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Coyote Creek Christmas · Girls Gone Hallmark | Hallmark Movie Reviews

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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, Welcome to Girls Gone Hallmark, a bonus episode
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Speaker 1: of Long Story Short the podcast. I'm Megan, I'm Wendy,
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Speaker 1: and today we are discussing Coyote Creek Christmas from Hallmarks
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Speaker 1: Countdown to Christmas series. We are in week two, a
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Speaker 1: little bit of a departure from week one for me.
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Speaker 1: We'll get into that before we talk about our thoughts
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Speaker 1: on this movie. A reminder that our website, Megan and
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Speaker 1: Wendy dot com is a great source of holiday content
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Speaker 1: as well as all of our show notes from every episode,
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Speaker 1: So things we mentioned on this episode you can find
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Speaker 1: in our show notes. Wendy writes those every single week
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Speaker 2: We have a lot of stuff to talk about before
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Speaker 2: we even get into this movie. We do, I mean
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Speaker 2: the Hallmark twitterverse, Instagram, DMS. It's been a hotbed of
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Speaker 2: things going on the last couple of days. Yeah, let's
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Speaker 2: we've talked about GHAK several times on the podcast.
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Speaker 1: Did anybody say that out loud? Remember GHAK was like
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Speaker 1: slime back in the nineties. Oh now, yeah, I do
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Speaker 1: kind of remember that. I do. Yes, yes, yes, that
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Speaker 1: sounds very familiar. Okay, I just think sometimes you should.
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Speaker 1: You should say your brand name's out loud several times
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Speaker 1: before going public with them. That's all I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: Okay, it's great American what country, Great American.
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Speaker 1: Country, family, it's Ghak family.
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Speaker 2: We talked about GHAK and how the current president was
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Speaker 2: once the Hallmark president. Correct, and now he's over there
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Speaker 2: pushing quote unquote family.
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Speaker 1: Values, American values and family friendly content. There it is.
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Speaker 2: I couldn't remember. Thank you for clearing that up for me.
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Speaker 1: So kind of things are like bubbling. I would say, like,
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Speaker 1: there's going to be a moment where this thing totally explodes. Right, Well,
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Speaker 1: I am frustrated because I'm angry at their premise. Right,
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Speaker 1: I'm angry at them basically, And there has been in
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Speaker 1: response to channels like Hallmark and Lifetime attempting to be
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Speaker 1: slightly more progressive in their very already family friendly content.
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Speaker 1: There is pushback from brands like GHAK who think that
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Speaker 1: they're headed in the wrong direction. And I don't know
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Speaker 1: if you saw. I've been saving this for the podcast,
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Speaker 1: but there is a creation of a website where they're
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Speaker 1: listing the actually family friendly movies. I saw it. I
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Speaker 1: saw it, and to be very clear, family friendly in
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Speaker 1: their context means there's no LGBTQ content. There's not going
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Speaker 1: to be a same sex couple. And I have not
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Speaker 1: looked very deeply because I don't want to explode and rage.
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Speaker 1: Hallmark movies are deeply family friendly. There's no violence, there's
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Speaker 1: no swearing, there's no gratuitous sexual content. They don't even
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Speaker 1: hold hands half the time. The kisses last maybe a
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Speaker 1: second and a half. I would have no problem watching
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Speaker 1: these movies with any child of mine or child that
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Speaker 1: I know. They are family friendly. Right. I'm very angry
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Speaker 1: when people and brands posit same sex couples as non
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Speaker 1: family friendly, because you've now branded all of these humans
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Speaker 1: and individuals as unsafe, and you're telling all of these
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Speaker 1: people children adults, teenagers that something about you is unsafe
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Speaker 1: to me and my family, and I find it highly
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Speaker 1: dangerous and bigoted, and I'm angry about it.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, And we see it in these reviews
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Speaker 2: right totally.
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Speaker 1: I mean.
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Speaker 2: This week in particular on IMDb, the number of terrible reviews,
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Speaker 2: not because of the movie, but because of the cast
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Speaker 2: and the story in particular a same sex couple. You know,
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Speaker 2: they're just like, this is terrible, this is trash. Hallmark's
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Speaker 2: trying to be too woke, which I can't stand when
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Speaker 2: people use woke like that, or use woke in general.
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Speaker 1: Uh.
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Speaker 2: It just it makes me so mad, and I want
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Speaker 2: to be like that responder on IMDb, like, stop watching it. Then,
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Speaker 2: you know, if it doesn't fit your box a family friendly,
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Speaker 2: stop watching it. There's other there's other content out there
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Speaker 2: that you can go to. Just stop it, Like it
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Speaker 2: makes me so angry.
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Speaker 1: So when you say, right, the gag situation is going
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Speaker 1: to explode, the thing that gives me pause is there's
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Speaker 1: an audience for them. They have an audience who's digging
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Speaker 1: in very deeply into what they're offering, and so I'm
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Speaker 1: very curious to see what direction that goes I'm curious
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Speaker 1: to see if they have enough of an eye needst
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Speaker 1: that is hateful to sustain them, or if there's enough
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Speaker 1: pushback it doesn't work out for them. I sadly have
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Speaker 1: a feeling that it will be sustainable for them. We've
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Speaker 1: seen some very big Hallmark names signed contracts. We discussed
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Speaker 1: on our Patron episode last week. Danica mckeller has signed
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Speaker 1: to create movies for GAK. Recently on Twitter. So far,
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Speaker 1: the only Hallmark actor I've said seen speak out, Paul Campbell,
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Speaker 1: has made a statement. His statement says, I, like everyone else,
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Speaker 1: will be keeping a close eye on the GAK content
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Speaker 1: roll out. If there's a noticeable lack of meaningful inclusion
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Speaker 1: the no, I will not be working for that company.
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Speaker 1: And he goes on to say that he'll make his
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Speaker 1: opinion loudly. So far, he's the only person to make
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Speaker 1: that statement, and several other actors are saying, well, we're
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Speaker 1: not working with an isn't that enough? And to that,
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Speaker 1: I say it's not enough. It's a brand new network.
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Speaker 1: How do we know if you're not working with them
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Speaker 1: because the opportunity hasn't presented itself, or because you firmly
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Speaker 1: stand against what they believe in. We don't know that,
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Speaker 1: and the only way for us to know that at
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Speaker 1: this point is for you to actually say something. Mm hmmm. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I mean they're in a really tough position, right, but
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Speaker 2: take a stand.
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Speaker 1: I understand not wanting to bite the hand that feeds you, right,
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Speaker 1: but do you want to be fed by a bigot
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Speaker 1: a hand? Yeah? Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I want to shout out a fellow podcaster, Hallmark podcaster.
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Speaker 2: Her name is Camille. She is Hallmark Heartbeats podcast. She
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Speaker 2: is always talking about this is like a constant conversation
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Speaker 2: on her Instagram and on Twitter, like she is calling
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Speaker 2: out like actors and asking like, hey, what are you
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Speaker 2: doing here? What's your decision? And I'm just glad that
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Speaker 2: somebody is like talking about it like regularly. I just
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Speaker 2: I like that she is asking the hard questions.
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Speaker 1: I agree, this is just something I think we're going
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Speaker 1: to have to continue to keep an eye on, and
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Speaker 1: I hope people will continue talking about it. But I
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Speaker 1: do think this is a big turning point in the
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Speaker 1: holiday movie world. And I have seen a lot of
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Speaker 1: people who are unhappy with the direction of Ghak family,
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Speaker 1: and unfortunately there will always be that audience for them.
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Speaker 1: So I don't think they care so much about the
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Speaker 1: naysayers as long as there's people that are willing to
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Speaker 1: buy what they're selling.
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Speaker 2: Right exactly, sharp left turn. I have a question for you. Okay,
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Speaker 2: did you notice anything different about this weekend's movies?
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Speaker 1: Oh, I know what you're talking about. We neglected to
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Speaker 1: mention this last week, even though I had it in
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Speaker 1: my notes. The ding is gone. Yes, it is gone
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Speaker 1: this weekend. Anybody who doesn't know what we're talking about.
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Speaker 1: On Hallmark's New Movies, they had this obnoxious ding sound
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Speaker 1: that accompanied an image that said all new, and it
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Speaker 1: was highly annoying. It was I swear I.
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Speaker 2: Thought it was my phone going off every single time,
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Speaker 2: like dinging out.
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Speaker 1: It was the same sound, and it happened several times
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Speaker 1: in each movie, and Twitter was a buzz. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well I noticed right off the bat that they
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Speaker 2: had replaced a cute little candy cane in the shape
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Speaker 2: of a heart image with just the regular countdown the
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Speaker 2: Christmas image and the whole little thing alert was gone.
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Speaker 1: And I said, I was Mandy, Yes, I don't mind
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Speaker 1: the image, keep the image, I just get rid of
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Speaker 1: the noise. Yeah, I don't need another distraction, like I'm
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Speaker 1: trying to watch the movie. Don't make a sound that
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Speaker 1: sounds like my phone that I'm gonna stop watching your
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Speaker 1: movie and look at my phone. You know exactly exactly
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Speaker 1: Dupid whose idea was that? Dummies? Well, it did not
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Speaker 1: work out for them. People were very annoyed, although it
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Speaker 1: did get people talking. I will say people were talking
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Speaker 1: about it all weekend, so I'm glad to see it
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Speaker 1: gone me too.
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Speaker 2: All right, are you ready to talk about Coyote Creek Christmas?
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Speaker 1: I am. Do you have a synopsis? I do?
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Speaker 2: While throwing a Christmas around the World party at her
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Speaker 2: family's inn, an event planner discovers Christmas magic with a
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Speaker 2: charming father son Dubo, whose presence brings about tension and joy,
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Speaker 2: starring Janelle Parish and Ryan Pavey.
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Speaker 1: Let's hop into news and notes. Okay, you pointed out
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Speaker 1: something to me, Yes, I did.
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Speaker 2: I swear the interior of the inn is the same
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Speaker 2: interior used in the last Janelle Parish movie called right
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Speaker 2: in front of Me. I can't find anything to confirm it,
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Speaker 2: but I swear it's the same. Like it's not a
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Speaker 2: set I remember, it's like actual, like an actual location.
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Speaker 1: I've mentioned before that I'm highly unobservant, so I'm not
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Speaker 1: sure that I would have noticed that. But you mentioned
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Speaker 1: it prior to me watching this movie, and when I
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Speaker 1: started watching, I would agree, especially that open kitchen area. Yes,
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Speaker 1: thank you. That much really felt familiar to me, So
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Speaker 1: I am dying to know if that's the case. Also,
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Speaker 1: I had this later on, But since we're discussing it,
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Speaker 1: did you think that when in the very beginning of
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Speaker 1: the movie, when the brothers are discussing the inn and
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Speaker 1: they show the image of the front, did it not
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Speaker 1: look like the image that they used in the Santa steakout. Yes,
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Speaker 1: if it's a mysterious chalet that they're next door neighbor owned.
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Speaker 2: I didn't realize it now, but now that you pointed out, yes,
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Speaker 2: I did think it would look like exactly the same picture.
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Speaker 2: If you recall when we reviewed right in front of me,
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Speaker 2: we had talked on the podcast about how they shot
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Speaker 2: almost every scene within the interior of that location, and
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Speaker 2: it was either like the director I think it was
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Speaker 2: the director who had messaged us and said, yes, they
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Speaker 2: had like a major snowstorm or something like that, so
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Speaker 2: they couldn't shoot any outside scenes. Right, the directors are
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Speaker 2: different on these movies, but I just wish somewhere, somewhere
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Speaker 2: could confirm someone could confirm from with me that this
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Speaker 2: is the same location.
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Speaker 1: Well, and they did talk about they had a fire
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Speaker 1: pit scene in that last movie that didn't make it
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Speaker 1: because of the weather, and we saw fire pits in
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Speaker 1: this movie. I believe it. I believe it. We do
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Speaker 1: not have confirmation, but I believe it. Speaking of filming, sorry,
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Speaker 1: this movie took fifteen days to film, which I think
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Speaker 1: is pretty standard. But it always blows my mind that
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Speaker 1: they can do that in two weeks. Yeah, in August
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Speaker 1: and September, so it was probably warm right in Vancouver.
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Speaker 1: I'm guessing I'm going to add into news and notes here.
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Speaker 1: We need to talk about Cameron Bancroft again. Cameron Bancroft
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Speaker 1: played Rick Parker Page's dad in this movie, and for
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Speaker 1: a hot minute I was like, how is this guy
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Speaker 1: old enough to play Page's dad? Well, I did some looking.
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Speaker 1: Cameron Bancroft, who played Joe Bradley on Beverly Hills nine
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Speaker 1: O two one zero, is fifty four years old in
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Speaker 1: real life and totally believable as her dad.
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Speaker 2: Yes, she's thirty three, so yeah, age wise, he could
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Speaker 2: have had a child at twenty one. Sure, okay, fine,
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Speaker 2: but this dude's character was acting like he was ready
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Speaker 2: for a spot at an assisted living facility. He was
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Speaker 2: acting like he was eighty five years old ready to retire.
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Speaker 2: I mean, what's retirement age in California?
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Speaker 1: Fifty five? Oh? I don't know. Is there a retirement age?
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I thought there was. He was ready to retire from
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Speaker 2: a coyote creek, in which fine, but like he's like,
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Speaker 2: we're gonna sail off into the sunset or whatever.
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Speaker 1: I was like, what the fuck? Like he was Joe.
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Speaker 2: Bradley on Beverly Hills nine of Too and oh, and
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Speaker 2: my husband and I had this full conversation about Okay, fine,
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Speaker 2: Beverly Hills was out thirty years ago, say ish right,
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Speaker 2: He at the time was playing a college student. He
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Speaker 2: could have been in his mid twenties. Fine, but he's
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Speaker 2: just got this full head of gray hair that makes
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Speaker 2: him look so much older because his face does not
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Speaker 2: look old. I personally feel that he should be playing
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Speaker 2: younger roles.
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Speaker 1: I think his hair, his hair ages him one hundred percent,
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Speaker 1: and I think he doesn't color it because then he
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Speaker 1: gets these older roles and he slides right in because
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Speaker 1: he's the younger, old dude.
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Speaker 2: I'm just having a crisis of conflict, hair like.
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Speaker 1: I can't. I don't want to believe that I am
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Speaker 1: getting that old. I don't want to watch people who
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Speaker 1: you know, was a college student on my TV, which
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Speaker 1: feels like five years ago, playing an old man. I can't.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm struggling. Well, speaking of associating people
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Speaker 1: with other roles they've been in. Janelle Parrish, who as
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Speaker 1: we mentioned, was in Right in front of Me, a
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Speaker 1: Hallmark movie, also played Margot in all three of the
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Speaker 1: To All the Boys I've Loved before. College student right,
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Speaker 1: a college student, Yes, And I very much did not
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Speaker 1: like her character in those movies. Loved the books. Margo's
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Speaker 1: not as of the most likable person in the books either,
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Speaker 1: but I didn't enjoy her in the movies. So well,
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Speaker 1: we'll get to first impressions, but that I find that
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Speaker 1: distracting watching her.
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Speaker 2: Well, she played a high school student on Pretty Little Liars,
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Speaker 2: which was not that long ago either. I can't remember
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Speaker 2: her character name, but she was creepy af She was
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Speaker 2: really good in that show. Oh well, let's talk about actors.
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Speaker 1: We did like Okay, you're not going to agree with me,
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Speaker 1: but the little boy who plays Noah, his name is
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Speaker 1: Aswel Dolman, and this was his first Hallmark movie and
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Speaker 1: since this movie, he's filmed three Hallmark movies. Ah god,
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Speaker 1: uh huh. Wendy's not a big fan of the children
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Speaker 1: in these movies typically. Yeah, I'll get to that. Okay, Well,
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Speaker 1: I found him charming and I'm glad that he's had
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Speaker 1: some success. Sweet little Asriel. What else did you like
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Speaker 1: about this movie? We're not there yet. We're in news
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Speaker 1: and notes friends. Oh so sorry, do you have any
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Speaker 1: other news and notes before we move on to our
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Speaker 1: first impressions? No, I don't, so tell me your first
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Speaker 1: impression of this movie? H super disappointed? I was too.
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Speaker 1: I agree.
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Speaker 2: I will say remember when we did the first part
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Speaker 2: of our Countdown to Christmas preview episode, we talked about
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Speaker 2: this movie and You're like, this is a mite watch
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Speaker 2: for me, and I.
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Speaker 1: Was like, are you kidding me? Has Ryan Pavee, It's
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Speaker 1: on Saturday night? How is this a maybe watch? I
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Speaker 1: think your instincts are good, Megan, Well, and my instinct
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Speaker 1: was how did they make a whole movie around and
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Speaker 1: around the world Christmas Party? And we're going to talk
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Speaker 1: about all the reasons how they didn't do that. Ryan
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Speaker 1: Pavey just as pretty as ever, but not enough to
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Speaker 1: carry this movie across the finish line for me. Now,
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Speaker 1: before I dog on this movie anymore, let's talk about
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Speaker 1: what we did like about this movie. I have two
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Speaker 1: things exactly laym on me.
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Speaker 2: I really like Janelle Parrish. I like her as an actress.
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Speaker 2: I'm excited to see her in more Hallmark movies. I
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Speaker 2: think she's natural and nothing feels too for with her.
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Speaker 2: I just enjoy to watch her. Okay, I like her too.
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Speaker 2: I liked George, who is the chef.
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Speaker 1: He was played by an actor named Mark Anthony Messaiah
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Speaker 1: and I found him charming. And there's a scene when
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Speaker 1: Janelle Parrish as Paige walks into the kitchen after having
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Speaker 1: just been to the bakery and he has this whole
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Speaker 1: year cheating on me moment, and I found it charming
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Speaker 1: and fun. And I enjoyed George quite a bit. I
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Speaker 1: liked him too.
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Speaker 2: He had like ten lines maybe in the whole thing,
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Speaker 2: but I thought he was he sold me on those
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Speaker 2: ten lines.
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Speaker 1: Good job, yep, good job.
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Speaker 2: I like the one scene when she's interviewing the guest
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Speaker 2: for ideas on the Christmas party. I thought that was
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Speaker 2: really fun. I really like the idea of a Christmas
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Speaker 2: around the world party where you get to see other traditions.
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Speaker 2: But I did not think this was necessary to the story.
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Speaker 1: I thought that the filming location was beautiful, the inn
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Speaker 1: itself and no, oh no, okay, well we're gonna talk
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Speaker 1: about that in a little bit. But I enjoyed that.
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Speaker 1: I liked the interiors. I liked the lighting. They have
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Speaker 1: this big, beautiful chandelier by the stairs that I enjoyed.
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Speaker 1: I would stay there. I have stayed in cheesy, cheesily
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Speaker 1: decorated Christmas hotels that are decorated year round, not nice.
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Speaker 1: I have also stayed in hotels that were decorated beautifully
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Speaker 1: for the holidays, and I thought they did a nice
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Speaker 1: job with the holiday de corps. But apparently I'm wrong.
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Speaker 2: There was just one that stood out to me, and
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Speaker 2: it's when they would go outside, and it was this
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Speaker 2: huge star like hanging like almost like as low as
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Speaker 2: the top of these people's heads. So it's like, watch
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Speaker 2: out for that big hanging star it was just too much,
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Speaker 2: too much.
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Speaker 1: I liked Noah's in Stax camera, I mean, nice product placement,
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Speaker 1: and I thought it was kind of a cool retro
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Speaker 1: looking polaroid camera. We have kind of the big giant
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Speaker 1: plastic key in Stax cameras in our house, and so
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Speaker 1: I liked. I liked to see in the redesign there.
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Speaker 1: And my last thing is I thought the Charlotte the
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Speaker 1: Marmot bit was well executed and brought to completion. Well,
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Speaker 1: you did not enjoy Charlotte. It's so funny because we
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Speaker 1: both disliked this movie, but like, it's just funny that
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Speaker 1: the things that you kind of thought were cute and
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Speaker 1: charming I absolutely hated. Well. I think one of the
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Speaker 1: reasons I liked it is because much of this movie
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Speaker 1: felt unfinished for me, and I thought that they did
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Speaker 1: a good job of following that through. It had a
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Speaker 1: full storyline from beginning to end, and the callbacks were
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Speaker 1: done well, That's part of why I liked it. All Right,
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Speaker 1: can we please talk about what we wished for? Oh
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Speaker 1: my gosh, yes, go ahead.
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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna first start with Ryan Pavie. Okay, I
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Speaker 2: really like Ryan Pavee He's come a long way for me.
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Speaker 2: The first movie I've ever seen Ryan Pavie in was
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Speaker 2: Last Christmas. It's called A Timeless Christmas.
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Speaker 1: I thought he was.
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Speaker 2: A big, stiff, awful actor. But then he's been in
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Speaker 2: a couple movies this year. One was Don't Go Breaking
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Speaker 2: My Heart, and I thought he was funny in that
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Speaker 2: he could handle the comedy. I found him charming, easy
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Speaker 2: to look at. I didn't like him as much in
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Speaker 2: that little little daytime drama, but still very pleasant to
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Speaker 2: look at.
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Speaker 1: In this movie, I thought he was kind of a dud. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: He did not stir up any sort of wowie zowie
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Speaker 2: for me zero in this movie. Yeah, like even like
21:52
Speaker 2: sometimes his eyes blue and mesmerizing. In this one, he
21:56
Speaker 2: just was like any other actor. I was disappointed.
22:02
Speaker 1: So my biggest disappointment in this movie is we talked
22:07
Speaker 1: about a movie last year, and that movie was called
22:10
Speaker 1: Never Kiss a Man in a Christmas Weater, And I
22:13
Speaker 1: remember very little about that movie except that I remember
22:16
Speaker 1: feeling like there was no clear direction and that movie
22:20
Speaker 1: script could have benefited very much from an editor to
22:23
Speaker 1: title together. And I felt very much the same about
22:26
Speaker 1: this movie. There are so many things that I thought, what,
22:29
Speaker 1: I don't understand why this is happening. For example, I
22:36
Speaker 1: don't understand why Page and Dylan ever spent any time together.
22:41
Speaker 1: It never made sense to me that Page is home
22:46
Speaker 1: visiting her family and she's planning this party, and Dylan's
22:51
Speaker 1: this investor who's there with his son. But then all
22:54
Speaker 1: of a sudden, they're doing all of these activities together.
22:57
Speaker 1: It didn't work for me. Why why were they together
23:01
Speaker 1: other than oh, we're in the same room, come decorate
23:04
Speaker 1: cookies with me, come to this event. I didn't buy it.
23:09
Speaker 1: There was no reason for them to be sending time
23:11
Speaker 1: together other than oh, we're two pretty people. But it
23:14
Speaker 1: didn't make sense normally, there's a reason these people who
23:18
Speaker 1: have no reason to be together, these two strangers are
23:22
Speaker 1: spending time together, and there was no believable reason for me.
23:27
Speaker 2: I agree, absolutely agree. The biggest thing that I wished
23:32
Speaker 2: for was less kid Sorry, Noah. I can't stand kids
23:39
Speaker 2: who are like, no, it all's you precocious?
23:42
Speaker 1: Yes uh, I.
23:43
Speaker 2: Was like, get out of my TV screen. I cannot
23:46
Speaker 2: stand no. I like that they showed like a single dad,
23:50
Speaker 2: like that's cool.
23:50
Speaker 1: Whatever. Well, he was actually the only thing that made
23:53
Speaker 1: their relationship believable because they kind of were spending time
23:59
Speaker 1: together in as a way to entertain Noah, did I
24:03
Speaker 1: stroke out? Or there's a scene that doesn't make any
24:09
Speaker 1: sense to me. A page comes home. The lobby is
24:14
Speaker 1: full of people and they're all here for this around
24:19
Speaker 1: the World Christmas party and they have nowhere to put them.
24:22
Speaker 1: And this is a big emergency. If people just randomly
24:27
Speaker 1: show up at your inn for some party that you're
24:30
Speaker 1: throwing and you don't have rooms, don't you just say
24:36
Speaker 1: I'm sorry? Was there a reason they didn't have rooms
24:40
Speaker 1: for them? Like? Did they just show up for the party?
24:43
Speaker 1: Was there some glitch in their reservation system that made
24:46
Speaker 1: this their emergency? Because it seems to me that if
24:49
Speaker 1: I'm a holiday in not a holiday in in during
24:53
Speaker 1: the holidays that is full and people show up the
24:58
Speaker 1: day before our big party and we don't have space
25:01
Speaker 1: for them, that doesn't sound like my problem.
25:03
Speaker 2: Okay, two things. One I feel and maybe I stroked
25:07
Speaker 2: out during this. I thought that word got out that
25:11
Speaker 2: they were going to sell the in and that's why
25:13
Speaker 2: all these people showed up for the very last like
25:17
Speaker 2: Coyote Christmas.
25:19
Speaker 1: Yes, I think correct?
25:21
Speaker 2: Okay, Which is like, so stupid. You're not gonna just whatever.
25:25
Speaker 2: You're not going to just show up for like try
25:27
Speaker 2: to stay the night, and there's no other thing. But
25:29
Speaker 2: here's the other thing. There's no room at the inn.
25:34
Speaker 1: Inn.
25:35
Speaker 2: Do you think they were trying to slide this like
25:40
Speaker 2: Christmas story in there of Mary and Joseph.
25:45
Speaker 1: Maybe, but it still doesn't make sense to me. This
25:48
Speaker 1: is not your problem to solve. Why would you Because
25:52
Speaker 1: they make the comment, oh, we've got this angry mob.
25:55
Speaker 1: Why are they mad they're showing up at a hotel
25:57
Speaker 1: two days before a holiday reservation space? I don't und right,
26:03
Speaker 1: you don't get to be mad at me. You don't
26:05
Speaker 1: have a reservation. I'm so sorry. We're full because we're
26:09
Speaker 1: so popular. That's why you're here. Yeah.
26:11
Speaker 2: And the other thing is is like the dad and
26:14
Speaker 2: mom were like all stoked about like the big influx
26:17
Speaker 2: of people.
26:18
Speaker 1: Right, But.
26:20
Speaker 2: The problem wasn't that the inn wasn't popular, Like that
26:23
Speaker 2: wasn't the reason why they were selling.
26:25
Speaker 1: They make that point to death right.
26:28
Speaker 2: The second thing is, are you gonna spend the night
26:33
Speaker 2: in a tent in the snow?
26:36
Speaker 1: I'm not I know they were fancy tents, but did
26:39
Speaker 1: they ever point out like, oh, and here's how we're
26:41
Speaker 1: heating them. They did not, did they? No? No, because
26:44
Speaker 1: I was waiting for that. Although I don't know if
26:47
Speaker 1: you saw, but when the truck pulls in, it does
26:50
Speaker 1: say something like all Weather Glamping Solutions. Uh huh, So
26:57
Speaker 1: I did notice that, but I was waiting for the
26:59
Speaker 1: And how are they heating these snow tents?
27:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it must be a thing, but no,
27:06
Speaker 2: there's no restroom, Like how does that work? You gotta
27:09
Speaker 2: traps into the inn at night, in the middle of
27:12
Speaker 2: the night, in the spittal body.
27:13
Speaker 1: But it's not like they have a public shower in
27:16
Speaker 1: the inn. That too, so stupid. Why why did they
27:22
Speaker 1: have to have this storyline? They didn't. They didn't need
27:26
Speaker 1: this huge influx of people, particularly because they tell us
27:30
Speaker 1: probably twenty three times in the course of this movie
27:33
Speaker 1: that the inn is making money. It makes more money
27:35
Speaker 1: every single year, so that's not their problem. Oh oh,
27:42
Speaker 1: did not understand the assignment?
27:44
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Well just a little side note here. I
27:48
Speaker 2: looked up the writer of this movie, and this writer's
27:51
Speaker 2: IMDb was a ton of like production assistant jobs, like
27:57
Speaker 2: for American Idol, and like all kinds of things, And
28:00
Speaker 2: I was like, how does this person write? Like, I
28:02
Speaker 2: don't know what a production assistant does, Like, I have
28:05
Speaker 2: no idea. Do they write stuff? How do they get
28:08
Speaker 2: a Hallmark movie?
28:09
Speaker 1: Perhaps you just submitted it. I don't know. That's a
28:11
Speaker 1: great question, because a production is assistant, in my mind,
28:14
Speaker 1: is like helping on set. Yes, you're kind of everyone's bitch.
28:19
Speaker 2: So this also makes me think, like, we need to
28:22
Speaker 2: write a Hallmark movie. We can one hundred percent write
28:25
Speaker 2: a better movie than what we just watched.
28:29
Speaker 1: Right. The writer has ten Script Department credits first as
28:34
Speaker 1: script supervisor. I don't know what a script supervisor does.
28:39
Speaker 1: I'm looking it up. I'd like to know what. A
28:40
Speaker 1: script supervisor is a member of a film crew who
28:43
Speaker 1: oversees the continuity of the motion picture, including wardrobe, prop, set, dressing,
28:47
Speaker 1: hair makeup. So like, if your hair is over your
28:49
Speaker 1: right shoulder in this scene and they're reshooting it, they
28:51
Speaker 1: want to make sure that it's right, all in the
28:53
Speaker 1: same place. I'd be so good at that job. Yeah,
28:57
Speaker 1: be terrible at that job. I complain about it a lot,
29:02
Speaker 1: but that's also why nobody hired me to do this job.
29:06
Speaker 2: I just need to know how we can submit a
29:08
Speaker 2: story to Hallmark.
29:09
Speaker 1: Because I usually have information. Oh you do, let's do it.
29:13
Speaker 1: An idea, Yeah, I have an idea. I think it
29:15
Speaker 1: would work.
29:16
Speaker 2: My last thing, what I wish for a better storyline?
29:21
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm concerned about Dylan and his son,
29:25
Speaker 2: Dylan and Paige Page in her family, the future of
29:28
Speaker 2: Coyote Creek inn Pages want for more creating the best
29:34
Speaker 2: Christmas Party. Charlotte the squirrel.
29:37
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know who it is. I know,
29:40
Speaker 1: but I had to look that up. I actually look
29:42
Speaker 1: that up because I've never heard of a more mutt
29:44
Speaker 1: before or whatever it's called. Huh. It just says it's
29:46
Speaker 1: a lot like.
29:47
Speaker 2: A large ground squirrel, So it's a squirrel.
29:51
Speaker 1: Mm hmmmmm. No, I did one of those before. Uh No,
29:56
Speaker 1: I didn't know who to care about either. I didn't
29:57
Speaker 1: know who what what was that was the result? I
30:00
Speaker 1: don't know what was the problem. Yeah, I don't know.
30:03
Speaker 2: And then here's my final last thing. Why was Paige
30:07
Speaker 2: pissed off at Dylan and not her parents? No, girl,
30:10
Speaker 2: you got it all wrong?
30:12
Speaker 1: Yes? And why didn't he say to her? Maybe he did?
30:16
Speaker 1: I told them to tell you. I went to them
30:18
Speaker 1: and told them I couldn't do this anymore. This wasn't fair.
30:22
Speaker 1: He didn't tell her the big family secret when it
30:25
Speaker 1: wasn't his job. Play.
30:28
Speaker 3: Yeah.
30:28
Speaker 1: Hate When they say we tried to tell you, you, guys,
30:33
Speaker 1: just say, actually, no, we need to talk about this.
30:36
Speaker 1: This is how you tell somebody something. You don't let
30:39
Speaker 1: them get distracted by the cute boy and leave in
30:41
Speaker 1: the middle of the conversation. Because it was very clear
30:45
Speaker 1: that they say, well, actually, that's not what we were
30:47
Speaker 1: going to say, and then she runs away. Wouldn't you
30:49
Speaker 1: be curious what their thing, that, their big discussion they
30:52
Speaker 1: wanted to have with you was. I'd be like, tell
30:55
Speaker 1: me now, Ryan Bavies here gotta go. Ho guys, so dumb? Oh?
31:02
Speaker 1: Two more things I wished for? No more fireworks, thank you.
31:05
Speaker 1: I don't need fireworks on Christmas Eve? Why.
31:10
Speaker 2: I think it's kind of magical, Okay, I just think
31:15
Speaker 2: it's neat because it's not expected. You expect fireworks in
31:19
Speaker 2: the summertime.
31:21
Speaker 1: We watched so many Christmas movies last year with fireworks,
31:26
Speaker 1: and you dogged on all of them. I did. I
31:28
Speaker 1: don't even remember you guys, Do I need fireworks here.
31:32
Speaker 1: The last thing that I wished for. Why are we
31:37
Speaker 1: redesigning the hotel? It is very clearly not run down.
31:41
Speaker 1: Do you want to expand it? Sure, take the current
31:46
Speaker 1: style and make it bigger, build out the spa, whatever
31:50
Speaker 1: you're going to do, But it doesn't need this complete redesign,
31:54
Speaker 1: right for did you see that, folks? Yeah? I have
31:57
Speaker 1: a few, two of mine we've already discussed. But like
32:01
Speaker 1: the Gilmore girls, Page and Quinn are terrible fake coffee drinkers. Oh,
32:07
Speaker 1: I didn't notice. In the early scene they're walking through
32:11
Speaker 1: towns the first time the two of them are together,
32:14
Speaker 1: and they're both drinking coffee and their cups are very
32:17
Speaker 1: obviously empty. Janelle Paris drinks several times from her empty cup,
32:22
Speaker 1: and why can't they have water in their cups? Right?
32:26
Speaker 1: Why not? For my did you see that?
32:29
Speaker 2: There was a couple of them I have. There's one
32:31
Speaker 2: scene when Page and Dylan are walking down the city
32:34
Speaker 2: street and they're like in their winter coats and in
32:36
Speaker 2: the background, very small you can see someone crossing the
32:40
Speaker 2: street and they're wearing shorts and flip flops.
32:42
Speaker 3: Nah, there were some background actors like in coats, but
32:48
Speaker 3: like in the you can they weren't super tiny, and
32:51
Speaker 3: I was like, that guy's wearing shorts.
32:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was pretty funny. They didn't shut down the
32:55
Speaker 1: entire street for filming, No they didn't. They didn't. And
33:00
Speaker 1: they are decorating cookies. They're helping out the baker. Yes, yes,
33:04
Speaker 1: and I wrote, wait, she was decorating those ugly ass
33:08
Speaker 1: cookies for a guest order. I know, I know. I
33:11
Speaker 1: was like, if I was the baker, I'd be like, no,
33:13
Speaker 1: I'm not letting you and a child decorate cookies because
33:17
Speaker 1: it's gonna get messy and they're gonna look terrible. And
33:21
Speaker 1: he's like, go nuts, and then she squeezes all that
33:23
Speaker 1: frashing all over. No, this woman's gonna get fired. Yeah,
33:28
Speaker 1: don't go nuts.
33:29
Speaker 2: You don't want to go to a party and have
33:31
Speaker 2: like you're expecting a Martha Stewart type frosted cookie. Not
33:36
Speaker 2: eat something my child made at home.
33:40
Speaker 1: No, indeed, indeed, yeah, go nuts. She's squeezing.
33:45
Speaker 2: They had a moment too where they both like grat
33:47
Speaker 2: went to go grab the like icing and I was like,
33:50
Speaker 2: are we getting somewhere? But no, nope, nope, big old
33:54
Speaker 2: dead between these two. No chemistry hmmm, did you notice
33:58
Speaker 2: the awful signage at the Christmas Around the World party?
34:02
Speaker 1: Did not?
34:03
Speaker 2: It looks straight out of like maybe like a Girl
34:08
Speaker 2: Scout International Festival. The tables are set up and that
34:12
Speaker 2: somebody made like a homemade sign that says like Perogi's
34:16
Speaker 2: or it was terrible, terrible.
34:20
Speaker 1: I was like, if this chick is like so into
34:23
Speaker 1: detail and like making it beautiful, it was not.
34:27
Speaker 2: It was so cheese. I got two more. Okay, no
34:30
Speaker 2: digital snow in this movie. Where was this supposed to
34:33
Speaker 2: take place?
34:35
Speaker 1: I hadn't, uh, Colorado because she's from Denver, so I
34:40
Speaker 1: think they were in Colorado.
34:42
Speaker 2: Wouldn't there be snow in Colorado?
34:44
Speaker 1: There's snow on the ground, yeah, but not like a lot.
34:48
Speaker 1: There was no like snow angels or anything like that.
34:51
Speaker 1: It snow did not play a big role in this movie. No.
34:54
Speaker 2: And finally in the end scene, the fireworks scene, post kiss,
35:00
Speaker 2: he's like holding on to Noah and she like snuggles
35:04
Speaker 2: up to Noah the kid, and I was like, that's weird, Like.
35:08
Speaker 1: They just had like a kiss.
35:09
Speaker 2: They're not like an instant family of three now like
35:12
Speaker 2: cozy up to Dylan, not to the kid.
35:15
Speaker 1: I don't know.
35:15
Speaker 2: I just thought it was weird and that kid, oh
35:17
Speaker 2: my god. Every time like he would come into this scene.
35:19
Speaker 1: High page, I was like, I can't it's not the kid.
35:23
Speaker 1: I just hate kids in a movie. Don't don't go outside,
35:26
Speaker 1: You're gonna be stuck by lighting today. Why? I love children?
35:32
Speaker 1: But sorry, why do you rate this movie two stars?
35:36
Speaker 1: Me too, exactly? I'm so sorry. It had the pieces
35:42
Speaker 1: to be a good movie, but it was not well assembled.
35:46
Speaker 2: I would like to also note that on We have
35:50
Speaker 2: a Girl's Gone hallwork Instagram, and I wanted to ask,
35:55
Speaker 2: like people like what how they rated this movie?
35:58
Speaker 1: And it was not great? It was low ratings. Oh interesting? Yeah,
36:04
Speaker 1: So I think like a lot of people didn't really
36:06
Speaker 1: like this movie, which is kind of a bummer. I
36:09
Speaker 1: think you have two really good actors and like not
36:13
Speaker 1: the material to support what they can give. So I
36:17
Speaker 1: think they set the bar really high with their opening weekend,
36:20
Speaker 1: and now it's gonna be hard to live up to
36:23
Speaker 1: that because I don't know that you can have forty
36:26
Speaker 1: one hits that. Yeah, I don't think you can. So
36:33
Speaker 1: what's coming up from us? As we mentioned, you can
36:35
Speaker 1: listen to our review of Christmas sale on Patreon, Patreon
36:39
Speaker 1: dot com, slash Megan and Wendy and next week. The
36:42
Speaker 1: three movies that we have coming are Gingerbread Miracle on Friday,
36:48
Speaker 1: Next Stop Christmas on Saturday, and A Christmas Treasure on Sunday.
36:52
Speaker 1: And be sure to follow us on Instagram Megan and
36:55
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36:58
Speaker 1: you would like us to record.
37:03
Speaker 2: Which one are you hoping gets chosen, because I certainly
37:06
Speaker 2: have a favorite.
37:07
Speaker 1: Oh big fingers crossed for Next Stop Christmas.
37:09
Speaker 2: Oh God, I hope it's good. I'm going to be
37:11
Speaker 2: really disappointed if it's not.
37:13
Speaker 1: It's our back to the future nod, although A Gingerbread
37:17
Speaker 1: Miracle does have magical cookies. Thank you so much for
37:20
Speaker 1: listening to this episode of the podcast. We'll see you
37:22
Speaker 1: next week. Let us know what over you're hoping to
37:25
Speaker 1: hear from us. Have a great weekend, everybody. Goodbye bye