Latest / Simply Bitcoin / We Finally know why JP Morgan was attacking MSTR… | EP 1386
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- 0:01Yeah, we finally know the reason why the world's largest bank has
- 0:06been attacking strategy and Bitcoin this past week.
- 0:10It's a lot more insidious than we thought it was.
- 0:13I would say on the verge of Machiavellian, some 40 chess
- 0:18type of stuff. JP Morgan has partnered up with
- 0:21BlackRock, officially launching a new Bitcoin product that's
- 0:26essentially competing with Michael Saylor's 2025 Bitcoin
- 0:31Playbook. What's really interesting on the
- 0:34is on the same day they also released a new Bitcoin price
- 0:39predicting 240,000 Bitcoin. Did JP Morgan just cancel the
- 0:46big the bear market to really pump their bags?
- 0:51I think that's the question of today, but I kind of want to go
- 0:54down memory lane a little bit. And of course I'm joined here
- 0:57with my legendary Co host, good friends and business partner
- 1:01Optimus Fields, Co founder of simply Bitcoin.
- 1:03And I will say happy Thanksgiving, everybody.
- 1:06We're here drinking some Bailey's equivalent, having a
- 1:10good time. We're working for you guys on
- 1:12Thanksgiving. You can't really blame us.
- 1:14But what I'm really saying is like, holy effing cow.
- 1:19Like we went from Monday thinking that, you know, wow,
- 1:24you know, Jamie Dimon was like doing this with his fingers and
- 1:27he was twirling his mustache. He doesn't even have a mustache,
- 1:29but a figurative mustache. And he was like, OK, I'm going
- 1:33to take down MicroStrategy. That's not at all what he was
- 1:36doing. What he was actually doing was
- 1:39he was fighting strategy while simultaneously coming up with a
- 1:44strategy a, a strategy equivalent product, which tells
- 1:49me a couple of things because you got to look at the buried
- 1:52lead here. The buried lead here is that
- 1:55he's confirming that Michael Saylor's thesis is correct.
- 2:01That's the alpha. That's the effing signal right
- 2:05there, ladies and gentlemen, because he wouldn't be doing
- 2:08this if he didn't think that Strategies Pay Playbook had long
- 2:14term viability #2 he sees strategy as a long term threat.
- 2:21You don't have JP Morgan reacting the way they reacted.
- 2:27And of course we have all the receipts for you guys.
- 2:29You guys know the deal here by now.
- 2:32He wouldn't be reacting this way if he didn't believe that in
- 2:3810-15 years strategies, playbook and thesis was correct.
- 2:44Because if Michael Saylor is correct, he will be the richest
- 2:49man in the world or the second richest man in the world.
- 2:52If if, if Elon's thesis about these autonomous AI powered
- 2:56robots plays out, I'm very, very bullish on.
- 3:00Tesla. Long term, and I know Opti's
- 3:02going to be very, you know, very it it, it is called the optimist
- 3:06robot, right. So I understand why Opti
- 3:08wouldn't like it. But the the, the the point I'm
- 3:11trying to make though is that with sailors current position as
- 3:15market leader with 650,000 Bitcoin and I think the second
- 3:21largest treasury company is like Mara and 21 and they have like
- 3:2550,000 Bitcoin. For them to catch up to
- 3:29strategy. It's just it's, it's, it's a
- 3:32monumental effort, right? So strategy has this like first
- 3:36mover advantage. Now, if you were one of the
- 3:39traditional banks and you're looking at strategy, the way
- 3:43that I would look at strategy is like strategy is basically a
- 3:48non, even though the Federal Reserve is non is is non
- 3:51government entity. But the way that I would look at
- 3:54strategy is I would say, Oh my God, this is like a non
- 3:58sovereign private Bitcoin central bank.
- 4:04That's right. I said it, I said it Opti, I
- 4:07said it. I said I have no shame right
- 4:09now. My my filters are are not
- 4:12filtered. So the point I'm trying to say
- 4:17is like, this is crazy. What just happened this past
- 4:21week. This is wild.
- 4:22This is bananas because like, essentially they try to trip up
- 4:30MicroStrategy, shorting the stock, getting all this FUD.
- 4:34The Bitcoin price went down to 80 K, and then they're like,
- 4:38hey, guys, actually, we actually have a better Bitcoin product.
- 4:43Yeah, that's crazy. So what am I talking about?
- 4:45Let's check out this Yahoo article.
- 4:47JP Morgan's structured notes offer potentially massive
- 4:52returns if Bitcoin surges by 2028.
- 4:56Now that makes no effing sense. Think about that for a second.
- 5:00Right on Monday, they were flooding the market.
- 5:05They're trying to market. They're trying to make the
- 5:07market go down because whether you like it or not,
- 5:12MicroStrategy or strategy, it's not called MicroStrategy more
- 5:14strategy acts as like a proxy for the Bitcoin price in the
- 5:18traditional finance and the financial markets.
- 5:21So if you're shorting the hell out of strategy, the Bitcoin
- 5:26price is going to go along, is going to go down along with it.
- 5:29That's just going to happen. And then simultaneously on
- 5:33September on, on November 25th, they come out and saying, hey
- 5:37guys, actually, if Bitcoin surges by 2028, which is a high
- 5:43likelihood, if we're we're being honest and sincere here, you're
- 5:48actually going to make a shitake ton of money, right?
- 5:53Like that's what's going to happen, right?
- 5:55So let's take a let's take a look at some of this article JP
- 5:58Morgan Chase has filed with regulators for a leveraged
- 6:01product that would allow investors to bet on the future
- 6:05of future price of Bitcoin and potentially earned uncapped
- 6:09returns if the price of BTC falls by late next year, but
- 6:14then soars by 2028. Now think about that for an
- 6:18effing second, all right, think about that for a second.
- 6:22So it kind of makes sense, right?
- 6:24Why they were MicroStrategy while they're fighting Bitcoin
- 6:29It, it works so good that we went down to 80 F&K, right?
- 6:35You know, me and Opti are divided on this.
- 6:37I still think we're going to have a not a crazy bear market.
- 6:41I don't think we're going down 80% Seventy Ki could be 70%.
- 6:46I I could be wrong here. I just don't foresee that
- 6:49happening with the amount of institutional interest.
- 6:51But I still am on the fence of like I've, I've felt this
- 6:54feeling before in terms of my last bear markets 2018 and 2022
- 7:00and I'm feeling that feeling. Opti disagrees.
- 7:03Opti still thinks we still have gas in the tank.
- 7:05We shall see. This is not a a speculative
- 7:09chart. Boy type of show.
- 7:10This is more of like a culture type of vibe show slash
- 7:14entertainment show. But this is nuts.
- 7:17This is crazy. You know, it's so interesting to
- 7:19me because I was talking to a buddy of mine and he's a good
- 7:23buddy of mine, man. And he worked in the traditional
- 7:26markets. And I'm like, dude, they're
- 7:27manipulating the price of Bitcoin.
- 7:28And he's like, bro, that's some weak sauce type of shiitake,
- 7:33Nico. Like, what are you talking
- 7:34about? They're manipulating the type of
- 7:36dude, Wall Street. This is how Wall Street
- 7:39operates, bro. This is not manipulation.
- 7:41This is their normal course of business, right?
- 7:44Like what? Get this manipulation stuff out
- 7:47of they're trying to shake you out of their bags, shake you out
- 7:50of your bags so they can buy your Bitcoin.
- 7:52Like it comes down to that. Like, welcome to Wall Street
- 7:55capitalism, if you even call it that.
- 7:57Welcome to the adults. Table right?
- 7:59Welcome to the adults table. Exactly.
- 8:01So anyways, this is a a Monday filing with the SEC from the top
- 8:04bank shows that the proposed leveraged product in the in the
- 8:09form of a structured note would allow investors to bet big on
- 8:13the on the leading cryptocurrency via the BlackRock
- 8:18ETF. The financial instrument has
- 8:20some quirks, however. According to prospects, if the
- 8:24price of Bitcoin ETF is equal to or above the set price by
- 8:28December 21st, 2026, then JP Morgan will JP Morgan Chase will
- 8:34call the notes, providing a payment of at least $160 per
- 8:38note. Excuse me, but if the price is
- 8:41below that mark in a year's time, then the notes will keep
- 8:45riding until 2028. In that case, if the product is
- 8:49approved by the SEC, of course, investors would be able to earn
- 8:531.5 X returns on whatever gains the cryptocurrency marks makes
- 8:59by the year 2028, potentially clearing the way for massive
- 9:03rewards. JP Morgan called the potential
- 9:06return uncapped, which means if Bitcoin soars to new highs by
- 9:092028, which means the ETF share price would follow suit, then
- 9:13the amplified gains could be sizable indeed.
- 9:16But if Bitcoin price crashes hard by 40% or more than
- 9:20investors would lose a substantial portion of their
- 9:23initial investment, according to the filing.
- 9:25Big risk, big reward or loss quote.
- 9:29Bitcoin has historically exhibited high price volatility
- 9:34relative to more traditional asset classes and has
- 9:37experienced extreme volatility in recent periods and may
- 9:40continue to do so, which may increase the volatility of the
- 9:44fund, the filing notes. That's some sketchy ass type of
- 9:49wording. So again, if this product was
- 9:54released in a vacuum in and of itself, I wouldn't be
- 9:59suspicious. I would.
- 10:00I would be. It's not suspicious as the
- 10:02incorrect word because I think we all have to put our big boy
- 10:05point, a big boy pants on now or big gal pants.
- 10:09You know and understand that this is Wall Street's game now.
- 10:16Bitcoin is Wall Street's game now.
- 10:18Like this isn't what we're used to, which is this retail driven
- 10:23type of market. This is not the situation
- 10:28anymore. So now you have professionals,
- 10:31now you have people the most the the wealthiest, smartest.
- 10:37There's a reason it's called smart money, right?
- 10:40Firms in the world that are behind these banks are behind
- 10:44these products and when they release this type of product,
- 10:50you got to ask yourself, OK, so it's big reward.
- 10:54There's the carrot, but if the if it goes the other way,
- 10:57they're like, you know what, you took the risk, man.
- 11:01Like it's, it's you took the risk that's on you.
- 11:06Like we told you so in the small letters and you guys decided not
- 11:12to like that's not our fault. So this is what's happening.
- 11:16Wall Street is getting into the Bitcoin game.
- 11:19The market is fundamentally changing.
- 11:22I can say for, for a fact, I'm very confident you, you know
- 11:26nothing for a fact, none of this is financial advice, but I'm
- 11:29very confident from like a gut instinctual feeling that I think
- 11:34the Bitcoin markets have fundamentally changed since the
- 11:38introduction of the Bitcoin BlackRock ETF in January of
- 11:422024. I think the markets have
- 11:45changed. I think that it's just a
- 11:47different ball game now. And now you have the
- 11:49professionals, because that's what they are the professionals
- 11:52entering in and they're seeing all these wealthy ass retail
- 11:57people that got filthy rich during the last pumps, right?
- 12:04And I think they're like, I'm going to take this kids candy.
- 12:08I'm going to take, you know, I'm going to take this.
- 12:10This retail kid thinks he knows what he's doing.
- 12:13OK, you bought Bitcoin 300K. Good for you.
- 12:16I'm going to shake you out of your bags, bro.
- 12:18I think that's what's happening. So anyways, moving on to this
- 12:22next piece of source material. Here's Adrian part of Bitcoin
- 12:26for corporations is the timeline of the MSTR hit job is complete
- 12:30and it all makes sense now JP Morgan and Morgan JP Morgan and
- 12:34Morgan Stanley are launching leverage black Bitcoin ETF
- 12:38products. The the connection who is MSCI
- 12:43Morgan Stanley Capital International the play the index
- 12:47threatens to displace their competitors MicroStrategy and
- 12:52Metaplanet, and the banks file products to capture displaced
- 12:56capital into the Black Rock ETF. The updated timeline Jim Kanos
- 13:02announced his long BTC short MSTR trade a bladed attempt to
- 13:07sway market sentiment. July 7th, JP Morgan implements a
- 13:11firm wide margin margin hike on trading MSTR 50% to 95%.
- 13:17August 29th, JP Morgan releases a fact sheet and a preliminary
- 13:22pricing supplement for leveraged products linked to the Black
- 13:25Rock ETF. September 12th, Metaplanet
- 13:28announces a capital raise. MSCI panics realizing more
- 13:33companies are adopting the Sailor playbook at scale.
- 13:37MSCI announces an extension of of its ongoing consultation with
- 13:43the investment community exactly 16 minutes before President
- 13:46Trump's tariff announcement that triggered the global flash
- 13:50crack. This is bonkers.
- 13:53Holy cow. October 14th, 4 days later,
- 13:57Morgan Stanley, the creator and former parent of MSCI, files
- 14:03with the SEC for a contingent income auto callable security
- 14:08link to the BlackRock ETF. November 14th JP Morgan files
- 14:13for its own BlackRock ETF structure.
- 14:16No November 20th, the so-called kill shot on the exact same day.
- 14:21Again, there's no conspiracies, but there's also no
- 14:23coincidences. JP Morgan releases quote the
- 14:26free writing prospects to sell its BlackRock ETF note JP Morgan
- 14:32dredges up the 42 day old MSCI note to scream delisking risk.
- 14:39Present day we still see reports of frozen strategy shares out of
- 14:44JP Morgan and failure to deliver spikes in strategy.
- 14:48They aren't protecting you from risk, they're trying to kill
- 14:51strategy to engineer a creation to their products for Bitcoin
- 14:57leverage exposure. Holy effing cow.
- 15:01The Thanksgiving Day is the wildest 1 and I'm here with my
- 15:06boy drinking Baileys. Happy.
- 15:12Thanksgiving, everybody, but this is some crazy.
- 15:15Remember on the Monday show, you guys are all commenting, you're
- 15:18like yo, Nico's is, is passionate, feels good about
- 15:21this. He's like, he understands it.
- 15:24This is some movie level crazy financial type of warfare
- 15:31shenanigans. And I'll tell you what, if I
- 15:34were to pick between team Jamie Dimon and Team Sailor, I'm on
- 15:40Team Sailor every day of the effing week.
- 15:45Now is that a supplement to spot Bitcoin in self custody?
- 15:48No, I think that's the revolution for individuals.
- 15:52But whether you like it or not, as Jeff Booth says, the thing
- 15:56about Bitcoin is that you're going to have to be OK with even
- 16:00your worst enemy using Bitcoin. Now, that's not to say that JP
- 16:04Morgan or Sailor are enemies, but that's to say that there is
- 16:10an inevitability of Wall Street wanting to benefit from NGU
- 16:16technology. Now, what's really crazy here is
- 16:20that Wall Street right now, specifically the largest bank in
- 16:24the world and one of the largest banks in the world is like, you
- 16:27know what, I really like what sailors doing.
- 16:29We actually want to benefit from that the most, which is, and
- 16:33then they're willing to FUD and crash the Bitcoin price.
- 16:37And according to this timeline, they're willing to use their
- 16:44connections at the White House to get as many people into their
- 16:49product versus the strategy product, which is just wild.
- 16:56Here's Mark Moss and he says looks like JP Morgan likes
- 16:59sailors model give investors A safer, less volatile return on
- 17:04Bitcoin, capping the upside, even the downside while they
- 17:08capture the bulk of the move. Here's Adam Livingston.
- 17:13JP Morgan just admitted Bitcoin won.
- 17:16JP Morgan just filed structured notes tied to Blackrock's
- 17:20Bitcoin ETF with leverage, upside, conditional early call,
- 17:25and multi year convexivity exposure.
- 17:29To decode this, you need to understand what banks actually
- 17:32use these notes for. This is JP Morgan selling
- 17:35convexivity on Bitcoin into institutional demand while
- 17:39hedging the other side internally?
- 17:41This product shows JP Morgan believes Bitcoin is too big to
- 17:46ignore and too profitable not to financialize, which I said in
- 17:52the very beginning. Here's TFTC and they say JP
- 17:56Morgan goes from attacking bitcoiners to declaring Bitcoin
- 18:01a macro asset class in the span of a week, which is what we told
- 18:06you guys on Monday. On Monday.
- 18:09Nico, Nico, I think it's totally worth the read.
- 18:10Read, read this paragraph 'cause I mean, I'm, I'm gonna take a
- 18:14victory lap on this one, but read the paragraph and then
- 18:16we'll talk about it. Excuse me?
- 18:20Happy Thanksgiving everyone. Crypto's emerging as a tradable
- 18:24macro asset class. Crypto is moving away from
- 18:27resembling A venture capital style ecosystem to a typical
- 18:32tradable macro asset class supported by institutional
- 18:35liquidity rather than retail speculation.
- 18:38In the early stages, crypto projects received large private
- 18:42rounds of funding and fewer structure to trade in in a
- 18:46liquid scalable way. With retail investors buying
- 18:49late after valuations had already risen sharply, retail
- 18:54investors participation has fallen and the space now depends
- 18:58depends more on institutional investors to stabilize flows to
- 19:02reduce volatility and anchor long term prices.
- 19:06Cryptocurrency still present investing opportunities as they
- 19:09are relatively liquid yet structurally inefficient and
- 19:12liquidity remains uneven resulting in large price
- 19:16fluctuations. Cryptocurrency prices are now
- 19:19more influenced by broader economic trends rather than
- 19:22cryptos. Predictable for your having
- 19:24cycle, the process where the rate of new supply of Bitcoin is
- 19:28cut in half and followed by a bull market rally.
- 19:32One speaker noted that it could potentially reach $240,000 over
- 19:39the long run, thus indicating it is a multi year growth play.
- 19:44That's right. You have JP Morgan basically
- 19:47admitting if you read between the lines that, hey, I think the
- 19:51four year cycle is over. It's over, dude.
- 19:54It's over. But this has been an incredible
- 19:58week. Holy cow, all the things that
- 20:00have happened on Monday, we thought, Oh my God, Jamie Dimon,
- 20:06he's pulling out his knives. He's like he's threatened by the
- 20:09price of Bitcoin. No, we underestimated him.
- 20:14What were we thinking? What were we thinking?
- 20:19This guy's a capitalist. He doesn't take, he doesn't take
- 20:22any of this personally. He's not ideological for him.
- 20:25He's thinking, how do I get rich with this thing?
- 20:29And strategy could potentially be a roadblock for my bank or
- 20:37the bank that I represent to get wealthy off of this.
- 20:41So how do I make sure that I FUD the shiitake out of strategy to
- 20:48get people to buy the JP Morgan product now to add Simon Dixon's
- 20:56take on all this to like kind of wrap it up and put a nice bow on
- 20:59top. I would say that fundamentally
- 21:10the way that Simon Dixon says, I forget what his exact term was,
- 21:14but it's essentially like these are financial, industrial.
- 21:17It's a financial industrial complex.
- 21:19No, no, financial industrial complex and.
- 21:21Financial weapons of mass. Exactly so like.
- 21:24Financial destruction. Simon Dixon calls it Weapons of
- 21:29weapons of like. Financial destruction.
- 21:31Is weapon. Basically this all represents.
- 21:34The proof of weapons. Network, the proof of weapons
- 21:36network and then this represents the financial industrial
- 21:39complex, right, which is inherently anti Bitcoin by the
- 21:42way. But The thing is we would not be
- 21:47doing our jobs if we weren't covering this because if you are
- 21:53to get anything from this and our audience is not
- 21:56sophisticated institutional investors.
- 22:00I'm I'm pretty sure that there's a percentage of you guys that
- 22:03are that watch us, you know, for that, but our audience is
- 22:07bitcoiners. And what I would take, what I
- 22:11would want you guys to take from this episode is what Adam
- 22:16Livingston said and the conclusion that I came up with
- 22:20when I was reading this. This is JP Morgan.
- 22:24This more importantly, this is Jamie Dimon admitting that
- 22:31Bitcoin is here to stay. This is Jamie Dimon admitting
- 22:38that number go up. Technology is too irresistible
- 22:45to ignore. This is Jamie Dimon admitting
- 22:50that Bitcoin has won. Now what I'll tell you guys is
- 22:57you still have a job to do because fundamentally, this
- 23:01isn't, this is a revolution of individuals.
- 23:05This is a revolution of millions upon millions of people all
- 23:10around the world, Everyone who's tuning in right now to the most
- 23:13watched Bitcoin Daily Show on planet Earth.
- 23:18This is a revolution of you guys.
- 23:20This is a revolution of you guys taking sovereignty back, putting
- 23:25Bitcoin into self custody. This is what it is fundamentally
- 23:30about. And don't let any of these Wall
- 23:33Street financial shenanigans distract you from the mission at
- 23:38hand. And the mission at hand is to
- 23:40end the tyranny of central banking.
- 23:45And how do you do that? You cannot do that politically.
- 23:49It's politically unfeasible to do it.
- 23:54How do you do that? You opt out.
- 23:57You opt out by putting Bitcoin into self custody.
- 24:00That's how you do it. That's how you do it.
- 24:02You voting, traditional voting matters.
- 24:05It totally does. Not trying to take anything away
- 24:07from that, but vote with your wallet and you vote with your
- 24:11wallet by taking your energy, your time, your work, your
- 24:15effort and opting out of the system and opting into self
- 24:20custody. So this is fun to cover.
- 24:22This is great. This is like, you know, this is
- 24:25like the equivalent of like gossiping in terms of like, Oh
- 24:30my God, look at what all these financial institutions are
- 24:33doing. But the signal here is holy cow,
- 24:37dude, They they like Bitcoin. They they, they not only like
- 24:42Bitcoin, they want to benefit the F out of Bitcoin.
- 24:47They want Bitcoin for themselves.
- 24:48They want all the benefits from NGU for themselves.
- 24:53That's what's happening right now.
- 24:54Wall Street right now is in a civil war right now Wall Street
- 24:59is battling it out to come up with the best financial product
- 25:04to offer their institutional investors so that they can, you
- 25:08know, sell them a reason as to why you know you should buy
- 25:12their product instead of just buying spot Bitcoin.
- 25:14Whatever people are going to do that.
- 25:16You know, not everyone's comfortable buying a bit key
- 25:20even though it makes self custody incredibly easy.
- 25:22Go to bit key dot world today. Use promo code simply.
- 25:26Not everyone's comfortable doing that for some reason, but you
- 25:30know. This is crazy.
- 25:31Dude this is wild. Remember on Monday?
- 25:33We're like, dude, like he's attacking and he doesn't get it.
- 25:36Dude, we underestimated Jamie Dimon.
- 25:40Jamie Dimon. I don't know if I did.
- 25:42I think you. Are maybe I did, but Jamie Dimon
- 25:45is a is a 100% capitalist. He does not give a flying F
- 25:55about ideology, about the system.
- 25:58He cares about how do I make the most amount of money for my
- 26:03bank? And if Bitcoin is the mechanism
- 26:07of which I can do that with, so be it.
- 26:10That's my bit. Happy Thanksgiving everybody.
- 26:13Cheers to my brothers in arm, my brother in arms, Optimus Fields.
- 26:22But this Irish cream and milk's giving me cottonmouth for sure.
- 26:25But anyways, I want to hit on a few things.
- 26:28One, I've been telling you guys this for a while.
- 26:31I, I've been calling it the billionaire flood playbook.
- 26:33You know, you can call it just how Wall Street acts, but it
- 26:36always happens the same way. It's the classic Wall Street
- 26:39playbook, especially when they get into a new asset.
- 26:42It's very simple. Once you spot it, you can't not
- 26:46see it. And I've been seeing this play
- 26:48out all year long. Again, it's always goes into,
- 26:52you know, don't listen to what they say, watch what they do.
- 26:55And it's it goes like this very simple.
- 26:57You know, you spread FUD, you crash the price of the asset,
- 27:00you scare all the plebs away, you scare all of the retail
- 27:03away. And then you scoop up the dip
- 27:05with new products. And if we didn't have this JP
- 27:09Morgan story of essentially, you know, attacking strategy or, you
- 27:14know, pulling up a very old press release to kind of take
- 27:17their price when they were being weak.
- 27:19And then literally at the very bottom of that attack, they
- 27:21launch a new product and and you weren't aware of how this was
- 27:24going. Yeah, Sailor knew exactly what's
- 27:26going on. It's it's very obvious once you
- 27:29understand what's going on. Again, I've been calling it the
- 27:32the Bitcoin billionaire FUD playbook.
- 27:34You can call it just classic Wall Street, you know,
- 27:37mechanisms, but it always plays out the same way.
- 27:41They FUD it. They try to crash the price.
- 27:43They try try to get people to basically sell their holdings
- 27:47and then they launch a new product.
- 27:49If we didn't have this new story come out as it did, then I would
- 27:53just be speculating on it for a while.
- 27:55And you guys would be like, yeah, Opti literally has a 42 IQ
- 27:58because he he's just speculating, guys.
- 28:00We have literally the proof that this is what they're doing.
- 28:03Hence why I keep telling you, and hence why Nico and I are
- 28:06arguing over what the price might be.
- 28:08Nico's still like, it's a bear market, bro.
- 28:10And I'm like, yeah, it looks like a bear market, but I think
- 28:13what is going on is we are fundamentally underestimating
- 28:18the new investor here. And it's the institutions and
- 28:20they understand what this thing is.
- 28:22Remember, this is the only year that Bitcoin has and
- 28:25outperformed the S&P 500 on a quote UN quote bull market.
- 28:28Bitcoin, you know, underperform S&P 500 underperformed gold.
- 28:33Usually Bitcoin has outsized gains.
- 28:35What Wall Street is used to is like 15, maybe 20% tops a year.
- 28:40Like if you get 20%, if you get 25% gains a year, you're killing
- 28:44it on Wall Street. Here's all of us 42 IQ
- 28:47bitcoiners just stacking, huddling, don't care about
- 28:49anything, just trying to accumulate and you know, making
- 28:52561020 plus games. You think they're coming into
- 28:57the space after it's their first year that they're able to get
- 29:01into it and not trying to get a good position and also not
- 29:05trying to get these outside outsize games.
- 29:07Like it just made no sense to me.
- 29:09Hence why I'm like, look, I I'm looking at the charts, you know,
- 29:13you guys know me. I'm leaning into being a chart
- 29:15boy. I'm like, all right, you know,
- 29:16let me see if my friends have any, any signal in the charts
- 29:19right now. And if you're looking at the
- 29:22charts, it does look like we're entering a bear market.
- 29:24It does look like we might drop. I know I was trolling Nico.
- 29:27He said like 30 K Bitcoin. I'm like, bro, you lost the
- 29:30plot. Like it's not going 80% down.
- 29:33I've been thinking it's probably going to go sideways.
- 29:36And this is before I had the data.
- 29:37I'm like, it's probably like 80 ish is probably where, you know,
- 29:41the bottom of this dip's going to be.
- 29:42It's going to go sideways and then it's going to start its new
- 29:45leg up. And then as this week progressed
- 29:47more, we got more information, more data that, you know, the
- 29:51whales are scooping up right now.
- 29:53Institutions are buying this dip up.
- 29:55And as much as I don't agree, or rather don't listen to what JP
- 30:00Morgan says, there is a kind of portion of what JP Morgan says
- 30:05where it's not just trying to misdirect the retail plebs.
- 30:09They are actually trying to give signal to their wealthier
- 30:12clients. So it's one of those things
- 30:14where, like, they tell you what's going to happen and then
- 30:17they fight it. And you kind of have to know
- 30:18what's the signal and what the noise is.
- 30:21And when I saw that screen grab, you know, who knows, 240K next
- 30:25year, everyone's kind of thinking the four year cycle's
- 30:27over. But the take away I got from
- 30:29that screen, that screenshot about where they said 240K is,
- 30:33institutions are driving this market now as we've been
- 30:36covering all year long. Retail is dead.
- 30:39Retail is nowhere to be fine. There's no retail interest.
- 30:42The Google search trends are wrecked.
- 30:44People probably have heard about Bitcoin.
- 30:47They're just not coming back into Bitcoin yet.
- 30:49Also, inflation's getting getting crazy.
- 30:51The economy's feeling very weak. People are feeling very poor, so
- 30:55they don't have extra funds to go into risk assets.
- 30:59Therefore retail's been nowhere to be found.
- 31:02The only people in Bitcoin all year long are Bitcoiners.
- 31:06It's Bitcoiners and institutions.
- 31:08So that's been my kind of theory, my my thesis all year
- 31:12long, even though I've, you know, very clearly been wrong
- 31:16about where I thought the price was going, at least in the first
- 31:18half. Who knows?
- 31:19Hey, we got we got December to still.
- 31:21Prove me right. But I was just watching
- 31:25everything I've been watching and I'm like, yo, OK, well,
- 31:27there's a new investor, there's a new buyer.
- 31:32They're fundamentally looking at this thing different than
- 31:35everyone else is. They have longer term
- 31:37perspectives. They have, you know, very, very
- 31:41covert ways to get into the market, make sure they're not
- 31:44moving the market and they want to acquire this thing.
- 31:47How do they get this from you? Is they scare you out of your
- 31:50bags? And I do have some data to
- 31:53basically show retail has been getting cooked right now.
- 31:56Retail is selling while institutions are buying.
- 32:00This is why I keep telling you, like, don't listen to what the
- 32:03institutions are saying. Do what they do.
- 32:07JP Morgan has been fighting Bitcoin for years.
- 32:11Then what did they do? They're the authorized
- 32:13participant of the I Bit BlackRock ETF.
- 32:16They fudge strategy, and then what do they do?
- 32:19They basically drop a MicroStrategy copycat Bitcoin
- 32:23note like the same week. If you're not buying and
- 32:28accumulating right now, you are totally going to get left in the
- 32:31dust if you are selling thinking that the four year cycle is
- 32:34going to play out. I could be wrong that the four
- 32:36year cycle is going to be still intact.
- 32:39But from my perspective, I think the more Max Payne scenario is
- 32:45you think the four year cycle is playing out and then we RIP in
- 32:472026 and you're trying to trade the tops and trade the bottoms.
- 32:51To me, that's too big of a risk. I'd much rather hold my coin
- 32:55down 5060%, be able to, you know, purchase more, DCA more.
- 32:59We have a good business. It's coming in.
- 33:01I have cash flow coming in. Yeah, it's going to be brutal.
- 33:04The last bear market, you know, almost absolutely just mentally
- 33:07killed me. But I think the Max Payne
- 33:10scenario right now is everyone thinking the old models are
- 33:13still working and then it absolutely rips in 2026 and it's
- 33:17the institutions, it's Wall Street that get rich and all of
- 33:20the true believers are waiting for a pullback.
- 33:22To me, that is Max Payne. As I've been telling you guys, I
- 33:26think the biggest attack going on in Bitcoin right now is Wall
- 33:29Street wants your coin. Wall Street wants to get into
- 33:33this. They want to insert themselves
- 33:34as middle man. The real war is Wall Street
- 33:38versus your Bitcoin in self custody.
- 33:40This is what this story is telling us right now.
- 33:44They don't like Saylor. I mean, you could argue that
- 33:47they're still on the same team. They're both Wall Street, but
- 33:49they're still competition within this.
- 33:51Even though JP Morgan and Morgan Stanley are both huge banks, I
- 33:56know for a fact that Jamie Dimon wants to be the number one bank.
- 33:59It's like the same thing. Like, yeah, you're billionaire.
- 34:02It's human nature. Exactly.
- 34:04So they're looking at Sailor's stack right now and they're
- 34:07like, OK, how can we get that big of a stack?
- 34:10I don't think they can, cause Sailor just absolutely went
- 34:15bananas the last couple of years, four years or whatever it
- 34:17was five years. So they're trying to figure out
- 34:20ways that they can acquire a huge stack.
- 34:22They want to essentially take Sailor out, even though they're
- 34:25all basically playing the same game.
- 34:27So play the same game, just keep accumulating.
- 34:29Yes, maybe we go down, maybe we don't.
- 34:33The only safe move is to acquire more Bitcoin and take it in self
- 34:37custody because as we're all watching right now, they are
- 34:40trying to position themselves as a as Bitcoin intermediaries.
- 34:47This is what's happening. This is the game plan right now.
- 34:50They want to acquire Bitcoin. The only way they can really get
- 34:54Bitcoin is to force you to sell your Bitcoin.
- 34:57So as we always say, stay humble, stack sacked, but most
- 35:00importantly, stay solvent. That's the most important
- 35:04aspect. Of this, I think, is the most
- 35:06important. Cheers my friend.
- 35:08Happy Thanksgiving everybody. I didn't think that this type of
- 35:12story would break on Thanksgiving, but this is crazy.
- 35:15This is like some Wall Street type warfare.
- 35:18We have insights into it. I think Opti's commentary was on
- 35:23effing point, but I would say is like guys, this is confirmation.
- 35:28On Monday, we thought that the system that the biggest bank or
- 35:33one of the biggest private or one of the biggest banks in the
- 35:36world was still fighting Bitcoin.
- 35:38We just got confirmation that not only are they not fighting
- 35:42Bitcoin, they're actually trying to benefit from number go up
- 35:45technology. Right.
- 35:47Bitcoin's for enemies, right? So that's effing crazy.
- 35:53Close up, close up on the on the drink.
- 35:55That's effing. Crazy.
- 35:57So anyway, bro, it's Thanksgiving.
- 35:59We got to, we got to take it easy a little bit.
- 36:01Yeah, guys, this is this is all Nico's fault.
- 36:03I was sitting here like getting ready for the show.
- 36:05He's like Thanksgiving, let's pull out the Irish cream and get
- 36:10this show a little lit. I'm like, bro, I got to eat
- 36:12breakfast. We got.
- 36:13The family coming in like 2 hours bro like.
- 36:16You know, and we're still here for you guys.
- 36:19Giving you guys the signal, giving you guys the sauce, so.
- 36:22And then so at dinner tonight, guys, I think the big.
- 36:25Bazooka for you guys is like. OK, you know, uncle, grandma,
- 36:29mother, brother, you've been telling me to not buy Bitcoin to
- 36:34sell my stack. Well, what do you think about JP
- 36:37Morgan, the biggest bank in the world, doing whatever they can
- 36:39to acquire this Bitcoin from me? I think that's when you do, you
- 36:43know, flip a couple of. Birds and be like I'm buying
- 36:46more Bitcoin. Smash, buy, smash that Bitcoin.
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- 41:37discount. Why are you laughing?
- 41:38The chat Nico's feeling, the Baileys, and then you're doing
- 41:41like ASMR. I am feeling the Baileys.
- 41:44I'm feeling good. I'm, I'm, I'm grateful for you
- 41:47guys. Cheers.
- 41:51Yeah, someone kind of mob. So this is a fantastic show.
- 41:57I don't know what you're talking about.
- 41:59I I'm just worried it's gonna, it's gonna spiral very quickly.
- 42:02This is not spiral dude, we're professionals.
- 42:04I don't. Know what you're talking about?
- 42:06So OK, I do want to give you guys the I do want to talk about
- 42:13this. We talked about this yesterday.
- 42:14This is actually a very serious topic, so I do want to focus on
- 42:19this. The EU says chat control is
- 42:23voluntary. We were talking about chat
- 42:25control yesterday, so the breaking news is that chat
- 42:31control's back, but slightly changed, apparently.
- 42:35From my understanding, it was quietly passed in the EU, needs
- 42:44to be in the EU Council, needs to be discussed in the EU
- 42:47Parliament, slightly changed. No back door for encryption, I
- 42:51think that's good. No for scanning, but I think
- 42:56where they're getting everyone is the age verification.
- 42:59So I again, I think that this is like setting a very dangerous
- 43:04precedent. They're saying that EU says chat
- 43:07control is voluntary. If you don't scan your user
- 43:10messages, your app will be labeled as high risk.
- 43:13So that's not voluntary. Ladies and gentlemen, that the,
- 43:16the, the exact political term for that is soft power.
- 43:21So what is the definition of soft power?
- 43:22Soft power is like how the sold the, the mechanism of how the
- 43:28social credit system works. So in China, it's not like
- 43:33they're coercing you into certain behaviors, but they're
- 43:36incentivizing you into certain behaviors.
- 43:38So if you speak I'll of the government, you get punished,
- 43:42right? In terms of the for the social
- 43:44credit system, if you create an app that doesn't have chat
- 43:49control or better said, if you create an app that doesn't
- 43:54allow. The EU bureaucracy to look.
- 43:58At everything it's considered high risk.
- 44:01That is a form of soft power, right?
- 44:04Because on the App Store or in the Google App Store the the
- 44:07equivalent. Of that, imagine you see an app.
- 44:10That says high risk, like and if you're not in the know, if
- 44:13you're not watching simply Bitcoin or if you're just ignore
- 44:15me and you just, you know, like to get about your life and you
- 44:19know, you're not in the know. You just you just not in the
- 44:21know. You just wanna get about your
- 44:23day. And you see an app that says
- 44:24high risk, What are you gonna do?
- 44:27You're probably gonna look at that app and you're like, that's
- 44:29a high risk app. I don't know about that, right.
- 44:33So of course, like this is, this is called soft power, and that's
- 44:37exactly what they're trying to implement here.
- 44:40Last thing I'll say. Is, you know, and again, this is
- 44:43all interconnected. It's not a coincidence that the
- 44:46digital ID, the central bank, digital currency and chat
- 44:53control are all being implemented in the European
- 44:56Union at around the same time. That's not a coincidence.
- 45:01What you're seeing is an attempt to coerce people into a closed
- 45:07system, a system of which they can control.
- 45:10I think it put the fear of God in them that you saw the rise of
- 45:15independent media, you saw the rise of non sovereign
- 45:19alternative money like Bitcoin. And I think you what you're
- 45:22seeing is you're seeing the unelected bureaucracy, what we
- 45:27call here in the United States, the administrative state react
- 45:30to that like white blood cells. This is the reaction.
- 45:34The reaction isn't let's pivot and like, actually let's look
- 45:37within ourselves and say, you know what?
- 45:41We actually need. To improve.
- 45:42No, no, no, no. They're doubling down.
- 45:45They're basically saying we don't need to justify why you're
- 45:49paying these taxes. We don't need to justify why we
- 45:52have this unaccountable power. We don't need to justify why
- 45:57politicians don't have to go through quote, UN quote.
- 46:01Chat control. But the populace has to go
- 46:04through chat control. We don't need to justify any of
- 46:07that. What we're going to do instead
- 46:09is we're going to Co reverse everyone into using these
- 46:13systems so that we can control you.
- 46:16I'll tell you guys something. This would be something that the
- 46:20Soviet Union would foam at the mouth on.
- 46:23They would they would they would be the the fact that they can
- 46:28even think that they can get away with this.
- 46:32This would be any tyrant's like dream of doing like the fact
- 46:39that this is even discussed or even like seen as feasible in
- 46:45these so-called liberal democracies.
- 46:48We played you guys a clip of the head of the EUI forget the exact
- 46:52of of Ursula yesterday, right? And she was talking about to
- 46:57protect democracy, we need a democracy shield.
- 47:01And what that democracy shield means, ladies and gentlemen, is
- 47:04we actually need censorship and chat control, right?
- 47:08Which is effing crazy, right? Because the whole point of
- 47:11democracy is you get people to disagree and discuss and have
- 47:15discussions with these types of systems.
- 47:19That's incentivizing the exact opposite, because who is to
- 47:23stop? The party in power?
- 47:25This is why the First Amendment is structured how it is in the
- 47:28United States. It's structured the way that it
- 47:32is in the United States because the founding Fathers had the
- 47:35wisdom to understand that if the government had the power to
- 47:40censor speech in order for them to maintain power, they will
- 47:46inevitably pass a law in order to do that.
- 47:49Which is why the First Amendment is the the First Amendment and
- 47:53not the second or the 3rd or the 4th or the 5th.
- 47:58The Constitution in the United States is structured not to
- 48:04protect the government from the people.
- 48:06It's structured to protect the people from the government,
- 48:09which is why the First Amendment is freedom of speech and the
- 48:12Second Amendment is the right to effing bear arms, right?
- 48:17It's literally saying like, yo, like we know what happens when
- 48:21there's too much centralization of power, right?
- 48:24Unfortunately, our friends across the pond don't have those
- 48:29type of constitutional rights and protections and it's going
- 48:34down this dystopian path. I don't know how else to say it.
- 48:37Like it's very sad. I love Europe, I was in Europe
- 48:41all summer. Madrid is fantastic, great food.
- 48:45I got. I got.
- 48:46I got. Kind of tired of the Harmon
- 48:47Serrano after a while, like after two or three weeks.
- 48:50But Despite that, it was great. I saw Madrid game, went to
- 48:54Latvia, went to Finland, spent some time in Italy, got lost in
- 48:57Italy. That was pretty cool, but it was
- 49:00nice. So I love Europe.
- 49:03It's dope. But like when you see this type
- 49:05of stuff, you're asking yourself like, how is this improving the
- 49:09lives of everyday people? Because I don't see how it's
- 49:12improving the lives of everyday people.
- 49:14I see how it's like solidifying control.
- 49:19It's solidifying power in the, in the, in the hands of
- 49:24politicians, I and, and at the end of the day, you know, and
- 49:28perhaps this is the way that you look at economics and such and
- 49:31you can have a discussion about. This but like.
- 49:37Government isn't productive. It doesn't make anything right
- 49:41like that little like water water bottle thing that they
- 49:45have in Europe. There's a little tab where you
- 49:47can't completely take off the cap.
- 49:50And then like, meanwhile, on the other side of the pond, Elon is
- 49:54literally landing effing rockets and catching them with giant
- 49:57effing arms. Like you're it's, it's such a
- 50:02good meme because it compares and contrasts.
- 50:04Like it's like you have entrepreneurs building and then
- 50:08you have regulations, right? Like it, it's like, what do you
- 50:12want? You want one or do you want the
- 50:14other? Like, you know, and I get
- 50:17there's pros and cons to two right to the both of them, but
- 50:21like, I would rather live in a society where entrepreneurs are
- 50:26allowed to build things. They aren't drowned in
- 50:29regulations because entrepreneurs are fundamentally
- 50:34the ones that are driving to make society better.
- 50:37They're the ones taking the risk.
- 50:39They're the ones actually innovating.
- 50:41They're the ones actually building.
- 50:45Governments don't build anything.
- 50:47And better said, governments don't build anything
- 50:50efficiently. They do not do that.
- 50:52They're very, by definition, they're very inefficient because
- 50:56there's no price signals to government.
- 50:58If a government makes a mistake, no one gets fired.
- 51:02They don't go out of business. There is no price signals
- 51:05whatsoever. If an entrepreneur, if we make a
- 51:09mistake here at Simply Bitcoin, if we make a mistake, we've made
- 51:12catastrophic mistakes. But if we've make mistakes
- 51:14before, we will go out of business.
- 51:18If a government makes a mistake, they don't go out of business.
- 51:22Not only do they not go out of business, they stay in power and
- 51:26they have a money printer behind them.
- 51:28There is no price signal that's telling them you are doing
- 51:31something wrong because the price signals are the incentives
- 51:36for people to make adjustments. So that's my criticism of this,
- 51:40of this chat control stuff. And last thing I'll leave it on
- 51:43is this, this post by Simon Dixon, which says, tell me
- 51:50another way to own your money without a bank, spend it
- 51:53globally without government permission and have a fixed
- 51:56supply that can't be changed by a central bank.
- 51:58You won't find one. I've spent 25 years searching,
- 52:01building and investing and I only found Bitcoin.
- 52:05And he's replying to someone posting his posting his tweet.
- 52:10It says go further. Bitcoin is all bad everywhere.
- 52:13Even if someone wants a trustless protocol, some form of
- 52:16automated banking, we can do much better.
- 52:19And I think Simon Dixon's response to that is very
- 52:22powerful. And again, we believe that
- 52:23fundamentally here at Simply Bitcoin.
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- 53:46soapbox. Yeah, yeah.
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- 54:08Going back to the, what is it? Chat control, EU chat control,
- 54:12That's what they call. It OK so first of all I will
- 54:15caveat this where I am very proud of my European ancestry,
- 54:20my mother is very proud of my European ancestry, but I'm very
- 54:25happy to be an American cause Europe is absolutely cooked.
- 54:29It's insane to me that the politicians out there can even
- 54:33get out publicly and say this stuff without people, you know,
- 54:38So just going absolutely bananas, like it to me is
- 54:41insane. But I did so I did randomly off
- 54:44topic. I watched this like Reel last
- 54:45night on Instagram and it was like some European and she's
- 54:48like, Americans are such strange creatures.
- 54:50Like they, they are a breed of the of their own.
- 54:53And I'm like, yeah, that's literally what we are.
- 54:56When you look at what's happening in Europe, you're
- 54:57like, how does anyone with two brain cells actually maybe 3 be
- 55:04nice. I I'm trying, I'm trying.
- 55:05How does anyone with the same amount of brain cells that I
- 55:08have critical thinking, critical critical thinking?
- 55:10Well, the, the question is, it seems like they've lost critical
- 55:13thinking. It seems like they're just hook,
- 55:15line and sinker. But but.
- 55:16I, I I would. Push back against that and I
- 55:18would say Opti like it is it like I gotta get the Baileys out
- 55:22of this? Hold on.
- 55:26Get it out of the shop by Gregory.
- 55:27I would push against that and I would say like, you know, if you
- 55:31look at take a look at this news, bro, they they apparently
- 55:34passed this according to the source.
- 55:36Yeah, yeah, and the dead of night.
- 55:38Behind closed doors. Which really reminds me of, you
- 55:41know, the creature of Jekyll Island.
- 55:42It's literally the same place like.
- 55:44Again, like you can't really criticize their critical
- 55:47thinking. Skills when they don't have.
- 55:49Yeah, OK, true, true. Yeah, I agree.
- 55:52OK, I agree with that. Now the second point.
- 55:56Is really probably the most nefarious one, especially for us
- 56:00in America, for anyone in the first world, obviously any, I
- 56:05would say globally, but Europe is historically kind of a test
- 56:10bed for all of these really bad globalist kind of policies,
- 56:14projects. And so you got to think of the
- 56:182nd order effects. If they're trying to push this
- 56:20through in Europe, then you better expect that they will
- 56:23most likely push this in a country near you or rather in
- 56:26your own country very soon. If this does succeed, if they
- 56:30are able to essentially backdoor this policy, then you're going
- 56:35to see the propaganda get turned into OverDrive and they're going
- 56:37to be like, look, look what Europe's done.
- 56:40The US needs it, every other country in the world needs it
- 56:43'cause they're so progressive and they're so ahead of the
- 56:45curve. And I think that's what bitcoins
- 56:49are fighting like let's, you know, Jack Dorsey, for instance,
- 56:51with the new bit chat app, you know, using I, I forget what it
- 56:55is like FM, you know, signals so that you can.
- 56:58Was it FMI? Think it's Wi-Fi and Bluetooth.
- 57:02Wi-Fi and Bluetooth, OK. And basically or Noster, you
- 57:06know, just like protocols that they can't shut down, Bitcoiners
- 57:11are actively not only worried about this type of stuff, but
- 57:16they're building products, building tools so that even if
- 57:20you are in these countries, you still will be able to
- 57:22communicate. So, you know, it is always
- 57:25darkest before the light, I guess.
- 57:27But it is a very scary trajectory that we find
- 57:32ourselves globally right now. And This is why I'm a Bitcoiner.
- 57:35This is why I believe in Bitcoin.
- 57:36This is why, oh This is why I believe that.
- 57:40Dude, are we drinking? This whole bottle this.
- 57:45Is why I believe that Bitcoin will win.
- 57:49This is why I believe incentives will win.
- 57:52It's gonna take a while because as we see, there's still a, a
- 57:55huge lack of education. There's still a lot of people
- 57:58that don't under that bit don't even understand the problem,
- 58:01that don't understand what's happening in real time around
- 58:03them. And it, it's just absolutely
- 58:06terrifying. And of course, I, I would argue
- 58:08most of this is by design. I didn't learn any of this in
- 58:11school. This is all stuff I've learned
- 58:13outside of school. And you do have to push back
- 58:17against people calling you all kinds of names and saying you're
- 58:20wrong like it. It's not that easy to get here,
- 58:23and I understand why some people kind of shy away from it, but
- 58:27this is, again, like, I think this is the most important thing
- 58:30going on in the world, Not only the freedom of money and
- 58:33transacting, but the Freedom of Information.
- 58:35And they do go hand in hand. I think we could all kind of
- 58:38agree that the Internet probably hasn't really lived up to its
- 58:41initial kind of thought of what it wanted to be.
- 58:45I think the idea of the Internet has definitely lived up to it.
- 58:48I just think that you know it, it's centralized AF.
- 58:51Like you guys see like Twitter going down or YouTube going down
- 58:55or you know, any of these platforms going down and you,
- 58:58you just it, it's like a, a friendly reminder to basically
- 59:03say like, hey, dude, like I am running on Jeff Bezos server in
- 59:07the middle of North Carolina. Like, you know, like that's
- 59:10literally what it's telling you. And Bitcoin doesn't go down.
- 59:15Like Nostr doesn't go down. You know, as much as we complain
- 59:18about Nostr in in terms of like like live streaming to it and
- 59:22stuff, the reality is it's a protocol.
- 59:25Like look like ever since we've been consistently streaming on
- 59:31Nostr and shout out to our friends over at Primal for
- 59:34hooking this up and and building this on top of Primal.
- 59:38We literally have not had an issue one time with Primal,
- 59:42right? And because again, Nostr
- 59:45fundamentally is a protocol at the end of the day, right?
- 59:49You know, a lot of these entities are are centralized and
- 59:52you know, at the end of the day, you could say, OK, but Nico,
- 59:55like what if the primal server goes down?
- 59:56It's like a but but. You can still.
- 59:57Use another service to stream right?
- 1:00:01You can't say that with any of the centralized platforms and
- 1:00:04and and Bitcoin operates in a in a very similar way where if you
- 1:00:07see PayPal go down for whatever reason.
- 1:00:09I've had this happen where my bank is down like I try to sign
- 1:00:12into my bank. And I personally.
- 1:00:15Guys, I'm going to get a lot of heat for this, but I'm going to
- 1:00:17tell you guys anyways. Like I like my bank.
- 1:00:20I like I like some of the banks that I use in the.
- 1:00:23US. My bank doesn't like me, I'll
- 1:00:24tell you that much. Like they, they, they do their
- 1:00:27job and like, I'm a, I'm a fan of the product, but I, I, I log
- 1:00:32in one day and you know, they're like, oh, sorry, the server is
- 1:00:37down. And like, that's not a big deal
- 1:00:40if it's like for a couple hours, right?
- 1:00:41It's not a big deal if, if Netflix is down for a couple
- 1:00:44hours. But like, imagine if like your
- 1:00:47bank is down for like a week like that.
- 1:00:49Would be a problem like you can't make payroll, you can't
- 1:00:51make payments, you can't access your money.
- 1:00:54At 3 days like things would get crazy.
- 1:00:56At 3 days that things would get crazy, right?
- 1:00:58So this is what we're talking about, right?
- 1:01:01Bitcoin, you fundamentally don't have to ask for permission.
- 1:01:04I think that's what makes it awesome.
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- 1:04:41I think we have a clash of the old world and the new.
- 1:04:45World. The big news for today is the
- 1:04:49S&P cuts Tether stable coin rating too weak on disclosure
- 1:04:54gaps The S&P Global downgraded its Tether rating, the world's
- 1:04:59largest stable coin, on Wednesday, citing an increase in
- 1:05:03higher risk assets in its reserves and quote persistent
- 1:05:08gaps in disclosure. Tether said it quote strongly
- 1:05:12disagrees with the characterization presented in
- 1:05:14the reports by SNP, which said that it is now rated the
- 1:05:18company's token, known as USDT. As quote as 5.
- 1:05:23Parentheses week, which is the lowest possible score down
- 1:05:27grading it from 4. Constraint.
- 1:05:30Look, I'll be honest with you guys.
- 1:05:33I think that's utter bullshit. And I'll tell you why I think
- 1:05:37that's utter garbage. Here's this Yahoo article.
- 1:05:42Tether bought 26 tons of gold in Q3 just to kind of give you guys
- 1:05:48a perspective that rivals at the end of September, the USDT
- 1:05:54issuer held around 116 tons of gold in total.
- 1:05:58If it were a central bank, Tethers gold reserves would rank
- 1:06:03among the top 30 in the world ahead of Greece, Qatar and
- 1:06:08Australia. So when I hear this type of
- 1:06:13characterization and narrative from the SNP basically.
- 1:06:18Saying Oh my God like. You know what to use their own
- 1:06:22words against them. Persist in higher risk assets in
- 1:06:27in its reserves. If it literally has more gold
- 1:06:31reserves than most central banks on planet Earth, like, I'm
- 1:06:37sorry, that's BS. And I think that there's a
- 1:06:42hidden agenda here. And I think that there is a, a
- 1:06:45hidden incentive here. And it, it, it, it, it's just,
- 1:06:50you know, again, this is the old system clashing with the new
- 1:06:53system. This is why JP Morgan attack
- 1:06:55strategy. This is a reaction or this is a
- 1:06:59reactionary, A reactionary type of article.
- 1:07:03And of course, they're using the legacy media a, a complex to, in
- 1:07:08order to get you to, to convince you to, to believe into this
- 1:07:11narrative, to buy into this narrative.
- 1:07:13But I don't, I don't believe into this narrative.
- 1:07:16I think the reason that they're trying to sell this narrative is
- 1:07:19the fact that this is a company that's run by Bitcoiners and
- 1:07:23they control and they founded the largest digital dollar on
- 1:07:29the face of the planet, which happens to be, by the way, one
- 1:07:32of the largest treasury buyers on planet Earth.
- 1:07:36So when I see the S&P downgrade into their lowest possible
- 1:07:40rating, I'm sorry, but I called BSI, called BS.
- 1:07:45This is politically motivated. I just don't believe you guys.
- 1:07:47And by the way, this is the same S&P rating and the same people
- 1:07:51that were telling you that Bear Stearns was fine and it was
- 1:07:55working and it was fantastic. I really recommend you guys
- 1:07:58watching The Big Short if you guys don't understand the
- 1:08:01reference. This is the same rating.
- 1:08:03This is the same people that are telling you.
- 1:08:05You know tethers a problem. Well, they're telling you Bear
- 1:08:08Stearns is fine and the thing the, the literally the stock
- 1:08:11collapsed to 0 right. I, I just, I'm sorry you're
- 1:08:15politically compromised. You have an agenda and you just
- 1:08:19don't like bitcoiners Like that's what I think my, my
- 1:08:22humble opinion. Here's Jeff Park.
- 1:08:24He says tether is the largest independent holder of gold
- 1:08:27bullions outside of central banks and doesn't have an ever
- 1:08:31expanding budget deficit. Call me, call me old school, but
- 1:08:37sounds like a AAA credit to me. Here is Chris Poblowski, the CEO
- 1:08:44of Tether of of Rumble, and he says the S&P only attacks Tether
- 1:08:48because Tether is challenging and beating the old financial
- 1:08:51guard at their own game. These old corporate entities
- 1:08:54cannot handle companies like Tether and Rumble taking their
- 1:08:57market share. Their only recourse is to attack
- 1:09:00us because they're losing. I completely fundamentally
- 1:09:02agree. Here's Teller, the Tether CEO
- 1:09:05Paulo Arduino, which I interviewed guys really
- 1:09:08recommend checking out the interview, one of my favorites
- 1:09:11and he says to S&P regarding your tether rating rating, we we
- 1:09:16wear your loathing with pride. The classical ratings model
- 1:09:20built for legacy financial institutions historically LED
- 1:09:23private and institutional investors to invest their wealth
- 1:09:26into companies that, despite being attributed investment
- 1:09:30grade ratings, collapsed, pushing worldwide regulators to
- 1:09:34challenge such models. The independence and objective
- 1:09:38assessment of all major Reddit rating agencies.
- 1:09:44The traditional financial propaganda machine.
- 1:09:46I didn't say it. Is growing worried when any
- 1:09:51company ties to defy the force of gravity of the broken
- 1:09:54financial system, no company should dare to decouple itself
- 1:09:58from it. I didn't say it.
- 1:10:00Tether itself built the first over capital, over capitalized
- 1:10:05company in the financial industry with no toxic reserves
- 1:10:09and yet is and remains extremely profitable.
- 1:10:12Tether is living proof that the traditional financial system is
- 1:10:15so broken that it's become being feared by the Emperor's with no
- 1:10:19clothes. And kind of connect that with
- 1:10:21the theme of today's show. We started with this very kind
- 1:10:25of insidious attack by JP Morgan fighting Bitcoin on Monday, then
- 1:10:30launching a Bitcoin related product two days later.
- 1:10:34And then you have the legacy financial media saying, hey,
- 1:10:37Tether is a terrible company. But if you look at the data,
- 1:10:43Tether is literally the most profitable company by employee
- 1:10:49on planet earth. It has more gold reserves than
- 1:10:53most central banks. I'm sorry, I don't believe the
- 1:10:57BSI don't believe the narrative. I don't believe the same people
- 1:11:02that told me that Bear Stearns was great and fine and dandy and
- 1:11:07had a grid rating and while simultaneously a couple days
- 1:11:11later its stock literally went to zero.
- 1:11:14I'm sorry. I'm one of the I'm one, one of
- 1:11:16the people that were part of the millennial generation and the
- 1:11:19Gen. Z generation that got screwed
- 1:11:21over by you guys in 2008. I don't believe you anymore
- 1:11:25more, which is why I'm in Bitcoin in the 1st place.
- 1:11:28So go F yourselves. Happy Thanksgiving.
- 1:11:32I'm going to pass it on to Opti. What do you think?
- 1:11:36Because I think this is politically motivated garbage.
- 1:11:39That's what I think, man. And there's a lot of things that
- 1:11:42Paulo said in his post that I, I, I, I don't feel like I have
- 1:11:47the liberty to say myself, but he's saying that part quiet part
- 1:11:51out loud. He's calling it propaganda.
- 1:11:55It's totally propaganda, 100% propaganda.
- 1:11:58I, I I'll say that. All right, let let's just Fact
- 1:12:03Check here. What what have we seen this
- 1:12:05year? Tether again, you guys may not
- 1:12:09like stable coins, but Tether is a Bitcoin company.
- 1:12:12They're all bitcoiners. They are, you know.
- 1:12:15Currently the biggest buyers of gold, they're one of the biggest
- 1:12:19treasury buyers and they have one of the biggest Bitcoin
- 1:12:23reserves out of in the whole world.
- 1:12:25So they're top three essentially.
- 1:12:28Yeah, I wouldn't say top three per SE, but they're in the top
- 1:12:31of the quote UN quote hardest soundest money in the world by
- 1:12:35any metric. Whether you're traditional
- 1:12:37finance, you think it's treasuries, whether you're more
- 1:12:40of a gold bug, you think it's gold.
- 1:12:42If you're a bitcoiner, you know, it's Bitcoin.
- 1:12:45And what's S&P? Do they downgrade them?
- 1:12:48Well, we've seen this play out before.
- 1:12:51S&P 500 also downgraded micro strategy.
- 1:12:56You know, whether you like Sailor or not, strategy holds
- 1:12:59the most Bitcoin, period. That's their whole company.
- 1:13:03Strategy is holding Bitcoin, buying Bitcoin, figuring out
- 1:13:06ways to get more Bitcoin. So we've seen these attacks
- 1:13:09happen all throughout the year. And then in a very similar
- 1:13:13grade, we've seen Moody's downgrade El Salvador.
- 1:13:15So if you don't think this is like a political attack, if you
- 1:13:19don't think this is a narrative propaganda trench warfare, as we
- 1:13:22used to say against Bitcoin, then you're really not paying
- 1:13:25attention because anyone that comes close to Bitcoin, the Fiat
- 1:13:29system does whatever narrative they can to keep people away
- 1:13:34from noticing what they're doing.
- 1:13:37And you know, one, one time, would you, you could say, oh,
- 1:13:40this is a coincidence 2 times. You're like, all right, You
- 1:13:44know, it's starting to kind of seem like there, there's a, a
- 1:13:47certain bias here by the third time, you know, fool me once,
- 1:13:51shame on you, fool me twice, can't fool me again or whatever
- 1:13:54that quote is. So like it's becoming very
- 1:13:56obvious. And again, as Nico was saying,
- 1:13:58when you connect this to the very beginning of the story of
- 1:14:00the show with the JP Morgan stuff, it's all becoming very
- 1:14:05obvious what's going on. One, they don't want you to hold
- 1:14:09Bitcoin, but 2, they want to hold the Bitcoin.
- 1:14:12They want to be the middle man. So again, it all goes back to
- 1:14:15the very simple, don't listen to what they say, watch what they
- 1:14:18do. And if you are here, if you're a
- 1:14:22bitcoiner, obviously this is just like, of course, this is
- 1:14:25what I've been doing for years now.
- 1:14:26But if you're newer to the space and you're not that hip to how
- 1:14:30these narratives work or how these different attack vectors
- 1:14:34happen, this is the episode hopefully that starts to open
- 1:14:38your eyes to what is actually happening.
- 1:14:40They do not want to see people hold Bitcoin.
- 1:14:43So what are they going to do? They're going to do the only
- 1:14:46thing they have left, which is sick.
- 1:14:48The propaganda media wings on Bitcoin, Bitcoin companies,
- 1:14:51Bitcoiners so that people get scared.
- 1:14:54It's called a chilling effect. If they can scare people away
- 1:14:58from Bitcoin, then they can try to maintain the power that they
- 1:15:01currently have. If that doesn't work, then the
- 1:15:04last final battle is when they fully capitulate.
- 1:15:07But I would argue that the JP Morgan story we covered earlier
- 1:15:10in the day is a full capitulation by any other name.
- 1:15:13We're already seeing this happen in real time.
- 1:15:16Wall Street wants Bitcoin, government want Bitcoin.
- 1:15:19The very things that Bitcoin was kind of created to fight against
- 1:15:23are now starting to embrace Bitcoin.
- 1:15:25So it's upon you again, Stacks at stay humble, stay solvent.
- 1:15:31This is how you win. Make sure you're continuously
- 1:15:34buying more Bitcoin, taking into the self custody because all of
- 1:15:38the narratives are doing one thing.
- 1:15:41They're either trying to scare you away from Bitcoin and then
- 1:15:43they buy the dip and create products on the back end or
- 1:15:49maybe they're just like creating narratives to be like, oh, now
- 1:15:52that you're doing this, maybe I need to stay away.
- 1:15:54And we've seen that happen too. That's.
- 1:15:55Exactly what's happening? Dude, like they're they're
- 1:15:58literally I I I like Paolo said it from like it's from his
- 1:16:03words, not mine. Like this is grade A propaganda
- 1:16:08Like this is like, I I don't believe these people.
- 1:16:14I I personally do I like? What happened in 2008 was a
- 1:16:20crime like this is what This is why Bitcoin was invented like
- 1:16:23what happened in 2008 was, was, was it?
- 1:16:27It was so damaging for the younger generations that the
- 1:16:33same institutions that are riding on the coattails of
- 1:16:36legitimacy and these emblems that have been around for so
- 1:16:40long, they're they're basically saying like, look like it.
- 1:16:45It, it kind of reminds me of like legacy media and it kind of
- 1:16:48reminds me. I'll give you guys the best
- 1:16:50example. If you go, if you guys are in
- 1:16:53the United States or in Canada, whatever.
- 1:16:55If you go on Fandango, right? If you go on Fandango and you
- 1:17:01look at the difference between the reviewer scores and audience
- 1:17:07scores, like I don't even know why reviewer scores are even a
- 1:17:11thing. Anymore these days.
- 1:17:13Like in my opinion, like it should be only audience scores.
- 1:17:19Like it should be the people that are voting whether a movie
- 1:17:21is good or not. Like, the reviewers were
- 1:17:26necessary in an era where the Internet didn't exist because
- 1:17:31that was the only way for someone to come up and say, OK,
- 1:17:35this is a movie worth your time. So you needed that, like that
- 1:17:40person to review the movie. It's very similar with legacy
- 1:17:43media. Like legacy media was extremely
- 1:17:48useful when the Internet was not around because it was the only
- 1:17:52way to convey information on a mass scale.
- 1:17:57And you needed an element of trust.
- 1:17:59You need an element of legitimacy.
- 1:18:01You need an element of like, you know, truth.
- 1:18:03Like you needed all of those things.
- 1:18:05But in the era of social media, in the era of the Internet, like
- 1:18:11the person who tells the truth is going to get the most views.
- 1:18:14Like it doesn't matter whether you have the emblem, a a very
- 1:18:17official emblem and a very notable name on the back.
- 1:18:21Like look at what's happened to CNN.
- 1:18:23The CNN is a great example. Like CNN 10/15/20 years ago.
- 1:18:29If you tune into CNN, you're like all right dude, I'm getting
- 1:18:33the news. If I tune into CNN today, I'm
- 1:18:36like. What's the propaganda wing
- 1:18:40saying to me? Like what do they want me to
- 1:18:42believe, you know? And and then like Opti and I
- 1:18:44went through this when the pandemic was happening.
- 1:18:47Like it was like so crazy because like, and this was like
- 1:18:50when simply was just beginning. Like we were like, wait a
- 1:18:52second. Like, how the hell are we
- 1:18:56breaking these stories before these people are like they have
- 1:18:59like hundreds of millions of dollars in budgets, professional
- 1:19:02journalists and somehow like we're breaking the news.
- 1:19:05Stories 1st and then we're getting it and we're also
- 1:19:08getting it more accurate in terms of the, the, the
- 1:19:12journalism and the and the, the, the reporting like.
- 1:19:16We're not professional journalists.
- 1:19:18Like what the Hell's going on there, right.
- 1:19:20So it obviously lets you to lead to starting conclusions.
- 1:19:23So I think that's the. Best analogy to kind of like,
- 1:19:26you know, compare and contrast like I think this S&P rating is
- 1:19:31just an attack on Tether because Tether is crushing it most
- 1:19:37profitable company on the face of the planet by employee and
- 1:19:41also, you know, hold some of the largest gold reserves and it's
- 1:19:46run by Bitcoiners. And treasuries.
- 1:19:48And Bitcoin. And it's run by bitcoiners like,
- 1:19:50yeah, I, I, I, I guess I wouldn't like them either if I
- 1:19:53was part of the legacy financial system.
- 1:19:55But that's just an opinion. Anyways, guys, let's get to the
- 1:19:59culture. It is Thanksgiving.
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- 1:22:06All right, all right, Nico, I was going to do a normal culture
- 1:22:08today, but it's not it's Thanksgiving.
- 1:22:11I'll push that for tomorrow. So I'll save what I have for for
- 1:22:14for you guys tomorrow. It's not a thanks, it's not a
- 1:22:17normal. Culture, it's not a normal
- 1:22:18culture. It's Thanksgiving, I think at
- 1:22:23this time. I think we did it last year.
- 1:22:25We're we're just going to shoot this shit with you guys for a
- 1:22:27little bit and then and then we got to get out of here.
- 1:22:28I guess we literally. We literally have our our
- 1:22:32families at the house. But my, my sister always does
- 1:22:34this corny thing and I always call it corny.
- 1:22:37I think I did it last year is where Thanksgiving, we sit
- 1:22:41around the table and you always say at least one thing that
- 1:22:44you're thankful for throughout the year and you guys can drop
- 1:22:48in the chat. Whatever it is, you can be
- 1:22:50serious, you control, but I I think it'd be a good way to just
- 1:22:54wrap up today's show. So what are we thankful for this
- 1:22:57year? I'll go first.
- 1:22:58I'm thankful for you bro. Aw, how cute.
- 1:23:02Come on dude, go I'm I'm not above flattery here.
- 1:23:05I'm thankful for you, dude. I mean, like I, I, you know, I,
- 1:23:09I, I run this company, I wear like all the hats I have to kind
- 1:23:15of be in the trenches of the whole thing and, you know,
- 1:23:19producing the most amount of content.
- 1:23:22No, I'm not going to say that, but.
- 1:23:30Producing as much content. As we do is very difficult.
- 1:23:33Yeah, facts. And making a business out of it
- 1:23:36is very difficult as well. So, you know, I, I wear a lot of
- 1:23:42hats and when I initially got into simply Bitcoin and, and
- 1:23:46making content, I initially just wanted to be a content creator
- 1:23:48in my heart. I still think I, I do want to do
- 1:23:50that, but you, you get bestowed all these responsibilities and
- 1:23:57at the end of the day, the live show is like my baby.
- 1:24:00You know, that's like literally what's gotten us, you know, on
- 1:24:03the radar of the Bitcoin world and Bitcoin industry.
- 1:24:07And I've had to kind of delegate it a little bit just because of
- 1:24:12the amount of responsibilities that I have these days.
- 1:24:15And I've delegated it to Opti. I'll be honest, it, you know,
- 1:24:20many times it's been rough. Many times I feel like he would
- 1:24:27have potentially got in the channel bands.
- 1:24:31But I think after a while, I think you got the, you know,
- 1:24:34the, the you, you, you kind of found your groove and you've
- 1:24:39lived up to the, to the, to the, to the role and to what's what,
- 1:24:45what's been expected of you. And, you know, I think you've, I
- 1:24:52think you've done a great job. So the days that I'm travelling,
- 1:24:55podcasting, you know, talking to certain people, you know, and
- 1:25:01you, you guys don't see me on the show and you see Opti Opti's
- 1:25:07pushing the buttons literally and figuratively.
- 1:25:11So I am thankful for you for doing that bro.
- 1:25:13I appreciate. It Well, thank you.
- 1:25:15I appreciate that. I do appreciate that.
- 1:25:17Yeah, guys, I'm the one to blame for most of the stuff.
- 1:25:19OK, you guys yell at me about the thumbnails, the titles.
- 1:25:23Dude, it's all me, guys. I I've been, I've been letting
- 1:25:25Nikka take the heat for that. It's all it's all me.
- 1:25:30No, Nikka, thank you, man. I I appreciate that.
- 1:25:33This year's definitely been one of those.
- 1:25:36Building years for us. I haven't taken a break all
- 1:25:39year. It's been super hectic.
- 1:25:41Of course, the price has been wrecked, the news sometimes have
- 1:25:43been slow. But what I'm most thankful for,
- 1:25:47obviously on the one hand, it's Nico as well for initially
- 1:25:51taking kind of the chance with me and then throwing me into
- 1:25:54this position. On the other side, it's really
- 1:25:57every single one of you guys. You guys like the fact that
- 1:26:00we've built this company, the show.
- 1:26:02The. The as I like to joke with you
- 1:26:04guys, the cult following out there, like I said it what last
- 1:26:08week when I came back from the mining disrupt and I'm most
- 1:26:13thankful for all of you guys that are out there that are
- 1:26:16literally helping us, you know, build this dream job.
- 1:26:20But also kind of the feedback loop, the positive feedback loop
- 1:26:24within you guys that you guys when you come up to us and
- 1:26:26you're like, dude, you guys are killing it.
- 1:26:28I love I love Ruston when he goes bananas.
- 1:26:31I love Dante. I love when Nico gets crazy
- 1:26:34eyed. I love Opti joking like you're
- 1:26:36macro takes and that's the stuff that keeps us going because we
- 1:26:41forget that there's real people out there.
- 1:26:43To us, it's just kind of numbers, you know, we, we're
- 1:26:45literally sitting here looking into cameras, just talking and
- 1:26:49so. We, we see thousands of people
- 1:26:52like that are like tuning in, but like, we don't know what
- 1:26:55that means, right? So like the only time we ever
- 1:26:58experienced that, like in meat space is like when we go to
- 1:27:01conferences and like, we have like people come up to us and
- 1:27:04like, Hey, can I take a picture with you?
- 1:27:05And it's like, oh, wow. Like, you know, like what we
- 1:27:08like. This is crazy, but you know.
- 1:27:11Yeah, they're saying drunk bro love is the best love.
- 1:27:16It's Thanksgiving, guys. The Roman I.
- 1:27:18Don't know about. Drunk bro, I don't know about
- 1:27:20that, but like, you know, the Romans have us and I'm not going
- 1:27:24to go down that rabbit hole, but the, the, the point I'm trying
- 1:27:28to make is that like, we don't know, like we don't see, we
- 1:27:32don't see the reality of, of what our audience is because
- 1:27:38it's all digital, right? So, you know, like it, it could,
- 1:27:42you, could you guys imagine like what 50 people in a room is
- 1:27:45like, it's a lot of people, right?
- 1:27:48So like, in my mind, I'm like, Can you imagine what like, and
- 1:27:51some of our video just get hundreds of thousands of views.
- 1:27:53So it's like, Can you imagine what like 1000 people in a room
- 1:27:57would be like, like a later literally 1000 people in a room.
- 1:28:02It's a lot of effing people. It's a lot of people and these
- 1:28:06days that's what our live streams get.
- 1:28:09So like, but we don't see that. We don't know what that means.
- 1:28:13Like we don't like, we don't have like a like a human
- 1:28:17indication of that. Like what we see is numbers on a
- 1:28:20screen. So, you know, obviously it means
- 1:28:24a lot. You know, again, our, our, our,
- 1:28:28you know, we're really thankful for, I'm very thankful for our
- 1:28:30partners. That's another one.
- 1:28:33Very thankful for our partners 'cause they're the ones that
- 1:28:35keep the lights on. I do like the lights.
- 1:28:37So, you know, I want to give a shout out to, you know, Bitcoin
- 1:28:41way let in Bitcoin. Well, you know Bitkey.
- 1:28:45Stamp. Seed Stamp. 1-2 Stamp. 123.
- 1:28:48Bitcoin bad. Bitcoin band, but bit love, bit
- 1:28:51love all of Bitcoin bands. SAS, you know, we would not be
- 1:28:55on air without our partners, so I think we're missing a couple.
- 1:29:00So hive, of course. I.
- 1:29:03I you know, we would not be on air without you guys.
- 1:29:06So we're very very, you know, very, very thankful for all you
- 1:29:10guys and mining disrupts again, big Bitcoin Ben yeah, a very,
- 1:29:17very, very thankful for all you guys would not be on air without
- 1:29:20you guys. We're not we would not be on air
- 1:29:22without our audience. So thankful for you guys really
- 1:29:24appreciate you guys tuning in every single day.
- 1:29:26Maybe our dreams come true making this live show keep
- 1:29:29going. It's been five years since this
- 1:29:32show launched, which is pretty crazy to say when when Opti
- 1:29:36joined, you know, we we decided to take it live.
- 1:29:41It was an experiment at the time.
- 1:29:42It turned out to be a very good idea, but.
- 1:29:46You could say I was right. You could say I was.
- 1:29:48Right. Yeah, I think you're absolutely
- 1:29:49right. And, you know, here we are many
- 1:29:53years later, you know, five years since Simply's founding
- 1:29:55and. Yeah, here's to at least one
- 1:30:00more year, yeah, and hopefully another 10.
- 1:30:02I my, my mind is I kind of take it day by day and you know,
- 1:30:07like, let's see what happens. But yeah guys, we really
- 1:30:11appreciate you guys tuning into the show.
- 1:30:12We love you guys. We.
- 1:30:13Appreciate you. Maybe we should be thankful for
- 1:30:15Bitcoin as well. I'm thankful for Bitcoin.
- 1:30:17I'm a thankful. For, I mean, not for this year.
- 1:30:18This year's been kind of mid, but hey, there's still time left
- 1:30:21in the year. I think you just have your
- 1:30:23expectations too high. You know, I think we're in a
- 1:30:26bear market, I think. We're still ripping.
- 1:30:29Maybe, maybe. Anyways guys, go enjoy your
- 1:30:32Thanksgiving. Go enjoy it with your family.
- 1:30:34I hope this was entertaining. For you, I hope you.
- 1:30:36Provided a little bit of value, some sauce, some signal crazy
- 1:30:40stuff happening with JP Morgan and MicroStrategy like kind of
- 1:30:43this this war on Wall Street. Again, if you live in the EU,
- 1:30:47hit up your representative, tell him you don't you're not OK with
- 1:30:51chat control like that. That sounds crazy.
- 1:30:54And again, it's you know, the Flack is heaviest over the
- 1:30:57target. When I see tether being attacked
- 1:31:00by legacy financial kind of institutions and media that
- 1:31:05tells me the right over the target.
- 1:31:07Like the the very idea that to make an even to make even an
- 1:31:11argument that, you know, it's the most profitable company on
- 1:31:17the face of the planet. They have gold reserves that
- 1:31:19like compete with central banks and to tell me.
- 1:31:22That they have a solvent. Like it's so crazy.
- 1:31:25But again, the signal there is it tells me that Bitcoin is
- 1:31:29winning. That's what it tells me, right?
- 1:31:32And that's what I want you guys to internalize.
- 1:31:34So whether we're heading into a bear market next year or
- 1:31:37whether. We're not.
- 1:31:38No one really knows. Anyone who tells you otherwise
- 1:31:41is straight up lying. Enjoy the day with your family,
- 1:31:45enjoy the day with your friends. Get fat, eat some Turkey, eat
- 1:31:48some stuffing and for people. That don't celebrate
- 1:31:51Thanksgiving. Enjoy the day regardless.
- 1:31:53Yeah, drink some Baileys. And we'll try to make.
- 1:31:56It here tomorrow we'll have a show.
- 1:31:58We'll try, I'll go for her, not we'll be here.
- 1:32:02We'll we'll be here tomorrow and and hopefully we'll celebrate it
- 1:32:06for you guys. But anyways, guys, we love you
- 1:32:08all. We appreciate it.
- 1:32:09Watch out Opti, please, for me and Opti, all the love in the
- 1:32:14world. Thank you guys so much.
- 1:32:16Again, we wouldn't be here without you and we'll see you
- 1:32:19guys tomorrow for a brand new episode of SB live.
- 1:32:21Take care, everybody. Today's episode was brought to
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- 1:33:46No. Maybe.
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