldn't get enough of this guy because he he rumors started to spread about this guy, and he was said to help resolve their spiritual crises.
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_01: There was also a lot of rumors that he was having a lot of sex with his female followers.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_01: So uh he found a couple of bishops that gave him a letter of recommendation and arranged for him to go to St.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_01: Petersburg, that's that was the capital, and that gave him credibility, it was basically a backstage pass to the royal the royalty, right?
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_01: He got this letter of recommendation, allowed him to go, and you know, uh it legitimized him.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_01: It also gave him access to a lot of women, though.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_01: And in St.
• 17:46
  SPEAKER_01: Petersburg, the rich women there were starting, they're bored, they're starting to dabble in mysticism, right?
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_01: They're starting to look at the kind of spiritual mysticism, and all of a sudden this guy shows up like a wild man, this exotic looking dude.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um and I I I've said a couple times that he smelled bad.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_01: Um people really emphasize how bad this guy smelled.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_01: Um there was um some people that said he smelled like a uh a goat.
• 18:21
  SPEAKER_01: Uh most people actually said he smelled like a goat.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_04: You know, I gotta think there's there's a lot worse smelling things in the world than a goat.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_04: That that you know that that seems to be a pretty regular um insult, but I I feel like you could you could probably come up with something even worse.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_04: Sure.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_04: Like, you know, to say to say of of smelly things, a goat is probably like a four, if a ten is the worst thing.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_01: I mean it is very it is very of na it's nature, right?
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_01: It's of nature okay, the goat smell, as opposed to like, yeah, like if somebody smelled like formaldehyde, uh it could be considered a worse smell because it's very antiseptic smelling, right?
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_01: Or to me, I would rather smell a goat than like truffle oil.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_01: I think truffle oil smells terrible.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, okay or um uh or you know, even I'm not a big fan of Indian food, you know.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_01: Um I'm not I don't like the smell of curry.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_01: If somebody smelled like a lot of it's made of goat, I'd probably cuddle up to the guy that smelled like the goat as opposed to the guy that smelled curry.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_04: What about a goat curry?
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_01: And that is a thing.
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_01: My neighbors make curry all the time, actually.
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_01: I would eat that.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_01: I would eat that.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_01: Well, our boy um shows up in St.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_01: Petersburg, and his name eventually made its way to the Tsarina Alexandra.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_01: Obviously, I told you she was the wife of of uh Nicholas II.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, she was the German, she's very not very popular, very shy, but very religious.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_01: She was also very desperate.
• 20:06
  SPEAKER_01: Remember, I told you she had a hemophiliac son, yeah, and she was obsessed with saving him to save the the royal line, you know, he was the next in line, and she thought that God sent Resputin to save her son.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_05: Okay.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_01: So she latched on and um and latched on hard and was and was his ardent defender.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_01: Now remember, I told you they also had four daughters, and that's probably not a good place for Res Putin to be around these these four women.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_04: So he he was there with the family, he was in with the the wife and the daughters and the hemophiliac son.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, and when and he glommed on.
• 20:46
  SPEAKER_01: Boy, did he glom on to them.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_01: He was always around.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_01: Now, when he first got there, those daughters were between the uh youngest Anastasia was five, the oldest was ten.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_01: By the time he was done there, they were 15 and to 20 years old.
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but he was constantly around these little girls.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_01: Probably shouldn't have been.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_01: He probably looked like the kind of guy you shouldn't have around your little girls.
• 21:10
  SPEAKER_01: The kind of people yeah, he looked like the kind of guy that you and smelled that way too.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, probably not just looked that way, but smelled that way.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_01: Kind of guy that you would make laws about having around little girls, actually.
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_01: And the kind of guy that Jeff Rotal would make songs about not having around your little girls, you know.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, there'd be a flute.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_01: He would write letters to these little and I'm I'm stressing these are like kids.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_01: Not cool.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um he would write letters to St.
• 21:39
  SPEAKER_01: Valentine did that.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he would write letters to them, and they would he would say, you know, call them my dear love.
• 21:44
  SPEAKER_01: But then he would also sometimes sign them your naughty resput.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_04: See, this sounds just like St.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_04: Valentine.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_01: This is your Valentine.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_01: This is the story of the ick.
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_01: This everything about this is icky.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_01: He had a rep.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_01: Reputation as a sex maniac.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_01: But you know, God bless Alexandra, man.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_01: She was all in on Rest Putin because she thought he was sent by God.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_01: He had a lot of latitude.
• 22:12
  SPEAKER_01: The czar, Nicholas the II, tolerated him, didn't like him.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_01: He found him crude, unsettling, embarrassing.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_01: Didn't believe that he was a holy man, but the czar was non-confrontational.
• 22:27
  SPEAKER_01: You know, and I don't know if that's the great way for a for a leader of a country to be non-confrontational.
• 22:36
  SPEAKER_01: Well, but who knows?
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_01: But he was kind of like, I don't want to really make any ways.
• 22:41
  SPEAKER_01: My wife likes him.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not really gonna do anything about so Rasputin started using his influence, especially since he kind of had this Patsy in charge.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_01: He would use his influence to start getting people fired or promoted in the government, and basically kind of took over the government in a lot of ways, had a lot of influence with the lady of the house.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_01: And since the man of the house was like, Okay, we'll do whatever you need to do, and then our boy just went to town, he just like started putting in his friends in charge of things.
• 23:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um, in fact, when Czar when the czar went to the front lines during World War I in 1915, basically the country was being run by Alexandra and Rusbutin.
• 23:27
  SPEAKER_04: Could you describe his smell as as musky?
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_01: I would think if if a hundred years later, the one of the main things that people are writing about you is how bad you smell.
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_01: And I think musky is an understatement, but I like I like where you're going with musky.
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_01: Like I I get you what you mean.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_01: I get it.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_05: Okay, okay.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_01: I get it.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_01: By putting your people in charge, kind of taken over from the uh mousey people and uh running the government.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_01: I would say it was a little musky.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_01: Um, people also accuse them of having an affair, him and Alexandra.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_01: Don't know if this ever happened, but you know, he was all about the deed.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_01: He was all about that as a spiritual act.
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_01: He preached, he used to preach that physical contact purified him.
• 24:22
  SPEAKER_01: He would have a lot of drunken revels between uh him and a lot of women.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_01: But here he was it was based in religion.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_01: Now, I don't know if he really believed this, but here was the pitch is that in order to be forgiven, the only way you can be forgiven by God, or the only way you can get close to God.
• 24:40
  SPEAKER_01: Let me start this over.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_01: Here was Rest Button's pitch.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_01: The only way you can get close to God is through forgiveness.
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_01: And you can't be forgiven unless you've sinned.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_01: So true repentance can only come by experiencing sin.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_01: And the best kind of sin is the fleshy kind of sin.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_01: So I mean drinking excessively.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_01: First, you drink a lot of champagne and vodka.
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_01: Step one, drink a lot of champagne and vodka.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_01: Step two, lots of sex and orgies.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_01: Then step three, get on your knees and beg for forgiveness.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_01: So it wasn't really a party lifestyle, it was more of like this mystical cycle of sin where you'd sleep with a bunch of women and lead them in prayer and ask for forgiveness and cry about what have I done, what have I done, rinse and repeat every day.
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_04: And then you repeat the next day.
• 25:41
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, I was gonna ask if it happened over and over every day.
• 25:45
  SPEAKER_01: And I mean, you you gotta maintain the the lifestyle, and it was very cult, cultish, cult leader energy, right?
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_01: He could do whatever he wanted and then call it holy, you know.
• 25:58
  SPEAKER_01: Well, in the meantime, wow, Russia was falling apart.
• 26:01
  SPEAKER_01: They were in the middle of World War I, the economy was collapsing, people were angry, revolution was simmering, right?
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_01: The Bolsheviks um uh were were coming.
• 26:13
  SPEAKER_01: The czar, I told you, went to the front lines.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um, she was completely the czarina, was completely under resputant's spell, maybe physically, definitely spiritually, definitely emotionally.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_01: And she believed that he was sent by God to see what the truth that others couldn't see.
• 26:33
  SPEAKER_01: And um in meanwhile, he's he's you know having all these orgies and putting his buddies in in charge.
• 26:41
  SPEAKER_01: Um, usually these people were totally unqualified.
• 26:45
  SPEAKER_01: There's that musky scent again.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um he was firing and replacing people at lightning speed based on his whims of the day.
• 26:56
  SPEAKER_01: It was total chaos.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um, the public was horrified.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_01: The royals were the nobility, like the you know, so the nobility would be the family of the royal family, like the cousins and the all those people.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_01: Like like Congress.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_01: They believed um there was a mad mystic just control uh they just like silently took over.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_01: Political cartoons back then would show him as a puppet master with Alexandra on the strings and Russia crumbling around him.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, I mean it's this country is going to to hell in a handbasket, and it's being run by a an illiterate peasant from Siberia with greasy hair, smelling like a goat, and a god complex, you know?
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 27:46
  SPEAKER_01: So in 1914, a peasant woman tried to assassinate him by stabbing him.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_01: She came up to him, she was a former follower of a monk who was like one of his enemies.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_01: Now, this woman was crazy in herself, she was missing a nose.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_01: So you imagine this old Russian peasant lady.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_01: I picture like if you've ever seen that um that optical illusion where it's like a beautiful woman, and then if you turn like Anna and Right right, an old hag.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_01: An old hag.
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_01: I picture the old hag, or like the the witch from uh from uh sleeping beauty, you know, uh just like this this old Russian witch who didn't have a nose, gnarled.
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_01: She walked up to him, stabbed him, and said, I have killed the antichrist.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_01: The blade went right into his gut, and his intestines were literally hanging out.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_01: Well, he survived and he saw visions of the Virgin Mary, and the fact that he survived even made him bigger, and even made his legend grow even bigger than that, and said, Well, he must have been protected by God.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_01: He must have been protected, he must have been sent to us.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_01: The fact that he was tried to be assassinated and he lived through it must make him the true one, and we should all listen to him.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_01: Not everybody thought that way, but definitely his followers were into that for sure.
• 29:13
  SPEAKER_04: He stood up and shaked his shall his fist up, and very famous sketch of that where he Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
• 29:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you a lot of you know it's a good thing none of this is anything close to anything is happening these days.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, glad it all happened a long time ago.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_01: So, meanwhile, whenever he's around Alexei, that's the little kid with the hemophilia, right?
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_01: The heir to the throne.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um, every time he's around, Alexei's fine.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_01: Whenever he's not around, Alexei's like, oh, I'm dying.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_01: I've got hemophilia.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_01: Uh they were sure this was divine intervention.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_01: One time he was at death's door.
• 29:52
  SPEAKER_01: They had given him last rites, and they thought he was about to die.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_01: They got a telegram from Resputin.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_01: He wasn't around, they got a telegram from him, and by the next morning, Alexei was fine.
• 30:03
  SPEAKER_01: They thought, oh my gosh, just him sending a telegram, like fixed him.
• 30:07
  SPEAKER_01: It's crazy.
• 30:08
  SPEAKER_01: So, I mean, they were all on board.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_01: They thought that this guy was, you know, there to he was he was really doing a number on them.
• 30:15
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know, I can't explain any of that stuff.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_01: Well, now um let me tell you about how Rasputin died.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I found the part about how bad he smelled.
• 30:28
  SPEAKER_01: Let me let me tell you this.
• 30:30
  SPEAKER_01: So they said he rarely bathed.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_01: He had a pungent body odor, wore filthy robes, he had the smell of a goat and the eyes of a devil.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_01: That's how they described him.
• 30:42
  SPEAKER_01: And his eyes were so hypnotic that it was said he could entrance people by just looking at them.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_01: He smelled like a goat who had been buried and resurrected.
• 30:54
  SPEAKER_04: Even the description a normal goat would be bad, but buried and then resurrected.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, even the description has like a religious overtones to it.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_01: Like when you're describing how bad he smells, even then.
• 31:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um he would drink a lot of champagne.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_01: His thing was he would drink champagne of vodka all night, and he would have a goal to try to seduce someone's wife before breakfast.
• 31:24
  SPEAKER_01: Wow, you wouldn't want this guy at a conference.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_01: Back when he was, I've seen I've seen the uh contemporary versions of him at plenty of conferences, though.
• 31:34
  SPEAKER_01: And locals sometimes would just gather around to watch him party.
• 31:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so he had this, he wrote a letter to the czar one time, and in the letter, uh think think about this.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_01: The czar is tolerating him.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_01: He's this creepy, smelly guy, who's weird looking, he's always staring at people, and he writes this letter to him, and he says, If I am killed by common men, you have nothing to fear, but if I am killed by nobles, your family will be dead within two years.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm about to tell you that he was killed by nobles, and 15 months later, the entire Romanov family was executed.
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_01: So just like our man Nostradamus back in the day, he was a prophetic.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_01: So here's how did he know two years?
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_01: Isn't that crazy?
• 32:27
  SPEAKER_01: That's really weird.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_01: I know, yeah.
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_01: 15 months.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_01: So I'll tell you about how he was finally killed.
• 32:34
  SPEAKER_01: Dirtnap City, a lot of times, isn't about the death, but when you're talking about Rasputin, that's pretty much I talk about how he's synonymous with being unkillable.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_01: It's pretty much you gotta figure out how they try.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_01: So the people were the nobles, and this is the family of the royal family, right?
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_01: They're like, this is enough.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_01: This guy's killing our country, he's a kook, smells bad.
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, they probably could have overlooked the smell, right?
• 33:00
  SPEAKER_01: If that if he was a nice guy, yeah, yeah.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_01: But he was just he was entrancing all the women, creeping out with the with the little girls.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, he was a bad dude, right?
• 33:13
  SPEAKER_01: And so I'll give you some of the characters here.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_01: Prince Felix was married to the Tsar's niece, and um Rasputin had him fired.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_01: Like, so he was definitely on his list, right?
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um, there was the Tsar's cousin, the Grand Duke Dmitry Pavlovich.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then Vladimir Pireskevich was the right wing kind of anti-Rasputin guy, and then they had a doctor and a military officer.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_01: That's the crew that like decided we gotta we gotta kill this guy.
• 33:46
  SPEAKER_01: They thought that he was ruining the empire, he was manipulating the tsarina, and they said, Hey, Rasputin, you want to come over for a party?
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_01: Now, he's probably never one to say no to a party, so he came over for the party.
• 34:02
  SPEAKER_01: It was December 29th, 1916, at Felix's palace, and around midnight, he came over and they led him to the basement where they had wine, appetizers.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_01: What kind of appetizers do you think they had back then?
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, this is a Russian Russian royalty.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, goat, you think?
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_01: Goat and cheese.
• 34:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, probably caviar is what I was gonna say.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe some maybe some borsch.
• 34:28
  SPEAKER_01: I was gonna say but that's more poor people's stuff.
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_01: This is royalty.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_01: I'm thinking caviar, champagne.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_01: They had American jazz playing on the radio, like this was a nice little party, and then in walks the guy with the dirty clothes in the you know, the Felix's Palace.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_01: The guy that never showers.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_01: Here's the thing tonight at Felix's Palace.
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_01: Here's the thing.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_01: Everything was laced with cyanide.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, even the Borsch.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_01: Everything, everything they had was laced with cyanide.
• 34:58
  SPEAKER_01: So they're like, come on to our party, come downstairs.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_01: They had the music on, and they wait.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_01: They just wait for this fool to eat all the cyanide.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_01: Well, he spends all night eating and drinking, talking, bullshitting around with them, doesn't even get sick.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_01: Not only did he not die, doesn't even get sick.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_01: He ate every bit of their food, drank all their stuff, and just talked their ears off.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_01: And you know he was probably annoying as hell to them.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_01: Talked for hours.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_01: So Felix runs upstairs to the other guys who are waiting up there.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_01: He's not dying.
• 35:36
  SPEAKER_01: What do we do?
• 35:38
  SPEAKER_01: So they they gather around and they go, Well, it's time for the gun.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_01: Like, let's not even mess around.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_01: We've given him all the cyanide, he hasn't died.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_01: Let's shoot him.
• 35:49
  SPEAKER_01: So Felix comes down to the basement, the cellar, and he shoots Rest Butin in the chest.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_01: He collapses, he looks dead.
• 36:01
  SPEAKER_01: Come on down, everybody.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_01: I killed him.
• 36:03
  SPEAKER_01: They all come down and they're like, All right, what are we gonna do with the body?
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um actually, I think he went upstairs and they said, What are we gonna do with the body?
• 36:13
  SPEAKER_01: And they they have this plan and they're like, Well, I don't know, let's are we gonna tie him up?
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_01: How how many how many robes does he have?
• 36:20
  SPEAKER_01: Felix says, Hold on, I'll check and see what you what we're dealing with.
• 36:24
  SPEAKER_01: He goes upstairs to check.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_01: Resputin opens his eyes, he gets up and he starts walking around the cellar.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_01: He's gonna have been shot in the chest after a night of cyanide.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_01: Cyanide.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_01: He stumbles into the courtyard, tries to escape, tries to run away.
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_01: Felix shoots him twice more, once in the back and once in the head.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_01: He falls down.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_01: Just to make sure he's dead, they beat the shit out of him, they wrap him up in a carpet, they drive him out to the frozen river, they cut a hole in the ice, and they dump him in the frozen river.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_04: Wow.
• 37:03
  SPEAKER_01: Do you know that when somebody that spring was gonna have a big surprise?
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_01: Do you know that when they found him and they did the autopsy on him, they found water in his lungs.
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_01: Now, water in his lungs to a medical examiner means he was still breathing.
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_01: He was still alive when he hit the water, and his arms were frozen in an upward position, like he was trying to claw his way back through the hole in the ice, and they they ruled that he had died by drowning after all that.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_01: So let's let's go through this again.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_01: He had the cyanide, he had the a gunshot to the chest, he had another gunshot to the back, he had another gunshot to the head, he had them beat him up, they wrapped him in the carpet, they threw him in the car, they put him in the icy water, and he died by drowning.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_04: And he had been stabbed in the gut before that.
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's right.
• 38:00
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that was three years before, two years before.
• 38:02
  SPEAKER_01: Whereas it's a good thing.
• 38:03
  SPEAKER_01: Sure, it's sure, but still that counts.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_01: That counts.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_01: Well, the dynasty collapsed a few months later.
• 38:12
  SPEAKER_01: Alexander was devastated.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_01: She never she never had energy any energy to do anything.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_01: The it which made them vulnerable.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_01: It made Russia vulnerable for the revolution.
• 38:23
  SPEAKER_01: The royal family was in shadow.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_01: She didn't even want to go on.
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_01: Felix left Russia, wrote a story about it, turned it into a thriller, like pretend fiction, kind of like OJ's If I Did It, you know?
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_01: It was like it was like the story of how Rasputin died, a fictional story, but he gave the actual story.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_01: He turned it into a thriller and got like lots of money as being like this this uh thriller writer.
• 38:54
  SPEAKER_01: Um and so then Russia that was why, and then so uh the revolution happened, the entire family was executed 15 months later, every one of them bullet to the head, and so all of our characters died except for Phoenix.
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_01: Anastasia.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_01: Uh well, Anastasia.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_01: They and there was this whole thing where Anastasia, where people thought that uh she might have lived through it.
• 39:21
  SPEAKER_01: They made a move, uh, like a cartoon movie about her in the 90s called Anastasia, and in that movie, there's like a um Resputin's there, and she battles Resputin, and he's got like all like this old ogre-looking guy.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 39:36
  SPEAKER_01: They make you know that what he was like one of the original cult leaders, right?
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_01: Like people like Jim Jones and Charles Manson and David Caresh kind of have a lot of that Resputin in them, but the thing that makes that so crazy is that he would not go down, like he just would not die.
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_01: Um now I I always thought prior to learning a little more about this, I didn't know all that happened in one night.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_01: I thought that there were several attempts on Res Butin and nobody could quite like there's a lot of missed assassinations or something.
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't know that this all happened.
• 40:13
  SPEAKER_01: Over weeks or years.
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I thought it happened over years that there was like seven assassination attempts on his life.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_01: No, it was just like the one that failed where his guts were hanging out, and then this crazy night where like no matter what they did to this guy, I don't know.
• 40:30
  SPEAKER_01: I wonder if medical examiners have like torn this apart and actually said, No, what do you think happened?
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_01: Like if I was a if I was a medical doctor or a medical examiner, I think it would be fascinating to find out why did the side not kill him?
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_01: Why did the gun shot did it just did he get lucky and like every one of those shots just kind of missed a vital organ?
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_01: And and and how after all of that, I think it would have been badass if he would have actually made his way out through the hole.
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe if the river hadn't been frozen, he could have made it, you know, because if he had to climb through a hole, but um but there's a lot of comparisons between him and those cult leaders, or L.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_01: Ron Hubbard, or even some people compare the political part to Donald Trump, just how he just would not go away, and how um he had his followers and he had his detractors, but metaphorically speaking, he would not die.
• 41:33
  SPEAKER_01: Um and even literally speaking, because there was an assassination attempt on him, too.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_01: But very interesting character from the past that, like I say, you may have heard the the word Rasputin, the name Rasputin.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and um uh but he was uh he was definitely a character and would fit right in with some of our uh one of some of his neighbors at Nurtnep City.
• 41:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I don't think he's a hero, I don't think he's a villain, I think he's she's just a a character.
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, he was ultimately what a lot of people blame as the the reason for the downfall of the Imperial Russia, but like I said, from Putin's side of things, that might not have been a bad thing.
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_01: Um, from Alexander's perspective, you can't blame her for thinking that for being on his side.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, her job was to protect the air, and all she knew is that every time this fool was around, he was her son was fine, and he was coming around saying all this mumbo jumbo.
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if they had an affair or not, but her job was to protect the air, and it seemed every time this guy was around, he was probably a really bad guy, he was probably a charlatan and probably had the her wrapped around his finger, and the entire country was, you know, in his sweaty little smelly hands.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_01: Um but I mean this little peasant guy, this illiterate peasant guy took down the whole imperial Russia that for thousands of years had been like this powerhouse.
• 43:11
  SPEAKER_01: It's pretty crazy.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, respect.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_01: I suppose.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_01: I suppose you gotta put respect on his name, Russ Putin.
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_04: If you if you if you can do that looking like that and smelling like that, then uh you got some kind of must have the gift of gab.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_01: Definitely, you know, he kind of takes Dale Carnegie's all of Derek Dale Carnegie's uh ideas and kind of turns them on their head, doesn't it?
• 43:38
  SPEAKER_01: He does everything the opposite of what Dale Carnegie says.
• 43:40
  SPEAKER_04: Right, right.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_01: And uh and we gotta keep him away from Johnny Appleseed also in the uh in Dirt Knap City.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_01: We can't him and Dale like are on a different street, I suppose.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_01: And and Mr.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_01: Rogers.
• 43:52
  SPEAKER_01: There's certainly some uh different subdivisions in Dirt Knap City.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_01: I think we gotta put Mr.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_01: Rogers, Dale Carnegie.
• 44:49
  SPEAKER_03: He was big and strong in his eyes a famous go.
• 44:53
  SPEAKER_03: Want people look at him with terror and the fear.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_03: But to my scope cheeks, he was such a lovely deal.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_03: He could preach the Bible like a preacher.
• 45:09
  SPEAKER_03: But he also was the kind of teacher.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_03: Ra, rah, Rashpoti, the lover of the Russian queen.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_03: There was a cat that really was gone.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_03: Ra-ra, Rashputi, the Russia's greatest love machine.
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_03: It was a shame how he carried on the Russian land and never mind to stop.
• 45:52
  SPEAKER_03: But the cause I chock, he that's really wonderful.
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_03: All affairs of state, he was the main to please.
• 46:00
  SPEAKER_03: But he was real brave when he had a girl's knee.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_03: For the queen, he was no real dealer.
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_03: No, she heard the things he done.
• 46:11
  SPEAKER_03: She believed he was a humbling dealer.
• 46:15
  SPEAKER_03: No more son.
• 46:23
  SPEAKER_03: There was a cat that really was gone.
• 46:37
  SPEAKER_00: But when his drinking and lusting and his hunger for power became known to more and more people, the demands to do something about this outrageous man became louder and louder.
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_03: But the lady's back, don't you try to do it being though this race poutine had lots of hate and chunks?
• 47:25
  SPEAKER_03: So he was eight rooms, they just fell into his arms.
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_03: And he really came.
• 47:48
  SPEAKER_03: They put some poison into his mind.
• 47:56
  SPEAKER_03: He drank it all and set up, rush, put in lover of the Russian creed.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_03: They didn't quit, they wanted his head.
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_03: And so they shot him till he was dead.