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- 0:01SPEAKER_02: Welcoming you all to the Ascension Alchemist Podcast.
- 0:05SPEAKER_02: This is Reverend Honey Borden.
- 0:07SPEAKER_00: And this is Michael Abramson.
- 0:09SPEAKER_02: We are delighted to have you join us today, especially those of you who are new that are coming into this community.
- 0:17SPEAKER_02: We really welcome you.
- 0:18SPEAKER_02: This is a home if you have been looking to embrace living from a true conviction, a deep connection with the presence of God Almighty, without all the dogma, but being able to have a personal relationship with that beautiful Christ in you.
- 0:36SPEAKER_02: And also if you have journeyed through all the spiritual things and you're like, you know what?
- 0:42SPEAKER_02: I just want to be stronger in my faith.
- 0:46SPEAKER_02: You definitely have arrived at a wonderful, wonderful community.
- 0:50SPEAKER_00: And we're so grateful that each and every one of you have joined us today as we're honored from all around the world of what you're tuning into.
- 0:57SPEAKER_00: Honey and I feel so blessed that when you take the time to listen, we just feel so thankful that there is a great community out there to support what we know is here for our highest and greatest goods.
- 1:09SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
- 1:10SPEAKER_02: And it is all of us are walking each other home.
- 1:13SPEAKER_02: So we are Michael and I are focused where you get to lead your own life with the presence of God.
- 1:20SPEAKER_02: We are leading our life from there, and we're sharing the way we're walking it.
- 1:25SPEAKER_02: So you get to also give yourself permission because the presence of God is not outside of you, it's in you and is always available.
- 1:35SPEAKER_00: It's an everyday walk.
- 1:37SPEAKER_00: We feel like you know, this the opportunity to express it in our thoughts and our emotions and our feelings, and we're grateful that we really put this devotion toward it absolutely to really being what we know is expressing our highest love and really placing it for each other, even during times like today.
- 1:58SPEAKER_02: Yes.
- 1:58SPEAKER_02: So let's talk about the topic of today.
- 2:00SPEAKER_00: Yes.
- 2:00SPEAKER_02: So how we how should we say this is going to be a shorter podcast episode because you're getting ready to leave.
- 2:05SPEAKER_02: So what do we want?
- 2:07SPEAKER_00: The focus is on well, I feel the focus is obviously in our relationship, it's very important to be in a position to honor, respect, love within our relationship, no matter what is happening in our own individual lives or in our relationship, we still keep our commitment of our devotion of love, our honor of love, and most important, our respect of love, even times when we transition in times apart from each other.
- 2:38SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
- 2:39SPEAKER_02: So this, what I would say the topic of today is you know, how do we cultivate this amazing blessings of love that God Almighty has given to us while one of us is getting ready to go and travel for several days out of the country?
- 2:54SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 2:54SPEAKER_02: Yeah, literally.
- 2:55SPEAKER_00: And I feel like it's a great one because in our day and time, many of us do have those opportunities where family trips come up, business trips come up, yet that cultivation of love, most importantly, within God Almighty, and our expression to the ones we love most, our dear partners, our dear loved ones, ones that we are in a constant discipline of committing our love.
- 3:21SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
- 3:21SPEAKER_02: So that what that translates, for example, today is a the reason why this podcast is surely because you're still packing your suitcase, you're getting ready, your mom's getting ready to come, and it's exciting because you're going on this trip with your mom.
- 3:34SPEAKER_02: And it's so excited.
- 3:36SPEAKER_02: You you you get to go to UK and have this dream come true, which was a dream this year that you wanted to fulfill for your mom's birthday and your birthday together.
- 3:46SPEAKER_02: Go experience it, and you're getting ready to go.
- 3:49SPEAKER_02: I was originally going to be coming with you as well as your mom's partner, and uh I felt the strong call to stay back so you and your mom can have this amazing experience, and and it's been amazing to watch the unfold man and hear the day comes.
- 4:06SPEAKER_00: And I feel that takes a great amount of maturity.
- 4:08SPEAKER_00: I want to thank you, honey, in front of our viewers because originally I wanted to take the whole family, me, you, my mom, and her boyfriend, and you stopped and said, you know what, it may be better just for you to do a mother-son trip because how many times does you get the opportunity, especially while she's in her youth, her level of joy and excitement, and you said, Wow, I can't wait till I get the opportunity to travel with my son or son's on a trip.
- 4:33SPEAKER_00: So I want to thank you for that because I feel it gives something very intimate to share that and at the same time still feel as I'm with my mom, that you're in my heart.
- 4:45SPEAKER_00: I'll be speaking to you daily, I'll be checking in to see how things are flowing.
- 4:49SPEAKER_00: Because, you know, this beautiful divine gift of love, we know it's not just physical, but it carries with us through wherever we go.
- 4:59SPEAKER_00: There's no time, there's no space, that separation of it.
- 5:02SPEAKER_00: It's actually what I feel an expansion of it because sometimes when we're away from each other, we miss each other more, or we want to enjoy that time when we get to speak at the end of the night or in the morning of like, how are you doing?
- 5:14SPEAKER_00: So some of these times are great opportunities to really emanate that from a deeper place.
- 5:19SPEAKER_00: When we tell you something funny, what's that?
- 5:21SPEAKER_01: So this morning when I was praying and I was writing my journal, I stumbled upon many years ago when you would, let's say, go somewhere and you would like disappear for like hours.
- 5:34SPEAKER_01: There's an hour now.
- 5:36SPEAKER_01: No, no, no, no, no.
- 5:37SPEAKER_01: I'm just trying to say something because today I didn't have any of that anxiety.
- 5:42SPEAKER_01: And you know, because this is something that over the years has been, you know, as you come to understand, hey, in a relationship, you can't go disappear for like hours, phone turn off, not saying like lost in whatever woods or water or whatever.
- 6:00SPEAKER_01: So I felt very I felt very confident because you're really on it now as you go to England, you with your mom, all of that.
- 6:10SPEAKER_01: You're not it it's not like that.
- 6:12SPEAKER_01: And I actually don't have that constant anywhere.
- 6:14SPEAKER_01: So our relationship has really evolved as we're getting into our 10 years.
- 6:20SPEAKER_00: For all those that want to hear the backstory, sometimes I'd go for a hike or I'd go for a surf or I go into nature and I lose track of time.
- 6:28SPEAKER_00: And it wouldn't be just maybe one hour, two hours, three hours.
- 6:30SPEAKER_00: It might be four or five.
- 6:32SPEAKER_00: And of course, honey would think the first thing she would think of is like, oh my gosh, a bear ate Michael, oh my gosh, a shark ate Michael.
- 6:38SPEAKER_00: She would go from not just what happened to Michael, but to the worst case scenario.
- 6:42SPEAKER_00: So I understand it's so important.
- 6:45SPEAKER_00: Lesson number 3423.
- 6:49SPEAKER_00: When going out, and you know that there may be a tendency to lose track of time or not be aware of time, to always be in a state of higher communication to your loved one.
- 7:00SPEAKER_00: Whether it's before you leave, I'm going out.
- 7:02SPEAKER_00: Whether it's sending a message, whether if you're not an area of cell phone reception, then just do your best so that when you come back, you don't leave the other person worrying, which I obviously would get lost sometimes in that joy of feeling bliss from beautiful Mother Nature.
- 7:19SPEAKER_00: So thank you.
- 7:20SPEAKER_00: That's a beautiful thing.
- 7:21SPEAKER_00: That was good.
- 7:21SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that was this morning.
- 7:22SPEAKER_02: That was this morning, and and I knew I said, you know, and like last night, like making a list of things so you you you know you can focus.
- 7:31SPEAKER_02: And today's a special day because it's my son's birthday, you know.
- 7:34SPEAKER_02: My it's Keon's 31st, no, it's 26th birthday.
- 7:39SPEAKER_02: On the 31st on the 31st today, which is amazing.
- 7:44SPEAKER_02: And as I'm taking you and your mom to the airport, I get a chance to also see him.
- 7:50SPEAKER_02: And I just have so much value, really, for for the the moments in life that's just so special, and we have to really honor it.
- 7:59SPEAKER_02: And I and I knew this is like a whole special experience you and your mom are having.
- 8:03SPEAKER_02: So, how can I support it the greatest?
- 8:05SPEAKER_02: And I feel in a relationship, especially when it's a God-led relationship like us, we have to have that maturity to recognize is this my place or is this not my place?
- 8:17SPEAKER_02: And you know, what I want to is this this is not taking away from me.
- 8:21SPEAKER_02: If anything, you know, for me to be able to support you and your mom going and and stand behind it, it's so important to stand behind our partners and to share the love fully so that way they can they can experience the blessing as they go.
- 8:40SPEAKER_02: They're like blessed on their journey, so they know they're not going with any worries, any concern, like it's all fully supported.
- 8:48SPEAKER_02: And that and a lot of times I feel with in relationships, you know, what person may not be happy about the other person going somewhere, and it's just not a support.
- 8:57SPEAKER_02: But in a God-led relationship are ours, it's very important that we meet our own insecurities and challenges.
- 9:04SPEAKER_02: We face that with the presence of God and only bring the best to each other.
- 9:08SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and I feel during these times it gives us the opportunity that we get to express even more love in that remembrance of like coming up and giving an extra hug.
- 9:18SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 9:19SPEAKER_02: You gave me a lot of hugs today.
- 9:21SPEAKER_00: Of course, because I know sometimes, you know, those simple fears may come in of like, what happens if this or that?
- 9:28SPEAKER_00: And it's and I did have those as well.
- 9:31SPEAKER_00: Interesting just to give that reconfirmation of like beautiful gestures.
- 9:36SPEAKER_00: So it's just honoring the person and not getting so self-consumed of like, okay, here's this trip between my mother and I, but I'm at the same time seeing that it's just as important for me to get on the plane with my to have the greatest love I can share with my wife and make sure that she is in her greatest state of well-being, so that whatever I can do to maintain that, so it's not a selfish or you know, a moment where I'm not giving awareness of what's going on in the present, then it allows our relationship to move in a state that when each of us move or travel or do things, we have a way of cultivating our love first.
- 10:18SPEAKER_00: Because there's one thing you've always spoken to me, honey.
- 10:20SPEAKER_00: It's the love in the relationship that's our responsibility.
- 10:24SPEAKER_00: And I feel like when that love in the relationship is given such a deep honor, then we're each acting in ways that we can constantly cultivate that fire, that passion, that heart song that we get to share.
- 10:36SPEAKER_02: And I feel like it's even beyond responsibility, it's a steward, it is it is a stewardship, and I and I feel like when we give it the nurture, the respect, because we recognize this love that knocked on the door of your heart, on the door of my heart, it was a door that God called in for us to open.
- 11:03SPEAKER_02: Can we say yes to love?
- 11:05SPEAKER_02: And we've taken a 10-year journey, right?
- 11:07SPEAKER_02: We've gone through so many different layers, and we've come to truly come to grasp how valuable this love is because when you when you take care of this, everything else is taken care of.
- 11:22SPEAKER_02: So, and this was something that I always knew, and over the years, like it was hard for you to grasp it.
- 11:29SPEAKER_02: I feel like you had to go through many stages to to just be able to understand it.
- 11:33SPEAKER_02: And understanding takes a while sometimes in a in a in a male to to actually land in the body, to to to grasp at what level I'm trying to share.
- 11:45SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
- 11:46SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and it's beautiful that you have you have come to it, and and now you get to see, like, oh, okay, all I gotta do is take really good care of this, be a good steward of this, everything else is taken care of.
- 11:58SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
- 11:59SPEAKER_00: It's interesting in the male consciousness, the egoic brain can get so self-consumed, which I saw in myself, of the challenges that I would face.
- 12:08SPEAKER_00: And then I would get lost in them, that I won't even see what the presence is giving me the opportunity to see.
- 12:14SPEAKER_00: So for those that are listening, or even in general, when I just say conflict or challenges arising, how important to see that is an outside source that doesn't have to be brought into the relationship.
- 12:26SPEAKER_00: Even if it's happening as a trigger or a challenge, that's not as important as what is cultivating in the love that we get to share.
- 12:36SPEAKER_00: And in the love that we get to share, it's a constant uh nourishment that we get to give to each other.
- 12:44SPEAKER_00: And anything that we're doing that's not nourishing, we have to step back and saying, is this helping or assisting where we're moving in our highest love?
- 12:52SPEAKER_00: And I feel that's what's so beautiful about our relationship.
- 12:57SPEAKER_00: I feel it's beyond a relationship, it's a mission-driven gift that God has given us to really put forth what it takes to truly walk this path of love.
- 13:10SPEAKER_00: And to walk it, it's a daily discipline.
- 13:13SPEAKER_00: It's an opportunity that we have to not only meet ourselves first with God Almighty, but then allow that to be brought into the birth of what each and every day gives, because I feel like it's a new day for us to once again water that seed of love and allow that to blossom into what we see, the beautiful gifts that are constantly blooming around us.
- 13:37SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
- 13:38SPEAKER_02: I mean, it completely.
- 13:39SPEAKER_02: And I feel like, again, at different stages of our life, we have different understanding, and we're it's amazing because we're getting ready to go to our 10-year coming up in a couple months and 10 years together.
- 13:52SPEAKER_02: And remember, I don't know, do you remember?
- 13:54SPEAKER_02: Like, I would always say, Michael, look, here's this flame.
- 13:58SPEAKER_02: You're responsible for flame here.
- 14:00SPEAKER_02: I'm responsible for this flame.
- 14:02SPEAKER_02: I was like, I can't, I cannot keep that flame alive in you.
- 14:08SPEAKER_02: It's your part, like you can't keep having it be yanked out, like be go out of flame because your attention is going to this and that.
- 14:16SPEAKER_02: So it seemed like it was, you know, it was really challenging to help you see it and be persistent, persistent, persistent, not and and trust that at some point you're going to be able to understand this.
- 14:31SPEAKER_02: And it's, I feel what's so rewarding is after all these years, you've come to like finally grasp it.
- 14:38SPEAKER_02: And this is something like if for those of you who are in a relationship, don't give up on the relationship.
- 14:44SPEAKER_02: If your man can't see it, just know, you know, like Michael had to turn 50.
- 14:50SPEAKER_02: Something clicked when he turned 50.
- 14:52SPEAKER_02: We can't change nature, something like changed inside of him that all these other things click, and like there's a new man in him that has emerged.
- 15:02SPEAKER_02: So if you see your man, he's not, for example, still showing up that way, keep the vision alive, don't give up, and keep reminding him.
- 15:12SPEAKER_02: The more you remind him of who he is in God, the more that's gonna start coming in.
- 15:19SPEAKER_02: Because sometimes what happens is he's more covered with his pains and distractions and sometimes illusions, and but yet there's this greatness on the inside that wants to come up.
- 15:32SPEAKER_02: And sometimes what I've seen in some of the women that even mentor, there's this attitude, well, my man needs to be ready for me right now.
- 15:39SPEAKER_02: And I was also that, you know, the vision that I had of you coming, I thought you were completely ready.
- 15:46SPEAKER_02: Mine was I surprised that it wasn't the case until it was the journey of becoming, you know.
- 15:53SPEAKER_02: So, yeah, so don't give up, keep the faith.
- 15:57SPEAKER_02: And what I feel is important as you getting ready to leave tonight, like you're taking care of all of these little things, which is showing your responsibility, showing your care, sharing your compassion, and you're really creating this space that is communicating clearly.
- 16:14SPEAKER_02: Look, I care, I might be distance away, but I'm care.
- 16:18SPEAKER_02: Like I love that you said, Hey, my phone is gonna be next to me, call me anytime.
- 16:22SPEAKER_02: Like, I just loved all of that that you communicated.
- 16:26SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
- 16:26SPEAKER_00: I feel like it's only necessary.
- 16:28SPEAKER_02: That reassurance was so not that I need it, but it was just so it was so wonderful.
- 16:32SPEAKER_00: I understand.
- 16:33SPEAKER_00: I feel like there's a there's an act where you know both of us really want to live a life, and I feel many of us want to experience the truest, most profound level of love because when we're in that experience, it's the best sensation.
- 16:48SPEAKER_00: It's the best.
- 16:48SPEAKER_00: And so I feel and it's continuous, it's continuous, and it's overflowing, and it's overflowing.
- 16:54SPEAKER_00: No, and every moment of life we get to experience that.
- 16:58SPEAKER_00: We get to choose, we get to give our attention, and most important, we get to give our focus.
- 17:02SPEAKER_00: And so moments like this where yes, I'll be getting on a plane, flying overnight, but knowing once I land, I'll be sending a message, knowing that with international calling, the way the world works today, we can communicate in love not only through these waves, but also through our ability to know that wow, when I go to bed tonight, I'm gonna be thinking about you.
- 17:24SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna be holding my pillow like it's like you.
- 17:26SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna be visualizing that everything is moving in its highest and greatest balance.
- 17:31SPEAKER_00: And I feel like that's one thing that with couples and individuals, that they can constantly just keep the vision, keep the faith, keep the trust that it's all moving in the direction because it's a cultivation within us, and it's also placing that in action outside of us so that it intertwines this beautiful dance of love.
- 17:51SPEAKER_02: Yeah, because the old idea is out of mind, out of sight.
- 17:55SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 17:56SPEAKER_02: And so it's like I don't have to feed it, but that that is not the way to handle this kind of relationship.
- 18:04SPEAKER_02: And I feel when when when it is about this true essence of love, it is God's love.
- 18:12SPEAKER_02: So we will take care of it greater, right?
- 18:15SPEAKER_02: We'll show up better for it, and it's gonna be fun.
- 18:17SPEAKER_02: So I'm I'm so excited for your job.
- 18:19SPEAKER_02: What are you most excited about before we wrap up?
- 18:22SPEAKER_02: What is it that you're so so excited about your mom experience?
- 18:25SPEAKER_00: So, what I'm so excited about is I'm really looking forward to taking my mom to Stonehenge because I feel it's one of the eighth wonders of the world.
- 18:33SPEAKER_00: And I feel she doesn't really have a clue what she's doing because I did get the Inner Pass, which we went to, and it's only available at certain times during the year.
- 18:42SPEAKER_00: Obviously, you can book private levels, and we went at 6 a.m.
- 18:46SPEAKER_00: during the equinox, and there's just something magical when you can go to a sacred land and experience something so profound.
- 18:54SPEAKER_00: So I'm very much looking forward to that.
- 18:56SPEAKER_00: And I feel the biggest part is just giving that week of spoiling my mom with as much love as possible because we both know we love the travel.
- 19:05SPEAKER_00: And so when we love the travel and we get to share those good times, it really doesn't matter what we do, it's just having fun, not being attached to every single little thing because, as we know, we're not gonna get it all done of what we want.
- 19:18SPEAKER_00: Weather's gonna be the weather, and we're just gonna flow with it.
- 19:21SPEAKER_00: It's that feeling that knowing that you told me this, this is a lifetime opportunity to take advantage of it now.
- 19:28SPEAKER_00: And life is short.
- 19:29SPEAKER_00: So why not just have this opportunity, place it forward, and then let this be another stepping stone so that it opens up what we always know is to bring forth our highest and greatest love to the ones we love most.
- 19:42SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
- 19:43SPEAKER_02: And you know, for you guys at as our community, if your time is now, if you can give yourself the permission, like a day, two days, three days, whatever it is, to make that very special memory.
- 19:58SPEAKER_02: Maybe it's your grandparent, maybe it's your parent, maybe it's your child that is really, really like once in a lifetime, like it's so special.
- 20:08SPEAKER_02: Do it now.
- 20:09SPEAKER_02: Yeah, time is now, it's not later.
- 20:12SPEAKER_02: And that's why, and and and if you find yourself like your maybe your partner is a little uncomfortable, communicate from your heart, you know, why this is special and and why you want to do it.
- 20:26SPEAKER_02: So it's not a person.
- 20:27SPEAKER_02: For me, it wasn't it was me stepping out because I know the value of that.
- 20:34SPEAKER_02: I'm a mother, I know how special that is.
- 20:37SPEAKER_02: So, you know, I never yeah, that that's why.
- 20:41SPEAKER_02: So go ahead and communicate and and let the presence of God Almighty carry you and indulge you in a whole new experience.
- 20:50SPEAKER_00: Thank you, love.
- 20:51SPEAKER_00: I'm really grateful for your really assistance and seeing how important it is for me to travel with my mom.
- 20:58SPEAKER_00: And just what I always find is in this cultivation of love is to really support our loved ones, support their values, support their dreams, support what they want to do, because it's that support that gives that inner permission to really feel that everything is flowing in divine nature.
- 21:15SPEAKER_02: Absolutely.
- 21:16SPEAKER_02: So we have this podcast be much more shorter today.
- 21:20SPEAKER_02: We trust you enjoying it, and of course, we'll catch up with you when Michael comes back on his trip.
- 21:27SPEAKER_02: So thank you so much for being here and present with us.
- 21:30SPEAKER_02: And we look forward to hearing what decisions you made, what trips you're taking by listening to this, and also keep your love alive.
- 21:41SPEAKER_02: Yeah, feed it, nourish it, nurture it.
- 21:44SPEAKER_02: Because if you don't, it dies.
- 21:46SPEAKER_00: Live it, love it, and enjoy it.
- 21:48SPEAKER_00: That's what the true path of love is here.
- 21:51SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
- 21:51SPEAKER_02: Much love, everyone.
- 21:52SPEAKER_02: Have a beautiful, blessed day.
- 21:53SPEAKER_02: See you in the next one.