Latest / Clydesdale Media Podcast / Sunday Night CrossFit Talk - Alex Gazan Withdraws from CrossFit Games!
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- 0:29good sunday evening
- 0:30everybody it is time for
- 0:32sunday sunday sunday night
- 0:35crossfit talk I really got
- 0:38to record that just so I
- 0:39can hit a button that's a
- 0:41good idea one of these
- 0:42times I'm just gonna like
- 0:43my voice is gonna be like
- 0:44that's it we're done um
- 0:49But yeah, fun weekend,
- 0:51super sunny here in Columbus, Ohio,
- 0:54super hot.
- 0:56But we did get a little bit of a breeze,
- 0:57which was different than
- 0:58like days before.
- 1:02But yeah,
- 1:02fun weekend to get some stuff
- 1:03done around the house.
- 1:05Got my garage completely cleaned out.
- 1:07Now I can work out fully
- 1:09with every option available to me.
- 1:12Really excited about that.
- 1:14That's great.
- 1:16Yeah.
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- 2:20Jamie, you were on a boat all weekend.
- 2:23I was.
- 2:24How was that?
- 2:27I mean,
- 2:28can you complain when you're on a boat?
- 2:29No.
- 2:30No.
- 2:32You're still in Lake Michigan.
- 2:34I get seasick.
- 2:36Well, that's fair.
- 2:38And actually,
- 2:40Lake Michigan did get a little choppy.
- 2:42We were out there.
- 2:44on the fourth and my niece
- 2:47got a little bit sick out there.
- 2:49So, and she's on that boat all,
- 2:52all the time.
- 2:53It just, it, it did get pretty choppy, but,
- 2:57um,
- 2:57Yeah,
- 2:58I've been a Lake Erie guy my whole life.
- 3:00I grew up in northwestern
- 3:01Pennsylvania and then moved
- 3:03to Ohio later in life.
- 3:04And so it's always been Lake Erie for me.
- 3:08And then last year I came up
- 3:09to you and went to Lake Michigan.
- 3:12And you guys have us beat
- 3:13ten ways to Sunday on the lakes.
- 3:17I...
- 3:18Julie and I were both
- 3:19lamenting that we know
- 3:20Fresh Coast is coming up
- 3:21this weekend with the big
- 3:23CrossFit event out on the beach.
- 3:25That's where we were at last year.
- 3:27It's an amazing event in a
- 3:30most beautiful beach on Lake Michigan.
- 3:34Just really, really a cool place.
- 3:36And, you know,
- 3:37the Mayhem crews show up and compete,
- 3:40which is kind of fun too.
- 3:41Yeah.
- 3:44Well, look at that.
- 3:45Grant, when I'm depressed,
- 3:46the show makes me feel happy.
- 3:48well thanks um uh ken
- 3:54walters lake superior north
- 3:56of duluth to canada was is
- 3:58my great lakes jam yeah and
- 4:02I and I know uh carolyn's
- 4:04gonna go with the canadian
- 4:05lake superior as well well
- 4:08I lived in sarangin I had lake huron
- 4:13That one's nice.
- 4:14It's just cold.
- 4:16Lake Michigan was totally
- 4:18tolerable this weekend.
- 4:20I was surprised.
- 4:23In Toronto, it's like Ontario,
- 4:24but that one can be nasty
- 4:26to swim in and do things sometimes.
- 4:29Always got to check the
- 4:30water E. coli levels if
- 4:31it's healthy enough to go.
- 4:33That's been a pretty big
- 4:34thing this summer.
- 4:38A lot of beaches have been closed.
- 4:41You know,
- 4:41we haven't had to talk about that
- 4:43at the CrossFit Games in a
- 4:44couple of years with the E. coli levels.
- 4:47And so kind of out of sight
- 4:50and out of mind.
- 4:55Yeah.
- 4:57Anything else here in the comments?
- 5:00Kenneth DeLapp,
- 5:01a member for thirteen months.
- 5:03Woo.
- 5:04Yo.
- 5:05Thirteen month anniversary.
- 5:07Thank you so much, Kenneth.
- 5:08You are one of the best.
- 5:12So before we get into the big news,
- 5:14just have one more funny
- 5:16happy feet moment for all
- 5:17the people saying they come
- 5:18here for the happy.
- 5:19If you didn't see it today,
- 5:21Rich Froning threw out the
- 5:23first pitch at the Tigers game.
- 5:26I totally missed that.
- 5:28And what's crazy is, like,
- 5:31if you don't follow baseball...
- 5:34when you're throwing out the first pitch,
- 5:35you are on an elevation.
- 5:37Like I was a pitcher in high school.
- 5:39You are elevated up above
- 5:42and it makes it hard for
- 5:43that first pitch if you go
- 5:45up on top of the mound.
- 5:46Rich did that.
- 5:50Well,
- 5:50most people that throw the first
- 5:52pitch don't even go from the mound.
- 5:55They don't want to risk
- 5:57throwing from there.
- 5:57So they're always way in and
- 6:00still miss the plate.
- 6:01So Rich did it the correct
- 6:03way and nailed it.
- 6:05But just to make us happy,
- 6:07before I show Rich's first pitch,
- 6:10I pulled up the worst first
- 6:11pitch of all time.
- 6:14Okay.
- 6:14Are you guys ready?
- 6:15Yes.
- 6:17So at a New York Mets game,
- 6:20fifty cent fifty cent
- 6:22throughout the first pitch
- 6:24it is the worst first pitch
- 6:25of all time and so let's
- 6:27start with that and his
- 6:29first pitch was not great
- 6:32oh a bit outside what can
- 6:35you say just a bit outside
- 6:42worst first pitch in
- 6:43history that's pretty bad
- 6:47So now that we've seen what
- 6:49Fitty Sink can do, let's see.
- 6:51Thank God they didn't ask
- 6:52Jason Kalipa to throw out
- 6:53the first pitch.
- 6:56And then there's like Simone
- 6:56Biles that does her big triple.
- 7:00I don't even know what kind
- 7:01of flip she did in spinny
- 7:02and then threw it.
- 7:06Lots of different styles of throws.
- 7:09Here is Rich.
- 7:10I'm going to try to blow it
- 7:11up a little bit.
- 7:11It's actually someone
- 7:12filming the Jumbotron
- 7:14because they were at an
- 7:15angle where you couldn't really see it.
- 7:17so I'm trying to get this as
- 7:19big as I can and we'll
- 7:21start her now not too bad
- 7:31maybe a tad bit inside if
- 7:32you're throwing to a
- 7:33right-handed hitter but
- 7:35pretty doggone close so pretty awesome
- 7:44What an honor to get to
- 7:46throw out the first pitch of the game.
- 7:48Yeah.
- 7:49And to do that.
- 7:50And that's his favorite team, right?
- 7:51He grew up loving the Tigers,
- 7:54so that's hard enough to do.
- 8:00Andrew Sten says,
- 8:02remember Rich also played baseball,
- 8:04played a bit of college too.
- 8:05He did.
- 8:06He did.
- 8:07But I'm telling you,
- 8:08he played like shortstop.
- 8:09Yeah.
- 8:10Yeah.
- 8:11When you're throwing from
- 8:12that mound and you're
- 8:13elevated like nine feet up off the ground,
- 8:16off the turf, it is a different thing.
- 8:19It is a different animal.
- 8:21And you really have to kind of aim low.
- 8:27Tyler Watkins says,
- 8:31Taylor Luan absolutely
- 8:33shanked it a couple weeks ago.
- 8:34I did see that one too.
- 8:36But for me,
- 8:36Fittysent is all-time worst of
- 8:38everything.
- 8:43Meredith Jones joins the channel.
- 8:45Thank you so much, Meredith.
- 8:47We love seeing you here
- 8:48every each and every week.
- 8:51So, so we got that out of the way.
- 8:55Now, the big news.
- 8:57And that is that this
- 8:58morning on Instagram.
- 9:01and then on the Savant podcast,
- 9:02and then on Barbell Spin,
- 9:05we got the announcement
- 9:06throughout the day that
- 9:07Alex Kazan has decided in
- 9:10order to be safe for her future,
- 9:14they felt it be best that
- 9:17she not pursue the CrossFit
- 9:19Games this year and withdraw,
- 9:21and she will be in
- 9:22attendance as a spectator,
- 9:24but she is not going to
- 9:26participate this year in
- 9:27the CrossFit Games.
- 9:29If you've been following
- 9:30along when we were at
- 9:34NorCal and there was a wild,
- 9:35wacky ending and all that stuff.
- 9:38And then the car accident happened.
- 9:40Thank God her and Jake are
- 9:41still alive and doing well.
- 9:44But there was a question as
- 9:45to whether or not Carolyn
- 9:48would be the backfill for
- 9:50Alex after that car accident.
- 9:54Carolyn did inform us on the
- 9:56show that she got a call from CrossFit.
- 9:59She had talked to Alex,
- 10:01and then it was a waiting game to see.
- 10:03They had put a deadline in place.
- 10:06Carolyn did not divulge any
- 10:07of the details of that conversation,
- 10:09as that was Alex's story to tell.
- 10:15But it's been,
- 10:16we have not talked since this morning.
- 10:20Any new news today, Carolyn?
- 10:23I haven't received anything
- 10:24from CrossFit yet,
- 10:25so I haven't booked anything or...
- 10:29To me,
- 10:29like it won't be official until I
- 10:31get an actual invite.
- 10:33But Alex,
- 10:34Alex has been extremely nice and
- 10:38she's messaged me here and
- 10:39there throughout the
- 10:39process to kind of keep me
- 10:41informed on how she's doing
- 10:43and stuff like that.
- 10:44So and she didn't have to do that, too.
- 10:46And so I've been very
- 10:47appreciative of the
- 10:49conversations that I've had with her.
- 10:50And obviously, it's not the way that
- 10:54I imagine to get a spot to
- 10:56the games this year.
- 10:58And, you know,
- 11:00my heart's obviously with
- 11:02Alex and I know that's a
- 11:03difficult decision to make,
- 11:05but her future is so bright.
- 11:07And there's just looking at
- 11:08all the comps that she, you know,
- 11:10most likely have the
- 11:12opportunity to do within
- 11:13the next few months.
- 11:14Like there's quite a bit there.
- 11:17So hopefully she is well
- 11:20recovered and she's able to, you know,
- 11:23finish out her,
- 11:24season because she's you
- 11:26know she's if not the
- 11:27fittest after tia right now
- 11:29um this year yeah she even
- 11:33said on savann this morning
- 11:34that if tia wouldn't have
- 11:36been there this would have
- 11:37been a much harder decision
- 11:38because she would have
- 11:39thought she thinks she
- 11:40could have won the crossfit
- 11:42games so actually tia being
- 11:44there makes it easier her
- 11:46made it easier for her to
- 11:49um make this decision
- 11:52So I was going to ask you
- 11:54this question before this
- 11:55news broke anyway, as someone who your,
- 11:57your main goal is a CrossFit games.
- 12:00And if, and let's be fair,
- 12:04you had an amazing performance at NorCal.
- 12:07Like you missed by a nose hair.
- 12:12Like it was really, really close.
- 12:17You have the,
- 12:17you know that there's this
- 12:18opportunity that may come
- 12:20to you with the CrossFit games and,
- 12:23As important as it is,
- 12:24how long were you willing
- 12:25to hold on to that hope?
- 12:29I know that you work out
- 12:30every day and you stay fit every day,
- 12:32but there's got to be a hope, plan,
- 12:36what if.
- 12:37How long do you hold on to
- 12:38that as it moves forward?
- 12:43Well,
- 12:43I had a certain date that was given to me,
- 12:46so I knew that it was
- 12:47already until that date,
- 12:49which was next week at some time.
- 12:51So I knew there was a possibility there.
- 12:54But I've been in that position before,
- 12:56like right outside, a few times actually.
- 12:59And even in
- 13:02was one spot out I continued
- 13:03to train throughout the
- 13:04whole way just you never
- 13:06know if someone tested
- 13:06positive if someone got
- 13:08injured like I had the
- 13:10mentality that I was
- 13:11training for the games
- 13:12regardless um in and then
- 13:15even in the years after
- 13:16that where I was really
- 13:17close I was like oh maybe
- 13:19I'll something will happen um
- 13:23Yeah,
- 13:23so I knew that there was a chance
- 13:24until next week.
- 13:26But again,
- 13:27I had been talking to Alex a little bit.
- 13:30And just knowing the extent
- 13:32of the injury from what she had posted,
- 13:35I was like,
- 13:36there is still a strong
- 13:38possibility that I could get a call up.
- 13:40So yeah, I mean,
- 13:44I was already training for
- 13:45the Masters CrossFit Games right now.
- 13:47So just need to be a little
- 13:51bit more in shape for
- 13:56This CrossFit Games.
- 13:56So that begs the next question.
- 13:59You qualified as the number
- 14:00one seed in the Masters age group.
- 14:03You've now, if official,
- 14:06will be going to the Elite
- 14:07CrossFit Games.
- 14:09Is your plan to do both?
- 14:10A hundred percent.
- 14:12For sure.
- 14:17and have you ever done two
- 14:21big competitions like that
- 14:23within three weeks of each
- 14:25other um I mean not that
- 14:30big no obviously no I mean
- 14:32you can't get any bigger
- 14:33than those two um competitions but
- 14:38Like I've always said,
- 14:39like I kind of train all
- 14:41year round the same type of volume.
- 14:43I just might change, you know,
- 14:45during the summer,
- 14:46I'm not running on an assault runner.
- 14:47I need to run outside or I
- 14:49add more unique elements in
- 14:50the summer as it's game string.
- 14:51But the volume to me kind of
- 14:53stays the same all year round.
- 14:55Um, even if I do, you know,
- 14:57I do a lot of like online
- 14:58qualifiers or online things too.
- 15:01So I don't know how much it'll impact.
- 15:04Um,
- 15:04hopefully I'm healthy enough to do
- 15:06obviously the master's games as well,
- 15:09but yeah, the plan would be to do,
- 15:11to do both.
- 15:14Um, I understand such a bummer for Alex,
- 15:18but great news for Carolyn, uh,
- 15:20Savon podcast.
- 15:21Congrats, Carolyn, uh, Lana holding her,
- 15:24holding her breath.
- 15:26Meredith, no, wrong one.
- 15:28Larry Young, not the way you want it,
- 15:30but make it count for you and even her.
- 15:34And that's one thing I told her too,
- 15:36is like,
- 15:37I know how much of a competitor Alex is.
- 15:39And, you know,
- 15:41a lot of times people will be like, oh,
- 15:43you know,
- 15:43people are just at the games to
- 15:45have fun and enjoy the
- 15:46experience and stuff.
- 15:47But I also want to do the
- 15:49best that I can knowing that like Alex,
- 15:52you know,
- 15:53was obviously a podium contender
- 15:54and earned, had earned that spot.
- 15:58And I don't want to just show up and,
- 16:01you know,
- 16:03just be there to have fun.
- 16:04Like I want to be able to
- 16:06prove to myself that I can
- 16:07still compete at a very
- 16:09high level and do the best that I can.
- 16:15I already mentioned that at NorCal you,
- 16:17you did really, really well.
- 16:19I have told you privately
- 16:20that I think it is the best
- 16:22you have looked on the
- 16:23competition floor in years.
- 16:26Um,
- 16:27and I really thought you had a shot
- 16:28watching you throughout that weekend.
- 16:31Um,
- 16:32do you feel like you are in
- 16:34the best shape of your life
- 16:36and the best fitness you've
- 16:37been in your life?
- 16:40Nope.
- 16:41No.
- 16:43I think when I was twenty
- 16:44eight to thirty years old,
- 16:46twenty eighteen to thirty,
- 16:47even thirty one,
- 16:49like I'm just being honest,
- 16:50like I think that's I just
- 16:53maybe didn't have the right
- 16:53programming every year,
- 16:55but like I'm I'm as fit now,
- 16:57like I'm holding on to certain stuff, but
- 17:01When I look at just like age-wise,
- 17:05I feel like I've been
- 17:05almost the same athlete the whole time.
- 17:07It just depends on programming.
- 17:08I felt like I had the least
- 17:09amount of pressure at NorCal this year,
- 17:11maybe because I had already
- 17:12a spot to the CrossFit
- 17:14Games for the Masters Division.
- 17:16And I think I came in with a
- 17:17different mentality,
- 17:21less pressure on myself
- 17:22than maybe in the past few
- 17:22years where I didn't
- 17:24perform the way I wanted to.
- 17:27But I don't know if I'm...
- 17:30My fitness to me,
- 17:31like there's certain stuff
- 17:32or lifts that I could do
- 17:33when I was a little bit younger.
- 17:36Certain things I'm just more
- 17:37experienced and maybe
- 17:38smarter in terms of maybe
- 17:41game plans and stuff like that.
- 17:43But it's hard to know.
- 17:44It depends on the workouts a lot of time.
- 17:49So you're saying that like fitness level,
- 17:52you're pretty steady.
- 17:53There's been a little bit of decline,
- 17:56but it's more of a mental
- 17:57thing that happened this year.
- 18:00Yeah, I'd say so.
- 18:01I mean, give it like,
- 18:04depending on the right workouts,
- 18:05like there's workouts that
- 18:06I can be very competitive with,
- 18:10even with the games field.
- 18:12Like I know that I have some
- 18:13wheelhouse stuff that I can
- 18:15continue to do,
- 18:17but the field has just gone so deep.
- 18:19So maybe that's a hard...
- 18:22maybe that's where I kind of
- 18:23compare myself because the
- 18:24field is just gone so much
- 18:26better over the years.
- 18:27So to me, what I see online, I'm like, Oh,
- 18:30like they're, you know, X, Y,
- 18:32and Z on these lists.
- 18:34And it's hard not to compare.
- 18:37So I might be similar,
- 18:39but the field is just so
- 18:41good and have to me, like,
- 18:43it just seems like less holes.
- 18:45Um,
- 18:47So I'm not sure.
- 18:48Maybe I'm pretty similar.
- 18:50But it's been pretty cool to
- 18:53see the longevity of just
- 18:55training consistently and
- 18:58listening to my body and
- 19:00doing all of other things
- 19:01in my life as well than CrossFit.
- 19:05I'm going to read a couple of these.
- 19:06Congrats.
- 19:06And then, Jamie,
- 19:07do you have any questions for Carolyn?
- 19:10Shanna Bunt says, yes, you'll smash both.
- 19:14Um, Jay Birch says, congrats, Carolyn.
- 19:17Uh, Vicki Carolyn is a class act.
- 19:19One hundred percent.
- 19:21Jay Birch or no Tia, Danielle Church,
- 19:24Daniel Church Tia better
- 19:26hope there's no ice skating
- 19:27up there in Albany.
- 19:29Um, uh,
- 19:34Savant says last time Carolyn was
- 19:35in Albany,
- 19:36she was an absolute freak
- 19:37mentally and physically.
- 19:38That was twenty eight, twenty eighteen.
- 19:40Was that that one?
- 19:43But I remember someone was there.
- 19:47I've never been to Albany.
- 19:48I know that we did regionals
- 19:49there back in the past.
- 19:51But this will be my first
- 19:52time up there for an event.
- 19:56So I'm super excited about that.
- 20:02You said that you train the
- 20:03same every day.
- 20:06Now that it's a pretty
- 20:08doggone sure bet that
- 20:09you're going to the games...
- 20:11Are you going to add like
- 20:12some odd objects?
- 20:13Are you going to add some
- 20:14things that you wouldn't normally add?
- 20:15Or is that it's still just same old,
- 20:18same old?
- 20:20I naturally do that every year.
- 20:22So once, so volume wise, it's the same,
- 20:26but the things I'll put
- 20:28into my programming will
- 20:29just change throughout the year.
- 20:31Like I've essentially almost
- 20:32trained for the games the last year.
- 20:34since twenty eighteen.
- 20:36And if it wasn't for the games,
- 20:37it was the demo team or, you know,
- 20:40anything like that possible tester for,
- 20:43you know,
- 20:43things or Rogue was coming up
- 20:45and I want to try to qualify.
- 20:46So I've always, you know,
- 20:48done certain things to get
- 20:49ready for the open that I
- 20:51know will pop up in the open.
- 20:52And then I add in a certain amount,
- 20:54you know,
- 20:54different types of higher skill
- 20:56things that will pop up for
- 20:57regionals or semifinals.
- 20:59And then once that's done, you know,
- 21:00I add in certain things
- 21:02that normally come up
- 21:03more for outdoor stuff or
- 21:05games or more odd objects things.
- 21:06So that's already the way
- 21:08that I program naturally
- 21:09for myself over the years.
- 21:11So nothing's really changed.
- 21:12I've already been doing some
- 21:15of that stuff.
- 21:18Kaylee Brock, yay, Carolyn.
- 21:20So the big question I've
- 21:21heard a lot today is, all right,
- 21:24she's been working on her
- 21:25double unders and she's
- 21:26gotten much better.
- 21:27How much work have you put
- 21:29in on the crossover double unders?
- 21:34I've been doing them the past,
- 21:37as soon as they released
- 21:38them on the CrossFit website,
- 21:41but I've been kind of
- 21:41playing around with the
- 21:42skill the last few years,
- 21:46like here and there.
- 21:47So I have them,
- 21:48I just don't know what the
- 21:53field looks like for that
- 21:54movement and how many
- 21:55they're going to program.
- 21:58Yeah.
- 22:00I had a workout today with them.
- 22:02It was eight rounds for time
- 22:03of thirty crossover double unders,
- 22:06twenty cow row and ten
- 22:10dumbbell clean and jerks.
- 22:11Preparing.
- 22:12There you go.
- 22:17All right.
- 22:17Well, cool.
- 22:18Well,
- 22:19that hit us pretty quick this morning.
- 22:23Been excited to talk to you all day.
- 22:26And my God, if this is all true,
- 22:30it's going to be really fun
- 22:31going to Albany and cheering you on.
- 22:35So back on the Rich Froning
- 22:38first pitch thing.
- 22:40While that was going on,
- 22:41someone sent me a DM.
- 22:44Ken Walters sent me a DM.
- 22:46And guess who else has
- 22:49thrown out a first pitch?
- 22:54Ken Walters.
- 23:00What year is that?
- 23:02He does not say.
- 23:05but that's pretty doggone cool.
- 23:08And I would frame it too.
- 23:09I would get as many pictures
- 23:10as I could and frame it.
- 23:12Um, just like he did.
- 23:15So.
- 23:16Ninety five.
- 23:22Um, Kenneth, the lab says, uh,
- 23:23looks like prime nineties
- 23:25and Ken does confirm.
- 23:27Nineteen ninety-five.
- 23:29Gosh, was,
- 23:30was Kirby Puckett still playing
- 23:31back then?
- 23:34Uh,
- 23:38Uh, Siobhan says,
- 23:39Carolyn's a martial artist talk.
- 23:40He was a hobby.
- 23:43I miss martial arts.
- 23:44That was the best I was
- 23:46going for a run the other day.
- 23:47And you know, when you're running,
- 23:48you have all these thought
- 23:48process and stuff.
- 23:50Um,
- 23:51but I was thinking back on just like
- 23:54the mental aspect that
- 23:57Taekwondo or just martial arts in general.
- 23:59I trained boxing as well and
- 24:01a little bit of jiu-jitsu.
- 24:02But just like the mental
- 24:04aspect of martial art and
- 24:05how much that helped me
- 24:06over my career in sports.
- 24:08Because physically, it's a great sport.
- 24:10And I've done a lot of
- 24:11sports in terms of physical stuff.
- 24:14think that gymnastics or you
- 24:16know hockey soccer whatever
- 24:18sport you do helps
- 24:19physically but I was as I
- 24:20was running the other day I
- 24:21was like listening to music
- 24:23and just trying to get
- 24:24myself you know back into
- 24:26the rhythm of things and I
- 24:27was like man the type of no
- 24:28part of my life just helped
- 24:30me so much like mentally
- 24:32for sports just a little taste
- 24:38See, like I look at that and I'm like,
- 24:40I feel so slow and flat
- 24:42footed compared to where I was before,
- 24:44but it's super fun to throw down.
- 24:46That's my gym in Toronto,
- 24:48CrossFit Coliseum.
- 24:49Yeah.
- 24:54before Carolyn and I really
- 24:55like formally met.
- 24:56Um, and the first time I interviewed her,
- 24:58like I was all about the, uh,
- 25:00when she was beating up Bob, um, in their,
- 25:03uh, martial arts gym.
- 25:05And we talked about that a
- 25:06lot the first time she was on.
- 25:08So yeah.
- 25:11Yeah.
- 25:12Maybe, maybe there's a, on the,
- 25:14that four mile part,
- 25:15part of the first run,
- 25:16you can just take
- 25:17competitors out as they try to pass you.
- 25:19I would definitely need that
- 25:21in that workout.
- 25:21Well,
- 25:25All right,
- 25:25so that is the big news of the day.
- 25:30And we'll probably talk
- 25:31about that a little bit
- 25:31more as we go through the
- 25:35rundown a little bit.
- 25:36The next thing up is,
- 25:39I know we had talked a
- 25:40little bit last week, Carolyn,
- 25:42that you may do the World
- 25:45Fitness Project qualifiers for event two.
- 25:47And then this happens.
- 25:50Are you still,
- 25:51have you decided one way or another,
- 25:53or did this change your mind completely?
- 25:57Yeah.
- 25:58No, I'm not doing that.
- 25:59It would be three comps in August.
- 26:02And honestly, it's just too expensive.
- 26:04I would do it.
- 26:05I just,
- 26:05I don't want to be spending that
- 26:06much money for three
- 26:08competitions in August.
- 26:11I love to compete.
- 26:12Like I like doing things,
- 26:13but when everything's out of your pocket,
- 26:15it's, it gets expensive.
- 26:17Yeah.
- 26:18Yeah.
- 26:19But the good news is you can
- 26:22earn money at these events
- 26:24that are coming up.
- 26:25So hopefully you can make
- 26:26back at least make back
- 26:28what you have to spend.
- 26:31Because realistically,
- 26:33you're going in as the
- 26:33number one seed in the Masters games.
- 26:36And you've been top twenty
- 26:40several times at the games.
- 26:43Right.
- 26:43You've been there three times.
- 26:45Top twenty.
- 26:46No,
- 26:46just just my first year in twenty
- 26:48nineteen, whereas twelve.
- 26:50And then after that,
- 26:51I was in the in the twenties.
- 26:55OK, I think mid to late or twenty seven,
- 26:58maybe twenty third or twenty second.
- 27:01The other one.
- 27:03So Jamie,
- 27:04you last time did the qualifiers
- 27:05for tour stop one qualified.
- 27:08And then because you didn't
- 27:09weigh your stuff got eliminated.
- 27:12Are you planning on doing
- 27:14the qualifiers or did you
- 27:15just enjoy the fourth?
- 27:16I enjoyed the fourth.
- 27:20I what their do what Tuesday?
- 27:22It's only like, I could maybe do them.
- 27:25I might,
- 27:25we'll see tomorrow how much time I have.
- 27:28Maybe I'll hit two of the workouts and.
- 27:31They do on Tuesday or they do tomorrow?
- 27:34I don't know.
- 27:34I just have what they are.
- 27:36Yeah.
- 27:37Um,
- 27:38the first one is look at an up and back
- 27:40chipper.
- 27:41I think two of the three are
- 27:42up and back chippers,
- 27:44like kind of in your wheelhouse, I guess.
- 27:46Ish.
- 27:47Um, row GHD dumbbell box, step over, um,
- 27:52dumbbell, clean and jerk dumbbell box,
- 27:53step over a GHD calorie row.
- 27:56And the second one is a nine
- 27:58facing bar facing burpee six snatch,
- 28:01three rope climb nine minute AMRAP.
- 28:05and the last one is twenty
- 28:07one thruster fourteen
- 28:08shuttle run forty two chest
- 28:09to bar pull up fourteen
- 28:10shuttle run twenty one
- 28:11thruster short and sweet
- 28:16any um any thoughts on the
- 28:19programming of those
- 28:20workouts I thought there
- 28:25would be more squatting in
- 28:26this round but you got
- 28:29thrusters yeah thruster and
- 28:31they're not light so twenty ones
- 28:34gross to hang on to.
- 28:40With that step over.
- 28:42Yeah.
- 28:43The thruster is pretty much it.
- 28:45Yeah.
- 28:46No, I like them.
- 28:46I think they're good workouts.
- 28:49They're less in my
- 28:50wheelhouse than the last set, but.
- 28:55But you still may try to get
- 28:57them in tomorrow and Tuesday.
- 28:58Yeah.
- 28:59Why not?
- 29:01All right, cool.
- 29:02I wouldn't go, but.
- 29:09might do the workouts.
- 29:12Okay.
- 29:12We have a question here.
- 29:13First of all, I'll ask you guys,
- 29:15did you guys see the Beat
- 29:16Baygent competition that was put up?
- 29:20Yep.
- 29:21Yeah, it was a great workout.
- 29:25Anybody taking it on?
- 29:26I will do it.
- 29:29Nice.
- 29:30I thought about you too.
- 29:30I was going to message you.
- 29:31I was like, you should do this one.
- 29:32It's a fun one.
- 29:33Very similar to the master's
- 29:35fitness workout that was
- 29:38two K row into one hundred
- 29:39and fifty burpees over the rower.
- 29:41And.
- 29:46I don't mean I didn't see
- 29:47any any girls times that
- 29:48were really near me.
- 29:53I know that there's no
- 29:54scaling for the females,
- 29:55but it would be interesting to get like,
- 29:57you know, seventy five to eighty cows,
- 29:58seventy to eighty cows for
- 29:59the females and then.
- 30:01Yeah.
- 30:03Then I think I would sign up.
- 30:06Do either of you think you
- 30:07can finish it as written?
- 30:11I was trying to math it and I just,
- 30:14I don't know.
- 30:17Folo got what, eighty-seven?
- 30:18Yeah.
- 30:20And she was moving on the burpees.
- 30:22Okay.
- 30:24Yeah,
- 30:24she has good burpees and she rode
- 30:27pretty well too.
- 30:28Yeah.
- 30:29I think I could be similar to that.
- 30:31I like burpees.
- 30:32I don't mind rowing.
- 30:36But I don't know.
- 30:36Finishing it,
- 30:37I think for the females would be tough.
- 30:38I think someone like Sam
- 30:43Briggs in her prime.
- 30:44Yeah.
- 30:48Trying to think of other
- 30:51females that had both good burpees and
- 30:54solid growing.
- 30:57It's a tough one.
- 30:57It's a it's well programmed.
- 30:59The time cap is is challenging for sure.
- 31:04I think that's intentional, right?
- 31:05That's like, that's what he was going for.
- 31:08Right.
- 31:08Is it be really for someone to, to,
- 31:12to beat it.
- 31:13And my big question for
- 31:15Jamie is say she wins this
- 31:17and she is given a Chicago
- 31:19bears Jersey signed by
- 31:20Tyson Bajan as a Detroit lions fan.
- 31:24Would she hang it in her house?
- 31:26I'd probably hang it at the gym.
- 31:34All right.
- 31:36Listen, I'm a Baygent fan.
- 31:39Yeah, I'm a Tigers fan,
- 31:40but I'm a Baygent fan.
- 31:42I talk him up everywhere I go.
- 31:46Yeah,
- 31:46it's been a wild week for me as a
- 31:48Bears fan and the Tyson
- 31:49Baygent stuff because my
- 31:52favorite Bears podcast
- 31:53followed him the same
- 31:54weekend Hiller followed him,
- 31:56and they both did different –
- 31:59They both came out with
- 31:59different videos that kind of overlapped.
- 32:02Like, on the CHGO one,
- 32:04you could hear Hiller in
- 32:05the background talking
- 32:07while they're interviewing Tyson.
- 32:10It was just really cool to
- 32:13get that much Tyson in and
- 32:15that much Bears talk and
- 32:16that much CrossFit talk all
- 32:18in the same kind of
- 32:20condensed area for a couple weeks.
- 32:24It was really cool.
- 32:25And Tyson's just the dude.
- 32:28So...
- 32:30Yeah, we know top female gets a jersey.
- 32:32I just want to know if she'd
- 32:34hang it in the Detroit area.
- 32:38Does that mean they have to beat Erica?
- 32:42Yeah, that's top female.
- 32:43She's signed up.
- 32:44She's top female right now.
- 32:46I think you've got to beat her score.
- 32:49You've got to go back and
- 32:50watch the video and then
- 32:51look at all the paces.
- 32:52I know.
- 32:55Ken, I would never want her trophy.
- 32:57it's I I would know it's a
- 32:59trophy I would know it's a
- 33:00trophy and I wouldn't want
- 33:01that like that's that'd be
- 33:03like taking carolyn's metal
- 33:06from something and hanging
- 33:07it in my like just dumb but
- 33:16maybe someday I can meet
- 33:17tyson and I can get him to sign something
- 33:21I actually have a big
- 33:22full-size Bears helmet that
- 33:24I have had all different
- 33:28Bears sign it over the years.
- 33:29So we don't have to beat Erica.
- 33:35Okay.
- 33:35Erica's not square.
- 33:40Good.
- 33:40All right.
- 33:41I think you still need to.
- 33:43I think you have a great shot at this one.
- 33:44This is... Yeah, I do like the workout.
- 33:48I don't want to put more pressure on you.
- 33:53Andrew, I sent you a message.
- 33:54Are you going to ever read your DMs?
- 33:57I need your guidance.
- 33:59Well, you sent him five pages.
- 34:02I know.
- 34:03I have a lot of questions.
- 34:04The man's busy.
- 34:06I know.
- 34:09All right.
- 34:10Well...
- 34:12yeah beep agent it's only
- 34:13five bucks on competition
- 34:14corner plus like a
- 34:16processing fee I think it
- 34:17turns out to be like seven
- 34:18bucks for the whole thing
- 34:20and the proceeds go to a
- 34:22local affiliate in uh the
- 34:24chicago area uh that is a
- 34:26choice of uh andrew and I
- 34:29think that's awesome so uh go support
- 34:34Right now,
- 34:35he has more sign-ups than the
- 34:38World Fitness Project's community series.
- 34:44And I've only signed up for Beat Bajan.
- 34:46I have not signed up for
- 34:47World Fitness Project.
- 34:49But I do think that the
- 34:51workout is more accessible than the WFP.
- 34:53So I don't know if it's hard
- 34:55if you could compare both of them,
- 34:57but yes, it's, and I do like that.
- 35:01He's going to go and do that
- 35:03for a local affiliate.
- 35:04I think that's awesome.
- 35:07Yeah,
- 35:08I've been on the horn all week on my
- 35:10lunch shows that the
- 35:12affiliates are where the
- 35:13magic's at with everything.
- 35:14And I think people are
- 35:16losing sight of that.
- 35:18A lot of the success that
- 35:19people have had over the
- 35:20years in both health and
- 35:22fitness have come from the
- 35:23affiliate level.
- 35:24And...
- 35:26We bash HQ for all of their
- 35:28actions and what they do,
- 35:29but none of that has
- 35:31changed the way the
- 35:32affiliates treat their
- 35:33customers and the people
- 35:35who walk through that door.
- 35:37And I really needed that
- 35:38wake-up call over the last
- 35:40few weeks and I've been
- 35:41really kind of hammering that home.
- 35:44And so I love that he's
- 35:45giving to a local affiliate
- 35:46because that truly is where
- 35:48people get their lives changed.
- 35:52So...
- 35:56also found out that uh
- 35:58bethany is pregnant yeah
- 36:01her and randy are going to
- 36:03give birth she was pregnant
- 36:04at the world fitness
- 36:05project um we all thought
- 36:07it was a back injury
- 36:09apparently it was a belly
- 36:10injury not injury though
- 36:12just a belly congrats to
- 36:13them that's exciting
- 36:19So it was going to be a late news day,
- 36:22and so I put out to you guys,
- 36:23what are the top five
- 36:25CrossFit events of all time?
- 36:28Games workouts, correct?
- 36:29Games workouts.
- 36:32Okay.
- 36:32CrossFit games workouts.
- 36:33What I did is I just went
- 36:35from the top of my head,
- 36:36like what I remembered the most.
- 36:40I didn't do a lot of research,
- 36:41so I'm sure there's ones I
- 36:43will miss that are –
- 36:48that are really cool tests
- 36:50or whatever we want to call
- 36:52those pieces of the CrossFit games.
- 36:55But I'll go first.
- 36:56Cause I'm, I'm like the less,
- 36:58the least programming
- 36:59savant of all of this.
- 37:01And so mine are from five to one,
- 37:04five is push pull from two
- 37:06thousand fourteen.
- 37:09which was the handstand
- 37:10pushups and the pull the sled.
- 37:13Four was the sandbag clean
- 37:14from twenty twenty two.
- 37:16And I think it's just
- 37:16because I was in the media
- 37:18pit on the floor for that event,
- 37:20which made it really exciting.
- 37:23Number three is the climbing
- 37:24snail from two thousand sixteen.
- 37:27It was the slowest,
- 37:28exciting finish of all time.
- 37:31And then number two is
- 37:33swimming stuff from the
- 37:34twenty twenty covid games.
- 37:37I love events and I love the
- 37:40one from like twenty
- 37:41thirteen twenty twelve to
- 37:44where they're in the pool.
- 37:45They're out of the pool.
- 37:45They have to do something.
- 37:46They're in the pool.
- 37:47I like that in and out of the pool thing.
- 37:52And then my number one of
- 37:53all time is strong man's
- 37:54fear from twenty seventeen.
- 37:57And I have,
- 37:58that's close to my heart
- 37:59because I actually was a
- 38:00volunteer during that games
- 38:02and I was resetting the
- 38:03yokes for that event.
- 38:05And I was right there watching it all.
- 38:07And it was a great event.
- 38:08You had to make choices as
- 38:10to what you were going to
- 38:11lift first and how much
- 38:13time you need to rest for
- 38:14the handstand walks.
- 38:16And people made bad
- 38:17decisions all over the place.
- 38:20And it was a choose your own
- 38:21adventure kind of thing.
- 38:23And I really enjoyed that.
- 38:25So those were my five.
- 38:29You want me to go?
- 38:33Yes.
- 38:33I have the final one, two,
- 38:35and three from twenty ten.
- 38:39Is that the girls?
- 38:42No.
- 38:44That's like the push-ups,
- 38:45get over the wall,
- 38:47and then into the
- 38:48toe-to-bar overhead squat or something,
- 38:50and then the rope climb
- 38:51that Rich struggled on.
- 38:54I liked the like one minute
- 38:56reset and like go to the
- 38:57next one and keep going.
- 38:58I liked that.
- 39:00It's crazy to go back and
- 39:01watch those workouts
- 39:02because people like can't
- 39:03even do total bar.
- 39:04It's insane.
- 39:06Um,
- 39:07so that one I have swim and ski similar.
- 39:11I do like when they get out of the water.
- 39:12I liked that one because I
- 39:14liked that everyone at the
- 39:15games did that.
- 39:16And we could even see like
- 39:17the adaptive scores
- 39:19compared to the elite
- 39:21scores and all the masters,
- 39:24like everyone did that workout.
- 39:26And it was just cool to see everyone,
- 39:29how far they could get.
- 39:30Um, I also have strong man's fear.
- 39:33Um, and then I have Mary, um,
- 39:36And then I have the Capitol.
- 39:41So we have a couple in the
- 39:42chat before Carolyn goes, um, Kenneth,
- 39:46the lap is I like strong
- 39:47man's fear and at Atlanta, uh,
- 39:51cross fat killer cage, push, pull, push,
- 39:54pull Murph, double grace, triple three,
- 39:57naughty Nancy.
- 39:59Um, understand the Capitol and chaos, uh,
- 40:03Oh, Chaos was incredible.
- 40:05Good pick.
- 40:07Clock, the first Murph was lit.
- 40:13Rich off the rope.
- 40:16Yeah.
- 40:17And then Andrew Sten to finish.
- 40:19Three Murph when Bridges wins.
- 40:21Killer Cage and Strongman's Fear.
- 40:23All right,
- 40:24and I'll take a break and let Carolyn go,
- 40:25and then we'll finish them
- 40:26up with whatever everybody else is.
- 40:28I didn't put them in order
- 40:29or anything like that,
- 40:30but I liked Rescue Randy.
- 40:32When they had an obstacle
- 40:34course and then came back,
- 40:35I think Cole Sager on that one.
- 40:38I like the athleticism of that one.
- 40:42And Cole Sager making Randy his bitch.
- 40:45Oh my gosh, that was incredible.
- 40:47When he just took it to the
- 40:49finish line and just grabbed it,
- 40:51it was...
- 40:52It was awesome.
- 40:53Um, capital was amazing.
- 40:55It was amazing to do as an athlete for me.
- 40:58It was special because I got
- 40:59to run through the city
- 41:00that I went to school.
- 41:01So it was very, very special.
- 41:03I liked the climbing snail, uh,
- 41:06strongman sphere, killer cage,
- 41:08and first cut.
- 41:10That was a great workout.
- 41:11First cut was in my head.
- 41:14The first Murph was in my head too.
- 41:17It just was so destructive.
- 41:19Um,
- 41:22And then there was another
- 41:23one that was mentioned that
- 41:24was in my head.
- 41:25Atalanta was in my head.
- 41:26The problem for me is like
- 41:29there was a couple workouts
- 41:30from twenty twenty that I really like.
- 41:32I just don't like that there
- 41:32was only five people that did them.
- 41:34And so it doesn't stick out
- 41:35to me because the race wasn't good.
- 41:37Yes,
- 41:38it would have been a different memory.
- 41:39I think if the race was competitive,
- 41:42a whole field doing the test for sure.
- 41:46I've always been a fan of
- 41:47the sprinting events,
- 41:49like the zigzag stuff over
- 41:51the hurdles or obstacle course.
- 41:53Like I, I love that kind of stuff.
- 41:55Uh, Larry young Murph back nine.
- 41:57Uh,
- 41:58but the old school beach workout was
- 42:00Spieler.
- 42:01I remember looking at the
- 42:02athletes and was like,
- 42:04are they effing jacked?
- 42:06Um, uh, CrossFit.
- 42:10Remember when everyone flew to the ranch?
- 42:12Now we're in Albany.
- 42:14Yeah, I actually, I,
- 42:16that was a great memory for me.
- 42:17And the behind the scenes
- 42:18part of that at the airport
- 42:20and stuff was awesome.
- 42:22When they flew to the ranch.
- 42:24I think that,
- 42:25I think the memories of that
- 42:26are greater than the actual
- 42:27events at the ranch.
- 42:32Cinco one and two are on my list.
- 42:36Uh, Savan saying final event,
- 42:38NorCal men and women were
- 42:39more exciting than any of those.
- 42:41Well,
- 42:42I would say the races were definitely
- 42:43more exciting at the end of NorCal,
- 42:48but I think there could
- 42:50have been a tweak to those, that event.
- 42:52It's crazy because a lot of
- 42:53the workouts that we've mentioned here,
- 42:55all workouts that took place, you know,
- 42:56on the soccer stadium or North Park,
- 43:00you know, on the turf, stuff like that,
- 43:02that I don't know that
- 43:04they'll be able to
- 43:04replicate that same atmosphere, obviously,
- 43:07indoor.
- 43:08We've seen, you know,
- 43:08turf pop up indoor in
- 43:10competitions now with the
- 43:11Rogue Invitational being
- 43:12able to add that last year.
- 43:15But just those, you know,
- 43:16that soccer field stadium or
- 43:19Huge turf made it, I think,
- 43:20even more of like a spectacle to watch,
- 43:24like the progression down
- 43:27the floor and stuff like that.
- 43:29I think the outdoor events
- 43:31were really cool to watch.
- 43:33Like those tripper style
- 43:34outdoors are very memorable, I think,
- 43:36over the years.
- 43:38I understand.
- 43:38Obstacle course was great.
- 43:40They need to do something like that again.
- 43:42Was that when Pat and Matt both fell?
- 43:45They did on the Rescue Randy
- 43:47version of the obstacle course.
- 43:51um uh larry young it was
- 43:55swim run pull-ups push-up
- 43:57old one uh I like hat trick
- 44:03I don't even know if I know
- 44:04that one by name
- 44:05That was like a sprint and
- 44:06then like a wall ball and
- 44:08then a dumbbell squat snatch.
- 44:10You know, a lot of those workouts from Boz,
- 44:12you know, are very, very memorable,
- 44:14like elevated Elizabeth, the Capitol,
- 44:17Patrick's right there.
- 44:17Like there's some unique elements, the,
- 44:20you know,
- 44:20the strict pegboard that we saw
- 44:22with the skipping,
- 44:22like obviously not the
- 44:23whole field took part in that,
- 44:24but there was a lot of cool
- 44:27new elements added in that
- 44:28year of twenty twenty two.
- 44:32That was exciting.
- 44:33Agreed.
- 44:33I even had Jackie Pro in my
- 44:37list when I was going
- 44:38through them because I
- 44:39liked the twist of forcing
- 44:41that pace on the row.
- 44:43Like it changed that workout a little bit.
- 44:45Swim and ski is that year too, right?
- 44:47In twenty twenty two.
- 44:48I think so.
- 44:49Yeah.
- 44:49So like there's I thought
- 44:51that they did a really good
- 44:51job that year.
- 44:52Yeah.
- 44:54the programming because a
- 44:55lot of people always talk
- 44:55about the you know the or
- 44:58even all the way until as
- 45:00the prime years of like the
- 45:02programming but there's a
- 45:03couple other years too that
- 45:05had some some great events
- 45:08um doug reed says froning
- 45:10destroying the field in his
- 45:11last event as an individual
- 45:12I think it was double grace
- 45:16I yeah if it was sunday rich was on fire
- 45:25Um,
- 45:26the ranch run into the dumbbell or the
- 45:28dumbbell, the deadlift ladder was cool.
- 45:31I did like it.
- 45:32Like I liked those events.
- 45:33I just don't think they
- 45:34elevated to like top five.
- 45:36I think the actual taking
- 45:38them to the ranch would
- 45:39have been a top five moment of the games.
- 45:46Um, Kenneth is like, yeah,
- 45:48all outdoor events.
- 45:53Uh,
- 45:55How was watching the mile in
- 45:56person last year?
- 45:58It was amazing.
- 46:00It was probably the most
- 46:01people in the stands for an
- 46:02event ever at a CrossFit
- 46:05event because it was a free
- 46:07event at the football stadium.
- 46:10And it was under the lights
- 46:12and it was done really well.
- 46:19Daniel Church, the buzz year was great,
- 46:21in my opinion.
- 46:23Fibonacci final, just fun to say.
- 46:26The alpaca.
- 46:28We never got a true version
- 46:29of alpaca for me to be able to judge it.
- 46:32I think it was a cool
- 46:33concept that the rain
- 46:35washed out in the first
- 46:36year they tried to do it.
- 46:38And I think it totally
- 46:39flipped the games on who did well.
- 46:43So...
- 46:49The Pendleton Run, you got any candy?
- 46:57Beach events were amazing
- 46:58and outdoor stuff, triple threes,
- 46:59Bird and Run.
- 47:01Bird and Run was one of my
- 47:02first memories of watching
- 47:04the CrossFit Games.
- 47:10Yeah, I'll take anything with the run.
- 47:11Those are all usually my
- 47:13favorite workouts.
- 47:15I'll take the sprinting ones with the run.
- 47:16Yeah.
- 47:21They don't test those enough.
- 47:22They're over too quick.
- 47:24I just need more drawn out drama.
- 47:26But like the people will
- 47:28complain because like, you know,
- 47:29people went by like
- 47:30hundreds of a second or tens,
- 47:32but that's what sprinting is.
- 47:33And there's a big difference
- 47:34if you're a second behind someone,
- 47:35like that means you're like
- 47:37significantly slower.
- 47:38Yeah.
- 47:38And when I look at sports,
- 47:41any fitness tests in a lot of the sports,
- 47:43the first thing they do is
- 47:44test speed and sprinting.
- 47:46And we rarely do that in our sport.
- 47:50um so like that's what I
- 47:52grew up doing I'm probably
- 47:53biased towards that um all
- 47:56I see is a long distance or
- 47:58moderate distance I keep
- 47:59showing up and I'm like
- 48:00that's fine but let's see a
- 48:02sprint yeah uh sherry saw
- 48:08we got it next year though
- 48:09right alpaca but it was
- 48:10rewritten it was close but
- 48:14it was rewritten the
- 48:15following year what they do
- 48:18change the rope climb
- 48:22I think they changed the
- 48:23reps or I can't remember
- 48:24the exact details.
- 48:26It's been a minute.
- 48:26I think some of the reps changed.
- 48:28I was on the demo team that year.
- 48:32Some of the reps scheme, I think,
- 48:33changed towards what it was originally.
- 48:36But even then, I think on the female side,
- 48:38it was over-programmed for the females.
- 48:43I don't think the field is at...
- 48:47that capacity at that point
- 48:48for that many seated
- 48:50legless um I think it was
- 48:53just a little bit over
- 48:54programmed on the female
- 48:55side agree um I knew this
- 49:03was going to come up caleb
- 49:04you all going to talk about
- 49:05dbe or what I kind of chose
- 49:07not to talk about dbe I
- 49:09think that you guys
- 49:11Did enough and talked about
- 49:13it enough that it's been covered.
- 49:17And it doesn't really have
- 49:18an effect on what's going
- 49:19on on the field.
- 49:21So I'm choosing to move on from it.
- 49:25I feel like I missed so much
- 49:27the last two weeks.
- 49:32I just haven't been able to
- 49:32watch anything.
- 49:35I don't even know what's going on.
- 49:37Well,
- 49:37I'm not going to be able to bring
- 49:38anything newer to the table
- 49:39than what they've already talked about.
- 49:42They've dug in deep.
- 49:44Jenny has done a lot of digging.
- 49:47They have way more evidence
- 49:48as to what's going on.
- 49:51I only know what I've watched from them.
- 49:52Yeah.
- 50:00I don't even know what to say about it.
- 50:01I don't really look into that.
- 50:06Does it just have to do with her and Matt?
- 50:07I don't know what I'm missing.
- 50:12Now you're forcing me to go into it.
- 50:13Well, I don't know.
- 50:15I was trying to watch today
- 50:16after the drive home.
- 50:17There was a TikTok.
- 50:18Okay.
- 50:19There was a TikTok.
- 50:22This all happened live while
- 50:23Siobhan was live yesterday.
- 50:24Okay.
- 50:25There was a TikTok on Matt
- 50:29Torres' TikTok account
- 50:31where he pulls up to DB's
- 50:33house and there's a car in
- 50:35the driveway that is not her boyfriend's.
- 50:39And the person inside is not
- 50:41her boyfriend.
- 50:43All making us believe that
- 50:45her boyfriend is Matt Torres.
- 50:47That they have gotten back together.
- 50:49And he went there to... And
- 50:51then the rest of it is speculation.
- 50:53That he may have went there
- 50:54to surprise her or not.
- 50:56I don't know.
- 50:57But...
- 50:58It was on TikTok for a minute.
- 51:00Matt pulled it down.
- 51:01He actually pulled his whole TikTok down.
- 51:03It's no longer up there.
- 51:07And so, yeah,
- 51:09Jenny has dug in deeper than that.
- 51:13Danielle's mother was on
- 51:14their show giving her input
- 51:15to this and then later made
- 51:18an Instagram post that she
- 51:19shouldn't have jumped into that,
- 51:22that she's a mother and she
- 51:23wants to protect her children,
- 51:24but that's not her place.
- 51:26And so it, I don't,
- 51:28I don't know what's going
- 51:29to come of all of this, but, um,
- 51:35and Matt made a statement
- 51:36in the tech talk that his
- 51:38heart is full of hate and, and he's hurt.
- 51:44And, uh, someone says here, I,
- 51:47for some reason, it's not pulling up.
- 51:50Um,
- 51:53I don't know.
- 51:54He says that Matt's heart is broken,
- 51:57that it's not speculation.
- 52:02The part that they talked
- 52:03about that I actually think is valid is,
- 52:07and it was brought up by Matt Souza,
- 52:08is every year right before the games,
- 52:12it seems like Daniel does
- 52:14something to self...
- 52:18Self implode.
- 52:21Right.
- 52:22When the thing went down with underdogs,
- 52:24it happened right before the games.
- 52:25Yeah.
- 52:26Like it always seems to
- 52:27happen right before,
- 52:29right before the games.
- 52:33Self-sabotage.
- 52:34That's what I was trying to look for.
- 52:36I think that's the part that
- 52:37is important to what
- 52:39happens on the field.
- 52:42The rest, I don't know anything about.
- 52:51so to me posting like the
- 52:53her house and stuff like
- 52:54that online is I don't know
- 52:57I I think that's not
- 52:59appropriate and there's
- 53:01like especially with the
- 53:01platform that that um they
- 53:05both have um there's some I
- 53:09won't go into it no comment
- 53:11for me and have they
- 53:14haven't even been together for like
- 53:18almost a year right I don't
- 53:20like I don't know any of
- 53:21that that's why I didn't
- 53:22really want to dive into it
- 53:23because everything at this
- 53:24point is there were rumors
- 53:26that they're back together
- 53:27they were back together the
- 53:28rumors are not back
- 53:29together um depending on
- 53:31who you listen to I it's
- 53:33just it's again at this
- 53:34time it's it's all tmz um
- 53:38other than what they've
- 53:39come up with and um through
- 53:43digging and torres even
- 53:46names the person that's in the house
- 53:48Oh boy.
- 53:50But is it anyone we know?
- 53:54He's a,
- 53:54he's like a semifinal level
- 53:56CrossFit athlete.
- 54:03So yeah, it just seems very childish.
- 54:07TikTok stuff.
- 54:08But when you're grown, I don't know.
- 54:13Deal with your shit another way.
- 54:17Um, this isn't TMZ.
- 54:18This is professional sports finally.
- 54:21Yeah.
- 54:21This is stuff that goes
- 54:22around in professional sports too.
- 54:24I just don't know enough
- 54:24about it to like make any,
- 54:27I can't make any educated
- 54:28comments on this that
- 54:30haven't already been stated.
- 54:31Um,
- 54:33I can't add anything to this
- 54:34conversation because I
- 54:36don't know anything.
- 54:38And the guy's name is Gooch.
- 54:39His last name is Gooch,
- 54:41which just makes it,
- 54:46but I don't think, I mean,
- 54:48a grown man going on Tik
- 54:49TOK filming their girlfriend,
- 54:51it just doesn't seem like
- 54:53an emotionally stable thing to do.
- 54:57Um, so I don't know.
- 55:01It's not.
- 55:07Yeah.
- 55:07Interesting.
- 55:08I don't even know.
- 55:09This is.
- 55:11And then,
- 55:12and then you have the fact that
- 55:13she's a brute athlete.
- 55:15Um,
- 55:18She's a brood athlete.
- 55:20Brood is owned by Matt Torres.
- 55:22What does that mean going into the games?
- 55:26I don't know.
- 55:26I got to think if you're
- 55:28like Galen or Fi or any of them,
- 55:30you're like, bro, focus.
- 55:36I've been texting with Fi
- 55:37all weekend trying to find
- 55:39a time to get her on,
- 55:39but everybody else has her on too.
- 55:42I was trying to get her on
- 55:43before any of this broke.
- 55:44I was just trying to get her on as Fi.
- 55:48And I don't want to talk about this with,
- 55:50with fee either.
- 55:53But she,
- 55:54her and her husband both made
- 55:55statements about what a
- 55:56great guy Matt Torres is
- 55:58since this all happened.
- 56:02So they're sticking behind
- 56:03Matt in this case.
- 56:09This is just wild.
- 56:12So, all right, let's move on.
- 56:14Okay.
- 56:15Thanks for the recap.
- 56:16I'll go watch some of these shows.
- 56:20And even Jenny did a dense update today,
- 56:25just solely dedicated to this.
- 56:27Okay.
- 56:28All right.
- 56:28And that'll give you the
- 56:29recap of the whole thing in
- 56:30a ten-minute window.
- 56:31Perfect.
- 56:32Thanks, Jenny.
- 56:37Too many people just post
- 56:38their stuff on social media.
- 56:40Like, it's just for everyone to see.
- 56:43Like, people need to keep it more private.
- 56:45It's all for attention.
- 56:50Yeah, she's good at that, though.
- 56:52Like,
- 56:54she knows what self-sabotage or
- 56:56self-promote.
- 56:58She's good at it.
- 56:58All right.
- 57:03So now Doug wants me to talk about Annie.
- 57:05I don't,
- 57:05the only thing I even saw about Annie,
- 57:08and I'll be,
- 57:08I'm just being completely honest.
- 57:10I did not even get into this,
- 57:11that she couldn't find
- 57:12water during Murph in two
- 57:14thousand sixteen.
- 57:17And then I've seen pictures
- 57:18of like volunteers handing
- 57:20out bottles and bottles and
- 57:21bottles of water in the
- 57:22runway coming on and off the field.
- 57:27That is all I've seen with Annie.
- 57:31Um, so I,
- 57:32I don't really know anything about that.
- 57:40Um, yeah, I haven't, I haven't watched,
- 57:43I saw, I saw it appear in my like, um,
- 57:46suggested videos on YouTube,
- 57:48but I haven't dug into it.
- 57:49I think it looked like a,
- 57:51an hour interview or
- 57:52something like that with this lady.
- 57:54I'm not sure where the, and it's not,
- 57:56it's not a CrossFit podcast.
- 57:57It's outside of the CrossFit realm,
- 58:00I think.
- 58:01I, again, I didn't watch it.
- 58:03I just saw a clip and I know that Sue,
- 58:05and it was a clip from
- 58:06Sousa talking about it and
- 58:09how much he likes Annie,
- 58:10but that was just not true.
- 58:13And that's all I saw from everything.
- 58:14So,
- 58:18and the reason I haven't watched any of
- 58:20that podcast is because
- 58:21it's been an amazing week of content.
- 58:25Finally,
- 58:27We had the road to the games
- 58:30with Lightfoot, Clements, and Kringle,
- 58:32which I think has been
- 58:33their best road to the game
- 58:34so far this year.
- 58:36And I think they did it by
- 58:37accident because the format
- 58:39didn't really change,
- 58:40but their personalities were so good.
- 58:41Harry Lightfoot,
- 58:43I've got to get on the show
- 58:44because he is really funny.
- 58:47I liked him right away.
- 58:48Yeah.
- 58:50And Alan Clements swimming
- 58:52in the ocean and doing that
- 58:54stuff instead of being
- 58:55inside the gym made it a
- 58:57much better road to the games.
- 59:01And then the fee video,
- 59:03I've said it a million times.
- 59:05Hiller clipped what I said.
- 59:06I think it may be one of the
- 59:08best of all time.
- 59:09It was an A plus for sure.
- 59:11If you have not seen it, it is a must,
- 59:14must watch.
- 59:15I'll watch it tonight.
- 59:19And then people were encouraging.
- 59:21No,
- 59:21I haven't watched anything since
- 59:23Lucas's open house.
- 59:24I have been.
- 59:26Ten days of pulling my hair out,
- 59:28trying to get through life.
- 59:33The fee is chef's kiss.
- 59:34Good.
- 59:37Then people told me to check
- 59:38out the tier videos.
- 59:40So I checked out the Abby
- 59:41Domet one and the Roman Krennikoff one,
- 59:44and they're both really good,
- 59:46but they're done by a company.
- 59:48And so the product is what's
- 59:49most important.
- 59:50So it's a lot of training
- 59:51montage so that you can see
- 59:53the clothes and the shoes and the stuff,
- 59:55but it's, it's pretty good.
- 59:58It's for that being their focus.
- 1:00:01They did a,
- 1:00:02they did almost a better job
- 1:00:03than road to the games has been doing.
- 1:00:07Um,
- 1:00:08and then Castro on coffee pods and mods,
- 1:00:10I thought was as raw as Dave has gotten.
- 1:00:14And I thought that it was a
- 1:00:17very well done interview by Peter.
- 1:00:19Um, the most telling question was,
- 1:00:22have you ever just thought
- 1:00:23about with this year,
- 1:00:24just saying F it and walk away.
- 1:00:27And he paused for like two
- 1:00:28minutes and then said, let's move on.
- 1:00:31And I think that two minutes
- 1:00:33tells more than anything he
- 1:00:35could have answered.
- 1:00:41So.
- 1:00:44I think Peter's done a good
- 1:00:47job interviewing,
- 1:00:49interviewing some people.
- 1:00:51I love Peter's interviews.
- 1:00:52He's excellent.
- 1:00:55And I, and I think Carolyn M makes a great,
- 1:00:58they had great rapport.
- 1:01:01Now Dave did have to get
- 1:01:03like translation on some of
- 1:01:04the words that Peter was using.
- 1:01:06because he didn't understand
- 1:01:07the Irish dialect, but... So, yeah.
- 1:01:21Has Jack been on Boys
- 1:01:22Interrupted more than once?
- 1:01:24Yes.
- 1:01:25Oh, see,
- 1:01:26I haven't even... So I finally watched,
- 1:01:29like...
- 1:01:30Right after, shortly after the other one,
- 1:01:32I watched the one where
- 1:01:33they were talking about Garmin.
- 1:01:34It's kind of a continuation.
- 1:01:35Okay.
- 1:01:36So he was on and Jack is
- 1:01:38studying like the
- 1:01:40biomechanics of wearables, right?
- 1:01:42Yes.
- 1:01:44And he had like an old Garmin.
- 1:01:46He didn't even have,
- 1:01:47and like Emma is sponsored
- 1:01:48by Garmin and Dallin
- 1:01:50sponsored by Garmin and blah, blah.
- 1:01:51Right.
- 1:01:52So apparently after the show,
- 1:01:53Garmin sent him the latest,
- 1:01:55greatest Garmin.
- 1:01:57And so he's been wearing it
- 1:01:59and they had him come back
- 1:02:01on to show that he had the
- 1:02:02new latest and greatest
- 1:02:05Garmin and that he's trying
- 1:02:07out all the different
- 1:02:08functionality and it can't wait to do.
- 1:02:12But he is smarter than the
- 1:02:15other three by far and funnier than, well,
- 1:02:19Jason Hopper has hit a new
- 1:02:20level and that's going to
- 1:02:22be in a question we have later.
- 1:02:24But yeah.
- 1:02:28And we're there.
- 1:02:28We're at Factor Fiction.
- 1:02:30It's actually a perfect segue.
- 1:02:32Okay.
- 1:02:33So my first question on Factor Fiction is,
- 1:02:37Factor Fiction, Jason Hopper,
- 1:02:39Colton Mertens,
- 1:02:40and Dallin Pepper are the
- 1:02:42best male athlete content
- 1:02:43creators of all time.
- 1:02:47So I mean,
- 1:02:50I feel like I have to say
- 1:02:52fiction just in that I feel
- 1:02:54like Rich is like the
- 1:02:57ultimate content creator,
- 1:02:58but Rich almost isn't a
- 1:03:00self content creator.
- 1:03:01Like he's amassed a media team around him.
- 1:03:04So I guess the nuance would
- 1:03:06be what Rich puts out.
- 1:03:09Does that count or does it
- 1:03:10have to be someone like
- 1:03:11doing their own TikToks?
- 1:03:12Because then, yes,
- 1:03:13those boys are crushing it.
- 1:03:14You get the question,
- 1:03:15you interpret it however it is,
- 1:03:17and then you tell me fact or fiction why.
- 1:03:19I guess fiction's my answer
- 1:03:21because I'm going to say rich.
- 1:03:25Yeah,
- 1:03:25I thought this... At first I didn't
- 1:03:26see that it had male because I was like,
- 1:03:29oh, there's been better...
- 1:03:33female that do like reels
- 1:03:35and stuff like that uh but
- 1:03:37I agree with jamie with um
- 1:03:40rich I mean the stuff that
- 1:03:41he's put out in terms of
- 1:03:42content over the years has
- 1:03:44been amazing um justin has
- 1:03:48some good stuff too you
- 1:03:50didn't add him but he has
- 1:03:51some good content as well
- 1:03:53um here's my thing with
- 1:03:55rich yeah I mean I think I
- 1:03:56think rich over the years
- 1:03:58has had more that's what I
- 1:04:00thought ken was rebecca
- 1:04:02but I said male because they're,
- 1:04:05they're a handful of Ariel.
- 1:04:07Yes.
- 1:04:07Yes.
- 1:04:09Right.
- 1:04:12Here, here's my thing.
- 1:04:14What Colton and Jason are
- 1:04:16doing lately with their
- 1:04:18humor and kind of looking
- 1:04:20at trends and being funny
- 1:04:22and being kind of bigger
- 1:04:24than just CrossFit,
- 1:04:26I think is a whole different level of,
- 1:04:28Rich just went down the,
- 1:04:30either paved the road or
- 1:04:31went down the road of just
- 1:04:32the down the fairway kind of content.
- 1:04:35Here's what I'm doing.
- 1:04:36Here's my, me working out.
- 1:04:38Okay.
- 1:04:38I'm creating a podcast and
- 1:04:40he's the only one that just didn't quit.
- 1:04:42He's just taking long breaks.
- 1:04:46Yeah.
- 1:04:47But like what Colton and
- 1:04:48Jason and Dallin are doing now,
- 1:04:49like Dallin doing the daily
- 1:04:51countdown to the games is
- 1:04:52almost like a must watch reel every day.
- 1:04:55And his wife's is even better.
- 1:04:59Yep, I've been following her.
- 1:05:00I like her.
- 1:05:01T-Bird's got a point.
- 1:05:03The open humiliation.
- 1:05:05Pat Donner.
- 1:05:06Pat and Brent was top tier.
- 1:05:09And there was another guy I'm missing.
- 1:05:13Another Canadian guy was in there too.
- 1:05:15And I think Jason Carroll
- 1:05:16was in there maybe at one point.
- 1:05:18Yeah.
- 1:05:20Open humiliation stuff.
- 1:05:21Yeah, that group was good.
- 1:05:24Well, just this week alone,
- 1:05:25you have Colton roasting the pork.
- 1:05:28Where he's talking to the
- 1:05:29pig and then there's
- 1:05:31roasted pork in the crock pot.
- 1:05:32Oh, no.
- 1:05:34And then you have Jason
- 1:05:36calling everybody and
- 1:05:37saying goodnight and just
- 1:05:40wanted to say goodnight and
- 1:05:41wanted to hear your voice.
- 1:05:43And the people he called,
- 1:05:45it was just like everyone
- 1:05:47was funnier than the last.
- 1:05:50When he called J.R.,
- 1:05:52Like I thought the Castro
- 1:05:53one was going to be like the,
- 1:05:55the funniest.
- 1:05:56And then he called Jr.
- 1:05:57And Jr.
- 1:05:57Just didn't want anything to do with him.
- 1:06:01And it was hilarious.
- 1:06:03That's good.
- 1:06:04That's a, that's a on trend.
- 1:06:06Tick tock right now.
- 1:06:06I mean, I've seen those.
- 1:06:07Yeah.
- 1:06:08Yeah.
- 1:06:10Like they're just hitting,
- 1:06:11they're hitting their stride for.
- 1:06:15And all of that is promoting the sport.
- 1:06:20which is,
- 1:06:21or whatever we want to call this thing.
- 1:06:25It's just doing as much as
- 1:06:27anybody else has done.
- 1:06:30Yeah,
- 1:06:30I think that they're leaning into
- 1:06:31this new world of TikTok, the trends,
- 1:06:34the social media part,
- 1:06:35branding themselves.
- 1:06:38They're adding their humor to it.
- 1:06:40I think they've done a
- 1:06:41phenomenal job this year to
- 1:06:43promote themselves, their brand,
- 1:06:44and CrossFit.
- 1:06:47Jody Lynn, I love those antics.
- 1:06:50The good night one was hilarious.
- 1:06:54CrossFit, the old San Diego video,
- 1:06:56San Diego, San Diego with Brent.
- 1:06:57I'll be honest, I forgot about this.
- 1:07:01When Brent did the all-in videos,
- 1:07:04that was a trend that was
- 1:07:06not done before because
- 1:07:07they were just funny,
- 1:07:09stupid videos where him and
- 1:07:13Pat are frolicking in the
- 1:07:15in the lake to try to get
- 1:07:17pat to be a better swimmer
- 1:07:20like that was gold back
- 1:07:21then yeah the all-in series
- 1:07:25t-bird was was so good all
- 1:07:31right number two factor
- 1:07:33fiction a failed drug test
- 1:07:36should be able to come from
- 1:07:37a public admission
- 1:07:42So last year,
- 1:07:44because Andrew Hiller said he was on TRT,
- 1:07:48the CrossFit Games
- 1:07:49suspended him for four years.
- 1:07:54Most recently this week,
- 1:07:56Taylor Self in an ad
- 1:07:58appears to take BPC for his knee.
- 1:08:04You never see the injection.
- 1:08:05You never see it go in.
- 1:08:06But they play it up that
- 1:08:08that's what it is.
- 1:08:08And he received an email
- 1:08:10from the CrossFit Games
- 1:08:11giving him the opportunity to appeal.
- 1:08:13But because of that ad,
- 1:08:17they were giving him a
- 1:08:20four-year suspension.
- 1:08:23Did they do the same for Rich?
- 1:08:28I have not heard anything
- 1:08:29from the Mayhem Camp that
- 1:08:31Rich got the same email.
- 1:08:35Yeah,
- 1:08:36that's a tough one because on one hand,
- 1:08:39I appreciate someone being
- 1:08:40honest and forthcoming with that stuff,
- 1:08:42but why aren't they just
- 1:08:44sending a drug test then
- 1:08:45right when they hear that
- 1:08:47and showing that it... I mean,
- 1:08:50I think the problem is
- 1:08:50going to be some of that
- 1:08:51stuff isn't going to pop
- 1:08:52and that's going to cause
- 1:08:54a... Why is it banned if
- 1:08:56it's not going to pop?
- 1:09:01But I almost don't think you
- 1:09:02can just go with...
- 1:09:06I don't know.
- 1:09:07That's a, that's a tough one.
- 1:09:09I think I got to say.
- 1:09:10It's not just the admission, the admitting,
- 1:09:12it's also the video that goes with it.
- 1:09:14That also is showing.
- 1:09:18So I think that there's some, um,
- 1:09:22what is this?
- 1:09:22Like you can go ahead and
- 1:09:26suspend the person when you
- 1:09:28see the actual injection
- 1:09:29into the body versus just word.
- 1:09:32Um,
- 1:09:33I don't think either of them you've
- 1:09:34seen an injection.
- 1:09:38commercial that that taylor
- 1:09:39does you you don't see the
- 1:09:40injection go in the knee
- 1:09:43you see syringes and
- 1:09:44needles but it never
- 1:09:45actually enters his body
- 1:09:48right for hillary hillary
- 1:09:49you got to see the
- 1:09:50injections so that's one I
- 1:09:53mean he was like ish there
- 1:09:54was a grayed out box but you can assume
- 1:09:59I don't know I mean
- 1:10:02regardless pretty split in
- 1:10:03the chat I want the sport
- 1:10:05regardless I want the sport
- 1:10:06to be clean and whether
- 1:10:08it's detectable or not um
- 1:10:10if you're taking things
- 1:10:11that are giving you an
- 1:10:12advantage that is on a van
- 1:10:14um list you should compete
- 1:10:19whether whether you get a
- 1:10:20suspension or you yourself
- 1:10:22decide not to compete like
- 1:10:24I think you send them the suspension.
- 1:10:25They have the ability to appeal.
- 1:10:27If they appeal,
- 1:10:28then you have to drug test.
- 1:10:29Yeah, you could do that.
- 1:10:34If you admit, yeah, I was doing it,
- 1:10:36I deserve the suspension, then no harm,
- 1:10:39no foul.
- 1:10:47You have to make sure the
- 1:10:48effect of the drugs is no
- 1:10:49longer in the system.
- 1:10:52did lance ever test positive
- 1:10:55in any of his tests for him
- 1:10:56to be stripped of titles no
- 1:11:01it was only he admitted so
- 1:11:04that's that's my answer so
- 1:11:11they stripped him right of
- 1:11:13yeah of the titles
- 1:11:15Well,
- 1:11:15I think they did do an investigation.
- 1:11:17There was an investigation
- 1:11:18that he did do it.
- 1:11:20He never tested positive.
- 1:11:21And that's what the chat's
- 1:11:23saying is you need a positive test.
- 1:11:24And Lance didn't have a positive test.
- 1:11:26And we know that he took stuff.
- 1:11:27Yeah.
- 1:11:38Okay.
- 1:11:38So the next one.
- 1:11:41Factor fiction.
- 1:11:43Dave Castro saying that the
- 1:11:44games are going back to
- 1:11:45basic CrossFit programming
- 1:11:47is good for the CrossFit games.
- 1:11:58I think fiction,
- 1:11:59I think not for the whole games.
- 1:12:01I still think that you need
- 1:12:02elements that like, yes,
- 1:12:04it's safe to do that,
- 1:12:06but I think that you need
- 1:12:07to do things that will be
- 1:12:09also out of the box,
- 1:12:11like exciting and different
- 1:12:13and just brings a different
- 1:12:17type of workout to the game.
- 1:12:19I think if you just see like
- 1:12:20classic in the gym CrossFit,
- 1:12:23I don't think that's gonna
- 1:12:24do it for the community.
- 1:12:27Yeah,
- 1:12:28I don't even know what he's getting
- 1:12:30at there.
- 1:12:32We just went... You just
- 1:12:34asked us some of the best
- 1:12:36programming and it's like
- 1:12:38not... All outdoor.
- 1:12:39Yeah, like... Well,
- 1:12:40I did that for a reason, Jake.
- 1:12:43So fiction.
- 1:12:44Because clearly we don't want just...
- 1:12:49Nine, but we do,
- 1:12:50we do want some sort of classic CrossFit.
- 1:12:53And I think those are very
- 1:12:54important tests to be in
- 1:12:56there and should be in there,
- 1:12:57but do we need, let's say there's,
- 1:13:00you know, eight to twelve events.
- 1:13:01Do we need, you know, two thirds,
- 1:13:05three quarters of them to
- 1:13:07be classic CrossFit?
- 1:13:07I don't know.
- 1:13:08I don't think so.
- 1:13:10I think you could have, yeah,
- 1:13:11you could have a third.
- 1:13:16Yeah.
- 1:13:19Yeah, like this run, row,
- 1:13:21run is not classic CrossFit, right?
- 1:13:24No.
- 1:13:24It's a needed test and it
- 1:13:26needs to be there.
- 1:13:27There should be a
- 1:13:28weightlifting piece with a long event.
- 1:13:33So now you're down to eight events.
- 1:13:37But like we just said,
- 1:13:39the fun events are like
- 1:13:40Strongman's Fear or
- 1:13:42swimming stuff or chaos events.
- 1:13:49none of that is actually
- 1:13:50like classic crossfit I
- 1:13:57would argue chaos kind of
- 1:13:59is what'd you say again
- 1:14:07jamie I would argue chaos
- 1:14:09is kind of classic crossfit I mean
- 1:14:13Never have I gone into a gym
- 1:14:15and the daily workout is, hey,
- 1:14:17start working out and I'll
- 1:14:18tell you what's next when you get there.
- 1:14:19Well, after you saw,
- 1:14:21after you did the workout.
- 1:14:22And we'll tell you when to stop.
- 1:14:24I don't know.
- 1:14:24I've done that.
- 1:14:25And I've done that a couple
- 1:14:27times over the years to my gym.
- 1:14:30I love it.
- 1:14:34Andrew Sten says,
- 1:14:35bring back hammering and rebar.
- 1:14:43Yeah, I know.
- 1:14:44I think I think there's a
- 1:14:46certain amount that should
- 1:14:47be classic CrossFit.
- 1:14:48And I think the games is
- 1:14:49when you can have a little
- 1:14:50bit of other stuff, too.
- 1:14:53It's like,
- 1:14:53do I like that tire one from last year?
- 1:14:56Absolutely not.
- 1:14:57I think that was a stupid
- 1:14:58workout with the hammer one
- 1:15:00that they were supposed to do.
- 1:15:02But if it's one event in, let's say,
- 1:15:05thirteen to fourteen, you're always like,
- 1:15:08OK,
- 1:15:11But sometimes you get a miss
- 1:15:14with some of your workouts too.
- 1:15:16I felt like that was a miss last year.
- 1:15:19Lance actually did test
- 1:15:20positive for something,
- 1:15:21but they said he was using
- 1:15:22cream for saddle sores.
- 1:15:24So they dismissed it as that.
- 1:15:30I think that goes to prove
- 1:15:32Carolyn's point even more.
- 1:15:38All right.
- 1:15:38All right.
- 1:15:41I announced on Friday before
- 1:15:43knowing that Carolyn was
- 1:15:44going to the games, hopefully.
- 1:15:48We get official word soon
- 1:15:50that I'm going to be
- 1:15:50covering Hattie at the
- 1:15:52CrossFit Games this year.
- 1:15:54Twenty four seven behind the scenes.
- 1:15:57I got a room in the same
- 1:15:58hotel that she did.
- 1:15:59We're going to do a whole
- 1:16:02leading up to the games
- 1:16:03through the games after the
- 1:16:04games kind of thing.
- 1:16:07And I've met with her and
- 1:16:08Tristan and we set the
- 1:16:10ground rules and it's going
- 1:16:12to be awesome because her
- 1:16:13ground rules weren't much.
- 1:16:15it was um if I'm mad just
- 1:16:19don't expect me to talk but
- 1:16:20you can film my emotions um
- 1:16:25things like that so she is
- 1:16:27all on board for everything
- 1:16:28the hinge in this whole
- 1:16:29thing is I've asked for
- 1:16:30enhanced media access for
- 1:16:32the first time ever
- 1:16:34And I've not heard back on that yet.
- 1:16:36So hopefully I get that
- 1:16:37where I can be in the warmup area,
- 1:16:40filming her throughout the day.
- 1:16:42But I'm really,
- 1:16:43I just want to do it as a
- 1:16:44proof of concept to see if I can do it.
- 1:16:46And I wanted someone that
- 1:16:47I've known for a while and
- 1:16:48trusted and they trust me.
- 1:16:50And so that's what we're
- 1:16:50doing and super excited to do that.
- 1:16:54And if Carolyn is there,
- 1:16:56it's only going to be
- 1:16:57better because I can shoot
- 1:16:58some stuff of her
- 1:16:59throughout the day as well.
- 1:17:01And we can share that on the show as well.
- 1:17:05So, um,
- 1:17:07I think that's going to be super
- 1:17:07fun and I hope you guys enjoy that.
- 1:17:10She's promised me lots of
- 1:17:12dance parties and, um,
- 1:17:14eating lots of pasta is how she puts it.
- 1:17:17I think that's pasta in
- 1:17:18English and non-Canadian, but, um,
- 1:17:23we're at like a residence in, so it's, um,
- 1:17:26there's several of them in Albany.
- 1:17:28So don't think you know what you're doing.
- 1:17:29Uh, but it has a kitchen and, uh,
- 1:17:33and she's taking all of her
- 1:17:34food with her.
- 1:17:34So, uh, we'll go back to the hotel.
- 1:17:37She'll eat.
- 1:17:37We'll be able to have conversations there.
- 1:17:40Um, which will be really cool.
- 1:17:43I need to go.
- 1:17:45You're going to be, you're going to be, uh,
- 1:17:51stretched thin.
- 1:17:51I feel like.
- 1:17:56Well,
- 1:17:57like I just look back at last year
- 1:17:59when I didn't have anything
- 1:18:00to really cover.
- 1:18:02Like we just were doing a
- 1:18:03show every night.
- 1:18:03Yeah.
- 1:18:04So I just was watching and
- 1:18:06it got to be like really
- 1:18:07boring through the day.
- 1:18:09And I thought,
- 1:18:10what can I do where I can
- 1:18:11focus on something to make it my,
- 1:18:15my job for the day and then
- 1:18:17still do the show in the evening.
- 1:18:21and I thought I thought this
- 1:18:22would be cool yeah it'd be
- 1:18:24awesome to have another
- 1:18:25person there to do some of
- 1:18:26the segments and take it
- 1:18:28but I'll do the best I can
- 1:18:31and then if we get the
- 1:18:32proof of concept then maybe
- 1:18:34in the future we can do
- 1:18:35some more stuff like it
- 1:18:38right as a group um
- 1:18:49People still talking about the drug stuff.
- 1:18:51Anytime you bring up drug
- 1:18:53suspensions and steroids,
- 1:18:55it goes off the rails.
- 1:18:56I don't know how Hiller does it.
- 1:19:00The last thing I had on our
- 1:19:01agenda is I've been on the Metfix thing.
- 1:19:05We talked about it briefly
- 1:19:06last week with Carolyn.
- 1:19:08I thought I thought one way,
- 1:19:09and then the more stuff is coming out,
- 1:19:12the more I have totally
- 1:19:14dove off of that thought process.
- 1:19:17And it's just making me mad now.
- 1:19:20And I didn't think that was
- 1:19:23going to happen.
- 1:19:25I've lost Instagram
- 1:19:26followers over my opinion on MedFix.
- 1:19:28People have told me that I
- 1:19:30need to get over it,
- 1:19:31that they're here to help.
- 1:19:33But last I checked,
- 1:19:35telling me science at a
- 1:19:36blackboard didn't help me lose weight.
- 1:19:39It was the affiliate who
- 1:19:40helped me lose weight.
- 1:19:42That's who it was.
- 1:19:45Um, and I don't care if I lose people as a,
- 1:19:50as a follower on Instagram.
- 1:19:52I think that as they have
- 1:19:54tried to straighten up what
- 1:19:56their thoughts are,
- 1:19:58they're being caught in lie
- 1:19:59after lie after lie.
- 1:20:00Yeah.
- 1:20:01And that is just.
- 1:20:06It's rough.
- 1:20:07And I've talked to Athena a
- 1:20:09lot this week and I've,
- 1:20:12I've heard just way too
- 1:20:13much about what they did to her.
- 1:20:16And I think that that is,
- 1:20:18and then how they attacked
- 1:20:19her publicly after the fact
- 1:20:21was uncalled for.
- 1:20:32I don't know enough about, I guess,
- 1:20:34all of that that's going on.
- 1:20:35I saw a little bit of,
- 1:20:37I don't know who posted
- 1:20:39something on someone's story,
- 1:20:41but like the idea of metrics,
- 1:20:44I talked about that last time.
- 1:20:45Like it's very similar to
- 1:20:47what CrossFit is.
- 1:20:47It is CrossFit,
- 1:20:48but just with a more
- 1:20:49emphasis on the nutrition
- 1:20:51bottom part of the pyramid.
- 1:20:53If it's a higher education
- 1:20:55course or something, I'm all for it.
- 1:20:57Just like a weekend course.
- 1:20:59I just don't know.
- 1:21:01that it's going to work.
- 1:21:02I think the, the name met fix,
- 1:21:05like people don't really
- 1:21:06know about it right now.
- 1:21:06So I just don't,
- 1:21:08I just don't know that it
- 1:21:09will grow to be as big as
- 1:21:10what CrossFit is.
- 1:21:11I feel like they should be
- 1:21:12working together,
- 1:21:14promoting the same message
- 1:21:15and helping people get
- 1:21:17healthier in life through
- 1:21:19fitness and nutrition with nutrition,
- 1:21:21obviously being first.
- 1:21:21And then fitness is
- 1:21:23obviously the part that you
- 1:21:25have more control in an affiliate.
- 1:21:27You can't be with the person
- 1:21:28for what they eat at home, but you can,
- 1:21:32Suggest things or talk about
- 1:21:33things maybe a little bit
- 1:21:34more in the affiliate to help people,
- 1:21:35but I just don't know how
- 1:21:38they're going to do it.
- 1:21:41So the, the part that,
- 1:21:43that got me Carolyn is if
- 1:21:44you didn't see this piece
- 1:21:45is that Athena wrote an
- 1:21:48article in the morning talk
- 1:21:49up on Monday or Tuesday,
- 1:21:52where she claims that she
- 1:21:55alleges that met fix and
- 1:21:56Emily Kaplan offered her
- 1:21:59hundreds of thousands of
- 1:22:00dollars to not say the word
- 1:22:02CrossFit anymore.
- 1:22:03When she talks about her
- 1:22:04weight loss and to talk
- 1:22:05about it as Greg's philosophy.
- 1:22:10athena went on to say you
- 1:22:12can't buy me that way and I
- 1:22:14refused it emily then came
- 1:22:16back and said that that's
- 1:22:18not how the conversation
- 1:22:19went athena came and asked
- 1:22:21for it jenny from dense
- 1:22:24updates then looked into
- 1:22:26and athena showed her her
- 1:22:27phone records and you can
- 1:22:29see that there were no
- 1:22:29outgoing calls to emily
- 1:22:32they were only incoming calls and
- 1:22:38And then now more people are
- 1:22:39coming forward saying that
- 1:22:41the same offer was made to
- 1:22:42them as like CrossFit medical L-I's.
- 1:22:48Like when Greg did that
- 1:22:50medical L-I for the doctors,
- 1:22:52they've been offered money
- 1:22:54to then stop saying CrossFit as well.
- 1:22:58And all that I think is
- 1:23:01smoke and mirrors and scammy,
- 1:23:04but it just reminded me that
- 1:23:07it doesn't matter.
- 1:23:08I mean, the methodology matters,
- 1:23:10but it's this group of
- 1:23:11affiliates that formed.
- 1:23:13And those people,
- 1:23:14when I walk in the door
- 1:23:15that were the people that
- 1:23:16helped me with my nutrition
- 1:23:18and help me with my fitness.
- 1:23:22And that's the part that I
- 1:23:23had to be reminded of.
- 1:23:25And I feel like that Emily
- 1:23:28and Metfix are attacking
- 1:23:30CrossFit and they are
- 1:23:32trying to take down that
- 1:23:33affiliate group and
- 1:23:37And in a hokey, scammy way.
- 1:23:40And so with that,
- 1:23:42as someone who went into my
- 1:23:43interview with Pete Shaw,
- 1:23:45as someone who wanted to
- 1:23:45learn what MedFix was and
- 1:23:47learn as much as I could
- 1:23:48about it and to make it
- 1:23:50help me understand my
- 1:23:51nutrition journey better,
- 1:23:54I came out very
- 1:23:54disappointed on the other end.
- 1:24:02Yeah.
- 1:24:02I don't even know how they can...
- 1:24:05this, I guess, CrossFit,
- 1:24:06it's the same message.
- 1:24:08It's the same message.
- 1:24:09To me,
- 1:24:10their whole business is built off of
- 1:24:14the CrossFit methodology
- 1:24:15and just I don't even know
- 1:24:19how you can even attack your base.
- 1:24:26That's where it's from.
- 1:24:27Right.
- 1:24:28They're trying to convert
- 1:24:29them from a CrossFit
- 1:24:30affiliate to a Metfix affiliate.
- 1:24:32That's what I don't understand.
- 1:24:34Like,
- 1:24:38I mean, just say that, I guess,
- 1:24:40if that's truly the goal here,
- 1:24:42like it doesn't, I don't,
- 1:24:43I don't understand what's going on.
- 1:24:45I don't understand why we
- 1:24:46need a Metfix affiliate.
- 1:24:47Like, what are they doing?
- 1:24:52Again,
- 1:24:53there's a lot of things that
- 1:24:54CrossFit HQ has done that I
- 1:24:55do not agree with,
- 1:24:57but it doesn't change what
- 1:24:59the local affiliates have done for me.
- 1:25:02They've not changed a bit.
- 1:25:04The two that I belong to have been awesome,
- 1:25:07awesome gyms who loved on
- 1:25:10me when I walked in the door as a scared,
- 1:25:12five-hundred-pound person looking,
- 1:25:15begging for help.
- 1:25:17They loved on me.
- 1:25:18They encouraged me.
- 1:25:19They pushed me.
- 1:25:22That's what was important.
- 1:25:27Like, I love...
- 1:25:29Like I love their concept of
- 1:25:33like when we think about
- 1:25:34our level one and level two
- 1:25:35and it's all based off of
- 1:25:37the training and then with
- 1:25:38the one lecture on
- 1:25:39nutrition and theirs is all
- 1:25:41of nutrition with maybe one
- 1:25:42little part on CrossFit, right?
- 1:25:45Like a workout of the day or whatever.
- 1:25:47Like I like that concept and
- 1:25:49I think that that's super important.
- 1:25:50I think that should be a
- 1:25:51course that people buy or
- 1:25:53can have access to and get
- 1:25:56a little bit more knowledge
- 1:25:57in the nutrition part of things.
- 1:26:00And it could be in addition
- 1:26:02to CrossFit and extra
- 1:26:04credit for if you have your
- 1:26:05level three or level four.
- 1:26:08But the whole affiliate
- 1:26:09thing is just confusing to me.
- 1:26:12They don't want it to be that way.
- 1:26:14And that's what I've learned
- 1:26:14in the last couple weeks.
- 1:26:16Right.
- 1:26:16And that's what's weird
- 1:26:18because I don't see them
- 1:26:19being – I guess I don't
- 1:26:21know what it would bring
- 1:26:22for the affiliate.
- 1:26:23I mean,
- 1:26:23maybe just more content to give to
- 1:26:24your members, I guess.
- 1:26:27Yeah.
- 1:26:29Yeah.
- 1:26:29But then you have to be,
- 1:26:30then you have to be like, yeah, we're,
- 1:26:32we're this, but we're this too.
- 1:26:34It's not even in conjunction.
- 1:26:35And that's going to be
- 1:26:36confusing to members.
- 1:26:39Like,
- 1:26:40why do you have to be two separate
- 1:26:41affiliates?
- 1:26:43That's weird.
- 1:26:46And then you throw WP
- 1:26:48affiliates in there too.
- 1:26:49Now you got three separate
- 1:26:50things and it's a hot mess.
- 1:26:51High rocks affiliates too.
- 1:26:52Like people have all of
- 1:26:54these affiliates now.
- 1:26:58Mayhem affiliates,
- 1:26:59because they're taking over
- 1:27:00the whole world.
- 1:27:04Just kidding.
- 1:27:05You know,
- 1:27:06I'll have to go watch more of
- 1:27:07Seth's stuff, because like Ken says,
- 1:27:09Seth is... I totally respect Seth.
- 1:27:13I like to listen to what he has to say.
- 1:27:16He's super smart.
- 1:27:17The fact that he has both of
- 1:27:19those right now, I'd be curious...
- 1:27:22I'd be curious his take on it.
- 1:27:23Like what is he?
- 1:27:25I don't know if he's seen
- 1:27:26what I've seen this,
- 1:27:26these last two weeks.
- 1:27:27Yeah.
- 1:27:28Right.
- 1:27:28That's the problem.
- 1:27:30Right.
- 1:27:30So I don't know.
- 1:27:33Like I shared the DMS I got from Emily.
- 1:27:35Yeah.
- 1:27:36Right after everything.
- 1:27:37And I got bombarded and the
- 1:27:39way she talked to me was
- 1:27:41not in a cordial manner.
- 1:27:44Right.
- 1:27:44Agree.
- 1:27:46That's how she,
- 1:27:47that's the first impression
- 1:27:49I got of Emily.
- 1:27:50Cause I've never met her in my life.
- 1:27:54It's just crazy to see all
- 1:27:55the fighting happening
- 1:27:56because we all have the same goal of,
- 1:27:59you know, getting people healthier,
- 1:28:02get them,
- 1:28:03getting people to understand the
- 1:28:04importance of nutrition and
- 1:28:05movement in their day.
- 1:28:08And it just,
- 1:28:10it makes no sense to be fighting over,
- 1:28:11over different things like work together,
- 1:28:14be in addition to the
- 1:28:15CrossFit space with a
- 1:28:16course that you want to
- 1:28:17offer where you go inside
- 1:28:19an affiliates and you maybe
- 1:28:21show the affiliates how
- 1:28:21they can incorporate more of, you know,
- 1:28:25journal stuff or nutrition things,
- 1:28:27but there's nothing new
- 1:28:28from what they're even
- 1:28:29teaching in terms of their nutrition.
- 1:28:32And that's the thing that
- 1:28:33it's all Greg's old stuff.
- 1:28:34And maybe a little bit on that,
- 1:28:37but not much different.
- 1:28:39The fighting is not good for
- 1:28:40the ecosystem as a whole.
- 1:28:42Agreed.
- 1:28:42It is not.
- 1:28:44And,
- 1:28:44but so here I look at the ecosystem
- 1:28:49and CrossFit,
- 1:28:50I've begged to do something different.
- 1:28:54Okay.
- 1:28:55I'm going to try to make this.
- 1:28:56So CrossFit,
- 1:28:58the season in the sport has
- 1:29:00been messed up for too many years.
- 1:29:02It changes every year.
- 1:29:04We can never get a beginning to an end.
- 1:29:07WFP comes out with a
- 1:29:08solution and I'm actually like, Hey,
- 1:29:10that does sound like a better thing,
- 1:29:13but let's see it play its course.
- 1:29:15I don't, I'm not taking sides in this.
- 1:29:17I just want to see,
- 1:29:18can they make that type of a season work?
- 1:29:22MedFix comes out.
- 1:29:23Hey, we're going to focus on nutrition.
- 1:29:25CrossFit focuses on moving.
- 1:29:27We're going to focus on nutrition.
- 1:29:29Makes sense.
- 1:29:30But then when I am forced to
- 1:29:33dive deeper into that,
- 1:29:35I find out that that's not
- 1:29:36really what they are.
- 1:29:39And then at that point,
- 1:29:40then it has to become a
- 1:29:41fight because they have ulterior motives.
- 1:29:48And it's making it very, very complicated.
- 1:29:50Yeah.
- 1:29:52And WFP may have ulterior motives too,
- 1:29:56but right now they're not
- 1:29:56truly affecting the season.
- 1:29:59And we can see them both play out.
- 1:30:02I mean,
- 1:30:03their one comp affected the French
- 1:30:06throwdown, right?
- 1:30:08Yeah.
- 1:30:09But their other comps and
- 1:30:10where they're placed was
- 1:30:12outside of the season, which works.
- 1:30:18But I would like to see that
- 1:30:19type of a season play out
- 1:30:21just to see if it's doable.
- 1:30:23Yeah, I do like the idea of it.
- 1:30:25And the first tour was awesome again,
- 1:30:28but like Dave said in the
- 1:30:29podcast with coffee pods and wands,
- 1:30:33is that the order of it?
- 1:30:34I always get that mixed up, but you know,
- 1:30:36they're on year one,
- 1:30:37they haven't even completed.
- 1:30:38They've done one tour, right?
- 1:30:40can they keep the ball going and, you know,
- 1:30:43turn this into something that, you know,
- 1:30:45will grow to be huge in the
- 1:30:47next few years and actually
- 1:30:48be sustainable from right now.
- 1:30:51It looks great, but we need to see,
- 1:30:54you know, more things be, be done.
- 1:30:58What I thought was telling
- 1:30:59is with where CrossFit is economically,
- 1:31:04Dave was open to a
- 1:31:05discussion as to maybe they take,
- 1:31:08the season up to the games
- 1:31:12like in that interview now
- 1:31:15they never got to talk they
- 1:31:16never got any negotiations
- 1:31:17started so we don't know if
- 1:31:19that was realistic or not
- 1:31:21but he was open to having a
- 1:31:23discussion because they
- 1:31:26because crossfit couldn't
- 1:31:27afford to put on the season
- 1:31:29that was evident when they
- 1:31:30sold it off to nine
- 1:31:32different event organizers
- 1:31:38so I don't know like it it
- 1:31:40could have worked in the
- 1:31:41same ecosystem but uh that
- 1:31:45this is for another show
- 1:31:45we're at the end we'll
- 1:31:48maybe we'll talk about it
- 1:31:49we're we have a couple
- 1:31:50weeks where it's going to
- 1:31:51be a little bit slow until
- 1:31:53we get to the games so
- 1:31:55maybe we'll have room to
- 1:31:56put something in like this
- 1:31:59and have a discussion again
- 1:32:01about all that
- 1:32:03None of this was in a rundown.
- 1:32:05This was just a riffing off
- 1:32:07the cuff at the end of the show.
- 1:32:08So hopefully you stayed
- 1:32:10along for all of that.
- 1:32:12So glad everybody could be here tonight.
- 1:32:14Hopefully we get good news
- 1:32:15on Carolyn within twenty four hours or so,
- 1:32:19maybe Monday and
- 1:32:20everybody's back in their office.
- 1:32:23She gets an email.
- 1:32:25And we don't know.
- 1:32:25We don't know if Alex has
- 1:32:26actually submitted anything to CrossFit.
- 1:32:29She may have just submitted its I.G.
- 1:32:30Right.
- 1:32:31and talked on Sivan and, um,
- 1:32:35and she maybe have not as
- 1:32:36not formally withdrawn yet.
- 1:32:40Yeah.
- 1:32:40Like I won't book anything
- 1:32:41until I actually get the word,
- 1:32:45like the official word.
- 1:32:46Yeah.
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- 1:33:11I usually find something by then,
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