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The Late Debate | 3 November · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: General Man, welcome they wait to bay.
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  Speaker 2: Well, good evening and thanks for joining us on the
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  Speaker 2: late debate.
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  Speaker 3: I'm James Macpherson with Freilitch and Caleb Bond coming up
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  Speaker 3: tonight Queensland kindergartens asking for the pronouns of four year
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  Speaker 3: olds and wait until you hear the Education Minister's response. Plus,
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  Speaker 3: while the Coalition debate net zero, Donald Trump is spending
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  Speaker 3: millions firing up coalpipe coal power stations, and millionaire pop
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  Speaker 3: star Billy Eilish tells billionaires she can't imagine why they
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  Speaker 3: aren't giving their money away. We'll get to all of
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  Speaker 3: that shortly, but first, politicians can handle disagreement. They can
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  Speaker 3: furrow their brows, pretend to listen and issue a sternly
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  Speaker 3: worded press release. But laughter, well that's where the facade collapses,
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  Speaker 3: because comedy doesn't negotiate with stupidity, it exposes it. And
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  Speaker 3: once the mockery starts, well there's no hiding that the
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  Speaker 3: emperor is naked, which brings me to just center Allen
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  Speaker 3: Victoria's premier may be discovered bring the worst fate in
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  Speaker 3: politics when outrage mutates into laughter. Melbourne's crime spiral has
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  Speaker 3: now entered Comedy Territory. Social media influencers are calling the
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  Speaker 3: city Gotham and making videos mocking the idea that Melbourne
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  Speaker 3: is safe. And it's not just global media influencers. This
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  Speaker 3: photo of a football addressed up for his Mad Monday
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  Speaker 3: celebration as a machete disposal bin that's gone viral. Melbourne
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  Speaker 3: is now a laughing stock and laughter is a political
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  Speaker 3: weapon Farsha with than the machetes. Just Into Ellen claims
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  Speaker 3: to be concerned about She can reannounce her tough on
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  Speaker 3: crime plans all she likes, but Freyer, you can't announce.
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  Speaker 2: Your way out of ridicule. These mock videos going viral.
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  Speaker 3: Does this signal a change in the mood in Victoria
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  Speaker 3: and trouble for just Into Ellen?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I really hope so. And if you look at
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  Speaker 4: the demographic, the average age of the people in those photos,
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  Speaker 4: they're often young people and this has become somewhat of
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  Speaker 4: a trend on social media and I think that's really
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  Speaker 4: how you start to change the culture. The problem for
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  Speaker 4: the right in Australia politically is that among young people,
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  Speaker 4: the culture is that you just vote left, you just
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  Speaker 4: vote for labor, and if you're really virtuous you'll vote
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  Speaker 4: for the Greens. But to see something like this mocking
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  Speaker 4: the crime crisis in Victoria making its way into the
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  Speaker 4: mainstream online culture is pretty profound. But the question is
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  Speaker 4: will this actually change any votes? Will these young people
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  Speaker 4: go Hang on a second, I feel like what I'm
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  Speaker 4: walking home at night and I have to look over
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  Speaker 4: my shoulder every two seconds. That's not how it's supposed
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  Speaker 4: to be. Maybe we should change the government. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if it's going to go that far, and I
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  Speaker 4: think this is the time. If the Victorian Liberals can
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  Speaker 4: get their act together and capitalize on this moment, it'll
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  Speaker 4: be great. But knowing a lot of gen Z, they'll
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  Speaker 4: probably just go, great, we'll vote for the Greens instead.
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  Speaker 5: Well, and that's the point, RADI. It's one thing for
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  Speaker 5: Victoria to become a laughing stock and to become a
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  Speaker 5: joke and for people to feel unsafe in Melbourne, which
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  Speaker 5: we know because there was that report recently from the
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  Speaker 5: Melbourne City Council that said, you know, three and five
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  Speaker 5: people don't feel safe at night and twenty three percent
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  Speaker 5: of people don't feel safe during the day in the
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  Speaker 5: Melbourne CBD, more than one.
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  Speaker 1: In five, which is just crazy.
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  Speaker 5: But you've then got to make the leap from there
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  Speaker 5: to people connecting that to the politics. And it's really
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  Speaker 5: up to the opposition in Victoria to get about doing that,
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  Speaker 5: because if you have got young people online making viral
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  Speaker 5: jokes about the state of crime in Victoria, there's no
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  Speaker 5: reason that they shouldn't be able to start getting in
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  Speaker 5: on that themselves, if they've got smart enough people to
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  Speaker 5: advise and create the content and join in the fun,
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  Speaker 5: because that's essentially what you have to do, and it
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  Speaker 5: is you know. I was down there on the weekend
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  Speaker 5: for Derby Day and I tuned in in the hotel
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  Speaker 5: on Saturday morning to racing dot Com that I'll see
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  Speaker 5: what the tipsters are saying about the day ahead, and
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  Speaker 5: they were talking about a horse that was actually running
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  Speaker 5: in Sydney at Randwick called I Stole a Mirk, and
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  Speaker 5: one of the tipsters noted, well, that horse will do
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  Speaker 5: very well.
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  Speaker 1: When it comes down to Melbourne.
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  Speaker 5: And there was another moment when I got to the
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  Speaker 5: track at Flemington and they were wanding people as you
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  Speaker 5: came in and I just made a sort of offhanded
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  Speaker 5: joke as I was standing in line. Oh well gee,
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  Speaker 5: they didn't find my machete, and people almost fell to
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  Speaker 5: the ground with laughter because it was like, this is
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  Speaker 5: something that is so on their minds in Melbourne at
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  Speaker 5: the moment that that was her genuinely funny jack and
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  Speaker 5: then someone charmed in about oh, well didn't you put
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  Speaker 5: it in the bin and all like this is actually
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  Speaker 5: how people are thinking down there, which is amazing. And
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  Speaker 5: if Jacinda Allen is not looking at that, even though
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  Speaker 5: it may not cost to her premiership, but the way
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  Speaker 5: it reflects on her and her state and the way
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  Speaker 5: that then reflects to the rest of the country because
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  Speaker 5: tourism is important as well, she really should be taking no.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the joke is on Melbourne, right, but the
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  Speaker 3: punchline is really just and she's ripe for it. I
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  Speaker 3: mean the way she stands there time and again insisting
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  Speaker 3: the Melbourne CBD is safe when all the evidence is
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  Speaker 3: to the contrary, and she's the only one who's saying
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  Speaker 3: not even Nicholas Reese is saying that the Melbourne CBD
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  Speaker 3: is safe.
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  Speaker 2: He's the mayor.
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  Speaker 3: And then after every machete attack she comes out and
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  Speaker 3: says the machete band is working. So she reminds me
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  Speaker 3: of do you remember that during the Gulf War they
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  Speaker 3: called him Comical Ali.
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  Speaker 2: He was the Iraqi information minister.
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  Speaker 3: Who used to come out every day and talk about
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  Speaker 3: how the Iraqi forces were doing just fine and they
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  Speaker 3: were managing to withhold the US military. Just sent to
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  Speaker 3: Allen is the comical Ali of Victoria of Australia?
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  Speaker 2: Really?
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  Speaker 4: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you know, she may well be Schultz
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  Speaker 1: as well. Nothing.
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  Speaker 2: No, that was Dan Andrews.
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  Speaker 5: How many times has he come before? I back on things?
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  Speaker 5: About five times? He comes out unscathed every single time.
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  Speaker 5: Let's go up to Queensland. Where would you believe it?
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  Speaker 5: Another disturbing development in terms of gender ideology being pushed
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  Speaker 5: upon children, this time kindergarten kids.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 5: So it turns out when you moved from kindergarten into
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  Speaker 5: primary school, the kindergarten teachers put together something of adossia
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  Speaker 5: to hand over to the primary school teachers that sort
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  Speaker 5: of informs them about the kid and what their strengths
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  Speaker 5: and weaknesses.
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  Speaker 1: Are and all of this sort of stuff.
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  Speaker 5: And in the process of that, the parents have to
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  Speaker 5: fill out some consent form. And on these consent forms
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  Speaker 5: which are sent out by the Queensland Curriculum and Assessment Authority,
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  Speaker 5: they are asking whether children are he it was it he, him, she,
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  Speaker 5: her or they them? And in fact, in this year's
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  Speaker 5: cohort this is from the report in the Australian Today,
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  Speaker 5: forty six kindergarten children have been identified by their parents
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  Speaker 5: as using the pronouns they them. Now, of course, the
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  Speaker 5: first question is does the kid even know that that's
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  Speaker 5: what their parent wants of them? Is this a decision
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  Speaker 5: that the kid has made, or is it a parent
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  Speaker 5: simply saying, oh, you know, I don't think that my
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  Speaker 5: child should have external things put upon them while they
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  Speaker 5: can decide when they're older whether or not they're he,
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  Speaker 5: she or he who whatever? Right, So it could be
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  Speaker 5: either you've got the kids saying that they are they them,
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  Speaker 5: how did the kid come up with that in the
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  Speaker 5: first place?
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  Speaker 1: Or parents are basically.
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  Speaker 5: Forcing their children to live though they are non binary.
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  Speaker 5: And then, of course the next step is that if
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  Speaker 5: the schools are asking for this or this curriculum authority
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  Speaker 5: is asking for this, and the parents tell the school this,
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  Speaker 5: it's then sort of incumbent upon the school to use
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  Speaker 5: those pronouns at school. Now, how difficult do you think
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  Speaker 5: that is for other kids in the classroom. You know
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  Speaker 5: that's he, that's a she, But little billy over there
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  Speaker 5: is a they them.
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  Speaker 1: You've got four or five.
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  Speaker 5: Year olds now having to grapple with all of this nonsense.
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  Speaker 5: And so a parent who saw this on the consent
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  Speaker 5: form wrote off to the Education Minister in Queensland, John
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  Speaker 5: Paul Langbrook, and said she was disgusted by this, and
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  Speaker 5: she received a note back from John Paul Langbrook saying
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  Speaker 5: that because the Queensland Curriculum and Assessment Authority is an
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  Speaker 5: independent statutory body, he has no authority to do anything
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  Speaker 5: about it, and so this consent form just goes on
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  Speaker 5: as is and all the kids can be they vim's.
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  Speaker 5: He also said that he was well informed that it
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  Speaker 5: quote would foster inclusion and recognize.
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  Speaker 1: Diversity in our community.
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  Speaker 5: I'm sorry, you know you're pushing it upon four and
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  Speaker 5: five year old children. They wouldn't have a clue about
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  Speaker 5: what the hell they then even is. They want to
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  Speaker 5: play in the sand pit and do the sort of
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  Speaker 5: things that kids do. You don't introduce this stuff to
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  Speaker 5: them early unless you want it introduced to them early
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  Speaker 5: so you can start infecting their masks.
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  Speaker 3: So so question what is the point of the Queensid
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  Speaker 3: Education Minister if he's not overseeing the education department and
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  Speaker 3: when they are promoting rubbish like this for him to
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  Speaker 3: shrug and say, not my responsibility, well, then appoint an
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  Speaker 3: education minister who will take responsibility. As for what you said, Caleb,
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  Speaker 3: you know this is part of fostering inclusion and diversity.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's laughable. And then he went on to
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  Speaker 3: say parents are best place to fill out the form. Now,
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  Speaker 3: I'm all for parental authority and for parents to take
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  Speaker 3: responsibility and parents may be best place to fill out
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  Speaker 3: the form, but the Education Minister is best placed to
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  Speaker 3: make sure that this kind of ideological rubbish is not
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  Speaker 3: foisted upon them in the first place. And one more thing,
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  Speaker 3: freyer about the Education Minister, John Paul Lambrook. He was
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  Speaker 3: asked by the Australian well, what's your personal view on
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  Speaker 3: this and do you know what? He said nothing, He
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  Speaker 3: declined to comment. And this is such a disappointment from
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  Speaker 3: the LNP in Queensland, who many voted for because they
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  Speaker 3: wanted a conservative government. There are many Christians who are
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  Speaker 3: part of that government, many Christian MPs. And to have
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  Speaker 3: your Education minister not even want to offer a comment
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  Speaker 3: on something that's so blindingly obvious.
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  Speaker 2: You have boys, you have girls. That's it.
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  Speaker 3: There is no such thing as they Them's for the
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  Speaker 3: Education Department to be asking that question and for the
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  Speaker 3: Minister to say, can't do anything about it. It's part
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  Speaker 3: of diversity. Where I'll leave it to the parents and
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  Speaker 3: I don't have an opinion.
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  Speaker 4: Is absolute garbage, a complete cop out. And look, if
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  Speaker 4: you'd ask five year old me what my pronouns were
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  Speaker 4: on Monday, it would have been she her, On Tuesday
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  Speaker 4: would have been unicorn, and on Wednesday would have been princess.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, you don't know what you were when you're five.
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  Speaker 4: I wanted to be a new thing every single day.
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  Speaker 4: That's part of being a child, and that's why you
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  Speaker 4: need an adult to go No. I know you think
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  Speaker 4: you're a princess. I know you like Disney, but you're
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  Speaker 4: actually a girl. And isn't it great that you get
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  Speaker 4: to enjoy this life and blah blah blah. You don't
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  Speaker 4: reinforce the delusion. And frankly, I think the forty six
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  Speaker 4: families that nominated they them for their children's pronouns should
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  Speaker 4: be investigated. What are they telling their children why do
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  Speaker 4: they think their children are non binary? Because they're probably not.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, what does that even mean for a child
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  Speaker 4: to be non binary? What does it mean for anyone?
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  Speaker 4: This is not about parental choice. This is about parental
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  Speaker 4: delusion or parental agenda pushing, and it's going to be
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  Speaker 4: children that suffer the lifelong consequences of it. And one
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  Speaker 4: of the points that one of the psychiatrists who commented
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  Speaker 4: on this matter said was that what you do when
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  Speaker 4: you give children these labels at such a young age,
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  Speaker 4: they then this non binary identity becomes constitutive of who
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  Speaker 4: they are, and as they grow up they constantly look
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  Speaker 4: at themselves. How do I look? How do people perceive me?
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  Speaker 4: Do I look like a girl? Do I look like
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  Speaker 4: a boy? Do I look gender neutral? That's not healthy
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  Speaker 4: for anyone. You should not be thinking about yourself that much,
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  Speaker 4: especially as a child. So it is just heartbreaking and
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  Speaker 4: it is outrageous that the LNP in Queensland have taken
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  Speaker 4: such a pathetic stance.
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  Speaker 5: I want to know how these children have managed to
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  Speaker 5: clone themselves into double because of course they the miss
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  Speaker 5: plural I mean not even grammatically correct. And it's not
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  Speaker 5: just these kids whose parents are identifying them as they them.
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  Speaker 5: It's the fact that all the other kids in their
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  Speaker 5: classroom then be exposed to this concept because it will
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  Speaker 5: be incumbent upon the teacher now that the parents have
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  Speaker 5: identified it, for the teacher to say they.
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  Speaker 1: Them, you have to normalize, correct And so all these
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  Speaker 1: other kids for five years old, I mean, what the
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  Speaker 1: hell are you talking about? They then what's this?
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  Speaker 5: So then the teacher will have to explain the concept
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  Speaker 5: of non binary to the kids, and then the kids
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  Speaker 5: will go home to their parents and say, what's all
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  Speaker 5: this non binary stuff?
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  Speaker 1: Like, it's not just.
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  Speaker 5: About these kids and their parents, it's about everyone else
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  Speaker 5: as well, and it is. I mean, these are concepts
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  Speaker 5: that are beyond the understanding of children this young. It's
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  Speaker 5: the same reason that we shouldn't be talking in classrooms
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  Speaker 5: about the world's going to burn from climate change or whatever,
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  Speaker 5: because children take these things very literally and it's very
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  Speaker 5: difficult for them to see the light and shade and
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  Speaker 5: the nuance of these issues. You say to a kid
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  Speaker 5: that you can potentially change your gender, and you can
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  Speaker 5: understand why a kid's like, yeah, sure, I can change
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  Speaker 5: my gender. Now I can do what I want whenever
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  Speaker 5: I want. Same as you say, the world's going to
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  Speaker 5: burn from climate change, and the kids think.
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  Speaker 1: That they're not going to have a world to grow
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  Speaker 1: up in. You should not be introducing it to.
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  Speaker 3: Kids that yet, if only someone would tell the education
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  Speaker 3: minister he can identify as an education minister.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's not just kids that are confused about their gender.
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  Speaker 4: Even academics at the world's most prestigious university, Cambridge University,
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  Speaker 4: I confuse about what it means to be a woman.
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  Speaker 4: The university's oldest female only college, Newnham College, which was
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  Speaker 4: founded in eighteen seventeen one, has said they will continue
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  Speaker 4: to admit trans women aka biological males who identify as females,
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  Speaker 4: even though the Supreme Court has ruled that a woman
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  Speaker 4: is actually what you were at birth. It's your sex.
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  Speaker 4: You can't change that. Now they're using a legal loophole
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  Speaker 4: which they claim that when you're providing education, you can
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  Speaker 4: admit males to female institutions in exceptional cases, and they
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  Speaker 4: argue that trans people are an exceptional case of that.
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  Speaker 4: So one, you're admitting that these are actually males, Glad,
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  Speaker 4: we've all got that on the record. But what you're
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  Speaker 4: actually doing is you are taking the place of an
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  Speaker 4: actual female and replacing them with a male, and you're
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  Speaker 4: acknowledging that you're doing that. And what is so ironic
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  Speaker 4: about this is this college was founded by female suffragettes
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  Speaker 4: who were fighting for women's right to vote, women's rights
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  Speaker 4: to receive an education. When the college was established, women
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  Speaker 4: weren't even allowed to go to the official lectures at Cambridge.
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  Speaker 4: They had to hold separate ones on the side. At
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  Speaker 4: this college, what are we doing? Well, almost one hundred
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  Speaker 4: and fifty years on, women are being replaced once again
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  Speaker 4: by males. This is an insult to the college, to
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  Speaker 4: its founders, to its legacy, and it's an embarrassment that
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  Speaker 4: even at our elite institutions they don't know what a
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  Speaker 4: woman is.
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  Speaker 3: This is like more evidence that the more educated you are,
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  Speaker 3: the stupider you become. I loved the part of this
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  Speaker 3: story that I loved, Caleb was where the college reassured
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  Speaker 3: everybody that they had had legal advice that admitting trans
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  Speaker 3: women to their female only college was okay. The fact
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  Speaker 3: they needed a lawyer to tell them that is just astonishing.
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  Speaker 3: For them to argue with a straight face, we are
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  Speaker 3: a women's only college, but we do admit men who
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  Speaker 3: are identifying as women. And then they said that, well, actually,
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  Speaker 3: we haven't always been a women's only college because we
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  Speaker 3: have maintenance people come on site to a men and
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  Speaker 3: sometimes we've had men sleep over on site for various reasons.
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  Speaker 3: So they argue, we're a women's only space who admit
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  Speaker 3: men into our space who have actually never been a
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  Speaker 3: fully women's only space, Therefore we're a women's only space.
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  Speaker 2: That's their argument.
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  Speaker 3: Thank god they got legal advice, because you needed to
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  Speaker 3: understand their logic.
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  Speaker 5: Well, precisely, a deed makes as much logical sense as
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  Speaker 5: they them, being one person not a plural.
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  Speaker 3: Imagine you get accepted into Cambridge, right, so this is
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  Speaker 3: like the pinnacle of education. You're going to go there
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  Speaker 3: and be filled with wisdom and knowledge and this is
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  Speaker 3: the sort of rubbish that's coming from the leadership.
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  Speaker 1: Well, this is the problem with academia, isn't it.
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  Speaker 5: Just because you can understand theory, it doesn't mean you
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  Speaker 5: can understand reality. That's why people who can do and
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  Speaker 5: people who can't teach.
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  Speaker 1: In the main I would be saying.
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  Speaker 5: That people involved in this college should be going back
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  Speaker 5: to the court and challenging this and asking for another
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  Speaker 5: adjudication because that the standard has now been said that
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  Speaker 5: a woman is a biological female. And if they're admitting
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  Speaker 5: men and they say there are women's only college tells
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  Speaker 5: me that you'd have a legitimate case to run in
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  Speaker 5: a court to say that this isn't this isn't real.
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  Speaker 1: It cannot happen.
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  Speaker 3: All right, Let's talk about the language because it keeps changing.
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  Speaker 3: And some people are very upset about the Times in
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  Speaker 3: the UK. So they ten thousand teachers and ask them
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: if they've experienced the phenomena of children in the classroom.
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: This is in the UK using American terms, and to
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: the shock of all at the Times, they found that
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: it is incredibly common for kids in the UK to
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: say candy instead of sweets, to talk about apartments rather
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: than flats, elevators rather than lifts, trash or garbage rather
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: than I don't know what they call rubbish rubbish very good,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: and movie theaters rather than what do they call it.
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: In the UK the pictures or cinema, which has been
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: a cinema I think is the place as opposed to
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: a movie theater.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: So that the Times have speculated that this is all
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: down to young people spending a lot of time on
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: YouTube and on Netflix, and apparently this is a big problem.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: Is this I don't see how this is a problem.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: The English language has always incorporated words from other languages.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: It's always evolving.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: If it was not, Kel Richards probably wouldn't have a
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: spot on Sky News. So we wanted to keep evolving
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: because we love Kel. What's wrong with young people using
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: American terms? Is it really such a problem.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: Well, I think what concerns me even more is the
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: accent thing. I mean, there are some and I know
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: people who have an American twang in their accent. They
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: have never lived in America, they have no American family,
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: yet they've got this weird americanized accent. And it's because
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: young people are spending so much time on screens that
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: they are literally absorbing the vocabulary, the pronunciation, the accent
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: of Americans. Now, there's nothing inherently wrong with an American accent. No, Hey,
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: and I used to have a very strong Canadian accent
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: because I grew up there for five years. And sometimes
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: the twain comes out and I have to shut it
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: down because it's horrible. But no hates American accents. But
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: I think it does signal the erasure of British culture,
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: of Australian culture. We're kind of all getting lumped into
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: this American blob, which is just not who we are.
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: I don't like it, you know, just leave your sepo
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: stuff over in Yankee Land, seriously. And the one that
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: really annoys me is cookie as opposed to biscuit, and
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: particularly when it's a n aan Zac biscuit, right, I mean,
• 20:33
  Speaker 5: what could be more Australian than an Anzac biscuit? And
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: I see it written in places and people call them
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: Anzac cookies.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: They're not an Zac cookies if.
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: You're in Australia, if you're in England, it's a biscuit,
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: for Heaven's sake.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: But this is slowly creeping in because the kids pick.
• 20:52
  Speaker 5: It up on TV, and more so than TV, I
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: think they pick it up on TikTok and whatever else
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: they's going through YouTube or whatever. But the accent thing
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: is real. I mean I noticed years ago.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: I was a weird kid.
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: It will surprise you to know I was a weird kid,
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: and I listened to a lot of talkback radio and
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: I was listening to stuff into states, so I was
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: listening to stuff at Brisbane and Sydney and stuff as
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: an Adelaide boy growing up, and I noticed I started
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: saying pool, right, and you would say pool in Adelaide.
• 21:24
  Speaker 5: Let's have to saying pool because that's what people say
• 21:27
  Speaker 5: up in the Eastern States. The only reason is because
• 21:30
  Speaker 5: I've obviously heard it so many times that it's just
• 21:34
  Speaker 5: sort of sunk into my brain. But we are getting
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: our revenge to some degree. We are inflicting some of
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: this upon the Yanks because, of course you will know
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: as a parent or a grandparent about Bluey wildly popular
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: here in Australia, also wildly popular in the United States,
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: and parents over their report that their kids talk with
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: an Australian accent because they've been watching so much blue
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: Ey Tag a look.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: O a Redactor killing.
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: So at least we're having some influence on the Americans
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: as well.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: We deserve to have our revenge. But it really does
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: annoy me.
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: I think it's the erasure of our own language in
• 22:27
  Speaker 5: favor of Americans, and the problem with that. I get
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: that language evolves, but I don't like the idea that
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: language evolves to a point where we all talk the
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: same way. I think there's great beauty in regional variation
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: in language, and what we're doing is getting rid of that.
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: It's not actually evolving the language. It's almost sort of
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: devolving the language into just one thing that we all
• 22:50
  Speaker 5: do as opposed to having our own little.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: But as we're having this discussion, I mean, I have
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: fallen prey to this.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: I was just remembering.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: I've had a viewer email me a couple of times,
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: very upset because I keep saying gen z. Yeah, I
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: think is the American term, right? Also really yes, I'll
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: tell you one term I do hate though. When you're
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: watching cricket and they never talk about batsman anymore.
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: They talk about batters.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: It's a batter, yeah, which is the US which is base.
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: It's a gender neutral thing because you haven't got the
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: women's cricket. But I mean, peven say that is what
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: you have on your fish when you go to the
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: fish rip shop, right, they say, here's the batter. I go,
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: what have you dipped the batsman in the in the
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: fire or something?
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: For goodness sake.
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: While we're in the United States and members of I
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: don't know, is she gen z?
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: She probably is gen z.
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: Billie Eilish singer twenty three years old.
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: There you go. So she yes, So she is definitely
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: gen Z.
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: And as gen Z people want to do, she seems
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: to be a bit of a socialist, despite the fact
• 23:46
  Speaker 5: that she has millions and millions of dollars in the bank.
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: Fifty it's the only way to be a socialist.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: Yell that correct? Correct?
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: Well, if you look at Zora and Mamdani, who by
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: this time tomorrow will be well on his way to
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: becoming the Mayor of New York most probably his biggest
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: support is from high income earners in New York, right,
• 24:07
  Speaker 5: because you know, you've got to have money to afford
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: to be a social So that's all right. So she's
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: got fifty three million US dollars in the bank herself.
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: It's more than one hundred million Australian dollars.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: She has plenty of coin. She is a famous singer.
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: So she wins an award at the Wallstreet Journal's Innovator
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: Awards in New York last week, and she gets up
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: to give her acceptance speech, and as a multi millionaire,
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: what does she have to say.
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: If you're a billionaire, why are you a billionaire? No hate,
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: but yeah, give your money away.
• 24:46
  Speaker 5: Because the cutoff for being too rich is always beyond
• 24:50
  Speaker 5: how rich I am. It's okay to be a multi millionaire,
• 24:54
  Speaker 5: but if you're a billionaire, that's bad. Now, she said,
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: she's going to give eleven and a half million dollars
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: in money that she's made out of one of her
• 25:02
  Speaker 5: latest albums to charity. Good on her for doing so,
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: but that still leaves her in the order of slightly
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: under forty million dollars in her back. So she's not
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: doing too badly. Well, I mean, why is it billionaire
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: that's bad?
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, if there were billionaires in the room.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Mark Zuckerberg was in the room.
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: And clearly far more evil than her because they've made
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: more money than her, and she's just a battler trying
• 25:26
  Speaker 5: to get by.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: She said, She said, no hate, but you know, why
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: do you need no.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Why do you need millions? I mean, this is she's.
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: Given twenty percent of her wealth away.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but she's gonna make more money. I mean
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: of course she would. Sorry, So if you're giving.
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: Away twenty percent of fifty million US dollars, I don't
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: think you can tell me that you're such a wonderful
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: virtuous person, because why not give away ninety nine percent
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: of it? Why should you have and this is the
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: argument of the socialism and communism, Why should you have
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: any more money to your name than you need to survive?
• 25:58
  Speaker 5: And if her argument is that billionaires have too much money,
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: why does.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: She not all Sioby, I think people are making too
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: much of this.
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: She was at a Wall Street Journal event which is
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: populated by a lot of very very wealthy people. She's
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: twenty three years old, right, so she probably lacks some nuance,
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: and she's full of vigor and zeal for changing the world.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: And so she's standing there looking a lot of very
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: wealthy people. She's just decided to give away eleven million
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: dollars and she says, you know what, if you're a billionaire,
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: why do you need to be a billionaire?
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: No hate, but you should give some of it away.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: I don't think she should be criticized for being a hypocrite.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: She's just a young person who's passionate to hippiwealthy people
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: who I don't think she's here now.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think she's a hypocrite at all.
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: I think the fact that she's given away eleven million
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: USD at such a young age is very impressive and
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: well done to her. I think what annoys me about
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: this is the implicit assumption here that if you are
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: a billionaire, you're bad, or you should be ashamed, or
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: you shouldn't exist at all as a billionaire. And somehow
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: now the fact that you were that rich is because
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: you've exploited the system someone else has suffered to get
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: you to be that rich. That is false. Also, you
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: bring up, well, why doesn't she give away ninety nine
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: percent of her wealth? It's funny because Mark Zuckerberg, who
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: was in the room, who we can infer she was
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: speaking to, has pledged to give away ninety nine percent
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: of his wealth. Yet that didn't get a mention, didn't
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: get an acknowledgment at all. And the other thing that
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: really annoys me is the lefties always complain about billionaires
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: and wealthy people, but when wealthy people give their money
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: to institutions, they then get mad, but they'll still take
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: the money. For example, Mark Zuckerberg, he gave seventy five
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: million dollars to a San Francisco hospital. They wanted to
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: put his name on the hospital, and the lefties and
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: the activists threw a massive fit, but they still kept
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: the money. So the Left are hypocrites on this issue,
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: and the idea that you shouldn't be a billionaire is
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: just false. We should celebrate wealthy people, we should celebrate
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: people who have added value to society. But as well
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: it is I mean, as the Bible says, it is
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: easier for a camel to pass through the eye of
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: a needle than for a rich man to enter the
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: Kingdom of heaven. Being wealthy has its own issues and
• 28:23
  Speaker 4: its own downsides as well. So it's just very simplistic,
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: very naive, very Zora.
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: Mum, Danny Woo. You quote the Bible or quote Woody Ellen.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: He said money can't make you rich, but I'd sure
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: like to give it. Sorry, money can't make you happy,
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: but I'd.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Sure love to give it a go, and did certainly
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: solve a few problems.
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: I don't ever put this money you know doesn't make
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: you heapy, doesn't buy your happiness. Look, I could buy
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: me a hell of a lot of things that I
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: think would go a long way to doing.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: It well speaking about it.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Sorry, just on that I reckon she deserves credit for that,
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: rather than she's absolutely got smashed in the meeting.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Good honor for donating the money.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: To say, oh, you're a hypocrite. What don't you give
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: away everything you've got?
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: But it's also an easy potshot to say, if you're
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: a billionaire, why you are a billionaire.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Not like you're a millionaire who's just given away eleven million?
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: No, no, no, I think it is no because it's
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: inferring that you are better than the billionaire. Right, just
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: go and quietly give your money away. Why does the
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: world need to know you're giving your money away?
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: And why do you.
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: Need to be criticizing other people for gaining wealth, particularly
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: when many of those people, Mark Zuckerberg you mentioned, I.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Mean Bill Gates.
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: Loads of billionaires have pledged to give away the vast
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: majority of their wealth over their lifetime because they acknowledge
• 29:30
  Speaker 5: that they are extremely rich. She's doing the same thing
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: to some degree.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Who cares? Good for you?
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly right. Well, you talk about money and wanting
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: to be rich, James, here's a potential job idea for you.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: Head over to me New York City. Enjoy these Citizens'
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: Air Complaints program in New York City. If you catch
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: a video of a car or a truck sitting idol,
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: you could be pocketing loads of cash. This is a
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: program run by the City of New York and some
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: of the top earners on this program are making almost
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: a million dollars a year. You've got Ernest Weld earning
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: eight hundred and ninety five k, another guy on seven
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: hundred and forty eight down to five hundred thousand, and
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: this is all in US dollars. So how it works
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: is they're basically citizen bounty hunters. So they will go
• 30:25
  Speaker 4: around and if they catch a car sitting idle with
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: its engine on for three minutes, or a school mass
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: for one minute, and they can take that on video
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: and then submit it to the Department of Environment and
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: then that is held up in the courts. They will
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: get twenty five percent of the fine that is issued
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: to that person. And if they and this is how
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: you earn the real big butts in New York. If
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: you take that video and you yourself submit that to
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: the tribunal, then you can get fifty percent of the fine.
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: And some of the fines are, you know, two thousand
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: dollars and all it takes is a three minute video,
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: So you calculate the hourly rate on that these people
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: are earning more than some of the top barristers in
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: the city.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: So what's wrong with it?
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, well, it is a bit Soviet style
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: spy on your neighbors, dub them in and it's costing
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: a fortune. But no, it's not progress.
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: It's not costing a fortune, right because it's fine, so
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: it's not money that the city already had. And second,
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: I guess it means they don't need to employ a
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: whole lot of inspectors to patrol and so forth, because
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: they've got people with iPhones running around doing it.
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: But here's where it goes bad, right.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: New York City did this in twenty twenty three with
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: noise pollution, same concept, so citizens could monitor bars and
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: restaurants and if they got proof that the bar was
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: violating noise restrictions and submitted that, then they would get
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: twenty five percent of the fine. But one guy, he
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: turned up at this same bar seven times, got recordings,
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: submitted it, and so they were up the thirty three
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: thousand dollars worth of fines from seven different offenses. But
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: they've never been notified of even the first one. So
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: what it ended up happening was you had people targeting
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: certain places over and over again before they knew what
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: was happening, and just the fines were mounting up and
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: people were earning a lot of money.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: So that's where it goes bad. But I don't know,
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: I'm necessarily against it.
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: It is snitching, but yeah, I don't like the principle
• 32:26
  Speaker 5: of it. I think it turns people against each other.
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: I think it encourages us to find fault more than
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: anything else, and I'm not sure that's necessarily good. I mean,
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: in the case of idling iling your car, like, for
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: goodness sake, I don't know where else in the world
• 32:41
  Speaker 5: it is illegal to idle your car. And what about
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: your starter motor anyway?
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, the idea is.
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: That you've got to turn your car off every time
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: you're going to be stuck.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: With your car. Does it it's self, well, some of them.
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: Do, but I mean, what does it do to the
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: starter motor every time You've got to turn the bloody
• 32:56
  Speaker 5: car on every time you get moving again.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: I think that's ridiculous.
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: I like it when they do it to government because
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: that does exist, or government does it to service providers
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: related to government because in South Australia SA Power Networks,
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: which was privatized, but SA Power Networks of course has
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: carriage of all the street lights around the place, right,
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: and you can go online and report if a street
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: light is out, and under legislation, there is a period
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: of time in which they have to fix that street light.
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: And if they don't fix that street light, say Power Networks,
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: has to pay a fine directly.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: To the person who lodged the complaint about the light
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: being out. And I did it once.
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: I complained about some lights that were all out on
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: my street or something, and sure enough, they didn't do
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: it in time, and I got a check in the mail.
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: How much did you get?
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: I think I got a few hundred bucks or something
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: because I reported like six or.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Seven light in the first place.
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: No, no, I absolutely did not do that, but they
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: had to pay me because they didn't do it. And
• 33:56
  Speaker 5: I liked that because it encourages better service from the government.
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: But when it comes to people being able to make
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: money out of stitching on their neighbors, I'm not sure
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: I like that.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: All right, let's go to the US, or rather stay
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: there where.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: Donald Trump has just announced one hundred million dollars to
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: refurbish existing coal fired power stations.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Now, this is nothing new.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Back in September he allocated more than six hundred million
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: dollars to reinvigorate the coal sector, and in April Trump
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: instructed government agencies to lift all restrictions on the development
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: of coal mines and associated infrastructure.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: I just thought this is an interesting.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: Story, Freyer, at the very time when, of course, all
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: the news here is about the coalition trying to work
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: out their energy policy.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Meanw net zero or not net zero?
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: Meanwhile Trump is reinvesting in coal fired power stations here
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: that would be considered heresy in the US.
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: That's now good energy policy.
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, I feel like it's just common sense.
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: And the fact that it is that controversial kind of
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: shows you how crazy the whole energy debate has gotten.
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: In the first priority of any country should be to
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: have reliable, affordable energy, and we know that a key
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: focus of the Trump administration is getting an American manufacturing back.
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: The only way you're going to do that is with
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: cheap energy. And I mean a lot of people will go, oh, well,
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: why are they giving subsidies to the coal Just let
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: the market build the coal fire power plants. But the
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: problem is you've had ten fifteen years of governments constantly
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: telling businesses there is no future for coal. Coal is over,
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: invest in renewables or you're done. So they do need
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: a bit of support. And think about the billions that
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: the government spent on renewables and green energy. One hundred
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: one hundred million dollars for coal. That's nothing.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: So just quickly before we go to the break.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Matt Keen, head of the Climate Change Authority, had a
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: column in the Sydney Morning Herald that you did not.
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: Like well, I mean, did anyone like it anyway? That
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: might be a bit harsh, but Matt kean former Liberal treasurer,
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: paid a couple thousand dollars by labor and is now
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: the biggest advocate for alban Easy's climate policies. What do
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: you know, but he wrote this off and where he
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: said the Climate Change Authority cautions against abandoning twenty fifty
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: as the target time for reaching carbon neutrality. Having a
• 36:20
  Speaker 4: firm goal that catalyzes and coordinates actions by communities, businesses
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: and governments at home and abroad will deliver a lower
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: cost decarbonization of our economy than mere aspirations to act.
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: You know what, we'll deliver the cheapest result for our
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: economy full stop. Is just not pursuing any of this
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: at all. It's funny how that works.
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: Indeed, all right, we're going to go to a break.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: When we come back, we'll look at what's making news tomorrow,
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: including Newspoll surveys Australians about their attitudes towards immigration. Will
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: show you the results after the break, plus calls for
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: a crackdown on e bikes after a teenager dies on
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: the Gold Coast and more in just a moment.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Welcome back to the show.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: Let's take a look at what's making headlines tomorrow so
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: you hear it here. First we'll start, of course with
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: the Herald Sun tomorrow being the Melbourne Cup race day
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: at Flemington. As you would expect, that comprises the cover
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: of the paper tomorrow, lapping up the Cup. They've got
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: a picture there of Olympic Great Aria and Titmas Cayleb.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: You are the racing officionado on the late debate, So
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: all I know is half yours is the favorite.
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm keen on half yours. I mean, they've
• 37:38
  Speaker 5: had nearly twenty mil of rain since nine am this morning.
• 37:42
  Speaker 5: The tracks currently raided a soft seven. They're expecting more
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: showers overnight and potentially more during the day tomorrow, so
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: the track could degrade even further. So you're looking for
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: a wet track horse, and half Yours does like the wet,
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: so I am pretty keen on half Yours. I'd love
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: the story of Jamie Mellum, of course, formerly Jamie Carr,
• 38:04
  Speaker 5: good South Australian girl, to be the second woman to
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: win the Melbourne Cup after she won the Corefield Cup
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: on Half Yours a couple of weeks ago. I think
• 38:13
  Speaker 5: Voban as well, a bit of odds could potentially be
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: worth the bet. A horse that if he's there on
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: the day, will be successful. He's had a couple of
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: goes at the Melbourne Cup now without much success. But
• 38:25
  Speaker 5: I think Gay Waterhouse said this morning, you know if
• 38:27
  Speaker 5: he gets up on the right side of the bed
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: he'll have a good day. And he likes the wet
• 38:32
  Speaker 5: as well. And the other one that I don't mind
• 38:34
  Speaker 5: and the money's coming in for it Gabble responsibly, of course,
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: is flattened. The curve, of course, aptly named from COVID,
• 38:42
  Speaker 5: another one that enjoys. The wet has come over from
• 38:46
  Speaker 5: Ireland and there's quite a bit of money coming in
• 38:49
  Speaker 5: there as well from Germany. Actually sorry, but there's quite
• 38:52
  Speaker 5: a bit of money coming in there as well. So
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: there's a bit to play with tomorrow and have a
• 38:56
  Speaker 5: bit of fun, gamble responsibly and whatever. But Jesus, one
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: of the best times of the year, isn't it Melbourne
• 39:01
  Speaker 5: Cup Day.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: I'm not a massive force racing fan to let it
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: down AFL Grand Final Day. There is a day in Melbourne,
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Melbourne Cup.
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: I think the only thing I'll be betting on is
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: who will be best dressed, and that's probably the category
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: I'll be most interested in as well.
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: Australian we've got the Australian sorrow real news. Let's hope
• 39:22
  Speaker 5: I come in with my wallet a little fatter tomorrow
• 39:25
  Speaker 5: because I didn't have a great day.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Derby Day on the punt shall we day?
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: But on the front of the Australian Susan safeguard mechanism
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: speaking of someone who might not be having a good
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: day on the punt Susan Lee is expected to dump
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: a net zero emissions target in an aim to safeguard
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: WHO leadership and keep the coalition united as Conservative mp
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: sorry back Angus Taylor to lead the party to the
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: next election senior Liberal MPs, so they believe it is
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: increasingly likely the opposition leader will move to Junker net
• 39:54
  Speaker 5: zero target from the coalition's agenda after top Conservatives united
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: against the climate change in the meeting of the Liberal
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: Leadership Group on Sunday night. But moderate MPs are arguing
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: Miss Lee's leadership group was not representative of the party
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: room and there would be fierce opposition on front bench
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: resignations if net zero were dropped completely, because the problem
• 40:17
  Speaker 5: is the Nats have now dropped it, so you can't
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: really have a position where you have the two members
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: of the coalition parties with different policies. They've taken long
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: enough to come up with something following the election, because
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: of course everything is on the table, and by god,
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: that table is groaning under the weight of all the.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Things that are currently on it. They need to get
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: onto this one.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: How do you reckon Susan Lee is sleeping at the
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: moment pretty badly.
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: I would suspect our eyes.
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: I mean, she should have more damned if she does damn, more.
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: Trouble than Voban in terms of what side of the
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: bench he gets up on us suspect.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: As for Angus Taylor being mooted as the next leader
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: of what are they going to bore the.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: Government to death?
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: No, I think Angus is good. I think Angus is good.
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: I think the problem that anyone who takes over from
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: Susan will now have is they'll say, oh, well, you
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: push the woman off the glass cliff, so they'll have
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: to weather a month of bad press. But seriously, the
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: Liberal Party's primary vote is now down to twenty four percent.
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: If this keeps going, one nation will overtake the Liberal
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: Party as the most popular right of center party. That
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: will be a disaster. We cannot have a Toy's two
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: point zero scenario here in Australia. And so I mean,
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: I think with regards to the net zero debate, the
• 41:33
  Speaker 4: most sensible solution would be to do what the Nationals
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: have done, drop the commitment to the Paris Agreement net
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: zero by twenty fifty, but say we retain an aspiration
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: to go towards lower emissions. That'll work in the Teal seats,
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: and then just get rid of.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: Miss One nation would love that, because one nation will
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: be seen as a conviction party, while the Liberals will
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: continue to be seen as a party of compromise.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: I know that the only problem is that promise in politics.
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: The only problem with Angus Taylor as well is I
• 42:02
  Speaker 5: mean he didn't exactly perform all that well as shadow treasurer,
• 42:05
  Speaker 5: did he.
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: But it's also hard to know how much of any
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: of those shadow ministries performances were the result of their
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: efforts versus the broader situation.
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: Well perhaps, Yeah, one of the things that really stung,
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: I think in that campaign was the Libs coming out
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: and saying they wouldn't pass on that tax cut, and
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: that was.
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: Very much in his purview. It was a decision that really.
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: Did not have to be taken and handed a free
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: kick to Labor to say, look, who's the party of
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: tax cuts, the Labor Party by George Now the story
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: on the front of the odds to borrow if we
• 42:37
  Speaker 5: want to talk about the issues that people are worried about.
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: Majority calls for immigration cuts exclusively from Greg Chambers News poll.
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: Almost two thirds of Australians want fewer immigrants coming to
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: the country, including thirty nine percent who want.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: A lot fewer.
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: According to a News poll that reveals immigration anxiety across
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: all demographics amid surging support for one nation, as Susan
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: Lee faces pressure from coalition MPs to go harder than
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: previous Liberal leader Peter Dutton on immigration policy. Two hundred
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: and sixty five voters show sixty four percent of voters
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: want fewer people moving permanently to Australia, and I mean,
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: Poles just keep reflecting this. This is probably the strongest
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: one we've seen in a while. There was another poll
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: on the weekend. I talked about last night on the
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: Sunday showdown where it's now according to Freshwater, who we've
• 43:27
  Speaker 5: got to take with the grain is Salt because they
• 43:28
  Speaker 5: did the liberal parties polling for them during the election
• 43:31
  Speaker 5: and told them they'd have no problem. But they found
• 43:34
  Speaker 5: that immigration is now in the top five issues that
• 43:36
  Speaker 5: people are worried about. It has doubled in terms of
• 43:39
  Speaker 5: concern in the last twenty months.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: The other interesting part of this News poll is that
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: fifty percent of Labor voters say immigration is too high
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: and thirty two percent of Green's voters.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: So it's right across the board.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean, but you think about the election,
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: immigration and cutting immigration basically became a bipartisan policy. Labor
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: agreed to cut it too. The problem is the liberals
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: should have seen that. They should have seen that and gone, okay,
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: we've actually got them cornered on this. Let's go even
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: harder and try to win some votes. Instead, Labour basically neutralized.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: So one suitsan lead deals with that zero. This is
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: the next issue.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: She's got to come out with a strong policy on
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: if she wants to retain her leadership.
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: Exactly well in the Camera Times tomorrow, targets prove hard
• 44:19
  Speaker 4: to hit. Major government departments failed to meet ambitious targets
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: to reduce spending on contractors and labor higher, according to
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: an analysis of annual report disclosures, with some agencies not
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: disclosing any savings. Last year, the Albanezi government directed and
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: agency heads to identify areas to reduce taxpayer expenditure on
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: contractors and consultants as part of Labour's cracked down on
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: inappropriate outsourcing. Departments set saving targets worth a combined five
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: hundred and twenty seven million dollars, despite a handful opting
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: not to include an outsourcing target in their corporate plans. Well,
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: what do you know a labor promise, another one that
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: has not come true at all. Many departments recorded no savings.
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: They give the example here of Services Australia. They only
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: managed to save two point six million dollars. Isn't that
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: just wonderful?
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: Their target was almost ten million and they saved two million.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: Great effort.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: Let's go to the town's bulletin interesting front page. There,
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: man allegedly demanded nudes from colleague Fake Bikey's Sick Lies.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: The stories as a man who's accused of fabricating a
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: web of lies about being an outlaw motorcycle being in
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: an outlaw motorcycle gang to pressure a colleague into sending
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: him nudes. He's been granted bail. I don't think a
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: plea has been entered for this yet. So he's charged
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: with distributing intimate images and extortion. Apparently, he is alleged
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: to have asked for eighty thousand dollars cash that he
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: was going to use to buy a car, and for
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: another fifty k to buy a motorcycle, which should have
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: been an alert to the fact that this story wasn't true.
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: He's an outlaw motorcycle gang member who wanted fifty k
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: to buy a motorcycle. So, as I said, these are allegations.
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: Interesting court case.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: I'm a biking show me your knockers, send me eighty.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: K That seems to have been the plan.
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: Alleged that whatever flecks your boat on the front of
• 46:18
  Speaker 5: the Gold Coast bullies and tomorrow e bike death trap.
• 46:20
  Speaker 5: Mere tom Tate calls with government action after fatal crash.
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: Jurish met tom Tate has accused the state government of
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: diminished leadership for refusing to fast track its response to
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: Queensland's e bike crisis.
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: And this is a big ongoing story out there.
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: They've had a number of e buck deaths in the
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: last few weeks and big pressure on the state government
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: to change the laws.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: All right, we're going to go to a break.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: When we come back, we've got Dope of the Day,
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: a guy pleads guilty to trying to rig a Meryll
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: election and Megan Markle's got a new video. Now we've
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: had to watch it so you will too. That's after
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: the breaking, all right, welcome back.
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: Caleb Bond is not only our horse racing officionado, but
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: he's also the ambassador for South Australia.
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: So calb it's appropriate that you talk about the election
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: that occurred there.
• 47:09
  Speaker 5: Well, in my ambassadorial duties, I'm not sure I'm spreading
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: the good work. But anyway, let's get into one of
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: our favorite segments, the Time of the day, and today's
• 47:25
  Speaker 5: entry is Jason Midzei, who decided he would put his
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: hat in the ring to become mayor of Marion, except
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: today he has pleaded guilty to trying to rig the
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: election by tampering with votes, but outside courty says, nothing
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: to worry about you, journo's You've got to do your
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: job properly.
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: Guilty thirty pots for.
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: Less ten counts of dishonestly exercise a vote at an
• 47:57
  Speaker 5: election or poll.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: Those ten votes would made all the difference.
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: I was going to say, did he win?
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: No, he didn't this close. If he'd only visited polling
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: booths another one hundred thousand times, he could have got there. Well,
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: someone else's under fire is Meghan Markle, who has posted
• 48:15
  Speaker 4: what some claiming is a very staged and weird reaction
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: to the LA Dodgers winning the World Series baseball competition
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: to have.
• 48:23
  Speaker 6: A look, why do you need to film that?
• 48:39
  Speaker 4: Like she had to go? She had to set the
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: camera up, she had to do the whole thing.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: It's just stop, just stop, enough of Meghan Markele.
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you what I did like seeing on the weekend,
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: and that's Daniel Jarvis.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: He's a serial pranks.
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: To have a look at this, he managed to sneak
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: onto the field in Liverpool where Australia was playing.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: The UK in rugby league.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: There it is closest to you and clearly he doesn't
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: belong there, but he's acting like he's one of the
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: Australian players, singing the national anthem. You can see a
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: couple of the Aussies a little concerned.
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: Who is this guy? Not the first time he's done it.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: He's pulled similar pranks in cricket and believe it or not,
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: the Paris Olympics.
• 49:15
  Speaker 5: And I believe he's got his date in court today,
• 49:17
  Speaker 5: so he's not going to make it back to invade
• 49:19
  Speaker 5: the big Johan nowell get on the ground at the
• 49:22
  Speaker 5: Melbourne Cup tomorrow. There you go.
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: That's all we've got time for tonight. Stick Around. Coming
• 49:25
  Speaker 2: up in just a moment is the reader Pennety Show.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: Good Night