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- 0:00Speaker 1: On May 22, 1993, a man named Kurt was carrying
- 0:03Speaker 1: some boxes into his new home. He had just moved
- 0:06Speaker 1: into this two-story house along with his fiancée, whose.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Name was Kem.
- 0:10Speaker 1: Kurt went into the house, and he dropped the boxes
- 0:12Speaker 1: in the foyer, and then he turned back to head
- 0:14Speaker 1: back down to the car to get another load. And
- 0:16Speaker 1: as he walked down the steps, he passed his fiancée, Kem,
- 0:20Speaker 1: and they smiled at each other.
- 0:21Speaker 2: She was making her way up, he was making his
- 0:23Speaker 2: way down.
- 0:23Speaker 1: But seconds after they passed each other, right as Kurt
- 0:26Speaker 1: got back to the car, he felt this incredible pressure
- 0:30Speaker 1: and blast wave hit him in the back that almost
- 0:32Speaker 1: sent him flying.
- 0:33Speaker 2: And then when Kurt turned around, he could not believe
- 0:37Speaker 2: what he saw.
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- 1:23Speaker 1: On the evening of Friday, May 21st, 1993, a 29-year-old
- 1:27Speaker 1: woman named Kem Wenger clapped her hands together in front
- 1:31Speaker 1: of her with happiness in the basement of the Golden
- 1:33Speaker 1: Congregational Church in rural Iowa. Her closest friends had gathered
- 1:37Speaker 1: here to throw Kem and her fiancé, 32-year-old Kurt Simon,
- 1:41Speaker 1: a combination wedding shower and goodbye party, and now they
- 1:45Speaker 1: were presenting the couple with their gift. It was a
- 1:48Speaker 1: money tree, planted in a little yellow coffee can with
- 1:51Speaker 1: envelopes full of cash hanging off of it. Kem and
- 1:54Speaker 1: Kurt both smiled and began making their way through the
- 1:57Speaker 1: crowd to give everybody a big hug and to say
- 1:59Speaker 1: thank you. Tonight was a big night for them. All
- 2:02Speaker 1: their plans were finally falling into place. Tomorrow, they would
- 2:05Speaker 1: pack all of Kurt's belongings into their car, and they
- 2:08Speaker 1: would drive 230 miles south from the place where he
- 2:11Speaker 1: had been living in Iowa to the city of Bloomington, Illinois,
- 2:14Speaker 1: just outside of Chicago, where Kem already lived. And in Bloomington,
- 2:19Speaker 1: they would begin their new life together as a soon-to-be-married couple,
- 2:22Speaker 1: raising Cam's two children from previous relationships. It had been
- 2:26Speaker 1: a whirlwind eight months since they had first met on
- 2:29Speaker 1: actually a blind date. Cam had known almost immediately that
- 2:32Speaker 1: Kurt really was something special. But it hadn't been easy
- 2:35Speaker 1: for them to get to this point. They both had
- 2:38Speaker 1: almost no money. Kurt was studying to be a Presbyterian
- 2:41Speaker 1: minister and living in Iowa to finish seminary school. And
- 2:44Speaker 1: Cam was a single mom living in Bloomington, who had
- 2:47Speaker 1: just recently quit her office job because her co-worker was
- 2:51Speaker 1: sexually harassing her. She'd taken on off-the-books work as a
- 2:54Speaker 1: hairdresser and house cleaner, but she still had to rely
- 2:57Speaker 1: on public assistance to make ends meet. The long-distance relationship
- 3:01Speaker 1: itself was also just exhausting, with all the driving back
- 3:04Speaker 1: and forth. And it didn't help that Kem had contentious
- 3:07Speaker 1: relationships with the fathers of both of her kids. Her
- 3:11Speaker 1: one-year-old son's father, Dale Fosdick, was always late with his
- 3:15Speaker 1: child support payments, and he still acted like he was
- 3:18Speaker 1: entitled to walk right into Kem's house anytime he wanted.
- 3:21Speaker 1: Kurt had actually recently confronted him about doing that and
- 3:24Speaker 1: told him to stop, which Dale did not seem to appreciate.
- 3:28Speaker 1: Her seven-year-old daughter's father, Todd Wenger, really wasn't much better.
- 3:31Speaker 1: Todd fought with Kem all the time over their custody arrangement,
- 3:35Speaker 1: and he and her other ex, Dale, were actually friends,
- 3:38Speaker 1: which really annoyed Kem. But now, as somebody handed Kim
- 3:42Speaker 1: a piece of cake in the church basement, all those
- 3:45Speaker 1: problems seemed like they were about to get a whole
- 3:47Speaker 1: lot smaller. Kurt was moving in and Kim was about
- 3:50Speaker 1: to get her whole life organized. Waiting for her at
- 3:53Speaker 1: home in Bloomington, she had a whole collection of Modern
- 3:55Speaker 1: Bride magazines so she could plan their wedding. And she
- 3:58Speaker 1: and Kurt were actually talking about Kurt maybe adopting her son.
- 4:02Speaker 1: And she knew Kurt could very quickly get a job
- 4:04Speaker 1: in Bloomington as a pastoral counselor. and they could maybe
- 4:08Speaker 1: save some money by only having to pay for one
- 4:10Speaker 1: residence now.
- 4:11Speaker 2: And this money tree they were getting was a sweet start.
- 4:14Speaker 1: I mean, Kem knew that the members of the congregation
- 4:17Speaker 1: were not wealthy people by any stretch. But, you know,
- 4:20Speaker 1: she found it very touching that they'd pooled their limited
- 4:22Speaker 1: resources to give her and Kurt such a wonderful send-off.
- 4:26Speaker 1: The only thing that could make this moment any better
- 4:28Speaker 1: would be if Kem's mother, Cricket.
- 4:30Speaker 2: Was there.
- 4:31Speaker 1: But, unfortunately, Kem and Cricket were estranged. Kem wished she
- 4:35Speaker 1: could be closer to her mother, but Cricket had a
- 4:38Speaker 1: mean streak, and for some reason, she really hated Kurt.
- 4:43Speaker 1: Kem finished her cake and then checked the time, and
- 4:45Speaker 1: she realized, you know, it was time to go. So
- 4:47Speaker 1: she tapped Kurt on the shoulder as he was speaking
- 4:49Speaker 1: to some friends. They had a lot left to pack
- 4:51Speaker 1: tomorrow morning, and they had a long drive ahead of them.
- 4:54Speaker 1: So Kem and Kurt made their goodbyes and then headed
- 4:56Speaker 1: out of the church holding hands. The next day was Saturday,
- 5:04Speaker 1: May 22nd. and Kem and Kurt spent the first part
- 5:06Speaker 1: of the day packing and then the second part driving.
- 5:10Speaker 1: And then finally, at 10.30 p.m. that night, they pulled
- 5:13Speaker 1: their car into the driveway of Kem's two-story house in Bloomington,
- 5:16Speaker 1: the home they would now share together. Kem just sat
- 5:19Speaker 1: for a second in the passenger seat while Kurt got
- 5:21Speaker 1: out of the car and opened up the trunk. They
- 5:24Speaker 1: had a lot of stuff to carry in, but Kem
- 5:26Speaker 1: was just exhausted and frankly didn't feel like doing it
- 5:28Speaker 1: quite yet. So she watched as Kurt went ahead and
- 5:32Speaker 1: walked up the front stairs carrying a box and the
- 5:34Speaker 1: money tree. He unlocked the door, he stepped inside, and
- 5:37Speaker 1: then a minute later, he came back out empty-handed. And
- 5:40Speaker 1: at that point, you know, Kem sighed and decided she
- 5:42Speaker 1: better get out and help too. Kurt was halfway back
- 5:45Speaker 1: down the stairs as Kem grabbed her own box out
- 5:47Speaker 1: of the trunk and walked her way into the house,
- 5:50Speaker 1: into the foyer of her home. She put her box
- 5:52Speaker 1: down and was about to go back outside and do
- 5:54Speaker 1: another trip with Kurt when she paused. There was something
- 5:57Speaker 1: she didn't recognize on the floor of the foyer that
- 6:00Speaker 1: had not been there when she had left for Iowa.
- 6:02Speaker 1: Kurt was outside facing away from the house when an
- 6:06Speaker 1: intense wave of pressure hit him from behind. And nearly
- 6:10Speaker 1: at the exact same time, this booming sound like some.
- 6:13Speaker 2: Kind of explosion filled his ears.
- 6:15Speaker 1: He stumbled forward almost uncontrollably and then whipped around and
- 6:19Speaker 1: called out for Kim. But his ears were ringing now
- 6:22Speaker 1: and he couldn't really tell if she had answered or not.
- 6:24Speaker 1: There was smoke pouring out from the front door of
- 6:26Speaker 1: their house. And instinctively, he just ran into the house,
- 6:30Speaker 1: into the foyer to go find Kem. When he got
- 6:32Speaker 1: in there, there's all this smoke and chaos. There's shards
- 6:35Speaker 1: of broken glass everywhere. And also, he noticed all these
- 6:38Speaker 1: little pieces of what looked like metal kind of all
- 6:41Speaker 1: over the foyer.
- 6:42Speaker 2: Kurt screamed Kem's name over and over. And he looked
- 6:45Speaker 2: frantically all around through all the rubble. But it was
- 6:48Speaker 2: impossible to see. It was like everything was destroyed in here.
- 6:51Speaker 1: And so now, beginning to gasp from all the smoke,
- 6:54Speaker 1: He started walking around the foyer, kind of ducking below
- 6:57Speaker 1: the smoke as best as he could. And that's when
- 7:00Speaker 1: he saw legs on the floor. Minutes later, Detective Larry
- 7:09Speaker 1: Shepard of the Bloomington Police Department pulled up outside the
- 7:12Speaker 1: two-story house in his cruiser with his partner beside him
- 7:15Speaker 1: and another squad car behind them. Shepard did not usually
- 7:18Speaker 1: respond to 911 calls because he was a homicide detective.
- 7:22Speaker 1: But he had happened to be in the area when
- 7:24Speaker 1: dispatch requested officers go check out a report of potentially
- 7:27Speaker 1: a shotgun blast on a residential street. However, the second
- 7:31Speaker 1: he stepped out of his car and looked at this
- 7:34Speaker 1: two-story house, Shepard knew this could not have been a
- 7:37Speaker 1: shotgun blast. There was all this black smoke billowing out
- 7:41Speaker 1: the front door of the house. And although Shepard couldn't
- 7:43Speaker 1: see any fire, he could hear the fire alarm going
- 7:46Speaker 1: off inside. And outside, the street was chaos. There were
- 7:50Speaker 1: all these people who Shepard guessed must be neighbors shouting
- 7:53Speaker 1: and running around.
- 7:54Speaker 2: And there was debris everywhere.
- 7:56Speaker 1: Broken glass and splintered pieces of wood and chunks of
- 7:59Speaker 1: metal that had basically been blown out of the house
- 8:02Speaker 1: out onto the street. In the driveway of this home,
- 8:05Speaker 1: Shepard could see there was a man who had his
- 8:07Speaker 1: hands on his head and he looked frantic. And he
- 8:10Speaker 1: was yelling the name Kem over and over again as
- 8:13Speaker 1: he looked towards the destroyed house. And it was at
- 8:16Speaker 1: that point Shepard realized there must be someone or multiple
- 8:19Speaker 1: people inside of the house. And he really couldn't wait
- 8:23Speaker 1: for backup to go find them. So he and his
- 8:26Speaker 1: partner shouted for everyone to stay back. And then they
- 8:29Speaker 1: raced up the stairs into the smoke. Once Shepard was
- 8:32Speaker 1: inside the front foyer, he could tell there was no
- 8:35Speaker 1: active fire. Just lots of smoke kind of hanging in
- 8:37Speaker 1: the air. And he looked around and he saw there
- 8:40Speaker 1: was a six-inch hole on the wall right near the
- 8:42Speaker 1: front door. And there was another hole right in the
- 8:45Speaker 1: floor of the foyer. But even though he saw those
- 8:48Speaker 1: things pretty quickly, his attention quickly snapped to the body
- 8:51Speaker 1: of a woman who was on the ground. And it
- 8:53Speaker 1: was immediately clear that there was nothing they could do
- 8:56Speaker 1: for her. Literally half of her head was just missing.
- 9:00Speaker 1: In his entire career, Shepard had never worked a murder
- 9:03Speaker 1: case where the weapon was a bomb. But standing in
- 9:07Speaker 1: this blackened, destroyed foyer over the charred body of this woman...
- 9:12Speaker 1: Shepard felt sure that that is exactly what he was
- 9:15Speaker 1: looking at right now. Around this point, the officers from
- 9:18Speaker 1: the other squad car had now come up the stairs
- 9:21Speaker 1: and into the house. But Shepard told them to get back,
- 9:24Speaker 1: go back outside, because the scene was not safe.
- 9:27Speaker 2: To process yet.
- 9:28Speaker 1: They needed the fire department here, and they needed the
- 9:31Speaker 1: bomb squad, because there could.
- 9:32Speaker 2: Be more explosives. Not long afterwards, Shepard and the.
- 9:38Speaker 1: Other officers stood on the front lawn as members of
- 9:41Speaker 1: the fire department and the state police bomb squad combed
- 9:43Speaker 1: through the scene. By this point, Detective Shepard had learned
- 9:47Speaker 1: a bit more about what had happened. The dead woman
- 9:50Speaker 1: was Kem Wenger, and the man he had seen screaming
- 9:52Speaker 1: in the driveway was Kem's fiancée, Kurt Simon. Neighbors said
- 9:56Speaker 1: the pair had arrived around 10.30 p.m., and a couple
- 10:00Speaker 1: of the neighbors had actually noticed them before the blast
- 10:02Speaker 1: went off when they started unloading their car. These neighbors
- 10:05Speaker 1: said that they saw Kurt be the first one to
- 10:08Speaker 1: go inside the house, and when he did, he went
- 10:11Speaker 1: in carrying a box that he had pulled from the
- 10:12Speaker 1: back of the car. And then these neighbors said they
- 10:15Speaker 1: saw Kurt come out again empty-handed and but he went
- 10:19Speaker 1: down to the back of the car again and he
- 10:20Speaker 1: appeared to put something in the trunk. And at the
- 10:23Speaker 1: same time, Cam had grabbed a box from the car
- 10:26Speaker 1: and she went into the house by herself. And that's
- 10:29Speaker 1: when the explosion happened. Shepard was troubled by these accounts.
- 10:33Speaker 1: He thought it was suspicious that Kurt had been able
- 10:35Speaker 1: to walk into the house without getting hurt. And then
- 10:38Speaker 1: just seconds later, Cam goes in and her arrival seems
- 10:42Speaker 1: to have triggered the explosion. And so naturally, he wondered
- 10:46Speaker 1: if Maybe that box Kurt was carrying that he went
- 10:48Speaker 1: inside with, maybe that was the bomb and he planted it.
- 10:51Speaker 1: And then when he left, she goes in and it
- 10:53Speaker 1: obviously goes off. And then also he wondered, you know,
- 10:56Speaker 1: what had Kurt put back into his car after he
- 10:59Speaker 1: came out again? What did he put into the trunk?
- 11:01Speaker 1: But even more suspicious than any of that was what
- 11:04Speaker 1: a preliminary sweep of Kem's home had turned up in
- 11:07Speaker 1: the basement. And that was wires, gunpowder.
- 11:11Speaker 2: And fuses.
- 11:12Speaker 1: Shepard did not need to be a bomb expert to
- 11:14Speaker 1: know that these could be components of a bomb, and
- 11:17Speaker 1: that whoever killed Kem must have built the bomb right
- 11:20Speaker 1: there in her basement, which naturally made Kurt Simon the
- 11:25Speaker 1: number one suspect. So Shepard told a crime scene tech
- 11:28Speaker 1: to process Kurt's vehicle and pay extra attention to the trunk.
- 11:32Speaker 1: Then the detective walked over to Kurt himself. And Kurt
- 11:36Speaker 1: was rocking back and forth, and he was crying, and
- 11:38Speaker 1: he was still just saying Kem over and over and
- 11:41Speaker 1: over again. Shepard asked Kurt if he could tell him,
- 11:43Speaker 1: you know, what had happened here. And Kurt looked at
- 11:46Speaker 1: him with this vacant and shocked expression. And he told
- 11:49Speaker 1: the detective that he didn't know what happened. He'd gone
- 11:52Speaker 1: inside with a box and he had just started back
- 11:54Speaker 1: down the stairs when he felt the blast behind him.
- 11:57Speaker 1: And at this, Shepard's eyes narrowed. Because according to the
- 12:00Speaker 1: neighbor's account, they said Kurt was actually at his trunk,
- 12:04Speaker 1: you know, putting something back into the car at the
- 12:06Speaker 1: time of the explosion. But Kurt was now claiming that
- 12:09Speaker 1: he had actually only just exited the house, basically was
- 12:12Speaker 1: on the stairs as the blast happened.
- 12:15Speaker 2: Now, this discrepancy could just be a.
- 12:16Speaker 1: Result of confusion or Kurt could be lying to cover
- 12:20Speaker 1: up whatever he may or may not have done. But
- 12:23Speaker 1: independent of whatever this was, Shepard just told Kurt that
- 12:27Speaker 1: right now he was going down to the station for questioning.
- 12:40Speaker 1: Several hours later, a little before dawn on Sunday, May 23, 1993,
- 12:45Speaker 1: Detective Shepard walked out of the interrogation room in the Bloomington,
- 12:48Speaker 1: Illinois police station where he'd just spent more than an
- 12:51Speaker 1: hour hammering Kurt Simon with questions about his murdered fiancée.
- 12:55Speaker 1: And Kurt had been a pretty difficult interview. He had
- 12:58Speaker 1: plenty of ideas about other people who might have killed Kem.
- 13:02Speaker 1: He told Shepard that both the fathers of Kem's children,
- 13:05Speaker 1: Dale Fosdick and Todd Wenger, fought with her all the time.
- 13:08Speaker 2: And he said that Kem's estranged.
- 13:10Speaker 1: Mom, Wilma Lewis, who everybody called Cricket, was, quote, every
- 13:15Speaker 1: kind of evil. But Kurt had seemed to have no
- 13:17Speaker 1: information to offer about what he had actually witnessed before
- 13:21Speaker 1: the explosion. He had stuck to a story that he
- 13:24Speaker 1: had not seen anything suspicious at all in the foyer,
- 13:27Speaker 1: which Shepard found hard to believe. Kurt also had no
- 13:30Speaker 1: explanation for why the bomb exploded on Kem and not
- 13:33Speaker 1: on him. and he also denied knowing anything about the
- 13:36Speaker 1: bomb-making materials that had been found in Kemp's basement. Kurt
- 13:40Speaker 1: also said he hadn't put anything back in his trunk
- 13:43Speaker 1: around the time of the explosion, but he couldn't explain
- 13:46Speaker 1: why the neighbors said he had.
- 13:48Speaker 2: Shepard ultimately thought Kurt.
- 13:50Speaker 1: Was either the most unobservant person alive, or he was lying.
- 13:55Speaker 1: And on top of all that, Kurt had refused to
- 13:58Speaker 1: take a lie detector test. However, Shepard still had to
- 14:01Speaker 1: let him go home. The detective just didn't have anywhere
- 14:04Speaker 1: near enough evidence to arrest Kurt, at least not yet.
- 14:07Speaker 1: At this point, the bomb squad was actually still searching
- 14:10Speaker 1: the house for any additional bombs. So the crime scene
- 14:14Speaker 1: techs had not gotten in yet to begin to start
- 14:16Speaker 1: looking for forensic evidence. They actually hadn't even been able
- 14:19Speaker 1: to remove Kem's body yet. Shepard knew the day ahead
- 14:22Speaker 1: was going to be very busy. Other members of his
- 14:24Speaker 1: team had spent the entire night canvassing the neighborhood and
- 14:28Speaker 1: notifying and questioning Kem's family members. And now Shepard was
- 14:32Speaker 1: sure there was going to be quite a few interrogations
- 14:34Speaker 1: for him to conduct. He'd already been awake for 24
- 14:37Speaker 1: hours by this point, but he knew there was not
- 14:39Speaker 1: going to be any sleep soon. So he walked to
- 14:42Speaker 1: the office coffee pot and poured himself a cup of
- 14:45Speaker 1: coffee and stood there drinking it and thinking about how
- 14:48Speaker 1: he was going to nail Kurt Simon for murder. Meanwhile,
- 14:52Speaker 1: the bombing itself was making huge news all across Illinois.
- 14:56Speaker 1: By about 9 a.m. on Sunday morning, so less than
- 14:59Speaker 1: 12 hours after the explosion, There were all these reporters
- 15:03Speaker 1: milling around the front entrance of the police station, and
- 15:05Speaker 1: some were even going in and out of the lobby
- 15:07Speaker 1: trying to talk to people and get any information. And
- 15:11Speaker 1: Detective Shepard knew this story was only going to get
- 15:13Speaker 1: bigger because the Illinois State Bomb Squad had just called
- 15:16Speaker 1: in the Federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms, or ATF,
- 15:21Speaker 1: to help them process the scene. And all that meant
- 15:24Speaker 1: there was going to be an enormous amount of pressure
- 15:27Speaker 1: on Shepard, who was leading the investigations. And this pressure
- 15:30Speaker 1: was especially stressful this morning because the case he'd thought
- 15:35Speaker 1: he'd had against Kem's fiance, Kurt Simon, was starting to
- 15:38Speaker 1: fall apart. In all their interviews with Kem's friends, everyone
- 15:42Speaker 1: had said Kem and Kurt had a good relationship and
- 15:46Speaker 1: were excited to start their life together. The crime scene
- 15:49Speaker 1: unit had searched Kurt's car where neighbors claimed they had
- 15:52Speaker 1: seen him place something in the trunk right after the
- 15:54Speaker 1: explosion or manipulate something back there, you know, maybe a detonator.
- 15:58Speaker 1: But the crime scene techs had found nothing suspicious at
- 16:01Speaker 1: all back there. Shepard's partner had checked out Kurt's story
- 16:05Speaker 1: that he had spent the entire week previous to the
- 16:07Speaker 1: explosion in Iowa, where he lived, and he was moving
- 16:11Speaker 1: here to Bloomington to live with Kem. And they had
- 16:14Speaker 1: found out that that story was true. He really had
- 16:16Speaker 1: been in Iowa. And so this made Shepard's theory that
- 16:19Speaker 1: Kurt had assembled the bomb in Kem's basement a lot
- 16:23Speaker 1: less likely, since Kem was home all week and Kurt
- 16:26Speaker 1: wasn't there. Plus, Kem's babysitter had given police two additional
- 16:30Speaker 1: pieces of information that really widened.
- 16:33Speaker 2: The suspect pool.
- 16:34Speaker 1: First, she said that the spare key to Kem's house
- 16:37Speaker 1: had recently gone missing.
- 16:39Speaker 2: And the second thing.
- 16:40Speaker 1: Was, because the spare key was gone, Kem had gotten
- 16:43Speaker 1: locked out at some point and had to cut a
- 16:46Speaker 1: hole in the screen in the back door to get inside.
- 16:49Speaker 1: And so this meant that basically anybody could have gotten
- 16:51Speaker 1: inside of Kem's house to build the bomb if they
- 16:54Speaker 1: just went in through the back door. or if they,
- 16:56Speaker 1: you know, had the key, if they stole the key.
- 16:58Speaker 1: So Shepard's suspect list effectively had gone from Kurt to
- 17:03Speaker 1: all of Bloomington. Just before lunchtime, Shepard walked into the
- 17:11Speaker 1: station's interrogation room where Kem's ex-husband, Todd Wenger, was sitting
- 17:15Speaker 1: waiting for him. With Kem's fiancée, Kurt, looking less and
- 17:19Speaker 1: less likely as a suspect, the detectives had set their
- 17:22Speaker 1: sight on Kem's exes. Both Todd, who was the father
- 17:25Speaker 1: of Kem's daughter, and Dale Fosdick, who was the father
- 17:28Speaker 1: of Kem's son, not only had obvious motives, but they
- 17:31Speaker 1: also knew Kem's schedule, because each of them had been
- 17:34Speaker 1: watching one of her children over the weekend before she
- 17:37Speaker 1: was killed. Shepard's partner had actually already spoken to Dale,
- 17:41Speaker 1: basically a couple of hours after the explosion he had
- 17:44Speaker 1: spoken to him, while Shepard himself had been busy questioning Kurt.
- 17:48Speaker 1: And during that exchange, Dale had seemed shocked by Kem's death.
- 17:52Speaker 1: and he'd made what seemed like a good-faith effort to
- 17:54Speaker 1: answer the detectives' questions, although his son kept crying and
- 17:58Speaker 1: interrupting them. Dale did admit to having some tension with Kem,
- 18:01Speaker 1: but he also had an alibi. He'd been with family
- 18:04Speaker 1: in the morning and doing yard work in full view
- 18:07Speaker 1: of his neighbors in the afternoon and the evening. He'd
- 18:10Speaker 1: given Shepard's partner names and phone numbers of potential witnesses
- 18:13Speaker 1: that could have witnessed this, and a preliminary round of
- 18:16Speaker 1: calls to those witnesses had suggested that Dale was telling
- 18:20Speaker 1: the truth. But the detectives were conducting all their interviews
- 18:24Speaker 1: with very little information about the crime itself because they
- 18:28Speaker 1: didn't really know how the bomb that killed Kim actually worked.
- 18:32Speaker 2: They weren't sure if.
- 18:33Speaker 1: The killer had to be, you know, right nearby to
- 18:35Speaker 1: detonate it or if maybe it had been remote operated
- 18:38Speaker 1: so the killer could be farther away or maybe the bomb.
- 18:41Speaker 2: Was just set to some kind of timer.
- 18:43Speaker 1: Scientists at the ATF were trying to reconstruct the bomb
- 18:46Speaker 1: from all the shrapnel, but until they did that, Shepard
- 18:49Speaker 1: and his partner would not know exactly when the killer
- 18:52Speaker 1: would have been at Kemp's house. And none of the
- 18:54Speaker 1: neighbors had reported seeing anything unusual around the time of
- 18:58Speaker 1: the explosion that would help them narrow it down. So now,
- 19:01Speaker 1: as Detective Shepard sat down across the interrogation table from
- 19:05Speaker 1: Kemp's ex-husband Todd Wenger, he started with some general questions
- 19:08Speaker 1: about his relationship with Kemp.
- 19:10Speaker 2: And Todd seemed a little nervous.
- 19:12Speaker 1: Because he kept wringing his hands while he spoke. He
- 19:15Speaker 1: said that he and Kem did fight about child support costs.
- 19:18Speaker 1: And he said he had been very frustrated with her
- 19:20Speaker 1: because he didn't feel like she was always fair during
- 19:22Speaker 1: their divorce. But he insisted that that did not mean
- 19:25Speaker 1: he wanted to hurt her. He said their problems were
- 19:28Speaker 1: common for most divorced couples. Shepard did not put much
- 19:32Speaker 1: stock in that assertion because in his experience, divorce or
- 19:36Speaker 1: breakup plus money was.
- 19:38Speaker 2: A very good motive to hurt somebody.
- 19:40Speaker 1: So he asked Todd where he'd been all day on
- 19:42Speaker 1: the night of the blast. And at this question, Todd
- 19:45Speaker 1: definitely appeared to relax. And he launched into a very
- 19:48Speaker 1: detailed explanation of all this. He said he'd been with
- 19:51Speaker 1: his daughter and his new girlfriend, and both of them
- 19:54Speaker 1: would definitely vouch for him, along with several people who
- 19:57Speaker 1: had seen them during the day. By the time Shepard
- 19:59Speaker 1: sent Todd home, he really wasn't sure which of the exes,
- 20:02Speaker 1: Todd or Dale, he thought was a better candidate for
- 20:05Speaker 1: his killer. Both had clearly been fighting with Cam or
- 20:08Speaker 1: had real tension with Cam. but both had alibi witnesses. So,
- 20:13Speaker 1: Kem's fiancée, Kurt, might have had the opportunity to plant
- 20:17Speaker 1: the bomb if it was set shortly before the explosion,
- 20:20Speaker 1: but he had no clear motive. As for Todd and Dale,
- 20:24Speaker 1: they seemed to have plenty of motive, but no real opportunity.
- 20:27Speaker 2: And so Shepard decided.
- 20:28Speaker 1: His next move should be to talk again to Kem's family.
- 20:31Speaker 1: Maybe they would be.
- 20:32Speaker 2: Able to help him sort out his flawed suspect list.
- 20:42Speaker 1: On Sunday evening, so almost 24 hours after the explosion,
- 20:46Speaker 1: Detective Shepard knocked on the door of the home where.
- 20:48Speaker 2: Kem's sister, Joni, lived.
- 20:50Speaker 1: Now, by this point, another officer had already been there
- 20:53Speaker 1: to tell her and their mother, Cricket, about Kem's death.
- 20:57Speaker 1: But Shepard wanted to hear from them himself. Now, Shepard
- 21:00Speaker 1: had been told that Kem and her mother were estranged.
- 21:04Speaker 1: But even though he went in with some idea that
- 21:06Speaker 1: this interaction could be odd... Shepard was still really caught
- 21:10Speaker 1: off guard by the way Cricket was acting. It was
- 21:12Speaker 1: like way over the top. As Joanie welcomed Shepard inside
- 21:16Speaker 1: and offered him a seat on the couch, you know,
- 21:18Speaker 1: she was crying.
- 21:19Speaker 2: Her reaction to.
- 21:20Speaker 1: The death of her sister seemed very genuine. But Cricket
- 21:23Speaker 1: was not crying or showing any signs of being sad.
- 21:27Speaker 2: Instead, she was just furious.
- 21:29Speaker 1: And not about the murder or about losing her child
- 21:32Speaker 1: or about the fact that police had not made an
- 21:34Speaker 1: arrest yet. She was furious and about her child's life
- 21:39Speaker 1: insurance policy, which apparently Cam had not added her to
- 21:42Speaker 1: as a beneficiary, which meant that Cricket was not going
- 21:45Speaker 1: to be paid any money despite her child being killed.
- 21:49Speaker 1: You know, as Shepard's seeing this, he thought about how
- 21:51Speaker 1: Kurt had insisted in his interrogation that Cricket was a
- 21:56Speaker 1: horrible person, that she was evil. Now, at the time,
- 21:59Speaker 1: Shepard had not really taken that seriously because he figured
- 22:02Speaker 1: Kurt was trying to throw suspicion off of himself.
- 22:05Speaker 2: And lots of people don't like their mother-in-laws. But now
- 22:08Speaker 2: he was reconsidering.
- 22:09Speaker 1: He felt like he was witnessing someone who could be
- 22:11Speaker 1: just as bad as they were described to be. And
- 22:13Speaker 1: then when Shepard actually asked Cricket about her relationship with
- 22:17Speaker 1: her now deceased daughter, Cricket went off, but not about
- 22:21Speaker 1: her relationship really with Kem, but more about Kurt and
- 22:25Speaker 1: how Kurt had ruined Kem's life. She said Kurt was
- 22:29Speaker 1: a terrible partner for Kem and that he had destroyed
- 22:32Speaker 1: the best relationship she ever had which Cricket said was
- 22:35Speaker 1: with Dale Fosdick, the father of Kem's son. She also
- 22:39Speaker 1: said that Kurt had destroyed her, Cricket's, relationship with Kem too.
- 22:43Speaker 2: She said that she.
- 22:44Speaker 1: And her daughter used to talk every day, but once
- 22:47Speaker 1: Kurt was in the picture, she had been forbidden to
- 22:49Speaker 1: call the house at all. Now, to Shepard, Cricket seemed
- 22:52Speaker 1: completely scattered, bouncing from one subject to another and just
- 22:56Speaker 1: mad about everything. But he started to wonder if what
- 23:00Speaker 1: he was witnessing here was not just pure selfishness and
- 23:03Speaker 1: being a terrible person, but instead could be some kind
- 23:07Speaker 1: of very complicated grief or maybe even guilt or grief
- 23:11Speaker 1: and guilt combined. But one thing was definitely true, which
- 23:14Speaker 1: was Cricket really seemed to hate Kurt as much as
- 23:17Speaker 1: Kurt seemed to hate her. And Shepard just wasn't sure
- 23:21Speaker 1: which one of them was in the right. But it
- 23:23Speaker 1: was around this point in the conversation that Kem's sister, Joni,
- 23:26Speaker 1: cut in and she offered up a potential suspect idea
- 23:29Speaker 1: of her own. She said that Kem had recently left
- 23:32Speaker 1: a job where a colleague, a man named Phil Hartman,
- 23:35Speaker 1: had sexually harassed her. Following this, Kem had actually gotten
- 23:39Speaker 1: a settlement out of it, and apparently Phil had made
- 23:42Speaker 1: threats afterwards, including a promise to get her for this.
- 23:47Speaker 1: And so Joni said it was Phil who the police
- 23:50Speaker 1: really should be investigating for this murder. When Shepard finally
- 23:53Speaker 1: left the house, his head was spinning. He'd gone to
- 23:56Speaker 1: Cricket and Joni, hoping for clarity, sorting out his three suspects.
- 24:00Speaker 1: But he'd come away with less clarity than now five suspects.
- 24:04Speaker 1: Kem's fiancé Kurt, her exes Dale Fosdick and Todd Wenger,
- 24:07Speaker 1: her co-worker Phil Hartman, and frankly, Cricket herself. At this point,
- 24:12Speaker 1: it was late on Sunday night, and Shepard had been
- 24:14Speaker 1: awake since Saturday morning. And so he decided the best
- 24:17Speaker 1: thing he could do now was just go home and
- 24:19Speaker 1: get some sleep. That way, he could come back with
- 24:22Speaker 1: a clear head on Monday morning.
- 24:23Speaker 2: And maybe make sense of it then.
- 24:32Speaker 1: On the afternoon of Monday, May 24th, so almost two
- 24:36Speaker 1: days after the bombing that killed Kem Wenger, Detective Larry
- 24:39Speaker 1: Shepard walked through the front door of Kem's house, feeling
- 24:42Speaker 1: cautiously optimistic. On the night the bomb went off, the
- 24:45Speaker 1: police had to evacuate so the state bomb squad and
- 24:48Speaker 1: the ATF could make sure there were no additional explosives.
- 24:51Speaker 1: But finally, the night before, the scene had officially been cleared,
- 24:55Speaker 1: which meant Shepard could now enter the house and actually
- 24:58Speaker 1: look around for himself. Inside the house, he could see
- 25:02Speaker 1: that the foyer was still in complete disarray, although Kem's
- 25:05Speaker 1: body by this point had been removed and autopsied. There
- 25:09Speaker 1: were also now all these little flags and markers all
- 25:11Speaker 1: over the place, pointing out how she'd been positioned on
- 25:14Speaker 1: the floor and where various bomb fragments and other evidence
- 25:17Speaker 1: had been collected. And also now, because the feds had
- 25:20Speaker 1: completed a preliminary assessment of the bomb, Shepard could actually
- 25:25Speaker 1: imagine how the bombing went down. There was a six-inch
- 25:28Speaker 1: hole in the foyer floor. And Shepard now knew that
- 25:31Speaker 1: that was where the bomb had been placed, right there
- 25:33Speaker 1: on the ground, probably concealed in some kind of a
- 25:35Speaker 1: small box or package.
- 25:37Speaker 2: From the autopsy, which had.
- 25:39Speaker 1: Shown distinct damage to Kem's right hand, Shepard knew that
- 25:43Speaker 1: what likely happened was that she had spotted the package
- 25:46Speaker 1: and picked it up with her right hand, which then
- 25:49Speaker 1: triggered the explosion. And this was actually the single most
- 25:52Speaker 1: important thing the feds had been able to determine, that
- 25:55Speaker 1: the bomb was motion-activated.
- 25:58Speaker 2: This was huge because.
- 25:59Speaker 1: It meant the bomber did not have to be at
- 26:02Speaker 1: or even near Kem's house to trigger the explosion manually,
- 26:06Speaker 1: which meant they could have left this thing there any
- 26:08Speaker 1: time during the weekend. This also explained why there were
- 26:12Speaker 1: a bunch of wires and bomb-making materials found in the basement.
- 26:15Speaker 1: Because if the bomb had been built somewhere else and
- 26:17Speaker 1: transported to Kem's house in, say, a car, the bomb
- 26:21Speaker 1: could have exploded along the way. So what likely happened
- 26:24Speaker 1: was that Kem's killer... brought a partially finished bomb to
- 26:28Speaker 1: Kem's house that would not detonate as they carried it,
- 26:31Speaker 1: and then they put the final touches on it right
- 26:33Speaker 1: on site once it was actually in position in the foyer.
- 26:37Speaker 1: This also meant the bomber had to be pretty sophisticated
- 26:40Speaker 1: because building a bomb.
- 26:41Speaker 2: Like this took technical skill.
- 26:43Speaker 1: It took some intelligence and real attention to detail because
- 26:47Speaker 1: if you don't have those things, you can set off
- 26:49Speaker 1: the bomb and kill yourself. And so in Shepard's mind,
- 26:52Speaker 1: this likely took Kem's mother, Cricket, right off the table.
- 26:56Speaker 1: She just did not strike him as organized enough or
- 26:58Speaker 1: really coherent enough to build this type of bomb. She
- 27:01Speaker 1: just seemed way too scatterbrained. Kem's exes, Dale Fosdick and
- 27:06Speaker 1: Todd Wenger, both worked with machines for a living, so
- 27:09Speaker 1: they were definitely still in. And her fiancé, Kurt, was
- 27:12Speaker 1: highly educated, so he was still in. Shepard wasn't sure
- 27:15Speaker 1: about Phil Hartman, the co-worker who Kem had accused of
- 27:18Speaker 1: sexually harassing her. He had reached Phil by phone that morning,
- 27:21Speaker 1: and Phil had told him he was working in Louisiana
- 27:24Speaker 1: at the time the bomb.
- 27:25Speaker 2: Went off, hundreds of miles away.
- 27:27Speaker 1: But Shepard knew just being physically far away from the
- 27:30Speaker 1: bomb when it went off was not a perfect alibi,
- 27:33Speaker 1: because it was motion activated. You could place it and
- 27:35Speaker 1: then travel and be far away. But at the same time,
- 27:39Speaker 1: Louisiana was really far away, and Phil really didn't seem
- 27:43Speaker 1: to have any technical background that Shepard had found.
- 27:46Speaker 2: So Phil was still in, but less so.
- 27:49Speaker 1: As Shepard stood there in the blackened, destroyed foyer, looking
- 27:52Speaker 1: at the partially burned pages of Modern Bride magazines that
- 27:55Speaker 1: had been blown all over the room, he thought about
- 27:58Speaker 1: the fact that whoever had done this had to have
- 28:00Speaker 1: been very comfortable in Kem's house. They had gotten inside
- 28:04Speaker 1: the house at some point and then clearly spent time
- 28:07Speaker 1: in the basement tinkering with the bomb.
- 28:09Speaker 2: Then they came up and they're in the foyer setting
- 28:11Speaker 2: the bomb up.
- 28:12Speaker 1: I mean, that's someone who's pretty confident they're not going
- 28:15Speaker 1: to get caught doing all this inside the house.
- 28:17Speaker 2: That's That's serious boldness.
- 28:20Speaker 1: And so Shepard was starting to feel pretty confident that
- 28:23Speaker 1: whoever had done this was either family to Kem or
- 28:27Speaker 1: as close to her as family. Shepard left Kem's house
- 28:31Speaker 1: thinking about how he might search both Dale and Todd's
- 28:34Speaker 1: places of work to see if any of the machinery
- 28:36Speaker 1: they used shared parts with the bomb. But as he
- 28:39Speaker 1: stepped off the final step onto the sidewalk, he heard
- 28:43Speaker 1: a voice call out behind him, and he turned to
- 28:45Speaker 1: see a Bloomington police officer jogging over towards him. The
- 28:48Speaker 1: bombing had created real panic, not just in Bloomington, but
- 28:51Speaker 1: across Illinois. People were now terrified that there was going
- 28:55Speaker 1: to be a bomb that would show up on their
- 28:57Speaker 1: front porch. They would see a package they didn't recognize,
- 29:00Speaker 1: and they would call the police with fears that that
- 29:02Speaker 1: could be an explosive. I mean, it was like this
- 29:04Speaker 1: paranoia had swept the state. And so in response to that,
- 29:08Speaker 1: specifically in Bloomington, the police had a much stronger presence
- 29:11Speaker 1: out on the street. And Shepard had also asked officers
- 29:15Speaker 1: to re-canvass Kem's neighborhood to question the neighbors again, now
- 29:18Speaker 1: that they knew more about the bomb itself. Specifically, that
- 29:21Speaker 1: the bomb was motion activated, which meant the bomber did
- 29:25Speaker 1: not need to be there basically right before it went off.
- 29:28Speaker 2: They were in the house.
- 29:29Speaker 1: They were building the bomb days before. They planted the
- 29:32Speaker 1: bomb in advance of the bombing. So there was a
- 29:35Speaker 1: bigger window of time that they were wondering who was
- 29:38Speaker 1: at Kem's house, who was acting suspicious near Kem's house
- 29:42Speaker 1: in the days leading up to the bombing. Those were
- 29:45Speaker 1: the questions they had for the neighbors. And so this
- 29:48Speaker 1: officer that was running over to Shepard, that's what they
- 29:50Speaker 1: had been doing, re-canvassing the neighborhood. And when he reached Shepard,
- 29:54Speaker 1: he told him he'd found something. Shepard eagerly followed the
- 29:58Speaker 1: officer over to one of Kem's neighbor's houses, and there
- 30:01Speaker 1: he saw a little girl, maybe 10 or 11 years old,
- 30:04Speaker 1: standing nervously next to her father. And based on what
- 30:13Speaker 1: this little girl would say, along with evidence collected by
- 30:16Speaker 1: the Bloomington Police Department and the ATF, this is a
- 30:20Speaker 1: reconstruction of what authorities believe happened to Kem Wenger on
- 30:23Speaker 1: May 22, 1993. At around 10.30 that morning, the killer
- 30:35Speaker 1: pulled up in their car outside of Kem's house. They
- 30:38Speaker 1: picked up a bag that was sitting on their passenger seat,
- 30:41Speaker 1: which contained a partially completed pipe bomb and some tools.
- 30:45Speaker 1: With this in hand, they got out of the car
- 30:47Speaker 1: and they walked up to the front door and they
- 30:49Speaker 1: pulled a key from their pocket. This was the same
- 30:52Speaker 1: key they had stolen from under the doormat.
- 30:54Speaker 2: A few months earlier.
- 30:55Speaker 1: They used the key to unlock the front door and
- 30:57Speaker 1: they let themselves inside. The killer then walked down to
- 31:00Speaker 1: the basement, where they took all the various items from
- 31:02Speaker 1: the bag and placed them on the counter, and they
- 31:05Speaker 1: got to work. The killer was not worried about getting caught.
- 31:09Speaker 1: They knew this neighborhood very well, and everybody in this
- 31:12Speaker 1: neighborhood knew them, and they would not find it suspicious.
- 31:14Speaker 2: At all to see them there.
- 31:16Speaker 1: Plus, they knew they would have an alibi for the
- 31:18Speaker 1: time period when the bomb actually would go off. Once
- 31:22Speaker 1: the bomb was mostly assembled, the killer gathered up most
- 31:25Speaker 1: of their things. They left behind some random supplies in
- 31:28Speaker 1: the basement, but figured it didn't really matter since the
- 31:30Speaker 1: explosion would take care of everything. Feeling very confident in
- 31:34Speaker 1: their worksmanship so far, the killer walked back upstairs and
- 31:37Speaker 1: placed the nearly completed bomb on the floor in the foyer.
- 31:41Speaker 1: And then as they completed the final steps, they could
- 31:44Speaker 1: feel sweat beating on their forehead because if they did
- 31:47Speaker 1: anything wrong, the bomb would go off. But the killer
- 31:51Speaker 1: got it all done and they stood up very slowly
- 31:53Speaker 1: and carefully and walked back out through the front door.
- 31:56Speaker 1: But before they could get in their car and drive away,
- 32:00Speaker 1: they saw one of the neighborhood girls playing in the
- 32:02Speaker 1: yard next door. and the girl looked at them and
- 32:04Speaker 1: waved and said hello.
- 32:06Speaker 2: And the killer, who felt like they belonged there and
- 32:09Speaker 2: no one.
- 32:09Speaker 1: Will remember me, they waved back. Well, the little girl
- 32:13Speaker 1: remembered that interaction, and she would tell Detective Shepard who
- 32:17Speaker 1: she saw leaving Kem's house. It was none other than
- 32:20Speaker 1: Kem's ex-boyfriend and the father of her son.
- 32:22Speaker 2: Dale Fostick.
- 32:25Speaker 1: Dale was very upset that Kem had broken up with
- 32:28Speaker 1: him and was now seeing Kurt. He had also heard
- 32:31Speaker 1: from Cricket, who he was still very close with, that
- 32:34Speaker 1: Kurt had talked about adopting his own son, and this
- 32:37Speaker 1: enraged him. He couldn't stand the idea that his own
- 32:40Speaker 1: boy might grow up calling another man dad. So he
- 32:44Speaker 1: used the electronic skills and the tools he'd acquired from
- 32:47Speaker 1: his hobby of building model airplanes to build a pipe bomb.
- 32:51Speaker 1: And so ultimately, Dale was caught, because of his entitlement,
- 32:55Speaker 1: to feel like he could just stroll into Kemp's house
- 32:57Speaker 1: anytime he wanted. Because he did that all the time,
- 33:00Speaker 1: despite her saying not to. he became a familiar face
- 33:04Speaker 1: in the neighborhood. And that's why that little girl remembered him.
- 33:08Speaker 1: After months of forensic work that tied Dale even more
- 33:11Speaker 1: closely to the bomb, he was finally arrested and found
- 33:14Speaker 1: guilty of first-degree murder and sentenced to 61 years in prison.
- 33:19Speaker 1: But he would only serve 14 of those years because
- 33:21Speaker 1: in 2010, while still behind bars.
- 33:23Speaker 2: Dale died of a sudden illness.
- 33:34Speaker 1: Thank you so much for watching. Let me know what
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