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6-04-26 Hour 1 - Knicks & Spurs use depth/MacFarland's intro presser/Russell Wilson retirement video · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: But I forgot about that.
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  Speaker 2: I forgot when Nick Rothschild came in it did the
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  Speaker 1: It's been a long time. It has been How long
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  Speaker 1: has that been? It's been a long time six years started? No,
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't. When we started more on it was COVID year.
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  Speaker 1: Wasn't it? Oh, COVID eighty four years?
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  Speaker 3: And I know the answer was no. You're judging how
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  Speaker 3: Mosher started this. But I was gonna say, can I
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  Speaker 3: start by saying?
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  Speaker 1: Did you have a new car? I didn't see your
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  Speaker 1: car lot. That's a okay, have you driving? That's not
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  Speaker 1: a discussion of the air, okay.
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  Speaker 4: Usually when I drive up, I wait for Mosa to
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  Speaker 4: drive up because I like to see him and ug
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  Speaker 4: him and say hi, brother, let's walk in together.
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  Speaker 1: At me.
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  Speaker 2: He likes to hank at me when I'm not expecting.
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  Speaker 2: It caused me to jump.
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  Speaker 4: But I've waited, and I said, Mosa is going to
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  Speaker 4: be late today. You don't want to talk about your
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: It, Okay, you know it's going to cause thathtt would
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  Speaker 1: have hurt me to talk about it. He wrecked his car.
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  Speaker 1: I did not.
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  Speaker 3: Can I start the show by wishing a happy fourth
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  Speaker 3: birthday to my beautiful baby girl? Yes, baby Jamal Kale
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  Speaker 3: four years old? Four?
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  Speaker 1: Believe it? It's insane. Does she ever a driver? Beautiful
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  Speaker 1: baby boy? Does she what she's next thing? You know?
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  Speaker 3: She's going to be in college. Bro, you said, does
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  Speaker 3: she have a driver's license? So she got for Christmas
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  Speaker 3: from Sanna a big pink jeep wrangler. Yeah, she's got
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  Speaker 3: a driver's license. She cruises that thing, dude, it happens fast.
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  Speaker 1: Just beware. Happy rest, Happy birthday, baby girl.
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  Speaker 3: Oh I was I had this thought earlier in the
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  Speaker 3: NBA postseason, and I wanted to save it.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I want to see if this continues.
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  Speaker 3: And it has who would you consider the top three
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  Speaker 3: teams in the NBA? I mean, obviously we have the
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  Speaker 3: top two now, but who was the third team that
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  Speaker 3: you would consider in that top three category?
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  Speaker 1: In the top three?
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  Speaker 3: See yeah, okay, see they have to be there. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: see San Antonio Knicks.
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  Speaker 1: But at this juncture, sure all three.
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  Speaker 3: Of them did something this postseason, and I was like,
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  Speaker 3: as this continues to get longer and longer into it,
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  Speaker 3: I want to see what happens, especially in Game one
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  Speaker 3: in the Final, and they continued to do it.
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  Speaker 1: You know what that was? Both teams still ran ten deep.
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  Speaker 1: Last night. I got like Landry Schemet got thirty three minutes.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, last night, Shammick. I heard schamt it's Landry Shammitt whatever.
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  Speaker 3: And I know that he has a history here of
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  Speaker 3: Christmas Day and what Air Gordon did to him a
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  Speaker 3: couple of years ago. But it's a very stark contrast
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  Speaker 3: from what the Nuggets have done, not just this year,
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  Speaker 3: but in years previous two. I think depth and utilizing
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  Speaker 3: depth in the postseason is a necessity. And you look
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  Speaker 3: at the players that played last night and again game
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  Speaker 3: one of the NBA Final.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think that Luke.
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  Speaker 3: Cornett is necessarily a name of somebody that you would
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  Speaker 3: say that guy's gotta play. That guy's played every game.
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  Speaker 3: He got ten minutes last night for the Spurs. He's
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  Speaker 3: averaged about fourteen minutes a game in the postseason. If
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  Speaker 3: Luke Cornett played for the Nuggets, would he play, Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: he'd be.
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  Speaker 1: A backup big. He played the Yonis down Shutis role. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but Yonis didn't play.
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  Speaker 2: Oh.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, That's what I'm getting at, though, I think,
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  Speaker 3: like what I'm saying is, by.
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  Speaker 4: The way, I have an idea for a backup big
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  Speaker 4: for the Nuggets. It's a grand idea.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, hang on to it for ji second will But
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  Speaker 3: I look at some of the names of guys that
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  Speaker 3: played last night, and I go if they were on
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  Speaker 3: the Nuggets roster with those guys be playing in Game
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  Speaker 3: one of the NBA Final had the Nuggets made it,
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  Speaker 3: and my inclinations to say no, but I guess the
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  Speaker 3: proper answer is I don't know, but they wouldn't be
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  Speaker 3: going ten deep. And I think that's a problem, and
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  Speaker 3: I don't know how that changes.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I've discussed this before. There feels like both
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  Speaker 3: with Malone and with David Adelman, this problem exists in
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  Speaker 3: its circular Why doesn't the guy play because I don't
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  Speaker 3: trust him?
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  Speaker 1: Why do you not trust him because the guy doesn't play?
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  Speaker 1: Why does it? And it just goes on and on
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  Speaker 1: that way, how does that get fixed?
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  Speaker 3: Because it feels like this is what good teams do.
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  Speaker 1: They have depth.
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  Speaker 3: The Nuggets went out of their way last year to
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  Speaker 3: produce depth for this roster, and it feels like it
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  Speaker 3: wasn't used.
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  Speaker 1: So how do you fix that just doing it or what?
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  Speaker 2: That's a good boy, but it's also it's uh, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's such a It is a good question. The problem
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  Speaker 2: is Brett your depth when AG can't go, when you're
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  Speaker 2: dealing with, you know, with significant injury and pe.
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  Speaker 1: Watts out of the rotation.
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  Speaker 2: Now you're talking about guys who are eleven twelve guys
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  Speaker 2: now trying to fit into your nine to ten role.
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  Speaker 3: I see that argument, and I hear it, and I'll
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  Speaker 3: raise you to Minnesota. Okay, Minnesota had guys out, they
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  Speaker 3: still went tending you.
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  Speaker 2: You always see this is your problem. Let me tell
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  Speaker 2: you about your problems, because your problems become my problems.
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  Speaker 1: Why is that? Because you're sitting next to me and
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  Speaker 1: you annoy me. Every team is different.
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  Speaker 2: Now you talk about the depth and oh, the depth
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  Speaker 2: looks so great, and so on and so forth.
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  Speaker 1: It's also key depth at what position is the depth?
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  Speaker 2: Having AG and p Watt both out true in the
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  Speaker 2: front court is a problem.
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  Speaker 1: Now, if you're talking about backcourt.
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  Speaker 2: Depth and you want to throw you know, Brucey be
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  Speaker 2: out there for more minutes, blah blah blah. You know,
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  Speaker 2: then move in, Jalen. I mean, it depends on where
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  Speaker 2: it happens. In my opinion, I'm not totally disagreeing with you.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just saying that when you're dealing with major injury.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, Mitchell Robinson did play thirteen minutes last night,
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  Speaker 2: they don't have anybody out neither.
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  Speaker 1: If you're dealing with major injury, then your rotation.
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  Speaker 2: If you want to keep it ten guys, you're dealing
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  Speaker 2: with guys who typically wouldn't see the floor.
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  Speaker 3: I'll get more specific with it, please, because this is
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  Speaker 3: the one example that always confused me for the Nuggets
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  Speaker 3: during the postseason and really over the course of the
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  Speaker 3: regular season. Do you think if Julian Strather played for
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  Speaker 3: either of those teams last night that he plays because
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  Speaker 3: I think he would. I think he'd play for both
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  Speaker 3: of them. Now, I'm not saying twenty five minutes, but
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  Speaker 3: I bet he get on the floor for ten twelve.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not sure he plays for San Antonio no.
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  Speaker 1: No, there's no way he gets in that rotation. Zero chance. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: they got a bunch of gyuards, bro Yeah, no chance
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  Speaker 1: he gets in that rotation. Think he might. Hell, they
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  Speaker 1: played Darren Fox ahead.
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  Speaker 4: Of of Zach what's his name?
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  Speaker 1: The rookie?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, Dylan Harper. I'm sorry, still, Dylan Harper. I thought
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  Speaker 4: it was a stub last night and there and they're
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  Speaker 4: playing darreon Fox who was missing?
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  Speaker 1: Harper played boatload of minutes last night. Yeah, it was.
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  Speaker 4: But he should have finished, is what I'm saying. He
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  Speaker 4: should have finished the game because I I don't see him.
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  Speaker 4: I don't see Strather carving out any minutes in San Antonio.
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  Speaker 4: And I'll ask you this. You mean to tell me
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  Speaker 4: you're gonna play Julian Strather and SANTOI take a look
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  Speaker 4: at their bench players and tell me who he's gonna
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  Speaker 4: play over. Take a look at their bench guards. Tell
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  Speaker 4: me no, I'm talking about the Knicks. He wouldn't get
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  Speaker 4: any minutes in New York either, none, now that I think.
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  Speaker 4: Let's see, he's not playing ahead of Jordan Clark. He's
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  Speaker 4: not playing ahead of Jordan Clarks. And I can tell
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  Speaker 4: you that right now, and he's not playing again ahead
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  Speaker 4: of the McBride.
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  Speaker 1: He's not playing ahead of him. Okay, if they didn't
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  Speaker 1: have Clarkson.
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  Speaker 4: And they had all Right, So what you're getting at is.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'm not just gonna add guys to already their
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  Speaker 3: depth that's on there already.
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  Speaker 1: Here's who you have. Would you play him? But he's
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  Speaker 1: what you have? Yeah, so your original question is will
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  Speaker 1: you give minutes? No? Should he have? For the Nuggets?
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  Speaker 1: I guess there's a better way to put it. And
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  Speaker 1: I would have played them more. Yes, I would have.
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  Speaker 1: But they have the reasons.
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  Speaker 4: They lack defense, they lacked scoring to like, they couldn't
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  Speaker 4: score that.
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  Speaker 1: Ask me why Strather, I'll be vic.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, ask me why why did Strather not play?
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  Speaker 1: Reasons? But I understand where you're coming from. I do.
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  Speaker 3: I just think it's interesting that those teams they go
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  Speaker 3: to their depth, Like in Game one of the NBA Finals,
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  Speaker 3: ten guys for both teams played ten guys, and the
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  Speaker 3: Nuggets for years it's been like seven, maybe eight would
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  Speaker 3: get on the floor.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: It's frustrating when you see somebody play well in the
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  Speaker 4: regular season and then not play at all or very
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  Speaker 4: minimally in the postseason, especially Strawther who they don't beat
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  Speaker 4: San Antonio in that finale. Remember when they went San
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  Speaker 4: Antonio with their B team. How well he played, yep,
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  Speaker 4: how well he played against the San Antonio starters might
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  Speaker 4: do so.
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  Speaker 1: I agree.
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  Speaker 4: I thought I thought he should have taken a lot
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  Speaker 4: of those CB minutes when CB was struggling offensively.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it gets to which game was it? VIC
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  Speaker 1: was a Game two? I think it was Game two.
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  Speaker 3: The Nuggets blew the lead, and we were talking about
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  Speaker 3: the next day it looked like the guys retired at
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  Speaker 3: the end of the fourth quarter. I'm like, that can't happen.
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  Speaker 3: They can't happen. When you've addressed depth as your big
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  Speaker 3: thing that you want to to sort of rectify in
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  Speaker 3: the offseason, we can't be talking about fatigue as the
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  Speaker 3: reason why you lose it the end of a game.
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  Speaker 3: And so it's just it's something that I had noticed
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  Speaker 3: throughout the course of this playoffs, and I was curious
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  Speaker 3: that I was going to continue when it was look,
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  Speaker 3: nothing matters more than the NBA Final right now, moj
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  Speaker 3: and they're still going ten deep.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, man, pieces that matter though, Can I
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  Speaker 4: can invite you an idea for what the Nuggets can
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  Speaker 4: do moving forward. Sure, we talked so much about rim protection, right,
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  Speaker 4: they need a rim protector at some point in key moments.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So.
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  Speaker 4: We asked on a couple occasions, can the Nuggets play
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  Speaker 4: Joker and Valentiunis at the same time?
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  Speaker 1: And I just don't think it.
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  Speaker 4: Was very effective when they tried it. It just didn't
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  Speaker 4: agree for whatever reasons. All right, too slow to get
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  Speaker 4: to the perimeter.
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  Speaker 1: It just didn't work.
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  Speaker 4: So you have to find a guy who can play
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  Speaker 4: that position, who can back up Joker, but at the
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  Speaker 4: same time, when you need it, you can put him
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  Speaker 4: on the court with Joe.
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  Speaker 2: Let him go out there, yeah, do his thing independently,
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  Speaker 2: and then has to be able to play with It
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  Speaker 2: has to be it's got to be who the hell
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  Speaker 2: is that?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean, given the fact that now there are
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  Speaker 4: a lot of levers here. With my idea, the only
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  Speaker 4: way you can get the guys I want to get
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  Speaker 4: is you've got to free up one of your top
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  Speaker 4: salaries to get the guys I.
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  Speaker 1: Want to get, Okay, And that's the only way to
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  Speaker 1: do it. So you're talking about Jamal.
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  Speaker 4: Well, whatever you have to do to get there because
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  Speaker 4: presently constituted, they can't get there, they can't sign Look
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  Speaker 4: at last night Mitchell Robinson in his minutes.
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  Speaker 1: Look at the role he's played for the Knicks.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, when Kat wasn't playing great defense, there's Mitchell Robinson
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  Speaker 4: doing the same thing. Mitchell Robinson makes fifteen million a year.
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  Speaker 4: That's a steal compared.
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  Speaker 1: To some players.
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  Speaker 4: It's a lot of money, though, compare him to other
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  Speaker 4: players and the roles they play.
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  Speaker 1: I understand what you're saying, I dig it. But who's
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  Speaker 1: the name? What are you thinking of?
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  Speaker 4: Well? I got several names. But you're not gonna be
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  Speaker 4: able to afford him. You're not gonna be able to
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  Speaker 4: afford Robert Williams of the Portland Trail Blazers. He was
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  Speaker 4: an All defensive player in twenty twenty two. Can't afford him,
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  Speaker 4: can't put him on the team. Can't afford John Collins.
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  Speaker 4: You can't afford him unless you make massive moves. These
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  Speaker 4: are guys you cannot But those are players that I'm
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  Speaker 4: telling you.
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  Speaker 1: That would fit that bill, that would you could.
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  Speaker 4: Play backup center minutes and alongside Joker minutes.
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  Speaker 1: It's one of two things for me.
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  Speaker 3: You either have to do that or the reason why
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  Speaker 3: the loss of KCP a couple of years ago. If
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  Speaker 3: you guys remember they won the title the following year
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  Speaker 3: KCP he was still on the roster, But you guys
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  Speaker 3: remember what happened that postseason, Like you couldn't make a
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  Speaker 3: shot for two straight series and then you get bounced
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  Speaker 3: in seven by Minnesota. But he still was an excellent
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  Speaker 3: perimeter defender, fight through picks and screens, stay on his guy,
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  Speaker 3: that sort of thing. If there's one thing we know
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  Speaker 3: about Joker, Joker cannot rim protect.
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  Speaker 1: He just can't.
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  Speaker 3: I think athletically he's incapable of doing it, and so
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  Speaker 3: he makes the decision many times, which isn't great either,
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  Speaker 3: but maybe it's the smart one in his part. I
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  Speaker 3: can either contest this shot with the limited athleticism that
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  Speaker 3: I have and risk getting three fouls in the first quarter,
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  Speaker 3: or I'll just let them getting easy too, so I
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  Speaker 3: don't get a foul. And I think a lot of
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  Speaker 3: times he chooses the latter, which means you need people
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  Speaker 3: to stick on the perimeter and not get blown by.
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  Speaker 3: It's the easiest bucket somebody's gonna find when people are hunting.
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  Speaker 3: Jamal Murray in one on one situations. It's not necessarily
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to beat Jamal, It's I'm gonna beat Jamal
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  Speaker 3: because I know that Joker can't stop.
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  Speaker 1: Me at the rim.
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  Speaker 3: And that's a big problem because it wasn't just him,
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  Speaker 3: it was him and Christian Brown was getting blown by
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  Speaker 3: and Tim Hardaway.
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  Speaker 1: It talked about this yesterday. It's a too pronged issue. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Now, I mentioned some of the big names that are paid,
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  Speaker 4: right there's other names out there, lesser players who you
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  Speaker 4: can get for you know, argon basement prices.
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  Speaker 1: And these are two of them right here. Larry Nantz Jr.
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  Speaker 1: Hm hmm. He's not gonna steal any headlines.
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  Speaker 4: Dwight Powell. Familiar with Dwight Powell, been in Dallas forever.
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  Speaker 4: He's not gonna steal any headlines. He can block a shot.
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  Speaker 4: I would not gonna be a study. But you're gonna
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  Speaker 4: need more of those guys if you don't address the
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  Speaker 4: perimeter defense.
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  Speaker 2: So take your pick, man, and I get this is
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  Speaker 2: probably a fault of mine. I start to get into
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  Speaker 2: the mode where you don't really need super stud You
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  Speaker 2: don't need super stud backups, you don't need the super
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  Speaker 2: stud dep Yeah, you need you need specific guys to
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  Speaker 2: fit your particular puzzle.
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  Speaker 1: Like Hardaway was a perfect equias. Absolutely, he was role quick,
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  Speaker 1: I mean quick trigger.
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  Speaker 4: And somebody asked me yesterday, don't guys want to play
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  Speaker 4: with joker guys like Hardaway do because he spreads the floor.
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  Speaker 1: And gets you over. Absolutely, it gives him good looks.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that it's and you don't need these super studs.
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  Speaker 2: You just need the right pieces. I think with some
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  Speaker 2: teams when you when you don't have it, when you
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  Speaker 2: don't have a Nicola Jokic who's such a unique specimen,
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  Speaker 2: it's easy to say, Okay, well let's throw this big
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  Speaker 2: out there and let's get this depth and you know
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  Speaker 2: you you miss it together and you make it work.
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  Speaker 2: But with this guy to play with him, or with
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  Speaker 2: him or instead of him, that's a unique fit.
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  Speaker 3: Three oh three five O four O nine two five.
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  Speaker 3: We have some adio from the Chris McFarland pressure yesterday
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  Speaker 3: and a question that dmac asked.
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  Speaker 1: And I wonder how people feel about this because.
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  Speaker 3: It's something that hangs out there in other sports that
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  Speaker 3: I think is a big deal in not quite as
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  Speaker 3: big for his role in hockey.
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  Speaker 1: And we'll get to it next.
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  Speaker 5: I want to start by saying, I'm really appreciative to
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  Speaker 5: the AVS to I think, doing the right thing for
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  Speaker 5: somebody that they had a great appreciation for. And I'll
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  Speaker 5: say up front, they didn't let.
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  Speaker 1: Him go easily.
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  Speaker 5: They were, you know, they were very eager to keep
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  Speaker 5: Chris there.
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  Speaker 3: Understandably, that's Bill Haslam. First of all, he sounds like
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  Speaker 3: Jerry Jones thirty years younger.
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: I'm not trying to get provincial here, and I don't
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: mean this as a knock. Maybe I do, I don't.
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: I mean this with all sincerity and respect because I
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: lived and worked in the South. I lived and worked
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: in Texas. I have nothing but respect the kindest people,
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: beautiful people the entire South. When I hear a Southern
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: drawl talking hockey, it just doesn't fit.
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: I want to start by and I'm really appreciative to
• 17:01
  Speaker 5: the AVS to telling for somebody that they had a
• 17:05
  Speaker 5: great appreciation for. And I'll say up front, just a little.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: Bit, listen to the questions coming in motion, and again,
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: I I know it doesn't matter, and I know in
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: the grand scheme of things, I'm gonna get tattooed for this,
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: and and rightfully, so if I hear a Southern draw
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: talk football that raight goward coming.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: That's fine. I can't with I just I can't. Why
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Why is that motionre? Why can't I It's a disassociation.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: It's a disassociation.
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: You don't associate hockey with Southern so when the two
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: come together, it seems like an incredible.
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Disassociation to you. Your brain can't your brain can't put
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: it together.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: Correct, I can't hang on. I'll give you a perfect
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: example of vic. I just watched this interview as this
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: UFC fighter's names Bryce Mitchell. He is he is country, okay,
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: big accent. Everything, I forget even the question. I think
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: it's about the fight that's gonna happen to the White
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: House or something. And he goes on this two minute
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: answer and he goes, well, I gotta tell you, I
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: got a degree in economics, and I'm gonna like he
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: started going off on I have a lot of political
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: knowledge in the economics realm, but did it in that
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: accent as a UFC fighter?
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, wouldn't have guessed that, not at all. Yeah,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: it's something you don't expect. I understand, And and vic
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: to your point.
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: When when the Rapids introduced Matt Wells as their new
• 18:29
  Speaker 6: head coach and he started talking in a British accent,
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: I went that guy knows soccer.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Guy, I trust him. Yeah, you're so right there. And
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: no offense to Matt.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: He could be, he could be dumb as a stick
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: about soccer, but his accent as us as Americans make
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: us think.
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: Guys, if he uses the Lincoln, he goes, but going
• 18:47
  Speaker 6: to fail to top side.
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: Done. They're winning every game. I've told you.
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: If I go to a Greek food truck and I
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: get myself a Euro and the guy has a Greek accent,
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: it tastes better.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't know what's it tastes better.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: It's all psychological, man, It's all in your brain, bro,
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: It's all your brain.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Here's the I have two questions. So the answer is no,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: can't play hockey in Nashville. Nope. So that's it. We're done.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: No out.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: I have two questions regarding the press conference. One of
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: them is something that dmac posted yesterday and Seemac was
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: asked about the timeline for the hiring.
• 19:24
  Speaker 7: He said this, When the job came open, did you
• 19:27
  Speaker 7: kind of say to yourself, Man, this is one I'd
• 19:30
  Speaker 7: like to get in the middle of. When did you
• 19:33
  Speaker 7: find out they were interested in? When did y'all do this?
• 19:39
  Speaker 8: The answer your first part, No, right, like the job.
• 19:42
  Speaker 8: You know, Barry's a good friend of mine and we've
• 19:45
  Speaker 8: chatted numerous numerous times over over the years and and
• 19:49
  Speaker 8: made a few deals together. So no, I'm in Colorado
• 19:53
  Speaker 8: and super excited and super content to work with Joe
• 19:58
  Speaker 8: and we were trying to do a we were trying
• 20:00
  Speaker 8: to do, so that was my focus on you know,
• 20:04
  Speaker 8: I think Bill and I had long chat yesterday and
• 20:08
  Speaker 8: Nick and Sean and Michelle and the group. So you know,
• 20:12
  Speaker 8: when you get word that a team has reached out,
• 20:14
  Speaker 8: like Bill said, there's I have a contract. I was
• 20:17
  Speaker 8: super happy there, but it was it was a whirlwind
• 20:20
  Speaker 8: for sure.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: So first of all, when did he find out that
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: this job was going to be open?
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Probably most a month two months ago. Well, let me
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: tell you, Barry Trotz.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: He didn't step down, but he announced that he was done,
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: that he's going to retire after this year on February second.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, which is four months ago.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: And that's when, right, So that's when the job that's
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: when every executive around the league. I'm sure I'm not
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: saying they perked up, but people know. Oh okay, so
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: the Nashville job is going to be open. I got
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: my own thing going on right now. I'm busy right now.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: But that's something to think about in the off season.
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Perhaps, Like if I started, uh my own radio podcast
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: network and I wanted you to be on it motion
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: and your contract wasn't up for another four months, would
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: we have had a conversation or two before your contract
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: was up.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, I'm sure we probably would.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: So just like just like this, Hey, uh, you know
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Steve Jones at WFA in New York.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: He's going to retire, you know, at the end of September. Yeah,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: he is a sound bite talking about the coaches.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: What.
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Oh so I thought I was talking to Nelly. I
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: thought I had the button down. You did not.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: So you've been talking to Nellie this whole segment. Notice
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: how I don't I don't get on your ass.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: No, because this is very important. Okay, So Steve Jones
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: going to retire the inn a September.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: You think you don't think that every guy in New
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: York and Gallon, New York and everybody like, hey.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Man, Steve gonna be gone in September. It's interesting, you know.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: But here's here's what dmac asked. And I do think
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: this matters in other sports, slash positions in other sports.
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: But dmac ass is it a problem if he's doing
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: this negotiating as the as in the playoffs, which he
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: probably was, who cares? That's my response. In most I
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: don't want to sound like disrespectful to their jobs, because
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: I know there's a million things they have to do.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: But at that point in the calendar, isn't their job
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: kind of like mine? You're just kind of watching his
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: work is done. The rosters set thede has been cast,
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: and now it's just like whatever happens happens. There's no
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: trade you're gonna make on May twentieth, correct, I.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Mean they just signed they just signed a kid out
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: of the the VHL KHL. Right, you know that kind
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: of thing, right, Uh, But this is minor stuff compared
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: to you sit back and you chew your fingernails.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: I have and go, come on, guys, it's it's tough.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: It's very tough.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: No cares whatsoever. I'll tell you where I do think
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: it matters. I think it matters advance Joseph and Davis
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: Webb have, you know, for head coaching interviews to do
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: in the middle of a playoff prep week. That's the
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: problems that and that can be a distraction for sure.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: And I'm not holding that against them at all. It's
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: just the quirk of the calendar in the NFL. But
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: if we're talking about your game planning for a do
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: or die game against the Buffalo Bills, where you're trying
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: to figure out how do I stop Josh Allen and
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: I have to spend hours researching teams for this potential
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: head coaching job that I'm going to take, and let's
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: say get two or three in a week. That's a
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: lot of time away from your job.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: That stuff matter.
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: You could tell from that press conference, and and I
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: watched a lot of it.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: He labored in taking that. That was not an easy move.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: It was a tough choice.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: You're right, I told you on this very program. He
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: loved his job here, He loved the organization, you know,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: loves Joe and Jared. I mean, he'd been here for
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: quite a long time. He worked his butt off.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: But in sometimes you have to understand your role here,
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: like maybe he goes to a place where the ownership
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: really micro manages everything he does. He doesn't know that
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: he loved his situation here because they were pretty independent
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: on what they did and how they did it totally.
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: He also you could hear it almost sounded like he
• 24:31
  Speaker 3: was going to shed some tears when talking about Joe.
• 24:33
  Speaker 9: To Joe deb in the entire Sacking family. I know
• 24:39
  Speaker 9: you guys are going through a tough heavy lifting spot
• 24:42
  Speaker 9: with the passing of claudelm You. I just want to,
• 24:46
  Speaker 9: you know, give you my condolences and we're thinking of you. Joe,
• 24:50
  Speaker 9: you took a flyer on me eleven years ago. You
• 24:53
  Speaker 9: actually listened to Craig Billington. I know you guys probably
• 24:56
  Speaker 9: don't know biller but he's a huge part of the
• 24:59
  Speaker 9: fabric and and that Denver organization. Was a long time
• 25:02
  Speaker 9: goalie and assistant GM at the time, and he kind
• 25:05
  Speaker 9: of connected me and Joe, and Joe was a mentor
• 25:10
  Speaker 9: and a lifelong friend, massive for me and my career,
• 25:16
  Speaker 9: and I will miss him.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: It's very nice and it's very true. I mean, that's
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: all that. All that is what we talked about. All
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: of this is from the heart and all that is accurate.
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: So he's getting a great opportunity with the Preds. I mean,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: this is vic This is a I can't pass it
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: up type of opportunity, can't He's.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Been given everything, yes, full power.
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: The ABS could have easily said no, uh, you ain't
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: touching him, you ain't talking to him, you ain't gonna
• 25:46
  Speaker 4: make him any offers.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: But they didn't.
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: They let him go because they saw that the guy
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: had an opportunity he otherwise would not get here now,
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: which leads to another question Jared Bednar and the coaching staff.
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: Does this sound Chris McFarland had he stayed, Does this
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: sound like a guy when you're about to hear this
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: who was sour on Jared Bednar and his future in Denver?
• 26:10
  Speaker 9: Listen, eleven years we had very very few coaches, but
• 26:15
  Speaker 9: Jared Bednar is one of the best, best people, great coach.
• 26:21
  Speaker 9: He knows what I.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Think of him.
• 26:24
  Speaker 9: Nolan Pratt, U c Parkla brett heimle like Mark Popovic,
• 26:28
  Speaker 9: Dave Hackstall. It was an honor to work with you guys,
• 26:32
  Speaker 9: and I know the Apps are in great hands there
• 26:35
  Speaker 9: and we'll continue to be up right there.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: And they sort of let the cat out of the
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: bag coaching staff. Right, yeah, he knows something someone else doesn't.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Well, say this go further.
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: What do you mean by that they're going to be
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: in good hands? He just referenced the entire coaching staff.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: They're going to be in good hands. That sounds like
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: a guy who was hatty stayed in Denver. He didn't
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: seem like he was gonna.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Make any you're talking about.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Like people wondered, was there a rift with bed nine
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: between Sackeic and him and they disagree.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like they disagree at all. No, I
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: don't think so.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: Now I had another question, and this is gotten really
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: good at this because these questions make mose you're mad,
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: which makes me even happier.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: I'm just thinking about some of the fans who want change.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: I understand you want to put your finger on it,
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: you want you want to win and you think you
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: know the reason why, or you want to kneed jerk
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: at whatever. I guess my I've tried to lay it
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: out the best I possibly can, and perhaps I've done
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: a poor job. But Brett, you heard him, McKinnon said
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: before the playoffs, Right, yep, you know how Joe feels.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Chris McFarlane feels. Are these smart hockey people?
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Seemed to me? Do they understand the winning and the losing? Think?
• 28:04
  Speaker 5: So?
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Do they want to win? I think so? Well, if
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: they all want Jared, then well yeah, are they all dumbed?
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: Maybe they're all dummy? This is this is decided. Well,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: you understand what I'm saying. It's like the fire the coach.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Well, perhaps there's more to it than than people realize.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: Well, here's the second part of the question. And this
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: is an impossible question to answer, and it's gonna make
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: motion mad because of that.
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm gonna I'm gonna answer it. I'm
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: going to answer it forcefully. I'm gonna just get it.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Do it.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: Is there any chance you think if the av season
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: goes the way that we hoped and thought it would,
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: which would result in them beating Vegas, going on the
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: Stanley Cup Final, beating Carolina, hoisting another cup, that he
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: doesn't move. No, so you don't think that the result
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: of the season at all affects this decision?
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: No, Okay, not at all.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: I think if anything, it probably makes him more attractive
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: to Nashville.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: But I think this.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Bred again the opportunity that he has here the really
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: to build it in his you know, in his vision. Yeah,
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: it is huge. I mean he's got more power, more money,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: more prestige, more everything. This is really good for him.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: This is a dream job for probably a lot of
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: gms who don't have the ultimate president power. Sure, this
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: is a really this is a big deal, not only
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: for Chris McFarland, but for the Nashville Predators as well.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: It's a big deal. This is important higher.
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Of course, I just don't know. The only reason I
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: asked the question is when you say you're content and
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: comfortable in this spot, if you add on top of
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: that another win and a chance for our summer of
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: partying again and doing all of that, does that make
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: it think maybe I just stick it out for maybe
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: another year, maybe we can get a third one.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: No, okay, because opportunities like this just don't come around
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: that often, Vick.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: You talked about it yesterday.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: This type of job, this unique situation, it's very rare.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: And when you get into pro sports, when you get
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: into coaching, when you get in the front office, when
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: you get into sports in general, you automatically assume a
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: nomadic life. Correct motion, Like you walk into a vagabond lifestyle,
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: you're gonna be picking up and leaving with your family.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: Well they called it. Is it the thing with the
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: band dan on a stick? Is it a bindle?
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Is that what they call it? Hobo?
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: I don't know, but that's that's the life you lead,
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: whether by choice or by someone else's choice. You know
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: that there's a shelf life to every stay. Sure, I
• 30:56
  Speaker 4: don't know about you guys, And I know everybody has
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: moved here, everybody moved around. I've worked in four different markets.
• 31:04
  Speaker 4: I hate that I will never leave to another job.
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: I came back home to stay home. I will I
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: will never ever leave to another job anywhere else ever, ever.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Ever, Well at this point of your life, well, of course,
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: but I thought that way when I when.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: I Yeah, when you were twenty eight, you went out.
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: I got back in Denver at the age of thirty.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: I said, I will never leave here.
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Right, So.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: When you have that built in that you know this
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: is what I do, and I'm going to go to
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: the best opportunity, even if it means picking up and
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: leaving to another city.
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: It's tough, man.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, nobody knows that life better than the dude
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: who sits in your chair after us.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, what did he say.
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: He's he moved like thirteen times in fourteen years or
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: something like something wild like.
• 31:47
  Speaker 6: That his daughter had been to eleven schools by the
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: time she was thirteen or something like that.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: That's insane. She's a good kid. That's a really good kid.
• 31:55
  Speaker 10: Uh.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: But at the same time, he's had stability here in Denver.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's been here quite a long time. Hopefully
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: for him, he'll be in Nashville for a long time.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: That means they're winning, and that means it sucks for
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: the Avs. But if Nashville is winning, it's just one
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: more team you gotta freaking get through to get.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: A You don't need to curse.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: I feel like I need to right now. It's not
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: out of my system.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Vic when listeners, I'm not even gonna ask you guys,
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: because you guys don't have any sort of compass, a
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: moral compass. No, you got a moral compass, but you
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: don't have any F word compass, A sailor's compass, sailors compass.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: I like that.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: A sextant sextant You say, I want to have sextant
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: when when should I want to have Colin Sexton?
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, you just say I had sex?
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: When when do I get to the point where when
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: talking about this, I don't have the F word right
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: here wanting to fly out of my.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Mouth talking about what the apps? This run?
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, this lag this, this, this is gonna last until
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: game one next week because I've gotten Brett.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is real easy for me to go. No,
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, I can't tell you one.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: It's like breathing air. It's very close, and I don't
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: know when the F is going to recede because the
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: F is right out there in front.
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: I got a good news for you, Stanley Cup Final
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Game two is tonight, and you can hear that right
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: here in Altitude Sports Radio ninety two five at six o'clock.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit later in the show, dude, I
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: wanted to understand you understand it still hurts, right.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: I understand it's still okays a little bit later in
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: the show, maybe not next We're gonna need some time.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Did you guys happen to watch the three three plus
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: minutes of Russell Wilson's.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Video that he sent out yesterday?
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: And I want to know how long into the three
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: plus minutes.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Did you decide that's enough for me? I specifically avoided it. Oh,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: you have it all, so we have.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: So I specifically avoided it because I in my head,
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: I know exactly what.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: Wait did no? No?
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: I commented on I said, great career, but I'd never
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: pushed play.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: Okay, well, Nelly, We're gonna push play and see how
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: long these guys can last.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: Next. All right, to the.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: Surprise of nobody. Russell Wilson's football.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Career is done.
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: He has made the transition out of the broadcast booth
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: maybe the most predictable thing you could have thought of.
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: But he sends out a video yesterday that is sort
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: of a an homage to his NFL career.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: This guy, Is he a chameleon? That's my question to you.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Is he a chameleon?
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: What do you mean?
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Because I think I can imagine what this is going
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: to sound like. I've not listened to it yet, but
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: I remember the video of he and his lovely wife
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: in bed when he signed the contract in Seattle. Mm hmm, Okay,
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: that's one Russ. I'm trying to imagine what this Russ
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: is going to sound like. Okay, I think i've pretty
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: much nailed it in my head.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: But here we go, So Nelly, if you could, let's
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: see if you notice a couple of themes to this. Uh,
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: this video that he sent out first of all, just started, Nelly,
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: go ahead.
• 35:40
  Speaker 11: I remember the moment I found in love with football,
• 35:43
  Speaker 11: waking up before sunrise with my dad and brother, deep
• 35:46
  Speaker 11: post routes and moonballs. Yeah, that's where it all begins.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: It stopped stuff for saying, stopped too much production.
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: Too much production, fi, I feel like toy too snazzy?
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: What it?
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: Dude makes his own thirty for already crap to say, audios,
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: that's horse feathers.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: I can't even imagine what Lebron's.
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: I mean, this snazzier than the thing I put together
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: for my dad. It took me twenty hours.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Can I ask you when it freaking Academy Award? Do
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: you think that he when he did that? Laugh, throw
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: and move alls?
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Dad?
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: How many takes do you think that he had written
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: in the script? Laugh? Here?
• 36:23
  Speaker 8: All right?
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: Anyway?
• 36:23
  Speaker 11: Continue, But somewhere along the way, I love for football
• 36:29
  Speaker 11: turn to more than just passion. It was an obsession.
• 36:37
  Speaker 11: You've been my joy in peace in my safe place.
• 36:40
  Speaker 11: You taught me discipline, faith and resilience. How to keep
• 36:44
  Speaker 11: believing no matter the circumstances. You've given me purpose and opportunity,
• 36:48
  Speaker 11: opportunity to inspire others and create change, to continue to
• 36:51
  Speaker 11: evolve the game, not just for me, but for the
• 36:54
  Speaker 11: next generation.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: I pause, pause, pause, pause, pause, real quick pause pause.
• 36:58
  Speaker 4: You know, listen, I'm not one of those guys a
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: pile on Russ because I really appreciates's career.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: I'm ready a pile on the syrup here is just
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: too syrupy. I don't like just too syrupy. You could
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: just do your normal speaking voice.
• 37:12
  Speaker 10: We don't have to go all the way down.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: What if he had done that is in bed voice
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: that he had that morning? What what if he changed
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: the voice, the tone.
• 37:20
  Speaker 10: Let's ride and became an obsession.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: I remember I was just a little kid. What if
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: you had done it in your Spanish cologne voice?
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: Ell?
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: He boosts my mic Oh God, here we go.
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: This is how you should have done it, Russ. If
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: you want to really make a name for you, we
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: need we need the music.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: To go along with it.
• 37:40
  Speaker 10: Yes, somewhere along the way football was less of a hobby.
• 37:50
  Speaker 10: What were more of an obsession? My life revolved around
• 37:58
  Speaker 10: the seasty minutes you play on the field. It's the
• 38:04
  Speaker 10: moon ball be used now. It's all I was consumed with.
• 38:13
  Speaker 10: And then.
• 38:15
  Speaker 12: I met a beautiful sight yeah name Sia within canto
• 38:24
  Speaker 12: my life, and I didn't care no more about moonbows.
• 38:28
  Speaker 12: I cared about the other things.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: That's how the video. Oh God, that's so much better.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Should we finish this fire out? There is something I
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: want you guys to hear, So yeah, go.
• 38:39
  Speaker 11: Ahead, giving me the greatest gift of all family, Every
• 38:45
  Speaker 11: coach who believed in me, you helped shape me into the
• 38:48
  Speaker 11: man I am today. The coach Carol, thanks for taking
• 38:53
  Speaker 11: a chance on young five to eleven black kid from Richmond,
• 38:56
  Speaker 11: Virginia starts told he was too small to ever make
• 38:59
  Speaker 11: it in the NFL. We knew what winning was like.
• 39:05
  Speaker 11: And to every teammate I've had the privilege of sharing
• 39:07
  Speaker 11: in the locker room room, thank you for the sacrifices,
• 39:10
  Speaker 11: the brotherhood, the memories. None of this is possible without you.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Care.
• 39:15
  Speaker 11: Every fan who supported me to the highs and the lows,
• 39:18
  Speaker 11: Your belief, your energy, and your passion meant more than
• 39:20
  Speaker 11: you'll ever know. To Seattle. You raise sat not just
• 39:25
  Speaker 11: all the winds and crazy loud games, but also the
• 39:29
  Speaker 11: forever memories after we won the Super Bowl.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Your fee has super Bowl forty eight Champion.
• 39:34
  Speaker 11: But even more important the kids at Seattle Children's Hospital.
• 39:39
  Speaker 11: You gave me a belief, and I'm better tomorrow, and
• 39:43
  Speaker 11: hopefully I did the same for you.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: This is actually happening.
• 39:47
  Speaker 5: This.
• 39:49
  Speaker 11: To our four beautiful babies, and I hope I'm able
• 39:52
  Speaker 11: to give you what my father gave me, that feeling,
• 39:55
  Speaker 11: that dream for greatness, that belief to look at yourself
• 39:58
  Speaker 11: no matter what the world says.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: If you lost, still say yeah.
• 40:02
  Speaker 11: Why not you? There will be moments in life where
• 40:05
  Speaker 11: people tell you you're too small, too different, or just simply
• 40:09
  Speaker 11: not enough. Don't let others past their fears of greatness
• 40:12
  Speaker 11: upon you. Keep your faith strong, keep your heart strong,
• 40:16
  Speaker 11: wake up every day believing you can do great things
• 40:21
  Speaker 11: because greatness is already inside of you.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 40:25
  Speaker 11: As I entered this next chapter with CBS Sports in
• 40:28
  Speaker 11: the NFL today, I'm so blessed to continue doing what
• 40:31
  Speaker 11: I love most, being around the greatest game in the world. Dad,
• 40:37
  Speaker 11: I thank you. I thank you for showing me what
• 40:39
  Speaker 11: is possible. I thank you Mom for your unconditional love.
• 40:44
  Speaker 11: I thank you Harry and Anna for your unwavering support,
• 40:49
  Speaker 11: and I thank you see and I thank you Sier for
• 40:51
  Speaker 11: being my greatest blessing, my best friend, to partner through
• 40:55
  Speaker 11: it all the game saying about you and thank you football.
• 41:02
  Speaker 11: I thank you, I thank you, I thank you. Yeah,
• 41:04
  Speaker 11: I am forever grateful.
• 41:07
  Speaker 5: Love.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: There you go, you made you made it the whole
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: love Russ. Yeah, I agree with him.
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: It's hard for me to knock the guy because I
• 41:20
  Speaker 4: genuinely appreciate him.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: I do, and he's not a bad guy.
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: I hate when people pile on him because I think
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: he had a great career.
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: I do. Is he a Hall of Famer?
• 41:31
  Speaker 5: No?
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know. It's going to be a borderline. You
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: know what's really just because you went to Super Bowl
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: doesnt mean you're a Hall of Fame.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: Hold On, If his career ended before the Broncos trade,
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: I think he probably is. I actually think it's a
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: rare case where the end of his career could hurt him.
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: I'm being dead serious about it too.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: Like and the reason I wanted you to hear all
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: that is that so he thanks Pete Carroll, you tried to.
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: Get fired by the way, that's why this strait happened.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: He thanks the Seahawks, He thanks to everybody in Seattle's family,
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: everything else. Do you think it was weird that he
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: didn't mention literally anybody else in that or no, there
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: was no thank you to I don't know, Hey, Walton
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: Penner group, thanks for the two hundred.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Mil or something, you know what I mean? Like, I mean,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: are you surprised? Wasn't exactly?
• 42:24
  Speaker 4: He didn't want to hold onto his era of Denver
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: Broncos football because.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: It was the end of the road for him. When
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: did his career go south?
• 42:32
  Speaker 11: The post routes and moonballs?
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: When did his career go south?
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: Let's see if we can put our finger on it,
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: because I know when it When did it go south?
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: When did it start? When did he start to lose it?
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: I mean obviously here are you looking like a specific moment?
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know that it was here? Noah, it was
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: in his last couple of years. Yeah, that's what it's
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: it started to really dissipate. Then, How is that possibly?
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: But the bloom come off the right? When did he
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: marry Sierra? I have no idea. Oh boy, here we go.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's when it happened. Dude.
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: He was playing good football still in Seattle, even at
• 43:10
  Speaker 3: the end of his career. And I know that because
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: Lebroncos traded an entire farm to get him and gave
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: him to one yeah ballion.
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: But that's because I think the the now dude idea
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: also as well. Maybe Pete Carroll's the problem now, see
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: I he came down between those two.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: Essentially.
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: I will argue this to my dying days. He came
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: into the league as an underdog, short king, blue collar
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: dude who did all the little things, and then he
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: got a taste of that celeb life. He got that
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: celeb life up and it changed everything. I think, you guys,
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: and it's not a knock on Sierra. She's a great
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: inter but he did not fit that part. It changed him.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, I don't think there's any question about that. But
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: you're saying when did things go wrong?
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: When? When did you say, did somebody look it up?
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: When he got married this year it was twenty sixteen.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: It's been a long time. I mean twenty sixteen he
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: was five years into his career.
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: Is it better the first five years of his career
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: of his career were better than the rest of those years.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: He had a forty touchdown season in twenty twenty two
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: years before the Broncos.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: All I'm saying is this, where did things go wrong?
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: I don't think they necessarily went wrong when he got
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: a taste of this level life. It went wrong his
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: first year in Denver, where he was made a punchline
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: every single week.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Here's that's where his entire perceptions danger.
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: What was your line of demarcation with Russ When did
• 44:34
  Speaker 4: you say, okay, I've seen it off To me, it
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: was a photo from Sicily in a swimming pool, him
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: half in the water, half out of the water, showing
• 44:44
  Speaker 4: him doing some off season ex It.
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: Was the the throwing. It was he throwing footballs to
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: palm trees.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: When I came that, when I.
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: Saw him in this exotic pool pool doing some sort
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: of calistenic I was like, okay, enough, I.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Had Gallas stuff, the Monaco stuff. Look, man, if I
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: can't say something nice, don't say anything at all. The
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: fact of the matter is, is everybody who just saw
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: that and heard that, everybody thinks it's cringe.
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: Well, if I had to put an all right, if
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: I had to put a specific date on it. It
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: was October twelfth of twenty twenty three. They lost to
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: the Chiefs. They were one in five to start that season.
• 45:28
  Speaker 3: The season was over before it began. A few weeks
• 45:31
  Speaker 3: before that, they lost seventy to twenty Miami. But in
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: that game, you lost nineteen to eight. Russell Wilson had
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: ninety five passing yards in that game. And if you remember,
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: that's right around the time that Sean Payton started saying.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: What if we put you on ion? Correct?
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: And he said, if you do that, we're gonna have
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: a big problem.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 45:48
  Speaker 3: And then what happened? They won five straight. Yeah, they
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: got themselves somehow, some way back in a playoff conversation.
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: And then when things really ended was that game against
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: New England. Got the early turnover, they started that drive
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: like the four yard line and got no points out
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: of it and they lost.
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: All agrees with me on the text line, I agree
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: with Vic Russell got yoko onod and I think there's
• 46:10
  Speaker 4: something to that.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Guys, there's something to smelling your own farts. It really is.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: It changes his approach to the game.
• 46:18
  Speaker 4: He got that celebrity lifestyle in his blood, and he.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Forgot who he was.
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: I know, But I look back at his career and
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: I say, Russell Wilson had a great career.
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: What a great career, and a great guy.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: He was always a great guy. He never said anything
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: bad about anybody. A great guy.
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: I really respect that because he could have taken shots
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: at a lot of people, but he held off.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: Great guy. But a lot of people took shots at him.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Why is that?
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: He's a great teammates took shot all my teammates. I'm
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: thinking of myself. How many of them turned away from
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: you just because of this exact kind of thing. Sure,
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe I'm wrong, I don't This is
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: my last opinion on it. I'm gonna shut up. I
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: don't think he was good enough to make his own
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: goodbye video.
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: I believe, sorry, sorry, Brett.
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: I believe his celebrity wife influenced him to the point
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: where he changed his stripes to an uncomfortable level that
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: was not him?
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: Could be? That is it? Five four nine two five
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: back after.
• 47:25
  Speaker 11: This deep post routes and moonballs.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah,