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Red and Blue: Jarom Jordan on BYU's 12 win season, Jay Hill to Michigan (?), How many players might they lose to the portal (?) + more · The Sean O'Connell Show

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Speaker 2: Jerem Jordan, Welcome back to the show. How are you, sir?
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Speaker 3: I'm doing great, Sean the almost happy news bro.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're almost there, and the same to you. How
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Speaker 4: are BYU football fans feeling right now? I know it was,
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Speaker 4: you know, a little bit of a disappointment that no
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Speaker 4: invitation to the college Football Playoff came for Christmas. But
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Speaker 4: the Pop Tarts Bowl, Kilanie and the Boys seemed to
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Speaker 4: kind of embrace it.
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Speaker 2: It was a.
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Speaker 4: Fun game, not only the chaos with the mascots, but
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Speaker 4: the gameplay itself. To come from behind victory all that
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Speaker 4: and capping off a twelve win season now with a
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Speaker 4: Bowl win, got to feel pretty good.
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Speaker 3: Ecstatic. I think buy fans are good about all right,
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Speaker 3: what's within our control. Let's move on. Like once, you know,
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Speaker 3: once it was the middle of the fourth quarter, it's like,
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Speaker 3: all right, we ain't making the playoffs. Now what Dewey
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Speaker 3: had the opportunity to go to Alamo if they wanted,
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Speaker 3: they said no because they wanted to just mix it up.
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Speaker 3: That was the first pick, and Boi chose pop Tart
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Speaker 3: and it was a ton of fun. It was a
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Speaker 3: great matchup with George Tech and at player the Aaron
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Speaker 3: Haines King, and that was It was a fun game.
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Speaker 3: Obviously goes down to the wired Cotton Bowl vibes for
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Speaker 3: bo fans making a pick in the red zone to
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Speaker 3: win a big game on a national stage and the
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Speaker 3: Cougar's finished with twelve wins and now just celebrate one
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Speaker 3: of the best seasons ever. I personally, I think this
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Speaker 3: was the fourth best boy team ever. I put eighty
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Speaker 3: four and eighty three and ninety six as the top three,
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Speaker 3: and then because power forwar conference and conference championship appearance
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Speaker 3: and twelve wins and three ranked wins in the final
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Speaker 3: College Football Playoff rankings. I mean, this was one of
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Speaker 3: the best joy seasons ever and they did it with
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Speaker 3: the true Reshman, which is absolutely crazy the Cougars to
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Speaker 3: put back to back seasons together. They were not a
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Speaker 3: one hit wonder and the future super bright. It's exciting. Obviously,
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Speaker 3: questions surrounding Jay Hill and whatnot to Michigan just kind
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Speaker 3: of waiting for what seems like the inevitable. But it
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Speaker 3: was an outstanding season and the future looks super bright
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Speaker 3: for the Cougars.
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Speaker 4: Is that is that as much of a done deal
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Speaker 4: as we're gonna call it until the announcement has made officially.
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Speaker 3: Feels like it. You know, I need to double check today,
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Speaker 3: but as of yesterday afternoon had not told coaches or players,
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Speaker 3: you know, hey, I'm going to Michigan, but I anicipade
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Speaker 3: this will happen. What I really want is the Leonardo
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Speaker 3: DiCaprio gift from Wolfs of Wall Street. But I don't
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Speaker 3: think we're gonna get it. But you know, Jay, and
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Speaker 3: I feel like I was one of the first to
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Speaker 3: kind of stay this out loud with you is like
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Speaker 3: Jay's gonna get you knows lucky to have. Jay's gonna
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Speaker 3: get another big gig at some point. Like he really
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Speaker 3: helped turn around that defense. They've been top twenty five
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Speaker 3: the last two years and had a certain toughness and
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Speaker 3: a certain ability to take the ball away that really
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Speaker 3: helped YU compete in the Conference Power Conference League after
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Speaker 3: they went five and seven, and they've been recruiting at
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Speaker 3: a super high level. Things have never been brighter in
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Speaker 3: terms of the brand from BYU, the recruiting, the uh
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Speaker 3: the arrow is up and it's bright green, and there's
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Speaker 3: a lot of that with Jay Hill. But it's bigger
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Speaker 3: than Jay. It's bigger than even Kilani, even though By's
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Speaker 3: best win of the year was retaining Kilanie. And now
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Speaker 3: they can keep this thing going. We'll see if it's
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Speaker 3: you know, Sean Newitt from USC, or an internal guy
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Speaker 3: like Kelly Pepeinga or Justin Enner or General Guilford, or
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Speaker 3: if they even went outside and brought in like a
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Speaker 3: like Justin Wilcox from CAL to be the DC or
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Speaker 3: something like that. But I think you're always gonna be
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Speaker 3: in good hands. They're they're in great shape.
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Speaker 4: So if Kyle Whittingham successfully lures J Hill away, does
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Speaker 4: that change BYU fans opinion of Kyle even or push
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Speaker 4: it even more into the negative ledger? Because I remember
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Speaker 4: sitting on set be WHYU TV set the day of
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Speaker 4: the Rivalry game, and I was asked, like, how how
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Speaker 4: should be YU fans feel about Kyle Whittingham? This is
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Speaker 4: probably his last season, and I was like, look, you
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Speaker 4: gotta appreciate the guy.
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Speaker 2: He's a great person, he's a great coach.
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Speaker 4: And people were kind of booing, you know, like we
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Speaker 4: don't love Kyle Whittingham.
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Speaker 2: If he steals J Hill, they're gonna hate him even more.
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Speaker 3: It's completely understandable to grab j. Why wouldn't you grab Jay?
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Speaker 3: You know? Uh, you know, now he's a you and
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Speaker 3: Cougar legend, which is hard to do. You know. I
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Speaker 3: guess Kline has crossed that across that road. I guess technically,
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Speaker 3: LaBelle got a doctorate from Utah, so he's like you
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Speaker 3: where he got a graduate degree from the other school.
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Speaker 3: I think I think label actually got a master's. He
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Speaker 3: got his undergrads from Utah State, his master's from YU
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Speaker 3: and a doctorate from uh Utah. I f I recall
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Speaker 3: correctly he got the holy trinity of grad degrees on that.
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Speaker 3: That's pretty good. I know. I think people understand who
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Speaker 3: and what Kyle is. Although did you see this? J
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Speaker 3: Drew tweeted from a press conference that Kyle had done
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Speaker 3: in Orlando ahead of Michigan's Bowl game. Is Kyle mentioned,
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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, when I played at b y U and
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Speaker 3: for the Cougars here in the centers boll back in
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Speaker 3: the eighties, like actually said the letters. You know that
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Speaker 3: he hasn't said and.
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Speaker 4: Hold on, hold on, k Kyle would he does say
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Speaker 4: b YU all right, Kyle Herbert Mayer was the team
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Speaker 4: down south guy. He Kyle would have several times, I
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Speaker 4: mean many, many, many times.
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Speaker 3: Reference what are you talking about?
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Speaker 2: He would say, BYU.
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Speaker 4: He's not He's not against mentioning his own alma mater.
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Speaker 3: It felt like he was for a long time and
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Speaker 3: it was super annoying where it's like you won't even
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Speaker 3: send a letter. No, it's all good like, but it
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Speaker 3: is wild man. It's like the best analogy and I
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Speaker 3: don't know how you feel. It's just been crazy to
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Speaker 3: be like, wait, what you divorced mom and you dated
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Speaker 3: like the younger girlfriend. Suddenly like this you got married
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Speaker 3: super quick. Like it just feels kind of weird for everybody, right.
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Speaker 4: That that is that is a pretty apt analogy where
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Speaker 4: it's just like you have this, you know, two decade
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Speaker 4: marriage and it's mostly good, but there's some things that
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Speaker 4: probably bug you about each other. And then the next
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Speaker 4: week you're on some tropical island with the uh the
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Speaker 4: front desk worker from the country club or something.
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Speaker 2: You're like, what the heck? Anyone else from incredible?
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Speaker 4: Is there anyone else from Yu? You think that it
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Speaker 4: follows Kyle to Michigan.
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Speaker 3: That's a good question. Uh, you know, frankly, I hope not,
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Speaker 3: because I like, I think this defensive staff has been awesome.
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Speaker 3: I think a lot of these guys are connected to Jade,
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Speaker 3: but perhaps more with with Kilani. And so we'll see
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Speaker 3: and yeah, we'll we'll will Jason back go with him?
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Speaker 3: Like will this be some your Utah conglomeration there? It'll
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Speaker 3: it'll be interesting to see that. Man. Wouldn't it have
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Speaker 3: been crazy if Kilanie took the Penn stage job and
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Speaker 3: Kyle got the Michigan job another meeting in the Big Ten.
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Speaker 3: That would have been crazy.
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Speaker 4: It would have been insane, and it would have decimated
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Speaker 4: power fund football power for football at the State of Utah.
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Speaker 2: Uh oh yeah, on both fronts, I don't. I don't
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Speaker 2: like that idea.
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Speaker 4: So is Gary Anderson a candidate for the defensive coordinator
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Speaker 4: position at b YU.
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Speaker 3: No, and it has And I don't really like broaching
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Speaker 3: sort of how active people are in the church kind
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Speaker 3: of thing, But to be the coordinator, if you're going
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Speaker 3: to be a member, you got to be pretty active,
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Speaker 3: is my understanding. So, you know, and Gary has been
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Speaker 3: happy to and I don't know all the details, but
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Speaker 3: Gary's been happy to be behind the scenes and influential
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Speaker 3: in that way. Like is he a name that like
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Speaker 3: should be thrown in there, Like totally, But I think
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Speaker 3: there's some sort of byu circumstances that might keep him
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Speaker 3: more as kind of an analyst in that space. Same
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Speaker 3: with Chad.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I didn't know that requirement extended to the coordinators.
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Speaker 4: I was only aware that head coaches at b YU
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Speaker 4: had to kind of be, you know, fully, fully dialed in.
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Speaker 3: I don't know the official take on it, but my
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Speaker 3: understanding is that's why kind of Gary wasn't in the
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Speaker 3: first place, or isn't like kind of a higher profile
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Speaker 3: like you know, out the guy in the media with
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Speaker 3: Uyu's defense per se. Again, I don't know all the
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Speaker 3: details and the information there, but Gary's influence has been awesome.
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Speaker 3: It's been amazing to have him here. I hope he
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Speaker 3: stays here. If I'm Kyle, I'm like, dude, come along
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Speaker 3: with us, please help You've coached in this league at Wisconsin,
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Speaker 3: help us navigate this. That's what I would do if
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Speaker 3: I was Kyle, I would try and bring Gary Anderson
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Speaker 3: with me for sure.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised by that.
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Speaker 4: Jerem Jordan is our guest here a little Red and Blue,
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Speaker 4: talking about BYU just wrapping up their season with a
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Speaker 4: Pop Tarts Bowl victory over Georgia Tech. The transfer portal
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Speaker 4: opens on Friday, and Utah got the bad news today
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Speaker 4: that John Henry Daily, their best defensive player from this
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Speaker 4: past season, intends to enter said transfer portal. Is there
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Speaker 4: any scuttle butts around certain BYU players that has the
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Speaker 4: fan base nervous?
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Speaker 3: I mean some people think follow tells out to Walla,
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Speaker 3: Might you know, go to Michigan with Jay is a
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Speaker 3: guy that's Yeah, I've been loyal to Colonne loyal Jay,
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Speaker 3: so that'd be one that I keep an eye on.
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Speaker 3: But outside of that, I feel pretty confident that boy
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Speaker 3: is going to retain most of the guys. I think
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Speaker 3: people that come to YU typically you know, for the
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Speaker 3: most part, enjoy their experience here, stay here. You know
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Speaker 3: their exceptions including you mentioned John Henry daily, which I'm
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Speaker 3: hearing Michigan and Texas. A and M are interested in
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Speaker 3: him quite a bit, obviously Michigan, but A and M
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Speaker 3: would be interesting given the connection to his grandparents. His
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Speaker 3: grandpa taught it in college station at six A and M.
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Speaker 3: And obviously uncles and play at the AY and Newtown whatnot.
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Speaker 3: Almost played at A and M, so that'd be interesting. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: I think it's mainly folatile. Not hearing much on anyone else.
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Speaker 3: But you always pretty interesting with the portal, Like if
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Speaker 3: they get a portal guy, it's like a ninety chance
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Speaker 3: they are in the too deep it's and that's with
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Speaker 3: a lot of schools, like if you bring a guy in,
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Speaker 3: they're not gonna You're not bringing a guy in too
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Speaker 3: much to hey ride the Pine and be a bench guy.
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Speaker 3: You're coming in to actually play. So I think Carson
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Speaker 3: Ryan was best example that had an outstanding year, peaked
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Speaker 3: with eight for one, a great game against Georgia Tech.
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Speaker 3: It was fun to see.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I got I got a lot of heat from
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Speaker 4: Utah fans when I talked about how he was a
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Speaker 4: bad loss. Everyone was like all in on Tanuvasa being
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Speaker 4: the big issue there. And certainly, you know, he had
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Speaker 4: a solid season for BYU and he was a big.
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Speaker 2: Loss for Utah.
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Speaker 4: But I thought that Carson Ryan was going to have
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Speaker 4: this kind of a year and he ended up doing it.
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Speaker 4: And look, Dallan Bentley at Utah made his presence less obvious,
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Speaker 4: or I guess his absence less obvious Carson Ryan's absence
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Speaker 4: less obvious because Dallen really rose to the occasion had
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Speaker 4: a great year. But Carson Ryan was an excellent player
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Speaker 4: at BYU, and I don't know why people didn't think
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Speaker 4: it was gonna be that way.
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Speaker 3: You know, you were on it and that's your credit.
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Speaker 3: Keanu Kanu was interesting because I don't think he had
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Speaker 3: the kind of year that he was hoping for. I
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Speaker 3: think BYU, from my understanding is they were more like,
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Speaker 3: all right, our system is different. You need to plug
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Speaker 3: into that, and then you need your stats might not
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Speaker 3: be as big, but you need to plug into the system,
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Speaker 3: and this is what we need you to do. And
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Speaker 3: so he ends up with twenty five tackles, four and
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Speaker 3: a half CFLs, two stacks. He does block a field
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Speaker 3: goal in against Georgia Tech that kind of swung the momentum,
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Speaker 3: which was a big play, and he mentioned there's a
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Speaker 3: high likelihood of him coming back to YU. So I'm
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Speaker 3: looking forward to him hopefully hopefully getting you know, closer
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Speaker 3: to you know, eight or ten sacks and being an
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Speaker 3: NFL guy coming up in the future.
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Speaker 4: So when you talk about Sala Tel Satawala and I'm
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Speaker 4: jumping around a little bit here, he's a guy that
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Speaker 4: you look at it and you say, yeah, kid could
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Speaker 4: play anywhere. He's got the frame, got the athleticism, got
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Speaker 4: the speed. One of the interesting things about this dynamic
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Speaker 4: when people are like, oh, who's Kyle Winningham going to
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Speaker 4: take with him? From a player standpoint, Kyle showed up
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Speaker 4: at a Michigan practice and probably was looking around on
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Speaker 4: the field even though they didn't have a great year
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Speaker 4: as a team and just be like, oh my goodness,
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Speaker 4: look at these freaks. Because the Michigan roster and the
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Speaker 4: Utah roster are not equal from a raw talent standpoint.
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Speaker 4: The Michigan roster and the BYU roster are not equal
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Speaker 4: from a raw talent in five star recruit and thing
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Speaker 4: like that standpoint, And it begs the question for me,
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Speaker 4: like how many guys you actually can take from the
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Speaker 4: state of Utah. Now, I think that there's more than
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Speaker 4: a handful. I think that both of these rosters are
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Speaker 4: underrated for the measurables and things like that. But it's
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Speaker 4: not like you could just plug and play everyone from
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Speaker 4: BYU or Utah at Michigan and expect that that team
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Speaker 4: is gonna be competing for Big Ten championships no matter
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Speaker 4: how good the staff is that Kyle puts together. So
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Speaker 4: does it help BYU and Utah that the athleticism bar
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Speaker 4: at Michigan is a little bit higher than either of
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Speaker 4: those schools.
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Speaker 3: And there's a certain yeah, there's a certain you know,
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Speaker 3: regionality Michigan recruits nationally. But like you're gonna get the
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go on a minor sapbox thing here in
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Speaker 3: the eighteen hundreds, you know, Ohio is in the Midwest,
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Speaker 3: but not anymore that should be called mid East. They
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Speaker 3: have more mid East regionally people, right, Like they can
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Speaker 3: recruit wherever they want, but like there could be a
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Speaker 3: poly pipeline that goes to Michigan that wasn't there before
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Speaker 3: with Kyle's connections obviously, And yeah, you're right, there could
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Speaker 3: be certain people from Utah. But I'm not sure that
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Speaker 3: Boa and Utah get plucked as much as we think
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Speaker 3: because Michigan, granted they can, you know, transfer, they just
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Speaker 3: signed ten four stars and two five stars. To your point,
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Speaker 3: they were eleventh and twenty four seven sports recruiting rankings.
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Speaker 3: Like they don't need a time from you know, by
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Speaker 3: U and Utah per se. Will there be a few
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Speaker 3: that trickle over due to the relationships with current coaches
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Speaker 3: and whatnot. Yeah, absolutely that makes sense. But yeah, I'm
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Speaker 3: with you. I think I think by and ut are
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Speaker 3: in a good spot culturally that they retained probably a
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Speaker 3: lot of these guys.
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Speaker 4: How much are they gonna have to pay Bear Bachmeier?
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Speaker 4: He seems like he really likes Provo, likes the BYU thing. Yeah,
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Speaker 4: his brother is there, but you know he's going to
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Speaker 4: come back next year. As a top twenty and I
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Speaker 4: think maybe higher than that quarterback returning in the country
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Speaker 4: after a phenomenal freshman campaign, So you know, it still
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Speaker 4: is a business.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want like fifteen or ten percent of
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Speaker 3: whatever seat he's getting for myself. I would I would
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Speaker 3: take I would take that. Yeah, if I'm him, you know,
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Speaker 3: obviously you go in and you say, hey, this is
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Speaker 3: great year. I'm wondering if I can get this kind
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Speaker 3: of kind of amount, And you know, it's all like
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Speaker 3: we've talked about, it's all structured out of like okay,
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Speaker 3: if you're an All American, if you're a first FEMO conference,
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Speaker 3: if you're a starter, if you're this so BYU is
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Speaker 3: you know on it and I understand. And the fit
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Speaker 3: is really good, Like you mentioned, I think Bear for
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Speaker 3: being a guy who's not a member of the Churchy
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Speaker 3: s Crest, I thinks fits super well. If you enjoy
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Speaker 3: focusing on ball here, enjoys his teammates, his brothers, as
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Speaker 3: he said, a bunch and obviously got to play with
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Speaker 3: Tiger this year, which is great until Yeah, the future
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Speaker 3: looks bright man at that position with Roger Lyons after
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Speaker 3: a mission as well.
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Speaker 4: So the Kilanie goes to bat for his assistant coaches,
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Speaker 4: everyone gets, you know, an elevated pay scale, just like
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Speaker 4: Kilanie does. At least that's what the reports came back
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Speaker 4: after the Penn State attempt to poach him to Happy Valley,
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Speaker 4: their version of Happy Valley. And you know, you would think, oh,
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Speaker 4: that means everyone's happier, everyone's great, everyone like. And yet
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Speaker 4: you hear the rumor mill. And I don't lend too
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Speaker 4: much credence to most rumor mills, but you hear like,
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Speaker 4: maybe Aaron Roderick would rather be at Utah under Morgan
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Speaker 4: Scaly than at BYU under Kilane.
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Speaker 2: Well, he's developed.
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Speaker 4: Three quarterbacks very successfully at BUYU and that's probably under
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Speaker 4: shooting it in terms of the number. And you know,
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Speaker 4: they had a really good offensive year in a twelve
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Speaker 4: win season. Is Aaron Rodrick potentially on the move.
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Speaker 3: It's a good question only Aaron can probably answer. But
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Speaker 3: my sense is that he really enjoys being here and
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Speaker 3: the ability to be creative and the ability to be
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Speaker 3: his alma mater. I think obviously it feels like his
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Speaker 3: wings were clipped just a little bit when it's in
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Speaker 3: his time at Utaw. It felt like for a time
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Speaker 3: there where you know he maybe couldn't kind of expand
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Speaker 3: and kind of do it He's been able to do
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Speaker 3: here at Byu. That's been just kind of my sense
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Speaker 3: observing the past kind of decade there. But Aaron's done
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Speaker 3: a great job. There's some haters of a round. I
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Speaker 3: don't know why. I just look at like it's now
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Speaker 3: like three quarterbacks that have played in the NFL in Zach, Jaron,
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Speaker 3: and Keaton Slows and then Bear is one of the best,
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Speaker 3: if not the best freshman QB in America, Like, what
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Speaker 3: else do you want from this guy? Byu? Offensively, certainly,
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Speaker 3: could they put up bigger numbers in certain situations, yes,
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Speaker 3: but he is more about just situationally, what do we
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Speaker 3: need to do to win this game? And he's been
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Speaker 3: the ocum. A team that's won twenty three games last
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Speaker 3: year is in a power league. I'd be like, I'm
18:13
Speaker 3: not sure how much better it can be. And by
18:17
Speaker 3: they just recruited one of the best quarterbacks in the
18:19
Speaker 3: country to come here after this mission, so things are
18:21
Speaker 3: going spectacularly. Also, the Big twelve Offensive Player of the
18:24
Speaker 3: Year just came from Yu and LJ. Martin. Like running
18:29
Speaker 3: backs have been tremendous with you know, Tyler Algier recently,
18:33
Speaker 3: and Chris Brooks is in the NFL, the Packers, and
18:35
Speaker 3: now LJ. Martin's probably going to be in the league
18:38
Speaker 3: either next year or the year after that. Things are
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Speaker 3: going great here. I'm not sure. I'm not sure what
18:42
Speaker 3: else people want.
18:45
Speaker 4: Would it be next year or the year after that?
18:47
Speaker 4: Do you think for LJ Martin making his transition to
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Speaker 4: the NFL.
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Speaker 3: All the indications I've been told is that LJ will return.
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Speaker 3: He has yet to say that officially, but multiple sources
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Speaker 3: have told me that he's leaning that direction, which is great.
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Speaker 3: I think BYU should start as the top fifteen team
19:05
Speaker 3: if Baron LJ return, and that would be the greatest
19:09
Speaker 3: I think post Christmas present. The BUA fans can get it. Hey,
19:12
Speaker 3: Ejay's coming back.
19:16
Speaker 2: After a great year like this.
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Speaker 4: How many by you guys are going to be impact
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Speaker 4: players from this roster in the NFL, the ones that
19:22
Speaker 4: are moving on.
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Speaker 3: It's a good question. You know, Jack Kelly seems like
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Speaker 3: the most draftable prospect at the moment, and we'll see
19:31
Speaker 3: who else is kind of in the mix there, But
19:34
Speaker 3: I think it'll be a few years before we see
19:35
Speaker 3: the true kind of NFL impact of these guys with
19:39
Speaker 3: l J and Isaiah Glasker and and you know what
19:42
Speaker 3: does Chase Roberts end up doing whether he's a late
19:44
Speaker 3: draft pick or an undrafted free agent, like he's he's
19:47
Speaker 3: a long stritter. He's not gonna he's not gonna perhaps
19:50
Speaker 3: run the hopefully he runs like a four five nine,
19:52
Speaker 3: and he's in the mix kind of like a Puka
19:54
Speaker 3: where he gets on a roster and I'm not saying
19:56
Speaker 3: he's gonna be Pooka, but just has a chance even
19:58
Speaker 3: though he's not like a four to four receiver in
20:01
Speaker 3: the Underwear Olympics coming up in a couple months. But
20:05
Speaker 3: I think BYU is on its way to producing more
20:08
Speaker 3: NFL talent, and they're winning as a team with guys
20:12
Speaker 3: who were mostly three and a few four stars, and
20:15
Speaker 3: to start to have more four stars now and recruiting
20:18
Speaker 3: and produce even more NFL talent. But the development is
20:21
Speaker 3: there by he's been recruiting decently and overachieving with those guys.
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Speaker 3: I think they're gonna achieve at a higher level with
20:29
Speaker 3: even more talented guys, can produce more NFL guys the
20:32
Speaker 3: next couple.
20:32
Speaker 4: Years can b why you do anything for Puka Nakua
20:36
Speaker 4: right now? Obviously on the field he needs no help
20:39
Speaker 4: some of the off the field stuff, you're like, come on, man,
20:42
Speaker 4: don't screw this up for yourself.
20:44
Speaker 2: And he's not like.
20:47
Speaker 4: He's not too far gone by anything any stretch of
20:49
Speaker 4: the imagination. He just seems like maybe he could benefit
20:53
Speaker 4: from a little bit more of the BYU style influence,
20:57
Speaker 4: if I'm making sense there.
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Speaker 2: But officially it's not their role anymore.
21:02
Speaker 4: Still, the mission statement of b YU as a university,
21:05
Speaker 4: and obviously from the football program's perspective, they want to
21:08
Speaker 4: make sure that they help people, you know, make the
21:12
Speaker 4: right decisions all through life and end up in the
21:14
Speaker 4: right environments all through life and things like that.
21:16
Speaker 2: So is there anything b YU.
21:17
Speaker 4: Football can do to help Pooka Akua with some of
21:20
Speaker 4: this off the field stuff?
21:22
Speaker 3: Hey, you know that Kilani and everybody's arms are open.
21:25
Speaker 3: Kugarnation loves loves Pooka, and anyone that knows him knows
21:29
Speaker 3: his intent is pure at heart, and he's a he's
21:34
Speaker 3: a good dude that's trying to do good in the world.
21:36
Speaker 3: And so to kind of see what he's done on
21:38
Speaker 3: the field, and we continue to wish him the best
21:41
Speaker 3: luck with everything because he nearly made the greatest catch
21:45
Speaker 3: I've ever seen in my life yesterday with the one hand,
21:49
Speaker 3: with the left hand.
21:50
Speaker 4: But I was, yeah, I was so sad to see
21:52
Speaker 4: the angle that showed the ball. I was like, because
21:57
Speaker 4: I like the seven different angles. I was like, is
22:00
Speaker 4: a catch. That's a catch. You can't take that away
22:02
Speaker 4: from that's a catch. And then you know, I hate
22:04
Speaker 4: when the referees are right, but in that case they
22:06
Speaker 4: were because of that one angle that showed it airborne
22:09
Speaker 4: as he was hitting the out of bounds.
22:12
Speaker 3: It's crazy, like with four fingers, you know, And he
22:14
Speaker 3: almost made top three catch in NFL history. Is crazy.
22:18
Speaker 3: I mean, it's funny that it went viral even though
22:20
Speaker 3: he did it. That's how popular he is.
22:23
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a different thing. I'm very, very excited to
22:27
Speaker 4: see what his contract ends up looking like when he
22:30
Speaker 4: becomes eligible for that extension of offseason.
22:33
Speaker 3: And how about how about Puka and Fred doing commercials
22:36
Speaker 3: together NFC West rivals, but BYU guys together. It's just
22:41
Speaker 3: it's just cool to see that those guys have thrived
22:44
Speaker 3: so much in the NFL.
22:45
Speaker 4: Well, it's truly remarkable. And you and I have talked
22:48
Speaker 4: about this in the past, but it's remarkable the sort
22:52
Speaker 4: of quality versus quantity representation that BYU has pulled off
22:57
Speaker 4: in recent years in the NFL, Because I think justifiably so,
23:01
Speaker 4: there was like some criticism and some angst like, hey,
23:04
Speaker 4: you know, we're not producing these the NFL guys, like
23:08
Speaker 4: even Bronco Mennenhall with a bunch of ten win seasons
23:11
Speaker 4: wasn't putting a ton of bodies into the NFL. But
23:14
Speaker 4: then it's like, okay, true, but look at what Kyle
23:17
Speaker 4: Vannoy's career has been, Look what Fred Warner's career has been.
23:20
Speaker 2: Look what Puka's doing right now. Taysom Hill.
23:24
Speaker 4: I mean, it's just like it's like one each year
23:28
Speaker 4: ends up being amazing.
23:30
Speaker 3: And let's be honest, if you have that guy versus
23:33
Speaker 3: you know, a bunch of just kind of backups, it's
23:35
Speaker 3: better to have the one. You have people that people know,
23:39
Speaker 3: they have their jerseys, like Puka's jersey is super popular. Yeah,
23:44
Speaker 3: that's what matters. And for you either hoping that Jack
23:47
Speaker 3: Kelly is that guy that makes an impact at the
23:49
Speaker 3: next level, and then you go beyond that and then
23:52
Speaker 3: you know, you hope you retain a politics thout to well,
23:55
Speaker 3: you hope he's the next Kyle Hamilton sixty five rangey
23:58
Speaker 3: safety in the NFL, that kind of a modern safety
24:01
Speaker 3: that can do it all. And ballhawk and the taller
24:04
Speaker 3: kind of Coola kind of guy speaking of. So yeah,
24:07
Speaker 3: it's uh, it's going really well from the Uyu and
24:10
Speaker 3: and you want more Ziggies and more uh you know,
24:13
Speaker 3: Taysom Hills and so on and so forth, tasoms unique.
24:16
Speaker 3: That's not a good example, and Ziggy isn't either because
24:18
Speaker 3: he's crazy different. But it's the Tyler Algiers and the
24:21
Speaker 3: Jamals and and they're getting these guys to the next
24:25
Speaker 3: level because that doesn't matter. Like they guys want to
24:27
Speaker 3: play in the NFL. And uh, they've they found that, Hey,
24:30
Speaker 3: come to b YU and you can be that. Maybe
24:32
Speaker 3: you're the next Fred, maybe you're the next book.
24:35
Speaker 4: Are you a New Year's resolution guy, Jerem.
24:38
Speaker 3: It's not really no, are you No?
24:42
Speaker 4: I'm not my uh my wife's family has a long
24:45
Speaker 4: standing tradition where you write down goals for the new year.
24:48
Speaker 4: It's like a thinly veiled resolution kind of thing, and then.
24:51
Speaker 2: You review them.
24:52
Speaker 4: After you write them down, you review them the following
24:54
Speaker 4: New Year's Eve, and uh, it's very sober to realize.
24:57
Speaker 2: That you accomplished not of your goals the previous year.
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Speaker 3: That's January eighteenth for me, rego.
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Speaker 2: What is that right now?
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Speaker 3: So absolutely, I always great to talk with you.
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