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AEW Dynamite Preview | Is Team AEW down a member? · Ignition - an AEW Podcast

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It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for ignition with the
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aw Fanhub podcast. Team got a lead into Double or Nothing with tomorrow night's
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Dynamite. Boy. It's just like everybody just go out there. It's like
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it's just a pack card. So we're gonna talk about Dynamite, but first
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we're going to talk about something else. But before we get into that,
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let me introduce myself. This is Kelson and this is Alex and yeah,
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tonight, we don't have a lot of news to talk about since we last
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had a last podcast. One thing worth mentioning is we had a Eddie Kingston
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lost his last of his three titles, last of the Triple Crown to Gabe
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Kid the New Japan Show on Saturday. I haven't seen the match. I
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know after the match happened. We had a beat down by the Young Bucks.
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They showed up on the New Japan Show Young Bucks and Jack Perry.
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They attacked Eddie Kingston after the match. And now we've found out that he
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has an actual leg injury which is going to keep him out of Double or
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Nothing. Maybe they haven't confirmed that yet, Okay, it's not confirmed.
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They got their finger aw has their fingers crossed, that'll be able to perform
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it double or nothing. That's the last I read. Okay, interesting because
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that's coming up in the next you know, under two weeks now, yeah,
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two weeks. Yeah. So if it's a legitimate injury, you would
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think, I mean, if I just sprained my ankle, maybe I'd be
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okay to come back in two weeks. But if it was a real,
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real injury, then I can only assume he wouldn't be good to go.
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Well, yeah, probably. Towards the end of the match, Gabe kid
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Uh did a souplex through a table on Eddie Kingston from the ring apron onto
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the floor, which of course the table was on the floor opened up and
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he went and when Eddie Kingston went through it, he kind of like immediately
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clutched at his leg as soon as as soon as the spot was over.
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You could see that spot on Twitter X. You can, you know,
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look up Eddie Kingston injury and then you'll see the video of it. It's
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not a nasty thing. It's more one of those things. It's not like
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it broke or anything like that, or at least not noticeably, but you
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could tell that, I mean, it was a pretty pretty hard hit,
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let me put it that way, and that table disintegrated and but yeah,
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it didn't look real good. Yeah, in Eddie's defense, he's had like
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a pretty intense run over the last you know, year, since the Continental
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Classic, and he's been in New Japan Wrestling as well at all their big
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American shows. So he and he participated in the g One in Japan.
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So he's had a pretty intense schedule and he's not a spring chicken by any
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means. So, you know, hopefully a lot of the majority of Eddie
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Kingston's career has occurred before joining a w he did. It was kind of
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like his last opportunity to really make something of himself, but beyond the indie
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wrestling. So and then he came over here. You wouldn't do much over
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there. Where Where did you say he was before? I thought he was
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with A Oh maybe yeah, we traveled. Yeah, as you just said,
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Alex, I think he was well traveled. So, Alex, so
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what's this hypothetic? Say, let's pretend that Eddie Kingston isn't going to be
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able to perform at a double or nothing. Do you have anybody in your
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mind that maybe able to join, you know whatever. Yeah, you're gonna
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call him Team a W. I guess he may. I guess that's what
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they are. Yeah, it's a little weird because it doesn't feel like they
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completely represent ae W, especially like FTR. But the first guy I would
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pick, and I kind of had him penciled in before Eddie Kingston even got
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announced and before Brian Danielson were announced, was Daniel Garcia because he's had a
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lot of relationship with FTR before this. He's a young guy with a lot
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of momentum behind him, so I just thought he would have been an interesting
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pick. Really, I never he never even crossed my mind. Alex mm
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hmm. Yeah, so that's the that's my guy. I'm wondering who else
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some of you guys have audio Claudio, Yeah, because Claudia protect his little
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buddy, the he's so worried about. But uh, yeah, Daniel would
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be a great, great addition. But I don't know this. This is
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one of those This is one of those matches where it always seems like somebody
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gets hurt. So who can they afford to lose for a while is the
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question you might want to ask, because m M and they could put Eddie
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in there and just let him be in for what five minutes to get hurting
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and that playoffs where the injury happened here instead of over there. But who
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knows, you know, my son, you know what you just said is
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like, okay, so if Eddie Kingston is in this match and they have
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to protect him, he could just like get hit lay on the table for
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forty five minutes. Now, I don't really want to see that. I
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want to see somebody actually participate, you know, yeah, oh yeah,
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yeah, that's I mean. My my pick is the Falling Angels Christopher Daniels.
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He has history with him because he took him and Kat him and kaz
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uh the Bucks took them out, and I think you know, and also
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the next also tomorrow they have a match with him or yeah, so you
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know at this funny history there. He he represents aw not only as a
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wrestler but as a staff and I'm sure he's close to Tony. So that's
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my choice, but but that'll happen. He's older. But I would love
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to see just the best moon salt ever off of a poker ship or something
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like that, just for old time sake. Well, okay, do you
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think that they tomorrow night on Dynamite. Yeah, do you think there's a
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chance that they're gonna just come out and say Eddie Kingston will participate or Eddie
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Kingston will not participate? I thouble or not thinking? Or do you think
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they're gonna probably hold that off for maybe collision or even next week before they
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make that decision, you know what I'm saying. I mean, yeah,
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see, I don't understand the reasoning for Eddie Kingston to be really even in
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the match. In my opinion, I don't think he needs to be in
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there, so it's kind of the price in the first place, but I
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think they should if they're gonna make them move, they need to rip the
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band added off and said hey he was hurt. You know, you could
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blame it on the young the young bucks and not and just say you heard
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them. That's there's revenge for getting involved because in the backstage interview and just
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use it that way. But but they're going to do it. They didn't
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do it soon to keep on building the story. Yeah, well, you
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know what, that is probably the biggest Eddie Kingston here so net I mean,
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hypothetically speaking, let's just say that Anythingston is not going to be able
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to participate at double or nothing, Indianna or an arena. Before I give
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my pick, i'd like to hear yours. M M. I was listening
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to what everyone else was saying, and I was really thinking about it,
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and I think the the obvious choices would be Hangman or Aboushie, but I
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don't think it's gonna be one of them. I think it's I'm more towards
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what I believe. Alex was saying that it's more than likely Daniel Garcia and
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that, yeah, I think so after after considering it, I can see
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him being in the in that fight, So I think maybe him, and
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it'll be a nice surprise. Well, I have a very interesting pick for
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you, because, as one of the guys said earlier, you don't want
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to make a risk. I'm gonna go with the non roster wrestler. You
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know, a special guest wrestler, somebody that's uh, somebody that is not
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on the roster of course, and that person is the ultimate Warrior. Oh
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yeah, the Ultimate Warrior. Yeah, I always dead, I'd always dead.
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But yeah, it's still a better wrestler than Eddie Kingston. Oh so
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much for last week. I mean, man, that was just like,
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wow, you never know with me, you never know po I mean,
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look as I posted on the a w fan ub sub at it when I
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posted about Eddie Kingston, you know, and being in this is actually serious.
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Whether you like a wrestler, you don't like a wrestler, You hate
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to see a wrestler get injured, oh yeah, you know you hate to
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see it. Honestly and sincerely, I hope that Eddie is not hurt to
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where he can't perform. But if he can't perform, I hope he has
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a speedy recovery. That's all I can say about that. And that's sincere.
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That really is sincere. I just figured out who they need to put
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in there. Oh yeah, who Britt Baker again, a better repectico you
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know, definitely not could be an interesting choice. You can decorate the ring
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with his uh streamers and start the party, right. Yeah, It's gonna
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be interesting to see who they bring in, you know, because I have
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a feeling, unfortunately, and I do mean this sincerely, I'm a feeling
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unfortunately. Even if Eddie Kingston said eighty percent, they're not going to let
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him go in there. I really don't think they are, because why risk
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you know, again, as I said last week, when he goes out
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there, the crowd is into it. He's definitely a crowd favorite, so
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why risk him going in there and going from eighty to forty. It just
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doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Yeah, Like, another realistic option
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I could see is Eddie Kingston coming out and announcing Mark Brisco taking his spot,
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because they have that buddy buddy relationship and he's kind of reminds me of
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Eddie Kingston just in terms of like that bb face guy that's pro ew Eddie
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Kingston does have better teeth mm hm, you know, and I guess Mark
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brisk goes arguably a better wrestler arguably depends on well. The one thing about
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this match though, this isn't a wrestling match. This is a brawl.
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So in Brisco can brawl, and I love it. He's a great brawler
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too. That's the only thing that's probably that I had took exception with your
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pick Alex of Daniel Garcia. In a regular resting match, Daniel Garcia makes
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perfect sense. But in a brawl, maybe not so much. Yeah,
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but in a goofy brawl, there's lots of opportunities for him to bust out
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a dance in some weird situation. So did you see by the way dot
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the before we go on to our next segment where we're going to preview Dynamite,
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did you see that last week somebody actually tried to attack him when he
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was doing his dance outside the ring. That's unbelievable. I don't know if
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he was trying to attack him. He might have just entering been going into
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the ring to also be dance. The funny part is, I'm not sure
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which one it was, but if you go back and listen to it from
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the broadcast, somebody in the was it Nigel. Somebody said something and you
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saw just like a bunch of people jump in the ring and I'm like,
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like, that was kind of odd. That doesn't seem to fit what they're
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doing. But then you find out later it's some idiot from the crowd.
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Yeah, it was funny because he jumped into the rig and just absolutely sprawled
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out his face and somebody on the aw fantom sure it said he had all
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the grace at athleticism of a sea lion. I thought that was just a
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perfect description of it. Then they were are crazy. We're gonna ask the
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same thing. I'm gonna ask, what is it with the Canadian fans?
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Man? They've been they've been like you never hear of any issues really up
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until the last two shows, and then you had the dudes ripping on sky
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Blue and then this dude jumping into the thing and this, you know,
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what the hell? That don't make any sense? Yeah? My only thought
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is that both those cities have teams in the NHL playoffs right now. That's
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not altogether common, and they're probably just really drunk because of it. That
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is a really pathetic excuse. It's it's not slightly the real reason that's that's
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you know, I just I just that is actually a really good excuse because
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but you know, it's just like what is going on in Canada? And
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I don't know what did they put your timprtons? God anyway, Alex,
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let's move on. What do you want to talk about? We're gonna do
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a preview of the Dynamite tomorrow night. What do you want to talk about
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first, Buddy? Uh? Yeah, let's lead with Adam Copeland and Malachi
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Black are gonna have a segment. Obviously, Adam Copeland has challenged Malachi Black
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to a steel cage barbed wire match, which is pretty cool. I don't
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think we've seen that before. Who knows what their rules are? Is it
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an escape the steel cage match or I hope not? Ye as well,
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at least if it is, at least let's you know, explain the rules
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before before ten minutes into the match. Mm hmm, yeah absolutely. But
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yeah, I'm really excited for this. And I really loved the end of
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Collision where you had it was like really subtle. It was Adam Copeland holding
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on to Kyle O'Reilly's hand a little bit too long after congratulating him on his
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victory, and then Kyler Riley's trying to pull away and then you see just
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a little bit of blood dripping from edge his mouth. Yeah, that was
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a good visual. So Alex, let me ask you a question though.
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So let's say we do have Malachi Black against Adam Copland in the steele kh
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barb wire batch and whatever rules that there are win I mean, right now,
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just put you on the spot. Who wins that? I mean,
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who would you like to see win that? You know, would you like
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to see Copeland retain or Malachai win. Uh yeah, Adam, Malachi Black
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has to win that match. To me, he's just he's not that he's
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been floundering, but I feel like he's been in AW for a long time
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now. He's held the trios titles, but he hasn't really been the threat
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that he early on in his AW career, and I just I just feel
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like, give him something, make him a big part of the show.
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And he's a great wrestler, and I hope he puts on a great match
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here and it gives him something to do, carrying that title and maybe having
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like open house matches for for a few months. But yeah, it would
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just be a lot more important for him and Adam Copeland can move on to
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other things afterwards. Like White Christian, I gotta agree with you, because
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look, would you look at the House of Black over the last six months,
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Julia Hart's been by far the biggest star in the House Black and she's
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out now. They need somebody to make the House of Black relevant, you
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know, and it's Malachi Black. That's that's my opinion too. Who else
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has an opinion on that? You know? Who should win this match?
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I think it should be Maliica he definitely do he it. It will give
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them more. I mean, it's not like they haven't done anything. They
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were the Trios tagged, they were the Trios Champions for a little while,
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and they've gotten involved in different aspects of the show. But it's definitely time
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from Malacca to have a title. He deserves one. He put He's one
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of those guys that comes out, puts on a hell of a show every
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time he comes into the ring, whether he's winning or losing, and I
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think he deserves to get a win and I think it would be amazing to
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see him do that. I agree he deserves it his time. What about
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you, MK, Do you have any opinions on this one? Thank thank
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you lose it? So Malicha Black, Malachoi Black deserves to, uh basically
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had a title. He didn't have them any single so why not? Right?
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Well, you know, just I'm just gonna go ahead and move on
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because there's a lot of stuff going on on this show tomorrow night. In
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Dynamite. Another segment that they've announced is that Roderick Strong and Will Ausprey are
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going to have a face to face. Now, in my opinion, this
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match should be called off because it's a no contest. I mean, I
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just have zero interest really in Roderick Strong as I don't even know what what
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is it? The International Champion? Yeah yeah, I mean if Roderick Strong
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wins this match, why would you why would you ruin Will Osprey for Roderick
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Strong. That's just my opinion, that's it. I mean, Will Osprey's
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the future of aw Roderick Strong is not. No, he needs to lose.
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Roderick Strong needs to lose. They need to send those guys back to
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r O each on a full time because they bring nothing to the to the
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TV. They bring absolutely nothing to aw TV. Their gimmick is no good.
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Uh. You know, we saw Adam Cole return to walking status,
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but he's doing nothing and without him, they're just three scrubs that have no
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business being on aw TV. You're taking up time for from guys like everybody
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else. Well, sad, let me ask you this had had Adam Cole
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not gotten injured and had been revealed as the devil healthy, do you think
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the other speed a Kingdom would have had a better run than they have and
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be will they be relevant? Okay, so as a group with Adam Cole
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active and wrestling and challenging for the title and everything else. They the group
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would have been more relevant. But I'm sorry, those three just have no
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business. I mean, they're they're they're boring. They have not seen anything
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from the three of them that give them any like, any kind of merit
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as to why they're being on TV. I would rather see Eddie Kingston versus
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anybody instead of them, anybody. Hell, I'd even like to see Baker
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more than them. And you know how I feel about Britt Baker. For
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somebody to don't like Britt Baker, you've brought her up like that's the second
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time already. I know, because I keep hearing rumors she's coming back soon
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and you yeah, well you know. I don't think Roddy's that bad,
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but kay Then and Bennett need to stay down and bring a bonder. I
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don't under I don't understand the purpose. This ole stable has gone down the
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draint since the beginning, even with Copeland, I don't sorry, sorry,
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even with the wrong Adam Uh, even with pol I really I really don't
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think that this seems very good Wardlow, they've made a mockery of Wardlow.
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I think he has potential, but they've done nothing with it. I think
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the best bet was would be for till what would be there, but just
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to cut the whole gimmick and just don't mention them anymore because they they're lost.
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No one cares. I like roder Tron, He's bringing something to the
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table, but the other three in that stable just are our charisma vacuums.
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I don't want to watch them. They maye goofy with their Giraffe and next
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Strong and stuff, but I feel like at the Pet Project and their Adam
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Cole's friends, and that helps a little bit. But you know they weren't.
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You know, Undisputed was great in the other company, but it hasn't
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transferred to overhere. Yeah, and you only they only really have roder X
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Strong continuing over Like Adam Cole's out of the picture. There's Kyle Raley's not
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part of it, Bobby Fish. So yeah, Like I I like Roderick
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Strong. I love him as a wrestler, and like on Collision, I
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thought he was a lot of fun on commentary. I'm sure most people won't
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agree with me, but I enjoyed him. I don't mind him yelling and
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being stupid. I think they missed an opportunity to have him not part of
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the Undisputed Kingdom, and he could have you know, turned baby face when
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it was revealed that Adam Cole was the Devil instead of having him along for
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the ride with that. I think the whole Undisputed Kingdom thing is a disaster.
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It's been a disaster since it was revealed. They could have gone in
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a bunch of different directions than it's and it's really bad and it hasn't helped
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anybody. I agree with Mike Bennett maybe not being great, but I think
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Matt Tavin has a lot of potential. But I don't think that's a great
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tag team and it's not not maybe ae W quality, But I do like
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Roddy, I see potential with Matt Tavian. I think it's gonna be a
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really good match, and I think it's interesting how they're setting up the match
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with the you know, Will Osprey not using the the Haiger Driver ninety one,
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but he's gonna start using the storm Breakers, so there's some cool parts
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to it. I'm excited for the match, but I understand the disdained for
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the Undisputed Kingdom. Not you haven't spoken yet. I mean for you team
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Roderick Stronger. Do you or do you zone out for the Undisputed Kingdom?
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I zone out for all of them. I'm not been a fan of any
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of them. So I'm your favorite? Dare you none of them? I
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don't like any of them? Wow? Who likes everybody doesn't like the Undisputed
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Kingdom? Yeah? I am sitting here beside myself. Well man, well
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uh that's surprising, Alex. What do you want to talk about next?
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Uh? Yeah, let's work our way up the card next week of Hook
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returning. Okay, so I'm just being funny. Well, okay, so
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he's going to fight with who knows what he's actually gonna do. Is he
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gonna have a match against the JOBB or is he just going to confront Chris
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Jericho? Yeah, I don't know. I'm expecting to be pleasantly surprised with
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whatever happens here. Uh h. I'm not like as high on Hook as
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most people. I feel like he has a lot of potential, but I
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don't feel like he's like a guy I love to see on TV. Right
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now. I'm more excited for future Hook than I am for present day Hook.
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But I am excited about this Jericho stuff, so we'll see where it
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goes. Well, you know, I gotta break in here because I'm not
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going to say anything about a Hook specifically, I'm going to say something about
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Hook's graphics. In the past, we've seen just everybody else gets their face
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off here on the aw's official graphics. Hook a few weeks ago, he
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got like just the Hook batsignal thing. Today, if you look at the
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graphic, and I encourage anybody that's listening to this, go look at his
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graphic. That's not even a picture of Hook. It's like a really bad
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watercolor painting of him. It's really horrible. It's like, what is it
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with AW? Just it's not that hard to take a picture of somebody painting,
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you saying. If you zoom in on the graphic, you could clearly
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see that it's not a picture of Hook. It's it's a drawing. Everybody
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else has a picture. Hook is just like a cartoon caricature. It's just
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the weirdest thing I've ever seen. But that's my that's my whole spiel about
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this segment. I honestly, I think they've missed the boat here with Hook
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because they he was great when he didn't talk, came out, did his
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did his thing and left. That was when he was the best. Now
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they get him doing too much talking. He needs to the way he was
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when he first started and build on that some more. That's just my opinion.
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Totally disagree. He has to change something. You cannot stay stagnant and
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just be has his son. You can't. He has to have a good
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feud and I'm not one once younger boy, he has to grow up.
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I mean, I don't I know people to explain me what is the magnetism
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besides Taza's son that Hook has on fans because yes, he's good at the
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judo type of you know, the throw around stuff like that, but he's
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not that great of a wrestler. And I know he's still young. But
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what if you just tell me in what do you guys see that is great
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about Hook? And why is he still loved? First, he doesn't,
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he does not. Hook does not use the fact that he is TAS's son
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at all. He stayed away from that entire time and Taz is not interfered
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in anything or came across as being where it's because he's my son that he's
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doing what he's doing. That's not evident in any way in anything that Hook
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has done. Hook's that way. I think. I think his appeal is
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because he has that new nonsense. He comes out to the ring, he's
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no nonsense. He comes out, he does what he does. Younger fans
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love him, the women think he's cute. It's just that's just what I
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see as it is. And that's why I say, if he continues,
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it seems to me that getting involved with Jericho on his part has been a
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bad thing. I think that's his goal. I mean, you can only
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do so much with a rock. I mean you can throw it, you
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can I mean much you can do. He has to put in the effort
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and he had, and I think I don't know. I mean, would
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he be here if it? I mean, I don't. He just baffles
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men. I'm sorry, I don't. I don't get the pill. I
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never will. But you know, being cute for the girls isn't going to
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get you over. It's going to be the way you wrestle and the way
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you talk. Charisma gets you over. And if he can't talk or you
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know, then I don't I don't see the point in him unless you put
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him with someone who can talk and a manager and then let it be that
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way like Barack Lesnar and Paul Paul Hayman or something like that. You can't
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have him on his own and not talk. Well. Look, you know,
30:19
Sudden, you mentioned that the girls may think that that Hook is you.
30:26
We happen to have a woman here with us tonight. Net. I
30:29
mean, look, I am I am one of those people. You know.
30:33
Look, I've never really looked at Hook. Had said, Well,
30:37
you know, he's a good looking guy, but he's not gorgeous like Squsha.
30:44
What do you think you Thinksha is a foid looking woman? But what
31:00
is your opinion? Hook? Hook? Hook? You people with these one
31:06
syllable names just try to be nuts. Hook is handsome, but he you
31:15
know, he's Okay. I know that my twenty something year old daughter thinks
31:22
that the sun rises and sets on Hook. Okay. Yeah, I think
31:26
he has the appeal of the young ladies who are wrestling fans. Okay,
31:33
but you know, I mean I think he could do more wrestling wise.
31:37
I liked him a lot when he first debuted, and then he's just kind
31:42
of fizzled out. He needs to find something to do. To make him
31:48
more interesting. So you're saying that he probably way I'm understanding. You're saying
31:55
that he needs to grow as a wrestler, you know at Borderer's Repatral.
32:00
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's fine to look good in everything, but
32:04
you gotta you know, I like wrestling too, so you have to get
32:08
out there and be entertaining. You can't be all good looking unless you're like
32:14
Ta Casta, you know, then that's okay. But yeah, yeah,
32:21
like with Hook, now I get a little bit of a reminder of like
32:25
shades of Jack Perry after the Christian feud when he was a good guy,
32:32
just kind of feeling like he's missing something like character wise. Yeah, you
32:40
know, then it's hard. Yeah, maybe he needs to fight someone and
32:49
get suspended and come back. You know, Alex, I know you're gonna
32:55
be jealous because I get to Doubtce the the next segment. And you know,
33:01
we have anarchy and the arena, we have stadium stampedes, we have
33:07
the ocage barbed wire matches, but nothing, and I mean nothing. It's
33:13
more exciting to aw fans and a good old contracts me. And we've got
33:19
we got Willow Nightingale and Mercedes Monet at a contract signing, and I'm just
33:23
gonna come out and say it right now. I do not give a ship.
33:29
Mmm, I'm yeah, I don't. I don't care about the contract
33:34
signing. They're they're good. Why you know, you get out there,
33:42
you sign the contract, then you get into a fight. It's yeah,
33:46
whatever. Maybe they'll switch it up a little bit, maybe Willow will sign
33:51
the contract in our blood. But you know what really gets my goat about
33:57
this, this is weird. Now. Will Stardom got in contact with Tony
34:02
Khan and they said that after Forbidden Door they want to have a match with
34:09
a w in Japan, and Tony Kahan apparently said, hey, let's do
34:15
it now instead of after Forbidden Door. That's what's actually going to happen.
34:20
Will All Nightingale is going to get on a plane and she's going to Japan
34:23
and she's going to have a match against Tamu or tam Nikana Nakano. Now
34:34
here's the thing, this is my problem with this. Ti Kano is a
34:39
much better wrestler with a lot more experience, and just there's no way that
34:51
will All Nightingales should be Nakano, right, Like she's is on the p
35:00
w I Women's two fifty. Tanakana was ranked fifth in the world. Oh
35:08
hell, you know she's that good. You know, she was just a
35:15
just a couple spots behind Julia and Julia is rear Ripley was one, Julia
35:21
was two. I forget who was three and four, and I apologize for
35:23
that, and that was tem Ncanna. Now, to be fair, Willow
35:28
Nightingale was actually ranked pretty high herself, like eleventh or something like that.
35:31
Eighth, I'm looking at the list now, four. I thought it eight.
35:37
Yeah, and look, well did not deserve eighth. I'm sorry.
35:42
She didn't do much last year to deserve eighth. You know, she had
35:45
a actually she had a pretty long losing streak last year. But yeah,
35:50
I mean, like, you Watchnacano and you watch Willow Nightingale, and I
35:53
love Willow Nightingale. Don't get me wrong. This isn't about any disrespect towards
35:59
Willow Knighton. It's just the fact that Tim mcanno is a damn good wrestler.
36:02
She's right up there with the best, and she's she's just just having
36:08
her lose this match in Japan just doesn't make any sense to me. Frankly
36:14
speaking, what I'd like to see is Temnacana win this match and then maybe
36:17
at at at double or nothing, No at double or nothing, we have
36:25
a three way or something like that, or even Forbidden Door or something,
36:30
because having Tim Ncanna wrestle below Nightingale makes no sense to me whatsoever, especially
36:37
having even if it wasn't this match with Tim McConnell, she could have been
36:40
wrestling a rookie at Startup. Why in the hell are you gonna this is
36:45
the same thing to happen with Eddie Kingston. Why before, arguably you're one
36:51
of your biggest pay per views of the year, are you sending one of
36:54
your champions clear across the world to wrestle and risk injury and then come back
37:07
and have to wrestle again the next week at a pay per view. Yeah,
37:12
I'm sorry, I can't. I can't even drive to the grocery store
37:15
without getting exhausted. I can't imagine traveling in Japan. Yeah, because they've
37:20
been building up this Mercedes Monete debut match. She's been basically feuding with Willow
37:24
Nightingale since she showed up at Big Business. Yeah, and it's also interesting
37:30
because, like you said they they asked if they could have this match,
37:36
and then aw said, yeah, let's do it as soon as possible.
37:38
And that to me suggests that they know that Willow's losing the title after Double
37:45
or Nothing, so they have to do the match now while she still has
37:49
the title. Yeah. Well, I'm gonna go ahead and say this too,
37:53
Alex And I don't know if you'll agree with me on this, but
37:57
Actulia that heart back got injured. I believe have been will over, I
38:00
mean, Mercedes versus Julia Hard at Double or Nothing. I really believe that
38:07
it feels like, you know, they they had Mercedes Moneque come out I
38:12
think at the very first match to like help Willow Nightingale fend off Julia Hart.
38:17
So I guess you can make the argument either way, but it does
38:21
feel like they've been setting up specifically this match. Yeah, I was definitely
38:25
coming, but I think that they wanted Mercedes to beat Julia and go into
38:30
the next match or whatever match with with Willow as the champion, you know.
38:36
So I don't know, it is kind of weird to give Willow the
38:39
belt and then take it off of her this quickly, like really just four
38:44
weeks later, so yeah, yeah, it's weird. I mean, I
38:47
don't know this. I'm interested in hearing what you guys feel about this,
38:52
not only the contract signing, which I'm sure everybody is just, you know,
38:57
on pins and needles waiting for that, but also the whole Willow versus
39:01
Tabnikano and Japan. Literally what ten days before or just eight days before the
39:07
pay per view pay per views? On what day the twenty sixth? I
39:15
honestly I don't remember. Yeah, yeah, the twenty sixth, So we're
39:17
twelve days away from the pay per view, right, She's going to wrestle
39:22
her this weekend. She's wrestling her Saturday. I don't I don't make any
39:27
sense, you know, with this being with this being the women's secondary belt,
39:32
I can understand them taking it off of Willow in a month's time.
39:37
I mean, like, I think, like you said, I like Kelsen.
39:42
I think it was supposed to be Julia because without her being injured,
39:49
she didn't she wouldn't have lost that match. I don't believe, right.
39:52
I like Willison, I like Willis Carry, I like Willow. I don't
39:55
think she's a strong enough person to be that champion. She's to me,
40:02
she's got way more down than she has up. Her bubbly personality is great
40:07
and all, but I just I don't know. It's just one of those
40:10
things that are you familiar with tab the Connor already at start off, I've
40:16
seen some stuff for her, And you're absolutely right. And if this was
40:22
full on, full on out, she destroyed, she destroy uh poor Willow
40:30
maybe to be fair, to be fair, this is not a slight against
40:32
well. She would destroy most of the women's roster at aid. Oh yeah,
40:36
yeah, yeah, you're right. And and the thing is, it
40:38
doesn't make any sense. But the thing I will say about that is Tony
40:44
doesn't have the greatest track record for doing the right thing when it comes to
40:49
women's division. I mean, really, he's had some issues. So and
40:59
and did they did they specifically ask? That's the simple thing that that that
41:02
I don't know did they specifically ask? Did it be for that? For
41:07
that? Did it be Willow or was it Wrestle somebody? I believe it
41:13
was Wressell somebody They want to do so why not send? Why not send
41:16
your best? Start them? Wanted to have a match after I think before
41:22
forbid door after forbidden door in Japan, and Tony said, let's do it
41:27
now that's what I read and over there now, so I send STU,
41:34
I think this is a good warm up match or willo before she goes and
41:42
and faces uh Mercedes. I I really hope Mercedes Monette does good because right
41:49
now she can't do the mic very good. So hopefully she comes out gun
41:53
the blaze and puts on a good show. Uh. But we don't know
41:57
if she's ready. She had stepped in the ring, so how are we
42:00
going? That's what scared me. What if she has ringed Russ and is
42:05
not as good as well she has been mk Uh Mercedes Monet has been wrestling
42:14
our training rather stringently and with Miya Yamashida from Tokyo Tokyo Joshi Pro Joe Tokyo
42:23
Joshi Pro Wrestling. So and me you is really good as a matter of
42:29
fact, that she was the one that beat thunder Rosa in those and that
42:35
eliminated eliminator match went thunder Roussa went to Japan, and then me you came
42:38
here to face thunder Roussa went. Thunder Rossa was the world champion and and
42:44
eventually lost in d a w ranked to uh to thunder Rosa me, it
42:50
was a very very, very very good wrestler, and I think that Mercedes
42:54
will be ready to double or nothing to put on a good match. Why
43:00
can't we do something like like Willow? Because to me, Willow is good,
43:07
but she's she's not as strong as a lot of the other women's wrestlers.
43:15
Suppose that there's some kind of switch and she gets quote unquote injured in
43:21
this match in Japan, and maybe stat Lander steps in to fill in her
43:27
place and she ends up wrestling Monet. I mean, that will be a
43:32
pretty big switch. But that do you see a problem. How far is
43:37
it by playing to Japan? Is it something like sixteen or eighteen hours you
43:45
know the West Coast this week? Yeah, But what I'm saying is you're
43:50
flying all the way to Japan wrestling and match, flying during one of their
43:54
bigger shows and startom shows, and then coming all the way back and then
44:00
you have to go and do a a pay per view. I mean that
44:06
just seems like it's almost unfair to Willow. Maybe if she gets hurt over
44:10
there, she won't have to fly back and stat Lander will step in and
44:15
take her place. Well, she gets hurt over there, then probably Tabnakana
44:20
will have the belt and she will have to come back and take her place.
44:22
Well yeah, yeah, or you know, is a title match,
44:28
but I will say this and of course is probably just oh it is a
44:31
title It is absolutely a title match because Tabnakano you know, of course she
44:37
would say this because she's promoting the match. But Tamna Kano did post saying
44:43
you know that she's going to be the TBS champion and she will be a
44:47
forbidden door. But of course any wrestler would say that she could win it,
44:53
and then she could come over here and russell money. I mean,
44:58
anything is possible. She needs to say she'll be the TVs champion and be
45:01
a double or nothing. Right, well, well I'm not going to be
45:06
in America for double or nothing. Kind of gives away the end result of
45:08
the match for the TVs Championship on Saturday. Yeah yeah, m And now
45:15
one last thing to mention, Willow's had some really really good promos, Like
45:20
she's been really good. Just to shout out her promo work, her acting
45:27
and stuff like that does put her on another level compared to some of the
45:30
other women in aw For me, yeah. Well, also, did you
45:35
see the video of her where she visited the wrestling Yeah, yeah, that
45:37
was really that was that. That was really awesome. So kudos to Willow.
45:42
It's just that I just don't think it's fair that she's got to go
45:45
all the way to Japan and back and then wrestle at the pay per view.
45:47
And she's not only just going to the Japan, she's wrestling Taen Nakano
45:52
of all people. I mean, put her in there with something like you
45:57
know, Meu Amasaki, a rookie or somebody doesn't you know, that would
46:01
be a believable win, you know, for Willow, I'm sorry say you
46:10
know, if you put her up against they're putting her against what the best
46:15
they got. Well, and and what I'm saying is if you put her
46:21
up against the rookie, there's a chance she could get hurt, more of
46:23
a chance of her getting hurt than if she's going against a consummate professional that's
46:30
on that level they can be you know, put her over, not have
46:34
to worry about getting her hurt and that kind of thing. So that's one
46:37
way to look at it. There's one way to look at it. Something
46:40
but I will say there's a rookie in excuse me, right, a rookie
46:45
at Stardom is not a rookie in a W or w W A, but
46:51
it that way. They're that good. Yeah, okay. And also like
46:55
for the start OFM a W relationship, it is kind of weird to send
47:00
AW wrestler to go there and beat their best wrestler, one of their main
47:06
event people. It is just kind of funny. Yeah. Well. The
47:09
other thing about that, Alex is that Merrigold, the promotion started by former
47:15
founder of Stardom. Their first event is on the twentieth, which I believe
47:22
is two days after the Willows. You don't want somebody from another company coming
47:30
and beating one of your top stars and have Marigold. I really do believe
47:37
that. I really do believe that if the partnership between Stardom and AW is
47:42
that strong, Tam nccatto needs to win this match. Doesn't make any sense
47:47
Otherwise, here's another thing. Who's in Stardom, who's her biggest rival?
47:54
Tam. Stardom is a little bit different than AW. Startup is very faction
47:59
being okay, so so like you would never have like a Claudio versus Eddy
48:05
kind of thing there. You would have more of a blackfull combat club against
48:08
the elite and its body. Here's my thing. This may not even be
48:14
a match. She may go over there, there may be an attack beforehand.
48:20
You know, there's a whole bunch of different things that could happen to
48:22
keep the belt where it's at and make it sure that she doesn't lose.
48:27
Yeah, they just don't do that over as Stardom though. Man, they
48:30
just don't. I mean, but what but here's something about stardom that let
48:36
me interrupt you here, because there's one thing that Stardom does that other wrestling
48:39
promotions do not do. They have a ton a ton and when I may
48:45
say a ton aton, it means a ton of time on it draws.
48:50
So it could come down to that too. Okay, they that's probably what's
48:53
gonna happen, leading to leading to a possible ability of with or without the
49:00
title or rematch at Forbidden Door. M hmm. Yeah, time limit is
49:08
good. That's what Rick Flair used to do and w a title. Yeah,
49:15
I mean that's an option because they do quite a bit of title mcbrows
49:19
there. Mm hmm. Okay, I think we we've said a lot about
49:24
this match. We said a lot more about the It's not even a match.
49:29
It's about a contracts love the contract sign It's it's the highlight of the
49:37
show. Who's going through the table? We didn't decide that this is This
49:42
has been ignition. So I'm going no one goes to the table. I
49:47
think Willow will get Mercedes monet on her shoulders and then Mercedes Mourney will uh
49:54
squirm loose and no one will go for the table. Stokely, Alex,
50:00
let me ask you this. So let's say that Willow puts Mercedes through the
50:07
table. M m. That means Mercedes is gonna win at double or nothing.
50:12
Advice versa, Mercedes puts Willow through the table. That means Willow is
50:15
gonna win at double or nothing. Do you agree with that because it's like
50:20
it's it's that's what happens the reverse logic. Yeah, yeah, I think
50:23
that. Yeah, you're you're definitely right. So if anyone goes through a
50:30
table, it'll be Willow. There's nobody booked telegraph books like Tony Khan.
50:36
He does this every time. Let us go into a match. Tony,
50:38
if you're listening to this, and I know you are, because you're such
50:42
an a w FT mark. You know. Listen, give us a match
50:47
that somewhere on this card where we don't know the winner before it gets the
50:54
gets the match, thank you so much, you know. But I mean,
51:02
rest, that's pretty predictable if you look at it. I've never,
51:07
you know, very very rarely have I seen upset. So it's nothing at
51:12
a part this. This could be a very good promo wise, this could
51:17
be a very good uh segment, but uh action WHI. They'll get notsed
51:22
and I don't see them doing anything before because they don't want to risk Mercedes
51:27
being accidentally hurts nothing, probably because she hasn't done too much entering. It's
51:34
been talking, so I wouldn't want to jeopardize that. But we'll see what
51:37
happens. We'll see, we'll see. But I'm saying what I'm saying MK,
51:39
is that this match Willow versus Mercedes is one of those matches where going
51:45
into double or nothing right now, it's like who's gonna win this match?
51:49
It's a toss up. You don't really know who's gonna win this match,
51:52
right but they're gonna do something to telegraph it. That's what I'm worried about.
51:58
All right, Alex, what do you want to talk about? Uh?
52:00
Okay, We're getting a very NJPW focused match with John Moxley and Danielson
52:09
versus Kyle Fletcher and Jeff Cobb. The Jeff Cobbs come. I guess who's
52:15
he replacing here? Oh? Will Hobbs as the big guy for Don Kyle's
52:21
family, So him and Kyle Fletcher were both part of United Empire, so
52:25
there's that angle to look out for. And then John Moxley's the new Japan
52:32
Champion. Yes, I think there's some interesting dynamics in this match. I
52:38
think definitely Moxley and Danielson are are going to win. But what I'm wondering
52:45
is what are we going to see Moxley doing at double or nothing? Is
52:50
he going to have a match? Is he going to be involved somehow?
52:52
Is he going to defend the new Japan title? That's a really good question.
52:58
Yeah, I wonder too what is he up to? Maybe that's what
53:06
was that that gay I said? He deserves a break every once in a
53:09
while. Now, I don't see route for him in two weeks, but
53:13
they'll find out for him to do. But he needs a break and because
53:16
he's been going full speed. Hmm. I think there's been talks of like
53:22
Takeshta wanting a shot at the new Japan title. Yeah, because to catch
53:31
this part of the callous family. And so is this uh Kyle Fletcher Jeff
53:35
copp thing is kind of sort of part of the callous family. So that's
53:40
the whole thing is it's it's to revenge the injury that he caused to hobb
53:45
That what this whole thing's about. Yeah, we just saw a video of
53:50
Hobbes by the way of post surgery and he's already working out. He's he's
53:57
working his upper body, obviously, but he's already at it. Dude was
54:00
probably working out during the third Dream. He's sitting there with the with the
54:07
dumbbells working out while they're doing it, and he's like, nah, dout
54:09
getting hurt and meet keep going. Look more power to Hobbs. Because I've
54:13
said it before and I'll say it again. The guy just strikes me as
54:15
just one hell of a good guy, you know, and you can't help
54:17
but roof for him. Hobbs. I know you're listening to this along with
54:21
You're probably sitting on the couch with Tony listening to this, you know,
54:24
get well soon, good luck. Has there been anything mentioned about how long
54:31
he's going to be out for it? He didn't say anything, but he's
54:35
he's wrapped up pretty good. It doesn't look like he's going to be back,
54:38
like within the next several months, just from just looking at it.
54:42
I mean, he's not moving, you know, he's his upper body's fine
54:45
though, you know so, and he was working a hell out of it
54:49
at the gym, That's what this was. But you know, he wasn't
54:52
doing much with his legs. They purposely did show him hobbling around hobbs the
54:55
hobbler. They didn't show it hobbler. Oh god, I know, I'm
55:05
so embarrassed. Well do you think going back? Do we think that,
55:09
you know? Or are we kind of seems like those are the talk so
55:15
far are pretty much an agreement that this match is gonna maybe set up something
55:19
for John Moxley, maybe something with Takeshtas for double or nothing. My thing
55:25
about the Kallis family has been in the last few weeks, they really haven't
55:30
been a family, I mean really dysfunctal, because usually when you had,
55:37
you know, before the Mockley and Hobbes match. They would come out,
55:44
they'd beat people up. They haven't been out to back each other up in
55:49
a while. I mean on Sunday on Saturday they had will Or Osprey's getting
55:58
he got beat up and left in the ring with the United Kingdom and nobody.
56:05
Fletcher didn't come out, Nobody came out. They just let it happen.
56:10
And you know, I get the fact that that they're they're playing the
56:15
angle where Osprey's gonna leave, but it's becoming less and less believable that this
56:22
is actually a functioning group other than just callous and whoever he decides it's going
56:29
to be his buddy that week, you know what I mean, Well,
56:31
he's doing the Orange Cassidy Trump Baratta thing. He's not even get that.
56:36
But what happened to the rest of his boys? Yeah, you know what
56:42
I mean, It just doesn't make any sense. So it's it's like,
56:46
I don't know what happened, But like a couple of weeks ago, they
56:50
were getting all this stuff was working really well for everything, and then it
56:55
was like, what did this whole EVP thing and everything else started to fall
57:00
apart? They stopped it just seems to me like they stopped the storylines and
57:05
just kind of like everything else crumbled away and it's just that, which is
57:08
kind of scary. Yeah, well, it's kind of weird. How like
57:15
logically, how is Don Kallas not involved with the evp's targeting Kenny Omega?
57:22
You know, like you really think about it. His whole thing is hating
57:25
Kenny Omega, and he's not involved in them beating up Kenny Omega. So
57:30
yeah, yeah, I mean maybe that's they're not They're not just so weird
57:37
because you would figure especially when Shane when Shane Taylor beat him up, isn't
57:40
he going to russell Shane Taylor this week? Yeah, Osprey, I guess
57:45
the collision, I think. Yeah, So it'll be interesting to see what
57:50
happens. Why I fifty to fifty match, anyone could win. I know
58:00
what you're gonna say, and I agree. I agree with you. If
58:04
Osprey has a stroke in the middle of the ring, he'll win, the
58:07
Taylor will win. Another one of those groups of people that don't belong on
58:15
aw TV. I'm sorry, but I think what I said. Why was
58:22
you've got a pay per view coming up next week? Why are you having
58:27
arguably your biggest star right now wrestle in a match that means absolutely nothing.
58:32
You know, it doesn't make any sense, It does not make any sense.
58:37
It's Osprey's side, I guess that. Do you have anything to step
58:45
that? Do you have anything to say about Jeff Cobb and Kyle Fletcher against
58:47
John Boxley and Brian Danielson. I like all of them. I think it's
58:53
gonna be really really good match. I'm excited to see that. That may
59:00
be one of my favorites. Really, that's pretty awesome. Yeah, I've
59:07
never seen him before. No, you haven't seen him wrestle. He's been
59:10
on a a few times, and he's actually really really good. He's he's
59:15
he's a shorter powerhouse. He kind of reminds me a lot of Rhino with
59:21
better agility, very very good comparison. Yeah, So look, I we
59:25
have four more matches to go, so I want to move on because I
59:30
want to get to all of them. These four matches, by the way,
59:34
are part of our throw the rankings out the window block because none of
59:37
them make any goddamn sense at all. Seriously, look at them, like,
59:45
what the a minute, No, wait a minute, I see here's
59:50
there there. You you're missing the point. Okay, the the that's just
59:58
not the match or yeah, so let's take let's what we're doing the let's
1:00:02
go in order here, okay, so let us talk about you know,
1:00:07
I'm so happy for myself because not only did I get to announced, you
1:00:12
know, to lead into the contract signing match, I also got to lead
1:00:19
into Harley Cameron against Tony Storm. Because Harley Cameron got her ass kicked by
1:00:24
Mariah May last week and somehow managed to get a title shot for this week.
1:00:30
You know, hey, throw to throw the here, hey throw the
1:00:35
tight the rankings right out the window because okay, so look, Harley Cameron
1:00:38
is you know, is is uh. She's a character, you know.
1:00:44
I gotta give it to her. She's she's fun to watch, you know,
1:00:47
because you just never know what's going to come out of her mouth,
1:00:51
you know. And I like that because I'm kind of fun to watch too,
1:00:54
because you never know what's going to come out of my mouth or my
1:00:58
other end either. But this match, it's it's being called a grudge match.
1:01:04
I guess that's the only way they can explain giving Harley Cameron a world
1:01:07
title shot. Actually, I don't know, I don't think. I don't
1:01:13
think it is a world title match. I think yeah, I don't know.
1:01:17
Hates Harley Cameron for because she touched her child. Yeah, but anyway,
1:01:29
this is gonna look my opinion, this is going to be an entertaining
1:01:31
match because she got Pony Storm. You never know what's going to come out
1:01:35
of her mouth. Yeah, Harley Cameron never was gonna come out of her
1:01:37
mouth. It's probably gonna be a squash, but it's gonna probably be you
1:01:43
know, entertaining to say the least. Yeah, yeah, goofy fun.
1:01:49
Also, you're missing that someone in, someone involved in that match will probably
1:01:53
come down. She's a crazy too, never come in her mouth, and
1:01:57
that's Sarah so Ray s a Riah Ada Patado. But look she's she's funny
1:02:04
to listen to. When you get three crazy people in the ring, you
1:02:07
get entertainment. So har be on camera and be on TV to get more
1:02:15
exposure and stuff. Does you deserve a non title grudge match? You know,
1:02:21
but they're kind of for Tony Storm to face, so you know,
1:02:28
you know, stuffs right down to But why, I mean, you've got
1:02:31
a double or nothing coming up in a week, and did basically ten days
1:02:37
from now, you know, or twelve days from now, whatever it is,
1:02:40
and less than two weeks, and you've got every single champion wrestling or
1:02:49
doing something on Dynamite or in Japan. It just does not make sense to
1:02:52
me at all. It's like, you know, you're playing Russian Roulette with
1:02:57
these wrestlers. You know how to come out, do a little talkie talkie,
1:03:00
slap each other in the face, don't put them at risk. I
1:03:07
think this is gonna be a lot of fun. Like, they don't even
1:03:12
need to have a match, just give them like mics and just let them
1:03:15
take goofy things to each other. I guess Serenade will come out at the
1:03:21
end in some way to further their feud for double or nothing, but right,
1:03:27
Oh yeah, yeah, I think this could be the funnest segment of
1:03:31
the night. For sure. It'll be the funnest match because you just you
1:03:36
have two blithering idiots in the ring and probably a couple of blithering idiots outside
1:03:40
the ring too. You know, it's just gonna be fun, poitless but
1:03:45
fun. Yeah. I don't think anybody really has much more to say about
1:03:53
this one. Alex, why didn't you go on to the next one and
1:03:57
make sure you stay the name right, Yeah, Kazluchika Okada. I think
1:04:02
I said it right, Yeah, Yeah, I'm excited for this match.
1:04:15
The one thing that worries me is or Ocada's chest. If Dax really lays
1:04:21
in his his his chop, I don't think. Yeah, I feel bad
1:04:29
for Okada because yeah, he doesn't deserve that. But yeah, you know,
1:04:33
obviously Okada is gonna win. I don't think Dax Harwood is going to
1:04:38
take the title off Okada. But this is kind of a you know,
1:04:43
it's like a low key dream match, and I'm excited for it. M
1:04:51
Oh my god, you know. Yeah, I mean, but where does
1:04:58
would get Howard? Why does Hartwood get the shot? I don't get it.
1:05:00
Go ahead. That That's all I have to say. I don't understand
1:05:02
it because of the family. I mean, if anybody deserves a singles match
1:05:10
and to prove that he's not just a tad wrestler and can and can go.
1:05:15
And he had a good match I hear against the his nephew and in
1:05:24
the room, and he's safe. He's not gonna hurt Okada. He's not
1:05:29
going to you know, he's gonna put on a good match and make him
1:05:32
look do we know he's gonna lose? But this, you know, this
1:05:36
is one of those storylines that involved I know the Elder are gonna get involved.
1:05:42
I'm hoping they don't injure him to in storyline and keep on playing off
1:05:46
that because I want to see this match, and I want to see him
1:05:49
go and put on the planet because he reminds me a little bit of Brett
1:05:54
Hart and his moves and Dispatcher and the way he goes about himself. So
1:05:58
but he puts on a match and and can and can keep people saying maybe
1:06:08
it will lead to the revealing of who replaces Eddie. That's a good point
1:06:15
because by the time this matter, and I wouldn't be surprised if this is
1:06:18
the main event, even though I got I think it should be. It
1:06:24
should be because you're gonna have stuff that's gonna happen afterwards. We already know
1:06:28
that this is gonna end up being You're gonna have the EVPs come out and
1:06:33
possibly even Jungle Boy, so you're gonna have their all four there, and
1:06:40
you know that's going to bring out Dash and everybody for that side is going
1:06:45
to come out, but Eddie can't. So maybe that's how they'll reveal who
1:06:48
the fourth guy is going to be if Eddie can't go. That's a good
1:06:54
thought. It makes more sense to do it, well, I said.
1:06:58
I want to say it makes more sense to do it as the main event,
1:07:00
but they don't always do that that way, so maybe it will be.
1:07:04
But it should be a very interesting match. But I agree with you
1:07:08
MK, I think it will be a good match. Oil Boy, anybody
1:07:16
else, I mean, does anybody else have it? I like that the
1:07:19
idea that this may set up who's going to replace Eddie? But yeah,
1:07:26
I like that. So there's another tag team match. Yeah, so let's
1:07:33
move on to the other tag team match. In our next throw of the
1:07:39
rankings out the window, we have an eliminator match between the Young Bucks and
1:07:45
Christopher Daniels, the Fallen Angel and Matt Sidell, who hasn't want to match
1:07:48
this just before and I think the week before the fall of the Berlin Wall.
1:07:55
It's better God's agency. That's the At this point, I'm like,
1:07:59
has as betside I'll ever want to match in his life ever, it's just
1:08:03
trying to get ridiculous, but anyway. Uh so, uh, Christopher Christopher
1:08:12
Daniels a betside all are gonna lose, and Uh that's it. That's that's
1:08:15
pretty much all. I gotta say. What else is there? Segment?
1:08:28
Yeah, there's a segment on Collision where Christopher Daniels did not allow the Young
1:08:33
Bucks to berate him backstage setting up this match. Yeah. Like Christopher Daniels,
1:08:44
he's uh, he's obviously a legend, like a t NA legend,
1:08:48
ring of honor. He had that s c U run and and he was
1:08:53
a big part of the beginning of a w and I missed a lot of
1:08:56
that, to be honest, though her Daniels is like a legend who I've
1:09:01
never really seen to have a good match personally or never seen be interesting for
1:09:09
me. I hope they they bring out like the best of him and they
1:09:13
just have an awesome tag team match and make me care more about Christopher Daniels
1:09:18
in that sidel as well. But uh, yeah, like I'm going and
1:09:23
open minded, I don't know what to expect. Yeah, I'm sorry.
1:09:30
It's gonna build up a lot of heat against the EVPs because Christopher Daniels is
1:09:40
kind of a legend around Seattle and oh, you know, people people love
1:09:48
to hate him, but he is very very well known and and respected.
1:09:55
So he's gonna have the crowd behind him one hundred percent, and it's it's
1:10:01
gonna bring a lot of a lot of you know, negative if there could
1:10:06
possibly be any more negativity with our ev e vps at this point. But
1:10:15
yeah, I don't see them winning, but you know, I don't see
1:10:19
Christopher Daniels in good old Matt Sidell winning, but I think it's gonna be
1:10:24
an overall good Matt. Yeah, they're a cheat to one of course,
1:10:29
and uh, the Young Bucks are, but I you know, like I
1:10:34
said before, those guys have history. I think that'll be a very good
1:10:39
tag team because they've yelled together, they've been down the road together a lot.
1:10:45
I don't know how close matts Sidell is with Young Bucks, but Young
1:10:50
Bucks and Daniels are very familiarly together that they're good friends. And I loved
1:10:56
it. You know, I love seeing Christopher Daniels because he you know,
1:10:59
he's been there where t and a Ring of Honor, he was a Ring
1:11:01
of Honor champion, he was a TNA ex everything excellent. He never won
1:11:09
the world I think he won both. Be honest about it, He's been
1:11:12
everywhere. Yeah, let me let me say this on the aw fan Hub
1:11:23
subreddit and also on the Greatness of subret Greatness of Wrestling subreddit today I posted
1:11:28
a question asking who was your favorite Who was your first Who was the first
1:11:35
first wrestler that became your favorite wrestler? Right, And of course you had
1:11:42
a lot of the Hulk Hogans, and you had a lot of the Edges
1:11:45
or Adam Copland where you had a lot of the Brian Danielson's and things like
1:11:48
that, but you also had a couple of believe it or not, Christopher
1:11:53
Daniels. Yeah, so he he When people were getting into wrestling, you
1:12:00
got to give Christopher Daniels credit. They obviously still obviously still remember him,
1:12:05
and they were his favorite and he was their favorite wrestler. No, you
1:12:11
can't dispute that. Yeah, he's Paul and Angel Gimmick I love oh yeah,
1:12:18
and its tag team his trios tag team with Elix Skipper and oh Man,
1:12:25
Uh Frankie, I can't remember the other guys. Huh was it Frankie
1:12:30
Frankie low key? Okay, I think they made a mistake in this but
1:12:40
God and finished him king. Oh uh yeah. I mean he's been around
1:12:45
and he and he's loved I'm wanting to see him get a little bit of
1:12:48
revenge on them. And that's why really I am picking him take Eddie's because
1:12:54
he deserves to be in the match. If if anybody here, here's where
1:13:01
I think they missed the vote in this, because you had at one point
1:13:05
in time when you had SCU in a w in the beginning, it was
1:13:09
Christopher Daniels and Frankie Gazarim where the Major was the tag team for a while,
1:13:15
and they named Frankie as the Elite Killer for six months after after lost
1:13:25
the tag titles. That's what they had him doing, was going around,
1:13:28
just going after the Elite would have been a perfect opportunity to tag them back
1:13:31
up again for this match. Yeah, but he went to DNA. Yeah,
1:13:40
is he still over there? Yeah, he decided to leave and do
1:13:45
TNA, and I guess he's doing good. I don't know. I don't
1:13:47
pay atention to that company, but yeah, he decided to leave full time
1:13:51
and leave AW for good. I remember watching uh back to Sinker build everything
1:14:03
back when TNA was in its big phase. They used to have in in
1:14:10
Cleveland. They had a wrestling a Cleveland Area Wrestling that you could go and
1:14:15
join the gym and you could actually wrestle if you wanted to. And they
1:14:16
were affiliated with TNA, and he used to be there a lot, so
1:14:21
I got to see him wrestle like once. They only had shows like on
1:14:26
TV once a month, but it was it was fun watching Christopher Daniels because
1:14:30
he was very, very fun to watch. Cool mm hmm yeah, me
1:14:36
and my wife sorry, uh so she's like newer to wrestling, so she
1:14:42
obviously didn't know Christopher Daniels before AW And we always joke because every time Christopher
1:14:48
Daniels was on TV, I'd be like, that's Christopher Daniels. He's like
1:14:51
blah blah blah, and she would never remember the next time he was on
1:14:56
TV, I'm like, who's that you wouldn't know? So we just haven't
1:15:00
cunning joke that every time he's on TV, even though she kind of knows
1:15:02
who he is now, he just pretends to not have any idea who he
1:15:06
is. Well, we've established an Alex mansplains wrestling to his wife to go
1:15:12
Alex. Yeah, yeah, of course, she says, I man explain
1:15:17
everything. So there you go. It's our duty as men to make total
1:15:24
fools of ourselves. Man's plating stuff that doesn't matter. Yeah, the man
1:15:29
explaining how I'm not actually man explaining exactly. That's not masplaining. I'm just
1:15:33
telling you. I catch myself to it all the time, So I'm making
1:15:44
fun of myself here to tickle myself to death. Alex, We've got one
1:15:47
more eliminator. Throw the rankings out the window. Match, let's talk about
1:15:51
it. Is this the first eliminator where someone will actually win the match?
1:15:58
The challenger? I don't think so. I think this is a zero.
1:16:01
I was like, wait, what, Yeah, Swerve versus Brian Cage,
1:16:08
this could be a really good match. I'm hoping Swerve brings the best out
1:16:12
of Brian Cage here. He can do a lot of cool things in the
1:16:15
ring. But what I'm most interested in in this match is what is the
1:16:21
status of Prince Nana. Is he gonna come out? Is there a chance
1:16:26
he betrays Swerve? Is he gonna align himself with them at the Embassy?
1:16:31
Yeah, that's That's what I'm interested about here, Alex. Though, if
1:16:34
if that was a portray Swerve don't you think you'd do it at double or
1:16:39
nothing? Why would they do it on Yeah, yeah, I don't.
1:16:44
Yeah, but you know, we might just see a hint of that or
1:16:47
yeah, no I did. That's the story here that I'm most interested in.
1:16:51
But yeah, that would be way more interesting to have it done it
1:16:55
double or nothing. For sure. There actually might be this actually might be
1:16:59
the eliminator that the challenger wins because you can't count out Christian interfering. Yeah,
1:17:08
so you may have the entire patriarchy come out. You might just have
1:17:15
kill Switcher whatever the hell he's called himself now and his other sons come out
1:17:20
and interfere and costs Swerve the the match. But it could be a good
1:17:28
match. I like Brian Cage. I've seen him do some good stuff in
1:17:30
the ring, but he just seems to be He's kind of like in the
1:17:35
same place as Wardlow is anymore. He's just there. He's had some good
1:17:41
matches though, I'm like, you know, Wardow has some decent matches,
1:17:45
but I remember when it was Cage versus Hangman Page and those two have pretty
1:17:54
good match match together. He can go. He just I don't know what
1:17:58
he He's one of those. He has just one thing missing and I don't
1:18:01
know what it is, but if they uh huh, it's Taz. When
1:18:06
he was part of the Taz's group, he was great and he did a
1:18:12
lot of good stuff. It's part of that group. And then they turned
1:18:15
on him. Man, that was when he started just becoming like I mean,
1:18:18
I love don't get me wrong, I love Wardlow, and I think
1:18:19
he's going to be great down the road, but he's kind of in the
1:18:23
same boat. He hasn't really done anything since then. So you're saying he
1:18:28
needs a mouthpiece. It's not so much that he needs a mouthpiece, but
1:18:32
to be honest with you, I don't see that that that that that he
1:18:36
fits in with this group. You know, it's the Gates of Agony and
1:18:44
Brian Cage. He's part of that group, but he's one of those like
1:18:47
I've been thrown in this group because they didn't have anything else to do with
1:18:51
me. So you know what I mean. It's they made a trio out
1:18:57
of a do out of a duo that they really didn't need to do,
1:19:00
and he needs to be he needs to get apart from that. Maybe if
1:19:03
you put him in Wardlow together as a tag team, that would be a
1:19:09
great thing. Maybe, Yeah, yeah, it could be good because yeah,
1:19:12
I agreed, like they've never gelled. It's been like years. I
1:19:16
think they've been together now at this point. Yeah, and they do that
1:19:19
like throw throw him for the throw the guy for the power bomb to Brian
1:19:26
Cage and he finishes that off. It doesn't Brian Cage, it takes the
1:19:30
loss. Yeah, it's such a weird group. Like those two guys together
1:19:34
look good, Brian Cage looks okay, but together it doesn't make any sense.
1:19:41
And yeah, yeah, I agree. Well that Do you have anything
1:19:46
to say about this patch? Oh yeah, yeah, I just saw Swerve,
1:19:55
so I'm kind of still starstruck. But I don't I don't know what
1:20:01
did you say? Was it? Yeah? Yeah, he was. He
1:20:06
was at DeFi, and you know, while we're talking about our world champion,
1:20:12
I have to say he is a really nice person. When he came
1:20:17
to DeFi, he stayed after the show. He wasn't wrestling or anything,
1:20:23
and he stayed and took pictures and signed autographs with every single person at that
1:20:29
show. And there were at least two hundred people there, so that it
1:20:36
was a surprise appearance. He wasn't nobody knew he was going to be there,
1:20:43
so it's really nice. But yeah, I feel bad for Brian Cage
1:20:47
because he he seems all alone in this world. He doesn't really fit anywhere.
1:20:55
I feel bad for him. I don't know, they need to do
1:20:58
some development with him because he's not a bad wrestler. Yeah, he's one
1:21:06
of those guys that really surprised you because his size, he can do some
1:21:10
amazing stuff for the guy his side. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of
1:21:14
people have compared Brian Cage to Wardlow, and I personally don't see that comparison
1:21:18
because Wardlow has accomplished things more consistently to Brian Cage does. Where I look
1:21:24
at Brian Cage, I see him as a comparison with like a parallel comparison
1:21:30
with Lance Archer. Right, two really really good wrestlers who are workhorses that
1:21:39
just can't catch a win. Yeah, they're you know, and they're you
1:21:44
know and you know, and you make if you go like on Twitter and
1:21:49
you mentioned Brian Cage or Lance Archer, they're going to respond to you.
1:21:54
I'm gonna tell you that right now. They are good guys and you can't
1:22:00
help, but root for them. I root for them, and I just
1:22:02
like to see them succeed. I really want to see them succeed. They're
1:22:05
it's not because they're good guys, because but because they're good guys and they're
1:22:11
excellent wrestlers supposed to Lance Archer and and Brian Cage. I just want to
1:22:18
see them succeed. I know, I know you don't like the I know
1:22:21
you don't like the trios. I got a trio for you, Lance Archer,
1:22:27
Brian Cage and Wardlow. I thought you were going to say that would
1:22:31
be under date the guidance. They could become the monsters and they could just
1:22:45
that would be a hell of a group. That's true, that's a good
1:22:47
idea. I mean they would be they would be unstoppable. Yeah. They
1:22:54
find a way to lose anyway. That's how they get. It doesn't matter
1:22:59
how much how much it seems to be. Like you could put Brian Cage
1:23:02
against Sir Pentico in a meaningful match and Sir Penteca would walk away. They
1:23:06
will find a way for Brian Cage to lose. Let's Lance Archer lost to
1:23:12
Orange Cassidy by a count out. How freaking stupid was that match. That
1:23:17
was just like, Okay, I absolutely hate Orange Cassidy now because they book
1:23:23
him like an idiot. Yeah, you know that. Honestly, that match
1:23:27
there maybe hate Tony Kahan. Honest to God, I'm not gonna I'm not
1:23:30
gonna lie to you. I was like, what the hell are they doing?
1:23:33
Lance Archer beat the shit out of Orange Cassidy and they did that to
1:23:36
Lance Archer And that's kind of the same thing they've been doing to Brian Cage
1:23:41
this whole time too. It's just like, you know, it's like a
1:23:45
donkey with a carrot being dangled before their nose. You know, it's just
1:23:47
like almost there, I almost get the carrot, and then boom, there's
1:23:51
a wall. Yeah yeah, and that's the point. Well, look,
1:23:57
we're gonna wrap this up now. Thank you for listening to edition. Thank
1:24:00
you everybody on the aw Fan podcast team for being here. I'm looking forward
1:24:06
to talking about the show to Mark. I mean, tomorrow, I can
1:24:10
have a lot of stuff happening to it, you know, but we'll see,
1:24:15
we'll see. It can either be a rocking good show or it could
1:24:18
just be okay, that kind of thing, I think, And it's gonna
1:24:21
be a rock and good show. I'm looking to see every segment on this
1:24:26
may have except for maybe the hook segment, you know, as yeah,
1:24:34
they're gonna I'm sure with hook they're gonna have something with the what do you
1:24:38
call it, the intelligent shrubbery or whatever it's called, you know, but
1:24:43
you know, yeah, the learning tree, the learning tree. I'm sorry,
1:24:48
I know it has something to do with leaning or learning Bill. There
1:24:54
go Big Bill, which is, let's face it, big Bill. It's
1:25:00
the most original name in all of wrestling. So anyway, William, oh
1:25:06
gosh, I can't wait for the show tomorrow night because there's just gonna be
1:25:11
a lot going on. Yea, even Picture Picture is probably gonna be something.
1:25:15
Uh yes, so don't turn off your TV during Picture and Picture.
1:25:19
But anyway, this has been ignition. This is Kelson. Good night,
1:25:28
everybody night, Yo, good night,