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Looking for Things · Boozy Banter with Friends

• 0:18
  Leyla Zmeskal: Hello and welcome to boozy banter,
• 0:20
  Diane Black: With friends.
• 0:21
  Leyla Zmeskal: I'm Leyla.
• 0:22
  Trisha Smith: I'm Trisha.
• 0:23
  Diane Black: I'm Diane.
• 0:24
  Leyla Zmeskal: Grab your favorite spirit and join us because shits about to get real Hello.
• 0:38
  Trisha Smith: Hi. Just the two of us today.
• 0:42
  Leyla Zmeskal: I know, I know.
• 0:44
  Trisha Smith: Diane unfortunately has to work.
• 0:47
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah.
• 0:48
  Trisha Smith: So,
• 0:49
  Leyla Zmeskal: She's the worker in our group.
• 0:50
  Trisha Smith: I know damn day jobs.
• 0:52
  Leyla Zmeskal: Worker bee. But some things don't change,
• 0:59
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 1:00
  Leyla Zmeskal: We're still,
• 1:01
  Trisha Smith: Day drinking,
• 1:02
  Leyla Zmeskal: Day drinking.
• 1:03
  Trisha Smith: On this nice hot fall day.
• 1:09
  Leyla Zmeskal: For the Florida usual.
• 1:10
  Trisha Smith: It's like the first week of October. What is it? What's today this day? I don't know. It's the first week,
• 1:17
  Leyla Zmeskal: And that's probably true statement.
• 1:18
  Leyla Zmeskal: second week of October and it is so freakin hot. I hate Florida fall. I see pictures of leaves changing. I'm like, yeah, only when they're dead and they've scorched in the sun. It's about the only way we get fall leaves around here.
• 1:37
  Trisha Smith: Pine needles...fall.
• 1:39
  Leyla Zmeskal: All the time, pine cones.
• 1:41
  Trisha Smith: Fall.
• 1:42
  Leyla Zmeskal: Year round.
• 1:44
  Trisha Smith: We're just gonna pretend it only happens in fall so feels like it's fall.
• 1:48
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah,
• 1:48
  Trisha Smith: Till it's December.
• 1:50
  Leyla Zmeskal: And then it's still not really. We're still walking around in shorts and a T shirt.
• 1:55
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 1:56
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah. Instead of shorts and a tank top.
• 1:58
  Trisha Smith: Everybody has such cute clothes during fall, except for us, i'm still wearing pastels because everything's shorts and tank tops.
• 2:07
  Leyla Zmeskal: I am wearing a tank top right now.
• 2:09
  Trisha Smith: Yes. In your traditional black
• 2:12
  Leyla Zmeskal: As per my usual signature color. But I am having today. I'm having a pumpkin beer.
• 2:22
  Trisha Smith: See I do have fall on the brain.
• 2:25
  Leyla Zmeskal: I'm kind of doing a little representing.
• 2:27
  Trisha Smith: Yeah,
• 2:28
  Leyla Zmeskal: I'm having a nice Voodoo Ranger Atomic Pumpkin beer.
• 2:32
  Trisha Smith: Nice.
• 2:33
  Leyla Zmeskal: Pretty good.
• 2:34
  Trisha Smith: Yeah,
• 2:34
  Leyla Zmeskal: It's not my favorite pumpkin beer.
• 2:37
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 2:37
  Leyla Zmeskal: It's not bad. I like the little like the little spice that this one has to it.
• 2:39
  Leyla Zmeskal: My favorite one is the Southern Tier, Pumpking.
• 2:44
  Trisha Smith: Ooh. Have I had that one? I don't know. I love pumpkin beer. I'm not a big pumpkin. Like I don't do pumpkin spice. I think that's it makes me want to vomit when I smell it.
• 2:58
  Leyla Zmeskal: It's PSL time.
• 2:59
  Trisha Smith: There's something about the combination. Well anyways, coffee just makes me want to vomit right now. But combination of pumpkin and coffee has to be the most disgusting smell to me, ever.
• 3:13
  Leyla Zmeskal: That's horrible.
• 3:14
  Trisha Smith: It is what it is at this point, stupid COVID, jacking up my,
• 3:19
  Leyla Zmeskal: Damn.
• 3:20
  Trisha Smith: You know, senses.
• 3:20
  Trisha Smith: I can't taste anything. I can't smell, I had COVID in January.
• 3:26
  Leyla Zmeskal: It seems like it's coming back now as far as like it's starting. It's coming back as far as like it's affecting your your taste buds now. Yeah, I didn't have that before.
• 3:37
  Trisha Smith: I didn't it took a while.
• 3:39
  Leyla Zmeskal: But you always had that weird smelly thing now.
• 3:41
  Trisha Smith: I did. Yeah, yeah, everything smells weird. First it was everything was on fire.
• 3:45
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah,
• 3:46
  Trisha Smith: You know, I wake up in the middle of the night.
• 3:47
  Trisha Smith: I'm like something's on fire.
• 3:47
  Trisha Smith: And I live in a log cabin.
• 3:51
  Leyla Zmeskal: In the woods.
• 3:53
  Trisha Smith: Yeah. So it is on fire. It's not it's just my smell.
• 3:58
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah, so I think that kind of like, morphed indeed. Like it. It's attacked your taste buds.
• 4:03
  Trisha Smith: Yeah. Yeah.
• 4:05
  Leyla Zmeskal: You got some funky shit going.
• 4:06
  Trisha Smith: I know. I know.
• 4:06
  Trisha Smith: It's the worst. So But yeah, I do love pumpkin beer that and it doesn't smell like pumpkin. Or maybe it does and I just can't smell it.
• 4:16
  Leyla Zmeskal: Hold on, let me smell it. No, that's kind of got like a subtle little.
• 4:21
  Trisha Smith: Even pre COVID though. Pumpkin mixed with coffee. The smell is like just really?
• 4:28
  Leyla Zmeskal: You know what you could do? You could take like, nice, spicy like a pumpkin like a good quality pumpkin beer. And you rim it with cinnamon sugar, glass orna brown sugar. cinnamon glass. I tell you what, it's good. You can even like drizzle honey around it so that way the cinnamon and sugar sticks a little better.
• 4:49
  Trisha Smith: That sounds good.
• 4:50
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah, it's like pumpkin and pumpkin pie in a glass.
• 4:53
  Trisha Smith: Now pumpkin pies.
• 4:53
  Trisha Smith: Smells delicious. So yeah, I gotta get my smellers under control.
• 4:59
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah.
• 4:59
  Trisha Smith: So, I am having chai tea, but I add a little coffee, vanilla coffee creamer to it. Which is tasty on its own. I have that for breakfast, but we're day drinking.
• 5:12
  Leyla Zmeskal: Of course we are.
• 5:13
  Trisha Smith: So I through in some Smoked Maple Whiskey.
• 5:17
  Leyla Zmeskal: Hell yeah,
• 5:18
  Trisha Smith: Oh my god it's so good, can start my day with this. I'm not even joking.
• 5:23
  Leyla Zmeskal: Really.
• 5:25
  Trisha Smith: I be drunk all day, but I would. Yeah, it's like.
• 5:29
  Leyla Zmeskal: Your face is like, you will not believe how good it is. Like that's your face.
• 5:35
  Trisha Smith: I really, I was doubtful because my daughter suggested it. She's like, because I said I want something to fall-y.
• 5:42
  Leyla Zmeskal: Because she's not a drinker.
• 5:43
  Trisha Smith: Right, Right,
• 5:44
  Leyla Zmeskal: And not that you doubted her.
• 5:46
  Trisha Smith: I tottaly her we doubted her.
• 5:48
  Leyla Zmeskal: I'm trying to make it sound better.
• 5:50
  Trisha Smith: I doubted her for sure. But hey, she had a good idea. I guess she was just thinking, you know what goes with Chai Tea? Maple Whiskey.
• 6:02
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah,
• 6:03
  Trisha Smith: Yeah.
• 6:03
  Leyla Zmeskal: I like Chai?
• 6:04
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, it's good stuff.
• 6:06
  Leyla Zmeskal: I like whiskey.
• 6:06
  Trisha Smith: Yeah,
• 6:07
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah.
• 6:07
  Trisha Smith: Put them together.
• 6:10
  Leyla Zmeskal: Winner winner.
• 6:10
  Leyla Zmeskal: I'm not going to say chicken dinner because that's no, that's a no for you right now.
• 6:17
  Trisha Smith: Oh my god, and everybody wants to eat chicken.
• 6:21
  Trisha Smith: But me I'm like, huh? No. So anyhow, So what you watch and lately?
• 6:29
  Leyla Zmeskal: I am watching a and I told you about this and I didn't tell you at all about the show. Uh huh. Because I wanted you to discover it yourself, I'm watching, Only Murders In The building.
• 6:40
  Trisha Smith: My God it's so good.
• 6:41
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh my god.
• 6:43
  Trisha Smith: We're all caught up. Are you all caught up?
• 6:45
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh, absolutely.
• 6:45
  Trisha Smith: Yeah,
• 6:46
  Leyla Zmeskal: Absolutely. I watched the other night's episode. Yeah, I'll tell you what. From the first like, time I start I was like, Oh, this is funny and then all of a sudden they said one line and like, Bhaaaa. Then I was sucked in.
• 7:03
  Leyla Zmeskal: You know, it's it's hilarious.
• 7:05
  Trisha Smith: Yeah,
• 7:05
  Leyla Zmeskal: It is, funny, well written.
• 7:09
  Trisha Smith: Yeah.
• 7:10
  Leyla Zmeskal: Relatable.
• 7:11
  Trisha Smith: Right. Right. I'm really enjoying it. I really,
• 7:16
  Leyla Zmeskal: So clever.
• 7:17
  Trisha Smith: Yeah. So I've never wanted somebody to be murdered so badly on my street.
• 7:21
  Trisha Smith: I want to find clues, I'm joking. Please don't murder anybody on our street.
• 7:32
  Leyla Zmeskal: Put it on our podcast.
• 7:35
  Trisha Smith: Only if they come back to haunt us. Which they would you said you wanted a murder now,
• 7:41
  Leyla Zmeskal: This is for your podcast. Like everything is for the podcast.
• 7:46
  Trisha Smith: Oh, the sacrifices people make for us.
• 7:49
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh my God, when I it's so funny. I wanted you to discover that little fun nugget by yourself because I laughed so hard.
• 7:58
  Trisha Smith: Yeah.
• 7:58
  Leyla Zmeskal: Like I was like, Oh, this I'm hooked now.
• 8:02
  Unknown: I know. And then I was out of town when it when you told me about it. So I made my girlfriend watch it with me, and so we watched the first three or four episodes together. And then when I was at the airport, I called my husband I said, you need to watch the first four episodes cuz when I get home, we're gonna watch the next one or two together and then every week we've been watching it together since then, because I'm hooked. It's good show. And they they're gonna be back for season two.
• 8:29
  Leyla Zmeskal: Excellent.
• 8:30
  Trisha Smith: Yeah,
• 8:30
  Leyla Zmeskal: Excellent.
• 8:31
  Trisha Smith: Yeah.
• 8:31
  Leyla Zmeskal: And the little twist that happened on this last episode.
• 8:35
  Trisha Smith: Yeah.
• 8:35
  Leyla Zmeskal: Is you know his girlfriend was under shot and I'm like, ooh, she got that spooky note. I don't know. I think she might be on to something about the guy with the cat though.
• 8:45
  Trisha Smith: Maybe?
• 8:47
  Leyla Zmeskal: I mean, because all of a sudden, like, what's with the letters?
• 8:49
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 8:49
  Leyla Zmeskal: Like I'm watching you.
• 8:51
  Trisha Smith: Yeah.
• 8:51
  Leyla Zmeskal: Like he's a creepy reclusive guy that kept this cat in a freezer. And he's got cat pictures of the cat. No offense Diane, love you.
• 9:07
  Trisha Smith: She doesn't have any family on her Instagram any more.
• 9:10
  Leyla Zmeskal: It's all Sammi with an I.
• 9:12
  Trisha Smith: It's sometimes Maggie, so funny.
• 9:16
  Leyla Zmeskal: Could be that guy.
• 9:17
  Trisha Smith: Could be. So if you don't know what we're talking about. That means you're not watching this and you should be so go do it.
• 9:25
  Leyla Zmeskal: Only murders in the building. It's on Hulu.
• 9:27
  Trisha Smith: Yep, it's so good.
• 9:27
  Trisha Smith: And we're not even getting paid for this. It's just so good.
• 9:32
  Leyla Zmeskal: Just what we're watching.
• 9:33
  Trisha Smith: Yeah.
• 9:34
  Leyla Zmeskal: So talk about now.
• 9:37
  Trisha Smith: So today I think you've just a couple little short stories just the two of us.
• 9:42
  Leyla Zmeskal: I have something today that you know, since the spooky season. I thought about nightmares. You know, everybody's got nightmares.
• 9:51
  Trisha Smith: I know.
• 9:52
  Leyla Zmeskal: I don't have them very often, but and when I do I never remember my dreams.
• 9:57
  Trisha Smith: Yeah,
• 9:57
  Leyla Zmeskal: Do you remember your dreams a lot?
• 9:59
  Trisha Smith: Um, No.
• 10:00
  Leyla Zmeskal: Do you write your dreams down?
• 10:02
  Trisha Smith: I do now.
• 10:05
  Leyla Zmeskal: I still don't write my dreams down. But I should because some of them, I remember like briefly and then I don't remember, I've had like two memorable nightmares that I remember. And you know, since it's spooky season, I thought that I talked about nightmares and the common ones and you know, maybe some of them what they mean,
• 10:27
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 10:29
  Leyla Zmeskal: So did you know that every night when we sleep we can create about five plus ish dream episodes?
• 10:37
  Trisha Smith: I,
• 10:38
  Leyla Zmeskal: Did you know that?
• 10:39
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, I mean no, I didn't know there was a numb r attached to it but I know I wa e up feeling like I dreamed abo t multiple things.
• 10:47
  Leyla Zmeskal: Really?
• 10:48
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, definitely.
• 10:48
  Trisha Smith: Probably because I wake up multiple times throughout the night. And if I'm having a really good dream, I try to hang on to it, but tends to morph into something else.
• 11:00
  Leyla Zmeskal: So like, each one of these dream episodes can last anywhere from 15 to 40 minutes, which kind of makes sense.
• 11:09
  Trisha Smith: Yeah.
• 11:11
  Leyla Zmeskal: And some believe our dream patterns reflect actually, who we are, and what we really need and what we believe. And, you know, some people do say that all of these dreams mirror fundamental patterns of human behavior.
• 11:26
  Trisha Smith: Oh, okay. So.
• 11:29
  Leyla Zmeskal: So what about nightmares?
• 11:31
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, I mean, I feel like my nightmares if, when I if I feel like I've had what I would consider a nightmare. It's anxiety driven.
• 11:39
  Leyla Zmeskal: And that's what they say nightmares are like that is one of the triggers of anxiety, of nightmares is anxiety.
• 11:46
  Trisha Smith: Oh, okay. See, I didn't know that.
• 11:48
  Leyla Zmeskal: And nightmares are so common, like 50 to 85% of adults experience them occasionally. And it typically happens in the later stages of REM sleep, REM sleep, and can be triggered by stress, anxiety, or even past trauma.
• 12:03
  Trisha Smith: Oh, wow. Hmm.
• 12:05
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah. So however, there can be other causes, like medications and supplements, big meals before bed, and sleep apnea can actually trigger really nightmare.
• 12:17
  Trisha Smith: Well, yeah. Does it feel like you're suffocating?
• 12:20
  Leyla Zmeskal: Well actually that is what is said, it said that people that feel like they're suffocating and have that sleep paralysis where they feel like there's a demon sitting on their chest like, that could be sleep apnea.
• 12:32
  Trisha Smith: Oh my God, I've never thank God I don't have that.
• 12:36
  Leyla Zmeskal: You see some of these shows where, you know, like, I felt like there was something on my chest and I couldn't breathe.
• 12:43
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 12:44
  Leyla Zmeskal: They may have sleep apnea.
• 12:46
  Trisha Smith: Oh, okay. explains all the things.
• 12:50
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah, never know.
• 12:50
  Leyla Zmeskal: So what's the difference between a nightmare and a bad dream or even night terrors?
• 12:56
  Trisha Smith: Oh, what is the difference?
• 12:58
  Leyla Zmeskal: Well, the main difference between a nightmare and bad dreams is that a nightmare wakes you up from sleep. Like bad dreams don't but a nightmare will. I didn't know this. But there's three types of nightmares.
• 13:10
  Trisha Smith: Okay,
• 13:12
  Leyla Zmeskal: Reoccurring nightmares. So dreams that you had over and over again over a long period of time. Those are called the commonly believed to be caused by some sort of unresolved conflict or repressed wishes.
• 13:27
  Trisha Smith: Oh.
• 13:29
  Leyla Zmeskal: So if you have something going on that you haven't fucking dealt with
• 13:32
  Trisha Smith: You better start analyzing those dreams.
• 13:34
  Leyla Zmeskal: Better better start writing your shit down.
• 13:37
  Leyla Zmeskal: Especially if you're having reoccurring nightmares.
• 13:39
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 13:40
  Leyla Zmeskal: Fever dreams, so dreams that can be caused due to the high intense like body temperatures like really high body temperatures.
• 13:48
  Trisha Smith: Okay.
• 13:49
  Leyla Zmeskal: Make sense? To me when I read that I was like, Oh yeah, that makes sense.
• 13:53
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 13:53
  Leyla Zmeskal: Like because if you're really having a super high fever, you know and you're dreaming and you're sweating, like you're uncomfortable and all things are kind of wacky to begin with, I get that. And the last one is vivid dreams. Most people forget 95% of their dreams as soon as they wake up.
• 14:10
  Leyla Zmeskal: Vivid dreams or nightmares tend to have a more lasting impact.
• 14:15
  Leyla Zmeskal: Vivid dreams are also characterized by extreme emotion and you meet and you may even feel present in your dream like I had like this dream just last week, this like two weeks ago.
• 14:30
  Leyla Zmeskal: Where I actually, you have you ever felt like where you're trying to call out and like you can't like you're trying to and you just can't. I literally woke myself up because I was calling out.
• 14:41
  Trisha Smith: Did it feel like you're being smothered?
• 14:43
  Leyla Zmeskal: No, wbut it felt like I was like I was saying get out.
• 14:47
  Trisha Smith: Oh.
• 14:48
  Leyla Zmeskal: Like it was the weirdest dream. Talking about dreams. It was the weirdest dream because I was in like this place in there as these all these rooms and I would open up
• 14:56
  Trisha Smith: Oh my god.
• 14:59
  Trisha Smith: this door and there'd be like some ghosts or spirit in there and I kept trying to tell it like get out like,
• 15:04
  Leyla Zmeskal: Get out and finally I was like, so worked up, like I woke myself up like saying something.
• 15:11
  Trisha Smith: Wow,
• 15:13
  Leyla Zmeskal: Awkward, huh.
• 15:13
  Leyla Zmeskal: Look into the wonderful world of Leyla's mind. I don't know what, you know I think I did read what an open like new rooms were but I didn't add it in there because I was like, no one needs to know how crazy I really am. But um night terrors are when the person remains asleep, but actually sit up with their eyes open and scream and shout, maybe flail around or act very afraid. So the difference between nightmares and night terrors is that nightmares and night terrors. So night terrors happen in non REM sleep.
• 15:57
  Trisha Smith: Oh, okay.
• 15:58
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah. And last for a few seconds to a few minutes. It's most common in children. My brother had night, night terrors when he was younger, I remember that, like he would wake up and it looked like he was awake, and he was freaked the fuck out like panicking, like all the classic characteristics of a night terror. But adults can have them as well. I mean, it's not too c mmon, but they can exper ence them as well, right. So wit that being said, What are th most common nightmares? What wo ld you think some of them ar?
• 16:31
  Trisha Smith: Falling?
• 16:32
  Leyla Zmeskal: Falling.
• 16:32
  Leyla Zmeskal: Actually, yes,
• 16:36
  Trisha Smith: Death.
• 16:36
  Leyla Zmeskal: Is one. Yes,
• 16:38
  Trisha Smith: Or being attacked or something like that, yeah.
• 16:41
  Leyla Zmeskal: Teeth falling out.
• 16:42
  Trisha Smith: Oh,
• 16:43
  Leyla Zmeskal: I've never had that one. But they say that's actually really common. And it can mean that you're out of control powerless or inadequate?
• 16:51
  Trisha Smith: Hmm.
• 16:53
  Leyla Zmeskal: It could also reflect your anxieties about your appearance and how people and how others perceive you.
• 16:58
  Trisha Smith: Wow. Yeah,
• 17:00
  Leyla Zmeskal: By your teeth falling out?
• 17:01
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, right.
• 17:02
  Leyla Zmeskal: Wouldn't that give you even more aniexty about how other people look at you?
• 17:05
  Trisha Smith: I know.
• 17:06
  Leyla Zmeskal: Like don't look at me I've got a big hole in my face.
• 17:13
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 17:15
  Leyla Zmeskal: Being chased,
• 17:16
  Trisha Smith: Yes.
• 17:17
  Leyla Zmeskal: You are avoiding or running away from something that is causing you fear or anxiety and anxiety? Like you are not dealing with some bullshit that you need to deal with.
• 17:28
  Trisha Smith: I can see that.
• 17:29
  Leyla Zmeskal: So, being naked in public.
• 17:32
  Trisha Smith: No, I've never I've always I mean, I hear about that one all the time. And I've never had that dream.
• 17:38
  Leyla Zmeskal: I've never had that one either.
• 17:38
  Trisha Smith: Probably because I don't know how. I mean, in real life. Maybe it would bother me, but not enough to like stress out about it and dream about it.
• 17:46
  Leyla Zmeskal: But being naked is not really what it means. Not being able to find yourself. You may feel vulnerable or exposed in some way.
• 17:55
  Trisha Smith: Okay, I don't have that problem.
• 17:57
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah, no, i've never had that.
• 17:58
  Trisha Smith: I mean not. Not to say that people don't it's just yet you know, that's never been like,
• 18:05
  Leyla Zmeskal: Something you've experienced.
• 18:06
  Trisha Smith: Stressed out about. Yeah,
• 18:07
  Leyla Zmeskal: I've never had the teeth falling out thing.
• 18:09
  Leyla Zmeskal: I've never had the naked in public. Can't remember I've had to being chased
• 18:16
  Trisha Smith: Oh I've definitely been chased, and it's usually by something scary. You know, that I can't see. Or, you know, yeah,
• 18:25
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah. Well, you're running away from something that you should of fucking delt with.
• 18:28
  Trisha Smith: Probably.
• 18:29
  Leyla Zmeskal: Just saying.
• 18:30
  Trisha Smith: You know me, you know that's true, like confrontation.
• 18:35
  Leyla Zmeskal: Flying. Oh, have you ever had dreams of flying?
• 18:39
  Leyla Zmeskal: I've never had dreams of flying,
• 18:40
  Trisha Smith: Falling? Yeah.
• 18:40
  Trisha Smith: Never flying, falling. But never flying. Just falling
• 18:45
  Leyla Zmeskal: Can suggest that something or someone is stopping you from moving on to the next step in life. Could also mean you're scared of heights. I figured like, duh, fear of not being in control, or having nothing solid to hold on to in life or the fear of death.
• 19:07
  Trisha Smith: Mm hmm.
• 19:09
  Leyla Zmeskal: But if there's no negative feeling attached, with falling or flying, you just may jerk yourself awake and realize like you're sleeping, how I've done that before where I kind of like, yep, like all of a sudden body has spazed.
• 19:24
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 19:24
  Leyla Zmeskal: And that's because you're in a state of consciousness between waking and sleeping.
• 19:29
  Trisha Smith: Okay,
• 19:30
  Leyla Zmeskal: Like all of a sudden you jerk but always think that I'm still awake, but I guess I'm like, transitioning into that.
• 19:37
  Trisha Smith: Okay,
• 19:38
  Leyla Zmeskal: Sleep. What about being late?
• 19:40
  Trisha Smith: No, not really.
• 19:42
  Leyla Zmeskal: Never had that one either. But that can mean that you're feeling pressure of some kind in your life and it can also be subconscious expression of regret or frustration over a missed opportunity.
• 19:54
  Trisha Smith: Wow.
• 19:54
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah. And sometimes it's not just about like the action sometimes images can be in your dreams I have meaning. Okay. Like boxes. Hmm.
• 20:02
  Leyla Zmeskal: Like Like I'm like, well this is so weird. Um, boxes can be a sign of emotional problems.
• 20:14
  Trisha Smith: Oh.
• 20:15
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah, didn't know that.
• 20:17
  Trisha Smith: Keeping everything boxed up?
• 20:19
  Leyla Zmeskal: Maybe, maybe.
• 20:19
  Leyla Zmeskal: Babies,
• 20:22
  Trisha Smith: Oh no.
• 20:24
  Leyla Zmeskal: It can symbolize a new beginning but a crying baby can be your ignoring part of yourself that needs attention.
• 20:31
  Trisha Smith: Hmm okay.
• 20:34
  Leyla Zmeskal: The moon,
• 20:37
  Trisha Smith: Not unless it's in a bigger context, like the moon was shining in my dream maybe yeah but not specifically about the moon.
• 20:45
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah, you can be you, can be you're keeping your emotional self and feelings hidden from others. Like that's a weird association to me.
• 20:54
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 20:54
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah moon in your keeping like that was to me I was like why can you, That's so weird/
• 21:01
  Trisha Smith: Yeah,
• 21:01
  Leyla Zmeskal: A ringing phone
• 21:04
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, no, you know, I guess I would have to be really jotting down.
• 21:11
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah,
• 21:11
  Trisha Smith: Because these are very specific.
• 21:13
  Leyla Zmeskal: I know like I was surprised. I'm like, What does a ringing phone mean? It means that you have contacted a new part of your personality or new opportunities are coming.
• 21:25
  Trisha Smith: Okay, huh? Why would you have a nightmare about that?
• 21:29
  Leyla Zmeskal: I don't know.
• 21:29
  Trisha Smith: Huh?
• 21:31
  Leyla Zmeskal: I don't know. Um, some others, snakes.
• 21:37
  Trisha Smith: No
• 21:37
  Leyla Zmeskal: No, I've never had dreams of snakes. Could could point to deceitful actions, and maybe it's you that's performing them. Mars?
• 21:51
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, no, no, it's right up there with the moon.
• 21:54
  Leyla Zmeskal: Never dreamed Mars. Could mean you're about to enter a dangerous situation.
• 21:59
  Trisha Smith: Oh,
• 21:59
  Leyla Zmeskal: I did not know that.
• 22:01
  Trisha Smith: How would you know?
• 22:02
  Leyla Zmeskal: I don't know.
• 22:03
  Trisha Smith: Right? How would you know you're dreaming about Mars?
• 22:05
  Leyla Zmeskal: And like who is the one that decides like Mars?
• 22:08
  Leyla Zmeskal: Somebody is dreaming to Mars?
• 22:08
  Leyla Zmeskal: What are we going to associate this with Mars.
• 22:13
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 22:13
  Leyla Zmeskal: You're about to enter a dangerous situation is that because like Mars? It's,
• 22:19
  Trisha Smith: Far away?
• 22:20
  Trisha Smith: I don't know.
• 22:22
  Leyla Zmeskal: So what can you do to help prevent nightmares?
• 22:25
  Trisha Smith: Oh,
• 22:27
  Leyla Zmeskal: You can sleep in a comfortable bed or position? I think that's kind of a no brainer. Like who doesn't want to sleep in a comfortable bed or position.
• 22:34
  Trisha Smith: Right, and if you're not you should probably fix that.
• 22:36
  Leyla Zmeskal: You should probably do that.
• 22:37
  Trisha Smith: Right away.
• 22:38
  Leyla Zmeskal: I mean, matress toppers you know, pillows,
• 22:42
  Trisha Smith: Exactly.
• 22:42
  Leyla Zmeskal: No pillows, pillows, lots of pillows, different kinds of pillows,
• 22:46
  Trisha Smith: Do something.
• 22:46
  Leyla Zmeskal: Like all kinds of things,
• 22:47
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 22:49
  Leyla Zmeskal: Watch what you eat and drink, especially before bed.
• 22:52
  Trisha Smith: Okay.
• 22:53
  Leyla Zmeskal: Destress and relax your mind. You know,
• 22:57
  Trisha Smith: I always I love that destress. Like it's so easy. If I'm stressed out, there's no fixing that. But I did hear that spicy foods can give you a can give you nightmares.
• 23:10
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah, that would be eat or drink.
• 23:11
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 23:12
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah,
• 23:12
  Trisha Smith: But specifically spicy foods.
• 23:15
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah, interesting to me. Smell something nice.
• 23:20
  Leyla Zmeskal: Well, they say like, destressing. Take like lavender bath, epsom salt lavender bath to kind of relax you. I've done that you'd like essential oil bath.
• 23:30
  Trisha Smith: Nothing on fire?
• 23:31
  Leyla Zmeskal: Nothing. Probably not. And then talk through your problems before you go to bed.
• 23:37
  Leyla Zmeskal: Or when you're having them so that way they don't linger on your mind.
• 23:44
  Trisha Smith: That goes right there with the distressing.
• 23:46
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, that does, if I could do all that.
• 23:49
  Leyla Zmeskal: And you know, you can always write down your dreams and of course your nightmares to help you interpret and work through them. But you know, sometimes, even the scariest of your dreams can give you like the greatest inspiration. Like how many people have used their nightmares to create like books or movies or you know, at one time we were part of a dance company and she would have dreams and a lot of her dreams that she would turn into routines.
• 24:21
  Trisha Smith: Right, right,
• 24:22
  Leyla Zmeskal: You know, so.
• 24:23
  Trisha Smith: Um, there was a book, a while, it's by Stephen King called, The `Tommyknockers.
• 24:27
  Trisha Smith: And do you remember the girl would hooked herself up to her typewriters and then it would turn out book after book after book through her dreams? So weird, but yeah, yeah, so I remember that.
• 24:46
  Leyla Zmeskal: Write your shit down.
• 24:47
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, you never know.
• 24:49
  Leyla Zmeskal: Like, I wish I wrote like, you know, that latest dream down like,
• 24:53
  Trisha Smith: Right,
• 24:54
  Leyla Zmeskal: You know, there was multiple rooms and, you know, I would open doors and I would be so pist, I feel like pist that somebody was in there like, get the fuck out of here
• 25:04
  Trisha Smith: I wonder after talking about it ,if now you'll you have the dream again. Do you ever wonder if that happens like if you say, Oh, I dreamt about this ,Dd you ever have it again
• 25:13
  Leyla Zmeskal: I've had dreams that are similar to each other after, I've never like, oh, listen to see if there's any correlation between talking about it.
• 25:23
  Leyla Zmeskal: before but they've never been nightmares. Like they're always like, Oh, I don't mind returning to this dream at all, you know
• 25:32
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 25:33
  Leyla Zmeskal: You know? And then of course the other one I maybe sometimes the same people are in the dream or you know, but the two nightmares and I would only say that that latest one was a nightmare because I woke myself up by voicing, said I'd like told about like way in our very first episode of season one about.
• 25:56
  Trisha Smith: Something in your room.
• 25:58
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah, In my closet.
• 25:59
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah. And I've never had that.
• 25:59
  Leyla Zmeskal: I've never had any kind of dreams like that, up until that point. And I've never had any dreams like that sense. But again, I was so like, freaked out and then I got so mad that there was something in my house that I literally, like told it to get out and chase it. And you know, the weirdest thing. I'm just gonna add this. I was talking to my neighbor across the way one Christmas. And we were talking about Christmas decorations. And then we got on the this like, spooky topic. He had seen something dark and shadowy in his house, too.
• 26:40
  Trisha Smith: Oh,
• 26:40
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah. And he told it to like, get out, too. I was like, that's very odd.
• 26:47
  Trisha Smith: Right? Right.
• 26:47
  Trisha Smith: You've got a neighborhood ghost,
• 26:53
  Leyla Zmeskal: Neighborhood, Shadow figure. Just like that leaves when you tell it to Yeah,
• 26:57
  Trisha Smith: But it's going from house to house. Like just hang it out, I wonder what their having for dinner over here.
• 27:03
  Leyla Zmeskal: I don't know, the one that was in my did not seem like the friendly little shadow figure. I was like, I was like, scared. And he was too but I thought that was interesting that, you know, I had this weird dream that I've never dreamt before living in this place. And then speaking to the neighbor across the way, he had, like a similar experience. So I was like,
• 27:28
  Trisha Smith: That is weird.
• 27:29
  Leyla Zmeskal: Well that was kind of odd.
• 27:31
  Trisha Smith: It wasn't like some random person. It was a neighbor.
• 27:34
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah. And he just kind of was like, you know, matter of fact, because they have a little weird stuff happening in their in their place. Yeah, like lights coming on and things like that. And I don't have that right. Of course, my sister did stay with me once and she said that my place was creepy as fuck. Like, you're fucking dumb. It's a townhouse, how can it be creepy?
• 27:59
  Leyla Zmeskal: But yeah, that's about nightmares. It wasn't spooky or scary, but I thought it was a lot. That was interesting.
• 28:04
  Trisha Smith: It can be.
• 28:05
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah,
• 28:06
  Trisha Smith: I mean, it can be.
• 28:06
  Trisha Smith: How many times have you felt like you're doing something that you think you dreamt about?
• 28:14
  Trisha Smith: Right?
• 28:14
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah.
• 28:15
  Trisha Smith: And sometimes, when I've had like, what I would consider, like a nightmare. I've always it lingers to where, like, we got to hope that's not something that's going to happen, you know, because, again, when I talk about my being anxiety driven, it's usually about an accident, or something happening to somebody, it's never me, it's always somebody close to me.
• 28:37
  Leyla Zmeskal: So when you write these down, do you ever go back and kind of like, look at what you wrote down and see if anything like happen, like has happened or anything?
• 28:46
  Trisha Smith: I really don't. I think if I, if it triggered something, then I would probably go back and look, but for the most part, I really don't. And they're so fragmented. You know what you write, it's like, right, it was dark, or it was light it was you know, this person was in it, and I felt like this, but really, there's no rhyme or reason to it. Right?
• 29:09
  Leyla Zmeskal: Do you have like a dream journal or diary or do So you just write them down in a notebook?
• 29:14
  Trisha Smith: I do. I do have a couple now. I have one from somebody very talented. And then my one of my girlfriends has given me some in the past that I've written down. My favorite that she's given me lately is one that you use before you go to sleep.
• 29:34
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh,
• 29:35
  Trisha Smith: And you can write down you know, like your thoughts for the day. How did you feel? And I think that kind of alleviates, it helps me sleep better.
• 29:43
  Leyla Zmeskal: Kind of like a gratitude journal or a reflection journal.
• 29:47
  Trisha Smith: Right? Right.
• 29:47
  Trisha Smith: Kinda like that, but more like just your thoughts on the day. I don't really use it for like gratitude or anything like that.
• 29:57
  Trisha Smith: But,
• 30:00
  Leyla Zmeskal: Fuck gratitude.
• 30:03
  Trisha Smith: Just you know, I used to in the past. I used to make a list before I went to bed like, this is what I have to do tomorrow this,
• 30:10
  Leyla Zmeskal: Is who I have to kill. Oh, sorry yeah
• 30:19
  Trisha Smith: You know, but the listing kind of helped me and this kind of takes the place of it but actually, there's a Diane gave me that one right there do you see? And it's
• 30:31
  Leyla Zmeskal: Fuck that shit show.
• 30:36
  Trisha Smith: The same thing it's like a book with,
• 30:38
  Leyla Zmeskal: Gratitude journal for tired ass women.
• 30:41
  Trisha Smith: Exactly,
• 30:43
  Leyla Zmeskal: And what does it have on it? Pineapples?
• 30:46
  Trisha Smith: I've never written in it but I pulled it out cuz I'm like, you know what. I feel like I need this in my life.
• 30:57
  Leyla Zmeskal: That's so funny.
• 30:59
  Trisha Smith: We'll have to fit that one in. But yeah, I think writing down before I go to bed helps more than writing after my I mean, I will say the amount of weird dreams has shifted since I've started writing stuff down before I go to bed.
• 31:16
  Leyla Zmeskal: It's like getting it all out.
• 31:17
  Trisha Smith: Exactly. So definitely,
• 31:19
  Leyla Zmeskal: It's not bothering you anymore. That's interesting. And that could be a way of distressing.
• 31:23
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, absolutely, good ideas there. I'll have to try some of them.
• 31:29
  Leyla Zmeskal: Write down your dreams.
• 31:30
  Trisha Smith: Right,
• 31:30
  Leyla Zmeskal: We'll post a really great dream diary for you, in case your interested in a really good one that's got no frills, no foo foo, just straightforward.
• 31:38
  Trisha Smith: Exactly. We got we have a source, we have a source.
• 31:42
  Leyla Zmeskal: It's cutesy.
• 31:47
  Leyla Zmeskal: So what about you?
• 31:49
  Trisha Smith: Well, I,
• 31:50
  Leyla Zmeskal: What you got for me today.
• 31:52
  Trisha Smith: I'm looking at stuff to do in Orlando or the surrounding area for October.
• 31:56
  Trisha Smith: But then I realized I'm really too busy this month to do anything.
• 32:02
  Leyla Zmeskal: It goes by so fast.
• 32:03
  Trisha Smith: I know.
• 32:04
  Leyla Zmeskal: September flew by,
• 32:05
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 32:06
  Leyla Zmeskal: Like ridiculously quick.
• 32:07
  Trisha Smith: And then this month it you know, I'm like, oh, October 1 and then the next thing I know it's the middle of October. Like how did that happen?
• 32:15
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah, it was just the first the other day.
• 32:17
  Trisha Smith: Right.
• 32:17
  Trisha Smith: And so while I was looking for things to do, you know, in the area, I came across this hunting in Tampa.
• 32:27
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh, it's a central Florida hunting.
• 32:30
  Trisha Smith: Right, right.
• 32:30
  Trisha Smith: Close. Not too close, but close enough. And it's an Ybor city,
• 32:36
  Leyla Zmeskal: Of course it's an Ybor.
• 32:40
  Trisha Smith: Yeah. Which is in itself is just,
• 32:42
  Leyla Zmeskal: Has so many claims.
• 32:44
  Trisha Smith: Yeah. If you want to go ghost hunting, everybody will say that's where you need to go. Because they have a lot of cool, cool old buildings.
• 32:52
  Leyla Zmeskal: And a lot of their buildings claim to have activity.
• 32:56
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, absolutely.
• 32:56
  Trisha Smith: So this one in particular is a 100 year old, former church building, and it's located at 1909 North 15th Street in Ybor City, and it houses both the, Cereal Holic Cafe.
• 33:15
  Leyla Zmeskal: Cereal Holic?
• 33:18
  Trisha Smith: I know. I didn't really see anything, I'm like do they serve cereal.
• 33:22
  Leyla Zmeskal: I was gonna say is it serial?
• 33:24
  Trisha Smith: It said cereal themed but I'm like it'd be really cool if they just served you cereal. I would like Frosted Flakes with Lucky Charms marshmallows in it. Oh, that'd be cool if they aren't doing that they should.
• 33:42
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah,
• 33:42
  Trisha Smith: I'm just saying.
• 33:43
  Leyla Zmeskal: Who blends cereal? I'm sure there's people out there that do.
• 33:48
  Trisha Smith: Oh.
• 33:49
  Leyla Zmeskal: I've never have.
• 33:51
  Trisha Smith: You know, I do actually.
• 33:52
  Leyla Zmeskal: You do?
• 33:54
  Trisha Smith: Out of necessity, because.
• 33:57
  Leyla Zmeskal: I got a year this.
• 33:58
  Trisha Smith: My family will eat all the cereal except the last half cup.
• 34:03
  Leyla Zmeskal: Well because it's all broken up and crumbly and the milk gets gunked up and gross.
• 34:09
  Trisha Smith: Oh my God. You sound just like them.
• 34:11
  Leyla Zmeskal: And they're smart.
• 34:13
  Trisha Smith: What do they do?
• 34:13
  Trisha Smith: Do they throw it away? No, they leave it in the box in the cabinet taking up valuable shelf space. So what do I do? I go through the boxes and I take all of them and I dump them all into the bowl and I eat them all together to get rid of the box because I can't just throw it away either, what's wrong with me?
• 34:35
  Leyla Zmeskal: You're a mom.
• 34:36
  Trisha Smith: I guess, a cheap mom evidently can't throw out a half cup of cereal. Anyways, so off topic there. But this, Cereal Holic Cafe, has a downstairs which is the, After Holic Speakeasy, who new serial.
• 34:56
  Leyla Zmeskal: I mean Holic is in there.
• 34:57
  Trisha Smith: A Holiic in both of them , so your're addicted to something.
• 35:01
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah, you got it, you got it.
• 35:03
  Trisha Smith: But apparently, it both locations are haunted. The building is haunted. So the owner is Lisa Lawson. And she said she first realized this in September of 2020. So just last year, she was preparing for the January grand opening. And that was when she heard banging upstairs when she was downstairs and vice versa. But she never discovered the source of the noise. Which, you know,
• 35:34
  Leyla Zmeskal: I mean, if you're alone, and you're downstairs, oh, I would think that oh, there's somebody upstairs,
• 35:39
  Trisha Smith: Right? But then when she was upstairs, she'd hear the begging downstairs when nobody was down there. So that's weird. So but things started going missing as well. She would put something down and when she returned, it would be gone. So she would say, Listen, I do not have time to play with you guys.
• 35:57
  Trisha Smith: And a short time later, the missing item would be returned.
• 36:01
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh,
• 36:02
  Trisha Smith: I know. That sounds like what are those called the little things that run around and steal? Do you remember what was the story we talked about? There's like not fairies. Now like little elves you know, they run? Yeah, that's what that sounds like.
• 36:17
  Leyla Zmeskal: Little mischievious bastages.
• 36:20
  Trisha Smith: So security footage sometimes includes orbs, and customers who identified as mediums have told her that they see spirits as well.
• 36:29
  Leyla Zmeskal: Okay.
• 36:29
  Trisha Smith: But according to Tessa Shriver Kramer, whose family owned the building in the early 90s they have never experienced anything like she's there when they were there, or when they own the building,
• 36:43
  Leyla Zmeskal: Right?
• 36:44
  Trisha Smith: They never experienced anything that could be considered supernatural.
• 36:48
  Leyla Zmeskal: We're paying attention or,
• 36:50
  Trisha Smith: They were because I mean, they say it could be totally plausible. But they do believe in the supernatural because her family also used to own a building at 1915.
• 37:04
  Trisha Smith: Republica de Cuba Avenue, which is now office space, but when they owned it, it was an inn.
• 37:09
  Trisha Smith: And it was so haunted that the travel channel's show, The Dead Files.
• 37:19
  Leyla Zmeskal: Ah, I love that show.
• 37:21
  Trisha Smith: You and Diane, both. The dead Files, nicknamed it hotel, hell.
• 37:26
  Leyla Zmeskal: Shut the front door.
• 37:28
  Trisha Smith: Um hm, so she's like, you know what, we didn't experience anything, but I wouldn't doubt that, that it is.
• 37:37
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh my gosh, I want to go find that episode now and watch it.
• 37:40
  Trisha Smith: Hotel hell.
• 37:41
  Leyla Zmeskal: Hotel hell.
• 37:42
  Trisha Smith: So according to Max Herman, who has a ghost tour that stops there at that location. This is the story.
• 37:51
  Leyla Zmeskal: I'm ready,
• 37:52
  Trisha Smith: Okay.
• 37:53
  Leyla Zmeskal: Tell me Max.
• 37:54
  Trisha Smith: I know, right? A man organized a cigar strike in 1927 and then negotiated a settlement with the factory owners for a large sum of money to pay the workers for their time missed.
• 38:06
  Leyla Zmeskal: Because there is a cigar factory in that area.
• 38:09
  Trisha Smith: Um Hmm. The owners agreed. But then the man and his girlfriend skipped town with the money. When they returned a year or two later to get married, a hitman hired by the factory owners killed the groom to be in the church basement as they were planning their wedding. And that is who is supposed to be haunting the building today.
• 38:31
  Leyla Zmeskal: Well he is a dumb ass for returning.
• 38:33
  Trisha Smith: Right?
• 38:34
  Leyla Zmeskal: I mean come on.
• 38:35
  Trisha Smith: Yeah,
• 38:35
  Leyla Zmeskal: You skipped town.
• 38:35
  Leyla Zmeskal: Don't return back.
• 38:37
  Trisha Smith: Not two years later,
• 38:39
  Leyla Zmeskal: They haven't forgotten.
• 38:40
  Trisha Smith: Yeah, it's gonna be like 10 to 15.
• 38:42
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah.
• 38:43
  Trisha Smith: And a disguise.
• 38:45
  Leyla Zmeskal: Like you look different in 10 to 15 years, you'll look different.
• 38:48
  Trisha Smith: Exactly.
• 38:49
  Leyla Zmeskal: Come back then.
• 38:50
  Trisha Smith: But according to Rodney Kite, Powell from the Tampa Bay History Center, these are the real facts behind the story.
• 38:57
  Leyla Zmeskal: Give me the real facts.
• 38:59
  Trisha Smith: Yes, the building was originally a church that was built in 1911 and used as such through the 50s.
• 39:05
  Leyla Zmeskal: Okay,
• 39:06
  Trisha Smith: Yes, there were strikes throughout 1927. But they were nothing to do with labor issues and didn't require a negotiator or settlement. But they were actually part of worldwide demonstrations in solidarity with two Italian immigrants who are believed to be wrongly convicted of murder in Massachusetts, so they had nothing to do with, you know, walking out, not getting paid and all that. So there are no records of a murder in the church, according to the Tampa Bay Times,
• 39:38
  Leyla Zmeskal: Okay.
• 39:39
  Trisha Smith: But in 1928, according to newspapers, a man was shot inside an illegal casino over a gambling feud, about a block away from the church. He later died at a medical clinic that was also a block away.
• 39:55
  Leyla Zmeskal: Okay.
• 39:56
  Trisha Smith: So, you know,
• 39:58
  Leyla Zmeskal: I mean, it's possible.
• 39:58
  Trisha Smith: They didn't unnecessarily die in the building but close,
• 40:02
  Leyla Zmeskal: But it's close enough,
• 40:03
  Trisha Smith: Right? So, this October, I mean you too can check this out because, The Serial Holic Cafe and the After Holic Speakeasy will be hosting a 90 minute event called the haunted tavern. A dark pop up cocktail experience.
• 40:20
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh,
• 40:21
  Trisha Smith: So it would just be cool to go check out.
• 40:22
  Leyla Zmeskal: When you say a dark cocktail pop up experience, it like just that sounds like Oh, what is this?
• 40:28
  Trisha Smith: I know.
• 40:29
  Leyla Zmeskal: I like dark cocktails,
• 40:30
  Trisha Smith: Right. According to their press release, descendents of Ichabod Crane will tell ghost stories as the tavern keeper guide you through a four part interactive cocktail journey.
• 40:43
  Leyla Zmeskal: Okay.
• 40:46
  Trisha Smith: They're not really descendants of a Ichabod Crane, but still sounds kinda cool.
• 40:51
  Leyla Zmeskal: I mean, we all know who Ichabod Crane is.
• 40:54
  Trisha Smith: Right? So owner Lisa Lawson said non believers are welcome, but advises keeping opinions to themselves. When she held a similar event in February, a woman mocked the existence of ghosts. According to Lawson, just as she did shot glasses fell from the walls, and a table collapsed. When the ghosts don't like something being said about them. They let you know.
• 41:20
  Leyla Zmeskal: Oh, well, you know what, here's what I say. If you go to something like that.
• 41:23
  Leyla Zmeskal: You're curious on some level, so keep your fucking mock to yourself. Don't be such a damn wet blanket.
• 41:34
  Trisha Smith: Right,
• 41:34
  Leyla Zmeskal: Karen. Sorry all you non karens, karens out there.
• 41:40
  Trisha Smith: But, yeah, there's always like one bad apple.
• 41:44
  Leyla Zmeskal: I sat, shut the fuck up, get out of here then.
• 41:47
  Trisha Smith: I wonder if one of the shot glasses hitter in the head.
• 41:50
  Leyla Zmeskal: I mean, I can understand rolling your eyes and just being like, don't believe it. You don't mock anything.
• 41:55
  Trisha Smith: Exactly.. So anyhow, the pop up experience is, Thursdays, Fridays, and Saturday, Thursday, Friday, Saturdays and Sunday through October multiple times. Tickets are $55 and include for cocktails.
• 42:13
  Leyla Zmeskal: That seems a little pricey.
• 42:15
  Trisha Smith: Well, for what is that? How much is that per?
• 42:19
  Trisha Smith: That's under $15 per cocktail?
• 42:21
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah.
• 42:21
  Trisha Smith: Which is about you know what? you'd pay it? Yeah, nice restaurant.
• 42:26
  Leyla Zmeskal: So you can go there and like have dinner.
• 42:28
  Trisha Smith: And you get a story.
• 42:30
  Leyla Zmeskal: And a story?
• 42:31
  Trisha Smith: Yeah.
• 42:31
  Leyla Zmeskal: With a descendant of Ichabod Crane.
• 42:33
  Trisha Smith: Exactly. I think if you're looking for a nice spooky night out but not gimmicky or like a haunted house or something like that. Well, I should say gimmicky. But you know, not all like, yeah, the opposite of like Halloween Horror Nights.
• 42:52
  Leyla Zmeskal: Right, Right.
• 42:52
  Leyla Zmeskal: Right.
• 42:54
  Trisha Smith: You know, if you're looking for a nice night out with a tinge of spookiness.
• 42:56
  Trisha Smith: Oh, you know what I just saw, what do you remember last year?
• 43:00
  Trisha Smith: We did that, train the phantasmagoria train. Where was that, Tavares?
• 43:08
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah, okay.
• 43:09
  Trisha Smith: And it was a, you took the train. And they did like a little performance theater. They and they were recently at the Dr. Philips and they had a little stage show.
• 43:23
  Trisha Smith: But they're doing it again on a train ride. But it's in Georgia, the Georgia it's out of Jacksonville and to Georgia and back, but the same little two hour train ride. So if you're in the Central Florida area, and you're looking for some cool, mostly ghostly things to do, you know, here's a pop up cocktail and a cool phantasmagoria train ride.
• 43:51
  Leyla Zmeskal: That was a lot of fun when we did it.
• 43:52
  Trisha Smith: Yeah,
• 43:52
  Leyla Zmeskal: I mean, it was really super cute. I liked it.
• 43:54
  Trisha Smith: Right. So we're going to put both of the links for those on our website, so you can check it out. You still got a couple weeks left in October.
• 44:00
  Trisha Smith: And I think it'd be fun. We got to pick one and do it.
• 44:07
  Leyla Zmeskal: There's also a Halloween themed bar in Orlando.
• 44:09
  Trisha Smith: Oh, is it the Cocktails and Screams or something like that?
• 44:12
  Leyla Zmeskal: I don't know what it's, I don't know the name of but I just know there's a Halloween themed bar that pops up every year in downtown.
• 44:17
  Trisha Smith: Oh, I think there's one that's permanent.
• 44:20
  Trisha Smith: It's there.
• 44:21
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah,
• 44:22
  Trisha Smith: the Cocktails and Screams.
• 44:22
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yes. Is that what it's called?
• 44:25
  Trisha Smith: I've never been.
• 44:26
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah,
• 44:26
  Trisha Smith: But it's supposed to be really cool.
• 44:28
  Leyla Zmeskal: Yeah. All kinds of like, spooky,
• 44:30
  Trisha Smith: Right? I'm not a fan of downtown. I used to be but too old for that now.
• 44:37
  Leyla Zmeskal: It's parking.
• 44:38
  Trisha Smith: But if you're young,
• 44:39
  Leyla Zmeskal: We're like a stick in the mud, there's people everywhere.
• 44:46
  Trisha Smith: If you're young and you like people and you don't mind parking near other cars, check it out. Let us know.
• 44:56
  Trisha Smith: Until then, I'm just gonna make my own cocktails at home.
• 44:59
  Leyla Zmeskal: Damn old fuddy duddies we are.
• 45:01
  Leyla Zmeskal: And we're not even that old.
• 45:01
  Trisha Smith: I know want to go get another.
• 45:03
  Trisha Smith: Oh, it's some days It feels like it, like today where I'm going to go down and get another cup of tea with a shot of whiskey. Like so damn 80 year old woman. Until next time on that depressing note.
• 45:21
  Leyla Zmeskal: Cheers.
• 45:22
  Trisha Smith: Cheers.
• 45:23
  Leyla Zmeskal: Hey, like what you hear?
• 45:25
  Diane Black: Check us out on Instagram.
• 45:26
  Trisha Smith: Or send us a message at boozy banter with friends dot com.
• 45:30
  Leyla Zmeskal: Thanks for listening.
• 45:31
  Trisha Smith: Until next time,
• 45:32
  Diane Black: Late-a.