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Ferarri Dominates AGAIN in Mexico | Mexican GP Recap - Fast Laps with the Boys | Brazillian GP Preview · Banter with the Boys

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Get laced up! Let's go!
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It's time for Banner with the Boys!
0:13
Yo, welcome back to Banner with the Boys.
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Fast laps.
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Doing quick wardrobe changes here right before we record, but everything's on.
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So, we're good.
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So, we're good.
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Um...
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Whew! What are we talking about?
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Oh, F1. We're back at it with F1.
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It looks F1. F1. F1. F1. Fast laps.
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Yep. Fast laps.
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Uh, we're gonna recap the Mexico GP, and we're also gonna preview the...
0:37
Do we call it the Brazilian GP or should I call it...
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I mean, I...
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What are we calling it this year?
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I mean, I usually... I can do the...
0:42
No, what? Yeah, save it. Save it. I'm looking forward to it.
0:45
We're already about tempo.
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And I didn't even give you... Yeah, we're all off. We're all off.
0:49
I didn't even give you a good title for your Brazil preview this week.
0:53
It just says... It just says Joe's.
0:55
It has an apostrophe on it.
0:56
Just my name. Yeah. Joe's. Yeah.
0:59
So, you own something.
1:00
That's okay.
1:00
Just says Joe's. So, anyway.
1:02
With that, obviously, I'm smelty.
1:04
Uh, Joe, our co-host.
1:06
Joe, what's... I mean, it's only Tuesday.
1:09
Usually, I ask Cole how his week's been, and...
1:11
Cole is still nowhere to be found, you know, because of his job.
1:15
Fair enough. Fair enough.
1:16
We respect you, Cole.
1:17
But, uh... So, how's your week been, Joe?
1:19
Uh, week's been good. I mean, you know, super early.
1:22
Today's been a really good day.
1:24
Um, got a lot of work done today. Did a lot of fun stuff at work today.
1:27
So, um...
1:29
You know, coming off of a really good race, I would say.
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Probably... Oh, man. Exciting race.
1:33
Probably, honestly, like, I was talking to some people I was watching with.
1:35
Probably one of the best races of the season, in my opinion.
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For sure.
1:38
So, yeah. Excited to get talking about it.
1:41
Yeah. No. Absolutely.
1:42
Uh, of course, I am as well. I also agree with you.
1:45
I think it was one of the most exciting races, um, that we got all season.
1:49
There's a... You know...
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What? 15, 20 lap stretch there at the end where not a lot was going on.
1:55
But, yeah.
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I mean, up to that point, I mean, it was constant all the way through the field.
2:00
So, uh... And of course, last but not least, behind the camera there, we got Kev.
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Kev giving us a little, uh, wha-sa.
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Um, yeah. With that, let's head right into our Mexico GP recap.
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And starting off, let's actually talk about qualifying really quick.
2:16
I didn't put it in there, so I know, again, keeping with the theme of this episode of just completely flying off the rails.
2:23
Uh, it was, it was an interesting qualifying.
2:26
Yeah.
2:27
Uh, Yuki messing some things up for some people.
2:29
Mm-hmm.
2:30
Um, you know, not going the way, you know, probably Matt, but, uh, I think, uh, it was a good race.
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You know, not going the way, you know, probably Max thought it would go.
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I mean, Mercedes even a little bit.
2:45
I mean, they... I don't know. I don't know.
2:48
Q, Q3 was interesting. Uh, the end of Q1 was wild.
2:52
I mean, was there anything that stuck out to you for...
2:54
Yeah. I, uh, I kept, I usually, when I watch qualifying, just very few bullet points just in case we want to bring it up.
3:01
Yeah, Perez knocked out in Q1 again.
3:02
Yeah.
3:03
Um, Piastri knocked out alongside him. Very unfortunate. Just could not hook up a good lap.
3:09
Mm-hmm.
3:09
Um, and then his tire strategy on his outlaps were like really weird. He had, uh...
3:13
For who, Checo?
3:14
Uh, Piastri. So like, his last lap was on used tires and he just could not hook up a lap.
3:20
So, um, unfortunate knockout for him. And then, yeah, Yuki crashing out Q2, pretty much knocking himself and Lawson out at the same time.
3:27
Um, and then, uh, I'm going to be talking about him at least, at least twice, maybe three times.
3:33
Gasly getting into Q3.
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Gasly.
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Olkan nowhere to be seen, but that's okay.
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Gasly though.
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Q3, that's kind of, that's kind of impressive.
3:41
These, this race and last race.
3:43
Was it the second, I was going to say second race in a row, right?
3:44
Second race in a row he's getting, yeah. It's, uh, yeah, second weekend in a row.
3:47
Um, I don't, he's finding some kind of pace in that L-peen.
3:51
Well, and Gasly, we'll talk about it a little bit later.
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But Gasly also had some, some great things to say, you know, about L-peen.
3:58
Like things are looking up there.
3:59
So interesting as we are closing out this season already with four races left after Mexico.
4:06
That's weird. I can't believe it's already almost over.
4:08
Yeah, it's, it's gone by really quick.
4:10
Uh, another thing that's gone by pretty quick, Alonzo's career.
4:15
Yeah.
4:16
No, seriously though, Alonzo's 400th start. I mean, that's just insane by itself.
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Did you happen to look up where that ranks on, you know, a list?
4:24
I did not. I should have probably.
4:26
Is it not the, uh, uh, the most of all time?
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The most?
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Is it?
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I'm going to check really quick.
4:32
Alright, no problem.
4:33
Uh, let me, uh, let me just, uh, look at the screen here and fill, fill time.
4:38
No.
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But I mean, like we can talk about Alonzo. I mean, it was a really good, really amazing achievement.
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Unfortunate end to his race though.
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Yeah, of course. I mean, not something he was planning on, of course, but him, Chacko, uh, yeah.
4:54
I did not. What happened? Do we know?
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Um.
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You know what happened? I was going to also pull that up.
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I do have it. I do. I'm almost positive.
5:00
You did pull that up.
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Uh, so Fernando Alonzo is, is the, uh, record holder for most starts.
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Of all time.
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Of all time.
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Wow.
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Um, uh, I'm trying to, I want to see who.
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Lewis, Lewis holds the most starts with a single team, but Fernando holds the most starts just in general.
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Overall, yeah.
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Yeah. I, wasn't it just car issues, I think, for Fernando? He just had some car issues.
5:25
They just, I remember on the back.
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I just put Alonzo retires the car. Yeah.
5:28
Yeah, okay. I just remember on the broadcast, they were just like, and he's having issues and has to retire, unfortunately, in his 400 start, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
5:35
Yep.
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But. Um.
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Uh, brake cooling issue.
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Brake?
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I remember there was some like debris stuck in the car or something like that. And yeah, I was going to mess up his brakes.
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Yeah. I'm very unfortunate and to his 400th race start, but you know.
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What are you going to do?
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What I mean, hey, what are you going to do?
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You need brakes.
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You do need those.
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You need them to stop, I think.
5:57
Fair enough. Uh, of course, you know what? I didn't put in the document. Man, we are just all over the place today.
6:04
I just got to see that top grid. I already know who won, but I want to see every be able to see everybody else here so I can update all you.
6:12
Oh, in terms of like who who got where.
6:14
Who got where.
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So yeah.
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So we got, I mean, I could just read it off. Yeah, I got it in front of me.
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Go for it.
6:19
So we got Carlos in first place. He was four seconds to Lando in second. Lando was, you know, closing the gap a little bit, but couldn't quite make it to him.
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Charles getting two Ferraris in the podium in third.
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And then we got Lewis and George.
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Great race for Mercedes.
6:33
Yeah, good. Yeah, very good race for Mercedes.
6:35
Max behind them and then K-Mag right behind Max, followed by Oscar, who couldn't quite catch up to K-Mag, but was kind of getting there.
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There was a lot of talk about him maybe reaching Max, and we'll talk about that a little later.
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And we got Nico and then Pierre Gasly filling in the last spot.
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So again, you know, great race from Gasly.
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Yeah, Pierre getting a point.
6:58
So let's circle back to Ferrari.
7:00
Obviously, Carlos getting the win.
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Great race from Charles, too.
7:04
Figured he would have got one, two there, but Lando was given just enough.
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And, you know, Lando. McLaren had a decent race, too.
7:15
Lando had a decent race.
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Lando had a decent race. Yeah, I mean, Charles just, you know, pushed a little too hard on that entrance into turn one.
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Or rather, the entrance into the straight and then went off the track a little bit, giving Lando second place.
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So, you know, at least he didn't crash.
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I was, as I was watching it, I kind of, I saw Lando getting closer and closer to Charles,
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and I started feeling the way I did in Miami when Lando was like about to get his first win.
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I was like, I feel like something bad's about to happen.
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And then Charles did that, and I was like, no!
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Luckily, didn't keep, didn't put him to the wall.
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So like, you know, honestly, the podium for me, best case scenario, I think.
7:52
Sure, sure. Two Ferraris and a McLaren.
7:53
No, he did. I mean, it's a great save. We'll call it a save.
7:56
Yeah, really, really good save.
7:57
It did look like he was going to fly off, he did fly off the track, but it definitely looked like he was going to go ahead and total that Ferrari.
8:03
But kept it out of the wall and still finished P3 after having a pretty solid weekend.
8:09
Also, enough of a gap to pit and get fast to slap.
8:13
Like, those top three dominant the entire race compared to everyone else.
8:19
I would agree. I would agree.
8:20
You know, seeing Max brake 22 seconds sucks.
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Seeing three drivers, no matter who, even if Max is in those three drivers, I like that. That's awesome.
8:27
At least we got some consistent racing, you know?
8:29
No, it's insane. And that, again, you know, I feel like we've said it now the past few races since summer break, pretty much.
8:35
We have no idea at this point who's going to honestly finish P1 the rest of the season.
8:39
You know, these last four races, who knows?
8:41
Yeah.
8:42
I think it's going to, we're going to get exciting racing just like this for the last four races.
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And I really hope we do.
8:48
Now, I'd like to see Max not get 22nd penalties, but we'll get to that.
8:52
You'd like to see him not get 22nd penalties?
8:54
Yeah.
8:55
I got to play Cole a little bit.
8:56
Yeah, because you got to beat him at his best. You know what I mean?
8:59
I suppose. Yeah.
9:00
I mean, it feels better.
9:01
Okay, but if his best...
9:02
Oh, I beat Max for a second, but he did have 22nd penalties.
9:05
Okay, but if his best is breaking your car and pushing you off the track, I mean, it's all in a race, you know?
9:11
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get you. I get you.
9:14
But Ferrari with the 1.2...
9:16
Not 1.2, 1.3.
9:17
1.3, my bad.
9:18
You're good.
9:19
Yeah, could have been 1.2.
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Could have been 1.2.
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But yes, with the 1.3, I look to them to be finishing P5 or better the rest of the season, to be honest.
9:28
Yeah, they broke...
9:29
They're looking way too consistent right now.
9:30
Yep, they broke second. They're not second in constructors, so there's that too.
9:34
Yep.
9:35
They, I would, I don't think they're probably going to catch McLaren, although it's only 30 points away.
9:42
I mean, with Piaz, what's the difference?
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Only 30 points. That's it, 29 points to be exact.
9:48
Wouldn't that be something?
9:49
That's still very, very close.
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If Ferrari shows up out of nowhere and just...
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McLaren has to have a really bad weekend. And Ferrari has it.
9:56
And Piastri wasn't looking fast this weekend per se.
10:00
I would say...
10:01
In the GP. In the GP.
10:03
We'll talk about him because I have some notes.
10:05
Because they were leading the race, weren't they? 1.2, Lando and Piastri at one point?
10:08
No, no, never.
10:09
They were not? God, I'm thinking of the Ferraris then.
10:11
Yeah, you're thinking about the Ferraris, yep.
10:13
But Lando was up there, I know, early, early, but...
10:15
Nope.
10:16
Are you sure?
10:17
Positive. Lando started in P17.
10:19
He didn't get to P2?
10:21
If he did, it was because he hadn't pitted yet.
10:23
What am I... I gotta figure out what I'm thinking of, but anyway...
10:26
If he got to P2, it's because he hadn't pitted yet. But I don't think he ever broke P5.
10:30
Maybe that's what I'm thinking of, is guys pitting and then, you know...
10:34
Yeah, possibly.
10:35
How they just stack up to the top until their turn.
10:37
I don't think he had like a crazy long stint, but he had a longer one, at least.
10:40
But yeah, we'll talk about... We can talk about McLaren when we kind of get to them in the stops.
10:46
I want to start talking about Red Bull, dude.
10:48
Go for it.
10:49
So much, right? I mean, you started...
10:51
I mean, let's just talk about the elephant in the room, Checo, right?
10:56
So, qualifies poorly in... Just qualifies poorly in general.
11:01
Comes into the race.
11:03
False start, right off the bat.
11:07
Five seconds.
11:08
That's crazy.
11:10
False start, it was because he lined up in front of...
11:12
Yeah, he did not jump the light. He was completely with it. He was fine with that.
11:16
His whole tire was like in front of the line.
11:19
Yeah.
11:20
Yeah, it was...
11:21
Yeah, that was...
11:22
Had a great start.
11:23
He did.
11:24
And then that's when they told him that, hey, Checo, you had a false start or whatever.
11:29
He's like, I was a great start.
11:30
That's BS. I was a great start.
11:31
That was a great start.
11:32
And he can't know, right? And then they told him it was because he was over the blind.
11:36
And he was like, they should look at it again. I don't think it was.
11:38
Yeah, yeah.
11:39
And us the viewers were like, no, it was definitely over the line.
11:43
We know more than you at this point, Chad.
11:44
Yeah, seriously.
11:45
For this situation.
11:46
I just don't know. So two years ago, he finished third.
11:50
Last year and this year, just shambles. He was out lap one last year.
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And then this year, he just could not make anything happen.
11:58
So that Monaco curse that was on Charles, I think there's a Mexico curse on Checo now as well.
12:04
That's a great point.
12:05
Yeah. I don't know what's what's happening.
12:07
Like a few drivers at their home races, they just can't put it together.
12:10
First off, Lando was up front. Piastri was in the back.
12:13
Yeah, that's what I said.
12:14
No, you told me that I was wrong that Lando was in the back.
12:17
No, you. OK, hold on.
12:19
Yeah, yeah. We got to clean this up.
12:21
You said Lando and Piastri are up front.
12:23
And I said, no, they were never up front.
12:25
And then I said, oh, I thought I was talking about Ferraris.
12:28
I swore Lando was up front. You're like, no, he was P17.
12:31
Oh, I thought I thought I still think you said Piestri rewind it or check the tapes.
12:36
Check the tapes. That's fine.
12:37
But anyway, anyway, anyway.
12:39
Either way, Lando was up front pretty much the entire time.
12:41
I was looking that up. Yeah.
12:43
Um, back to Checo. So the false start. Not great.
12:47
Um, he gets a five second penalty later in the lap. He starts fighting Liam.
12:51
I do have some Red Bull racing news, but we can just kind of pin these together really quick.
12:57
Um, Checo hates Liam.
12:59
I know.
13:00
Like that's crazy.
13:01
I was reading up on this interview with Checo about that.
13:05
And, uh, I think this was from motorsport.com.
13:08
Um, like just, yeah, he, he pretty much hates him.
13:13
He's like, he's got a bad attitude. He needs to be more humble.
13:16
All this stuff like.
13:17
Yeah. And there's no love loss on Liam's side either.
13:19
Like we saw him, we got some, some give him the finger during the race.
13:22
Yes. We saw him.
13:23
When he passed him.
13:24
Honestly, that's the stuff I want to see.
13:27
Everyone's talking about Liam possibly being the second driver.
13:30
I want him fighting these Red Bulls. I don't want him proving.
13:33
He has to.
13:34
He's running out of time. Liam, he's already been in that rabbit hole, got stuck in the, in the reserve driver role.
13:41
So now, now it's his time. That's why he's being so aggressive.
13:44
He's trying to take advantage of that.
13:45
Yes. There's an argument to say he wants to appease Red Bull, Horner and Helmet by like doing what they want him to.
13:51
But I'm so happy he's going, he's going balls to the wall on that.
13:55
That's so, so much fun to see a Checo fighting Liam.
13:59
And if Red Bull's like, no, you can't be here because you're going to do stuff like that, somebody else will absolutely pick him up.
14:04
Hopefully. Yeah.
14:05
You would think, well, you would think if there's a spot open.
14:08
So I'm really happy we saw some fighting from Liam. It was, it was pretty dirty fighting, I would say.
14:12
I don't think it was clean at any point.
14:13
Checo did pick up a little bit of damage, which I think ultimately just ruined his pace and he lost every opportunity he had from that point on.
14:21
With that incident or with Liam and Checo's kind of feud?
14:26
Sure.
14:27
Is it a feud now?
14:28
Yeah.
14:29
Is this officially a feud?
14:30
Yeah, 100 percent it's a feud.
14:31
Officially a feud.
14:32
They were going after each other, all race.
14:33
Band of the Boys, officially a feud.
14:35
Yeah, I mean he, yeah.
14:36
We're putting on a shirt.
14:38
Alright.
14:39
Yeah.
14:40
Even though I'm about to read something off motorsport.com.
14:41
Do it.
14:42
But it was just interesting here in the article, it says, when asked, when asked how his relationship with Lawson is, he snapped back, meaning Checo, quote,
14:50
I don't have any relationship with him.
14:52
I think the way he has come to Formula One, I don't think he has the right attitude for it.
14:56
He needs to be a bit more humble.
14:58
Okay, I guess that's where I was saying the humble thing.
14:59
He needs to be a bit more humble?
15:01
Dude, he's frustrated.
15:02
That's Checo.
15:03
Half of that is Checo being frustrated with his own current situation and probably his own current performance, which is lackluster right now, to say the least.
15:11
Yeah, him saying that Liam is not humble, watching Liam get kicked out of a seat and then having to wait almost a full season to get the seat back, that's, how can he be not humble?
15:24
He doesn't have the experience to not be humble, you know?
15:27
He's fighting for his spot, right?
15:31
I don't think he's going to try squandering it at least.
15:34
No, but there were some good fights there.
15:37
There were some really good fights.
15:38
Yeah, they looked at Liam, I think, for a penalty, but they didn't give it to him.
15:43
I think Checo was trying to get him a couple times.
15:46
I think it's because Checo fought back and did the same thing to him, and so they just kind of knulled it as a racing incident altogether.
15:52
But yeah, it was good to see Liam doing a little bit of fighting against Checo.
15:56
I was really happy to see that.
15:57
Too bad he didn't finish really good.
15:59
Do you happen to have it down in your notes what lap that was that Checo and Liam was getting into it?
16:06
I should have that in my notes.
16:08
I know you go lap by lap like I do, but for some reason I don't think I have that one.
16:13
I'm just curious if that's what triggered my comments.
16:16
That was in lap 18.
16:18
Lap 18, okay.
16:19
So on lap 25, for whatever reason, I put this in our document here, that Smelty here, me, said, quote, this is a gritty race on lap 25.
16:27
So that happening...
16:28
Lap 25.
16:29
I said that not long after that incident, but there's so much that happened and everybody's fighting for position.
16:35
Well, it's because we saw Lawson fighting Perez, and then we saw Perez fighting Stroll, and then we saw Max get another penalty.
16:43
We saw Max get a second, and this is all within five laps.
16:46
Yeah, it was insane.
16:47
And then we saw Piastri fight Colapinto.
16:50
Colapinto was fighting him.
16:52
He was fighting him.
16:53
So yeah, those laps, that's probably why you said that, and then Max started just penalty right after.
16:57
Because the commentators were kind of confusing me a little bit when all the Max penalties started happening because, I don't know,
17:04
for some reason I was getting confused.
17:05
So I was also, while I was watching it, I was following along with this...
17:09
Now, of course, I can't remember.
17:10
It was something...
17:11
It was BBC related.
17:12
It was BBC Live, and people were updating the race and stuff.
17:16
Oh, sure.
17:17
So I was getting the explanation through there, and it was just insane, the Max situations.
17:24
Yeah, we can get into that now.
17:26
Go for it.
17:27
Yeah, we can.
17:28
I mean, we saw a repeat basically of the US, except it was flipped over and amplified to the 10th degree.
17:34
And I kind of would like to touch back on the US a little bit as well on how those penalties were given to Lando.
17:41
Because Max got two 10 second penalties.
17:45
Lando got a single five second penalty.
17:47
Right?
17:48
I think it was...
17:50
It's a statement.
17:51
It's a little weird thinking about it and trying to rationalize it.
17:54
Okay, wait, you got to take off the McLaren hat and put on a Red Bull hat before you say that.
17:57
I left it at home.
17:59
Oh yeah, I'm sure.
18:01
I'm sure.
18:02
It's definitely at home.
18:03
I think...
18:06
So the US situation was so weird at that corner because they didn't start enforcing it until like a quarter through the race, it felt like.
18:14
People were going off and they weren't giving anyone anything, and then all of a sudden they started handing out penalties for it.
18:20
And so I think maybe that's a factor in why the penalties were so kind of minor.
18:27
And then we get to this race and Max gets two 10 second penalties.
18:31
To be fair, he pushed them off pretty far.
18:34
Oh yes.
18:35
I'm not saying Max definitely deserved those penalties.
18:38
For sure.
18:39
Like live, when it first happened I was like, oh you know, whatever, probably a racing incident, whatever.
18:43
And then they showed the replays, I was like, fella.
18:47
Like, come on.
18:49
And I don't know.
18:51
I think because of Max's track record as well as being a little bit more of an aggressive driver, you know, and they've already talked to him about this earlier in the season.
19:00
I'm almost positive.
19:01
Didn't he have a meeting with somebody or whatever?
19:04
I got to look it up now because you're looking at me like I'm an idiot.
19:07
I mean, you could be right.
19:08
I swear to God, or maybe it was just internal with Red Bull.
19:11
I'm sure.
19:12
But he's been talked to about this, about his driving before this season.
19:18
Maybe it's just a statement too from the stewards too.
19:21
It kind of makes you think, is 2023, he had it easy.
19:27
He was winning races by 20 to 30 seconds every single weekend.
19:31
He didn't have to get dirty.
19:32
He didn't have to get dirty.
19:33
So he lost that skill a little bit coming into this year maybe.
19:36
And his fights are just really dirty.
19:39
I mean, I understand fights are hard.
19:40
His fights are different.
19:41
I appreciate his, I appreciate him fighting really hard.
19:43
Like, I really appreciate it.
19:45
But he's definitely getting penalties for the fights that he's in.
19:48
And you're thinking maybe because of all last season he was winning by.
19:51
Maybe.
19:52
This is all, I could just be talking like a whole lot of smack.
19:57
I'm just kind of rationalizing.
20:00
But you'd think a driver at his level, he would have knocked that rust off in two races.
20:04
Yeah, you would think so.
20:05
Which again, they started the season pretty dominant as well though.
20:09
Right.
20:10
But, that's interesting.
20:11
They weren't fighting a lot early this year.
20:13
His fighting does feel different.
20:15
It's very aggressive.
20:16
He will back out of things, but it's only if you have the clear advantage.
20:20
Otherwise, he does seem to border that line of dirty or not.
20:26
I will also say we haven't really seen him making these mistakes with anyone except Lando, right?
20:34
For the most part.
20:35
Like when he's fighting someone.
20:36
That's who he's most threatened by.
20:37
That's who he's most threatened by.
20:39
But maybe Lando isn't aggressive enough.
20:43
I don't know.
20:44
With Max?
20:45
I'm just trying to make the comparison between Lewis and Max and Lando and Max.
20:52
And Lewis was just as aggressive as Max.
20:56
There would be moments when Max puts him into the wall and Lewis puts Max into the wall.
21:02
And that just happens.
21:04
But it seems like, and sometimes this happens too, I guess.
21:09
I'm thinking back to Austria.
21:10
They both ruined each other's races because they got too close to each other again.
21:13
I don't know.
21:14
It's interesting.
21:15
Maybe one of them is either not aggressive enough or maybe they're both a little bit too aggressive.
21:20
I think you're onto something there.
21:21
I think it would be Lando that's a little less aggressive than Max.
21:25
I almost view Oscar more aggressive than Lando to be honest with you, like within the team.
21:31
Sure.
21:32
But maybe that is the thing.
21:34
Possibly.
21:35
I just know Max is different.
21:36
Max is just going full bore and Lando's maybe trying to find the right time instead.
21:40
Possibly.
21:41
Instead of also matching his level of, I don't know.
21:44
That's interesting.
21:45
Yeah.
21:46
Something to think about and something to keep watching.
21:48
Max is just performance when he's fighting against someone.
21:50
Well, and their battles are becoming more frequent.
21:52
Lando and Max.
21:53
And I think that's going to be Lando, Max, throw Charles in there.
21:59
Carlos is ending the season really well.
22:01
But between those three, like Lando, Max, and Charles, not to take anything away from
22:06
Carlos, but I think that's going to be your main battles.
22:10
Not only ending the season, again, there's going to be a couple other people involved
22:14
there, mainly Carlos.
22:16
Maybe you see a George Russell still try to make something happen with that Mercedes car
22:19
that's just not on the same level.
22:21
But I think those are going to be the three that are going to start the season next year
22:26
battling, which is going to be uber fun.
22:29
Yep.
22:30
Uber fun, last year before New Regs, right?
22:33
Yes.
22:34
Next season.
22:35
Yeah.
22:36
That's correct.
22:37
Yeah.
22:38
But anyway, yeah, Red Bull with a wild race to say the least.
22:39
Bad weekend for Red Bull in general.
22:41
Like you said, now getting passed by Ferrari in the Constructors.
22:46
Bad weekend for Red Bull.
22:48
They're ending the season poorly.
22:50
You know what sucks is that Cole's not here right now.
22:53
This is what he's been wishing for and wanting all season.
22:56
Talking about the downfall of Red Bull and we might be seeing the start of the snowball
23:01
on the top of the hill right now and Cole's not there to kick it down the hill.
23:05
Yeah.
23:06
He's so, yeah, Cole.
23:07
I mean, he said it.
23:08
I'm not putting Max in any more of my podiums and I think he's kept to form.
23:13
I think.
23:14
Maybe he went back on it once.
23:15
I might have to.
23:16
If I want a shot, you know, the rest of them, you know, we got to work together here, Joe.
23:20
If we want a shot.
23:21
I mean, I'm not going to not put Max in podiums.
23:23
Like, I mean, he's just too fast, right?
23:26
Like, is he too fast right now?
23:28
His car.
23:29
I think his car is failing him.
23:30
So like, let's go on Red Bull, right?
23:32
By end of race, his tires were gone.
23:35
It's his car.
23:36
It's not.
23:37
OK, I say it's his car.
23:38
It's not him.
23:39
He got 20 second penalties last year.
23:40
He put his McLaren hat back on when he said this.
23:43
Yeah.
23:44
Yeah.
23:45
He made some bad.
23:46
He made some bad fights, right?
23:48
But at the end of his race, he was losing a ton of time because of his car, not because
23:52
of him.
23:53
Right.
23:54
It's a red.
23:55
It's a Red Bull problem at the moment.
23:56
Sure.
23:57
Sure.
23:58
So if they can get upgrades on the car, he can he can definitely make it back.
24:02
I still think some tracks are going to be better than others.
24:05
Like we saw McLaren just did not do well at US, but they did pretty good here.
24:10
So I would not hold out on Max.
24:13
It's like at the start of the season as well.
24:15
I think all of you.
24:17
I think I don't think any of you put Checo in in your podiums, but I was like the Red
24:23
Bull is going to be fast.
24:24
Like it doesn't matter if Checo is a bad driver.
24:26
He's going to be in a Red Bull in Bahrain.
24:29
Yeah.
24:30
It's just it's kind of the same thing except a little flipped.
24:33
Max is still an incredible driver.
24:34
He's going to be able to put his car in front of people.
24:38
And it just kind of depends on how it goes from there.
24:40
But his car is not working for him.
24:41
He's losing.
24:42
He's losing a lot of he's getting a lot more dead than usual.
24:45
He can't turn.
24:46
He's complaining more than usual, I would say.
24:48
He complains a lot.
24:49
Well, yeah, I think they probably have to censor half of his complaint.
24:52
Probably.
24:53
It's probably not fit for television.
24:55
Probably.
24:56
But with that, let's let's head right into McLaren.
25:00
Yeah.
25:01
Again, not not the end of the world for them with where Landon finished.
25:05
Weird race for Oscar.
25:07
Weird race for Oscar.
25:08
I think really qualifying was his downfall.
25:09
I think he would have placed pretty well if he was if he qualified higher.
25:13
So I did put he he had a good recovery.
25:17
He started P17.
25:18
He made it up to P7 or six.
25:21
He got up there and they were talking about him catching Max.
25:25
Now he didn't catch Max.
25:26
It blows my mind.
25:27
And he didn't catch K-Mag either, which is crazy.
25:29
We'll talk about K-Mag in a few seconds.
25:30
We'll talk about K-Mag and Haas.
25:31
If you're a Haas fan, this is finally your time.
25:34
Yeah.
25:35
But yeah, Castre did not have upgrades this weekend.
25:37
He did not have the same upgrades as as as Lando.
25:39
He will have them next weekend.
25:41
So we should see a bit more competitiveness coming from his side of the garage.
25:45
I still think he had a good recovery.
25:47
I mean, he got back into points, decent-ish points.
25:50
It's not where you want to see a McLaren finish or it's not where you would expect a McLaren
25:53
finish, but still a good a good recovery despite what had happened, I will say.
26:00
No, for sure.
26:02
Like you said, P17, that's where he started, right?
26:05
Yes.
26:06
Start at the back.
26:07
It was either P17 or P18.
26:08
The fact that you're even in points, you know, of course with a car as dominating as McLaren,
26:14
should that be expected?
26:15
Probably.
26:16
But I think we still, you know, it's still a feat to get into points from P17 and work
26:20
your way through the field.
26:21
Yeah.
26:22
No matter what.
26:23
But yeah, great showing from Lando.
26:27
Just again, a consistent driver, a championship caliber driver.
26:32
I mean, he's a championship caliber driver.
26:35
We're going to see that battle next season.
26:39
I think it's a real possibility that between him and Charles, maybe.
26:46
And Lewis.
26:47
Or Lewis.
26:48
I was going to say it.
26:49
I mean, who knows?
26:50
Like Lewis could go crazy in the Ferrari.
26:53
Does Red Bull figure their stuff out?
26:55
Yeah.
26:56
And if you, I mean, putting even putting Lando aside, the McLaren is just looking really
27:01
good right now.
27:03
It's holding Dag better than I think most cars at the moment.
27:06
Like it, of all the cars I'm seeing like a last minute push from the McLaren.
27:11
What are you saying?
27:12
Holding Dag?
27:13
Like they're managing their degradation.
27:14
Yeah.
27:15
They're managing their degradation really well.
27:17
So like it's like the McLaren at the end of the race, I'm always seeing them gaining
27:21
on the next person versus everyone else.
27:23
Like their Dag is really, really good.
27:25
So it's fun to see that.
27:27
They're better in the long run you're saying.
27:29
Oh, I would say so.
27:30
Than everybody else.
27:31
I would.
27:32
I would say Lando.
27:33
Like Lando caught Charles and Charles.
27:35
True.
27:36
He, this is not the first time Charles did that when he was under pressure, unfortunately
27:38
when or he was fighting Lando.
27:40
He just pushed a little too hard.
27:42
Then again, we have seen Charles do some really crazy stuff in the Ferrari.
27:45
He does feel the pressure again.
27:47
Thank gosh that he won Monaco this year.
27:49
Honestly, like I felt so happy for him, but he, I'm watching it again.
27:54
It just came, it just came up when Charles getting loose there.
27:58
I just don't, I just don't get it.
27:59
It does feel like a pressure thing.
28:02
Yeah.
28:03
Just snapped it, got loose and tried to snap it back.
28:06
He saved it well.
28:07
You know, that's all I can ask for.
28:08
He did save it well.
28:09
No, no, no.
28:10
For sure.
28:11
We're not taking that away from him.
28:12
I was rooting for Lando to get ahead of him anyway, but like, I'm just, I'm, I'm just happy
28:15
Charles didn't get his race ruined and I'm really happy his safety card didn't come out
28:19
and like it added more, you know, more drama.
28:24
More drama, more drama.
28:25
That's what we need though.
28:26
That's what we need.
28:27
You're right.
28:28
We need more drama.
28:29
Moving right along.
28:30
Mercedes, I guess I kind of thinking back to what I was saying earlier in the show here,
28:36
I was kind of talking crap on Mercedes qualifying and I guess their race in general, but they
28:43
actually ended up having a much better race than they, they probably anticipated at this
28:47
point in the season with a car that's just, it's just not there.
28:52
Yeah.
28:53
They're at the same level right now as the McLaren and the Ferrari, they're approaching
29:00
the Red Bull.
29:01
I'd still like to say that the Red Bull car you would, you would imagine is still a little
29:03
bit better, but I mean, they finished in front of them this week.
29:06
They did.
29:07
I don't think, I don't think there's 20 seconds sitting in the, in the box.
29:11
Yes.
29:12
And I don't think Mercedes had to, yeah, they did not have to fight literally anyone else
29:16
the entire race.
29:17
That's what I mean.
29:18
They're kind of in their own little.
29:20
Yeah, they started fifth and sixth and they ended fourth and fifth and that's because
29:25
Max had his, his downfall.
29:27
Right.
29:28
Yeah.
29:29
And that's the only reason I, the only notes I have of the, of Mercedes is them fighting
29:32
each other.
29:33
Lewis trying to get ahead of George.
29:34
And they're about what?
29:35
So let's see.
29:36
10, three, 13 seconds.
29:37
Look at that math.
29:38
10 plus three, 13.
29:39
Good job.
29:40
Well like 13 seconds approximately in front of Haas.
29:46
Yep.
29:47
So, I mean, even Haas is starting to catch them a little bit.
29:50
Yeah.
29:51
So.
29:52
Is Haas next on the?
29:53
Ah, if they're not, we can talk about Haas next, but.
29:56
They are.
29:57
Yeah.
29:58
Good.
29:59
Good for them because they had an excellent weekend.
30:02
Um, but with Mercedes, I kind of have them in a tier, kind of like I had Aston Martin
30:07
all season and Aston's kind of been in their tier by themselves all year for me.
30:12
Now Mercedes has kind of slotted into that, but they're still better than the Aston, you
30:16
know, no doubt.
30:17
Yes.
30:18
But, ah, they're just kind of by themselves.
30:20
I don't know.
30:21
But I think they can touch P5 or better.
30:24
Yeah, I think so.
30:25
The rest of the season.
30:26
I don't see them beating anybody else to get a win.
30:31
Maybe George has a crazy race.
30:32
Maybe Lewis goes out with a bang in Abu Dhabi in the Mercedes, which would be awesome.
30:36
That would be cool.
30:38
I don't see it happening.
30:39
I think.
30:40
I want Carlos to win Abu Dhabi because I think that would be nice.
30:44
I think we're going to have a heck of a, I can't wait.
30:48
Just because I don't mean to.
30:49
Better than the boys live watch party at midnight or whatever.
30:52
Yeah.
30:53
I don't mean to derail us a little bit, but just going back to Carlos, I had mentioned
30:56
this.
30:57
It's possible we could have just witnessed Carlos's last F1 win, unfortunately.
31:01
What?
31:02
Yes.
31:03
His last F1 win?
31:04
Yes.
31:05
You think so.
31:06
He's going to Williams next year.
31:07
I know, but.
31:08
Williams is too unreliable.
31:11
We just can't.
31:12
They're charging, but they're consistently not there.
31:13
But they're always charging.
31:15
They're never consistent with where they're going.
31:18
But again, with 2026 looming in the background, we don't know who's bringing what.
31:22
You'd like to assume the better teams will probably start out of the gate a little better
31:28
than everybody else, meaning Red Bull, Ferrari, Mercedes, McLaren.
31:32
Yeah.
31:33
But who knows?
31:35
Who knows?
31:36
I just don't see a world, unfortunately.
31:39
Dang.
31:40
With F1 win ever, potentially.
31:43
That's why I would like to see him win another one before the end of the year.
31:46
Sure.
31:47
Sure.
31:48
Fair enough.
31:49
Get three wins in one season.
31:50
I think we're going to have a number of drivers really fighting hard that last race.
31:52
I hope so.
31:53
That would be nice.
31:54
That would be cool.
31:56
You had written something about Russell's car being different from Lewis?
32:01
Yes, I did.
32:03
Okay.
32:04
I was wondering where I put that note.
32:05
I was just looking for my note on my phone, thinking I put it there, but I did put it
32:09
in here.
32:10
The commentators actually said that George Russell's car is completely different than
32:15
Lewis.
32:18
Potentially George Russell's car is only upgraded through Miami because of damage here and there.
32:26
They got to keep repairing things here and there, so they haven't been able to actually
32:30
upgrade his car, but that'd be a long time ago.
32:33
Didn't you have a race win?
32:36
I'm just saying.
32:37
I'm almost positive that's what they said because I was taking these notes during it,
32:42
so maybe they said it wrong.
32:43
I'm not sure, but that'd be wild.
32:45
Yeah, that would be crazy.
32:49
He's still battling Lewis, even with Lewis' car having the upgrades.
32:52
He hasn't had a race win, but he's had some pretty close races.
32:58
That's insane.
33:00
He's doing that well in a car that isn't upgraded since Miami.
33:03
That's early season.
33:05
That would be crazy.
33:06
I'd slot in with those drivers that I mentioned earlier to start 2025 before things start
33:11
taking effect.
33:12
Yeah, why not?
33:13
Hopefully we get... If we're going to see a Mercedes up there, it's going to be George.
33:16
Kimmy's got to... He's got to learn.
33:19
I was thinking about this this weekend.
33:20
Now that Lewis is gone and I wasn't going to jump on that bandwagon, now I should jump
33:26
on the Mercedes now that they're mid-pack.
33:28
Now you want to jump on a Mercedes?
33:31
Yeah, and it's nothing against Lewis.
33:33
I love Lewis.
33:34
I think it's going to be awesome.
33:36
I jumped on the Mercedes bandwagon when they were at their height.
33:39
Well, actually that's wrong.
33:41
I started really liking them when they started getting beat by Red Bull.
33:45
Yeah, I mean, why not?
33:47
We're not that massive of a George fan either, but it's... I don't know.
33:51
Are you a big Ferrari fan?
33:54
Are you going to be with Lewis?
33:57
It's an interesting concept with Lewis and Charles.
33:59
It's kind of a fun team.
34:02
The way they're performing at the end of the season, it'd probably be fun to be a Ferrari
34:06
fan the next couple of years here, but I'm not just going to jump on their bandwagon.
34:12
That's fair.
34:13
I almost hated Ferrari, I would say, last year and the year prior, but this year I've
34:18
really grown to like them a lot.
34:19
I didn't like them.
34:20
I really did not like them when Vettel was there for some reason.
34:24
I just was like... I just did not like them as-
34:26
I think it was just the whole, this is the team that everyone knows.
34:31
This is like, Ferrari is F1.
34:33
If you ask F1 to some Joe Schmo, who at least knows what F1 is, and you ask him about a
34:39
team, it's probably going to be at Ferrari.
34:41
Yes, exactly.
34:42
You think of the Ferrari red immediately.
34:45
It's like, yeah, and they're like, they have a legacy and they want to get back to form
34:49
because they were doing really bad when we started watching.
34:51
They were doing horribly when we started watching BTS.
34:53
They were not awesome.
34:54
I was like, I don't want these guys.
34:55
They're really bad.
34:56
And everybody was really cheering for Ferrari because they were the underdog.
34:59
Yeah.
35:00
I did not jump on that bandwagon then.
35:02
I was very much just like, whatever.
35:04
No, you were a Mercedes fan about that time.
35:08
When I started watching DTS, I don't actually... I think it was still McLaren.
35:12
I don't think I had any true alliance to any team until I really started watching this
35:15
sport.
35:16
And I really don't either.
35:17
That's my problem.
35:18
Well, I mean, I do have an alliance now, obviously.
35:19
Well, yeah, now, clearly.
35:20
Red Bull.
35:21
Yeah.
35:22
But this year for sure, especially after Monza, I think, when like... I think the saying
35:29
has been said, even if you're not a Ferrari fan, you're a Ferrari fan.
35:33
Well, that was cool.
35:35
Yeah.
35:36
I mean, just watching a sea of red and like them.
35:38
Yeah, for sure.
35:39
It was so special.
35:40
Yeah.
35:41
And also, it's got to be also, they're just competing with Max too.
35:44
They're getting points on the board.
35:45
They really are, though.
35:46
Yeah, no, no.
35:47
More than competing.
35:48
I've really, really grown to like Ferrari this year.
35:51
So real quick, let's just run through these last couple.
35:53
Haas.
35:54
Haas.
35:55
Double points finish.
35:56
Merica, let's go.
35:57
Whoa.
35:58
Nice for Haas.
35:59
Crazy.
36:00
Good weekend.
36:01
Good weekend.
36:02
K-Meg in... I'm talking about qualifying K-Meg making it to Q3 or whatever.
36:10
Yeah, K-Meg getting into Q3.
36:11
That's wild and not getting last in Q3 either.
36:14
Well, Nico got into Q3 too.
36:16
Did he?
36:17
I wasn't sure if he did make it to Q3 or not.
36:19
I can't remember.
36:20
Maybe he did and finished with Mike Astley.
36:22
Oh, you know what?
36:23
Yeah, Kate, no, Nico did get into Q3 as well.
36:25
What did he...?
36:26
He got 10th.
36:27
Where was Gastly then?
36:29
Gastly was... You could have sworn Gastly got 10th or was starting 10th, but I...
36:36
Gastly got 8th.
36:37
Oh, snap.
36:38
I'm not even giving my boy enough credit.
36:39
Yeah, qualifying was kind of crazy.
36:41
The last three people were an Alpina, Williams, and a Haas.
36:44
I know.
36:45
That was insane.
36:46
I love seeing it though.
36:47
I want to see more of that.
36:48
And poor Albon with that.
36:49
Poor Albon, dude.
36:50
So real quick, yeah, Haas.
36:51
Haas.
36:52
I'm not trying to take anything away from Haas.
36:55
You were out there K-Mag fighting and outpacing Oskar.
36:58
Yeah.
36:59
As soon as Oskar got behind K-Mag, it was five seconds or whatever, and started closing
37:04
the distance.
37:05
So they were both equally closing the distance to Max at the same time.
37:09
So it was almost like, oh my gosh, he actually is going to have to fight K-Mag if he even
37:13
gets to him, and he never could.
37:15
So a great race from K-Mag.
37:17
They told him Oskar was behind him, and he was like, oh no, I'm not getting this position.
37:21
And this was while the commentators were saying that Oskar could catch Max.
37:25
They weren't even thinking about K-Mag.
37:26
Yeah, they brushed him off.
37:28
That's not even a possibility.
37:29
They didn't even bring him up.
37:30
Yeah.
37:31
So it was really, really cool seeing him.
37:32
I think K-Mag's having the time of his life right now.
37:35
Just racing really consistent.
37:38
K-Mag's been consistent for Haas.
37:41
That's wild.
37:42
Haas, in general, has had, I guess you could say, a solid season considering where you
37:47
thought they would be.
37:48
I would say so.
37:49
And I got two completely different drivers next year.
37:52
I know, which is crazy.
37:53
Does that make you nervous now as a Haas?
37:55
100%.
37:56
Yeah, 100%.
37:57
Because you're just like, dude, we're finally doing something.
37:58
We could fight for best of the rest next season, right?
38:02
We're getting Ocon and a Rookie.
38:03
Yeah, it's going to be tough, I think.
38:06
But no, good for Haas.
38:07
They're finishing the season strong.
38:10
It's fun to watch.
38:11
It's fun to watch.
38:12
So much fun to watch.
38:13
I love seeing our American boys up there.
38:14
Actually doing something.
38:15
They're not American.
38:16
Our American team up there.
38:17
Yeah.
38:18
Calm down.
38:19
Our American driver was kicked out of that fight this season.
38:21
It didn't go very well anyway.
38:23
Yeah.
38:24
I think we're going to take about 20% off there.
38:26
But yeah, Racing Bulls and Williams a little bit.
38:30
Racing Bulls we mentioned, but Williams...
38:31
Oh, Yuki crashing out.
38:32
We didn't talk about the first crash.
38:33
Well, and we can talk about that with Albahn there.
38:36
So whose fault is that in your opinion watching it?
38:39
I think it's Yuki's fault if I'm recalling it correctly.
38:43
It's tough because it looks like Albahn started breaking early.
38:48
He was...
38:49
So how I'm seeing it, Yuki was going on...
38:53
He was on the outside, Albahn on the inside, and Albahn had another car alongside him as
38:58
well.
38:59
Gasly was alongside him.
39:00
Yes.
39:01
So he was getting squeezed a bit.
39:02
Albahn was moving a little bit, but he was also under braking.
39:04
But he was holding his line.
39:05
He was definitely holding his line.
39:07
Yuki tried racing past him, maybe broke late or something.
39:11
He definitely broke later than Albahn did.
39:13
Race passed, got clipped.
39:14
And so I think it's a Yuki incident, unfortunately.
39:17
And then Albahn just had to suffer the consequences.
39:18
And then Albahn started slowing down and you just see in the replay of Yuki just go flying
39:24
right past him and yeah, they just clip each other a little bit.
39:26
And that ends up being it for both drivers.
39:29
But I mean, what are you going to expect in that first turn?
39:34
Yeah.
39:35
That first turn really does not disappoint.
39:38
Next year in Mexico with the rookies is going to be wild in the first turn.
39:42
Yeah.
39:43
Mexico turn one does not disappoint ever.
39:46
But yeah, Colpinto, I did not see where he finished.
39:48
He was outside of points.
39:51
Not by a ton.
39:52
He was fighting with Oscar for a little bit, but I think in general, it was just kind of
39:57
like a race for him.
39:58
Because Oscar had to climb from P17.
39:59
Yeah, exactly.
40:00
He finished P16, so it wasn't incredibly...
40:01
Oh no, he didn't finish P16.
40:02
That was where he started.
40:03
Colpinto.
40:04
Yeah.
40:05
He finished 12th, so he climbed a little bit.
40:08
So he was there.
40:09
He was there.
40:10
He was ahead of both Salbers.
40:11
He was ahead of Liam and Perez as well, but they were kind of fighting each other.
40:16
Yeah, the Liam-Perez thing is seriously going to be between Max and Lando, Liam and Perez
40:22
literally probably fighting for...
40:25
Liam fighting for Checos job and Checos fighting to not get demoted.
40:28
I don't know if we've talked about it yet, but we have to talk about it.
40:30
Hold on.
40:31
Hold the phone.
40:32
Okay.
40:33
Let's go ahead and finish this up a little bit.
40:34
Joe coming out with it.
40:35
Well, the only other thing on here was Alpine before he moved on.
40:37
Oh, Alpine.
40:38
Whatever.
40:39
Like you said, O'Connor would be seen.
40:40
Gastly had a pretty solid weekend as a whole, so my boy, represent.
40:46
Yeah.
40:47
Gastly doing good.
40:48
Gastly doing good.
40:49
Sorry, Gastly.
40:50
That's all you get this week.
40:51
But I want to hear what you got to say because you seem fired up about it.
40:55
Why is everyone saying Lawson is suited to take Checos seat and they're not talking about
41:01
Yuki?
41:02
And I say everyone as in commentators.
41:08
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
41:09
You brought it up a little bit last week too.
41:11
And that is interesting.
41:12
There's nowhere, like literally nowhere, nobody's talking about taking over Checos seat.
41:17
Yeah.
41:18
It just doesn't, it doesn't make sense.
41:19
It doesn't really make sense.
41:22
I think Liam's a really good driver, but Yuki has more experience.
41:26
He's been on the team longer.
41:29
Wait a minute.
41:30
Wait a minute.
41:31
Could you imagine though, if they decide to give Yuki the seat, give Checo the opportunity
41:35
to drive the racing bull, if he chooses, let's say he chooses it.
41:39
Oh, now you have Checo and Liam on the same team.
41:42
Oh man.
41:43
That's crazy.
41:44
Let's go do some PR photos.
41:46
Oh yeah.
41:47
They're going to have to make nice really quickly.
41:49
Oh man.
41:50
They're going to have to make nice super quickly.
41:51
It would be all for show too.
41:52
I just, I'm not even sure if Checo would take the bottom seat.
41:55
I don't even know if they would offer it to him to be honest.
41:58
You don't really.
41:59
I think they're going to go the route of Danny Rick.
42:00
I'm going to take him out into the field.
42:02
They're going to say goodbye.
42:04
You got to go that way.
42:06
Keep walking.
42:07
Checo could be done all together.
42:09
I just, I just, yeah, I just, his, this weekend was so bad for him.
42:14
It was so bad.
42:15
Yeah.
42:16
Yeah.
42:17
So incredibly bad, but his, his fighting, Checo's version of fighting right now is pretty
42:21
much what to, Oh, that was another thing he said too real quick, but Checo's version
42:25
of fighting is almost turning into max is where it's like the last resort is just like,
42:29
let me just get in your way and push you out of the way and see what happens.
42:32
Cause I know you're going to avoid me.
42:34
So yeah, you know, and that's kind of what it feels like he's been doing.
42:37
Um, and that was one of the other things that Checo said about Liam is that, Oh yeah.
42:43
When a, I don't know why I'm talking in that voice.
42:45
Checo doesn't talk like that.
42:47
Oh yeah.
42:48
But Checo was saying something about how when a two time world champion is talking to you
42:54
and Liam wasn't paying attention to any of that at all, you know, that's where, you know,
42:58
I think that's where he needs to be more humble.
43:00
Who is he talking about?
43:01
Like, who's Max a three time?
43:04
Oh, was Max not?
43:07
Was Liam?
43:08
I guess I don't know the context.
43:09
Like he was just bringing it up as an example.
43:10
He's like, you know, this last week, whatever, I can't remember.
43:14
It was in that same article by, Oh, of course I'm off that article now, but maybe don't
43:18
be in the position to fight Liam because you're in a Red Bull.
43:21
Well, and that's what, and that's all that, that's why I brought it up is like, that's
43:24
all it is is Checo is just mad because he's not performing.
43:27
So he needs to bring something else up to kind of level that out a little bit.
43:30
So not all the eyes are on him.
43:33
Yes.
43:34
Um, but I don't know.
43:36
Liam was a little bit too aggressive.
43:39
If I'm a Red Bull brass, you know, I'm like, Whoa, I think they were both aggressive with
43:45
each other.
43:46
We need to take that down a little bit because we own both of these.
43:48
Yes.
43:49
And that's, that's where, that's where we keep on coming back to, right?
43:52
They shouldn't have to do that.
43:54
Like they shouldn't, the helmet Marco shouldn't have to go to Liam and say, you shouldn't
43:57
have done that.
43:58
That should never ever happen.
44:00
Like one, a total Wolf shouldn't go to Albon in Williams and say, Hey, don't fight George.
44:08
Don't do that.
44:09
Like that's not, that shouldn't happen, but it's happening.
44:12
A total Wolf isn't doing that as a helmet Marco, obviously.
44:14
Right.
44:15
It just can't, do you think it would get to that point though, where Toto even would do
44:18
that though?
44:19
I don't think the relationship between Mercedes and Williams is as tight knit.
44:22
I don't think it is either.
44:23
I don't think like they have, they have granted vowels come, came from Mercedes.
44:27
So they're going to have respect for each other obviously.
44:29
But when it comes to on the track, they're going to fight each other.
44:32
Why wouldn't you?
44:33
You know?
44:34
Yeah.
44:35
You're out there getting points.
44:36
You're out there getting points.
44:37
Like you can, yeah, I had a whole conversation with like just about that about Mercedes and
44:43
Williams and then Red Bull and yeah, just like, because George took a Mercedes seat
44:49
when he was in a Williams, a couple, like the year before he jumped into the Mercedes
44:53
seat, seat because, um, Hamilton was sick.
44:57
And so they pulled George from Williams.
45:00
And so one argument-
45:01
And you just don't like seeing that?
45:02
I think, in that scenario I'm kind of okay with.
45:06
I don't think it should be happening.
45:07
But that's like the only scenario?
45:08
Yeah.
45:09
So maybe like a bias-
45:10
Or if Carlos Sainz needs an appendix.
45:12
Yeah.
45:13
And maybe like a biased opinion on my, on my front because he's not a reserve driver.
45:16
He has a team that he's already in.
45:18
So he really should be racing in that team, you know?
45:21
Fair enough.
45:22
And scoring points for that team.
45:23
But because he was in the Mercedes, um-
45:25
I can see that.
45:26
So if it's, if, even if that instance where Lewis is sick, you need to use the reserve
45:31
driver.
45:32
You shouldn't have the option to pull from another team, a starting, again, quote unquote
45:36
starting driver-
45:37
A full-time driver.
45:38
From another, a full-time driver from another team.
45:40
Yeah.
45:41
Okay.
45:42
That's the kind of the argument.
45:43
That I can get behind for sure.
45:44
I like having the minor league teams to kind of work your way up.
45:47
Yeah.
45:48
I'm totally cool with having these, and this is kind of the point, driver academies.
45:52
That's why they were able to do that with, with, uh, with George.
45:55
Or that's why George got the opportunity because he was in the Mercedes driver academy.
45:59
But now it's, but now it does look, it is weird for teams like Aston and, uh, like Alpine
46:05
that are just kind of, you know, loners.
46:08
Because it's Haas technically a driver academy for Ferrari or not?
46:10
Haas is in, yes.
46:11
Yes.
46:12
Haas is in the same driver academy.
46:13
Uh, Kick is in the same driver academy as Ferrari.
46:15
Yeah.
46:16
McLaren's on their own.
46:17
Alpine-
46:18
And I think Aston, I think-
46:19
Aston is in-
46:20
Aston uses the Mercedes.
46:21
Aston is also in Mercedes.
46:22
Oh, are they?
46:23
I think Aston is also in Mercedes.
46:24
I don't know if they use their drivers as much, but I-
46:26
They use their engines, I know, right?
46:27
Yeah, they use their engine.
46:28
Yeah, I knew that, but I wasn't sure if they were part of the Mercedes tree or not.
46:32
I don't know.
46:33
Maybe they are though.
46:34
All of my, all of my knowledge comes from like the F1 games more or less.
46:37
I don't know for sure.
46:38
Fair enough.
46:39
So, um, so I'm like not the expert at this whatsoever.
46:41
Oh, okay.
46:42
Um, yeah, I think Alpine is by themselves and so is McLaren.
46:45
Speaking of F1 game, at the end of news, I will bring up the F1 game again and you gotta
46:49
tell me your bit there.
46:51
But Kev, with that, let's head right into our news.
47:05
And right back at it, the first order business on our news agenda here.
47:10
Uh, Honda and Alpine, Honda being, I mean, pretty much Red Bull, I guess, but Honda and
47:14
Alpine, fined by FIA for engine cost cap breach.
47:20
Um, like Alpine is going to have to pay the FIA $400,000, uh, for this situation.
47:27
I don't really know all that much about it, but it's the first I'm hearing of it too.
47:32
Um, a bunch of money being thrown around.
47:33
So the engine suppliers breached cost cap.
47:36
Yeah.
47:37
Not the teams.
47:38
So Honda supplies Red Bull, but it's not the team and V carb obviously, but it's not the
47:41
team.
47:42
Um, here he does the power.
47:45
This is from planetf1.com.
47:47
I've actually used this site before, I think.
47:50
So how reliable we are, uh, the power unit financial regulations, which came into effect
47:55
on January 1st, 2023, impose a cost gap on spending by the power unit manufacturers with
48:01
the limit currently set at 95 million.
48:03
The limit increases to 130 million for 2026 and beyond, uh, with the new engine formula
48:11
coming into effect.
48:13
So they have, the manufacturers has spent over that 95 million threshold and will be
48:19
fined accordingly.
48:21
Imagine spending $95 million on an engine.
48:24
Over that.
48:25
Yeah.
48:26
That's your, that's your cap.
48:27
You can only spend $95 million.
48:29
That's crazy.
48:30
Oh, you went over that.
48:31
Here's another $400,000 fine.
48:34
Good luck.
48:35
So, no, does this apply to the cars?
48:37
Like are they already using these engines that they've like went over the cost cap?
48:41
Cause that could like.
48:42
That's a good point.
48:43
Or is this for 2025 engines?
48:45
Yeah, I don't know.
48:46
Um, Honda's paying 600,000 by the way.
48:50
Turns out this is how you said Honda and Alpine.
48:54
Yeah.
48:55
Honda and Renault.
48:56
Yep.
48:57
Yep.
48:58
Yep.
48:59
Yeah.
49:00
Alpine still using the Renault in-house engines, which they're really high on by the way, going
49:04
forward for 2025.
49:06
And they're really, really, really excited about the 2026 engines that Alpines are.
49:11
I only know that cause I follow all their crap because I guess if I'm any fan right
49:15
now, I'm an Alpine fan.
49:16
Woe is me.
49:17
But, uh, but a lot of good things coming.
49:21
I'll just spew what they're spewing.
49:23
That's it.
49:24
Maybe I'll give you an update next week.
49:25
Sure.
49:26
Yeah.
49:27
Yeah.
49:28
Absolutely.
49:29
Yeah.
49:30
Yeah.
49:31
They got a heck of a lineup.
49:32
They, yeah.
49:33
Who's their second driver next year?
49:34
Jack Dilan.
49:35
Oh yeah.
49:36
And, uh, Leslie.
49:37
Yeah.
49:38
Could be fun.
49:39
Could be.
49:40
I'm going to be watching Pierre too.
49:41
Sure.
49:42
You over Pierre?
49:43
I was never into Pierre.
49:44
Pierre.
49:45
Yeah.
49:46
Is he just, I know that, but he's like, you just take, taking up space.
49:49
Oh, I mean, he's, he just had really two really good weekends and I want to call it out.
49:52
You know, he had, he's racing really, really well and you know, in comparison to Ocon,
49:57
who is not.
49:58
So yeah, I think he deserves the call out.
50:00
He, Hey, Hey, Gasly, congratulations.
50:03
You got my call out.
50:04
I know he's watching.
50:05
I know he watches.
50:06
Oh yeah.
50:07
He's avid.
50:08
He's avid because I'm such a fan.
50:09
We hang out all the time.
50:12
Anyway, uh, Helmut allegedly coming out, coming out, saying something.
50:25
It seemed like shade at Lando.
50:27
That's kind of how people were taking it.
50:29
You're saying he's more talking about Piazzery.
50:32
He could be talking about both.
50:33
Helmut talks, Helmut talks a lot.
50:35
I know, dude.
50:36
I feel like he's in the news all the time, just spewing nonsense.
50:39
Yeah.
50:40
Um, Oh yeah.
50:41
So the thing I saw with Helmut, uh, was that he said that there's like a vacuum at Red
50:48
Bull and Piazzery could, could feel that vacuum and past who's asked about it.
50:53
And his exact words were, that's just Helmut talking again.
50:56
Like that's, that's what he does.
50:57
Right.
50:58
It's not going to happen.
50:59
Yeah.
51:00
Yeah.
51:01
It's not going to happen.
51:02
There's no, I think pastries is very comfortable where he is.
51:03
I don't see him leaving.
51:04
Like really at all.
51:05
You got a championship contending car.
51:07
Who leaves first?
51:09
Landon or Piazzery?
51:10
Oh, that's such a good question.
51:11
If it comes down to that, if it comes down to that moment.
51:15
I think Landon.
51:16
I don't think we're seeing it anytime soon.
51:18
No, no, no.
51:19
I think Landon would be the first to leave because he's been there for so long.
51:22
I think he would be the first to want to try something else.
51:25
Whereas I think Oscar.
51:26
Daniel Ricardo situation.
51:27
Time to go.
51:28
Yeah.
51:29
Although it's hard for Oscar because Oscar like left Alpine right as they were announcing
51:34
him as their driver to go to Mcclaren.
51:36
That was a really weird situation.
51:37
It was an incredibly weird situation.
51:38
I remember right.
51:39
Because they announced him as the new driver and then like what?
51:42
Two days later?
51:43
Or was it the same day?
51:44
I thought it was a couple days later.
51:45
It was something like that.
51:46
But it was just like, no.
51:47
Actually.
51:48
I will not be going there.
51:49
That's cap, your honor.
51:50
I did not do that.
51:52
That's cap.
51:53
Oh my God.
51:55
We're so unhip.
51:56
Anyway.
51:57
Yeah.
51:58
So anyway, nothing big.
52:00
That's really, nothing craziest came out yet for other news.
52:04
We're done with silly season, you know?
52:06
Yeah.
52:07
Yeah.
52:08
The biggest thing, the only seat left is kick, right?
52:10
Yeah.
52:11
Oh, one other thing I wanted to bring up.
52:13
Yeah.
52:14
So, oh, is it, is it on this phone?
52:17
I have a work phone and one personal.
52:19
It's nothing serious.
52:20
Before anybody makes assumptions why he's got two phones.
52:25
Okay.
52:26
So there's an Instagram post by Checos dad.
52:31
That people are like reading into a little bit here and he worded some things weird and
52:36
maybe that's just, you know, Spanish to English type deal.
52:39
I don't know.
52:40
But here's the post really quick.
52:42
And then I still want to ask you about that.
52:43
Let's do it.
52:44
And then we got to get into your preview.
52:46
But anyway, hold on.
52:47
I believe again, this is Instagram post by his dad.
52:50
But of course the top of it's cut off, right?
52:53
So anybody could have posted this and put a picture of Checo there, right?
52:56
But this was on an F1 page or whatever that fall on Facebook.
53:00
So again, really good source.
53:03
The only place to get your information is meta.
53:06
A guy sent me this picture and it's really poorly cropped.
53:09
Yeah.
53:10
Anyway, it says your first formula race, formula one race of Sergio Perez, 2011 Grand Prix
53:17
of Australia.
53:18
It's a picture of him, young Sergio right here.
53:20
And then the next picture you slide over would be and his last race Grand Prix of Mexico
53:24
2024 kind of weird.
53:26
His maximum pride, the most beautiful flag in the world.
53:29
You guys together until the end of the movie.
53:31
Thank you, Checo Perez.
53:32
Today you are the most known Mexican on the planet.
53:34
We have to be very proud of what you have accomplished.
53:36
Always remember that the worst race of your life was in Mexico when you were 12 years
53:41
old and they kicked you out of cartism of your country 2002.
53:45
And look what you have accomplished and the best is yet to come.
53:48
I love you son.
53:49
So a lot of people are taking that like, do they know something that nobody else does?
53:54
Did they plan on Checos last final race being in Mexico?
53:59
That's where a lot of people are taking it.
54:01
My guess is last race.
54:02
And then a lot of people are like, dang, he's ripping his son apart saying that was his
54:06
worst race.
54:07
Yeah.
54:08
I think a lot is probably lost in translation.
54:09
Last race could just mean that the last race that happened and his worst race, he's talking
54:13
about the carding thing.
54:14
Yes.
54:15
Yeah.
54:16
100%.
54:17
That's all I think is the carding thing.
54:18
I thought you were going to say, I thought you were going to say Checo to kick.
54:20
That's why you were like.
54:21
No, no, no, no, no.
54:23
Not that tin foil hat.
54:25
Yes.
54:26
Unless, whoa, wait a minute.
54:30
I mean, nah, I don't think it would be in V-carb for last four races of the season.
54:35
No, I'm not.
54:36
I don't think Checos.
54:37
I want to be very clear.
54:38
I think Checo is not a head jar.
54:41
Checo is not being kicked.
54:43
I think he's, he's finishing the season no matter what.
54:45
Yeah, no, I agree.
54:46
He's finishing the season.
54:47
I don't think he's going to be racing in red.
54:49
I think this will be a conversation.
54:51
I just made it up right now.
54:52
We will have a show at the end of the season.
54:54
That'll be like a season wrap.
54:55
Oh, that's a good idea.
54:56
I like that idea.
54:57
And off season preview kind of of things.
55:00
That will be a conversation.
55:01
Does Checo stay in the seat?
55:02
Well, we'll talk about that as we get closer.
55:04
We still got four more races to be excited about here.
55:07
Stay tuned.
55:08
Does Lando catch Max for the championship?
55:10
But anyway, probably not at this point, by the way.
55:13
That'll be tough.
55:14
Tough to do.
55:15
The video game, F1 2024.
55:16
You wanted to go off on it.
55:18
I do want to go off on it.
55:19
And I was talking to you about it.
55:21
I'm going to try getting, because I wrote a review for the game as well.
55:24
And I think it sums things up pretty nicely.
55:26
Where did you write the review?
55:28
It's on Steam, which is where I bought the game.
55:32
And I just want to be clear.
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I never write reviews for games.
55:35
It has to really make me angry.
55:37
But I think the whole thing is the F1 game is made by a company called EA.
55:48
Or it's produced by a company called EA, Electronic Arts.
55:51
And they're produced.
55:52
Yes, exactly.
55:54
It's produced by another company called Codemasters.
55:57
EA makes yearly sports games.
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They make F1.
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They make NBA.
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They make NFL.
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They make pretty much all of them, right?
56:08
And they're all the same except worse every single year.
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They don't build them till they're complete.
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They take the last game.
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They add in one or two new features.
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Maybe they change the UI up a little bit.
56:25
And then they ship it out.
56:26
It's the same game otherwise.
56:27
Put a little lipstick on it.
56:28
A little bit of lipstick, right?
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Make it look a little prettier.
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And then they have all of these bugs.
56:32
All of these bugs they have to continuously try to fix.
56:35
So some of the bugs I'm experiencing in my F1 24 game, there is, we got to season two
56:43
in my co-op career.
56:44
The weather is always the same.
56:46
The weather is always the same.
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It never changes.
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It's always sunny.
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It never ever changes.
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I get rain in my single.
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Yes.
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After season two though, after season two it just stops.
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Oh, so it gets really bland after.
56:58
I wonder if that's a percentage thing if they know.
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I think, yes.
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Oh, this percent of people only play past season two so we're no longer going to develop
57:05
anything past there.
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I'm going to.
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So season three, four, five, six is going to be exactly like season two.
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Yes.
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I'm going to read you the review that I made of this game because I feel like I put it
57:15
all together pretty nicely.
57:17
I said I won't be buying a F1 25 if it's anything like this game, which historically it will
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be.
57:23
The new career recognition feature makes you play the game longer and makes you unable
57:27
to upgrade the car to a maximum level, which is funny because after the first season the
57:32
game starts to break.
57:33
It starts to crack.
57:34
I'm getting issues where, like I said, I don't get the weather, which is, it's a UI issue.
57:39
I don't really care that much.
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But I'm also getting issues where I'll go into races and it just won't start the race.
57:45
We'll be in the starting grid forever and it will never start the race or it'll put
57:48
me in positions that are not my own.
57:51
They added, or I have a crash mid-race.
57:54
They added secret meetings for really cool, but the end of the season, if you won the
57:57
entire WDC, you still only get to pick whatever your recognition allows you to, which makes
58:03
you grind even more.
58:05
The currency of the game is relatively easy to get if you play the game and if you buy
58:10
the season pass.
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But the currency is only very select to a very certain amount of items, their cosmetics,
58:16
that they want you to pay actual real life money for.
58:19
They made them incredibly expensive.
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Then they also just released an update.
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I don't think they released it.
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They pulled it back because of the stuff they were getting from it, the reviews they were
58:28
getting from it.
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They wanted to put an expiration date on that currency that you buy as well.
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Oh, yeah.
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That's bogus.
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So my biggest complaint- That's EA Sports, man.
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EA, yes.
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EA is an awful studio.
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Same thing in Madden and all them.
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It's there in offer studio.
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It's pay to play.
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They publish unfinished games.
58:45
They repeat previous yearly games with no significant improvements to design, mechanics,
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functionalities, quality of life.
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And Codemasters is not doing a very good job as well.
58:56
F123 sucked too, but it was better than F124 at least.
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So I will not be buying F125.
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You are boycotting F125.
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I'm-
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I just-
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The EA F1 series is done for you.
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I tried it.
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It's my favorite sport.
59:11
It's the only sport game I want to buy and play.
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Does iRacing offer Formula One?
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iRacing is so expensive.
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It is, though.
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No, trust me.
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You have to get to a really good- I am not good.
59:22
I want to be clear, but it's fun to drive.
59:24
I'm decent, but I'm not good.
59:26
You need to be good to get to that level in iRacing.
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You can't just jump into an F1 car and then play the game.
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Yeah, fair enough.
59:33
It's tough.
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So this is your main only option and it's-
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Yes.
59:38
It's done.
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F124-
59:40
They're focusing more on the liveries and the pay to play situation.
59:43
Yeah, and they have this challenge career mode which got really old really quickly.
59:47
Once again, it locks you into a six race season that takes a long time, so you're grinding
59:53
again.
59:54
I haven't played in any of the multiplayer, to be fair, so that could be a redeeming quality
59:58
of the game, but otherwise they just repackage the game.
1:00:02
And they recently just said that they're going to stop fixing certain bugs until F125.
1:00:06
In fact, I think they said that.
1:00:08
They're going to stop fixing bugs until F125.
1:00:09
So the game's already dead to them, which is exactly how EA works.
1:00:13
They want to start working up on F125 and it's like, great.
1:00:16
There are tracks with bugs that when you get onto a certain part of the track, there's
1:00:20
a bump that sends your car flying off way.
1:00:22
Like random invisible bumps that you can get into.
1:00:25
Sweet.
1:00:26
I've talked too much about a video game.
1:00:28
No, you're fine.
1:00:29
I'm heated.
1:00:30
We wanted to know how you felt and now everybody knows.
1:00:33
I relived this.
1:00:34
I made this review two or three weeks ago and so I relived this as I was talking about
1:00:38
it with other friends and now I'm bringing it up.
1:00:41
The energy off of you reliving.
1:00:43
I'm a very passionate gamer and I feel screwed over.
1:00:46
Yeah, no doubt.
1:00:47
You pay money for it.
1:00:48
You want to get a good product and it's just not a good product.
1:00:52
Don't buy F125.
1:00:53
Don't buy F125.
1:00:54
Wait to buy F125.
1:00:56
Do not buy it day one.
1:00:58
Do not buy it day one.
1:00:59
Wait to see until reviews come out.
1:01:00
Yeah, they're not going to be good reviews.
1:01:02
Hey, spoiler alert.
1:01:03
It's not going to be good, but don't buy the deluxe edition or whatever.
1:01:08
Don't spend your money until you're absolutely ready.
1:01:11
Or I said this in chat, buy F123 and mod it.
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Do that instead.
1:01:15
Just mod it so it's like your year.
1:01:17
We're never getting sponsored by ESports.
1:01:20
That's okay.
1:01:21
I would decline.
1:01:22
It'd be a lot of money probably.
1:01:25
But with that, let's head with that, let's head right into our Brazil preview.
1:02:26
And right back at it here to start off our Brazil preview.
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Like always, like I said at the beginning of the show, this one's just called Joe's.
1:02:44
Apostrophe S though.
1:02:46
So he owns it.
1:02:47
It's his.
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Yes.
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This is Joe's recap of Brazil last year.
1:02:51
It is not Joe's review of F124.
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I got it out of my system though, so now we can move on.
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So this year, Formula One Lenovo Grande Premio de São Paulo 2024.
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Fun fact, since the hybrid power units were released, thank you.
1:03:08
Mercedes has won here all but three times since the new hybrid power units.
1:03:16
I know I said I wasn't going to talk about it, but on the game, this track feels like
1:03:20
a roller coaster.
1:03:21
Like there's a lot of altitude changes and turns.
1:03:23
In 2022, KMAG got pole position at the track in a Haas.
1:03:30
I believe this is the year when like a literal monsoon finished the qualifying session.
1:03:34
I don't know if you remember, but like it was qualifying and then all of a sudden it
1:03:38
got really dark and then it just started calming down.
1:03:41
KMAG was the only one that switched tires too?
1:03:43
I don't think, no, they didn't race.
1:03:45
I think they got like shut because they, some of them.
1:03:48
I'm thinking of a different KMAG situation.
1:03:49
Yeah.
1:03:50
I think some of them were able to get laps out, but they already had soft laps.
1:03:53
So they wouldn't go out on wets.
1:03:55
And I think the FIA shut down the race or shut down qualifying because of how bad it
1:04:01
was.
1:04:02
Yeah.
1:04:03
Sure.
1:04:04
So getting into the recaps, our starting grid is Max to Charles to Lance.
1:04:07
Starting the race off strong, Charles Eclair has a hydraulic fault during the formation
1:04:11
lap, locks up and spins directly into the wall.
1:04:14
I forget about that.
1:04:16
Yeah, me too.
1:04:17
So with that being said, our starting grid is Max, Lance, and then Fernando.
1:04:22
Off the line, Lando and Lewis get an incredible start and jet ahead of both of the Aston Martins.
1:04:27
Meanwhile, a couple of car lengths behind them, Hulkenberg and Alban make contact, sending
1:04:32
the Williams careening out of control further up the grid, which collects the Haas of KMAG.
1:04:36
Hult continues forward while KMAG and Alban find themselves in the wall.
1:04:40
Unfortunately, Danny Rick is caught in the carnage as a piece of debris hits his back
1:04:44
wing and breaks it.
1:04:45
I think a wheel literally like bounced off the track and just took out his rear wing.
1:04:49
Poor Danny Rick.
1:04:50
Yeah.
1:04:51
And then a car into a red flag is then called out.
1:04:53
So with that being said, our restart...
1:04:55
Charles hits hard too.
1:04:56
Yeah, yeah, seriously.
1:04:58
With that being said, our restarting grid is Max to Lando to Lewis.
1:05:02
We see another great start from Max who rockets ahead, leaving Lando and Lewis to tussle at
1:05:06
the first corner.
1:05:07
Everyone is able to keep it out of the wall and the race finally starts.
1:05:10
At the end of the first straight at turn five, Alonso takes third place back from Lewis,
1:05:15
who tries to fight back at the next corner but needs to back off.
1:05:18
At the 8th we watch as Lando trails Max on the starting straight, three tenths behind
1:05:22
with DRS open.
1:05:23
He can't make the move on the straight and unfortunately Max's defense holds him off
1:05:26
onto the next one as well.
1:05:28
He slots him behind Max who begins to form a gap.
1:05:31
Lap 14, Perez makes a move on George for fifth and sticks it in the first corner.
1:05:35
George responds immediately by tacking at the next corner, following closely behind
1:05:38
with DRS.
1:05:39
However, Perez takes the inside, blocks any attempt of an overtake.
1:05:43
And the four laps later we watch as Perez makes the move on Hamilton for fourth, utilizing
1:05:46
some of the Red Bull power.
1:05:48
This is where we see it start coming from a Perez kind of show to a Mercedes downfall.
1:05:57
Stroll overtakes Russell for his net six position after they both pit.
1:06:00
On lap 27, Stroll makes the move on the other Mercedes for fifth place.
1:06:05
More cars begin overtaking the Mercedes as Carlos takes George and then Lewis, pushing
1:06:10
them down to seventh and sixth.
1:06:12
There's more.
1:06:13
Here, Gasly in the Alpine overtakes Russell on lap 47 and then makes the same move on
1:06:18
Hamilton three laps later.
1:06:19
The commentators calling it not a contest at all.
1:06:22
The Mercedes was in shambles this race.
1:06:25
As I was watching the highlights, I was like, I remember feeling like I was helpless watching
1:06:29
them.
1:06:30
Just like falling down the grid.
1:06:31
It was so rough.
1:06:34
While this is all happening, I wrote this down, both Alfa Romeo's have also DNF'd.
1:06:39
The highlights did not cover that, so I'm guessing they were just being Alfa Romeo's.
1:06:45
Speaking of retires, George retires on lap 59 due to car issues, bringing him mercy to
1:06:50
the awful day he was already having.
1:06:52
Unfortunately losing out a couple of points.
1:06:54
Where did George start again though?
1:06:55
Did you have that?
1:06:56
I forget.
1:06:57
He started in...
1:06:58
He was up there.
1:06:59
He was up there.
1:07:00
Fifth?
1:07:01
Yeah.
1:07:02
Okay.
1:07:03
Yeah, he started in fifth.
1:07:04
Okay.
1:07:05
Lap 70 of 71, Sergio makes the move on Alonso at turn one for the final podium position
1:07:09
and sticks it and he keeps it through the next corner.
1:07:12
At the last lap of the race, Alonso gets ready to fight back and goes along at the straight
1:07:17
before turn three, makes the overtake and slides in front of Checo as they finish the
1:07:21
corner.
1:07:22
This fight continues through this last lap and they were close to being side to side
1:07:25
when they crossed the finish line.
1:07:27
Alonso just barely making the position with Checo.
1:07:30
DRS open, rocketship behind him.
1:07:33
Alonso gets third by 53 thousandths of a second.
1:07:37
So our finalist, Max Lando Alonso, Checo's stroll signs, Gastly, Hamilton and Sonota.
1:07:42
Yeah, and Checo, yeah, I'm seeing it here.
1:07:45
Checo is charging hard right there.
1:07:46
Yeah, he was charging.
1:07:47
Yeah, he was giving it everything he had.
1:07:48
I was watching him do that and it was actually kind of making me...
1:07:51
It was making me question a little bit about how I should do my podium this week.
1:07:56
I question a lot of things right now.
1:07:59
Yeah, and then I was...
1:08:00
But I was thinking about it and I was like, okay, but last year Checo actually won a couple
1:08:03
races.
1:08:04
Checo has been just... Abysmal.
1:08:07
Constantly bad.
1:08:08
Only 14 cars finished that race last year.
1:08:10
Yes, yeah, it was a lot of DNFs.
1:08:13
That's wild.
1:08:14
So before we get into our predictions, we got to give you a points update.
1:08:19
Finally, I got it all together.
1:08:21
Again, we did not do any bonus points last week.
1:08:25
So Tyler is leading us at 44 points.
1:08:30
Cole made a jump.
1:08:31
Cole is two points behind at 42.
1:08:35
I am behind him at 36.
1:08:38
Next step down.
1:08:39
And then Joe is two points behind me at 34.
1:08:42
So Joe and I are battling for third.
1:08:45
Wait, we're battling for...
1:08:46
Oh yeah, third.
1:08:47
There's only four of us.
1:08:48
Essentially.
1:08:49
Yeah, yeah.
1:08:50
You got excited for a minute?
1:08:51
I was like, yeah.
1:08:52
It's like third of the podium.
1:08:53
I'm almost in points.
1:08:54
Yeah, yeah.
1:08:55
No, so to start us off, Tyler, since he's leading, we'll go ahead and give his podium
1:09:05
first.
1:09:06
Tyler's podium is Charles, Orlando, and Science.
1:09:12
Charles, Orlando, and Science.
1:09:15
I think that's a really good prediction.
1:09:17
Cole, same podium.
1:09:19
Charles, Orlando, and Science.
1:09:25
And since I'm next, I am also going Charles, Orlando, but I'm going to get crazy because
1:09:33
I need to take a shot.
1:09:35
I'm going Charles, Orlando, and I just, I don't know, considering where the Mercedes
1:09:42
started last year.
1:09:43
You're not about to say Mercedes, are you?
1:09:45
Where the Aston's finished last year.
1:09:47
It makes me feel...
1:09:48
But it's going to be...
1:09:53
Man.
1:09:55
Say it out loud.
1:09:57
But George, I'm going George for P3.
1:10:00
I really wanted to go Lewis since I decided I was going to go Mercedes anyway, but it's,
1:10:07
I don't know, man.
1:10:08
I got to take a shot at something, and right now I'm not feeling like it's Max, which is
1:10:12
wild to say, but especially when Cole and Tyler don't take Max.
1:10:19
There's an opportunity there to move up one.
1:10:21
All right, Joe, lay it on us.
1:10:25
Okay.
1:10:26
So the two that I'm for sure going to keep in my podium are going to be Max and Lando.
1:10:29
Whoa, Max living in the podium too, huh?
1:10:33
I think, I mean, I just...
1:10:36
You guys haven't picked them, so that's...
1:10:37
Multi-time world champion.
1:10:38
That's what I'm saying.
1:10:39
You guys haven't picked them, so now it's a safe bet.
1:10:40
That's why I had to do something.
1:10:41
It's not a safe bet for me, but it's a good opportunity for me to get points.
1:10:44
And I think even though he's slow in his car right now, he's still fast enough to make
1:10:49
podium, I think.
1:10:50
Oh, I thought you were going like check out for a second for the third spot.
1:10:53
I was like, wait a minute.
1:10:54
So my third is between Charles and Sines.
1:11:02
Charles did not race in this...
1:11:05
He did not race last year because he crashed in formation.
1:11:11
Carlos coming off a win.
1:11:12
And he finished okay last year at this race.
1:11:21
He finished in sixth.
1:11:24
Charles qualified second.
1:11:26
So on my piece of paper, I have Max, Lando, and Carlos.
1:11:30
I'm going to say Max, Lando, and Charles.
1:11:32
Max, Lando, and Charles.
1:11:34
I think Charles obviously has pace in qualifying, and I'm hoping he can show that in the race
1:11:41
as well.
1:11:42
Hopefully he doesn't crash in formation again.
1:11:44
That would suck.
1:11:45
Sure, sure, for sure.
1:11:46
Yeah.
1:11:47
So we all have Charles and Lando on the podium.
1:11:48
That's wild.
1:11:50
Let me just...
1:11:51
Does one of us have...
1:11:52
Oh, and then they have Carlos as well though.
1:11:53
Yeah.
1:11:54
They have Sines.
1:11:55
Yeah.
1:11:56
Man, watch Oscar get on the podium.
1:11:57
That'd be sick.
1:11:58
So just because I think it's funny, the first race of the year, Bahrain, we all had Verstappen
1:12:02
on the podium.
1:12:06
Two of us had Lewis on the podium.
1:12:08
Another two...
1:12:09
Two did have Lando.
1:12:11
And then we had...
1:12:12
The other two had Leclerc.
1:12:14
And you had Jekyll.
1:12:16
But at that time, we figured that Red Bull would be doing...
1:12:19
Yep.
1:12:20
It wasn't that outlandish.
1:12:22
Our bonus point this week is where will K-Meg finish his exact placement?
1:12:29
How many points are we going to get for that?
1:12:31
That's two.
1:12:32
Two?
1:12:33
Bonus two point.
1:12:34
Bonus two point.
1:12:35
Should we do something crazy for Abu Dhabi who wins for bonus five points?
1:12:38
Or whatever the difference is between you and first or something?
1:12:41
I think we should...
1:12:42
Maybe.
1:12:43
We should have our podium predictions, but we should slot them in exactly where we think
1:12:47
they're going to be and then have two points for each.
1:12:50
Well I get...
1:12:51
We're going to do that.
1:12:52
All right.
1:12:53
So where will K-Meg finish this week?
1:12:54
Whoops.
1:12:55
Fin-ish.
1:12:56
Can't spell.
1:12:57
Tyler says...
1:12:58
11th.
1:12:59
P11.
1:13:00
Cole says P13.
1:13:01
Hit them outside of points.
1:13:02
I really want to see that.
1:13:03
I'm going to go with P11.
1:13:04
P11.
1:13:05
P11.
1:13:06
P11.
1:13:07
I really wanted to do P11 with Tyler, to be honest with you.
1:13:12
But I want to take advantage of the points.
1:13:18
I don't want nobody else to be getting them.
1:13:21
So I'm going to go with P12 actually.
1:13:24
None of you are putting them in points.
1:13:26
You want P10?
1:13:27
I want P10.
1:13:28
P10.
1:13:29
I thought about it, but P10.
1:13:30
All right.
1:13:31
It sucks because it's very possible none of us could get points here.
1:13:34
If he gets P9.
1:13:35
Yeah.
1:13:36
But if one of us does, if it's you, you're now tied with me, depending on how the rest
1:13:40
of the podium shakes out.
1:13:42
If it's Tyler, he just increases that lead over Cole.
1:13:45
So if it's Cole, he might be right there with Tyler now tied for the lead going in the next
1:13:50
week.
1:13:51
So I think it's great that we all picked something different for the bonus points because somebody
1:13:56
could win, or none of us.
1:13:57
You're right.
1:13:58
But not all of us.
1:13:59
It won't be more than one of us getting the bonus points this week.
1:14:03
Yeah, that's true.
1:14:04
So no, that's interesting.
1:14:05
That's actually a really good point.
1:14:06
Yeah.
1:14:07
I do like having, yeah, we have 20 options to choose from.
1:14:10
Yeah.
1:14:11
Yeah.
1:14:12
And maybe that's our rule now for bonus points.
1:14:14
Is first place goes first or last place goes first?
1:14:18
So for them not being here, we'll just have to ask them or something.
1:14:22
Yeah.
1:14:23
We'll figure it out.
1:14:24
We'll figure it out.
1:14:25
But I do like that everybody's got a different thing.
1:14:27
Somebody's getting two points out of this weekend or nobody.
1:14:29
No.
1:14:30
Yeah, no one.
1:14:31
Yeah.
1:14:32
So with that, again, thank you for staying with us this long.
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Don't forget to like, comment, subscribe, whether it's YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts,
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wherever you listen to the banter.
1:14:44
And we do have one next week as well, I believe.
1:14:46
Nope.
1:14:47
No.
1:14:48
Are you sure?
1:14:49
Are you sure?
1:14:50
Hold on.
1:14:51
Stand by.
1:14:52
Stand by.
1:14:53
No, we do.
1:14:54
After I already did the closing thing too.
1:14:55
Darn it.