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Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Schrager is a production of the
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Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's up, Everybody, This is
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Speaker 1: Peter Schreger. This is the Season with Peter Schrager. We
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Speaker 1: were entering Week seven of the NFL season, and I
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Speaker 1: gotta tell you, Aaron, this was the most surprising of
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Speaker 1: weeks we've had this year. But it's just it's true
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Speaker 1: to form. This is the NFL any given Sunday. But
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Speaker 1: you saw the forty nine ers, who were unbeatable and
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Speaker 1: averaging a margin of victory of twenty points, lose in
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Speaker 1: Cleveland to a backup quarterback without Nick Chubb and without
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Speaker 1: Joel Patonio. You saw Jalen Hurts strut into met Life,
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Speaker 1: take an early lead and then throw three uncharacteristic interceptions
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Speaker 1: and lose to the Jets. And then you saw the
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Speaker 1: Detroit Lions go into Tampa, a team that everyone was
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Speaker 1: high on, and just absolutely whooped them and beat them
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Speaker 1: twenty to with Aman Rossing Brown having a career day
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Speaker 1: and those creamsicle uniforms just being splattered across that home field.
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Speaker 1: Fun fun week to get some unexpected results. We go
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Speaker 1: on to Week seven, but I wanted to start the
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Speaker 1: pod this week with a personal note, Aaron, are you
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Speaker 1: ready for me to reveal why I was away for
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Speaker 1: a couple of days in late August filming something in
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Speaker 1: Los Angeles.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we had to pay this off. This has been
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Speaker 2: a long time coming. This is a secret and we're
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Speaker 2: now getting the reveal.
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Speaker 1: So I get a call around August fifteenth from a
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Speaker 1: production company saying, is there any way you can get
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Speaker 1: off of Good Morning Football a week from now on
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Speaker 1: the Monday, last week of August, to which I said,
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Speaker 1: I'd need to know what the opportunity is. The answers
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Speaker 1: probably No Morning Football does really good ratings in August,
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Speaker 1: and the NFL network puts a lot of eggs in
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Speaker 1: the August basket because we're the only ones to show
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Speaker 1: all the preseason games. Ratings are high. So if it's
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Speaker 1: to you know, do a spot on a reality show
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Speaker 1: or gosh, if Gordon Ramsey wanted me to be a
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Speaker 1: guest judge on Kitchen Nightmares, the entest probably know. But
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Speaker 1: this one was special. The production company was representing a
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Speaker 1: certain show called Jeopardy. Aaron, no response. I'm waiting for nothing.
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Speaker 2: I'm waiting.
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Speaker 1: Details.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, So they represent Jeopardy, and there.
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Speaker 1: Was a writers strike going on, and there was an
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Speaker 1: actor strike going on. I think the term Celebrity Jeopardy
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Speaker 1: was being tossed around very loosely at this time in
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Speaker 1: Hollywood's They asked me if I wanted to come on
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Speaker 1: Celebrity Jeopardy and compete as a contestant on Celebrity Jeopardy.
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Speaker 1: Aaron my lovely producer and friend. We've known each other
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Speaker 1: now about a year, maybe a little bit more than
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Speaker 1: a year. I grew up a Jeopardy kid.
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Speaker 2: That makes total sense to me. No, no, you Your
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Speaker 2: ability to recall facts and numbers and names is uncanny,
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Speaker 2: and this feels like exactly the kind of thing that
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Speaker 2: you like. I don't know if you did trivial pursuit
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Speaker 2: as a kid, but I have a feeling like you
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Speaker 2: were in this from the beginning, and Jeopardy is like
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Speaker 2: one hundred percent makes sense.
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Speaker 3: I get it.
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Speaker 1: There was a TV in my kitchen as a kid,
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Speaker 1: and we would sit down for dinner at seven pm
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Speaker 1: every night in Freehold, New Jersey. The TV was about
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Speaker 1: the size of your laptop, and we'd sit at a table.
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Speaker 1: There'd be a little counter and then the TV was
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Speaker 1: on and my family family four. Wasn't much discussion about
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Speaker 1: our feelings. Wasn't much discussion about how our vulnerabilities are
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Speaker 1: and our failures and our strengths. It was more just
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Speaker 1: be quiet, let's listen to Drabek and then if dinner
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Speaker 1: goes on long enough, we might get a little wheel also.
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Speaker 1: I mean that's basically what it was. Every night, seven pm,
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Speaker 1: Trebec Jeopardy Old school, and then my brother and I
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Speaker 1: would would retire from the kitchen and we would go retire.
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Speaker 1: We'd go to something called the computer room, which kids
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Speaker 1: these days don't even know what that is, but it
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Speaker 1: was the room where there was a computer. And we
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Speaker 1: had a Commodore sixty four and eventually I think in
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Speaker 1: Apple pe or was Apple two? E? Is that what
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Speaker 1: it was? I have? Yeah, I'm sorry, east ms Okay.
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Speaker 1: The Commodore sixty four was an old computer. Then we
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Speaker 1: graduated to the Apple two, and then eventually we got
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Speaker 1: a Dell and if you know what Dell is, it
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Speaker 1: was like I got a Dell dude, like the Dell guy,
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Speaker 1: and we would play Jeopardy on the computer. Like I
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Speaker 1: didn't play Mario. I didn't play Tetris. We played Jeopardy
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Speaker 1: and it was like a pixelated version of Jeopardy on
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Speaker 1: a floppy disc and it was all sorts of characters.
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Speaker 1: And then they would eventually come out with Sports jepard
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Speaker 1: and I would play Sports Jeopardy. So when I get
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Speaker 1: the call to compete on Jeopardy, not only do I
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Speaker 1: not ask my employers out of the gates, I just
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Speaker 1: say yes. And I'm like, well, who wants the book
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Speaker 1: to flight? Like I'm going I'll lose my job, Like
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Speaker 1: I don't, I'm going like I'm doing this. Fortunately I
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Speaker 1: did ask our employers. They were cool enough to let
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Speaker 1: me miss a show. I think I got that vacation
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Speaker 1: day docked on the back end, But that's another conversation.
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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that at some other date. That said
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Speaker 1: I was in but I was told I couldn't say
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Speaker 1: a word. So here I am, and there's so many
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Speaker 1: things I have to go through, but I with no
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Speaker 1: further do. I will tell you the air date when
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Speaker 1: it is airing is next Wednesday, October twenty fifth, my
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Speaker 1: episode of Celebrity Jeopardy where I am a contestant, and
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Speaker 1: it will air at I believe eight o'clock Eastern, not
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Speaker 1: even that seven o'clock garbage that we usually see it on.
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Speaker 1: This is primetime, baby, and it's celebrity Jeopardy. I'm loud
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Speaker 1: to tell you who I went against, and I'll tell
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Speaker 1: you the story of how I've found out who these
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Speaker 1: people were. So they don't tell you who you're against.
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Speaker 1: You show up. Now. Let me ask you if you
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Speaker 1: fly in on a Sunday for a Monday filming of
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Speaker 1: Jeopardy and you found out a couple of days earlier,
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Speaker 1: you'd probably want to prepare somehow, right, right, right, So Aaron,
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Speaker 1: I ask you, if you were told in eight days
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Speaker 1: you're going on Jeopardy, how would you prepare? I had
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Speaker 1: no idea.
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Speaker 2: I don't know how I would prepare if I was
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Speaker 2: told in a year you're going on Jeopardy.
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Speaker 1: There's no way to prepare for Jeopardy. You either know
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Speaker 1: this stuff or not. And a lot of it's like,
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Speaker 1: you know, we's say white men can't jump, like words
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Speaker 1: that start with the letter Q. Like, it's a lot
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Speaker 1: of it is puns and a lot of it is homonyms.
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Speaker 1: So here's my thing. I'm like, I'm gonna fly out.
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Speaker 1: I'm on delta. They've got wi Fi. I am gonna
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Speaker 1: just take a look at the main thing. State capitals,
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Speaker 1: smart geometry, like hexagon, rahmbus, I'm getting down octagon, US presidents.
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Speaker 1: I'm pretty good on them. But then when I looked
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Speaker 1: at the Wikipedia page, I was not good on them.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, they better not anything from the year seventeen
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Speaker 1: eighty to nineteen ninety. Like I thought I had it.
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Speaker 4: I didn't.
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Speaker 1: I didn't know about Fillmore's thing, and I didn't want
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Speaker 1: to go into it. Then I was like, okay, world history,
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Speaker 1: world capitals, Olympic cities, like these are the things that like,
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Speaker 1: I'm a little so.
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Speaker 2: So just to be clear, on your flight to LA,
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Speaker 2: you study geometry, state capitals, presidents, world history. This is
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Speaker 2: a large list of things.
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Speaker 1: All right. I have a photographic memory. I could see
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Speaker 1: something and never forget it. So I'm like, if I
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Speaker 1: just look at these things, I'll just have it in
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Speaker 1: the back of my head, and you know, one of
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Speaker 1: them will come up. I can tell you, rest assured,
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Speaker 1: none of them. Seven hours seven hours on a flight.
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Speaker 1: It's like Scott Hanson some hours studying everything. All right,
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Speaker 1: So let me finish, let me get to the next thing.
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Speaker 1: So I'm studying. I'm nervous, but then I'm like bored,
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Speaker 1: Like I'm on the flight and I'm like, so I
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Speaker 1: think I watched Like I think I watched like remember
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Speaker 1: the Fableman's Instead was that.
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Speaker 4: What it was called?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I liked it, But like I gave up really
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Speaker 1: quickly in the studying. I was like ancient egypt facts
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Speaker 1: fell asleep, literally fell asleep. I'm like, I'm screwed. I
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Speaker 1: can't just like study the world. I don't know, I
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Speaker 1: can't do it. I land and they put me up
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Speaker 1: in a hotel in an area of LA called Culver City.
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Speaker 1: Culver City's where the NFL network used to be. I
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Speaker 1: don't know anything about it, but I'm like, all right,
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Speaker 1: I see there's a Roberto's Pizza there. They have one
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Speaker 1: of those in Brooklyn. I'm like, all right, I'll go
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Speaker 1: there for dinner. I get to Culver City and it's
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Speaker 1: the only time it's ever rained in the history of LA.
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Speaker 1: I think it's pouring rain, and then they're freaking out
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Speaker 1: that there's gonna be a hurricane. So now I've got
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Speaker 1: the stress of all right, I'm in a hurricane in
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Speaker 1: La which you know, They're the kind of city where
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Speaker 1: there's like a newscaster out there when it drizzles, and
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Speaker 1: it's like, what, the city's shut down, so everyone's freaking out.
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Speaker 1: I get to the hotel room and I again, I'm like,
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Speaker 1: do I study? Then there's three season football on. I'm like,
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Speaker 1: I want to look up Cumulus and Mbius or whatever
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Speaker 1: that is, you know. And all of a sudden, an
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Speaker 1: alarm clock that's next to the hotel room starts shaking
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Speaker 1: and falls off the nightstand, Like what the hell? And
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Speaker 1: then I see the TV's shit earthquake, a freaking earthquake.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, a hurricane and an earthquake the Sunday that
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Speaker 1: I arrive in La to do Celebrity Jeopardy the following day.
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Speaker 1: You can't make this stuff up. I decide to uh
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Speaker 1: just you know, just buckle down, go to sleep. And
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Speaker 1: then they're like, all right, your call time is two pm.
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Speaker 1: Call time for those of you in the uh not
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Speaker 1: in the entertainment business like me. I mean that's when
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Speaker 1: you've got to show up two pm. So I have
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Speaker 1: all I'm on East Coast time. I wake up at
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Speaker 1: like four point thirty wired coffee, Let's go sonny as
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Speaker 1: could be. I walked to some place like a long walk,
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Speaker 1: have breakfast. It was delicious, walk back and I'm like
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Speaker 1: just studying on my phone, like Wikipedia facts and looking
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Speaker 1: at like world leaders and facts about Bonaparte, and then
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Speaker 1: like World War two battles, like I'm doing it. I'm trying.
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Speaker 1: All this stuff was irrelevant. I then am like, all right,
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Speaker 1: thinking about it NonStop, nervous. I get to the Sony
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Speaker 1: lot where they're filming Jeopardy.
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Speaker 2: Still don't know who you're against?
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Speaker 1: No, okay, and I walk in and they're filming the
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Speaker 1: episode before me. Okay, and I'm watching it from like
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Speaker 1: a small TV and the episode before me was, huh,
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Speaker 1: who was it? It was? I think I can give
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Speaker 1: it away. I don't know if it's released. Yeah, okay.
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Speaker 1: Brian Baumgartner from the Office who played Kevin, you know,
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Speaker 1: spilling the chili Kevin, who's a Packers fan. We should
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Speaker 1: have him on the podcast. He's good. You might need
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Speaker 1: to google this. Abbott Elementary Lisa Ann Walter, who was
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Speaker 1: very nice. And then the third was I want to
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Speaker 1: say Jonah from Deep Timothy Simon's yep, tall guy, funny
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Speaker 1: as hell. That's the trio before me, and I'm watching
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Speaker 1: their match, and as I'm watching it, they're like, all right,
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Speaker 1: we're gonna take you to your trailer. I've never been
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Speaker 1: in a trailer before. Celebrity here. Hello. Meanwhile, I think
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Speaker 1: last year nothing against those actors or me, but like
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Speaker 1: last year was like Martin Short versus Jimmy Kimble versus
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Speaker 1: Meryl Streep, and now it's like me, good morning football
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Speaker 1: host Peter Sugar on a cable. I'm not knocking it.
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Speaker 1: I was very flattered and I'm honored to be there again.
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Speaker 1: Writers strike, acting strike me. I pop into my trailer
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Speaker 1: and they've got a thermis that says Celebrity Jeopardy. I'm like,
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Speaker 1: can I keep this? They're like yes. I'm like, hell yeah.
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Speaker 1: They've got a T shirt that says Celebrity Jeopardy. I'm like,
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Speaker 1: can I keep this? They're like yeah. And then they
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Speaker 1: had like all these snacks. I did damage before I
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Speaker 1: went on Jeopardy. I was so nervous. I think I
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Speaker 1: had an entire cheese plate. I think they had proscrudo,
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Speaker 1: they had capacola, they had some gba ghoul I ate
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Speaker 1: it all. I had a full meat and cheese plate
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Speaker 1: before I even stepped on to that thing. And then
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Speaker 1: they're like, all right, put on a suit. I put
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Speaker 1: on a suit. I'm ready, and they're like, all right,
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Speaker 1: we want to take you to makeup. Get to makeup.
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Speaker 1: Really good looking guy is waiting for their makeup and
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Speaker 1: he's not in a suit. He's in like a cool
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Speaker 1: like satin jacket with like his muscles out, and I'm like,
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Speaker 1: who's this guy. They're like, meet Adam Rodriguez. He's he
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Speaker 1: was from CSI Miami. He's also in the Magic Mic films.
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Speaker 1: And now I want to say he's in Criminal Minds.
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Speaker 1: You might need to do a little resume search for me,
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Speaker 1: a little Wikipedia, if you will. We've given Wikipedia enough
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Speaker 1: love and Cee, I asked one.
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Speaker 2: Of those like a CCSI Miami Magic like one and
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Speaker 2: double XL and Criminal Minds.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. So, and Adam's like, right away, like the most
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Speaker 1: handsome person I've ever seen. He's a little bit older
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Speaker 1: than me. He's uh, he's competing against me. He's from Yonkers.
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Speaker 1: So immediately we start talking New York and he's like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: my best friend from high school and like, my best
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Speaker 1: man at my wedding played in the NFL. I'm like, oh, who,
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Speaker 1: and he's like Keith Bullock. I'm like, oh, Syracuse legend,
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Speaker 1: Keith Bullen, Tennessee Titans, and like my Jeopardy mind because
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Speaker 1: I was like, yes, yes, He's like, yes, that's him.
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Speaker 1: I'm like thirteen tackles in one game playing against the
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Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars in nineteen eighty nine. He's like yeah, dude,
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Speaker 1: yeah yeah. So we're hanging a little bit and then
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Speaker 1: in comes our third contestant. I don't know who it's
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Speaker 1: gonna be, and I see her face and I'm like, oh,
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Speaker 1: I know exactly who that is. And there's no way
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Speaker 1: that I am playing against this person in Celebrity Jeopardy
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Speaker 1: because I also know she went to Harvard is like
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Speaker 1: mensa and like works for the United Nations. Mere Cervino,
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Speaker 1: the actress who was in Roby and Michelle's Course and
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Speaker 1: then won an oscar. What was the Rudy Allen movie
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Speaker 1: she won the oscar for with her and Michael Rappaport
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Speaker 1: and Woody U great movie. Look it up, Mere Servino.
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Speaker 1: This is what we do on the podcast. I just
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Speaker 1: come in out of his fire at aeron Mighty Afrodite
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Speaker 1: Mighty Afred Diity Very good movie nineteen nineties, Woody Allen.
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Speaker 1: She I think was either nominated or won an Oscar
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Speaker 1: for that role as Best Supporting Actress. She's fantastic in it,
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Speaker 1: and I have since watched it since did she win
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Speaker 1: Best support She supporting her father, the late Paul Cervino,
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Speaker 1: who of course is in Goodfellas as the top of
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Speaker 1: the family. And you know he's in prison and he's
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Speaker 1: slicing the onions whatever it is anyway, garlic or onions.
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Speaker 1: I forget.
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Speaker 2: I guess that wasn't one of the questions. No, yes, yeah,
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Speaker 2: they didn't ask about her father.
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Speaker 1: So we get out there and they tell me hand
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Speaker 1: me over your phone. No phone's allowed in the studio.
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Speaker 1: A because of the sancity of the quiz show and
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Speaker 1: the laws, and B. I think there's a certain magic
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Speaker 1: and a lord in that place. But Aaron, when I
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Speaker 1: tell you, it felt like walking into like you know,
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Speaker 1: picturing field of dreams in the corn stalks of Iowa,
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Speaker 1: and shoeless Joe comes walking out there, like that's what
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Speaker 1: I felt like, walking into this thing. They have you
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Speaker 1: write your name into the thing. Don't you always think like,
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Speaker 1: how would I write my name on Jeopardy, I went
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Speaker 1: all caps lock. But that was pretty cool, okay, and
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Speaker 1: I didn't go with Schrager or Shrags or with Peter,
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Speaker 1: just my first name, you know. I felt pretty good
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Speaker 1: about that. And then they do a full round practice
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Speaker 1: like warm up, warm up, You've got to get down.
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Speaker 5: The buzzer and here is the big reveal. The buzzer
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Speaker 5: is everything. So here's how it works. With the buzzer,
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Speaker 5: they'll say a facto. I'd say number one.
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Speaker 1: iHeart podcast in NFL Slash really trying hard to get
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Speaker 1: to the super Bowl and doing a live show from there.
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Speaker 1: And you have to buzz in right away. But you
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Speaker 1: have to buzz in after Ken Jennings finishes. Okay, you
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Speaker 1: cannot buzz before it. If you if you buzz in
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Speaker 1: before he's finished with the clue, you're doc two seconds.
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Speaker 1: You're locked out. And so when you see people hitting
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Speaker 1: that buzzer like no, no, no, no, no, no, doing the
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Speaker 1: buzzer like that's because they're locked out. They're like, wait,
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Speaker 1: why is it not working? Why is that not working?
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Speaker 1: So timing on the butzer is everything, and you can't
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Speaker 1: practice that at home. You can know all the factoids.
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Speaker 1: You could tell me all of you know, King Henry's
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Speaker 1: wives or whoever it is, and you could know everything
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Speaker 1: about you know, Guadalajara. It doesn't matter if you can't
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Speaker 1: get that buzzer in on time and time and right.
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Speaker 2: So it's like anticipating how long it takes him to
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Speaker 2: finish his sentence. Yeah, and then buzz oh.
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Speaker 1: We go through the practice round Sorveno's got it down.
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Speaker 1: Her buzzer skills are insane. We go through a practice round.
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Speaker 1: She's what is Kim john Oun? What is Polio's string cheese?
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Speaker 1: What is remember the Titans?
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Speaker 3: Like?
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Speaker 1: She is on it? I'm psyched out. I needed like
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Speaker 1: a moment, so I think I was the first person ever.
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Speaker 1: They were like, we're about to start, everybody. I said,
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Speaker 1: can I take a pepe break? I went and I
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Speaker 1: got microphone off. I had to just take some time.
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Speaker 1: I didn't even have to go to the bathroom. I
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Speaker 1: took a lap around that studio. I soaked it all
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Speaker 1: in and then I straddled up and said let's go.
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Speaker 1: And then we did Celebrity Jeopardy and Guys It airs
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Speaker 1: next week. I will give you no more clues, no
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Speaker 1: more hints. Let's just say me and Mire Cervino and
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Speaker 1: Adam Rodriguez had a clash for the ages and I
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Speaker 1: want you to watch. I encourage you to watch. And
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Speaker 1: with no further ado, let's get to our guest today.
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Speaker 1: Aaron Our guest today is the defensive coordinator of the
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Speaker 1: Cincinnati He is one of the best coaches in all
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Speaker 1: of football. He's been running this unit for some time now,
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Speaker 1: and he's got a story to tell Lou and Aroumo
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Speaker 1: right after this, with no further ado. He's one of
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Speaker 1: the top defensive minds in all of football. He's also
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Speaker 1: a fantastic coach, and his team is coming off a
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Speaker 1: triumphant Sunday and a big win against a very good
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Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks team. It is Cincinnati Bengals defensive coordinator Lou
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Speaker 1: and Aromo. Lou, Welcome to the season with Peter scheger Man.
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Speaker 4: I'm happy to be here. Appreciate the introduction.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and let's start with Sunday. Four sacks, eight tackles
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Speaker 1: for a loss, two interceptions, DK Metcalf and Camp Taylor
18:51
Speaker 1: getting into it a little bit, a little spicy. It
18:53
Speaker 1: was a must win for the Cincinnati Bengals and the
18:55
Speaker 1: defense led the way. How did your unit get into
18:58
Speaker 1: this one? And what was the approach as you saw
19:00
Speaker 1: it all being executed on Sunday.
19:02
Speaker 4: So it was you know, didn't start out great.
19:03
Speaker 3: You know, they did a good jot with taking the
19:05
Speaker 3: ball going right down the field, and you can see,
19:08
Speaker 3: you know, the bye week they had a buy prior
19:11
Speaker 3: to coming in, so there's a couple of new wrinkles
19:13
Speaker 3: for them. But once we settled in, you know, that
19:15
Speaker 3: was the only touchdown they scored in the game. And
19:18
Speaker 3: you know, our guys just executed in the red zone
19:20
Speaker 3: and as you mentioned, you know, our our front four
19:23
Speaker 3: really really did a great job pressure in Gino and
19:26
Speaker 3: it paid off in the end.
19:27
Speaker 1: Talk us through some of these players on this unit,
19:29
Speaker 1: because I think it from a national perspective, they were
19:31
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl a couple of years ago, but
19:33
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of i would say not a
19:36
Speaker 1: youth movement in the back end. But like at that
19:38
Speaker 1: Super Bowl team, it was Von Bell, it was Eli Apple,
19:41
Speaker 1: it was and now there's these young guys. I mentioned
19:44
Speaker 1: Taylor Brett, but he's not the only one.
19:45
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, you know, we got rookie DJ Turner. You know,
19:49
Speaker 3: cheetoh Wuzier has been injured and DJ's come in and
19:53
Speaker 3: you know, getting better with each game. We signed Nick
19:56
Speaker 3: Scott free agency from the Rams, and then as a
19:59
Speaker 3: safety and Dax Hill playing another taking really Jesse Bates'
20:03
Speaker 3: role he stepped in, and then Jordan Battle or rookie,
20:07
Speaker 3: another rookie from Alabama. So you know, I don't have
20:10
Speaker 3: a lot of gray hair, but I'm getting some more each.
20:12
Speaker 1: Other, right, I mean that is that the is that
20:14
Speaker 1: still the challenge that gets see up in the morning.
20:16
Speaker 1: They're like, all right, we have a new fresh fresh
20:17
Speaker 1: blood and we've got to throw them in there. And
20:19
Speaker 1: guess what you're covering? Tyler Lockett, go, do you get
20:21
Speaker 1: excited by that? Is that the challenge that gets you
20:23
Speaker 1: out of bed in the morning.
20:24
Speaker 3: The good news is, you know they definitely present challenge.
20:28
Speaker 4: You know these guys.
20:28
Speaker 3: It's just so different for the young guys coming in
20:31
Speaker 3: from college these days, and you know, so yeah, it provides, uh,
20:35
Speaker 3: it provides us more opportunity to make sure we're as
20:38
Speaker 3: coaches staying on you know, dotting our eyes, crossing the.
20:41
Speaker 4: T's all that stuff.
20:42
Speaker 3: Because it's such a different game and you're playing against
20:45
Speaker 3: guys that have done it for a long time. You
20:47
Speaker 3: mentioned Tyler Lockett and DK Metcalf and man Cam you know,
20:51
Speaker 3: kind of you know, took it to him, and I
20:53
Speaker 3: was happy and proud to see it.
20:55
Speaker 1: This this Bengals team again oh to two to start.
20:59
Speaker 1: Everyone's saying they're done. Burrow can't move, and yet here
21:03
Speaker 1: we are bye week three and three. What do you
21:06
Speaker 1: know in the driver's seat, just like they usually are
21:08
Speaker 1: at this point and feeling a little bit better than
21:10
Speaker 1: they did in September? Did you have any doubts or
21:13
Speaker 1: you knew that this team could bounce back despite the
21:15
Speaker 1: O and two start.
21:16
Speaker 3: I mean, we've got such great resolve with the players
21:19
Speaker 3: that we have. You know, I kind of stole a
21:22
Speaker 3: phrase that the my my beloved Yankees we used to
21:27
Speaker 3: use and you know, the Core four, you know, And
21:30
Speaker 3: and it came to play this weekend where it's the
21:32
Speaker 3: last drive of the game and I go over the
21:35
Speaker 3: BJ Hill, DJ Reader, Sam Hubbard and Trey Hendrickson and
21:40
Speaker 3: I and they were gassed now at the end of
21:42
Speaker 3: the game, and I said, you know, I was thinking
21:44
Speaker 3: about for a minute putting some fresh legs in there.
21:46
Speaker 3: And I checked myself quick and said, you four want.
21:51
Speaker 3: I don't want anybody else in the game besides you guys,
21:53
Speaker 3: and let's go win the game.
21:54
Speaker 4: And they did what they did.
21:56
Speaker 3: And those guys are kind of are they They drive
21:59
Speaker 3: this ship on our side, and man, they didn't flinch
22:02
Speaker 3: in the beginning of the year. You know, again with
22:05
Speaker 3: the great veteran leadership that they have, they know who
22:07
Speaker 3: we are, they know what we've done and what we've
22:09
Speaker 3: accomplished at you know, a high level, and it's just
22:12
Speaker 3: a matter of time before we put it all together.
22:14
Speaker 1: That's your Jorge Pisada, You're Mariano Rivera, you're Jeter, and
22:18
Speaker 1: you're who is the last one?
22:20
Speaker 3: Bernie?
22:20
Speaker 1: I would imagine, or do we go Tino Martinez?
22:22
Speaker 3: Bernie?
22:22
Speaker 1: Right, It's got to be Bernie. It's not it's who
22:25
Speaker 1: is it? Who's the fourth? It's Pettit, Pettit Okay, Bernie
22:29
Speaker 1: was before them. Bernie like, okay, got it.
22:32
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was surprised when I looked it back up.
22:34
Speaker 1: That's the core four. I think of Sam Hubbard. He's
22:37
Speaker 1: like such a local guy and he represents everything about
22:40
Speaker 1: this Bengals team and whether it be the Ohio state
22:42
Speaker 1: roots at Cincinnati roots and the play he made last
22:45
Speaker 1: year in the Wildcar Round is really the play that
22:47
Speaker 1: most people know him from. But every day this guy
22:49
Speaker 1: brings it. And I watch football, I don't. I'm not
22:51
Speaker 1: sure everyone outside of Cincinnati knows just what type of
22:54
Speaker 1: player and man that Sam Hubbard is.
22:56
Speaker 3: For that defense, well, he's terrific when they introduce him here,
22:59
Speaker 3: when they do introduce the defense, you know, and the
23:02
Speaker 3: guy the public address announcer starts with Cincinnati's own, you know,
23:05
Speaker 3: and then Sam Harbor and he is what we are
23:09
Speaker 3: as you mentioned. I mean, the guy played sixty four
23:12
Speaker 3: plays the other day, had a ton of production, hit
23:16
Speaker 3: the quarterback six times, you know, and just a great
23:19
Speaker 3: He's been a great run defender for us for years.
23:22
Speaker 3: He's got a you know, a heck of a pass
23:23
Speaker 3: rush game. So he's everything we're all about. And you know,
23:26
Speaker 3: you go back to the AFC Championship game two years ago,
23:30
Speaker 3: and you know he's the one that's kind of getting
23:32
Speaker 3: after Mahomes on that crucial third down stop to force
23:37
Speaker 3: them to kick the field goal to get in to
23:40
Speaker 3: get in overtime and eventually win the game. So Sam,
23:43
Speaker 3: Sam's done so much for us and a great community guy,
23:46
Speaker 3: and we just love him.
23:48
Speaker 1: We're gonna go backwards, We're gonna go through your career
23:50
Speaker 1: a little bit. But let's let's go just a couple
23:52
Speaker 1: of years backwards. That Super Bowl run and then the
23:54
Speaker 1: AFC Championship run. When you got to Cincinnati, it was
23:58
Speaker 1: it was you, Zach, and it was obviously Callahan is
24:00
Speaker 1: the offhys like things were not things were not humming,
24:03
Speaker 1: if by any means, And of course there had been
24:05
Speaker 1: some good seasons, but no wins, playoffs, nothing in recent years.
24:09
Speaker 1: Take us back just the last i would say, twenty
24:11
Speaker 1: four months, and just how far this franchise has come
24:14
Speaker 1: in the last couple of years alone.
24:16
Speaker 3: Well, we're you know, as you mentioned, Zach and Cally
24:19
Speaker 3: just doing such a great job and on respective you know,
24:22
Speaker 3: Zach as the head coach and Brian is the coordinator
24:24
Speaker 3: on offense. But it's so satisfying as a coach and
24:30
Speaker 3: some of the players that have been here from the
24:31
Speaker 3: beginning when we got here in twenty nineteen, and as
24:34
Speaker 3: you mentioned, you know, Marvin had done a great job
24:37
Speaker 3: and had really good success, and we just we the
24:42
Speaker 3: team that we inherited a little bit older. You know,
24:45
Speaker 3: we knew we had to turn the roster over to
24:47
Speaker 3: a degree, and those guys had done great things here
24:50
Speaker 3: for Cincinnati, and we just knew that, you know, it's
24:54
Speaker 3: our time to get some new guys in here and
24:57
Speaker 3: to go through that whole thing. And you know, first
25:00
Speaker 3: playoff win in thirty some odd years and then oh,
25:03
Speaker 3: by the way, you get the first road playoff win
25:06
Speaker 3: in team history ever, all those firsts.
25:09
Speaker 4: You're just very, very proud to be a part of it.
25:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's and I love, I'm so proud of you.
25:15
Speaker 1: It's happy for your unit, as you guys have always
25:17
Speaker 1: held up your end of the bargain. Let's go back
25:21
Speaker 1: your coaching journey nineteen eighty nine. We go to the
25:24
Speaker 1: fine borough of Staten Island and the running backs coach
25:28
Speaker 1: at Wagner is lou and Arimo. What led you to Wagner?
25:33
Speaker 1: And I know you're a Staten Island guy, So just
25:34
Speaker 1: take us through how you even thought that this could
25:37
Speaker 1: possibly be a career coming from Staten Islands. It's not
25:40
Speaker 1: exactly a football hotbit, if I may say so.
25:43
Speaker 4: No, you're good.
25:45
Speaker 3: Just you know, my dad was a high school basketball
25:50
Speaker 3: coach growing up, so it was always kind of around it.
25:52
Speaker 3: He played college basketball at Wagner and was a principal
25:55
Speaker 3: and kind of so I always knew I wanted to
25:57
Speaker 3: teach and coach, and then one thing led to another.
26:01
Speaker 3: You know, I never had a great stellar career playing wise,
26:05
Speaker 3: but I always knew I still wanted to be around it,
26:08
Speaker 3: and one thing led to another. I got my first
26:11
Speaker 3: big break when you know, Dick McPherson called and I
26:14
Speaker 3: was able to be a GA at Syracuse where I
26:19
Speaker 3: worked for coach Mac and then coached Pascaloni, and kind
26:22
Speaker 3: of everything gone from there was just you know, a
26:25
Speaker 3: step I thought. I think I went about it the
26:27
Speaker 3: right way. I've coached at all levels, you know, from
26:30
Speaker 3: Marshall to Harvard to Purdue, you know, and then onto
26:32
Speaker 3: the NFL. So great, great experiences along the way, and
26:36
Speaker 3: I think that that's one of the things that I
26:39
Speaker 3: think is a missing art these days, where you know,
26:43
Speaker 3: you learn more what not to do along the way
26:45
Speaker 3: and how to coach different types of people all along
26:48
Speaker 3: the way, whether it be a non scholarship player or
26:51
Speaker 3: an elite athlete in the NFL. So I feel like
26:54
Speaker 3: I got the best of all worlds, and I wouldn't
26:56
Speaker 3: change my career path for anything.
26:58
Speaker 1: I love it. And so you go from Wagner Tocus
27:00
Speaker 1: and then this is a cool one US Merchant Marine
27:04
Speaker 1: Academy as a defensive coordinator to defensive backs coach. Those
27:07
Speaker 1: are young men and women who are going there for
27:10
Speaker 1: a different reason than to become NFL players. And yet
27:12
Speaker 1: you as a coach, you're going to get the best
27:14
Speaker 1: of them, and you're going to see a probably different
27:15
Speaker 1: type of individual than you might anywhere else. What was
27:18
Speaker 1: that experience like coaching at the US Merchant Marine Academy.
27:21
Speaker 3: It was unbelievable because these guys are not only going
27:23
Speaker 3: through training camp, but they're also going through what they
27:26
Speaker 3: call their pleab year, where they're square in corners and
27:30
Speaker 3: you know, getting up at dawn to go for runs.
27:33
Speaker 3: And you know, by the way, you don't have those
27:35
Speaker 3: guys in the offseason because they're going out to see
27:37
Speaker 3: for six months to learn the what they're going to
27:39
Speaker 3: do come on as a career and oh, by the way,
27:42
Speaker 3: we want a bunch of games, you know, So again
27:44
Speaker 3: you learn how to manage your time, manage those type
27:47
Speaker 3: of people that have a you know, a greater goal really,
27:51
Speaker 3: but at the end of the day. They when football
27:53
Speaker 3: season came around, that's what they were all about. It
27:55
Speaker 3: was really really unique.
27:57
Speaker 1: You know, the experience of being there. I remember talking
28:00
Speaker 1: to I forget which player it was, someone came out
28:02
Speaker 1: of the Citadel and was playing in the NFL. And
28:04
Speaker 1: of course we have our Army and our Navy guys,
28:05
Speaker 1: but there is something different about coaching those young men
28:09
Speaker 1: and women because, like I said, the priority is of
28:12
Speaker 1: course football when you're on the field, but there is
28:14
Speaker 1: such a different thing going on. Did you have to
28:17
Speaker 1: bend and kind of adjust your coaching style knowing that, yes,
28:22
Speaker 1: they might be disciplined, but this is not their top priority.
28:25
Speaker 1: Is why they're here at school?
28:26
Speaker 4: Well, one hundred percent.
28:27
Speaker 3: I was a super I was super young back then,
28:29
Speaker 3: just learning how I was going to you know, become
28:32
Speaker 3: as a coach. And again, as I mentioned earlier, you
28:35
Speaker 3: learned so much of you know, the things you want
28:37
Speaker 3: to do.
28:37
Speaker 4: And then well, maybe.
28:39
Speaker 3: We can't quite do as much with guys that, you know,
28:43
Speaker 3: just coming from Syracuse, we had all these great defenses,
28:45
Speaker 3: but you know, you're getting these guys in between their
28:48
Speaker 3: you know, engineering classes and trying to install a game
28:52
Speaker 3: plan is very challenging.
28:55
Speaker 4: Same thing at Harvard.
28:56
Speaker 3: You know when I coached at Harvard for all those years,
28:58
Speaker 3: and I still stay in touch with a bunch of
29:00
Speaker 3: those guys, and we had really good players there. You
29:02
Speaker 3: know Matt Burke who played NFL Vikings for a long time, Ravens. Yeah,
29:08
Speaker 3: you know, so we had a bunch of guys while
29:10
Speaker 3: I was there. I just missed fits he had just
29:14
Speaker 3: after me. But again, another situation where I'll never forget.
29:17
Speaker 3: I'm in a in a meeting, in a defensive back meeting,
29:20
Speaker 3: and I think I said, you know, this stuff isn't
29:21
Speaker 3: rocket science. And I was like thinking to myself, like
29:23
Speaker 3: anybody here like doing any of that kind.
29:29
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I kind of am coach. I was like, oh,
29:33
Speaker 4: gate so cool, cool stuff for sure.
29:37
Speaker 1: Okay, So I live in New York and I'm a
29:39
Speaker 1: huge comedy nerd. And Colin Jost is the head writer
29:42
Speaker 1: for Saturday Night Live. He's a Staten Island native and
29:45
Speaker 1: he went to Harvard as and was a part of
29:48
Speaker 1: the Lampoon all that. I have to think, you too
29:50
Speaker 1: might be the only pipeline of Staten Island to Harvard.
29:54
Speaker 1: What's it like when you get plopped in to that
29:56
Speaker 1: Harvard and you're all of a sudden with world dignitaries
29:59
Speaker 1: and you're in that kind of Was that an adjustment
30:01
Speaker 1: going to the Ivy League and dealing with that for
30:03
Speaker 1: what six years you were there?
30:05
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.
30:06
Speaker 3: It was quite the adjustment, especially going on some of
30:08
Speaker 3: those home visits.
30:09
Speaker 4: Uh, you know, all over the country. It was great.
30:12
Speaker 3: Again, another great experience because I got to nationally recruit
30:16
Speaker 3: as a young coach where which helped me out later on.
30:19
Speaker 3: And uh, you know you're going all over the place
30:21
Speaker 3: and you're meeting all types of different people, and yeah,
30:25
Speaker 3: it was.
30:25
Speaker 4: It was walking around the.
30:27
Speaker 3: Hallowed halls of Harvard as a Staten Island guy was
30:30
Speaker 3: pretty cool.
30:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, you go to Marshall for several I guess that's
30:34
Speaker 1: during the Leftoo years. I guess you were at Marshall. Yeah.
30:37
Speaker 3: Byron was a quarterback. We we won a ton of games.
30:40
Speaker 3: I was on the sideline when they carried him down.
30:43
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.
30:44
Speaker 3: It was I don't know, minus twelve in the Rubber
30:47
Speaker 3: Bowl against the Akron that day. I mean it was
30:50
Speaker 3: freezing and you know Byron. It just tells you all
30:53
Speaker 3: about Byron, what what kind of he was about to
30:55
Speaker 3: be a top ten pick in the draft, and I'll
30:57
Speaker 3: never forget. They asked him after the game, they said, hey,
31:02
Speaker 3: you know, you know, weren't you worried about your family
31:04
Speaker 3: and and what's about to come?
31:06
Speaker 4: He goes, my family was out on the field.
31:08
Speaker 1: Yes, answer, I was Byron.
31:10
Speaker 3: Leftwich to a T and I love Byron Hill today.
31:13
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Then Purdue and you're stacking up years and
31:17
Speaker 1: years years, and then there's a call twenty twelve Miami Dolphins.
31:23
Speaker 1: Who made the call? How'd that come about? And then
31:26
Speaker 1: after putting in decades at the college level, what made
31:29
Speaker 1: you finally take the leap to get into the big leagues?
31:31
Speaker 3: So it's it's it had always been a goal, you know,
31:35
Speaker 3: all the years in college. I uh, you know, I
31:37
Speaker 3: would always go visit NFL places. I would come to Cincinnati.
31:40
Speaker 3: Kevin Coyle was a friend, and I would come here
31:42
Speaker 3: and see see those guys with Zim and Marvin. You know,
31:46
Speaker 3: I made had an interview. I wasn't ready to get
31:49
Speaker 3: the job, probably in two thousand and four or five,
31:52
Speaker 3: with Money kiffing down in Tampa to be the coach. Yeah,
31:55
Speaker 3: and money and I a lot of my stuff. You know,
31:57
Speaker 3: the the u our stuff, I should say, the core
32:01
Speaker 3: stuff of the fundamentals of just playing football. You know,
32:04
Speaker 3: got a chance to talk to Moni for years, used
32:06
Speaker 3: to come after that became good friends and talking ball,
32:09
Speaker 3: and that was a great experience. John was the head coach,
32:13
Speaker 3: and Rich Basaca was in the room, Joe Barry was
32:15
Speaker 3: in the room. So a lot of guys that you know,
32:18
Speaker 3: people know and again another great experience. But yeah, so Joe,
32:22
Speaker 3: Philbin and I worked together at two colleges. We worked
32:26
Speaker 3: together at the us MMA United States Merchant Marine Academy,
32:30
Speaker 3: and we also worked together at Harvard, so you talk
32:33
Speaker 3: about connections. And then Kevin Coyle was a defensive coordinator.
32:37
Speaker 3: Kevin and I know each other for a long time.
32:40
Speaker 4: So it kind of just worked out.
32:42
Speaker 1: So you get there twenty twelve, What was that leap
32:44
Speaker 1: like and what was your first welcome to the NFL
32:46
Speaker 1: moment as a coach?
32:47
Speaker 3: You know it was it was you know, I remember
32:51
Speaker 3: Kevin saying something to me about, you know, hey, these
32:54
Speaker 3: guys are different than the college guys. You know, you
32:56
Speaker 3: got to make sure you approach it the right way.
32:58
Speaker 3: And but I really didn't. I didn't really see it
33:01
Speaker 3: as a big adjustment. I just was always just me
33:04
Speaker 3: And I've never in my life knock on Wood had
33:06
Speaker 3: a problem with my players ever. And when there is
33:09
Speaker 3: a problem, we sit down and we talk about it.
33:11
Speaker 3: But I didn't see it as a huge adjustment, just,
33:14
Speaker 3: you know, just another another group of guys that wanted
33:17
Speaker 3: to be coached, and and as long as you're around
33:20
Speaker 3: players like that, you know you'll get the best at them.
33:23
Speaker 4: And it worked out.
33:25
Speaker 1: Okay. Then you're there for a while and there's a
33:27
Speaker 1: homecoming assort, so you jump for a job in twenty
33:29
Speaker 1: eighteen and you come to the New York Giants wearing
33:32
Speaker 1: the big blue jerseys, and of course that's in the
33:34
Speaker 1: backyard of Staten Island, only a few miles away. DB's coach,
33:38
Speaker 1: who was the coach was that McAdoo, who was the
33:40
Speaker 1: coach there when you were there with them, Pat Shermer
33:42
Speaker 1: uh Sherman.
33:43
Speaker 4: I was with Pat.
33:44
Speaker 3: You know, we we let you know when when Joe
33:48
Speaker 3: Philbrim was fired down to Miami, Dan Campbell was the
33:51
Speaker 3: interim head coach, and Dan named me the defensive coordinator
33:56
Speaker 3: and Zach the offensive coordinator. So it's small world.
33:59
Speaker 1: Think about that right now, Dave Campbell was the head coach,
34:02
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor was the offensive coordinator, and you were the
34:04
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. You look at those three games right now,
34:07
Speaker 1: if you go through it, Campbell's maybe you got the
34:09
Speaker 1: best team in football with the Lions. Then you and
34:11
Speaker 1: Zach a together at the Vengals. How cool is that?
34:13
Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, Ben Johnson's floating around the
34:15
Speaker 3: building too.
34:16
Speaker 1: It's the mastermind offensive coordinator in Detroit. But this is
34:20
Speaker 1: like that team was a forgettable team. No offense to
34:22
Speaker 1: those guys. But like no one's writing books about the
34:24
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen Miami Dolphins, and here we are. There's all
34:27
Speaker 1: that talent in the coaching ranks, similar to the twenty
34:30
Speaker 1: eleven Washington Redskins that we talk about, or the mid
34:33
Speaker 1: two thousands Buccaneers like you were talking about. There's just
34:37
Speaker 1: all these young coaches and it's almost like an incubator.
34:39
Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt.
34:40
Speaker 3: And you know we always used to That's how Zach
34:42
Speaker 3: and I became so close is during those years in Miami.
34:46
Speaker 3: You know, he'd come down to my office or I'd
34:47
Speaker 3: go down to his office and just say, what are
34:49
Speaker 3: these guys trying to do? And you know, and that's
34:52
Speaker 3: how you build friendships, and you know, you get to
34:55
Speaker 3: know who you know, Hey, I really we have the
34:57
Speaker 3: same way of thinking about things and our philosophies are
35:00
Speaker 3: the same and so yeah, so we move on to
35:03
Speaker 3: the Giants, which was you know, I mean, I grew
35:06
Speaker 3: up in Giant fan. I grew up watching Lawrence Tailor
35:08
Speaker 3: and Phil Simms and all those guys. It was, it was,
35:10
Speaker 3: it was awesome. I actually my family stayed in Miami
35:14
Speaker 3: because my kids were finishing high school and stuff. And
35:18
Speaker 3: I'll never forget, like I moved back into you know,
35:21
Speaker 3: I could say it now, I moved back into the
35:25
Speaker 3: same house, the same room I grew up in. So
35:29
Speaker 3: I moved until I ended up obviously got my own
35:32
Speaker 3: place there.
35:32
Speaker 1: How long were you there in your old parents' house?
35:35
Speaker 3: Correct? It was about two months.
35:39
Speaker 1: We got Farah fawcet posters. What are we dealing with here?
35:42
Speaker 1: We got Natari Tari and Nintendo? What do we got?
35:45
Speaker 3: Thank god, Mom had cleared out most of that stuff
35:47
Speaker 3: and it was a guest room. But I will say this,
35:50
Speaker 3: she was like, you know, what time are you gonna
35:52
Speaker 3: be home for dinner?
35:53
Speaker 1: I said, I'm not, you got kids in high school.
36:00
Speaker 1: I got what time you got dinner? Okay, your curfew
36:02
Speaker 1: is this?
36:02
Speaker 4: It was?
36:03
Speaker 3: It was absolutely classic. But we finally found a place
36:06
Speaker 3: to day. And but it was a great two months.
36:08
Speaker 4: I did.
36:09
Speaker 3: I did get some great meals and I packed on
36:11
Speaker 3: about fifteen pounds.
36:12
Speaker 1: Of course I'm cooking. Before we move on, Dan Campbell,
36:17
Speaker 1: did you know then this guy had it?
36:19
Speaker 4: Yeah? I love Dan.
36:20
Speaker 3: You know, Dan is and he hasn't changed the lick.
36:23
Speaker 3: And that's the great thing about Dan. I think myself
36:25
Speaker 3: and Zach very similar in terms of while our approaches
36:28
Speaker 3: may be different, we have none of us have changed
36:32
Speaker 3: our personality. And I think Dan has remained. He's always
36:35
Speaker 3: been that way. He was always that way as a
36:37
Speaker 3: tight end coach. And you know we saw it for that,
36:41
Speaker 3: you know, twelve games we had, you know, we had
36:43
Speaker 3: most of the year that year as a head coach.
36:46
Speaker 3: We saw how he would be and you know, the
36:49
Speaker 3: players rallied around him and us right away, and it
36:53
Speaker 3: was it was great.
36:54
Speaker 1: Yeah. Do you have a good Dan Campbell story? Sorry
36:56
Speaker 1: to go on the Dan Campbell tangent here about the content,
36:59
Speaker 1: give me, give me the Dan. You're in an elevator
37:02
Speaker 1: at a dinner party. They're like, oh, you worked with
37:04
Speaker 1: Dan Campbell. Give me a story.
37:05
Speaker 3: What do you got, Well, I'll give you. I'll give
37:07
Speaker 3: you a locker room story.
37:09
Speaker 4: Nothing weird or anything.
37:11
Speaker 3: But he knows me and I know him right, So
37:14
Speaker 3: I would come in, we'd come in about the same time.
37:16
Speaker 4: In the morning.
37:18
Speaker 3: We'd end up in the you know, just putting our
37:21
Speaker 3: coaching gear on, and he would you know, I'm not
37:24
Speaker 3: the happiest guy in the morning.
37:25
Speaker 4: I'm a little grumpy. And Dan's always ready to go.
37:28
Speaker 3: So he would say he would look at the clock,
37:31
Speaker 3: say up, can't talk to lou It's not past seven thirty.
37:34
Speaker 3: He doesn't talk to anybody, and just break my you
37:36
Speaker 3: know what the whole way through.
37:37
Speaker 4: So now we still talk about that today.
37:39
Speaker 3: I never called He never calls me in the morning
37:41
Speaker 3: because he knows I'm not picking it up.
37:43
Speaker 1: He knows better. I love that, all right, And then
37:49
Speaker 1: your name starts getting hot and you get to Cincinnati,
37:52
Speaker 1: you're running this defense, and the last couple off seasons
37:55
Speaker 1: you've interviewed for head coaching jobs. What's your approach to
37:58
Speaker 1: those interviews? And the Giants were one I know Arizona
38:01
Speaker 1: got down to the wire last year. When you go
38:04
Speaker 1: in there for those coaching jobs, what is your message
38:06
Speaker 1: to these own And I have no doubt you will
38:08
Speaker 1: be a head coach in the coming years if you
38:09
Speaker 1: want to be. But what's it like going in for
38:11
Speaker 1: those interviews and what's your why they should hire coach
38:14
Speaker 1: Lou Romo?
38:15
Speaker 4: Yeah? No, I appreciate it, you know.
38:17
Speaker 3: To me, I think at the end of the day,
38:19
Speaker 3: what moves people, what moves teams, and it's it's how
38:24
Speaker 3: you get these players and how you get them to
38:27
Speaker 3: do things on a consistent basis, and how you motivate them.
38:31
Speaker 3: This is a ultimate, as we all know, an ultimate
38:34
Speaker 3: team game and team sport. But unless you can grab
38:37
Speaker 3: each and every one of the guys on the team
38:39
Speaker 3: at all positions, and I think I've been able to.
38:43
Speaker 4: That's one of my strengths.
38:44
Speaker 3: It's my biggest strength, is that I've never had an
38:47
Speaker 3: issue of making sure that we come together as a group,
38:51
Speaker 3: come together as a team, and ultimately, that's what the
38:54
Speaker 3: head coach of a team should be is a guy
38:56
Speaker 3: that can get guys to move towards a common goal
38:59
Speaker 3: and do it in a way that they know that
39:02
Speaker 3: there's a great amount of respect on both sides. You know,
39:04
Speaker 3: I've always had I've always done a good job of
39:06
Speaker 3: that and always done had away with players and make
39:11
Speaker 3: sure we'll managing.
39:11
Speaker 4: Them the right way.
39:12
Speaker 3: And at the end of the day, you know, you
39:14
Speaker 3: just listen to some of the things that they say.
39:16
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not an ego guy or anything like that,
39:18
Speaker 3: but our guys play for us over here and they
39:21
Speaker 3: always have And to me, that's the sign of a
39:24
Speaker 3: good coach is that you get your guys to do
39:26
Speaker 3: things consistently.
39:28
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you guys play and you mentioned that Core four.
39:31
Speaker 1: I watched these Bengals games. Those guys are so dialed
39:33
Speaker 1: into the connection you have with Trey Hendrickson. Can you
39:38
Speaker 1: talk about that guy, because I feel like he's most
39:40
Speaker 1: underrated pass rusher in the sport in this week in
39:42
Speaker 1: week out. He's causing trouble and we never talk about
39:44
Speaker 1: him in the same conversation as a Miles Garrett or
39:46
Speaker 1: a Bosa or even now Max Crosby.
39:49
Speaker 3: It's amazing, you know some of the things and DJ
39:52
Speaker 3: Reader kind of in the same light in a different
39:55
Speaker 3: way in the run game. But Trey is just a phenomenal,
39:57
Speaker 3: phenomenal pass rusher. He is always around the quarterback. You know,
40:02
Speaker 3: the amount of hits, the false starts, the holding call.
40:07
Speaker 3: He's had three or four sacks taken away this year
40:10
Speaker 3: because the penalty's on third down or l TV, leading
40:12
Speaker 3: the league. So just a relentless guy and his approach
40:16
Speaker 3: to the game and is in his approach to how
40:19
Speaker 3: we pass rushes, but within this framework of what we're
40:22
Speaker 3: doing on defense, which is rare to find these days.
40:24
Speaker 3: And I think, to me, again, that's one of the
40:27
Speaker 3: reasons why we've been good on defense is it's a
40:31
Speaker 3: collective effort. It's not just one guy trying to do
40:34
Speaker 3: more than he's supposed to do. And as you mentioned,
40:37
Speaker 3: you know, we don't feel like we've got a bunch
40:40
Speaker 3: of stars. We've got a bunch of really good football
40:42
Speaker 3: players that play together as one.
40:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's just what it is when you're playing
40:46
Speaker 1: for the Cincinnati Bengals, with the exception of maybe Joe
40:48
Speaker 1: Burrow and Jamaar Chase, it's just these are not superstar
40:52
Speaker 1: you know. It's not Dallas, it's not the Giants. It's
40:55
Speaker 1: not necessarily one of these franchises that gets the same
40:58
Speaker 1: light because historically they haven't. And yet it doesn't seem
41:01
Speaker 1: like your defensive players cry about that or even seem
41:03
Speaker 1: to care.
41:04
Speaker 3: No, they are a prideful group, number one, I'll tell
41:07
Speaker 3: you that. And we just kind of quietly go about
41:09
Speaker 3: our business. And we know, like the other day during
41:12
Speaker 3: the game, I hear DJ reader behind me, just put
41:15
Speaker 3: the ball down again, let's go, let's get another stop,
41:17
Speaker 3: Let's get another stop. There's never any varying from that,
41:21
Speaker 3: and that's rare in today's NFL. And I think again,
41:25
Speaker 3: it's a part of the culture that Zach's built as
41:29
Speaker 3: a team and what we've tried to do here on defense.
41:31
Speaker 3: And we can control what we can control, and a
41:34
Speaker 3: lot of people say that, but we demonstrate it, and
41:37
Speaker 3: you know, you can see it by how what we've
41:39
Speaker 3: done in the biggest games.
41:41
Speaker 1: Go around the division real quick, because I think that's
41:43
Speaker 1: the most heated division when it comes to rivalry games.
41:46
Speaker 1: And I feel like none of those teams like each other.
41:48
Speaker 1: None of you guys want to lose to the other
41:51
Speaker 1: one and another one want to see the other teams beat
41:52
Speaker 1: the other ones. Like I think about even the Bengals,
41:55
Speaker 1: like the dynamic between the Bengals and the Ravens is
41:58
Speaker 1: very interesting in recent years. When you guys were down,
42:01
Speaker 1: the Ravens were dancing on the graves, and then when
42:03
Speaker 1: you guys had a chance a couple of years ago,
42:05
Speaker 1: you poured it on the Ravens pretty bad. And there's
42:07
Speaker 1: no love there. Steelers. Of course, the Browns for whatever reason,
42:10
Speaker 1: continue to win against you guys, and then it's like
42:13
Speaker 1: a round robin. Everyone seems to beat the other teams
42:16
Speaker 1: those division games n AFC North, Now that you've been there
42:18
Speaker 1: for several years, just how significant are those matchups?
42:21
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's unbelievable.
42:22
Speaker 3: I mean, you go back to last year's playoffs and
42:25
Speaker 3: I felt like we played the Ravens fifteen weeks in.
42:27
Speaker 1: A row the last game of the season, that right
42:29
Speaker 1: in the wild.
42:30
Speaker 3: Card, and you know, we all know what we're getting
42:33
Speaker 3: into when we, you know, strapping up against those guys
42:38
Speaker 3: or the as you mentioned, the Steelers and as you mentioned,
42:40
Speaker 3: the Browns have kind of had our number a little bit.
42:43
Speaker 3: But you know, it's fierce competitiveness. It's like, you know,
42:47
Speaker 3: we used to have this great rivalry a Thanksgiving Day
42:50
Speaker 3: game in high school where you got two neighbors they're
42:53
Speaker 3: going to go against each other. That's how every one
42:55
Speaker 3: of these games are, and you know it's going to
42:57
Speaker 3: usually come down right to the end, but they are tough.
43:00
Speaker 3: Everything I heard about the AFC North is true. You
43:04
Speaker 3: know you're going to come in here and you know,
43:07
Speaker 3: as I tell our guys, the only adjustments we're gonna
43:09
Speaker 3: have to make is to tighten our chin strap.
43:10
Speaker 4: And right.
43:13
Speaker 1: Last year, after the AFC Championship game, there was the
43:15
Speaker 1: late hit call and everyone's there, and there was the
43:17
Speaker 1: clip of Pratt talking in the locker room, and that
43:20
Speaker 1: could blow up a lot of teams. It seemed like
43:22
Speaker 1: it didn't affect the Cincinnati Bengals. What was the conversations
43:25
Speaker 1: afterwards Asi Pratt and then of course the late hit
43:28
Speaker 1: called itself that that really was kind of a non
43:31
Speaker 1: issue once the season started.
43:33
Speaker 3: So I think it's a great question, and I actually
43:36
Speaker 3: used it on my interview with Arizona and because it
43:41
Speaker 3: was a moment where, you know, Jermaine is an emotional guy,
43:44
Speaker 3: and that's an emotional moment at the highest level where
43:47
Speaker 3: three points away from going to back to back Super Bowls,
43:50
Speaker 3: and so he said what he said, But the next
43:55
Speaker 3: day in the locker room, Jermaine is basically crying and saying,
43:59
Speaker 3: you know, it's my fault. I was.
44:01
Speaker 4: You know, I shouldn't have said what I said.
44:03
Speaker 3: You know, Joe is part of the reasons why we
44:05
Speaker 3: got to this point and just squashed it immediately without
44:09
Speaker 3: I didn't have to say nothing to him, Zach didn't
44:11
Speaker 3: have to say anything to him.
44:12
Speaker 4: It was just a heated moment. But but it was
44:14
Speaker 4: squashed right away.
44:15
Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, bj Hill has his arm
44:18
Speaker 3: around Joseph who's crying in the locker room because he
44:21
Speaker 3: obviously didn't.
44:22
Speaker 4: Want to do that.
44:24
Speaker 3: And just said, no more questions for him. I'll answer
44:27
Speaker 3: his questions today. And so again, to me, I showed
44:30
Speaker 3: that I had all I had my.
44:32
Speaker 1: Pet emotional, I get emotional. Are you talking about it?
44:35
Speaker 3: It was and I felt the need to like, well,
44:37
Speaker 3: how do you how do you show culture? How do
44:40
Speaker 3: you what's your way of changing our culture?
44:42
Speaker 4: Well? Here here it is, let me show you.
44:44
Speaker 3: Uh And and these guys want to you know, they
44:47
Speaker 3: want to not only play for each other, but they're
44:50
Speaker 3: going to stand up for each other in the most
44:52
Speaker 3: heated moments.
44:53
Speaker 4: You know, when everything's going good and you're winning games,
44:56
Speaker 4: anybody can be the head coach.
44:57
Speaker 3: Okay, it's when you have gone through what we've gone
45:01
Speaker 3: through here from five years ago to where we are
45:04
Speaker 3: now and and all of the steps away, both positively
45:08
Speaker 3: and negatively, that you really know what is needed to
45:10
Speaker 3: be done to change a team around.
45:13
Speaker 1: That's beautiful.
45:14
Speaker 2: All right.
45:14
Speaker 1: We did a little rapid fire here to wrap things up.
45:16
Speaker 1: I love talking to you. I can talk to you
45:18
Speaker 1: for an hour. You don't have an hour. You're doing
45:19
Speaker 1: a solid and giving me some time. You're prepared for
45:21
Speaker 1: your next game. You've coached for many years NFL college.
45:26
Speaker 1: Who is the offensive player that you would say is
45:29
Speaker 1: just an absolute freak that you prepare for night and day,
45:32
Speaker 1: and then they get out there and it's like could
45:34
Speaker 1: be active, could be current, could be for me, You're
45:36
Speaker 1: just like, holy crap, there is no answer for when
45:39
Speaker 1: this guy is on his game.
45:40
Speaker 3: I mean, there's there's there's some ones that you know.
45:43
Speaker 3: I go back to Calvin Johnson. We were trying to
45:45
Speaker 3: get ready for him at when he was at Detroit
45:48
Speaker 3: and it's like, okay, what do we do? Thank god
45:52
Speaker 3: I had thank god I had Brent Grimes where he
45:54
Speaker 3: could like jump through.
45:56
Speaker 4: And made that great.
45:57
Speaker 3: I remember that one yeah, great one, but but he
46:00
Speaker 3: had Brent was hanging all over him on another where
46:02
Speaker 3: he caught a touchdown on him and he couldn't get
46:04
Speaker 3: you know, kind of get through to him. But I
46:06
Speaker 3: mean that from a wide receiver standpoint, he was damn
46:10
Speaker 3: near impossible. You know, We've got Lamar in our division
46:12
Speaker 3: that we have to face twice and just to you know,
46:15
Speaker 3: just a he's the best athlete on the field when
46:18
Speaker 3: he's out there. But there's there's so many. Those are
46:21
Speaker 3: the two that come to mind. You know, we're going
46:23
Speaker 3: to see one in two weeks. You know, the running
46:26
Speaker 3: back at San Francisco, who's pretty good.
46:28
Speaker 1: You know, Caffrey's pretty good.
46:30
Speaker 4: So there's a.
46:31
Speaker 3: Lot of them, you know, and I'm just fortunate we
46:35
Speaker 3: can always draw back on some of those great matchups
46:37
Speaker 3: that we've had to try to help our guys, you know,
46:40
Speaker 3: get through. And I think, you know, you know, you know,
46:44
Speaker 3: an example would be Cam Taylor brid from last week.
46:47
Speaker 4: It's DK and you.
46:48
Speaker 3: Know, I had showed him some clips of when we
46:50
Speaker 3: played Julio Jones back in the day, and I said, listen,
46:54
Speaker 3: you know, here's a size difference, but it doesn't matter
46:57
Speaker 3: if you play with proper technique and this that.
46:58
Speaker 1: And the other thing. How's that work? So I love that.
47:00
Speaker 1: So Camp Taylor Britt second year guy. You know SEC guys,
47:04
Speaker 1: talent everything. Does he know? Oh who Julio Jones is?
47:07
Speaker 1: Did he grow up watching Hulo? And you're like, look,
47:09
Speaker 1: your receiver is DK Metcalf, you know him, But here's
47:11
Speaker 1: Julio Jones. And here's how you would defend a guy
47:13
Speaker 1: who's arguably the greatest of his generation. And is he
47:16
Speaker 1: like all right, I'll go watch tape of Julio Or
47:18
Speaker 1: is he like get out of here, coach, I'm watching
47:20
Speaker 1: DK metf or I don't want to deal with it
47:21
Speaker 1: at all.
47:22
Speaker 3: No, he's like a sponge. He wants to he wants
47:24
Speaker 3: to learn and hear everything. I just showed him a
47:26
Speaker 3: couple of clips when we played him, probably twenty thirteen,
47:30
Speaker 3: I think it was when he was Atlanta, you know.
47:33
Speaker 1: At his height of his Grenking shop.
47:35
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we had a couple of good plays against him. Now,
47:39
Speaker 3: there was some bad ones I didn't show him, but
47:40
Speaker 3: of course hi that yeah, yeah, yeah, but he cam
47:46
Speaker 3: listens to everything. But I just think it's it's great
47:48
Speaker 3: when you can show former players against great players and
47:52
Speaker 3: really some of the similar things that we're doing.
47:54
Speaker 4: Now.
47:54
Speaker 1: All right, a couple more. Your favorite defensive player in
47:58
Speaker 1: the history of the sport. You mentioned you were a
47:59
Speaker 1: fan of LT growing up, but as a mastermind of
48:02
Speaker 1: defense who has been doing this since nineteen eighty nine
48:05
Speaker 1: coaching football, who is your prototype? You say, defensive player?
48:08
Speaker 1: Give me this guy?
48:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's hard not to say LT. I
48:12
Speaker 3: mean that would be you know, the one.
48:14
Speaker 4: I mean.
48:15
Speaker 3: I've been around some great rushers. I'll tell you about
48:17
Speaker 3: the guys that I've been around, you know. I mean again,
48:21
Speaker 3: a quiet guy that probably doesn't get as much.
48:23
Speaker 1: Can I guess? Can I guess who it's going to be?
48:25
Speaker 1: Go ahead, you're gonna say, Cam, Wake, Wake, Let's go.
48:29
Speaker 1: Can't wake? His flowers gets no love.
48:31
Speaker 4: No love the guy.
48:32
Speaker 3: You know, there's only about thirty some odd guys in
48:35
Speaker 3: the NFL that have over one hundred sacks in their
48:37
Speaker 3: career and maybe more now. Last time I checked, it
48:39
Speaker 3: was in the thirties. I mean thirty guys, ever, and
48:42
Speaker 3: Cam is one of those.
48:43
Speaker 4: Now.
48:44
Speaker 3: Cam used to sit next to me for six years
48:46
Speaker 3: in the team meeting, so he's my guy. But I've
48:49
Speaker 3: never seen a guy rush as consistent as Cam and
48:54
Speaker 3: is as powerful as he was, and how he affected games.
48:57
Speaker 3: You know, So giving me a guy, I mean.
49:00
Speaker 2: I.
49:03
Speaker 1: Get it all right. Last one coolest non football person
49:09
Speaker 1: that you've got to come across that you've got to
49:10
Speaker 1: spend time with, whether it be a celebrity, legendary leader,
49:15
Speaker 1: someone in the business world that this career has led
49:18
Speaker 1: to where hey, I got the opportunity to meet this
49:20
Speaker 1: person as well.
49:23
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's see.
49:24
Speaker 3: So I would say, you know, just some of my
49:27
Speaker 3: Harvard buddies that I used to coach are now very
49:31
Speaker 3: prominent people around the in the business world and other things.
49:34
Speaker 3: So Jase Snowden, who's the CEO of Penn Gaming. Jay
49:40
Speaker 3: and I played some golf this summer and he introduced
49:43
Speaker 3: me to a few people. But when you're around, when
49:45
Speaker 3: you're around guys like that and the and the reach
49:48
Speaker 3: that they have and the way they talk about the
49:51
Speaker 3: people that they talk about, it's pretty cool. And just
49:53
Speaker 3: listening to how a guy like.
49:55
Speaker 1: That how build a company is how.
49:59
Speaker 3: They build a company, how they manage their employees, how
50:02
Speaker 3: all of that And not only do we play golf,
50:05
Speaker 3: but you know, you just s in there and we're
50:07
Speaker 3: going back and forth because when I was coaching him,
50:09
Speaker 3: it was probably about a six year age difference.
50:11
Speaker 1: I don't know six eight What position was he in college?
50:14
Speaker 3: Jay was a quarterback that we turned into it I
50:17
Speaker 3: wanted as a safety.
50:18
Speaker 4: In his last two years he played safety for me.
50:20
Speaker 1: And he ends up selling Penn Gaming or the rights
50:23
Speaker 1: to pend At to ESPN for about a billion dollars.
50:26
Speaker 1: Like last week or something that's not.
50:27
Speaker 4: Bad, No, not a bad day at the office.
50:29
Speaker 3: Yeah, when I asked him, like, you come into the
50:32
Speaker 3: game this week, I don't want to hear any you
50:34
Speaker 3: know bs. You can't you know, can't get a flight?
50:39
Speaker 1: Yeah? Who else? I love this? You go down these
50:41
Speaker 1: Harvard walls, You're probably having all sorts of different people.
50:44
Speaker 1: I love this, this image of you as a football
50:46
Speaker 1: coach of all these guys.
50:47
Speaker 4: Well, we had I tell you what we did have.
50:51
Speaker 3: Warren Buffett walked through the halls of the Miami Dolphin facility.
50:55
Speaker 1: Do we have a coke? Was he drinking? The story
50:58
Speaker 1: is he has every day he starts with a coke.
51:00
Speaker 1: I think I bet you he's not drinking coke.
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Speaker 3: I didn't do that, But this is not like I'm
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Speaker 3: not telling any he was in pregame?
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Speaker 1: Is any friends with Sue? Is that what it was? Like?
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Speaker 3: Him? A sewer boys, So he was in pregame with
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Speaker 3: shoulder pads and.
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Speaker 4: Go find the tape.
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Speaker 1: It's out there, some Warren Buffett wearing shoulder pads and
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Speaker 1: a helmet and h and Domkin Sue Jersey after Mike
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Speaker 1: Tannebaum just signed Sue for the biggest contract of all time.
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Speaker 4: Yes, sir, yes, sir.
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Speaker 1: Do you ask Buffett anything? Are you just kind of
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Speaker 1: sheepishly nod your.
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Speaker 4: Head like is that really? What is am I dreaming?
51:43
Speaker 1: Like?
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Speaker 3: What is going on right now? As we're getting ready
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Speaker 3: to play somebody, I'm like, is that really warm? Buffett
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Speaker 3: in a in a Halloween costume essentially?
51:51
Speaker 1: And it was all right. My last one is very
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Speaker 1: personal to you. Saturday Night Fever is a movie from
51:56
Speaker 1: the seventies. Anyone who knows anything immediately it says about
52:00
Speaker 1: Staten Island all like Saturay Night Fever. You had to
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Speaker 1: answer those questions your entire childhood, I'm sure, right through
52:05
Speaker 1: college and right through the pros. It's kind of a
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Speaker 1: dated reference now. I think Staten Island's having a little
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Speaker 1: resurgence right now. You got you doing this at the
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Speaker 1: NFL level. You got Pete Davidson, you got Colin Jokes,
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Speaker 1: you got the impractical jokers. I feel like Staten Island's
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Speaker 1: having a moment. How proud are you of Staten Island?
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Speaker 1: And take this moment here to tell all those Manhattan
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Speaker 1: snobs that, you know what, You're not the only show
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Speaker 1: in town.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, no doubt.
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Speaker 3: We've always felt like the forgotten borough. When I tell
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Speaker 3: people that I'm from New York City, they will where
52:33
Speaker 3: I'm like, well, Staten Island.
52:34
Speaker 4: They're like, no, no, no, it's not New York. No, I
52:36
Speaker 4: said it is.
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Speaker 3: There's five boroughs and we're one of them. But no,
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Speaker 3: I you know, I love growing up there. It's part
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Speaker 3: of again who I am and what you know, I'll
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Speaker 3: never forget. I was going to probably fifth or sixth grade,
52:50
Speaker 3: standing on a city bus, waiting for the city bus
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Speaker 3: to go, and you know, you're getting on that bus
52:55
Speaker 3: with all types of different people, and it's that's one scenario.
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Speaker 3: But that's made me who I am today, and I
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Speaker 3: wouldn't want to grow grown up anywhere else around. I
53:04
Speaker 3: still have great friends from there, and you know, most
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Speaker 3: of my family lives there still, and you know, I
53:12
Speaker 3: go right back to Donino's Pizza every time I go.
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Speaker 1: Come on, talk about it, Danino's Pizza. Were you a
53:18
Speaker 1: faery guy into the city or do you take the verizontal.
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Speaker 3: Bridge more the more? The bridge ferry every now and again?
53:24
Speaker 3: But uh uh yeah, I was more of a more
53:27
Speaker 3: of a go over the arizonta.
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Speaker 1: Okay, are you into the Impractical Jokers? Do you know
53:31
Speaker 1: their work?
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Speaker 4: So I do. I watched them. They're funny.
53:35
Speaker 3: My son when I went to the Giants, he transferred
53:39
Speaker 3: to from Saint Thomas Aquinas down in Fort Lauderdale to Farrell,
53:42
Speaker 3: my senior Farrell and my brother in law went to college.
53:46
Speaker 3: I went to Farrell, I guess at the same time
53:48
Speaker 3: when those guys were there. So, uh, funny story. A
53:52
Speaker 3: bunch of Farrell guys came to this past game against
53:56
Speaker 3: the Seahawks.
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Speaker 1: Yeah really yeah.
53:58
Speaker 3: They were wearing Farrell pullovers and they got asked like
54:03
Speaker 3: five six times like, hey, is it that where the
54:05
Speaker 3: Impractical Jokers are from?
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Speaker 4: So there you go.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, we've got we're getting a little bit of
54:09
Speaker 3: a name for ourselves for sure.
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Speaker 1: I love it, dude, Thank you and the Bengals have
54:12
Speaker 1: a name from how's that transition? The Bengals are making
54:14
Speaker 1: a name for themselves. You guys are already well on
54:16
Speaker 1: the scene. You know my feelings felt. You've seen me
54:19
Speaker 1: talk about you on TV, but also just in our interactions.
54:21
Speaker 1: I think you're the best of the best, and it
54:23
Speaker 1: means so much to me that you would come on
54:25
Speaker 1: the podcast and from the Merchant Marine Academy to now
54:28
Speaker 1: the top of the game in the NFL. It's been
54:30
Speaker 1: a pretty cool story, dude.
54:32
Speaker 4: I really appreciate it.
54:33
Speaker 3: Appreciate you having me and uh, we're just looking forward
54:35
Speaker 3: to keep this thing rolling.
54:36
Speaker 4: Man, I appreciate it.
54:38
Speaker 1: That's the approach, guys. Lou Amo defensive coordinator of the
54:40
Speaker 1: Bengals and a head coach of your team in the
54:43
Speaker 1: next couple of years. We appreciate you coming on, man.
54:45
Speaker 1: Thanks thank you Aaron coach Louena Rumo. I feel like
54:48
Speaker 1: these guys come on and you walk away, You're like,
54:50
Speaker 1: all right, hire them for my head coaching job. I
54:51
Speaker 1: don't know how Arizona walked out of that meeting. It
54:54
Speaker 1: wasn't like, yes that guy now, Agan, It's been great,
54:56
Speaker 1: But I love lou and I think his unit always
54:59
Speaker 1: ends up playing well, and that's with a rotating bunch
55:02
Speaker 1: of names at that defensive back position, which is not
55:05
Speaker 1: an easy position to fill, especially with young guys in
55:06
Speaker 1: that conference.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and like he was saying, I mean, they don't
55:10
Speaker 2: have a big star, they don't have Aaron Donald. They
55:13
Speaker 2: just have a group of guys that are all great
55:15
Speaker 2: and working together. And that's one of the things that
55:18
Speaker 2: makes that defense so frustrating to have to play against.
55:21
Speaker 1: Twenty fifteen Dolphins. Joe Fildman is fired midway through the
55:24
Speaker 1: season after they go to Europe or they go to London.
55:26
Speaker 1: Come back. Dan Campbell, the tight ends coach, is interim coach.
55:30
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson is now the tight ends coach, Ben Johnson,
55:32
Speaker 1: who's now the innovator in Detroit. Zach Taylor is the
55:35
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, and lou Ana Roumos a defensive coordinator. I
55:38
Speaker 1: did not know that until this interviewer. That is fascinating.
55:41
Speaker 1: It's a deep dive. We I mean, I love that stuff.
55:43
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I like the vague memories of when Dan
55:47
Speaker 2: Campbell took over are not something that is that I
55:50
Speaker 2: would be able to recall if I were on a
55:52
Speaker 2: Jeopardy game.
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Speaker 1: It would not come up for me unfortunately, so it
55:56
Speaker 1: all goes back to jeopardy. Anyway. Thanks to coach Lou
55:59
Speaker 1: Bengals are always going to be in the mix. Even
56:01
Speaker 1: when they were zero and two or one and two,
56:02
Speaker 1: it was like, they're gonna be players when it matters more.
56:06
Speaker 1: If Burrow's calf is healthy, they'll be in there. And
56:09
Speaker 1: then of course they rattle off too in a row
56:10
Speaker 1: against two good teams. That's where they are now. We
56:14
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56:23
Speaker 1: week's games. And you know who I'm going with right now.
56:27
Speaker 1: I'm going with the New York Jets, and I'm going
56:31
Speaker 1: specifically with the New York Jets defense, which stepped it
56:34
Speaker 1: up despite not having DJ Reid or Sauce Gardner, Guys
56:38
Speaker 1: like Jordan Whitehead making huge plays, and then in the
56:41
Speaker 1: biggest moment, Tony Adams. Tony Adams, an undrafted free agent
56:46
Speaker 1: out of Illinois in his second year playing safety, having
56:49
Speaker 1: to move all around tuk to Robert Sala, he said
56:52
Speaker 1: they had only four active dressed cornerbacks for this game
56:56
Speaker 1: against an Eagles offense that had been lighting up the league.
56:59
Speaker 1: They go into battle and they find a way. Both
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Speaker 1: Williams Brothers, Quincy and Quinn fantastic. CJ. Mosley all over
57:06
Speaker 1: the field, Jermaine Johnson looking like a first round pick.
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Speaker 1: Defensive coordinator Jeff Olbrich, the New York Jets defense for
57:14
Speaker 1: finding a way to get the key turnovers when needed,
57:18
Speaker 1: intercepting Jalen Hurts three times and giving the Jets just
57:21
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Speaker 1: ahead and order now, Aaron, set your DVR. October twenty fifth,
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Speaker 1: ass versus Adam Rodriguez's Ass. I just wanted to curse
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Speaker 1: on this podcast and get you guys fired up. A
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Speaker 1: great episode as always, Aeron, please root me on.
58:03
Speaker 2: Of course, I'm gonna have a print out of state capitals, geometry,
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Speaker 2: cloud formations, and roll.
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Speaker 1: Napoleon, Yeah, Napoleon and Henry like a spoiler alert, not
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Speaker 1: a single question about Waterloo. And I was ready, dude,
58:19
Speaker 1: I was so ready. This is another episode of the
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Speaker 1: season with Peter Schrager. Many thanks to you, Aaron wan Kaufman,
58:26
Speaker 1: my great producer, to Jason English, who is like the
58:30
Speaker 1: core four here, the three of us, every week we're together.
58:33
Speaker 1: We're doing this. I jokingly said that we're trying to
58:36
Speaker 1: get to Las Vegas and the super Bowl. Take the
58:38
Speaker 1: jokingly aside. If we want to get a go fun
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Speaker 1: me prage, we need to get to super Bowl. Let's
58:42
Speaker 1: go for it. Let's make it happen. Let's bring this
58:45
Speaker 1: thing on the road. Let's see what we can do.
58:47
Speaker 1: Meredith Batton who stopped by today, she's our mastermind out
58:51
Speaker 1: in La a Michigan alum, and she got to go
58:54
Speaker 1: to see her Wolverines kick Indiana's asked this weekend and
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Speaker 1: that was cool for her to everyone in the audience.
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