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UK Column News — 29th June 2026 · UK Column Radio

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  Speaker 1: Good afternoon. Today is Monday, the twenty ninth of June
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, just after one o'clock. Welcome to UK
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  Speaker 1: column News. I'm your host, Brian Gerrish. Delighted to have
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  Speaker 1: Ben Rubin with me in the studio.
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  Speaker 2: Delighted to be here, Brian.
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  Speaker 1: Looking as though you've got some sunshine over the weekend.
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  Speaker 2: I think I did.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it was dangerously hot outside, so I was terrified
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  Speaker 3: by the heat, so I did take proper precautions though,
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  Speaker 3: but I did catch a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: So on you are correct, you survive, that's good.
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  Speaker 1: I did speak to one or two elderly people over
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  Speaker 1: the weekend who are finding a bit tough, but they
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  Speaker 1: were staying indoors, out of the sun and they were
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  Speaker 1: still very pleased to see the blue sky and sunshine.
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  Speaker 1: So that's our take on it, which is probably very
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  Speaker 1: different from the BBC. We've got a lot to cover.
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  Speaker 1: We're going to have a look at the rise of
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  Speaker 1: the anti christ. We're going to be looking at restrictions
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  Speaker 1: on speech. We're going to be looking certainly at the
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  Speaker 1: drive back to the EU migration as a tool of destabilization,
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  Speaker 1: and we've got a little bit of a focus on
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  Speaker 1: Wales for that lcaw Yes, you'll have to wait for
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  Speaker 1: the segment to find out what that's really about and
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  Speaker 1: who benefits. But overall, really the theme is how great
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  Speaker 1: Andy Burnham is. So let's kick off with the gentleman
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  Speaker 1: in question, and what better way than to put his
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  Speaker 1: face on screen? Or maybe not? Now what is the caption? Well,
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  Speaker 1: they can only really be one caption, and if there's
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  Speaker 1: any question about God, that's Andy Burnham apparently. Ben and
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  Speaker 1: I think it's just astonishing to see this man now
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  Speaker 1: faded across the press and the media. He can do
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  Speaker 1: no wrong, he's the savior. It's pretty disgusting to look
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  Speaker 1: at some of the headlines and to why we've homed
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  Speaker 1: in on this particular man so financial times here this
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  Speaker 1: was really a key one for me. Burnham plots number
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  Speaker 1: ten of the North in push for radical devolution of power. Now,
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  Speaker 1: this is really what it's all about, because of course
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  Speaker 1: he's been building his empire there in the North of UK.
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  Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, this is about
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  Speaker 1: devolving power. Local people are told it's going to give
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  Speaker 1: them more power, but the real agenda is to bring
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  Speaker 1: the power of the state down to the lowest possible level.
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  Speaker 1: We've got a little bit more here, so let's bring
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  Speaker 1: in these articles. We've got the Daily Telegraph which says
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  Speaker 1: that Burnham must call an election. We've got the Times
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  Speaker 1: telling us that more cash is set to go north,
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  Speaker 1: and I think a lot of that is going to
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  Speaker 1: be to help to sway voters that Burnham is even
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  Speaker 1: better than they may think he is. We've got Eye
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  Speaker 1: Weekend with the Burnham bounce, labor leap frogs reform with
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  Speaker 1: new leader burn and burn and Burnham. But it goes
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  Speaker 1: on Burnham. Let's bring in a bit more Daily Mail.
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  Speaker 1: Migration crackdown is softened for Burnham. Now we're getting into
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  Speaker 1: some of the agenda that's going to cause problem but
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  Speaker 1: also going to be used as a weapon against the
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  Speaker 1: wider population. And the Guardian there with the headline pressure
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  Speaker 1: on a Mamood over immigration bill, it goes on, stay
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  Speaker 1: with me and what have we got here? While failing
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  Speaker 1: water firms face state control under Burnham plans for power,
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  Speaker 1: that's course political power as opposed to water and electricity.
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  Speaker 1: At the moment the Daily Telegraph, this was from a
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  Speaker 1: couple of days ago, but I felt I had to
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  Speaker 1: grab it temperature on the particular day in question was
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  Speaker 1: very high. Burnham calls on Miliban as Chancellor, and of
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  Speaker 1: course the joke for the Daily Mail was King Charles
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  Speaker 1: having his hair blown dry. Sorry he was having a
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  Speaker 1: fan to call him off, but the Telegraph thought that
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  Speaker 1: was the opportunity to make light of Burnham's intended politics.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think he's really called on Miliband as chancellor?
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  Speaker 2: Ben has he called on Milliban as chancellor? I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Milliban's basically doing the job that he always
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  Speaker 3: wanted to do in the in the net zero the
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  Speaker 3: pot of a net zero at the moment, But if
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  Speaker 3: you put him in as chancellor, then extraordinarily very dangerous
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  Speaker 3: man Milliban, I believe. And actually, if you look at
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  Speaker 3: the kind of economic model that they're pushing forward to
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  Speaker 3: this idea of Manchesterism, which will come back in a moment,
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  Speaker 3: total centralized control of the economic system by the state
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  Speaker 3: is what they're after, and that is certainly right up
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  Speaker 3: Milliban straight.
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  Speaker 2: I would say.
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  Speaker 1: Both the brothers came from a Marxist father and a
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  Speaker 1: Marxist background, so that would fit well. I cann't resist
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  Speaker 1: this one from a video that you'll find the details
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  Speaker 1: of that in the show notes. But here's Burnham to
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  Speaker 1: make a major speech on economy and devolution. Now that's
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  Speaker 1: actually happened, Ben, you listened in. It was pretty weak,
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  Speaker 1: But let's just add something over the top of this,
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  Speaker 1: because it seems that what's coming in with Burnham is
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  Speaker 1: do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever this man decides to focus on and do, that's
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  Speaker 1: going to be brought into effect in the country. So
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  Speaker 1: immensely powerful individual, no doubt selected and coming forth to
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  Speaker 1: be Prime Minister. And what can we expect to see
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  Speaker 1: as this happens, Well, we are going to see more
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  Speaker 1: of the same yaboo politics. The headline from the Metro
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  Speaker 1: here trying to indicate that the Conservatives under Kenny bad
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  Speaker 1: Knock is going to take him to task. But the
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  Speaker 1: UK column is saying to our audience just get ready
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  Speaker 1: for more yaboo politics and political theater as the uniparty polity,
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  Speaker 1: policies and agenda continues. So the moment Andy Burnham tremendously powerful,
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  Speaker 1: clearly selected from major constitutional and devolution change in the UK,
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  Speaker 1: and it's not going to be taking us into a
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  Speaker 1: better place, then.
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  Speaker 3: No I shouldn't say so. He's been crowned. It's a coronation. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: this has been handed to us as the de facto
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  Speaker 3: outcome of Starmer's resignation is that we now have Andy Burnham.
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  Speaker 2: He's going to be the Prime Minister.
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  Speaker 3: There's some kind of process that we're going to have
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  Speaker 3: to go through, but actually it's just going to be him.
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  Speaker 3: And the real question is is he really great or
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  Speaker 3: really really really great. He's really really really great.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he's really really great, but he is
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  Speaker 1: really really dangerous.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think this man is going to be taking this
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  Speaker 1: country to pieces. He's going to be destroying it completely.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's certainly the job he's going to be. According
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  Speaker 3: to his speech that he was delivering as we were
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  Speaker 3: putting the news together, doing things differently, and we couldn't
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  Speaker 3: cover this because it was still really just he was
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  Speaker 3: in the opening remarks when we needed to shut things
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  Speaker 3: down basically. But I'll tell you what, it was very
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  Speaker 3: very heavily staged, managed canned laughter. Well, I'm sure it
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  Speaker 3: was real laughter from the people in the audience, but
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  Speaker 3: they'd certainly been told that they had to laugh at
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  Speaker 3: the jokes because they were not good jokes, and actually
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  Speaker 3: I found the whole delivery of the thing very perfunctory
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  Speaker 3: and not very impressive. I think he's going to have
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  Speaker 3: to up his game if he's going to be an
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  Speaker 3: international leader, I would say, but he's talking about doing
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  Speaker 3: things differently. What does that mean. We've heard this term
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  Speaker 3: Manchesterism a lot. My question is, which I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: keep on trying to answer, what does that mean? What
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  Speaker 3: does Manchesterism actually mean. We're going to dig into a
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  Speaker 3: bit of it now. It's quite a big agenda, actually,
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  Speaker 3: the total transformation of our political and economic systems. We
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  Speaker 3: showed this image last week, which is the transformation of
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  Speaker 3: the skyline in Manchester between twenty ten and twenty twenty five,
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  Speaker 3: and this is presented as in large part Manchesterism, and
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  Speaker 3: he talks about the transformation of the skyline as being
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  Speaker 3: one of his key achievements exactly so this means property development,
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  Speaker 3: the destruction of the existing infrastructure of the city. And
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  Speaker 3: we've got a short clip here of Burnham talking to
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  Speaker 3: the Center for Cities about Manchesterism about three months ago.
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  Speaker 2: Before this whole You.
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  Speaker 5: Talk up the control a lot. I need to add
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  Speaker 5: to the list of things that you need more public
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  Speaker 5: control over or be more intentional about is your investment strategy.
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  Speaker 5: I didn't come start with me, so Howard Bernstein I
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  Speaker 5: mentioned him earlier those who don't know, legendary Chief Executive
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  Speaker 5: and Master City Council. Just over a decade ago he
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  Speaker 5: persuaded George J Osbourne to create something called the Housing
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  Speaker 5: Investment Loans Fund, which was a three hundred million pound
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  Speaker 5: fund to be given with which was basically there to
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  Speaker 5: finance housing schemes that the lenders wouldn't touch and Howard
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  Speaker 5: were sent to jobs. These are valuable schemes and the
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  Speaker 5: reason they couldn't proceed was there. I say it often.
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  Speaker 5: London based finance just had a diner on Manchester saw
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  Speaker 5: it was too distic. Not so Howard said, we would
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  Speaker 5: have to break that because if we don't build the
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  Speaker 5: homes and the numbers we need, and the Gray Day
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  Speaker 5: Office and all the rest of it, we're just going
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  Speaker 5: to struggle to break out.
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  Speaker 6: Of where we are.
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  Speaker 5: We can't break the glass ceiling on a city like ours.
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  Speaker 5: See the change in our style line has largely been
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  Speaker 5: driven by the Housing Loans Fund and that three hundred
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  Speaker 5: million platforms being to recycled three times and there's not
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  Speaker 5: been one default on the loan, and they're commercial loans.
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  Speaker 5: People misunderstand that they think it's it's just simply a
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  Speaker 5: market because they wouldn't land.
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  Speaker 3: So as a long interview, not that long, about twenty
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  Speaker 3: five minutes, definitely worth going to watch. And then also
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  Speaker 3: that it's accompanied by a keynote speech that he gave
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  Speaker 3: on that same stage at the same event immediately after that.
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  Speaker 3: So I put links in the show notes. You should
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  Speaker 3: go and have a look at it. Key things that
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  Speaker 3: he's talking about is centralization of control, and earlier on
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  Speaker 3: in that interview he talks about centralization of control of buses,
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  Speaker 3: housing and energy systems in particular, and the housing transformation
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  Speaker 3: of Manchester through the transformation of the skyline that we
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  Speaker 3: just talked about a moment was driven by this thing
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  Speaker 3: to what he talked about, the Greater Manchester Housing Investment
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  Speaker 3: Loans Fund. And I've had a little scanned through this
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  Speaker 3: document on the left hand side, which is an evaluation
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  Speaker 3: of the Greater Manchester Hausing Investment Loans Fund, which is
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  Speaker 3: prepared by an external consulting business for the Greater Combined
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  Speaker 3: Authority from the start of last year to look at
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  Speaker 3: the performance of the fund how it did over the
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  Speaker 3: ten years of its operation, right, so you can see
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  Speaker 3: on the right hand side. I've just distilled some key
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  Speaker 3: numbers out of the executive summary that they made nine
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  Speaker 3: hundred and eighty three million of loans. So he said
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  Speaker 3: they've got a three hundred million bung up the front
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  Speaker 3: from George Osbourne and that's been recycled three times, so
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  Speaker 3: they've loaned that money out three times. That's gone to
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  Speaker 3: a total of seventy schemes and that's delivered just under
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  Speaker 3: eleven thousand homes, so undred and seventy four homes at
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  Speaker 3: a cost of just under ninety thousand pounds per home.
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  Speaker 2: This is what's being built and what that's delivered.
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  Speaker 3: For the fund is twenty nine million in profit to
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  Speaker 3: the Greater Manchester Combined Authority, with a further projected ten million,
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  Speaker 3: so that'll come to thirty nine million profit for the
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  Speaker 3: fund and then just less than that thirty eight million,
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  Speaker 3: three hundred thousand going back into central government. So you've
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  Speaker 3: essentially got the state acting as a bank and doing
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  Speaker 3: commercial lending to private enterprise at commercial rates. So you
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  Speaker 3: said they're getting a rate of interest.
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  Speaker 1: Back on this, so the private sector makes profit and
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  Speaker 1: the local authority Burnham's crowd is also taking a skim
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  Speaker 1: off the top of it.
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  Speaker 3: Someone inside the Great Manageter Combine authority is getting paid
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  Speaker 3: quite a lot of money to run a bank, because
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  Speaker 3: I'd imagine that you have to go pretty decent commercial
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  Speaker 3: rates to attract the talent required to do this, because
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  Speaker 3: they could just go and work at a bank somewhere else,
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  Speaker 3: only banks in Manchester. So where's this thing come from?
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  Speaker 3: What is it?
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  Speaker 7: Is it?
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  Speaker 2: Is it state? Is it? Is it a commercial bank, partnership,
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  Speaker 2: partner a partnership.
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  Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, the ordinary people
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  Speaker 1: have got to pay for those homes, and they're going
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  Speaker 1: to pay through the nose, and they're going to pay
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  Speaker 1: through the notes, plus the profit to cover both the
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  Speaker 1: private sector and Burnham's.
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  Speaker 2: Empire exactly exactly.
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  Speaker 3: That's who really ultimately is benefiting from this because those
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  Speaker 3: developments are not great and various consequences implications of all
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  Speaker 3: of this Brights just touched on. You're nationalizing risk and
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  Speaker 3: privatizing profit. Right, so you've loaned some money out to
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  Speaker 3: private investors who couldn't raise it elsewhere in the market, right,
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  Speaker 3: And he says, no, no, no, these are viable. These are
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  Speaker 3: viable developments, but the market says that they're not. And
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  Speaker 3: it's not just because they're going down on Manchester because
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  Speaker 3: they're from London and they're snobs and they don't like
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  Speaker 3: the North. They can't be the only reason that this
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  Speaker 3: stuff is happening. It might be that they're not viable.
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  Speaker 3: It might be that you've got broader problems in the
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  Speaker 3: area that are beyond housing, like masty industrialization of the
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  Speaker 3: whole of the North of England over the past fifty years.
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  Speaker 2: That might be a starting point. You don't have a
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  Speaker 2: look at that.
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  Speaker 3: So this is market manipulation as well in a sense
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  Speaker 3: like I've just described. And also it's destroying the fabric
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  Speaker 3: of the city because they're bulldozing through existing infrastructure to
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  Speaker 3: put up these high rise buildings. And really importantly, particularly
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  Speaker 3: for someone of the political persuasion of Andy Burnham, normal
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  Speaker 3: people can't buy these houses. So actually there's a report
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  Speaker 3: here for the Manaster Evening News from Stockport and actually
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  Speaker 3: in that interview he goes on immediately after that clip
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  Speaker 3: to talk about Stockport where locals are saying, well, these
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  Speaker 3: flats are fourteen hundred pounds a month. Locals can't afford
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  Speaker 3: to pay this. And this is actually coming from inside
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  Speaker 3: the Labor party as well. So this is Christine Carrigan
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  Speaker 3: has just been voted in as the head of Labor
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  Speaker 3: in Stockport Council and she's saying that what we're proposing
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  Speaker 3: here with these flats is they're going to be fourteen
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  Speaker 3: hundred a month, give or take, which is London prices really,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, she's not Man prices, or certainly not Stockport prices.
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  Speaker 2: And what we're saying is we're building.
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  Speaker 3: Flats on that side of the viaduct that are going
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  Speaker 3: to cost more than the average person is Stockport can
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  Speaker 3: really afford, which is a very very valid thing to say.
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  Speaker 3: So if Manchesterism, by the sounds of it, is using
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  Speaker 3: taxpayer money to create opportunities for private investors to make
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  Speaker 3: a lot of profit, and also to do that with
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  Speaker 3: the full blessing of the state, because once the state
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  Speaker 3: has gone in with a loan or even a capital investment,
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  Speaker 3: essentially they put their standpoint it said that nothing's going
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  Speaker 3: to get in the way of this happening because we've
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  Speaker 3: got to vested interest in this thing working right, Otherwise
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  Speaker 3: we're going to lose that money. So it's creating an
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  Speaker 3: artificial marketplace with taxpayer money for private investors to make
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  Speaker 3: huge sums from building homes that local people can't afford.
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  Speaker 3: And this is presented to us by Burnham and his
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  Speaker 3: team as some kind of economic miracle.
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  Speaker 1: And there's something else that goes with it, and that
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  Speaker 1: is that if you were saying Manchester, most people think
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  Speaker 1: of the city of Manchester. But of course what Burnham
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  Speaker 1: was also doing is expanding this into a city state,
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  Speaker 1: a super state. Yes, so this whole scheme gets bigger
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  Speaker 1: because the geographic era is expanding with it.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: So this is a fiefdom which is all about making profit. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: the ordinary people he is supposed to be looking after
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  Speaker 1: as a labor or see man, they're actually being screwed
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  Speaker 1: into the ground.
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  Speaker 2: Indeed they are. And this isn't just in Manchester, this
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  Speaker 2: is national.
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  Speaker 3: So just an example from just you can't quite see
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  Speaker 3: the Civic Center in the shot over our shoulders in
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  Speaker 3: the in the view of the sound, but it's not
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  Speaker 3: far from there. But the Civic Center is this nineteen
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  Speaker 3: sixties monstrosity in the center of Plymouth, which unfortunately is
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  Speaker 3: Grade one listed because actually it'd be quite a good idea.
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  Speaker 2: It just bulldos it?
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  Speaker 1: Many people thought so, Yeah, of course it was suddenly
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  Speaker 1: listed and people had no idea that was really happening. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's an interesting story in itself, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: So very recently, so back in May this year, a
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  Speaker 3: Manchester based development company called Captain Eccentric announced the partnership
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  Speaker 3: with Plymouth Council where they're going to the council are
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  Speaker 3: going to put in I think it was seventeen pounds.
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  Speaker 3: The developer is going to put in some money and
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  Speaker 3: they're going to turn it into flats that are rental only.
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  Speaker 3: This is a public asset paid for out of taxpayer
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  Speaker 3: money that is now owned by a private investor and
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  Speaker 3: you can't even buy the flat there. It's just going
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  Speaker 3: to be rental only. And then this is presented on
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  Speaker 3: the front page of the Plymouth Herald by one of
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  Speaker 3: the local MPs.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is amazing. We've never had this before, isn't
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  Speaker 2: it great?
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  Speaker 3: This is going to come through now really really not
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  Speaker 3: a good direction of travel. Just with a quick an
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  Speaker 3: eye on time, I will just wrap up with it
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  Speaker 3: with a couple of final points. I definitely recommend going
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  Speaker 3: to watch this and I'll put a link to it.
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  Speaker 2: It's probably been at.
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  Speaker 3: Least in part super by statements made today and in
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  Speaker 3: other things any Burnham has been up to. But the
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  Speaker 3: ones that the statements have really jumped out of me
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  Speaker 3: were the fact that he said turn your back on
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  Speaker 3: net zero, you turn your back on the future. So
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  Speaker 3: it's total, absolute devotion to the net zero agenda. He
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  Speaker 3: also used the phrase that state ownership gives control over
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  Speaker 3: the pace of change, which is what any dictator would say.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what this is about. Beyonder no illusions,
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  Speaker 1: this is about creating a dictatorship through the city state.
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  Speaker 1: Siestoms absolutely.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And then the final thing that jumped out was he
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: said that devolution is the only thing that has any
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: political consensus in Westminster right now, which is ironic because
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: when it was put to the country back in it
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: was two thousand and five, we rejected devolution by seventy
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: eight to twenty two percent when the Northeast Regis was
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: asked about this. So Westminster might be united behind evolution
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: for the country having already rejected it, is being forced
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: into it and I think when people really look into
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: it and understand what's driving this, then they'll be extremely
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: concerned and absolutely right to be so. And then, just
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: as a final point, because this was something that else
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: that came out of that interview, Andy Burnham, Manchesterist, mentions
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: that he's the two people who've had the most profound
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: impact on Manchester over the past forty years were Sir
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: Howard Bernstey and the CEO of Manchester Council, who's essentially
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: developed this whole model, right, this public private model which
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: is now being exported to the rest of the country.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: He also mentions Tony Wilson, the founder of Factory Records,
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: who died back in two thousand and seven, and I
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: actually talked about Factory Records over two years ago now
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: because they were running this thing called the Fate of Britain.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: If you go to the Factory Records Factory International website,
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: they're talking about citizens, assemblies, participated governance order, the.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: UN and New World Order, agendas, agendas, and you've consistently
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: followed this through through ben So traditional politics it's still there,
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: that's the theater, but it's these agencies and the corporations
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: that are actually driving politics on the ground.
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: And Andy Burnham is going to spearhead.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: This certainly looks that way.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, thank you for that, Ben. Well, let's just move
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: on a little bit. I've entitled this chaos and confusion
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: reframing the nation. What am I really talking about? We
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: just have a look at some of the headlines we've
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: got the Independent here. Britain must rejoin the Single Market
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: within five years, says Major. So no sign, no opportunity
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: for the public in UK to actually settle down, get
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: on with life, enjoy life. You're going to get them
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: riled up again with a whole load of rubbish over
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: the European Union. And of course John Major, failed Prime Minister,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: is going to lead the charge on that we've got
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: our freedoms are at great risk. So the other side
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: of the coin coming in if we get near the
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: EU again we're in trouble, which indeed we are. And
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: then the Guardian here we just chose this one. But
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: of course we are seeing more and more coming up
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: about the dangers of climate change. But let's just have
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: a little look at the BBC. This is a master
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: piece of pro government propaganda on the EU. But let's
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: just have a look at Ross Atkins from the BBC
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: talking about European Union. Pay attention to the very start
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: of this video clip.
• 21:49
  Speaker 8: The UK hasn't got as much money as it would like,
• 21:51
  Speaker 8: and there are lots of reasons for this, the war
• 21:54
  Speaker 8: in Ukraine, COVID, the US war with Iran being three
• 21:57
  Speaker 8: those are events outside the UK's control. But there's something
• 22:00
  Speaker 8: else which we chose to do. The most economists think
• 22:04
  Speaker 8: is holding our economy back. One estimate is of a
• 22:06
  Speaker 8: long term hit of four percent. Another says it's already
• 22:09
  Speaker 8: been six to eight percent, a difference of up to
• 22:12
  Speaker 8: two hundred and forty billion pounds a year to the
• 22:15
  Speaker 8: size of the economy. I'm talking about this.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: We're out.
• 22:18
  Speaker 8: It's ten years since the UK chose Brexit. It was
• 22:21
  Speaker 8: one of the most consequential moments of the country since
• 22:23
  Speaker 8: the Second World War. If you're under twenty eight, you're
• 22:26
  Speaker 8: too young to have voted, but you're living with the
• 22:29
  Speaker 8: consequences of that decision. Fifty two percent voted to leave
• 22:32
  Speaker 8: the European Union, despite the leaders of the main parties
• 22:35
  Speaker 8: being against it, despite advice from the US, despite repeated
• 22:39
  Speaker 8: warnings about the economy. I reported on the campaign and
• 22:42
  Speaker 8: the vote and everything that's followed ten years on. I
• 22:46
  Speaker 8: want to return to the question of Brexit in the
• 22:48
  Speaker 8: economy because many analysts say those warnings were right.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Well, there we are pure propaganda because of course what
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: that gentleman is doing is saying he was right. Well
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: he wasn't.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: He was wrong.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: And the reason the country isn't performing is because the
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: country isn't allowed to perform as a nation state. There's
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: always constant political agenda to destroy the ability of this
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: country to produce, manufacture and trade at international levels. So
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: the big sounding post of the moment sounding board at
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: the moment is we decinately need to get into the
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: back into the European Union. We certainly don't. But did
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: you pick up on the very beginning ben these wars
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: in Ukraine and Iran and well COVID, well COVID. Yeah,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: but just stick on the wars. Nobody knows how they started.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Britain wasn't involved in helping to start the war in Ukraine.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: They were just all accidental things. So he skips over
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: those straight into the propaganda. I just had to show
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: that clip because it's the BBC at its best or
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: it's worse. And of course where the BBC would take
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: us is absolutely back into the political control of the
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: EU collective state, a very very dangerous place to be
• 24:12
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• 24:15
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• 28:08
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• 28:12
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• 28:17
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• 28:20
  Speaker 1: that ben That brings us back to the well, how
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: do we say, Sadiq Khan?
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: Yes, the climate crisis it's escalating apparently, and that means
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: an opportunity for Sadiq Khan to parade around London like
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: he's doing something useful. Let's have a little look at
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: what you got up to last week.
• 28:47
  Speaker 9: This week in London, we have young people, we have
• 28:50
  Speaker 9: grassroots campaigners, we have artists, we have activists, we have
• 28:54
  Speaker 9: the United Nations, we have the Royal family, we have
• 28:58
  Speaker 9: national politicians, we have reasonable ditions, we have CEE forty,
• 29:01
  Speaker 9: we have ordinary citizens and I could go on. Coming
• 29:04
  Speaker 9: together with one goal, and that is to make sure
• 29:06
  Speaker 9: that we are the solution to the challenges we face
• 29:10
  Speaker 9: across the globe and national leaders are not facing up
• 29:14
  Speaker 9: to the risks of this man made crisis.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: This week in.
• 29:18
  Speaker 9: London, we'll be hosting over thirteen one hundred events attended
• 29:24
  Speaker 9: by more than one hundred thousand people. This is the
• 29:28
  Speaker 9: biggest climate festival in the world.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Does he actually believe this nonsense?
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: I don't think he does know, but I think he does.
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: He actually said that the most honest thing he's probably
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: ever said is that this is a man made crisis,
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: but not in the sense that anthro pagenic climate change
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: is real, as in like, no, you just made it
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: all up, haven't you? Seek on but that kind of
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: gives you a sense of what they get up to
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: these season, huge, huge international program, very heavy focus on
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: the younger generation. You saw Caln there with his selfies
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: being taken. This is the kind of currency of modern politics,
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: having selfies taken with young people and basically filling them
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: with some appalling propaganda. And actually, one of the things
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: that I've been seeing recently is this idea that the
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: fossil fuels industry is fascist and Zionist. Therefore, if you
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: fight against the fossil fuels industry, then that means you're
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: fighting against Zionism, all right, So they've tried, they've kind
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: of alighted those two things together while ignoring who's actually
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: behind the climate change movement. This picture we can bring
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: on screen now is one of the most telling that
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: I saw from the whole week of events. This was
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: from Cahn's own Facebook feled I think actually be sharing
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: with his Facebook.
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: And you know, it's really interesting.
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: Here that in the foreground are the ones that you
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: hear from a lot so Shadi Khan there. Then who's
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: next to you, Antonio a good that is Secretary Generman
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: of the UN who was also the head of the
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: Socialist International, which is like one of the main global
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: progressive political parties that is actually set up for the
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: specific purposes of establishing a one world government. That's what
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: they said that we're doing when it was established in
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: the nineteen fifties.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: It's all side's absolutely hidden in places.
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: But the most important person in that picture is the
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: little chappie on the far left. We can just see
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: they're not politically far left, but just far left in
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: the picture. That is, of course Michael Bloomberg, the man
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: who is funding this whole thing. And actually this is
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: really what it's all about, right, So we took to
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: the Financial Times to talk about his new fund two
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: hundred and eighty five million pack dollars to fight against
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: the oil interests. Apparently, so this is mister Bloomberg put
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: in huge amounts into the climate movement to fight back
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: against those horrible fossil fuel interests. What the vast majority
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: of particularly young people going along with this, particularly pro
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Palestine young people, which there are many going along with
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: this they don't seem to understand is that Michael Blueberg
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: is a new b Zionist. So if you're backing the
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: climate change agender, then that is a dionist gender because
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: all the main people making the money and leading out
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: most of the communications around it, whether it's members of
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: the royal family or multinational billionaires like Bloomberg and people
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: of his ilk devil Zionists, and this is what they want, right,
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: So you know, pay attention to young people and what
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: we're actually what we're also beginning to see now, thanks
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: for Jemma for sending this over earlier on is this
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: idea that whole sways of the country are going to
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: be swallowed by the sea by twenty fifty.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: But actually they were telling is.
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: This in nineteen eighty, nineteen ninety, certainly early two thousands,
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: and no one's been swallowed by the CEA.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Same old, same old propaganda. And it's all about anxiety
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: and fear because if people are concentrating on this, they're
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: not watching what's being done in the political arena exactly.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: And who benefits can we bono as they say, Well,
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: in this instance is Bloomberg and capital money the power structure.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: They're the ones who are promoting this, and they're the
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: ones who are going to draw all the benefit from it.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: In indeed, right well we're looking at now we're going
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: to talk about James Panell, and I'm going to open
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: up with this little quote from Saul Olinsky, which I
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: love and it's very apt when you look at how
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: the system operates, which is the power goes to two poles,
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: to those who've got the money and to those who've
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: got the people. And I'm going to use this to
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: talk about James Panell, who was mentioned on the news
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: the end of last week. So he's just come back
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: into politics as Andy Burnham's chief of staff, so the
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: main guy who is going to be running his operation
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: behind the scenes. Panell, himself a longtime Labor Party member
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: and operative, including spending time as an MP, was instrumental
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: in helping to set up Offcomb in the latter years
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: of the Blair's second term. And what was noted last
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: week is that he's actually coming into this position with
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: Andy Burnham having just been the chief executive of an
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: organization called Flint Global, which is a advisory firm which
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: offers very very expensive advice to international corporations, political bodies, NGOs,
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: people operating in the global system. And it was co founded,
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: as I spoke about towards the end of last year,
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: by these two people. So that's Sir Simon Fraser, who,
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: amongst many other things, is the chair of Chatham House,
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: Royal Institute of International Affairs, and his co founder was
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: this guy is Ed Richards, who is the chair of
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: NESTOR and the Behavioral Insights Team. And the way I
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: frame those two things are people and money. So the
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: Lindsay Croat worlds power goes to two poles. Who's got
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: the people, Who's got the money? Ed Richard has got
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: the people. So this is Nestor, this is Behavioral Insights Team,
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: This is the mind space.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: Reframing and controlling the minds of the public. Yes, so
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: that they adhere to the government's policies exactly.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, as seen through COVID, certainly, but all of the
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: primate communication that's coming out at the moment, and in fact,
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: the Behavioral Insights Team has become internationally influential. I counted
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: on here sixty seven countries that they're now operating in,
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: eighty three departments across the UK Government, almost the same
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: amount in the US government, by the way, which I
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: thought was quite interesting, you know the nature of that
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: special relationship.
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: And of course it was the relationship with Sunstein in
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: America in the very early days. Yes, so the Behavioral
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: Insights Team were developing this policy absolutely in partnership with
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: the Americans. And then later we saw the French joining in.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely so Behaving Insights Team very informationial. Ed Richards
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: sits on top of that, so he's kind of on
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: the people side of things. And also Nestor before I forget,
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: which owns the Behavior Insights Team now extremely active in
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: pushing progressive policy, leading the conversation around progressive policy. This
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: plan for Britain came from Rabig Gury Murphy, the chief
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: executive of NESTA, and ed Richards' is his boss. And
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: there are just a few points jumps out of this
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: from the article, quite a long article, but he's really
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: pushing this idea of market socialism. This is exactly what
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: we were just describing earlier, is what Manchesterism is, is
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: what the Third Way is, all the same stuff. He
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: also then goes on to talk about the idea that
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: the next decade will require both higher taxes and harder choices.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: So that sounds fun, doesn't it fantastic, mister gooy Murphy.
• 37:27
  Speaker 3: And then if Manchester fails to build because of local opposition,
• 37:31
  Speaker 3: London should force it to do so, so.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: Time and time again. Then we are seeing in the
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: comments that these people make all their documentation, how they
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: just regard the state as being an enforcer. Yes, of policy,
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: you are not going to challenge as far as they're concerned.
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: You're not going to challenge government and its policies. It's
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: going to steamroller over you remember Julia Middleton, the former
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: chief executive of Common Purpose, in her book, talked about
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: steamrolling over opposition, pushing them aside, running over them, And
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: this is the same thing. So this is a brutal
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: form of government that is growing under the cover of
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: sort of humanistic socialism.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: Absolutely bruise, it's a dictatorship, you know. I think that
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: we can very reasonably use use that terminology.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: So that's the kind of left side of this diagram.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: I was just talking about the people bit, which is
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: what Ed Richards represents and is feeding into James Pernell,
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: who and what he's going to take into Downing Street
• 38:39
  Speaker 3: with him. But crucially and probably less predictably given the
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: pernels from a progressive liberal background within the Labor Party
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: is a relationship with Simon Fraser. There on the right
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: hand side of the diagram, the money side of the diagram.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: So Fraser was, amongst other things, one of our top
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: different acts. He ran the embassy network. He's now the
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: chair of Chatham House as well as maintaining a role
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: with Flint Global. And actually I think he's really useful
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: for us to remind ourself where Chatham House actually came
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: from and the role of Lord Alfred Milner in the war.
• 39:19
  Speaker 10: The key figure in this next phase was Alfred Milner.
• 39:22
  Speaker 10: Milner was appointed High Commissioner for South Africa in eighteen
• 39:24
  Speaker 10: ninety seven, and from the moment he arrived his agenda
• 39:27
  Speaker 10: was clear. He believed that British supremacy in Southern Africa
• 39:31
  Speaker 10: was non negotiable and he was willing to engineer a
• 39:33
  Speaker 10: war to achieve it. Milner was brilliant, cold, and utterly
• 39:36
  Speaker 10: convinced of his own righteousness.
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: He had been.
• 39:39
  Speaker 10: Educated at Oxford, had served in Egypt, and possessed the
• 39:42
  Speaker 10: kind of imperial confidence that brooked no compromise. Milner quickly
• 39:45
  Speaker 10: assessed the situation and concluded that the Transvall would never
• 39:49
  Speaker 10: voluntarily submit to British control. Kruger had been re elected
• 39:52
  Speaker 10: in eighteen ninety eight with an overwhelming mandate, and the
• 39:55
  Speaker 10: discovery of gold had given his republic the financial resources
• 39:58
  Speaker 10: to resist British pressure. Milner told the Colonial Secretary Joseph
• 40:02
  Speaker 10: Chamberlain that a crisis would have to be engineered. Those
• 40:05
  Speaker 10: were essentially his words. He would use the weight Lander
• 40:08
  Speaker 10: grievances as the pretext, but the real objective was always
• 40:11
  Speaker 10: the same, to bring the Transvall in its gold under
• 40:14
  Speaker 10: British sovereignty.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: So that was a clip from a film about the
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: bur War and the British involvement in South Africa with
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: gold mining and diamond mining Cecil Roads, and importantly Lord
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: Milner has reference in that clip, who then through the
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: war went on to be responsible for the deaths of
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: over twenty two thousand British troops, invented the concentration camp,
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: in which over forty thousand women and children mainly died.
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: He then went on to actually write the Bow for
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: Declaration and then founded Chatham House. So those are the
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: people who are obsessed with British supremacy, who'll do anything
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: to achieve it and to maintain it, establishing institutions like Chathamhouse,
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: which is where Simon Fraser is currently the chair he
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: sits on top of Flint Global, and that's also what's
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: being taken into number ten with James Parnell as Andy
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: Burnham's cheaper staff. Now, just a very quick one to
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: wrap this section up. I talked about Simon Fraser being
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: involved with Chathamhouse. Is also on the board of the
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: Ditchley Foundation, and I came across this photo on the
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: Ditchy website. Who do you recognize here, Brian, I'll just
• 41:36
  Speaker 3: it's a spooky face. It's a speaky face. That's Blaze
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: measured Reley, the head of six. Is she there with
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: on this lovely away day out in the Oxfordchief countryside?
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: So that is Louis Moseley from Panete Just now, I
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: wonder if they knew each other.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: This was a accident.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: And then that's Matt Clifford, who's the guy that was
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: the AI sherpa to the AI summit, so one of
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: the most powerful people in the civil service. We'll certainly
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: circulating around the civil service. And finally that guy Mark
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: Warner was the founder of something called Faculty, which was
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: brought by Accenture, which is Anderson Consulting rebranded and he's
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: now their global CEO.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: So just on that one image, you've.
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: Got three of the most powerful people in the UK
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: and artificial intelligence to go ahead of micix on a
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: lovelier way day the Ditsy Foundation, which is basically cham
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: house away ay venue in the country with the way
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: I understand it.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: There's no minutes, no public account.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: To certainly not certainly not. Yeah, So anyway, that's what's
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: going into Downing Street.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: Ben, thank you very much for that. So this is
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: a look, a deep look into real politics and the
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: power operates in the UK. We're going to come back
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: a little bit now and just have a look at
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: some of the more political reactions to things unfolding in UK.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: So this is this is also warning about the change
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: of politics in this country, but we're coming in from
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: a slightly different direction.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Of course.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: Immigration, migration, very very hot topic. BBC here is getting
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: very excited because it says UK migration has dropped to
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy one thousand, almost half twenty twenty
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: four's figure. I mean is that really sustainable in any
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: shape or form. Can a country have any piece if
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: continually we've got a vast number of people coming into
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: the country. So while the reality is approved facilitated migration,
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: of course a lot of people talking about illegal immigration,
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: a very very tiny percentage of the overall migration immigration figures.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Now the topic is getting more interesting because obviously Andy
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Burnham is very keen that the migration continues, and you
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: saw that headline earlier on where the goverment is trying
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: to rethink things. So here we've got home Secutuary my
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: mood seeks Canada style asylum sponsorship route into UK. There
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: was more being talked about this over the weekend. But
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: this is the means by which migration is facilitated by
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: governments who then pretend that they have no idea how
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: so many how so many people come into the country.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: So this is duplicitous politics. But if you know where
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: to look, you can see what's happening. Now let's jump
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: across to Wales as an interesting country and let's have
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: a look at the politics and what's being said in
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: Wales around a number of issues. We're going to kick
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: off with the leader talking about two futures.
• 44:53
  Speaker 7: On mad the sense you'll have a choice to make
• 44:56
  Speaker 7: about the whales you want, and the kind of future
• 45:00
  Speaker 7: want to see. This campaign has been a journey and
• 45:09
  Speaker 7: it's been an honor to meet so many of you,
• 45:11
  Speaker 7: hearing about your hopes and your ambitions and what matters
• 45:15
  Speaker 7: to you. You've been telling me that you just want
• 45:24
  Speaker 7: things to work better, to want to wake up and
• 45:26
  Speaker 7: not have to worry about what comes next, the light
• 45:29
  Speaker 7: at the end of the tunnel, and you've told me
• 45:32
  Speaker 7: that you care about your community and your country.
• 45:41
  Speaker 11: For decades, Wills has been shortchanged by Westminster governments that
• 45:46
  Speaker 11: don't listen.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: So lots of spinning there the happy music. Of course
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: people yep, they just want to get on with their lives.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: They want to wake up one day and get on
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: and work and enjoy their family leads and enjoy a
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: stable country. Well that's not coming, and we're an app
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: wherewith the Leader of Widegomery if I pronounced that correctly,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: of course, is giving this very glossy image. But what's
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: the problem. Well, it's that nasty Westminster government which has
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: been depriving Wales of its proper heritage. So that's the
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: spin from the top of the party. But what's really
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: coming inside. Well, let's have a listen to Williams here
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: from the Senate talking about some issues.
• 46:36
  Speaker 6: The plan rightly place is a firm focus on the
• 46:38
  Speaker 6: criminal justice system as an area in which there is
• 46:41
  Speaker 6: racial injustice as regards its treatment of and outcomes for
• 46:45
  Speaker 6: people from ethnic minorities. The plan states it is only
• 46:49
  Speaker 6: when we have full oversight of the justice system in
• 46:52
  Speaker 6: Wales that we will be able to fully align its
• 46:54
  Speaker 6: delivery with the needs and priorities of minority ethnic communities
• 46:58
  Speaker 6: of Wales, and devolution of the police and justice system
• 47:02
  Speaker 6: is the most sustainable way of creating a justice system
• 47:05
  Speaker 6: that is anti racist and fully meets the diverse needs
• 47:09
  Speaker 6: of the people in Wales.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Well, there's some nuances there a justice system that's anti racist,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: that means it's pro something.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: What do you think they're battering round for communism? It's incredible,
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: isn't it right?
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: The state must step in and protect these poor marginalized communities.
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: And the only reason these poor marginalized communities are here
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: is because we brought them.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Here, indeed, and we're going to change the system to
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: have positive discrimination, to get a positive outcome. So if
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: you think you're Welsh and you're going to be waking
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: up one morning to that relaxed future, the sunshine, as
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: the leader said, No, you are going to be further
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: down the food chain as other people's interests are promoted
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: over and above yours, and both the police and the
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: courts are going to enforce that. Let's hear a little
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: bit more from the same lady.
• 48:06
  Speaker 12: We've already seen some of the national institutions be challenged
• 48:10
  Speaker 12: on their work on decolonization, facing vile abuse online and
• 48:15
  Speaker 12: being questioned by those that don't agree with Wales's direction here.
• 48:20
  Speaker 12: We also need to be very clear that we are
• 48:21
  Speaker 12: taking a different direction to England. I'm pleased to see
• 48:24
  Speaker 12: in the Action Plan in relation to Culture, Heritage and
• 48:27
  Speaker 12: Sport a commitment to ensuring that more applicant applications are
• 48:31
  Speaker 12: made by Black Asian and minority ethnic people, but crucially
• 48:35
  Speaker 12: more appointment too as employees and also as board members.
• 48:40
  Speaker 12: We're also aware, of course that no one non white
• 48:43
  Speaker 12: applied for the role of Chair of Sports Wales. There
• 48:47
  Speaker 12: is work for us to do in this area and
• 48:50
  Speaker 12: elsewhere in the plan there are specific actions relations to
• 48:53
  Speaker 12: public appointment.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: So more positive discrimination from that. Sorry, that particular lady.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: I'll check on the news, check on the names and
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: make a correction there in the show notes afterwards. But
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: essentially you can see what is really coming through. This
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: is not a society where everybody is equal. This is
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: a society which is pushing these central government agendas as
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: to what sort of society you will be allowed to
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: live in. And at the moment it doesn't matter whether
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: you're Scottish or English or Welsh from Northern Ireland. Your
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: position at the moment is at the middle of the
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: food chain and you're shortly to be pushed to the
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: bottom as these positive, positive, discriminatory agendas come in. I've
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: got one more comment in this video for you.
• 49:53
  Speaker 5: Now.
• 49:54
  Speaker 11: To conflate the issue of immigration with the Nation of
• 49:57
  Speaker 11: sanctuary and before and then of course there's some of
• 49:59
  Speaker 11: the vile stuff that we've just been hearing is actually
• 50:02
  Speaker 11: really shocking. I think is disturbing now given that immigration
• 50:07
  Speaker 11: and security checks are actually governed by robust UK wide systems,
• 50:12
  Speaker 11: and of course the Whales Nation of Sanctuary is about
• 50:15
  Speaker 11: integration and support. Does the First Minister then agree, thus
• 50:19
  Speaker 11: suggesting this link between sanctuary and risk to public safety
• 50:25
  Speaker 11: is not supported by evidence and actually risks unnecessarily stoking
• 50:30
  Speaker 11: up fear amongst our communities and amongst the public of Wales.
• 50:37
  Speaker 7: I certainly associate myself with those comments and agree with them.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: So I just make clear that the inset image there
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: was by the person who'd uploaded that video to the Internet,
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: because this emphasize is the deep concern that people have.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: But I think it's very very clear as Wales bushes
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: for ever more devolution from that nasty Westminster that it
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: isn't going to bring a society which is for the Welsh.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: This is going to bring the new society along the
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: lines that have been implemented by the central government control.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: So it's to me pretty astonishing this.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: Those clips are extraordinary, Yeah, the total denial of the
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: obvious truth of things like saying, how can you associate
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: a sanctuary city with immigration?
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: Well, that's what what are you talking about?
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: Well, let's is that one along. Ben put it on screen.
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: Here's the website Wales and Nation of Sanctuary. Wales is
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: aiming to become the world's first nation of sanctuary. Nation
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: of Sanctuary is a sub movement of City of Sanctuary UK.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: The vision is of a Wales, in which wherever people
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: seeking sanctuary go they are met with welcome, understanding and
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: celebration of their unique contribution to the rich tapestry of
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: Welsh life. So never mind the generations of Welsh people
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: that have been living in Wales and creating that rich
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: tapestry of life. We have a new agenda of people
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: who are going to receive prior to including in policing
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: and that law. So I'll just pop a little bit
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: more on screen. This is actually the City of Sanctuary
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: UK website itself, and there you can see all of
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: the cities that have signed up for this. So every
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: city that's signed up for this agenda is absolutely saying
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: that newcomers or whatever origin are going to be placed
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: above local people. This is pretty incredible. So how can
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: we contrast what's actually happening on the ground in Wales
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: with what's happening in low Call politics. Well let's take
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: the same issue and bring mister Lowe on screen. And
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: I've got three clips here where he's talking about migration immigration.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: Let's hear what low has to say.
• 53:17
  Speaker 13: I'm going to read a short passage from your foreword
• 53:19
  Speaker 13: to the report, which I think is you know, can
• 53:21
  Speaker 13: sort of preside over this conversation we're about to have
• 53:24
  Speaker 13: about Manchester, which is obviously one of the hot spots
• 53:26
  Speaker 13: where this kind of thing has been going on. You
• 53:29
  Speaker 13: spoke about the cause of this, and I think we
• 53:31
  Speaker 13: addressed this very well in this introduction. You say the
• 53:33
  Speaker 13: root cause was immigration, beginning with the British Nationality Act
• 53:37
  Speaker 13: in nineteen forty eight and escalating under Tony Blair from
• 53:39
  Speaker 13: nineteen ninety seven onwards. Believing proud nations to be responsible
• 53:43
  Speaker 13: for the mid twentieth century destruction of Europe, our post
• 53:45
  Speaker 13: war leaders embrace diversity and multiculturalism as the supposedly civilized alternative.
• 53:50
  Speaker 13: This report establishes beyond any doubt that this open society
• 53:54
  Speaker 13: obsession has in fact enabled untold barbarism of its own.
• 53:58
  Speaker 13: Oil and water do not mix, and cultural differences going
• 54:00
  Speaker 13: back centuries are the genesis of this problem.
• 54:04
  Speaker 14: Well, I've made it very clear, and I've made it
• 54:05
  Speaker 14: very clear on various interviews and podcasts that I've done
• 54:09
  Speaker 14: that multiculturalism was the way in which I think post
• 54:13
  Speaker 14: war Europe decided it was going to undermine the nation
• 54:17
  Speaker 14: state and undermine the cohesion that created the high trust
• 54:20
  Speaker 14: societies that we have developed over many thousands of years,
• 54:24
  Speaker 14: and they don't develop overnight. So I think it's meant
• 54:29
  Speaker 14: that it's brought in people who don't understand how we operate.
• 54:33
  Speaker 14: And I've said in the past Lequan you came to
• 54:36
  Speaker 14: London after the war and he modeled Singapore, which by
• 54:39
  Speaker 14: the way, is an incredibly successful society now on postwar England,
• 54:44
  Speaker 14: where you had total trust, you had people with honesty
• 54:48
  Speaker 14: boxes for newspapers in London, and the whole thing was
• 54:52
  Speaker 14: a nation state at peace with itself. But in order
• 54:56
  Speaker 14: to undermine our nation state, they had to create this
• 55:01
  Speaker 14: multicultural society. So I think multiculturalism, as Enoch pal said
• 55:06
  Speaker 14: in sixty nine, is undesirable and it has palpably failed. Yes,
• 55:11
  Speaker 14: But in dealing with the issue, I think what we've
• 55:14
  Speaker 14: always said, and it's in our mass deportations document. We've
• 55:19
  Speaker 14: actually produced a documents so people can read what our
• 55:23
  Speaker 14: plan is to try and restore the British constitution and
• 55:28
  Speaker 14: Britain for the tax paying, honorable, decent, law abiding British people.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: So I'm sure there'd be some restore people listening in
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: who will take a little bit of issue with what
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: I'm going to say, But it's what low does not
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: say that's key. So one of the statements he made
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: is that post war Europe decided. Europe decided. No, it's individuals,
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: it's people that make decisions. So who mister Lowe made
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: the decisions which cause the problem. He doesn't deal with
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: that question. That's just left the one side. And then
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: he talks about the undermining of our nation state. They
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: he doesn't qualify who they are. Well, what you've been
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: doing consistently, Ben over months now, well in fact, over
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: a year, is to actually drill into the people who
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: are making the policies which are destroying the country. But
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: a great weakness here of restore mister Lowe in particular,
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: is he is not addressing who the people are and
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: who the organizations are which are bringing in the policies
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: which are destroying the country. And if we're going to
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: correct the problem, we need to know who's causing the problem.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: And to his credit, mister Lowe does admit that it's
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: not the fault of the people coming into the country.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: It is the fault of the people that created the policies.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: Let's just follow on. This is the next segment from
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: the same clip.
• 57:01
  Speaker 14: And that starts as we know, we're detaining and deporting
• 57:05
  Speaker 14: people arriving illegally, then finding and deporting people living here illegally,
• 57:10
  Speaker 14: then deporting the ten and a half thousand foreign criminals
• 57:15
  Speaker 14: in our prisons, and then we turn our attention in
• 57:17
  Speaker 14: the same way that Sweden and Denmark have to sorting
• 57:21
  Speaker 14: out people who are living here on benefits who've never
• 57:23
  Speaker 14: contributed to Britain. And we do it by basically dealing
• 57:27
  Speaker 14: with the welfareism. So we reduce welfaireism. We create a
• 57:31
  Speaker 14: hostile environment, and we encourage people to go home naturally,
• 57:35
  Speaker 14: and at the same time, if necessary, we incentivize them
• 57:39
  Speaker 14: to leave. But what we can't do is be unfair
• 57:43
  Speaker 14: or illegal towards people who, through no fold of their own,
• 57:47
  Speaker 14: have been encouraged in a thoroughly underhand, devious and misguided
• 57:54
  Speaker 14: way to come and settle here. And if they're contributing
• 57:57
  Speaker 14: to our economy, as I've said in the past, and
• 58:00
  Speaker 14: they are making a sort of valuable payment of taxes
• 58:05
  Speaker 14: and a contribution, and they accept our laws and they've
• 58:08
  Speaker 14: integrated into society. There are people who don't think that
• 58:12
  Speaker 14: is desirable, but nevertheless they've come here in good faith
• 58:16
  Speaker 14: and we cannot treat them in a way which is
• 58:19
  Speaker 14: not either legal or fair.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: So, just like the grooming gangs, what mister Lowe is
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: doing here is focusing on the small percentage of the
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: illegal migrants. What he's not doing is concentrating on the
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: overall numbers and who created what he states our devious,
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: underhand policies that made these things happen. Neither is he
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: focusing on who is making these policies. So we can
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: get rid of all these illegal migrants in the country,
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: but we're still then left with the problem that we've
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: got people inside the country that are creating the problem
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: politically in the first place, and these are never identified.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: So this is a very emotive delivery by low but
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: it's not actually taking us to a solution because he
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: doesn't identify who's causing the problem. Now just bring up
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: on screen substack. Well, this is X, but it's Frank Wright, Substack.
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: The status of Pete victim is contested at your expense.
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: This is a really good article where he's talking about
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: essentially how a variety of topics are being used to
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: play a game with people's minds. The divide and rule
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: as you speak about Ben and encourage people to have
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: a read of that article because we have to understand
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: the mind games being used before we can get to
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: the solutions. And if I move on one, the transagender
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: is also a part of this grievance industry. Look at
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: the headline from the Telegraph here parents risk jail if
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: they try way to talk children out of trans treatment.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: So this is very, very dangerous stuff, but also it's
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: encouraging to know that people are picking up on it.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: This Lady Helen Webberley being broadcast on many of the
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: bigger media channels. She is absolutely for the trans agenda
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: and changing supposedly changing children's gender. But really what is
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: the agenda? Well, it's an eyes wide shut a gender.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: Ben over to you.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: It might have something to do with what we're going
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: to talk about now. Actually when you think about agendas,
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  Speaker 3: because the king has changed his your definition incredibly so,
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  Speaker 3: I mean it's probably not that incredible, is it. We've
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  Speaker 3: had this idea of defender of faith as opposed to
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  Speaker 3: defender of the faith been circulating for probably the best
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  Speaker 3: part of twenty years now, to be honest with you,
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  Speaker 3: but it's now officially happened. The King's official job is
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  Speaker 3: to protect faith within the most faith nation. That's what
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  Speaker 3: we are now is a multi faith nation. It's a
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  Speaker 3: newly published definition. It's come from the Palace and this
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  Speaker 3: is this is quite a big deal. So it changes
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  Speaker 3: the description of the king's role ahead of the nation
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  Speaker 3: when he was the head of the Church of England
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  Speaker 3: and defender of the faith, which is what was actually
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  Speaker 3: in his coronation oath. So he took the oath and
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  Speaker 3: then see years later he's just said, well, actually that
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  Speaker 3: I didn't really like that much, so I'm going to
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  Speaker 3: change it retrospectively.
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  Speaker 2: Can you do that?
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  Speaker 1: Well, he can do anything, and you know, surprisely one
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  Speaker 1: moment he's a Christian, then he's hinting that he's Jewish,
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  Speaker 1: order's Jewish connections, and now we've moved on to other
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  Speaker 1: He can be anything. He's all things to all men.
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  Speaker 1: So he certainly can't be a Christian. Is something very different?
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  Speaker 3: He certainly is, yes, So but this is I see,
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  Speaker 3: this isn't as a direct attack on Christianity. It comes
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  Speaker 3: hot on the heels of the Bill C nine in Canada,
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  Speaker 3: which was the Combating Hate Act, which is the Liberal
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  Speaker 3: government's response to arise in so called hatred. The hundreds
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  Speaker 3: of thousands of Canadians have written to Parliament to oppose
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  Speaker 3: the bill, but last week it received royal assent. So
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  Speaker 3: the King has given his assent to this at exactly
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  Speaker 3: the same time as he's come through and said that
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  Speaker 3: he's now the defender of faith. The Canadian Constitution Foundation
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  Speaker 3: had these words to say, Bill C nine has removed
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  Speaker 3: the good faith religious expression defense from convictions for criminal
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  Speaker 3: hate speech. It is a legal under section three to
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  Speaker 3: one nine one of the Criminal Code to we publicly
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  Speaker 3: incite hatred by communicating statements in any public place that
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  Speaker 3: incite hatred against any identifiable group where such insigement is
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  Speaker 3: likely to lead to a breach of the peace, and
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  Speaker 3: goes on to say that's also a legal under section
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  Speaker 3: three one ninety two of the Criminal Code to communicate
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  Speaker 3: statements other than in private conversation that wilfully promotes hatred
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  Speaker 3: against any identifiable group, and under another provision, to willfully
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  Speaker 3: promote anti Semitism by communicating statements other than in private conversation.
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  Speaker 3: Can owning, denying, or downplaying the Holocaust, which probably tells
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  Speaker 3: us a little bit about what's actually going on.
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  Speaker 2: Here.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure it does. But of course, the way that's
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  Speaker 1: this legislation is written, it's always with enough flexibility that
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: the politically imposed judge adjudicating in your case will make
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  Speaker 1: his decision on your guilt or otherwise based on his
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: interpretation of the words. So this is catchual legislation to
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  Speaker 1: make sure you daren't speak out about anything which is
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  Speaker 1: causing your trouble.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, And another blog that was sent to me says
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  Speaker 3: that Canada has banned history and the Bible. That's the
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  Speaker 3: way this is being interpreted. And I think we should
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  Speaker 3: also just remember that Charles was involved last year for
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  Speaker 3: eighteen months ago January twenty five in the drum Land
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  Speaker 3: Big Accords, which are reported on back in October, which
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 3: is the Muslim Jewish Reconciliation Accords, a framework for coordination
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 3: between the senior members of the Jewish and the Muslim
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  Speaker 3: community here in the UK to promote shared objectives at
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: the expense therefore of everyone else. And actually this sort
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: of slow creeping push towards criminalization of Christian doctrine is
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  Speaker 3: I think probably the most important thing going on right
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  Speaker 3: now in the country, and no one's talking about it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we are ben Well. We are absolutely are Brian.
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  Speaker 1: We are extremely heavy news today. We knew this would
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  Speaker 1: be the case. But it's very important that adults in
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: the United Kingdom in twenty twenty six understand what's really happening.
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  Speaker 1: There is a dictatorship unfolding very very quickly. In our opinion,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: Andy Burnham is part of that readership, whether he realizes
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: it or not, and how it stopped is by people
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  Speaker 1: becoming active at local level. So we are going to
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  Speaker 1: make sure that in future news programs are also going
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  Speaker 1: to focus in on what people are doing and they
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: can do to challenge this sort of policy at local level. Remember,
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: if the rules based international order cannot get its policies
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  Speaker 1: in position at ground level amongst individuals and families and
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: local communities, it is not winning. So it's a high
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: level battle against very powerful people and forces. But the
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  Speaker 1: solution is to fight it at a very local level.
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  Speaker 1: So just wanted to add a bit of positive end
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  Speaker 1: to the news. But you've got an uplifting picture for us,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: particularly for those with a nautical.
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  Speaker 2: Bent.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe yes, there you go, the things you see walking
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: around Plymouth on the weekend. So this was yesterday, the
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: Santa Maria Manuela, which is a Portuguese sailing ship which
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: is really striking just morning down by the Barbicane And
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  Speaker 3: to give you a real sense of what it looks like,
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  Speaker 3: because you know this is quite a nice pay that's
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  Speaker 3: what it actually looks like. Yeah, it's a stunning bit
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  Speaker 3: of kit it's beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: It's beautiful and there's something about the sea which changes
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: your whole view on the world, but we'll leave that
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  Speaker 11: No