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S2 E8 Midday Missing - Jessica Ann Kinsey & Jonathan Alan Hamby - Missing in Indiana · True Crime and Wine Time

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  Speaker 1: over to the great state of Indiana, Okay. Indiana sits
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  Speaker 1: in the heart of the Midwest, bordered by Michigan to
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  Speaker 1: the north, Ohio to the east, Illinois to the west,
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  Speaker 1: and Kentucky to the south. It's covered now. It's known
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  Speaker 1: as the Hoosier State. It is just home to over
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  Speaker 1: six point eight million residents, and it blends sprawling farmlands
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  Speaker 1: with cities like Indianapolis, and they are famous for hosting
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  Speaker 1: the Indianapolis five hundred. But beyond its racing legacy and
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  Speaker 1: strong manufacturing routes, Indiana, like every state, focuses the sobering
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  Speaker 1: reality of missing person cases. According to national data compiled
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  Speaker 1: through the FBI's National Crime Information Center, thousands of missing
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  Speaker 1: person reports are filed in Indiana each year, with sadly
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  Speaker 1: the majority involving juveniles, and at any given time, several
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  Speaker 1: hundred cases remain active across the state. Thankfully, many are
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  Speaker 1: resolved within days, but so many are night and we're
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  Speaker 1: going to talk about two of those cases today. Jessica
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  Speaker 1: Kinsey was a typical fourteen year old who was in
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  Speaker 1: the seventh grade at Union Middle School. The day after
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  Speaker 1: celebrating Christmas with her family, Jessica went over to her
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  Speaker 1: friend's house to show off her new Christmas presence while
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  Speaker 1: her parents worked at the house. Now she called her
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  Speaker 1: mom around two pm that afternoon to tell her mom, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to stay a couple more hours hang out,
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  Speaker 1: but she promised she would call back at five pm
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  Speaker 1: to let her mom know if she'd be coming home
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  Speaker 1: for dinner or staying at her friend's house for dinner. Guys,
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  Speaker 1: that was pretty common, least when I was a teenager.
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to see who was serving the better dinner,
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  Speaker 1: my mom or my friend's mom. Okay, call me shallow.
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  Speaker 1: Food was important to me. When Mary did not hear
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  Speaker 1: from her daughter, she called over to the friend's house
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  Speaker 1: to find out what her daughter's plans were for dinner,
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  Speaker 1: only to be told by the friend's mother that Jessica
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  Speaker 1: had been picked up by Jimmy Klein. Her mother was
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  Speaker 1: not immediately concerned, as Jimmy, who was twenty three, was
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  Speaker 1: the son of one of her friends. She had known
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  Speaker 1: him since she was a child, and her daughter Jessica
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  Speaker 1: also knew him, so not a big concern Sadly, Mary
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  Speaker 1: had no way of knowing that the phone call from
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  Speaker 1: her daughter that afternoon of December twenty sixth, nineteen ninety five,
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  Speaker 1: would be the very last time she would ever speak
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  Speaker 1: to her daughter again. Hello on top, thank you for
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  Speaker 1: joining us now. Jimmy never brought Jessica home that day,
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  Speaker 1: and when she did not return, her mom called the
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  Speaker 1: police and reported her daughter missing. Mary kind of had
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  Speaker 1: an uneasy feeling about Jimmy and she didn't completely trust
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  Speaker 1: his intentions. With Jessica and her daughter not returning home
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  Speaker 1: heightened that feeling. It was discovered during the investigation that
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  Speaker 1: Mark Henderson said he was paid by Jimmy to take
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  Speaker 1: him and Jessica to Cloverdale, Indiana. Mark said that while
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  Speaker 1: he and Jimmy talked during the drive, that Jessica sat
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  Speaker 1: still and quiet in the back seat. Jimmy told him
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  Speaker 1: that Jessica was pregnant with his child and that they
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  Speaker 1: were heading to Niagara Falls, New York to get married,
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  Speaker 1: and apparently he even showed Mark a pair of wedding bands. Guys,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna warned you, it's about to get a little crazy,
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  Speaker 1: and I will try to keep the rants in check. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Once the three of them arrived in Cloverdale, they checked
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  Speaker 1: into the Dollar In motel, with Mark in one room,
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  Speaker 1: in Jessica and Jimmy and the other. Mark would later
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  Speaker 1: say that he heard a lot of noise coming from
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy and Jessica's room and that at one point it
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  Speaker 1: sounded like a body was hitting the wall. Now, being concerned,
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  Speaker 1: Mark went and knocked on Jimmy's door, and instead of
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  Speaker 1: answering the door, Jimmy yelled out that he and Jessica
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  Speaker 1: were fine and they were just having rough sex. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: excuse me, Mark. I know we don't know each other,
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  Speaker 1: we've never met, and I try not to judge and
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  Speaker 1: I try to be kind, but I have to ask.
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  Speaker 1: Did you not find it strange that a twenty five
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  Speaker 1: year old man told you that the fourteen year old
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  Speaker 1: girl was pregnant and that they were getting married, and
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  Speaker 1: that you heard disturbing sounds coming from their hotel room.
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  Speaker 1: And when he told you they were just having rough sex,
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  Speaker 1: you didn't flip your shit out and want to see
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  Speaker 1: in them open the door because you can't tell me
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  Speaker 1: that you thought Jessica was eighteen. I've seen her, pat sure,
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  Speaker 1: and I can tell you she does not look old
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  Speaker 1: enough to be having a baby or running off to
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  Speaker 1: get married to a twenty five year old man. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: And you left the door. Instead of making sure everything
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  Speaker 1: was okay in the room, he just screamed, Hey, everything's great.
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  Speaker 1: I don't, Mark, I don't, I don't okay, Hello eighties
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  Speaker 1: music man. Sorry, I'm trying not to rant too bad,
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  Speaker 1: but seriously. Now, when Mark woke up the morning of
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  Speaker 1: December twenty seventh, nineteen ninety five, he said that Jimmy
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  Speaker 1: and Jessica were gone, along with his car, which he
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  Speaker 1: reported stolen. How did he have the keys? I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't find now. December twenty sixth was the last
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  Speaker 1: confirmed sighting of Jessica. Later, law enforcement would find traces
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  Speaker 1: of Jimmy in Paris, Tennessee, which is about three hundred
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  Speaker 1: miles from the hotel in Cloverdale, where he had gone
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  Speaker 1: to a pawn shop and ponded a wedding ring which
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  Speaker 1: later they discovered belonged to his grandmother. Okay, Mark had
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  Speaker 1: reported his car stolen on December twenty seventh, but for
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  Speaker 1: some unknown reason, it was not entered into the system
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  Speaker 1: as stolen for several weeks. Okay, we don't know why.
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  Speaker 1: But his car was later found all the way in Compton, California,
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  Speaker 1: which is over two thousand miles from Cloverdale. That's a
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  Speaker 1: long drive. Police were able to find out that an
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  Speaker 1: unidentified black man had dropped the car at a garage
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  Speaker 1: on January sixth, nineteen ninety six, for repairs. Now, if
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  Speaker 1: police had entered the car into the system right when
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  Speaker 1: it was stolen, police might have been able to react
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  Speaker 1: much sooner. While investigating Jessica's disappearance and the connection to Compton,
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  Speaker 1: detectives learned that during the spring of nineteen ninety six,
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy had worked for a short period of time at
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  Speaker 1: a local Compton ice cream store, and witnesses reported seeing
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy with a girl. They couldn't confirm that it was Jessica,
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  Speaker 1: but they said she kind of looked like her, and
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  Speaker 1: to everyone's surprise, including mine, Jimmy returned back to Missouri
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  Speaker 1: in June of nineteen ninety six alone and without Jessica.
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  Speaker 1: He refused to work with the police, and he wound
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  Speaker 1: up meeting up with Anna, who he married. Guys, I
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  Speaker 1: have so many questions. How in the hell does a
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  Speaker 1: twenty five year old, maybe twenty six at the time,
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  Speaker 1: who was last seen with a missing fourteen year old
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  Speaker 1: not finding himself arrested in his ass in jail, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: at a bare minimum, interfering with a miner in their
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  Speaker 1: parents' custody, crossing a state line with the miner without
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  Speaker 1: the parent's permission, something. For God's sake, you can't tell
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  Speaker 1: me that there's not something you couldn't hold him on.
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  Speaker 1: Please tell me why now. Mary, who was Jessica's mom,
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  Speaker 1: denied that Jessica and Jimmy were in a relationship and
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  Speaker 1: said that due to medical reasons what she wasn't going
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  Speaker 1: to share, she was absolutely sure that Jessica was not.
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  Speaker 1: Jessica's friends even told police that Jessica never mentioned having
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  Speaker 1: a boyfriend, much less anything about being involved with Jimmy.
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  Speaker 1: Police were finally able to question Jimmy in two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and four, but since they have not mirandized him, they
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  Speaker 1: were not able to use anything that he told them
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  Speaker 1: and their investigation, and they have not released what was said. Okay, really,
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  Speaker 1: why didn't you mirandize him? I know you probably thought
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  Speaker 1: he was going to clam up, but still I'm not
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  Speaker 1: understanding how he's not. He was the last person seen
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  Speaker 1: with her, and you have an eyewitness, the smart guy
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  Speaker 1: how I don't know. Now. Union police chief told Jessica's
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  Speaker 1: mom Mary that he believed Jimmy had killed Jessica, but
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  Speaker 1: he had no proof. And I have to say, mister chiefa, please,
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  Speaker 1: maybe you can't use the information directly to arrest him
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  Speaker 1: that he told you when you did mirandize him, but
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  Speaker 1: you damn sure could have used that to go and
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  Speaker 1: try to find evidence that you could use. And once
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  Speaker 1: again I asked, why the hell couldn't you charge him
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  Speaker 1: with transporting a miner across the state line? Because Mark
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  Speaker 1: told you that they went from Missouri to Indiana, that
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  Speaker 1: is taking a miner across state lines. There has to
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  Speaker 1: be something something. If anybody in any of the chats
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  Speaker 1: knows why nothing was done, Darry needs to know, because
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  Speaker 1: I'm pissed. Guys. It's also been reported that Jimmy told
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  Speaker 1: several different people that he had murdered Jessica and that
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  Speaker 1: he had disposed of her body. Now, I couldn't find
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  Speaker 1: out if these people had ever called the cops and
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  Speaker 1: reported these are tips, or if they did it later,
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  Speaker 1: and we'll get to that. In November of two thousand
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  Speaker 1: and five, police finally formally which means they mirandized him,
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  Speaker 1: questioned Jimmy after they were able to extradite him back
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  Speaker 1: to the county on warrants for bad checks. So you
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  Speaker 1: could arrest him for bad checks, but you couldn't arrest
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  Speaker 1: him for taking a minor without their permission across state lines.
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  Speaker 1: And you even said she was pregnant by you, Which
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  Speaker 1: is you admitting to having sex with an underage minor.
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  Speaker 1: I can't, people, I can't. We're supposed to protect children
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  Speaker 1: and hold people accountable. Now, when formally questioned, Jimmy denied
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  Speaker 1: killing Jessica, and he said that the last time he
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  Speaker 1: saw her was at a Hollywood hotel with the man
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  Speaker 1: named Capone. Okay, guys, he admitted to the police he
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  Speaker 1: took her across multiple state lines and saw her talking
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  Speaker 1: to a man. How did the FBI not jump in
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  Speaker 1: and get involved? I know, guys, y'all are all going terry.
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  Speaker 1: Why are you anting so much? I don't understand. I don't.
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  Speaker 1: And the hotel Jimmy said that he last saw Jessica
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  Speaker 1: at was actually just a vacant lot and was not
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  Speaker 1: nor had it been a hotel, and the police said
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  Speaker 1: without any other evidence, they could not charge him in
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  Speaker 1: the disappearance of Jessica, so he got away with it.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't have to answer any questions. Didn't And part
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  Speaker 1: of me wants to know why Mark wasn't charged. Why
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  Speaker 1: wasn't Mark charged with facilitating the crime of taking a
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  Speaker 1: miner across state lines and knowing somebody's having sex with
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  Speaker 1: a miner. I don't people, I don't, I don't, I don't,
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  Speaker 1: I don't understand. In April of two thousand and eight,
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy shot and killed his wife Anna, then turned the
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  Speaker 1: gun on himself. Thankfully, the couple's two small children had
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  Speaker 1: been dropped off at their babysitters and were not at
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  Speaker 1: home at the time of the murder suicide. When that
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  Speaker 1: hit the news is when I'm wondering if people finally
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  Speaker 1: came forward to say what Jimmy had told them, because
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't find that they ever called in police tips.
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  Speaker 1: Because if they would have, along with Mark's statement, how
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  Speaker 1: could they not have done something? I I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Now I want you guys to remember. Jessica in Kinsey
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  Speaker 1: was a sweet fourteen year old who loved Mexican food.
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  Speaker 1: Same here at girl, loved the movie Dirty Dancing, Same Girl,
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  Speaker 1: and her dog Max. I used to have a dog
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  Speaker 1: named Max too. Sadly, Mary, Jessica's mom, passed away in
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  Speaker 1: late twenty nineteen, never knowing exactly what happened to her
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  Speaker 1: sweet girl or being able to say a proper goodbye.
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  Speaker 1: Jessica's brother, Jerry still lives in Union and lives every
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  Speaker 1: day without knowing what happened to his sister. At the
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  Speaker 1: time of her disappearance, Jessica was five foot five, weighed
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  Speaker 1: about one hundred and forty pounds, with brown hair and
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  Speaker 1: brown eyes. She does wear eyeglasses and has pierced ears.
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  Speaker 1: If you look at the photo if you're watching on YouTube,
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  Speaker 1: TikTok or kick, that is an age progress photo that
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  Speaker 1: you see on the right hand sid side, on the
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  Speaker 1: left hand side as a picture of Jessica when she
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  Speaker 1: went missing. And I want y'all to look at that.
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  Speaker 1: Does that girl look eighteen? She does not. She does
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  Speaker 1: not look eighteen. I personally think the police failed Jessica,
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  Speaker 1: her mom, Mary, and her brother by not arresting Jimmy,
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  Speaker 1: because Jimmy took all of that to his death. But guys,
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  Speaker 1: if you have any information, if he told you anything else,
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  Speaker 1: or you've heard something, even if you just think it's
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  Speaker 1: a rumor, Okay, please contact the Union Police Department at
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  Speaker 1: six three six five eight three thirty seven hundred, because guys,
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  Speaker 1: her brother still deserves to know what happened to her.
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  Speaker 1: He still needs to know, as well as the rest
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  Speaker 1: of his family. And if Jessica's no longer with us.
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  Speaker 1: I hope she was waiting with open arms for her
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  Speaker 1: mom Mary when she came to happen. Sorry, guys, this
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  Speaker 1: case really got to me because I don't understand. Don't understand.
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  Speaker 1: I want to ask any of you if you know
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  Speaker 1: of or if you have a left one missing and
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  Speaker 1: true Crime. We are out there everywhere, So next up.
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  Speaker 1: Jonathan Allan Hanby was thirty seven years old when he
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  Speaker 1: disappeared from miss Shawaka, Indiana, on February twenty six, twenty seventeen.
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  Speaker 1: I hope I didn't slaughter that. In the years leading
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  Speaker 1: up to his disappearance, Jonathan had face struggles with substance abuse,
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  Speaker 1: and he had previous run ins with the law, but
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  Speaker 1: according to those who loved him, he had turned his
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  Speaker 1: life around. He had found religion and secured a job. However,
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  Speaker 1: after he stopped taking his prescribed medication for depression and anxiety.
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  Speaker 1: Family members began to notice that he seemed to be
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  Speaker 1: struggling again. The last time friends and family heard from
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  Speaker 1: Jonathan was February twenty third, twenty seventeen. He told his
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  Speaker 1: parents he was going to go over to a friend's
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  Speaker 1: house and spend the night there. On February twenty six,
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  Speaker 1: he was last seen leaving his home in Misshawaka. At
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  Speaker 1: the time, like I said, Jonathan was thirty seven years
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  Speaker 1: years old. He would be forty one today. He was
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  Speaker 1: last seen wearing a red Indiana University T shirt and jeans,
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  Speaker 1: and he may have been wearing a car heart jacket.
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  Speaker 1: He was driving a black two thousand and six BMW
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  Speaker 1: five point thirty XI. His vehicle has also never been located.
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  Speaker 1: Jonathan's parents have said that there were no signs he
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  Speaker 1: was planning to leave the area. According to his father, Kevin,
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  Speaker 1: Jonathan took no clothes, no monies, and he's never accessed
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  Speaker 1: his bank account. Everything just went silent. Jonathan was known
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  Speaker 1: as a huge sports fan who love Notre Dame and
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  Speaker 1: enjoyed playing basketball. His mother, Cordea, has spoken about the
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  Speaker 1: difficult difficulties that she has seen and been through actually
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  Speaker 1: during sports season. She said they used to watch all
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  Speaker 1: the games together and that she misses that special time
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  Speaker 1: with him deeply. Mislwaukee Police began investigating his disappearance, and
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  Speaker 1: at that time there were no signs pointing exactly to
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  Speaker 1: a crime. Jonathan does remain missing along with this card. However,
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  Speaker 1: the homicide unit later took over the case. Guys, if
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  Speaker 1: you have any information in regards to the disappearance of
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  Speaker 1: Jonathan Allen Hanby, please contact the Elkhart Police Department at
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  Speaker 1: five seven four two nine five two eight two four.
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  Speaker 1: I do want to also mention, because we got a
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  Speaker 1: little confused when we were doing research on this case,
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  Speaker 1: that there is a Jonathan P. Hanby who was found
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  Speaker 1: deceased in August twenty twenty four in Indianapol Bliss, and
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  Speaker 1: that this is a different person than Jonathan Alan Hanby,
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  Speaker 1: just very similar names. I couldn't find if there was
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  Speaker 1: any connection to them. Okay, I couldn't. I tried, but
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't. Now, guys, I want to ask you please
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  Speaker 1: go to our Midday Missing Facebook page or any of
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  Speaker 1: my Terry true crime social media pages and share the
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  Speaker 1: missing person posters for Jessica and Jonathan. They will be
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  Speaker 1: posted within the next hour after this stream. And guys,
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  Speaker 1: it sounds like it's a small thing, but I want
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  Speaker 1: you to trust me. It means a lot to the families.
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  Speaker 1: We hear from families who just say thank you, it
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  Speaker 1: means so much. And guys, it just might help a
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  Speaker 1: tip come in that helps these families get the answers
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  Speaker 1: they deserve. I do want to thank you all for
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  Speaker 1: joining me today if you're watching live, and also thank
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  Speaker 1: of Alaska, Robert Hansen. Tomorrow night will be part two.
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  Speaker 1: If you missed part one last night, you can find
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  Speaker 1: it on our YouTube playlist. And because this is an
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  Speaker 1: do justice to all of the victims, plus our wonderful
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  Speaker 1: the case in depth and do justice for all of
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  Speaker 1: the victims and to let Alaska know, pardon my French,
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  Speaker 1: they fucked up. Okay, just gonna tell oh, yeah, Alaska,
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  Speaker 1: you screwed the pooch. So go watch last night's part
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  Speaker 1: again thank you all for joining me, thank you for
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  Speaker 1: watching later. It is really important to all of us
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  Speaker 1: and to me to help share these family stories because
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  Speaker 1: we do talk to a lot of families and we
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  Speaker 1: hear about the struggles they have with law enforcement not
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  Speaker 1: doing what they should do, not helping out, not getting
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  Speaker 1: the resources that they need. So we like to give
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  Speaker 1: them a platform to help keep their loved one story alive. Now, guys,
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  Speaker 1: until next time, stay safe, stay aware, but most importantly,
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  Speaker 1: if you see something, say something, keeping silence, you are
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  Speaker 1: actually protecting the perpetrator. Okay, so do the right thing.
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  Speaker 1: If you see something, say something, even if you think
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  Speaker 1: it's a rumor. If you hear it, tell it. And
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  Speaker 1: let's help these families bring their loved ones home. Okay, guys,
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  Speaker 1: until next time, I will see you soon. Bye, guys,