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NFL Wildcard Weekend | DraftKings & FanDuel DFS Picks, Plays and Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All system's going clear to the left.
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  Speaker 2: Up, what's up everyone?
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  Speaker 3: Tyler Tambaline here aka Totag and Tambo back for the
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  Speaker 3: first Playoff edition show here on the Ship at Nation
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  Speaker 3: YouTube station. We got wild Card weekend ahead, gonna break
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  Speaker 3: it all down for you. We're gonna be talking about
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  Speaker 3: it in two different segments, so we'll talk about the
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  Speaker 3: two games slate. First off, that's got the Rams at
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  Speaker 3: the Panthers, the Packers at the Bears. Will go position
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  Speaker 3: by position, talk through it from a DFS perspective, so
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  Speaker 3: we talk about the pricing, the ownership, going through how
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  Speaker 3: you can build lineups for that to try and get
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  Speaker 3: to the top some big tournaments over on.
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  Speaker 2: DraftKings, Fan Duel, et cetera.
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  Speaker 3: And then we're gonna do a second segment where we
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  Speaker 3: will break down the three games slate for Sunday, which
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  Speaker 3: includes three games on there. We've got Bills at the Jags,
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  Speaker 3: then forty nine Ers at the Eagles, lastly the Chargers
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  Speaker 3: at the Patriots. As far as the channel and content goes,
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  Speaker 3: this will probably get split up into two shows, so
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  Speaker 3: you'll be able to watch this full one now if
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  Speaker 3: you're watching this one before Saturday you'll get it all.
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  Speaker 3: If you want to come back on Saturday, we'll have
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  Speaker 3: the show up just for Sunday, but it'll just be
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  Speaker 3: a split version of this, and then we will be
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  Speaker 3: back for Monday, the three of US two pm Eastern
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  Speaker 3: to break down the Monday Night Football Big Showdown slate there.
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  Speaker 2: With Houston at Pittsburgh. Hoopster title here with me as
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  Speaker 2: always Hoopster. I'm gonna bring you in first, man. What's
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  Speaker 2: going on? How you doing?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? I do them well, you know, excited for the
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  Speaker 4: playoffs to start. I mean when you take just like
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  Speaker 4: one week outside of Week one, because there's a ton
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  Speaker 4: of excitement. I think this is probably my favorite weekend
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  Speaker 4: of the NFL season. I mean, you get all these games,
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  Speaker 4: you know, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, all obviously very meaningful games,
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  Speaker 4: win or go home sort of thing. Contests are really big.
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  Speaker 4: I definitely prefer them to, you know, have Saturday and
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  Speaker 4: Sunday together. They obviously didn't. They're doing the two game
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  Speaker 4: on Saturday, the three game on Sunday. But the prize
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  Speaker 4: pools are massive, and I'm excited that you got the
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  Speaker 4: playoff best balls starting as well, which I've been doing
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  Speaker 4: a lot of over the course of the last few weeks.
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  Speaker 4: Splash has the big Survivor contest starting, so a lot
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  Speaker 4: of new contests rolling out this weekend. Should be some
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  Speaker 4: good football and excited to talk through it all. And
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  Speaker 4: like you said, this will kind of be split up.
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  Speaker 4: If you're coming here and looking for the Sunday stuff,
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  Speaker 4: We're gonna have the timestops stamps at the bottom, and
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  Speaker 4: we might also just have the Sunday show separate so
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  Speaker 4: you'll be able to find it. They don't don't run
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  Speaker 4: away if you're coming for just the Sunday content.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's the best way to put it.
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  Speaker 2: That's what we'll do.
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  Speaker 3: I think we'll just you can get the time stamps,
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  Speaker 3: or we'll get it cut up so that we've got
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  Speaker 3: a video that comes out. It won't be under live
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  Speaker 3: for that show on Saturday when it drops, but once
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  Speaker 3: lock hits on Saturday, we'll pull out for Sunday so
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  Speaker 3: that you have something to get ready and just a
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  Speaker 3: secondary version if you want to watch it back in
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  Speaker 3: quicker format.
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  Speaker 2: Just real quick too.
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  Speaker 3: Well you mentioned it, there is a six game slate
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  Speaker 3: that DraftKings put out that you know, there's one hundred
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  Speaker 3: k to first for the eighteen dollars, et cetera, et cetera.
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  Speaker 3: But the challenge is not really as many tournaments as
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  Speaker 3: you think. There's more to it. It's a totally different
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  Speaker 3: slate compared to everything else. And then also the Sunday
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  Speaker 3: slate is massive with millionaire makers times two and all
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  Speaker 3: that stuff. So that's why we're focusing on the two
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  Speaker 3: game and the three game title. My man, I got
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  Speaker 3: to bring you in two good games to start things off,
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  Speaker 3: and then we'll get to the other three later. But
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  Speaker 3: we've got two pretty solid slates this weekend at least,
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  Speaker 3: if not more, and then a bunch of good showdown
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  Speaker 3: stuff to cover as well.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I'm with who. Week one definitely trumps everything.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, there's football back after many months off, But
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  Speaker 5: after that, I think this is probably the best weekend.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, if you're a football fan period, college football
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  Speaker 5: yesterday all Miss Miami, what a game there tonight Indiana Oregon,
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  Speaker 5: and you got so Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, a
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  Speaker 5: very high level great football. So yeah, I'm super prizes
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  Speaker 5: are massive everywhere, and I think this is one of
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  Speaker 5: the spots if you are a Showdown King, you have
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  Speaker 5: a lot of different Showdown games to do. You don't
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  Speaker 5: even need to play it if you're better on the
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  Speaker 5: bigger games. The six games late the prize are a
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  Speaker 5: little disappointing, but still you won't be a mad at
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  Speaker 5: one hundred K. Then they have the Saturday and Sunday
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  Speaker 5: only that are really really big. Yeah, I'm super pumped.
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  Speaker 5: I'm excited to talk through this one. But amazing football
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  Speaker 5: all day pretty much for the next yeah, two days,
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  Speaker 5: so sign me up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that, and everything means something. We know
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  Speaker 3: who's playing all that. Get a little bit of housekeeping
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  Speaker 3: out of the way first. Got to note this. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: you know someone'll hate this stuff, but when you're giving
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  Speaker 3: away over eighty five thousand dollars, it is super important
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  Speaker 3: to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: No other site is talking about that.
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  Speaker 3: I can certainly promise you that they're not even talking
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  Speaker 3: about eighty five bucks giveaway. So eighty five thousand plus
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  Speaker 3: giving away. This is the grand finale this weekend, so
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  Speaker 3: shout out.
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  Speaker 2: I'll give them all. JG.
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  Speaker 3: Apparently just a note all announce the quick JG. Ryan AF,
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  Speaker 3: Mark P. John C. A. John Coo, John R. Jackson, M.
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  Speaker 3: Bill WKH and Thomas M. Apparently the thing was just
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  Speaker 3: to be named John, and you were in good shape,
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  Speaker 3: even John C. Triple John's made it all the way
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  Speaker 3: to the Grand Finale, and there was only these three
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  Speaker 3: John's in the fifties.
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  Speaker 2: So if you're a John, you were in a good place.
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  Speaker 3: And the top prize is twenty thousand dollars cash plus
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  Speaker 3: one year ship at Nation Sabersim Ultimate Membership second ten five.
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  Speaker 3: You see it all on the screen right down to
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  Speaker 3: one thousand for six through tenth. We've already got the
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  Speaker 3: eleventh through fiftieth taken care of where we sent them
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  Speaker 3: at least three emails already to get them taken care of.
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  Speaker 3: But Hoopster ship at Games first ever coming to an end,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of fun. Like I said, not many sites
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  Speaker 3: giving away eighty five bucks, eighty five thousand cash and
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  Speaker 3: prize between us and our partners shut up Fabersim thoughts
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  Speaker 3: on the Grand finale and Triple John.
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  Speaker 2: Actually I'll take a John to win at that these odds.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously, congrats everyone that made it, playing for some
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  Speaker 4: big prizes like we wanted to be the case and
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  Speaker 4: we executed it and it was fun along the way
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  Speaker 4: fun to track it. But what do you think coming
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  Speaker 4: into the ship at games, the odds were for a
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  Speaker 4: John C to win, because right now it's at twenty
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  Speaker 4: percent like the odds when you take all our customers
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  Speaker 4: into account, like man like, you could have made some
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  Speaker 4: big bucks if you bet heavy on a John C
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  Speaker 4: winning ship at games, because right now it's sitting at
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  Speaker 4: you know, one in five chants, which is wild. But
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  Speaker 4: either way, you know, it's kind of a little joke.
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  Speaker 4: But congratulations to everyone and excited to see who takes
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  Speaker 4: it home.
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  Speaker 2: Now that's what's always funny.
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  Speaker 3: I threw it back up for two seconds, but I
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  Speaker 3: promise you this, this is what's funny, just randomness to
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  Speaker 3: Bill W.
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  Speaker 2: Kde H and Thomas M those three that you see there.
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  Speaker 3: I had a separate email through customer service from three
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  Speaker 3: different of those people being yo, I saw this on
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  Speaker 3: the site?
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  Speaker 2: Is that me?
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  Speaker 3: And it's like we we announced the full name when
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  Speaker 3: we first put it up on the show, and I
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  Speaker 3: was like, no, you can go check it out, but
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  Speaker 3: just for like the other side, I'm not putting full
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  Speaker 3: government always.
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  Speaker 2: We left it out.
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  Speaker 3: But that's the amount of names that we have that
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  Speaker 3: are the same so pretty awesome to see other thing too.
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  Speaker 2: Quick Golf just around the corner I know is mentioned
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  Speaker 2: by Andrew. We want to bring this up. We do
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  Speaker 2: have a big launch show.
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  Speaker 3: It's going to be two Tuesday at two pm Eastern
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  Speaker 3: with Hoop myself and then shout up to our newest
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  Speaker 3: member of the team. We announced that yesterday if you
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  Speaker 3: guys didn't see it, but we've partnered with Vinceeric's Golf,
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  Speaker 3: so they're going to be sort of shutting down and
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  Speaker 3: migrating everybody over to ship at Nation. Already saw a
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  Speaker 3: bunch come over yesterday, but with that news, we're also
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  Speaker 3: bringing the man, Matt Gannon boots on the ground.
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  Speaker 2: So it's pretty exciting.
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  Speaker 3: Matt's going to be going to all of the majors
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  Speaker 3: and ten plus top PGA events. He's going to be
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  Speaker 3: doing the DFS content that he does over for ship
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  Speaker 3: at Nation as well.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be on there with Alex Blickel for Leverage Lane.
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  Speaker 2: We'll have a ton of coverage.
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  Speaker 3: But Hoop myself and Matt will be out on Tuesday
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  Speaker 3: at two pm Eastern and Hoop we.
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  Speaker 2: Might have another big announcement coming as well.
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  Speaker 3: We're working on finalizing something else that's exciting also.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's just really big news around our
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  Speaker 4: PGA offering this year, and we've been working on both
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  Speaker 4: these things in the background for a while. This one's
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  Speaker 4: obviously public now. I'm very excited to have their community
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  Speaker 4: come over, have Matt come over. And he's one of
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  Speaker 4: those you know when you think back to you know,
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  Speaker 4: our late great friend Djen, you know, sweaty, tryhard, Matt
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  Speaker 4: is exactly that, and you know, getting to know him
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  Speaker 4: following his work, the dude is an absolute grinder and
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  Speaker 4: you know, the passion, like that's the main thing with
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  Speaker 4: this stuff. You got to you got to see the passion.
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  Speaker 4: He has big time passion for PGA PGA dfs and
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  Speaker 4: you can see it. I mean, the first time you
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  Speaker 4: see him on our airways here, you're going to realize
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  Speaker 4: that this dude is very, very passionate about about what
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  Speaker 4: he does and that goes a very very long way.
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  Speaker 4: So excited to integrate him and their community over to
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  Speaker 4: a team ship.
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  Speaker 6: It.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the best deal right now.
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  Speaker 3: Just you guys know, we never sugarcoat anything or hide it.
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  Speaker 3: It's expiring January fourteenth, it's right here. It will be
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  Speaker 3: three ninety nine, then going up to four forty nine.
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  Speaker 3: That includes Sabersim. That's where the difference comes in. So
• 8:51
  Speaker 3: if you want the PGA early Bird Special, other sites
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  Speaker 3: are five ninety nine, five hundred, five ninety nine, you
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  Speaker 3: have to go buy an optimizer elsewhere or sixty nine
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  Speaker 3: a month or whatever that is.
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  Speaker 2: This is three forty nine.
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  Speaker 3: With the best optimizer in the business, Sabersim. You get
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  Speaker 3: the Sabersim Optimizer. All of our projections and ownership for
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  Speaker 3: main slate and showdown you get the Stone, which is
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  Speaker 3: the best tool in all of dfs.
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  Speaker 2: You'd be able to check it out.
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  Speaker 3: The course fit rankings are Value Report and then all
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  Speaker 3: the education courses that go with it.
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  Speaker 2: So title, I'll kick it to you. Man, We're about
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  Speaker 2: to get to the football.
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  Speaker 3: But I know you've been dabbling in the PGA streets
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  Speaker 3: and getting into the mix. So what's what's your thoughts
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  Speaker 3: and everything around the corner.
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  Speaker 5: Now, I just know we got the best projections and
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  Speaker 5: ownership out there, which I mean if you played the
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  Speaker 5: FS in any sport, I've listened to content all that
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  Speaker 5: gives you a bigger edge. But finding your process, we
• 9:36
  Speaker 5: preach it a lot. Those are two very important things.
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  Speaker 5: And yeah, I mean you can go around the industry,
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  Speaker 5: a lot of people charge a lot more for, in
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  Speaker 5: my opinion, the worst quality products. So yeah, you'll see
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  Speaker 5: me in the cast streets like always, maybe dabble a
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  Speaker 5: little bit in tournaments, but yeah, huge addition, shout out
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  Speaker 5: to Djen. Never can be replaced. We'll always have the stone,
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  Speaker 5: We'll always have his Djen scorecard. So at like two gloves,
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  Speaker 5: so every Tommy Twoglaz, I don't know if what it is,
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  Speaker 5: but yeah, he took a lot of time to do that.
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  Speaker 5: I mean when he was passing away, like on his
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  Speaker 5: last year, I mean he was still diving in and
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  Speaker 5: grinding for the people. So yeah, nobody wills to be
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  Speaker 5: able to replace him. But we still got a lot
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  Speaker 5: of his stuff. And yeah, very excited for math come over.
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  Speaker 5: We still got NBA, still got NHL. Next thing. You know,
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  Speaker 5: Baseball will be back as well. So yeah, never ends
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  Speaker 5: over here at the Nation.
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  Speaker 3: Shut there a man rio getting the job done last
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  Speaker 3: night too, Condensation Nation with those floors in the NBA streets,
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  Speaker 3: we had a lot of winners that that got there
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  Speaker 3: with that on the line, and so I know he
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  Speaker 3: posted he said we should have. We should see these
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  Speaker 3: slates canceled more often. But yeah, you you couldn't have
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  Speaker 3: said it better yourself. I mean, Djen's actually still got
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  Speaker 3: unreleased notes. Shout out to the big guy in the
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  Speaker 3: in the sky watching down, but he's got more notes
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  Speaker 3: coming from the team that he was putting together right
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  Speaker 3: down to the very end his scorecard and then he
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  Speaker 3: people that don't know many do that are within the community.
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  Speaker 3: But the Stone is the Djen legacy piece like that
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  Speaker 3: came over with Djen.
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  Speaker 2: We freaking loved it.
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  Speaker 3: We said, let's get it on every single We have
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  Speaker 3: it everywhere you go to Showdown. It's there, main slate,
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  Speaker 3: it's there College Football, like literally built a MMA stone
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  Speaker 3: like it just makes your life so much easier, and
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  Speaker 3: most people don't have a lot of time.
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  Speaker 2: So we got the Stowe up just so you guys know,
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  Speaker 2: I'm just showing here.
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  Speaker 3: We're not gonna run it obviously, that's for everybody that
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  Speaker 3: gets in and who is a member. But we are
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  Speaker 3: going to go through starting with the two gamer and title.
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  Speaker 3: I'll go to Hoop first on this, but just come
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  Speaker 3: back to you. But but who, let's do the grand
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  Speaker 3: scheme overview before I come back to title going through
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  Speaker 3: it all.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so we're gonna split up into the slates. So
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  Speaker 4: you know, we have a two game slate here that
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  Speaker 4: we're we're kind of talking about, and we've done these
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  Speaker 4: shows in the past where we have the two game
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  Speaker 4: slates and we've been talking about it leading up to
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  Speaker 4: this point. There's gonna be a lot of these two
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  Speaker 4: I wish it would have been five, honestly, but it's like, okay, whatever,
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  Speaker 4: it's not five. Now we got to deal with and
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  Speaker 4: play a two game and a three game slate, so
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  Speaker 4: it's not like it's gonna change at this point. So
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  Speaker 4: we're dealing with two games slate. We said it. We're
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  Speaker 4: gonna have a lot of smaller slates as we go
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  Speaker 4: into the playoffs and all throughout the playoffs. So we've
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  Speaker 4: already been preparing. We've been you know, thinking strategy, talking
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  Speaker 4: strategy on these smaller slates, and this is you know,
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  Speaker 4: another one. So you look at the slate and the
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  Speaker 4: first thing that pops out to me is the RAMS.
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  Speaker 4: Really big team total. I think a lot of people
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  Speaker 4: are gonna want to load up on the RAMS, and
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  Speaker 4: probably rightfully. So when you go through, you see, they're
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  Speaker 4: gonna be the you know, basically the highest zoned I
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  Speaker 4: think at every position. Matthew Staffor would be the highest zoned. Quarterback,
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  Speaker 4: Kirn Williams is going to be there, you know, probably
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  Speaker 4: him and Josh Jacobs at running back. Very highly owned Puka,
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  Speaker 4: I mean the initial Oh and again this this is
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  Speaker 4: where I really really wish they're going to do the
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  Speaker 4: two in three game slates where they adjust the pricing
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  Speaker 4: a little bit. Puka should be ten K on DraftKings easily.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he should be a ten K player. He's
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  Speaker 4: eighty seven one hundred, and that means he is going
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  Speaker 4: to be in well based on our ownership almost every
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  Speaker 4: single line up, I mean, we have it at eighty
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  Speaker 4: three percent. Looks like Saber has it at ninety. Like
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  Speaker 4: he's going to be massively, massively owned. I wish they
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  Speaker 4: would ad just the pricing based on the slate. If
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  Speaker 4: it's a two game slate, you just got to bump
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  Speaker 4: everyone up. Davante Adams is sixty five hundred.
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  Speaker 6: So let's say you want to make the pivot and say, oh,
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  Speaker 6: I think it's gonna be three two or three touchdowns
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  Speaker 6: to Adams over Puka well, Puka still or Davante is
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  Speaker 6: still probably sixty some percent.
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  Speaker 4: So that is the annoyance. But again we got to
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  Speaker 4: deal with it. So I mean, just back to the
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  Speaker 4: main point. It's going to be the Rams guys that
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  Speaker 4: basically every position that get big chunk of ownership. You know,
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  Speaker 4: at tight end that might be the maybe outlier because
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  Speaker 4: Loveland after the big games, looking like the one that
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  Speaker 4: everyone's going to go. I don't agree with the ownership
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  Speaker 4: I'm seeing. We'll talk about it, don't we get the
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  Speaker 4: tight end, But the main thing is team total for
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  Speaker 4: the Rams, sitting at twenty nine, they're going to be,
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  Speaker 4: you know, massively owned across the board. No one's gonna
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  Speaker 4: want to play Carolina, and then there's gonna be pieces
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  Speaker 4: within Green Bay and Chicago that get a lot of ownership.
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  Speaker 4: So we got to kind of have to navigate through
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  Speaker 4: this and see what we can find. We know a
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  Speaker 4: lot that we have a lot of the information. I
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  Speaker 4: don't think we're waiting on anything injury wise, so it's
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  Speaker 4: pretty clean in that regard. So you know, we'll go through,
• 14:08
  Speaker 4: talk through it and see who we can find here.
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna go to you first. I'll just
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: get a start with it. But you know, I love
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: you always bring it up, and it makes a ton
• 14:15
  Speaker 3: of sense. On these smaller slates, we'll go position by position.
• 14:18
  Speaker 3: Who just gave his Grand Scheme overview usually bring up
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: just in case, but you know, it depends on who's
• 14:22
  Speaker 3: playing where. But any weather or any props we got
• 14:25
  Speaker 3: thro route, but I'll let you kick it off.
• 14:26
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: We've got Stafford at Bryce Young and then we've got
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: Jordan Love at Caleb Williams. Give us your thoughts at
• 14:32
  Speaker 3: this quarterback position. Anything else you want to add first,
• 14:34
  Speaker 3: any of the Grand Scheme stuff.
• 14:35
  Speaker 5: By all means, yeah, it is worth noting for weather.
• 14:38
  Speaker 5: Two yellow Orange games on the six game slate, and
• 14:41
  Speaker 5: that is these two Saturday games. Row said for the
• 14:45
  Speaker 5: Carolina Rams game, good shot at rain ten to fifteen
• 14:49
  Speaker 5: miles in our win, gus at twenty. So I'm not
• 14:51
  Speaker 5: really worried about the win. I guess we'll know like
• 14:54
  Speaker 5: an hour or two before. I mean, if it's downpouring
• 14:57
  Speaker 5: like it kind of was in Tampa, Carolina in the
• 14:59
  Speaker 5: first half, like maybe that's something to note. Green Bay
• 15:02
  Speaker 5: Chicago though a few flurries, win fifteen, maybe up to
• 15:07
  Speaker 5: thirty The thing is you're playing two games through bout
• 15:10
  Speaker 5: Yellow warns like we're talking about, I don't really see
• 15:12
  Speaker 5: too big of a difference unless it looks like huge,
• 15:15
  Speaker 5: huge rainfall in that first game. Totals forty five and
• 15:18
  Speaker 5: a half for the first game Panthers, Rams forty four
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: and a half for Bears Packers, So not much there.
• 15:25
  Speaker 5: And then I always look at just on short slights
• 15:27
  Speaker 5: the onesie positions. Who separates quarterback not really too much
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: Stafford does, but Pryce. Accordingly, Bryce Young will be clearly
• 15:34
  Speaker 5: be the lowest owned tight end Colston Loveland like five
• 15:37
  Speaker 5: points four and a half points clear the next highest projected.
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: That'll lead him to being very popular. And then defense
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: the Rams about three points clear, two and a half
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: of the next highest. So I think you'll see Rams
• 15:50
  Speaker 5: Loveland obviously on top of Puka being very popular. Talking quarterbacks, yeah,
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: like I said, Bryce Young will be clearly the one
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: that's left out. He's only three hundred cheaper than Jordan
• 16:00
  Speaker 5: Love and projects like six or three points less, So
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: it's like a three quarterback slate for many. And I'm
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: I mean, if we're gonna Bryce Young's really gonna be
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: ten percent and it's a two game slate. They're big dogs.
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: He could drop back at the most. When it's all
• 16:15
  Speaker 5: said and done, I'm definitely gonna keep them in my pool.
• 16:17
  Speaker 5: So I'm not gonna be fading any of these quarterbacks.
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: Do.
• 16:20
  Speaker 5: I have a strong lean looking at her ownership. If
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: Stafford is forty percent in the next highest is twenty five,
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: I think I'll just naturally get below the field on him,
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: and then I think it's pretty easy I can get
• 16:31
  Speaker 5: overweight on Love Caleb and Bryce Young and then that'll
• 16:34
  Speaker 5: lead me to some kiro In maybe Korum when we
• 16:38
  Speaker 5: get there. I think when people do play Stafford, I
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: mean like Puka is gonna be the first one that
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: everyone clicks, and then from there it's gonna be I
• 16:46
  Speaker 5: guess there's some options because Higbe's really emerged on top
• 16:49
  Speaker 5: of Parkinson and DeVante's back, so it is pretty I
• 16:53
  Speaker 5: guess spread out if you do want to go that way.
• 16:56
  Speaker 5: But if he's really gonna be forty percent, I'm gonna
• 16:58
  Speaker 5: be eating Puka chalk, Loveland chalk stuff like that. I
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: think I can see pass where it's law of it's
• 17:03
  Speaker 5: Kaleb or even Bryce getting pretty close to Stafford for
• 17:07
  Speaker 5: this nineteen hundred dollars difference. So my plan is I
• 17:10
  Speaker 5: think underweight Stafford the most popular and I can get
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: at least with the field they're overweight on the rest
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: of the three.
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, really fun slate.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: From that perspective, it makes it really easy on how
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: I want to play and just gonna play because I
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: don't care whatever happens happens. The two game are playing
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: to win and the main thing Hoop you said it
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: earlier with the pricing when they don't adjust it, well,
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: it's even worse when they don't adjust it. And the
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: guys that's not adjusted is with the quarterback that's going
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: to be most popular. It all goes together in one,
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: you know, perfect lineup. I've seen so many people post
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: renditions of like your Stafford Pooka lineups like congrats. I'm
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: probably the worst lineup on the slate unless it works,
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: which it could because it's those two. But it's like
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: it's just you're starting with the same stuff everybody else is.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: So for me, I love it.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: You can play Bryce Young opposite side of Stafford perfect.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: If Stafford goes off, usually it's because something pushed him.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Usually it means that the Panthers came along somewhat, but
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: also underweight stance is easy for me on Stafford because
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: I'm just gonna get overweight on the uncertainty of stacking partners.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: No one shits on Jordan Love or Caleb Williams for
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: not being able to be stacked or not being capable
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: quarterbacks on a two game slate.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: What they have problem with and challenge.
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: With, especially if they have limited lineups, is figuring out
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: who it's gonna be with.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Well, got to figure it out. That's his slate for you.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: It's two games. So I love that I'll be able
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: to get probably overweight.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know if that Love ownership will actually be
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: that much, but that's fine. Maybe I'm like underweight Stafford
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: in line with Love, but then overweight on Williams and
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: Bryce Young great two home teams.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Maybe they show up and make it happen.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: So lots of stacking options with those guys and ways
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: to get different. I think Pooka as a one off
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: is still fine anyway, but we'll talk more on that
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: when we move things around. I'm just saying, when you
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: start with that and keep putting, Oh, but I can
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: fit Higbee and I can get Jacobson and I get
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: the perfect running backs. Say yeah, you get the cash lineup,
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: it's awesome, but it's like that lineup is probably not
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: gonna play well in a two game slate with a
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: very top heavy prize pool.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: So hoop, I'll kick it to you. On quarterbacks.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: Obviously the best for the best, but just ways to
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: play it differently is kind of what I was going after.
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it is.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: You know, the overall soft pricing is frustrating because you
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: look at it and Stafford is the guy you want
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: to play. But the fact that you know he's only
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: sixty nine hundred and we have cheap options and everyone's
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: under price, you know he's going to be highly owned.
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: I mean we're showing forty Sabers showing fifty. I think
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: it's probably forty. I mean, people still like to spread
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: out quarterback. People still enjoy it, they want they want
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: to get a little taste of everything. So you know,
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: I think it's probably forty, And yeah, I'll probably be
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: somewhere around it. Like, I definitely want to play them.
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't want to fade them. I mean they're projected
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: to score a ton here, one of few teams that
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: seems like they prefer to pass when they get close
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: to the goal line opposed to run the ball. So
• 19:51
  Speaker 4: I think there's just more touchdown upside and equity. With
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford at quarterbacks, I like him number. I'll just
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: kind of rank you. I think you guys did a
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: good job. I want Stafford number one. Caleb Williams over
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: Jordan Love for me. I do like Jordan Love Love too.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna play Jordan Love for the reason to kind
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: of talk about all season, and especially I think it's
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: even more relevant on these smaller slates or showdown slates
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: where there's so many different ways to play him, where
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: you don't need to be all that worried about, oh,
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: this Jordan Love stack is going to be too popular,
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: blah blah blah. Just so many different guys you can
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: play him with. They you'll see when we get to
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: these other positions, including his his running back as well.
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: So it's gonna be Stafford, it's gonna be Caleb Williams,
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: it's gonna be Love. And this is a slate where
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: I would be willing to maybe just play three and
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: get over it. If you just play three, you can
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: kind of get overweight on all of them. I would
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: be willing to do that. I get the argument for
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: Bryce Young, he's gonna be low the lowest to him
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: for sure. I mean there's no argument like he's definitely
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: gonna be the lowest on quarterback on the slate. He
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: is at home, they are playing from behind. They beat
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: the Rams, you know, earlier in the season. I don't
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: think that's really relevant at all to this conversation, but
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: it just didn't want to point that out. I think,
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: like the Ram obviously you look at it's a ten
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: point spread, like they could crush them, They should crush him.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: I just want to be overweight at least equal with Stafford,
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: I'll say, and then overweight probably like Caleb and Jordan Love,
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: and then maybe just fade Bryce Young. Is how I'm
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: how I'm thinking about it. We'll see though, So Stafford, Caleb,
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: Jordan Love for me, and then maybe a fade of
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: Bryce Young.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll segue it right into running back and my man,
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: Corey into House says underweight on staff overweight on Kiren exactly.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: That's exactly what it is.
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: One thing I'm hoping it may not happen, but and
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: the ownership's not reflecting it, so it's like whatever. But
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: with Kyen, even if he's gonna be high and fine,
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: you can play him with Stafford.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: That's another way you could go. Like if you are
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: playing Stafford.
• 21:49
  Speaker 3: When you are playing Stafford, I should say I like
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: like a Stafford kyn Adams, Parkinson or something like lock
• 21:55
  Speaker 3: up the goal line, like hope to get like a
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: bunch of different stuff. Now it sucks because we'll get
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: to it later, but can't even all the Rams tight ends.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: I think Ferguson might be coming back. I know they've
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: got Davis Allen, who's typically a blocker, but with Ferguson out,
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: he was.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: In there a little bit more. You've got Higbee, Harketson, etc.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: But either way, if you are stacking Stafford, just going
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: back to it for two seconds, I'd really over stack
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: versus just like the Stafford Pooky talked about.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: I'd want to get more in there.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: And I think about it too as like Adams, if
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: he is getting the passes, typically is getting the touchdown
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: passes inside the goal line, that would hurt. Maybe it's
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: like Stafford Adams and a tight end with a Coker
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: run back or something like. That's a different way you
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: could look at it. But my one thing I'll say
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: is I'm wondering title, and then I'll kick to you
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: for running back for the overview.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: And what you're thinking is like, what if.
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: They just don't like MVP's done now right, like gotta
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: win the game, sure, but what if now and they
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: get inside, it's like, all right, let's just run the ball,
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: playoff football, Let's just get the ball roll in that
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: and Stafford doesn't need to throw five touchdowns a game
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: or go after it that way. Not that he wouldn't,
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: because it's still Stafford in the rams, but I'm hoping
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: at least that that's the case and we could see
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: Williams and Korum get a little bit more run. But
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: what's your thoughts at running back and you can kind
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: of start there if you want.
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm kind of hoping. But to be honest, like
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: they they weren't really that great in the red zone
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: after DeVante went out, and man, he is just so
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: elite when he's one on one, like he's forced. I
• 23:10
  Speaker 5: can't remember which game it was before he went out,
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: though they doubled him, like they straight up just put
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: two guys on him in the red zone and then
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: it's more of an empty box and then you run
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: the football that way. So I do still think McVay
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: is gonna put Devonte wide and if it's one on
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: one barbecue chicken slant fade route, and if it's not,
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: then he'll run, which does make the DeVante and we
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: get to receiver if you do want to fade Pooka
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: and go DeVante that route. I think Puka had a
• 23:35
  Speaker 5: pretty bad game against the Panthers when they did lose.
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: He had that insane catch. But yeah, there is pass
• 23:40
  Speaker 5: but running back. I mean, yeah, I said it. I
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: planned on being underweight Stafford probably to get overweight on
• 23:45
  Speaker 5: all of them, and the easiest way to do that
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: is just play Kyron and hope he's the guy. Definitely
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: will be playing a bunch of Hyron. I don't loved
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: three running backs, though, I will say, like I'm skeptical
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: on this Carolina backfield. I think it should be Rico,
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: But I mean we've seen them use Cuba a bunch
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: Props forty five and a half, Rico twenty five and
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: a half Cuba. It eats into each other. What I
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: do know is Kyroen's my favorite. Him and Josh Jacobs,
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: Like I'm planning on now, Josh Jacobs is fully healthy
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: even if he's not. I mean, it's a must win game,
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: like it's a coin flip game, which is pretty nice.
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: You don't see that every day, seven against a two seed.
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: But he leads the slate. Again, we're talking the two game.
• 24:25
  Speaker 5: In rushing attempts eighteen and a half. The next highest
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: is Kyroen at fourteen and a half. Only seventy five
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: and a half rushing prop versus Kyron who's the next
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: highest at sixty five and a half. I just think
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: he has the least amount of competition. In the backfield.
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: Price is very good at six three, So him and
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: Kyroen by far my favorites. After that, I think it's
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: the Chicago backfield I want in Swift and Manongai. I
• 24:49
  Speaker 5: think if the Bears really have the optimal game for
• 24:52
  Speaker 5: Ben Johnson, they're just gonna pound the football as much
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: as they can and play action and give Caleb easy throws.
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: Right now, I think and props thing Swift is the guy,
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: but it is close. So I think Minungui and Swift
• 25:04
  Speaker 5: are very interesting plays in the backups like Koram manung Guy.
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: I don't really like Cuba, but you're getting like we're
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: showing Manungui Swift almost one fourth of the ownership discount.
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: I'm anung Guy Korum versus Kyron, I mean like one
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: tenth of the ownership. So I do I will play
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: on these short slates, some Koram, some Anung Guy. I
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: think when I do that, I want to group them away.
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: But if I'm not mistaken, we just saw kind of
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: a recent slate two of them get there in the
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: same game. That could happen if running back just completely
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: bus for that aspect. So I'm curious to hear you
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: guys take I'm like playing two together, but for me,
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: it's Jacob's Kiren for sure, then Swift and Manungu, I think,
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: but I do not love three running back builds relatives.
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: I think what the field will be.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: Agreed on that for sure, and then I'll kick it
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: to Hoop in a second.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: But just answer you know a couple points you made there,
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: and I'll time man O, don't have too much else
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: to aggas. I mean, we're covering it so well, and
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: we got two slates and said I will say like
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: actually Manunguy, Korum, and Cuba all stand out as in
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: the props of like the ownership's too far of a swing,
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: Like if it's actually sixty to five and that's what
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: you see on Kien to Quorum, then I would actually
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: just I'd be fine if I ended up like slightly
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: underweight on Kiren, and I'll still be underweight on Stafford,
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: but I would still have over the field on Corum.
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: I think he's fine to score. It's a good matchup.
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: What if they do get up and they want to
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: save stuff, Like there's literally a bunch of different ways
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: as it could go, so who knows, but I like
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: that one.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Don't like Cuba as much. But the Manungai one's nuts.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: He's like a fifty something prop to, like a sixty
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: seven or something in some places maybe seventy and others,
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: Like for Swift, that could be anything.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: It's Ben Johnson, it's the Bears.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: You just it could be gamescript independent like with him
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: getting passes, could be it could be anything.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: And if you look at.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: The stone, definitely a higher optimal on Manunguy and also
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: a leverage rate there and it's still a solid enough
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: ownership split, like three and a half or four to one.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: I think that could definitely flip, and the props got
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: it as well, touchdown, props closer, all of that versus
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: the other spot. So I like Korum because of the
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: matchup and how much he leverages pretty much everything. I
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: like Manung Guy because of the other spot. I mean
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: the thing with Jacobs, and I said to the tube
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: of Piece, but the thing with Jacobs Hoop is he's
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: obviously in a really good spot too. The guy's like
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: healthiest he's ever been based on you know, him saying
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: it and the weeks that have got all.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: These different factors.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: But his ownership is gonna be almost seventy because of
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: the sixty three hundred dollars price. People are gonna be
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: on the rams stacks, so of course Jacobs just fits
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: in there. I think it's really good if you can
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: find the lineup where you're leveraging that. And somebody asked
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: earlier about leaving money, that's where you can leave a
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: lot of money. Because I know people go to this
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: stack instead of playing Jacobs, but they Byron and Puka
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: because they can afford it. Now it's like, what if
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: it's just Adams and Korum, Well, it is what it is.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: They could definitely still be that there's only two games
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: on the slate.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: Your thoughts, Yeah, a really good point. So you guys
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: discussed there. I mean, in terms of just looking at
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: like who is the most pure running back play, it's
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: Josh Jacobs. I think it's it's pretty clear like they
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: they definitely were cautious with him down the stretch. They're
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: kind of locked into their playoff spot, you know, two
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: weeks a week early than everyone else, Like they were
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: kind of it seemed pretty obviously they're going to be
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: the seventh seed. They really couldn't move up, and they're
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: just really cautious with him the last two weeks. And
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: you know, he claims he's fully healthy, healthy at he's
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: been all season. I mean, I saw the quote and
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: it reminded me of like the preseason NFL stuff. Oh
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: he came into training camp in the best shape of
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: his life, and you hear that about like half the league, right.
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: For NFL preseasons.
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: I saw the quote kind of reminded me of that,
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: But I think this one might be a little more
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: legitimate because like they they rested him obviously he wasn't
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: super injured, he didn't play a ton. I think he's
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: ready to roll in their favor to win this game.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: I mean essentially coin flip, but a slight favorite mindus
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: like one and a half, and he's clearly better than
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: the other guys. I mean, Wilson had some spots this year,
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: Chris Brooks had some spots. I mean, Wilson definitely has
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: some spots. But Jacobs is their guy. They'll give him
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: as much work as a needs, They'll pass it to him.
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: I think he's great play. Obviously gonna be highly owned,
• 29:05
  Speaker 4: And again it's a product of the shitty freaking pricing
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: that they rolled out here where it's just so easy
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: to play all the studs. It just makes the ownership
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: on these guys like through the roof, and then like
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: the backup guys aren't even that much cheaper. So it's
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: just really unfortunate pricing. And I've already talked about a
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: couple of times, so I'll stop bitching about it. But
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: it's just it really is, like it's just not that
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: hard to do on these two game slates, like take
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: whoever the highest the best guy is on the slate
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: and make him ten cut ten K take whoever the
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: top quarterback is on the slate and make him at
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: least eight K. Take the top running back and make
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: him at least eight K. Like this bullshit where the
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: best guys are sixty three hundred at a position is stupid,
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: but it is what it is. Got to deal with it. So,
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: Josh Jacob, did you want to add something on that.
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: I know, well, it was just John at the bit
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: on one thing and it's just my my twenty twenty
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: six thing I told you, just just thinking about we're
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: all at the same hand, like you said, I agree
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: with you one hundred percent. But one thing I'll say
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: is my thing is to spin that into a positive
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: like I have to. Like at the end of the day,
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: we're all playing the same pricing.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: That could be your edge.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: And that's why when someone said earlier they might not
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: have said. They might have said their lowest lineup was forty.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: Seven point eight.
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: Forty seven point a is a perfect number because guess
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: who's twenty two hundred dollars less, DeVante Adams less than Puka.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: But I wouldn't want to do that because in my
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: previous example, I might want to leave four k based
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: on what they've given me, I have to take it
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: for that side of it. So yeah, I agree with
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: you fully. I just want to add that in is like,
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: we got to work with what we got to work with.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: That's how you can make it work to your advantage.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you definitely have to look into things like that
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: in terms of roster construction stuff. I think Kiren's very
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: again going to be popular, but like if you're not
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: playing the Stafford to Puka stuff like Kyen Williams, I
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: think definitely should be you know, probably probably one of
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: the first clicks in your lineup if you are handbuilding.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: I think he's he's fine in that regard, and then
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: after that, I think it does get a little messy.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: And that's where I'm with you, guys. I want to
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: take advantage of these ownership differences. For sure. You know,
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: Nun guy birth it versus Swift. You're you know, we're
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: showing a thirty percent ownership difference. That's just way too wide.
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: Even Rico to Hubbard, like thirty some percent difference, that's
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: that's way too much. And then Quorum to Kien Williams,
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: like a maybe a fifty percent difference, that's that's way
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: too much. I actually think Quorum is probably my favorite. Like,
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: if Koram is going to come in this low owned,
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: they're projected to score around thirty, so four full touchdowns
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: we've seen all season. They're willing to give him full drive.
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: It's not like he's coming in to just give Kyuen
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: Williams arrest. Like he's coming in and it appears they're saying,
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: this is your drive, do what you can, and he's
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: good and the matchup's good. And I think Quorum, when
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: you factor everything, take everything into account, has to just
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: be a really really good play on this slate at lowan,
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: there's no way the ownership gets much higher. And that's
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: like to leading into like Tambo's point, where you can
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: take advantage of the soft pricing.
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: People are gonna people will look at this.
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: And they're gonna have the thousand dollars to go from
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: Quorum to Kyron Williams, Like why would you why would
• 32:13
  Speaker 4: you play Quorum over Kyroen Williams. Straight up, I can
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: get there easily for the thousand dollars. That's what people
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: are gonna think. Got to force yourself to make those
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: sort of pivots, and that's how you know you can
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: pay it off big on honestly like this where the
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: prize pools are so big making moves like that. But yeah,
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: taking all into account for sure, quorum just has to be,
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: in my eyes, a phenomenal playoff. I'm gonna have a
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: lot of Kien Williams, but Korum I like a ton
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: uh Mnung guy. You know, it's only a five hundred
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: dollars different same thing. People are gonna say, Man, why
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: would I play mcnung guy when I can play the
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: starter DeAndre Swift for five hundred dollars more. Everyone's gonna
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: have the five hundred dollars to go from Mnung guide
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: to Swift if they want, And what are they going to?
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: What is a large majority of the feel gonna do.
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: They're gonna go up to Swift from Guy and get
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: the starter. So this is like you talked about Tambou,
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: the spot where you can take advantage of the soft pricing.
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: I think it's more clear at this running back position
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: than anywhere else because it's so badly miss priced, where
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: the only position that looks somewhat overpriced are the backup
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: running backs or the second running backs on the teams.
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: These are the only guys on the slate, you're going
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: to look at it and say, dang, do I really
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: want to pay fifty two hundred from anung guy? Do
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: I really want to play fifty four hundred for Korum
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: when I can get the starter for just a little
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: bit more, Give me that starter for a little bit
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: more and let's roll with this lineup. So I think
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: this these guys have the chance to be the difference
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: maker on the slate.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: One hundred percent. And no, this was titles question earlier,
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: So I want to clarify the statement now. Definitely would
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: not do that, could be ruling yourself out huge on
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: this slate. We just thought Korum's advantage or possibility. There's
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: multiple ways he can get there alone already has solid props.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: And the Mnunguy swift thing is what hoops at like.
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: It's hilarious because it's only over five hundred dollars, but
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: it could be like a three to one or a
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: four to one split on ownership. All we can do
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: on these slates is again you could delete all the names.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: It's it's all about just building properly.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: Everyone's got takes on who and why and go watch
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: a team by team preview for the week, and they're
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: gonna tell you a bunch of shit be wrong all
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: the time, because again we just don't I don't care
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: like I'm just playing the game.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: And that's it.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: When you get this bad pricing, all you can do
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: is play the game the best with it. Hoop landed
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: it perfectly, That's my point. So if you land on, look,
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: even Stafford lineups we just talked about, they're obviously good
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: for a reason. Look at a streaking price, it's horrible.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: So it's like when you put him a Pooka and
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: all that. Well, someone mentioned in the chat, what if
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: you put Korum in there and it's the passing game
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: that gets them ahead, the running game runs out title seidate.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: This is not probably could be anything. But if it's
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: not a three running back slate, that's because there's not
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: many running backs to beat, that's because there might not
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: be a lot of slate breaking running backs scores.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: So Koram could fit into that. How many Stafford lineups
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: of all of them, of the one hundred percent pool
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: of Stafford lineups, it he's forty percent of those lineups.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: How many have jacobs a ton? How many have Jacobs
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: and swift or maybe putting Kyron into them a ton.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: It's like, once you go to a Stafford Quorum's Menungai lineup,
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: you can do whatever you want. Oh but I got
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: this extra thousand to spend. Okay, don't spend it.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: It's just that simple.
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: Be disciplined, play the game, win the game, get first.
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: That's what you can do, and that type of stuff
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: that can get you there. So title anything else you
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: want to add to follow up? You started us off there,
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: we've kind of hammered it out. Or if not, you
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: could take us into wide receiver.
• 35:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, nothing really there, We'll move to receiver. I'll just
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: go team by team. It makes it easy. Rams could
• 35:35
  Speaker 5: not be any easier. Puka, Davante and forget it, they
• 35:37
  Speaker 5: play a bunch of tight ends. Those are the only
• 35:40
  Speaker 5: two guys I want a piece of. And yeah, I
• 35:42
  Speaker 5: mean Puka is the best receiver in football and DeVante
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: back at sixty five hundred is a great price tag. Again,
• 35:49
  Speaker 5: it's kind of tough because I'm not fading Stafford, but
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: I do plan on being underweight. Puka is an easy
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: one off. That way, you can obviously one off Davante.
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: It feels a little harder in the sense of just
• 36:00
  Speaker 5: so much touch on equity from him, so if he
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: does get two touchdowns, it's not expected to be the
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: highest quarterback scoring slate. So yeah, I mean we'll play
• 36:09
  Speaker 5: some DeVante one us, but I do think I prefer
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: playing Staffer when I play Davante going to the Carolina
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: or stuff. I think it's pretty much only two here.
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: It's tet and it's Cocher at ownership. I like Cocher more.
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: I mean, he gave us or he delivered in a
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: big way last Saturday. It was kind of garbage time
• 36:26
  Speaker 5: at the end. But these guys are going to be
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: trailing a ton. The passing at tenth props are from
• 36:31
  Speaker 5: thirty and a half to thirty three and a half.
• 36:33
  Speaker 5: All four of them are right in the same range.
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: And if you are playing some Bryce Young, I think
• 36:37
  Speaker 5: Coker is an easy one to play. Forty five hundred
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: good value, and that's kind of like Jayden reed Cocher.
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: These guys are cheaper than their backup running backs and
• 36:46
  Speaker 5: project about the same, if not a little better, which
• 36:49
  Speaker 5: is kind of why I prefer their receivers in the
• 36:53
  Speaker 5: in the flex. And also I think probably the field does,
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: but people will still play running back like they always do.
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: Packer stuff a little more difficult for the Packers. But
• 37:02
  Speaker 5: I mean they have three guys, I mean, unfortunately they's
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: guy Golden is irrelevant nowadays, so it's Christian Watson the
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: clear wide receiver one, and then as Jaden Reid and
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: Romeo Dobbs as two and three. If Dots is really
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: gonna be fifteen percent, maybe he's my favorite. He's I mean,
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: he's the one that did it against the Bears two
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: weeks or whatever it was, to go on the Saturday
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: of like seventeen eighteen against Malik Willis. I think all
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: of them are fine, though they're all better with love.
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: I mean, four K is cheap for Reid forty nine hundred, disrespectful,
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: but he's Watson's fifty three hundred, So you do get
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: a little leverage when you play Reed Dobbs. And also
• 37:39
  Speaker 5: if they're the one scoring, Jacob's really chalky, Watson really chalky,
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: that could make you different that way. Last team, the
• 37:47
  Speaker 5: Bears really tough because these guys are rotating more than
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: almost any of the other teams. Because now they got
• 37:54
  Speaker 5: this what's the dude's name here? Let me get it.
• 37:59
  Speaker 5: Walker Yeah, this uh Jahadi Walker guy, he's been playing
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: a little bit. He's actually Walker.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's passed that week when you're like, oh, I
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: know when he shows.
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: Up, trust me. I remember he called he owes me
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: thirty that But was that because of A Donsay being
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: out or do you think he still gets some reps?
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: I mean he overpassed Si Kiyas. Like I I think
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: he's gonna be on the field a little bit. And
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: now I don't think you should play him, but I
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: do think it hurts the Kiyas or it hurts A
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: Dunsay and DJ Moore and even Burden a little bit.
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: Like these guys are rotating, so like I mentioned the
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: Walker stuff, not that I think you should play him
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: by any means, but I do think that they rotate
• 38:41
  Speaker 5: more like Burden does sixty two percent snap fifty eight
• 38:45
  Speaker 5: percent of snaps the last two weeks, obviously in Dunsay
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: is missed. With the Dunsay back in, though Walkers will
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: probably go down to like ten percent, Burden I still
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: think probably sits around the sixty percent mark and DJ
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: Moore is probably the highest. I really don't love they're
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: all low owned so when you're playing with kleb stuff,
• 39:03
  Speaker 5: if you play them instead of Loveland, you definitely get different.
• 39:06
  Speaker 5: But the opportunity for a snowflake is so much higher
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: on these guys, especially when I think they're going to
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: want to run the ball first. Burdens my favorite just
• 39:15
  Speaker 5: because a he's the cheapest, and I just think he's
• 39:17
  Speaker 5: the most talented, big, biggest play upside. But yeah, I'm
• 39:20
  Speaker 5: really curious hear you guys take on the Bears receiving room.
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: I'll start and kick a couple of things over to
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Hoop and let him sort of run with the majority.
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: But you know, this is one another great point. Actually,
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: I think I I'm already saying it early because we're
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: not having got the three games slate. Yeah, but I
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: actually think I like this slate a lot more than
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: the three gamer just for the way it sets up,
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: like everyone thinks they know everything, Like Loveland etch his
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: last game, so he's almost seventy percent. Oh now, it's
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: like that's it's because there's uncertainty with all these other guys.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: But I'm gonna risk that to take it on. So
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: I think you nailed it. I think the call there
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: was good, but I think it hurts Zakias the most,
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: which we already knew, and that doesn't even matter when
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: the other three guys are healthy.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: But it makes it riskier on all of them.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: But they're all more than affordable, and they're another one
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: where you can just spin the rulette wheel. Nobody knows
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: for sure, and I think people are scared of Burden
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: after last game. There's a potent again, not like they're
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: not gonna play him. It's a two game slate, but
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: I'm saying they didn't like that he wasn't involved for
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: as long as he wasn't involved, So it's like, I'll
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: definitely go back to that well, especially.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: When he leverages Loveland, or you could play them with
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Loveland to slice into him. You can play two of
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: these guys. What if it's Caleb three pass catchers and
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: that's what you need with Loveland. We'll get to tight
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: end though later.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: The last thing I'll say, Hoop is you can't spell
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: Blake Korum without Coker, and so I think Jalen Coker,
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: you put those two together in the same lineup, that
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: might be what you end up needing on this slate.
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: But then you also can't think of Cocher without Snowflake,
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: and then you got the possibility for a zero over there.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: He's even got to own the name, So I don't know.
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: Cocker versus Ted feels like a good spot. Adams versus
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: Pooka I think is an obvious one, but it's twenty
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: two hundred. It's just again, it's not that you can't
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: play them both together. Puoka is the best on this slate,
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: but the ownership comes with that. We definitely seen games.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: If Adams gets those two touchdowns, it really could hurt
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: Puka two games or not. And then it's kind of
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: like a good wide receiver rule at wheel as a whole.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: I think because of that, because even on four wide
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: receiver lineups, like Title talking about if you're not going
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: three running backs and most won't and different factors, it's
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: like there's enough randomness on the Packers the Bears alone,
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: and then the Cochers versus the TETs, et cetera on
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: the Panthers that Pooka could still get there with like
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: a twelve, but he also could get left out if
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: Adams beats him hard. And then there's two other guys
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: that pop in there and maybe three. So I don't
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: I like this slate. I think the wide receiver spot
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: makes it interesting as well.
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: What you got here, Yeah, I mean the wide receiver
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: in the first game. I mean, honestly kind of boring.
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, you know, Pooka is a great play, No
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: Davante is a good play. People are gonna play Tet McMillan, McMillan,
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: and then the other guys like Cocer, and you know, sure,
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: play Cocher if you want, if you want. What was
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: your joke about the snowflake thing, like, Yeah.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: When people think of Cocher, they also think snowflakes, and
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: that could be a possibility for sure.
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: And that's very possible. Yeah, the snow flake is possible.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: I think where the slave's probably won or losses with
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: the pass catchers in the second game, the Packers and
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: the Bears, and there's a lot of uncertainty around it
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: and kind of like that. And you know, when when
• 42:10
  Speaker 4: you look at the Packers, Kristina watching Watson at forty
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: nine hundred is going to be very popular. He's been
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: the big play guy. He looks like, you know, wide
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: receiver won there and he's under five k, so everyone's
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: gonna play him. Fine playing Jayden Reid came back, got
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: a lot of attention four a K. I do like
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: him actually quite a bit, uh, you know, regardless of
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: the somewhat high ownership we're showing twenty eight like that's
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: really I mean on two games late twenty eight is
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: and anything crazy. So I do like Reid and then
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: Dobbs as well. I think is a great play at
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: the forty four hundred press, Like he's the one that
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: has he has the big ceiling. We've seen it, and
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: yes they've had injuries, but they still even despite having injuries,
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: they've had like five guys mixing in and out at
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: wide receivers. So he's had big games like him. I
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: think these Bears guys though, could be the difference maker.
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: I mean, because they're all pretty low on, like, no
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: one's getting substantial ownership. The highest owned is Burden and
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: based on that fact him being the highest own, he's
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: probably my least favorite. You know, Rome coming back at
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: fifty eight hundred has to get squeezed a little bit
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: that people haven't seen him in a while when he
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: was healthy. He is the clear wide receiver one. I
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: want to take some chances on him. DJ Moore fifty
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: three hundred, not looking to get a ton of ownership.
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: He's gonna be out there. I want to take some
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: chances on him. And I think a lot of people
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: might be scared of these pass catchers because of the
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: emergence of Loveland last week. So I really like these
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: Bears guys. I think they one of these guys will
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: be the differentiator I think on the on the winner
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: this week, whether it's I'm hoping it's Rome or DJ Moore,
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: because that's the spot I'm going to be looking. And
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: when you start factoring in all these all the uncertainty
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: with the pass catchers for the Bears, I think Caleb
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: kind of ticks up a little bit for him. I
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: already said he was my number two, But in terms
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: of which quarterback I'll have the most leverage on for
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: this two game slate, I think it's gonna be Caleb
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: for the reason of these pass catchers all being pretty
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: low on so uh yeah, it's kind of wide receiver
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: for me.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a nice way to cut into it too,
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: like I said, because I'll stay with the actually hoop on
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: the tight end stuff because we're going to you know,
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: Loveland is super popular there as well.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: But that's what the way to slice into that is.
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: You're like, Okay, either you don't play Loveland and you
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: leverage it via the pass catchers and the nung guys
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: of the world all that, or you can just do
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: what you said and say, I'll roll with Caleb and
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: then let me get some Luther Burden, some o'doonza, and
• 44:34
  Speaker 3: some Loveland and roll it out that way. What's your
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: thoughts on the tight end position with Loveland kind of
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: like Muskrave, Parkinson Tremble or like the four and then
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: there's a bunch of people around that.
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, definitely fine with Loveland here. But it's like, okay,
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: so the guy had I don't know, one good game.
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: Maybe he's had a couple more mixed in there. Now
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: he's going to be sixty maybe sixty five percent own
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: could be higher on the slate. Like, to me, that's
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: just wild. So you know, if that's the case, I
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: can't imagine me personally getting to that number. Let's see,
• 45:08
  Speaker 4: so he had he had the big game last week,
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: guess maybe two weeks in a row where he's had
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: big games outside of that all, you know, nothing crazy
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: in terms of Spike performances. But man, if he's gonna
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: be that high owned, like, I hope it's the case, actually,
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: because it's gonna be easy to get over weight, and
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: I would just go right to those Rams guys. Park
• 45:30
  Speaker 4: I'm hoping Ferguson's out because then it's easy Parkinson and Higbee.
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: Higbee has been hurt, came back, looked really good, six targets,
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: five for ninety one, caught the touchdown. Stafford already has
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: a relationship with him. I think he would be a
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: phenomenal play. Parkinson if he remains tennish person owned, phenomenal
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: play in my eyes. Like those two I think would
• 45:55
  Speaker 4: definitely be my favorites, and there's no reason to think
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: that's not going to be the case in terms of ownership.
• 46:00
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I'll say, hey, B. Parkinson, definitely my favorites.
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: Musgrave I think is fine at twenty six hundred. Again,
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: the salary really doesn't matter, but you can leave big
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: chunks when they need when they're trying to win games.
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: Four targets, six targets, three targets. He's gonna be out
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: there a lot too, So I think Musgrave is a
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: solid play as well. So when you kind of factor
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: everything in. For me, it's the Rams, Guys, Musgrave and
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: then Love one.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a I was looking at my phone here.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: I think there's like lineups you can leave from now
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: what we've talked about. I know we're getting a tight
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: end for title here, but just to note it, like,
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: you can leave fifty one hundred. I just did, like
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: and in just a quick thought of something we ran
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: through and people can find find that one good for you.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, like, I just running through quickly
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: to see what that would look like. And you can
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: leave some big money on the table here if you
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: agree with some of the stuff and just ways to
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: build so title, I'll kick it to you on tight end.
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: I thought, who broke it down pretty well? But what
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: else do you got with this one?
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 46:58
  Speaker 5: If I differ a little, if Loveland sixty percent, I
• 47:01
  Speaker 5: probably want like seventy five eighty. I just think he
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: separates the position so much. I mean, you look at
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: props in the receiving receiving yards for the Bears, Loveland's
• 47:10
  Speaker 5: forty six and a half leads the room that it's
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: burdened forty and a half at Dunesday thirty five and
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: a half, DJ Moore twenty six and a half. And
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: a lot of that has to do with they're running
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: Comet Loveland like eighty five percent of the time two
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: tight end sets, because again I think they want to
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: pound the football and off of play action. I think
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: it's clear that Loveland's probably his favorite target. So I
• 47:32
  Speaker 5: just the position is so weak, like Muskgrave two weeks
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: ago in a big game, like Wiley out snapped him
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: almost two to one. It is a blocking tight end,
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: but they have Reed, they have Dobs, they have Watson.
• 47:44
  Speaker 5: Like now that these guys are fully healthy out there,
• 47:46
  Speaker 5: I'm worried that Muskrave just falls down the pecking order.
• 47:49
  Speaker 5: Higby would be my second favorite. He came back and yeah,
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: he looked pretty solid. Stafford does like his tight ends.
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: Parkinson Higbee are my two to three favorites. But I
• 48:00
  Speaker 5: mean it's still Devonte Puca Kyrien, Like there's still fourth
• 48:04
  Speaker 5: or fifth in the pecking order. At least Lovelin in
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: my opinion, he's first. When they do pass it, Tremble
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: he can he can get a touchdown like we saw,
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: but if he doesn't get a touchdown, he's drawn very
• 48:15
  Speaker 5: thin from the for the optimal Kolkam that he's out
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: there a bunch. Like I said, they're running two tight
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: end sets, so maybe I go into that a little bit.
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: But yeah, he's way down there in the list as
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: well tight ends weak. Can you play two tight ends?
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: Someone asks, Yeah, I will not have many lineups like that.
• 48:32
  Speaker 5: Loveland's very chalky, so when you play him you have
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: to get different somewhere. But I think he's just the
• 48:36
  Speaker 5: clear best at the position.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Trum had a huge game last game with three catches,
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: four targets, a touchdown and hits twelve points. Yeah, Loveland
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: could have a very bad game here and have like
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: five catches, but with the yardage workout to that or
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: more and like it won't even kill you. So yeah,
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: that's where I think that's okay. I just I liked
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: sort of how Hoop was mentioning when you could really
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: slice into him as when you say, I'm not just
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: gonna go with the safety of Williams, Caleb Williams that is,
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: and Colston Loveland, I'm gonna say, give me some rome,
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: give me some burden, let me figure this stuff out,
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: and maybe less rams than everybody else. And so on
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: and so forth, and that's where you take on the
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: slate just from a different perspective. So I like that
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: call out quite a bit. And then yeah, you nailed it.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: Like it's pretty weak across the board at tight end.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: So if you do just want to take the Loveland
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: and like I said, if Tremble has that big game
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: for twelve points, a small game is gonna be really bad.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: But a small game for Loveland can be just as good.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: And it's like, yeah, the sixty percent guy got there,
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: but that's what you needed and he was very easily affordable,
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: and it's forty four hundred bucks, so that's part of
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: it as well.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: So love that call out.
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: Anything on the defensive title that you want to add,
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: or anything else on roster construction as a whole, just
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: shaping up the entire slate from what we talked about here.
• 49:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's clear the Rams will be like in a
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: tier of their own, probably fifty percent. That's so we
• 49:50
  Speaker 5: have it at defense, and the Panthers will be very
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: low owned. I mean they're two k and the next
• 49:56
  Speaker 5: is twenty five hundred. So I guess if you play
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: Panthers and the base score four points but everyone else
• 50:01
  Speaker 5: scores like seven or less. Maybe that's enough. I don't know.
• 50:04
  Speaker 5: I think it's pretty clear for me. Panthers of the least.
• 50:07
  Speaker 5: I think that the Rams can move the ball at
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: will even in their loss, like it wasn't because the
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: Rams offense. They just couldn't stop the Panthers. So Rams
• 50:15
  Speaker 5: bears packers. I mean, maybe I even x the Panthers out.
• 50:18
  Speaker 5: I don't love doing that at a very high variance position,
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: but it feels pretty thin for me to see the
• 50:24
  Speaker 5: Panthers stopping the Rams or doing anything that way. But yeah, no,
• 50:27
  Speaker 5: it's the onesie positions. It's Loveland Rams. So when you
• 50:31
  Speaker 5: do start your teams with Loveland and Rams and Puka,
• 50:34
  Speaker 5: you better maybe do something different after that. Yeah, hoop.
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: Any final thoughts, defense, anything else you want to add
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: to the two gamer before we move on.
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: I agree with defense, Like I might just x out
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: the Panthers. Rams clearly going to be the highest stone.
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: It's easy to play it. There's no salary restrictions to
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: prevent you from playing the Rams. Yeah, I'll have a
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: lot of the Rams and it potentially fade the Panthers
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: and have probably something similar maybe on the packers and bearers,
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: maybe a little more packers, maybe Caleb Williams a little
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: more turnover prone. I don't know. It's a toss up
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: though at the defense for sure.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And if you play some of the way we
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: talked about, like leaving all that salary and stuff like,
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: then it's like, again people always wonder off, but the
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: rams are chalk, and then.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: It's always about that.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: Either if you already got five grand left on the table,
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: then definitely you can play the rams. It's like, why
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: would it matter at that point? If they get there,
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: it's does the rest of your stuff go that way
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: for you? I just got the notification from Discord everything
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: is updated again going into tomorrow's slate, So just noting
• 51:31
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• 51:33
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• 51:35
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• 52:05
  Speaker 2: All right, let's move on to.
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: The three games slate, and we're gonna be splitting this
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: video up like we talked about, so we'll start off here.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: But we've got title got Hoop here.
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: With me is always going to be breaking down all
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: things for the three games Sunday slate on DraftKings. We've
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: got the Bills at the Jags, We've got the forty
• 52:21
  Speaker 3: nine ers at the Eagles, we've got the Chargers at
• 52:24
  Speaker 3: the Patriots.
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: Title Hoop Hoop.
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: I'll bring you in first man, talk to us a
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: little bit about this three game slate, give us your
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: grand scheme overview, and then we'll hop right into it.
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean two versus three games. I mean, I
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: think it does make quite a bit of a difference
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: in terms of in terms of strategy and like overall
• 52:44
  Speaker 4: ownership and that sort of thing. Just looking at this,
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: like right out of the gate, the first thing that
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: stands out to me when you look at the quarterback
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: position is you have i'd say six viable quarterbacks. That
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: six quarterbacks that people are gonna look and say, yeah,
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: I can play this guy. Josh Allen, Drake May, Jalen Hurts,
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: Trevor Lawrence, Justin, Herbert brock Perty. I'll take all the
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: matchups out of the equation, Like maybe you don't like
• 53:11
  Speaker 4: somebody's matchup. If you just look at these names, you're
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: gonna say, yeah, I can play all six of these
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: guys at quarterbacks. So the first thing that stands out
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: to me is quarterback definitely going to be spread out
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: a little bit. You get to the running back position.
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: Most these teams have running backs. The you're gonna feel
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: pretty comfortable playing. I just have it kind of sorted
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: by salary. Christian McCaffrey, Yeah, we can play him, James
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: Cook yep, Saquon Barkley yep etn. Yes. The one situation
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: we're kind of waiting on is the Chargers with Hampton.
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: I think the last report was he was seen practicing.
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: I'm sure when you are watching this, it's gonna be
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: a little later. Might already have the information, got Trayvon Henderson,
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: Ramandre Stevenson. So you got a lot of running backs,
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: so you can play same thing with wide receiver. You
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: go to wide receiver, there's going to be a lot
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: of guys from all the teams on the slate that
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: you want to play. And then tight end maybe a
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: little more dicey, but I mean each position you go to,
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: each team really you go to, you're gonna find options,
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: options that you like, i'd say, at each and every position.
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: So in terms of like a three game slate, I
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: think it's solid from the standpoint of we have the
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: chance to probably get some things spread out a little bit,
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: and I think that's good where where ownership spread out.
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: So yeah, excited to kind of talk through it all.
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: But especially the quarterback position. We know it already gets
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: spread out, but you have these six names on the slate,
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: it's definitely going to get spread out.
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and just got the hand they have the news
• 54:46
  Speaker 3: actually updated forty nine minutes ago, so it's you know,
• 54:48
  Speaker 3: this is again later Friday afternoon, recording this, but just
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: noting it. He was a DMP Wednesday and Thursday, and
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: then sported a brace on his right ankle during warm
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: ups on Friday, so they said, still, you know, step
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: in the right direction, but we won't know until ahead
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: of Sunday night's playoff openers. So interesting to see, but
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: no practice Wednesday, Thursday, and then on Friday, still sporting
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: a brace.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: So we'll go from there. Title.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: Did you have anything to add to the grand scheme overview?
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: I think I Hope made a good point, especially around
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: the quarterbacks. This is one where pretty much everybody looks live. Obviously,
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: ownership will reflect that it's pretty balanced out, but I
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: definitely agree on that. Anything else you want to add,
• 55:23
  Speaker 3: just three really good games here overall, I think.
• 55:25
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what stood out to me. Three hell of
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: football games. I mean I love seeing seven to two seeds.
• 55:30
  Speaker 5: I mean the Packers are favored slightly and then only
• 55:33
  Speaker 5: three and a half point dogs are the Chargers. The
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: only game that we had to worry about, like that's
• 55:37
  Speaker 5: a big spread is Rams Panthers. So I three competitive games,
• 55:41
  Speaker 5: three really good football teams, three quarterbacks that we like
• 55:44
  Speaker 5: to play on a lot of main slates, a lot
• 55:46
  Speaker 5: of great great running backs, wide receivers, the tight end
• 55:50
  Speaker 5: position strong. So yeah, if you're listening to yesterday's two
• 55:53
  Speaker 5: games slate and then you listen to this on Sunday
• 55:56
  Speaker 5: morning or whatever, it's a completely different slate. Ownership obviously
• 56:00
  Speaker 5: is important on a three game slate, but it'll be
• 56:02
  Speaker 5: spread out so much more than the two gamer So yeah,
• 56:06
  Speaker 5: you can easily bid built fifty k lineups. Just do
• 56:09
  Speaker 5: something maybe a little different, and yeah, you won't be dupe.
• 56:12
  Speaker 5: So I think that's a very elite, elite elite slate
• 56:15
  Speaker 5: and elite games. I'm pumped to set on my couch
• 56:18
  Speaker 5: and watch football all day long with mass surprise Bools.
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, hopefully you're watching this on Sunday morning. I want
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: all the money yesterday. That would be phenomenal, But we
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: recording in advance, so you know that's the case. But yeah,
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: I like the slate. I think it's interesting, a lot
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: of good real life games. But then you know, for
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: fantasy sports, it makes it a little bit tricky when
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: you're like, Okay, Drake May with who, or can I
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: go to the Herbert side brock perty with who obviously
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: waiting on piercel there and stuff like that.
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: So hoop, I'll start with you let's go to the
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: quarterback position.
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: You hinted at it early and you said that we
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: can kind of play any of these guys. What sort
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: of ranking system are you putting on these guys if
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: you're looking at it from that perspective, being that they're
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: all kind of in play.
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: That is kind of tough. I mean, you look at
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: it and I think you're gonna have like two groups
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: basically here, You're gonna have four guys that I think
• 57:05
  Speaker 4: get solid ownership, and then I think two guys that
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: get a little loss. Josh Allen, Drake, May Hurts, Trevor
• 57:12
  Speaker 4: Lawrence I think are going to be the four that
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: get a majority of the ownership. People are gonna like
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: those guys. I think Purty and Justin Herbert are going
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: to get less than that group of four. So, just
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: talking in that first group of four, what kind of
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: stands out. I think people are gonna really like that
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: Buffalo Jacksonville game, regardless of the position. So we're talking
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: about quarterback here, but you got the game sitting at
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: a total of fifty two ish, which is basically a
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: touchdown more than everyone else on the slate. So I think,
• 57:46
  Speaker 4: assuming I haven't really looked deep into the salaries. We'll
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: talk about it when we go to the other positions.
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: But again, Josh Allen seven k just way too cheap.
• 57:54
  Speaker 4: He will probably run it even more in the playoffs.
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: So he's the guy that I think people will a
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: fault to. And it makes a lot of sense. Trevor
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: Lawrence in that same game sixty one hundred, like that's
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: a game people are gonna want to get to. I
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: think those two guys get quite a bit, Drake May
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: and then Jalen Hurts. Honestly, for me, it's a tough
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: slate to really differentiate these guys. I think this slatee
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: is definitely going to be more about, you know, roster construction.
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: Are you focusing in on a game? Are you game stacking?
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: It's tough for me. So I don't know, looking at
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: those ones, those those main quarterbacks, I'm gonna play them
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: all those four, it's just a matter of, you know what,
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: what what I do with the rest of my lineup?
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: And then like Purdy and Herbert, I don't know.
• 58:42
  Speaker 5: I mean, I guess like.
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: The party stuff is somewhat concerning what we saw how
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: they played against Seattle, like they could not do anything offensively.
• 58:52
  Speaker 4: Was Philadelphia able to pick up on something that the
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: that Seattle did in that game, because I mean the
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: sam for offense was totally ineffective. They couldn't do anything.
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: And that game has definitely moved in favor of Philadelphia.
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: Philadelphia likes that. I mean, if Philadelphia can win a nasty,
• 59:12
  Speaker 4: low scoring, grinded out game with Jalen Hurtz and Saquon
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: Barkley kind of jam and the football, they will. So
• 59:19
  Speaker 4: I think Purdy's probably my least favorite. He's probably going
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: to be the lowest owned, so that's not like anything
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: crazy to say. I will say, though, I think I
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: do like Herbert more than the field. Though Herbert's coming
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: in pretty low. Saber has it at eight, we have
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: it at twelve. You know, split the difference like right
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: around ten percent. That's probably the case, but Herbert has
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: all his weapons. If Hampton is banged up, do they
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: throw it a little bit more? Herbert will run on
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: his own. I think Herbert is definitely an interesting play
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: on the slate, probably coming in fifth, I would say
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: in ownership, I think that game has a chance for
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: some back and forth. Like yes, Buffalo Jacksonville looks solid
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: in terms of game scoring environment. I think I think
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: Chargers Patriots has a chance to be right there with
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: them in terms of game scoring environment. Yes, the Patriots
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 4: have looked good. Their defenses look good at times, but
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: they have gotten into some shootouts as well and given
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: up a lot of points and a lot of big plays.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: So I think Herbert is a guy I'll be looking
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: at for sure on the slight probably around ten percent.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: But man, you have six guys that you can definitely,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, you can make the case for Party for
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 4: sure if you wanted to. Scares me a little bit though,
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: Like that's the game that definitely scares me on the
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: slate because I know how the Eagles will want to
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 4: win it, and they might have the ability to win
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: it that way in a nasty fashion if they want.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: So that does scare me a little bit. So maybe
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: a little lower on Party, maybe even a little lower
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: on on Hurts potentially. But you got six solid quarterbacks here.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Title, I'll kick it over to you. I mean,
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: this is funny because I think it's true. As a
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 3: Chargers fan, I don't know what to expect. And Gokalk says, yeah,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: low Ki, the Pats haven't beaten any good teams. I
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: think that's going to be said until they prove everybody
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: wrong on the Pats and.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: What's the other one, the Broncos.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 3: The Broncos of like the schedule anyway, if you look
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 3: at the strength of schedule, it's obviously very weak versus
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 3: the rest.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: But if you look at a team schedule like that's
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 4: like the NFL. I mean, there's a lot of bad
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 4: teams and you look at people's wins and losses and
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: you're probably not gonna have many solid wins for any
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: individual team that you look at. I mean, it's a
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 4: tough league. There's a lot of parody, and the good
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: teams just kind of beat up on the bad ones.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: So that's how it goes.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: And also it's like it's same as we talk about
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: with a slate, like what do you want them to do?
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: They can only beat what's put in front of them.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: They get the schedule given to them, they go and
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: play it, they play to their best, and that's what happens. Obviously,
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: things can happen down the stretch, but it can go
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: the other way too. You can see a team that's
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: been kind of bad all season That's why I'll say this.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 3: I'm over at trust me. I don't give a shit
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: at all. But like the Ravens, they had their chances.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: They started with a very tough schedule. It didn't go well,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: they had injuries, but they knew they had the back
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: half of the season. We talked about at one point
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 3: where there was capability at least to run the table.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: Obviously when you don't have Lamar and things like that,
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: things Matt, But yeah, overall, you know, teams can go
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: on a run and get hot, and other teams can
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: win games, doesn't matter who they are beating and still
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 3: keep that level and that confidence and roll through because
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: of that. So there's definitely opportunity. Your title go to
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 3: you on that stuff. A quarterback as a whole, what
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: sort of your thoughts on the position for this three
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: game slate?
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree with a lot of what Hoop said.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: Perty is my least favorite, just in the sense of
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 5: the matchup is really difficult, and we just saw him
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 5: struggle with a really difficult matchup last time. Eagles are
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: the best defense on the slate. San Frans applied for
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 5: the lowest They're going into going across the country to
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 5: play the Eagles. I think it's a tough spot for him,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 5: but again it's we've played them a lot this year.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 5: You can make a case for all of them. My
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 5: clear favorites are Lawrence, Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts, Trevor Lawrence.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 5: I just expect them to be a very pass happy
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 5: team like they have been under Liam Cohen. They're applied
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 5: for twenty six points. The nice thing about him is
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 5: his weapons will be owned, but he has so many
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 5: weapons that when you play him, pick two or three
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 5: of Range Washington, Brian Thomas, Jacobi like, people will be
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 5: doing the same and mixing and matching them. So if
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 5: you do get the right combination, even though they will
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 5: all have ownership, it'll be a lot more it'll be
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 5: easy to get different or just other people will get
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 5: it wrong because there's so many ways to go. Josh
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: Allen not the same to be said about him when
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 5: people click him. I think Shakir or Kinkaid will be
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 5: very popular. However, his I mean, he's just he has
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 5: to be superman for this team. He has no one
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 5: on the outside. Maybe you can play Shavers to get
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 5: a little different. Maybe you can just play him to
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 5: James Cook and hope it's all done through the ground.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 5: He just has so much upside. If they do win
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 5: this game, which is a coin flip, it's gonna be
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 5: on Josh Allen's back. Jalen Hurts is my third. A
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 5: lot of that, again has to do with it's so condensed.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 5: When I play Hurts, I can play two of Smith,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: Brown Goddard and I don't have to worry about something
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: like when I do with Herbert. Is it Keenan, is
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 5: it McConkie, is it Gadson? Is it QJ? Which again
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 5: you can make appeal for the ownership sense, but it's
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 5: a lot easier to be buried if you get just
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 5: one part wrong and you have the tush push equity
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 5: with Jalen Hurts, which I always like, and then you
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 5: can go fifty. It's easier to fade him when you
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 5: go Jalen Hurts and just tell yourself a story that
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 5: is him through the air, him getting the rushing touchdowns
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 5: instead of Saquon and san Fran is by far, in
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 5: my opinion, the worst defense on this slate versus all
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 5: of them. So those are my three favorites. After that,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 5: I don't know, probably at ownership. If Herbert's half the
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 5: half his own is Drake May, I probably go to him.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: I feel not strongly, but I think this is a
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 5: competitive game. I think the Chargers do win it when
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 5: it's all said and done. I think the biggest thing
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 5: for the Chargers is their offensive line struggles when they
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: play the Broncos, the Texans. When these defenses can pin
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 5: their ears back, he struggles. The Pats don't really have
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 5: a great pass rush. When Herbert has time, He's as
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 5: elite as anyone is in my opinion. Again, the problem,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 5: the hard part about him is is it QJ? And
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 5: is it Trey Harris? Now, Like, there's so many options,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 5: But that's good if you get it right, because the
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: ownership will be so low and it's easy to eat
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 5: a lot of chalk around it. So if I'm ranking them,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 5: it's Trevor one, Josh Allen two, Hurts three, Herbert four,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 5: Drake May five, Party six. I'm definitely gonna be playing
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 5: a lot of teams on this late so I probably
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 5: will play all six of them. But yeah, that's how
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 5: I have it ranked.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, two things he said.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: One obviously like the pass happy of the Bills versus
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: the Jags and how that could play out. I think
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: that's gonna be part of it. People have been super
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 3: high on Lawrence for quite some time. I know, once again,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: we'll see how it all shakes out, because Hurts is
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 3: right there at the similar price point, like a bunch
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: of them are so close. But I do think people
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: because they're uncomfortable with trying to pair up Josh Allen,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: a lot of people look at it like, well, why
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: not just go with the Lawrence side of that game instead?
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: And then you talked about like condensed offenses like Jalen Hurts,
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: AJ Brown, DeVonta Smith putting them all together, that one
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: seems a little more appealing to me, just because I
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: actually think the ownership of I know it looks already
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: high on Saquon, but I think it could rise a
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: little bit as well. At just seven K as people
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: are looking for this late's a little bit different than
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 3: what the two gamer was on Saturday because more games,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: more options, more stacks, et cetera. But you can kind
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: of you can spend the money quite easily, so you
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: might be in a spot where.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: You need that fifteen hundred bucks or that twelve or whatever.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: The price difference ends up being four hundred bucks or
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 3: whatever it is from James Cook Dannick Barkley, so I
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: could see more getting to Barkley and if you go
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 3: Hurtz Brown Smith, see what Goddard does. We'll get update
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: on that, but I expect him to go so it'll
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: be that type of setup where it could be good.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: Another thing I just saw pop up was in the.
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: Patriots side of things. Kashawan Boody is now questionable got
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: a hamstring, so we'll have to wait and see on
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: that information as well. We'll obviously cover all the positions,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: but just noting it.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: But I'm in agree with you guys.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: I think the one thing that is interesting is like
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: just going to the Herbert stack. You guys talked about
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: that plenty, so I'm not gonna rehash, but that one
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: stands out, but probably like that Hurts and then go
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: from there Drake May. I mean, you stack them up,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: Harve you want, but it gets tricky because which guy
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: is it. Obviously if we get Booty news, that could
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 3: be a little bit different and be able to go
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: from there.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: But running back hoop kick it back to you James
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: Cook ETM. Barkley McCaffrey. We're waiting on Hampton and then
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: you got the running backs and Patriots.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: Can you just play them both again? Isn't that the
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: way we do it now? You just plug them both him?
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 3: But what's your thoughts on this running back position?
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no need the Hampton news. And again, when you're
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 4: watching this, the Hampton News might already be out there
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: if I actually literally just popped up in my phone
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: officially listed as questionable, so we might not have it
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 4: until Sunday. So it depends on when you're watching this.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 4: But you know, if he's out, then Vidal becomes a play.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: We don't have that news, so gonna kind of just
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 4: leave that one on the table for now. But my
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 4: clear favorite play.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 7: At running back, and I'm gonna say it's not even
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 7: particularly close. I think Saquon Barkley is the top play.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 7: And you know, obviously he's gonna beyond I mean, it's
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 7: a three game slap. It's not like he's gonna be
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 7: like low owned or anything. But I think Saquon Barkley
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 7: is a phenomenal play. The Samfra defense looks really bad.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 7: I mean, two weeks ago, the Bears absolutely slaughtered them
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 7: and then last week, Charbonney and Kenneth Walker both went off.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 7: I mean, if you watch the game, they're getting eight
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 7: to nine yards of carry with ease, like not even
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 7: being touched.
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  Speaker 4: So I think that the Eagles are gonna choose to to,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: you know, ride Saquon if they can't, Like, if it's
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: gonna work, They're gonna keep feeding him the freaking ball.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 4: So love Saquon. Christian McCaffrey. I mean, it doesn't matter
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: the matchup or anything. You can always play Christian McCaffrey. Like,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: they can get their ass kicked in this game. The
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: forty nine ers can get their ass kicked, and he
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: can still get you thirty Fantasy points. He can get
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 4: twelve catches. Like, it depends are they do they just
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 4: do they get a lead and they just give up
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 4: those little dump offs to McCaffrey. That could be the case.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: So even if you think the Eagles beat the Niners here,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: you still have to consider McCaffrey because he can get
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 4: there again if they get their as kicked, and then
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 4: if they do somehow win, a lot of times it
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 4: comes to him. If it's a close game, it goes
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 4: through him. So you can always play McCaffrey. I think
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 4: he's fine, gonna play a lot of him. You know,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: James Cook great play. I think on non Josh Allen teams.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 4: You know, it seems like when they do have success,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: it's one or the other that has the big game.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 4: Et N is their clear running back. Fine there. The
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 4: interesting one is definitely the Patriots. What do you do
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: with those guys? They're both going to be involved, you know,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: and I think in order for them to get there together,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 4: obviously you're gonna need a very high scoring game, So
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 4: you know, you probably got to pick and choose which one.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: I think they both have some degree of upset, but
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 4: it is hard when you start looking at some of
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: those other guys where you know they're getting all the work,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 4: Like Saquon is gonna get all the work, Etn is
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: gonna get all the work. McCaffrey's gonna get all the work.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: And I think it is going to be a split
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: between Henderson and Stevenson and Fine playing him individually, I don't.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: I definitely don't think i'd play him together on the slate,
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: but yeah, just to put a bow on it, like
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: for me, it's it's definitely say Quon one and I
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 4: really really like him. When you factor everything in again,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: he's gonna be owned. It's not like it's a low
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 4: long play. It's a three game slate. He's gonna get
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 4: a lot of ownership. McCaffrey can always play. So I
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: think you know strong running back pool here for sure,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: but Sequon's at the top for me.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's no secret.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 3: Like I love the Seattle point that you just brought
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: up to because I remember watching that game live, having
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: you know, the Walker play and watching Sharbone steal up
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: and then Walker still had a pretty good game too,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: so it's like, yeah, they they were just doing everything
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: and it was on sample size like sixteen and seventeen carries.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 3: I just to go look it up just to get
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 3: my numbers right. It was almost five per carry for
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 3: sharbon Ay. It was six point one per carry for
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: Kenneth Walker. This is on solid sample like get almost
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: twenty carries a piece and hitting these numbers against this defense,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: I think the Saquon piece will pick up steam for
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: good reason, but you mentioned already it makes sense. So
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 3: that's how I kind of like those hurt stacks too,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 3: because if they get up and they actually score, I
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 3: could see them being a team that puts up those points.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: Just circling back before I go to you title on
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: running backs, I don't have much else to add. I'm
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 3: gonna be focused on ETN JR, James Cook, CMC, and
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 3: then looking at these other spots. But the Patriots side
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 3: of things too, if they struggle, it could be and
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 3: Booty's out too.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: We just got that news. Like I said, have any
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: like if.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: They struggle through the air, that could be good for
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: like you know, going away from May and some of
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 3: that stuff. And it does still kind of hurt the
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: running backs too, So that would kind of just hurt
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: everything for me in that Patriots game. Maybe some Hunter
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 3: Henry or whatever it might be. But man, that could
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 3: be a bit of an issue for them, at least
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: when I'm looking at my overall builds or for those
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: that are out there handbuilding or thinking about it. I
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: don't think if I was off Drake May then I
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 3: would just automatically be plugging in Henderson or Stevenson. I
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: still see a ton of different options that aren't splits
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 3: that could break the slate. They could still have, you know,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 3: ceiling type scores that you don't need those guys. So again,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 3: I don't think they're getting a ton of ownership, but
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: that could be one thing on this slate. What's your
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: thoughts there and the rest of the running back position.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the Patriots are tough for me. They fall down
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 5: the list. Etn's my favor for sure at sixty six
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 5: hundred because who's priced around him. Hampton's sixty two hundred.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 5: Who even knows if he plays? And I do agree
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 5: with go collect, assuming this is what he's saying. If
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 5: Hampton's out, I do boo boost justin Herbert. I do
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 5: think they probably have more pass attempts that do. We
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 5: just get the.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 2: News, get an update Omary o'murray.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: And Hampton said he plans to play, So again that's
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: him saying it.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: Who knows. But it's like if he's already braced, I
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: mean he's got a brace.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: Maybe he's out there on Friday at the practice and
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: they're they're getting him in the mix and he has
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: till Sunday night. That sounds like he's ready to go.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: Just to give you more insight, I thought I would
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 3: add that.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's it's a do or die game.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 5: If these guys can play they're they're gonna play, so
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 5: we're gonna talk like Hampton's in, which makes I don't
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 5: love Hampton and a dollar my least favorites. I guess
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 5: like I do expect Vidal to eat into Sama Hampton's work.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 5: He's forty seven hundred, which is interesting, but the opportunity
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 5: costs that running back gets very strong. So those the
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 5: Chargers are definitely my least favorite, and the Pats are
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 5: my Pats, and James Cooks my second least favorite. So
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 5: ETM for sure at sixty six hundred, I like him
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 5: more than Trey Bon who's sick, Hampton, who is sixty
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 5: two hundred. And I think it's really easy you could save.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 5: You could go mccalff or he go Saquon, go down
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 5: to ETN. You go McCaffrey, ETN, James Cook, ETN and
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 5: leave the money and get different that way, which is
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 5: always nice. Why James Cook, I think is my least
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 5: favorite of ETM, McCaffrey, Saquon is I just think the
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 5: Jaggs understand that, like make someone on the outside beat you.
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 5: These dudes are so bad out there. Stack the box.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 5: Don't let Josh Allen beat you. Don't let James Cook
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 5: beat you. If these guys just can win on one
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 5: on one coverage, maybe they have to adjust that way. Obviously,
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 5: these guys are McCaffrey, Saquon Cok. We're talking about the
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 5: best running backs in the league. It wouldn't be shocked
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 5: if James Cook gets there. But I get saque against
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 5: an awful forty nine Ers defense at home, and I
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 5: get McCaffrey, who's just the man who can get it
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 5: done in any single They could be down twenty one
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 5: at halftime, and he could have twenty eight when it's
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 5: all said and done with his pass catching up side
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 5: and all of that. So et is my favorite at
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 5: the price. I agree with Hoop. Saquon would be up
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 5: there probably number two. Then it's McCaffrey for me, and
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 5: then I don't know, James Cook and Traveon Henderson are
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 5: pretty close. I don't have a strong lean on Trayon
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 5: Ramandre at the end of the day, just due to
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 5: the fumble concerns from Andre's head in the past, and
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 5: Trayveon's just big play upside. I know Stevenson's got it
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 5: done in the passing game recently, but I will or
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 5: I'll side with Trayyon, but who knows. I mean, it's
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 5: a rookie like Rabel. He doesn't probably know what he's
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 5: gonna do come game time on Sunday, So I don't
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 5: know either. And that's why them and the Charger situation
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 5: falls down the list because you're guessing on unknowns and
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 5: even if you get the right seventy thirty split on someone,
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 5: it doesn't mean that they're gonna perform. So yeah, that's
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 5: how I got running.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 4: Bit.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like that. And the only thing two is
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: like Josh Allen kee a little greedy in.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 3: The playoffs, So not saying it'll come true, but it's
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 3: like if he gets up to that line, could easily
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 3: see him try and always continue to prove himself and
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: sure he's the guy to get it done. So for
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: you know that set up, I think you could even
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: run like a Josh all just gonna segue because we're
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: gon go on to wide receive anyway. Who but if
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 3: you had like Josh Allen lineups, you could still play Myers, Parker, Washington,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: whoever you want to really and just say, look, I'm
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: not figuring out the Josh Allen side, but I'm gonna
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: hope he beats Trevor Lawrence, but if he does get
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: rolling on the ground, they're going to be passing a lot.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 3: So let me build the lineup this way. It doesn't
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: always have to have Lawrence in that case. Unconventional, but
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: it can work in your favor. Thoughts at the wide
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: receiver position, hoop, outside of the fact that obviously a
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 3: lot of stacking going on right when you're when you're
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: talking about who you're playing, it's like.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: Dependent on that quarterback. We're already spread out a quarterback.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: But your thoughts in general, yeah, I.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 4: Mean the first thing at wide receiver that kind of
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: stands out of these Eagles guys getting so much ownership
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: AJ Brown and DeVonta Smith, and yeah, definitely, you know
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 4: makes sense. But I just see that Eagles game potentially
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 4: going a different way where it's heavy Jalen Hurts running
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: a heavy Saquon bar If they have success running Saquon Barkley,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 4: they're going to continue to run the ball. I'm telling
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 4: you that. And the last couple of teams that have
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 4: faced the forty nine Ers have had a lot of
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: succes us on the ground, and there really wasn't anything
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: the Niners could do to stop it. You're talking about
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 4: Kenneth Walker and Charbonay. Now we're looking at Saquon running it,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: and the quarterback can run it a little bit as well.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 4: So a little bit nervous. Obviously, if you're playing one fifty,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 4: you're going to have some Aj Brown and DeVonta Smith
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 4: in there. But if they are going to be the
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 4: highest doned, you know, I don't know if I'll get
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 4: there all the way there and those guys. Booty News
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 4: is big. If he's out, obviously, boost to Stefan Diggs,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 4: and then you have some some cheap options that Kyle
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: Williams guy looked, our kid looked pretty good tomorrow. Douglas
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: is cheap, so it's pretty big. Ricky Pearsall, we need
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 4: to see if he's in or out. Sounds truly questionable,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 4: I would say. And if Pearsall is to be ruled out,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 4: DeMarcus Robinson slides right in and essentially has his role.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: He is thirty three hundred, so we have some injury
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 4: stuff and if it breaks the other way like, we're
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 4: gonna have some very very cheap, appealing options. Again, we're
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 4: recording this on Friday. Not sure how much news we
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 4: get all the way up to Sunday. So it all
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 4: depends on when you're listening to this. But you know,
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 4: obviously be monitoring the news and we will have it
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 4: all updated in Discord and in our content. But Piercell
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 4: Booty and then I guess you know Joshua Palmer to
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 4: some degree, he's questionable, So there are some question marks
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 4: here now talking about the you know other teams, I
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 4: know we usually go team by team. I already talked
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 4: about the the Eagle, so I'll just stick with the four.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 4: I guess to talk about the Eagles and the forty
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 4: nine er side. So if Piercell's out, you know, Jennings
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 4: gets a boost, and DeMarcus Robinson and then you know,
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 4: Kendrick Bourne would be a cheap option as well. Going
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 4: to the Bills game, Bills and Jaguars. You have Bills,
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 4: it's just wild to me, Like it's so insane to me.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 4: You have josh all right, and they had steph On
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 4: Diggs at a great connection, like and how long ago
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 4: it wasn't when Diggs left with the two seasons ago
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 4: three seasons? Like how do you never find somebody at
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 4: the position you're wide receiver? Two for the playoffs with
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen at quarterback and really haven't suffered any injuries
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 4: at the position is going to be Brandon Cooks. I
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 4: mean that is absolutely insane to me. And Shakier really
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 4: hasn't been wasn't the player he was last year in
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 4: terms of productivity, So it is tough if you are
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 4: forcing in stacks with Josh Allen. I personally wouldn't force
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 4: it in, Like I'd be fine just playing Josh Allen
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: naked if need be. And I know kin Kaid was questionable.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 4: He's gonna play too, so you can look there, but
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 4: I don't think I need to play. This is one
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: of those scenarios where you probably get it a lot
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 4: in your lineups regardless, but like, don't say that you
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 4: have to stack with Josh Allen, but say I want
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 4: at least like a Jaguars guy on the other side
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 4: or two Jaguars guys on the other side to get
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 4: that little back and forth situation. But the Bill's wide
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: receiver room is tough. I mean, Shakier seems like the
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 4: most stable you got. Brandon Cooks, the Shavers guy they've
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 4: used a little bit, but man, I wouldn't count on
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 4: much of that, the Jaguars looked like the most stable
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 4: wide receiver room. Parker Washington, I think is wide receiver one.
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 4: I mean, Trevor Lawrence absolutely loves this guy, I mean
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: loves him. And Washington has performed all season long. And
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 4: if you watch the last game, and it was a
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 4: pretty meaningful game, Parker Washington was the top option. And
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: it's now three weeks in a row, ten targets, ten targets,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 4: nine targets, so it's not a fluke situation. Now he's
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 4: only five K, and again he's gonna be owned. We're
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 4: showing right around thirty nine percent ownership. I'm fine. I'm
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 4: fine with that. Jacobe Myers and then Brian Thomas is
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 4: going to be kind of like the pivot play. I
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: think people are just sick of it. I mean I
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: think people are very sick of it, including myself. But
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 4: it's three games slate, like we said it last week.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 4: Maybe this is the week for Brian Thomas. Maybe he's
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 4: waiting for the playoffs. How about that, Maybe he's waiting
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 4: for the playoffs to do something. Definitely want something, Especially
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 4: if you're playing a lot of Trevor Lawrence, you have
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 4: to include all three of those guys Charger situation. I
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 4: think this is iro believe why I like Herbert and
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 4: more so if you're one to fifty, Like if you're
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 4: gonna if you're handbuilding teams and you're playing justin Herbert,
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 4: it's gonna be hard because who the hell is it
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 4: gonna be. Is it gonna be Quintin Johnson? Is it
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 4: gonna be Lad Is it gonna be Keenan Allen? So
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 4: in one fifty, I think it's great because you're getting
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 4: three i'd say low owned options, Like eighteen to twenty
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 4: percent is low owned on a three game slate. You
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 4: got Lad McConkey coming in right around twenty, Quinn Johnson
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 4: we have it at fifteen, Keenan Allen right around twenty.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 4: You can play two of them if you want, you know,
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 4: I guess maybe three, depending on how aggressive you want
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 4: to be with it. So, you know, looking at the
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 4: ownership on these Chargers guys, I think I like Herbert
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 4: even more than we kind of talked about when we
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 4: were at quarterback. I mean, eighteen fifteen to twenty percent
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 4: is low oaned on a three game slate, and you're
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 4: getting all these guys at what I would say is
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 4: low ownership, and then Patriots kind of touched on that too.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 4: Need the Booty news digs is good. Either way, he'd
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 4: get a boost if he's out. Kyle Williams becomes a
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 4: play who has looked good, and then Tomoro Douglas and
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 4: they keep using this Chisholm guy too at thirty three hundred,
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 4: so maybe he's Gonta played a little bit as well.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 4: So deep wide receiver room.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I tell, do you want to add much or
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: what do you differ on? I guess is a better
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: way to put it. Obviously a lot of what Whop
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: said holds true for probably the two of us.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 2: But what else? What else do you got?
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I really don't know where where to add. Stuff
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 5: like the Philly San fran game, it's just Smith and
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 5: Brown on the other side, assuming Ricky plays, it's really
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 5: just him and Juwan, and I don't love that stuff
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 5: too much. The Jake stuff, like we talked about, they
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 5: have a lot of options Parker, Brian, Thomas, Jacobe and
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 5: then Strange that we talk about. So at least when
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 5: people do play Lawrence and stack it up, people will
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 5: go different ways a little bit. You can play two
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 5: or three of them. Man, the charger stuff I think
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 5: is the most difficult because Trey Harris has been playing
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 5: a good amount. Like you might not see any of
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 5: lad like Keenan qj or Harris play over seventy percent
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 5: of snaps. And you could say maybe the same thing
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 5: with the Patriots. If Booty plays like Diggs only plays
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 5: like fifty five percent of snaps, is that going to
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 5: change in the playoffs? Maybe, but it really hasn't changed
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 5: all year, like all year at all. I mean, he
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 5: had one game where he played sixty nine percent week eleven.
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 5: That was his highest that he's played. If there is
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 5: no Booty, Kyle Williams is by far the biggest beneficiary.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 5: And that Chishom guy like who mentioned too, seems like
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 5: Drake May trusts him a little bit. I think that
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 5: just brings back to I don't love the Drake May
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 5: stuff nearly as much as a lot of stuff because
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 5: a they have two running backs that are very viable,
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 5: and I think they want to run the ball first
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 5: or play action, and then it's so many different wide receivers.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 5: Now with that being said, May can rush, So when
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 5: I do play him, I think I probably just want
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 5: to stink. Single stack him and Diggs is the easiest
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 5: way to do it, but that's what the most people
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 5: will do who covered it well. Like to wrap it up,
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 5: Lawrence is my favorite. You have so many ways to go.
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 5: Josh Allen my second favorite, and you can just go Shakir,
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 5: just Kincaid or just no One. And then with the Eagles,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 5: you know where to go when you play hurt. So yeah,
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 5: it's we're gonna have to wait on some of this
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 5: injury news, but it's tough. New England Chargers receiving room
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 5: especially is very deep.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: One thing I'll add for sure and then we'll go
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: to tight end is just the pricing on wide receiver
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: is all pretty similar. However you want to look at it, like, yes,
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: some teams have a forty three hundred guy and the
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: next team is a fifty five. But either way you
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: can kind of fit what goes with your quarterback. But
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: what I will say is more of like a the
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 3: Charger side of things, Like when we talk about it
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: down there, the only spot that the Patriots have really
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 3: been beat is with the past game. And this is
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 3: where I would more consider the strength of schedul thing,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 3: not the strength of schedule factor as much of Okay,
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 3: well maybe if you didn't play as many strong offenses
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 3: and that's how you got beat. Maybe that's where you
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 3: can get beat. And then you go off against the
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 3: team now that's got lad qj Alan Gadsden. If they're
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 3: all healthy and good to role like they are, you
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 3: could see a spot already. Hampton, Yeah, we just heard
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 3: he plans to play, but banged up. It's already been
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: the way that they've been stopping teams with the run.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 3: So I think it's kind of at least if a
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 3: team's gonna get there again, the lineups no good you
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 3: anyway if it doesn't end up happening. So I would
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 3: be willing to take on some of that risk for
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: those guys, especially when I'm not as high on trying
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: to pick between Shakir and Cook's and Palmer or if
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: Brown and Smith are gonna be super chalky, fine, but
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna want them with hurts most likely, and maybe
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 3: adding a tight end to cut into that and so
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: on and so forth. I'm not as high on the
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 3: Drake mayside, So I do think the Chargers stuff is
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 3: pretty interesting. Just again, gotta get it right and then
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 3: gotta play enough of it that you could try and
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 3: get different combinations. So I think that makes it somewhat
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: interesting going to tight end hoop and then I'll come
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 3: back to you. I think, like I just mentioned, Gadston
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 3: is there, Kittle will probably pick up steam.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: It's again I think.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 3: Kittle, I don't know, like Kittle for sure, Henry for
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 3: sure seemed to be more like the one offs, whereas
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: like a Gadsden's with Herbert King, kaid Is a lot
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 3: of the time is gonna be with Alan A Strange
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 3: is for sure gonna be mostly with Lawrence lineups mostly
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 3: with Hurt Slides assuming he plays. He's limited in practice,
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 3: it said, but you'll expecting him to be in there.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 3: What's your thoughts on the tight end position?
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: Who?
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you kind of nailed it. I mean
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 4: a lot of what's played at tight end is going
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 4: to be correlated with with quarterback. Like just if you're
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 4: playing Jalen Hurts, I think you know you're probably gonna
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 4: have Goddard in there, especially like a Drake May situation
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 4: if Booty's out, Like if you're playing Hunter Henry, it's
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 4: probably gonna be in lineup where you have Drake May
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 4: because every team has a pretty reliable tight end. I
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 4: mean San Franz or Buffalo has kin Kid and you know,
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna talk about Knox in a minute. Jacksonville has
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 4: Strange who's kind of emerged. UH, san Franz has Kittle, UH,
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 4: Philly has Goddard, UH Chargers obviously have Gadson, and then
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 4: the Patriots have Hunter Henry. So I think it's going
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 4: to be very correlated with quarterbacks and games, right. You know,
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 4: maybe played the opposing tight end, but there's six reliable
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 4: UH tight end is one thing that does to out
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 4: to me though, is Kittle being substantially more expensive, you know,
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 4: seventeen hundred. I think he probably. I think it gets
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 4: squeezed a little bit. People will play double tight ends.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 4: I mean we're showing twenty eight percent. Saber has it
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 4: at thirty. I wouldn't be surprised if it's a little
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 4: lower on Kittle. They're the least. They're the right now
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 4: projected to score the fewest points on the slate, the
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 4: sand fran that is. But you know, if Piercel's out,
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 4: then I think, you know, he gets boosted up. So
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 4: the situation kind of need to monitor. I did want
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 4: to mention the Knox thing though, because Knox has been
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 4: out there quite a bit. I mean, title, I don't
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 4: know if you still have the snaps up there, how
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 4: quick he quickly you can get it, but I'd be
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 4: curious to know on Knox. And I know King Kid
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 4: has missed some time, but it seems like Knox is
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 4: out there, and if it is a small number when
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 4: he is out there, it seems like it's in key
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 4: spots like red zone opportunities inside the twenty, maybe inside
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 4: the thirty. So knocks out thirty three almost time.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 5: He's out snapping, like Knox is napping sixty five percent.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 5: Even when k Kate's healthy, he's he's playing more because
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 5: he's the better.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And you know, I think that's I think
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 4: that's interesting, especially on a play where you have a
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 4: quarterback that's willing to improvise. Maybe he is out there
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 4: to block or something, but you know, Josh Allen escapes
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 4: pressure and then knocks it down the field. So I
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 4: think that's an interesting play. Like no ownership on this slid,
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 4: I think, you know, it's ugly nasty to say, but
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 4: two touchdown upside potentially for a guy like Dawson Knox,
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 4: you know, Strange definitely stands out to me. I think
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 4: he's kind of breaking out so strange at thirty nine,
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 4: I think it was strong play, and then Hunter Hunt Henry.
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 4: So if I was to rank these guys, you know,
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 4: my top three, I think it's going to be Strange
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 4: Henry and then Gadson. That's it.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, just got the news that the King Kid thing
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: is cleared fully, so no injury designation just popped up.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: So that's good to have. And I like the Knox point.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 3: A lot of people playing dfs for any length of
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: time know enough about Dawson Knox getting there and taking
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 3: towns away and different factors to know that he's not
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 3: just blocking.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: So that's the good news.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 3: He's he's definitely very capable of being involved. At just
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 3: five hundred dollars less than King Kaid getting the injury clearance, now,
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: I think more would end up on Kinkaid and anyone
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: going to Josh Allen always feels comfortable with King Kid.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 3: You could just have Alan and Knox and call it
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: a you know, ten three hundred dollars combo, and really,
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: Josh Allen could make up that price alone so you
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 3: could get away with a pretty good spot there, even
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: if Knox doesn't have a huge game, because he's only
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 3: thirty three hundred dollars. Obviously, if you get a big
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 3: game out of him, that's going to add to the fold.
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 3: Like the strange call one thing I'll say about the
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 3: kittle stuff, then I'll kick it to you. Title is
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 3: just I think more people would be inclined to use
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: him as a one off, especially if Piercel's out, because like, oh,
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 3: if I'm not on McCaffrey and I get that that
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 3: makes sense.
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: I mean, I've gone through that a ton of times
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: with people.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 3: But I think it's also interesting that, like, if he
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 3: has the big enough game that it matters, it could
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 3: be helpful for a party. So it's like if he
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 3: has a two touchdown game and then Perdy runs one
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 3: in on them or something like that's already two passing
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 3: touchdowns and a rushing touchdown for Perty, it would really
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 3: leverage CMC's ownership.
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: You'd be able to fit more because of the pricing
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: and all that that you're fitting in there.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: So I don't know, it's at least somewhat interesting to
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 3: think about, but what he got at the tight end position.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 5: Anything else to add, Yeah, it is just worth noting
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 5: like Kittle's seventeen hundred more than the next highest priced
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 5: tight end, so at least they separated a little bit.
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 5: My favorite's definitely Strange. I'm going to keep playing this
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 5: lore and stuff. They passed the ballat on Strange is
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 5: one of his favorite options. After that, I think it's Kittle.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 5: And the reason I'm saying is, just if I'm Shanahan,
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 5: I'm getting the ball to Kittled McCaffrey. The Kittle is
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 5: so good yards after catch it can wear down the defense,
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 5: and if Ricky's beat up even just a little bit,
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 5: he can tight end screens, just keep the defense off balance.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 5: With McCaffrey and Kittle, he is the highest price though,
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 5: so it's a little concerning. But just if san Fran wins,
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 5: and I do give Shanahan respect for a good offensive mind,
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 5: I think Kittle has to be a big like he leads.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 5: He has a better receiving receptions prop than McCaffrey, just
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 5: by a little bit, but he leads the team at
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 5: five and a half. After that, I think Kayden Knox
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 5: would be my favorites. Like the touchdown prop two forty
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 5: K three ten for Knox. Twenty and a half I
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 5: believe was Knox's receiving yards and like thirty eight and
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 5: a half for Kincaid. They're gonna use two tight some
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 5: They're gonna use two tight end sets some their receiving core,
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 5: especially if Palmer's out, like that could even benefit both
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 5: of them because they might be on the field a
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 5: little more together. But it feels like he's after Shakira,
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 5: and I don't even know Shakira hasn't been great. He
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 5: loves Knox and Kinkaid in the middle of the field,
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 5: and I do want to play a good amount of
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 5: Josh Allen teams. They're applied for twenty six points and
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 5: you can get exposure with what Kincaid's looking around like
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 5: twenty percent owned. Knox is like unknowned, So I think
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 5: they're pretty interesting. And I will say I definitely like
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 5: two tight ends more on this Sunday slate than I
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 5: did the Saturday Slate. Like I didn't mention Gatson, there's
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 5: Hunter Henry all that. Now, Hunter Henry is one of
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 5: my least favorites because Hooper's out there good bit as well. Well.
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 5: I'm just more down on this Patriot stuff, and I'm
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 5: fine with gats And at thirty four hundred, but again
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 5: they're with the Trey Harris Lad Keenan. There's just so
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 5: many guys, but I will be playing Herbert stuff. He's
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 5: showing to be low and so I like gas in
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 5: a bit, so I rank him. I didn't mention Goddard,
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 5: to be honest. I like aj Brown and Smith a
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 5: good bit more there, and I already like Saquon, so
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 5: he falls down the list a little bit. I do
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 5: think he's, when it's all said and done, maybe the
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 5: highest tone because he's forty two hundred and he makes
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 5: a lot work. So my favorite gost strange one probably
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 5: Kittle two, Kincaid, Knox, gats And is how I ranked
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 5: the tight ends.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 3: The only other thing I'll say too, because I just
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 3: look at injury updates. I'll have to wait and see,
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 3: but could have like a perfect storm for this. It's
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 3: more gut feel and also just remembering from different DFS slates,
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 3: So and happened against Seattle. Actually, I will say this,
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 3: it was a interesting spot, but with Trent Williams. When
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 3: Trent Williams is out and he was out against Seattle,
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 3: and that's what we saw.
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: A down game for Kittle.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 3: He blocks a ton, He has to block a lot
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 3: more to help this offense out. And right now, Trent
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 3: Williams still not a positive update. Pierceill could be out now,
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 3: if Piercell was in, at least it would be you know,
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 3: then it could be in check for the ownership. It's
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 3: like he could space the field out all these different factors.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 3: But if Williams is out and piercill is out, I
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 3: think just the fact that Pierceill is out is going
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 3: to give an automatic boost to Kittle even more already.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 3: But if Williams is also out with him, there could
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 3: be like a it could be a big problem.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: First of all, for the forty nine ers.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 3: I know a lot of people put these guys up
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 3: as like this is a crazy game to get in.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 3: Round one might not be so crazy, and the spread's
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 3: already moved to I think five for the Eagles at
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 3: home now because of this type of stuff. So just
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 3: remember those things really matter in football, and that can
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 3: be a bit different. But from a DFS perspective, if
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 3: Pearcell and Williams were out, I don't think people look
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 3: at Williams at all or think.
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 2: About that they just go out Piercel's out bigger boost for.
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 3: Kittle and they just may not be able to do so,
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 3: and it may be more blocking again, and I don't
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 3: know who it would be involved, but man, this team
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 3: is pretty banged up. I heard somebody else talking about
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 3: it too, that like Jennings has been playing through some
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 3: rib injuries and stuff, maybe broken ribs if I heard right.
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 3: So little things like that just make it really tricky
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 3: for this whole San Francisco offense. It can be a
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 3: bit of a challenge. So anything hoop you want to
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: add at defenses at all or just kind.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: Of just pair it up wherever you go.
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm assuming probably pretty spread out. Yeah, I mean
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 4: I would play I'd feel fine playing all these defenses.
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 4: Who would be my favorite? Maybe the the Eagles, I guess,
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 4: just because you know, forty nine ers could be broken.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 4: I mean what we saw against you and the Seahawks
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 4: do have a really good defense, so I mean, maybe
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 4: it was a little outlier, but man, I think the
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 4: Eagles are probably my favorite. Lois owned is looking like
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 4: the Jaguars, But I'd still be fine playing the Jaguars.
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 4: I mean, one of those spots where I think high
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 4: scoring game for sure, but it could get I mean,
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 4: Josh Allen can get sloppy sometimes I think there could
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 4: be turnover. So I'm fine playing anything really at defense
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 4: on this three game slate.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: That is the irony of this comment. I'm always getting
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 2: good laugh, we're getting the end of the show. It's
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 2: always fun. But Joe Mama is our boy. He was
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: here before.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 3: Joe Mama sixty nine says you guys still saying fall
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 3: in the box, but your username is literally Joe Mama
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 3: with a sixty nine in it. You can't get more like,
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 3: what is.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 4: What is the main point with falling the box? Because
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 4: seem like really does seem like a very legitimate way
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 4: of explaining a touchdown, right.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 3: It's like you just have to fall in the as
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 3: long as he just falls in the box, like as
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 3: all he's at the one yard line, just need him
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 3: to fall in the box.
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 2: That that goes our way and then that would help
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: us out.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 3: If if you know, Tooton falls in the box instead
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 3: of etn Junior at ownership, you're gonna be in really
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 3: good shape on this slate so well, like the titles,
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 3: whenever stop it saying that.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: Title forget, I mean defense is I think who brought
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: up good points? We want to talk to defense. We can.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 3: I kind of want to round this one out, though,
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 3: and talk about these games for two seconds. I think
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 3: the Jags can definitely upset the Bills. I know the
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 3: automatic thought from the public is the Jags just went
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 3: on a run. The Bills have the experience they gotta lose.
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 3: I think the spread tells the story. I think it's good.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 3: I think the Jags could definitely upset the Bills. I
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 3: think the Eagles it could even get out of hand
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 3: here if the forty nine ers stay injured. It's just
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 3: it's unfortunate, but would be really tricky for them to
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: find a way around it. I think the Eagles are
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 3: still too good. And then I actually am interested. But
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 3: if I was doing some Tambos teasers this week, I
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 3: would be teasing the Chargers up. I'll be trying to
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 3: get that you know, eight eight and a half, whatever
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 3: line you're getting them all. But I definitely think the
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 3: Chargers have at least some of my interests here. Mind
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 3: you Patriots are obviously really good. I just think it's interesting.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: What do you got anything at defense, and then who
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 2: do you got winning these games?
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 5: Or thoughts? I got nothing at defense. It seems you
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 5: gotta get lucky at that position. And there's more correlation.
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 5: You play Sai kuon, maybe you're more inclined to play Eagles,
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 5: you play etn maybe more Jags, stuff like that. As
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 5: far as what I got, yeah, Bills Jags, it's minus
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 5: one twelve, minus one oh eight. It's a coin flip.
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 5: I just think it's it's hard to win when it's
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 5: really just two guys and Josh Allen and James Cook
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 5: and I think Lion Cohen's a good coach, and I
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 5: think they they scout for that and that's who they
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 5: take away. And I really like their offense. They're passing
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 5: a ton, They're used play action really well, and Trevor's
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 5: using his legs a lot in the red zone. So
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 5: that's a heck of a football game. To kick it off,
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 5: Niners Eagles. I want to have a hot take because
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 5: I've been down on these Eagles for like a year
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 5: and a half, and yeah, I'm emitting my l I
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 5: thought they were losing in Round one last year and
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 5: they go on to win the Super Bowl. But man,
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 5: this offense, like seventeen second half yards against the Bills
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 5: and Donkey. Part of the reason I'm picking Jaggs over
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 5: Buffalo too is I think the coaching discrepancy is massive.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 5: I may think Dermott is absolutely terrible. Why you go
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 5: for two when you're gonna be minus one seventy five
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 5: at minimum in ot is wild to me the Eagles
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 5: if you take away the running game though, like Hurts,
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 5: he loves doing his little scramble out and just throw
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 5: the ball away. Now, this defense is so bad that
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 5: I think they do have success running. And if you
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 5: have success running, this team's a whole different beasts. So
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna say Eagles, even though I don't love this
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 5: team in general, and then he already said I'm on
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 5: Chargers over Patriots. I think it's just I just I
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 5: think the line's a little disrespectful. I think everyone sees
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 5: the Drake may, everyone sees the Pats record, all of that.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 5: But I think as long as Herbert has time, which
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 5: in this matchup, it's one of the best matchups I
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 5: think for him, Broncos Houston, all that struggle. If he
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 5: has time, I look at this a lot more of
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 5: a coin flip, so I'll take the plus money.
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  Speaker 2: Whop, what do you got? What do you what do
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  Speaker 2: you think happens in these games?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and usually not lockstep with Title on stuff like this,
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  Speaker 4: but I think it's I think it's the Jags, and
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, Jags might be better than everyone thinks.
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  Speaker 4: I think they have a chance to make a run here.
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  Speaker 4: Like their team is very well rounded. So I definitely
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  Speaker 4: like the Jags. Eagles, I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I think part of it with the Eagles is they
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  Speaker 5: want the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 4: Last year, they knew their division was weak, they were
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 4: going to kind of coast into the playoffs and kind
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 4: of did it last year. Like Title said, I don't
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  Speaker 4: think we loved the Eagles first round of the playoffs
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  Speaker 4: last year, and then they went on and made a run.
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  Speaker 4: I wouldn't be surprised if they make a run here
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  Speaker 4: this season as well. So definitely, And on the end,
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  Speaker 4: it's the best possible matchup. I mean, forty nine Ers
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 4: you could kind of see at the end of the
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 4: season kind of definitely got exposed last week. So Eagles,
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 4: and then yeah, I think the Chargers can upset. I mean,
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 4: I guess it's the three point spreads, so it's not
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  Speaker 4: like a massive upset. But I think the Chargers beat
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 4: the Patriots, so Jaguars Eagles, Patriots, and then for the
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 4: Tuesday or the Yeah, that's good cover that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna just put it on title though, so we'll
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: blame him if we're wrong. But that's the that title teaser.
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  Speaker 3: Man, the Jags plus eight and you get the Chargers
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 3: plus ten and a half. That's amazing set up for
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 3: the playoffs. And I actually think this could really happen.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 2: So I like that to a seven point tear.
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  Speaker 5: You think you tell me you think that can happen.
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  Speaker 5: When you typed it out, I typed it for you.
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  Speaker 2: That's all I put it down for you. That's what
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 2: we're putting the blame over to you.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 3: I think it's funny. But yeah, the chat was even
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 3: talking about it, like where was it here?
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: Was saying like.
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  Speaker 3: Would be considered an upset though, and then mentioned the
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 3: Patriots spot. I think no matter what, whether the and
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 3: Jags goes through this two Jags versus Bills as well
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 3: as the Chargers for Patriots, if the Bills or Patriots lose,
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be considered an upset. Just the matter of fact,
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 3: like it doesn't matter, Like people just assume that regardless
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 3: of what who played who who's the MVP, like candidate
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 3: with Drake may et cetera. So it'll all just be
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 3: considered that no matter what I think. Like, I definitely
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 3: think the Patriots are a favorite for a reason. That's
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 3: the bigger spread of the of the those two games.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 3: Obviously the Eagles the biggest spread because of injury stuff
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 3: right now. But yeah, I think if the Jags win,
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 3: good for them for one hell of a season and
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 3: getting here and then getting another w over the Bills regardless,
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 3: that'd be awesome, and then Chargers the same way. Like Patriots, Definitely,
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 3: people see a lot more out of them as the
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 3: playoffs go on. People have them as you know, winning
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 3: the Super.
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: Bowl and stuff. So I think it's because the AFC
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: so weak and all that. I just think it's crazy.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 2: But Title, you endorsed this for sure if you had to.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 3: You know, we're not a betting show, but you gotta
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 3: like this based on what you said, this is what
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 3: you're thinking.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I do.
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  Speaker 5: I I've never really been like a t like I'm
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  Speaker 5: on that side. I just like plus three and I'm
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 5: more likely just to bet plus three and a half
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 5: or just take minus one twelve money line. But yeah,
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 5: I'm on those two sides. I won't be uh won't
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 5: be betting at though. I know we didn't talk about
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 5: it on the Saturday. We're breaking it up. But Bears
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 5: Packers any lean there? I got the Packers, Yeah, I
• 1:40:32
  Speaker 5: mean they keep taking money very very rare. You see
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 5: a seven to two on the road and minus one
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 5: twenty five, it's wop. And then I want to hear
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 5: your thoughts on the ten and a half number. That's
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 5: it's a big boy number in the playoffs.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 4: I mean I got I got Bears. I got the
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 4: Bears over the Packers. And then the Yeah, there's a
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 4: big freaking number.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: That's why you know the Rams are just cooking them. Sorry,
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 2: you're gonna end it once in ball.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 3: It's literally gonna have to be discussed in the offseason
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 3: on how these teams make Yeah, that's what's gonna happen.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 4: I blean that direction. I mean, the Panthers just can't
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 4: be good.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 3: So yeah, people can tease the Panthers up to seventeen
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 3: and a half if they want. It's like that's which
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 3: is such a big number that it's like, you just
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 3: have to.
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: And then that's how you know they lose by eighteen.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, that's that's the way it goes. But yeah,
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 2: I thought this was good. I think it's a good breakdown.
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 3: You know, on these smaller slates, there's a lot more
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 3: strategy and stuff that we can discuss a little bit
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 3: different than just going game by game in a main slate.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 2: So appreciate you guys.
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 3: Hopefully this was good and good luck in your contest
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 3: for this week title.
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 2: Did you have any final thoughts for we get out
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: here anything else?
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  Speaker 4: Man?
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 5: Just yeah, this is the week I'll be on my
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 5: college I mean even today. We're recorded on Friday, Indiana Orgon.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 5: It's one of the biggest college games people have talked
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 5: in a while. You get two great games on Saturday,
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 5: and yeah, three hell of the games on Sunday. Don't
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 5: forget Monday. We'll be back and I assume slash hope
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 5: that showdown is one hundred k plus on Monday for
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 5: people in the contest. I don't know if you think
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 5: it'll be or is it already out your time on entries? Yeah, yeah,
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 5: one hundred k plus.
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: Better be freaking hundred k.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 5: No no entries, I want.
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 3: Like five hundred k up top minimum. Yeah, actually I
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 3: thought which one's five hundred k? I think it is
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 3: out now that you said it.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 5: Oh, I mean, yeah, I didn't know that interesting game
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 5: on Monday when we talk like the it feels like
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 5: the least excited game breaking it down like real.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I said. I knew, I seen it.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 3: You know, I'm cooking a picking things out. It's got
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 3: eighty eight thousand in it, but it's five hundred ki
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 3: thirty so the first drop offs big.
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 5: But yeah, twenty bucks twenty bucks yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 5: that's solid for sure.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 5: So I mean a lot of football and then we'll
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 5: be back Monday talking about Yeah, another game on.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 3: Mind And yes, my boy man, Timmy Dubbs is my boy.
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 3: But that literally means nothing. That game where Carolina beat
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 3: the Rams like that just makes it possible. Sure, but
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 3: a lot of things are possible. Ask Kevin Garnett, anything
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 3: is possible.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: He'll tell you.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 3: So.
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 2: Will Buyers, well, will Buyers is what about him?
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 5: I don't know. Will Buyers is straighter than Packer fans?
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 5: Who's Bill Myers?
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: Why does that name sound familiar.
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 5: I mean, I understand that he's probably like the same gender,
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 5: but I.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: Know we wouldn't know. This is the I know titles
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: on hashtag no shows.
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely don't watch these Stranger Things and stuff
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 3: like I don't watch.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 5: That's my wife watches that, Michael Scofield. You could have
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 5: said that that's why I knew Schofield's the man.
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, whop Benny filed outs from you?
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 4: No, man, that's favorite favorite weekend of the NFL season. Yeah,
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 4: it's right there with Week one. We we kind of
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 4: talked about it, but it's it's so much fun. You
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 4: have a lot of contest starting like we talked about.
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 4: You have the playoff Best Ball, which they boosted a ton,
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 4: I mean a million to first on DraftKings five hundred
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 4: thousand Underdog, have the Splash contest going survivor have obviously
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 4: massive contests. Uh for DF Saturday Sunday Slate. You can
• 1:43:57
  Speaker 4: play the six game slate, a lot of different options.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 4: So I'm looking forward to this one and good luck
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 4: to everyone out there.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, super excited for the week ahead.
• 1:44:05
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  Speaker 3: first week of golf content as well. All Right, good
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 3: luck in your contest. That's gonna do it for this week, guys.
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  Speaker 3: For title, for Whop and for myself Totech and Tambo
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  Speaker 3: led ship it