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INSTANT REACTION: Josh Allen & Bills DOMINATE Carson Wentz & Vikings on MNF, Jaguars go ALL IN at NFL Trade Deadline, Puka Nacua heads to IR, NFL Post-Week 9 Mailbag · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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  Speaker 1: The Volume. What is going on, my people? How are
• 0:18
  Speaker 1: we doing? John Middlecoff. This is the Three and Out Podcast.
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: And I, as many of you, just witnessed... one of
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: the worst offensive games you will ever see. It's probably
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: one of the worst quarterback games in a primetime game
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  Speaker 1: for a good team that I can remember. I mean,
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: that was rough. Josh Allen, the Bills prevail, win by
• 0:44
  Speaker 1: several scores, even though it was really close because obviously
• 0:47
  Speaker 1: the Vikings defense is excellent. We'll dive into that game.
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: We'll dive into Howie Roseman, man. When he's Somehow he
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: just can extract first-round picks out of other people. It's like, well,
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: what are you giving me? Like Donovan McNabb? Deshaun Jackson?
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  Speaker 1: Lane Johnson in his prime? No. We'll give you Jordan Davis. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: all pro? No, actually, he's never made a Pro Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: But here you go. Oh, we're also going to need
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  Speaker 1: a second-round pick, too. So, I mean, the Eagles now,
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  Speaker 1: Howie's got all these first-round picks the next couple years.
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  Speaker 1: They got 10 picks, I think, in the next three
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  Speaker 1: years in the top two rounds. And he's trading guys
• 1:28
  Speaker 1: with degenerative knees and run-stuffing defensive tackles. So we'll dive
• 1:33
  Speaker 1: into the action there, some dad diaries, some Middlecoff mailbag,
• 1:37
  Speaker 1: and that'll be the podcast. Then tomorrow we will react
• 1:42
  Speaker 1: to anything, hopefully a lot of craziness, but you never know.
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  Speaker 1: It's been known to be a letdown in the past,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm keeping my fingers crossed that we get some crazy–
• 1:55
  Speaker 1: crazy moves. You never know. We've got some GMs on
• 1:57
  Speaker 1: tilt right now and some head coaches ready to deal.
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  Speaker 1: But me and Colin recorded our Sunday podcast today, so
• 2:03
  Speaker 1: you can check that out. You can check that out
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  Speaker 1: on YouTube or the podcast feed. And if you listen
• 2:08
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• 2:18
  Speaker 1: sure you check out the YouTube page. A lot of
• 2:19
  Speaker 1: content up there as well. I appreciate all you guys.
• 2:21
  Speaker 1: And let's just Let's just dive into the Monday Night
• 2:25
  Speaker 1: Football game. I'm not sure I've ever seen anything quite
• 2:28
  Speaker 1: like it. When the graphic came up midway through the
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  Speaker 1: fourth quarter and the time of possession was 37 to 17,
• 2:39
  Speaker 1: you just went, how is this possible? And the number
• 2:45
  Speaker 1: one thing that stood out to me as that game
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  Speaker 1: played out is Kevin O'Connell has a problem on his hands.
• 2:52
  Speaker 1: His team... his defensive coordinator, his defensive staff, his fan
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  Speaker 1: base are going to revolt. Like legitimately. He is going
• 3:03
  Speaker 1: to have a mutiny on his hands inside that locker
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  Speaker 1: room if they don't do something on Tuesday. They have
• 3:11
  Speaker 1: to attempt to put a band-aid on this bullet hole
• 3:15
  Speaker 1: that is currently their quarterback situation. It is a disaster.
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  Speaker 1: And clearly, I mean, tonight in a weird way was
• 3:24
  Speaker 1: a positive for Kyler Murray because for as bad and
• 3:29
  Speaker 1: as poor as he's played, he is clearly much better
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  Speaker 1: than Carson Wentz, who I don't say this with any joy,
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  Speaker 1: but this is the business that I discuss. This is
• 3:42
  Speaker 1: the business that Kevin O'Connell and the Minnesota Vikings are in.
• 3:46
  Speaker 1: You have to cut him. He has to be released tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: And this is why players on the defensive line, linebackers,
• 3:55
  Speaker 1: tight ends, whatever, I think sometimes get in their feelings
• 3:59
  Speaker 1: a little bit, how quarterbacks are treated. If someone had
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  Speaker 1: that performance in that game and didn't have any sort
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  Speaker 1: of upside, didn't bring anything to the table as a player,
• 4:13
  Speaker 1: they would be relieved of their duties, a.k.a. cut. That's
• 4:18
  Speaker 1: what happens in the NFL. And I also think the
• 4:21
  Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings, their new GM, kind of have to just
• 4:24
  Speaker 1: cut Carson Wentz to send a message to their team,
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  Speaker 1: this will never be acceptable. We are sorry. The defense,
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  Speaker 1: who is playing out of their mind, in a day
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  Speaker 1: and age where all the rules are against you on
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  Speaker 1: that side of the ball, where you shouldn't be able
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  Speaker 1: to dictate the terms anymore because... It's hard to be
• 4:46
  Speaker 1: physical without getting flagged. It's really hard to do anything.
• 4:49
  Speaker 1: It is a difficult thing to do is play defense
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  Speaker 1: in the modern day game of football because the officials
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  Speaker 1: are just literally against you and word is coming from
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  Speaker 1: the league. It's not even an argument at this point
• 5:05
  Speaker 1: in time. Yet Brian Flores has them looking like a
• 5:08
  Speaker 1: unit from the 80s or the 90s. It is truly incredible.
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  Speaker 1: And tonight, at least for the majority of that game,
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  Speaker 1: Until the dam broke because... You just can't be on
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  Speaker 1: that field that long... Without eventually being kind of fatigued.
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  Speaker 1: They were taking it to Josh Allen. Who I think...
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  Speaker 1: By most people... Including myself... Is the best player in
• 5:29
  Speaker 1: the NFL. And they made him look... He was on
• 5:33
  Speaker 1: his heels. They were sacking him. They were pressuring him.
• 5:36
  Speaker 1: He was running around for his life. And obviously they
• 5:39
  Speaker 1: had some... New offensive linemen in there. So it's going
• 5:42
  Speaker 1: to be tough against this blitzing defense. Which... Feels like
• 5:45
  Speaker 1: they're bringing pressure every single play because that's what he does.
• 5:48
  Speaker 1: No one blitzes at the rate he blitzes at, but
• 5:50
  Speaker 1: a lot of guys just blitz. How many times on
• 5:53
  Speaker 1: a Sunday do you watch a defense and you watch
• 5:57
  Speaker 1: the blitz slowly materialize like a safety coming back from
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  Speaker 1: deep or a linebacker pretending he's dropping into coverage and
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  Speaker 1: then take it off? It's like the guy was like
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  Speaker 1: seven yards away from the quarterback when he releases the ball.
• 6:11
  Speaker 1: and then the guy's wide open in the spot that
• 6:14
  Speaker 1: he left. You're like, good call there, defensive coordinator. That
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  Speaker 1: does not seem to happen to Flores. Now, maybe it's
• 6:20
  Speaker 1: because his blitzers are always at the line of scrimmage,
• 6:23
  Speaker 1: but they immediately get home. I am, I would say, admire, respect,
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  Speaker 1: and it's just, I thoroughly enjoy watching Minnesota play football
• 6:36
  Speaker 1: when they're on defense. But offensively, all season, they have
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  Speaker 1: been bad. Tonight was an utter embarrassment. Really for us.
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  Speaker 1: Those of us that give our time, which is the
• 6:47
  Speaker 1: most valuable thing any of us have in this world,
• 6:50
  Speaker 1: to watch the sport of football, to witness that. Listen,
• 6:56
  Speaker 1: Carson Wentz, there was a point in time during training camp,
• 7:01
  Speaker 1: during practice, I can't tell you how many text messages
• 7:05
  Speaker 1: I got from scouting buddies saying, What did he look
• 7:07
  Speaker 1: like in practice? At what point did Kevin O'Connell look
• 7:12
  Speaker 1: at his team and go, we got a chance to
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  Speaker 1: win this game? Didn't they all just see this guy practice?
• 7:19
  Speaker 1: Because he either has to be one of the biggest,
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  Speaker 1: you know, just the ability to function Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
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  Speaker 1: and then just turn into a pumpkin in the game
• 7:31
  Speaker 1: because that's about as bad of a game as you'll
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  Speaker 1: ever see. It honestly looked... like he forgot how to
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  Speaker 1: play football. His numbers tonight, 8 of 25. His interceptions
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  Speaker 1: were horrendous. His timing and rhythm were just completely off.
• 7:47
  Speaker 1: His incompletions were just air mails, just missing wide open guys.
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  Speaker 1: And then even when he had guys and his ball
• 7:55
  Speaker 1: was somewhat in the vicinity, it was still an extremely
• 7:58
  Speaker 1: difficult catch. And you can't convince me that the players
• 8:02
  Speaker 1: in that locker room, the defense, who were playing their
• 8:04
  Speaker 1: balls off, They have one of the most talented wide receivers.
• 8:07
  Speaker 1: They have an excellent tight end. They have a really
• 8:10
  Speaker 1: good number two wide receiver. These guys aren't just going
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  Speaker 1: to quit on you. These guys aren't going to revolt.
• 8:16
  Speaker 1: You're not going to have a mutiny. We're all human beings.
• 8:19
  Speaker 1: And we all eventually hit our breaking point. We all eventually,
• 8:23
  Speaker 1: I don't care what you do for a living. If
• 8:25
  Speaker 1: you are giving everything you have professionally to something and
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: there is something going on in whatever you do, that
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  Speaker 1: is above your pay grade, that is out of your hands,
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: that is hindering your ability to get anything done, early
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  Speaker 1: on you'll kind of keep quiet, especially if you're a
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  Speaker 1: good team player. And most people in the NFL are.
• 8:45
  Speaker 1: Especially good teams. And the Vikings, minus the quarterback, clearly
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  Speaker 1: a good team. People are trying to do the right thing.
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  Speaker 1: But we all have a moment in time where we go,
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  Speaker 1: I've had a fucking enough of this. No more. This
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  Speaker 1: cannot go on. Especially in a job like football that
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  Speaker 1: forces you to give so much energy, so much effort,
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  Speaker 1: so much time, and so much of your physical being
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  Speaker 1: to it where you're like, come on. You can't expect
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  Speaker 1: us to continue doing this if you don't try something.
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  Speaker 1: You have to attempt to make a move. Here's the problem.
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  Speaker 1: What are their moves? It's like, we'll trade for a quarterback.
• 9:31
  Speaker 1: You're going to trade for Daniel Jones. Have you seen
• 9:33
  Speaker 1: that contract? There's obviously a connection there. He's been on
• 9:37
  Speaker 1: the team before, so he knows the coach. I do
• 9:41
  Speaker 1: think that contract is so bad and so, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it just repels anyone. Even if you wanted to take
• 9:51
  Speaker 1: a flyer and going, we think we can get him
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  Speaker 1: to play better for us. I don't think it's possible.
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  Speaker 1: I really don't. So I'd argue that's even a non
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: well Mac Jones last year played pretty well for the
• 10:03
  Speaker 1: 49ers they got Brock Purdy the 49ers have to play
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  Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikings in a couple weeks then they would
• 10:09
  Speaker 1: potentially have to play him again in the playoffs so
• 10:12
  Speaker 1: it's like yeah we're not trading you Mac Jones it's
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  Speaker 1: like it'll cost you a one and a two We're
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  Speaker 1: not paying you a one and a two for Mac Jones. Okay,
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: have a great day. See you later. Then there is
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: kind of the elephant in the room, Kirk Cousins, who
• 10:27
  Speaker 1: the Raiders have been consistently saying, we are not going
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: to trade. We want Fernando Mendoza to sit, which is
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: clearly the messaging coming from Tom, who has a lot
• 10:39
  Speaker 1: of juice. And he said that from the beginning. Kubiak
• 10:43
  Speaker 1: reiterated that, and they have stood by that. And then
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: when Max Crosby was asked about his status, he goes, listen,
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: we're 4-5. We still got a chance. And he's not
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: totally wrong. They're still alive. And for the Raiders, winning
• 10:58
  Speaker 1: 8-9 games is a huge accomplishment. This is a team
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: that usually blows. Think about the last couple years. They
• 11:05
  Speaker 1: just drafted one. The year before, they drafted sixth. So
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: going 8-9 is a big deal for that franchise. Builds
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: a lot of momentum. And Cousins is basically... take in
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  Speaker 1: all the lumps so Fernando can learn and just kind
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: of prepare mentally so next year when their team is better,
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: they can insert him. But this is a business. And
• 11:25
  Speaker 1: we just saw what Howie Roseman did. Howie's greatest strength
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: is he will hang up on you. He will wait
• 11:32
  Speaker 1: till your most desperate moment and trade you a wide
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  Speaker 1: receiver who has a degenerative knee and get a first
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  Speaker 1: round pick back. Trade you a defensive lineman Who will
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: never make a Pro Bowl. And who has never made
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl. And get a first and a second
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  Speaker 1: round pick. So if you're the Raiders. And if you're
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: the Vikings. You need to be pretty aggressive in trying
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  Speaker 1: to do this. It's not like Kirk Cousins is just
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  Speaker 1: leading you to the promised land. But the way he's
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: played this year. Compared to Wentz. I mean today. Again.
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: You need to cut Carson Wentz. But even Kyler Murray.
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: He looks more closer to Joe Montana. It's like hey.
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  Speaker 1: We need a first round pick to give him. You're like, Middlecoff,
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  Speaker 1: first round pick. Yeah, we got the asset that you
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  Speaker 1: need and you're desperate because your team is just going
• 12:20
  Speaker 1: to quit on you. And here's the other thing, Kevin.
• 12:24
  Speaker 1: And I've been a Kevin O'Connell defender. But you were
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: the person that said you couldn't work with JJ. And
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: even I said, hey, personalities don't work, whatever. Well, then
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: he goes to the Giants. Seems like he's kind of
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: stabilized a little bit. And in a couple nights, he's
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: playing for that Giants team. And if they win the game,
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: which they're currently favored to win, and they probably will,
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden they're 6-2-1, and he's the starting
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: quarterback for a team. The Cowboys are playing the Niners
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: this week, probably a loss that feels destined to win
• 12:56
  Speaker 1: that division. honestly might cruise to that division. So J.J.
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: McCarthy would be in line to start a playoff game
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: for John Harbaugh. That makes you look worse and worse
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: and worse. So you can leak the stories, which we
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: all read and are fun. They're like, God, crazy personality,
• 13:14
  Speaker 1: didn't get along. That's all great. But in this profession,
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: you're judged on the field. And that was a guy
• 13:20
  Speaker 1: that you rubber-stamped. We got to have this guy on
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: the team. Well, no one gives a shit how much
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: of the offense he knows in the meeting room. No
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: one cares that he knows your offense on the whiteboard.
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: Coaches are obsessed with that crap. He really knows what
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: we want. He knows all the checks. He's like, he
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: thinks and speaks like me on the field. That's great.
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: Then the ball snapped. And he can't play dead in
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: the Western. And you get thoroughly embarrassed in front of
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: the entire country while your defense looks for moments and
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: throughout the season like they're the fucking 85 Bears. So
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: if you're Kevin O'Connell... There is a, I would say,
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: a burning desire to figure something out here in the
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: next 12 hours. Problem is you got a new GM.
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: And the new GM's thinking a little big picture. But
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: at the same time, he wants to try to win
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: as well. It goes on his resume if you win
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: the division, if you win a playoff game. That's where
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: it gets tough because the Raiders have been steadfast. We're
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: not giving this guy up. And if you look at
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: their schedule coming up, Hard game, hard game, hard game
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: on the road. They don't want to throw Fernando out
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: against games like at Denver, even at Cleveland. It's very,
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: very difficult. So when you look at the situation, you
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: got to blow them away. The Jags just did it.
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: They just made a trade that no other team in
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: the league would have made. Not one. I can, without
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: actually talking to every general manager in the league, I'm
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: extremely confident knowing no other team would have made that deal.
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: But they were extremely desperate for that position. And we're
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: just talking a defensive tackle. A guy to stop the run.
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: You're talking about a quarterback. So if you traded a
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: first round pick, which again, sounds crazy, but if that's
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: the only thing that's going to get the Raiders to budge,
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: If you end up going 11-6 or 12-5 and you
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: win a playoff game, which you easily could if your
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: quarterback is just competent because of your defense, all of
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: a sudden that pick is pick 26. And you have
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: him under contract next year. So I think that's really
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: their only option. It's like, what about Davis Mills? Well,
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: you don't know Davis Mills. And they plan on trying
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: to get the 7th seed. If they beat the Browns
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: this year, the Texans easily could be the 7th seed.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: They don't have a backup quarterback. So any playoff team
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: with a credible, solid backup quarterback is going to be
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: extremely hesitant slash just say no. The Raiders are the
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: only team and they've done a good job of saying
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: no and they should keep saying no and like, give
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: us your first round pick. Or like your second this
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: year and your first round next year. You want to
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: play ball, let's play ball. But that's what it costs.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: We saw the Jags do it and Howie Roseman just
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: fleeces people. The Raiders historically, back in the old days,
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: they used to get fleeced. The problem is the Vikings
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: are extremely desperate. And there are no options. What are
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: you going to do? I don't count the end of game,
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: the Bosmer kid coming in. That's not even football. The
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Bills knew they won. They were looking forward to getting
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: in the locker room, getting their Chick-fil-A and heading to
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: the plane. That doesn't count to me. But Wentz, that's
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: as bad as you'll ever see. And I wouldn't blame
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: any of these players if they all just like did
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: the Notre Dame Rudy where they all walk in and
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: throw their jersey down and essentially do that to the
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: front office and the coaching staff. Because this is an
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: indictment on Kevin O'Connell. That was extremely embarrassing. And he
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: bears that responsibility because he's the guy signing off on
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: that position. And so far the J.J. McCarthy thing has
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: been a short period of time has blown up in
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: his face. And his quarterbacks that he wanted to be
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: his one and a two are just terrible. I mean,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: we have seen backup quarterback. We've seen Drew Locke come
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: in and just function. He's not Joe Montana, but he
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: could just win you games, no problem. Good defense, run
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: the ball a little bit, and just play under control.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Carson Wentz couldn't complete an out route. I can't get
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: over what we all just witnessed. So I think there
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: is a lot of urgency on this franchise to do
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: something desperate. And if they don't, they're just going to
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: be stuck in the same position. And this is only
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: going to get worse. They're just not winning any more
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: games with their quarterback situation when they play good teams.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: They play the Packers this week. They will not win
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: that game. They play the 49ers in Mexico. They will
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: not win that game. They play the Lions. They will
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: not win that game. They play the Bears. They will
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: not win that game. So yeah, they could be the
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: commanders or the Panthers, I think we all agree no
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: one cares. Absolutely no one cares. Once they prove to
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: have one of the best units in recent memory, it's
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: like you're going to be judged against the good teams.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: And we see you against the good teams, it's like
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: at home where that place is doing skull and you're like, God,
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: we don't... I don't do a good enough job talking
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: about Seattle or Kansas City or, you know, the old
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Buffalo Stadium. The new one's been rocking. We'll see. It's
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: still got a little to put its stamp on like
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: this new era of the new stadium. That is an
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: elite environment. And when you factor in the dome and
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: the sound, that place was rocking tonight. And by the end,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: it was kind of sad. By the time they put
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: in the, they bench went, it was like half empty
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: and The faces on those people. It's like, God, this
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: is a proud, proud fan base. Living in Arizona now,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: I have so many people that are from the Minneapolis area.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Huge Vikings fans. I have so many conversations about the
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: NFC North. Because so many people in Arizona, Minnesota, Michigan, Chicago.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: The passion for those fan bases. That's why the Big
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Ten is so big. They love football. And that's tough
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: to stomach, man. That really is. So, to me, make
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: the Raiders an offer they can't refuse. Because I'll promise
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: if you try to just do a... We'll give you
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: a third and a fourth. They'll just hang up on you.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: And eventually, you got to get aggressive. Say what you
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: want about James Gladstone, but he knows his team has
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: a chance and he overpays for players. Specifically Jordan Davis,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: not Jesse Bates. That was a trade I would have
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: made too. And for the Bills, I don't even know
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: what you say. That's just a gritty, get in, get out,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: see ya, hand me my dinner, head to the plane, adios,
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: you guys have a good night. That's just a gritty, tough,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: gonna be ugly. Joe Brady said it at halftime. This
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: is gonna be ugly. It's gonna be hard to communicate.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: We got some new offensive linemen in there. Josh is
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: getting chased around by a bunch of fucking lions. I mean,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: this thing is a war zone. And when the dust settles,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: we win the game 23-6. That is a massive, massive win.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: And the thing about the Bills right now is they're
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: not going to face anything like that. Especially the next
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: couple weeks. They get the Jets and the Dolphins coming up.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: So there is a very, very good chance that this
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: team is 9-1. And then they have a pretty crazy stretch. Chiefs, Pats, Packers, Bears, Broncos.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: To me, if they go 3-2 in those games, they
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: finish with the Dolphins and Jets, you're looking at a
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: 14-3 team. And I think there's a pretty good chance,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: I think the Jags would be right there with you.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: 14-3 gets you the one seed. And Whether you get
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: the one or two seed, at minimum then, you're playing
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: a home, you know, you're not going on the road
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: if you got the two seed until the third round,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: which would probably be to Jacksonville where you just went
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: to win last year. And maybe Denver. I mean, that
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: Denver game's pretty big. So to me, the games that
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: you would feel you'd have to go all in for
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: would be the Chiefs game at home, Sunday night football,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: and the Broncos game in Netflix. And obviously the Pats.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: If you lost to the Packers and Bears, whatever. When
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: you talk about tiebreakers, the NFC, you want to focus
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: in on your divisional opponent. Patriots already beat them. And
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: then the two teams that are fighting for seating in
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: the AFC to give an L to the Chiefs and
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: the Broncos. But overall, you're not learning anything about the Bills'
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: defense tonight against that quarterback. And offensively, that's tough sledding
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: for Joe Montana, and Bill Walsh. I mean, that would
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: have been a tough game for Brady and the 07 Pats.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: So you make a couple plays, you get out healthy,
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: and you just move on. And now you go on
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: a stretch where you've got to take care of business
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: against the crappy teams, and then just go through that
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: five-game stretch and just try to go three and two
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: against the good teams. If you go four and one,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, you're looking at a lock, the number one seed,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: because you finish with the Jets and the Dolphins, or
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: maybe it's Dolphins and the Jets. But you've got to
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: take care of business. You're going to be massive favorites against...
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: in those four games in your division, and then the
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Patriot game that you owe them, and the Denver and
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Chiefs games are huge. And let's face it, they've beat
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: the Chiefs a lot in the regular season. They just
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: haven't been able to get over the hump. But playing
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: the home games are just so important when it comes
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: to January football. And last year, it's like they go
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: to the Jack. That was a tough game, the Denver game.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, obviously Josh was a little banged up, had
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: some dumb plays, but going to Denver, In the middle
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: of January, or I guess this year would be probably
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: a little later, like January 20th, 21st, 22nd range, that's hard.
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's a difficult– or Kansas City. So getting
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: that one seed to me should be the number one
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: goal for this team because clearly with the Patriots losing
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: some games, they're not winning the division. You don't have
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: to worry about that. It's all about seeding. And I
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: think the Bills are another team that if the right
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: opportunity at a certain position, you know, a DB– another
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: explosive playmaker on offense, they should be aggressive. Because your
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: time's now. You have this guy in the peak of
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: his powers. He's one of the truly great talents we've
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: ever seen in NFL history. You've got to pounce. Your
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: coach is swaggy. Your coach is good. Your defense just
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: has some personnel flaws. I just don't know. Your D-line's good.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: You can never have enough good defensive linemen, but to me,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: somewhere in the back seven. Could you trade for Zach Bond,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: is there a safety out there? Is there a DB
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: out there that you feel pretty confident? Could you overpay
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: a little bit? But for a team that, you know,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: is not always that aggressive, I would say this would
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: be a time to really sniff around and really enjoy
• 24:24
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• 24:28
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  Speaker 1: clearing organization. Let's dive into Howie and the Eagles day.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: But I didn't want to start. We'll start with the headliner.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: The Eagles and the Jags make a trade that no
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: one saw coming. Jordan Davis, who the Eagles once drafted
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: 13th overall, they gave a big extension to recently, traded
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: to the Jags for a first-round pick in 27 and
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: a second-round pick in 29. Now, he's never made a
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. He's never been an All-Pro player. He is
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: a run-stuffing defensive tackle. And this year, he currently is
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: top five in quote-unquote run-stuffs. He's a big, strong player
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: who can help clog the middle. The Jacksonville Jags just
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: lost their guy that was behind him on the list.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: I think Jordan is like 15 or 16. He was
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: like 10. So this is filling a need. But I
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: have been beating this drum for a while. that I
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: was lucky enough, I didn't even know him at the
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: time when I got hired for the Eagles. My first year,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: I was essentially like Howie's assistant. And I have known
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: him and obviously followed his career, worked for him for
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: 15 plus years. I feel like I know him pretty well.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: And all these people over the course of the last
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: couple weeks, the Eagles stink. They've lost seven straight games.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Their coaching staff is a disaster. Their Injury situation is worse.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Lane retires. They got problems. It's the NFL, really the
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: sport of football. Anything can happen in a given game.
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: But I do think it's on the table they don't
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: win another game. They are much more likely to go
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: like two and 15 than they are to win five
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: or six games. Now, if you were a betting man,
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: you'd say they'll probably end up with three wins, three,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: four wins. But this season is going to be a nightmare.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: I mean, this is a team that's made the playoffs
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: eight of nine years. They had a stretch where they
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: went to three Super Bowls over that period of time.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: They've had a lot of success. And this thing is
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: blowing up quickly in their face. Everyone's like, Howie's just
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: going to have a fire sale. I'm like, guys, have
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: you followed Howie's career? He's a value investor. He is
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: not Ed Dodds. You want DeForest Buckner for a fourth?
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: You want Quinton Nelson for a third? And if I
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: want to defend my bald brother with the interim GM
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: for the Colts, why does he give a shit? He's
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: going to get fired. The guys that he just traded,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: you know, especially Quentin Nelson and John Schneider, hey, I
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: might need a job. I'm not going to be hired
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: as the general manager moving forward. Whoever you hire is
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: surely going to fire me. So like, yeah, I'll do
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: what's in the best interest of myself and the team. Now,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: who's to say that they could have gotten much better
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: offers for either player, but little suspect, but also kind
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: of like, yeah, that happens sometimes. This notion that Howie
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: was going to be like, who wants my players? Just
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: give me some fourth and fifth round picks. Have you
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: watched this guy operate? Jordan Davis, who again, solid starting player.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Not playing well this year, but if you get him
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: in the right position, situation around other talented players, when
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: things are going well, he's an additive. This is not
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Aaron Donald in his prime. This isn't Jeffrey Simmons. But
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: this notion that you were going to be able to
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: pluck off Eagles for cheap, it's like back in 08
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: and 09 when everything was foreclosing and you could buy
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: real estate for pennies on the dollar. That was not
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: going to be the Eagles roster because that's not how
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Howie rolls. even though he tries to do that to
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: other teams, he does not give his play. Cam Juergens,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: who was having an awful season, he got a second
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: round pick in 2028 for him, which is still one
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: of the most insane trades in recent memory. That was crazy.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Talk about desperation. So who does he prey on? He
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: preys on the desperate. So the Jags, like the Jesse
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Bates trade, I love Jesse Bates. He could play for
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: my team, he could play for your team, he could
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: play for all the teams, every day of the week
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: and twice on Sundays. He is an impact player. Now,
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: he's gonna be a free agent. So when you trade
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: a second round pick, the best possible comp pick you
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: can get back for a guy if he leaves you
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: in free agency, depending on how much you spend, is
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: a third-round pick. That's why you see a lot of
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: teams trade for good players with third- and fourth-round picks,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: because they can recoup that if that guy has success
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: and then gets broken off in the offseason. Once you
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: get to that second-round range, this better go well. But
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: he's a plug-and-play, high-end, love that guy. Been a huge
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: fan since he played for the Bengals. Baller. You got
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: to overpay a little bit, but you're getting a plug-and-play
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: impact guy who's proven on a resume to be one
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: of the best players in his position. That is not
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: necessarily Jordan Davis. So you get the Jags who are
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: extremely desperate for this position. What's the most valuable words
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: in a negotiation? Nope. No. We're good. Nah, it's not
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: going to cut it. No deal. Nope. I would imagine
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: how he said no several times. Because he just got a... Again,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: he drafted this guy 13th overall. He is not playing
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: that well right now. He also makes a lot of money.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: And he got a first round pick this upcoming year.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: On top of the second round pick in several years,
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: which time value money is not viewed as a true
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: second round pick. But it also is a huge variable. Like,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: what if you have a disastrous season? The Commanders, when
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: they traded for Jeremy Tunzel, that pick ended up being
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: a top 40 pick for the Houston Texans. So there's
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: a huge variance with the future picks. That's why they're
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: not valued the same as right now. Now you could
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: also go, that pick for the Jags is clearly going
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: to be somewhere between 25 and 32. 100%. Is there
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: another team in the league that was offering that for
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Jordan Davis? No chance. And I'm not against what the
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Jags are doing. Their time is now. They have a
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: quarterback playing the best football of his life. They have
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: Parker Washington who looks like JSN. They have a team
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: that just clearly has a lot of chemistry, a lot
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: of cohesion. They can run the ball. They're physical. Their
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: division sucks. I think two of their next three games
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: are against the Titans. This is a team that's going
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: to win minimum 12 games with a chance to win
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: 14 and be the one seed. So I'm all for
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: chips in the middle of the table, take a swing.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Because I would say as any successful person would hammer
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: home When you have an advantage, double down. And their
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: biggest advantage right now is clearly the schedule and just
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: how good they are. I mean, their advantage is literally
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: their team. So I'm all for it. And their general manager,
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: this hotshot young guy, worked for less need, F them picks. Which,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: you win a Super Bowl, you never apologize for giving
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: away first round picks. And at the end of the day,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: draft picks, as long as you keep winning, and you
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: should with Trevor Lawrence, the way he's playing, as long
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: as your head coach stays, which this is not college football,
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: he's not going anywhere, totally get it. But this is
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: an overpay. Like, this is a dramatic overpay. And the
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: majority of players in the NFL, the overwhelming majority, are
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: on the table for the right price. And this is
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: one of the, this is like Cam Juergens. Like, we
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: traded Cam Juergens? Oh yeah, we got a second round pick.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh. No brainer. And that's just a pretty
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: basic trade. Wait, you just got a first and a
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: future second round pick for Jordan Davis? Have you watched
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: the Eagles play defense lately? They've been atrocious this year.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: He's a run stuffer in a pass-heavy league. Now, you
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: could argue in the AFC playoffs, you know, Denver definitely
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: wants to run the ball. Obviously, Kansas City, their offense
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: is very predicated on running the ball. Even the Bills
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: with Josh Allen. I'm recording this before the Monday night game,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: but One of their best players is a running back.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: So it's a run-heavy conference. I mean, the best teams,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: the Bengals are one of the rare ones that pass
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: it nonstop. But, you know, even the Steelers this year
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: have kind of made big strides. Why? Because of their
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: running back. So I'm never against, like, impacting that portion
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: of your team. But you didn't get this guy for
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: 80 cents on the dollar. You know, I mean, you
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: paid a premium for an above average player when he's right.
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Ryan Poles paid a premium for an elite player, arguably
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: a top two or three defensive lineman in the league,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: let alone defensive tackle. That's where I think you get
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: in a little trouble. And big picture doing stuff like this.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Jesse Bates, no brainer. Every coach in the league would
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: want Jesse Bates on their team. Jordan Davis? How many
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: other front offices around the league? And this is not
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: like they could easily win the Super Bowl this year.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: And you might not really notice that Jordan Davis that much.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: So my question is, when you get desperate for a
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: position and you're going to overpay, one thing with the Rams,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: who have they gone after? The elites. Miles Garrett. Matt Stafford.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: This offseason, now it turns out his knee doesn't work,
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: but A.J. Brown, who over the course of four years
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: had 5,000 yards. Devontae Adams. Jordan Davis is not in that.
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey. They have taken huge swings for the best
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: in the business. Even Trent McDuffie, who had been a
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: high-end player on a Super Bowl team. Pro bowler. So
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of risk here. And this is... The
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: one thing the Eagles will do, if you hit a
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: certain threshold, everyone's always available. And until they get their
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: version of like Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, which now they
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: have 10 picks in the top two rounds over the
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: next three years. Two first this year, two first the
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: following year with two seconds, two first, or excuse me,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: a first and multiple seconds the following year. I mean,
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: they are Loaded with draft picks. It gives you optionality.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: Because at the end of the day, draft capital, those
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: picks will eventually be players. So we're going to know
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: you either got it right or you got it wrong.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: That guy was worth the pick. That guy wasn't worth
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: the pick. Because the Packers are a good example. We'll
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: give you two first-round picks for Micah Parsons. Well, if
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: Micah played like he did up until he got injured
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: and maintains that when he gets back, they're gladly doing
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: that deal. And then the Cowboys, to live up to it,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: it's like, well, your defense still stinks, and who did
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: you use that draft capital on? What do those players
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: look like? So you can judge how he had five
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: years who he used the picks on, or Does he
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: use those picks to package a portion of them to
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: get up and get the right quarterback that he wants?
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: And try to get his? Because at the end of
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: the day, Jalen, I don't want to call it lucky
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: because it was a bold move when they took him
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: in the second round. But anytime you take a second
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: round quarterback, you don't expect that guy just to become
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: your franchise quarterback. There's an element of luck there. But
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: once upon a time, they went all in for Carson Wentz.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: And that ended up blowing up in their face. But historically,
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: they also drafted Donovan McNabb a long time ago. And
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: that helped change the franchise. And put the Eagles and
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: Andy Reid on the map. For years, winning a lot
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: of games. And I would imagine now they have their
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: sights set on that. But Jalen Hurts, and listen, depending
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: on who else gets traded on the Eagles, this is
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: not a fire sale. This is, we stink. If you're
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: going to blow me away, I'm always open for business. Why?
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Because I'm a fucking businessman. And if you're going to
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: pay way more than a player's worth, I will drive
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: that guy to the airport. Well, actually, I'll have Dom
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: or a guy like 25-year-old Middlecoff take that guy in
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: the team suburban. But we will make a trade. But
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: if you think you're just getting Zach Bond for like
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: a conditional fifth, you're higher than one of those crackheads
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: in the big city. So let's everyone pump the brakes
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: and just go, this is good business. Because that's what
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: he did. At the end of the day, as a
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: general manager, his greatest attribute is the value. He's a
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: big value guy. It's why he's been so good drafting
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: historically because he has a good feel for who's going
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: to be where and when so it's not often he's
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: taking a guy and this is the key in any
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: good GM you're not always going to get it right
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: sometimes you think a guy's going to be in their
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: second round he goes pick 20 but you don't if
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: you don't know where guys' value is in the draft,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: and you draft and pick 25, and you're like, this
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: guy was going to be there in the third round,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: you're bad at your job. And I'd argue it's his
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: greatest attribute, is understanding the price point on players. And
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: the Jags, they get into this mode because they come
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: from the Rams, when they get obsessed with a deal,
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: they're willing to buy a million dollar house and give
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: you $ 1. 8 million. And listen, if they end up living
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: in it for five years and who cares in their,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: their income quadruples, it's like, ah, don't even notice it.
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: There's some truth to that. But what if things change
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: and you just never know? So I, why admire it?
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: I think the Jordan Davis trade is, is a little nuts. Uh,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Puka Nakua turns out he has a sprained knee and
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: is going to go on short-term IR. I think we
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: can officially say the Rams' playoff hopes are in serious jeopardy.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: Because I did the math. Puka Nakua has accounted for 27%
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: of Matt Stafford's throws. But he's missed two of the games.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: against Washington, a team that is probably going to end
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: up with four or five wins. He almost accounted for 45%
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: of the targets of the ball leaving Matt Stafford's hand.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: With Devontae Adams out for who knows how long, he's
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: really their only credible wide receiver. And here's the thing.
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: The NFC North, all four teams could win double-digit games.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: The 49ers are clearly going to win double-digit games. And
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: them and Seattle have the same exact record and they
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: haven't played So on top of them having in a
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: couple weeks having to play the Packers, who clearly could score.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: So unless Myles Garrett can get you six, seven sacks
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: a game and you can just run for 180 yards
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: a game, you're going to have some problems. I would
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: say if Puka was healthy, I'd be like, this team's
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: going to be tough to deal with. I wouldn't bet
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: against them getting back in the mix. I'm out. They
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: play the Cardinals, okay. But when you look at their
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: schedule over the next couple weeks... I'm sorry, I am
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: just not confident at all this thing is going to work. Packers, Chiefs, 49ers.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Those games were going to be hard to begin with.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: But if I remove one of the best players in
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: the NFL, I'm by no means a fantasy expert. I
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: sneaky kind of hate it. Except when I draft a
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: guy like Puka at number two and every single week
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: he's just, what's he doing? Look up, catch, catch, catch, touchdown, catch, catch, catch.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: It's like, this guy's a badass. How his game was
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: going to age over the next five years, who knows?
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: It's football. Guys get injured, he clearly has been banged up.
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: But right now, when healthy, nobody's covering him. And without Devontae,
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: who's one of the best red zone targets in the league,
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: you remove those two guys, Godspeed, Matt. Because the other
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: elephant in the room with this situation is, Matt's looked
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: a little old. You know why? He is old. And
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: unlike Rodgers, who's a better athlete than Stafford, Rodgers, who
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: does not move anywhere near what he once did, still
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: moves better than him. You watch Stafford in some of
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: these inclement weather games, I don't know. I just think
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: that how he's going to carry you for some of
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: these Packers, Chiefs, 49ers. That's a tough slate. Currently, if
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: the playoffs started today, the Rams would not be in it.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: I would bet against them making the playoffs right now.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: There's no way around it. That's pretty devastating. I've been
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: beating this drum for a while. It's not even if
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: the playoffs started today. There is going to be a
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: playoff team. Because the South has to have a winner, right?
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: And more than likely, the Carolina Panthers currently lead the
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: division at 3-5. 3-5 the Saints and 3-6 the Tampa
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Bay Buccaneers. I think it's fair to assume eight wins 100%
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: wins the division. And more than likely, there's a multiple
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: place tie for 7-10. They are going to be the
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: fourth seed. And they are going to host a team
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: More than likely, the Packers... It's probably going to be
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: the Packers or the Bears, one of those two teams,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: potentially the Lions or the Vikings. I mean, who knows?
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: It's going to be one of the NFC North teams
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: with 12-ish wins. There could be a five-win difference between
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: the team going on the road and the team hosting it.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: We got to change this. I'm even willing to say, hey...
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: Divisions have to mean something. Everything is cyclical. This division
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: is currently down. We had a period of time when
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: Drew Brees was there. Cam Newton was there. Matt Ryan
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: was there. You had Super Bowl teams. You had MVPs. Yeah,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: so it's been better. There is no arguing that. Same
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: thing with the AFC South. It used to be Peyton
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Manning was there forever. Titans with Steve McNair. Things go
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: up and down. But right now, this division is really,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: really down. And you should not get the benefit of
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: the doubt to host a playoff game when you are
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: under 500. I think it's a pretty easy fix. Rule
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: in the offseason, if you are under 500 and win
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: your division, you automatically get just ranked out of the
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: playoff teams, which I would imagine most years, you are
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: going to be the seventh seed. So then you have
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: to go on the road and play the two seed.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: And then everything just bumps up. So if I'm the
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: Packers or the Bears or the Lions or if Seattle
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: wins like seven straight games and I've gone 12-5 and
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: I'm the 5 seed, I bump up to the 4
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: seed and get to host the division. You know, or
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: get to host a playoff game. Who would argue over that? Like,
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: is there arguments anywhere? Like, I don't understand the arguments.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: I did a pod earlier with Colin and the 2014 playoff.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Are people arguing that the non-Power 4 teams like the
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: Boise States, the JMUs, deserve a seat at the table?
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Don't most normal people, because I saw a poll where
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: they polled the coaches in the power, or the non-power six. Fuck,
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: it always confuses me. But we got the power four
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: and the group of six. And the majority of their
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: coaches said, we should get our own playoffs. No shit. Like,
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, San Diego State and New Mexico shouldn't have
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: to play Bama, Georgia, and Oregon. What are we talking about?
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: Of course they should have their own playoffs. Just like
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: the 1AA has their own playoffs, and the Power 4
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: has their own playoffs. Is this an argument? I've said forever,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: the college teams, everyone should play each other that is
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: on your level. Now, it doesn't mean Ohio State has
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: to play Texas, Georgia, and Miami every single year. But like, yeah,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: maybe instead of playing some joke team from the group
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: of six, you just play like Kansas State. You play Arizona.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: You play Arizona State. I don't know. And you just
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: do some rotating schedule. But everyone that's on your level,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: you keep that money under the same umbrella and you
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: work together. where I don't understand how they have these
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: owners meetings and no one has raised their hand, especially
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: with the credible franchises. Like if you're the Niners, Seattle,
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: and the Rams, and you have a season like last
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: year where you're all winning a bunch of games, and
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: then you're the Rams, you have to go on the
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: road to a team that just went 8-9. It's 3,000
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: miles away. It's a three-hour time difference. You're like, we
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: have nothing in common with this team. We blew some
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: games down the stretch and we still won four more
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: games than them. How does that make any logical sense?
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: To me, it's baffling. I would say it's anti-competitive. It's
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: anti the goal of what we're looking to do. The
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: best teams make the playoffs. Yet, if you play in
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: a division which couldn't be any more down right now
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: than the NFC South, you get to 8-9, you get a...
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: You don't even need to travel the first weekend of
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: the playoffs. Think of what a benefit that is. I mean,
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: the Panthers gave the Rams a game last year, and
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: the Rams were a play or two away from being
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl, and clearly they would have won it.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: Speaking of the Patriots, man, we got Rossini coming out
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: with the People's Magazine article. My advice, if I was her...
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: if I was her PR guy, I'd say, listen, you're
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: never going to keep everyone happy on the internet. The
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: internet is a cruel place. Sometimes I get DMs that
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: I'm like... I've started to laugh. You're just like, God,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: is this guy that angry? But I heard... the replies
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: and the comments are going to be really ugly. That's
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: just the reality of the situation. But if you think
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: you can pretend nothing happened and just go through it,
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: you'll never live that down. You won't be able to
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: shake that. So the puff piece that was in People Magazine,
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, I'm not like,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: you don't need to, journalists are like the journalistic integrity.
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: The average person doesn't give a shit about that. But
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: no one can take you seriously if you not only
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: don't address it, but pretend nothing happened. Most of us
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: are adults. We understand people have sex with each other. Hell,
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: Jensen Wang was just banging a spy. I just read
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: that it would be the most expensive divorce in the
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: history of the world. It would blow Bezos' divorce out
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: of the water. There's only one undefeated team in world history.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: And Jensen just lost to it. So did Vrabel and Rossini.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: But I'm sorry we're human beings. I'm married. Right? And
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: so when I read that, like, hey, stood by your side,
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: I think people just don't understand that. Because while there
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: is a percentage of people that just do weird shit,
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: they get to have sex with their friends, they live
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: in this weird world with relationships, I do feel pretty
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: confident saying most of us do not. Most of us
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: have the general framework of like, yeah, we couldn't just
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: be begging someone for six years and it being pretty
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: public and getting caught red-handed and then try to play
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: that down with our spouse and everything just moves forward
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: and we're going to stick together as a family. That
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: would not happen for any of us, any people that
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: I know. I'm not saying that everyone leads perfect lives.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: and colors inside the lines of what you're supposed to
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: do in a relationship. But in these situations, I've seen
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: people get divorced for way less. So people, I think,
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: are fascinated. How did you guys get through this? How
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: is that possible? How can you still be in a relationship?
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: I just think people are fascinated. I know that's what
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: I am. Like, wait, how does this work? My husband's
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: just cool with it? Because if that had happened to me,
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: just like if it had happened to basically any dude
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: I know, at the level and at the... In terms
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: of how public the situation was, I don't know anyone
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: that could shake that. And again, we're human beings. How...
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell they're telling you in therapy.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: You just want me to forget this? I just don't
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: see it possible. So, I don't care. Like, I was
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: never one of those people, like, she can't. The athletic, like,
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: shut the fuck up. The sports fans, the consumer dictates this. Like,
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: whether your stuff's interesting, they'll consume you. You know, it's like,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: the media is such a hard issue sometimes with, do
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: you guys know who dictates all these terms? The consumer.
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: It's like, Jeff Bezos killed the sports section. No, people
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: like John Middlecoff did. The guys, you know, that used
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: to read newspapers their entire life and now no longer
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: do because they don't need to. They get it from
• 53:13
  Speaker 1: other sources. They did. So if our stuff's good, people
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: will like it. But I do think you just avoiding
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: the topic, which it does feel, based on the article
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: that I read today, an all-time fluff puff piece, We're
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: not having some open book on what was going down.
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: I'm not expecting that. And I do think it's hard.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: Like I think sometimes public apologies for if you tweet
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: something stupid and don't get me wrong. I may have
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: had to do it before when I worked in corporate world,
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: but it's also who's this for? Like who would I
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: actually apologize if something happened in the real world? and
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: you felt obligated, like, hey, man, I'm sorry. I didn't
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: mean to do that, right? You do it to your
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: family all the time. You do it probably to your
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: friends or maybe people in working situations. But just to
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: my followers. Like, what are we talking about? I've never
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: believed she owed any explanation, like some Twitter post. But
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: if you are going to be in this medium, which
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: is very, very intimate, I feel very fortunate. Like, I
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: work in this profession that is pretty unique about a
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: relationship I have with people that I don't even know...
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: but then if I ever meet them in real life...
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: they feel very... like their relationship toward me is... pretty
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: powerful because... I mean they just listen to me all
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: the time. I feel the same way to anyone I
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: listen to. I know this guy pretty well. It's the
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: power of audio. You can have a face for radio
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: like myself and... be successful. But the one thing that
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: doesn't play anymore... Because this world's not about professionals anymore.
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: It's about personalities. And what draws people to other people
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: is authenticity. It's why I like Call Her Daddy. I
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: don't listen to the new version of Alex. But the
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: original version that shot like a rocket ship overnight was...
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: I've been listening to radio and podcasts and just things
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: my entire life. Never heard anything like it. And it
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: was pretty clear to me. I don't pretend to be
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: some audio scout. It was like, uh, Alex, the star,
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: the other chick is easily replaceable. And then everything that
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: went down, she fumbled the bag. Alex took off like
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: a rocket ship. Alex didn't skip a beat and no
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: one's heard of this chick. And she just wrote a memoir.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: It's like, you're 28 years old. No one gives a
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: shit what you have to say. I'm sorry. And you
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: give stories. It's not going to matter. You played your hand.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: You thought you had pocket aces, and you flipped it over,
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: and you had a two and a four. Head home, homie.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: This thing's over for you. Sucks, but it's on you.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, she wasn't talented
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: enough to overcome a devastating mistake. If the roles had
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: been reversed, I think Alex Cooper would have been fine
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: because she was just the talent behind the operation. But
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, the stuff they were
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: talking about was so raw and real. But it was
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: real life. It's what people talk about. Maybe not publicly.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: It's like what Howard Stern had going for him back
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: in the day. And being on the West Coast, not
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: like I ever heard him before the movie came out,
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: Private Parts. But in his heyday, he would just say things,
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: do things that no one else, no topics would be
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: broached anywhere else. But you can't have these things like, yeah,
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: we're just hanging out with them. We're just platonic friends. Like,
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: come on, we're fucking human beings. Just be normal. Honestly,
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: come out with the truth or else I promise you
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: it's going to get worse. No one will take you seriously.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: You don't need to apologize to anybody. I don't know
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: what the PR, like, apologize or just move past it. No, just,
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: but you can't just pretend something didn't happen when it did. Okay,
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: let me tell you about my friends at SeatGeek. Do
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: you want to go to a concert? Do you want
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: to go to a game? You want to go to
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: a football game, college or pro? I've always wanted to
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: go to an SEC game. I guess technically a couple
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: years ago I went to one, Texas, Oklahoma. I don't
• 57:31
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• 57:34
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• 58:34
  Speaker 1: He's at the age now where he climbs up on
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: a lot of things. So, like, he can't walk, though
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: he can do some steps if he's standing up against
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: the couch. Well, like most people, you have your living room.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: You usually have some couch set up and then some
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: sort of coffee table. Ideally, where you can put your
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: feet up. You know, your wife might yell at you
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: to put your feet off. But, you know, just put
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: your feet up, put your drink there. You have a
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: little aesthetic, you know, on it. And... I've never really
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: thought about it. It's relatively close. Obviously, you can walk between. it,
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: but it's close enough where you can reach to it.
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: He was on the couch, which is right next to
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: the coffee table. So he was like the middle of
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: the couch. The coffee table was right behind him. And
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: she was pumping his food. So I'm tasked with... And
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: he's at the age now where when you watch him...
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: you can't really not pay attention for less than a
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: couple seconds because he could be in another room crawling.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: He could be trying to eat the dog. He could
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: just cause mischief at the drop of a hat. And
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: he's getting pretty bold with standing up and moving around
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: while he's standing up and trying to crawl on the couch.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: He's still a little ways away from that. But I
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: was on the other side of the couch. He was pumping.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: He was looking at her. They were kind of talking
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: back and forth. And all of a sudden, he kind
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: of tried. She kind of looked away. And I was
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: looking at him, going to walk around and kind of
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: grab him. And as I'm kind of coming toward him,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: he tries a ninja warrior move. Where, you know, if
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: you've ever seen that show and they're like jumping around.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: He looks at the coffee table. He realizes he's not
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: long enough to get to the coffee table. But he
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: knows that he's close enough that if he just kind
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: of sways his weight, puts his arm out. He'll kind
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: of land on top of the coffee table and be
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: able to continue his stand. The problem was, is his
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: sense of space is a little off. And he had
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: a little bit longer to go, and he doesn't have
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: the balance to maintain the move. So like a lot
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: of the people on the Ninja Warrior show, they take
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: just some crazy falls and spills, right? They start bouncing
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: off things, land on their head, bounce back, fall in
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: the water, fall into the... You know, the fluffy things
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: that you can land on on stunts. So he goes
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: for the coffee table. As he's going, I think he
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: either trips, his leg gives out, or he just doesn't
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: know how to walk. He goes head first. Now, this
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: is a circular coffee table. It's not hard end. It's
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: actually pretty soft, kind of hollow. But the viciousness of
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: the hit looked like Ronnie Lott hitting a wide receiver
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: over the middle in 1986. He hits the coffee table.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: As his head bounces off the coffee table, he does
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: like a 180 as he's going down to the ground.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: I see his eyes looking at me, falling backward. And
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: I'm thinking, is he going to die right now? He
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: hits the ground. Again, multiple potential concussions. If this would
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: have been an NFL game, the independent neurologist would have
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: yanked him out of the game. Hits the ground. He
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: kind of smiles at first because the one thing with
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: a baby... they, I'm fascinated to know what the actual
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: pain feels like inside. Maybe there's kind of numb to it.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: He kind of looks at me, but then he realizes
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: that the impact of everything, it's time to cry. And
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: then that thing just goes zero to a hundred in immediately.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: And the key is you grab them completely fine. You
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: bounce them around a little bit, you smile. And then within,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: I would say under 30 seconds, he's smiling again, not crying.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: But the violence of the hit, 180 to the ground,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: and it happens fast. I was like, whoa, you got
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: to stay on this little man. Because at any moment,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: he could just, anything is on the table. I have
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: never been around anything, because I've never really watched little kids,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: but dogs, dogs. Anything in my life that you just
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: have to spend so much time of just monitoring. 24-7,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: 365 when they're in this little phase. Which is fun.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: Keeps you moving. Keeps you burning some calories. But he
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: survived it. Okay, let's do a couple quick mailbag questions.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: This is from Andre Swanson. With Sam Darnold's turnover issues
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: seemingly making a comeback, do you think Schneider looks to
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: draft a high upside quarterback in 27? They took Milrow
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: in the third round. Do they continue to develop him
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: or reset at the position? I think they're going to
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: roll this back. I mean, Sam Darnold and I would
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: imagine Drew Locke are going to be on this team
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: next year. I don't know about Milrow's development. I mean,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: They clearly don't feel that Jalen Milrow is ready to
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: play in these games. And I understand Drew locks your
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: back up, but he was dealing with his injury. I
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: saw Mike, Sam Darnold out again this week, and Mike
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: said that Drew is banged up still. They do not
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: want to start Jalen Milrow. And part of it is
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: they want to go to the playoffs. And any time
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: you start an unproven guy that had major accuracy issues
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: in college, even if he's doing well in practice, I
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: bet Joe Fagagno, I can never say that guy's name, But,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, I bet he was decent at practice in
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: the little reps that he got. And then he gets
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: to the game and he's unplayable. Now, Jalen Milrow, that
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: guy's coming from UConn. Milrow's coming from Alabama. He'd be
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: a little more comfortable in theory under the bright lights.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: But I think their actions show you everything you need
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: to know about Jalen Milrow. The thing is, if they...
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, if they win 11 games and are in
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: the playoffs, I mean, who would they play where they
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: would be that big of an underdog? Like, if they
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: were the sixth seed at 11-7, or the seventh seed,
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: and they were playing the Bears, the Packers, seventh seed's
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: probably going to have a tough draw. To me, the
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: seed you would want would obviously be the five seed,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: but even the sixth seed, you're probably getting the Giants.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: which J.J. McCarthy. So getting J.J. McCarthy or one of
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: the South teams is dramatically different than whoever you get
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: as the 2-7. 2-7 is going to be a hard
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: game because that team is going to have won a
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: lot of games. I'm wondering, so my guess is they
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: keep building the team. You know, you never say never,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: but drafting a pick 24... I have a hard time
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: seeing it. I'm wondering what you would do if you
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: were the Falcons. When Penix plays well, you can see
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: the potential, but he doesn't play well often. Have you
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: seen enough? Would you move on? They got housed. I mean,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: they got fucking worked on Sunday morning. Now, granted, I mean, Burrow, Higgins,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: and Chase right now are on one. So that's a
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: tough team to play. But, Something about Pennix. I mean,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: the pick he threw was at the end of the game.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: How many picks did he throw, actually? I kind of
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: zoned out in the middle of that thing. Let's see.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: The Atlanta Falcons, who are dead last at 3-6. What
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: was the final score of that thing? 34-17. It was
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: actually kind of close for a minute. Pennix just had
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: the one pick. He also could have thrown. A guy
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: dropped it, but it was all in the last drive.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: It pains me to say this because I did like
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: him coming out, and I got a lot of pushback
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: from my buddies who didn't think he was a first.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: He's probably below average. Can't move. If everything's not perfect,
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: he's a below average player. And it's pretty hard to
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: function with below average players at quarterback. He's closer to
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: Desmond Ritter than he was Matt Ryan. Earlier this week,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: you said that Notre Dame always loses big games and
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: their schedule is a joke. I have some pushback. Freeman
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: is now 4-1 against top five teams with wins against
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: A & M, Georgia, Penn State, Indiana, and now Miami.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: Maybe the view of, quote, can't win big games is
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: more the Brian Kelly era. That is fair. I mean,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: because a couple years ago, right, they had beat A & M,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: They beat Indiana, they beat Georgia, and they beat Penn
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: State in the playoff run. And didn't they beat Georgia
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: in New Orleans? So that's probably a Georgia home game
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: looking back. That's a tough place to play. The Indiana game,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, Indiana was... Notre Dame was way better. I mean,
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: Indiana was probably historically the 20th best team in the country.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: I know they made the playoffs, but their schedule sucked.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: I'm not trying to diminish, but I think I was
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: definitely being prisoner of the moment. Last year, they lost
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: to Miami. Last year, they lost to A & M.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: Two playoff teams. One team went to the title. And,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, even Miami and A & M in the playoff,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: they played each other in that win game, and it was...
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: Wasn't it like 3-0 in the fourth quarter? So, I mean,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: A & M was good. The two good teams they
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: played last year, they lost to. And then this year,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: they lost to BYU. So, I... More prisoner of the
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: moment because just a couple years ago, Notre Dame was
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: in the title game. That's fair. I'm not anti-Marcus Freeman. Like,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: to me, the thing I respect about Marcus Freeman, it's
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: why I'm critical of Lane. It's like, Lane, the Circus Act,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: if you're not going to win any of these big games,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: you've got to pump the brakes. Like, just be a
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: coach for a minute. LSU sells itself. Nick Saban didn't
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: need a Circus Act at Alabama. Kirby ain't run a
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: Circus Act at Georgia. You don't need to do this.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: Ryan Day's not running one at Ohio State. Just do
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: everything you can to try to win. so and marcus
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: does and and unlike those guys like they do have
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: academic disadvantages for guys getting into school it was a
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: it was a big win and they were up 24
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: to 3 they were kicking their ass um I mean,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: you would think at 11-1, is Notre Dame going to
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: be a top four seed? Could they be the fifth
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: seed in the playoffs? Because they started at 11. They're
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: going to win out. I do wonder if the college
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: football committee is going to want them to host a
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: game that would be like Notre Dame against Boise State,
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: which sneaky wouldn't be easy. If I had to guess
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: right now, I guess there could be a lot of chaos.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: Georgia's for sure getting one of the top four seeds.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: Utah currently, if they ran the table, would get one
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: of the top four seeds. If Miami wins out and
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: wins the conference, they would get one of the top
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: four seeds. So maybe Notre Dame could make the argument
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: that they'd have to get one of the top four
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: seeds too. But then whoever wins the Big Ten, like
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: if Indiana were to win the Big Ten, wouldn't they
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: get one of the top four seeds? There is a
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: chance because of the conferences– even though you beat Miami,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: you not playing in the conference, that they put Notre
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: Dame at the five seed, which means they get a
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: home game, which to me is pretty cool. I like
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: the home games at Notre Dame. Lifelong Vikings fan here
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: from Fargo, North Dakota. Question for the pod. That was
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: a terrible accent by me. Obviously, Kyler Murray, the experiment
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: has failed, and it will not fix our quarterback problems.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: My question is this. Even if they were to lose out,
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: they will not have a high enough pick in next
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: year's draft to have a shot at a legitimate franchise quarterback,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: if this class even yields one. Where do we go
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: from here? Just good enough to compete for the playoffs,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: but not good enough to make deep runs due to
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: lackluster quarterback performance. It's maddening, and a pain I could
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: confidently say most Vikings fans feel. Side note, love the
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: Dead Diaries, always gives me a laugh. I experienced much
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: of the same. My daughter is now 11. I'm recording
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: this part before the game, but obviously Carson Wentz is
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: starting the game, so that does nothing to change the conversation.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: I think sometimes, like, every team thinks that they're going
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: to find their Mahomes or their Josh Allen. Sometimes you
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: got to get lucky. Or Joe Burrow. Yeah, Joe Burrow
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: is the first overall pick. Jared Goff was the first,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: Stafford was the first overall pick. Lamar Jackson was not
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: even the first pick of his own team in that draft.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: Went 32nd. Jalen Hurts, who obviously has not been ideal,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: but for a little period of time there, was having
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: a lot of success, went in the second round. Dak
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: Prescott's going to make $ 700 million play quarterback, went in
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: the fourth round. Purdy was the last pick in the
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: seventh round. So sometimes you can just strike gold. Now,
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: it's not necessarily a plan of attack. Let's hope to
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: strike gold in one of the random rounds after the first,
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: but it does happen a lot. When you got Cousins,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: it was because Washington didn't think he was good enough
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: to keep because they had drafted him in the mid-rounds
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 1: and they didn't view him like one of the elites.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: Then he came to you and was really good. Is
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: he perfect? No, but you would gladly have 30-year-old or
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: 28-year-old Kirk Cousins. So I think... The thing about the
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: NFL is there are always opportunities. And if you scout
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: well enough, if you coach well enough, if you make
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: good enough trades, you're going to have opportunities to fill
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: that spot. Who would have thought the year you signed
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: Sam Darnold that he would have thrown 35 picks, or
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: excuse me, not 35 picks, 35 touchdowns, and you guys
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: be in the playoffs in a game away from being
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: the one seed? I was watching the Raider-Niner game, and
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: they showed Jim Plunkett, who went to Stanford, was the
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy winner, was, I think, drafted, I could be
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: botching this, but number one overall to the 49ers. Was
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: Jim Plunkett the number one overall pick? I thought he was.
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: But he was a failure. And then he went to
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: the Raiders. He was the first overall pick, 1971. 1971. Oh,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: to the New England Patriots. I guess he played for
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: the Niners after the Patriots. But then he would go
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: on to be the starting quarterback for two Super Bowl teams.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: He was the NFL Comeback Player of the Year in 1980.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: The Raiders are a good example. Rich Cannon was a throwaway.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: All of a sudden won the NFL MVP. You could
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: make the argument that with quarterback... Quarterback inflation, these guys
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: are getting driven up in the draft for sure. But
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: also quarterback development being so hit or miss, you can
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 1: find guys who are struggling in other places. And it's
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: never been easier to play quarterback in the NFL. They
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: can hit you. They can hit your wide receivers. That
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: it is a big advantage for you to go, hey,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: we see a flaw here. Like the Kyler thing, they
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: were just desperate. But there are going to be other
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: Sam Darnolds out there. That will exist. Like Daniel Jones
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: could be cut and you could get him next year
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: for nothing. Now, I'm not saying Daniel Jones is Sam Darnold,
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: but with Kevin O'Connell, he probably would look better than
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: he is now with the weapons they have. Again, maybe not,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: but I'm just using examples. Look at Drew Locke. Five
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: years ago, he was a laughingstock. How many teams have
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: a better backup quarterback than Drew Locke? Drew Locke is
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: a high-end backup quarterback. I mean, Mac Jones got a
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: lot of credit last year. Drew Locke is way more
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: physically gifted than Mac. Can move better and can throw better.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: Mac Jones is a good example. Mac Jones was a joke.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, boom, 49ers get him,
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: Purdy gets turf toe, and they start rattling off wins
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: with Mac Jones. Now, I'm not saying those guys are
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: starting quarterbacks, but my point is that There's value out there.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: You just, you gotta look. And you gotta get lucky
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: and you gotta have the right coaches. But isn't that
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: kind of life? 26 years on this planet, and other
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: than the 13 Rose Bowl and the 15 CFP when
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: Bama whipped the floor with us, Michigan State football has
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: been hard to watch. Should I believe in the new
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: era of Pat Fitzgerald? I've worked with some people in
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: the NFL that worked at Northwestern with Pat Fitzgerald, and
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: I actually know a couple people also in the NFL
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: that I didn't work with but are friends of mine
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: that are Pat Fitzgerald guys. They swear by him. I mean,
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: he is a beloved figure to those that know him.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: I do think he's a little bit of an old
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: school guy. But the key to success now, to have
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: an opportunity to compete, like is Michigan State going to
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: give them a lot of money to buy players? And
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: does Pat know the type of players to buy? Because
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: at Northwestern, they dealt with kind of a unique type kid.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: A lot like Stanford. A lot historically like Vanderbilt. They
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: weren't fishing in the same ponds as Ohio State and
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: Penn State and Oregon. But if you're Michigan State and
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: you got the money, you can recruit the same kid.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: So I don't have a strong opinion. I don't follow
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: Michigan State football at all. But I thought Jonathan Smith
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: was a stud at Oregon State. And then he got
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: a lot of money and it was an epic failure.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: So fit matters. Jonathan Smith, it was a bad fit.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: Pat Fitzgerald at Michigan State is a much better fit.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: Knows the conference, knows the area, has recruited those states.
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  Speaker 1: But if I don't give you an enormous budget to
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: buy the players, none of it matters. And for him,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: his offensive coordinator really, really matters. Can the Niners make
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: a run to the Super Bowl? Their current form is
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 1: absolutely excellent and most of their star players are healthy.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: Purdy will potentially be the MVP of the season if
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: he continues to play like this now. The MVP conversation
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 1: is pretty loaded because you're going to have a lot
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: of teams win a lot of games with high-end quarterback play.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: Purdy right in the mix. Josh Allen right in the mix.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: If the Bengals win 12-13 games, Joe Burrow's numbers are insane.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: And he looks pretty freaking good. If the Packers are
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: just going to... If they've righted the ship and he's
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: going to look like that, he's going to be right
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: in the mix. So I think if you're the 49ers,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: there's a balance of, could we make another move or
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: two over the next, I'm recording this on Monday night,
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: right before the game. Is there anything to be made?
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: And can we just get guys back? Like, you know,
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: Debo's going to play this week. What's the status of Stribling,
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: the guy we drafted essentially with a first-round pick, first
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: pick of the second round? If he comes back, what's
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: Mike Evans' deal? Because to me, defensively, they're going to
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: be pretty solid. Their DBs all tackle, hit, and play
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: the ball in the air. Renardo Green's having a great season.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: Their linebacker play is elite. And if Bost is playing,
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: their defensive line's going to be fine. But it's like,
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: what's the status with these White House you know like
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: is Mike Evans going to be in and out of
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: the lineup or does he just need a little time
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: and then he's going to be fine is Stribling ever
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: coming back is McCaffrey going to be able to stay
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: healthy Maria looked at me yesterday or was it this
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 1: morning it might have been this morning and she was
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 1: watching like she's a diehard Niner fan she's like does
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: Christian get the game ball every week I'm like yeah
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: It's like Christian. Seven carries, 50 yards. Kyle's like, game ball, Christian.
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: It's like, you could have guys have like five touchdowns receiving.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: Kittle could go nuts. It's like, game ball to Christian.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: Kyle fucking loves that guy. Christian could have a stat
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: line of like 0.0 and Kyle would say after the game, like,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: just got to play more like McCaffrey. Which, listen, McCaffrey's
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: just He's just a winning player. He's not the same.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: He's not nearly as quick. He's just a winning football player.
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: It's one of the Niners' big advantages. They're guys a
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: little longer in the tooth. You know, Trent's still really good.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: At 38, 39 years old, he's not nearly as dominant
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: as he once was. But he's damn good. But he's
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: a winning player. Kittle looks pretty good right now. Winning player. McCaffrey, Purdy, Fred.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: you know, Dre when he's with Fred. They just have
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: a lot of guys, you know, Bosa whenever he's on
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: the field. They're just, the one thing the 49ers have
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: is a bunch of guys that know how to play
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: in the construct of a team. And the one thing
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: in football is it's easy to be selfish, right? As
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: a linebacker, shoot the wrong gap because I think I
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: can make the play. Well, and this is why coaches
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: harp on this, if you do that, you could make
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: the highlight play of the day. And Chris Berman reads
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 1: you off in his highlight package. It's like, look at
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: this clowny level play. Blows up the guy in the backfield.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: Or the running back takes a different step and all
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 1: of a sudden he has a 27-yard gain. All of
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: a sudden he walks into the end zone. Safeties. Like, oh,
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: you think you're going to bite on this route because
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: you think you're going to get a pick six? All
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: of a sudden he pump fakes and he goes over
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: the top and the guy's wide open. Because you didn't stay.
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: And the 49ers have a lot of guys that just
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: They put the team and the coaching first, which I
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: think you see bad teams, guys like, you know, screw it,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: I'm going to try this. And there's a balance. Every
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 1: once in a while, you've got to just be a
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: football player and let your instincts tank over. But football
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: is a fine line, especially in the NFL. Okay, a
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: couple more. Big Herbert fan, but I can even see
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: how poor he has been, as much as it kills
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 1: me to admit. My question is this. Do you think
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: any other quarterback in the league with the Chargers offensive
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: line weapons would have them even close to a winning record?
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: I think Josh Allen would struggle to take the Chargers
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: to 500. They look, they're a joke. That game against
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 1: the Texans, of all their games, that was as pitiful
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: as it's been all season. They did one, two, three, quit.
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: They were not trying as the game went on. They
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: cannot block a soul. Their personnel, and I get they've
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: had some injuries, is not good. Pretty hard to go winless.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: But maybe Jim Harbaugh... You know, when people say, did
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: you sell your soul? Is there a point in time
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 1: before we're born? And I'm not, you know, it's like...
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know what happens to us. Like, when I die,
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: do I just become like a tiger in the Amazon?
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: Do I become like a bird? Do I become another human?
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm not the most religious person. I've
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: always wondered all this stuff. No one actually knows. Some
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: people believe different things. But what if before your life starts,
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: you can say what you want and what you don't
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: want and things that you really want, they come at
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: a price, right? And Jim, clearly it meant a lot
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: for him to win the national title at his alma mater.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: Beat Ohio State and do what he did. But along
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 1: with that came the suspensions, the embarrassments, basically banished from
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: college football. And then a couple years later, he is
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: the head coach of a team that might not win
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: a game. Now, you could also go, it goes back to, well,
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: he's been a head coach countless places. He got to
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: play in the NFL. He's lived a pretty charmed life,
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: a football life, right? As a player, then as a coach.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: For the most part, things have gone pretty well. But
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: if you add this to those couple years in Michigan
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: that were, I would say, defined by the chaos, everything
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: going on as much as what was going on in
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: the field, which was dominant play, it feels like it's
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: getting a little chaotic for them. But God, they suck.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: I said it yesterday, for as bad as Brandon Staley was,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: this team's every bit as bad. And if Brandon Staley
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: was coaching, or Anthony Lynn, or Mike McCoy, whenever it
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: was like, fire him! People were kind of hesitant. Because
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: everyone asked, is Jim Harbaugh going to get fired? Because
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: his name and the cachet that he brings and his
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: resume speaks for itself. Those guys don't have anything like
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: he has on his resume. Even just going back to
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: the 49ers. He went to three straight conference championship games.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: He was like 49 and 20 or something. His record
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: was stupid in four years. I mean, the year he
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: got quote-unquote Mutual departing slash fired. They went 8-8. That
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: was like his awful year. And part of the reason
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: they went 8-8 is they lost a bunch of games
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: at the end of the season. Okay, we'll end on this.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: Can you see Shane Steichen getting canned, going to the Jets,
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: and the Jets unloading their war chest of first-round picks
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 1: to acquire Jalen Hurts? Reuniting Hurts with Steichen may be
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: the play long-term. And Woody Johnson is crazy enough owner
• 1:25:34
  Speaker 1: to agree. What's your take? They're under no circumstances could
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: you trade a first round pick for Jalen Hurst right now.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: Based on his play and then obviously just the health questions.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: So even if Shane Steichen went there and they wanted him,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: if they would give a first round pick, Howie would
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: drive him to the Jets facility. Now, could you make
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: a trade for him? deal with some contract situation, maybe
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: they eat a little bit of money, maybe give a
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: second-round pick. Yeah, I could see something like that. But
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 1: if you're Howie, would you just ride it out with
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: him for another year? I think that's a pretty complicated one.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: But when you say war chest of first-round picks, they
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: would get eviscerated, and rightfully so, if they gave multiple
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: picks in the first round for Jalen Hurts. And the
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: problem is, let's say Schleichen became their head coach. Which
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: isn't the craziest thing. Like, a lot of people in
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: the NFL believe that when he's fired, he will get
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: a job. Stefanski just did. And I think Stefanski's one
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: of the most overrated coaches in all of America. I mean,
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: I'm serious. Nice guy. Met him at the combine. Cool
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: to me. People I know that know him, like him.
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: Nothing bad to say about the person. But just as
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 1: a football coach, If you were ranking the 32 football coaches,
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 1: he is way closer to Aaron Glenn to me than
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: he is the top guys. And if you get fired
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 1: and then immediately get a head job, you're pretty highly
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: thought of. Mike McCarthy had to sit out a year.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy is in a different planet in terms of
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: running a team, dealing with guys, just being an operator
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: as the head man than him. You'd be like, well,
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 1: his quarterbacks always suck. I don't know. I mean, I
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: don't think he even knows how to evaluate a quarterback.
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: He's the one that wanted Dylan Gabriel. I don't know
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: why I'm beating up on Stefanski here, but my point
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: is that if Steichen gets a gig, I could see, yeah,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: but if you're him, maybe he would be so desperate
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: to get something credible there. I do think Jalen's played
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 1: pretty bad for a little while. And part of his
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: success that he had with Shane was Jalen used to run.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: which was his great attribute, along with his deep ball throwing.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: Because Jalen as a runner is elite. He's got like
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: Frank Gore vision and feel. But he no longer really
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 1: does that. So if you can't throw over the middle
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 1: of the field, you either got to be a playmaker,
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 1: run around, make plays, which Jalen always did, kind of
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 1: like Russell Wilson, and then take off a lot. Well,
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: he won't take off anymore. So if you're not going
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: to take off anymore, and who knows... How this situation
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: is going to bleed into the rest of his career
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: in terms of, like, does it change his outlook even more?
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: Or is it more, you know, I don't know. That
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: also is a giant question. mark of, like, what impact
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 1: does the blood clot this year, the situation have? Like,
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: is he just completely the same guy next year? Just
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: in terms of mentality, is he a little bit of
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 1: a throwback, kind of living in the moment? I don't know.
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 1: These are all these questions that always get asked in
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 1: these situations. The problem is you can never get the
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 1: answers no matter what they tell you until you actually
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: start playing. So these are all kind of like you're
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: just constantly doing a guessing game. That's why you try
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: to accumulate as much information as you can. It's like, well, Shane,
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: you did coach him, but that was a long time ago.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: A lot has changed. It's like we had a great
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: draft grade on this guy. Well, yeah, he's a seventh-year player.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: So whatever he did back at Iowa or Texas A &
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: M or UCLA in 2018, I don't give a shit. Now,
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: if you have the write-up on the person, okay. We
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 1: can talk the character stuff. But in terms of a player,
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: things change dramatically. I mean, think how many guys go
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: in the fifth, sixth, seventh round. Clearly, most of the
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: league didn't have the guy valued that high. And then
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: four years later, they're getting huge contracts. Or vice versa,
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 1: guy drafted high, three years later, no one wants him.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 1: Or he's bouncing around because he's not any good. So
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: I think you've got to be very careful. To me,
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: you could not give up the capital of any valuable
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: draft picks. And their picks, just by the nature of
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: whose picks they are, are relatively high. They have... Whose
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: picks do they have? They have theirs, the Cowboys... And
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 1: the Colts. Like, theirs and the Colts are going to
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: be good picks. The Cowboys could end up being in
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: the mid to late teens, right? Because how many games
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 1: are the Cowboys going to win? Seven, eight, nine range?
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: But the Colts and Jets are not going to win, really,
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: at all. I mean, the Jets, God, they stink. They
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 1: have a lot of talent, but just in terms of
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: playing the game, I can't even– fathom what I witnessed yesterday.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 1: Because for a half, you're like, God, the Jets kind
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: of going toe-to-toe in Arrowhead. And then it just unraveled
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: on them after Mahomes almost lost his arm. They just melt.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: Geno did have one of the biggest hits I've ever
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: seen from a quarterback. Michael Vick, I remember my first
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: or second year in Philly in a preseason game, I
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: think against the Ravens through a pick. He threw the pick,
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 1: and then he immediately turned into Cam Chancellor and just beelined,
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 1: triggered an angle, and lit him. I was like, could
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: this guy just be our starting safety? Geno yesterday, was
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: it a fumble or a pick? I can't even remember now.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 1: I watch so much football. I think it might have
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: been a fumble. And he made the tackle. He elevated. Like,
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: he left his feet. Like he was a hard-hitting safety.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: And it's one of the hardest hits, might be the
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: hardest quarterback hit in the history of the league. It went, Jesus, Gino.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's like pent-up anger. I don't
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: know if it's like I've always wished I kind of
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 1: played defense. I was like, you know that respect meme
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 1: that Derek Jeter's nephew gave him his last game when
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 1: he got that base hit? It's what I did from
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: my couch. Respect, Gino. That was pretty badass. Adios.