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Street Level Performers Within an Epic Universe · Large Nerdron Collider

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the large nerdrun Collider, the podcast.
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  Speaker 1: It's all about the geeky things happening in the world
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  Speaker 1: around us and how very excited we are about them.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Ariel Castin, and with me, as always, is the
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  Speaker 1: person who I should have let you the intro this week,
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  Speaker 1: Jonathan Strangling.
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  Speaker 2: Well, hello there, my angelic voiced co host.
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  Speaker 1: I know it is I am producing some dulcet tones today.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, those who listen to our short episode, no that
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  Speaker 2: Ariel was a little under the weather and really like
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  Speaker 2: there was just no way she would be able to
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  Speaker 2: record last week. And it's been a whole week, and
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  Speaker 2: you know you can hear like she's still recovering. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 2: she's still kicking butt going out there tape and auditions.
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  Speaker 2: Uh a challenge.
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  Speaker 1: Let me tell you, if you never believed in a
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  Speaker 1: greater power before, I don't expect this to change your mind, Jonathan.
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  Speaker 1: But the fact that I have been like I have
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  Speaker 1: had an overabundance of blessings of auditions this year so far,
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  Speaker 1: which is fantastic. And then for the last two weeks,
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  Speaker 1: while I was dealing with my husband being sick and
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  Speaker 1: me being sick, I had nothing like, just crickets and
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  Speaker 1: then which is great because it wasn't in a good
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  Speaker 1: position to do it. And then the day I test
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  Speaker 1: negative for COVID, I get two auditions and both of
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  Speaker 1: them are non.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking, which you're ideal for at the moment.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So like, if ever you believed in a greater power,
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  Speaker 1: it sure feels like it right now.
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  Speaker 2: And I imagine you're feeling better, and that is the
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  Speaker 2: most important thing obviously. Like even a non speaking audition,
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  Speaker 2: if you look like death warmed over, you're probably not
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  Speaker 2: going to get the part, unless it's walking dead, in
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  Speaker 2: which case maybe it'll work for you.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you can see me. I don't have makeup on,
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  Speaker 1: so I probably still look like that. But yes, I
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  Speaker 1: feel much better. Honestly. The worst part of it, because
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  Speaker 1: I had COVID, I thought I got like my husband
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  Speaker 1: got it, and then I thought that I got away
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  Speaker 1: with not catching it, and I was wrong. But the
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  Speaker 1: worst part is that it just gave me this incessant
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  Speaker 1: cough that nothing, no medicine that I took would stop it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like twenty four to seven, So I'm I'm past it now.
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  Speaker 1: I feel much better. The problem is is that all
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  Speaker 1: of that, all, like my throat and my lungs and
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  Speaker 1: all that million and all of the phlem that it
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  Speaker 1: all produced is still healing and working itself out, just
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  Speaker 1: because I did so much damage from coughing, so like
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't hurt, it just isn't back.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've had I've had respiratory issues in the past
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  Speaker 2: where it's kind of the similar situation where even when
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  Speaker 2: you're out of the woods for the initial infection, recovery
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  Speaker 2: can take some time. So I'm glad you're feeling better.
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  Speaker 2: And yes, everybody, I did ask. I did ask before
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  Speaker 2: we recorded to make sure that she was feeling up
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  Speaker 2: to doing this because Ariel is I mean, I've told
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  Speaker 2: the story before. Ariel's got a reputation for working hurt,
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  Speaker 2: like she doesn't let that stop her.
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  Speaker 1: But I didn't take off of my day job while
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  Speaker 1: I had COVID because I worked from home. I still
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  Speaker 1: did it. I just slept in between.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I slept in between two and I wasn't sick.
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  Speaker 2: So well, I'm glad you're back. I'm glad we can
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  Speaker 2: actually talk about stuff. We did not include the stories
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  Speaker 2: that I kind of did a quick run through last week.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't include any of those because enough stuff has
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  Speaker 2: happened since then, including stuff that technically doesn't fit on
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  Speaker 2: her show, but we wanted to mention it. And like,
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  Speaker 2: there's a bunch of those.
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  Speaker 1: Well, some like the last three I think could vaguely
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  Speaker 1: fit our show.
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  Speaker 2: I agree. Well, I mean, even like even the horror one,
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  Speaker 2: but like I just felt that it was more animal
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  Speaker 2: horror and less like supernatural horror I think is an
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  Speaker 2: easier fit, or even slasher horror. But when you get
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  Speaker 2: to like animal attack horror, that to me anyway, we're
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  Speaker 2: jumping ahead. Before we get to any of that. We
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  Speaker 2: usually talk about stuff that we've watched since the last
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  Speaker 2: time we recorded. Now, a lot of the things I
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  Speaker 2: was watching are now on hiatus, and I'm all caught up,
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  Speaker 2: so like already you know, obviously already finished Severan's already
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  Speaker 2: finished Man Meat Mountain, the series aka Reacher. You know,
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  Speaker 2: I've caught up on a lot of stuff, But I
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  Speaker 2: am still watching Harley Quinn. I'm still like in season three,
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  Speaker 2: so I'm still way behind, but I'm making my way
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  Speaker 2: through that series. I'm still enjoying it. I haven't really
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  Speaker 2: watched much of anything else that is in the geek
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  Speaker 2: sphere that I can think of other than something that
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  Speaker 2: we're going to chat about toward the end of this episode.
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  Speaker 1: Gotcha, I am. I. I've been playing a lot of
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  Speaker 1: balder skate because that's something you can do when you're
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  Speaker 1: sick and curled up in a ball. So that's been
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  Speaker 1: a lot of my time, and I've actually done that
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  Speaker 1: over The problem is like, so I wake up in
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  Speaker 1: the morning and I go to work, and then I
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  Speaker 1: do my workout, and I do my chores and I
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  Speaker 1: do my audition stuff, and then when I get done
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  Speaker 1: in the evening with all of that is usually about
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  Speaker 1: when Tony's kicking off work because he starts he's got
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  Speaker 1: a later schedule than I do. And then we do
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  Speaker 1: dinner and we hang out, and then I go to
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  Speaker 1: bed because I have to get up early in the
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  Speaker 1: morning again, so I don't have a lot of time
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  Speaker 1: to play video games, whereas like he's got set because
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  Speaker 1: he's a night now several hours after I go to
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  Speaker 1: bed to like just chill and play video games. So
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  Speaker 1: I've been trying to fit balder skate in on the
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  Speaker 1: weekends on my lunch breaks because I have an extended
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  Speaker 1: lunch break because I picked my own schedule. Again, I'm
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  Speaker 1: an incredibly fortunate person from the life that I have,
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  Speaker 1: and I'll sometimes do it in like if I'll like,
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  Speaker 1: while I'm sick, skip doing chores or a workout because
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  Speaker 1: I can't really do it without dying, and play instead.
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  Speaker 1: So but one or two nights I have opted, like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we watched an episode of After Midnight. They had a
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  Speaker 1: really fun gauntlet. I'm going to go play some Balder's
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  Speaker 1: Gate now. So like I've been, I've been priority tizing
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  Speaker 1: some self care during this time of illness, but I
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  Speaker 1: have watched some things. We've been watching After Midnight, which
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  Speaker 1: is going away I think. I don't know if you
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  Speaker 1: mentioned that last week.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't mention it, but I did see the news
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  Speaker 2: item that I think as Taylor Tomlinson was going to
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  Speaker 2: focus on touring or something, and.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she wants to go back full time to stand up,
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  Speaker 1: which is great. I'm gonna be sad because this is
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  Speaker 1: it's just a fun show. Yeah, usually sometimes the panelists
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  Speaker 1: with it for me. But you know, whatever I've been watching,
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  Speaker 1: there's been some new dropout shows or new seasons of
• 7:08
  Speaker 1: dropout shows. So Game Changers started back up in the
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  Speaker 1: first episode of that. That's the one where the contestants
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  Speaker 1: don't know what the game is until they get on set.
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  Speaker 1: Everything's a mystery, and a lot of people view it
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  Speaker 1: as kind of like a torture game, like a torture
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  Speaker 1: improv game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some elements that are similar to shows like
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  Speaker 2: task Master.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but the thing is, here's the thing, because I
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  Speaker 1: have some friends who are not big into like torture comedy.
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  Speaker 1: Even though they're all friends and they're okay, these people
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  Speaker 1: play it up. They agree to do the show, they
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  Speaker 1: come in, they know what it is, and I feel like,
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  Speaker 1: probably sometimes they're very frustrated at what happens, but sometimes
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  Speaker 1: they're playing into the gag because that's what people like
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  Speaker 1: to watch.
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  Speaker 2: And a lot of the torture is pretty like it's
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  Speaker 2: mild stuff. It's not like the kind of things you
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  Speaker 2: would see typically anyway. It's not the kind of things
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  Speaker 2: you would see on like say a Japanese game show
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  Speaker 2: based around torture, where it's like, Okay, now someone's going
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  Speaker 2: to slap your belly as hard as they possibly can.
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  Speaker 2: It's not like that. It's like it's like having to
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  Speaker 2: do things or just like the frustration of figuring out
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  Speaker 2: a game, because sometimes that is the game is that
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  Speaker 2: you're playing, but you don't really know what the game
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  Speaker 2: is until you have been playing it for a while
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  Speaker 2: and then it reveals itself to you. So the early
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  Speaker 2: stages can be very frustrating when you're not sure why
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  Speaker 2: you're getting points, so you're not getting points, or if
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  Speaker 2: you're Brennan Lee Mulligan, you're convinced that it's another game
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  Speaker 2: that's completely rigged against you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, but again, I also think he probably
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  Speaker 1: plays that upside. He knows what he's stepping into every
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  Speaker 1: time he agrees to do the show right. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: this first episode of this new season, they were given
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  Speaker 1: the challenge at the end of the I guess maybe
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  Speaker 1: the episode one of the final episodes of last season
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  Speaker 1: and had a year to accomplish everything. And the way
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  Speaker 1: that the season the episode plays out, Jonathan's watched some clips,
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  Speaker 1: but I insist he needs to see the whole episode.
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  Speaker 1: The way it plays out, I don't know where they're
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  Speaker 1: going to go from here, Like they started at the
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  Speaker 1: echelon of a game changer episode.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they they had an episode. Sam Reich had
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  Speaker 2: started an episode had his contestants on there and then
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  Speaker 2: reveals to them essentially at the beginning of the game,
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  Speaker 2: like he gives them a set of tasks and says,
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  Speaker 2: you have one year to complete these tasks, and then
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  Speaker 2: sends them on their way.
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  Speaker 1: It was at the very end of the episode, not
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  Speaker 1: at the very beginning, Oh was it. Yeah, So they
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  Speaker 1: finished their episode of Sam says, and he goes, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, as you're leaving, here's your Dossier's you have
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  Speaker 1: one year.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And so the taping of the episode happens a
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  Speaker 2: year later and they have to come back and show how,
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  Speaker 2: if at all, they achieved their various tasks, which I
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  Speaker 2: know one of them was involving getting locks of hair.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really interesting. You definitely should watch the full episode.
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  Speaker 1: It is one hundred percent worth. It also the latest
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  Speaker 1: episode of Very Important Person which we've talked about on
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  Speaker 1: the show from Dropout, which is a comedian or an
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  Speaker 1: actor gets dressed up as a character. They don't know
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  Speaker 1: what until they're fully dressed, and then they see it
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  Speaker 1: and they have to come up with a character and
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  Speaker 1: do an improvised interview with Vic mchaelis. This week's guest
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: was Echo Kellum, who was mister Terrific on the Flash
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  Speaker 1: TV show Very Funny Guy, and the episode has some
• 10:37
  Speaker 1: incredibly funny moments, one that broke Vic mchaeless, but overall
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  Speaker 1: it's not the funniest episode. However, it is maybe the
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  Speaker 1: most well thought out character and story arc in one
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  Speaker 1: of those episodes I've seen, Like you can tell that
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  Speaker 1: he approached this even on a quick run, approached this
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  Speaker 1: character development in more of an actor mindset of like
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  Speaker 1: that's complete the story and likes and dislikes and things
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  Speaker 1: before I go in, And it really showed. I really
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  Speaker 1: enjoyed it. I'm not caught up on the end of
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  Speaker 1: Daredevil or White Lotus. I have one more episode of
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  Speaker 1: each of those, and we started Paradise.
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  Speaker 2: I don't if you're familiar with that, I'm not familiar.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, the log line doesn't sound at all geeky
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  Speaker 1: at all. It's a secret Service agent. The president dies
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: in secret Service agent needs to find out what happens,
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  Speaker 1: so it sounds like a CSI procedural kind of political thing.
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  Speaker 1: But both our friend Chrispy and our friend Kate said
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  Speaker 1: that they really loved it, and it's very puzzle boxy
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  Speaker 1: and when you get into the episode, it's not as
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  Speaker 1: geeky as Severance, it's not as bizarre as Severance, but
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  Speaker 1: it is more than Meet Ci and it is puzzle boxy.
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  Speaker 1: So we're a couple episodes into that.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of Severance, have we talked since you were able
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  Speaker 2: to catch up and watch the last episode?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if we have. I think we did.
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  Speaker 1: I think we did, because we're like, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: where it's gonna go from here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't remember if I had said that, Like
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  Speaker 2: I was just trying to be really, you know, vague
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  Speaker 2: about it because I didn't want to give you any spoilers.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I wasn't sure if you had if we
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  Speaker 2: had recorded one since you got a chance, did you Overall?
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  Speaker 2: What did you think of season two?
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  Speaker 1: I liked it. I know that a few people were
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: a little disappointed at the beginning of it. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if that feeling carried through, but I think that
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  Speaker 1: is less the content and more just the amount of
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  Speaker 1: time that they had.
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  Speaker 2: To build up.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if you were in this boat, the
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  Speaker 1: amount of time they had to build up expectations between
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: season one and season two because of COVID, and the
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  Speaker 1: writer strikes and the actor strikes, and it just took
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  Speaker 1: a very long time to produce it. I didn't have
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  Speaker 1: that problem because I watched season one as season two
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  Speaker 1: was coming out for the first time, so I enjoyed it.
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  Speaker 1: There were some episodes that were like slower than others,
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  Speaker 1: but overall I thought that a good They did a
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  Speaker 1: good job of revealing things while not feeling like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: they've solved the story and there's nowhere else we can
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  Speaker 1: go from this, which is great because I want another season.
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  Speaker 1: There's so much bizarre, I will say in the final
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  Speaker 1: episode there and again, apologies if we already talked about this.
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  Speaker 1: There are some things that I was a little disappointed
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  Speaker 1: in the explanation of, and I hope that there is
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  Speaker 1: more to it than that in the long run.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like there's the goats, Yes, the goats. Also, like
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  Speaker 2: we learn more about Cold Harbor, but there's a big
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  Speaker 2: question of why that really hasn't been fully answered yet,
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  Speaker 2: Like the why is this being done hasn't really been
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  Speaker 2: exploded thoroughly, so it's a bit confusing, Like we know
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  Speaker 2: what was happening to an extent, but we don't know
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  Speaker 2: why it was happening. Also, like the way it ends,
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  Speaker 2: it raises the question of, well, how the heck do
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: they do as season three where you have both Innies
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  Speaker 2: and Audi's of the same characters like it throughout the season.
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  Speaker 2: Not to spoil anything, but it ends in such a
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  Speaker 2: way where it's hard to imagine a situation where the
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  Speaker 2: Innies and Audis continue on. Either they're going to stay
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: any or they're going to stay AUTI. So, yeah, it's
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  Speaker 2: kind of weird. The biggest concern I've heard is people
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  Speaker 2: worrying that they are just kind of making it up
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  Speaker 2: as they go along and they don't really have a
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  Speaker 2: kind of a plan in mind. And I hope that's
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  Speaker 2: not the case. I'm not willing to just assume that
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  Speaker 2: they don't have a plan. I have more faith than that.
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  Speaker 2: But I too remember such things as Lost, So.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I overall enjoyed the Lost Journey because I
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  Speaker 1: didn't think about it too hard. I still enjoy that show,
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  Speaker 1: but I think they have more of a plan. At
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  Speaker 1: least they've thought through more of the the world.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. The only thing is the how important is
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: kir outside the doors of Lumen? And you and I
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  Speaker 2: have had that conversation before on this show, in fact,
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  Speaker 2: about how it is curious how Kir is almost deified
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  Speaker 2: within Lumen, but then outside of Lumen it seems like
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: Kier has little to no presence. And you brought up
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  Speaker 2: the potential comparison to something like scientology and l Ron Hubbard,
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  Speaker 2: which makes a lot of sense.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, there is that, but it does have so
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  Speaker 1: like outside of Luman, it does have locally. He does
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  Speaker 1: have locally a huge influence because he owns everything. The
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  Speaker 1: town is called Kir. The town's around Kere, pd which
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  Speaker 1: is a Season one reveal. It's a state we don't
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  Speaker 1: know about unless it's uh Port, I don't know Rhode
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  Speaker 1: Island is now Prota Port, Delaware.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: You know, there's like so the entire town is owned
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  Speaker 1: by Ker. Housing is subsidized by Ker. Here has other
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  Speaker 1: towns that he owns, so he is at least a
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  Speaker 1: very rich mogul in the real world. We don't know
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  Speaker 1: outside of those towns if those are like compounds, uh
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  Speaker 1: or if like it's an equating to some giant billionaires
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  Speaker 1: in the real world. Now you know.
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  Speaker 2: So, But the the the thing that I trip up
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  Speaker 2: on is that within Lumen He's referenced in ways that
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  Speaker 2: sound very close to biblical, right, like the the language
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  Speaker 2: and the syntax used evokes biblical uh, very logical, yes yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And then outside you know, no one speaks about here
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  Speaker 2: in such like poetic terms, which is why again, like
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  Speaker 2: you're just kind of it makes me curious as to
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  Speaker 2: what is the general perception of here outside of Luman.
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  Speaker 2: Like if you are just an ordinary person going throughout
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  Speaker 2: your life, you don't work for Lumen, what do you do?
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  Speaker 2: You just you know, because I'm getting increasingly suspicious that
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  Speaker 2: a lot of the stories around Kre are just one
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  Speaker 2: h made up and that I'm really curious to find
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  Speaker 2: out if there will be a reveal later down the
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  Speaker 2: line that this is a methol that the current or
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  Speaker 2: maybe like a generation or two generations back the current
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  Speaker 2: here family have have kind of fabricated in order to
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  Speaker 2: create a sense of importance.
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  Speaker 1: Kerr could have fabricated some of it himself. We do
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  Speaker 1: know this is a slight spoiler if you haven't caught up.
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  Speaker 1: On season two, they talk about ker meeting his wife
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  Speaker 1: and in an ether factory in the ancient flore We
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  Speaker 1: know now that is fact in some form or fashion.
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  Speaker 1: We know that he worked at an ether factory, but.
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  Speaker 2: We don't know like it's it's so clear that they
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: play fast and loose with the rules or with the facts.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, just the very nature of Milchik's gift shows
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: you they play very fast and loose. So but I
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: don't want to turn this into a severance cast or
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: anything like that. I did not get to go to
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: the Writers Guild of America event where it was. It
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: was a four year consideration event at FYC event where
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: you know, shows will occasionally do this kind of thing
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: where they're trying to convince members of the WGA or
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: other associations that have awards that they are worthy of consideration.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: I got an invite to that, I did not respond
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: to it in time to secure a spot, and then
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Ariel very thoughtfully sent me videos of all the stuff
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: I missed.
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: It was really interesting. It was very you know thematic.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: I love that you stay in New York because the
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: show films in New Jersey, New York and Canada, and
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: the Lupman Headquarters building is an actual office building in
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: New Jersey, I believe. So you stay in New York
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: and then they picked you up in like Lumen buses
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: and drove you to the event in New Jersey.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you had to ride an hour and a half
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: to get to the UH to the office building. So
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: part of me is kind of glad I didn't go
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: because I didn't have to sit next to someone I
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: didn't know, or I mean, it.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Could have been fun, and I mean especially if you
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: had a plus one. I don't know if you did.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: But also I hope that they piped in like severance
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: music into the bus or like kir do do do
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: the heir him that uh miss uh self no cobol.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Coble check. Yeah, Patrisharcat's character, Yeah yeah maybe like uh
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: what was it? Was it choreography and merriment? I can't remember.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: I believe that's it, the Department of Choreography merriment.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: If they were, if they were to greet you at
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: the at the bus stop. I know that Miss Huang
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: was there, the actress playing Miss Wang, the young actress
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: was was there in character as you walked in, and
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh, that's so cool. I I would
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: have enjoyed that.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: But I wonder if what they're going to do with her,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: because she already looks much older than when she started.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they kind of they may have taken care
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: of that already. Yeah, but no spoilers. All right, Well,
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: that's that's enough severance chat for now. I mean, we've
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: got ever. We probably have three years before we get
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: to talk about it again, so it's.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Going to be much quicker this time. I think, knock
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: on wood because hopefully no more writers, actor strikes, no
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: more pandemics. I'm hoping.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Gosh me too, like it's where you're still dealing with
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: the fallout of the last one. All right, well, then
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: let us turn, as we always do, to our section
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: of thirty seconds or less. Us should go quickly because
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: we only have four stories.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my fault. I was. I was derelict in
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: combing through throughout the week.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's your fault. Also, I also looked
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: and checked occasionally, and it was just kind of it
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: was a little slow. Last week was a bit more.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it was busier.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was so much good stuff last week that
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: I didn't get to talk about. But it's okay. So yeah,
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: the first story is that the Oscars are going to
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: start honoring stunt performers in twenty twenty eight, which should
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: have started happening a long time ago. Same with casting directors.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: The Oscars are going I don't know if they did
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: this year, but if they didn't, they're going to start
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: honoring casting directors too, because those are both very important
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: roles in the film industry. It's weird to me that
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: they are waiting until twenty twenty eight to do this.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: It's been in talks a while, but it will be.
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: They'll start including stunt performers in their one hundredth Academy
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Awards ceremony.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess they're putting significance to that one hundred number.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: And I think The Fall Guy deserves a big thank
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: you from the stunt community because I have a feeling
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: that film in particular really pushed forward their cause. Okay,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: I know it's thirty seconds or less. There we go.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: There's a trend, mostly among teenage boys, to raise a
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: ruckus at screenings of a Minecraft movie. It's during a
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: scene featuring a chicken jockey, which is a small zombie
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: writing a chicken. Now, this is a really rare encounter
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: in the game, but spoiler alert, it happens in every
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: screening of the movie. You go to anyway. At that
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: point the film, some folks have been throwing food and
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: drinks and screaming like crazy, and in at least one case,
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: releasing an actual live chicken into the theater. And yes,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: this is a trend on TikTok. Why do you ask.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Interesting this story? I actually don't fully under my recovery
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: brain doesn't fully understand. But CBS has lost the rights
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: to Jeopardy and Wheel of Fortune. Sony is taking over
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: distribution duties for the two shows based on a court ruling.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: They say that CBS is in reach of contract apparently
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: for like bundling and marketing. They've bundled it with some
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: less less like desirable shows and have maybe laid off
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: some of the marketing and advertising people for the shows
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: that Sony doesn't think they should. Sony filed this, and
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: then CBS filed like a restraining order, and then the
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: court denied the restraining order, and so for now CBS
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: no longer owns the rights to Jeopardy and Wheel of Fortune.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: All right, we'll put a pin on that because I
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: have a couple of follow ups. But first, Nintendo switched
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: to console is having a bumpy path to release It's
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: due to hit stores in early June, but the tariff
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: situation here in the United States has complicated matters, prompting
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Nintendo to postpone pre orders for the time being. Nintendo
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: is manufacturing the consoles in Vietnam, which is under a
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: forty six percent tariff at the moment. However, that forty
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: six percent tariff is suspended for ninety days. The company
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: already announced the switch to would cost four hundred and
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: fifty dollars US, but tariffs could hike that price up further,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: which is a big old yikes.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: So I'm going back to the to the CBS Jeopardy
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Wheel of Fortune story. First of all, it shows how
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: long ago it's been since I've watched Jeopardy or Wheel
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: of Fortune.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I thought you're missing out on Pop Cult Jeopardy.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: I thought they were on NBC because I remember them
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: being on NBC affiliates back when I was watching those shows.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Actually Pop CULTU Jeopardies on Amazon, so forgive me, okay.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Secondly, the bundling thing is a very common thing that
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: happens in the television industry, particularly in cable and generally
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: the idea is that you know a cable company wants
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: to sell my experience, it was always cable channels. So
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: you would have like a big company, I don't know,
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: let's say the Discovery company, and they have lots of
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: different channels, and a couple of those channels are ones
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: that everybody wants because it's very popular with customers, so
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: things like Discovery Science Channel or maybe you know, something
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: along those lines. But you also have other channels that
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: maybe are less popular. But you want to sell all
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: your channels. So what you do is you say, okay,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: you can have these channels, but they come in a bundle,
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: so you have to take all of them. You can't
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: just take the big ones that you want. You have
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: to take everything. So I know that that happens on
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: a channel level. I imagine the same thing was happening
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: with CBS, and it's just that perhaps they didn't have
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: the right legal standing to do that. And that's a
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: big old whoopsie.
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: Is a big old whopsie. So that's it. Now we're
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: going into our second half of It's not going to
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: be really thirty seconds or less for this because probably
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: talk about them a little bit. The things that are
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: what not are geeky that we kind of think are
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: still geeky.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're kind of geek adjacent, or at least they're interesting.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: And in some cases there are things that I'm actually
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: going to have a little warning about. But first up,
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: I saw the trailer. Did you watch this trailer for
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Wes Anderson's The Phoenician Scheme?
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: I did, And you know what, honestly, it's just it
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: just feels like, Oh, a Wes Anderson movie.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: I mean, all of his movies feel like a Wes
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Anderson movie. Wes Anderson has a very particular style and approach,
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: but it does look it looks entertaining to me, and
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: has a dynamite cast, like an enormous and incredibly talented cast,
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: a lot of people that Wes Anderson has worked with before,
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Tom Hanks standing in for Bill Murray. I didn't see
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Bill Murray in there at all, and I was wondering, like,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: maybe did they have a falling out? Because Bill Murray
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: was supposed to be in a previous west enders In
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: film but for whatever reason wasn't able to do it,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: and then Tom Hanks essentially played that part. So now
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: I'm wondering if Bill Murray is upset about that. But
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but there's tons of really talented people
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: in it. It looks entertaining, and that's why I included it.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Then I had a trailer for a crime action film
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: called Havoc, and I just want to give a warning
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: out there to anyone who's sensitive toward violence. This is
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: not the trailer for you to watch because it is
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: super violent.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah it again it you know what, it is super violent.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: It didn't upset me that much, though.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Well that's good. I remember I put this in early
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: in the week, so I now have no memory of
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: what actually happens in the trailer, so I'm relying entirely
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: upon the fact that I made a note of it
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: being violent in the description. Gotcha, I assume you took
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: my advice and did okay. So there's a this is
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: the animal horror movie I was referencing earlier. There's a
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: film called A Breed Apart that has a Haidden Panetiera,
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: and you know she was in Heroes, So that's one
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: reason to include it, just because we have an actress
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: who is known for her portrayal of a character on
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: a geek show. But it's a It starts off where
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: it's you see dogs that are weird and mutated. But
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: it turns out that's in a that's where there's a
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: filming going on for a horror movie, and that the
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: dogs are actually just dogs. They're not mutated or anything,
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: but they are bad dogs. And the production either gets
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: shut down or ends early or something. And then like
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: the next year, there's a group of influencers who come
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: to the island to hunt dogs because the dogs have
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: turned feral and dangerous, and I'm just like, everything about
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: this is upsetting me.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: I hate that. I hate that so much I won't
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: watch it.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: No, I won't either. Like I started the trailer thinking
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: it was gonna be one thing, because I thought it
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: was gonna be, oh, weird mutant dogs, Okay, but no,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: it's dogs that are just like, they're very organized and
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: dangerous or whatever. But I still don't agree with the
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: idea of getting a group of useless influencers and I
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: say that as an useless influencer type and handing them
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: guns and saying go and kill Fido. I think that's
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: awful And I have no interest in seeing that movie.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: If anyone out there wants to see it, I'm not
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: gonna judge anyone for it or anything. I just can't
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: imagine a situation where I would sit through this.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: I don't watch old Fella, Old Feller, Old Yellow.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: I watch Old Feller all the time. He just walks
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: around my neighborhood.
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: He says, yeah, homeward bound kujo, I don't. I barely
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: watch airbud okay.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: The next one is for a movie called G twenty
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: and I really it's it's a political I think the
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: I think the Pentagon like gets taken over something like that.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: I included it because Viola Davis is the action star
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: of this movie and Anthony star Viola Davis, who played
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: I mean award winning actress, but also plays head of
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: the suicide squad Amanda Amanda Waller. Yeah, she gets to
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: be and how often do we get to see Viola
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Davis be the action hero? So that's really cool.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: And then and the star, of course Homelander Homelander from
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: the Boys is the Boys the villain Amanda Waller versus Homelander.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: So it's so that alone, like, I don't think this
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: is going to be the geekiest movie, but the casting
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: sure is like almost like fan casting, right villain Yeah. Uh.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: They also make Viola Davis like like a super super
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: adept at taking bad guys out, so I'm sure it's
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: gonna be. I think she's supposed to be playing the president,
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: so I assume they're going to have it where she
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: has a background in the military or whatever before becoming president.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Otherwise I don't know. She's a real quick study.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, I'm vaguely interested in this one. Again,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: I like, I don't see them all. I always say
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: I want to, but I don't because I'm bad at
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: film follow through. Sometimes it's harder than television because it's
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: more of a time commitment usually, but I really, you know,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: as a as an actress of a certain age. But
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: I'm still young, and I can play even younger than
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: I am. I come across even younger on film, so
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: that's fantastic. But I super appreciate the trend of Hollywood
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: turning to these women who for a long time once
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: you hit like your fifties and even later thirties and forties,
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: for a long time, and thankfully that's not the case anymore.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: But when you hit your fifties, you were relegated to
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: playing grandma and that was it. Even sometimes in your forties,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: and so to see all of these beautiful and like
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: men as a age are always considered distinguished and handsome,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: and women for a long time were just considered to
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: age and look old in Hollywood. Again, this is not
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: real life, but in Hollywood there was the stigma and
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: kind of bias. And so to see all these beautiful
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: women in their fifties and sixties and even older get
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: to be these gorgeous action stars and badass women. Still,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm all for you know, Helen Marrin kind of
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: is the standout for me who started that, like with
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: Red and things like that. But I love it, so
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: I want to support that.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, what you're talking about is essentially why
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: we had films like The Substance, right, Like it was
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: essentially to take to and it's something that I think
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: everybody knows, Like you just have to be a consumer
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: of entertainment to pick up on this. It's not like
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: it's a well kept secret in Hollywood, just like some
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: of the darker sides of the entertainment industry, which are
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: thankfully slowly getting unraveled. You know, that was never a secret.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: They're jokes about that kind of stuff, but it's nice
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: that these issues are being actually talked about and people
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: are doing things about it instead of just like, well,
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: that's just how it is. Guess we gotta accept it.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It is also interesting because you can have a like,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: what was it the guy who played Superman in Smallville,
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: it's like thirty or thirty five or something like that,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: playing a fifteen sixteen year old. But then you could
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: have a thirty year old who's younger than him playing
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: his mom because she looks her age, or his grandma
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: because she looks her age.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: And yeah, so it's like the issue well perception, like
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: where Tom Cruise, where his leading lady was typically thirty
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: years younger than he. That's always kind of creepy. Well,
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: tell me about a Scottish samurai movie.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this one, Like I almost put it in our
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: main lineup. I'm not gonna lie. It's about a woman,
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: a woman samurai who's being chased I guess by the
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Scottish mafia or like, I don't know. It's a samurai movie,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: but the lead actress is a woman named Tornado, her
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: character named Tornado, and it just looks like a fun
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: samurai movie. It looks really good.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: Man, Tim Roth is in it, and it's supposed to
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: be set in seventeen ninety, which it was interesting because
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: as I was watching, goes like, Okay, I don't know
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: what era this is in, but people are using like
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: bow and arrow and stuff as opposed to firearms. So
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: I was just curious. And then I scrolled down and
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: looked at the the blurb under the trailer and it
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: said seventeen ninety so it definitely looks interesting.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you get a lot of like Samurai
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: versus Wild West, So this is that, but in Scotland
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: with a female protagonist.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: So yeah, uh, and then we have a a comedy
• 36:27
  Speaker 2: thriller kind of film. This sort of it makes me
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: think of, oh gosh, what's the What was the horror
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: movie that Alan Tudic was in? That was a comedy
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: horror movie? Like Dale was one of the names of
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: the two characters. You know what I'm talking about though,
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: right versus Evil? Yeah, Tucker and Dale? Was it? Tucker
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: and Dale versus Evil?
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Was that Alan Tudick?
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Alent Tudic was in that.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: I never I mean I never watched it. You told
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: me it was kind of violent. It's fine, Yeah, Tucker
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: and Dale versus they're the ones who did that clown
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: thing we talked about the other week.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: So I don't understand. You reminds me a lot of
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: that film because the premise is that it's a couple,
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: a gay couple, who are they are going to adopt
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: a baby. They are taking a vacation in Italy before
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: they adopt the baby, and then, through a series of
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: unfortunate events, as you might say, they accidentally appear to
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: cause the death of a nice Italian nanny who was
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: serving them a home cooked meal as part of their vacation.
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: They accidentally, like the power goes out and one of
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: them accidentally bumps into her knox or down a staircase,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: where she apparently dies, and then things escalate from there,
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: and they're just desperate to try and hide evidence of
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: all this stuff that's going on and getting worse and
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: worse and worse, because of course they don't want to
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: get in trouble. They want to be able to adopt
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: a baby, they want to be able to get out
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: of the country without being arrested. And it just looks
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: very like like a very dark comedy. So it's the
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: kind of thing that appeals to me, But it's not
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: very geeky. It does have I think one of the
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: two actors, Nick Kroll's one of them.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Nick Kroll and Andrew Reynolds, who was the originating lead
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: actor in Book of Mormon.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Elder Price in the Book of Mormon. Yeah, so
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: I would if you like dark comedy, you might want
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: to check that trailer out. I think, you know, if
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: something like Heather's or anything along those lines kind of
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: appeals to you, take a look see if if it
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: floats your boat. For people who are not big into
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: dark comedy, don't know that this is the movie for you.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Honestly, I watched the beginning of it. I watched
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: them talk to Amanda Sefried because she plays the Sarah
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: Gate mom, and then I was like, well, this looks cute,
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: but it's not fitting our lineup. But I just didn't
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: stick with the trailer long enough. Is really what it is?
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta stick with it long enough to see
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: while all the crazy stuff happened. But now let us
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: move to talk about stuff that is more aligned with
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: our show. Although the first one could honestly could have
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: gone into segment two, which is the mission impossible, the
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: final reckoning, we got a trailer for that, and in
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: the trailer there's a line that just tells me everything
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: I need to know, which is that it's doing the
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: same thing that other Mission Impossible movies do that irritate
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: the living heck out.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Of me, which is.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: So more often than not, not in every movie, but
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: in most of them, the story turns out that someone
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: either within the m I program or within some other
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: US based intelligence agency, is out to get m I. So,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: in other words, the enemy is always from within. It's
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: always a betrayal. Every single time it's a betrayal. And
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: it gets to a point where I'm like, why do
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: you even have these departments in the first place. All
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: they're doing is fighting either themselves or each other, and
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: meanwhile exposing the entire country to external threats. What's their purpose?
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: I don't understand, because you're never actually fighting against, say
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: a foreign intelligence And I get why. It's because you
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: want to be able to sell the movie there, and
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: you don't want say China getting upset or whatever, because
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: that means they won't carry the movie and you won't
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: make millions of dollars that way. But it's You're just like,
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: why do you even have any of these organizations. All
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: they do is betray each other.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: Okay, here's the thing. If this were the first Mission
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Impossible movie, it would look fun. One movie of like, oh, hey,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: the enemies within, that's fine. Twenty nine. I don't know
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: how many are in the Mission Impossible. I haven't watched all,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: but like one and a half of them. That's too many.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: That's too many not to have fixed the problem. That
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: being said, if this could be a standalone Mission Impossible,
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: if it's your first one, if you don't need to
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: have watched the entire catalogue of Mission Impossible movies, it
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: could be a fun action flick. It does have Nick
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: Off Herman and Tremmel Tillman in it, and so like
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Tremel Tillman plays mister Milchick on Severence. How we're not
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: done with Severence, So like that alone could like be fun.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there are eight movies in the franchise.
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: Twenty nine.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: That's the same thing. I think there might be one
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: film in the series where it's not someone from either
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: the m I program or some other US based intelligence
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: agency where that's the bad guy. But you know, it
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: would be like if every James Bond movie. It turned
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: out the villain was secretly part of the Double O
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: program or as part of like I six or something.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: You it just gets old anyway. That's my big issue.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Like the outlandish technology and crazy stunts and all that.
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: I think are fine, it's movie magic whatever. I'm just
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: tired of the trope of oh, we've been betrayed, Like
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: you're always being betrayed. That's that's your status quo. You're
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: always being betrayed, that's your secret.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: You're always being betrayed. Speaking of old though, yeah, we're
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: getting another thing that maybe didn't need another sequel, and
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: that's Tron. We finally got the trailer. We knew about
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: this for a while. We finally got the trailer for
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: Tron Aries.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. This was one that confused me at first, and
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: I had a really like knee jerk negative reaction because
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: in this one, some of the computer generated creations make
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: their way into the real world, and I was like,
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: wait a minute, that makes no sense. And then I thought, Jonathan,
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: you idiot. Does it make any sense that a human
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: being could be digitized and put into a computer in
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: the first place, and then re integrated like to be
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: put back together at the end. No, none of that
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: makes sense. So of course this is perfectly fine. But
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: it's so funny to me that initially my reaction was, well,
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: that's impossible, this is dumb.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Did you have that same like reaction to like inception
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: or no.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: That's the thing is that it's just like again, like
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: I questioned my own reaction after I had it, it
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: was like Matri. It was like, within thirty seconds, I
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: went through the whole thing of like this is stupid.
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: To wait a minute, why is it stupid? Like the
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: initial premise is already ridicted. If you buy into that,
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: then this should just be fine.
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Here's the thing, Like seeing a light cycle cut through
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: a police car is kind of cool and fun that
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: that effect was neat. It's very dark trailer, so it's
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: kind of hard and there's a lot going on. It's
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: kind of hard to tell what actually is happening through.
• 44:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it has to be dark though, because
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: all the characters from the Tron world are all light up,
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: and if it was bright daylight outside you wouldn't be
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: able to see the looks good.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but in the trailer there's like this giant spaceship
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: thing flying around and it's hard to Maybe it's because
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: I just don't remember the first two movies well enough.
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: It's the one that has the two long legs that
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: stick down. It's that one which has a name, and
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: all the Tron fans out there are screaming it at me,
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: but it doesn't matter. You're not in my room, so
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: I can't hear you. It starts with an R, but it's.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: Hard to see what's going, Like, what's actually happening on
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: the screen.
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah for me? For me, recognizer, it's a RECOGNI recognizer.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So like, honestly, it's because I don't remember. I
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: watched the original Tron a few times. I saw the
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: second Tron movie when it first came out because I
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: was in Fort Lauderdale to go on to Joco Cruise
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: and so we were chilling an evening and watched that
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: and it was fine. I don't remember a lot, honestly,
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: So that's my problem.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: The second movie is not very memorable, but it has
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: a great soundtrack. THATNK is a great soundtrack.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: I think that's what they're leaning on for this one too,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: because the big the big thing about Tron three is
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: that nine Inch Nails is doing an original soundtrack for it,
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, that's not enough to sell me on
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: a movie.
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, well, what about Jared Leno? Doesn't that absolutely not? Yeah,
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: we both had a we both like I think we
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: both maybe forgot that he was in it. I know
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: we've talked about him being in it, because we talked
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: about it back when this was just a film that
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: was in pre production. But it still was just like, oh.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, here's the thing. If you don't if you
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: are a newer listener and you don't understand why we're
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: responding this way, it's because Jared Leto is one of
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: those actors who takes method acting to and what we
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: view as an unhealthy place. You know, there's in a
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: place that I think Stanislovsky, the originator or the person
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: who kind of put method acting down on paper for
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: actors as his method. It's a Stanislovsky method kind of
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: didn't intend. So you're supposed to be able to draw
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: on real life experiences and emotions to inform your character
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: right yourself in imaginary circumstances. And there is something to
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: be said for like figuring out you need to know
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: how your character walks, acts, talks things behaves in a space.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: But when you take that to living your life as
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: that character, if that character is an unhealthy person and
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: you just decide to live for months or years as
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: that unhealthy person, and you you affect yourself negatively and
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: also other actors negatively.
• 47:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you do things.
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: That are not cool, like sending people dead dead pigs
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: or rats or whatever.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it may be okay.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, to pulling out your own teeth, like, these are
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: things you don't need to do. It's it's taking the
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: method to an unhealthy place, like it's still acting. You
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: need to be able to draw on these tools and
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: then leave them when you're not in that character.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: And a lot of the criticism we've seen about the
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: taking method to the extreme this way, often people remark
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: about the fact that it's odd that you never seem
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: to embrace that when you're playing someone who is healthy
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: and happy and like a compassionate character like you're never
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: you don't see them like embracing method. Then you're embracing
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: method in characters who often have really bad behavior, and
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: it starts to feel more like, oh, you're using this
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: as an excuse to behave badly as opposed to this
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: is a real tool for you to be able to
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: do your craft. Well, why aren't you doing if you're
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: playing mister Rogers, why aren't you being the nicest person
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: in the world. Like that's a bad example because it
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: was Tom Hanks, and he's pretty he seems to be
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: a pretty good guy. But you know, you get what
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: So so I mean, like again, there is There's something
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: I've heard several of my acting teachers say, which is
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: it is easier to play someone opposite you, you know,
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: then then to play someone like you, because when you're
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: playing someone like you, that's that's burying your soul. That's
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: a very that's a very.
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: Vulnerable, vulnerent thank you.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: That's the word vulnerable place to be when you're playing
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: someone evil. I can understand maybe doing research into understanding,
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: like if you're playing Ted Bundy or somebody right, doing
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: the research understanding where he was going from, where his
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: mind was at, figuring out why he did the things
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: he did. That's important to playing that character. As an actor.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: You need to make sure you have the tools that
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: when you aren't doing the research, you can step outside
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: of it. You should not be living in that place.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: Twenty four to seven. If you need that to play
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: the role effectively, I personally don't believe you are the
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: actor to be playing that role. I have auditioned for
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: bad guys, killers, violent people, things like that. I'm not
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: that person. I have to think about situations. I have
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: to think about, like what would be a circumstance that
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: would get me to this place? And yes, that is
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: hard work to do. Is acting is not easy. You
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: often have to go to places that are not great.
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: But I have the tools in place that when I
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: am done doing that work, I step outside of it.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: Even when I was doing the I'm sorry, I'm getting
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: real deep down a rabbit hole, even when like I
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: played the mother of one of the Columbine shooters in
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: a play last year, and that was a really hard
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: place to go because I had to understand all of
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: the nuances of her grief and her denial and the
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: effects of other people on her life and her effects
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: on other people's lives, and like it was, it was hard.
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: That was a hard role for me, and like it,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: it was a hard role to step out of. But
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: I didn't live my life as her. I did my
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: research and then I took time and I took self
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: care and I stepped back into my regular life and
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: at the end of a show or at the end
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: of my scene in the show, I would I came
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: up with a process to be able to step out
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: of that character again so that I'm not living my
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: life in this unhealthy place of grief. It was a
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: struggle to do, but you need to do it. Like again,
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: if be if stepping into a role is unhealthy for you,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: you should not do that role. There's no amount of
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: money that makes that okay.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and Jared Leedo just has a reputation for a
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: kind of not following that same philosophy. And perhaps, like
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: I said, perhaps, and this may just be my biased perception,
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: but perhaps leaning on method as an excuse to do
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: like outrageous and negative things. Anyway, Tron areas. If you
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: asked me what if what I thought about it, I'd
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: say it's Pixels. But with Tron, I didn't watch Pixels.
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: You shouldn't, it's not good.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: I also didn't watch the first five Nights at Freddy's movie,
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: though I did enjoy, and by that I mean the
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: new one. I did enjoy watching all of like the
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: behind the scenes of Jim Henson doing the animatronics and
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: how they would seemingly move on their own. I thought
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: that was pretty cool.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: I didn't see that. I uh yeah. The reason when
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: you bring this up is because we got a teaser
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: for five nights at Freddy's two. I am only familiar
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: with the games. I never watched the first film. This
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: trailer didn't do much, or this teaser, I should say,
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: didn't do much for me. I could see where this
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: could be fun for either big fans of the game
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: who are really into the lore, or younger horror fans,
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: like people who are just starting to get into horror.
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: I could see where that could be appealing. Like I
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: think about when I was a kid and the movies
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: that got me into horror, movies like Gremlins and the Gate,
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: stuff like that, Jaws to some extent. If you consider
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: Jaws a horror movie, I don't know. Some people probably
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: think of it as I don't know what they think of.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: It as in the first scene, that first scene where
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: the woman is getting intact in the water is terrifying.
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's it's a great movie for well, I mean,
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: since it allows you to use your imagination to figure
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: out what might be happening out of view. It's an
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: incredibly effective film, but that's you know, people have talked
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: about that to death, and certainly more eloquently than I could.
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I thought Five Nights If Freddy's Too teaser
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: was was just okay, But it's not. It's not a
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: movie that was made for me.
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I you know, there's there's this contingency of young
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: teenage girls, and I'm sure there always has been. It's
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: just I've got a lot of friends who've got like
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: kids who are like tween age years now. We're really
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: into like dark stuff and horror, light horror and darker
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: anime stuff, and this like feels like that, except for
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: I've had a couple of my friends who have like
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: tween age kids who went to go see that movie
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: and it was too scary for them.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: So but yea, yeah, it's an interesting place to be
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: in because, like I said, like the games are pretty intense,
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: like they rely I mean they rely heavily on jump
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: scares right like very quiet and then it gets really
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: loud and something's jumping out at you. That there's not
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: a whole lot of subtlety or artistry that goes into
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: that kind of thing, like it's it's good to know
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: when to do it, when to pull the trigger. But yeah,
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: there's not a whole lot of like cranking up the
• 54:11
  Speaker 2: atmosphere and making it really creepy. There's some elements of that.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: Most of that is like the lore around it, and
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: you know, the early game is really light. It's also
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: one of those things that got like a big fandom
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: that the fandom themselves were almost generating the lore, you know,
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: like they were kind of filling in the gaps, creating
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: the reasons for the things that were happening. So interesting experience,
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: like I would actually I would love to read a
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: book about the phenomenon more than I would like to
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: see this movie.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of reading, I did send you an article.
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: I know this is great audio. I sent you an
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: article about the animatronics moving. I've also seen videos of
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: it and it's really cool. But I don't know if
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: the article has the video of it just for your.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: But I almost jumped into a discussion about animatronics moving
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: and then realized, wait a minute, I can wait, because
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: that's going to be our last story.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Yep, yep, we will, you know, but I prefer like
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: family friendly heartwarming horror, which is what our next trailer is. Apparently. Apparently,
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: if you want heartwarming horror, you just cast comedians in
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: serious horror roles, is what I'm learning from this trailer.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the movie is called Sketch, and it's about a
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: young kid who's feels like an outsider. And so this
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: kid draws a pretty extreme acts of violence, usually with
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: monsters committing the violence, and then through a series of
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: hilarious events, the sketched monsters become real in the real
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: world and start wreaking havoc. And there's the Oh I
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: don't even know the actor's name, but he was in
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: Arrested Development to Tony Hale plays the dad, and and
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: he he's not as useless as his arrested Development character is,
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: but he's not super competent either.
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: Well. And then Darcy Cardon plays the mom, and she
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: was Janet in the good place, yes, and also she
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: was in like a league of a league of their
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: own and things like that. So two great comedic actors
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: kind of playing these serious but not super effective parents
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: as far as we can tell. But it looks it
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: looks fun. It just looks fun. It doesn't look I
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: wouldn't even.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: Call it horror. I mean, like the acts of violence
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: I think are going to be on the level of horror,
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: but we'll see. Yeah, I almost put it as horror comedy,
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: but it's it's certainly more.
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: Of like a it's like a goosebumps level thing.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: I think by the end the family will be closer.
• 56:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's elements of comedy in it, there elements horror,
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: and it's one of those movies it's not super easy
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: to classify, which is not a bad thing. I actually
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: kind of like movies that are like that.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, not to one note.
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: No, maybe if you want one note six times, how
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: about you watch Predator Killer of Killers.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: I watched this trailer. You know what, here's the thing.
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: I didn't hate it. It's by Trackenberg who did Pray,
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: and all of my friends who have watched Prey, which
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: is the Predator prequel that's set in Indigenous America, I
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: don't remember what what tribe it dealt with, but they
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: really liked it.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's It's one of a couple of different
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: Predator projects that are coming out this year, the other
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: being Predator of bad Lands. So this is an animated
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: anthology film, so it's multiple stories told within one movie
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: and uses animation as opposed to live action. And it
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: looks good, like I thought the animation looked good. I
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: thought the trailer looked good. It's very interesting to me.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: It's going to be released on June sixth on Hulu
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: and Disney Plus, at least outside the United States, I
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: don't know about in the US. In the US, it
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: maybe that it's going to the big screen first.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: Speaking of looking pretty good, we got, at least in
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: my circles, a long anticipated trailer for the new Apple
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: Apple Plus murder Bot television show based off of the
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: murder Bot Diaries book series that everybody I know absolutely loves.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Martha Wells wrote those books. And the trailer looks
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: like it looks like it's a satire, like a nice
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: kind of satiric old dark, darkly comedic sci fi film
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: or sci fi series. And I liked. I liked what
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: I saw.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: Have you read the books?
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: I have not read the books.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: The books are phenomenal, Like every single one of my
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: friends who has read the books has loved them. I've
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: started on the audio books. My in laws love the
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: books like it is it's the story is it's a
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: it's a robot that was kind of it's a security
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: detail robot that is named itself murder Bot. I might
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: be getting some of the details wrong, but it doesn't.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: It doesn't actually like interacting with people or being a
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: heavy or doing security or fighting or murdering or any
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: of that stuff. It just wants to sit and be
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: left alone and watch daytime television. And so it's very funny.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: It's kind of I've had some friends compare it to
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: like a certain places is of like being on the
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: spectrum even like that kind of a personality. And I
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: was originally pretty pretty hesitant about the casting of Alexander's
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: Scars Guard as murder Bot, because that's who's playing the
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: main character, because he has in the past been known
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: as like a pretty a pretty boy. He's the pretty
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: boy Scars Guard. But you know what, in this role,
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: he looks pretty awkward and like, like, I didn't want
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: murder Bot to be murder Bot in the books, I think,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: if I'm recalling correctly, doesn't even because he's a they're
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: an android. They don't even really affirm to a gender.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: They're just an android. And so to cast like pretty
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: boy Scars Guard. It was like a little bit like,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: I don't know, but he doesn't he looks awkward, he
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: doesn't look too pretty, he doesn't look too Hollywood. He
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: looks pretty fantastic in the role. I think.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I identify a lot with murder Bot because I
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: have made it very difficult to get in touch with
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: me and I don't want to leave the house ever,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: So I totally understand where he's coming from.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, we bought Apple TV for severance, but I
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: was really hoping and I'm so glad that I'm right
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: that murder Bot would come out right after so that
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: we wouldn't have to get rid of it and then
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: remember to get it again.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So I'm looking forward to this. This is
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: definitely one that's on my watch list. I think the
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: trailer was great. It gave me a good feeling for
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: the tone of the show, which appeals to me. So
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 2: I am I'm very optimistic about this. I feel like
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: it's going to be one of those where I'm going
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: to really click with the series.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, lots lots of action, lots of comedy, and then
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: there's also like they show some of the shows that
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: murder Bot watches in the trailer, and the casting in
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: the fake show within the show is so like crazy
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: like so many well known actors that I just I
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: can't wait to see what they do.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great attention to detail, so I'm looking
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: forward to that too. I'm also looking forward to Thunderbolts.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: I want to say that this is this is probably
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 2: the Marvel film that I'm looking forward to most. Like it.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: I definitely was. I still haven't seen the latest Captain
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: America film. I feel like a bad Captain America fan.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: And while I'm interested in the Fantastic Four, I've never
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: been a huge Fantastic Four fan ever. But that doesn't
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: mean that this movie won't change that. I mean, I
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: could say the same about Guardians of the Galaxy before
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: those movies came out, but it still doesn't change the
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: fact that I'm just not really that invested. Like I'm
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: excited that people who love Fantastic Four are going to
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: get their movie, and hopefully it'll be a really good
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: representation of the characters for them that I think is fantastic.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: I just personally don't really care Thunderbolts. While I'm not
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 2: like super familiar with all the characters beyond what we've
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: already seen in the mcuh. I like the chemistry that
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: I see on screen in these trailers. And so we
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: got another another trailer. This one shows off a bit
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: more of Century the Big Bat. Although I don't know
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 2: if they're going to give him his name. He does
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: have a buckle that has a big S on it.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: So Sam, Sam, Sam, the murder Man.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Honestly, this one, like Century, is the least interesting
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: part of of Thunderbolts to me, murder Bowl.
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: It's often a problem with Marvel movies, though, right where
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: the villain ends up being the least interesting component of
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: the story.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it will remain that way in
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: the story, but honestly, it kind of feels like a
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: boy's rehashing to me, Well.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: It feels like that, and also like the first Suicide
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: Squad movie. It kind of feels like that. Not and
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: oddly not for the reason that I would normally think,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: because if I said, oh, Thunderbolts looks like Suicide Squad,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: you're like, oh, you mean the fact that you've got
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: a bunch of at best anti heroes together to form
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: a somewhat heroic squad. Like No, actually, that's not what
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: I meant. What I meant is the problem in Suicide Squad,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: where Amanda Waller creates her own problem by empowering the Enchantress,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: who then becomes the big bad for the whole movie.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: And that never would have happened if they had not
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: done the Suicide Squad stuff. So Amanda Waller manufactures her
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: own big bad. Same thing here, except this time it's
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: Julia Louis Dreyfus manufacturing her own big bad by creating
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: Sentry or something.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and she works for an organization.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: But the Contessa. I should call her the contessa.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not it's not real life.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: Why did we give Julia Louis dreyf has so much power? Like,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: I don't. I thought you knew. I was just going
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 2: along with it.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: I would expect better of her. Yeah, I mean it
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: looks fun. I wasn't super excited for this one, but
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: the trailers have made it look like it'll it'll be
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: a fun journey. Honestly, I wasn't super excited for Avengers
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: Doom Patrol or whatever. The next Avengers movie is called
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: either Doomsday but yeah, doomsday. But if it were a
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: Doom Patrol crossover, I would be so in But the
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: having Allan Cumming and Winston King and there's one other
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: in there, oh and Channing Tatum. Those aren't spoilers at
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: this point. I'm pretty sure you can't have avoided.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: That news, right, Patrick Stewart, Ian mckella, and Kelsey Grammar.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: I mean all of those are great. Kelsey Grammar too,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: But like the ones that I mentioned are the ones
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: that I'm most excited about being in the new movie.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: And now I'm excited because I just want to see
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: Allan Cumming is Nightcrawler Marvel movie and I want, yeah,
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: correct choice for mystique, correct choice.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: I think it's really interesting, Uh, the cast that they've created.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously there's gonna be a whole multiverse thing
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: happening here. For one thing, if you watched the last
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: Doctor Strange movie, you know that at least one of
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: the Professor X's, as portrayed by Patrick Stewart, is no
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: more because Scarlett Witch done him dirty. But yeah, I
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: did you watch that at least the fast version of
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: the reveal where it's going across all the director chairs
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: with the names on the back.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, once you told me about it, I went
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: in and I I watched the entire rest of the thing.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah slow, because it was a great background.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: Like you said, yeah, it's like every every thirteen minutes.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: I think they did another reveal.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: I did watch the how It Should Have ended spoof
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: on the chair where they're like, geez, spoiler, now we
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: know this person survives this movie, and well, that's.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 2: The thing is, since it's multiverse, you don't yeah, because
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: it could be the multiverse version of the character and
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: not the one that's actually yeah, because like there were
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: there were several of the actors who are in Thunderbolts,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: Like I think all the major ones are listed, but
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 2: again that might be those might be Thunderbolt's characters from
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: a multiverse and not the ones that we're seeing in
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: the movie.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: It was a fun little bit for the cartoon though,
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: and they also played on the fact that everybody wanted
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: I think it was like Moonnight.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone was hoping for Moonnight. Moonnight was a big one.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: There was another one that people were calling out for
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: they were hoping but I can't remember.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: Hulk.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: Hulk was another one. Yea Hulk does not show up
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: in that. Mark Ruffalo was not one of the names listed, but.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: I I do wonder if, like Deadpool and Wolverine, we're
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: going to get a bunch of surprise appearances.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: I'm sure, and it's gonna set it up for the
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: second one of the big Avengers movies. We're probably even
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: more Like I don't expect all those characters to survive. Like,
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: if I had to guess, I'd say, like, the X
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: Men ones are not gonna make it, like maybe they'll
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: They'll get set back to whatever dimension they came from.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: They kill Gambit, he's already well, Gambit might survive.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: Gambit em Beast need to survive, and Gambit Beast to Nightcrawler.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: That's all.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: That's all.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm just saying like they're setting up X Men
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: within the MCU as well, and they had not previously existed.
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 2: So my guess is that we would get like MCU
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: native versions of the X Men at some point, and
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: yet another variation of them. I mean, we we've gotten
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: different variations of Johnny Storm, so it's possible. I think
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: we'll definitely get some surprises. My favorite part of the
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: reveal was they did one joke well too, if you
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: count Robert Donney Junior being you know too cool for
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: school at the end of it. But one joke in
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: the like in the first third of the reveals where
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: Paul Rudd his name was revealed, but they had a
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: smaller director's chair since he's ant Man.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they should have just had all the director chairs
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: on a giant director chair that was also Paul Rudd
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: for Giant Man.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And I noticed on the the faster version where
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 2: they're just doing a quick, faster pan across all of them,
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: Paul Rudd's chair on that one. I mean, it's all CGI,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: but his chair on that one is the same size
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: as everybody else's. I'm like, oh, well, that was the one. Like,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: I'm glad that they had the joke in the reveal
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: where you're waiting thirteen minutes to find out who's next, but.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: I am sad that we didn't get a chair that
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: said Seth Green Oh.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: To get Howard the Duck.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: It was also fun that they would play music related
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: to characters, so you got like the the X Men
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: cartoon theme playing for some of the X Men characters.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: Weird ass music before chant I'm sorry for the language,
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: the weird weird music before chanting Tatum's.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: Chair though, Yeah, now there were some odd choices, but yeah,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: that was a fun reveal. And as I said, Thunderbolts,
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: I'm more excited about Thunderbolts they am for Avengers Doomsday
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: if I'm being honest. But maybe by the time we
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: get around to seeing actual like teasers and trailers for
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: Avengers Doomsday, maybe I'll change my tune. I honestly, I
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: feel so out of the loop with Marvel now, like
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: it's weird because I've only missed a I've missed a
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 2: few things, but now I feel like I am so
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 2: far behind because this is the downside of Marvel having everything,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: at least on some level integrated with all of its
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: other stuff.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: I think a lot of it though you you don't
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: have to watch. You can also just like Rita, what
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: do I need to know before I go into a thing?
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it just doesn't feel it doesn't feel like I'm participating.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: Then, though I've really only missed Secret Wars and I
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: don't plan on going to finish it. I don't plan
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: on finishing it. I also feel out of the words.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: Do you see Captain America? Yeah, okay, I talked about
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: it on the show. I couldn't remember. I thought you had,
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: but I wasn't sure.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: I thought that the story you could tell that there
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: were a bunch of rewrites. I mean, you couldn't really tell.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: It's just as a story wasn't that strong, right, but
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: all of the acting in it, Like, I was kind
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: of worried about Harrison Ford going in because he's taking
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: over somebody else's role, somebody who did a great job
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: in the role because that actor passed, and he's playing
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: a hulk, and he's kind of had a reputation for
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: I don't not greatly selling some of the stuff that
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: he's done recently, not like some of the geek erst
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: his like Apple TV Shrinking, I think has gotten great
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: review but like his Indiana Jones and his on solo stuff,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: people are like, it doesn't feel like his heart's in it.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: So I was a little bit worried.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: But his acting is beautiful and nuanced in this, and
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: he doesn't overplay turning into a Hulk, and I loved it,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: and Anthony Mackie is brilliant as Captain America and so like,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: even though the story wasn't as strong as I wanted
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: and the end teaser was just flat out poop in
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: my opinion like it gave us nothing. It wasn't fun,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: and it didn't give us anything new. I did feel
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: like the performances were a joy to watch, so I
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: enjoyed watching it. I'm glad I saw that. One I
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: don't plan on seeing Secret War, but also I also
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: feel behind. But it's because Marvel, we talked about this
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: last year, has decided that they were just putting out
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: way too much Marvel stuff and they really need to
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: make sure that the stories that they're putting out are
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: Captain America side, are like interesting and diverse and less
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: like same same same. So they or at least they
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: talked about this last year that they were going to
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: put out less Marvel stuff and make sure that the
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: Marvel stuff they were putting out was a better quality.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: We'll see if they live up to that. But that's
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: that was Kevin Feige's plan.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean that was it was clear that
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: the reaction to stuff like the Eternals was not what
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: they were hoping. And so I do hope that Avengers
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 2: Doomsday ends up being, you know, a return to form,
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: and I do plan on seeing Captain America. But like
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: if I were to list all the stuff I haven't seen.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: It would be pretty significant. Like we're talking about now
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 2: that the Netflix shows are more or less canon, there's
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 2: a whole lot I haven't seen because I never watched
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: any ofte Cage or Iron Fist, and I know I
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: don't need to, but I'm saying, like, I haven't watched
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 2: The Defenders, haven't watched The Punisher, I haven't watched season
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: three of Daredevil.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: You might need to watch these three. I don't even
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: think you need to watch these. You might. You might
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: need to watch these in three Daredevil, but I'm not
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: certain to watch Born Again. You could probably just watch
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: Born Again as a standalone. Again.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: We watched Echo.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: I was disappointed in Echo. I was really looking forward
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: to it, and then I was very disappointed.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: At it and some of the things I'm like, I
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: haven't watched. But then I was like, wait, no, I
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: don't think that's come out yet, because it was like
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: I haven't watched iron Heart, Like, no way, I don't
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 2: think iron Heart's out.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: Is fantastic or whatever it is.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: I haven't watched Blade, but neither is anyone else because
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: it's been taken off the slate and now we don't
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: know if it's ever going to get made.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, odd, we're going to go on to something wholesome,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: because every once in a while you just need new
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: dinosaur content, new happy dinosaur content.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: If you if by happy you mean occasionally these are
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: dinosaurs that are eating each other or getting eaten. Shut up?
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: Like that was what? Like that was like sixty percent
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: of the trailer you set me.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true. It's not happy, but just like new.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: Like so BBC is coming out with a new series
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: called Walking with the Dinosaur, Walking with Dinosaurs. They're like
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: walk with Dinosaurs like you never have before. Honestly, it
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: doesn't feel that like new to me, unless they're just
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: incorporating new information we have learned about dinosaurs since the
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: last Dinosaurs like educational series came out, which is entirely possible.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: We're always learning cool new stuff about fossils. But it looks,
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: you know, like dinosaurs are a geeky thing. It's like
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: the earliest geeky thing I can remember for many many
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: kids is like liking dinosaurs.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm not disagreeing, so you don't need to
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 2: you don't need to pick a fight with me. Now,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: I think like I liked I liked how some of
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: the dinosaurs had feathers, right, because that's something we have learned.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: Like when I was a kid, you never saw the
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: dinosaurs depicted in any of the specials or whatever. Like
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: I think about the stuff I would watch when I
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: was in school or you know, on my own when
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: I was a kid, I don't remember ever seeing dinosaurs
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: with feathers. Even when in high school when I started
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: to learn that many of them had feathers or feather
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 2: like follicles, I never saw them depicted that way. I mean,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: they certainly weren't depicted that way in the documentary Jurassic Park,
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: so so, but yeah, this looks like it's a new
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: take on something that we're all kind of familiar with.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: Because if you were ever one of those kids who
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: got into dinosaurs, I know you must have watched some
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: specials where you know, animated or even computer generated dinosaurs
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: are are running around and doing stuff. I will say
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 2: that the CGI in this runs a spectrum. There's some
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: shots that looked really good and a lot of shots
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 2: that didn't look as good.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I'm like, this doesn't feel new to me.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: This feels like early two thousands dinosaur from Disney maybe
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: in the late nineties, late nineties, but you know, dinosaur
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: content is for a lot of people. But then again,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: I also consider dinosaur content like The Land Before Time
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: and Dinotopia and what was it Land of the Lost.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I loved Land of the Lost seventies.
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: I want to find out one day that dinosaurs were
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: more intelligent, like the slee stas what they were called, yes,
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: and that they just they dressed themselves up in like
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: feather boas and feather coats, and that's why dinosaurs have feathers.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: Now you're more like into dinosaurs the Jim Henson series.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: Listen, if we find out one day that dinosaurs were
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: more intelligent than we believed and they did that, I
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: would be delighted.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: Well, it does look like it's it's like if you
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: were one of those kids, or if you have a
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 2: kid who's into done or is it totally looks like
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: it's gonna scratch that itch? Something that is definitely not
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 2: for kids, Absolutely, no, not for kids. Is the series
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: Love Death and Robots. They're going into season four. We
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 2: got a trailer for season four and yeah, within like
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: the first fifteen seconds of that trailer, you're gonna be like, WHOA, Okay,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: do not show this to kids.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: I was surprised, So my friend shared this trailer with me.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be real honest, I didn't watch the first season.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: I didn't know there were two other seasons after it,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 1: so that that we're on a fourth was a surprise
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 1: to me. And going into that trailer that adult content
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: was definitely a surprise to me.
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's it looks well done. Like again,
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: the animation looks great. The it's hard to get a
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: feel for why the plots are necessarily but they all
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: look like they're like each each story is told in
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: a different style of animation, a different approach to animation.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: Star Wars did a different animation like I don't remember
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: what they were calling that series, but where they had
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: the different animation styles for each anthology episode.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but it looks good like it looks it looks
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: like it's it's super slick. It looks like it's really
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: well done. But I don't have any sense on how
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: well written the individual episodes are. And usually in an
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 2: anthology you typically have at least like a couple will
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: rise above the rest, and then they'll typically be a
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 2: bunch in the middle of the pack, and if you're
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: really lucky, there may be just you know, a clunker.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: Well, let me tell you. Here's what my friends have
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: said about it. Loved volume one. Need to get caught
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: up on the other. Yes, Well, if you haven't caught up,
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: you haven't seen the Christmas episode, should probably rewatch. It's
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: quite a treat. It's a little like eatingssido ssheto peppers.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: You never know when an episode will melt your face off.
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah that sounds right, yep, So that's fun speaking of
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: things you don't know if we're going to melt your
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: face off. We got Apple did this too, but we're
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: not going to talk about the Apple one because we've
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: talked about enough of their content that's coming out. HBO
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: did a sneak peak trailer.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, where they just showed real quick snippets of various
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 2: things that are coming out over the next few months.
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 2: So that included there was like a documentary about Pee
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: Wee Herman, which I very much look forward to watching. Yes,
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: they had clips of Last of Us, They had a
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: clip of the was It Welcome to Dairy, the prequel
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: to the It story, and they also had a very
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: quick glimpse at season two of Peacemaker. I'm liking Peacekeeper.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: If you're Aeriel, I listen.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: Farscape had such a profound effect on my geekato.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: I would get it wrong every time if I didn't
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 2: have it written in front.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: Of me, So I don't like reading no.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying no. I'm just what I'm saying, though,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: Ariel is that we both know my habit of saying
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: the wrong name. Like if there are two names that
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: are similar, I'm going to say the wrong one whenever,
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: and not on purpose. I wish I could say I
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 2: was doing it just to troll people, but no, that's
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 2: just how my brain works.
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: So here's the thing. I was mad because when it
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: came across my YouTube feed because I saw it before
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: I saw you put it here, They're like, HBO, first
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: peek at Peacemaker, and I'm like, this is not that
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: you butt heads. But it didn't make the Welcome to
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: Dairy look pretty good. I didn't know about the pee
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: wee Herman thing. I'm looking forward to that, but pee
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: wee Herman reminded me of Bronson Pinchot and I just
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 1: needed to say I also finished the Residence.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, which I quite enjoyed. I'm glad you did. Yeah,
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: I personally, Well, i'll tell you after the show. Yeah. Yeah,
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: there's stuff I don't need to say on the show.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: There's a couple of episodes that I was like, this
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: is a little slow, and then the last episode was
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: a lot of exposition. It was almost entirely Who's Aduba's
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: monologue soliloquy. But but there were some episodes in there
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 1: that I truly truly enjoyed. Anyhow, Yeah, I HBO is
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: making some content that I might actually watch.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I gave up on The Residents. I think I
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: watched only the first episode all the way through, and
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: then most of the second episode, and then I noped out,
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: not because like, it wasn't that the content was particularly
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: I don't know, it wasn't clicking for me. I think
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: it felt like it was built to have lots and
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: lots of padding in it, and I was I didn't
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: have the patience for it. I was already at the
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: same time, though, I was also anticipating the man Meat
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 2: Mountain confrontation that I've been waiting for throughout all of
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 2: season three of Reacher, and when it finally happened, I
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 2: was incredibly disappointed.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: If you get if you got inspired to try Paradise,
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: I was talking about earlier that we started. Man, my
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: voice is going, I'm glad we've only got one story
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: after this. It's not that I don't love talking to
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: you or friends, but I'm gonna have to like vocal
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: rest for a bit. Yeah, but uh, it is slow.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: It's pretty slow, That's what I'll say. It's a slower
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: pacear type pace.
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I might be able to like if
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: it's if I find it entertaining enough. Like the thing
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: about The Residents was I like so many of the
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: actors who are in that, and I find them very
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 2: entertaining to watch. I just found the writing like it
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 2: started to feel a bit self indulgent in parts, and
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 2: it felt like things were padded out so that it
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: would last. Because I was like, how can this mystery
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: last for eight episodes? Because I would figure by episode three.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: The way that they've created the detective character in the Residents,
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: she seems so incredibly capable and so much more intelligent
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 2: than anyone else around hers, it stretches credulity to think
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 2: that it would take her eight episodes to figure out
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 2: the mystery.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, but regardless, a bunch of good stuff to
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: look forward to on HBO. I do like some of
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: their content. A lot of their content honestly just goes.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: We've talked about it with like White Lotus and I
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: haven't watched Righteous Gemstones, but Jonathan's brought it up a
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: little bit. Sometimes they put in adult content that feels
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: like it's there just so they can say they put
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: it in.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of stuff in there that's kind
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: of in there for shock value, where maybe it's meant
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: to stand in either as u you know, to try
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: and serve some purpose in the story, But it almost
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 2: always feels to me like it's someone taking a shortcut. So,
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 2: for example, the Righteous Gemstones, the nudity on that more
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 2: often than not it's male nudity, and more often than not,
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: it feels like it's being done as a punchline. And
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: but then like on Game of Thrones, it was often
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: done as a shortcut to talk about, you know, someone
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: in power exerting that power over someone who is power less.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: Right like, and after a while, I'm just like, can
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 2: you tell the story some other way than just the
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: cheap way of Let let's take this actor and strip
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 2: off all their clothing and make them stand naked in
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 2: front of the camera.
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, then some of the nudity in and honestly some
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 1: of the dialogue in White, a lot of it is
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: gratuitous and definitely more adult than like more adult and
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: more in depth than it needs to be to get
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: the point across.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't object to and to be clear,
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: I don't object to nudity being used in storytelling. It's
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 2: just that, like it needs to be used in a
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: way where it doesn't feel like it's a cheap shortcut
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 2: to me. And that's the problem is that a lot
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: of HBO shows, I get the feeling that's the cheap
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 2: shortcut approach. Like if you ask the question of did
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: that actually add anything to the scene, you know, was
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: it really necessary apart from giving like a shocking thrill
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: to the audience, because otherwise that just feels gross to me.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm I'm old, So that's part of it.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, well, you say that, but I think I
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 1: think I don't remember if I read this or I
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: saw it on after midnight that like it's either gen
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: Z or Jen Alpha is like we they're looking for
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: something more meaningful, so they're not as into the gratuitous
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: nudity in sex, and they all like they want more meaningful. Really,
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: I mean everybody wants more meaningful relationships, so that's kind
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: of funny. But yeah, like it's not just an old thing.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: Some of the younger generations are also like, yeah, we've
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: had enough of this, which is kind of cool because again,
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: I like storytelling. I was watching White Lotus and there
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: was an there was like a scene where two actors
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 1: and I enjoy their story. We're talking about stuff and
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: having a moment, and then they started to have sex
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: and I looked away to say something to my husband,
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: and then I was like, well, now if I look back,
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: I'm just watching people make out naked and there's no
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: more story happening. It's just then making out naked. So
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: I'll wait for the scene to pass. It's not that
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: like I'm offended by it, but I at that point
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: it felt varyeuristic to go back and look at it,
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 1: and I didn't need that. So that's just me. But
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: we all know that I'm I'm I'm a bit of
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: a prude.
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: Well let me assure you that your prudish tendencies will
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 2: not become an impediment to your ability to enjoy all
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 2: of what Epic Universe has to offer. A universal's Epic Universe.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 2: They held their media preview event where tons of like
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: YouTube influencers, in particular YouTube TikTok that kind of stuff,
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: got to attend a special pre opening because they don't
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: open this park until like May twenty second, I think,
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: so we're still a month and a half out from
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 2: this park being opened. But they did allow influencers to
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: come in and most of the time most of them
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 2: were like with vip tours who were taking them to
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: specific spots at specific times in order to kind of
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: maintain a good flow of traffic. And I've watched i
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 2: think four of them, four different videos from four different creators,
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: including It's Mammoth Club or something like that, It's it's
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: a woman, it's it's a husband wife team, but it
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: was just the wife who was going and she was
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: so overwhelmed, like it it's like one of those things
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: where a kid is so overwhelmed with something that they
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: have no method of expressing themselves other than to just
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: start to cry because and it's not that they're sad,
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: they just it's the emotion's too big, and I identify
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: with that because I will cry at the drop of
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 2: a hat, and so like I was crying because she
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: was crying, and I was like, I'm so happy, she's
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: so excited, and like she just over and over, like
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 2: when she went into the Isle of Burke. Well, so,
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: if you're not familiar, Epic Universe's first new major theme
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: park in the United States in like twenty five years. Yes,
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: and it's it's got since one.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: That's not that's since it's twenty sorry, since twenty two
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: thousand and one.
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: Okay, I was gonna say twenty twenty one.
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: That was that's like, I think the one that they're
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 1: talking about is the most recent one since before that
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: was disney Landed California Adventures. They're not counting like Galaxy's
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: Edge or Avengers Campus. They're not talking.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: About are those are lands that open within a park.
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 2: This is the first all new parks. So it's got
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: the Celestial Park, which is kind of the Hub World,
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: Isle of Burke, which is How to Train Your Dragon,
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: Harry Potter and the Ministry of Magic on is another one,
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: the Super Nintendo World, and then the the Dark Universe
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: or Classic Universal Horror Monsters Land.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: I think I'm going to have some controversial opinions about
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: these videos though.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: So they didn't you didn't you weren't excited when you
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: watch them.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: I am excited because I think it would be a
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: fun experience. I feel like the videos maybe don't because
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: it's a lot of like you know, influencers. Their videos
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: don't necessarily capture the full magnitude, I will say, and
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: I hate to say this exception of that, the Magic
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: of Ministry ride at the Harry Potter Land, which I
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: don't really want to go to, especially now, that looked
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 1: insane and the the Q is crazy. Q is crazy,
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 1: and the animatronics you see walking around that part of
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 1: the park look very very real to me, like their
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: movements are very real. Some of the animatronics at the
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: other parks, including How to Train Your Dragon in Dark Universe,
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: didn't look as believable to me, and I think again,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: it's because of the video that I'm watching it through.
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think the toothless animatronic figure in
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 2: the Isle of Berg looked really impressive to me, and
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: the little baby toothless one, which I'm guessing is like
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 2: a Boston Dynamics. That's dog robot that's made like.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: The I've also looked a little fake on that one.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: To me, again, I'm being super nitpicky because I'm just
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: sitting here watching videos if I were there.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: Well, it's also it's also translating a cartoon character into
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 2: a non cartoon setting, which is always going to have
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: some issues. The questions that I came away with were,
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: so these are influencers, it's a media day. It's still
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 2: like a month and a half out until they open,
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 2: but this is universal putting on their best show so
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 2: that it looks great for all the influencers who are
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 2: sharing their videos. That included lots of interactions with strolling performers.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: You know, they had musicians, they had characters, so there
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 2: were a lot of character interactions in those videos. Isla Burick,
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 2: Ministry of Magic and Dark Universe all had didn't see
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: any for Super Nintendo, but the other three I definitely
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: saw lots of actors dressed up in you know, appro
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: re attire, depending upon what part of the park they
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 2: were in, playing these roles. And my question is is
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: that what is that going to happen on an actual
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: day at the park, Like, if you go in, can
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: you expect to encounter people strolling around in character? Is
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: the invisible man going to be insulting you? Is igor
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: are going to be like casually picking up body parts
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: in the graveyard? Are you going to have a conversation
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: with a Viking an isle of Burke or is that
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: something that they did specifically for the media day that
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: they might not be doing on a day to day basis.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 2: I don't have the answer to that. My hope is
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: that what we saw is a good representation of what
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: would actually happen on a park day. But it's impossible
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: to say because again it's a month and a half away,
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: and you know, this was almost like an audition for
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: Epic Universe, So I.
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 1: Suspect it will be at least at first. I know that,
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: like if you look at like Galaxy's Edge or something
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: like that, there are definitely things that they had early
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: on that have since phased out, but at least at
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 1: the inception of the park, and hopefully they're bringing some
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: of them back. I think the pandemic had a lot
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: to do with a lot of phasing out of street
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: content at Disney World. I think they will keep it,
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 1: because that's part of what makes that park so immersive. Right.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: We talk about this as a fault at the Renaissance
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: Festival that we've left, that like getting rid of those
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: street performers, even if you're not a person who wants
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 1: to like directly interact with them, not having them there
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: takes the immersion out and puts you just back in
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: a theme park with a couple of rides again. So
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: my hope is that I will say, like, it looked
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 1: like they were walking around without handlers. And I haven't
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: been to Universal Studios Islands of Adventure in a very
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: long time since they've added the Harry Potter stuff. I
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: know in videos I've seen of those parks, like the
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: Death Eaters walk around. I don't know if they have
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: handlers or if they're just free roaming like a normal
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 1: street character. But if they have handlers, they were really
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: good at hiding them from the videos.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the only characters I ever saw at
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 2: Universal were the bo boton and I can't remember what
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 2: the Dormstrong is that the name of the ones that
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 2: are like the big Russian dudes or whatever. Anyway, it
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 2: was the characters from the Goblet of Fire from the
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 2: other two schools in Goblet of Fire, who compete with Hogwarts.
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 2: They have shows where the Bobaton would come out with
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: like little you know, do a little dance, and then
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: the derm Strong would come out and they would do
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: their manly dance. And they would also have like the
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 2: toad Chorus, where the Hogwarts students have the toads on
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: pillows and they're actually little puppets, but the toads are singing.
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 2: I've seen those sort of things, but I've never seen
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 2: just like freely walking around. But then I didn't go
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 2: a ton of times. I've been a couple of times.
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: I know, I've seen pictures with people just seeing the
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: death theaters they come out at like certain times, but
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: just walking around. I know. The first time I went
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: to Islands of Adventure, I went to the Jurassic Park area.
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: I saw a John Hammond walk past, but it was
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 1: like from one character entrance to a character exit across
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: the park. It was so like low key it blew
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: my mind. It's like, this is just John Hammond walking around.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: I just saw the back of him, and he wasn't
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: doing anything, he wasn't being big, he was just and
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: I was like what what, Oh my god, I'm in
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: Jurassic Park. But I know that, like they will have
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: street characters out like Beetlejuice and something and stuff like that.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: But I know, like a lot of times if you
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 1: see the Bride of Frankenstein or Frankenstein, even at Universal
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: Studios proper, they're usually at a photo op with like
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: a handler.
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And the video I saw it looked like for Franken,
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 2: Science Monster and Bride that they were, they were in
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: an area for like a meet and greet photo op,
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 2: as was the Invisible Man. Igor looked like he was
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 2: more free roaming and then like the in the Ministry
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 2: of Magic section. And I agree with you, Ariel. I
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 2: also don't part of me wants to see it simply
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 2: because of the work that went in it into it
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 2: from yeah, from a design perspective, that kind of thing,
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 2: But I like you also feel very complicated about that
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 2: whole thing. Anyway, the actors who work there, I mean,
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 2: I don't hold anything against them. They're doing a job.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 2: But you know, I don't know, I didn't see any
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 2: handlers for them, but who knows. Like they're face characters,
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 2: so they've got a little bit more awareness than someone
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 2: who's like in a full.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: Face characters, and there may be not a character that
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: everybody be like, oh my god, it's this person I write.
• 1:37:59
  Speaker 2: Ye, they're not playing like Harry Potter or whatever. They're playing,
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 2: you know, random wizard character. So but yeah, these videos
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 2: are great, Like there's a ton of them you can see.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 2: I even saw one that was a woman who was
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: going around trying all the food items she could try.
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: The garlic steak pretzel. I want to try.
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 2: That was one of the ones that Becca really wants
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 2: to try too. I want to try the chicken sandwich
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 2: over and Dark Moore that's on a black bun.
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that looks good.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to try that. There's stuff over in
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: the Super Nintendo World like that cafe I want to try. Man,
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: I wish they had a a like a Beyond Meat
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 2: or Impossible Burger version of the Giant meat ball that
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 2: you can get there.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. I am a little disappointed that it's
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 1: the I don't remember the name. It's not the Cloak
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: and Dagger, but at the name of the place where
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: you can get like the black bun stuff. There's two
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: restaurants at Dark Universe. One steakhouse in one's like a tavern.
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 2: It's the steakhouse. It's the steakhouse that has the chicken
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: sandwich thing.
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, in theory, they are vampires at the steakhouse.
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't get to see any of that.
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 1: I only saw the one with the monster hunters. They
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: didn't look like Samon Dean Winchester, and I'm very sad
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 1: about now.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 2: They they look kind of like the traveling Merchant in
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 2: Resident Evil four. I was waiting for the boy you buoying?
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: What are you selling?
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: Boy you're selling? Yeah, that's the burning Blade because it's
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 2: a windmill that occasionally catches fire. I will say, like
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 2: I thought from the videos, like the design of the park,
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 2: where you can't really see these lands until you walk
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 2: through the portal and then you can. Like they're so
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: well designed, you would think it'd be very hard to
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 2: hide that stuff, but they use very clever tricks, especially
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 2: when you consider, like in the Harry Potter section, some
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 2: of those buildings are like seven stories tall, So they're
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 2: really good about using the landscape in such a way
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 2: as to mask the lands until you walk through the portal,
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 2: so that you have that kind of aha reveal moment
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 2: and the one thing I wish I had seen because
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: they talked about it. But the media day they closed
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: at seven pm. Like open at ten am, it closed
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: at seven pm, so it wasn't a full day. But again,
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 2: this is again a month and a half before they opened,
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 2: and they said they had not fully rehearsed like nighttime operations.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 2: So one of the things that I really wanted to
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 2: see that I haven't seen yet is on one end
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: of the park closest to the Helios Hotel, which is
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: like on the far end of the park, they have
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: a statue of Apollo, and on the closer to where
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: the entrance is for if you know, if you were
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 2: to park in the parking lot and walk up go
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: through the Kronos, they have a statue of Luna, the
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: goddess of the Moon, and apparently every day as the
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 2: lights are getting dim enough for or the days getting
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 2: dim enough for the lights come on, Apollo fires his
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 2: fiery arrow and in a light show, the light goes
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 2: all the way across to Luna and then the park
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: lights up.
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: That's so cool.
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I really want to see it, but obviously, like
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: they were closing at seven that day, so no one
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 2: has any footage of it, but that sounds that sounds
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 2: like a really cool effect to me. It's one of
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: those things where it's like, if I were in line,
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 2: I'd be like, oh, we're gonna miss the arrow.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah. The have you seen video? Like, have you seen
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: any video of the Stardust Racers.
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: The roller coasters?
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah? That lights up at night. That's so beautiful, isn't it.
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the tracks are dark, but the coasters light up. Yeah.
• 1:41:58
  Speaker 2: That's a dueling coaster where you have side by side
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 2: coasters that intertwine with one another, and apparently that effect
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: is really impressive. That's a ride I will never get
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: becca on. So if we're ever at Epic Universe and
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 2: you don't mind riding it, I would love to ride
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: with you, because otherwise I have to go by myself
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 2: if I.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: Can ever afford to go to Epic Universe, because if
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: I go, I'll probably want to visit the other parks
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: as well. There are some like the Men in Black
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: ride I love. I just want to go back to that.
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: But if I go, if I ever can afford to go,
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 1: and I'm there with you, I will ride that ride
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: with you as many times as you.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 2: Want awesome, Yeah, because I know that Becca won't get
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 2: on it.
• 1:42:39
  Speaker 1: So I like, there are certain thrill rides I won't do.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: But for the most part, I really enjoy the thrill rides.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah I can. I feel like Epic Universe is one
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 2: of those where I would The thing I would most
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: need to be careful about is if I were to
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 2: ride the Ministry of Magic ride just to see what
• 1:42:59
  Speaker 2: the heck is, It's like I would need to make
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 2: sure that my next ride was not the Dark Universe ride,
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 2: because if I do two of those style rides back
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 2: to back, then that gets my motion sickness going.
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: Or the Curse of the Werewolf roller coaster, because that
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 1: thing looks like it'll.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 2: Make you that one. I might be able to handle
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 2: that one a little better. I mean, it does spin,
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 2: so like the the way that coaster is designed is
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 2: each car has two forward facing and two backward facing seats,
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 2: and each car is on its own little axle and
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: can spin around. But the amount of spinning that happens
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 2: is dependent upon the waiting of the car. So if
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 2: everybody weighs pretty much the same, you don't really spin
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: that much. But let's say like a two little kids
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 2: get on one side and then my big fat butt
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: is on the other side. We're going to be going
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 2: for a ride. Let me tell you.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: The people I saw riding it, we're spinning pretty effectively.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 2: Uh but anyway, Yeah, I think I think it looks
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: like a very impressive park. The thing that excites me
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 2: the most is I think, undoubtedly Disney has to be
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 2: looking at the reception of Epic Universe so far and
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 2: thinking we've got to knock it out of the park
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 2: when we do the expansion to the Magic Kingdom that's
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 2: coming out, So Villain's Land is going to have to
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 2: be like phenomenal.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: Well, all the expansions because they're also expanding Animal Kingdom
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: and they're all starting they're also adding some stuff to
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 1: to Hollywood Studios.
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: So and taking the Muppets out.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I'm not happy about that, but they're moving
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: over to They're moving over to rock and roller Coaster,
• 1:44:45
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• 1:44:47
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• 1:44:50
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• 1:44:54
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• 1:44:56
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  Speaker 2: The large Nerdron Collider was created by Ariel Casting and produced, edited, published, deleted, undeleted,
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  Speaker 2: published again. Curse That by Jonathan Strickland. Music by Kevin
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  Speaker 2: McLeod of Incomptech dot Com one