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- 0:03SPEAKER_00: Welcome to the Seeking Approval Podcast.
- 0:05SPEAKER_00: I'm Dr.
- 0:06SPEAKER_00: Chris Smilster from the Iliad Baptist Church.
- 0:08SPEAKER_00: You know, life moves fast, and faith is not meant to be rushed.
- 0:12SPEAKER_00: I want to take some time and slow down with you and have some honest conversations from the Word of God about daily living.
- 0:20SPEAKER_00: So join me here today on Seeking Approval.
- 0:26SPEAKER_00: Something is out there.
- 0:28SPEAKER_00: What is it?
- 0:29SPEAKER_00: I want to take a moment with you this morning.
- 0:33SPEAKER_00: Look at a subject that, well, if I can be honest and say, I never thought I would be talking about this.
- 0:40SPEAKER_00: I want to look at the aliens, UFOs, and the unknown that seem to be making many headlines.
- 0:47SPEAKER_00: Most recently, the Joe Rogan podcast, which is the most popular one in the world, had an entire episode dealing with this.
- 0:57SPEAKER_00: So I want to deal with this and I want to look at it from a Christian point of view.
- 1:00SPEAKER_00: I don't want to get into speculation.
- 1:02SPEAKER_00: I don't want to talk about the little blue and green men or the blue bodies or whatever it is that they were referring to it and all these things, because I think there's some things that's being lost along the way that we are we run down a road so quickly with fast, the way that that information moves so fast, I think we are too quick to run down the road sometimes.
- 1:25SPEAKER_00: So I want to slow down for a minute and look at it with you today.
- 1:28SPEAKER_00: Again, we're dealing with contemporary issues that's going on now and how we should view these from a Christian standpoint.
- 1:34SPEAKER_00: So practical living with some of the things we're dealing with that we never thought we would deal with.
- 1:40SPEAKER_00: The government now routinely, instead of using UFOs or aliens, they use the term the UAP, unidentified anomalous phenomenon.
- 1:50SPEAKER_00: In August 2026, the Pentagon's UAP office released this military footage.
- 2:00SPEAKER_00: It was a gunship that showed objects that was described in one of their intelligence reports.
- 2:07SPEAKER_00: It was four dots.
- 2:09SPEAKER_00: They called them cold orbs that were moving in strategic side-to-side manners.
- 2:18SPEAKER_00: Now, they've not been identified.
- 2:21SPEAKER_00: So they are still, you know, unidentified anomalous phenomenon.
- 2:25SPEAKER_00: We would call them uh identified flying objects, UFOs.
- 2:29SPEAKER_00: But more importantly, I guess the government's own description says the footage should not be taken uh as a conclusion as to what those objects are.
- 2:40SPEAKER_00: But there's other things that now are happening, and and people are talking about matter of fact, the NC uh the uh NA the NASA, here we go, the NASA administrator, uh Jared Isaacman, he said just a few days ago, he said that people should remain, uh including NASA, should remain open-minded about the question.
- 3:04SPEAKER_00: He said the possibilities could range anything from a natural phenomenon to advanced foreign technology to the potential of something extraterrestrial.
- 3:12SPEAKER_00: But he went on to quickly say that he leans heavily towards the natural phenomenon or advanced technology as the two most plausible uh explanations.
- 3:23SPEAKER_00: And when you think about some of the things that we've seen roll out just in the war with Iran, uh the these you know laser ships that America has, the the lasers that are being uh you know shot down from um uh satellites, uh I mean, uh things that we can't even fathom that are possible now.
- 3:46SPEAKER_00: So at the same time, scientists have been searching for signs of any type of alien technology.
- 3:53SPEAKER_00: The STETI Institute, the SETI, the SETI Institute has spent seven straight hours listening for any type of radio signal that came from the atlas.
- 4:04SPEAKER_00: It was the third known object from outside of our solar system to pass through what we would call our neighborhood.
- 4:11SPEAKER_00: And they listened for seven straight hours, listening for any uh radio signals or any kind of radio waves coming from this, uh, and anything that they heard was you know, it would end up being uh human interference, uh radio interference.
- 4:27SPEAKER_00: So it led to nothing.
- 4:30SPEAKER_00: So where we actually stand is that there are things that we have seen and that are not explained, and that unexplained things is not the same thing as alien or extraterrestrial.
- 4:46SPEAKER_00: And so here's where I think that we kind of have to begin as a Christian.
- 4:50SPEAKER_00: Number one, we can't start off, you know, laughing and pointing fingers, or we can't run off panicking and you know, yelling the sky's falling and pretending this doesn't happen.
- 4:59SPEAKER_00: We just we have to ask ourselves, if if life really does exist out there somewhere, what would it mean for Christianity?
- 5:06SPEAKER_00: So that's what I want to deal with.
- 5:08SPEAKER_00: And and by asking that question doesn't mean that I I believe this.
- 5:11SPEAKER_00: I'm just talking, how should we handle this?
- 5:14SPEAKER_00: Because I was asked a question the other day.
- 5:16SPEAKER_00: You know, well, well, what do you do as a Christian if it really does exist?
- 5:20SPEAKER_00: And just in in quick you know, tongue-in-cheek, I said, well, you know, whether it exists or not, I don't know.
- 5:25SPEAKER_00: I can't put God in the box, but I can tell you one thing if they did, Christ died for them.
- 5:29SPEAKER_00: Now that's not you know biblically true, and I said in that previous episode, recording a previous episode that I would go deeper into that, and I will today.
- 5:37SPEAKER_00: But uh what we have to say is that the the Bible never actually says that earth is the only place that God created.
- 5:45SPEAKER_00: We just have our creation account, let me say it that way.
- 5:48SPEAKER_00: Okay, so we only have our creation account back in Genesis, chapter number one, and then you can go into uh Psalm 19, uh uh Psalm, yeah, Psalm 19, Psalm 135, uh sorry, Psalm 104, uh, and you can go over into John, he you know, he touches on it uh as well.
- 6:05SPEAKER_00: But in the in the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth.
- 6:08SPEAKER_00: That's the beginning point of what we know.
- 6:10SPEAKER_00: And in John 1.3, all things were made by him, without animals, not anything made that was made.
- 6:13SPEAKER_00: So even you know, John, when he's talking about, you know, all things were made by him, and not anything made that was made.
- 6:18SPEAKER_00: I mean, you could take that and say, well, what's anything?
- 6:20SPEAKER_00: Well, it's anything.
- 6:21SPEAKER_00: Anything that was made, none of it was made without him.
- 6:24SPEAKER_00: So, I mean, if if you ask John today, if you say, John, is there extraterrestrial life out there?
- 6:30SPEAKER_00: John will say, Well, if it is, God made it.
- 6:33SPEAKER_00: That's a pretty good place to start for us as Christians.
- 6:35SPEAKER_00: If it's out there, God made it.
- 6:37SPEAKER_00: And I can tell you one thing, he's got a plan for it.
- 6:40SPEAKER_00: Colossians 1.16 says, For uh for by him were all things created that are in heaven and are in earth and visible and invisible.
- 6:49SPEAKER_00: Uh that's some pretty big language that we've just read through in those three verses alone.
- 6:54SPEAKER_00: It's all things, it's invisible, it's visible, things we can see, things we don't even know about.
- 6:58SPEAKER_00: So if tomorrow scientists discovered bacteria beneath the ice of Europa, uh, and you know, all of a sudden, you know, you know, people are all up in arms, I can promise you this Christianity would not collapse.
- 7:11SPEAKER_00: God does not become less of a God.
- 7:13SPEAKER_00: In fact, God becomes more of a God because the Bible's already answered the question, because there's not anything made that was made unless God made it.
- 7:18SPEAKER_00: So if they do find bacteria under the ice of Europa, guess what?
- 7:22SPEAKER_00: God made it.
- 7:22SPEAKER_00: He put it there.
- 7:23SPEAKER_00: And there's a reason he put it there.
- 7:25SPEAKER_00: It wasn't by happenstance.
- 7:27SPEAKER_00: If some reason we discover intelligent beings that, you know, some you know, spaceship collapses in the backyard of the church here next to the office, and I go out and shake their hand, the first thing I'm gonna do is try to lead them to Christ.
- 7:39SPEAKER_00: Well, I hope I do.
- 7:40SPEAKER_00: I hope I'm not in panic.
- 7:41SPEAKER_00: I'll probably be in panic, but at least I hope I come to my senses and try to lead them to Christ would be the first thing I'll try to do.
- 7:47SPEAKER_00: But what we must understand is that whatever's out there, if there is, God made it.
- 7:53SPEAKER_00: It does not mean that we are all of a sudden out of control.
- 7:56SPEAKER_00: God is in control of all of it.
- 7:57SPEAKER_00: Whatever it is, he's in control of it.
- 8:00SPEAKER_00: So as Christians, we already believe that God created intelligent life.
- 8:07SPEAKER_00: He created you and I.
- 8:09SPEAKER_00: So who are we again to put God into box and say, well, he couldn't create other intelligent beings?
- 8:14SPEAKER_00: Well, he can.
- 8:15SPEAKER_00: He's God.
- 8:17SPEAKER_00: God can do anything he wants to do, except lie, but he don't want to lie, but he can't lie.
- 8:21SPEAKER_00: The Bible says he cannot lie.
- 8:22SPEAKER_00: He's not a man, he can't lie.
- 8:24SPEAKER_00: God can do anything you wanted to do.
- 8:25SPEAKER_00: If he wanted to create other life forms somewhere, again, who am I to say this?
- 8:28SPEAKER_00: Who am I to say he can't?
- 8:32SPEAKER_00: But how could we believe this if we're Christian?
- 8:36SPEAKER_00: Well, we already believe it.
- 8:38SPEAKER_00: He created you and I.
- 8:40SPEAKER_00: He created everything that we can see, we can touch, everything that's on the horizon.
- 8:44SPEAKER_00: I mean, anything that your eye can see, he created it.
- 8:47SPEAKER_00: If you travel from here to the other side of the world, he still created it, because it's still your horizon.
- 8:53SPEAKER_00: Wherever you're at, anything that you can see, or if somebody goes to the moon, God created it.
- 8:58SPEAKER_00: And anything they can see, God created it.
- 9:01SPEAKER_00: And if we go to Mars one day, God created it, and anything they can see from there, he created it.
- 9:06SPEAKER_00: No matter where we go, God created it.
- 9:09SPEAKER_00: If for some reason there's another solar system out there and a gateway opens up and you have some you know sci-fi movie experience where you can walk through some kind of wormhole and end up in some other uh you know alternate uh uh world out there where you know little blue and green people are walking around.
- 9:26SPEAKER_00: When you get there, ask them if they know God.
- 9:28SPEAKER_00: Because God created it.
- 9:28SPEAKER_00: Because you could what if you could see it, God created it.
- 9:30SPEAKER_00: I know this sounds crazy, and you're probably like, uh this guy has lost his mind.
- 9:34SPEAKER_00: No, we're dealing with contemporary issues, and this is something that's out there right now, and people don't know what to answer.
- 9:39SPEAKER_00: Christians are there, they're kind of a little bit scared to answer.
- 9:43SPEAKER_00: And and I'm not, because truth, truth does not hide from investigation.
- 9:49SPEAKER_00: So with the people out there who are claiming, okay, well, aliens exist, so now what are you gonna do, Christians?
- 9:54SPEAKER_00: Well, I'm gonna keep being a Christian because you know, little blue and green men everybody's talking about, and whatever space pods that people have have seen, if they exist, God made them.
- 10:05SPEAKER_00: So it really only kind of solidifies that, you know, hey, there's something bigger out there than the Big Bang Theory.
- 10:12SPEAKER_00: There's something bigger out there than just evolution.
- 10:14SPEAKER_00: Something had to create all this stuff.
- 10:16SPEAKER_00: I mean, because now those folks got a whole lot of explaining to do on that side.
- 10:20SPEAKER_00: So really for me, it doesn't change a whole lot.
- 10:24SPEAKER_00: And then, furthermore, let me just go a little bit further on this.
- 10:27SPEAKER_00: Do we believe that God created the cherubims and the seraphim?
- 10:31SPEAKER_00: Well, sure he did.
- 10:32SPEAKER_00: Did he create all the heavenly beings?
- 10:34SPEAKER_00: Absolutely he did.
- 10:36SPEAKER_00: Scripture describes intelligent beings who are not members of the human race right now.
- 10:41SPEAKER_00: So why would it, why would it bother me?
- 10:43SPEAKER_00: Hey, maybe, maybe, oh, this is crazy.
- 10:49SPEAKER_00: But let me just, you know, let me just chase this a little rabbit for a second, you know, for those who say, well, a Christian, you you can't believe in alien form, life forms.
- 10:57SPEAKER_00: What is alien?
- 10:58SPEAKER_00: Alien is something that is not from this area.
- 11:00SPEAKER_00: So I already do believe in aliens.
- 11:02SPEAKER_00: We just call them angels.
- 11:05SPEAKER_00: And and I can read in scripture where angels visited.
- 11:10SPEAKER_00: They visited uh in Sodom and Gomorrah.
- 11:15SPEAKER_00: Visited a house there.
- 11:16SPEAKER_00: A couple men.
- 11:18SPEAKER_00: Kind of looked like them, you know, kind of like how the aliens everybody describes, kind of look like us.
- 11:23SPEAKER_00: The ones they're describing now, they said, what'd it look like?
- 11:25SPEAKER_00: I was watching, I watched part of the that uh Joe Rogan podcast.
- 11:28SPEAKER_00: What did it look like?
- 11:28SPEAKER_00: Kind of looked like you and I, just you know, a little bit different color skin or whatever else.
- 11:33SPEAKER_00: So, hey, maybe this was you know some of Michael's uh people he'd sent down to check things out, and you know, hey, they took a wrong turn, got caught in the uh turbulence, and you know, down goes their you know chariot they were riding in, which is we call it a spaceship, but they call it a chariot.
- 11:51SPEAKER_00: And they see this little you know bluish-green man, and that's one of God's heavenly aliens that has come from a place that he doesn't live to a place, you know, from a place he lives to a place he does live, and now he's alien to us.
- 12:02SPEAKER_00: Now I'm I'm just I you know I'm being silly with this stuff, but we already believe in aliens.
- 12:07SPEAKER_00: We we believe in the the UFOs.
- 12:10SPEAKER_00: There's there's there's horses in heaven that are gonna be riding back in Revelation.
- 12:16SPEAKER_00: I mean, those are I mean, I guess those are identified flying horse, I guess.
- 12:21SPEAKER_00: Galloping across the sky.
- 12:23SPEAKER_00: I don't know how God's gonna do it.
- 12:25SPEAKER_00: I know it says he's gonna do it, but I don't know how he's gonna do that.
- 12:28SPEAKER_00: It's it's that's an unidentified phenomenon to me, but it ain't happened yet.
- 12:34SPEAKER_00: So yeah, tongue in cheek, some of this stuff, but it should not scare us.
- 12:40SPEAKER_00: It should not make us start to wonder if, you know, is what I believe real?
- 12:46SPEAKER_00: I mean, could God have created aliens out there somewhere?
- 12:49SPEAKER_00: We already have.
- 12:52SPEAKER_00: He's created you and I.
- 12:53SPEAKER_00: We know that, because we're here, we're living and breathing.
- 12:55SPEAKER_00: We believe God gave breath of life to everybody and everything.
- 13:00SPEAKER_00: But he's got his heavenly, his heavenly angels and his and heavenly bodies, and we can read over in Revelation of other things that are up there that you know, I mean, there there's beasts up there.
- 13:10SPEAKER_00: I mean, there's things with horns and all kinds of things up there.
- 13:13SPEAKER_00: Well, he's created all kinds of things.
- 13:15SPEAKER_00: So of course we do.
- 13:16SPEAKER_00: But now let's get back to a little more little realistic, okay?
- 13:19SPEAKER_00: So I had to kind of settle that first to kind of calm everybody down about God creating these, you know, weird things.
- 13:25SPEAKER_00: I mean, he created me, that's pretty weird.
- 13:28SPEAKER_00: So I mean, hey, an alien might be a little more normal than my than I am.
- 13:32SPEAKER_00: But anyway, let me move on.
- 13:35SPEAKER_00: So let's get back to a little more serious.
- 13:37SPEAKER_00: UFO does not mean alien.
- 13:40SPEAKER_00: So just because there is an unidentified flying object or one of these UAPs, unidentified uh anomalous uh phenomenon does not mean that there is some foreign life living beyond the skies that you know have their own atmosphere and you know they just happen to show up on our doorstep one day.
- 14:04SPEAKER_00: So when somebody says, Well, we got a UAP or UFO here, that doesn't mean, hey, we've got an alien and there's proof of life outside of you know the earth.
- 14:17SPEAKER_00: All that means is there's something that is unidentified, and it could be anything.
- 14:23SPEAKER_00: As we said, our military has got some crazy uh technology that we don't know about.
- 14:32SPEAKER_00: I mean, you you look at it, uh uh um Ukraine, they have changed, listen to this.
- 14:40SPEAKER_00: Ukraine has changed modern warfare forever.
- 14:47SPEAKER_00: They took an Amazon um um drone and made it into a a weapon of destruction.
- 15:00SPEAKER_00: And now they've mass produced their own.
- 15:03SPEAKER_00: And you think America doesn't have those?
- 15:08SPEAKER_00: I guarantee you, America has got them stockpiled somewhere, ready to go.
- 15:14SPEAKER_00: We're not we're not behind in the in the technology, we're not behind in weapons of of war.
- 15:21SPEAKER_00: America's probably leading the way.
- 15:24SPEAKER_00: So let's let's get that straight first.
- 15:28SPEAKER_00: But I mean, so it could be anything, these UFOs.
- 15:31SPEAKER_00: It could be anything.
- 15:32SPEAKER_00: Deuteronomy 2929, I love this verse.
- 15:34SPEAKER_00: It says, The secret things belong unto the Lord our God, but those things which are revealed belong unto us.
- 15:39SPEAKER_00: There's some things we don't know about.
- 15:42SPEAKER_00: And we're not gonna know about it until we do know everything.
- 15:45SPEAKER_00: I told my mom whenever she was uh there in the hospital, she was in the in the you know process of uh of dying there.
- 15:52SPEAKER_00: She was there for about three months before she passed away.
- 15:54SPEAKER_00: And we were talking one night, and I told her, I said, Mom, I'm kind of jealous.
- 15:57SPEAKER_00: And she said, Why are you jealous?
- 16:00SPEAKER_00: I said, because you know, surely you're gonna know everything, and I'm still gonna be down here trying to study and figure it all out.
- 16:05SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna mess it up and I'm gonna make mistakes.
- 16:07SPEAKER_00: I said, but you're gonna be living in perfect, you're gonna be living in perfection.
- 16:10SPEAKER_00: You're gonna know it all, you're gonna know it, everything like the mind of God.
- 16:14SPEAKER_00: Which, you know, she then looked at me and she goes, Oh, hush.
- 16:17SPEAKER_00: But but it's true.
- 16:18SPEAKER_00: There's secret things that we don't know about, and we'll never know about it until he allows us to know about it when we get to heaven.
- 16:24SPEAKER_00: So the mystery is not the evidence of aliens, the mystery is just that there's things out there that we don't know, and we, you know, some things we just ain't gonna know.
- 16:32SPEAKER_00: So, all right, let's say this then.
- 16:35SPEAKER_00: Tomorrow headline comes out and it says uh, you know, they've got some kind of uh neon glowing, you know, body laying there, you know, next to some, you know, hovercraft looking, you know, flying saucer type of thing or whatever it is, you know, that they uh you know, some 1950s, you know, sci-fi movie uh, you know, laying there, and you know, the picture comes out, the interviews and you know, all the videos and all that good stuff.
- 17:01SPEAKER_00: They're doing the autopsy live on TV, and then my phone starts ringing, and everybody who's uh listening to this podcast says, uh hi, preacher.
- 17:08SPEAKER_00: I told you.
- 17:09SPEAKER_00: What do you got to say for yourself now?
- 17:12SPEAKER_00: There is life beyond the human race.
- 17:18SPEAKER_00: What do you got to say for yourself now?
- 17:20SPEAKER_00: Here's what I'll say.
- 17:23SPEAKER_00: I don't know why God created them, I don't know how God created them, but what I do know is that that they were living in sin, I guarantee you God sent them a savior.
- 17:35SPEAKER_00: Because he did that for us.
- 17:39SPEAKER_00: And and and and I and I have to believe that if there's something out there, if they have a soul, if they if it's if that's what it is, if if they're if this if this uh whatever life that's out there, if they have a soul, if they have the breath of God in them, which he created everything, if they have the breath of God in them, then they've got a soul.
- 18:00SPEAKER_00: And that soul is longing to be get back to God, and God will not leave them, He will give them a way of escape, just like He gave you an eye.
- 18:10SPEAKER_00: So again, if somebody calls, writes, sends an email or a text message or shows up at the front door of the church that's coming Sunday morning and says, Aha, see, there is proof that does not make my God any less of a God.
- 18:26SPEAKER_00: In fact, it would make my God so much more interesting.
- 18:31SPEAKER_00: Because now I've got so many more questions of, you know, God, how did you do it?
- 18:36SPEAKER_00: When did it happen?
- 18:38SPEAKER_00: I mean, our conversations in heaven will become so much, so much more interesting than what they're already going to be.
- 18:46SPEAKER_00: I mean, using my human mind right now.
- 18:48SPEAKER_00: I mean, obviously when I get there, I mean, we'll know everything, but using my human mind right now, I mean, there's so many questions I don't want to ask.
- 18:53SPEAKER_00: Like, what were they doing?
- 18:54SPEAKER_00: How did they live?
- 18:54SPEAKER_00: Were they how were they far more advanced than we were?
- 18:58SPEAKER_00: I mean, what was what was it like?
- 18:59SPEAKER_00: You know, how long were they there?
- 19:01SPEAKER_00: I mean, all those questions.
- 19:03SPEAKER_00: So if somebody calls tomorrow or there's an article that comes out tomorrow, hey, God created all things.
- 19:10SPEAKER_00: Heavens declares glory, and the firmament showeth his handiwork.
- 19:15SPEAKER_00: And all that does is I just I would find myself becoming smaller.
- 19:22SPEAKER_00: I used to sing the song As Small as I Am.
- 19:25SPEAKER_00: God cares about me as small as I am.
- 19:27SPEAKER_00: And you think about the universe and and little me here sitting here, and God cares about me, even as small as I am, and then you tell me that there's even more out there, or again, we're talking hypothetically that you know somebody says you know, they prove it, here it is, you know.
- 19:42SPEAKER_00: And then you tell me there's even more out there, and I become even smaller, and then I go back and I read that he sent his son to die for me, even even that, even that much more small, it wouldn't rock my world.
- 19:57SPEAKER_00: It would just make me even even more solidified in the fact that my God can do absolutely anything.
- 20:06SPEAKER_00: And I don't know what other what other response that that you would need.
- 20:10SPEAKER_00: I don't know, I don't know another response that that we could have for that.
- 20:16SPEAKER_00: So now the question that would you know would become after that again, assuming, remember, uh assuming that you know the evidence came out, it was it was made public, then the question I really I really would have, you know, outside of the you know, the you know, the man, where have they been and all that stuff, then my question would be did they fall into sin?
- 20:35SPEAKER_00: Did Adam's sin affect them?
- 20:37SPEAKER_00: Did do they have their own trail of blood?
- 20:41SPEAKER_00: That would be my question.
- 20:43SPEAKER_00: What is their what is their story?
- 20:47SPEAKER_00: How did they get to where they are?
- 20:50SPEAKER_00: Because if God created them, they've got a story that will always keep them connected to God.
- 20:57SPEAKER_00: So the scientists they can keep searching Europa and uh and CLATUS and Mars and exoplanets and everything out there, they can continue searching for them.
- 21:08SPEAKER_00: But as far as I'm concerned, as for me in my house, we're gonna continue to serve the Lord.
- 21:13SPEAKER_00: As for me in my house, we're gonna still think that that God has created everything.
- 21:18SPEAKER_00: And if they found a new creepy crawly bug tomorrow, if they find a new species of reptile, if they find a new new fish in the deepest part of the sea, if they find a new bird in the air, a new frog on a tree, if they find anything brand new out there, it doesn't change my world that God created it.
- 21:36SPEAKER_00: And that includes if there's something living out farther beyond than what I can see, God created it.
- 21:42SPEAKER_00: Now, let me finish out by saying this just so there's no confusion.
- 21:46SPEAKER_00: Do I believe that there are?
- 21:48SPEAKER_00: As of right now, no.
- 21:51SPEAKER_00: I don't believe that there's anything farther out there than what where we're at.
- 21:56SPEAKER_00: But if tomorrow you showed up with proof, then I would say, thank you, Lord, that with all this going on, you still thought about me.
- 22:08SPEAKER_00: What a God wisdom.
- 22:09SPEAKER_00: Thank you for joining us today on Seeking Approval.
- 22:12SPEAKER_00: You know our faith oftentimes grows in quiet places.
- 22:15SPEAKER_00: I hope today's conversation gave you something worth carrying throughout the rest of this day.
- 22:20SPEAKER_00: And join me, Dr.
- 22:21SPEAKER_00: Chris Smelser, again next time as we continue thinking, learning, and walking together.
- 22:27SPEAKER_00: Until then, grace and peace to you from seeking approval at Gilead Baptist Church.