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Magick Crossing The Abyss | NIck From The Occult Rejects · Ryder Lee

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  Speaker 1: Hallucinogenic drugs, hypnosis, electric shocks to the brain, some of
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  Speaker 1: the methods used in secret CIA mind control experiments.
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  Speaker 2: There are many theories as to what the shining is
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  Speaker 2: really about, from the faking of the moon landing to
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  Speaker 2: Native American genocide and holocaust.
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  Speaker 3: Now, if he did fake the Apollo moon landing, then
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  Speaker 3: he probably has really deep connections into the intelligence world.
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  Speaker 3: Why are there these gigantic continuity airs in this movie?
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  Speaker 4: The occulted meeting has to be comprehensible. It's just hidden,
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  Speaker 4: usually in a very systematic way, so that it could
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  Speaker 4: be understood by someone coming along later on, who knows
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  Speaker 4: what the real meaning is supposed to be.
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  Speaker 2: We believe that there's something even more sinister lurking beneath
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  Speaker 2: the surface of this master ho film.
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  Speaker 3: So Lookout Mountain Hotel looked a lot like the Overlook Hotel.
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  Speaker 5: You realize as an such thing as coincidences like.
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  Speaker 2: That as Lookout Mountain studios ran by the Air Force
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  Speaker 2: and told the story of nuclear weapons testing by the
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  Speaker 2: United States of the.
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  Speaker 6: Army Navan Air Force. The Air Force was.
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  Speaker 1: Known to be the most excited, the most turned on
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  Speaker 1: by mk Ultran.
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  Speaker 5: Its prospects reportedly there were more films might Lookout Mounting
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  Speaker 5: than at all the other film studios in Hollywood.
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  Speaker 3: We really don't know that these famous film directors were
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  Speaker 3: being record form what project or whatever was it?
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  Speaker 2: The Moon Landing. The CIA's MK Ultra programs were admitted
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  Speaker 2: to the public in nineteen seventy, five, years before the
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  Speaker 2: release of The Shining.
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  Speaker 7: These experiments were done without the informed consent of the patients.
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  Speaker 1: Look at some UFO cases and the things that are
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  Speaker 1: reporting tells me that.
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  Speaker 2: MK ultra is likely being applied.
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  Speaker 7: My MK ultra mind control experience, I was taken to
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  Speaker 7: various military, NASA, and DARPA installations for sophisticated mind control programming.
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  Speaker 5: Woke Disney, Marilyn Monroe, James Stewart, Carrie Groan, Ronald Reagan.
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  Speaker 5: Nobody really knows what they were doing up.
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  Speaker 8: There, as well as high ranking military and Department of
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  Speaker 8: Defense personnel.
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  Speaker 3: What people don't realize is that many of the people
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  Speaker 3: that worked with Kubrick also worked with Kennedy. This is
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  Speaker 3: actually the smoking gun proving that Kubrick was working.
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  Speaker 6: With the government.
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  Speaker 5: These were all CIA sponsored experiments.
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  Speaker 6: I said, I'm not gonna hurt you.
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  Speaker 8: I'm just gonna bash.
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  Speaker 5: Your brains and putting little symbolic cryptic clues and Easter
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  Speaker 5: eggs pertaining to the fact that they're still doing it.
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  Speaker 2: These clues include a hidden swastika in the background of
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  Speaker 2: his old room.
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  Speaker 7: What was the set up? What it was being told?
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  Speaker 7: And realized that it was a lie all along?
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  Speaker 5: But right there in the narrative in the dialogue, they're
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  Speaker 5: telling you that this was a very real program coming
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  Speaker 5: out of those nice folks in the CIO.
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  Speaker 2: Here's Johnny. We did it, guys, we did it. A
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  Speaker 2: Clockwork Shining dropped on Amazon Prime Video today and I
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  Speaker 2: couldn't be more excited about it. I literally had a
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  Speaker 2: dream this morning that it was out, and as soon
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  Speaker 2: as I woke up, no joke, I checked my phone
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  Speaker 2: and boom, there it was. And I immediately called Jay
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  Speaker 2: Wiiner to tell him. And I'm actually going to be
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  Speaker 2: on his show later tonight on Reality Check at ten pm.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, i'd be eight pm. Sorry, eight pm est.
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  Speaker 2: So go over there and check that out after this
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  Speaker 2: show is over. But our documentary at Clockwork Shining the
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  Speaker 2: Weight is over. It is out now on Amazon Prime Video.
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  Speaker 2: The link is in the description, and it is pinned
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  Speaker 2: to the top of the chat. Buy it, rent it
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  Speaker 2: from Amazon Prime Video, and leave a review and a
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  Speaker 2: rating please. That always helps with anything on Amazon. Also
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  Speaker 2: tell your friends family, share it on social media Instagram,
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  Speaker 2: x Facebook, share it in Facebook groups. Let's get this
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  Speaker 2: thing out there everywhere. It's a really big deal, guys.
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  Speaker 2: And this was like my passion project. And it was
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  Speaker 2: said that it wasn't going to be out for three
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  Speaker 2: to four months, and it came out in a little
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  Speaker 2: over three weeks. So I really owe it to you
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  Speaker 2: guys for constantly searching it on Amazon. That definitely helped
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  Speaker 2: push it out faster. Hope you guys really enjoy it.
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  Speaker 2: The link to rent or purchase the movie is in
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  Speaker 2: the description of this video and it's pinned to the
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  Speaker 2: top of the chat, and it's also pinned in the
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  Speaker 2: comment section. So hope you guys check it out tonight.
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  Speaker 2: And I wanted it to be out before the election,
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  Speaker 2: and what do you know, a day before the election
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  Speaker 2: it dropped. So thank you, guys. I hope you guys
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  Speaker 2: really enjoy it. So with that exciting news down we
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  Speaker 2: have with us today. Nick from the Occult Rejects, I've
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  Speaker 2: been on his show a few times, and I thought
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  Speaker 2: it would be cool to bring him on over here.
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  Speaker 2: We're going to be having a discussion about magic, death
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  Speaker 2: and crossing over after death. Nick, welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 2: It's good to see you, my friend.
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  Speaker 8: What's going on? Thank you very much for having me on, man,
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  Speaker 8: I appreciate it, pleasure.
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  Speaker 6: What do you think?
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  Speaker 2: What do you think about Stanley Kubrick bro You think
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  Speaker 2: he was in the Sun Magic?
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  Speaker 8: I think I think he was going to cull this.
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  Speaker 8: I think he crossed the abyss and he understood the secrets.
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  Speaker 8: I actually think there's a lot of eyeball symbolism in
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  Speaker 8: that movie or that guy was definitely definitely understanding of
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  Speaker 8: what's going on.
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  Speaker 6: I think, Yeah, I wou I.
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  Speaker 2: Would have to agree with you from watching this so
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  Speaker 2: many times. But since it's your first time on the show, brother,
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  Speaker 2: can you let people know what your show is about,
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  Speaker 2: what you do and what got you interested in doing
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  Speaker 2: the podcast and you know, getting into all this occult
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  Speaker 2: and magic stuff.
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  Speaker 8: Well, for a while I had studied the occult. I
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  Speaker 8: even was a member for a while, probably for about
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  Speaker 8: six years, a member of the Auto Temple. Orientas didn't
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  Speaker 8: seem a reason to go there anymore. So I left
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  Speaker 8: it really didn't have anything to offer me, and I
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  Speaker 8: just wasn't down with just some of the things that
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  Speaker 8: they were deciding to do and changing.
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  Speaker 6: But I mean, I've I've practiced.
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  Speaker 8: I'm into the kabbala, I'm into tarot, I'm into planetary
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  Speaker 8: magic rituals. You know, I've studied all that stuff, books, people,
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  Speaker 8: you know, all the cult is from the past. I
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  Speaker 8: do have experience grossing the abyss And yeah, I have
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  Speaker 8: the podcast, The Occult Rejects that drops two.
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  Speaker 6: Times a week.
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  Speaker 8: It's on bitchoot Rumble and YouTube, and it's all on
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  Speaker 8: all major podcasts, and we talk about anything from conspiracies,
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  Speaker 8: if there's possibly a cult in it, cults, magic, We
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  Speaker 8: have authors on, We cover books, we cover you know,
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  Speaker 8: ideas of our archetypes, different types of magic, you know,
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  Speaker 8: all sorts of stuff. We have a lot of educational stuff.
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  Speaker 8: If people are into magic and the occult, we have
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  Speaker 8: a lot of stuff for that.
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  Speaker 6: Sure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I was on your show talking about
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  Speaker 2: UFO cults before.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, I definitely want to get from the show. Definitely
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  Speaker 8: get you on for this topic. I think this would
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  Speaker 8: be great for the channel.
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  Speaker 2: So crossing the Abyss. I had Ryan Burns on not
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  Speaker 2: too long ago, and he was talking about how Michael Lakino.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sure you know who Michael Aquino is, of course,
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  Speaker 2: but he was talking about this thing called the Red Right.
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  Speaker 2: Have you ever heard of the Red Right? Where he
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  Speaker 2: basically does this magical incantation on a pregnant woman and
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  Speaker 2: then kills himself and then he is reincarnated as that
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  Speaker 2: baby inside of the womb. Have you heard any magic
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  Speaker 2: like that?
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  Speaker 8: I mean, it was There's times I've even explained on
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  Speaker 8: some shows when I've had a magical experience, I think
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  Speaker 8: you do kind of go back in time, you go
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  Speaker 8: back in spirit. Obviously you're gonna have to mean you're
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  Speaker 8: not in the flesh anymore if you cross the abyss.
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  Speaker 8: There's been times where I have thought, like I've seen
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  Speaker 8: visions of myself in the womb, but never anything like that,
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  Speaker 8: you know, But so there is that connection though.
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  Speaker 2: Is this would this beyonder like the influence of let's
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  Speaker 2: get a medicine, or is this like a real type
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  Speaker 2: of experience.
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  Speaker 8: That's something I actually want to get get out straight forward,
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  Speaker 8: before COVID happened, I started having magical experience in crossing
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  Speaker 8: the abyss. I did not stop. I did not start
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  Speaker 8: smoking weed again after stopping for about fifteen years until
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  Speaker 8: COVID came, so I had no drugs in my system.
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  Speaker 8: And actually, on my show, I don't promote drugs for magic.
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  Speaker 8: I don't think it's needed, So there was no drugs involved.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, I smoke weed now, but I do not
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  Speaker 8: need drugs to fuck with magic at all.
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  Speaker 2: That's interesting because it seems like a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: have like wild experiences on you know, psychedelics and things
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  Speaker 2: like that that can be considered, but there's different ways
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  Speaker 2: to do it. And you can actually experience the exact
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  Speaker 2: same thing with the DMT that you do with if
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  Speaker 2: you can just get into deep meditation and like breathwork,
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  Speaker 2: like you can experience almost the same thing. So crossing
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  Speaker 2: the abyss, though, what does that experience like and what
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  Speaker 2: does that actually mean? What is this good like crossing
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  Speaker 2: the veil? Is this a near death experience? What's going
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  Speaker 2: on there?
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  Speaker 8: If you want to really practice magic and cross the
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  Speaker 8: abyss and have any experience with God, you're gonna have
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  Speaker 8: to be okay with temporary suicide because you are pulling
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  Speaker 8: your own plug. Out, you're killing yourself for a few seconds.
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  Speaker 8: You're actually slipping your soul out of your body, and
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  Speaker 8: you're fucking dead straight up.
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  Speaker 6: That's what happened.
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  Speaker 8: Are very very very close to it actual travel, like
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  Speaker 8: you're kind of close to it, but that's what it is.
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  Speaker 8: If you're gonna you ever see the movie Flatliners, Yes,
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  Speaker 8: that's real. That is real. That's what magic is. But
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  Speaker 8: you can do it in different ways. You don't have
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  Speaker 8: to do it with a cheat code like that. You
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  Speaker 8: don't have to do it with medicine. You don't have
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  Speaker 8: to do it with drugs. I mean, that's even another
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  Speaker 8: thing with drugs. These people are having these experiences with
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  Speaker 8: their eyes open, and that's not magic.
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  Speaker 6: Your eyes are gonna be closed.
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  Speaker 8: You're gonna be in a deep meditation, and your body's
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  Speaker 8: gonna stop doing what it's doing, and you're gonna die
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  Speaker 8: for a few seconds, and you're gonna see your soul's
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  Speaker 8: gonna slip out.
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  Speaker 6: And there's this constant visual that.
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  Speaker 8: You will see every time it happens, which is what
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  Speaker 8: I've explained to other shows, is a constant feeling that
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  Speaker 8: you will feel the same exact feeling, physical feeling before
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  Speaker 8: it happens the same exact visuals. You will see your
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  Speaker 8: swastika before you die, which is which is interesting because
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  Speaker 8: if the Nazis were into death, it's kind of fitting
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  Speaker 8: because that is a vision you'll see before you die.
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  Speaker 2: What is it? What would be the difference in doing
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  Speaker 2: that and having an out of body experience because you
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  Speaker 2: mentioned that it's your soul basically exiting your body. Is
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  Speaker 2: that not the same as like what would be considered
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  Speaker 2: an astral experience or an out of body experience.
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  Speaker 8: For me, when I've had out of body that I
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  Speaker 8: believe were out of body experiences because it was like
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  Speaker 8: kind of like in the same time and place, I
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  Speaker 8: never had that physical feeling in those visions beforehand. This
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  Speaker 8: is a little bit more dragged out and drawn out experience,
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  Speaker 8: and even after the fact. I will say, if somebody
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  Speaker 8: practices magic and does that a few times within like
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  Speaker 8: a certain amount of time, it's even gonna start to
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  Speaker 8: like giving you physical ailments and probably fraw you out,
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  Speaker 8: like you'll end up like Kanye West to Joe.
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  Speaker 6: Biden if you fuck with this shit too much as
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  Speaker 6: his mind.
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  Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying, You start doing just start
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  Speaker 8: because you're you're stuck out there and you're stuck here
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  Speaker 8: at the same time, and you're not making sense to people.
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  Speaker 8: But uh yeah, that that and I've never had like
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  Speaker 8: really any side effects uh from really as still travel.
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  Speaker 8: But again, I do think with astral travel, you're still
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  Speaker 8: like a little bit more like tethered to your your body.
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  Speaker 6: Because you're really not going that I don't think that far.
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  Speaker 8: But with real magic, like if you're actually kind of
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  Speaker 8: going back to the source or tapping into you know,
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  Speaker 8: the oul or whatever, you're you're pretty far out there,
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  Speaker 8: almost pretty much disconnected.
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  Speaker 2: Now what do you mean by like real magic? Are
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  Speaker 2: we talking like Elena Bravlovsky type magic, Alistair Crowley type magic.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think of those individuals?
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  Speaker 8: Well, I think they understood magic. I think they had
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  Speaker 8: magical experiences. I think they understood the physiology that's going on.
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  Speaker 8: I think they understood like the change in the eyeball,
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  Speaker 8: on the brain and you know, other things inside your
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  Speaker 8: body as it happens. Because again, you know you're if
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  Speaker 8: you're going to slip out, there's going to be changes
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  Speaker 8: within oneself, especially with your eyes. Yeah, I think I
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  Speaker 8: think see this is this is the thing too. If
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  Speaker 8: if I get into it and get to the whole
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  Speaker 8: experience and what happens after the fact. In my opinion,
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  Speaker 8: and this is just me, just me, I don't think
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  Speaker 8: people really get judged to where they're going or kind
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  Speaker 8: of who they are until you actually have a magical experience,
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  Speaker 8: because in my opinion, you're when you have this magical experience,
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  Speaker 8: you haven't any experience with God. And if you decide
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  Speaker 8: to open up your eyes and be a piece of
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  Speaker 8: shit about it after the fact, I mean, that's that's
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  Speaker 8: that was your choice, you know.
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  Speaker 6: What I'm saying.
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  Speaker 8: You decided to use use a blessing to fat in
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  Speaker 8: your pockets or manipulate human beings with instead of like,
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  Speaker 8: you know, helping them advance themselves. You know. So I
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  Speaker 8: I do think that until you have a magical experience,
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  Speaker 8: I really don't even think you you know, I think
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  Speaker 8: after that, what you decide to do.
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  Speaker 6: With it is what's really important.
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  Speaker 8: And some people, I think choose choose to do bad things.
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  Speaker 2: Al wants to know what God you're speaking about, which
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  Speaker 2: I think is also important as well, because there's so
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  Speaker 2: many different gods or so many different beings that people worship.
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  Speaker 2: There's so many different religions out there and everything.
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  Speaker 8: Once once I put a label on it, it means it's something,
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  Speaker 8: that it's something, isn't you know what I'm saying? That
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  Speaker 8: this is a table, so now it's not a chair.
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  Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying. You know, that's a TV.
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  Speaker 8: So now it's not my phone. God is just for me.
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  Speaker 8: It's just in all everything, all of consciousness, I guess.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, I'm not trying to really, I don't play
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  Speaker 8: religious games and I don't like, you know, try to
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  Speaker 8: throw labels on things, because then it makes it finite.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that people are really confused on what
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  Speaker 2: and who God is because there's just been so much
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  Speaker 2: garbage that's been thrown at people. You know, all the
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  Speaker 2: different denominations of religion, and all my gods better than
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  Speaker 2: your God? Odd is this God? It's it's what do
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  Speaker 2: they call him now? Jehovah? It's Jehovah, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean?
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  Speaker 6: And uh, some sometimes I explain it like this.
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  Speaker 8: If you were to take a light bulb and put
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  Speaker 8: a spaghetti strainer over it, and all the light shined
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  Speaker 8: out through those little holes, that would be us and
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  Speaker 8: the light bulb would be God. You know, we're being
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  Speaker 8: separated from a from a hole. Oh put it that way.
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  Speaker 2: Michael sending a super Chinese side in Nick's efforts. That
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  Speaker 2: can't be right. Anyone that was a good soul but
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  Speaker 2: was never around the culture of magic or robbed of
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  Speaker 2: God experience.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not exactly saying what. I don't understand what he's saying.
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  Speaker 2: Not wanting to I'm I'm not trying to read it again.
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  Speaker 2: He's saying that just because like you've never had the experience.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of like when you know, Chris say, if
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  Speaker 2: you've never heard the word of God, or if you
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  Speaker 2: don't know who Jesus is or who God is, then
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  Speaker 2: you're not going to be saved and you're not going
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  Speaker 2: to go to heaven. I think that's what he's trying
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  Speaker 2: to say as well.
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  Speaker 8: I mean, I also have a completely different belief systems
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  Speaker 8: that I'm pretty sure everybody else has. So I mean,
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  Speaker 8: this guy shouldn't really take my stuff too serious, you know,
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  Speaker 8: tell him that you don't get better heart of mating. So,
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  Speaker 8: you know, I think you know the way I believe it.
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  Speaker 6: I think.
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  Speaker 2: Where you go, well, you just glitched down. He is glitching.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for that. Super Child, though, Michael, appreciate your
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  Speaker 2: contributions to the show, and I think you sent in
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: another one earlier here a five dollars super Child. What
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  Speaker 2: do you think about Goliath being Nuphalem and getting rocked
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  Speaker 2: by the mouse. I mean, there's a lot of theories
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  Speaker 2: of who and what Goliath was, and I think a
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: lot of the stories within the Bible are metaphoric and allegory,
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  Speaker 2: and they could say a giant and it could be
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  Speaker 2: you know, Goliath, and he could have been a giant,
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  Speaker 2: or it could have been something else. You know, they
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  Speaker 2: use so many different play on words with different things,
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  Speaker 2: like things don't mean what we think that they actually mean.
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  Speaker 2: And I've tried to explain that with ufology as well.
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  Speaker 2: You know, just because it's a crash retrieval doesn't mean
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  Speaker 2: that it had crashed last week or the week before,
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  Speaker 2: or two or three months before, or even two years before.
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  Speaker 2: A crash retrieval can mean that it was crashed one
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  Speaker 2: hundred years ago or fifty years ago, or however long ago.
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  Speaker 2: And also you know that that whole alien extraterrestrial thing
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: it can be you know, I mean, look at our border,
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: you know, like those people are aliens. We already had
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: an alien invasion. Everyone's talking to aliens are calm, the
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: UFOs are coming. Well, they already came, and they've already
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: been here and that's been happening for a really long time.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: Oh well they've always been here, Yes they have, they have,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: and they've been right under our noses, just south and
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: north of us, right. And another one is like technology. Right,
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: they'll say, well, well it's a it's a technology, right,
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: And what they mean they don't mean an actual physical
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: mechanical technology mk ultra can be a technology. Remote viewing
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: is considered a technology. Right. So a lot of these
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: words don't mean what we think that they actually mean.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: I think Nick, just I'm telling them I kicked them off.
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: I'm just explaining them to ring to come back in.
• 20:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: So things don't mean what we think that they actually mean.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: And that's the occult and the hidden thing in my
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: experience of researching and looking into this stuff. It doesn't
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: actually mean what you think that It means that you
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: don't take anything at face value.
• 20:39
  Speaker 6: Right.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: It's hidden, but it's not hidden in the way that
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: you think that it's actually hidden. It's hidden in a
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: different way. And words have multiple meanings. We all know that.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: Like many people have said words or spells right while
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: they you can conjure up different meanings by putting words
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: together in a different way. Here he is, what's up, bro, Yeah,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: I don't know. You glitched out and they kicked you
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: out of the out of the stream yard chap.
• 21:12
  Speaker 6: Oh okay, all right, love that.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Word.
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: Where were we.
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: What were we mentioning?
• 21:21
  Speaker 8: Uh? Oh, I think I was talking about my belief systems.
• 21:25
  Speaker 8: But uh, whatever, you I guess you can go on
• 21:27
  Speaker 8: and ask like if there was any specific questions or
• 21:29
  Speaker 8: if you want me to maybe go into the experience
• 21:31
  Speaker 8: or whatever that's up to you.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get into the experience. Because there's some people
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: that I've had wings Stiger on several times and he
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: mentions like that he had one of these sort of
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: experiences and he described it as like a like a rainbow,
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: like he was crossing like a rainbow bridge.
• 21:53
  Speaker 8: Uh huh, yeah, I got somebody designing something to me
• 21:59
  Speaker 8: that this is very Mario from Symbolic Studies designing part
• 22:03
  Speaker 8: of the image that I have and his the part
• 22:05
  Speaker 8: that he's designing is like a little bit right after
• 22:07
  Speaker 8: the rainbow stuff that's pretty interesting.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So what's it look like. Whenever you you cross.
• 22:15
  Speaker 8: Over, It'll be like in a meditation. Sometimes it could
• 22:21
  Speaker 8: take me a while. Sometimes I mean during I will
• 22:24
  Speaker 8: say during the winter, it is a lot easier, Like
• 22:26
  Speaker 8: from close to Halloween to Christmas, it is way easier
• 22:30
  Speaker 8: in my opinion, to jump into the abyss. So it'll
• 22:35
  Speaker 8: be dark. Obviously, I've had my eyes closed for a
• 22:37
  Speaker 8: while I meditating, and then all of a sudden, it
• 22:39
  Speaker 8: will look like right in the middle or somewhere, it
• 22:42
  Speaker 8: will get darker than dark, Like it almost looks like
• 22:45
  Speaker 8: someone's like spelling oil or like blowing dust off of
• 22:48
  Speaker 8: a black canvas. So then it really looks black, and
• 22:52
  Speaker 8: you start seeing this little pin dot, this little white dot,
• 22:57
  Speaker 8: and you have to kind of like focus on your
• 23:01
  Speaker 8: third eye and you're almost kind of in my opinion,
• 23:05
  Speaker 8: I actually think Full Metal Jacket is a lot about
• 23:07
  Speaker 8: this image, because there's even times when that dude's bugging out,
• 23:11
  Speaker 8: he's looking up, he's looking up to his third eye
• 23:13
  Speaker 8: and he's like cross eye. You basically have to go
• 23:16
  Speaker 8: cross eyed and kind of focus on your third eye,
• 23:18
  Speaker 8: and you have to put pressure on it to like
• 23:19
  Speaker 8: lock onto that dot and hold it. Now that sounds crazy,
• 23:23
  Speaker 8: but it's almost like you have to like use your
• 23:25
  Speaker 8: third eye to like hold this this thing inside your
• 23:28
  Speaker 8: mind's eye where your eyes are closed, so you end
• 23:32
  Speaker 8: up like holding onto this dot. And for me, if
• 23:34
  Speaker 8: I saw pressing him up, pressing on my pino gleam
• 23:36
  Speaker 8: more so, it's like bringing it closer and you'll start
• 23:41
  Speaker 8: to see like it almost looks like outlines of like
• 23:46
  Speaker 8: clouds around it, but almost like three D, like like
• 23:50
  Speaker 8: those old image view finders. Do you remember those back
• 23:53
  Speaker 8: in the day when we used to play with those
• 23:54
  Speaker 8: things and we click different different images and make it
• 23:57
  Speaker 8: look like it's it starts to almost look like that,
• 24:03
  Speaker 8: and around this white dot that's like so bright, it's
• 24:07
  Speaker 8: like burning, and it almost looks like like clouds are
• 24:10
  Speaker 8: around it. And then you'll start to see like explosions
• 24:14
  Speaker 8: kind of behind it, and it almost starts to look
• 24:16
  Speaker 8: like roses blooming, flowers opening up. It's like a lot
• 24:21
  Speaker 8: of times sometimes I'll mention, I'll ask people, do you
• 24:24
  Speaker 8: like to watch the flowers bloom under the moonlight? You
• 24:27
  Speaker 8: know that's a way of like an occult is asking
• 24:29
  Speaker 8: another one if you seen that image before the grateful
• 24:32
  Speaker 8: Dead uses the roses a lot. I think for that reason,
• 24:34
  Speaker 8: my logo is an eclipse with roses around it, because
• 24:37
  Speaker 8: I'm trying to express this image that I see that
• 24:40
  Speaker 8: there's the explosions around this image before I cross over,
• 24:46
  Speaker 8: So you'll start seeing that, and then sometimes you'll get
• 24:52
  Speaker 8: geometric shapes. But before that, at the top, like almost
• 24:57
  Speaker 8: in four cardinal directions, you'll see red, blue, green, and purple,
• 25:05
  Speaker 8: and they'll come out not angular but curvature. Still looks
• 25:11
  Speaker 8: like a swasticker to me. It starts to spin and
• 25:16
  Speaker 8: then all these colors are basically spinning around coming at
• 25:20
  Speaker 8: you like you never see those effects where it's like
• 25:21
  Speaker 8: it's just a thing that's spinning like that. You'll see that,
• 25:25
  Speaker 8: but from all those different colors, So it starts to
• 25:27
  Speaker 8: look like the rainbow bridge that you're going down, and
• 25:31
  Speaker 8: then red.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Holy shit.
• 25:35
  Speaker 8: Then then and then that must mean that I am right.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Then, yeah, you must be, because.
• 25:42
  Speaker 8: A lot of people think I'm just talking trash and
• 25:44
  Speaker 8: I hate I'm actually the real motherfucker. So then sometimes
• 25:49
  Speaker 8: you'll start seeing geometric shapes that will start spinning too.
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: But after that, yeah, I love this part.
• 25:58
  Speaker 8: This is the fucking best, all of a sudden starts
• 26:02
  Speaker 8: to look like almost film wheels coming out of the
• 26:06
  Speaker 8: middle of this eclipse. And the eclipse is like a
• 26:10
  Speaker 8: black circle with a white circle with a black one
• 26:13
  Speaker 8: over it, and so what you see is this white
• 26:17
  Speaker 8: ring and you start seeing these these cellular looking things,
• 26:21
  Speaker 8: almost like rectangles, or the ways I describe it is
• 26:24
  Speaker 8: either film film cells. Or if you were standing in
• 26:28
  Speaker 8: the middle of like a subway and you had two
• 26:30
  Speaker 8: cars going past you at you, both going past you
• 26:33
  Speaker 8: that way but slow, and all you saw was like
• 26:36
  Speaker 8: the train car windows and they look like like cellophane
• 26:40
  Speaker 8: with a sepia look on them, and it's all different
• 26:44
  Speaker 8: visions of like different times in places, and it starts
• 26:47
  Speaker 8: just going.
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: Really slow past you.
• 26:51
  Speaker 8: There has been one time where I was like kind
• 26:53
  Speaker 8: of interested in what was in there, so like it's
• 26:56
  Speaker 8: it's actually like you have no body, You're.
• 26:58
  Speaker 6: Just visioning stuff. There's there's no you, it's just this vision.
• 27:02
  Speaker 8: And it's like I kind of like moved over and
• 27:05
  Speaker 8: looked into the vision, and to me it was like
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: either it looked like a nuclear fallouter like it could
• 27:11
  Speaker 8: have been Arizona, but you know, I couldn't tell what
• 27:13
  Speaker 8: it was it just looked like barren and it didn't
• 27:15
  Speaker 8: look interesting to me, and I was like, I don't
• 27:17
  Speaker 8: think I want to go there, and then I came
• 27:20
  Speaker 8: out of it. But other times when i've and that's
• 27:24
  Speaker 8: another thing too. After every time I have this experience,
• 27:26
  Speaker 8: as soon as I start to think itself, it ends, which.
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: I think is the problem.
• 27:32
  Speaker 8: So now these movie things are coming out, and the
• 27:38
  Speaker 8: thing in the middle starts getting even brighter. Now at
• 27:42
  Speaker 8: this point, I start getting these physical feelings where it
• 27:46
  Speaker 8: almost feels like I start getting a fluttering in the
• 27:48
  Speaker 8: bottom of my feet.
• 27:50
  Speaker 6: And I could be either.
• 27:51
  Speaker 8: Just sitting down in a chair with my arms straight
• 27:53
  Speaker 8: on my legs and my back on a flat chair
• 27:56
  Speaker 8: of flat back, or I could just be laying down
• 27:59
  Speaker 8: and it will almost start to feel like as it's
• 28:02
  Speaker 8: going up that like whatever, like if my if I
• 28:05
  Speaker 8: feel it up by my ank by buying knees. Now
• 28:07
  Speaker 8: everything below my knees doesn't even exist. It's like it
• 28:09
  Speaker 8: just blew away, or like sand that just went and
• 28:11
  Speaker 8: it's no longer there. And then it starts to come up.
• 28:14
  Speaker 8: But it feels like all the energy from underneath is
• 28:16
  Speaker 8: starting to build up and come up. This way, and
• 28:19
  Speaker 8: everything seems like it's like almost like just my head.
• 28:23
  Speaker 8: And then the crazy thing is is that after that,
• 28:26
  Speaker 8: the only way I can explain it, it's is, I
• 28:28
  Speaker 8: guess like if you were sitting on the beach and
• 28:31
  Speaker 8: you were laying there and the water came up, but
• 28:33
  Speaker 8: somehow instead of going around you and splashing against the
• 28:36
  Speaker 8: bottomy of your feet, it just like went through you,
• 28:38
  Speaker 8: like you all of a sudden feel like this flow
• 28:40
  Speaker 8: of like waters and waves go through your whole body again,
• 28:45
  Speaker 8: and then it like goes up into my head and
• 28:48
  Speaker 8: then it's like sh right out. And every time I've
• 28:51
  Speaker 8: always felt it right where.
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: The Jews put the yamaga.
• 28:55
  Speaker 8: It's right in that spot, And in my opinion, I
• 28:58
  Speaker 8: think that's for one of the reasons. And I think
• 29:00
  Speaker 8: they're also reduplicating a pupil to an eyeball because your
• 29:03
  Speaker 8: eye is going through changes with all this stuff as well,
• 29:06
  Speaker 8: And that'd be too long probably to get into with this.
• 29:08
  Speaker 8: But there is a lot of stuff physiology why is
• 29:10
  Speaker 8: going on, I believe as well. But all of a
• 29:14
  Speaker 8: sudden it starts to come out the back of your
• 29:17
  Speaker 8: head and around this time where you start feeling that
• 29:22
  Speaker 8: pressure before you come out the back of your head.
• 29:25
  Speaker 8: I'm like pressing on my pineal gland. In this eclipse,
• 29:29
  Speaker 8: the black part starts pulling up off of the white
• 29:33
  Speaker 8: orb to where it actually looks like how a moon
• 29:39
  Speaker 8: would wax and wane, but just turned another way, or
• 29:43
  Speaker 8: if like the way like sometimes like a camera would open,
• 29:46
  Speaker 8: like if you pull the circle shutter off, And as
• 29:50
  Speaker 8: it starts to come up and disconnect from the white part, bam,
• 29:56
  Speaker 8: all of a sudden, you feel everything go through your
• 29:58
  Speaker 8: head out the t and you feel like you're burst
• 30:01
  Speaker 8: into butterflies and you're just like you feel like, all
• 30:04
  Speaker 8: of a sudden, you feel completely weightless, and all of
• 30:09
  Speaker 8: a sudden you have no more anxiety, no more fear,
• 30:14
  Speaker 8: no more hate, and all you feel is like something
• 30:19
  Speaker 8: that's like a thousand times stronger than any love you
• 30:21
  Speaker 8: think you ever had for a child, a wife, parent,
• 30:24
  Speaker 8: A thousand times stronger than any drug you've ever taken,
• 30:27
  Speaker 8: every nut you've ever busted. It is not compared to anything.
• 30:30
  Speaker 8: It's all of a sudden, you just feel this immense
• 30:33
  Speaker 8: feeling of love and it's just for existing. From my
• 30:38
  Speaker 8: experience going completely deaf, everything is just visuals and you
• 30:42
  Speaker 8: literally feel like you're actually pulling out and expanding into
• 30:46
  Speaker 8: like the fabric of everything that you're existing and seeing,
• 30:51
  Speaker 8: and like a lot of times it's just always like
• 30:52
  Speaker 8: different things, but I will get that whole feeling and
• 30:57
  Speaker 8: like you can literally like it even feel like even
• 31:00
  Speaker 8: in your eyes, like it feels like you're going out
• 31:03
  Speaker 8: like in like, it is definitely a feeling that I've
• 31:08
  Speaker 8: never experienced before either except for magic. And yeah, I
• 31:15
  Speaker 8: mean that's kind of basically what the visual is like
• 31:18
  Speaker 8: and the feeling just from you know, pretty basic way
• 31:22
  Speaker 8: to cover it.
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: When you say like pressing on your pineal gland, you mean.
• 31:26
  Speaker 6: Oh, yeah, that's another thing you press. I press on it.
• 31:29
  Speaker 8: It's so hard at one point that I think, and
• 31:32
  Speaker 8: this is what I even think, kind of like the
• 31:34
  Speaker 8: Archer might show, and I even think you're witnessing it
• 31:37
  Speaker 8: with the black circle and the white sphere. There's a
• 31:41
  Speaker 8: polarity change I think happening because you'll be pressing so hard,
• 31:45
  Speaker 8: almost like you're pushing on the circle, that something snaps
• 31:48
  Speaker 8: and then it flies fucking at you. So it's like
• 31:51
  Speaker 8: almost like you've just changed polarity instead of pushing. Now
• 31:54
  Speaker 8: it's coming back and it's like you shoot yourself in
• 31:56
  Speaker 8: the head, almost like in Apocalypse Now when that guy's
• 31:59
  Speaker 8: talk and that dude about getting shot with the diamond
• 32:01
  Speaker 8: in his Pineo Glang guys talking about having a magical experience,
• 32:06
  Speaker 8: So what it looks like.
• 32:08
  Speaker 6: That's like another thing.
• 32:09
  Speaker 8: You got a lot of people, you know, these horror
• 32:10
  Speaker 8: core rappers talking about, you know, shooting themselves or killing motherfuckers.
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: It's the same thing.
• 32:15
  Speaker 8: When you're looking down the barrel of a gun and
• 32:17
  Speaker 8: pulling the trigger, you're gonna see the same image and
• 32:20
  Speaker 8: you're getting shot in the head.
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: That's what it feels like. Get shot in the.
• 32:23
  Speaker 8: Head and you get blown out the back of your
• 32:25
  Speaker 8: head and your soul slips out. You know, there's there's
• 32:29
  Speaker 8: there's a lot of imagery and there's a lot of
• 32:30
  Speaker 8: things that that are out in the open that people
• 32:33
  Speaker 8: don't even realize that this stuff is actually put in
• 32:36
  Speaker 8: the front of their face. With the eclipse, death and magic, it's.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Interesting that you say that you're talking about this eclipse
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: because I had an experience that was not really anything
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: like what you're mentioning, but it was similar in the
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: fact that I was getting ready to get outside of
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: my body. I was doing a breathwork exercise was really
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: late at night. It was about four in the morning,
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: when the melotone in the natural melotonin in your brain
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: is at its highest. I'm doing this breath work, I'm
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: laying down, I'm listening to some frequencies, and like you said,
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: it started at my feet, like this tingling type of
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: sensation at my feet, and then it just went up
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: through my entire body until it got to the top
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: of my head, and then I my eyes were closed
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: the entire time, and then I like and I saw
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: myself in like this. I don't even know how to
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: explain it. It's like it's like really like a circle.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: But I was had one leg through the circle, like
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: I was trying to climb out of this reality like
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: and get to another like outside of my body or
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: to another reality or something. I don't know what was
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: going on. And I was about to get out through
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: this circle in reality, this hole in reality, and I
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: had one leg over it, and then I snapped out
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: of it. But that's the closest that I had ever
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: come to having anything similar to what you're talking about.
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: Did you get nervous at any point?
• 34:09
  Speaker 8: No, All right, I'm just wondering because I do believe
• 34:12
  Speaker 8: like if you get fearful of the images you're seeing,
• 34:14
  Speaker 8: that's what's gonna screw you up to And as soon
• 34:15
  Speaker 8: as you think itself.
• 34:17
  Speaker 6: That's why I even think, like the orphaned of Me
• 34:18
  Speaker 6: even says, don't fear Well, I was.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: I was living with someone at the time, and they
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: like slam the door really quickly, like that was in
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: my area, and I think that's what snapped me out
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: of it.
• 34:28
  Speaker 8: Oh yeah, man, Yeah, I don't know. That'd be interesting
• 34:32
  Speaker 8: if anything ever like that happens to you, let me know.
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: It's interesting. If you ever see the eclipse, try to
• 34:37
  Speaker 6: hold onto that.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it wasn't like a it wasn't brighter, and it
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: was just like sort of like a like just a
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: hole in the reality. And I really couldn't Okay, I
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: guess I could maybe explain it, like I could only
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: see where I was like through the hole, so everything
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: outside of the hole was like completely black, and then
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: everything inside of the whole like was my living room
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: where I was doing it. Gotcha, Then I was getting
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: ready to go into the blackness or whatever the unknown
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: or whatever that was outside of this reality.
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: That's weird.
• 35:18
  Speaker 8: I don't know, you might have been having like your
• 35:20
  Speaker 8: own got close to one. Maybe I don't know.
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: It's not good though, Is this similar to like a.
• 35:28
  Speaker 8: Oh and like the another thing I want to add too,
• 35:30
  Speaker 8: another thing I would like to add Only one time, now,
• 35:34
  Speaker 8: one time I used I was doing a ritual. It
• 35:37
  Speaker 8: was a Friday, so I was probably like messing with
• 35:39
  Speaker 8: like netsuck from the Cabbalistic tree or Hath or some
• 35:43
  Speaker 8: sort of idea of like love or passion. And that's
• 35:48
  Speaker 8: the only time I was ever really doing a ritual.
• 35:50
  Speaker 8: And when I had an experience then I think that
• 35:52
  Speaker 8: was a little bit more like extra travel than actual magic,
• 35:56
  Speaker 8: because I didn't have that whole scenario that I just
• 35:59
  Speaker 8: told you happened after that. Because even even when I
• 36:03
  Speaker 8: had this other experience when I was working with hathor
• 36:06
  Speaker 8: a thing, it was weird enough to where it's like
• 36:08
  Speaker 8: I felt like I went somewhere that wasn't here. So
• 36:12
  Speaker 8: I was like, you know what, I'm gonna chill out
• 36:13
  Speaker 8: with the rituals and just meditate. All these other times
• 36:16
  Speaker 8: that I've had these extreme experiences, they have actually all
• 36:21
  Speaker 8: been just for me meditating. Like I even say I
• 36:24
  Speaker 8: don't even think you really need the ritual stuff. I
• 36:27
  Speaker 8: think I believe it or not. I think some of
• 36:28
  Speaker 8: the rituals are actually showing you the change going on
• 36:30
  Speaker 8: inside yourble believe it or not. So I think it's
• 36:33
  Speaker 8: just kind of like showing you, like what's going on
• 36:35
  Speaker 8: when you have this experience and this change in yourself
• 36:37
  Speaker 8: and cross the abyss. I think all you have to
• 36:40
  Speaker 8: do is be able to learn to meditate and shut
• 36:42
  Speaker 8: shit off and be able to find that eclipse and
• 36:44
  Speaker 8: hold on to it. I do not think all that,
• 36:47
  Speaker 8: That's just my opinion. I don't think you need all
• 36:49
  Speaker 8: that rituals stuff and all those gods. All that stuff
• 36:52
  Speaker 8: is a siah in my belief, believing in all these
• 36:55
  Speaker 8: gods and asking them to your slave. I never even
• 36:59
  Speaker 8: got into that when I practiced the stuff, like I
• 37:01
  Speaker 8: would ask them for help. But I was like yo,
• 37:02
  Speaker 8: I'm like no, I wasn't worshiping these I don't know.
• 37:05
  Speaker 8: People get confused, I think with that stuff, and I
• 37:07
  Speaker 8: think it becomes handcuffs instead of freedom when people start
• 37:12
  Speaker 8: doing stuff like that you.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Were mentioning earlier, like symbols and like seeing symbols and
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: different kinds of was it like geometry, because whenever I
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: was a lot younger, like I would see these weird
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: geometric patterns in my head, like when I would close
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: my eyes and I and there would just be like
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: I didn't understand them. I didn't know what was going on.
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: They were just like they were like always moving and
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: coming in and like flashing and then like dissipating, and
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: it would be something different like every time, Yeah, somewhar.
• 37:46
  Speaker 8: Though, it would be like spinning and they would like
• 37:48
  Speaker 8: change and flash and like different designs, And I was like,
• 37:51
  Speaker 8: that's that's how I remember it. But that experience doesn't
• 37:54
  Speaker 8: happen every time for some reason for me. Well maybe
• 37:57
  Speaker 8: I just don't.
• 37:57
  Speaker 6: I don't know how. I don't remember.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: But this was a time.
• 38:02
  Speaker 8: There was a time when I did this three times
• 38:04
  Speaker 8: in a week and I actually had to end up
• 38:06
  Speaker 8: going to the hospital. That's another thing I would like
• 38:08
  Speaker 8: to add. I actually had a blood issue, which I
• 38:11
  Speaker 8: find very interesting. My hemoglobin spiked up to sixteen point
• 38:15
  Speaker 8: nine instead of being at an average of thirteen or fourteen,
• 38:18
  Speaker 8: and they're like, your blood is like sludge, and they
• 38:19
  Speaker 8: had to give me a bag of blood and a
• 38:20
  Speaker 8: bag of siling and my eyeballs every time I mess
• 38:26
  Speaker 8: with magic and if for me, now I can just
• 38:29
  Speaker 8: meditate on the eclipse and hold it and I can
• 38:31
  Speaker 8: look at it before it starts the movie real stuff,
• 38:34
  Speaker 8: and it's still you know, I get something out of that,
• 38:37
  Speaker 8: I think. So I don't always, like normally, you know,
• 38:40
  Speaker 8: go full force, and I haven't. I haven't crossed the
• 38:42
  Speaker 8: Abyss in about two years, but you know, I will
• 38:46
  Speaker 8: meditate on the eclipse for a while every time. Even
• 38:51
  Speaker 8: when I do that, my pupils change. They unyoke, which
• 38:55
  Speaker 8: I think is an actual side effect, and I think
• 38:57
  Speaker 8: that's actually in symbolism. You have to un unyoke your eyes.
• 39:01
  Speaker 8: One's gonna be big the pupil, and the other one's
• 39:03
  Speaker 8: gonna be small. You're gonna be in fight and flight mode,
• 39:05
  Speaker 8: just like Horase. Your eyeballs will change. And that's always
• 39:10
  Speaker 8: a constant with me. If I go look in the
• 39:13
  Speaker 8: mirror sometimes, which I've shown people before, if I go
• 39:18
  Speaker 8: and stare in the mirror, my eyeballs will actually change.
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: One will get big and one will get small. As fuck.
• 39:25
  Speaker 8: It is, but it's like a thing that happens now.
• 39:26
  Speaker 8: Sometimes when I look in the mirror, it just does
• 39:28
  Speaker 8: it on its own.
• 39:30
  Speaker 6: Hm.
• 39:33
  Speaker 8: And I've had my eyes looked since the hospital from
• 39:35
  Speaker 8: a professional and they were like, I don't know what's wrong,
• 39:37
  Speaker 8: but your eyesight's fine. They even told me they're like
• 39:42
  Speaker 8: they even saw, like they've even put down your pupils.
• 39:46
  Speaker 8: At one point when I was in the hospital, it
• 39:48
  Speaker 8: was four milimeters bigger than the other one, and by
• 39:50
  Speaker 8: the time I saw the specialist two weeks later, they
• 39:52
  Speaker 8: said it was still at least two to three milimeters
• 39:54
  Speaker 8: bigger than the other one. It eventually went back, but
• 39:57
  Speaker 8: it took weeks, believe it or not, for my eyes
• 39:59
  Speaker 8: to actually fix. For about a month, I was walking
• 40:01
  Speaker 8: around with different pupils.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: My pupil on my left I has been split in half.
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: Half.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: My pupil is split on my left eye.
• 40:15
  Speaker 8: David Bowie had like some weird thing with his eye too,
• 40:20
  Speaker 8: I think where one of his pupils was bigger than
• 40:22
  Speaker 8: the other one naturally.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: And you equate that to like having these experiences you
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: didn't notice it before?
• 40:29
  Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I mean I even would have thought, like
• 40:33
  Speaker 8: the people I was with at the time would have
• 40:34
  Speaker 8: noticed that shit, you know what I'm saying. My wife
• 40:38
  Speaker 8: and not have noticed that like, you know, my pupils
• 40:41
  Speaker 8: were off. You know, he even noticed it was something
• 40:44
  Speaker 8: wrong with them after the fact.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Would this be like similar to like what people describe
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: as like a Kundalini experience.
• 40:56
  Speaker 8: Uh, yeah, to an extent. I mean, if you go
• 40:59
  Speaker 8: from the bottom up, you're gonna bust out. Yeah, so,
• 41:05
  Speaker 8: I mean I do think that's that's my opinion. I mean,
• 41:08
  Speaker 8: going up is that's the same reason, the same thing
• 41:12
  Speaker 8: that you're doing that I'm feeling. You know, I'm rising
• 41:15
  Speaker 8: all my energy up and out with the fucking you know,
• 41:18
  Speaker 8: flesh prison, the flesh suit. I think all that stuff
• 41:23
  Speaker 8: is basically explaining the same thing. Yes, busting out of
• 41:26
  Speaker 8: busting out and crossing the abyss.
• 41:29
  Speaker 6: Hm hmm.
• 41:31
  Speaker 8: That's even another weird thing, like even with you you know,
• 41:33
  Speaker 8: it's not to get too much into it, but like
• 41:35
  Speaker 8: you know, I was talking about the eyeballs before. You know,
• 41:38
  Speaker 8: when your when your pupil changes, the hylloid canal in
• 41:40
  Speaker 8: your eyebolt will bend or stay straight. It's gonna be
• 41:44
  Speaker 8: an eye or look like an S or an eye
• 41:45
  Speaker 8: and look like an S. I mean you're even getting
• 41:47
  Speaker 8: isis when you want to start playing with the way
• 41:49
  Speaker 8: your eyes change when you're fucking with magic. I mean
• 41:52
  Speaker 8: it's you know, Mason. Sometimes when they go like this,
• 41:55
  Speaker 8: it's because they're showing you that they're pulling on their
• 41:57
  Speaker 8: hylloid canal and actually stretching their pupil back.
• 42:03
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 42:03
  Speaker 8: This thing sometimes doesn't always mean six six six, It can,
• 42:08
  Speaker 8: but your pupil screws closed in three different segments eight
• 42:13
  Speaker 8: to six, six to four, and then four to two,
• 42:16
  Speaker 8: and it spreads out like a crust when it opens up.
• 42:19
  Speaker 8: And the same muscle that's in your eye, the sphinxter,
• 42:22
  Speaker 8: it's the same one that's in your ass. So when
• 42:26
  Speaker 8: some occultists come out and say magic's in the butt,
• 42:28
  Speaker 8: maybe they're actually trying to tell you magic's in your eyeball.
• 42:31
  Speaker 8: But no, we always got to go with gay sex.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: That's so true.
• 42:40
  Speaker 6: On somebody about it.
• 42:41
  Speaker 8: That's why it's not fun for people to actually like
• 42:43
  Speaker 8: study occultism in the eyes, because if it doesn't give
• 42:46
  Speaker 8: you anybody to hate, you're actually gonna have to learn it.
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: It's more than a meme.
• 42:49
  Speaker 8: But if people to actually look at how the eyeballs
• 42:52
  Speaker 8: work and actually look at pictures of what the eyeballs
• 42:55
  Speaker 8: look like, especially the zignules. Is in the optic nerve
• 42:58
  Speaker 8: and the lens. You will see major, major occult symbolism
• 43:02
  Speaker 8: just in the eyeball. You'll be like, I've seen that.
• 43:04
  Speaker 8: I've seen that. I've seen that. I've seen that. Holy shit,
• 43:06
  Speaker 8: it's been in my face this whole time. Go to
• 43:09
  Speaker 8: a Catholic church and go in there with pictures of
• 43:12
  Speaker 8: some eyeballs, you'll be like, holy crap, it's all over
• 43:15
  Speaker 8: the place. That's all their churches are is the eyeballs,
• 43:19
  Speaker 8: in the brain and in front of your face. They use
• 43:22
  Speaker 8: seashells instead of the our serrata. They use the water
• 43:26
  Speaker 8: instead of the virtuous humor. You're drinking the blood which
• 43:29
  Speaker 8: is in the the vicherous no, sorry, the vitious humor,
• 43:32
  Speaker 8: which has blood in it. In front of your eye,
• 43:34
  Speaker 8: you have water. In the back of your eye, you
• 43:36
  Speaker 8: have blood. You're going from water to wine right there,
• 43:40
  Speaker 8: going to the blood of Christ right there, and in
• 43:43
  Speaker 8: the front part of your eye, where there's water between
• 43:46
  Speaker 8: that is the oura serrata. That looks like a seashell.
• 43:48
  Speaker 8: That's the fucking baptism right there. You see that shit
• 43:51
  Speaker 8: all over churches and all over Italy. The seashell with
• 43:54
  Speaker 8: warning water out of it. It's showing you your fucking eye.
• 43:57
  Speaker 6: Man.
• 43:59
  Speaker 8: It's all that shit is all over Catholic churches, especially
• 44:03
  Speaker 8: during the Renaissance time. I have a tattoo on my
• 44:05
  Speaker 8: own that looks like the Birth of Venus. It's a
• 44:08
  Speaker 8: chick waterfall. You can't really see it. That's designed off
• 44:12
  Speaker 8: of a fucking eyeball. People would have no idea. Let's
• 44:15
  Speaker 8: I explained it to him. If you look at the
• 44:18
  Speaker 8: Birth of Venus and you go look at a picture
• 44:20
  Speaker 8: of an eyeball, you'll be like, holy shit, this dude
• 44:22
  Speaker 8: just copied the eyeball and made that chick a pitch.
• 44:25
  Speaker 8: You took the hyloid canal and you made it into
• 44:28
  Speaker 8: a woman, and you're seeing the same exact image. Somehow,
• 44:33
  Speaker 8: these people knew. If you go sixteen hundreds, Robert Flood,
• 44:37
  Speaker 8: sixteen hundreds, this guy was drawing pictures of the inside
• 44:39
  Speaker 8: of your eyeball on your brain, more descriptive than they're
• 44:42
  Speaker 8: even taking pictures of nowadays.
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: How are they doing that.
• 44:46
  Speaker 8: You can literally go into books from the sixteen hundreds,
• 44:48
  Speaker 8: if you know the authors and you can find the PDFs,
• 44:50
  Speaker 8: you will see these people are drawing the inside of
• 44:52
  Speaker 8: their brains.
• 44:52
  Speaker 6: And they were a cultist. There were Rosa Crucians. They
• 44:55
  Speaker 6: know what was up.
• 44:58
  Speaker 8: It all has to do with taking light inside your eye,
• 45:01
  Speaker 8: writing that shit back to your uh, your third eye,
• 45:03
  Speaker 8: and blasting out and writing the lightning and getting the
• 45:05
  Speaker 8: fuck out of the meat prison. Because you're taking the
• 45:09
  Speaker 8: sunlight and it converts into electricity inside your head in
• 45:12
  Speaker 8: the optic nerve.
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: We actually converted with our eyes. We are basically biological AI.
• 45:21
  Speaker 8: That's solar power, I hate to say it, solar power,
• 45:23
  Speaker 8: biological AI. We're taking the information from the sun, we
• 45:27
  Speaker 8: decode it in our eyes and it turns into electricity
• 45:29
  Speaker 8: and our arctic nerve, and then it tells our brain
• 45:33
  Speaker 8: what the fuck we're doing and could and even you know,
• 45:37
  Speaker 8: all the impulses and now and everything from the electric
• 45:40
  Speaker 8: that we converted from the sun through our eyes.
• 45:45
  Speaker 6: It's all the eyes in the brain. Man.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: That's a mind blower, dude, that's a mind blower. And
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: that really describes all of the one eye symbolism, like
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: the sun being the sun of God.
• 45:58
  Speaker 8: Like, well, you think me gave us PROTHEUS gave us fires.
• 46:03
  Speaker 8: So in case you're in a cave and you can't
• 46:04
  Speaker 8: see the sun. If you can start a fire, you
• 46:06
  Speaker 8: can still practice magic and get the fuck out of
• 46:08
  Speaker 8: here because you need light. You need to get light
• 46:10
  Speaker 8: inside your eyes, close them, and then write that shit
• 46:13
  Speaker 8: out your fucking suit. That's why Prometheus gave us fire.
• 46:18
  Speaker 8: You don't got the sun. You can get the fuck
• 46:19
  Speaker 8: out of here with this, My man.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Wold, I don't even know what to say.
• 46:31
  Speaker 8: If you go look at a gypsy and headdresses and
• 46:33
  Speaker 8: you look at the cones and rods and our eyeballs,
• 46:34
  Speaker 8: you're gonna see the same thing you were like, Yo. Fuck,
• 46:37
  Speaker 8: these motherfuckers are walking around with parts of their eyeballs
• 46:39
  Speaker 8: on the head.
• 46:41
  Speaker 6: How did they know that? They did?
• 46:45
  Speaker 8: They understood something. In my opinion, if you can practice magic,
• 46:47
  Speaker 8: you'll understand this stuff because it is one whole consciousness.
• 46:51
  Speaker 8: That's why these people are building pyramids all over the place,
• 46:53
  Speaker 8: because they're tapping into the same source through magic, and
• 46:55
  Speaker 8: they're getting the same ideas. It doesn't matter where you are,
• 46:58
  Speaker 8: who you are, you're tapping into the old consciousness of everything.
• 47:01
  Speaker 8: At some point you're gonna be pulling out the same
• 47:03
  Speaker 8: ideas as the next dude. Because it's all there.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Oh man, I've had that happen so many times.
• 47:12
  Speaker 8: Not even if that sound like silly or stupid, It's
• 47:15
  Speaker 8: very much like the matrix. And I'm one hundred I'm
• 47:17
  Speaker 8: being one hundred percent honest. And this is why sometimes
• 47:19
  Speaker 8: I will fuck with magic is because you will come
• 47:22
  Speaker 8: back and know stuff you did not know prior. You
• 47:24
  Speaker 8: will have ideas and you're like, where did I even
• 47:26
  Speaker 8: get that from? You'll you'll things that you didn't understand
• 47:29
  Speaker 8: well all of a sudden it make sense and you'll
• 47:30
  Speaker 8: see flashes like with your in front of yourself and
• 47:34
  Speaker 8: like showing you how this fall makes sense, and you're like,
• 47:36
  Speaker 8: what the fuck? Sometimes I'll do it for that reason
• 47:39
  Speaker 8: and that, but it gives me like passion to create
• 47:42
  Speaker 8: with my podcast. But I mean you you like Neil Oh,
• 47:47
  Speaker 8: I know kung Fu, You're not gonna come back, and
• 47:50
  Speaker 8: at least I don't think you'll come back and no
• 47:51
  Speaker 8: kung fu, but like you'll, you'll you'll know.
• 47:53
  Speaker 6: Other stuff and figure you you'll definitely be illuminated and
• 47:56
  Speaker 6: knowledgeable every time afterwards. That's been my experience and demand
• 48:05
  Speaker 6: what I try to get at too.
• 48:06
  Speaker 8: This is what I try to get at when you
• 48:07
  Speaker 8: have these meglomaniacs that are controlling the world, think like,
• 48:11
  Speaker 8: if you really think that you're pulling your own plug out,
• 48:14
  Speaker 8: you have to think of this. If these people are
• 48:16
  Speaker 8: okay with knowing and when they do this, they may
• 48:19
  Speaker 8: not even come back. If they're okay with putting their
• 48:23
  Speaker 8: own body here on earth at risk to get somewhere,
• 48:29
  Speaker 8: What the hell do they you think they think about us?
• 48:33
  Speaker 6: Nothing?
• 48:34
  Speaker 8: They have no problem knocking themselves off. How do they
• 48:36
  Speaker 8: don't give a shit about killing us? We're just disposable heroes,
• 48:40
  Speaker 8: We're commodities. That's why it's so easy for these people
• 48:45
  Speaker 8: to do six shit is because it's if you really
• 48:47
  Speaker 8: think about it, going by how we view this world
• 48:51
  Speaker 8: doing that, I'm pretty sure pibly to eighty percent of
• 48:54
  Speaker 8: your listeners are pibly like, this is crazy, But you
• 48:58
  Speaker 8: know what I'm saying. I mean, it really is kind of,
• 49:00
  Speaker 8: you know, in a sense, very suicide. And if you're
• 49:04
  Speaker 8: willing to do that kind of makes you a different
• 49:07
  Speaker 8: person the rest of the population.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: So they if they knew how to do this, then
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: they necessarily wouldn't care about the flesh, and they wouldn't
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: care about this and meets it that we uh that
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: everyone is.
• 49:22
  Speaker 8: Then sometimes they think some sick people will kill people
• 49:26
  Speaker 8: because they actually think they might be setting them free.
• 49:28
  Speaker 8: That that's not that's not how I view it. That's
• 49:31
  Speaker 8: that's me stepping my balance. But I could see some
• 49:34
  Speaker 8: people actually even thinking that I might be setting these
• 49:36
  Speaker 8: people free if I kill them and taking them out
• 49:38
  Speaker 8: of prison. If you have a magical experience and you
• 49:44
  Speaker 8: come back here, you're gonna wonder. You're really gonna question
• 49:47
  Speaker 8: where am I? First of all, because if that's a reality,
• 49:50
  Speaker 8: and that's it, that's an experience. But I'm stuck here, Yo,
• 49:56
  Speaker 8: what did I do wrong? Because this is grew it up?
• 50:01
  Speaker 8: I'm stuck here. You really have some questioning how far?
• 50:06
  Speaker 8: How far from hell?
• 50:07
  Speaker 6: Are we?
• 50:09
  Speaker 8: You jump and you fall down, man, I mean you're
• 50:11
  Speaker 8: already kind of grounded as far as you can fucking go.
• 50:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I felt when I had an out
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: of body experience. I had, well, a near death experience.
• 50:20
  Speaker 2: It wasn't out of body, it was a near death.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: I had to like fight to come back to this reality,
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: like with everything and over there felt way more real
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: than this reality felt, and there was nothing but peace, love, hope.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: But it was completely black. I didn't see anything. It
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: was just to avoid black void.
• 50:46
  Speaker 8: Sounds like you get close to having an experience where
• 50:49
  Speaker 8: it just doesn't click. Oh, it does feel like even
• 50:53
  Speaker 8: at the beginning, it's like you're in like a void
• 50:55
  Speaker 8: or nothingness and it almost feels like there's space. That
• 50:58
  Speaker 8: was even another thing, like somebody I know that it
• 51:00
  Speaker 8: so on my show. They've never talked about it on
• 51:02
  Speaker 8: the show, so I'm not going to say who, but
• 51:04
  Speaker 8: they have had very much some of these visuals and
• 51:07
  Speaker 8: even the same thing, even that white light, like it
• 51:10
  Speaker 8: literally looks like there's a distance within your vision and
• 51:12
  Speaker 8: inside your head as you're looking at it, that there's
• 51:14
  Speaker 8: almost like a blackness or a void in between everything.
• 51:18
  Speaker 8: It's really weird, and it does give kind of like
• 51:20
  Speaker 8: to me, like a presence or a feeling that I
• 51:23
  Speaker 8: could see sometimes maybe scare people, but I guess it
• 51:26
  Speaker 8: didn't scare me enough, and I just let let the
• 51:28
  Speaker 8: scene keep going.
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like the most it was like, uh,
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: like the weight of the world just lifted up off
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: of your shoulder. It was almost like that nothingness or
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: that emptiness of feeling that you were talking about earlier.
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: This was kind of what it felt like. It was
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: just like nothing, but it was full of peace and
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: like love and hope.
• 51:54
  Speaker 8: It was just this immense feeling that I've never unfortunately
• 51:56
  Speaker 8: can never experience here. That's so far, but you know,
• 52:02
  Speaker 8: and then again, like what I was saying is that
• 52:04
  Speaker 8: I will come back with that experience, and to me,
• 52:09
  Speaker 8: I feel like, you know, I guess I you know,
• 52:10
  Speaker 8: I believe that I had an experience with God or
• 52:12
  Speaker 8: you know, consciousness, you know, the all, and I come
• 52:15
  Speaker 8: back and again now I understand things, I know things.
• 52:19
  Speaker 8: My opinion. One of the reasons why I started my
• 52:21
  Speaker 8: podcast is that if I didn't create or start doing something,
• 52:25
  Speaker 8: I think I probably would have lost my mind. It's
• 52:27
  Speaker 8: like I almost have to start doing something and creating
• 52:30
  Speaker 8: something to me either stop wanting to do it again
• 52:34
  Speaker 8: or just thinking about shit and trying to figure out
• 52:36
  Speaker 8: what happened. You know, I started doing my podcast and
• 52:39
  Speaker 8: when I when I use this stuff, I will in
• 52:43
  Speaker 8: my opinion, I'm having an experience with God and I
• 52:47
  Speaker 8: have to either try to express that in some sort
• 52:51
  Speaker 8: of art and try to help other people go to
• 52:55
  Speaker 8: their own experience, or you can choose the other road
• 53:00
  Speaker 8: and use these this knowledge that you come across to
• 53:04
  Speaker 8: mentally manipulate people, you know, and and become rich or
• 53:10
  Speaker 8: you know, you put out art that's like so occult,
• 53:12
  Speaker 8: but don't make it so obvious, and you become rich
• 53:14
  Speaker 8: because it just hypnotizes people, you know, or it's part
• 53:17
  Speaker 8: of a sy Oh. But like I do believe like
• 53:19
  Speaker 8: after that experience, just for me, this is why I
• 53:22
  Speaker 8: do think like you're really going to be judged then,
• 53:25
  Speaker 8: is because God just gave you a gift and you
• 53:27
  Speaker 8: decided to manipulate people instead of being like, yo, this
• 53:31
  Speaker 8: was my experience. It was beautiful. You can have it too.
• 53:35
  Speaker 8: You're just gonna have to put in some work.
• 53:37
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 53:37
  Speaker 8: There's freedom, you know, And I definitely that's why I
• 53:41
  Speaker 8: think like there's those two roads to take after you've
• 53:44
  Speaker 8: had that experience, and it's it's really it could be
• 53:47
  Speaker 8: a really hard.
• 53:48
  Speaker 6: Fine line to balance.
• 53:53
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, I'm not wild choose you know what I'm saying,
• 53:55
  Speaker 8: to choose the right thing, I can understand that.
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a part of like free will,
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: the free will choice and if there is some kind
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: of judgment, I think that it's like you're saying, it's
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: like a it's a self judgment. You judge yourself, Like,
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: I don't think that, you know, an all knowing creator
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: that created everything is going to be the one judging you.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: You're going to see all the things that you did
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: and then you're going to judge yourself and then make
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: your next decision based off of what you just seen.
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 54:28
  Speaker 8: That is another thing too, Yeah, I mean it's hard
• 54:31
  Speaker 8: to get into, but yeah, there's certain things that I
• 54:34
  Speaker 8: don't think, Like, I mean, if you go buy religions,
• 54:37
  Speaker 8: the motherfuckers are afraid to die.
• 54:40
  Speaker 6: So I mean that's just like another you know.
• 54:42
  Speaker 8: I mean, so I guess what I'm trying to get
• 54:44
  Speaker 8: at is like maybe there is certain religious ideologies I
• 54:47
  Speaker 8: don't even buy into anyways, thinking that God is judging you.
• 54:52
  Speaker 8: I think, like I've done some really shitty things my
• 54:56
  Speaker 8: whole life. I mean, I'm a better person now the
• 54:58
  Speaker 8: last fifteen years, and I've been you know, prior to that.
• 55:00
  Speaker 8: But you know, you'd probably think, oh I do it,
• 55:03
  Speaker 8: ain't got a shot of getting in. But then I
• 55:05
  Speaker 8: have an experience like this, so any person can work
• 55:09
  Speaker 8: on themselves. And having that experience, I believe if I can,
• 55:13
  Speaker 8: anybody can.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just really interesting how like you were mentioning
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: earlier about that it has to do with the eye,
• 55:20
  Speaker 2: and a lot of people think that it has to
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: do with the ass, and like how all of this
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: stuff has really been inverted. I mean, that would be
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: what would be considered like not doing the right thing right.
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: That would be telling people the wrong way to do something,
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: So therefore you would you would be doing like the
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: wrong thing. I was talking with one on my show
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: the other day. I was like, you know, I think
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: that these people they literally just exclude certain factors from
• 55:54
  Speaker 2: like the recipe, Like they'll just exclude a few things,
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: and they do that on purpose, so that people really
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: can't get the knowledge or really can't put something into
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: practice because they don't have all the ingredients. I mean,
• 56:07
  Speaker 2: I'm using a medical here.
• 56:09
  Speaker 8: That I think is huge, And this is something a
• 56:13
  Speaker 8: lot of Crowley stuff, and I do think other people's stuff,
• 56:16
  Speaker 8: and I hate to say it, and I'm not saying
• 56:17
  Speaker 8: it so I can pat myself on the back and
• 56:19
  Speaker 8: say I understand it, because I'm not even gonna say,
• 56:22
  Speaker 8: you know, you know, I understand all that stuff. But
• 56:27
  Speaker 8: some of it I do believe, especially all the people
• 56:29
  Speaker 8: that have looked at from the fifteen and sixteen hundreds,
• 56:32
  Speaker 8: Michael Meyer, Robert Flood, a couple of other people, Anthony AG's, Kertscher,
• 56:38
  Speaker 8: other people, Kunroth, Heinrik Koumroth. You had to have had
• 56:41
  Speaker 8: a magical experience to then even understand what they're saying,
• 56:45
  Speaker 8: Like you had to see all that stuff and feel
• 56:47
  Speaker 8: all that stuff and have that experience so then you
• 56:49
  Speaker 8: could even see it being recreated in the artwork itself too.
• 56:54
  Speaker 8: It's hard to explain, but like unfortunately there's some people
• 56:57
  Speaker 8: that I don't that put out work cultist that will
• 57:01
  Speaker 8: only be understood unless you actually have had a magical
• 57:05
  Speaker 8: experience like I was describing, it won't make sense. I
• 57:08
  Speaker 8: even think Taro is to that extent. Taro I think
• 57:11
  Speaker 8: has parts of that experience and even physiology in it
• 57:15
  Speaker 8: as well. I do think the Golden down Deck and
• 57:18
  Speaker 8: Alistair Crowley's Toth Deck shows a lot of eyeball symbolism
• 57:21
  Speaker 8: in it, believe it or not.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I mean you look at you know,
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: as wide shot whenever Tom Cruise's character gets called to
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: the main room and they ask him what the password is, Yeah,
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: I know, and he was like it's blah blah blah.
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: And he was like, well, the real password is that
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: there is no password, And he would have only have
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: known that if he was a part of the crew.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: But he wasn't a part of the crew. He was
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: an outsider.
• 57:50
  Speaker 8: Yeah, because his boy Nightingale, I think I had him
• 57:52
  Speaker 8: go right or some shit. I forgot how the how
• 57:54
  Speaker 8: he got there. You know, that's even like in the Shining,
• 57:58
  Speaker 8: Remember how I was talking about the eyeball and the
• 58:01
  Speaker 8: blood part and the water part.
• 58:03
  Speaker 6: You have those two girls by the elevator.
• 58:04
  Speaker 8: Those elevators open up and the blood spills out those Again,
• 58:07
  Speaker 8: you have the two you have the hylloid canals right there,
• 58:10
  Speaker 8: and then you have the blood that's in the back
• 58:11
  Speaker 8: party your eyeball and your your optic nerve does kind
• 58:15
  Speaker 8: of like look like a tent or like a door
• 58:17
  Speaker 8: in a sense. It's hard to explain, but in my opinion,
• 58:20
  Speaker 8: I think those two children are actually showing you the
• 58:22
  Speaker 8: hyloid canal and the blood that's filling into the back
• 58:25
  Speaker 8: party your eye. That's a lot of talk, believe it
• 58:28
  Speaker 8: or not. They will say like the cup of blood
• 58:30
  Speaker 8: or the blood sacrifice. I know it's not as juicy
• 58:33
  Speaker 8: as you like it to be. But that's talking about
• 58:34
  Speaker 8: the back of your eyeball.
• 58:37
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: And also the eleven symbolism, like the two girls represent
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: the eleven.
• 58:43
  Speaker 8: Again yeah, two straight hylloid canals possibly, yeah, but yeah,
• 58:49
  Speaker 8: I do think he does have eyeball symbolism Stanley Kubrick
• 58:52
  Speaker 8: and a lot of his stuff, even the shining, I
• 58:55
  Speaker 8: think yeah. Again, even when he's talking to the kid
• 58:58
  Speaker 8: about the glow, think he's talking about certain certain magical stuff.
• 59:04
  Speaker 6: Oh no, what he said, you have that shine?
• 59:06
  Speaker 8: Yeah, because I've even heard I've had heard other like
• 59:10
  Speaker 8: I've heard other occultists and even myself. It does feel
• 59:14
  Speaker 8: like like you're like an overcharged battery after the fact,
• 59:18
  Speaker 8: and it just seems weird, Like people say that like
• 59:22
  Speaker 8: you kind of give off a shine and like neither
• 59:24
  Speaker 8: animals can notice it or other people who fuck with
• 59:28
  Speaker 8: magic can notice it. And I think that's what Stanley
• 59:31
  Speaker 8: Kruber was talking about in the shining to the child.
• 59:33
  Speaker 8: That's why I think the child would have those weird
• 59:35
  Speaker 8: visions is because he was basically almost you know, practicing
• 59:37
  Speaker 8: magic already.
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: What's a like a telltale sign that somebody doesn't know
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: what they're talking about when it comes to magic or
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: being an occultist.
• 59:55
  Speaker 6: Well, just put me in a screwed up position here.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 6: Oh it's all right.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 8: Well, first of all, in my opinion, if you're using
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 8: magic to try to obtain things in this physical reality,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 8: you're fucking it all up. That's black magic. You're just
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 8: manipulating this shit reality. We shouldn't even be trying to
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 8: entertain that much to bend all the motherfuckers to your
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 8: will to get what you want. That's just my opinion.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 8: So I think all that shit is pretty much black magic,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 8: as they would call it.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 6: My opinion.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 8: If this is just me, and it's not to be
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 8: cocky about myself, but if the person isn't telling you
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 8: that death is a part of magic, I mean even
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 8: the Shamans are telling you that shit and they're not
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 8: going into it. I mean, I hate to say too
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 8: about the eyeballs and stuff. I would just question either
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 8: they've ever had that experience, so then they really don't
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 8: know what magic is. Well, they do know it not
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 8: telling anybody for a reason and playing you know, stupid.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 8: But like that's just my opinion that you know, unless
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 8: you've had a magical experience, you're missing at least one
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 8: or two parts of understanding everything or more.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 8: Again, I'm not saying I know everything, but if you
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 8: are missing that aspect, there was a huge part of
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 8: magic that you not understand. Still, that's just my opinion,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 8: you know, it's just it just it's like being a
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 8: pickle to a cucumber to a pickle. After you have
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 8: this magical experience, the way you think, the way you're wired,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 8: the way you've looked at everything is going to completely
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 8: change because now you have visions and you have physical
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 8: feelings that you can see being reduplicated in art to
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 8: explain the whole experience. It's hard to explain, but you'll
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 8: just start seeing so much of it after a magical
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 8: experience You'll be like, oh my god, you know, and
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 8: it's just completely different. It's completely different. I hate you.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: Know what I mean though, Like people that you know Instagram,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: people claiming to be witches.
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 6: And oh a lot of that, you know, you know
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 6: what I mean.
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: Like people I'm a witch or you know how many
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 2: people that have ex girlfriends that have claimed that they
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: were witches? You know what I mean?
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 8: Like stuff Again, Like I was saying, like I mean,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 8: it can it can listen.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 6: I mean, I guess you.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 8: Don't want to get into herbs and crystals and incense. Yeah,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 8: you know, I'm sure that stuff can help your well being,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 8: but I mean a lot of certain stuff to me
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 8: is just a lot of it's a lot of woo woo.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, even put it this way, Wicka Gerald
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 8: Gardner was cool with Alista Crowley. He was even given
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 8: permission to even open up an Oteo Lodge if he
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 8: wanted to, and he decided to go with Wicker. I mean,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 8: it's probably very ciphered or it's just being sold to
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 8: people to make a book, but it's not, in my opinion,
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 8: it's not being flat out and telling you what magic
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 8: really is. I mean, I'm sure the stuff that I
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 8: just said on this show, you're not going to find
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 8: any Scott Cunningham or well those other guys that were
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 8: known in the Wicked community. They're not gonna be telling
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 8: you this shit flat out. Why not because they are
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 8: worried about selling books and making money. They probably had
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 8: those experiences, but they understand that, like you know.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 6: This stuff took off.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 8: Somebody made a bullshit sigh up and people brought into it,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 8: and I'm gonna ride that wave. That's again what I'm
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 8: saying is that, you know, you have people that either
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 8: do good things with magic or they take advantage of people.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: I think that it's that way with with everything. It's
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: that way with conspiracy community, it's that way with the ufology.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: You know, it's it's the same with all of it.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: There's people there, and when they're going to take advantage
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: of other people and do things in a way that
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: is not in everyone's best interest. I mean that's it's
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: a common thing with human being, which is wild. I
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: don't think that that's the way that it's supposed to
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: be about. For some reason, it is. Yeah, you know,
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: like how much can how much nonsense can I pump
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: out to people to make it seem a lot more
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: interesting instead of telling them the truth? What the truth
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: is never as as fascinating and as interesting as lies
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: and made up garbage.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, Yeah, that was a good point. Trying to
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 6: see if I can find a picture. I think it
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 6: might take me too long.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 8: I had like an awesome picture where it like really
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 8: showed you like this painting and then the eyeball and
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 8: it's like you can't even.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 6: Like the night, but it might take me too long
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 6: to find it.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 8: Sorry, was there any other questions or anything that you
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 8: wanted to do was specifically asked about?
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: Like, I'm just trying to rent the trying here to
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: see if we're got any any good questions. Not. I
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 2: think we cover We covered pretty much everything that I
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: need to know. I'm still mind blown by the fact
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: that you've related the eye to like everything, and how
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: the eye symbolism isn't really what people think that it is.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: That's that's wild. It's about vision, it's about it's about
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: seeing the real reality, and it doesn't have anything That
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean that it's evil because a lot of people
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: think that all this stuff is like super evil and
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: the all seen eye as like some kind of evil thing,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And I've never believed that,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: and I didn't know why that I didn't believe that,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: but you just you laid it out amazing.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 8: Even when I said that the black discs moves up
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 8: and away from the white one, even that almost looks
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 8: like an eye will opening up in a sense, like
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 8: it's so weird, like because of the way that it's moving.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 8: But yeah, I mean in my opinion, a lot of it. Again,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 8: I won't to tell people. If you're going to look
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 8: into the eyeball, look especially into the you know, the pupil,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 8: the scalare of the optic nerve and the aniles is in.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 8: That's kind of you know, a lot of the major
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 8: symbolism you'll see, I think.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and being baptized in the water. It just is
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: the water of your eye. That's wild. That's wild, dude.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean when you think.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: About it, when you cry, when.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 6: You're you know you're or you're.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: In fear, you're crying from happiness or something like that,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: water is coming out.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 6: Of your eyes. So yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 8: And then yeah, then behind the riserrata where you get
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 8: the hyloid canal and the virtuous nerves, you have the
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 8: virtuous humor and that has blood in it. And then
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 8: if I remember correctly, that actually travels all the way
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 8: back in a female will go all the way I think,
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 8: from the from the back of their eye all the
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 8: way down to their womb. Even in Alison Crowley and
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 8: one of his rituals, he grabs his nipple. You're supposed
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 8: to grab your nipple during the Knox Thenox formula. And
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 8: that's you know risis and believe it or not, when
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 8: a baby is nursing off of a mother, the mother's
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 8: pinal glen is actually doing stuff and sending stuff out
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 8: through the milk and then priming the child's pineal glane
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 8: to understand the seasons. It's sleep, habits and all this stuff.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 8: So even in that damn ritual, he's still even showing
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 8: you right there stuff with the pineal glen.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, you say, twist the nipple. It makes me
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: think of Jeffrey Epstein. That's that's what he wanted a
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: lot of the girls to do, is we just grab
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: him by the nipples and twist as.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 8: Hard as he could, stimulating the nipple. There's nerves that
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 8: will go up to your pineal glene.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: Good old nipple nerve. It'll do it every time.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 6: It gets you every time, I mean, with that nipple nerve.
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 6: Oh that was good man, It was good, all right, brother?
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: There's anything else that you wanted to talk to recover
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: everything that you wanted to say? Did you have anything
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: else that you would like to mention that you probably
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: maybe didn't mention before we wrap it up?
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 6: No?
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 8: No, again, just like I really do like highly suggest
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 8: for people to like really start looking into old alchemists
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 8: in like the fifteen or sixteen hundred, start looking at
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 8: the eyeball, you know, still looking at some parts of
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 8: the brain too. The thing from Aliens is basically all
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 8: different parts of the eye in the brain. If you
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 8: start looking at hr Geiger was in ocultist. He was,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 8: you know, he's into the lima too, in my opinion.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 8: You know, so he's even showing you that stuff in
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 8: his movies, you know, in his art that's in those
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 8: alien movies. Definitely look into the eyes in the brain. Please,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 8: I'm begging people because if you start even learning how
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 8: that's how it works, you'll have like a you'll have
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 8: a just start seeing stuff. I think it's just in
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 8: my opinion, just please look into that stuff.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: And where can people find you if they would like
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: to research or look more into your show, or you
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: have a website or you have a twelve Do you
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: have a twelve step magic guy?
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 6: No?
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 8: Maybe the could research Institute dot org. That is really
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 8: a bunch of other people and myself. It's nobody's like
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 8: really telling you how to practice anything on there. A
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 8: lot of it is basically like blogs like people's experience
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 8: things that people. We have one guy on there who
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 8: messages with orgone and actually has scientific published papers. He's
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 8: on there talking about orgone experiences. Some people are on
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 8: there talking about Ja Matria. The Occult rejex is on there.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 8: There's there's a list of old people like saints and
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 8: you know, you know occultists that all in our opinion,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 8: you know, we're a cultist or open occultists have had
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 8: experiences with God and understood. We have stuff on them there.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 8: A lot of it basically came off the Occult Rejects podcast. Anyway,
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 8: We covered the people, but there's also a lot of
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 8: grimoires on there and a lot of old books that
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 8: aren't really showing you rituals, it's my opinion, showing you
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 8: stuff in the eye, in the body, in the art.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 8: We have that on the website. And then we have
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 8: the podcast The Occult Rejects an all major podcasts and
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 8: Bitch You Rumble and YouTube.
• 1:10:35
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