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Hour Two | NCAA Rule Changes & John Mateer Injury Update · Off The Bench

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  Speaker 1: Hour two of Off the Bench Live from downtown Baton
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  Speaker 1: Rouge starts.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome back in our number two of O
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  Speaker 4: Jake flann A Laundret All here with you here in
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  Speaker 4: this hour, we're gonna have doctor Stephen Aridge join us.
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  Speaker 4: There's some big, big injury news for not only an
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  Speaker 4: SEC star, but maybe the front runner and the Heisman
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  Speaker 4: Trophy conversation John Mattier that will break down with doctor
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  Speaker 4: Ethridge will break down the old miss quarterbacks here in
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  Speaker 4: this segment as well. But if you'll remember last week,
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  Speaker 4: there wasn't LSU player that got ejected for targeting.
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  Speaker 2: No, it was not a defender.
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  Speaker 4: It was an offensive lineman on a field goal that
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  Speaker 4: was about ten yards short and there was a return
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  Speaker 4: situation and Taytay him being out could be something to
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  Speaker 4: pay attention to in Saturday's game.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, we were talking about it during break.
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  Speaker 5: It's an underrated talking point because if you remember, in
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  Speaker 5: the Clemson game, Tyree Adams had to leave for a
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  Speaker 5: couple of games. DJ Chester was your left tackle. He
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  Speaker 5: has played right tackle. You know he could play both
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  Speaker 5: guard spots. You know he could play center. He's your
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  Speaker 5: sixth man. So now if somebody goes down, it's a
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  Speaker 5: true backup situation. Like you'll throw Kerrent in there, talented,
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  Speaker 5: hadn't played a ton. You'll throw Ory Williams in there,
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  Speaker 5: did and play in a ton. Braydon Augustus former walk on,
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  Speaker 5: played a little bit last week. That's really all he's
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  Speaker 5: he's done action wise, Kelly said on Monday, like he
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  Speaker 5: will be the center if something happens to Braylen Moore,
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  Speaker 5: who's already still kind of banged up in the first
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  Speaker 5: half of that game. Like that's an underrated point to me,
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  Speaker 5: because when you have a guy like Chester that you
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  Speaker 5: could just slide in there, it was a starter a
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  Speaker 5: year ago. You feel a lot better about that than
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  Speaker 5: having a guy that really hasn't played at all in
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  Speaker 5: the SEC. Now you're on the road, Like that's huge,
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  Speaker 5: we're not talking about it a ton.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: Chester actually is probably your swing offensive lineman. And I
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  Speaker 4: don't mean swing like swing guard, swing tackle, swing everything. Yep,
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  Speaker 4: he is going to come in a guard tackle or
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  Speaker 4: the center position. So look at he's not out for
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  Speaker 4: the game. He's out for the first half, which, by
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  Speaker 4: the way, like what targeting?
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  Speaker 2: What are we doing? Like did they ever explain that.
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  Speaker 5: Let's fix it, because because I was asking you, guys,
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  Speaker 5: the field goal should have been blown dead because they
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  Speaker 5: said it was a pre snap penalty, so he wanted.
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  Speaker 2: That never happened. So the play never happens.
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  Speaker 5: But the targeting, which in the first place, still stands stupid.
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  Speaker 2: Targeting is so broken. I was watching.
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  Speaker 4: Clemson and Syracuse and Clemson's edge rusher did a spin move,
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  Speaker 4: got free, launched into the Syracuse quarterback and kind of
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  Speaker 4: grazed the side of his helmet, but his head was
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  Speaker 4: down crown of the helmet. I'm like, look, I don't
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  Speaker 4: want that guy thrown out of that game, but they're
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  Speaker 4: going to call that for targeting. They flagged it, they
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  Speaker 4: reviewed it, no targeting. I was like, wait, wait, like
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  Speaker 4: so that's not targeting. And again I'm glad that the
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  Speaker 4: guy got to play the rest of the game, because
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  Speaker 4: I think it's dumb you get kicked out of the game.
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  Speaker 2: But he launched crown of the helmet.
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  Speaker 4: He just the quarterback was lucky enough to kind of
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  Speaker 4: turn his head and so it grazed the side of
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  Speaker 4: his helmet and not his face mask. But the last
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  Speaker 4: two that I've seen for LSU, those are considered targeting,
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  Speaker 4: get you kicked out of the game and launching at
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  Speaker 4: the quarter of Okay, got it cool because it's broken
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  Speaker 4: his hell so bad?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, the penalty is just it's so severe, and I
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  Speaker 6: get it if you want to preach safety, it's great,
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  Speaker 6: But like to have to to be able to go
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  Speaker 6: and suspend a kid for any amount of time, like
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  Speaker 6: there has to be a malicious attempt like that, there's
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  Speaker 6: no there's no argument that you can make against that
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  Speaker 6: if you want to like make a deep seated fear
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  Speaker 6: of these guys because you can't really find them whatever
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  Speaker 6: it is. Because like in the NFL, like you don't
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  Speaker 6: get suspended a lot, but you do have the fear
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  Speaker 6: of the pocketbook making your wallet a little bit lighter.
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  Speaker 6: And in college, I guess you don't have that. You know,
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  Speaker 6: who knows it might go to that. But to be
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  Speaker 6: able to suspend somebody for action for a play that
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  Speaker 6: you're given effort on, for a bang bang play without malicious,
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  Speaker 6: then Now, if you if you maliciously go in there
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  Speaker 6: and try to hurt somebody, you can tell that and
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  Speaker 6: but and that, But that needs to be reviewed by
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  Speaker 6: like the NCAA office or the conference office or whatever.
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  Speaker 6: It is almost at the league office, like it's the NFL.
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  Speaker 6: But I guess I'm assuming that the NCAA is competent
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  Speaker 6: enough to do that and do it right. But that
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  Speaker 6: should be a reviewed situation. That is not determined just
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  Speaker 6: because a guy with a quick trigger finger threw a
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  Speaker 6: flag on something and or they did a booth review
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  Speaker 6: and they're like, well, technically, he dipped his head right
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  Speaker 6: at the last second, not to mention that he was
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  Speaker 6: running full speed and have to jump over a guy
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  Speaker 6: to try to like scramble and bite and call him
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  Speaker 6: scratch to get to the ball carrier to make a tackle.
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  Speaker 6: He just ducked his head like instinctively reactively.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, this offensive lineman who doesn't tackle people got put
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  Speaker 4: in a situation where they were turning a field goal
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  Speaker 4: that was short and he was trying to get the
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  Speaker 4: guy on the ground.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, off, the receiver's going over the middle.
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  Speaker 6: And you're a safety and like you and there's a
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  Speaker 6: picture taking of you and you're horizontal to the ground
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  Speaker 6: with your head like that. Like we've seen those players.
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  Speaker 6: We get it, and that pretty much has been removed
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  Speaker 6: from the game. You see it every now and then,
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  Speaker 6: but the malicious plays have pretty much been removed from
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  Speaker 6: the game. But to penalize somebody for a high effort
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  Speaker 6: and just playing the football game or instinctively reacting to something,
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  Speaker 6: get out of here with that trash.
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  Speaker 4: If I okay, let meet those around the room, all right.
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  Speaker 4: If you were the commissioner of college football, I'm not
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  Speaker 4: talking about the NCAA SEC, the commissioner of college football.
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  Speaker 2: What's the first thing that you would do as far
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  Speaker 2: as the.
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  Speaker 4: Rule anything, no, anything, any anything you would do with
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  Speaker 4: college football.
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  Speaker 2: That's a big question. You should have a big answer.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, well, because it's fresh on the brain, I
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  Speaker 6: would fix the targeting right.
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  Speaker 2: Now, that's okay, that's okay to be the answer, because
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  Speaker 2: I would fig as well.
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  Speaker 4: I'd like to think about it for at least four
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  Speaker 4: to five days. That's not how radio works it.
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  Speaker 2: But I died a week words of prep, I know
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  Speaker 2: I would make.
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  Speaker 6: I would eliminate Notre Dame's football program to make them
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  Speaker 6: join make them joy conference or eliminate their program.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: I think the most egregious thing is the transfer portal,
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  Speaker 7: right now, like the amount of times that you can wait?
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  Speaker 8: Can can that be part of it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Anything you want your commission.
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  Speaker 7: Right, Okay, So I would fix the transfer portal because
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  Speaker 7: I know they're already starting to put some rules in
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  Speaker 7: the world. They put like one rule in place, they
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  Speaker 7: put the timeline or whatever. But I that would be
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  Speaker 7: my first thing, Like you cannot transfer, you cannot t J.
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  Speaker 8: Finley all this stuff.
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  Speaker 6: So you get nine, you get them like one free transfer,
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  Speaker 6: and then like, hey, think about it this way.
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  Speaker 2: TJ. Finley's transferred more than I have children. It's a lot.
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  Speaker 2: That's a lot. I mean, whoa, whoa more than transfers.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's too many.
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  Speaker 2: Not kids.
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  Speaker 8: But I think that's the one thing that I would
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  Speaker 8: fix that. And yeah, the targeting is pretty bad because
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  Speaker 8: you're You're.
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  Speaker 7: Totally right, like if it's something like with or DJ Chester,
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  Speaker 7: just because those examples are fresh on the mind, there
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  Speaker 7: was no they did not do that with the intent
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  Speaker 7: to hurt that.
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  Speaker 8: No, you're also with like I don't know what like.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of like fell like into them, like softly. It
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  Speaker 2: wasn't even you have to make contact. Yeah, you have
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  Speaker 2: to make contact, yeah, I.
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  Speaker 4: Guess, and look as a as an offensive player, like
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  Speaker 4: I used to lower my head all the time, and
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  Speaker 4: they still do that. I don't see them ever get
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  Speaker 4: called for it. So what's the safety portion you're talking
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  Speaker 4: about players with all time?
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  Speaker 2: And I don't blame them either. Hey, we know what
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  Speaker 2: we signed up for. We get it.
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  Speaker 8: It really feels it all again.
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  Speaker 4: Hell yeah, right, and I'm one concussion away from being
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  Speaker 4: you know, Billy Bob and not another teen movie.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, and I do it all again. You realize what
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  Speaker 2: you're signing up for.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're not trying to go out there, Like
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  Speaker 4: to y'all's point, if you're trying to hurt somebody, that's
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  Speaker 4: a different situation than trying to make a player protect.
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  Speaker 2: Yourself a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: And then to like have to sit the first half
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  Speaker 7: or what got ejected for the rest of the game,
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  Speaker 7: like it just it doesn't make any sense to me
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  Speaker 7: because it also feels like the refs and the NCAA
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  Speaker 7: officials they.
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  Speaker 8: Don't even know what the rule is.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's the will.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, they're like, oh, I think that was targeting.
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  Speaker 4: Sure, yeah, let me hear those conversations too with you
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  Speaker 4: and Birmingham. Let me hear those the uh was it?
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  Speaker 4: The the UFL does that right? Yeah, you get to
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  Speaker 4: let me let me hear it. Like the fact that
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  Speaker 4: we don't have transparency in that it still just blows
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  Speaker 4: my mind.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we were talking the Oklahoma Auburn game.
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  Speaker 5: The SEC refs after the game came out and they're like, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: we blew those two calls.
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  Speaker 2: Oh cool, Auburn still got a loss, and there you
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  Speaker 2: can do it. There's nothing you can do about it.
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  Speaker 4: So hey, thanks, Hey, humans make mistakes, guys, Yeah, and
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  Speaker 4: so do I. I made a mistake when I fumbled. You
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  Speaker 4: made mistake when you do an interception, Taylor. You made
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  Speaker 4: a mistake if you missed tackle in high school, right,
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  Speaker 4: Landri you made a mistake if you struck out.
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  Speaker 2: In softball, right Okay.
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  Speaker 4: We we had to answer to those mistakes, though, all
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  Speaker 4: of us had to answer to.
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  Speaker 2: Somebody talk about them somewhere. Okay.
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  Speaker 4: The fact that they still don't make them, like those
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  Speaker 4: officials that blew those calls in that Alburn Oklahoma game,
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  Speaker 4: should have to get in front of a microphone just
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  Speaker 4: like we are and say yes, question one in the
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  Speaker 4: front row, question six in the back row, because you
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  Speaker 4: cast somebody potentially a massive game.
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  Speaker 5: I know this is I'm gonna play this clip for
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  Speaker 5: you guys. It was Oklahoma Auburn, and when I saw
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  Speaker 5: this play, I'm like, how is this not targeting? Reps
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  Speaker 5: didn't question it, people on the broadcast didn't nothing. This
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  Speaker 5: is kind of textbook and nothing was done about I'm
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  Speaker 5: gonna try to pause that. I can only find it
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  Speaker 5: on a short so leaves his feet okay, like literally
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  Speaker 5: launches into the hits him in the back of the helmet,
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  Speaker 5: sax Jackson artomy.
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  Speaker 2: How is that not targeting? But what wit Weeks and
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  Speaker 2: what DJ Chester did or yeah, at least I'm assuming.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, does that like at least roughly the passer.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, they didn't call any thing. They got up and
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  Speaker 5: they played on. So like for me, the rule I'm changing.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not changing targeting. I'm eliminating the targeting penalty from
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  Speaker 5: college football, going just.
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  Speaker 6: Be like the NFL. Just it's a personal fould and
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  Speaker 6: if the league muse it, you can get suspended fifteen years.
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  Speaker 6: If you spin somebody's face before the game. You can
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  Speaker 6: get kicked out.
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  Speaker 2: Of the game.
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  Speaker 5: You're not getting kicked out of the game. There is
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  Speaker 5: no targeting penalty. Nobody to play if you get kicked
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  Speaker 5: out of the game.
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  Speaker 2: These guys are professional football players. Find them.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah right, they're getting they're gonna get Oh because of
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  Speaker 6: one old guy's opinion. Yeah, a kid that works this
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  Speaker 6: tailed off all week gets loses eligibility for two quarters
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  Speaker 6: of football.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, sometimes it can be like with it can be
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  Speaker 4: basically the whole game.
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  Speaker 2: If four quarters of football, yeah, yeah, face on an opinion.
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  Speaker 6: It shouldn't be based on an opinion of an old
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  Speaker 6: guy in a striped shirt on the field. Okay, it
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  Speaker 6: should be all right, Okay, you hit them, I'll give
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  Speaker 6: you a fifteen yard penalty. Maybe it was a bad call,
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  Speaker 6: but we can all live with it. Okay, as a
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  Speaker 6: bang bang play. We know refs make mistakes. It's fine,
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  Speaker 6: we get it. That's part of being a human. That's
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  Speaker 6: part of like why we love football. It's not running
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  Speaker 6: back computers. That's fine, But to take eligibility away if
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  Speaker 6: the league office wants to come back that week and say,
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  Speaker 6: you know what, it was targeting and it was malicious,
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  Speaker 6: so you got you gotta sit out the first quarter.
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  Speaker 4: Because I'm not having to make a decision in five minutes.
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  Speaker 4: There's pressure, there's a there's a clock clock, there's a
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  Speaker 4: TV clock, Like, hey, fans, we don't want to have
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  Speaker 4: to sit here and wait for more actions. So you
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  Speaker 4: got three minutes to make this decision. You're talking about
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  Speaker 4: like with weeks being out of that game, right if
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  Speaker 4: you know Florida DJ, like we didn't throw five intercessions,
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  Speaker 4: Like that's your best player on defense, that's an All
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  Speaker 4: American that you're missing for that because I got to
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  Speaker 4: make a decision in three minutes of like you saying
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  Speaker 4: like go back, maybe you got maybe, Hey, we're gonna
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  Speaker 4: suspend you for the next game because that was egregious yep,
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  Speaker 4: or wasn't yep?
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  Speaker 2: Or you know you gotta pay the league office twenty
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  Speaker 2: five thousand.
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  Speaker 5: Well, that part's dombin itself, because like got ejected three
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  Speaker 5: plays into the game, but has to miss the entire game,
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  Speaker 5: DJ Chester got ejected in the fourth quarter, he only
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  Speaker 5: has to miss the first half. So essentially Chester's missing
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  Speaker 5: half of the game and wits missing a whole game
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  Speaker 5: for the same penalty. Why can't Wit only set out
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  Speaker 5: the first half and play the second. But also, Matt,
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  Speaker 5: I'll eliminate sack yardage going away from your rushing.
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  Speaker 6: Total eliminated, eliminating all the too many transfers.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, we're eliminating notre Dame. Yep. Targeting, targeting Yeah, uh,
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  Speaker 2: super chet here from Dane.
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  Speaker 4: It is way past time to make officials employees of
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  Speaker 4: the league and every sport and hold them accountable like
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  Speaker 4: every other major employee.
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  Speaker 2: True.
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  Speaker 4: Uh, they should be held to the same standards as
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  Speaker 4: coaches and players. I totally agree. You're making dollar dollar
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  Speaker 4: bills doing what you're doing. And look it's great. Look
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  Speaker 4: you mess up. We mess up. Everybody messes up. Nobody's
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  Speaker 4: perfect out there. But just have to answer the question
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  Speaker 4: I would do. I would respect it so much if
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  Speaker 4: a referee is like, here's what I saw, Here's what
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  Speaker 4: I thought. Hmm okay, and that's how I interpreted, and
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  Speaker 4: I look, I messed up.
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  Speaker 2: I was wrong. Oh my god, that would.
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  Speaker 4: Go to be so great, Like how many NFL games
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  Speaker 4: did you lose because of a bad call?
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  Speaker 2: Hey, hey, tell me what you saw, Like why did
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  Speaker 2: you make that call?
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  Speaker 4: And you're a human being and you can give your
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  Speaker 4: explanation to like what I saw, why I missed it,
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  Speaker 4: and that would be so refreshing to me. Now it's
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  Speaker 4: never gonna happen. They're like, well, it's it's dangerous for
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  Speaker 4: the referee. What's the difference between putting them in danger
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  Speaker 4: and putting us in danger? Because if I fumble a
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  Speaker 4: game away, there's gonna be some pissed off Charger fans.
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  Speaker 2: Yep. If you threw an interception and some pissed off
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  Speaker 2: Packer fans.
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  Speaker 6: And there's certain penalties out there are certain plays that
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  Speaker 6: should be able to be reviewed and penalized after the fact,
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  Speaker 6: Like if the league office and that Auburn Oklahoma games
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  Speaker 6: should be able to call and say that was an
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  Speaker 6: illegal play.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, I'm not talking about pass interference. I'm not talking
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  Speaker 6: about holding, I'm not talking about targeting. I'm not talking
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  Speaker 6: about things like that. But like agree, just just blatant,
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  Speaker 6: like against the rules of the game.
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  Speaker 2: Of focal Auburn. You can't hide a player anymore, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: what a player for a touchdown?
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  Speaker 6: What if the referees and this has happened before, they
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  Speaker 6: don't count that there's twelve people on the field for
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  Speaker 6: the defense and the defense makes a big stop. The
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  Speaker 6: league office should be able to say, hey, no, no,
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  Speaker 6: there was twelve on the field, y'all missed it, which
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  Speaker 6: is fine, Okay, don't miss it again. Slap on the wrist, like, uh,
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  Speaker 6: there was twelve against eleven and can't stand like for
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  Speaker 6: that to happen. What if you're Auburn like they scored that,
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  Speaker 6: we should have won the game. First of all, there's
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  Speaker 6: a fumble touchdown, then there was an illegal play. Ncashauld
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  Speaker 6: have to pay Auburn like a million bucks right now.
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  Speaker 6: They should just hand him a million dollar. Give me something.
• 15:52
  Speaker 6: You can't give me the win? I get it because
• 15:54
  Speaker 6: you don't, can't take it away. Whatever, give me some money.
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: What crew was it? It was in the NBA a
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: couple of years to go the crew because like they decide,
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: got at the halfway point of the season, which crew
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: is gonna get to appreciate the NBA Finals. They took
• 16:08
  Speaker 5: it away from the crew because they had missed so
• 16:10
  Speaker 5: many calls and they're like, you don't get to do
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: the NBA Finals anymore. Like that dips into their paycheck,
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: like maybe.
• 16:14
  Speaker 6: Something they do that in the NFL too. The best
• 16:17
  Speaker 6: crew cruise get the Super Bowl and.
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: Lance red inside the by U four chat was sucks
• 16:22
  Speaker 4: them both went. In DJ's case, it was called. It
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: wasn't called on the field, the booth buzzed down for
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: a review. I didn't even think about that. Ye, Like
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: somebody saw that. I was like, oh my gosh, that's
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: not what we're going to. That is too tough.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: And he definitely breathes like this, yeah with his mouth,
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: not his nose. Yeah.
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: And he hadn't he hadn't played a lick of football,
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: couldn't pop a pimple on the football field. I believe
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: that was too roughouse Uh, real quick, because I know
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: we got doctor Adeward's probably waiting in the hallway there.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: We apologize.
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: The one thing that I would change if I was
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: the Commissioner of college football, everyone would have uniform scheduling.
• 17:02
  Speaker 4: Every league would play the same amount of conference games,
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: which the ACC is playing nine as well. The SEC's
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: moved to nine, but the Big Ten still doesn't have
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: the role where you've got to play a Power four
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: opponent outside of conference play like the SEC does.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: I would have it.
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: Hey, you got to play nine conference games and your
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: tenth game has to be against at least one power
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: for non con opponent, and the other two games you
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: can play directional school you if you want to. I
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: would actually get rid of the FCS games. Sorry, FCS,
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: I love you, I appreciate you. You have hall of
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: famers that have played at that level. But I'm talking
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: about give the G six those teams that opportunity to
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: play against the Power four team. So nine conference one,
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: Power four, two G six games. Everybody in the ACC,
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: the Big Ten, the Big twelve, and the SEC have
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: to follow.
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: The same rules. And that would be my change, my
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: first change. And I'd also take away UFC's claim to
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: the three national championship.
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: There's only one crystal ball and it's in Beton Rouge, Louisiana.
• 17:59
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• 18:01
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• 18:06
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• 18:08
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• 18:15
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• 18:17
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• 18:18
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• 18:19
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• 18:22
  Speaker 4: South Carolina coming to town, that's going to be a
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• 18:25
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• 18:28
  Speaker 4: come back, as we talked about, there is a major
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: major injury in the SEC at the quarterback position. We'll
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: tell you who that is and what it looks like
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: and how long he's going to be out with doctor
• 18:39
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  Speaker 1: Plugged in on LSU football twenty four to seven. You're
• 19:56
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• 20:08
  Speaker 5: My love.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: All right, all right, welcome back, yeah and OTB here
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: on this Wednesday morning.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: It is Wednesday morning.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: We're gonna call it eight fifteen and acts like we
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: were on time even though it's eight twenty four. Sorry,
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: Doctor Stephen Etherich joins us. Now, Doc, we were acting.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: If we were the commissioner of college football, what we
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: would change. Flenn's number one was he would make Notre
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: Dame either get kicked out or join a conference and
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: love college football like that.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: I went with scheduling.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: I want everybody to play nine conference games, one Power
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: four non con game and then Group of Six and
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: the other two.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: No more FCS games.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: Sorry, we love you, but that's what I wanted, Alandra said,
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: transfer portal titey, what was yours?
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: I mean targeting, but also our takeaway satyardage counting against
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: your Russian tilt.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: That's very dumb.
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: If doctor Steven Ethridge was the commissioner of college football,
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: the first thing that you're doing, yeah, I kind of you.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Play college football, you know, I mean say.
• 21:12
  Speaker 9: I like, I like everyone's uh, you know, it's funny though.
• 21:15
  Speaker 9: The one that we talked about this past or maybe
• 21:17
  Speaker 9: two weeknds ago is the targeting one. I feel like
• 21:19
  Speaker 9: you got to remove it or at least get the
• 21:20
  Speaker 9: suspension or throw them out of a game, you know,
• 21:22
  Speaker 9: maybe nade the penalty.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: I'm fine with that flagrant or two.
• 21:24
  Speaker 10: Yeah, basketball, that's I like that idea.
• 21:27
  Speaker 9: But uh but I also just I want to get
• 21:29
  Speaker 9: rid of the the little games as well. That for me,
• 21:32
  Speaker 9: it just that's probably my most passionate drives me crazy,
• 21:35
  Speaker 9: you know, and especially when we see injuries, and that's
• 21:36
  Speaker 9: you know, obviously personal to me. And I hate your games.
• 21:39
  Speaker 9: When you you're playing. I don't want to throw any
• 21:40
  Speaker 9: specific schools out.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: Say directional school US that's what we call when.
• 21:43
  Speaker 9: We're playing the directional schools, and and you get a
• 21:45
  Speaker 9: guy that gets hurt, and it's just it hurts that
• 21:47
  Speaker 9: much more when that that happens. So I guess that's
• 21:50
  Speaker 9: when I'm But the targeting one is is also near
• 21:52
  Speaker 9: and dear, because every time I watch those, I'm like, oh, yeah,
• 21:54
  Speaker 9: that's definitely targeting, not I mean, whatever I think it
• 21:57
  Speaker 9: is is.
• 21:57
  Speaker 10: I know it's gonna be opposite, no.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Doubt, per same way.
• 22:00
  Speaker 10: And I'm bat in zero.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: I am yes, absolutely, I would not be in the
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Hall of Fame either. I am not three for ten.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: I am zero for ten.
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: All right, there is a big injury in the SEC
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: the Heisman front runner John Mattier. It broke yesterday that
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: he is going to have thumb surgery. And I believe
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: the timetable that I saw and this was reacting as
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: soon as it happened, like three to five weeks, so doc,
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: and it's always throwing hand. By the way, how can
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: you have surgery on your throwing hand on your thumb
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: feels pretty important and only be out three to five weeks.
• 22:32
  Speaker 9: There's there's a lot of injuries, and again we don't
• 22:34
  Speaker 9: know exactly what this one is. They were they were
• 22:36
  Speaker 9: you're not really voked with what it is, which we'd
• 22:38
  Speaker 9: be the same. So I'm not saying anything negative there.
• 22:40
  Speaker 9: But you know, one one that I think that we
• 22:42
  Speaker 9: all know about if you go back to I believe
• 22:44
  Speaker 9: it was the either eighteen or nineteen year when Drew
• 22:46
  Speaker 9: Brees had his he had a ligament injury in his thumb.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: He had the US.
• 22:49
  Speaker 9: Yeah, so that's what's called a gamekeeper thumb or sometimes
• 22:53
  Speaker 9: called a skiers thumb. But there's a ligament on the
• 22:55
  Speaker 9: sort of on the inside of the thumb to keep
• 22:57
  Speaker 9: your thumb from pulling out right. And the funny thing was,
• 22:59
  Speaker 9: I remember watching that game and they had that aerial
• 23:01
  Speaker 9: shot and I saw them doing the exam and probably
• 23:02
  Speaker 9: something they didn't want us to see, but when they
• 23:04
  Speaker 9: did that exam, I saw his thumb kind of open up.
• 23:06
  Speaker 10: I'm like, oh, he's he's out, you know what, no doubt,
• 23:09
  Speaker 10: and he came back. I think it was five weeks.
• 23:11
  Speaker 9: You know, if there's more more modern techniques where you
• 23:13
  Speaker 9: can do an internal brace, so maybe he had the
• 23:14
  Speaker 9: same injury. You know another thing, you know, with a
• 23:18
  Speaker 9: broken bone in the hand, uh, if once you start
• 23:21
  Speaker 9: getting new bone growing on it, a lot of times
• 23:23
  Speaker 9: we'll go in there, we'll put a little plate, you know,
• 23:24
  Speaker 9: so you have the bone that's the base of the thumb.
• 23:27
  Speaker 9: The metacarpool is one that breaks a lot. Sometimes you're
• 23:29
  Speaker 9: gonna put a plate on it. And as soon as
• 23:30
  Speaker 9: we see new bone growing, which is usually around that
• 23:32
  Speaker 9: four to six week range, So so maybe.
• 23:35
  Speaker 10: They're doing something like that, you know. And and again it's.
• 23:37
  Speaker 9: It's obviously position specific. It's as a quarterback, you know.
• 23:40
  Speaker 9: I think I think that's the best case scenario is
• 23:42
  Speaker 9: three to five weeks. You know, he's got a grip
• 23:44
  Speaker 9: and throw, and if it was the other hand, to
• 23:45
  Speaker 9: your point, or if he was a lineman or a
• 23:47
  Speaker 9: defensive lineman, we could club him up and he can
• 23:48
  Speaker 9: play this week.
• 23:49
  Speaker 10: So there's there's a lot of relativity to that.
• 23:51
  Speaker 9: But if I had to guess, I'd say one of
• 23:53
  Speaker 9: those two, you know, something they could they could get
• 23:56
  Speaker 9: a little little plate on there and heel or maybe
• 23:58
  Speaker 9: they fixed that ligament and do an internal brace would
• 24:00
  Speaker 9: maybe gives a lectra support to it.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: But how how do you throw a ball? Matt Like,
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: I don't know how important the thumb is. I know
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: the index finger is important to a quarterback. But I
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: feel like the thumb, I'd say it's important, separates us
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: from the animals. Jake, for sure.
• 24:16
  Speaker 6: So I want to know about So when you're talking
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: about surgery on your hand, and so I know we've
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: talked about turf toe and surging on our feet, but
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: to me, the hand is like a completely different animal
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: because it control like it's everyday life, especially your thumbs.
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: Like there's so many bones, there's so many ligaments. A
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: lot can probably go wrong with that. Like you if
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: your foot heels up and it's still a little bit
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: stiff the rest of your life, okay, fine, but like
• 24:41
  Speaker 6: your hand, fine motor skills, your day to day just
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: every day living. I would assume that, like it's a
• 24:46
  Speaker 6: hand specialist that is dealing with that and it's something
• 24:49
  Speaker 6: that you probably got to be carefully. Do not rush
• 24:52
  Speaker 6: this back because you're talking about, like I'm being able
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: to use your thumb as well for the rest of
• 24:56
  Speaker 6: your life.
• 24:57
  Speaker 9: Yeah, hand is one of those areas that that, to
• 25:00
  Speaker 9: be honest, it should scare you a little bit if
• 25:03
  Speaker 9: you're not an expert.
• 25:04
  Speaker 10: You know, I see a hand injury.
• 25:06
  Speaker 9: There's certain injuries where I'm a little bit more aggressive,
• 25:10
  Speaker 9: you know, if I'm treating it a little bit more
• 25:12
  Speaker 9: comfortable doing it. Like even somebody comes into the emergency
• 25:14
  Speaker 9: room if they've got like an abscess, so you know,
• 25:16
  Speaker 9: a boil and infection in their hand, even something like that,
• 25:18
  Speaker 9: where maybe if it was on your leg, I would
• 25:20
  Speaker 9: just you know, lance it for you. But if it's
• 25:21
  Speaker 9: somewhere in the hand, a lot of times I'm gonna
• 25:23
  Speaker 9: call the hand surgeons because you got so much packed
• 25:25
  Speaker 9: into that small place. Like you said, you have the
• 25:27
  Speaker 9: fine motor skills and and one wrong move, you know
• 25:29
  Speaker 9: you can if you cut a nerve, you cut a
• 25:30
  Speaker 9: ligament attendant, something that's really vital. You know, man, that
• 25:33
  Speaker 9: could be catastrophic to It's not just your ability play football,
• 25:36
  Speaker 9: but to your point, you know, just writing, grasping, gripping,
• 25:38
  Speaker 9: doing your normal day to day stuff. So you know,
• 25:40
  Speaker 9: it's it's something where you really need somebody good. You know,
• 25:43
  Speaker 9: we're very fortunate here. You know, our partners that I
• 25:46
  Speaker 9: work with, We got a couple of guys with hands
• 25:47
  Speaker 9: that are just I mean, there's some bosses. I mean
• 25:48
  Speaker 9: they're fantastic guys, and but I'm sure you know, I
• 25:52
  Speaker 9: think I read with with tier. I think he's going
• 25:55
  Speaker 9: out to the guy in California. I think it was
• 25:56
  Speaker 9: the same guy that actually did Drew Breeze as surgery.
• 25:58
  Speaker 9: I'm not mistaken. So you know there's guys that you
• 26:02
  Speaker 9: want to see the right people if it's a hand
• 26:03
  Speaker 9: for sure. Yeah, how toime is that?
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: So if let's just say, like you go see a
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: specialist or whatever, like, what's the communication like between the
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: team doctor and that specialist.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Because a specialist, he saw it, he was there, he
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: was inside.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: Is the team doctor getting all the photos, all the
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: surgery notes and everything you're going over that with the specialists?
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 26:23
  Speaker 10: Yeah, in a perfect world, yes, I should say that.
• 26:26
  Speaker 9: What we've learned is there are certain people that are
• 26:29
  Speaker 9: better at that than others, not just the surgical side,
• 26:31
  Speaker 9: but and ideally for us, you know, if we're working
• 26:33
  Speaker 9: with the team, you know, we're fortunate that we have
• 26:36
  Speaker 9: really good people here.
• 26:37
  Speaker 10: We're able to do most of the surgeries here in house.
• 26:38
  Speaker 9: But you know, for a lot of reasons, you know
• 26:40
  Speaker 9: today's A and AIDS, there's some agent pressure. Sometimes sometimes
• 26:43
  Speaker 9: people just want to go back home maybe where they're from.
• 26:45
  Speaker 9: There's times where we see those scenarios we get some
• 26:48
  Speaker 9: of the guys when they go to the league that
• 26:50
  Speaker 9: want to come back here and have surge with our guys,
• 26:52
  Speaker 9: you know, so it's what you're comfortable with. So but
• 26:56
  Speaker 9: in a perfect world, yeah, we want to have great
• 26:57
  Speaker 9: communication with those guys and most of them do. Especial
• 27:00
  Speaker 9: the guys that are working with athletes on a regular basis,
• 27:02
  Speaker 9: they understand the importance because for one, you know, you
• 27:05
  Speaker 9: want your guy to do well, but they also care
• 27:06
  Speaker 9: about their reputation. And if if you get a hand
• 27:09
  Speaker 9: surgery and then you come back here, and if if
• 27:11
  Speaker 9: we don't know what's going on, and if maybe we're
• 27:12
  Speaker 9: not doing a good job with the rehab or we
• 27:14
  Speaker 9: don't know what you did and we're not communicating, well,
• 27:16
  Speaker 9: it doesn't just look bad on us, you know.
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: So.
• 27:18
  Speaker 9: So and obviously our first concern is if we want
• 27:20
  Speaker 9: the guys to do well. And I think that's most
• 27:22
  Speaker 9: of us. But these guys, especially these elite guys around
• 27:25
  Speaker 9: the country, they're they're most of them pretty good about communication.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: So I just this is like a hand anatomy question.
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: It's like I would think you would want that hand
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: specialist that's dealing with hands every single day because like
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: there's so much stuff happening in there, so many ligaments,
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: so many veins, so many all this attendance. It's like
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: it's like a nineties action movie. Like if you don't
• 27:46
  Speaker 6: have like a guy that's a specialist, it's like, all right,
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: which wire do I cut? Here?
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Is it? The red, the blue, the green, the yellow wire?
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: What is it?
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: Because like when I had elbow tenonitis, like I learned
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: a lot about the forearm, Like I learned that an
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: old nerve on mine might not go in the same
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: might not say, have the same anatomy as yours. It
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: might go under this muddle muscle and the other person
• 28:05
  Speaker 6: might go above it or to the side of it.
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: So I would assume that's the same. Like when you
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: open up somebody's hand, it's like, all right, this is
• 28:10
  Speaker 6: the nerve here. It's usually by this bone, but for
• 28:13
  Speaker 6: this guy, it's on a different bone. So like you're
• 28:15
  Speaker 6: looking at just.
• 28:16
  Speaker 9: Yeah, you want you want somebody, Like if you're cutting
• 28:19
  Speaker 9: on my hand, I want somebody who.
• 28:20
  Speaker 10: Has done it. That's all they're doing to your point.
• 28:23
  Speaker 9: And and you know, one thing I tell my pace
• 28:24
  Speaker 9: is a lot is look, you know, the human body
• 28:26
  Speaker 9: doesn't usually read the anatomy textbooks. So even though we
• 28:29
  Speaker 9: think we know what things should look like, and look,
• 28:31
  Speaker 9: we do we do this stuff, but I see weird
• 28:34
  Speaker 9: stuff every day. And that's one thing I tell my
• 28:35
  Speaker 9: pace all the time, is like, look, we know this
• 28:37
  Speaker 9: is what we're pretty sure of, but everybody's a little different.
• 28:39
  Speaker 9: Your anatomy probably is a little different.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 28:41
  Speaker 9: We we can probably go into that as deep as
• 28:42
  Speaker 9: you want, but as his brain, yeah that's true. But
• 28:46
  Speaker 9: the reality of it, yeah, we're all a little bit different,
• 28:48
  Speaker 9: and there's a lot of a lot of variations. So
• 28:50
  Speaker 9: having somebody that that not only does it all the time,
• 28:52
  Speaker 9: but who's probably seen those variations over and over and
• 28:54
  Speaker 9: over again, and somebody who really takes takes pride in
• 28:57
  Speaker 9: their craft, that's where you want to go. And Saiunfortunately,
• 29:01
  Speaker 9: you know, we've got a lot of good guys here,
• 29:02
  Speaker 9: like I love. I mean, I never worry about hand
• 29:05
  Speaker 9: injuries in my clinic because we got some studs. But
• 29:08
  Speaker 9: but it makes a difference, you know, it really makes
• 29:11
  Speaker 9: my job easier when I have those people out there.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: With t Bob's hands been big enough to operate on.
• 29:16
  Speaker 10: That would have been difficult. It would have been difficult.
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: Thought.
• 29:19
  Speaker 10: It's definitely a specialist for that.
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  Speaker 2: But the monocle was like flip down, just keep keep.
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  Speaker 4: One one that I wanted to ask you about. All right,
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  Speaker 4: So we see an ankle, okay, And when I was young,
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: I just thought an ankle was an ankle and if
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  Speaker 4: your sprained dr ankle, your sprained your ankle. Now it's
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: like we always get into the high mid low. What's
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  Speaker 4: the difference in return? Like, because how it feels like
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: obviously the worst. We hear that all the time. What's
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: the other two though? Like if you got you know,
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: I don't even know what like you would call it?
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: What is the term you would use for other ankle injury? Right,
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: So I toil We break them down.
• 29:59
  Speaker 9: Here have high, you have medial, you have lateral, so
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  Speaker 9: media on the inside later on the outside, and you'll
• 30:04
  Speaker 9: hear some slight different variations the way people break them down.
• 30:06
  Speaker 9: But that's typically the way that I like to look
• 30:07
  Speaker 9: at it. It's it still comes back to severity.
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  Speaker 2: First.
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  Speaker 9: You know, a very mild high ankle, even though we
• 30:14
  Speaker 9: don't like high ankles, probably gets back quicker than say
• 30:17
  Speaker 9: a severe lateral. So we've got to kind of understand
• 30:19
  Speaker 9: that there is that. But on the average, high ankles
• 30:22
  Speaker 9: are the long ones, and it is it is it
• 30:24
  Speaker 9: a grade one and grade two of grade three. I
• 30:26
  Speaker 9: think you know, we've talked about some of that grade ones.
• 30:28
  Speaker 9: You know, we can get those back sometimes in a
• 30:30
  Speaker 9: week if it's the lower end, you know, milder version
• 30:33
  Speaker 9: even of a high ankle. Now again that's best case scenario.
• 30:36
  Speaker 9: Really good job where reh having it. They do a
• 30:37
  Speaker 9: really good job of getting the inflammation out of it
• 30:40
  Speaker 9: throughout the week. We've had some of those come back,
• 30:43
  Speaker 9: you know, in recent examples, whereas they can.
• 30:45
  Speaker 10: They can be four weeks, six weeks, eight weeks.
• 30:48
  Speaker 9: Most of your your typical lateral angle, that's the most
• 30:51
  Speaker 9: common angle.
• 30:52
  Speaker 10: That's when you kind of roll it and spraying the outside.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: It swells up. When you're really swells up.
• 30:56
  Speaker 10: It's not a real bad one.
• 30:57
  Speaker 9: Those are guys you can use to get a good
• 30:58
  Speaker 9: brace on them. You can tape them up pretty good
• 31:00
  Speaker 9: and most of the times get those guys back the
• 31:02
  Speaker 9: next week. I mean, again, there's not a lot of
• 31:04
  Speaker 9: structural damage associated with it.
• 31:05
  Speaker 10: Beyond that.
• 31:06
  Speaker 9: The medial side is sort of the in between. Sometimes
• 31:09
  Speaker 9: those can be a bear. It just depends they're a
• 31:11
  Speaker 9: little bit more unpredictable, at least in my experience.
• 31:13
  Speaker 10: But so it can be all over the map.
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: Though, Doc Class one here, I know you're more focused
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: on the football side of things and not the baseball
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: side of things. But last night David Fry for the
• 31:24
  Speaker 6: Cleveland Guardians took a ninety nine mile per hour fastball
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: to the face cart it off the field hospital. So
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: when you're dealing with something like that trauma to the face,
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: I assume that of course you're going to see if
• 31:35
  Speaker 6: like everything's working properly with the significant of the damages.
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: But like it was a doctor, an orthopedic doctor, whatever
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: it is, they work like with hand in hand with
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: face doctors, plastic surgeons, Like how does that hold?
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Like what is the face trauma?
• 31:51
  Speaker 9: What's a fast so well, I think you hit the
• 31:54
  Speaker 9: nail on that. The first the first step we got
• 31:55
  Speaker 9: to make sure that there's not an immediate, you know,
• 31:59
  Speaker 9: serious and they have a globe injury to the eyes.
• 32:01
  Speaker 9: This something where we need to get emergency optalmology involved,
• 32:04
  Speaker 9: or we worried about vision, could they go blind? Things
• 32:07
  Speaker 9: like that, If it's something to the jaw and neck area.
• 32:09
  Speaker 10: Do we have to work out an airway?
• 32:11
  Speaker 9: Is this something where they might you know, if they're
• 32:12
  Speaker 9: having a lot of bleeding and going down the throat,
• 32:14
  Speaker 9: could they.
• 32:14
  Speaker 10: Just fixiate on that.
• 32:16
  Speaker 9: So obviously there are life threatening injuries that occur with
• 32:18
  Speaker 9: even something like a baseball to face, especially if it's
• 32:20
  Speaker 9: coming ninety something.
• 32:21
  Speaker 10: Miles an hour.
• 32:23
  Speaker 9: But assuming we get past that, then then yes, we're
• 32:26
  Speaker 9: looking at you know, we're working with our oral facial guys.
• 32:29
  Speaker 9: We're working with with with optalmologists if necessary. Sometimes, yeah,
• 32:34
  Speaker 9: we do get the plastics guys involved, especially for the
• 32:36
  Speaker 9: long term because you know, obviously we're our first concern
• 32:38
  Speaker 9: is functionality, healing, recovery. But but some of the plastic
• 32:41
  Speaker 9: guys do really good work. You know, we're lucky, you know,
• 32:44
  Speaker 9: in the sports medicine side, we have we have a
• 32:46
  Speaker 9: really good relationship with our community here. We've had a
• 32:49
  Speaker 9: few face injuries. We've got a couple of really good
• 32:51
  Speaker 9: surgeons over at the Lake that we've used that do
• 32:53
  Speaker 9: a fantastic job. And literally they know and when they
• 32:55
  Speaker 9: get a call from one of us, they're going to
• 32:56
  Speaker 9: answer it pretty quick, Yeah, pretty much right away. And
• 32:58
  Speaker 9: and so the nice thing is we're able to get
• 33:00
  Speaker 9: that information quickly, get to get the athletes fixed, if
• 33:02
  Speaker 9: that's what the case is. And and sometimes it's surgical
• 33:06
  Speaker 9: as well. Sometimes those things are are just as important,
• 33:09
  Speaker 9: you know, and it affect you long life term, long term.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: And y'all just like put yourself in that position. Yeah,
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: I mean our fastball to the good Lord.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Hope. Hopefully David Fry is okay.
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: Former Northwestern State demon uh so has tats here to Louisiana.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: Remember watching him play really really good college player. Made
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: the All Star team in twenty twenty four for the
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: Guardians as well. So hopefully he's okay. Doc, We appreciate it.
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: Looking forward to seeing you in Tupelo, Mississippi.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Let's go. You're over the weekend.
• 33:37
  Speaker 10: Fourhead docks for home, home, hometown of your guy.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: It is it is.
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: Uh did we take family vacations to tupelou Mississippi growing up?
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: Probably because went to Gray Slaying like thirty seven times.
• 33:49
  Speaker 10: Growing you gotta get we're all started too, that's right.
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  Speaker 2: No question about it, Doc. We appreciate it.
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  Speaker 1: Com from the locker room to the airwaves, gets off
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: the bench with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.
• 35:33
  Speaker 11: Baby baby, baby, baby baby, as I would never.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what burnt CD used to hate to
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: see me coming. This was on m P three's.
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: Remember when you figured out that you could make it
• 36:25
  Speaker 6: an MP three file. You could go from burning ten
• 36:28
  Speaker 6: to twelve songs per CD depending on the link, So
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: you burn in about one hundred YEP to one twenty
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: MP three's.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: Oh that was a big day. A little stack.
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: Go to best Buy, I get that circle stack of
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: like one hundred CDs.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Flank.
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: Then that one person in your in your grade that
• 36:52
  Speaker 6: had the proper file in their computer and the proper
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: stickers they would print out designed labels for the top
• 37:00
  Speaker 6: CD customize.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: It at Treeport evangel It was big to have.
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: Like I think the girls would have different color sharpies
• 37:07
  Speaker 4: and they would like, you know, drawl they come up
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: with like.
• 37:09
  Speaker 7: Some good art I mean, and like label it like
• 37:12
  Speaker 7: you would come up with like a name for this.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: Yes, And is.
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: There anybody on earth better at drawing block letters or
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: bubble letters than thirteen to sixteen year old girl.
• 37:25
  Speaker 8: No, God, I remember blot They.
• 37:30
  Speaker 6: Would write these letters to each other and they would
• 37:32
  Speaker 6: spend what seemed like two and a half days.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: I'm just writing the person's name. Yeah. Bubble letters were
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: big when I was in like middle school. I mean
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: the art, the artistry.
• 37:43
  Speaker 8: Sometimes when I doodle, I still do the bubble letters.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 37:46
  Speaker 7: Like if I'm in a meeting and I have like
• 37:47
  Speaker 7: a notebook and I'm bored and listening or whatever, like
• 37:50
  Speaker 7: I start bubble lettering my name.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: I yeah, if I if I got a notebook in
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: front of me, and you'll, like, by the end of it,
• 37:57
  Speaker 4: you'll see it on like my live sheet.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: I'm just doodling my out.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: My go tos are always I draw the Adidas logo
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: and the Nike check.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why.
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: Like to this day, I'll throw one of those s's
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: from Mary.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: I'll throw one of those. I'll draw one of those.
• 38:16
  Speaker 6: Hey, hey, son, do you want to see how I
• 38:18
  Speaker 6: can turn six lines into a work of art?
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: Watch this. I used to put that as the S
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: in my last name. I'm like teach hated it. Wow,
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: It's like it's not even an you can't put that
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: as your name.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: An she's wrong, she's wrong.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, your teacher, guys, what do you want? I just
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: still don't get it.
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: How are teenage girls so good at doing block letters?
• 38:49
  Speaker 6: It's a talent because I used to try to do
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: it too, but I would do it like ten and
• 38:52
  Speaker 6: it just.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: Doesn't make it. Three D show.
• 38:57
  Speaker 7: Shadow shadow it yeah mm hmm.
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: The shadows was a little bit above my pay grade.
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: Oh no, but I could three D the absolute hell
• 39:07
  Speaker 6: out of a block letter.
• 39:08
  Speaker 8: Say that?
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: Or I can try three D to f the capital
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: F wow that yes?
• 39:15
  Speaker 8: Or like the O is my favorite? You know it was.
• 39:18
  Speaker 8: I could make the heck out of a cube like
• 39:22
  Speaker 8: I could.
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, do you go when it gets behind the initial
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: the first the front side?
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Do you go dotted line? No? Okay, I like that though.
• 39:31
  Speaker 8: Respect No, I just go straight, just straight line.
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: This feels like something only the Hesters did. Because me
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: and my older brother like obsessed with sports. We used
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: like doodling. We should draw basketball uniforms like we would
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: draw like the tanks with the shorts, like the whole
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: combo North Carolina, the argyle down the side and that.
• 39:50
  Speaker 6: Was somebody just made me left so in the chat,
• 39:54
  Speaker 6: don't forget about the doodle tornadoes?
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Y'all ever do tornadoes? No?
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like you just drop a bunch of circles,
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: you get a deep then you get real.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah. Used to pop during science class?
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Oh hey, why did OTB have one brain cell?
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: We were drawing the didas logos in class, and tornadoes.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: We're talking about the things. Shadow letters there to talk
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: about shut three d in the hell out of it.
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: Nobody letter right.
• 40:27
  Speaker 7: Nobody was talking about the stone skimming until we brought
• 40:29
  Speaker 7: it up on this show, and then you see it
• 40:31
  Speaker 7: on Pat McAfee The.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Next Daybay Aj Hawky.
• 40:35
  Speaker 8: Friday, Pat McAfee show is going to be talking about doodling.
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: Doodle tornadoes will be talked about because AJ has got
• 40:42
  Speaker 4: some kind of listening device. You're in the studio. Yeah,
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: and now I'm going to lose Flynn for the rest
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: of the show because this man is dude.
• 40:52
  Speaker 8: Doodling right now.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Over there they Oh yeah, I got it. The white
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: bounce in here is real bad. It's so bad, very bad.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Well done. That's actually really good. So I just did that.
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: Get so many seconds that I got to connect the
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: side here, got somebody seconds that took me, yeah, about four,
• 41:11
  Speaker 6: well done.
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  Speaker 2: Nice.
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: Well just think of this picture Taylor in middle school
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: high school. No, it's his s doing his final exam,
• 41:20
  Speaker 6: Taylor sharp with this.
• 41:21
  Speaker 8: As the S the final exam on his SA T.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I scored, so that belonged to yes. All right,
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  Speaker 1: From the locker room to the airwaves. Gets off the
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  Speaker 3: At first we started a record taking me put this,
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  Speaker 4: We'll push would you rather Wednesday to the nine o'clock
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  Speaker 4: hour because I do actually want to ask Flann about
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: the John Mattiere injury. He was the leader in the
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: clubhouse for the Heisman Trophy, and he had played really well,
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: had a couple of big victories against Michigan, against Auburn,
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: and he is now going to be out three to
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: five weeks having surgery on his thumb. So not just
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: resting it and going through rehab, having surgery and having
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: to come back. I've never thrown a football in a game.
• 44:09
  Speaker 4: Jim Bo was sleeping on my skills. I don't know
• 44:12
  Speaker 4: what that's like. I can't imagine wearing any kind of
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: a brace on your thumb is fun. How much does
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: that change the out look for Oklahoma?
• 44:20
  Speaker 6: It's I don't think you can overstate the impact that
• 44:24
  Speaker 6: it's going to have on I don't think they're a
• 44:26
  Speaker 6: complete enough team to lose one of the more dynamic
• 44:32
  Speaker 6: quarterbacks in the country and still be in this race. Now,
• 44:38
  Speaker 6: are they still good? They got a good defense, they
• 44:40
  Speaker 6: do they're offense, they're just not the I mean, they're
• 44:43
  Speaker 6: just not dynamic. I don't think from top to bottom
• 44:45
  Speaker 6: on their offense, they have the skill set, the overall depth,
• 44:49
  Speaker 6: and John Entier did a lot, but he didn't have
• 44:52
  Speaker 6: his best game this past week, and they didn't do
• 44:55
  Speaker 6: much on offense. Right, they had to rely on a
• 44:58
  Speaker 6: illegal play to get some of their points. So look,
• 45:02
  Speaker 6: they throw back up in there unless he's.
• 45:04
  Speaker 4: He's got some experience. He's had to play here and there.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: He replaced Jackson Norna for a little bit a year ago,
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: so it's not a completely new guy. But look, John
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: Metier was leading the Heisman Trophy conversation.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's not that.
• 45:16
  Speaker 6: So I would say, playing pretty decent up to that point,
• 45:19
  Speaker 6: and he didn't play good. I didn't play great this
• 45:21
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  Speaker 2: Maybe it was right. Maybe it's a hand situation. You
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  Speaker 4: You have bye week Kent State, so it's good for
• 45:29
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  Speaker 4: that stretch. So not an easy stretch at the back
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• 45:41
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• 45:45
  Speaker 2: So some big news coming out of Norman yesterday. John
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Matier gonna be out three to
• 45:48
  Speaker 6: Daniel makes a good point, John Matier not participating any
• 45:51
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