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- 0:00So the question today is why two people can drink the same way
- 0:04for years. One walks away while the other
- 0:07can't stop. Many people assume addiction is
- 0:10simply about willpower, discipline.
- 0:12I'll just choose to change my life.
- 0:14I'll just take up new habits, I'll start working out, I'll
- 0:17join a gym, I will see a therapist and things will just
- 0:21get better. I will get my choice back, my
- 0:23control back and we're back. Welcome everybody to recovering
- 0:27out loud podcast. I'm Anthony.
- 0:29I'm an alcoholic and an addict. And today I want to talk about
- 0:33why some people get addicted to drugs, alcohol, and others
- 0:37don't. Others seem to be taking it or
- 0:40leaving it, taking it with immunity, not having any
- 0:42problems caused and no consequences of their actions
- 0:45and drinking and using and they can turn it off.
- 0:48I was not one of these people. I'm not one of these people.
- 0:50I was evidenced by when I relapsed after 7 1/2 years,
- 0:54going into a spiral of shame, depression, and uncontrollable
- 0:58drinking and using. I couldn't stop and it was so
- 1:00hard for me to come back into recovery.
- 1:02And I work with tons of people that have the same experience.
- 1:05They once they start, they lose power and control.
- 1:08Some people go for months without drinking or using, but
- 1:12inevitably, invariably, they find every time they pick up
- 1:15they cannot get out of it. They cannot stop.
- 1:17They lose control or power and choice in the matter.
- 1:21The obsession that every abnormal drinker can control one
- 1:25day be able to control his drinking or her drinking is the
- 1:29great obsession of every abnormal drinker and every
- 1:31alcoholic. Modern research suggests
- 1:34addiction is influenced by multiple interacting factors.
- 1:37So it's multi layered. There's it's not just one reason
- 1:40that I am different than my fellows.
- 1:42The central idea here is that addiction appear addiction risk
- 1:46appears to come from combination a combination of biological,
- 1:50psychological and environmental and learning factors.
- 1:54So in this episode I'm going to talk about genetics.
- 1:56I'm going to talk about brain chemistry, trauma and coping,
- 2:00environmental exposure and learned behavior.
- 2:03These are all factors that contribute.
- 2:05So first I want to talk about genetics factor.
- 2:08Research has found that family history increases the risk of
- 2:11substance use disorders. Many studies estimate genetic
- 2:16vulnerability contributes roughly 40 to 60% of addiction
- 2:20risk, though estimates vary by study and substance, so 40 to
- 2:2460%. You're 40 to 60% more likely to
- 2:28be an addict or alcoholic if your dad was one or if your
- 2:31grandfather was one. Again, it varies, but this is
- 2:34just a general statement, general guideline.
- 2:36If addiction runs in the family, the risk appears higher.
- 2:40So if your dad, like I said, was an alcoholic, is an alcoholic,
- 2:44chances are you might be 1 and I You hear this throughout the
- 2:47rooms of recovery. A lot of people tell their
- 2:49experience, strength and hope their experience is that their
- 2:52parents were Alcoholics or their grandparents or it runs in the
- 2:55family and then others like myself, you'll find that there
- 2:58is no addiction in the family. I I traced it back all the way
- 3:01to my great grandparents and we think that none of them were
- 3:05alcoholic or drank abnormally. So genetics may influence how
- 3:09rewarding substances feel. So it might feel better for me
- 3:12to do a hit of cocaine than my friend.
- 3:14I get a more of a reward out of it and then I chase that dragon
- 3:17more than the next guy. Impulsivity.
- 3:20Genetics influence how rewarding substance feels.
- 3:23Impulsivity and stress response. Some people may experience
- 3:27stronger dopamine responses from substances and I I find that I'd
- 3:31fall into this category. I just like the effect produced
- 3:34by substances more than the average person.
- 3:37So the important point is genetics do not mean destiny.
- 3:40It indicates increased vulnerability, not
- 3:43inevitability. So it's not 100% certain, but it
- 3:46is increased vulnerability. You're more vulnerable if it's
- 3:48runs in the family. Second topic.
- 3:51Second point, brain reward systems.
- 3:54So I'm going to talk about dopamine and the reward
- 3:56circuits. Substances activate the brain's
- 3:59reward pathway. So dopamine.
- 4:01The pathway includes areas such as in the brain, the nucleus
- 4:05accumbens, the prefrontal cortex, and the ventral tag
- 4:10mental area. So the brain is wired to repeat
- 4:15behaviors that feel rewarding. If I do a line of coke, I enjoy
- 4:18it. I'm going to chase that feeling
- 4:20for the rest of my life since I don't get help chase that first
- 4:23high. That's why you often hear people
- 4:24saying they're chasing the first high their first 5 minutes.
- 4:29When the drugs and alcohol used to work for them, it made our
- 4:31problems go away or whatever. The effect produced for it's
- 4:34individual. It varies by individual.
- 4:37Drugs and alcohol can stimulate reward signals far beyond
- 4:40natural rewards. So looking at a sunset might not
- 4:43give me the same amount of dopamine or eating a steak or
- 4:46rewarding dinner might not give me the same amount of dopamine
- 4:49as say drugs and alcohol do. And I just, that's why you hear
- 4:51a lot of people, they lose the joy in recovery and simple
- 4:54things In the beginning, it's hard to enjoy the things that
- 4:58used to give you dopamine. So essentially, this may make
- 5:01substances more difficult for certain individuals to stop
- 5:03using because the reward is just so great.
- 5:06Next point, trauma and emotional regulation.
- 5:09So the psychological drivers substance use often functions as
- 5:14a coping mechanism. I am coping with my trauma, with
- 5:17my emotional regulation. It helps me quiet the noise in
- 5:20my head. It helps fear go away.
- 5:22It helps self pity go away. When I drink or use, my problems
- 5:25seem to vanish. They seem to disappear.
- 5:28This is also why a lot of people use the spiritual method in 12
- 5:31step recovery or other practices because we come in here with
- 5:37lack of power control. That is our dilemma.
- 5:40We have a God sized hole you hear some people say and it can
- 5:43only be replaced. That solution that alcohol
- 5:46provided can only be replaced by a spiritual experience for a lot
- 5:49of people, not everybody. And if you want to hear about
- 5:51more spirituality, I have a whole episode on spirituality
- 5:54and how it benefits recovery. Many people use substances to
- 5:57regulate anxiety, depression, emotional pain, trauma
- 6:01responses. So there's something called ACE.
- 6:04There's an ACE test you can take.
- 6:07It's called adverse childhood experiences.
- 6:10Research on adverse childhood experiences suggests higher ACE
- 6:13scores are associated with increased risk of substance
- 6:17misuse later in life. So this is a test you can find
- 6:19online. It asks you a series of
- 6:21questions such as was your one of your parents an alcoholic?
- 6:24Did you have a troubled home? Were your parents around?
- 6:27And then it gives you a score based on your adverse childhood
- 6:31experience. So it could be associated with
- 6:33increased risk of substance misuse later in life.
- 6:36For some people, substances temporarily reduce emotional
- 6:40distress. This can reinforce the behavior
- 6:42through relief. So my life is a mess.
- 6:44I turn to substances for relief. Addiction may develop not only
- 6:49from pleasure seeking, but from pain relief.
- 6:52So I'm not only just trying to have fun, I'm trying to escape
- 6:55pain. I'm trying to escape myself.
- 6:56The thoughts, the noise in my head Next environmental
- 7:00environment and exposure. So the environmental influences
- 7:04availability and social environment strongly affect
- 7:07substance use patterns. So if I grew up in an
- 7:10environment, in a trap house for say, let's say I'm, I might be
- 7:14more at risk. If I grew up around parents that
- 7:16were constantly gambling or using drugs or partying to
- 7:20escape, I might be. I'm more likely to contribute to
- 7:23that, to fall into that pattern. Cultural norms around drinking
- 7:27or drug use vary widely. Some examples of this are social
- 7:31groups where heavy drinking is normalized cultures.
- 7:34Italian culture is one of them. Wine at dinner every night,
- 7:37early exposure during adolescence.
- 7:39So if you, you hear a lot of people come into recovery, they
- 7:41started drinking at 13 or 12 or 14.
- 7:44So the developmental vulnerability around this is
- 7:46that the adolescent brain is still developing, especially the
- 7:50prefrontal cortex responsible for impulse control.
- 7:53Early exposure may increase the likelihood of later problem.
- 7:56OK, next we have learning and conditioning.
- 7:59So behavioral learning addiction can involve habit forming and
- 8:02conditioning. Certain cues can become
- 8:04associated with substance use. So places, music, people,
- 8:08emotional states. That's why we get triggered by
- 8:10these things. In early recovery.
- 8:11We walk by a bar we used to drink at, we hear a song we used
- 8:15to party to or a festival that brings up a lot of emotions.
- 8:20People we hang around with. I hang around, you know, I was
- 8:22talking to a guy today that was hanging out.
- 8:25He started talking to a guy that he used to party with and that
- 8:28got him back into relapse because he associated the fun
- 8:31times with partying with that guy.
- 8:34A memory starts to circulate around in your head.
- 8:37Another example would be someone that always drinks with when
- 8:39stressed after work. You start to build that pathway
- 8:41in your brain. I feel stressed because of work.
- 8:44I drink. It makes it go away.
- 8:45And then your brain adapts to that and learns the behavior.
- 8:48Overtime. Stress itself becomes a trigger.
- 8:52These are reinforcement loops, so temporary relief reinforces
- 8:55the behavior. I like that thing.
- 8:57My brain likes that thing. I'm going to go to it whenever I
- 9:00feel emotional stress. The brain learns the
- 9:03association. It's like smoking and coffee.
- 9:05If you have a hard time quitting smoking, you know, I know it's a
- 9:09lot harder whenever you have a coffee because your brain
- 9:11associates nicotine with caffeine.
- 9:13OK, so we have the interaction model.
- 9:16Addiction risk likely results from multiple interacting
- 9:19factors rather than one cause possible interaction.
- 9:22Examples are genetic vulnerability, early trauma,
- 9:26high exposure environment, and stress coping patterns.
- 9:29You put these things all together and it is very hard to
- 9:32get sober. So conceptually each factor may
- 9:35increase vulnerability. Combined factors may
- 9:38significantly increase risk. It's interesting because I
- 9:41didn't have a lot of these these factors in my life, but I
- 9:45definitely had the stress coping patterns and the maybe some
- 9:48trauma but nothing big T related.
- 9:50I didn't have, you know, I had a good childhood growing up, but I
- 9:53think I just built over a over time.
- 9:57I related stress and emotional pain.
- 9:59I wanted to escape myself with drugs.
- 10:01It worked for a long time until it didn't.
- 10:03Some individuals may be able to stop easily.
- 10:06Others may experience powerful biological and psychological
- 10:09reinforcement. This is why treatment and
- 10:11therapy is so essential in the early going, especially because
- 10:14we need to understand these things, the science behind the
- 10:16biology behind it, so that we can rewire our
- 10:19neurotransmitters. So the key take away points here
- 10:23are addiction is rarely explained by a single factor.
- 10:26There's usually multi layered. It's usually multi layered risk
- 10:29appears influenced by genetics, brain chemistry, trauma,
- 10:33environment, learning and conditioning.
- 10:35A question to reflect on here is if a if addiction risk is
- 10:39influenced by many factors, how should society think about
- 10:42treatment and recovery? So there's not just one problem
- 10:45and there's not just one solution in in this state.
- 10:48If you're looking at it from this perspective, how do we
- 10:51solve these problems? For me, it's important to know
- 10:54that when I'm coming out of treatment, I can't go back to
- 10:57the same environment. I have to rewire my brain.
- 10:59I have to rewire, relearn behaviors, relearn how to have
- 11:03fun without drugs and alcohol, how to handle stress, how to
- 11:07cope with emotional behavior, emotional disturbance.
- 11:12I need a power greater than myself.
- 11:14I need spirituality. I need a program of recovery
- 11:17that's going to keep me connected to something greater
- 11:19than me. And not just this religious God
- 11:21that I talk about. It's not religious God, not just
- 11:23spirituality, but spirituality can be, can include community,
- 11:28which is so important. You know, whenever I'm spinning
- 11:30out about things in my head, my life is seemingly the sky is
- 11:34falling on me. I can turn to other recovering
- 11:37addicts and Alcoholics to achieve sobriety.
- 11:40I can get help. I can talk about my issues.
- 11:43I can get it out. I always say this, but secrets
- 11:46keep you sick. You're only as sick as your
- 11:47secrets, so get it out. Understanding all of these
- 11:50influences may help reduce stigma and support more
- 11:53effective recovery approaches. These people are not just
- 11:56stupid. They're not just looking to have
- 11:57fun. They're not just homeless people
- 11:59trying to have a good time or lazy or it's.
- 12:03There's many factors. So the next time you look at,
- 12:06let's say a homeless person or someone smoking crack on the
- 12:08street, think about the factors. Have some empathy.
- 12:11There's a reason that this person is escaping pain or
- 12:15seeking relief. There's a reason and it's not
- 12:17just surface level. It's deeper than that.
- 12:20Go deeper and this might help you understand yourself too.
- 12:22The reason why you use and drink.
- 12:24It's deeper than just I'm trying to have fun.
- 12:26I hear all the time people saying I just liked cocaine
- 12:29because it was fun. It's deeper than that.
- 12:31You are usually we are escaping something.
- 12:34There is some sort of coping going on.
- 12:36There's some sort of relief that is needed and that's why
- 12:39recovery comes in and replaces the drugs and the alcohol.
- 12:42For me, it's a recovery program. It's a spirituality.
- 12:45It's a power greater than myself that I don't understand on most
- 12:47days and I don't need to understand it, but I know that
- 12:51it's myself will availably nothing.
- 12:53I am not going to get through this simply by trying harder.
- 12:56I need outside help. I am beyond human aid.
- 13:00This is not something that I am going to will myself out of.
- 13:04If you're like me, you tried everything before you came into
- 13:07recovery. You tried all of these rehabs
- 13:10and sanitariums and treatment centers and treatment programs
- 13:15and books, self help books and exercise and meditation and
- 13:19these things individually don't work for us.
- 13:23I came in here because everything else failed recovery.
- 13:27The community I'm a part of was the last house on the block.
- 13:30I didn't willingly come to recovery.
- 13:32I didn't willingly go to rehab. I had to go.
- 13:35I had to be forced there by outside factors.
- 13:37And then I develop, begin to develop a way of living.
- 13:41I begin to develop principles in my life where I can live happily
- 13:45and without suffering most of the time if I take some simple
- 13:50action and follow some direction.
- 13:51I think, too, that it's beneficial to stop obsessing.
- 13:55For a long time I obsessed over the fact that why can't I just
- 13:57drink like other people? Surrender that idea today.
- 14:01Try to surrender the idea that I don't drink like other people.
- 14:04I just don't drink like the Bud Light commercial.
- 14:06That's not been my experience. That is not how I party.
- 14:09That is not I don't fantasize about a couple drinks on the
- 14:11patio today. I fantasize about Tony Montana's
- 14:14Scarface, that is my idea of fun and escape.
- 14:18I don't enjoy these first couple of drinks and that that is not
- 14:21what I obsess over or fantasize about.
- 14:24I am an all or nothing guy. I go balls to the wall every
- 14:28time. I don't kneel.
- 14:29I don't know moderation and that is evidenced by other areas of
- 14:32my life. I get obsessed about things.
- 14:33I go all in and that can be used as a superpower, as a strength.
- 14:37Today I can put that into my work.
- 14:39I can put that into my recovery. I can put that into helping
- 14:41others. I can put that into this
- 14:42podcast. It is a beautiful thing to use
- 14:45to your advantage. We have an unfair advantage in
- 14:48recovery. I truly believe that today.
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- 14:55We've gotten a lot of new listeners lately and I
- 14:57appreciate every single one of you.
- 14:58I love you. Don't ever forget recovery is
- 15:01simple, not easy.