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Episode 45: 2025 Reflections & the Year We Got Our Pink Back · Pretty In Pink Again

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  I'm Christina, and I'm t, and this is the Pretty and Pink Again podcast where Motherhood Meets Rediscovery.
• 0:17
  Hello.
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  Hi.
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  Happy New Year.
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  Happy New Year.
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  Our last podcast recording, but our first one that's airing in 2026.
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  Whoa.
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  Wow, this is crazy.
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  2026 is here.
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  It's gonna be a big year.
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  Especially for all you 86 babies.
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  Guys we're turning 40 this year.
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  If you're an 86 baby with me and t.
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  Our forties are here.
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  We're ready.
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  We're ready.
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  I really am ready for it.
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  I'm excited for this year.
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  I feel really good and I feel like that's the vibe.
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  I feel like everybody's just like really excited and we're ready to move on to 2026.
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  So we thought what we would do is do a sort of 2025 reflections and a little bit of a hope.
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  What we hope for in 2026.
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  And to take us down memory lane of the last year.
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  This is obviously the year we started the podcast.
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  Which is crazy.
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  We're approaching like our one year.
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  Yeah.
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  But closing out this year.
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  I know.
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  So on New Year's Eve, we've been doing this for about 10 years, Nick and I, and usually Gina's here with us, so she does it too.
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  And the kids, we write on a piece of paper what we want for the next year.
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  And then the next year, on New Year's Day, we open the box and we see what's inside.
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  It's funny because I, you sometimes you forget.
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  Yes.
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  Because it's not a vision board that you keep in front of you.
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  Right.
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  Or like intentions like that you like see all the time.
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  That remind you.
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  It's like just what's on your mind and what for the next year.
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  So we'll be doing that, but mine has always been the same every year.
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  What is it?
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  Can you share?
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  Mine is, has been for the past 10 years, like health, like my mental health.
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  Yeah.
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  I wanna get my mental health.
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  In order.
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  I'm not putting that on my card this year.
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  Wow.
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  I find, I feel like you, you feel like you're there.
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  I feel like I am finally at a good, a much more stable place.
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  I love that so much and I love that for you and I know I like it for me too.
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  So the other day Nick said to me, he was, I'm really proud of you this year in particular.
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  You really changed.
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  He goes, you gave me a lot of hope.
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  And him saying that to me was.
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  So meaningful because I don't get like a pat on the back from him.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  I usually get from him when are you gonna get over this?
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  Because he can't see through that.
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  And when he said that to me, I was like, wow.
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  Maybe I was able to make a change.
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  Make a change.
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  I'm sorry it took 10 years.
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  I know.
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  I feel the same too.
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  Yeah.
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  Like I really feel like I've done a tremendous amount of growth this year.
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  I'm really excited for the next year.
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  But I feel that way too.
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  There's good days and bad days.
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  We always say just because you have a couple of moments or bad, you can go through seasons of hard times.
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  Yeah.
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  And feel like tricklings of things reverting back, but it.
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  I feel like my mindset is different this year.
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  Where I feel like even if things sneak in, it feels like I can control it a little bit more.
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  1000%.
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  Yep.
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  And things trickling in is normal.
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  But you don't get taken back to that right place.
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  You're not going backwards.
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  I love that so much.
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  I know I do too.
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  I wanted to, that's really exciting.
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  I wanted to share that.
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  What do you think surprised you the most about yourself this year?
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  I had a consistent year where I made space to feel well.
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  And I didn't.
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  Really realize it until about a few weeks ago.
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  'cause over the holiday season I was feeling very stressed and I started to feel anxious again.
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  Yeah.
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  And started to retreat back into my house and I was able to use the words and tell myself, oh, this is about of anxiety.
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  For whatever reason you're gonna get through it and then it, and then it went away.
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  Wow.
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  And it went away.
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  Like you were talking yourself down pretty quickly.
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  Wow.
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  And I didn't have to do a whole lot of it.
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  So what surprised myself most this year was that I can have ebbs and flows of anxiety and they're not gonna take me down.
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  And take the house down.
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  For.
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  Months.
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  Yep.
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  And I'm not gonna have to be at like a hermit and hide in this house.
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  I would piggyback off that for sure.
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  I feel the same way.
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  I feel like I've had moments, especially as we closed out closer to the end of the year, the last six months.
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  Yeah.
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  I feel like I really took my health into my own hands.
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  Mind, body, soul type of way.
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  And I feel the same way.
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  Like I definitely still struggle with things.
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  I have bad days.
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  I'll have a bad couple of days where I feel twinges of my old self that I'm working to move past, come back in and sneak back in.
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  But I feel like I now have.
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  A very large toolkit of things that I can reach to, to make myself feel whole again.
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  And I do notice that it, that all of it's working.
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  Like all of the things that I'm doing, I just have to know.
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  What to pull at, like what needs what, yeah.
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  So it sounds like for both of us, what surprised us this year was that's achievable.
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  Yeah, for sure.
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  Because I don't think either one of us thought it was.
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  No I agree.
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  When did you feel the most like yourself, like returning?
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  Was there a moment this year or do you feel like it just was a slow, so over the summer.
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  I started to feel it.
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  You did.
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  I remember you said that.
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  I was saying in the summer was like my fun era.
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  My adventure era.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Because I would typically decline most invitations because they were just too much for me.
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  And now I realize that I can do too much and then I can retreat and reset and it won't take me out for.
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  Several weeks.
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  And I remember you saying that you had the most fun with your kids this summer too.
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  Like they were a part of that.
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  Yeah.
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  Fun era.
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  They were a part of it.
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  Yeah.
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  If you ask them though they'll tell you something different.
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  Of course.
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  They'll tell you that I was on 17 vacations this summer and I was never with them, it's, we all have our own story in our head.
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  How about you?
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  I feel like mine wasn't a light bulb moment of anything.
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  I just feel like the last few months.
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  I have felt more like my old self, and I'm saying that almost like pre-kids, like my pre-kids self, but this newer version of her.
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  Yeah.
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  So it's a blend of the two.
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  I feel like it's just been slowly, which is what you are.
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  You are a blend of the two.
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  It's a blend of the two.
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  And I feel like I, maybe I could feel the blend of the two happening.
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  There's some.
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  Kind of reminders of who I used to be, but blended with this new, stronger version of myself.
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  I don't think that there was like one moment where I was like, oh, I'm back.
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  Or oh, here she is.
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  It was just, I could feel slowly that things were clicking into place a little bit more than I have the last couple of years.
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  Yeah.
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  I we're gonna get into a little bit more of like personal things a little bit later in the episode, but we wanted to just recap the last year of the podcast because we really have.
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  Stayed consistent.
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  We started the podcast in February.
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  Yeah, I think we took one week off, maybe two this entire year.
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  And so we're at like 40 something episodes, so the content is there.
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  We've had so much content, so many conversations, so many amazing guests that we've been able to get in the seat or.
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  Via Zoom.
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  And so we've just had some really great conversations.
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  It's crazy to think about, we said Pippa being at this one year mark at, around the same time as the new year, so I feel like we have a lot of thoughts and feelings about that.
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  But what.
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  What did you think the podcast would be at the beginning of the year versus what it ended up being?
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  So I thought that the podcast was gonna be you and I just talking at each other.
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  And just.
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  Talking about just like our day in life.
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  Like shooting the shit.
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  Kind of shooting the shit.
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  Yeah.
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  Which are like what?
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  What?
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  We're watching what we're doing, but things have become so much more deeper and there's themes in everything that we're saying, and.
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  There's themes in what other women are saying and what our, what guests and professionals are saying and how they feel is very similar to what a layperson thinks and feels.
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  Yes.
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  And there's been so many commonalities, which has been so not only validating, but useful and helpful to propel you forward.
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  The podcast for me has been like reclaiming things, letting go of things, and also keeping things the same that I enjoy and and feel good.
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  Yeah.
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  I love that.
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  So what about for you?
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  I feel similar.
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  I knew I needed an outlet to talk and communication is not one of like my strongest points and letting my guard down and letting the walls down is not something that comes like supernatural to me.
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  So although I had this vision for it, I thought that I would be like a lot more guarded.
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  I thought it would take me a lot more to strip me down and.
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  Tell my story and feel comfortable saying the things that were going on in my head out loud and I feel like within a few episodes I re if I think back, I was like tongue tied a ton at the beginning.
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  Like I, I didn't even know how to express the things I was trying to say.
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  I knew them.
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  You kept saying, I want this to come out Right.
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  I want this to come out.
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  Right, right.
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  So the perfection is part of you was still was still running.
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  Michelle ruminating in there.
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  Then once you started talking.
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  Honestly.
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  And realized that being honest is the best way to communicate.
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  Yep.
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  And get your story out there.
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  Yep.
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  And it's not offensive.
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  It's your story.
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  It's personal, it's honest.
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  It's not a bad story.
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  It's not a good story.
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  It's just the honest truth and I felt like that.
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  It took just a few episodes of that and then I really feel like this has helped me do that throughout my life.
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  Like it has helped me communicate better.
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  Yeah.
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  I don't, I wouldn't say I'm the best communicator, but I feel like it's allowed me to not only process my own thoughts, but actually be able to put them into words.
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  I think that there was almost like a short circuit that had sort of happened throughout motherhood where I could not convey my thoughts.
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  To someone else out loud.
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  Because I was worried about maybe how they would be taken, maybe, the fear of even saying those things out loud.
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  Yeah.
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  So I didn't expect this to end up being like therapy for me.
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  You know what I mean?
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  And it really has, it's changed me from, I think from within, in addition to.
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  I just didn't expect us to stay as consistent.
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  I think it was something that we thought of on a whim we did it, but to actually week after week show up and actually have these conversations and plan for them and have these guests that could come on I didn't expect all of this to just unfold the way it did.
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  I know the guest.
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  Were, I think one of my favorite parts because when we were asking people to come on, people in our community.
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  I was first of all shocked that people were saying yes.
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  Yes, me too.
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  And not only that, like they were taking time away from their businesses, their own jobs to come on, and everybody kept saying, I love what you're doing for women.
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  I love what you're doing for the community.
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  I love what you're offering.
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  I love what you're putting out.
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  Yeah.
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  So if somebody says.
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  I love what you're putting out.
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  I'd like to be a part of that.
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  That's really meaningful.
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  It was, I was almost expecting the nose of I'll pass.
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  Which, which is fine too.
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  And we, I just feel like we just didn't have a ton of that, which just shocked me.
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  And then I think also what.
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  Not surprise me, but I think just validated me in a way was this community of other Pippa's that we are building.
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  I didn't really expect to, first of all, name a community and we really did, and people have really showed up and stayed.
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  We've had consistent.
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  Loyal listeners who we interact with all the time, and we appreciate you so much.
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  I feel like we have this like band of women that like share the podcast with other people, write into us, share their stories with us, give us episode ideas, and it's, it just has felt like such a beautiful community of people who all feel.
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  Maybe they're not going through the exact same things that we are, but it's a supportive community.
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  So even if they're not going through the exact same thing that maybe one of us is going through, or a guest we have on, it just seems a very supportive group of women who are open to hearing other people's stories.
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  It's not, oh, that didn't happen for me, so I can't relate to that.
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  We don't have any of that.
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  I feel like people have just been very open and understanding.
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  Yeah.
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  If somebody has shared something that maybe one of us has gone through and they didn't, they're open to hearing.
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  Another version of an experience.
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  I think that's what a Pippa is, right?
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  At their core.
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  Yeah.
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  I think Pippa's are curious.
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  I think Pippa's want to share their stories.
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  Or wanna be listened to, because I do think that there's commonalities in everything.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  I don't think that motherhood and being a woman is that linear, that if it doesn't happen the exact same way to two people.
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  That you can't.
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  Right.
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  Relate on a matter, but I think sometimes when you put yourself out there, you worry about how it's going to be taken.
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  And I think motherhood sometimes, from what I've found online, in, in just being in the online space and being a consumer of content, things can be very polarizing.
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  And so I was almost expecting this level of, I don't wanna say cattiness or it's just, but like when people don't agree with an experience, they tell you that they don't agree with the experience, they fight you on the.
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  Experience and that I have not felt that, I have felt very embraced.
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  I opened up about infertility.
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  We opened up about postpartum anxiety and depression.
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  Not everybody experiences those things.
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  We opened up about a plethora of other things.
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  Not everybody experiences all of those things, but we were shown a lot of grace and support by a community that I didn't really expect to build the way that it has, yeah.
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  You were pleasantly surprised.
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  Yes.
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  From your.
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  Experience as a public person?
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  Yes, I think it's a different type.
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  It's a different platform.
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  It's a different platform, it has just exceeded my expectations in every single way.
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  So I've, I truly, from the bottom of my heart, I'm sure t feels the same way.
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  Thank you guys for showing up and listening to us and engaging with our content and writing into us, even if they're just personal messages on each of our pages.
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  We've appreciated it so much, and to our guests who have come on too, like you said, who have taken the time.
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  And shared their stories.
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  It really has just, all of it has exceeded my expectations.
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  Yeah.
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  What about did you have any episodes that were standouts for you?
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  So one of my favorite episodes, and I think it's one of our listeners' favorite episodes'cause it has the highest downloads, was the Christine Lang podcast.
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  Chris is one of my best friends.
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  Yep.
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  She's terrific.
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  She's brilliant.
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  Brilliant.
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  She is brilliant.
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  And I was saying on one of our other episodes, I have a really hard time with experts because experts can tell you.
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  Technically how to to do things, how to do right.
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  But there is a disconnect with execution.
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  And Christine practices what she preaches.
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  Right.
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  I see it at home.
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  And she practices like how messy life can be with four kids and having jobs and her episode, I thought.
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  Resonated so well with our listeners.
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  Mm-hmm.
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  Because our listeners, a Pippa has a very high bullshit meter for sure.
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  And they know when we're like just reading off chat GPT, like theoretically this is what you can do.
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  Or when there is real information that you can execute and put into practice.
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  Right.
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  And her episode, I thought.
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  Was the prime example of that.
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  So that's something we'll definitely talk about today in terms of preparing things in advance.
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  But a lot of times I go minute to minute and when I'm ready for the next thing, I don't realize that I didn't let other people know my plan.
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  And what we need to do next.
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  So you're going to talk about that preparation piece.
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  So Christina and I were talking two weeks ago, about control and how we feel like there's a fine line between controlling everybody around us, but you reframe it as preparation.
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  We have three pillars that we're going to discuss with you today.
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  Preparation being a big one.
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  Communication and regulation.
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  What does this look like?
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  Sure.
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  as you just mentioned, we all have these moments and we feel inside okay, what's happening right now?
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  What do I need to get done?
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  And you just mentioned, where did it start from?
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  So I would notice every time I got into the car with all of my kids to go somewhere is when I would start feeling this like twisting feeling in my stomach.
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  And I felt like I really wanted to snap, even if someone started breathing too close to my presence.
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  And I was noticing that this was like such a huge antecedent for this, feeling dysregulated as a mom.
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  And I was like, okay, I'm cramming too much into this time, and I was on the treadmill.
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  Let's say we needed to leave at 9 30 to get to hockey for 10 30.
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  I'd be on the treadmill until 9 26 thinking, okay, I have four minutes.
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  I'll get my stuff.
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  We'll get in the car.
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  Before I went on the treadmill, I said, Hey guys, we have to leave in a little bit, make sure you're dressed.
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  And I'd come off the treadmill and everyone's still in their pajamas.
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  And I was like, wait, how did this happen?
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  We only have four minutes.
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  And so now I am worried that we're going to be late.
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  And when you as a mom get dysregulated, You couldn't possibly help your kids in terms of staying calm.
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  So now they're going to an activity and it goes from a fun day to now you're like, hurry up.
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  We're going to be late.
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  What are you doing?
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  Why aren't you ready?
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  Then I'm like, where's your stick?
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  Where's your water bottle?
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  Where's this?
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  And so I realized if I want to do those things for myself, like you talked about last week in terms of self care, And I feel like that treadmill time was really significant for me.
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  Then I needed to take a few steps back and say, okay what is it that we need to get done to be able to transition successfully so that time of going from the house to the car isn't so chaotic and stressful.
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  So the treadmill was supposed to be your way to regulate yourself.
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  That's why you're doing Your movement, but what it ended up doing when you planned it too close, it dysregulated everything correct.
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  And then again, when our kids, you mentioned this a few episodes ago, they have their antennas up, they can read you so well.
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  And so when your body language, your tone, just your overall presence is putting off stress and anxiety then that obviously can rub off on everyone else's behavior and I work on this in my practice, too It's funny because people are asking me for advice or I have friends saying I was channeling you last night And I'm like, Jesus, I'm always so effed up, but yet people are asking me for things.
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  That was episode six.
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  She was actually our first guest.
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  And again, we're so appreciative that somebody, it was our first interview.
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  It was our first interview.
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  I had never interviewed anybody before.
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  Right.
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  There was so much unknown with that.
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  One of our top episodes.
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  It was our top guest episode.
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  And if you haven't listened to that, we're gonna make sure that we link all of these episodes that we're chatting about in the show notes.
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  But I agree.
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  I thought she provided so much value Yeah.
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  In that, and again, to know her and to say, yes, this is how she is.
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  I felt you really were talking to somebody that you can take away information from and put into play.
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  I reference a lot of what she says.
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  Yes.
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  Like I have these like little bites, these sound bites in my head of like little things that she has said that almost it's like a friend said them to you and it sticks with you and I hear her voice in my head.
• 19:29
  That was such a powerful episode.
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  I agree with you.
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  Do you have a favorite episode?
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  Mine would be the episode that we did with Dr.
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  Kate, which was the fertility and hormone discussion.
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  I thought that information was just so enlightening.
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  I thought that there was so much.
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  Of a takeaway.
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  I thought it was gonna be a conversation about fertility.
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  And then it spun into this conversation about just your hormone health with women and.
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  Postpartum.
• 19:58
  And for me, that was such a powerful episode because I took so much away from that.
• 20:03
  And then I actually ended up doing something about it because I felt so connected to that episode and that the things that she was talking about.
• 20:12
  And I ended up going to do a full hormone panel and.
• 20:17
  A full blood test and basically like a full anything test of what's going on in my body.
• 20:21
  I like to think of it more of like.
• 20:25
  this is an opportunity that now I can go dig deeper and now I can fix this and I'll feel better.
• 20:31
  I will thrive more because of this.
• 20:33
  I deserve to feel better.
• 20:34
  And that's how I feel when I'm working with my clients.
• 20:37
  I want to help them so badly to get pregnant and to have that baby, but I also want them to go on and be able to mm-hmm.
• 20:45
  thrive and feel really good and I found so much information and started working with Dr.
• 20:49
  Kate on those things.
• 20:50
  And she's a huge reason why I feel the way I feel this year because in the fall I started to work on a kind of protocol supplement routine with her guidance.
• 21:03
  And so I just, I feel like she's like a saving grace in my life right now.
• 21:07
  And I feel.
• 21:09
  Like indebted that we had that episode.
• 21:12
  And again, I thought it was gonna be about one thing and it turned into something else, and the takeaways were something else.
• 21:18
  You know?
• 21:18
  I mean, All of our episodes we always think are gonna be one thing, but.
• 21:22
  Concepts are just not that compartmentalized.
• 21:25
  There is like deeper roots and deeper meanings.
• 21:28
  To everything.
• 21:29
  Like we come up with these conversations and these topics, but they're like at the surface.
• 21:34
  Yeah.
• 21:34
  And then in order to.
• 21:35
  Uncover that you have to dig deeper.
• 21:38
  And when we were having these conversations with her about infertility, she was saying that this is all connected.
• 21:44
  This all goes way, way back.
• 21:46
  Yes.
• 21:46
  Way before you even try to get pregnant.
• 21:48
  What are you eating?
• 21:49
  Where do you live?
• 21:50
  What's in your soil?
• 21:51
  What are your hormones like, right?
• 21:52
  How are you stressed?
• 21:53
  Are you this, like everything works together?
• 21:55
  And I just thought that was interesting.
• 21:57
  Yeah, it was very holistic.
• 21:58
  I really left there with kind of a fire inside of me of I'm gonna take myself up on this.
• 22:05
  And I did it.
• 22:06
  And so we, and now you've been at it for, what, three months?
• 22:09
  It's been about three months.
• 22:09
  And and I feel, things are starting to work.
• 22:13
  It's not an overnight fix, but I just felt like that was such an impactful episode for me personally.
• 22:18
  I have another one that I wanna call out.
• 22:21
  Tell me.
• 22:21
  Tell me.
• 22:21
  So we interviewed Courtney Cecil.
• 22:23
  Oh, I loved that one.
• 22:24
  She was earlier on too, and she asked us about our values.
• 22:28
  Yep.
• 22:29
  She was like a mic drop.
• 22:31
  And I was almost embarrassed because I didn't even remember what that word had meant.
• 22:35
  Once I started getting clear on what my values were and what a value is and what my values are, and then what our family values are, it made communicating.
• 22:45
  So much easier.
• 22:46
  It makes a lot of decisions easier.
• 22:48
  It makes made so many decisions easier.
• 22:50
  It made our family decisions easier.
• 22:52
  It made just my communication with my husband so much easier and just, I don't know, life just started to flow a little bit easier for me once I, what decided what are my values?
• 23:03
  What are they even, I agree.
• 23:05
  What am I even doing all this for?
• 23:06
  I agree.
• 23:07
  I just thought that conversation was a real to your point, mic drop moment.
• 23:11
  Yeah.
• 23:11
  And that ended up, that was a conversation again, we thought was going to be about one thing, and it turned into this extremely deep conversation.
• 23:18
  So I loved that one too.
• 23:20
  I also loved last week's episode when I was listening back to it.
• 23:24
  It was a long one that was with Kelly Babiak and that was a long one that, but that one that had so much meat to it.
• 23:32
  Yeah, that I ended up having to re-listen to it.
• 23:34
  And I appreciated that conversation and the direction it went in.
• 23:39
  It validated a lot of what I was feeling there was a lot of different layers to that episode.
• 23:43
  There was, it started off with an interview because she coaches women to get back to the workforce.
• 23:48
  Right?
• 23:48
  Whether they had to take time away because they were stay-at-home moms or now they have, and they wanna go back because now their children are raised or maybe they have some financial burdens, or I shouldn't even call them a burden, just.
• 24:00
  Financial.
• 24:00
  Yeah.
• 24:00
  Financial.
• 24:01
  Financial obligations.
• 24:02
  Financial.
• 24:02
  Financial obligations.
• 24:02
  Yeah.
• 24:03
  She also helps veterans reenter the workforce.
• 24:05
  So she's really a coach of women reentering the workforce.
• 24:07
  And I, but before you can even get to that point of reentry, you have to do all these other things.
• 24:12
  And I loved that conversation.
• 24:14
  I just thought that it was so validating.
• 24:17
  I feel like we're in a different time period now than we have been Yeah.
• 24:21
  The last few years.
• 24:22
  And so if you're somebody that.
• 24:25
  Has to return to work for any reason, like T said.
• 24:28
  Or if you're somebody who feels stuck in your job.
• 24:31
  If you are already, yes.
• 24:32
  If you're already a mom who is working and you feel stuck for whatever reason, or you are stuck because you want to return to work, you're feeling an itch to return to work.
• 24:42
  Mm-hmm.
• 24:43
  And you don't know where to go.
• 24:44
  You don't know what to do next.
• 24:46
  I thought that episode just had, first of all, it was so validating on so many levels.
• 24:51
  I also feel we love when things are like up a checkbox, right?
• 24:55
  Like you're like, okay, what's the next actionable step that can be taken?
• 24:59
  And she is an actionable step.
• 25:01
  I thought that it was just such a strong episode.
• 25:04
  It had so many moments where you would have an aha moment and then if you need a next step, you can go to her.
• 25:11
  And I love when people like, are actually like, can provide that to our Pippa and the community.
• 25:16
  She touched on like female friendship.
• 25:18
  She touched on she touched on everything.
• 25:20
  She touched on.
• 25:21
  It was like the perfect episode to have as our last episode of I agree.
• 25:25
  I agree.
• 25:25
  'cause she touched on everything that we talked about this year.
• 25:29
  She talked about values.
• 25:30
  It was like a closing the loop.
• 25:31
  She talked about communication.
• 25:32
  She talked about communication even with your husband, delegation like she talked about.
• 25:37
  Everything.
• 25:38
  And I think that when I was listening back to it, I totally agree with you and I was trying to think of like little sound bites or quotes that we heard and she said something again that I wanna close out this segment with because I feel like it was so powerful.
• 25:51
  She said that she focuses on working with women and she feels like when you heal a woman, right?
• 25:58
  And when you work and you invest in a woman.
• 26:01
  It's not just her.
• 26:03
  Oh yeah.
• 26:03
  It trickles down to everybody else in her life.
• 26:07
  So her spouse, her children, her community, her coworkers.
• 26:11
  Like when you have a strong woman, the world heals.
• 26:14
  And I just was like.
• 26:16
  This is exactly the message that we've been talking about, and I thought that she just closed.
• 26:20
  She said it perfect that she said it so eloquently, and I totally agree with her.
• 26:24
  And that's our message that we've been preaching this whole year, is that we're trying to take back this like main character energy and it's not just for selfish reasons.
• 26:33
  It's not just let's make you the primary focus to be selfish.
• 26:38
  It's.
• 26:39
  It trickles into every aspect of your life and it ends up making everyone around you happy.
• 26:45
  And it's spills over.
• 26:46
  Spills the, it spills over.
• 26:47
  And that is the antithesis of being selfish.
• 26:49
  A hundred percent.
• 26:50
  'cause it's not just you a hundred percent.
• 26:53
  It's everybody around you.
• 26:54
  Yep.
• 26:54
  So shout that from the rooftop.
• 26:56
  Yes.
• 26:56
  If you are concerned about.
• 26:59
  Pouring back into yourself.
• 27:00
  The investing profound yourself impact that it has not only on yourself, but the people around you I totally agree.
• 27:07
  It's the energy of a woman Yeah.
• 27:09
  Matters so much, yeah.
• 27:10
  Whether it's your family, your extended family, Where you work, your friend circle, like that woman energy matters so much.
• 27:19
  And I just loved that.
• 27:21
  I had chills listening back to it.
• 27:22
  I thought it was just so perfect.
• 27:24
  Loved that episode.
• 27:26
  Have there been any habits that you formed this year that you've noticed that work?
• 27:32
  And any that you were like, okay, this one's gotta go.
• 27:35
  Yeah, I think for me, i've shared a few in my pink spotlight, but I've been consistent with them and they really work is.
• 27:43
  Manifesting.
• 27:45
  I feel like I've been doing these like micro doses of manifesting, last year I did a vision board.
• 27:51
  I really poured a lot into my vision board.
• 27:53
  I made it very clear and I physically made it.
• 27:57
  On Canva, and I made it as my desktop background on my computer.
• 28:01
  And so every time I would open it, I would see it.
• 28:04
  And so I think that was like a kind of an overarching one throughout the year.
• 28:08
  And then I had shared a couple weeks back that I was doing these coffee with you check-ins, and I did, this was the third one that I did.
• 28:16
  And so the recap of that is just like you make a quick calendar invite for yourself for 30 days from now.
• 28:23
  Yep.
• 28:24
  And you write.
• 28:24
  Everything that you wanna happen, as if it happened already for that month.
• 28:30
  And I, and then you sit down when the 30 days is up and it comes up as a calendar invite and you have like coffee with yourself and you read it back.
• 28:38
  And I loved that month snapshot.
• 28:40
  I feel like that is something that I'm gonna do.
• 28:43
  Month to month.
• 28:44
  I love that.
• 28:45
  I love that practice.
• 28:46
  I feel like a lot of the things that I talked about came true, and if they didn't, I was like, okay, great.
• 28:51
  Then we'll just add it to next month.
• 28:53
  Like it was a very like positive thing.
• 28:55
  I loved that so much.
• 28:56
  Another one for me I would say like my beverage choices changed over the last probably six months.
• 29:03
  So I switched from coffee to matcha.
• 29:06
  That really grounded me.
• 29:08
  I feel like the jolt of coffee energy I was getting in the mornings was not what I needed for anxiety at all.
• 29:15
  So I have been much better with the kind of slow on.
• 29:19
  That energy that comes with matcha, it has been life changing.
• 29:22
  Mm-hmm.
• 29:23
  And it was something I never thought I could do.
• 29:24
  I was such like a coffee fiend.
• 29:26
  And I also really took a step back from drinking alcohol this year.
• 29:32
  And it wasn't an intentional decision, but it's something that I love about myself now, and I feel like I'm gonna carry it into 2026.
• 29:40
  I wouldn't say I'm never gonna drink again, but I just made that kind of call to just really.
• 29:47
  Drink when I really felt like it instead of feeling pressure to drink.
• 29:51
  And it's made a huge difference.
• 29:53
  I love that.
• 29:54
  Because I've seen all these, I've seen you do these things year past year.
• 29:56
  You've seen me talk about that and I've seen you talk about that.
• 29:58
  So I love that we can like almost like you tried it all out month by month.
• 30:02
  I saw you gulp down an iced coffee last January and then I saw you have shape.
• 30:08
  I'm saying like seen you've do all these things.
• 30:10
  So I love that you found out what.
• 30:13
  So I am extremely disorganized.
• 30:16
  I just lost my iPad right before we were about to, but that's, we're about to film.
• 30:20
  But one thing that I'm doing to help with the schedule is I write out a schedule.
• 30:25
  I have a notepad by the door.
• 30:26
  And I've been writing out the schedule, and then I input things into the phone.
• 30:30
  Okay.
• 30:31
  Because if I'm just on the phone.
• 30:33
  I'm too disorganized, so I have a paper, so you need to write the physical writing.
• 30:37
  I write it down and then if I can't take the notepad with me for the day, then I input it into the phone.
• 30:41
  And I've been doing that pretty much this whole year.
• 30:43
  Mm-hmm.
• 30:43
  And it works beautifully.
• 30:45
  Yeah.
• 30:45
  And like for instance, last night I said to my son, I said, make the schedule for tomorrow, make it hour by hour, and then we'll get the day done.
• 30:53
  When the kids are home on break, they're like, oh, I didn't get to do this.
• 30:56
  I didn't get to.
• 30:57
  I'm like, write it down.
• 30:57
  Make a schedule.
• 30:58
  We will follow the schedule by, yep.
• 31:00
  The hours.
• 31:01
  That's one thing that I'm.
• 31:02
  Taking with me into next year that I, that was new for me this year.
• 31:06
  If we can find a way to help me find my iPad in devices, you know what, that's just the end of it on a piece of paper, but we're gonna work on that.
• 31:12
  There's always next year.
• 31:14
  You also, I feel like you really took to the notes this year, like the notes app on the phone.
• 31:19
  The notes.
• 31:19
  The notes app are amazing.
• 31:21
  I love notes.
• 31:21
  You do these like brain dumps, yeah.
• 31:23
  And then I feel like now you like input all of this information that you have scattered around your mind.
• 31:28
  Put them, yeah, the notes page is great.
• 31:29
  And then you can even go into chat GPT and then have it like organize it for you and then you can put it back in, take things out, try again.
• 31:36
  I use the notes app a lot when I'm trying to like, organize care with my husband and a sitter and a friend or my mom.
• 31:43
  Like I just put it in the notes page instead of going back and forth.
• 31:46
  Between text messages.
• 31:47
  Yep.
• 31:47
  Like I just put it in a shared notes page.
• 31:49
  Except this is really funny.
• 31:50
  When I was in Italy, my friend Vanessa, she accidentally, she had access to the notes page and'cause she was on it for some of one reason and she accidentally deleted the whole thing and uploaded her license photo to it.
• 32:03
  So my dad was trying to figure out what time to pick up one of the kids from wherever and he was like.
• 32:08
  All I see is a picture of Vanessa.
• 32:10
  I don't get it.
• 32:11
  I'm like, oh my God.
• 32:12
  So if you have a shared notes page and you don't want people to edit it.
• 32:15
  Yeah.
• 32:15
  Don't make them an editor.
• 32:16
  I know that is, I know that is rough.
• 32:18
  Oops.
• 32:18
  That is.
• 32:18
  That's my fault.
• 32:19
  Know.
• 32:19
  There's a view only, but yes, there's so just, use, yeah, use that.
• 32:23
  I know.
• 32:24
  But to your point too, I.
• 32:26
  Seen you self-admittedly say that you're such like a type B mom and you're a mess and you're chaos and all these things, and I've seen you really show up this year as somebody who like strived for more organization and you put these more.
• 32:41
  Systems into place.
• 32:42
  Yeah.
• 32:43
  And I think some of like our guests and some of this kind of just even like having to have a protocol here with us, of like, how are we gonna do these things?
• 32:51
  Yeah.
• 32:51
  A workflow and we have to a workflow.
• 32:52
  Exactly.
• 32:53
  And so yeah, you have to have an established workflow.
• 32:54
  Yes.
• 32:55
  So I love that.
• 32:56
  I love, I'm starting to implement a workflow into Yes.
• 32:58
  My life.
• 32:59
  Because it's helpful.
• 33:00
  Yeah.
• 33:00
  And I wouldn't consider you like that type B, like in the good.
• 33:03
  Yes, in the good ways, but in the ways, not in the negative ways or the ways that you would perceive like disorganized chaos.
• 33:09
  Like I don't see that anymore.
• 33:10
  I can, I realize through this podcast that you can be driven and goal oriented and still be going the flow and not be a perfectionist, and type A right.
• 33:19
  Those things actually aren't the same.
• 33:21
  Yeah.
• 33:21
  They're not even they shouldn't even be used in the same like sentence.
• 33:24
  Yes., And then something that I've been doing for years that I'm gonna continue to do is wake up and move my body.
• 33:31
  I do it every day.
• 33:32
  It makes me feel so good when I miss, I can feel it.
• 33:35
  Yeah.
• 33:36
  And movement does not need to.
• 33:39
  Be a hit workout movement for me, on most days, you can, you'll see on my Instagram is like a walk in our neighborhood.
• 33:45
  Yep.
• 33:46
  Or a bar class with lightweights.
• 33:48
  Or this morning I went down and I walked on the treadmill mm-hmm.
• 33:50
  at an incline like, move your body.
• 33:53
  Yeah.
• 33:54
  I'm gonna, I'm, that's gonna be a big goal of mine this year is just the consistency of it, because I love it and I feel the same way, but I have said this and so I could say that at the beginning of the year, I remember saying this, but it's the thing that I drop off the list first.
• 34:08
  And I notice it that it has the biggest impact for dropping it off.
• 34:14
  And there's other things that I could drop off that probably wouldn't have as big of an impact, and so I wanna switch my thought process around that this year.
• 34:21
  That's, that is one of my goals.
• 34:23
  Yeah.
• 34:24
  For this year.
• 34:25
  Did you have, like any experience that in 2025 that was special for you?
• 34:31
  I think.
• 34:32
  Being able to have these moments with the kids.
• 34:35
  My kids are toddlers, so it's a lot of chaos, and it's a lot of meltdowns and all of the crazy chaos things that come with them being so little.
• 34:44
  But we've started to have these like really little.
• 34:49
  I don't like moments, right?
• 34:50
  Mm-hmm.
• 34:50
  Where I can start seeing us husband, like a fam like kids.
• 34:54
  I know you guys like look at each other with this adoration.
• 34:56
  It's so cute.
• 34:57
  You can just tell like you're tight it's so sweet.
• 34:59
  A lot of that has been work this year, and coming back to focusing on the four of us and we're just starting to see these little moments.
• 35:07
  Like we've done things with the kids.
• 35:08
  We traveled a little bit with the kids this year, and we would see, although things are hard, still with them.
• 35:13
  Yeah.
• 35:13
  You're making core memories as you four.
• 35:15
  Yeah.
• 35:15
  We're starting to, it's starting to feel like we're making, I think that's exactly the right way to say it.
• 35:19
  We're starting to make these core memories as a family of four.
• 35:22
  Yeah.
• 35:23
  And I'm see, starting to see it, where Yeah.
• 35:25
  And then it makes making new ones even easier.
• 35:27
  Yes.
• 35:27
  And more exciting.
• 35:28
  Yes.
• 35:28
  So I think just overall, just having those little moments throughout the year with them and seeing them grow up, it's been really, yeah.
• 35:37
  It's really fast.
• 35:38
  Actually, this is coming out on the second.
• 35:40
  It is Lela's second birthday.
• 35:42
  It's her golden birthday.
• 35:43
  Two on the second.
• 35:44
  She's Oh, my twins are a golden birthday this year too.
• 35:47
  Oh, seven on the seventh.
• 35:49
  It's insane.
• 35:50
  Oh my goodness.
• 35:51
  Oh my.
• 35:51
  Love that they both have that this year.
• 35:52
  That's so cute.
• 35:53
  So special.
• 35:54
  It's crazy just how fast you know time has gone.
• 35:58
  My experience of the year was my trip to Italy with my mom.
• 36:00
  Oh, I know.
• 36:01
  What a special, and for many reasons, one being I was very anxious.
• 36:06
  And I never thought I could leave the house for that long and travel and I was anxious that I was gonna be anxious on the trip.
• 36:12
  Yeah.
• 36:13
  And you weren't with Nick and I wasn't, to also like, and I wasn't with Nick.
• 36:15
  Yep.
• 36:16
  And I was for the first time in that I could remember I was present for the week.
• 36:22
  I love that.
• 36:22
  I like immersed myself in the culture.
• 36:24
  I listened to the guide.
• 36:27
  I ate the food.
• 36:28
  I moved my body like I did.
• 36:30
  Everything.
• 36:31
  And it was such an impactful trip.
• 36:34
  I also spent time with my mom, who, she was always my mom.
• 36:38
  Yeah.
• 36:38
  She was not my friend, she was my mom.
• 36:40
  She was like the authority, the rule maker.
• 36:42
  And then quickly we had a very short period of time where we were both adult girlfriends and then I became a mom.
• 36:47
  Yep.
• 36:48
  And then you got, yeah, you got crazy busy.
• 36:50
  And then to come home and see my husband organize the Tupperware and be able to do all the drop offs and all the pickups and all the laundry and told me like, we cannot do this without you.
• 37:01
  Thank God you're home.
• 37:03
  It was such a cool, it was just like such a cool experience.
• 37:08
  All around.
• 37:09
  So that was my, I love that.
• 37:11
  I know big.
• 37:12
  I know.
• 37:12
  That was I had said, I was like, I feel like this is going to be like a life changing trip.
• 37:15
  And it really was, was, it really was on so many levels.
• 37:18
  On many levels.
• 37:18
  And it was awesome.
• 37:20
  Oh, I'm so happy that you did that and I got to share it like on the podcast too.
• 37:23
  Yeah, you did.
• 37:24
  Which was fun.
• 37:24
  I know.
• 37:25
  That's amazing.
• 37:26
  I love that so much.
• 37:27
  Yeah.
• 37:27
  So we are wrapping up our first episode of 2026.
• 37:32
  Yeah.
• 37:33
  We're so grateful for all of you, Pippa's, for spending the year with us, or if you're new to us and our community, welcome.
• 37:40
  We have new listeners all the time.
• 37:42
  We're just so grateful for anybody who is here who takes the time.
• 37:46
  I think that still hits me, that people take the time, like they put something in their ear to listen to us and they press play.
• 37:54
  Plan to spend, like their, in, their intention is to spend time with us.
• 37:58
  And I, it just never goes unrecognized that's what people are doing for us, and they're here with us, listening with us.
• 38:03
  They're doing it with us.
• 38:04
  We have an community event that's gonna be coming up in the new year, which we're really excited to take this on the road with other women in the community.
• 38:12
  So we're looking forward to that.
• 38:14
  And that's gonna be an opportunity to be in person.
• 38:17
  Yep.
• 38:17
  So we have like lots of things that we're looking forward to doing.
• 38:21
  Next year together.
• 38:21
  Next year.
• 38:22
  Lots of things lined up.
• 38:23
  Lots of exciting things.
• 38:25
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