Latest / Aussie Bourbon Lovers / Drinking Blanton’s Gold: Rare Bourbon with Glassware Guru Denver Cramer
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- 0:03Incredible flavours, even better stories.
- 0:05One pour, 10 minutes.
- 0:07Aussie bourbon lovers sharing bourbon with Australia.
- 0:14Hey, got a pop.
- 0:15That was a good one.
- 0:16That was a good one.
- 0:17Good pop.
- 0:17We're the squeak.
- 0:18special guest today.
- 0:19Yeah, we've got...
- 0:19Drinking some Blanton's with who, Dave?
- 0:21We've got Denver back from Denver and Lyley, the magnificent bourbon glasses.
- 0:26And when it was last with us, we tried the side by side with the whiskey glass.
- 0:29But thanks for coming back, mate.
- 0:30Yeah, no worries.
- 0:31you're here with us again.
- 0:32Wearing the same shirt.
- 0:33Yeah, yeah.
- 0:34How embarrassing.
- 0:35We haven't showered yet.
- 0:36What's the...
- 0:37What are we drinking, We're drinking a Blanton's Gold.
- 0:42And it was dumped on, we think about 2020 because it's been smudged.
- 0:45know.
- 0:45Well, it's the fifth of something.
- 0:47It's got the date on the bottle and it says the fifth and then it's a big smudge, but it looks like a, I'm going to guess a 20 is the last one, but quite a few years ago.
- 0:58Hey, cheers.
- 0:59Thanks for coming back and hanging out with us.
- 1:01Cheers.
- 1:03So why did you pick it Blanton's Gold for us to pour?
- 1:07This is just a favourite of ours at home.
- 1:09So, um,
- 1:15Pre...
- 1:16Pre-Bubba.
- 1:17This is the only one that my missus will drink.
- 1:20What?
- 1:21My will drink more?
- 1:25Yeah, this is...
- 1:26And sitting at 51.5, I thought it would be something much lower proof than this.
- 1:31It's a great one to drink.
- 1:33It's a little L on the...
- 1:34I just checked the horse's hoof on each bottle.
- 1:36It's just so smooth.
- 1:38It's like...
- 1:38That's crazy.
- 1:3951.5.
- 1:40Very easy to drink.
- 1:42It's so She's got good taste.
- 1:44And the fun thing that I really like for us as Aussies about plantains is that it's so easy.
- 1:50comparatively, quite easy for us to get.
- 1:52But there's a lot of American bourbon lovers who just can't get their hands on it.
- 1:56Well, I it was a gold that wasn't available in the States for the longest period.
- 2:00And it was available in Japan and Australia, but they just never did it there.
- 2:04I think it was only like a couple of years ago or something that they started doing gold.
- 2:07Last year at the Kentucky Bourbon Festival, there was a huge queue and I was like, oh, is it Blanton's one?
- 2:12And Dave's like, yeah, that's the green one.
- 2:14They made for Australia that we can just get in the bottle.
- 2:19Yeah.
- 2:20Get a trolley full of them at dance.
- 2:21But you always know you're going to get something delicious when you get a blends.
- 2:25Oh, a hundred percent.
- 2:26We really, really love it.
- 2:28at home.
- 2:30Um, it's just, yeah, just something that means something to us.
- 2:33Like, and just a whiskey that I can drink in my partner.
- 2:36Yeah.
- 2:36As opposed to like everything else.
- 2:38Like.
- 2:39All of the whiskeys she's not interested in except for that.
- 2:41Well, she's got good taste and it is about who you drink it with.
- 2:45uh What I reckon is interesting about this is that I love a single barrel as much as the next person, but there's a great consistency to the Blanton single barrels.
- 2:52Like you know when you get a Blanton, it's going to be pretty good and that flavor profile is pretty much bang on.
- 2:56Yeah.
- 2:56I've got a funny feeling like they, they must cherry pick surely.
- 2:59Surely.
- 3:00And they've got a big, big they always, they do taste different, but they're always really.
- 3:04Yeah, but they have to like, if they're making out of a tree, the barrels, some trees are shit.
- 3:09Yeah.
- 3:11So they don't have to.
- 3:12Yeah.
- 3:12They're going to taste it and they're not going to pick it as a single barrel.
- 3:15they'll blend it into something else.
- 3:17Yeah.
- 3:17Isn't it Heaven Hill or who does it?
- 3:19I know.
- 3:20It's Buffalo Tracks.
- 3:20Buffalo Tracks.
- 3:21Yeah.
- 3:21They'll just blend it into something else.
- 3:22Yep.
- 3:23But yeah, all the best ones go into that.
- 3:25And maybe the other ones just go into like the green or the regular brown one.
- 3:30Can we nerd out a little bit about, so single barrel is, it means these bottles is only going to be a couple hundred of them maximum.
- 3:37And it's, they've dumped the everything out of that.
- 3:40This has been proofed down, but what goes into your glass is from only one barrel.
- 3:46And so that's what single barrel means, but then there's things like full proof or batch proof or, you know, these, all these different kinds of terms.
- 3:52When it comes to your glasses, there like a, does it, does it help if it's a higher proof or if it's a particular single barrel better?
- 3:58Is there something off the shelf that's 80 or 90 proof?
- 4:00Well, we designed, this one's got a bigger opening than the whiskey glass.
- 4:04That's designed for like the higher proofs in general that you get in, in bourbon and people tend to like value like higher proofs more in bourbon for some reason.
- 4:15I don't see it the same way.
- 4:18think there are amazing sort of lower proof bourbons like Nick does.
- 4:20um But yeah, we designed it for proof, for generally higher proof.
- 4:26You've got a bigger opening and it kind of blows off the volatiles.
- 4:29um And you're not meant to be having like an alcoholic experience when you're drinking these sort of bourbons.
- 4:35You're meant to be tasting like the subtleties and different flavor notes and the...
- 4:40the quality of oak and all of that kind of stuff that these guys put a lot of effort into.
- 4:44They're not putting effort into trying to get the highest proof.
- 4:48So that's not meant to be the race.
- 4:50So that's what we focus this glass on is to take that out of the equation a little bit.
- 4:56And it should be a smoother, more, it's like bourbon and bolder, I guess.
- 5:00It definitely takes off that like alcohol smack you get in the face.
- 5:05Yeah.
- 5:05When you first sort of...
- 5:07nose burb and then you kind of go back again and enjoy it.
- 5:09Whereas this is just like delicious straight up.
- 5:11it's got the, what we called, I can't remember what you call it now, but we like during design, we call it a chode.
- 5:19but it was, um, this, this stump on the bottom, which kind of isolates hand heat and heat is obviously an issue in, Kentucky and Tennessee.
- 5:27But you can also, because the wider opening put ice in, which a lot of people enjoy it with ice.
- 5:32so this glass was designed for use in Kentucky and Tennessee.
- 5:36This is a great segue to my favorite thing, right?
- 5:38This is this thing that we love about bourbon so much.
- 5:40Spheres.
- 5:41I like ice spheres, but I don't usually put them in a Blanton's gold.
- 5:44the thing of you should drink bourbon how you like it is that this is cultural thing.
- 5:49And you would have seen this when you were in Kentucky.
- 5:50This is this thing of like, there's so, there's this lovely warmth to this idea of like, if you want to have Blanton's gold or something equally special with a Coke, and that's
- 6:01how you're to have the best night.
- 6:03Everyone's okay with that.
- 6:03No one's upset about that.
- 6:05Yeah, whereas there's other worlds and you would have seen in some of the other words would maybe that's maybe not the best idea Yeah, wouldn't put a really good bottle of
- 6:11scotch with a coke and everyone goes that's Yeah generally in Scotch.
- 6:15Yeah, definitely, but um, you know, there are people like Dave ah I can't remember his last name now.
- 6:22He does smoky coke II, which is like LeFrogue from memory and and coke and it's actually a really nice drink.
- 6:29Yeah
- 6:30So fuck everybody else.
- 6:32Drink it how you like it.
- 6:35I probably shouldn't have swore.
- 6:37You're allowed to swear.
- 6:39So it's not for kids?
- 6:41It's not for kids, we're drinking for the kids.
- 6:43Well what happens when you're at home and your Mrs goes, okay, tonight I'll be alright, we'll have a bourbon.
- 6:51This is the only bottle you can crack open.
- 6:52It hasn't quite happened since we've had a little guy.
- 6:56But yeah, more so wine and things like that.
- 6:58And if she's going to have a bourbon, which I hope like end of this year maybe, it's going to be this one for sure.
- 7:06Lots of great memories with that, that particular bourbon.
- 7:08She didn't sneak into the birthing suite like we did.
- 7:12That's a story of hands I think.
- 7:15Or was it Blayton's Gold?
- 7:16No.
- 7:17It was a different one, but it was our celebratory bottle quads.
- 7:20was all over.
- 7:21You know, we the ice chips for, you know, obviously.
- 7:24Medical reasons.
- 7:25Ice chips, but we were using them to mix with our drinks.
- 7:29Because Martin Cocker was a great celebration.
- 7:31celebration.
- 7:32New life.
- 7:34Exactly.
- 7:35Drink it how you like it.
- 7:36Drink it how you like it.
- 7:37This is one of favorite things.
- 7:39Of the time you spent in Kentucky and like the time you've, cause you, you know, it's pretty special that you get to spend so much time with pretty cool distillers doing pretty
- 7:45cool stuff, research and hearing stuff.
- 7:47Was there anything that surprised you about what the guys were saying about how they want to enjoy their own?
- 7:52bourbon that they're making?
- 7:52Is there anything that kind of like, as you were going through that process, you go, Oh, well, I didn't, I didn't expect you to say that.
- 7:59that's a good question.
- 8:02Um, from birth sweets to bourbon and Kentucky.
- 8:07Well, see, here's the thing is that like, think a lot of us as bourbon fans and stuff don't get a chance to hang out with the distillers as much as we would like to.
- 8:13And the insight that you would have about someone who is kind of giving them their product or they're opening a bottle of brand product and kind of going out.
- 8:20if I can choose how I want to enjoy this.
- 8:21These are like you're pretty unique.
- 8:23Yeah, it's generally I found interesting was that they liked a lower proof.
- 8:30So just adding like a bunch of water or, you know, adding not so much ice, but just proving it down to really kind of delve into it.
- 8:39It's not about sort of like the proof.
- 8:41I found that interesting in general across the board.
- 8:45So yeah, that was kind of cool.
- 8:47It's funny.
- 8:48Does that bring out more of the flavors like proving it down or.
- 8:51um
- 8:54That's subjective, but yes, I'm saying general.
- 8:56Changes the flavor.
- 8:57Yeah, there was some blenders in Scotland that would do 50-50.
- 9:00Yep.
- 9:01So 50 % water and 50 % the whiskey just to really get into it and to really understand it.
- 9:08Wow.
- 9:08So yeah, it's against, I guess, general marketing and all that kind of stuff.
- 9:15But it is worth the experiment.
- 9:17think you guys should probably do that.
- 9:19Or maybe at some stage we do an episode on...
- 9:22on the experiments that they do behind the scenes.
- 9:24Yeah.
- 9:25And we'll just do it on the table here and then experience the same bourbon in various ways.
- 9:30Cause when I started drinking, there's no way I would drink it neat.
- 9:33I was very much a like, yeah, whiskey and Coke to start with.
- 9:38And then when we started getting more into the bourbons, was, I would always have ice.
- 9:44But yeah, I reckon maybe the last six months after our episode with
- 9:50They were like, it tastes best when you, you don't mix it with all this stuff.
- 9:54And I was just like, it does.
- 9:56uh And haven't gone back.
- 9:58it's just, yeah.
- 9:59It's really subjective.
- 10:00Yeah.
- 10:01Because like I can really enjoy a bourbon with ice on a hot day sitting outside.
- 10:06Like, and there's a particular house that we stay in in East Nashville.
- 10:11And we just sit down and porch in the evening.
- 10:14And with ice, just, it's just magic.
- 10:17And I think like,
- 10:18That's probably how the forefathers and mothers of Bourbon probably wanted you to just really enjoy it and enjoy the people that you're with and having those conversations.
- 10:29And all the different seasons too.
- 10:32think summertime with ice or a cocktail or, you know, it's delicious.
- 10:37But then in winter, you like have it neat in front of the fire.
- 10:40Yeah.
- 10:40And it's warming then.
- 10:43Like it's beautiful.
- 10:43Like there's so many different aspects and perspectives and facets of Bourbon.
- 10:48Cue the scene of facets.
- 10:51Beautiful.
- 10:52Well, Dan, thanks so much for coming on again.
- 10:54If you do want to get your hands on one of these beautiful bourbon glasses from Denver and Lyley, can just head to DenverandLyley.com, That's it.
- 10:59Get your hands on some.
- 11:00It'll make every bourbon taste better.
- 11:02Wow, that was a good one.
- 11:03Yeah, yeah.
- 11:04It's got a real clank to it.
- 11:05That was good.
- 11:06bye.
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