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Gangland Starring Lou Diamond Phillips The Effects Of A Western In Todays World · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 2: I am fantastic Ero, Thanks for having.
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  Speaker 1: Me, dude, I have experienced the movie we got to talk.
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  Speaker 1: I'm from Montana, so therefore I was around the Crow Nation, Lakota, Cheyenne, Arapaho.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I just this This struck such a
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  Speaker 1: major part of my heart because it's not like, yeah
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  Speaker 1: it does. It feels like you stepped into my world
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  Speaker 1: and you said, look, there is something that goes on.
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  Speaker 1: You don't know about it, but you're about ready to.
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  Speaker 1: And I just love what you did with this storyline.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Aeron man. And that means a
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  Speaker 2: lot to me because you know, especially because you know it,
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  Speaker 2: you you know the veracity of it. Uh and and
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  Speaker 2: and how uh how authentic it is. Uh. You know,
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  Speaker 2: the script was by Zach Montague, who is an actual
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  Speaker 2: tribal cop in Canada. Uh. And you know I brought
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  Speaker 2: I brought my brother Marcus red Thunder, who was our
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  Speaker 2: technical advisor on Long Wire for six seasons. I brought
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  Speaker 2: him on to the exec producer with me, and uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, just make sure we got it right. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and uh, you know, one of the one of the
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  Speaker 2: thrilling things is how much you know indigenous talent there
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  Speaker 2: isn't it. I mean, there's you know, amazing you know
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  Speaker 2: cast members who are getting their biggest roles to date,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and then you know old dear friends like
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  Speaker 2: Kim Berrero and Irene Bedard in it as well. So uh,
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  Speaker 2: you know, just uh, just feeling very fortunate that that
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  Speaker 2: this movie is getting a bigger audience, you know, the
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  Speaker 2: one that it deserves.
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  Speaker 1: How were you able to bring up so much humanism
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  Speaker 1: because you're right, you can relate with every single character.
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  Speaker 1: And I didn't go into this movie looking for the
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  Speaker 1: good guy bad guy type of thing. There's a relationship
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  Speaker 1: there because some of my best friends on this planet,
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  Speaker 1: they didn't play by the rules. We don't play like
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  Speaker 1: that up in Montana. We were all a part of
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  Speaker 1: the same group.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's interesting, I mean a vincent Gresha.
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  Speaker 2: The director has pointed this out, and I think it's
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's interesting. It's it's an aspect of the
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  Speaker 2: modern Western. Yes, that is different than the old black
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  Speaker 2: and white you know, good guy, bad guy thing that
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  Speaker 2: they you know that you know from the fifties and sixties,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I mean starting with like a little big man.
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  Speaker 2: You know, all of a sudden you're looking at things
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  Speaker 2: from both sides of the line. And you know, my character,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Teddy was a tribal cop. You know, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: he's the hero of the piece, but he's flawed any
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  Speaker 2: and he carries, you know, a burden, and you know
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  Speaker 2: he's not he's not always the most pleasant of guys,
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  Speaker 2: you know. But meanwhile, Elisha Pratt's character is the antagonist,
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  Speaker 2: Richie Richie Blacklance. You know, I mean he's got a
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  Speaker 2: point of view, you uh, and a point of view
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  Speaker 2: that is that is validt and and articulately put within
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  Speaker 2: the film, and and so it's thought provoking. It makes
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  Speaker 2: you think, it's like, how did we get here. How
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  Speaker 2: how did this situation arise? And how do you solve it?
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  Speaker 2: You know, you don't you don't just you know, uh,
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  Speaker 2: there there is no no magic bullets so to speak.
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  Speaker 2: I mean you have to get to the root of
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  Speaker 2: the problem and try to figure it out. And and
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  Speaker 2: the relevancy in this world today is that, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you've got young people who want to be seen, they
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  Speaker 2: want to be empowered, they want their their their seat
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  Speaker 2: at the table. And you know, ultimately, how am I
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  Speaker 2: going to get that? You know? Uh? And and that's
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  Speaker 2: very much. That's very much you know a part of this.
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  Speaker 2: And how does the community deal with it? I love it?
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  Speaker 2: You know, like your Iraq's character. You know, there's the
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  Speaker 2: resiliency and the survival that's expected. You know when when
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  Speaker 2: you have certain values and you have certain you know,
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  Speaker 2: a moral compass that you have to protect. There's there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot going on in the home. Bro.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it really does prove it. It's almost like the
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  Speaker 1: pre role. There's a story behind every one of the characters.
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  Speaker 1: I realize that the movie starts off with the prison
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  Speaker 1: scene and stuff, and and but once everything starts landing
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  Speaker 1: on the soil, and and and becomes a part of
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  Speaker 1: the circle and things change inside that that neighborhood. What
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying not to do is give away the movie.
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  Speaker 1: But but but the way that you you bring it
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  Speaker 1: all together is that you find yourself wanting to cheer
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  Speaker 1: everybody on it. And even though, like I said, they
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  Speaker 1: come from the world where they had the prison life,
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  Speaker 1: you're believing second and third chances, you believe, Okay, we can,
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  Speaker 1: we can get to this, we can, we can figure
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  Speaker 1: this out because that's what we do on these these
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  Speaker 1: places that that people are living.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you know that's embodied in Dona neighborhoods
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  Speaker 2: character as well. Yes, Young recruited and you know, and
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  Speaker 2: I've compared this to Training Day. I've compared it to Colors,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the old Bull Young Bowl kind of thing.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, we have the twist now that you
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  Speaker 2: know the issues a female but she's still a tough
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  Speaker 2: cop and you know, buy the book, and you know
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  Speaker 2: it doesn't doesn't really get all of you know, Teddy's
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  Speaker 2: jury rigged ways, you know, but but she she's got
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  Speaker 2: her own issues, you know, And that's why none of
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  Speaker 2: the characters are are you thumbnail, None of the characters
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  Speaker 2: are stereotypical. There's there's a lot going on every single
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  Speaker 2: one of them.
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  Speaker 1: Please do not move. We're just getting started with Lou
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  Speaker 1: Diamond Phillips, the name of the movie gang Land. We
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  Speaker 1: are back with Lou Diamond Phillips. What I love about
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  Speaker 1: Teddy's character is the confidence. And it's not something that
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  Speaker 1: he's throwing into anybody's faces, but when he walks into
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  Speaker 1: the group and he starts having a conversation. In fact,
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  Speaker 1: my favorite line of the whole movie from Teddy is
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  Speaker 1: I'm a goddamn hero. I laughed so loud because I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I all of a sudden I believe Teddy. I'm going, Oh,
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  Speaker 1: yes you are.
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  Speaker 2: That's that's so excellently. I loved this script, man, I
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  Speaker 2: it was so true to life. And sometimes people will say, oh,
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  Speaker 2: did jad libel? Did you know?
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  Speaker 1: Man?
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  Speaker 2: I'm one of these if it ain't broke, don't fixes
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  Speaker 2: you guys. And this this dialogue including a lot of that,
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  Speaker 2: you know, those long monologues, you know. Uh, it was
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  Speaker 2: it was my job to get it letter perfect because
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  Speaker 2: the poetry of it, you know, the the rhythm of
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  Speaker 2: it all, it just rang so true and so so
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  Speaker 2: I so wanted to get that right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, the authenticity of it is is that not everybody's
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  Speaker 1: blessed with an opportunity to go on to the crow Nation.
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  Speaker 1: But when we would go down there, I met a
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  Speaker 1: lot of teddies in my life. And we would go
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  Speaker 1: over to Yellowtail. And of course, because the rules change
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  Speaker 1: when once once you're there on their land, the rules
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  Speaker 1: are different, and you have to deal with with the
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  Speaker 1: tribal police officers and stuff. So you know, they're asking
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  Speaker 1: you questions, you're asking them questions. Just don't create, you know, chaos,
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  Speaker 1: so that we can do what we need to do
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  Speaker 1: as one happy, you know unit.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, And that's in that you know that that's one
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  Speaker 2: of the lessons too. I mean, you know, it's in
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  Speaker 2: that same scene where where he calls himself a hero. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he lays some wisdom on it and go,
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  Speaker 2: here's how the here's how we get to the end
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  Speaker 2: of the day, you know. And and that's you know,
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  Speaker 2: when you when you look at the film, you realize
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  Speaker 2: it's it's it's so condensed. It only covers a few days,
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  Speaker 2: you know, and and and that's why it's you know,
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  Speaker 2: in many ways, it's sort of relentless because the events
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  Speaker 2: just keep unfolding.
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  Speaker 1: The way that you were able to use your facial
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  Speaker 1: acting presence in the opening scene where it was like
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  Speaker 1: it's like you walk onto the scene and it's almost
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  Speaker 1: like I've been here before. Don't just give me a
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  Speaker 1: chance to figure this out. I'm going to lead people.
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  Speaker 1: Just don't try to put words in my mouth and
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  Speaker 1: just the expressions on your face say oh, this is
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  Speaker 1: the guy I need to invest my trust in.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you for that. I really appreciate that. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: one of the best comments in some of the views,
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  Speaker 2: you know, or how it lived in the character is
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  Speaker 2: and I remember, you know, when I first read the script,
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  Speaker 2: it's like I know this guy. I know this guy
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  Speaker 2: backwards and forwards. I mean, there's there's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: my dad in the script, to be quite honest. You know,
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  Speaker 2: he did, yeah, he did to two tours of nom
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  Speaker 2: He saw some things, you know, but but he's still
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  Speaker 2: he can spin a tail, you know. I mean the
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  Speaker 2: sense of human that Teddy has that's my dad's, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And I've been a you know, I've been a supporter
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  Speaker 2: of the military and first responders and you know, uh,
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  Speaker 2: and and I've spent you know, a good amount of
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  Speaker 2: time on reservations, having been you know, adopted into the
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  Speaker 2: Lakota Nation and the Cheyenne Nation, you know, so I know,
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  Speaker 2: I know that regality, and people say, well, how do
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  Speaker 2: you prepare for this role? I said, no, I just lived.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I have this baggage. This is this is
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  Speaker 2: something that I know. You know, I know this guy,
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  Speaker 2: and it's just committing to that, you know, to that
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  Speaker 2: weariness and going you know, I've I've earned this with
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  Speaker 2: the mileagitive accumulated over the years.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, and I got to be honest with
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  Speaker 1: you only because of my life. I the initial initiation,
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  Speaker 1: it was like I knew what was going on, but
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  Speaker 1: there are so many different styles of initiations, especially if
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  Speaker 1: you're doing the Sun Dance with Lakota or what or
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  Speaker 1: what you're doing, you know, and it just it really
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  Speaker 1: opens up your heart that you know, the language and
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  Speaker 1: the reason why and the purpose and the plan into
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  Speaker 1: why we are even together as one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And one of the things that I'm happy
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  Speaker 2: about it's you know, got limited release now coming out
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  Speaker 2: on July tenth on demand. But there's there's a path
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  Speaker 2: forward with the film where I believe I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: be bringing it to some reservations. I'm working with a
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  Speaker 2: group called Indigenous House. I believe I'm gonna get out
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  Speaker 2: to Santa Fe for India Market and do some screens
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  Speaker 2: out there, so you know, I'm going to take it
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  Speaker 2: to the people like you that that that would I think,
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  Speaker 2: really connect with it and understand it.
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  Speaker 1: Where can people go to not only find out more
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  Speaker 1: about it, but I know that there's got to be
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  Speaker 1: a way where we can invest in helping it to
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  Speaker 1: get it into more theaters and to get it onto
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  Speaker 1: the reservations like you're talking about it well.
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  Speaker 2: Pre Well, I'm working with the Linear and Crystal Ecohaic
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  Speaker 2: and hopefully at India Market, I'll make a lot of connections.
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  Speaker 2: It is going to be playing in Tulsa starting on
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  Speaker 2: the tenth. It's gonna it's Artsy Dallas on July third,
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  Speaker 2: and it's a two month engagement at Metro Private Cinema
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  Speaker 2: in Manhattan starting next week, and then also a special
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  Speaker 2: screening at the Roxy Oh Screen Yeah, and then screening
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  Speaker 2: for a little while at the Picturehouse in Bronxville just
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  Speaker 2: outside of Manhattan. So you know, there's a few opportunities
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  Speaker 2: to see it, and then it's streaming nationwide on the
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  Speaker 2: tenth as well.
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  Speaker 1: You got to come back to this show anytime in
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  Speaker 1: the future. The door is always going to be open
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  Speaker 1: for you.
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  Speaker 2: Er oh, thank you so much, my brother.
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  Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, sir, all right man, thank you you too.