Latest / CattleUSA Daily / 107: The Truth About ‘Factory Farms’ — and What We Should Actually Say
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- 0:03Welcome to the Cattle USA Daily podcast, your go to source for
- 0:07the latest livestock markets, industry insights and the update
- 0:10shaping agriculture today. I'm your host, Lauren Moylan, a
- 0:14passionate advocate for agriculture, here to keep you
- 0:16informed and connected. Now let's dive into today's
- 0:20episode. Welcome to another episode of
- 0:26the Cattle USA Daily Podcast. Happy Tuesday everyone.
- 0:30I hope that you are having a great start to your week.
- 0:34And no matter what day you're listening to this, I hope you're
- 0:36having a great day and thank you so much for joining us on
- 0:39another episode. Today we are bringing back
- 0:43another misconception in AG and the truth behind it and how we
- 0:49as producers should be communicating that with.
- 0:53This has been something we've been doing often on for the past
- 0:55couple months and we've really been enjoying these episodes.
- 0:58I've been having fun doing them. You guys have been having a
- 1:00blast listening to them. At least I hope you are.
- 1:03It seems like you are. So we are going to keep doing
- 1:05them. And today we are talking factory
- 1:09farms. Now that's a loaded phrase and a
- 1:13phrase that we don't really love here.
- 1:17An AG, right? It is a phrase that whenever it
- 1:20gets said, maybe hit some nerves or you hear that and you're
- 1:25like, oh Lord, here we go again. So I am saying this for all of
- 1:29the people that are listening to this episode and not watching
- 1:32it, Factory farms. I am putting in parentheses with
- 1:36this because as producers, we know that factory farms, that
- 1:42word just gets a bad rap. And it is a phrase that has come
- 1:46from a lot of places and has a lot behind it and why our
- 1:50consumer population uses it, why activist groups use it.
- 1:54We're going to explain all of that today.
- 1:56We're going to talk where it came from, what people think
- 1:58that it actually means, why that is misleading, and then how we
- 2:02as producers can respond with facts and empathy, not
- 2:06defensiveness, which defensiveness is kind of my
- 2:09first default go to in a lot of these situations.
- 2:13And so this is an episode just as much for me as it is for
- 2:16every single one of you out there as well.
- 2:18So where did it come from? Where did the term factory farm
- 2:22originate from? So it isn't something that is
- 2:25based on regulation or science. It is a media made and emotion
- 2:31driven phrase. It first started gaining
- 2:34traction in the 1970s as agriculture evolved with new
- 2:38tech and efficiencies, but then it became more mainstream
- 2:43through documentaries, activist campaigns, and influencers.
- 2:47But here is the problem with the phrase.
- 2:50It is a catch all phrase that oversimplifies a very diverse
- 2:54industry and the term often just relates to consumer discomfort
- 2:59more than actual industry practices.
- 3:02Here's the thing. This term was derived to make an
- 3:07emotion driven connection with people.
- 3:11You hear the term factory farm, Hey, it slides off your tongue
- 3:15really well. Like they did a good job with
- 3:17that. And then it's memorable.
- 3:20And see, it's one of those phrases that you hear that and
- 3:24you're like, oh, factory farm. I don't want my animals living
- 3:28in a factory environment. I don't want my animals mass
- 3:31produced. I don't what what do you mean by
- 3:34that? That's what our consumers think
- 3:36when they hear this. So our job as producers is not
- 3:41to shame people for not knowing. It is to educate by telling the
- 3:46truth. The reality of the situation is
- 3:49for years and years. For almost 25 years, the most of
- 3:54this decade, we have been talking about the concept of
- 3:58factory farms and it has been a term that has continued to be
- 4:01used by the media, pushed by influencers and pushed by
- 4:05activist groups because it is emotion driven.
- 4:09So when people hear the term factory farm, they automatically
- 4:13often assume that animals are mistreated or that they're never
- 4:17seen by people, or that corporations run everything
- 4:22families don't. They also automatically assume
- 4:25that because something is bigger, it automatically means
- 4:28that it's worse. There's also a big
- 4:31misconception. The efficiency in food
- 4:33production comes at a cost of ethics.
- 4:36There's also the aspect that technology in livestock
- 4:40production is unnatural or inhumane.
- 4:42All of these concepts make sense.
- 4:46You hear the word factory farm? Remove yourself from the
- 4:49industry. Bigger corporate, no humans,
- 4:53efficiency, technology. Those are things you think of.
- 4:57Those are things that I think of.
- 4:59So it makes sense that our consumer population is going
- 5:01there. Here's why this matters for you.
- 5:04These beliefs shape policy, purchasing behavior, and public
- 5:10trust within the agricultural industry.
- 5:12And you know what? The beef industry has not always
- 5:16been the best at showing the full picture, so our consumers
- 5:19filled in the blanks. If we want to change the story,
- 5:23we've got to be the ones showing up in it.
- 5:25So here's some facts for you. I always like to have these
- 5:30episodes filled with some facts that you can remember when you
- 5:33were having these conversations with consumers.
- 5:36And remember that we can replace fear with facts if it is done
- 5:42from the right place, that is done from a place of a matching
- 5:45emotion of sitting there and saying I see where you are
- 5:49coming from, but let me tell you what is happening on my
- 5:53operation or all of the things. And we'll get into that in a
- 5:55second. But first and foremost, let's
- 5:57talk the facts. 91% of US farms and ranches are family owned and
- 6:02operated according to USDA. That is massive.
- 6:06That is a massive amount of agriculture.
- 6:09So that was a great fact to put away.
- 6:11When you are talking to people, especially if they lean into the
- 6:15corporate side of things, hey, 91% of US farms and ranches are
- 6:19family operated and owned. There you go, there's your fact
- 6:23for that. The next thing it really
- 6:26emphasized, the cattle spend most of their lives on pasture
- 6:30cared for by people who know them as individuals.
- 6:34When people think factory farms, a lot of times immediately their
- 6:38minds go to a feed lot situation.
- 6:41And we're going to talk feedlots here in a second and how we can
- 6:44approach the feed lot narrative with education, because there is
- 6:51so much science behind it. And we all know as producers
- 6:55that Catalan feedlots, I heard this phrase a few weeks ago and
- 7:00it was great. We need to refer to feedlots
- 7:03with our consumers like a hotel stay.
- 7:06Cattle are in feedlots. Yes, they are extremely
- 7:09efficient. They are extremely focused on
- 7:12animal welfare and keeping animals engaged and happy and
- 7:17healthy and all of those things. But it's also a very, very short
- 7:22period of that animal's life. Most of their life is spent on
- 7:25pasture and they are cared for by people who know them
- 7:28individually and even on feedlots, they are cared for by
- 7:30people who know them individually.
- 7:32Those pen writers who ride pens and feedlots know each of those
- 7:35animals individually to a way that I could argue is better
- 7:39than the way that I know my Catalan pasture.
- 7:41Sometimes. The next thing with modern
- 7:44facilities, we need to emphasize that they are designed to reduce
- 7:48stress and promote animal welfare.
- 7:50Whether it is a facility design at your operation or whether it
- 7:55is a facility design when you are talking feedlots, remember
- 7:58that they are designed to reduce stress and promote animal
- 8:01welfare. And we are continuously bringing
- 8:04out more research on how to improve animal welfare in every
- 8:08scenario and situation. And then also really lean into
- 8:12technology. Don't be afraid to talk about
- 8:15technology. Technology is great and we love
- 8:18using it because it gives us things like nutrition plans, vet
- 8:22care, diagnosis is daily checks and record keeping.
- 8:25It makes all of these things easier and I could go on for
- 8:28hours of all of the ways that we use technology in our industry.
- 8:32So don't shy away from that. Explain it and explain how you
- 8:35use it in your operation. Then explain that the size of an
- 8:38operation does not dictate its care.
- 8:41Values do I would never say this to a consumer, but as from a
- 8:46producer to producer conversation, it is one of those
- 8:50situations and scenarios that we know just as well that an
- 8:53operation that has 500 cattle could care for its cattle better
- 8:56than an operation that has 20. We've all seen it.
- 9:00Every single one of us, I guarantee you, has seen that and
- 9:03it is important to remember that.
- 9:06Lean into the value side there. I would never share that with a
- 9:10consume, that little tidbit that I just said.
- 9:12I would never say that in a consumer conversation because I
- 9:15don't want to shine a bad rap on any part of agriculture.
- 9:20I don't want to talk bad on any part and that has a negative
- 9:23connotation to it. But it is important to remember
- 9:26that size did not, does not dictate its care.
- 9:28Values do. And then with those values, I
- 9:31encourage you that when you say values do share about your
- 9:34family's values, share about your operational values and make
- 9:38it personal. The thing is guys, we are not
- 9:40factories, we are families. And every single decision that
- 9:43we make balances animal care, land stewardship, and long term
- 9:47sustainability within agriculture.
- 9:49And it is so important. Important that as producers
- 9:51within agriculture, we continue to stand up for each of those
- 9:55pillars and that we are the voices for all of them
- 9:58throughout the time. So here's how to respond.
- 10:00Responding to consumers is difficult, especially if you're
- 10:05having a conversation that feels like it's going nowhere.
- 10:08But here's the thing, it is our responsibility to be prepared to
- 10:11respond when we get asked questions.
- 10:14So first and foremost, what does not work?
- 10:16Getting defensive. Shaming people for not knowing
- 10:19and trying to out stat emotion. All three of those are going to
- 10:24fly right over their heads. Goodbye conversation.
- 10:27You are done as soon as you do any of those.
- 10:30If you get defensive immediately that person's walls are going to
- 10:33go up. If you start shaming people
- 10:34immediately, their walls are going to go up.
- 10:36If you try to out stat them out, stat their emotion, immediately
- 10:40their walls are going to go up because you are not matching
- 10:42their emotion with emotion where they are.
- 10:44Here's what does work. You need to acknowledge that
- 10:48people are asking questions because they care.
- 10:52We want a consumer population that cares.
- 10:55With that, we need to be the ones that are out there speaking
- 10:58and answering those questions because they care and they want
- 11:03answers. And we need to check who they're
- 11:05getting them from because not all the time are they getting
- 11:07them from reputable sources that are actually pro agriculture and
- 11:10sharing the story of what is happening on our operations each
- 11:13and every day. I want you to offer real life
- 11:16examples of what your day looks like.
- 11:18Checking cattle, walking PEDs, feeding, watching for health
- 11:22signs. What what does your day look
- 11:23like? And bring in your family to it.
- 11:26Especially with this factory farm topic scenario that we are
- 11:30talking about. Bring your family into the
- 11:32conversation. Talk about a multi generational
- 11:35operation or how your family is involved or how your husband's
- 11:38involved or your brother's sister's kids, whether and even
- 11:41if you're not on a family operation, bring in the familial
- 11:45aspect of it and how you care as an operator and everything that
- 11:49goes along with that. Make it personal and then lead
- 11:52with lived experiences. For example, you say something
- 11:55like on our place, on our operation.
- 11:57In my experience, share a lived experience and make it personal.
- 12:02The next thing, avoid the term factory altogether.
- 12:07Keep it out of the conversation. If someone approaches you about
- 12:10factory farms, don't say the word factory when you're
- 12:13explaining that. I would instead say something
- 12:16like commercial beef operation, family run operation, multi
- 12:19generational ranch or feed yard. And then here's where we're
- 12:23going to talk about feed yards and then explain what a feed
- 12:27yard is and that it is the most efficient and humane way to feed
- 12:32cattle for the short period of time that they are there.
- 12:35In a feed yard conversation, things to avoid are emphasizing
- 12:40that it is the end of the animal's life and emphasizing
- 12:44that also not most of our consumers don't know what a feed
- 12:47yard is. So that's why I said use the
- 12:49word feed yard, but then explain what a feed yard is.
- 12:52And I would say it almost in the exact way that I just did, that
- 12:56it is the most efficient and humane way to feed cattle for
- 13:00the short period of time that they are there.
- 13:02You don't need to go into a whole lot more detail.
- 13:05I think sometimes if you open a can of worms, you need to be
- 13:08prepared to answer the questions for it.
- 13:10And unfortunately, as producers, we know that the feed yard
- 13:13industry is a massive part of our industry and it is such a
- 13:17vital, vital, vital part of our industry.
- 13:19But it's also the part that gets the most flak.
- 13:21It is the part that is not as glamorous as calving cows on
- 13:26Prairie Meadows in the Flint Hills.
- 13:28It's not as pretty. Like if you compare a picture of
- 13:30that to a picture of a steer in a feed lot, it's just from a
- 13:34visual aspect, it's not as pretty.
- 13:36And so unfortunately, the feed yard industry gets the most
- 13:39black. So if you're going to open up
- 13:41that can of worms, be ready to answer the questions that come
- 13:45with it. If you're not comfortable
- 13:47talking about feedlots, if you're not comfortable sharing
- 13:50the realness behind it and the story and backing that up with
- 13:55facts, I encourage you to not open that can of worms unless
- 13:58someone specifically asks about it.
- 14:00I would just stay away from it for the most part if you can.
- 14:03In a factory farm situation and scenario, really just lean into
- 14:07hey 91% of operations are family owned and really lean into that.
- 14:14And then lean heavily into your lived experience and not talking
- 14:18about something that you aren't fully comfortable talking about.
- 14:22So I want to end with some tips for you guys.
- 14:25When having conversations with consumers, I want you to use
- 14:28curiosity over correction every single time.
- 14:32Instead of saying this is how you should think or this is the
- 14:36correct answer to that, ask questions.
- 14:39Say where did you hear that? Or I would love to talk about
- 14:43that. But first and foremost, like
- 14:44tell me a little bit about yourself and your background and
- 14:47like ask questions about that person and their life and where
- 14:51they're hearing these things and just lead with curiosity and
- 14:54you'll be amazed at where a conversation can go.
- 14:57And then next thing, invite someone to ask questions.
- 15:01Not all the time when you're having a conversation is it
- 15:03apparent that you are open to questions about what you were
- 15:06talking about, especially if you were in a larger group situation
- 15:09and scenario. I always lead with and please,
- 15:12at any point in time, if you have a question about something
- 15:14that I am saying, please raise your hand or interrupt me.
- 15:16I'm more than happy to answer those questions as they come up
- 15:20so you don't have to wait until the end.
- 15:22And just really reminding people that, hey, I want you to ask
- 15:24questions. I want this to be an engaging
- 15:25conversation, not me speaking at you, because if I'm speaking at
- 15:29you, you're not actually going to be engaged.
- 15:31But if we are having an engaging conversation, I'm answering your
- 15:34questions, you're going to be. I also want you to offer a tour,
- 15:39a video or a look behind the lens of what your operation
- 15:43looks like. So that's a great way to end
- 15:45conversations of I, if it's something that you and your
- 15:48operation are open to, like I would love to have you or your
- 15:51organization or your school or anything like that out to our
- 15:55operations so you can see the real behind the scenes of what a
- 15:58family run operation looks like and what a cattle like an
- 16:01animal's life cycle looks like in the cattle industry or
- 16:03something like that. I always love ending
- 16:05conversations with that because nine times out of 10, they're
- 16:08not going to take you up on that.
- 16:10But that is you opening the door and showing that like, hey, we
- 16:13have nothing to hide and you are welcome at our operation.
- 16:17At any point in time, we would love to have you.
- 16:19The last and final thing is I want you to keep it short and
- 16:23human. It's not perfect, but we care a
- 16:26lot. There you go.
- 16:27Like it does not have to be perfect, does not have to be
- 16:30perfect, but show how much we care.
- 16:33Show how much the cattle industry cares about what we are
- 16:36doing and lean into your lived experience.
- 16:41The thing is, is the fact of the matter.
- 16:45I just pretty much said that twice.
- 16:46Way to end an episode. Great, Lauren.
- 16:48The fact of the matter is the term factory farm is a myth
- 16:53built on misunderstanding. As beef producers, we don't need
- 16:57to tear others down to tell our truth.
- 16:59We can sit here and we can stand on strength of family
- 17:03stewardship, animal care and feeding the world and have
- 17:06conversations that don't shy away from the hard stuff.
- 17:10We lean into them and we are willing to have those hard
- 17:14conversations and talk to our consumers and at the end of the
- 17:18day, just share about our lives and share about agriculture and
- 17:22what that looks like for each and every one of us.
- 17:24So I encourage you all to study what I just talked about.
- 17:28Study the facts of like just storing away a few things that
- 17:3291% a great fact to store away in your brain.
- 17:36A great thing to bring up in conversations and a great way to
- 17:40just get yourself ready to approach consumers and
- 17:43conversations with those around you.
- 17:44So I encourage you to start a conversation at your dinner
- 17:47table and get comfortable from there.
- 17:49Start at your dinner table, go to a grocery store, talk to
- 17:52consumers where they are and get yourself out of your comfort
- 17:55zone because that is where the real growth happens.
- 17:57So thank you guys so much for listening to another episode of
- 18:00the Cattle USA Daily Podcast. I hope you guys enjoyed today's
- 18:04talk factory farms and everything else that that comes
- 18:08with. So thank you.
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- 18:29And we'll see you tomorrow on another episode.