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- 0:00Hi, I'm Jay Fallon and thanks for listening to The Slippery
- 0:02Slope. So today we're going to have a
- 0:04look at one of the most consequential shifts in
- 0:07Australian criminal law in years, the move from intense
- 0:10based hate speech offences to impact based ones.
- 0:15So this isn't just a technical tweak, it changes who can be
- 0:19prosecuted, what counts as criminal speech and how everyday
- 0:23online expression might be interpreted under the law.
- 0:27Let's go with the red light on. I'm just waiting for the.
- 0:35Change. So you've got what the old world
- 0:40was Intent was everything. For decades, Australia's federal
- 0:44hate speech framework was built around a simple idea.
- 0:48You had to mean it. If prosecutors wanted to charge
- 0:51someone, they had to prove the person intended to incite
- 0:55violence. Not that someone felt offended,
- 1:00but that the Speaker wanted violence to occur or knew it was
- 1:04likely. That's a high bar, and
- 1:06intentionally so. Criminal law traditionally
- 1:09punishes deliberate wrongdoing, but the new legislation changes
- 1:15that. Under the new federal offence,
- 1:17the threshold drops dramatically.
- 1:20Now it's a crime to publicly incite or promote hatred toward
- 1:24a group based on race, colour, national origin or ethnic
- 1:29origin. The maximum penalty is five
- 1:32years in prison. But the real shift isn't the
- 1:35penalty, it's the mental element, Or rather, the lack of
- 1:391. The law no longer asks what did
- 1:43the speaker intend? Instead, it asks what would a
- 1:48reasonable person in the targeted group feel?
- 1:53That's a profound change. So let's we've got to unpack the
- 1:57reasonable person test a little. The new standard is based on
- 2:01whether a hypothetical reasonable member of the
- 2:04targeted group would feel intimidated, threatened, or
- 2:08hated. Not the speaker's mindset, the
- 2:13speaker's motive, the speaker's awareness, but the impact of the
- 2:17speech. Viewed objectively.
- 2:21This is a familiar test and civil anti vilification law, but
- 2:25applying it to criminal offenses is a major escalation.
- 2:30So the shift raises several big questions.
- 2:34You've got to look at what happens to heated political
- 2:37debate. Political speech is often sharp,
- 2:40emotional, confrontational, under an impact.
- 2:43By standard, the line between strong criticism and promoting
- 2:47hatred becomes harder to predict.
- 2:51You also have to look at what about comedy, satire, or
- 2:54academic discussion. Context always matters, but
- 2:59context is also subjective. A joke in a comedy club might be
- 3:04fine, but you might take the same joke, clip it and post it
- 3:08online and it might not be. Then you've got to look at what
- 3:12about online frustration? We've seen that over the last
- 3:15couple of years. There was plenty of that going
- 3:17on while the dreaded flu was going around.
- 3:22You know, a late night rants. We remember people getting on
- 3:25late at night ranting about the behaviours of different people.
- 3:29So you might have a late night rant, a sarcastic comment or a
- 3:33poorly phrased post could be interpreted very differently by
- 3:37different audiences. You'd have to ask yourself, is
- 3:41this going to create a chilling effect?
- 3:44When I say that, I mean people. People don't know.
- 3:47When the people don't know where the line is, they tend to stay
- 3:52far away from it. That's the classic chilling
- 3:55effect. You have self censorship.
- 3:57Censorship driven by legal uncertainty.
- 4:01So let's look at how courts will likely approach it.
- 4:06Courts won't treat this like a feelings based offence.
- 4:09They'll apply structured reasoning, or at least they
- 4:12should. So they'll look at context,
- 4:15tone, audience, platform. Whether the speech was
- 4:19political, artistic, comedic, or academic, they won't consider,
- 4:26or at least they shouldn't be considering the reactions of
- 4:29unusually sensitive individuals, the speaker's personal intent,
- 4:35and less the statute requires it.
- 4:37Still, the shift from intent to impact means more speech falls
- 4:42within the zone of potential criminality.
- 4:47Australia isn't alone in wrestling with this.
- 4:50Canada usually requires intent or knowledge.
- 4:53The UK often requires intent or recklessness.
- 4:56Germany criminalizes certain forms of hate speech without
- 5:00requiring intent. But the categories are narrower
- 5:03and historically specific. So Australia's new approach is
- 5:06unusual, but it applies an impact based standard to a broad
- 5:12category of hatred, not just historically defined harms.
- 5:18So the bottom line is this, this is one of the most significant
- 5:20shifts in Australia's speech laws, speech law in decades.
- 5:25The new offence lowers the threshold from violence to
- 5:28hatred, removes the need to prove intent, relies on an
- 5:34impact based reasonable person test, applies to online speech
- 5:40including posts, comments and videos, which I think is
- 5:44probably going to be one of the most problematic areas of this
- 5:50new piece of legislation. Supporters say this is necessary
- 5:55to combat rising hate and extremism.
- 5:58Critics warn it risks overreach and could chill legitimate
- 6:02debates. That's where I think it's going.
- 6:05Both sides agree on one thing. This is a major change and it's
- 6:09real world impact will depend on our prosecutors and courts
- 6:14choose to apply it, which is where I believe we are going to
- 6:21get into some real trouble in the very near future given the
- 6:27attitude and the let's say the beliefs of some of our
- 6:33politicians and judges and people within law enforcement.
- 6:38Anyway, this is just my update for you all my opinion that last
- 6:45little bits. Thank you for listening to The
- 6:47Slippery Slope. My name is Jay Fallon.
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