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Frankie Friday: Wanting To See Men Cry with Caelynn Bell · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast.
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  Speaker 2: With on our radio.
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  Speaker 3: It's Almost Famous podcast, and we're back for another Frankie Friday,
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  Speaker 3: the day we round up all the latest news on
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  Speaker 3: Taylor Frankie Paul.
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  Speaker 2: Today.
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  Speaker 3: I'm really excited to be in Carmel, California and joined
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  Speaker 3: by one of the most beautiful, kind and considerate humans
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  Speaker 3: to ever walk through the Bachelor franchise. And she Mary Dean,
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  Speaker 3: which is still confusing to me.
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  Speaker 4: Kaylin Bell, Hello and nice intro.
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  Speaker 3: Uh okay, So I just for listeners out there as
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  Speaker 3: we get this started. Frankie Friday has been a huge hit,
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  Speaker 3: but they're used to Ashley breaking down these headlines. Ashley
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  Speaker 3: has taken it upon herself to really dig into Taylor
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  Speaker 3: Frankie Paul's life. How familiar are you with Taylor Frankie Paul?
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  Speaker 1: I feel like so, I've watched all of the seasons.
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  Speaker 1: How many are there too?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, your way ahead of both of us.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I feel well versed in that sense. I
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  Speaker 1: haven't really kept up with her since she's stopped filming
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  Speaker 1: The Bachelorette.
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  Speaker 3: Are you Are you excited about her getting announced as
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  Speaker 3: the Bachelorette?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah? I think we desperately needed a shake up.
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  Speaker 1: Huh.
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  Speaker 4: This is definitely.
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  Speaker 1: Shaking up what we know, so I'm excited to see
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  Speaker 1: see how it goes. It's also so interesting that she
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  Speaker 1: was filming TikTok's the entire time she was filming.
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  Speaker 2: It's a whole new landscape for the child.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they allowed her access to her life while she
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  Speaker 3: was on the show.
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  Speaker 1: And filming with guys that she's on dates with. You know,
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  Speaker 1: there's one she was on a football field, like holding
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  Speaker 1: someone's hand.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's.
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  Speaker 3: Interesting and I actually don't know this is a good
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  Speaker 3: point to kind of kick us off. I actually don't
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  Speaker 3: know now if it helped the show much at all.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think they did it because they wanted
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  Speaker 3: people talking about it, and I do think people were
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  Speaker 3: talking about it. But I still think the most important
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  Speaker 3: thing they can do is make the season great because
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  Speaker 3: so many fans of The Bachelor at and Bachelor aren't
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  Speaker 3: really following people on social media. They might be older,
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  Speaker 3: you know, they might just watch the show for entertainment.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't actually know if giving her access to
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  Speaker 3: her phone like spiked the interest in this season. I
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  Speaker 3: think it was already going to be something people are
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  Speaker 3: interested about.
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  Speaker 4: I agree.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think it was necessary, but I do
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  Speaker 1: think what we loved, you know, like your season old
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  Speaker 1: school seasons is the messiness and it's I just feel.
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  Speaker 4: Like it's going to be messy.
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  Speaker 2: Oh. I agree.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's going to be like the I think
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  Speaker 3: it will feel like a throwback season where people are
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  Speaker 3: like grown men are weeping. Yeah, they're crying, they're frustrated.
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  Speaker 3: We need that again, we need investment from everybody involved. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: And the one thing we've learned about Taylor Frankie Paul
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  Speaker 3: along the way so far is that she will invest
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  Speaker 3: into this. She is, she's passionate, she's outspoken, and I
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  Speaker 3: think that's going to make for a great season. Now,
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  Speaker 3: let's kick it off with some of the headlines that
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  Speaker 3: have been happening since last Friday. We'll start with this one.
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  Speaker 3: Taylor Frankie Paul wonders if she's worthy of love in
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  Speaker 3: the first promo for The Bachelorette Season twenty two. The
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  Speaker 3: promo was recently released. You can go out and watch
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  Speaker 3: it or google it and find it. The quote here
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  Speaker 3: is she's questioning if she's worthy of love.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I just think It's very interesting to have someone who's
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  Speaker 1: already been on reality TV. I think it's three seasons now.
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  Speaker 1: People have followed her on TikTok and we've seen her
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  Speaker 1: I just I'm so curious about this season. We've seen
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  Speaker 1: her family be like really mean and vicious to her
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  Speaker 1: on these seasons and kind of tell her like you're
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  Speaker 1: not worthy of love in a sense.
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  Speaker 4: So it makes sense that she's questioning this.
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  Speaker 3: When you say family, we've had her her mom on
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  Speaker 3: the show. Her mom seems supportive. Does she come off
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  Speaker 3: supportive on Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.
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  Speaker 1: There is one episode where they're sitting down and her
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  Speaker 1: stepdad is kind of like blaming her for everything that's
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  Speaker 1: happening in the relationship.
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  Speaker 4: I can't remember it.
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  Speaker 1: I just remember it being hard to watch and the
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  Speaker 1: family's kind of like for Dakota and against her is
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  Speaker 1: how it felt.
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  Speaker 3: So Dakota kind of has a team. Yeah, we're speaking
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  Speaker 3: of Dakota. His new girlfriend slams Taylor, Frankie Paul and
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  Speaker 3: the comments underneath the official Bachelor at Instagram. So this
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  Speaker 3: promo is released again, you go out and watch it.
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  Speaker 3: Ashley did a whole breakdown of the trailer that you
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  Speaker 3: can kind of go listen to on the almost famous
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  Speaker 3: thread if you want, like the details of what was
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  Speaker 3: going on in the trailer. But Dakota's girlfriend takes it
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  Speaker 3: upon herself to comment underneath the official Bachelorett Instagram Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's that feels messy already. I mean I saw this
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  Speaker 3: this morning, Taylem.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, I'm just looking at it for the first time too.
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  Speaker 1: It's just it's already so messy, Like this is just insane,
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  Speaker 1: and we haven't had I guess we've had people come
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  Speaker 1: out like once the show is airing, like ex'es come
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  Speaker 1: out or maybe come on shows, like there was a
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  Speaker 1: season I feel like a few seasons where x's would
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  Speaker 1: come on shows. But now you have the ex's girlfriend
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  Speaker 1: already slamming the lead.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know her comment is this This isn't going
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  Speaker 3: to age very well. And then someone else added below
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  Speaker 3: it can't wait for Bachelor Nation to find out their
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  Speaker 3: bachelorette is actually the one there for the wrong reasons.
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  Speaker 1: But okay, it's just like that, it's such an old
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  Speaker 1: trophe that we need to get over because yeah, she's
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  Speaker 1: a reality TV star, she's a TikTok star. This girl
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  Speaker 1: has millions of followers. She's there for TV.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'm with you. Yeah, I mean, let's be honest.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think Taylor Frankie Paul signed up to be
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  Speaker 3: the Bachelorette only for the idea that she could find love, right,
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  Speaker 3: And I think we're okay with that.
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  Speaker 1: But everyone on the show, you know, like that's been
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  Speaker 1: an ongoing thing since, you know, before my season or
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  Speaker 1: Myson that I was on.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I was honest.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I think most people would say, hey, this
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  Speaker 3: felt like I was not dating at the time. I
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  Speaker 3: was excited about meeting somebody. I said yes because one,
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  Speaker 3: I wanted to find somebody, so I had that in
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  Speaker 3: my back pocket, right, But the second part was this
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  Speaker 3: sounds fun, like this is something new and exciting. The
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  Speaker 3: biggest like catalyst for me saying yes to being the
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  Speaker 3: Bachelor or even going on The Bachelor that maybe would
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  Speaker 3: have been a better example of this was I want
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  Speaker 3: to shake my own life up a bit, and if
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  Speaker 3: in the meantime I meet somebody that I fall in
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  Speaker 3: love with, awesome. Yeah, but I think that's probably similar
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  Speaker 3: to Taylor Frankie Paul's reasoning. Right, great, it's really good
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  Speaker 3: for her career, puts her out there, and if she
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  Speaker 3: finds somebody in the process, awesome, But what is exactly
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  Speaker 3: doesn't mean when you're not there for the right reasons,
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  Speaker 3: Like if you go onto the show thinking I am
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  Speaker 3: going to find my partner in this, gonna get married
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  Speaker 3: from this, I think that makes for a terrible season. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: because somebody is like, that's really weird to think that
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  Speaker 3: in ten weeks, I'm gonna be on one knee and
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  Speaker 3: no matter what, this is my partner.
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  Speaker 2: I think it works sometimes.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I don't know if I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if there's a fair argument, Like you said, when you're
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  Speaker 3: not there for the right reasons, is my point. I
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  Speaker 3: think she said yes to this because it was a
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  Speaker 3: good opportunity, and I think she is worthy of love,
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  Speaker 3: and I hope she finds love on this season. I
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  Speaker 3: just hope it is not. I hope it's messy along
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  Speaker 3: the way.
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  Speaker 1: We need it, we really desperately need it, we do.
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  Speaker 1: But it's interesting too, the wrong reason stuff. Again, we've
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  Speaker 1: never had someone in this way join the show. She's
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  Speaker 1: been doing press tours, she's been doing she's on billboards,
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  Speaker 1: she's on the side of buses. She was interviewing with
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  Speaker 1: Dina Katz to be on Dancing with the Stars, like
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  Speaker 1: we see all this in the show. So to say
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  Speaker 1: like she's there for the wrong reason, she's already kind
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  Speaker 1: of like got that fame. So maybe I'm negating my point.
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  Speaker 1: I don't really know, but I think it's just fun.
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  Speaker 3: It's just another thing for her to say yes to.
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  Speaker 3: And the way the show is set up. If she
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  Speaker 3: meets the love of her life through awesome, if she doesn't,
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  Speaker 3: what we know is we're gonna watch good television. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and ultimately both those are wins. She fine love she couldn't,
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  Speaker 3: but we're gonna enjoy watching it.
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  Speaker 4: We need to be entertained.
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  Speaker 3: We need to be entertained. I want to This isn't
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  Speaker 3: a headline here, Kaylin, But because you'd have watched The
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  Speaker 3: Secret Lives and Mormon Wives, we've we've dug in a
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  Speaker 3: little bit to Dakota. I don't know if I quite
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  Speaker 3: understand the closeness of their relationship.
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  Speaker 2: I know they share how many.
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  Speaker 3: Kids together, one or two one kid together, so that
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  Speaker 3: obviously ties them. But it does feel like for an
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  Speaker 3: X that he is around and he's a very prominent
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  Speaker 3: figure in her life, even outside of being you know,
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  Speaker 3: co parenting. And then his current girl friend. I find
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  Speaker 3: this a little bit odd.
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  Speaker 4: Me.
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  Speaker 2: If I think about my now wife.
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  Speaker 3: And maybe an X of mine commenting on my wife's
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  Speaker 3: photo something negative, I would think that would be a
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  Speaker 3: very weird behavior.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's inappropriate.
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  Speaker 1: I just think Dakota is, for lack of a better word, manipulative.
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  Speaker 1: He wants it seems like he desperately wants to be
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  Speaker 1: on the show. He desperately wants to be famous. So
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  Speaker 1: for her to comment that is kind of ironic, but
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  Speaker 1: also like the manipulation started. You know, we saw in
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  Speaker 1: the seasons playing out, but then this most recent season
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  Speaker 1: they had a reunion where he was like kicked basically
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  Speaker 1: all the people off on the stage that he didn't
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  Speaker 1: want there and said I'll only come, like gave the
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  Speaker 1: producers an ultimatum essentially.
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  Speaker 4: So it's just he just has weird behaviors.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, And is there I think I remember
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  Speaker 3: this from an interview we did with an insider on
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  Speaker 3: The Secret Lives, like there's a team Dakota and a
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  Speaker 3: team Taylor, Right.
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  Speaker 4: Oh are they? I thought it was like, I.
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  Speaker 3: Don't know, you explain you remind me I'm asking more
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  Speaker 3: of the question. Is there like two t is there
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  Speaker 3: like fans of both? Or Okay, maybe I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: That clears up everything I was asking. Next headline is
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  Speaker 3: this Taylor shares what she's doing for herself in this
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  Speaker 3: phase of life and an IG story. Last Saturday, Taylor
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  Speaker 3: posted a mere selfie with this text and I quote.
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  Speaker 3: This phase I'm in is fast paced with high cortisol,
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  Speaker 3: So I'm learning what helps, especially for my mental health.
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  Speaker 3: Red light therapy has helped my mood. Liquid IV before
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  Speaker 3: travel in the arm helps with hydration, vitamins, energy levels.
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  Speaker 3: B twelve shots are straight to the bloodstream, which is
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  Speaker 3: more effective, helps with my energy levels and mood, and
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  Speaker 3: most of all, pray. The sense I'm getting Kaylin is
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  Speaker 3: that she's trying to be very intentional about slowing down
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  Speaker 3: because it feels like life sped up really fast and
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  Speaker 3: maybe more than she expected.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder too, and maybe I'm totally off base here,
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  Speaker 1: but like, how much of this is producers being like
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  Speaker 1: from the Bachelor being like we kind of need to
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  Speaker 1: chill out, and like you're about to be the bachelorette,
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  Speaker 1: it's about to air, So I don't know how much
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  Speaker 1: they have an influence with this.
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  Speaker 3: I honestly, if I think back on my time, that
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  Speaker 3: role was always played by Chris and the people I
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  Speaker 3: know who have been on the show with Jesse as
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  Speaker 3: the host says that Jesse has a very similar way
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  Speaker 3: of going about it. So the host, like Chris was
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  Speaker 3: always one of the first to call me and be like,
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  Speaker 3: hey you good, like just checking in, like I saw
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  Speaker 3: this video or somebody saw you an event and you
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  Speaker 3: started crying for no reason, like are.
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  Speaker 2: You doing okay?
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  Speaker 3: And what I know about Jesse is he's doing the
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  Speaker 3: same thing for people. He's one of the first that
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  Speaker 3: people call or that we'll call them. I didn't have
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  Speaker 3: that kind of relationship with a producer. Yeah, I do,
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  Speaker 3: hope for I don't want to say that because I've
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  Speaker 3: been there, and I know Taylor is in the quiet
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  Speaker 3: season of the show, filming stopped, hasn't aired, Press isn't
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  Speaker 3: really out there yet, She's not traveling across the country
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  Speaker 3: to Good Morning America then back to LA to today's show,
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  Speaker 3: back to LA and the headlines really, you know, we
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  Speaker 3: talk about the headlines, but they're not everywhere on our TVs.
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  Speaker 3: She's in the quiet part, and for her sake, if
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  Speaker 3: she listens to this show, I hope she does take
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  Speaker 3: this chunk of time to rest because it just speeds up.
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  Speaker 3: And then, like you said, what happens after she's a bachelor,
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  Speaker 3: she maybe goes on Dance with the Stars. Still filming
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  Speaker 3: Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. She's at every award shown
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  Speaker 3: event that exists in the world, Like this could be
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  Speaker 3: a year's speeding up if she doesn't intentionally take time
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  Speaker 3: to say no, I'm going to say no to stuff
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  Speaker 3: and I'm going to sit in this season.
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  Speaker 4: Which it does feel like.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know Jesse, but it seems like he's a
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  Speaker 1: relatively healthy guy, like prioritizes hell, So maybe he is
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  Speaker 1: guiding her in this or maybe it's just her being like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my god, I need to figure this out before
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  Speaker 1: it does speed up.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and I mean she she is a mom like that.
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  Speaker 4: I forget that all the time.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that role doesn't stop.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like it's not like that ends.
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  Speaker 2: She is a star.
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  Speaker 3: She and she this kind of blew up for her
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  Speaker 3: very quickly, right like Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. It
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  Speaker 3: started on social media and within the last few years,
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  Speaker 3: this is really gone to become one of the America's
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  Speaker 3: most watched shows.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I hope.
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  Speaker 3: Taylor, if you're listening, take it for somebody who's been there.
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  Speaker 3: Don't be afraid to say no, and make sure you rest.
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  Speaker 1: In.
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  Speaker 3: I might go as far as Kaylen is saying that
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  Speaker 3: some of the social media and we'll get to the
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  Speaker 3: lost headline here that I think points to this. It
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  Speaker 3: almost feels like when I watch her social media right now,
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  Speaker 3: it is like a cry for help. It's not because
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  Speaker 3: I think she's like I don't want to make that
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  Speaker 3: sound like she's like losing her mind. That's not what
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  Speaker 3: my point, but it almost looks like she's looking at
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  Speaker 3: the camera being like somebody told me it's okay to stop. Yeah, yeah, please,
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  Speaker 3: like somebody helped me. Because this is a lot right now.
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  Speaker 3: And I wonder how many people are around her, like
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  Speaker 3: loving on her even if she's difficult, but like if
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  Speaker 3: her family isn't like super supportive and backing up early,
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  Speaker 3: who is wrapping their arms around her right now being
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  Speaker 3: like hey, it's okay, like you're.
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  Speaker 1: Good And hopefully if they are, and hopefully the family
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  Speaker 1: switched their tune and they're just nothing but supportive.
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  Speaker 3: Something very important to take life that she's been sharing
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  Speaker 3: about recently is her faith. She posted a video that
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  Speaker 3: we just watched. It's hard for me to watch. It's
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  Speaker 3: a lot of like cutting and quick and fast, and
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  Speaker 3: there's a lot of like.
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  Speaker 4: Men from gen Z.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's very much gen Z and I'm I
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  Speaker 3: was lost halfway through. But the point of the video
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  Speaker 3: is that she's been sharing about her faith. But she
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  Speaker 3: says when she shares about her faith online, her life
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  Speaker 3: actually gets heavier. I don't want to dive into the
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  Speaker 3: theology of this. This feels like when I watched it
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  Speaker 3: Kaylen a conversation, I would just love, like as a
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  Speaker 3: human to human with her in person. But the point
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  Speaker 3: is she said that her mental health is struggling as
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  Speaker 3: she shares these positive things, and life feels heavier as
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  Speaker 3: she's talking about her faith.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I not in a religious sense.
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  Speaker 1: I just feel I feel like I've gone through this
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  Speaker 1: in so many different ways since starting social media. It's
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  Speaker 1: like if you make a mistake, you kind of feel
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  Speaker 1: like you can't comment on anything beyond religion, beyond like
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  Speaker 1: there's so many things that I felt this in a
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  Speaker 1: lot of ways and then I've also gone through phases
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  Speaker 1: where I've been like who cares? Like this is the
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  Speaker 1: dumbest thing I'm posting on social media? This like truly,
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  Speaker 1: who cares? So I get what she's saying, and then
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  Speaker 1: add in the religious aspect to it all, it's just
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  Speaker 1: like it does get heavy.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think social media has had many seasons
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  Speaker 3: for me where heaviness is the outcome of things that
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  Speaker 3: are shared or post or even what other people post,
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  Speaker 3: Like when i see some of my friends who share
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  Speaker 3: something and I'm like, that feels heavy to me, like
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  Speaker 3: it's heavy on my heart. The one thing she does,
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  Speaker 3: and I don't know if I'll get her exact phrasing.
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  Speaker 3: She ends that video by saying, don't live in shame.
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  Speaker 3: I think was pretty much the message there, And I
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  Speaker 3: think that is a message that she needs to tell
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  Speaker 3: her herself and that we all need to hear, because,
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  Speaker 3: as you said, if we do something we mess up
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  Speaker 3: in life, it feels like we know. I think with
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: social media, especially in so much immediate feedback, we feel
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: like we're not capable of speaking about anything else in
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: any type of wise or helpful way.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: It's also cancel culture that people don't want us to change.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: They're like, you made this mistake, You're kind of stuck there.
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: And especially with The Bachelor, I've noticed like when.
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: Were you on it? You were twenty eighty sixteen twenty.
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  Speaker 2: How old were you twenty five to twenty six?
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Moly, so you're twenty five to a lot of people.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: You're frozen at twenty five to a lot of people.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: I'm frozen at twenty three. So now there's this new
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: added layer that I don't know. It's really tricky.
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  Speaker 3: That's a great point. Yeah, where you get stuck in
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: that time warp. And here's the thing that we forget
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: since spainning of time. Humans are on a journey figuring out,
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: messing up, getting back up again, moving forward. But because
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: of the cancel culture and because of the immediate feedback,
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: it feels like we don't have the ability to make
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: a mistake or come forward and say, hey, I'm really
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: struggling right now. I'm going to share this message from
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: Jesus calling this is what Taylor was sharing. That's really
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: spoken to me. And right away probably there's negative feedback
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: on that is like why are you struggling with this?
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: And oh, of course you're like leaning on Jesus, but
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: you're out there dancing on a TikTok and it's like
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: it's so much noise that it's hard to get clarity
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: on how we can just move through life and gain
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: wisdom and gain a foundation.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: But if she's listening, Yeah, my best advice to anyone
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: who's ever been on the show. And like anytime if
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: I'm posting something maybe it's political, I don't check my
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: DMS if I know I'm going through something and people
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: are mad at me, like it's easier said than done.
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: I find it to be very, very easy because I
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: don't like to bring in hate and just don't look
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: like it really And that's kind of what's driving me
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: crazy lately with social media landscape is people are like,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: I lost this follower, lost this follower.
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: This follower is saying this, you don't have to.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Look yeah, I'm with you, or I made a decision.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: I haven't been on Reddit in years.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's crazy that people go on Reddit,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: like why would you want to read that?
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: It's literally I'm going to open this up so that
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: I read negative things about myself, Like that is the
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: that is I've never been on there and I've been
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: like more encouraged or felt supported.
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: Yes again, we kind of go back.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: When it comes to Taylor Frankie paul Is, she is
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: in the midst of a season of life that is busy,
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: that is chaotic.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: He's about to.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: Be the lead of a huge show. And for anybody listening,
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: I think it's okay to rest, it's okay to take
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: a step back, even the fact means you're saying no
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: to you know, some money or some opportunities. The best
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: thing I ever did, and this was from a pastor
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: in my life, when I came off the show, I
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: would block out time of my day to just sit
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: in silence, like no music, noise, no TV. Maybe go
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: for a walk or just sit and just like let
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: my thoughts kind of like settle. And it has become
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: one of the most helpful habits because I get back
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: in touch with myself. I maybe can hear from God,
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: I can pray a little bit, I can release some
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: things that are on my mind.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: I can journal.
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: But just sitting in silence, no matter where I'm at
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: in the world, has been one of the best gifts.
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: And what that does is what you were saying, is
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: it takes you off the social media. It takes you
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: from the scrolling. When you think you're resting, No, you're
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: still consuming when you're scrolling. On almost this podcast, we
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: have made the decision to fully support Taylor Frankie Paul.
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: We are excited for this season. We think this is
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: the show needed to shake up. It doesn't mean that
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: we don't think it's going to be wild and messy
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: and wacky, and it doesn't mean that there's not going
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: to be episodes where we're like, what was Taylor doing?
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: That was wild? However, it does feel like when she
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: got announced as the Bachelorette, so many people were more
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: excited to see her fail than six seed. They were
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: watching the show to see only the messiness. I want that,
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: But what we really want is for her to benefit
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: from this show that's you know, helped us in so
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: many ways.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I was sure nothing but success and that
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: is unfortunate, you know, And I think that comes from
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: her having a big platform already people are just like,
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: you've had enough, you've gotten enough money, whatever, followers. But
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: I hope she is really successful and the messiness comes
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: from like making the men cry, you know, like they
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: want her to be happy.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I want these dudes to be just puddled. Yes,
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: that's what I need.
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: This has been another Franky Friday on the Almost Famous Podcast.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: Again, we had.
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: The wonderful co host Kaylen Bell with us today. Until
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: next time, I've been Ben, I've been Kaylen. Thank you, Kaylen.
• 21:50
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