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Mac & Bone Hour 1: Hornets Start Summer League With a Win · Mac & Bone Podcast

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  Speaker 1: When come on sty Oh is Mac and Boa.
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  Speaker 2: You guys are the most entertaining sports program in the world.
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  Speaker 3: Bone, No, no, stop talking. You and I are a
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  Speaker 3: couple eating like lady in the tramp. You're the lady
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  Speaker 3: on the tram.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, come on, baby.
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  Speaker 3: I was boopy boopy McLean Man's name. Oh the bud
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  Speaker 3: You are listening alive. I was trying out my Brett Musburger.
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  Speaker 3: There you're listening to the Mac and Boat Show year,
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  Speaker 3: last day of the week, the last Fitty and Bone. Addition,
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  Speaker 3: getting rave reviews by the way, Uh, well, we're getting reviews.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if they're rare, but there are a
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  Speaker 3: lot of reviews out there for what we're doing. Mac
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  Speaker 3: one bore day out. We hope he's enjoyed the cruise.
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  Speaker 3: Today we're going to talk about what we saw the
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  Speaker 3: good and the bad in the Hornet summer debut last night.
• 1:01
  Speaker 3: The Braves win last night, and a potential trade target
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  Speaker 3: for them emerges. It's list season, it's ranking season. There's
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  Speaker 3: some good, there's some bad for the Panthers, and Fiddy
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  Speaker 3: has a list today involving college football coaches can't wait
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  Speaker 3: to hear that. But well, what was I gonna say, Fitty.
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  Speaker 3: I was gonna I had a big conclusion there, but
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  Speaker 3: I forgot what it was. So I just said to
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  Speaker 3: word butt for no reason at all, and it said,
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  Speaker 3: but but I'm a little bit out of sorts right now.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot going on, Fiddy that you don't know
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  Speaker 3: about in my life today as a dog parent. Very
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  Speaker 3: stressful morning for old Uncle Boebone over here this morning.
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  Speaker 2: Murphy giving you a hard time on the way out
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  Speaker 2: the door.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, you know. It's cleaning day today. Every other Friday,
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  Speaker 3: the cleaning folks come in Casa Deve Bone gets the
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  Speaker 3: cleaning treatment. Today is the first time that they will
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  Speaker 3: meet Murphy, and Murphy will beat them. He's created. But
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  Speaker 3: I don't trust. I don't trust any of this because
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  Speaker 3: this dude has a plan. This dude, my new bulldog, Murphy,
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  Speaker 3: He's always got a plan. So he's either gonna get out.
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  Speaker 3: I'm afraid he's either gonna hold this cleaning crew hostage
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  Speaker 3: at treat point. I don't know what may happen today,
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  Speaker 3: but I'm very stressed out cleaning crew, Murphy. I'm just
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  Speaker 3: gonna tell you right now, this is gonna cost me
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  Speaker 3: some money what wout the other And I mean that
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  Speaker 3: like above the cleaning fees.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and there may be an extra tip or two.
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  Speaker 4: You have to throw the cleaning folks his way.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is uh he's created. But he's just right
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  Speaker 3: there in the way too, so they're gonna have to
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  Speaker 3: clean around him. I'm in an apartment, but there's only
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  Speaker 3: so many places I can put this crate, and they
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  Speaker 3: avoid him, He's gonna be right there. He's gonna be whining. Ah,
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  Speaker 3: this is gonna be.
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  Speaker 2: At some point.
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  Speaker 4: You're gonna have to invest in a doggy camera and
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  Speaker 4: be able to check in on him and talk to
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  Speaker 4: him through the camera whenever you're away on days like
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  Speaker 4: today to try to settle him down.
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  Speaker 3: You just want that for content, tell you, I actually
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  Speaker 3: think it's a great idea.
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  Speaker 4: When I lived at the Marlow Mansion, we had we
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  Speaker 4: had a doggy camera and my cousin she would check
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  Speaker 4: in on the dogs whenever the cleaning people would come
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  Speaker 4: to her house or if they if they ever just
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  Speaker 4: you know, we're barking like she was, she could figure
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  Speaker 4: out if they were trying to do something, and then
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  Speaker 4: she could talk to them. It's kind of odd, Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: whenever you're not like when you're not home or she's
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  Speaker 4: not home, and you would hear the voice talking to
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  Speaker 4: the dogs because you would think she is home. Well,
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  Speaker 4: she's talking through the camera. This might be your next
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  Speaker 4: dog investment is getting the camera to keep your eyes
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  Speaker 4: on Murphy at all time.
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  Speaker 3: The murfcam the uh, we should get a sponsor for
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  Speaker 3: the murf cam here. I will be in Nashville at
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  Speaker 3: the end of next week. So normally our mutual friend
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  Speaker 3: Ali would watch like Mabel for example, but she's got
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  Speaker 3: a lot going on and I don't think she wants
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  Speaker 3: to undertake the task of watching Murphy. So he's going
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  Speaker 3: to a pet resort next week in Huntersville. And he
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  Speaker 3: got charged extra for the resort because he is part
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  Speaker 3: of the ice cream Truck club, meaning that each day
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  Speaker 3: the ice cream truck comes by and feeds him. So
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  Speaker 3: he's looking forward to that next week.
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  Speaker 4: After two what I would consider uh the executive stays
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  Speaker 4: at the McLean Household that have been a rousing success,
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  Speaker 4: where Rocket and Bacon have pretty taken much to like me,
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  Speaker 4: rocking and I sleep together every single night.
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  Speaker 3: Babs, Does that mean the streak is still over?
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  Speaker 4: No? Unfortunately, the streak is still going Bacon and I
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  Speaker 4: like to go to the bathroom together.
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  Speaker 3: Really, so is that like him following you or you
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  Speaker 3: following him? Yes, a little bit about Okay, all right, son.
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  Speaker 4: You didn't even he didn't even ask me if I
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  Speaker 4: wanted to take Murphy under my wing.
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  Speaker 2: You didn't even ask. And I'm hurt.
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  Speaker 4: I'm broken, and I think this is going to cause
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  Speaker 4: a divide in the front shop.
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  Speaker 3: You just want to get out of Mama's place and
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  Speaker 3: stay in my place for a week, is what you
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  Speaker 3: want to do?
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean that I'm tired of my mom all already.
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  Speaker 3: Do you provide ice cream for Murphy?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: Thether thing I can provide, it's tree. So we got
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  Speaker 3: to treat last night, Fitty. And that is the Hornets
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  Speaker 3: Summer League debut last night. Look, we're gonna do a
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  Speaker 3: full assessment next segment of the good, the bat and
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  Speaker 3: the ugly, but just the overall vibe last night, uh,
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  Speaker 3: Summer League like in the first half, very much so
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  Speaker 3: horrible shooting a slog to say the least. But the
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  Speaker 3: one thing you're not gonna do, Fitty, that we weren't
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  Speaker 3: last year. You're not gonna count out the Summer League
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  Speaker 3: Hornets as the winning continues last night against Orlando.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it wasn't the cleanest or the prettiest first half.
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  Speaker 4: That's that summer league basketball in a nutshell. I was
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  Speaker 4: interested though, to see how they would respond because for
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  Speaker 4: to be summer league action.
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  Speaker 2: Bone.
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  Speaker 4: In the media availability they had at Spectrum Center before
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  Speaker 4: they made their way out to Vegas, I mean, they
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  Speaker 4: were talking about what the expectation was, like. I don't
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  Speaker 4: think there's ever been a franchise to embrace defending a
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  Speaker 4: summer league title. The Hornets may be the first to
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  Speaker 4: ever be that franchise. They didn't come out and play
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  Speaker 4: the way you maybe would have wanted to see them
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  Speaker 4: play in that in that first half. They use a
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  Speaker 4: fourteen to two run to pretty much take control of
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  Speaker 4: the game midway through the second half, and they go
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  Speaker 4: on to to.
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  Speaker 2: Get the win rather comfortably.
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  Speaker 4: Two things stood out to me from a non Hornous perspective.
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  Speaker 4: There's absolutely absolutely no need for the NBA to adopt
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  Speaker 4: the free throw rule they're using in the Summer League.
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  Speaker 4: Make the guys shoot the free throws us that's what's
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  Speaker 4: slowing the games down.
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  Speaker 3: You'll probably explain what that is right, so with the people,
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  Speaker 3: because I don't think it was even was even was
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  Speaker 3: it even brought up on the broadcast last night.
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  Speaker 2: They they didn't mention it as much as they should have.
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  Speaker 4: When you saw a lot of like when you had
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  Speaker 4: a over the foul limit foul and it was one
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  Speaker 4: free throw when two points went up on the board,
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  Speaker 4: I thought that had been a great time for I
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  Speaker 4: think Michael Grady was to play by play guy or
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  Speaker 4: stand van Gunny to explain what was going on.
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  Speaker 3: So they're they're trying to cut down on the time.
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  Speaker 3: And if you get foul shooting a three, for example,
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  Speaker 3: you get one foul shot, you make it. That equals
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  Speaker 3: three foul shots, right, three makes If you get a
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  Speaker 3: foul shooting to two, same thing, you get one foul shot,
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  Speaker 3: you make it, you get to two.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: That's how it's operating.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And there's just absolutely no need for that. And
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  Speaker 4: the way the gym emptied out for the Hornets game
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  Speaker 4: I thought was disrespectful. Consider these are the defending champions.
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  Speaker 4: I thought, the people in Vegas, what else do you
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  Speaker 4: have better to do? At they played at seven thirty
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  Speaker 4: four thirty on a Thursday afternoon, sit there and watch
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  Speaker 4: the summer league champions play summer league basketball.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the problem with that is they don't have time
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  Speaker 3: in Vegas. They have no idea what I mean. They
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  Speaker 3: some of those people haven't swept in about four days,
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  Speaker 3: so they have no idea. They just wander into games
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  Speaker 3: and they think it's like, you know, some casino type event.
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  Speaker 3: Can I give you an issue that I had last
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  Speaker 3: night and again Hornet's win last night eighty six seventy
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  Speaker 3: four over Orlando. We will get into the individual stuff
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  Speaker 3: next segment, including a ridiculous performance from Liam McNeely that
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  Speaker 3: makes us wonder, hey, what can this guy be? In
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  Speaker 3: year number two? There was some negative with a returning
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  Speaker 3: player and the rookies. I thought, I thought one looked
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  Speaker 3: the part and one a little bit concerned about. So
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  Speaker 3: we will handle that in the next segment. But we
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  Speaker 3: still have not got the full trades that have gone
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  Speaker 3: through yet. Bridges and Mellow and we talked to Walker
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  Speaker 3: Mail yesterday about the reasons why we are now into
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  Speaker 3: a league wide event. We are now into a summer
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  Speaker 3: league where the coaches are out there, the gms are
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  Speaker 3: out there, they're talking to players, they're talking to Sean
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  Speaker 3: Sweeney from Orlando. They're talking to people around the league.
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  Speaker 3: They had Kobe White on interview yesterday. They're asking him
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  Speaker 3: about the trades and he's sort of working around it.
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  Speaker 3: At some point, can we perhaps maybe get these things
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  Speaker 3: done before we do this big media event that surrounds
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  Speaker 3: these games, because you're putting all these guys out there
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  Speaker 3: yet no one can really talk about it yet because
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  Speaker 3: they're not official yet. Yeah, it's just hell. Royce O'Neil
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  Speaker 3: was out there last night.
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  Speaker 2: But you can't. You can't talk about Royce.
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  Speaker 3: Why you're here? Well, I just I just want no
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  Speaker 3: he didn't say that, But the point is, can we
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  Speaker 3: not get these things done and speed it up before
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  Speaker 3: Summer League? So maybe, because that's why last night they
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  Speaker 3: talked to Sean Sweeney, but they couldn't talk to Charles
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  Speaker 3: Lee and Jeff Peterson because they can't talk about it.
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  Speaker 3: Can they talk about it at some point? Please? My god?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, because you're looking at now like Jeff Peterson's not
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  Speaker 4: going to hold a press conference in Vegas to address
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  Speaker 4: the moves that he's made. Trading away LaMelo Ball, trading
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  Speaker 4: away Miles Bridges. Summer League is almost what a two
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  Speaker 4: week affair so you're talking about it's going to be
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  Speaker 4: to the mid part end of July before he probably
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  Speaker 4: even holds a press conference bone to address the trades.
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  Speaker 4: Guess what we'll be talking about. By then, We'll be
• 10:17
  Speaker 4: in full blown Panthers training camp. We'll be right in
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  Speaker 4: the heart of gearing up for college football, and it's like,
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  Speaker 4: we'll have to kind of remind ourselves, Oh yeah, by
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  Speaker 4: the way, the GM that made these trades, that senting
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  Speaker 4: this fan base into a frizzy for a few weeks,
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  Speaker 4: hasn't even talked about it. It's it's it's not a
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  Speaker 4: good optic. And then I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Why also when you have because it leads to it
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  Speaker 3: leads to people thinking, oh, what's going on? Is it
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  Speaker 3: someone didn't fit. It's not the failed physical stuff, it's
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  Speaker 3: just the no, there's just so many things. There's too
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  Speaker 3: many moving parts you've.
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  Speaker 4: Got because you know this two team trade is becoming
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  Speaker 4: a five team trade, but you got to wait for
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  Speaker 4: certain deadlines and certain dates for the people that are
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  Speaker 4: gonna be involved to be moved. And it's it's just
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  Speaker 4: not a good optic for the league. It's it's for
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  Speaker 4: as much as they're they're trying to be in the
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  Speaker 4: news cycle twenty four to seven, and they're trying to
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  Speaker 4: generate the content the NFL generates when the NFL. The
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  Speaker 4: NFL will tell you, Okay, the trade is accepted now,
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  Speaker 4: but it will become official June first, July fifth, whatever the.
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  Speaker 3: Day, do not much after.
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  Speaker 4: That's it And guess what was when we get to
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  Speaker 4: that date bone it becomes official? Both teams are not
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  Speaker 4: a press release, there's a press conference.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you're not wondering what's going on?
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  Speaker 4: Could you imagine being a twelve year old Hornets fan
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  Speaker 4: and you don't know why you haven't seen like LaMelo
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  Speaker 4: Ball be introduced as a timberwolf, or why you haven't
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  Speaker 4: seen Miles Bridges be introduced as a Phoenix sun Like
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  Speaker 4: you're probably thinking, all these guys might sup on my team.
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  Speaker 4: These trades didn't happen. No, they've happened. We're just waiting
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  Speaker 4: three months with them to process.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, are these things get awfully complex? I would expect
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  Speaker 3: today that we'll probably hear some stuff. I mean, at
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  Speaker 3: some point we gotta we can't go into another weekend
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  Speaker 3: and not not here.
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  Speaker 2: Something that's not good either.
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  Speaker 4: BO you want this going coming official going into the
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  Speaker 4: weekend where there's gonna be no one here. We gotta
• 12:19
  Speaker 4: wait until Monday to react to what maybe is said
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  Speaker 4: about it.
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  Speaker 3: Do you know how much talking Sam Farber's want to
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  Speaker 3: do right now? My god, let my man loose, Please
• 12:28
  Speaker 3: let Farbar loose. He wants to talk about these trades,
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  Speaker 3: and you can't. You're holding the farm dogged down and
• 12:33
  Speaker 3: you don't do that around here. A team that was
• 12:35
  Speaker 3: not held down. Yesterday, the Atlanta Braves get a win
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  Speaker 3: over the Pirates to conclude that series. They got four
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  Speaker 3: in the ninth to win that game. They did not
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  Speaker 3: pick up any ground though, or separate it all from
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  Speaker 3: the Phillies or the Marlins. Phillies won one nothing, marwins
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  Speaker 3: blew out the Mariners. Marlins are just absolutely rolling. It
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  Speaker 3: will be Atlanta going to Saint Louis this weekend against
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  Speaker 3: pretty good Saint Louis team, but not great. Phillies will
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  Speaker 3: play Detroit. Miami will be taken on Cleveland. So that's
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  Speaker 3: the last series before the All Star break. Did not
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  Speaker 3: think we would have to update who the other teams
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  Speaker 3: in that division are playing at this point, but that's
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  Speaker 3: the situation. The Braves find themselves, and there's also rumors
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  Speaker 3: despite the Red Sox getting somehow hot lately, they've won
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  Speaker 3: fourteen of eighteen. With the trade deadline coming up end
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: of this month, there's reports out there that the Braves
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: have interest in Sonny Gray, who's having a great year,
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: did not make the All Star Game, but having a
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  Speaker 3: great year for the Red Sox. That would make a
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  Speaker 3: lot of sense because the Braves do need to add
• 13:48
  Speaker 3: stuff on that roster, including their rotation. If he thoughts
• 13:51
  Speaker 3: on Sonny Gray, who always seems to be good but
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  Speaker 3: always on the trade block.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that does seem to be the narrative that does
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  Speaker 4: exist around you mentioned Boston. They've won fourteen of eighteen,
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  Speaker 4: They're currently on a six game winning streak, eight and
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  Speaker 4: two in their last ten. They're forty three and forty eight,
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  Speaker 4: but they are just two and a half games out
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  Speaker 4: of the final wildcard spot in the American League.
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  Speaker 2: You know how bad the AL.
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  Speaker 3: Is this year, so they they may not.
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  Speaker 2: It feels like, you know.
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  Speaker 4: The two weeks after the All Star break will probably
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  Speaker 4: determine the availability of Sunny Gray, because I do think
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  Speaker 4: I think if Boston finds themselves in wildcard position, I
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: don't know necessarily if they're going to be sellers, and
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  Speaker 4: you look down at you. As you mentioned the Phillies
• 14:38
  Speaker 4: and the Marlins, those are the final two teams in
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  Speaker 4: the National League wildcard race. They both have three games
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: up on the Cardinals, who the Braves play. As you
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: said this weekend, the Nationals four games out of a
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  Speaker 4: wildcard spot. The Marlins thirty one and seventeen at home,
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  Speaker 4: so one of the best home teams, despite their not
• 14:58
  Speaker 4: being a legitimate environment more often than not at their ballpark,
• 15:02
  Speaker 4: one of the best home teams in all of Major
• 15:04
  Speaker 4: League Baseball. And their run differential is plus thirty one,
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  Speaker 4: so they play a lot of close games.
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  Speaker 2: They win a lot of close games.
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  Speaker 4: And this is I think this is the downside bone
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  Speaker 4: to the new scheduling format where you only play your
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: division teams thirteen times where you used to play them
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  Speaker 4: nineteen times. Yeah, like maybe it might it might benefit
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  Speaker 4: the Braves that they only play thirteen times, but I
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: do think that's something where when you have these tight races,
• 15:34
  Speaker 4: that's where I'm a fan of the old schedule, where
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: I think the back half of the season, post All
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  Speaker 4: Star play, should be a lot of inner division playing,
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  Speaker 4: and that's no longer the case. When this everybody plays, everybody.
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  Speaker 4: Major League Baseball.
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  Speaker 3: Certainly should be interesting second half of the season, last
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  Speaker 3: series now before the All Star break and an All
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: Star Game coming up on Tuesday, when we come back.
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  Speaker 3: First of all, actually before we come back, being called
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: out by a band name Breasticles on the on the
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  Speaker 3: text line, which is not what you want, not ideal, right,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, come on, he's saying I'm lazy because people
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  Speaker 3: clean my apartment. If you maybe that's fine. I just look,
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  Speaker 3: I don't like cleaning, so if I can do it,
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  Speaker 3: I can do it like whatever. It's lazy, Yeah, you're fine,
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  Speaker 3: You're right it is. I don't care. They offer a service,
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  Speaker 3: they come in and clean. O. Don't whatever, Breasticles. I
• 16:24
  Speaker 3: think you've got more problems going by the name Breasticles
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  Speaker 3: than I have about who's cleaning my apartment.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think anyone enjoys cleaning.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's not. I hate it.
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  Speaker 4: So if you have the financial means to pay a
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  Speaker 4: service to come like I would do the I get
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  Speaker 4: exhausted folding laundry. Yeah, I couldn't imagine having to vacuum
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  Speaker 4: the floors, mop the kitchen, wipe down the counters, clean
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  Speaker 4: the oven.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: No, and I do it because if it's on me,
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: I get too far behind and then it just becomes
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: even worse. So Nope, this is my new routine. I've
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: started here recently. When we come back on the Mac
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: and Bone Show, Full Summer League Reaction, the Good, the Bad,
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: and the seon playing point Guard Sports Radio ninety two
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: seven WFNZ. Liam, you had seventeen points in that first half?
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: What was working so well for you personally?
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: I would say, my big so are setting me up
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: on They're sending really good screens and wow, I'm gonna
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: get some separation. And look, this is something that you
• 17:36
  Speaker 5: know very well winning the Summer.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: League last year.
• 17:39
  Speaker 5: How do you guys get it done this time around?
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: I would say, the returners, we got to be great
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: leaders and kind of set the tone for the new guys.
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: We haven't done a great job of that, and that's
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: why we're down.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: There.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: He is.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: That's the voice of Liam McNeely, who had an outstanding
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: performance last night for the Hornets, twenty eight points on
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: seven for eight from three part. Looked like you expect
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: a second year guy. That was a first round pick
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: to look in his second time out there in Vegas.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: I can't say enough about how smooth he was that shot. Look,
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: he Fitty is a little bit of a forgotten man,
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: I think here because of all the trade talk and
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: the guys that are going out, all the roster stuff
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: we're talking about here, and Miller and con being the guys.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: McNeely was thought when he entered college to be a
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: you know, a lottery top ten guy. He didn't have
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: necessarily because the injuries the year that we thought fell
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: to the back end of the first round. But this
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: guy was a premier talent not long ago. He showed
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: that last night, and man, if they can get something
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: out of him, well, I don't know if it's an
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: Apple comparison, but can he do the instant offense, shooting
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: off the bench like a like a Duncan Robinson has found.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Can he just you don't need him to be a
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: do everything guy, but if he can stretch the floor
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: and be a threat with that shot, that's something that
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: I don't think we've factored in too much to the
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: roster equation.
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, when you think about how can Liam McNeely be
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: a part of a reimagined Hornet's roster next year, No
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: Lamela Ball, no Miles Bridges. It's gonna be Can he
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: shoot thirty seven thirty eight percent from behind the three
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: point line and just hold.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: His own defensively?
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: I think what you like about him is if you
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: know his background from his time at Yukon, he does
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: have an edge to him. He's a competitor. I think
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: he's a great locker room guy. He's a great second
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: unit guy. Last year, with how that roster kind of
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: you know, played itself out, just wasn't a consistent role
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: for him on a.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Night in, night out basis.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: There's an opportunity opportunity for him now to carve out
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: a role. And you know, last night he goes for
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: twenty eight points, nine of eighteen from the field, seven
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: of eight from behind the three point line, was a
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: plus nine on the floor. Obviously, that seven of eight
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: from behind the three point is not going to be
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: there every single night. Yeah, But if he can be
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: that sort of efficient bone and be a fifty percent shooter,
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: as I mentioned, thirty seven thirty eight percent from behind
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: the arc, I do think there's a much larger role
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: for him to have in his sophomore season as opposed
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: to his rookie year.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: He also had four assists last night. Uh so you
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: know he was moving the ball. I wonder if he's
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: going to play a whole lot more in the summer league.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: You never know. When the guy has that type of
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: performance that he's in year number two, you know, does
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: he does he keep going or is that going to
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: be it for him? We shall find out some more
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: on the positives last night. Hanna Steinbach his first go
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: little bit of a slow start there in the first half,
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: really picked up as Kalkbrenner did in the second half.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: But Hanna Steinbach fifteen points in eleven rebounds and two
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: assists in twenty two minutes. When you look at his
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: film and his numbers from Washington, he's a guy that
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: just collects numbers while he's out there to average what
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: he did for a poor team at Washington nearly eighteen
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: and twelve last night. You see the activity and how
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: active he is on the boards. To me, I'm trying
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: to think of hornets of the past that he reminds
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: me of. He is a much more fluid and offensive
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: minded Cody Zeller. I would say there's there's that attack rebound,
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: physical mentality. I was really impressed with Steinbloch last night.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: Maybe not gonna be a star per se, but you
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: could see the vision with him.
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, fifteen points, eleven rebounds, as you mentioned, in twenty
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: two minutes, and he was a plus minus thirteen on
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: the floor last night, tied for the best of any
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: Hornet translation bone that'll play like I know what's summer,
• 22:03
  Speaker 4: but fifteen and eleven and and just under twenty two
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: minutes of court time. He had a couple sequences where
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: he just kind of came out of nowhere and those
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: big oven mits just grabbed the ball and you can
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: just see where he has a knack for obviously how
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: to position himself, but also I'm gonna go get it.
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: I saw Walker tweet out, you saw some of the
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: driving ability for him as well. Is he gonna be
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: a starter for the Hornets next year?
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: No?
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: Is he gonna be a consistent night in, night out
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: player for the Hornets? I think that answer is absolutely.
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: And if he's gonna rebound the ball the way he
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: did in college, the way he did last night, that'll
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: that'll be something that will impact whatever level of winning
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: this Hornets team does achieve.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Next season.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Some other observations from last night. I know that Ryan
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: Calpreter didn't have the best first half. I don't really
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: we kind of know who he is. I don't really
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: think we have to analyze him too much. Ryan kyp
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: Brenner is what he is. He played a lot last year.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: See On James is another guy that a lot of
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: people are coming after today, and I get it. He
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: did not play well, especially when they were trying to
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: utilize him as the point guard that it did work
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: for Duke a couple of years ago, kind of until
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: the end against Houston when they were trying to get
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: things organized really and they could have looked Seon is
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: what he is. He's not a point guard. But I'm
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: not going to freak out because last night he didn't
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: play well. They were it's like spring training in baseball
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: when guys are working on stuff. They were trying to
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: get him on the point guard spot and see what
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: he can do. It didn't work out. I read a
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: stat yesterday that he was the number one rookie in
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: perimeter defense on ISOs, So that tells you what he is.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: He's uh, you know, he's that physical off ball lou
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: Door If he's opening the corner. It's improved his game
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: for okay, see shooting wise, but he's that guy. He's
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: not He's not a point guard. He could bring it
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: up if he needs to in a pinch, but no,
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: they were just seeing last night what he can do.
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm not freaking out about it by some
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: people are.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: If there's anything you want to be concerned about, I
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: wanted to address this from from Calk Printer first. Okay,
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: was I did feel like bone there was a lot
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: of times he was getting bumped off his spot and
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: believe it or not, in the wfn Z producer group chat,
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: Smoked Ludwick showed up complaining about the officiating and the
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: level of physicality that the Magic were getting away with
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: in a some.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Of your game.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: If you're complaining about the referees in a summer league game,
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: I mean it's it's basically it's a backyard street fight.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: How about Penda yesterday he had thirty seven fouls for Orlando.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: He did, but I.
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: Did think that was maybe eye opening. Was just how
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: much more strength and conditioning. Caulk Printer needs to really
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: be the type a big man we want to need
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: him to be. There was just so many times I
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: felt like he would gather and he finished with ten
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: and nine, but it felt like he initially got bumped
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: off his spot there. When you look at sea On James,
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: I thought, I thought, you know his struggles stand band.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: Gunny pointed out, We're just a reflection of playing with
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: a summer league roster. It was not a reflection of
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: who he was in the regular season. When checks notes
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: bone he played in all eighty two games and was
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: a big part of that.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Second time.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: He's a role guy. He's not gonna be a star,
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: and I think that on this particular level of play.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: It sometimes these games suit certain guys for him to
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: be on the ball offensively, it's just not the point
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: guard play normally in these things is kind of rough anyway,
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: to be honest, It's tough to get these guys organized
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: and used to each other in a short period of time.
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: I do have one concern, Fitty about something we saw
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: last night. Look, we knew coming in that Christian Anderson
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: from Texas Tech. We knew he was small, and sometimes
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: when you see guys go from college to the pros,
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: like Reed Shepherd was that way for me from Kentucky
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: to Houston. When he hit the NBA, I was like, Oh,
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: he looked bigger in college. I don't know if it's
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: just the guys he was playing with last night. It
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: was noticeable really how small Anderson is and it felt
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: like at times he got like swallowed up. Yeah. He
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: I knew he was small. I didn't know he would
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: look that small. And my concern is, yeah, I think
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: he can get his offense and get his shots off.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be interesting how they utilize him on defense
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: against some bigger guards. When you look at if you're
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: wanting him to be a big part, and obviously where
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: he was picked, you do. I mean, if he's got
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: a match up against some bigger dudes, like, that's gonna
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: be a problem.
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: I think, Yeah, Look, he was drafted where he was
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: drafted because of the ability to shoot the perimeter shot.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: You know, he shot over forty percent from behind the
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: three point line last year at Texas Tech. We don't
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: have much Charles Lee and this Hornets organization values three
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: point shooting.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: You're gonna have to hide him defensively.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: And no doubt, and that's what he got, not that
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: anybody can guard like the Shay Gildess, Alexanders. But think
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: about some of these bigger guards with you know, when
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: you're playing San Antonio, and how big their backwork can be.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: If it's not Fox and I'm talking about some of
• 27:28
  Speaker 3: these other if he has to be out there against
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: some of these bigger guys, that you're gonna have to
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: hide him somehow.
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there were just sometimes it felt like bone even
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: when he was like initiating the pick and roll and
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: let's just say they blitzed it and they tried to
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: trap him coming, it felt like you just couldn't see him,
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: like you almost had to be like what happened there?
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Where? Where did he go?
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: I think for him, how he's gonna the adjustment I
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: think he's gonna have to make from college to the
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: pro game to get shots off, and he's gonna have
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: to learn and become excellent moving without the ball, yep,
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: and become a guy that they're just running baseline, the
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: baseline off of screen.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: Those tough buggets. He got a Texas tag. We saw
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: him against Duke.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, those aren't gonna be there in the NBA.
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: Tried a couple last night, a couple of fataways, and
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: it wasn't there last night.
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: So the thing is is that I think very highly
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: of him.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: Graham Castle on his head coach, joined KB yesterday and
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: obviously was very positive about him as well. But that
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: will be an adjustment for him at the NBA level.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: He's not gonna be a difference maker with the ball
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: in his hands. If he's gonna shoot the type of
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: percentages he want to shoot from the three point line,
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: he's gonna have to become an off ball, catch and
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: shoot guy because the size does matter, and the lack
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: of size he has was apparent last night in summer league.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: We're going be more apparent when you get into an
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: NBA regular season.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Let's here fitty from Graham macastle and the head coach
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: of Texas tag. What did you say? We let's play
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: the one about why he's a perfect fit for the Hornets.
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: This is Red Raiders head coach Graha McCaslin on The
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: Kyle Bailey Show yesterday on Christian Anderson.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Christian being an elite shooter, but I think the most
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: underrated part of him is just how he can make
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: the most difficult things seem simple in the way that
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: he moves to basketball. I think people at first will say, hey,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: you know, what's his ceiling? And then I think as
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: he plays more, people will start to see that they're
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: really there. Really isn't one foreign I mean, he really
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: is capable of leading people in a way that makes
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: people better. But he's got a clutch gene to him.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: When the moments are big, he can make big shots
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: and he's not afraid and believes in himself. I mean,
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: he's done it with Germany basketball. He's done it with us.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: We've had the best three year Big twelve run and
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: set the record for the most threes made in the
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: season every year he's been with us, and he broke
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: the record this year. Unfortunately, there was a guy that
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: made one hundred and twenty it also broke it, but
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: he also but he also broke the assists record this year.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, he's a one of one. And I'm
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: so excited for Charlotte because I think it's such a
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: great He'll be great early, but I think he's special
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: in the long run.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, there are there are things to like
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: that that Fitty broke down, but it is it is
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: going to be interesting how he's utilized. Uh, there's gonna
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: have to be some scheming in some coaching when it
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: comes to the defensive side of the basketball. For Charles
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: Lee and Christian Anderson another guy last night, year three
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: for T John Salon, fiddy, are we we know that
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: he looks bigger? He he still has those moments where
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: there's Tasmanian devil like stuff where he you know, he's
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: all gas, no breaks, and he worried that he he
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: needs he needs a break job at the local uh
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: local uh car place. Are we what do we make
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: of him right now? I still not only as a player,
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: but with all these guys on this roster that are
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: here or will be here that we know right now
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: at the forward spot, there's a lot of dudes. Man,
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: there's Royce O'Neil, there's Dorian Finney Smith, there's Grant William,
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: there's all the center dudes. Like, where does T John
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: fit into all this?
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: Right now?
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: Greensboro still either in the G League or on a
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: different NBA roster. But how many times when watching T
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: John Salon, do does he do something and your first
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: reaction is, damn, that was impressive. He played some really
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: good on ball defense. Yeah, when he got switched onto
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: guards that I thought was really impressive, And that's probably
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: his value at this point is what he can be
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: as a as a defender, especially on ball at his size.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: But there are other times where I just find myself
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: asking what the hell is he doing and.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Why is he?
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: Like?
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Why am I watching you try to play basketball at
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: this level.
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: I'm not gonna hold this against Jeff Peterson when he
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: drafted him sixth overall.
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: It wasn't a great You look at that draft and it
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: was a very bad draft. It wasn't a great It's
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: not a great draft.
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: I I'm no longer in the camp of like wanting
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: to see this all the way through, like and I
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: don't think the Hornets roster is at a point where like,
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: how does he how does he make the Hornets better,
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: the NBA version of the Hornets better. I don't think
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: right now that that he does. And I don't know
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: right now. Maybe the best bet is you develop him
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: and maybe you just add him into a future trade
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: down the line, you get a second round pick for
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: him somewhere else. I don't know, but I'm no longer
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: in the camp of let's see this thing through. If
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: t Jon Salon never plays another minute for the for
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: the Hornets of the NBA.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: I'm good.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: He reminds me of and you can relate to this,
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: I'm sure with an example. He reminds me of one
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: of those baseball prospects that you're excited to see, but
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: yet they're and they're really good, whether it be double
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: A or triple A, and every time they're down there,
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: oh look he's batting three point fifteen. Bring them back up,
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: and then they get to the majors and it's not
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: quite It's that guy that is the in between player.
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: He's really good in the miners, he gets to the
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: majors and it doesn't translate as well. I would say
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: for the Yankees team that I know well, Jason Dominguez's
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: probably that guy where you're tantalized by what he can be.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: He goes to the miners, he takes care of business,
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: gets to the to the majors and it's not quite
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: what it was. T John's that in between guy you're
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: tantalized by his talent, goes to Greensboro, balls out often
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: in Vegas like last year, plays well, but when we
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: get to the NBA season, it doesn't always translate. And
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: you also don't know what role he's going to play
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: within the rotation of the team.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: That's really good.
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: There's not a defined skill for him where I say, yeah,
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: that's who he is. I don't, oh, still in year
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: three what he is as a basketball players a really.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Good point bone.
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: There's obviously a different level from Triple A baseball to
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: the major leagues. There's a difference in the level of
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: basketball at you see played at the G league level
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: to what happens at the NBA level. At the G league,
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: his body, his skill set allows him to thrive because
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: there aren't dudes that have his athleticism at the G
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: league level. You get to the NBA level, everybody can
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: move like he can move.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: It's free flowing in the G league also where you
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: know those and baskets and the things that he's good at.
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: The spontaneity, the Tasmanian devil, which nature of his game
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: probably translates well to that level.
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: So I think the fact that they've brought him from
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: where he was where if he couldn't dribble at times
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: as a rookie, to where he is now, I think
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: is a testament to the to the player development program
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: that this Ornet's organization has implemented.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: I just don't think he's going to be a difference maker.
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: And at year three of the Summer League. I know
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: we had nine points last night and you mentioned his
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: defense year three of the Summer League. For a guy
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: that was picked where he was, he should be only
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: playing one or two games in this thing.
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: And it feels like he's gonna need the entire week
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: and a half out there in Vegas exactly.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: He's staying in Vegas longer than Wayne Newton is at
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: this point. It's a good uh, it's a good old
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: Wayne Newton time. We reference there. Hey, when we come
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: back on the Mack and Bun Show a news and segment,
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: the pitches to Lebron James are getting a little odd.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: We have a Kawhi Leonard to Toronto update, a Spurs
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: play by play man in Trouble, And we had some
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: pretty big college basketball news yesterday in the Big twelve
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: Wolks are no Big twelve. Clean up, clean up, clean up,
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: clean up, clean up there, get the mop out there.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: We had some pretty big here we go. We had
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: to need a mop a whole lot. We had some
• 36:00
  Speaker 3: pretty big college basketball news in the SEC Yesterday, Roster Wise,
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: all that and more. Sports Radio ninety two seven WFZ.
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: Some of the leading suitors for Lebron James, whether that's
• 36:24
  Speaker 6: a golden state in Cleveland, Miami, Minnesota, Philadelphia, some of
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: them have been able to send a voice note to
• 36:33
  Speaker 6: Lebron James via Rich Paul. So, whether it's an owner,
• 36:37
  Speaker 6: a president, or a general manager being able to record
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: a voicenoe, I'm told, send it to Rich Paul and
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: that makes its way to Lebron James. This is just
• 36:46
  Speaker 6: a part of Lebron James' process of studying as he
• 36:50
  Speaker 6: makes the decision. He has not been in a rush.
• 36:53
  Speaker 6: There's been no timetable that he's been operating under. I'm
• 36:55
  Speaker 6: told there's been a lot of family time, friends, time golf.
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: Of course, over the last couple of weeks, the last
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: two he's spent in the Akron, Ohio area, including with
• 37:07
  Speaker 6: one of his close friends that he grew up with
• 37:09
  Speaker 6: in Brandon Wims was now one of the leading executives
• 37:11
  Speaker 6: of the Cleveland Cavaliers under President Kobe Altman. So the
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: process continues, and it's unclear whether Cleveland or Miami have
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: been among the teams that have sent a voice note
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: to Lebron via Rich Paul.
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: Again, they kind of don't need to.
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: They already had him in their buildings in the recent past.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: Boy, what a scoop there from Schams on ESPN. Executives
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: around the league have been granted the honor and the
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: privilege to send a voice memo to Lebron James. What
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: an innovative thing that is there, Viddy Shams acted like
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: it was some super duper thing that's never been done
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: before sending voice memos before I tell you what, during
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: this whole cycle this year. The thing is ridiculous on
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: the surface of what it is. But Shams has driving
• 37:55
  Speaker 3: me crazy this time too well, and they're able to
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: send a voice memo.
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: All right, great, and you're doing this to court, not
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: twenty seven year old Lebron James, not even thirty five
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: year old Lebron James, forty one year old, Like, still
• 38:12
  Speaker 4: a very efficient NBA player, still a guy that can
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: impact winning for a championship contender. But this isn't like
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: if this was twenty ten, twenty eleven, Lebron Okay, I
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: could see myself sending a voice memo to try to
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: recruit me to come play for my team winning a championship.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: I couldn't imagine.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: Could we send voice We could send voice mails back then.
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: We're voice memos. The thing about I don't think voice
• 38:35
  Speaker 3: we mean some people saw on answering machines back then.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: So with that being said, though, if any local female
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: would like to send me a voice memo, uh, nine
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: to eight to zero, I'll give you my phone number
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: at a different time. But I'm open to receiving those
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: types of messages from women. Could you imagine being a
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: billionaire owner and every day of my life and you're
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: having to send voice memos a rich Paul to try
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: to get Lebron James want to come play basketball?
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Are you?
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: How do you think those even sound? By the way
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: I got? What? What's the tone? What are you even?
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: What are you even doing in those things?
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: If I had a pat Riley impression, I because like
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: pat Rody is probably miserable.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: Lebron I want to come back to Miami.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: We are you? Are you supposed to be?
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: Like?
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: Are just like shark Tank?
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: Are you?
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: How long do you have? Also on these memos? Those memos,
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Those things don't last very long, do they? How long
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: can you send one?
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: I feel like there's gonna be like a minute and
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: a half threshold, Like maybe you do a quick introduction
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: and you recap at the end, but like, what are
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: what are you even pitching in the idea? Like you're
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: not pitching the contract, so what are you selling? You're
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: selling the restaurant scene like it's Lebron James go anywhere
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: he wants.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna send to you one right now, voice memo
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: on the you're ready for this one?
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: You said he wanted a female? Yes, hey, fitty, hey,
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: big boy, this is Veronica. You want to go out
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: send see those are that's how That's how the ladies
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: are gonna send one to you right there right.
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: We can send voice memos on the show, so if
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: you really want them seven oh four five, seven h
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: nine six ten. Now, Unfortunately, yours are gonna come from
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: guys like Kawhi's laugh, Woody from Stanley and DVR Dave
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: current Texter. So you may you may not get females,
• 40:26
  Speaker 3: but you can get some. You can get some man messages.
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: Here what a he from Stanley's defending and saying it's
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: still Lebron James.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: No, he matters. No, he he matters. But even in
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: the reports about his role that he says he's gonna play,
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: he's not. If he goes to Miami, he's gonna go
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: there to help Joannis and Bam, he's not the main
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: guy anymore. If he goes to Cleveland, he's playing second
• 40:51
  Speaker 3: fiddle to Donovan Mitchell. And this is this is the
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: stage that we've been waiting for him to go to
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: for a while. If he goes to fild you're getting
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: power forward Lebron James, that Carl Malone in Utah La
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: end of the career type thing. Because they've got Maxi,
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: they've got Edgecomb, they've got Jayalen Brown, they've got Embiid.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: He slides into the power forward spot. He doesn't. Maxie
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: and Embiid are going to be the main guys. So
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: that this is not It still matters, but it's not
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: worth you know, courding via creepy voice memos.
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: I have Obviously, I guess as a Hornet fan, you
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: would not want him in the Eastern Conference. You would
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: not want him in Philadelphia, bo and I think that's
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: the second most interesting place for me. I I'm opened
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: after watching how him and Steph compliment each other and
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: during that Olympic running at the twenty twenty four Paris Games,
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: I'm very open to seeing them two on the court
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: at the same time and just what that could look like.
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: And I don't think it would be. It's not like
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: when he thought about going there a few years ago,
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: when it was when everyone thought he could be traded there. Yeah,
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: and he was still like in in the back end
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: of the prime of his career. I still want him
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: and going to seconds and Thinky'll just be really fun
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: to watch. But you mentioned that that's Philadelphia line up.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: I mean with a lot of This's got Maxie Edgecombe,
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: you got Jaylen Brown, one of the best two way
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: players in the NBA, and then then you have Joel Embiid,
• 42:21
  Speaker 4: who when he's healthy, he's a top.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: Three big man in the NBA.
• 42:25
  Speaker 4: Him in Philadelphia is very intriguing, I think from a
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: basketball perspective.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: And what they can do because they have Maxi edge
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: Cobe and Jaylen Brown, the the younger, healthier guys of
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: the operation. I know that Embiid's not old, but it's
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: a it's a health thing. They can figure out ways
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: fitty throughout the regular season to still win games, but
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: not maybe they can still rest while Brawn and Embiid
• 42:52
  Speaker 3: like they they're gonna want to do because Maxie Edgecomb
• 42:57
  Speaker 3: and they've also got anthrety Simon's too, by the way,
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: who they added as their six man. They got a
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: lot of dudes where they can say, all right, well
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: we might not have Embiid for a week, or we'll
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: Broun for a week. With there, they still got a
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: lot there where they're not gonna be They're not gonna
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: like go under completely. Like if a bead now it
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: recently goes out, they kind of go under. But I'm
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: thinking with Edgecombe getting better year two, Maxie, I think
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: the world of that dude has a star. I think
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: that they're they're gonna set themselves up for get through
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: the regular season, getting le broad Embid if that's where
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: he goes, and now those guys will be in the postseason.
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: You've mentioned the Calves and I don't know if you
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: were wanting to get to this here or not, but
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: I sent this to the group chat last night, which
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: has still been ignored by one Christopher McClean who's been
• 43:45
  Speaker 4: still cruising, we do believe. But Jake Weinbach puts something
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: up about the Horns could be a viable landing spot
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: for Jared Allen if the Calves were to move on
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: from him this season. Would you be interested in adding
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: Jared Allen to the Horn's front court?
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: He wasn't one. I like him. He wasn't one when
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: I thought this whole thing started that, I'd say yeah.
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: Of the of the players we thought the the Jalen
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: Brown's hell Eveld thought Gianni is there for a little
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: bit like oh, but as this goes forward, We've mentioned
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: before how they're at the mercy of who comes open.
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: They have to use that trade stuff at some point.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: So I think I would have some interest in at
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: least exploring what that would take, because you know what
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: you're getting out of him. You know you're getting effort, energy,
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: great teammates. So I'm not sure if that's my number
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: one choice, but I think you could do worse than
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: Jared Allen.
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: Imagine the reaction.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: I prefer mobile, but you're not getting You're not getting
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: him out.
• 44:49
  Speaker 4: Could you just imagine the reaction from this fan base
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: if the trade exception that the Hornets landed in the
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: deal to trade away Lamela Ball results in Sharon Allen.
• 45:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but again, I mean, I mean that's.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: That's Simpson's episode Bring the Pitchforks.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're got ready to use it at some point.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: I mean, he wouldn't be my first option, but I
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: don't know. It's hard to figure out what guys may
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: be there.
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: The Kawhi Leonard Clippers Raptors situation got a little bit
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: odd yesterday, Fitty. That trade is on hold because of
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: the legal situation where Kawhi had that fake job there
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: for a while with that that company whatever whatever it's
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: name was there, Aspiration Aspiration. So now the Raptors are
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: not trading for him yet because the league has said
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: if you trade for him, you now have the legal
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: responsibility for what Kawhi did for the Clippers. How does
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: that work? Of the Clippers doing all this stuff and
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: then the Raptors are having to take on the legal problems.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: It feels like.
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: Adam Silver being very protective of one of his richest
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: owners in the NBA and Steve Balmer and not wanting
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: to punish a Clippers organization that has finally found its
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: own identity in LA They've got their own arena, They've
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: been able to land star players, They've you know, they
• 46:14
  Speaker 4: they they're consistently a playoff team and rich and and
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: and Steve Balmer makes a lot of money. There's no
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: how do you justify punishing a different organization for a
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: crime he committed while playing for someone else. I'm all
• 46:30
  Speaker 4: for I'm all for crapping on Canada.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: I'm all for treating.
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: Canada and Canada teams poorly. But that makes up that
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: makes no sense.
• 46:38
  Speaker 3: It's one thing if he had a legal problem away
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: from the court, where it's like, oh yeah, but this
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: is something that Clippers did. So how do the Raptors,
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: to my understanding, how do the Raptors take that on?
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: That doesn't yeah? That that The Order Toronto said, hey,
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: you know what hold up on that? There? We had
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: a couple of interesting college basketball news and notes yesterday.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: We've been wondering where for the NCAA Tournament where the
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: opening round games would be at outside Dayton will still
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: host of the expand in tournament, but we needed more
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: because of all the games that will be played. Some
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: people thought the pitt in Albuquerque. Of course, Las Vegas
• 47:17
  Speaker 3: came up, but Wichita I think probably based off location
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: more than anything, Wichita will host the other opening round games.
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was what I saw my guy, Matt Norlander
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: of CBS Sports Reporting. You know, it's in the it's
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: in the Midwest time zone, so the Central time zone,
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: and if you go out with the Albuquerque, I think
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: they're two hours behind. I think they're in the Mountain,
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: not all the way on the West coast. The good
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: news is bone is Wichita is a really hotbed for
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: college basketball. Like it's it's in a really good spot
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: where it'll be supported, it'll be attended no matter the
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: teams that get sent there. I wanted the pit just
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: for what the pit means in the college basketball community.
• 48:03
  Speaker 4: How iconic that venue is like for a lot of people.
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: You know, it's a top ten venue to go watch
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: a game. App Like, whenever you see those lists, you
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: see the pit rank up there.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: I State won their national title against Houston.
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's where State's nineteen eighty three national championship game
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: took place.
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: So I'm glad it's not in a Vegas.
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: I'm glad it's not in a Dallas where it's just
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: let's put it in the biggest rent possible to make money. Now,
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: let's put it somewhere where it can be supported, it
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: can be attended, and I do think it'll become the
• 48:37
  Speaker 4: dating of the Midwest where there will be a great
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: crowd there for the games that they host.
• 48:43
  Speaker 3: And real quick, another reclass in college basketball. Number one
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: player for the class of twenty twenty seven to Marcus
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: Spears junior. Yes, the son of NFL personality Marcus Spears
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: has committed to Texas and will play this season. That
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: is now the top three players from the class of
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty seven. Spears junior, the young man from UCLA.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: That's a big deal. Excuse me for not getting his
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: name correctly yet here And that was a story the
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: other day. And Joachim Boomja Boomcha from Duke is reclassed.
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: So the top three players for next year all playing
• 49:23
  Speaker 3: this year. That's a big deal for Shaw Miller in Texas.
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: And I saw Brindon Marks with the South.
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: They're all three are gonna have to spend two years
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: in college, so that's an even bigger win.
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: He's the same as boom Jay.
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: That's that's an even bigger win for college basketball. As
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: we'll get these guys in the sport for a minimum.
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: Of two years.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: Yes, sir, when we come back, we have some lists
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: at update rankings for the Panthers, some good, some not
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: so good. We'll explain that offensive infrastructure. Where did CBS
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: right the Panther? Sports Radio ninety two seven WFNZ