Latest / Crime Night / Faiza: A Tale of Reckoning and Retribution
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Okay, fixture this It's mid twenty thirteen, the day before
- 0:03Speaker 1: eed Elfitz. The air's cold still, it's dawn, maybe just
- 0:08Speaker 1: before in Osim, Giza just.
- 0:11Speaker 2: Quiet, really quiet, and Fiza she wakes up around five am.
- 0:14Speaker 2: It's her routine, you know, getting ready for her husband, Mustafa,
- 0:17Speaker 2: before he heads out for his job as a truck driver.
- 0:19Speaker 1: But this morning's different. Mustafa decides, no, I'm sleeping in
- 0:22Speaker 1: a bit of a holiday luxury exactly.
- 0:25Speaker 2: So Faiza. She just slips back into bed next to him.
- 0:28Speaker 2: Everything's peaceful, the house is.
- 0:29Speaker 1: Quiet until about six am. That's when it happens.
- 0:32Speaker 2: A sound, not loud right, not like a crash.
- 0:35Speaker 1: No more chilling out of place, coming from the apartment downstairs.
- 0:39Speaker 1: It's enough to jolt her awake, and.
- 0:40Speaker 2: Her heart starts racing. She nudges Mustafa, whispering like I
- 0:44Speaker 2: think I think someone's down there, maybe an intruder.
- 0:47Speaker 1: And right there, that ordinary morning just shatters Mustafa. He's
- 0:51Speaker 1: hit with this sudden like icy dread.
- 0:53Speaker 2: He throws the covers off, tears downstairs, and what he
- 0:56Speaker 2: finds it just ramps up the fear.
- 0:58Speaker 1: Instowing downstairs apartment door to jar just.
- 1:01Speaker 2: Opened a bit and then he sees the main house
- 1:02Speaker 2: door that's open to oh wow.
- 1:04Speaker 1: So he bursts out into.
- 1:05Speaker 2: The street, right into the street. It's completely silent outside,
- 1:09Speaker 2: which is terrifying, you know, compared to the panic he's feeling.
- 1:12Speaker 2: He's looking everywhere desperately, nothing, no one.
- 1:15Speaker 1: Just that empty pre dawn calm, the absolute worst kind
- 1:18Speaker 1: of calm, exactly.
- 1:19Speaker 2: Because then he goes back inside, back into the shadows
- 1:22Speaker 2: of that apartment, and this sickening realization just hits him.
- 1:27Speaker 1: The scene he walks into, it's unthinkable.
- 1:30Speaker 2: His two little girls, Schroc and Asala, they've been brutally murdered.
- 1:35Speaker 2: One's on the bed at the other hidden underneath it.
- 1:37Speaker 1: And then the silence breaks. Fis Us screams from upstairs,
- 1:41Speaker 1: then withst Off his own scream, just raw grief.
- 1:44Speaker 2: Neighbors start gathering, drawn by these awful sounds, and then
- 1:48Speaker 2: you know, the authorities arrive.
- 1:49Speaker 1: It's a scene that just grabs you immediately, doesn't it.
- 1:52Speaker 1: That horror right from the start.
- 1:53Speaker 2: Absolutely, it's visceral. And that's really our mission in this
- 1:56Speaker 2: deep dive to unpack how this terrible crime, starting with
- 2:00Speaker 2: what seems like a normal family in Egypt, could just
- 2:02Speaker 2: spiral into this tangled mess of betrayal, neglect, and horrific violence.
- 2:08Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not just listing facts here. We want to
- 2:10Speaker 1: explore the twisted decisions, the awful consequences that led to
- 2:15Speaker 1: these two little girls losing their lives.
- 2:17Speaker 2: Because the truth, when it finally crawled out of the darkness,
- 2:21Speaker 2: it was way more shocking, honestly, more disturbing than anyone
- 2:25Speaker 2: could possibly guess.
- 2:26Speaker 1: So let's peel back those layers. Let's really try to
- 2:29Speaker 1: understand how this happened. To get the full picture, we
- 2:31Speaker 1: really need to go back back to the beginning, or
- 2:34Speaker 1: at least the troubled foundations, between say, two thousand and
- 2:37Speaker 1: five and two thousand and nine.
- 2:38Speaker 2: Okay, So two thousand and five we meet Mustafa in Osin.
- 2:42Speaker 2: He's young, seems popular, a hard working truck driver, drives
- 2:45Speaker 2: one of those small trucks hauling bricks cement, makes decent.
- 2:49Speaker 1: Money, a stable life, you'd say, modest maybe, but stable
- 2:52Speaker 1: pretty much.
- 2:53Speaker 2: And he's incredibly close to his father, Yeah, listens to
- 2:56Speaker 2: his advice on almost everything. They live together in this
- 2:58Speaker 2: four story family house.
- 3:00Speaker 1: Okay, But then in that same year, two thousand and five,
- 3:03Speaker 1: he decides he wants to get married. He chooses a
- 3:05Speaker 1: local girl a beer, right.
- 3:06Speaker 2: A beer. She's described as intelligent, but and this is key,
- 3:11Speaker 2: she apparently had this questionable past that she managed to
- 3:14Speaker 2: keep hidden, really well hidden. Well apparently anything if he
- 3:17Speaker 2: happened outside their local area, so nobody you know, seem
- 3:20Speaker 2: could really you know, put anything on her. But here's
- 3:23Speaker 2: the really strange part. Mustapha's father, the guy he always
- 3:27Speaker 2: listens to. He strongly disapproves of the marriage.
- 3:30Speaker 1: That doesn't say why.
- 3:31Speaker 2: Exactly, Yeah, no clear reason given, just this gut feeling maybe,
- 3:36Speaker 2: But Mustapha he just dismisses it. He's kind of got
- 3:39Speaker 2: a beer up on a pedestal, thinks she's an angel.
- 3:41Speaker 2: So they get married in early two thousand and six.
- 3:43Speaker 1: Makes you wonder what the father sense, doesn't it? And
- 3:45Speaker 1: Mustapha himself you mentioned insecurity suspicion.
- 3:50Speaker 2: Oh, deeply insecure and apparently quite suspicious, almost paranoid, sometimes
- 3:54Speaker 2: making up scenarios a beer, though she seems manipulative, focused
- 3:59Speaker 2: only on making the marriage work, managing Mustafa's issues okay, And.
- 4:02Speaker 1: Then just a year later, two thousand and seven, their
- 4:04Speaker 1: first daughter arrives, Charoke.
- 4:06Speaker 2: Yes, and from day one, Charok becomes Mustafa's entire world.
- 4:11Speaker 2: He adores her, but a beer. That's where it gets unsettling.
- 4:14Speaker 2: Sources suggest a beer was pretty indifferent to being a mother,
- 4:17Speaker 2: like having a baby was just a biological thing, no
- 4:20Speaker 2: real emotional connection.
- 4:21Speaker 1: Wow, and that indifference showed.
- 4:23Speaker 2: Apparently, so she started being absent more often, always had excuses,
- 4:27Speaker 2: doctor market friends, plausible stuff. Mustapha's suspicions. They're growing, but
- 4:33Speaker 2: he is zero.
- 4:34Speaker 1: Proof and the money thing, right.
- 4:36Speaker 2: She'd ask for money, often for the house for the baby,
- 4:39Speaker 2: but Mustafa noticed the cash would just disappear. No new
- 4:44Speaker 2: things bought, just gone. A subtle pattern of deception starting
- 4:48Speaker 2: to form.
- 4:48Speaker 1: Then another year goes by two thousand and eight, their
- 4:50Speaker 1: second daughter, Asala, is born, so.
- 4:53Speaker 2: Now they have two girls. The money pressure on Mustafa's increasing,
- 4:57Speaker 2: his suspicions about a beer still simmering despite her.
- 5:00Speaker 1: Denials, until the breaking point in two thousand and nine.
- 5:03Speaker 2: Exactly, a friend of Mustafa's is out. He's at a
- 5:06Speaker 2: nightclub in Haram, an area known for let's say, less
- 5:08Speaker 2: reputable activities, and who does he see a beer? A
- 5:11Speaker 2: beer but totally transform different clothes, heavy makeup, clearly not
- 5:15Speaker 2: just out for a quite.
- 5:16Speaker 1: Evening, and that confirms everything for Mustapha.
- 5:18Speaker 2: His worst fears. Yeah, the divorce was instant. But here's
- 5:21Speaker 2: another disturbing detail. A Beer initially hesitates about taking the girls.
- 5:26Speaker 1: Really she didn't want them.
- 5:28Speaker 2: It sounds like it was more about appearances, like how
- 5:30Speaker 2: would it look a divorced woman without her kids? So
- 5:33Speaker 2: she takes them, but both Mustafa and a Beer are
- 5:36Speaker 2: now thinking about their next steps.
- 5:37Speaker 1: Mustafa needs someone to look after him and the.
- 5:39Speaker 2: Girls immediately, and a Beer's worried about how she'll continue
- 5:43Speaker 2: her well her nightclub work now that she's a divorced
- 5:46Speaker 2: mother with two kids.
- 5:48Speaker 1: It's a critical moment, absolutely, because this sets the stage
- 5:50Speaker 1: for who comes into their lives next. And as we
- 5:53Speaker 1: move into this next chapter from two thousand and eight
- 5:55Speaker 1: to twenty twelve, you think Mustafa is starting fresh, but it's.
- 5:59Speaker 2: Actually the beginning of something much, much darker. While a
- 6:03Speaker 2: Beer's figuring things out, this woman Fasa shows up in Osim,
- 6:08Speaker 2: that's back in two thousand and eight.
- 6:09Speaker 1: Where did she come from?
- 6:10Speaker 2: Her story was she'd fled her family and said that's
- 6:13Speaker 2: Upper Egypt, often seen as more traditional. She mentioned problems,
- 6:16Speaker 2: but nothing specific. She presented herself as you know, poor
- 6:20Speaker 2: and good hearted, just.
- 6:21Speaker 1: Looking for work, and someone helped her out.
- 6:23Speaker 2: Stuff has uncle yeah, had a shot nearby, felt sorry
- 6:27Speaker 2: for her, gave her a job a small room in.
- 6:29Speaker 1: His house, and Mustapha noticed her.
- 6:31Speaker 2: He watched her for a while, saw her seeming kindness,
- 6:34Speaker 2: how she was apparently great with kids, always playing with
- 6:36Speaker 2: the neighborhood children.
- 6:38Speaker 1: He liked what he saw, so he decides to marry her.
- 6:41Speaker 2: He does, and again his father warns him, we don't
- 6:43Speaker 2: know her background, where she's really from, why she left
- 6:46Speaker 2: her family, same.
- 6:48Speaker 1: Mornings and Mustafa ignores him again, Just.
- 6:50Speaker 2: Like with a beer, he set on it and fisa,
- 6:53Speaker 2: she jumps at the chance, accepts his proposal immediately, maybe
- 6:57Speaker 2: saw it as her ticket to stability, you know.
- 6:59Speaker 1: But then she asks for something unusual and orphy marriage first.
- 7:03Speaker 2: Yes, that's the unofficial kind of marriage contract in Egypt.
- 7:07Speaker 2: It's private, not legally registered. Right away, she says they'll
- 7:11Speaker 2: make it official later after meeting her family.
- 7:13Speaker 1: Hmmm, that raises a red flag, doesn't it?
- 7:15Speaker 2: With a secrecy, it certainly makes you wonder. But Mustafa,
- 7:19Speaker 2: he just agrees, no questions asked, and right then the
- 7:22Speaker 2: power dynamics starts shifting dramatically. How sad well a beer
- 7:26Speaker 2: Mustapha's first wife, she remarries really quickly and her new
- 7:30Speaker 2: husband he lays down a condition she has to completely
- 7:32Speaker 2: abandon Chorroc and Asala what just completely? And she agrees,
- 7:36Speaker 2: So Mustafa goes and gets his daughter's back.
- 7:39Speaker 1: Unbelievable. So the girls move in with Mustapha and Faza.
- 7:42Speaker 2: Yes, and that good hearted image Faiza had it starts
- 7:45Speaker 2: to crumble almost immediately. She lays down these really disturbing
- 7:49Speaker 2: rules like what total obedience from the girls, no contact
- 7:53Speaker 2: whatsoever with a beer their biological mother. And maybe the
- 7:57Speaker 2: worst part, Charroc and Asala must call Faisa mama and
- 8:01Speaker 2: call a Beer their real mom.
- 8:03Speaker 1: Culty Anti and everyone just went along with this Mustapha.
- 8:06Speaker 2: Beer Shockingly, yes, everyone agreed a beer seemed totally indifferent
- 8:10Speaker 2: to her own daughters, basically having their identity erased. It
- 8:13Speaker 2: speaks volumes about the adults involved, tho.
- 8:15Speaker 1: It really does.
- 8:16Speaker 2: So.
- 8:16Speaker 1: By twenty ten, FIS's true colors are showing fully.
- 8:19Speaker 2: That good hearted woman becomes shrewd is the word used.
- 8:24Speaker 2: She knows exactly how to please Mustafa, keep them happy,
- 8:27Speaker 2: but behind his back. She's subjecting sharrok in a solid
- 8:29Speaker 2: to severe physical abuse.
- 8:31Speaker 1: Abuse, but she calls it teaching.
- 8:33Speaker 2: Manners, re raising them. That's how she rationalized it. Yeah,
- 8:36Speaker 2: and the most chilling part, Mustapha approved of this discipline
- 8:41Speaker 2: because Faiza said it was necessary.
- 8:43Speaker 1: How could he, the man who adored Charoke? How could
- 8:46Speaker 1: he let that happen?
- 8:47Speaker 2: It's profound neglect, isn't it just staggering? And the girl's
- 8:51Speaker 2: isolation gets even worse. Fisa demands they be moved out
- 8:55Speaker 2: of the main apartment chrokes five us all is four.
- 8:58Speaker 2: She wants them put in the empty second floor apartment
- 9:01Speaker 2: of the family hun.
- 9:02Speaker 1: To live alone, alone, little kids. Why.
- 9:05Speaker 2: Her reason, so she and Mustapha could have privacy for
- 9:08Speaker 2: their well, their intimate relations. She claimed the girls were
- 9:12Speaker 2: old enough to notice things. Ada Mustapha he agrees, He complies.
- 9:16Speaker 2: He basically abandons his daughters to live by themselves on
- 9:19Speaker 2: the severate floor. Meanwhile, the Orphi marriage eventually becomes official
- 9:23Speaker 2: after Mustafa meets Faiza's family. Her position is cemented.
- 9:27Speaker 1: This is getting darker and darker. Yeah, and Mustafa's jealousy, Yeah, that.
- 9:31Speaker 2: Ramps up too, becomes almost irrational. Focused on Faiza. It
- 9:34Speaker 2: leads to this big conflict with the local worker Muhammad,
- 9:37Speaker 2: same line of work as Mustafa.
- 9:38Speaker 1: What happened?
- 9:39Speaker 2: Faisa falsely accuses Mohammad of harassing her. Mustafa, totally believing her,
- 9:44Speaker 2: flies into a rage, confronts Mohammed and forces him to
- 9:47Speaker 2: leave the area completely. Mohammad agrees and moves away.
- 9:51Speaker 1: So Faiza manipulated him into getting rid of this guy?
- 9:54Speaker 2: Seems that way. Then fast forward to mid twenty twelve,
- 9:58Speaker 2: Faiza gets pregnant with most off as child. Their new
- 10:01Speaker 2: baby stays upstairs with him. Of course, Washeroq and Asala
- 10:05Speaker 2: still downstairs alone, isolated, neglected.
- 10:08Speaker 1: Which brings us right back horribly to that dawn in
- 10:12Speaker 1: mid twenty thirteen, the day before d The police arrives
- 10:16Speaker 1: the forensic teams.
- 10:17Speaker 2: And right away things don't add up. No forced entry signs,
- 10:20Speaker 2: not on the downstairs apartment door, not on the main
- 10:22Speaker 2: house door, suggests the killer either had a key or
- 10:25Speaker 2: was let.
- 10:26Speaker 1: In, and little kids aren't letting strangers in at five
- 10:28Speaker 1: am without making a sound impossible exactly.
- 10:31Speaker 2: Then they find the knife bloodstained in the kitchen. The
- 10:33Speaker 2: kitchen itself is described as violently disturbed signs of a
- 10:36Speaker 2: struggle and.
- 10:37Speaker 1: The girl's positions shroke on the bed Aslam moved under it.
- 10:40Speaker 2: Yeah, like someone tried to hide her after the fact.
- 10:42Speaker 2: And here's a huge red flag for the investigators. The
- 10:45Speaker 2: forensic evidence. It says the girls died hours earlier than
- 10:49Speaker 2: Faisa claim she heard a noise maybe three hours.
- 10:52Speaker 1: Early, three hours so around three am.
- 10:55Speaker 2: Around that time, yes, yeah, long before her six am discovery.
- 10:58Speaker 2: And then there's the gas cylinder hose removed, gas still flowing,
- 11:03Speaker 2: a clear attempt at arson destroy the evidence.
- 11:05Speaker 1: So questioning starts.
- 11:07Speaker 2: Mustapha, he's bewildered, confused, suggests a beer and her new
- 11:11Speaker 2: husband maybe revenge, but police clear them quickly. He does
- 11:16Speaker 2: mention this this weird gut feeling about Piza's reaction though,
- 11:19Speaker 2: what feeling that her breakdown seemed fake, like she was acting,
- 11:23Speaker 2: but he pushes the thought away, tells himself, well they
- 11:25Speaker 2: weren't her real daughters.
- 11:27Speaker 1: Unbelievable justification and Phaiza's story.
- 11:29Speaker 2: She gives this detailed account of her morning, waking up
- 11:32Speaker 2: Mustafa sleeping in, hearing the noise, but he just doesn't
- 11:35Speaker 2: line up with the timeline from forensics.
- 11:36Speaker 1: Things aren't adding up at all until the breakthrough forensics exactly.
- 11:41Speaker 2: The lab finds fingerprints on the murder weapon, the knife,
- 11:45Speaker 2: and they match prints found on the downstairs apartment door,
- 11:49Speaker 2: a direct link.
- 11:50Speaker 1: And who do the prince belong to?
- 11:52Speaker 2: They circle back to Mohammed the worker Mustapha had that
- 11:55Speaker 2: big fight with over Paiza, the when he forced to
- 11:57Speaker 2: leave town months before.
- 11:59Speaker 1: Mohammed okay, does he have an alibi?
- 12:01Speaker 2: He claims he does, says he was at work then
- 12:04Speaker 2: very publicly at a coffee shop having breakfast. People saw
- 12:07Speaker 2: him there. But the locals who saw him noted his
- 12:10Speaker 2: behavior was off, really exaggerated. They said, like he was
- 12:15Speaker 2: putting on a show, making sure everyone noticed him. Not
- 12:18Speaker 2: his usual self at all.
- 12:19Speaker 1: Suspicious and the fingerprints.
- 12:21Speaker 2: They're a match. Mohammed's fingerprints are on the knife in
- 12:24Speaker 2: the door. It's undeniable. They arrest him immediately.
- 12:27Speaker 1: And under questioning, he confesses he does. And it's absolutely shocking.
- 12:30Speaker 1: He admits he killed the girls. But the motive it
- 12:35Speaker 1: wasn't revenge against Mustafa. Then why he said it was
- 12:37Speaker 1: to protect himself from scandal.
- 12:39Speaker 2: Protect himself from scandal. That's the reason for murdering two children.
- 12:42Speaker 2: That's what he claims, and then then he drops the
- 12:45Speaker 2: name that just blows this whole case wide open, the
- 12:49Speaker 2: name that reveals the true architect behind it all. Pisa, Pisa.
- 12:53Speaker 2: The investigators are stunned. They arrest her immediately too.
- 12:56Speaker 1: So that's where the real story comes out. The affair.
- 12:59Speaker 2: Yes, Mohammad reveals everything. He and Fiza had been having
- 13:02Speaker 2: an affair for about a year and their meeting.
- 13:05Speaker 1: Spot Oh no, don't tell me, the.
- 13:09Speaker 2: Girls downstairs apartment. Faiza would leave the door open for
- 13:12Speaker 2: him when Shiroc and Asala were out, probably at school
- 13:15Speaker 2: or playing.
- 13:15Speaker 1: So that earlier fight, the harassment accusation, all.
- 13:18Speaker 2: Alie, It was a fight between them between Faiza and Mohammed.
- 13:21Speaker 2: When things got rocky, Fiza preemptively accused him to Mustafa,
- 13:25Speaker 2: manipulating Mustafa into forcing Mohammad out of town a way
- 13:29Speaker 2: to control the situation, maybe get rid of him before
- 13:31Speaker 2: he caused problems for her.
- 13:32Speaker 1: But the affair started again.
- 13:34Speaker 2: Months later, Yes, it reignited. Paisa used doctor visits as
- 13:38Speaker 2: her cover story to sneak away.
- 13:39Speaker 1: And meet him, which brings us to the night itself.
- 13:42Speaker 1: The full truth.
- 13:43Speaker 2: Mohammad lays it all out. They ranged to meet that
- 13:46Speaker 2: night in the girl's apartment. He arrives around three am.
- 13:50Speaker 2: Faiza left the doors open, Gustafa's asleep upstairs, totally unaware,
- 13:54Speaker 2: and they're in the kitchen, yes, engaged in their affair,
- 13:57Speaker 2: and suddenly Hiroc and Asala peer standing right there. The
- 14:02Speaker 2: sources say they just look stunned. Caught them.
- 14:04Speaker 1: Oh God, the poor girls.
- 14:07Speaker 2: In that instant, Mohammed panics. He grabs the kitchen knife.
- 14:10Speaker 2: He kills Schrogue first, then Asalah brutally impulsively.
- 14:15Speaker 1: And Faiza what did she do?
- 14:16Speaker 2: She watched passively, didn't try to stop him, didn't intervene,
- 14:20Speaker 2: just watched her stepdaughters being murdered.
- 14:23Speaker 1: I can't even process that watch watched.
- 14:26Speaker 2: Then the cover up attempt. Mohammad removes the Gasos planet
- 14:30Speaker 2: to burn the place down, but around four thirty am,
- 14:32Speaker 2: Faiza tells him to leave.
- 14:34Speaker 1: Why.
- 14:34Speaker 2: She's worried Mustafa might wake up soon, but she's chillingly
- 14:37Speaker 2: confident she can handle the situation herself now. She sends
- 14:40Speaker 2: Mohammed away and her plan, her plan was cold calculated.
- 14:44Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 14:44Speaker 2: She goes upstairs, slips into bed next to Mustafa, tries
- 14:47Speaker 2: to wake him. At five am, send him off to work,
- 14:49Speaker 2: hoping he'll stumble upon the scene, make it look like
- 14:52Speaker 2: a robbery gone wrong.
- 14:53Speaker 1: But he slept in.
- 14:54Speaker 2: He slept in, so Faiza, she just waits for a
- 14:57Speaker 2: whole hour, lying there before Fi only at six a m.
- 15:01Speaker 2: Staging the whole intruder discovery, waking Mustafa up, pretending to
- 15:05Speaker 2: be terrified.
- 15:06Speaker 1: The level of detachment. It's monstrous. This whole story is
- 15:09Speaker 1: just Layer's failure, it really is. You.
- 15:12Speaker 2: Look at Faiza escapes hardship, finds a new life, then
- 15:15Speaker 2: throws it away for an affair that ends in the
- 15:17Speaker 2: motor of children. She was meant to protect.
- 15:19Speaker 1: You.
- 15:19Speaker 2: Look at Mohammed, married family of his own, kills two
- 15:22Speaker 2: little girls just to hide his affair, and.
- 15:24Speaker 1: The parents Mustapha and a beer, The sheer indifference, a
- 15:27Speaker 1: beer practically selling her daughter's identities, Mustapha okaying, the isolation,
- 15:32Speaker 1: the abuse, calling it discipline.
- 15:34Speaker 2: How do you even get to that point where you
- 15:36Speaker 2: agree to your children living alone on another floor, where
- 15:39Speaker 2: you allowed even to prove of them being heard. It's
- 15:42Speaker 2: a complete breakdown of parental responsibility.
- 15:44Speaker 1: A complete void where protection should have been.
- 15:47Speaker 2: And the tragic consequence of all these failures, all these
- 15:51Speaker 2: selfish choices. Charoq and Asalah innocent lives, just caught in
- 15:56Speaker 2: the middle, completely fail by every adult who should have
- 15:58Speaker 2: cared the outcome.
- 16:00Speaker 1: Mohammed were both sentenced to death, weren't they.
- 16:02Speaker 2: Yes, both receive the death penalty for their crimes, which
- 16:05Speaker 2: feels like justice maybe, but it doesn't bring back Sharock
- 16:09Speaker 2: in a saul. It just highlights the senselessness of it all.
- 16:11Speaker 1: Two little girls just gone because of this, this web
- 16:16Speaker 1: of deceit and neglect.
- 16:17Speaker 2: It really makes you think, doesn't it, This whole deep
- 16:19Speaker 2: dive into their story. It forces you to ask what
- 16:23Speaker 2: really happens when the most basic duties, the responsibilities of marriage,
- 16:27Speaker 2: of parenthood are just completely abandoned. How far can that deception,
- 16:32Speaker 2: that neglect actually go when people prioritize themselves above all else.
- 16:36Speaker 1: Yeah, it makes you consider the ripple effects. You know,
- 16:38Speaker 1: every choice, even the ones made in secret, they echo
- 16:40Speaker 1: outwards and sometimes, as we saw here, the impact on
- 16:43Speaker 1: the most vulnerable is just devastating beyondwards. Something to really
- 16:48Speaker 1: sit with.