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Full Show Podcast: 20 November 2024 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the inside Ryan Bridge new
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  Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four on the early edition with Smith City,
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  Speaker 1: New Zealand's furniture Beds and a play at store us Dogs.
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  Speaker 2: It'd be good morning, six after five. You've reached the
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  Speaker 2: middle of the week. Our lead interview before sixth this morning,
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  Speaker 2: Sir Lockwood Smith on harsher punishments for some bad MPs.
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  Speaker 2: What's posing going to do next now that Zelensky is
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  Speaker 2: firing long range? Hard enough calls for concrete not ash
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  Speaker 2: felt on our motorways and Gavin Gray's in the UK.
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  Speaker 3: The agenda.
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  Speaker 2: It is Wednesday, the twentieth of November. Biden gave permission
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  Speaker 2: and Zelensky's pulled the trigger for the first time. Ukraine's
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  Speaker 2: fired six American long range missiles into Russia. It comes
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  Speaker 2: on the one thousandth day of the war. Zelensky spoke
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  Speaker 2: to the European Parliament.
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  Speaker 4: You know very well that it does not telling people
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  Speaker 4: or rules all lid, money and pop. These are the
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  Speaker 4: sinks we must take away from them back home.
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  Speaker 2: A few stubborn smokers just won't quit. We're not quite
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  Speaker 2: on track to meet our smoke for a twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: five goal. Results from the annual New Zealand Health Survey
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  Speaker 2: show daily smoking rates are at six point nine percent.
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  Speaker 2: They were six point eight percent and the last survey
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  Speaker 2: the smoke free goal is five percent. Isn't that bizarre?
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  Speaker 2: Such an arbitrary line in the sand. Only when we
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  Speaker 2: get down one point nine percent further will we have succeeded.
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  Speaker 2: Why anyway, Youth hazardous drinking rates have dropped thirteen percent
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  Speaker 2: over the past five years. That's why the kids are
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  Speaker 2: all mental. No one's chilling out our two Hong Kong.
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  Speaker 2: A political stunt can get you ten years locked up.
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  Speaker 2: Forty five pro democracy activists have been sentenced, some for
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  Speaker 2: up to ten years, for holding an unofficial vote to
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  Speaker 2: choose candidates for the legislative election in twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 5: The trial of forty seven and is clearly intended by
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  Speaker 5: the authorities to put a market down that if you're
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  Speaker 5: trying to do anything, lay that and you will feed
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  Speaker 5: very severe consequences.
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  Speaker 2: Joe Biden's been playing hide and seek at the G
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  Speaker 2: twenty and rio. The other world leaders were seen striking
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  Speaker 2: a pose before they realized US President Joe Biden was lost.
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  Speaker 2: For Biden game after a bit of a flurry. Biden
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  Speaker 2: was found behind a palm tree. You've got to know.
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  Speaker 2: You've got George and Maloney, You've got moder You've got
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  Speaker 2: Mahon all standing there ready to pose, and Wisdoe behind
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  Speaker 2: a palm tree.
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  Speaker 6: Get ahead of the headlines, Ryan Bridge you for twenty
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  Speaker 6: twenty four on early edition with Smith City, New Zealand's
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  Speaker 6: furniture Bids and a playing store news talk zid Be.
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  Speaker 2: Apparently he wanted to avoid being photographed next to lav
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  Speaker 2: of the Russian Foreign Minister, and so but I mean,
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  Speaker 2: what a way to do it. I know what I'll
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  Speaker 2: do to avoid that photo op. It's Hyde, dude, You're
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  Speaker 2: the leader of the free world. Someone is going to
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  Speaker 2: notice you're missing from a meeting a photo of the
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  Speaker 2: G twenty and he's only nineteen. Anyway, he eventually got
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  Speaker 2: to his place and they had the photo on Russia.
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  Speaker 2: Why is he the missing man? Why is he only
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  Speaker 2: now allowing the Americans? So the American made long range
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  Speaker 2: missiles to hit inside Russia. A lot of theories on this.
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  Speaker 2: Is it a play before Trump gets into the reigns
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  Speaker 2: of the White House. We spoke about that yesterday. Leon Panette.
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  Speaker 2: He's a former US Secretary of Defense worked under Clinton.
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  Speaker 2: He says, this is actually about North Korea.
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  Speaker 7: I'm glad that he made the decision to do it.
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  Speaker 7: Ukraine needs to have that ability because it's likely that
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  Speaker 7: those North Korean soldiers will be used to try to
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  Speaker 7: reach take Kursk.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so there's eleven thousand North Korean soldiers, remember we've
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  Speaker 2: been covering this for a while, that have gone into Russia,
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  Speaker 2: are working alongside the Russian troops against the Ukrainians. And
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  Speaker 2: so the theory is that this is a signal to
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  Speaker 2: not just North Korea, but more importantly to China, stay
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  Speaker 2: the hell out of this war, because I will authorize
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  Speaker 2: the use of long range weapons like this. They can
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  Speaker 2: travel up to three hundred kilometers. They pack one point
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  Speaker 2: seven kilograms worth of payload in the top of the warhead.
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  Speaker 2: And Lavrov made the point at the G twenty that
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  Speaker 2: you don't just the Ukrainians, don't just fire these. You
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  Speaker 2: need US satellites, you need specialist data, You essentially need
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  Speaker 2: US forces operating and firing these, which is a huge escalation.
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  Speaker 2: So what have you seen in response, Well, you've seen
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  Speaker 2: Lavrov at the G twenty saying this is an escalation
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  Speaker 2: by the West, So we'll have some audio of that
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  Speaker 2: for you in a few minutes time plus. We're going
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  Speaker 2: to speak to Dimitry Goreenberg. He's a specialist in what
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  Speaker 2: was a specialist in the USSR military and also how
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  Speaker 2: Putin might respond. We'll speak to him next. It's eleven after.
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  Speaker 3: Five, Bryan Bridge.
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  Speaker 2: Look out, if you're in a gang, if you're listening
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  Speaker 2: with your patch on this morning, you've got well, you've
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  Speaker 2: got the rest of the day. You've got until midnight.
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  Speaker 2: Paul Goldsmith is coming for you, as is Mark Mitchell.
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  Speaker 2: Are you scared, Well, you should be scared of these
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  Speaker 2: regional gang units that have been stood up to try
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  Speaker 2: and get rid of the patches. So from the stroke
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  Speaker 2: of midnight, your gang patch will be illegal to be
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  Speaker 2: worn in public. That includes gang insignia. I've heard that
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  Speaker 2: what they're doing now some of the gang members is
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  Speaker 2: wearing hoodies that say Charlie's Chocolate Factory or Charlie's Chip
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  Speaker 2: Factory or whatever, and they know, you know, if you
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  Speaker 2: know you know, they know what gang they Anyway, I
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  Speaker 2: suppose it's not exactly intimidating. If you see a man
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  Speaker 2: wearing a Charlie's Chocolate Factory T shirt. Is it not
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  Speaker 2: as bad as among the mob one? Anyway, there you go.
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  Speaker 2: You've got until midnight. Enjoy your patch today people twelve
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  Speaker 2: after five.
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  Speaker 3: News and views you trust to start your day.
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  Speaker 6: It's early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City, New
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  Speaker 6: Zealand's furniture beds and a plying store.
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  Speaker 2: News Talk said the fourteen after five nine two nine
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  Speaker 2: two is the number text. Good news for Napier. Their
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  Speaker 2: port had a good result yesterday. Profit up fifty percent.
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  Speaker 2: This is cyclone Gabrielle recovery obviously helping with volumes. Their
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  Speaker 2: volume growth up and a net profit after tax twenty
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  Speaker 2: four point eight million dollars for the twelve months to September.
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  Speaker 2: That's up forty nine point seven percent compared on the
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  Speaker 2: year prior. Bulk cargo volume grew nine percent. There was
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  Speaker 2: a thirteen and a half percent increase in log volumes
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  Speaker 2: that was supported apparently by wind thrown and redirected logs.
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  Speaker 2: And more good news on the way as well, because
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  Speaker 2: you've got your cru season coming, so the port's expecting
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  Speaker 2: eighty five cruise ship bookings for the twenty twenty five seasons.
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  Speaker 2: So for a region that needs a bit of good news.
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  Speaker 2: There's some for you this morning, quarter past.
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  Speaker 3: Five, Bryan Bridge.
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  Speaker 2: So the Ukrainians have taken advantage of American weapons and
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  Speaker 2: fired long range missiles inside Russia. Sergei Lavrov, who's the
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  Speaker 2: Russian Foreign miniSTR at the DG twenty a few moments ago,
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  Speaker 2: said we will take this as a new phase in
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  Speaker 2: the war from the west and we will respond. Dmitri
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  Speaker 2: Goenberg is a Russian security expert. He's got expertise on
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  Speaker 2: the former Soviet Union in Russian military. He was with Harvard,
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  Speaker 2: now with CNA. He joins us this morning, Welcome to
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  Speaker 2: the show, Thanks for having me, Thank you for being here.
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  Speaker 2: How do you think Russia will respond to something like.
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  Speaker 8: This, Well, I don't think there's going to be a
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  Speaker 8: very strong response, and for a couple of reasons. One,
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  Speaker 8: they've been expecting this for a while, so it's kind
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  Speaker 8: of already kind of baked in. They did respond initially
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  Speaker 8: to the reports with a large barrage of of missiles
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  Speaker 8: aimed at Ukraine. And then the second part is they're
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  Speaker 8: waiting for the Trump administration. They see that Biden administration
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  Speaker 8: is at this point is on its way out. And
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  Speaker 8: they think that they can maybe get some more you know,
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  Speaker 8: changes in policy out of out of Trump. So I
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  Speaker 8: don't think they're gonna want to escalate too much in
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  Speaker 8: next you know, in the next couple of months.
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  Speaker 2: What's your theory on why Biden did it now? Is
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  Speaker 2: it the North Koreans or is it because Trump's coming
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  Speaker 2: or both?
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  Speaker 3: I think both.
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  Speaker 8: They they want to get as much in place before
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  Speaker 8: Trump comes in on the theory that you know, while
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  Speaker 8: Trump wouldn't potentially wouldn't approve this, he's also potentially not
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  Speaker 8: going to reverse the decision if it's already been made, uh,
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  Speaker 8: And they want to you know, set up the Ukrainians
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  Speaker 8: for to have as much uh uh you know, leeway
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  Speaker 8: and success as possible.
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  Speaker 2: In terms of potent lwering the threshold for the use
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  Speaker 2: of nuclear weapons and signing that symbolically overnight got anything
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  Speaker 2: to do with this or is that I mean, obviously
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  Speaker 2: it's been well signaled, but should we read much into that.
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  Speaker 8: I think that I wouldn't be surprised if they were
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  Speaker 8: holding in their back pocket and waiting for some thing
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  Speaker 8: like this, uh to uh to pull it out and say, Okay,
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  Speaker 8: here's here's what we're doing. Uh, the overall change in
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  Speaker 8: in nuclear doctrine does have kind of writ larges related
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  Speaker 8: to UH, Western supplies of weapons and long range missiles
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  Speaker 8: and things like that. So because one of the things
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  Speaker 8: they're afraid of is you know, long range conventional strikes
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  Speaker 8: from the US. So that's part of the change in
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  Speaker 8: the doctrine. But it doesn't have anything speci pecifically to
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  Speaker 8: do with this decision. It's just kind of the larger
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  Speaker 8: confrontation in Russia in the West.
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  Speaker 2: How does this end? In your mind? There's been talk
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  Speaker 2: of a DMZ being set up potentially between Russia and Ukraine.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Ukraine agreeing not to join NATO for twenty years,
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  Speaker 2: US weapons at the border manned by NATO soldiers, etc.
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  Speaker 2: Does Putin do a deal like that?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I don't you know.
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  Speaker 8: All this talk of negotiation right now is predicated on
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  Speaker 8: Russia actually.
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  Speaker 3: Being interested in negotiations.
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  Speaker 8: I don't see much evidence of that, to be honest,
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  Speaker 8: because right now they see themselves as having great deal
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  Speaker 8: of success on the battlefield, so they'll be happy to
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  Speaker 8: participate in negotiations that result in what is essentially Ukrainian capitulation.
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  Speaker 8: But the Western sides, and even you know, whatever we
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  Speaker 8: may happen with the Trump administration of the Europeans and
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  Speaker 8: the Ukrainians themselves are not willing to go for that.
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  Speaker 3: So I think I wouldn't expect a quick end.
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  Speaker 2: What on earth is his end game.
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  Speaker 3: For Russia?
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  Speaker 8: Uh? The well, they want to I mean they've they've
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  Speaker 8: stated it quite clearly. They want to have a sphere
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  Speaker 8: of influence over the former Soviet territory, and you know
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  Speaker 8: Ukraine is the most important part of that for them.
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  Speaker 8: So I think that plus showing that the West or
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  Speaker 8: NATO and you know NATO alliance is weak and can't
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  Speaker 8: stop this, that's that's the goal.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks so much for your time. Dmitri Gourenberg, Russian security
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  Speaker 2: expert formerly of Harvard, Now is CNA. It is just
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  Speaker 2: gone nineteen and a up to five news talk CB.
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  Speaker 6: Ryan Bridge new for twenty twenty four on early edition
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  Speaker 6: with Smith City, New Zealand's Furniture Bits and a playing
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  Speaker 6: store news talk.
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  Speaker 2: Zibby, Good morning if you're just joining us twenty two
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  Speaker 2: after five. I've just been handed the latest global dairy
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  Speaker 2: train auctions, so overall up one point nine percent, which
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  Speaker 2: is good, butter up half a percent, a cheddar down
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  Speaker 2: three point one percent. And where do we always look
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  Speaker 2: as our milk powders, because that's our biggest skim milk
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  Speaker 2: powders up point nine percent, and whole milk powder's up
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  Speaker 2: point three two percent, which is good, always good to
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  Speaker 2: be positive. Mozzarella down six point six two after five
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  Speaker 2: Now rich truck, he's won our roads to harden up,
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  Speaker 2: calling for concrete on busy sections of State Highway over Asheville,
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  Speaker 2: Asheville and You. Report launched by Transport Minister Simeon Brown,
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  Speaker 2: shows concrete roads are well suited for high intensity traffic
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  Speaker 2: and are more cost effective in the long run, though
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  Speaker 2: they do cost more upfront. Maintenance costs can be up
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  Speaker 2: to sixty two percent less. James Smith is with the
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  Speaker 2: National Road Carriers Union. He's with US Live this morning. James,
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  Speaker 2: Good morning to you.
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  Speaker 9: Good morning, Ryan.
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  Speaker 2: Good to have you on the show. Obviously, you guys
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  Speaker 2: would like a bit more concrete.
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  Speaker 10: We want better roads, Ryan, That's that's always a good thing.
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  Speaker 2: Where exactly would concrete help?
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  Speaker 10: I think concrete helps where you've got high volumes of traffic,
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  Speaker 10: especially traffic that's that's got some some weight to it
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  Speaker 10: and because concrete gives us a far more resilient road,
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  Speaker 10: it gives us a much lower cost over the life
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  Speaker 10: total life of the road. And that's that's I think
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  Speaker 10: the significant change in direction we're seeing from this government.
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  Speaker 10: They're starting to look at what is the long term
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  Speaker 10: cost implications of a decision rather than the previously held
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  Speaker 10: view of the what can we do for the lowest cost?
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  Speaker 2: Now paper over and then literally fill in the cracks
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  Speaker 2: every five minutes? Can you go faster or correct? Can
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  Speaker 2: can big vehicles go faster on concrete too?
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  Speaker 6: No?
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  Speaker 10: Not no, We're not not so worried about that. But
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  Speaker 10: what it does do is it potentially you know, it
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  Speaker 10: removes that continual need to fix potholes, so you know
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  Speaker 10: you've got and again it's not going to work everywhere
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  Speaker 10: because you know New Zealand's got challenging topography. But where
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  Speaker 10: it will work, I think it should be seriously looked at.
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  Speaker 2: And it sounds like Simon Brown is going to be
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  Speaker 2: doing that. Is at a conference today, Hey, what about
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  Speaker 2: the Desert road closing for two months? I suppose it's
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  Speaker 2: got to be done.
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  Speaker 10: Absolutely, and it's been well signaled, like we've known about
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  Speaker 10: this since gosh would have been August, and it's part
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  Speaker 10: of that renewals program that started off at t RAL
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  Speaker 10: making it way all the way through to WAYUU. So
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  Speaker 10: well signaled. There's plenty, you know, there's alternatives to do,
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  Speaker 10: and it's going to end up with a much better
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  Speaker 10: finish than the need.
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  Speaker 2: Brilliant James, Thanks very much for being on the program.
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  Speaker 2: Appreciate your time. James Smith with the National Road Carriers Union,
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  Speaker 2: just gone twenty five minutes after five News Talks there
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  Speaker 2: b Lockwood Smith, former speaker on the show. Just before
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  Speaker 2: six this morning.
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  Speaker 6: See Fily edition full the show podcast on iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 3: How it by News Talks, AB, You're on.
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  Speaker 2: News Talks hereb. Democracy is a delicate and fragile thing,
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  Speaker 2: and yesterday's protest was a good example of it. Working
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  Speaker 2: people opposed something, they protest peacefully, respectfully, they present a petition,
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  Speaker 2: they go home. The bill by the way that they
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  Speaker 2: don't like, well, it's not becoming law. You don't have
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  Speaker 2: to look far this morning for examples of things going
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  Speaker 2: tits up in a big way, and quickly we've basically farewell.
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  Speaker 2: Freedom in Hong Kong forty seven activist sentence to long term, prisons, sentences, overnights,
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  Speaker 2: kids in the West Bank being killed. You've got a
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  Speaker 2: tyrant in Putin lowering the bar for the use of
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  Speaker 2: nuclear weapons. Plus you've got US made long range missiles
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  Speaker 2: into Russia. But here we have a functioning democracy. Now
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  Speaker 2: the hikoi is over, at Hwiti y Tetti wants to
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  Speaker 2: go further. He wants a separate Mardi parliament. He wants
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  Speaker 2: two systems, he references on his website, the Irish, Welsh
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  Speaker 2: and Scottish systems, the latter of which controls its own justice, education,
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  Speaker 2: tax systems. How would that work here? Who would fund
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  Speaker 2: such a parliament? Who would fall under the Maldi parliament?
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  Speaker 2: Given seventy five percent of Mardi didn't vote for at
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  Speaker 2: Hwiti's lot at the last election. How would you build
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  Speaker 2: a nation within a nation separated not by borders but ethnicity.
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  Speaker 2: Sarah's question. You see, democracy works when we're all in it,
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  Speaker 2: and we're all in it equally. It's true that not
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  Speaker 2: every group will get the same outcomes from that system,
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  Speaker 2: but that's no reason to throw the system away entirely.
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  Speaker 2: What it is sure is a call to better use
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  Speaker 2: that system to affect change through strong and pragmatic leadership,
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  Speaker 2: the likes of which Tapati Marti has been known for
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  Speaker 2: in the past. Whether you'll get that leadership from Debbi
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  Speaker 2: and Waitetti, Well, we have to wait and see.
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  Speaker 3: Ryan Bridge look with Smith.
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  Speaker 2: Smith is on the show just before six this morning,
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  Speaker 2: talking about Parliament's rules and bad behavior, whether anything there
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  Speaker 2: should change.
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  Speaker 6: The news you need this morning and the in depth
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  Speaker 6: analysis Early edition with Ryan Bridge and Smith City New
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  Speaker 6: Zealand's furniture, beds and a playing store news talks.
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  Speaker 9: It'd be.
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  Speaker 2: Good Morning New Zealand. It is twenty four minutes away
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  Speaker 2: from six. Welcome to early edition. I'm Ryan Bridge. Great
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  Speaker 2: to have your company this Wednesday morning. Gavin Gray's out
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  Speaker 2: of the UK shortly. Who cut that undersea cable in
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  Speaker 2: the Baltic Sea? The Germans reckon They've got an idea.
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  Speaker 2: He'll talk about that. Plus we're going to speak to
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  Speaker 2: Speaker Sir Lockwood Smith on potentially increasing the punishment for
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  Speaker 2: bad behaving MPs. I don't necessarily think that's going to
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  Speaker 2: change anything or worth doing. Does anyone know MSNBC's Morning
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  Speaker 2: Joe Show in the United States, This married couple. They
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  Speaker 2: are quite annoying to watch. Joe Scarborough and Mikey Micah
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  Speaker 2: Bazenski are their names, and they sit there together and
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  Speaker 2: hate on Trump. They've done it for the past seven
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  Speaker 2: years or so. This is an example.
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  Speaker 3: You got to let us actually question. You're just talking.
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  Speaker 10: Donald Donald, Donald Donald.
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  Speaker 3: You're not going to keep talking.
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  Speaker 2: We will go to break if you keep talking, We're
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  Speaker 2: going to ask a question. You give there, you get
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  Speaker 2: the idea. So it was fiery for a long time.
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  Speaker 2: It was a visceral hatred. Right anyway, over the weekend,
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  Speaker 2: what do they do. They go to mar A Lago.
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  Speaker 11: Joe and I went to Mara a Lago to meet
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  Speaker 11: personally with President like Trump. Joe and I realize it's
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  Speaker 11: time to do something different, and that starts with not
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  Speaker 11: only talking about Donald Trump, but also talking with him.
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  Speaker 2: So what they've realized is that eighty million of their
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  Speaker 2: fellow countrymen actually did vote for Donald Trump. And you
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: can hardly run the TV show, a media outlet without
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: possibly talking to the guy that they voted for. So
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: a bit of a u turn from them. Twenty two
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  Speaker 2: away from six, Ryan Bridge and our reporters now, and
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: we start with Callen Proctor and Ned and Cullum. Good morning,
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  Speaker 2: to you. There's some study from otago Uni really interesting
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: looking at the mental health impacts of face masks.
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  Speaker 3: Ye morning, Ryan.
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  Speaker 12: The studies found that wearing free those masks can have
• 20:01
  Speaker 12: negative impacts on our mood and focus. Students aged eighteen
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  Speaker 12: to thirty six years old specifically felt less happy, more
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  Speaker 12: tense as well while wearing a mask for eight hours
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  Speaker 12: compared to when they weren't. They also performed worse on
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  Speaker 12: a cognitive test. The studies authors say it's surprising given
• 20:18
  Speaker 12: students are generally at their peak developed mentally. They say
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  Speaker 12: they concern the impacts could be worse for vulnerable populations
• 20:25
  Speaker 12: who will likely struggle more. We're that today a few
• 20:30
  Speaker 12: showers morning and evening for Danedin and seventeen today.
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  Speaker 2: They just need to make the face masks clear, don't
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: they so we can all see each other? Still, I'm
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: sure they wouldn't work our clear than christ Church clear.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: Good morning to you. It calls for the government to
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: do more on Pike River.
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  Speaker 13: Yes, well, to do more in terms of honoring the
• 20:47
  Speaker 13: legacy of the Pike River disaster.
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  Speaker 14: Ryan.
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  Speaker 13: So, of course, the West Coast mine exploded fourteen years ago.
• 20:53
  Speaker 13: The anniversary was yesterday. We know the bodies of the
• 20:56
  Speaker 13: twenty nine men have never been recovered. Minister of Workplace
• 20:59
  Speaker 13: Relations Brook van Walden did acknowledge the anniversary yesterday. She
• 21:03
  Speaker 13: read a statement in Parliament, but it toos Mark Anderson says, well,
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  Speaker 13: it's good the House took some time to recognize the incident.
• 21:10
  Speaker 13: The minister's actions show lessons have not been learned. He
• 21:13
  Speaker 13: says the government is looking for ways to water down
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  Speaker 13: the Health and Safety at Work Act when more robust
• 21:19
  Speaker 13: laws are actually needed.
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  Speaker 2: All right, how's your weather today, Claire.
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  Speaker 13: Could be a few showers about christ which today could
• 21:25
  Speaker 13: be heavy, maybe some hail, but should clear by evening,
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  Speaker 13: light winds and a high of nineteen.
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  Speaker 2: Right, thank you very much and enjoy Maxis and Wellington
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: max decent crowd for the hec woy yesterday.
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  Speaker 15: I think it's fair to say, yeah. I think it's
• 21:37
  Speaker 15: also fair to say it exceeded expectations, probably just really
• 21:41
  Speaker 15: due to the number of Wellingtonians who were joined, maybe
• 21:44
  Speaker 15: at the last minutes. Maybe they were always planning two
• 21:46
  Speaker 15: public servants for instance, taking a few hours off work,
• 21:49
  Speaker 15: local Maldi indigenous people as well. We were hearing anything
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  Speaker 15: from five to ten thousand up to thirty thousand in
• 21:55
  Speaker 15: estimates beforehand yesterday, but police reckon it got up to
• 22:00
  Speaker 15: forty two thousand in the end. The organizers of the
• 22:03
  Speaker 15: hikoy as you'd imagine, reckoned more closer to fifty thousand,
• 22:07
  Speaker 15: and to be honest, it could well have been. The
• 22:09
  Speaker 15: Parliament grounds were full, neighboring streets. A lot of people
• 22:11
  Speaker 15: couldn't even get to Parliament. There was disruption yesterday obviously
• 22:15
  Speaker 15: traffic wise, but I think all things being weighed up,
• 22:18
  Speaker 15: police transport operators fairly happy with how it went down.
• 22:22
  Speaker 15: Up to forty thousand people passed through Central Railway station.
• 22:25
  Speaker 15: There were twenty medical related incidents people fainting, nothing too serious,
• 22:30
  Speaker 15: though a few kids went missing.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: They were found.
• 22:32
  Speaker 15: One person was arrested around midday for disorderly behavior. Otherwise
• 22:36
  Speaker 15: nothing of note according to police.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Not bad all right. How's the weather today?
• 22:41
  Speaker 15: Some rain this morning, then partly cloudy eighteen the high brilliant.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: Thank you and neighbors and Auckland. Hey Neaver, good morning.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Tell me about the events. Funding for Auckland.
• 22:51
  Speaker 16: Yes, well, now this is pressure on the government. This
• 22:53
  Speaker 16: is to allow Auckland Council to introduce a big text
• 22:57
  Speaker 16: so Auckland Council was warned earlier this year that look
• 23:00
  Speaker 16: dollars of extra funding isn't found, many major events could
• 23:03
  Speaker 16: be at risk for next year. So Wayne Brown's latest
• 23:06
  Speaker 16: budget proposal now that doesn't include any increases in targeted
• 23:10
  Speaker 16: or general rates for the events. And Shane Henderson, he's
• 23:13
  Speaker 16: a counselor, he said, look to central government. They need
• 23:15
  Speaker 16: to legislate. They need to allow the council to introduce
• 23:18
  Speaker 16: a visitor levy on accommodation providers. Henderson says, they just
• 23:22
  Speaker 16: want the ability to work with local businesses to find
• 23:24
  Speaker 16: a scheme that works, get the money in there.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: And what events? Do we know what ones might be?
• 23:29
  Speaker 16: No, they haven't said, but.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: It's a big pole with money, Paul.
• 23:32
  Speaker 16: And they're thinking, you know, like I suppose America's cover.
• 23:34
  Speaker 16: Imagine if that was ever to be hosted here with
• 23:36
  Speaker 16: you know those big.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Bit more than seven million. Hey, but interesting that whenever
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: we have these problems now we've seen it with the
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: dock tracks in the last couple of days, we go
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: foreigners they'll pay exactly, you know, when we're hard up,
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: we just look to the tourists. Yeah, Anyway, it looks
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: like we might do it in Auckland as well. Whe
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: how's the weather today?
• 23:55
  Speaker 16: Showers this morning, clearing though by early afternoon we've got
• 23:57
  Speaker 16: a few isolated evening shower. I was peppering the region.
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  Speaker 16: Twenty is the high brilliant.
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  Speaker 2: Away from sex Lots of smith Nicks right now, Gavin
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  Speaker 2: Gray out of the UK. How is Britain responding? The
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: UK responding to news that Biden has given the green
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: light for the use of these long range missiles and
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: to Russia for Ukraine and now that Ukraine has used them.
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  Speaker 17: Yeah, right, And it's a bit of a sort of
• 25:23
  Speaker 17: cagy game at the moment because of course America not
• 25:25
  Speaker 17: saying a great deal about its involvement, leaving it to
• 25:29
  Speaker 17: Ukraine to talk about and indeed the UK sort of
• 25:32
  Speaker 17: playing a similar game. So Keir Starmer saying the quickest
• 25:35
  Speaker 17: way for this conflict to end is for Russia to stop.
• 25:39
  Speaker 17: He said, it's a thousand days of Russian aggression, a
• 25:41
  Speaker 17: thousand days of sacrifice by Ukraine. And he said it's
• 25:45
  Speaker 17: clear that we must give Ukraine the support that's needed
• 25:48
  Speaker 17: for as long as it's needed, and the simplest way
• 25:51
  Speaker 17: to end this conflict is for Russia to stop the aggression.
• 25:54
  Speaker 17: He would not be drawn on the significance of that
• 25:56
  Speaker 17: decision by the Americans to let Ukraine use those missiles
• 26:00
  Speaker 17: for strikes into Russia. And you know, similar comments actually
• 26:03
  Speaker 17: made as well by the European Union's top diplomat Joseppe
• 26:08
  Speaker 17: Burrell in comments and response really to Russia changing its
• 26:14
  Speaker 17: changing its sort of constitution as it were, around when
• 26:17
  Speaker 17: it is okay to fire a nuclear weapon and Josette
• 26:21
  Speaker 17: Burrell saying its not the first time they threatened nuclear escalation.
• 26:24
  Speaker 17: It is completely irresponsible. Interesting that as you look as
• 26:28
  Speaker 17: well at the financial markets now across Europe, the dollar
• 26:32
  Speaker 17: has risen against major rivals like the pound and the
• 26:36
  Speaker 17: euro gold cost jumped, and plenty of people as well
• 26:39
  Speaker 17: looking at the markets which are very jittery over this,
• 26:42
  Speaker 17: with the pound losing some value against the dollar this afternoon.
• 26:47
  Speaker 17: And suffice to say as well that earlier the foreign
• 26:49
  Speaker 17: ministers of the UK, Germany, France, Poland, Italy and Spain
• 26:52
  Speaker 17: all releasing a joint statement saying russia systematic attacks on
• 26:56
  Speaker 17: European security architecture are unprecedent entered in their variety in
• 27:01
  Speaker 17: scale and creating a significant security risk. And by that
• 27:05
  Speaker 17: they're talking about recent cuts to communication cables between the
• 27:09
  Speaker 17: European Union.
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot going on there, and we just spoke
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: to a Russian security expert who reckons, Look, it is
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: significant that the Americans are involved here, and it's their
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: weaponry that's going now long range into Russia. Five out
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: of six, by the way, the Russians managed to shoot
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: down before they hit. It is significant, but that Russia
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: is not going to do very much in the way
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: of a response. Nothing too drastic or significant. That was
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: his take anyway, Just gone twelve minutes away from six o'clock.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: Ryan Bridge so.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: Calls this morning for harsher punishments for MP's misbehaving in
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: the house he's in on first. Shane Jones says to
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: party Marti's routine last week was a step too far.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: It was a disgrace, and he says Standing orders needer
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: once over.
• 27:52
  Speaker 14: We now need to reform, sharpen and bring Standing Orders
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  Speaker 14: into a world where it is a parent a host
• 28:01
  Speaker 14: of members no longer fear the consequences.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: So Lockwood Smith is a former speaker of the Houses
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: with us this morning. Mortena, good morning morning, right, great
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: to have you on the show. Do we need tougher penalties,
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: harsher penalties? Do they actually work?
• 28:18
  Speaker 9: It's an interesting issue because obviously Parliament has some real privileges.
• 28:22
  Speaker 9: I mean, as speaker at the start through parliament you
• 28:26
  Speaker 9: go to the Governor General, the head of state in
• 28:29
  Speaker 9: New Zealand and seek the privileges of the Parliament from
• 28:33
  Speaker 9: the Governor General. And one of those privileges, of course,
• 28:37
  Speaker 9: is the privilege of free speech in the Parliament, which
• 28:40
  Speaker 9: is pretty special. You know what you can say. A
• 28:42
  Speaker 9: member can say almost anything in the House and not
• 28:45
  Speaker 9: be sued for it. So the privileges are very special
• 28:48
  Speaker 9: and to breach those privileges to is a serious issue.
• 28:53
  Speaker 9: And okay, the other day, I think the Speaker named
• 28:56
  Speaker 9: a member for you know, interrupting the proceedings of the House,
• 29:04
  Speaker 9: and the penalty for that's only one day's exclusion. They
• 29:07
  Speaker 9: lose a member that's named, loses their pay for one day.
• 29:11
  Speaker 9: They can't be involved in the debate or committees or anything.
• 29:15
  Speaker 9: They can't vote for a day. If they do it again,
• 29:17
  Speaker 9: of course, it's seven days. And if they do it
• 29:19
  Speaker 9: beyond that, it's even a bigger penalty again for a
• 29:23
  Speaker 9: third offense. But it's possible, you know, that the issue
• 29:27
  Speaker 9: should be referred to the Standing Orders Committee, which is
• 29:30
  Speaker 9: a committee of senior members of Parliament that meets every
• 29:33
  Speaker 9: parliamentary term to upfate the Standing Orders and look at
• 29:37
  Speaker 9: that issue of the severity of that first breach, you know,
• 29:41
  Speaker 9: just being named and suspended from the House for one day.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: And it was a Thursday. Quite it was a Thursday too,
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: so it wasn't much happening on that in the House
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: on a Friday. Anyway. Seymour reckons that because of social media,
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: the electoral benefits to people from protest and doing things
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: like this far outway at any punishment, you know, and
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: with your TikTok moment, So maybe there is a case
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: to dop more pay or something like that, something more
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: severe or on the other hand, do you allow time
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: for a hacker if there's going to be a controversial bill,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: you know.
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  Speaker 9: Well, I think that's something that also the Speaker can consider.
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  Speaker 9: I mean, over recent years when treaty settlements have been made,
• 30:28
  Speaker 9: they are important occasions and EWE often attend in significant
• 30:31
  Speaker 9: numbers and it's been a tremendous development that in consultation
• 30:36
  Speaker 9: with the Speaker, let's agreed that the EWI present can
• 30:41
  Speaker 9: perform a way to cup a Hacker event. And that's great.
• 30:45
  Speaker 9: You know, it's it's lovely to see it, it's lovely
• 30:48
  Speaker 9: to hear it, and it recognizes a Maori, a Maori
• 30:52
  Speaker 9: culture and traditions, and so there's no reason why that
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  Speaker 9: couldn't be explored as well that where there's something that's
• 31:00
  Speaker 9: really really held deeply by Mary, that that could be
• 31:04
  Speaker 9: allowanced for some performance of a cultural activity. And there's
• 31:11
  Speaker 9: no reason why that couldn't happen. But it needs to be.
• 31:14
  Speaker 9: It can't be just jumped on the house. You can't
• 31:17
  Speaker 9: reach a surprise.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: Is the surprise Hacker. I think that there was the
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: problem with Sir lockwood Smith, former Speaker, appreciate your time.
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  Speaker 2: It is eight to six and his talk said.
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  Speaker 2: There'd be six away from sixty two food stuffs co
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: ops that are wanting to merge and the Commerce Commission
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: has said no, while they are going to appeal the
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: decision by the courts that that can't happen. Food Stuffs
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: North Island and food Stuff's South Island insists that merging
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: into a single national offerative will lower the checkout prices,
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  Speaker 2: and the ComCom says no prices will go up. And
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: if you're a supplier, you basically only have two avenues
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: to sell your goods to as opposed to three, which
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: is the current makeup. And so we'll have to wait
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: and see what happens with that. It has just gone
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: five minutes away from six and Mic is here with
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  Speaker 2: you next. Good morning, Good morning.
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  Speaker 18: I got a piece on that this morning. The funny
• 32:21
  Speaker 18: thing about it is is that it depends on whether
• 32:24
  Speaker 18: you argue it in court on fact or whether you
• 32:27
  Speaker 18: argue it on the zeitgeist. Because the zeitgeist is that
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  Speaker 18: groceryes are too expensive and they're all robber barons and
• 32:35
  Speaker 18: they're allout to rip us off, like airlines and telcos
• 32:37
  Speaker 18: and banks and all the other stuff.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: So if you followed the.
• 32:39
  Speaker 18: Banks the other day, they're in front of a committee,
• 32:42
  Speaker 18: the Government committee, and they made some very cogent, sensible
• 32:45
  Speaker 18: arguments about their profit yeah, and what is it a superprofit?
• 32:49
  Speaker 18: What is a profit exactly? And who decides the Green Party? Yeah,
• 32:53
  Speaker 18: that the arbitrarily the Commist Commission's arbitrarily decided that if you,
• 32:57
  Speaker 18: if you, because it makes perfect sense to merge two
• 32:59
  Speaker 18: bits your company together.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, doesn't it the synergy.
• 33:02
  Speaker 18: Efficiency and you can pass those efficiencies onto the punter.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: But we just think key The key is though here
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: is that the ComCom has said that suppliers will have
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: fewer places to sell their goods. They have two in
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: seat of three. And what foodstuffs is is actually we
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: did not compete when buying groceries between our two entities
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: on different sides of the islands.
• 33:23
  Speaker 18: Here's the other thing. At at this very moment in Australia,
• 33:26
  Speaker 18: the same thing's going on. There's an investigation to supermakers
• 33:29
  Speaker 18: with the lawyer representing one of the players yesterday said
• 33:31
  Speaker 18: we're not land banking. We are not land banking. So
• 33:33
  Speaker 18: their regulatory authority goes, well you are, because look, you
• 33:36
  Speaker 18: own land. You haven't built a supermarket, and they go, well,
• 33:38
  Speaker 18: we own then we're going to build.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: A At the end of the day, it is annoying
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: and it's probably not going to change anything. But you
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: do need to have your foot on the you know
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: what I mean, on the break a little what's your
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: foot on? Your foot is on the brake a little bit.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: With these guys, do what to slow down? No, no,
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: just to kind of force.
• 33:55
  Speaker 18: Them to, albeit subtly, to be a bit more competitive.
• 33:58
  Speaker 18: Oh you think so well? The competition comes around from
• 34:01
  Speaker 18: more players in the.
• 34:02
  Speaker 9: Market, doesn't it.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, we got to go all right.
• 34:08
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