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Kojima switches to Xbox, a whole lot of Zelda, and something brings a tear to Tom's eye | Respec Ramblings · Respec: Video Game Ramblings

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  Guess who's back, back again. I am back. It's
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  time for this week's edition of the Respec Ramblings
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  podcast. I'm here, Alex Donaldson. I'm here with
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  Tom Ory, Dave Breenes and Mikhail Badnani. I've
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  been away for a few weeks. I had Gamescom and
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  then I came back from Gamescom hideously ill,
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  which some of it admittedly was self -inflicted.
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  And also very, very busy because there was a
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  lot of games. So I'm back. Tom, you've held down
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  the fort admirably. everyone was like everyone
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  was like you're amazing at hosting this all the
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  comments if you go to the youtube version of
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  this the comments are flooded with like tom's
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  the best get keep tom's the host he's so funny
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  they'll be sad i'm back but they don't have to
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  be sad for very long because i'm going to take
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  a game show so it's back to you next week anyway
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  how are you doing aside from you know being adulated
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  with praise how's it going tom yeah right just
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  uh There's quite a lot of stuff happening on
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  the site at the moment. There's some games out.
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  Some games are good. Some games, not so good.
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  That's a thing that happens. But yeah, it's all
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  right. This is going to be a pretty packed episode.
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  A lot's happened this week. Brains, how are you
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  doing? Feeling good. I'm feeling tired. I'm ready
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  for games to start happening now. I hate to tell
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  you, we're only at the start. This is where it
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  goes crazy for a bit. Mikhail, how are you coping
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  with the madness? I'm good. I'm good. Just literally
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  put like five games on download an hour before
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  we started recording it. And I made sure to pause
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  them because I don't want to like mess that up.
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  But yeah, a lot, a lot happening. Enjoying like
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  watching some classic movies as well. We'll talk
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  about that as well. But yeah, otherwise good.
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  Well, yeah, we'll talk about that. I think so
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  much has happened. Let's just jump clean in to
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  our first news topic this week, which is, of
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  course, had a big week with Nintendo. So we had
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  two Nintendo Directs, which I think, is this
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  the first time ever we've had two Directs in
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  one week? I think that's gotta be. I think that's
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  gotta be correct. I can't remember the last time
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  they were done. a standalone and a showcase one
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  for lots of stuff but yeah i feel like it has
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  happened but i'm really struggling i'm really
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  struggling yeah i think they've just done a movie
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  like a dedicated movie thing and then that would
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  be different yeah but here we had like a proper
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  what happened with the mario thing remember when
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  they had the the 3d all -stars like which was
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  was that a separate thing before the normal direct
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  or was that just its own thing whenever there's
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  a big anniversary for one of the big series that
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  that the big anniversary always gets its own
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  direct But the difference here was that the two
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  were next to each other, like, you know, a day
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  apart. I'm quite surprised. I guess you're asking
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  people to sit down for nearly two hours then.
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  I was going to say, I'm quite surprised they
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  didn't just back -to -back them because they've
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  done that before where they've handed off a direct
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  into a specialist direct. And they quite often
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  do the handoff into Treehouse Live, right? In
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  fact, they did that this week. That would have
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  been like five hours then. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah,
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  first of all, we had the Zelda 40th. Obviously,
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  there's a main thing we're all going to have
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  some opinions on, I think. But before that, they
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  announced the title of the Zelda movie. Surprised
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  by it. I was a bit surprised. Well, I think,
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  to be fair, right, they did the whole thing of
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  the Super Mario Bros. movie. It wasn't called
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  Super Mario Bros. It was called the Super Mario
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  Bros. movie. And so... the legend of Zelda well
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  this is the thing people could have assumed that
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  they could have done that again but the thing
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  that I've been saying since the start is clearly
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  it's not going to be like I saw someone on blue
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  sky some some miserable bastard going like oh
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  it's just going to be do you know how little
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  that narrows it down well yeah but they were
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  going oh it's just going to be member berry slop
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  and I was like man like that's what the Mario
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  movie is because there's been studies done and
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  unfortunately it's ruined children's movies as
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  any dad will tell you or mom but um it hasn't
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  ruined them there are good ones out there like
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  you get your incantos stuff like that but there's
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  there's literally a study about oh who knows
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  if it's down to tiktok or what but like kids
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  attention spans are x amount of time and that's
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  turned into studios like illumination going well
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  if you make a movie there has to be something
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  new and shiny every 90 seconds or whatever And
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  so that is the logic through which the Mario
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  movie is made. I think you could probably sit
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  there at the stopwatch and time, you know, how
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  long before each major, oh, something new and
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  exciting is happening. But this is very, like,
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  even that, they didn't show anything in the direct.
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  They just showed that logo treatment. But you
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  know what that logo treatment reminded me of?
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  One million percent. Middle chunk. Middle chunk
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  to back half. of the harry potter movies the
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  harry potter movies started out with those logos
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  that are like you know whimsical oh kids movie
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  and then as obviously they become teenagers and
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  they start doing this minor key version of that
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  john williams theme right and all that sort of
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  stuff and it gave me those vibes and so it strikes
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  me that that is the audience that they're going
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  to be going for they're going to be going for
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  13 14 15 year olds um so zelda just has more
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  of it obvious plot as well right it has more
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  of an obvious thing that can run through the
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  actual story rather than just character reveals
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  like it's like Mario was always going to be a
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  hard one for like an engaging story right because
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  essentially like you jump around fight bosses
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  and then do the same thing again um Zelda always
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  has a more obvious like classic story I guess
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  um yeah not much to say about it it's like it's
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  a it's a it's a title yeah i think we'll probably
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  get a trailer pretty soon now but i'm hopeful
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  for it because like the guy they've got directing
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  it directed those maze runner movies which of
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  the slew of like harry potter's big we want to
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  make young adult novels into movies where there
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  was a lot of those in that period of like the
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  2010s the maze runner trilogy was among the better
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  ones and then he also did kingdom of the planet
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  the apes which is pretty good um and like you
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  look at it and it's like the producer's the guy
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  who did all the early marvel films all like the
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  original sam raimi spider -man movies and the
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  cinematographers like the guy who has got some
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  really good good shit on that list like he did
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  that planet of the apes movie with that guy but
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  he also did like the jumanji reboot and um that
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  metallica movie um the concert film like he cinematographed
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  that and that's a really good one so anyway that's
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  out april 30th we'll learn more and i'm sure
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  we'll discuss it more uh there's a bunch of new
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  merch master swords playable ocarinas etc etc
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  there's a concert series um shout out to friend
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  of the sites thomas um who runs game concerts
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  a german company and he's been tapped to do that
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  at least for the western dates which is super
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  super cool um and of course last but not least
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  uh ocarina of time out november 5th um we sort
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  of got the reveal that this is go about the lego
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  did they not reveal a lego they did reveal a
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  lego yeah it's i don't know it's sort of we if
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  it was new and we'd never had zelda lego before
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  i'd be like oh but it's you can look it up it's
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  a it's a large scale lego so you're building
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  link and epona out of bricks and It's fine. That's
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  how Lego works, isn't it? You use bricks. Yes,
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  but what I'm getting at is the last two Zelda
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  sets they did were play sets. So they came with
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  the minifigs and this is more of a display piece.
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  And I personally think that's less inherently
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  interesting. I like play sets. I mean, this is
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  the big thing with Lego Mario, right? Next month,
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  they're finally moving away from that. with a
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  screen in it where it played Mario music and
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  stuff. And they're just literally putting out
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  sets with little mini figures where kids can
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  make their own. And they're really cheap as well.
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  Like the cheapest one of those is like eight
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  pounds, which is exactly where Mario Lego should
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  be. Not 60 quid for a starter kit. But anyway,
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  yeah, there is a new Lego. There's new merch.
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  There's the new concert series. And then Ocarina
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  of Time. We got the reveal, but it's quite faithful,
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  but not 100%. I mean, first of all, Brynj, what
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  did you make? What were you expecting and did
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  it match that or was it different? I have no
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  idea what I was expecting anymore. I just have
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  no clue. I'm like, whatever, we'll take it. But
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  like, I don't know. I obviously, like many people,
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  I had that image of the wee baby Link, the top
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  -down shot from the first trailer from a few
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  months ago. And I was like, just going to imagine
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  that, but more of it. And I still wasn't prepared.
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  I still wasn't prepared. I think like a lot of
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  people, when it went from Aonuma presenting to
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  just Link studying Kokiri Forest, I, like a lot
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  of people, sort of recoiled away. Like, hey.
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  And I've had to really think about it. Over the
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  course of watching that trailer, I went from
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  recoiling to actually being like, hold on, hold
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  on. This ain't bad. Hold on. And I think I've
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  watched it multiple times. I've had to have a
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  really, really long think about it. And ultimately,
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  if it weren't for the fact that the original
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  game existed, I wouldn't have had that reaction,
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  you know? Like I'm having this visceral reaction
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  to it because it's something familiar to me that's
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  suddenly not familiar, you know? I don't think
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  it's because it's inherently ugly or bad. I do
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  agree with some of the criticisms, like Link's
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  tunic is a little bit detail heavy. I do. I think
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  honestly what does it is the leather. Smack the
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  microphone about the leather. whatever garb he's
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  got going on over the tunic now i noticed they've
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  just kept adding belts because in the n64 original
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  he had one belt around the waist and then two
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  i think two i think waist and across the chest
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  the 3ds version added across the chest these
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  and they just keep adding leather you two are
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  sad aren't you yes what is going on um yeah no
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  we I don't know. I think there is a case of it
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  being slightly over -designed. I do feel like
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  a game like this, you want a child to be able
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  to draw a somewhat faithful replica of it. You
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  know what I mean? That's how I think about character
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  designs. Can a child draw it? And I think with
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  all that leather crap, probably not. So I think
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  it is a little bit over -designed. But other
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  than that, I'm taking a step back. I'm thinking
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  about it. I'm like, you know what? I think it
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  looks pretty good, actually. It grew on me. A
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  bit like Star Fox. I started out and I was like,
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  and then by the time I'd watched it two or three
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  times, I was like, okay, I get it. And some of
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  the details are quite cool. Like I noticed how
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  Adult Link, the leather like plate that he's
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  got, armor that he's got on his chest is like
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  engraved or like pressed where it's got the outline
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  of the owl's face in it, which is super cool.
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  So I don't know what you were going to say to
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  me. No, just thinking about Star Fox actually,
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  because Star Fox, the new remake is the first
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  time I've actually finished it and I enjoyed
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  it a lot. I do not like N64 games and how they
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  control. I couldn't stand Ocarina of Time when
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  I tried it on Nintendo Switch Online. I love
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  the 3DS version, to be clear. So when I look
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  at this, it's with those eyes. And yeah, when
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  I saw Link, I thought he looked awful. I still
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  think he looks awful, but this looks like it
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  controls really well. And it looks like it has
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  quote -unquote normal controls. and i'm like
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  the most pro remake person thank you brains uh
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  so yeah like i am i'm totally on for that and
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  they sold it to me in the end when they said
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  uh we have gold foil on the cover like i fall
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  for all that crap like the physical shit so yeah
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  like i was like i'm i'm in for that the did you
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  give the song a listen the the title theme which
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  they released on nintendo music for from the
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  remake the new arrangement yeah it sounds lovely
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  yeah so that's what that's another thing i'm
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  excited about because this probably means we'll
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  actually get an ocarina of time soundtrack available
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  normally don't have to rely on this bullshit
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  because they release like the the breath of the
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  wild cdr blank discs for sale they release the
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  tears of the kingdom soundtrack and i think they'll
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  do this also so i'm also excited about that hey
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  i mean they did really i've got definitely the
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  n64 soundtrack on cd It might have been the Club
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  Nintendo thing because it wasn't available normally.
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  That's why. No, I think it was in Japan. I think
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  it was in Japan. Oh, I see. It was those days
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  then, the late 90s, early noughties, where nothing
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  got released in the West, but you could import
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  the soundtrack CDs from PlayAsia or whatever.
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  I'm pretty sure I got Ocarina of Time 3D soundtrack
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  as well. But yeah, I mean, either way, it's one
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  of the best game soundtracks ever, I think. And
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  so to have all that orchestrated brains has got,
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  is that Twilight Princess? Yeah, Twilight Princess
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  HD and apparently A Link Between Worlds. A Link
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  Between Worlds. As bad that I could get those
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  just from that. A Link Between Worlds is amazing.
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  What I will say about the art is Takaya Imamura,
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  who is an ex -Nintendo guy, he's one of the creators
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  of Star Fox, pointed out something interesting,
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  which he was like, I can see Miyamoto's love
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  of puppets coming through on this. And Miyamoto's
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  Love of Puppets is something that runs through
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  a lot of his games. So Star Fox obviously was
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  very much inspired by Thunderbirds and Stingray
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  and all those shows. And then you've got like
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  when they started redoing the 2D Zelda's Link's
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  Awakening and Link Between Worlds and Echoes
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  of Wisdom, all those have a sort of doll -esque
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  look as well. And even Enuma, I don't know how
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  accurate this is, but the story is allegedly
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  that Enuma got hired by Miyamoto because Enuma
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  had done a load of puppet design and puppet stuff
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  as part of his coursework at university. And
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  when Miyamoto saw that portfolio, he was like,
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  yep, you're the guy. And obviously he became
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  the Zelda guy and now he's passing the torch
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  down to Fujibayashi. But so there is that as
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  well, because Link does look quite doll -like.
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  But there is a funny thing going on where it's
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  like, there's definitely a big difference between
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  the hero character models, Link, Zelda, Ganondorf,
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  Impa, the other sages, and the generic NPCs.
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  And I think that can be a little bit, so in the
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  market down and stuff, that can be a little bit
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  jarring. But also, I guess that's part of the
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  original game as well. The N64 version was like
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  that too. One other thing that I think is quite
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  cool is if you look at all the designs. They're
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  clearly taking all the Zelda series since into
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  mind. So a really good example is like Sheik's
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  Harp. They have always said that Sheik's Harp
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  and the harp that Zelda plays in Skyward Sword
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  were the same harp. Since Skyward Sword released,
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  they were like, that's the same harp. But they
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  didn't really look the same exactly. It now looks
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  the same. And things like Mido, the shitty dude
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  in Kokori Forest. Tom's just, like, shaking his
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  head at all this. He's got, like, not tattoos,
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  but, like, you know how tribal, they'll use chalk
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  or whatever. He has all this tribal stuff down
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  his arms. And the tribal stuff that Maido's got
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  down his arms in this remake is exactly the same
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  as the tattoos that Princess Sonia has in Tears
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  of the Kingdom. So it's like this whole thing
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  of, like... Yeah, of course, you noticed it straight
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  away. So it's cool to see, and the Kakari sword
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  looks like a sword that is in Breath of the Wild,
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  as like a sword that was created by the Kakari
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  and all the rest. So I like that they're doing
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  that stuff. Did you have any thoughts, Tom? I
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  don't know if you were. Are you a big Zelda person?
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  Yeah, I... I don't know. Yeah, I think I write
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  about playing this on the website even, which
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  I've seen you read. You also own this website.
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  So, yeah, I do like Ocarina of Time. It's like
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  one of the, like, standout games from when I
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  was, like, I don't know how old I was, 15, maybe?
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  15, 16, I don't know. I remember going to buy
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  it, get the gold cartridge from Dixon's. No,
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  false. We never got a gold cartridge in Europe.
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  I'm sure I did. I'm sure I got a gold cartridge.
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  Majora's Mask was a gold cartridge. That was
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  the one. Yeah, yeah. Whatever. But yeah, when
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  I saw this, I was like immediately sick everywhere.
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  All over blue sky. I was just, just get it out.
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  Um, couldn't believe it. Terrible looking game.
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  Awful. No, I liked it immediately. Like I thought
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  this looks great. And then I saw everyone be
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  like losing it on social media about it. I was
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  like, what's going on? But I can't, it looks
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  exactly like I'd want a new version of this game
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  to look like nothing about it. It's bad to me.
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  It looks great. The fact it looks, I thought
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  it wouldn't look even near as good as this, to
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  be honest, like in terms of like what it's running
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  on. I know the Switch 2 is like semi -capable,
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  but it's still like underpowered compared to
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  everything else we've got, right, in terms of
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  hardware. But it looks great. Showed it to my
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  son. He loves it. Yeah, I just think it looks
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  great. I think the stuff they've done to make
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  it. feel a bit more modern is good like if you
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  do go back and play the n64 game it's fine if
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  you haven't played that before you'd probably
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  be like what the fuck's going on with some of
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  this stuff um so i'm happy they've made some
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  tweaks and stuff like if you still want to go
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  and play it it's still there right you can go
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  and play it on uh switch it's on i assume it's
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  on the switch online bit right um and the ds
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  the 3ds version exists which is pretty good um
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  yeah I liked it. I even liked the look of young
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  Link. I thought Link looks fine. He just looks
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  like a little young little kid running around
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  doing stuff. I will say, I think to what you
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  said about the original is still available, Nintendo
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  are the best at sort of saying... Well, the best
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  is sort of going, you know what? This remake
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  is a remake, but the original still exists. And
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  part of the reason for that is credit to them.
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  There are other companies, lesser companies,
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  you might say, where if they had a service like
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  Nintendo Switch Online, what they would try to
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  do, and you see this with companies like Square
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  Enix sometimes where they put out a new Final
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  Fantasy, they put out the Pixel remasters and
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  they delisted all the previous ones from Steam.
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  But Nintendo's like, look, you want to play Ocarina
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  of Time. The N64 one is on Nintendo Switch Online
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  and that's still there for you to enjoy. Or you
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  can play the new one. And probably, we're probably
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  not that far off from like the 3DS version being
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  on NSO as well. And I really respect them for
• 19:33
  that. It's like, you know, there's how many different
• 19:35
  versions of the original Super Mario Brothers
• 19:37
  are technically available on Switch? Because
• 19:39
  like you've got the NES version and the Mario
• 19:42
  All -Stars version. And then, you know, yeah,
• 19:46
  it's pretty cool. You can't buy those, right?
• 19:49
  this is the first time you can buy a remake for
• 19:52
  I guess Star Fox also but you could play Star
• 19:55
  Fox on NSO you know what I mean yeah I know but
• 19:58
  like I think the audience for obviously the remakes
• 20:01
  audience is people who've played it before but
• 20:03
  it's also people like me so with this they want
• 20:05
  people who've played Breath of the Wild and Tears
• 20:07
  of the Kingdom because that like Breath of the
• 20:09
  Wild specifically sold like a shitload more than
• 20:11
  every other game combined for them so there's
• 20:14
  that audience that has not played those classic
• 20:16
  games that's why everyone wants wind waker twilight
• 20:19
  princess on switch because like no one has played
• 20:22
  those on the old hardware and now you're getting
• 20:24
  a way to play like quote -unquote one of the
• 20:27
  most important games of all time which is also
• 20:29
  a classic zelda so i think that and you can't
• 20:32
  buy the 3ds thing right like it's they shut down
• 20:34
  the shop or whatever i'm the only fool who has
• 20:37
  extra copies in case anyone here needs so yeah
• 20:42
  Yeah, but I think they can't delist stuff from
• 20:45
  NSO, can they? I mean, they could, obviously,
• 20:48
  but it feels like you're not losing anything.
• 20:51
  They absolutely could, dude. They absolutely
• 20:52
  could. And like I say, there are other companies
• 20:55
  where they would make the argument of, well,
• 20:58
  are people actually going to buy this one -to
• 20:59
  -one Star Fox remake if they can play the original
• 21:02
  NSO? You know, as part of their subscription,
• 21:04
  we should delist it to be safe. And they don't
• 21:07
  do that. In fact, they're actively sort of putting
• 21:10
  out, you know, it's yeah i just i i think it's
• 21:15
  great that obviously there's weird exceptions
• 21:16
  there's like it's i mean pokemon That's the Pokemon
• 21:20
  company, not Nintendo. But it's clear they're
• 21:22
  never going to put the old Pokemon games on NSO.
• 21:24
  What they're going to do is re -release them
• 21:26
  one by one as they did with FireRed, LeafGreen,
• 21:28
  which I don't love, but I get it. And also there's
• 21:31
  arguments there about connecting to Pokemon Home
• 21:33
  and all that sort of crap. But I just think it's...
• 21:36
  I think the one thing on this topic that is really
• 21:38
  telling is they had that chart up of all the
• 21:40
  Zelda games you can play on the Switch. And apart
• 21:44
  from handheld exclusive stuff... like Triforce
• 21:48
  Heroes, which is a 3DS game, the only one that
• 21:50
  wasn't on that list as playable was Twilight
• 21:52
  Princess. So obviously Wind Waker is on GameCube
• 21:55
  NSO now. So the question is, what are they going
• 21:58
  to do there? Are they going to wait and have
• 22:02
  Twilight Princess just drop onto NSO? Or is there
• 22:05
  something more going on with that game? Are they
• 22:09
  going to reissue the HD one or what? I hope they
• 22:13
  do. I don't want to play the Wii controller shit
• 22:16
  version or whatever. Well, no, you could play
• 22:18
  the GameCube version. That's the point. They
• 22:20
  could put the GameCube one on NSO. And that'd
• 22:24
  be interesting because that was a version because
• 22:25
  there was a whole thing with that game is Link
• 22:27
  is always left -handed. I think because Miyamoto
• 22:29
  is left -handed, I believe. Most Japanese people,
• 22:32
  I believe. Really? Yeah. They write from, what
• 22:37
  is it, right to left. And we write from left
• 22:39
  to right. They write. Yeah, but it's like when
• 22:41
  you have a baby and long before they're writing,
• 22:45
  their dominant hand emerges. So I just thought
• 22:47
  there was a human nature thing where we tended
• 22:50
  to favor 70 -30 our right side. I think it might
• 22:53
  be a slight case of nurture, but we have to dig
• 22:55
  into this. Anyway, the point is, Link is usually
• 23:01
  always left -handed. And what they did for Twilight
• 23:03
  Princess, obviously they designed it for the
• 23:05
  GameCube. And then when they were retooling it
• 23:08
  for the Wii, they... wanted to make Link right
• 23:10
  -handed because they realized that people would
• 23:12
  be holding the Wii Remote in their right hand.
• 23:15
  And instead of just making Link right -handed,
• 23:17
  they flipped the whole game. So the whole of
• 23:19
  Hyrule is back to front on the Wii version. You
• 23:22
  know, like Death Mountain's technically on the
• 23:24
  wrong side compared to the other games, stuff
• 23:26
  like that. But the GameCube version was the right
• 23:28
  way around. And they used that version as the
• 23:31
  basis for the HD version on Wii U. So I'm curious,
• 23:34
  do they just put the GameCube one up on its own?
• 23:37
  Like sod it and it's just playable? I mean, I
• 23:39
  think they should. I think they probably will
• 23:42
  as well, regardless, right? And before we move
• 23:45
  on from Zelda, I'd like to say two things. One
• 23:47
  of the weird Nintendo exceptions, the whole remake,
• 23:51
  re -release conversation we were just having,
• 23:53
  for some reason, and it is slightly different,
• 23:56
  Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze. For some
• 23:59
  reason, they did delist that on the digital Wii
• 24:01
  U store when the Switch version came out. It's
• 24:04
  closer, obviously, than a remake, but... that
• 24:08
  doesn't matter now since the weaver and like
• 24:10
  he's dead anyway but you know um and then also
• 24:12
  i want to say in ocarina of time in the remake
• 24:14
  when when link got into a pyro castle town market
• 24:17
  i think it looks so good i was actually sort
• 24:20
  of sat there like this looks like the walkthrough
• 24:23
  we saw the other day for fable yeah except it's
• 24:27
  running on switch too i you know what i would
• 24:29
  actually go a little further i you know i haven't
• 24:31
  actually had it's one of the things i'm going
• 24:33
  to try and do this afternoon is write about fable
• 24:34
  but um I actually think graphically this looks
• 24:38
  better than Fable. It's pretty crazy. It's probably
• 24:41
  pushing less polygons, but it's got style. Well,
• 24:44
  I think Fable actually sort of is a little bit
• 24:47
  lacking in style, especially compared to the
• 24:50
  old Fable games. Everyone was so exaggerated,
• 24:52
  but they made a decision to scan real people
• 24:54
  in. Anyway, that's another topic for another
• 24:56
  time. I think it looks really good. I will say
• 24:58
  the castle town and stuff is interesting. I can't
• 25:00
  wait to see the other areas because... castle
• 25:03
  town is like it's the same area but they've completely
• 25:05
  redone the layout and it's like the one shot
• 25:08
  of kakariko village in the trailer you can see
• 25:11
  that everything's moved around um like the building
• 25:15
  site is towards the front of the town now whereas
• 25:17
  it used to be towards the back it seems like
• 25:18
  the well is off to the side so it seems like
• 25:20
  that's how they're going to make hyrule feel
• 25:22
  bigger and actually on this topic last thing
• 25:24
  i want to say on zelda it's really impressive
• 25:28
  how hyrule field is basically the same size right
• 25:30
  but They've made it feel so much bigger by just
• 25:34
  adding topography. Just hills. That's all they've
• 25:38
  done. And it feels massive by comparison. It's
• 25:40
  really fascinating because the original is so
• 25:42
  flat. The skyline looks so good. Sorry, Nakai.
• 25:46
  What if they made it like Rebirth's open world?
• 25:50
  Well, maybe we can talk about that in a bit.
• 25:52
  Okay, just one last thing about Zelda. What do
• 25:54
  we think about the hardware? Like the controller,
• 25:56
  the console and stuff. What do we think? It's
• 25:59
  all right. It's for dweebs, isn't it? All that
• 26:04
  stuff's for dweebs. It pisses me off a little
• 26:06
  bit because I get annoyed. As someone who plays
• 26:09
  his Switch mostly in handheld, unless I'm capturing
• 26:12
  or something, I don't want to have to buy a whole
• 26:15
  new Switch. I would love if they just put out
• 26:17
  those Joy -Cons, but instead my options are a
• 26:19
  whole new console or buy the Pro Controller.
• 26:22
  Even if you make the Joy -Con release a little
• 26:25
  bit different so that the console ones are unique.
• 26:30
  Just put out some Joy -Cons, for God's sake.
• 26:32
  That's my one criticism. I have one last question
• 26:38
  because it was mentioned earlier before we got
• 26:40
  off Zelda. I know we've gone long on Zelda already.
• 26:42
  But it was mentioned about how we haven't had
• 26:45
  a traditional Zelda apart from the 2D style one
• 26:48
  for a while. Do you think this penetrates with
• 26:52
  that new audience that found Breath of the Wild?
• 26:54
  I noticed... A friend of the pod, Chris Dring,
• 26:57
  on his thing, pointed out how many people watched
• 27:01
  that Direct. The Zelda Direct peaked at 2 .1
• 27:07
  million viewers. Now, by comparison, right? GTA
• 27:11
  6 on Netflix managed 4 .1. Insane. The State
• 27:15
  of Play last week peaked at a million. Gamescom
• 27:18
  Opening Night Live peaked at 2 million. And the
• 27:22
  Mario Kart World... specific direct they did
• 27:24
  in the run -up to switch to launch didn't even
• 27:27
  make a million it got like a little over 900
• 27:28
  000 so it strikes that and the trailer is already
• 27:33
  at like 60 million views something crazy so it
• 27:35
  strikes that that this maybe has a chance but
• 27:39
  what do you think Being what? It could be the
• 27:43
  best -selling Zelda. Yeah, as being as successful
• 27:46
  as Breath of the Wild. I think it depends. The
• 27:51
  problem with Breath of the Wild was the game,
• 27:53
  wasn't it, for Switch, right? So it had that
• 27:54
  going for everyone who, well, a load of people
• 27:57
  bought that with a Switch. This isn't quite the
• 27:59
  same thing. I think it's going to do massively
• 28:01
  well. Probably second best -selling Zelda of
• 28:05
  all time, I reckon, behind Breath of the Wild,
• 28:07
  once the dust has settled a bit. Yeah, I think
• 28:11
  it's interesting that a lot of people are like,
• 28:12
  this looks shit, and they're more like, I'm going
• 28:14
  to buy it anyway. It's just like... I mean, that's
• 28:17
  just how most online people are just like that.
• 28:20
  Like, it's with Pokemon, right? It's the worst
• 28:23
  Pokemon game ever. They've cut everything. I'm
• 28:25
  buying the double pack. So that's just how people
• 28:27
  are. It's that image. That Modern Warfare 2 boycott.
• 28:32
  I think this one will do really well. I want
• 28:35
  to see how it does compared to GTA. Obviously
• 28:37
  not fair, but... it's literally like the only
• 28:40
  big game coming out that month so I want to see
• 28:43
  like what what happens with that like I think
• 28:45
  in Japan it'll probably do more than GTA obviously
• 28:47
  because GTA is not physical and it's just on
• 28:50
  PS5 over there or whatever so but yeah like I
• 28:53
  I'm gonna I don't know if I'm gonna try and get
• 28:55
  the console buying another console this soon
• 28:58
  seems stupid but then I don't even know if we're
• 29:00
  gonna get an OLED model with with how hardware
• 29:03
  shit is going so I don't know I don't like the
• 29:06
  pro controller though like I oh I feel like just
• 29:09
  buying another one of those is a waste. But yeah,
• 29:11
  like the Joy -Cons would have been nice to have.
• 29:14
  They did that for Skyward Sword, didn't they?
• 29:16
  The blue ones or something. I remember something
• 29:18
  nice for Skyward Sword. I didn't buy that because
• 29:20
  when I played the game, it felt like I was playing
• 29:22
  a Wii game and I do not like that. I think Skyward
• 29:25
  Sword is the worst mainline Zelda. It's got some
• 29:29
  really nice design ideas, but I would literally
• 29:31
  rather play Zelda 2. That's my controversial
• 29:35
  opinion. That's a nice way to end the Zelda talk.
• 29:41
  Look, it's got loads of really nice ideas, right?
• 29:44
  Skyward Sword, like the way you're returning
• 29:46
  to the dungeons and stuff like that. But I just
• 29:47
  think the core conceit is so fundamentally uneven
• 29:52
  in its execution that it messes up the whole
• 29:55
  experience. I also think that was the game where
• 29:59
  the lore got away from them a bit and they were
• 30:01
  a bit... up their own backside about all the
• 30:03
  lore and then sort of breath of the wild brought
• 30:04
  them back down to earth um which is a danger
• 30:07
  it's a danger with the movie coming out with
• 30:09
  the next game if they take that stuff too seriously
• 30:11
  anyway as mentioned aside from the direct for
• 30:14
  zelda we also got a general nintendo direct i'm
• 30:16
  gonna rattle through this um if you didn't find
• 30:19
  time to watch it but if anyone has anything specific
• 30:21
  to say about any of these you can just pipe up
• 30:23
  uh so we got monster into wild that's coming
• 30:27
  out december the 4th we all knew that was coming
• 30:29
  that Gets it out in nice time for then the expansion
• 30:32
  to be also releasing on the Switch too. And I
• 30:36
  think it's quite important for Capcom because
• 30:38
  that game didn't go, didn't perform how they
• 30:40
  wanted it to in terms of matching worlds. So
• 30:42
  this is a nice chance for them to get a second
• 30:44
  chance with a better sort of patched up version
• 30:47
  of the game, especially with the size of the
• 30:49
  Switch market. So that's cool. A couple of shadow
• 30:53
  drops, Crisis Core, Final Fantasy VII. Makes
• 30:55
  sense now the remake trilogy's on there. It's
• 30:57
  a good game. if you didn't have a chance to play
• 31:00
  on other platforms sort of it's at home on the
• 31:03
  switch because it was built for the psp so it's
• 31:05
  the mission structure and stuff is built a bit
• 31:06
  for stop start so it's worth a look but then
• 31:09
  they did the same they did the same bullshit
• 31:12
  with no upgrade path no save transfer for people
• 31:14
  who bought it on switch so that's like the typical
• 31:17
  square enix thing this is square enix right they
• 31:19
  they yeah the less said about that the better
• 31:22
  um Mecha Chameleon on Switch, I think that's
• 31:26
  already done over 100 ,000 units. Crazy. Initially,
• 31:30
  it's like £3 .50 as well. Yeah, it's perfect.
• 31:34
  Kids want to just mess about. It's really good
• 31:36
  as well. We have a LAN every year, me and the
• 31:40
  boys, and usually we do it at someone's house,
• 31:42
  but this year we've actually booked a cottage.
• 31:44
  I'm sure this will be like a Patreon feature
• 31:46
  of us, like a video log of us getting the LAN
• 31:49
  set up and stuff, but we're driving down to a
• 31:50
  cottage for a whole weekend and having the LAN.
• 31:52
  But I can't wait to play Mecha Chameleon at the
• 31:54
  LAN because I think it's just going to be when
• 31:55
  people have got a few drinks in them. It's going
• 31:58
  to be a raucously funny with some people spectating
• 32:01
  inevitably because not everyone tends to play
• 32:03
  all at once. It should be a right laugh. So that's
• 32:05
  out. Hyrule Warriors Age of Calamity. Is that
• 32:08
  Hyrule Warriors 3? Is that the one that's got
• 32:12
  the ridiculously expensive? It's not 30. Isn't
• 32:15
  it like 25 quid or something? This is the Switch
• 32:18
  one that came out. After Breath of the Wild.
• 32:20
  Oh, okay. It's the one that ran at like fucking
• 32:22
  five FPS or whatever. Yes, because the other
• 32:24
  one is Age of Imprisonment. Yes, yes, yes, yes.
• 32:27
  So is this the first or second one for Switch?
• 32:29
  Second one. Second. Second one. But the upgrade,
• 32:33
  there's no like free digital upgrade, is there?
• 32:35
  You have to pay for like all the other stuff.
• 32:37
  It's not cheap as well. It seems like it's one
• 32:39
  of the more expensive ones. And it's a key card
• 32:42
  physical, which they're charging you more than
• 32:44
  the digital price. So they literally... It's
• 32:46
  like 60 digital, 70. And I saw Warrior64 post
• 32:50
  that he got confirmation from some retailer or
• 32:52
  some retailers have confirmed on their listing
• 32:54
  that it's a key card. So you're literally paying
• 32:56
  10 bucks for the box or whatever there. I did
• 33:00
  not finish this because it literally was the
• 33:02
  worst performing game I've probably played in
• 33:04
  my life. Looked awful as well. So I like 30 quid
• 33:08
  to like make my 60 quid game work well is something
• 33:11
  I guess I'm willing to do. I will actually, I
• 33:14
  will actually, I want to back up Mikael there
• 33:16
  because I do remember playing it myself. And
• 33:19
  I just remember the distinctly this one moment
• 33:21
  where I'm playing as Zelda and I'm using while
• 33:23
  the special attack, you press the A button, the
• 33:25
  special attack animation happens. And I just
• 33:28
  remember suddenly just like chopping into the
• 33:31
  attack animation and she draws her bow. And I
• 33:33
  swear to you, held on the single frame for like
• 33:36
  10 seconds. And I was there like, that's it.
• 33:39
  My console's crashed. Fucking Zelda game killed
• 33:41
  the console. And then suddenly the action just
• 33:43
  came back in. I was like, that game's not good.
• 33:47
  I actually feel like it's some of the best Warriors
• 33:50
  combat, but the performance was not good. For
• 33:53
  me, the first one is still the best one, in my
• 33:54
  opinion. The Wii U one. It's a very good traditional
• 33:57
  Warriors game. I like the stuff they introduced
• 34:00
  in Calamity. So yeah, there's that Procopio Expansion
• 34:05
  Pass Part 2 that's on the way. It's weird. I
• 34:07
  feel like that game... It felt like it was going
• 34:09
  to be the next Animal Crossing, the biggest thing
• 34:11
  ever. And although it sold really well, it feels
• 34:12
  like culturally it's just disappeared from the
• 34:15
  conversation. And the first expansion pass didn't
• 34:17
  seem to touch the sides on reversing that. So
• 34:20
  we'll have to see if this makes any difference.
• 34:24
  Free update to Star Fox. That's coming out at
• 34:26
  the end of the month. That's new multiplayer
• 34:28
  maps though, sadly. So nothing to do with the
• 34:30
  campaign, unfortunately, which is what I would
• 34:33
  have wanted. But it's cool. They've got split
• 34:35
  screen back and stuff like that. So it's nice.
• 34:38
  Star Fox Adventures on Nintendo Switch Online
• 34:40
  now. I remind you all that there was a rumor
• 34:44
  when Star Fox was first rumored that there were
• 34:47
  two Star Fox games, that there was a traditional
• 34:49
  game and that there was a more adventure style
• 34:52
  game. And they made a point in the Star Fox reveal
• 34:58
  on Nintendo Direct to shout out Star Fox Adventures.
• 35:03
  Now it's on Nintendo Switch Online. Admittedly,
• 35:06
  they'd probably put it on NSO anyway, but these
• 35:07
  do feel like the sort of steps you take as Nintendo
• 35:10
  if you know you've got another game that's of
• 35:13
  a similar ilk coming down the pike, I would say.
• 35:18
  This isn't everything, by the way. This is just
• 35:21
  what I picked out as the top beats. Kingdom Come
• 35:24
  Deliverance 2 coming to Switch 2 in 2027. I just
• 35:27
  picked that out because I think it shows we're
• 35:29
  continuing down this path of all the big games.
• 35:32
  from the other platforms are coming to Switch
• 35:33
  2, basically. Be curious to see how that runs,
• 35:36
  though, because it's quite an intense, good -looking
• 35:37
  game. It's actually something I'm super confident
• 35:41
  in. I shouldn't be saying that about a Switch
• 35:43
  2 port, but it ran like... I think it's one of
• 35:46
  the best -looking games I've played on Steam
• 35:47
  Deck, and it had, like, zero issues except for,
• 35:50
  like, the one town. And that was at launch. So,
• 35:52
  like, now it's probably going to be way better.
• 35:54
  I think when I played it on base PS5, it looked
• 35:57
  like something you'd expect from a PS6 game.
• 36:00
  from one of those from Europe or whatever. I
• 36:03
  feel like a lot of people look down on WRPG visuals
• 36:06
  because they're all for the story, but Man Kingdom
• 36:09
  Come was amazing. I think it looks fantastic.
• 36:12
  I'm definitely going to be playing that when
• 36:14
  it comes out. The one thing I hope they add for
• 36:16
  that is, I think Deep Silver is still handling
• 36:20
  it. They have this backend thing called PROS,
• 36:23
  which is like their account system. They let
• 36:25
  you do cross -save in some games only. So it
• 36:28
  worked in Space Marine too. It's like a one -way
• 36:31
  sync and then you have a cooldown. If they do
• 36:33
  that in Kingdom Come 2, I'm moving my PS5 save
• 36:35
  to Switch 2. If they don't, I'll just grind my
• 36:38
  teeth and play through it again. But I would
• 36:40
  like cross -save if they can do that. Yeah, it's
• 36:44
  one of those games where the hyper, you speak
• 36:47
  to the Western RPG style, like they go for it
• 36:50
  on the hyper real thing. And I know it's like,
• 36:53
  that's one of the games where when people have
• 36:55
  been hacking DLSS 5 into it, you look at it and
• 36:58
  go, yeah, okay. makes sense i mean you remember
• 37:01
  our podcast our podcast discussion right for
• 37:04
  the rpg site rpg of the year like it was literally
• 37:06
  neck and neck between this and expedition 33
• 37:09
  like i mean before i even joined the site i've
• 37:12
  heard all of the rpg of the year but i know i
• 37:15
  don't think anything was this close so yeah yeah
• 37:19
  it was a fight i remember um pikmin 4 switch
• 37:22
  to edition It's one of those ones where it's
• 37:25
  Pikmin 4 plus something else. So the plus is
• 37:27
  Dandori Academy. So I'm not a Pikmin. So Brynjil
• 37:30
  making a fist, like in a yes sense. I'm not a
• 37:36
  Pikmin guy, but I felt like I saw a bit of disappointment
• 37:38
  about what the expansion bit was. Can you speak
• 37:41
  to that? Okay. So obviously nothing confirmed
• 37:45
  until we go hands on ourselves, but it looks...
• 37:49
  It looks like some quite simple challenge mode
• 37:53
  stuff and perhaps even some stuff which might
• 37:56
  be a bit too simple. You know, I feel like Pikmin
• 38:01
  4 in general, there were some end game challenges
• 38:03
  that ramped it up a bit, but in general, it was
• 38:06
  a pretty easy game compared to the rest of the
• 38:08
  series. And I think some people are annoyed about
• 38:11
  that. But honestly, I really, really like Pikmin
• 38:14
  and I'm happy to just play through that whole
• 38:16
  thing again, you know? I've also, of course,
• 38:20
  Pikmin 3. Pikmin 3 got the Switch 2 free update
• 38:23
  recently, and I'm excited to play through that
• 38:25
  one again as well once games stop releasing,
• 38:28
  please. I need time. I've just never got Pikmin.
• 38:32
  Really? It's one of Miyamoto's favorite children,
• 38:37
  right? So Pikmin get quite a disproportionate
• 38:39
  amount of representation for how well the games
• 38:41
  sell. Yeah, considering how many games there
• 38:44
  were for the longest time. It's quite frustrating.
• 38:47
  We had two games for ages and we kept seeing
• 38:49
  Pikmin in Nintendo Directs or in Nintendo trailers
• 38:52
  or whatever. It's like, we've had two games for
• 38:54
  the last two decades. Will you hurry up? It's
• 38:56
  frustrating to go to the Nintendo store in Japan
• 38:58
  and like 20 % of the store is Pikmin. And I'm
• 39:02
  there, just give me a crumb of Star Fox or Metroid
• 39:05
  or something. Hopefully when I go, there'll be
• 39:09
  some Star Fox merch there this year, considering
• 39:10
  we just had a new game. I know there's the plush
• 39:12
  toys, but... you can get those in the uk so i
• 39:15
  digress uh another switch to edition xenoblade
• 39:17
  3 that's going to be out december the 3rd they
• 39:20
  haven't really said much about or have they mccann
• 39:23
  about what extra will be in that they've all
• 39:25
  had a little bit yeah oh they've got vampire
• 39:29
  survivors in it yeah yeah there's like a 3d top
• 39:32
  down type vampire survivor style survival thing
• 39:35
  and there's a new hero they showed I think the
• 39:38
  interesting thing about Xenoblade 3 is this was
• 39:41
  the first one where they actually pushed their
• 39:43
  engine to like actually add upscaling already.
• 39:46
  Like I believe it was already there on the Switch
• 39:48
  version. So that's why it looked nice. So there's
• 39:50
  a chance this one will just launch without any
• 39:53
  issues because every Xenoblade release so far
• 39:56
  has been like people texting me saying it's out.
• 39:58
  Is it good? Is it shit? And I'm like, give me
• 40:00
  a few hours and it's good, but it has some issues.
• 40:02
  So this one might be good because it was already
• 40:05
  the most polished of the lot. it's not my favorite
• 40:08
  2 is still my favorite but yeah I want to try
• 40:11
  this out don't give me that face you like Pikmin
• 40:14
  you like 2 I feel like the good Xenoblade games
• 40:21
  is 1 X and the DLC of 3 the DLC of 3 is like
• 40:27
  the DLC of 3 is like Perfect. I agree with you
• 40:30
  on that. X is good as well. They didn't fix that
• 40:33
  though. Like they released that and they didn't
• 40:34
  fix it. They released two. People said they're
• 40:36
  not going to fix it, but they fixed it. So go
• 40:39
  back and fix X, man. I think the next one is
• 40:43
  going to be really good. And I think the timing
• 40:45
  of the release on this, I think you can read
• 40:47
  from that. You release that and you want to give
• 40:49
  people maybe three to four months to finish it
• 40:52
  and then you have the new one out. So I take
• 40:55
  that as March, April for the next one. Yeah,
• 40:57
  I'm excited for Genesis as well. So last couple
• 41:01
  of bit, well, last small bit, there's a Mario
• 41:03
  Kart World update, which I was just excited because
• 41:05
  it just gave you some traditional ass courses
• 41:07
  that aren't, I mean, they are in the open world.
• 41:10
  They're in there, but yeah. But they were just
• 41:12
  there, like you could drive around them. So the
• 41:15
  fact they've now gone, and I hope they do more
• 41:17
  of that. I don't know how you, how do you access
• 41:19
  them? Because I played a multiplayer game the
• 41:21
  other day in Grand Prix and there's nothing there.
• 41:23
  Where do you get, how do you get, is it like
• 41:25
  in different mode or something? I think it's
• 41:27
  just available in versus mode. So when you're
• 41:30
  selecting your choice of tracks, those tracks
• 41:33
  have just been added. I haven't tried it, but
• 41:36
  I don't have the Mario Kart SNES nostalgia. So
• 41:39
  when I saw it, I was like, oh great, it's the
• 41:41
  Super Nintendo tracks. But for me, N64 was where
• 41:43
  I really... It's got to be N64. N64 is the one.
• 41:46
  I would pay money for N64 tracks. Cuba Trooper
• 41:51
  Beach. Get it in there. It's not been represented
• 41:54
  that in any of the games, has it, since the original?
• 41:57
  I'm not sure it's been any of them. I don't know.
• 41:59
  The DS one had a hell of a lot of the tracks
• 42:04
  in, and Mario Kart 8 by the end. I lost my DS
• 42:08
  kart, so I didn't play it enough. It was in Mario
• 42:12
  Kart. I know, it was Cooper Beach 2. First game
• 42:17
  you lost. Yeah, I just couldn't find it again.
• 42:20
  The cartridge just went. That was it. I have
• 42:23
  vague memories of NES games that I think I must
• 42:26
  have played twice and must have lost or something.
• 42:30
  Still thinking about it. I lost a Game Boy copy
• 42:33
  of Super Mario Land 2, Six Golden Coins, and
• 42:35
  I still think about it sometimes. That's a banger
• 42:38
  as well. I've got a copy now. In my growing life,
• 42:42
  I healed that wound in my heart with the power
• 42:44
  of eBay. But I still remember being in the car.
• 42:48
  I'm going into my Game Boy case. I'd like that
• 42:50
  black Game Boy case with the Nintendo logo on.
• 42:53
  I think everybody had in the nineties. Yeah.
• 42:55
  I'm going, where is, that was a really nice case.
• 42:57
  Really soft. Um, and going like, oh my God, where's
• 43:00
  my Mario? And it was gone. Great game. My ex
• 43:04
  -girlfriend lost my, uh, Pokey Walker. The heart
• 43:07
  gone soul silver, which, uh, just became, it
• 43:10
  happened to become one of like the most valuable
• 43:12
  pieces of Pokemon merchandise ever. And she lost
• 43:16
  it day one. I get the game the next day. Oh,
• 43:19
  can I walk around with that? That's cute. I'm
• 43:21
  like, I guess. Day... It's gone. It's gone. Holy
• 43:26
  crap. Yeah, they're like 130 quid. She's the
• 43:29
  poker walker. Without the fucking game, they're
• 43:31
  130 quid. If you give it with the game, it's
• 43:34
  like fucking 200. That's the... It's like the
• 43:36
  Tamagotchi. Oh, right. It was like a little Tamagotchi.
• 43:39
  Do I have one of those? I must have one of those.
• 43:41
  Hold on. Hold on. Oh. Don't tell me you bought
• 43:46
  another one. Do you know how much it hurts to
• 43:48
  have this box and nothing in it? Nothing in it.
• 43:50
  I mean, you could just repurpose this for GTA
• 43:54
  6 in a few months. No. Yes. Lastly, because we
• 43:59
  are going really long on this since there's no
• 44:00
  direct discussion, two new games, Metroid Ravenous,
• 44:03
  2D Metroid, Metroid 6 technically, I guess. Looks
• 44:08
  really good. Looks really action -y. Looks like
• 44:10
  a continuation of the work. that was done on
• 44:13
  the Metroid 2 remake and Metroid... Dread. Dread,
• 44:19
  that's it. I really like 2D Metroid. I'm here
• 44:23
  for it. That's about all I've got to say. Hell
• 44:26
  yeah. I like that it has music again. Dread had
• 44:29
  no music. That's what he said. And, oh yeah,
• 44:32
  one more thing, which I think I didn't see a
• 44:34
  lot of people pick up on. On the store page,
• 44:36
  it says it has HDR, which is nice. It also says
• 44:39
  it has 120Hz support. Interested to see what
• 44:42
  that comes out. We got VRR now. It's okay. In
• 44:48
  one game. But it will happen for games in the
• 44:52
  future, I assume. I assume games that come out
• 44:54
  from now on will come to VRR support. Capcom
• 44:56
  has to have that in Dragon's Dogma, Nessie, and
• 45:00
  Monster Hunter because those are going to be
• 45:02
  dog shit otherwise docked. Have you tried Onimusha
• 45:05
  on Switch 2? Have you tried it on Switch 2? I
• 45:07
  haven't, no. So... This was the first Capcom
• 45:11
  game where they let you cap the frame rate and
• 45:12
  you have to do that dock because otherwise it
• 45:14
  just does not feel good dock. So I'm interested
• 45:17
  to see what they do here. But yeah, like Ravenous
• 45:19
  looks good. Got a friend to order the limited
• 45:21
  edition for me. Happy about that. Me looking
• 45:25
  on the shelves behind me to see if I had a Pokewalker.
• 45:30
  Yeah, I'm really excited for that. And there's
• 45:32
  a new Kirby game, which is like Kirby goes to
• 45:35
  the Truman Show and discovers that he's actually
• 45:37
  in a fake world. That looks good. Yeah, 3D open
• 45:41
  world. Yeah, I quite like Kirby. I didn't play
• 45:45
  it at all until possibly the Switch. I played
• 45:49
  a few games there and I like them all. Hell yeah.
• 45:52
  That was the game that my small child was most
• 45:56
  excited for in the direct. So I think I'll be
• 45:59
  playing that because of her. She's like, is Kirby
• 46:04
  a Pokemon? I was like, nope. Close enough. When
• 46:09
  Smash Melee came out, Jigglypuff and Kirby right
• 46:12
  next to each other, you wouldn't know. Yeah,
• 46:14
  that's true. And obviously, just to talk more
• 46:17
  generally, the run -up to this Direct was silly.
• 46:19
  People were expecting Smash and Nintendogs. I
• 46:23
  could see a new Nintendogs. That makes sense
• 46:25
  in my brain. I think it's probably too soon for
• 46:27
  a new Smash because Kirby Air Riders has only
• 46:29
  just come out. But you have to laugh at the mess
• 46:34
  that went on in the run -up to that. I feel like
• 46:37
  we could have a whole ass discussion about just
• 46:39
  Smash and what could happen next. Yeah, you can
• 46:43
  do that when I'm not here. I will say for now,
• 46:46
  I don't feel like the next Smash will necessarily
• 46:51
  be like 100 % Sakurai -led because it does feel
• 46:54
  like Smash Ultimate was kind of like the end
• 46:57
  point of that style of game. You know? We'll
• 47:01
  see. Yes. I don't know what I would want there.
• 47:05
  I think you can only go one of two paths, really,
• 47:07
  which is you've either got to literally continue
• 47:11
  where Ultimate left off and just basically zhuzh
• 47:15
  up the graphics and keep adding characters and
• 47:17
  stages, or you reset and you do a game with 12,
• 47:23
  16 characters and it's a completely different
• 47:25
  sort of game. I'll be very, in Sakurai Retrust,
• 47:29
  so I'll be very interested to see. But that's
• 47:33
  it for Nintendo. There is more on the site. There's
• 47:35
  a great roundup from Tom and Michaela of everything
• 47:39
  that was in the Direct. So there's some stuff
• 47:41
  that we didn't talk about, smaller games, things
• 47:44
  like that, that you might want to look at. It's
• 47:45
  also got every single trailer. So if you want
• 47:47
  to just skim through and watch the trailers you're
• 47:49
  interested in without having to watch the whole
• 47:51
  Direct, if you missed it, you can do that on
• 47:53
  respec .net. Next story, and really our last
• 47:58
  story of the week, and then we'll do some other
• 48:00
  bits. This crazy shit that I woke up and I was
• 48:04
  like, what the hell has happened overnight? Which
• 48:08
  is basically Kojima Productions obviously have
• 48:10
  made two games with Sony, with PlayStation, Death
• 48:13
  Stranding, Death Stranding 2. And they had a
• 48:15
  deal for another, which was a game called Fizzint.
• 48:17
  And Fizzint was basically Kojima's new Metal
• 48:21
  Gear Solid. It was a stealth espionage action
• 48:24
  game. There was apparently going to be a film
• 48:27
  component as well. Am I right in thinking that
• 48:29
  Jordan Peele was also going to be involved in
• 48:32
  that? I remember seeing him at some England.
• 48:34
  Was he there when they announced it? Or was it
• 48:36
  that big beardy bloke who did the Godzilla? Peele's
• 48:40
  involved in OD. I can't remember. But there was
• 48:44
  definitely a Hollywood person where it was like,
• 48:46
  oh, and we're going to do a Hollywood element.
• 48:48
  And it was like the whole thing of PlayStation
• 48:49
  game, Sony Pictures, Columbia Pictures, which
• 48:53
  is owned by Sony, movie. um and then i'm gonna
• 48:56
  just quote um kojima himself so he said on twitter
• 49:00
  x uh quote in mid -june this year we unexpectedly
• 49:05
  received notice from playstation studios that
• 49:08
  they would cancel the fizzing project fizzing
• 49:11
  is an important project both to me personally
• 49:13
  and to kojima productions determined to keep
• 49:16
  the project alive we have spent the last three
• 49:18
  months searching tirelessly for a new partner
• 49:20
  In the course of seeking advice and pursuing
• 49:22
  negotiations with people across many fields,
• 49:24
  we found in Xbox, a partner with whom we share
• 49:27
  a common vision for the future, and we've decided
• 49:30
  to team up with them once again. Please rest
• 49:32
  assured that the development of Fizzint as genre
• 49:34
  defining action espionage title is ongoing and
• 49:38
  will continue moving forward. So that is sort
• 49:44
  of crazy. Sony's dropped the game. Microsoft
• 49:47
  has swept in and has taken it. It's a highly
• 49:49
  anticipated game. Thoughts? Man. Sony don't want
• 49:57
  to make games no more. I will say, Kojima said
• 50:02
  specifically that he got word from Sony that
• 50:04
  they didn't want to do the game anymore in June.
• 50:07
  Which, if we rewind time a couple of months,
• 50:09
  it was like... It's before the physical announcements.
• 50:12
  It's before the live TV announcement. It feels
• 50:16
  like behind the scenes. There's a lot of restructuring
• 50:19
  going on post the live service disasters. Plural,
• 50:24
  you know. Sony needs to make money because they
• 50:28
  threw a billion dollars away trying to make a
• 50:30
  whole bunch of live service games that they cancelled.
• 50:32
  And they don't know what to do. They're clawing
• 50:36
  at shit right now. And it's pretty embarrassing.
• 50:39
  I think they looked at it and they said, if this
• 50:41
  game only makes as much as something like Death
• 50:44
  Stranding 2, that's not enough profit. But guess
• 50:47
  what? There aren't any games that are going to
• 50:49
  give Sony enough profit. They threw that money
• 50:52
  down the drain and they just got to take the
• 50:54
  loss and move on with shit that actually works,
• 50:57
  you know? Alas, we're just going to cancel games
• 51:01
  and hope things work themselves out. Could have
• 51:05
  got Bluepoint to remake a good game. There's
• 51:07
  a lot of games in the Sony library. They've made
• 51:10
  mistake after mistake. It's insane. That's what
• 51:12
  I said. Like this was like the worst thing they've
• 51:15
  done since the Bluepoint announcement. Like I
• 51:17
  was so annoyed with that. And it's like, you
• 51:19
  know, with people clown on Nintendo for doing
• 51:21
  remakes and remasters, like Sony owned the best
• 51:24
  studio that does that and did nothing with them.
• 51:27
  Like they did one launch title for the PS5, which
• 51:29
  I love. That's it. They didn't, they could have
• 51:32
  literally like licensed and done, they could
• 51:34
  have gotten Bluepoint to do multiplayer Dark
• 51:36
  Souls 2 and 3 remasters also. Like at that point,
• 51:39
  they weren't even against doing PC stuff. So
• 51:41
  like they just wasted Bluepoint. And the Kojima
• 51:44
  thing is like, a friend of mine told me it's
• 51:47
  because you finally played MGS4 and bought RRR
• 51:49
  on Blu -ray. This happened, it's your fault and
• 51:51
  whatever. I laughed at that. But so the first
• 51:55
  thing I thought of with this is that OD project.
• 51:57
  We've not seen shit from it. It's probably years
• 51:59
  away as well. But whatever they're doing, they've
• 52:03
  got enthusiast mindshare and good press for doing
• 52:06
  this. And I feel like that's why they've done
• 52:08
  it. Xbox, I mean. Yeah, absolutely. And on Sony's
• 52:12
  side, it just looks like every single thing they
• 52:14
  do is just another bad decision that gets worse.
• 52:16
  It just spits into Sony's face. It's just a spit
• 52:19
  in Sony's face. But also I think if you think
• 52:21
  about Xbox, where Xbox is at right now, you've
• 52:24
  got someone like Asher who's coming in and getting
• 52:26
  to know what video games are and getting to know
• 52:28
  the video games industry. This guy is a Spielberg
• 52:33
  or a Tarantino of video games or an Abrams of
• 52:37
  video games. It's a very easy pitch to understand.
• 52:41
  And so I think probably when that was put across
• 52:43
  a desk, that had enormous... enormous clout as
• 52:47
  for what sony's doing i just think the do kojima
• 52:51
  games make money absolutely but death standing
• 52:53
  2 definitely underperformed even if it made its
• 52:55
  money back and sony probably does look at it
• 53:00
  and go well we can fund this with this much profit
• 53:03
  margin or we can give more money to gorilla to
• 53:07
  make two more horizon games or to insomniac to
• 53:11
  make more like really simple brain like slightly
• 53:15
  brain dead market penetration superhero games
• 53:18
  and get a far better return on investment which
• 53:23
  brings us to tom you've played a little bit of
• 53:26
  wolverine yeah a little bit i've like 20 minutes
• 53:31
  i would say and so that i played it after the
• 53:35
  reviews so reviews dropped like it's got it's
• 53:40
  actually review wise it's doing okay but when
• 53:42
  you look at like certain reviews they're quite
• 53:45
  damning some of them don't even read like the
• 53:49
  sixes they got um and i've seen some people talk
• 53:52
  about like god of war in comparison i've heard
• 53:56
  i played 20 minutes so it's early and it's still
• 53:58
  a bit tutorialy i guess um to do anything like
• 54:01
  god of war doesn't feel like god war in any way
• 54:03
  god of war is a great game the new one The second
• 54:08
  one is also a great game that I think for some
• 54:12
  reason has got caught up in this first party
• 54:14
  games from PlayStation are all the same. They're
• 54:16
  great games. Both of those I will do not like
• 54:20
  being, I don't like it when people say they're
• 54:22
  just like trash Sony single player games. They're
• 54:24
  not. They're really well made, good games. Second
• 54:26
  one in particular has got some really great story
• 54:29
  bits as well. This feels really weird. Like it's,
• 54:36
  i know everyone's like like they'll be like i
• 54:40
  want to play like an old 360 style action game
• 54:43
  whatever i don't know if we always do want to
• 54:47
  do that and this feels feels a bit like what's
• 54:53
  the right word for this like it doesn't feel
• 54:55
  prestige in the way that you expect it to but
• 54:59
  it doesn't it's not that it doesn't it doesn't
• 55:00
  look bad it just feels like basic or something
• 55:04
  about it just doesn't quite feel like i expected
• 55:07
  it to feel and i'm not a massive fan of the spider
• 55:10
  -man games but they're fine i do love ratchet
• 55:12
  and clank i think the last one is brilliant game
• 55:14
  um but this is like i mean it's early on right
• 55:18
  so i'm sure it will develop or whatever it doesn't
• 55:21
  feel like the very first proper mission i guess
• 55:25
  once you've gone through a bit tutorial stuff
• 55:27
  is like you're going around this like army town
• 55:30
  or or something i'm not entirely sure what it
• 55:32
  is um and you have to disable these like alarms
• 55:35
  or something and it's just like you going around
• 55:38
  these like four or five different locations fighting
• 55:41
  the enemies in there and then you have to press
• 55:43
  triangle to disable the alarm and it's like is
• 55:47
  this really good game design i don't know if
• 55:51
  it is um and i yeah i'm interested to see where
• 55:56
  it goes because I generally, apart from like,
• 55:58
  I'm not a big fan of Horizon as a series, but
• 56:02
  other than that, I quite like Sony's first party
• 56:04
  stuff. I think it's the cool thing to be like,
• 56:07
  oh, Sony have like, everything's the same. They
• 56:09
  make generic first party single player games.
• 56:13
  What I like most of them, to be honest, I think
• 56:15
  they've done a good job at building some of those
• 56:16
  up. This does feel early on at least disappointing,
• 56:21
  I would say. i don't know we'll see where it
• 56:25
  goes like i think it has to rely a bit more on
• 56:28
  like being just a fun thing to play through and
• 56:31
  at the moment it doesn't feel like it has enough
• 56:33
  of that like fun excitement around it to to carry
• 56:38
  to carry what feels like quite a simple game
• 56:40
  but like it's 20 minutes like there's a lot more
• 56:43
  to go i think some of the videos i saw of like
• 56:45
  the over tutorialization over hand holding stuff
• 56:48
  is scary though it actually like this again actually
• 56:51
  looks like those memes which is nuts. And you
• 56:57
  have to wonder if it seems like this is one of
• 56:59
  the first big games where that stuff has actually
• 57:02
  been a major trip hazard for the studio and for
• 57:06
  the game's reception. And maybe that is going
• 57:09
  to give people some pause for thought on that
• 57:11
  topic at long last. Yeah, but you wonder in that
• 57:18
  sense. It's like this is the most mass market
• 57:20
  game ever, in a sense. that you can put out in
• 57:24
  terms of the way it's been designed and the way
• 57:25
  everything about it it's super super uber mass
• 57:28
  market and they just cut this game that is probably
• 57:31
  the opposite of that quite cult will still make
• 57:34
  its money back but you know and you've got to
• 57:36
  wonder if seeing the reception for this someone
• 57:38
  at sony's like man should we have done that should
• 57:41
  we have kept this kojima game um to tie i think
• 57:45
  going back going back to the kojima thing i think
• 57:47
  xbox is this is exactly what they should be doing
• 57:49
  if they want to build up any kind of presence
• 57:53
  again they need to get games like this so people
• 57:56
  have a reason to consider it as a platform like
• 57:59
  if you go back to like the playstation look at
• 58:02
  playstation some of the games that stand out
• 58:05
  you've got like metal gear solid right you've
• 58:08
  got uh crash bandicoot spyro those are all xbox
• 58:12
  games now as like uh you look back and think
• 58:15
  about how that's changed i think playstation
• 58:17
  i write about this a bit after the last i think
• 58:21
  the the summer showcases and stuff is that they're
• 58:25
  like they need to correct what they've done with
• 58:27
  all the live service stuff but also they need
• 58:29
  to figure out how to get back some of that excitement
• 58:31
  in what they were making like even if you go
• 58:33
  back to like not that long ago ps4 had a good
• 58:36
  chunk of games that were original interesting
• 58:39
  projects that weren't just his other horizon
• 58:42
  game it's another whatever um like the first
• 58:44
  horizon game yeah um but then they even like
• 58:48
  they've re like sony have remade They remade
• 58:52
  Horizon. They also remade, like, The Last of
• 58:54
  Us, right? I mean, I liked the remake of The
• 58:56
  Last of Us. Don't get me wrong, but it's, like,
• 58:58
  some of those studios have just, like, what have
• 59:01
  they been up to? Probably getting cancelled live
• 59:03
  service games. But, yeah, like, I think Xbox,
• 59:07
  this is, like, if there's anything, like, it's
• 59:10
  rare. The game, like, from Kojima, there aren't
• 59:13
  many, if there is anything like another Kojima,
• 59:15
  I don't know if there is anyone at his level
• 59:17
  in terms of, like... people expect just from
• 59:20
  the name something that they're going to love
• 59:22
  whatever but um it's exactly the right thing
• 59:24
  for them to be doing i know it probably costs
• 59:26
  a lot of money and it's complicated with everything
• 59:28
  else going on with xbox but it is exactly the
• 59:31
  kind of thing that they should be going for in
• 59:33
  my opinion well we talked about it in our discord
• 59:36
  server which you should you should join uh but
• 59:39
  um someone asked about how are they able to do
• 59:43
  this when they're cutting loads of studios cutting
• 59:45
  loads of people and there's this whole We've
• 59:48
  encountered it when we worked at IGN and stuff.
• 59:50
  There's this whole idea of employees and ongoing
• 59:55
  concerns are far more concerning than people
• 1:00:00
  who are just sort of, than a contractor where
• 1:00:03
  you give them a bag of money because you don't
• 1:00:04
  have to worry about the dental benefits and the
• 1:00:07
  health insurance and stuff of the Kojima Productions
• 1:00:09
  employees. And also, once the contract's over,
• 1:00:12
  it's over. You haven't got to try and find a
• 1:00:13
  way to cut people. And so there is a big difference.
• 1:00:16
  In terms of how a company like Microsoft accounts
• 1:00:18
  it, it doesn't make all the cuts they've done
• 1:00:20
  okay. But the reason that this has happened despite
• 1:00:23
  the cuts is because it's a different kettle of
• 1:00:25
  fish entirely, basically. I don't know. You are
• 1:00:31
  right, Tom. It's exactly what Xbox needs to be
• 1:00:33
  doing. The thing that's worrying about it is
• 1:00:36
  you look at Sony and you think about the last
• 1:00:38
  two generations and you think about... what sony
• 1:00:42
  incubated over the last few generations so new
• 1:00:44
  ips like uncharted like last of us like uh like
• 1:00:49
  ghost um and all that sort of stuff infamous
• 1:00:54
  back in the day you look at this generation sony
• 1:00:58
  destruction all -stars um which they closed and
• 1:01:03
  concord which they closed And this is a problem
• 1:01:07
  that everyone's got. Like, how much new IP has
• 1:01:09
  Microsoft actually truly stood up that's going
• 1:01:11
  to stand the test of time as well? Not very much.
• 1:01:13
  Even Nintendo, their last big new franchise was
• 1:01:17
  Splatoon, you know, a generation ago now. ARMS
• 1:01:20
  is better than Splatoon. Yeah, ARMS, I suppose.
• 1:01:22
  It is better than Splatoon, but will ARMS ever
• 1:01:25
  get a sequel? Legs? Who knows? I mean, they did
• 1:01:29
  make Bayonetta, so... Yeah, yeah. But that's
• 1:01:34
  something I worry about in general is a lack
• 1:01:36
  of new big IP. And it's all well and good stuff
• 1:01:40
  cutting through from indie, which is wonderful.
• 1:01:43
  But I do think also you need big studios to take
• 1:01:46
  a swing. And Sony doing this is yet another vote
• 1:01:52
  of no confidence in, hey, we're going to fund
• 1:01:54
  a big budget new IP. But at least Microsoft's
• 1:01:58
  willing to take that swing. They wouldn't have
• 1:02:02
  done it for anyone except Kojima, I don't think.
• 1:02:04
  But there you go. Excuse me while I drink before
• 1:02:11
  we go on to the next thing. I want to just throw
• 1:02:19
  a couple coals onto the fire since we're talking
• 1:02:22
  about PlayStation and Xbox. Man, I've always
• 1:02:28
  been a console boy. always i prefer playing on
• 1:02:31
  consoles to pc every time i play on pc there's
• 1:02:34
  like a minor issue that i have to fix before
• 1:02:36
  i can play the game and i can't stand it but
• 1:02:39
  play a console i put the game in and i turn it
• 1:02:42
  on it just works and i've always preferred that
• 1:02:44
  sure there's updates and shit like that these
• 1:02:46
  days but in general playing a game on a ps5 especially
• 1:02:49
  pre -launch tends to be easier than pc um With
• 1:02:54
  everything that's happened, including the physical
• 1:02:57
  game discs, studio closures, cancelling a Kojima
• 1:03:01
  game, shifting over to Xbox, all of that. All
• 1:03:04
  of it's making me feel like in the future, I'm
• 1:03:06
  going to focus on Nintendo Switch 2 and PC. Right
• 1:03:09
  now, I use my PS5 Pro for like almost everything.
• 1:03:13
  Most of the games I play for work, I play on
• 1:03:15
  PS5. Most of the games I play for pleasure. play
• 1:03:17
  on ps5 and even when i'm just like watching youtube
• 1:03:19
  or netflix i'll play it on the ps5 so i don't
• 1:03:22
  have to connect my tv to the internet and get
• 1:03:23
  gen gen ai music channels in the in between it
• 1:03:27
  yeah i i've always been the console guy and now
• 1:03:33
  i'm genuinely thinking i might just have to go
• 1:03:35
  pc and switch to because that will come that
• 1:03:38
  will cover almost every game i'll ever want to
• 1:03:40
  play i'll probably get better experiences i just
• 1:03:44
  feel like i'm done with with with both playstation
• 1:03:47
  and xbox even if fizzint comes out and is a banger
• 1:03:50
  it's probably gonna come out on pc now so i'm
• 1:03:51
  sure it will come out on pc yeah it will i think
• 1:03:54
  from my point of view i'm also with you i prefer
• 1:03:56
  playing on i think the only the maximum pc gaming
• 1:03:59
  i've done in my life is steam deck if you count
• 1:04:01
  that and you kind of have to but like my perspective
• 1:04:04
  has always been like as someone who plays and
• 1:04:07
  tests games on multiple platforms i'm just gonna
• 1:04:09
  play the game where i get the most comfortable
• 1:04:12
  experience. Like if a game runs good enough on
• 1:04:14
  Switch 2 and it's like 120 FPS on PS5, if I'm
• 1:04:18
  happy with how it is on Switch 2, I'm going to
• 1:04:20
  play it on Switch 2. Even though like, you know,
• 1:04:22
  like I don't have a high end PC. I'm probably
• 1:04:24
  going to get a Steam machine soon, which is not
• 1:04:26
  high end. That's like PS5 level. But for say
• 1:04:29
  something like Control Resonant, I don't know
• 1:04:31
  if I'm going to play it on PS5. Maybe I'll just
• 1:04:33
  play it over there if it's good enough. And I
• 1:04:35
  feel like that's a problem which people aren't
• 1:04:37
  realizing is happening to Sony. that for people
• 1:04:40
  who owned a Switch and a shitload of people owned
• 1:04:43
  a Switch, they couldn't play most of the third
• 1:04:45
  -party games. You have to buy a PS5, you have
• 1:04:47
  to buy a PC. Now those games are coming to Switch
• 1:04:50
  too. If they are okay with the performance cutbacks
• 1:04:53
  and general visual cuts, you don't need another
• 1:04:55
  platform. No one has enough time to play every
• 1:04:58
  single game. You want to play Capcom games, you're
• 1:05:00
  getting them day one now. You want to play Square
• 1:05:02
  Enix games, you're getting Final Fantasy day
• 1:05:04
  one. Yeah, so I think that's something which...
• 1:05:08
  For people who just want to play on one platform,
• 1:05:11
  you're mostly covered now, even for the big games.
• 1:05:15
  Well, so this is the interesting thing, really,
• 1:05:17
  is that I think for the last few generations,
• 1:05:23
  Microsoft and Sony have both regarded Nintendo
• 1:05:25
  as a non -competitor. They're in a different
• 1:05:28
  market. They're doing their own thing. But the
• 1:05:30
  irony is now Nintendo is competing on the third
• 1:05:32
  -party game front. And so I think that's where
• 1:05:35
  they... could be more of a threat than people
• 1:05:38
  realize. They're also getting sports games now
• 1:05:43
  at almost feature parity, which is something
• 1:05:45
  which is going to affect them in the US market
• 1:05:47
  as well. But I feel like the only thing they
• 1:05:50
  don't have right now, which maybe Nintendo is
• 1:05:52
  going to be working on this gen, is they don't
• 1:05:54
  have gacha games, which Sony makes a shitload
• 1:05:56
  of money from by default. They just get rent
• 1:06:00
  for doing nothing and hosting the game. They
• 1:06:02
  probably earn more from Genshin than they did
• 1:06:04
  from Japan Studio at this point with how much
• 1:06:06
  that makes on PlayStation. I'm sure that's true.
• 1:06:09
  Yeah. So I feel like they have that not there
• 1:06:12
  on Switch, but then do they want it on the platform?
• 1:06:15
  Because then they'll have people playing the
• 1:06:16
  forever games and not spending on the other games.
• 1:06:19
  That's another issue. which nintendo doesn't
• 1:06:22
  have to worry about right now and the other thing
• 1:06:24
  is they don't really have many of the big you
• 1:06:26
  know the action games coming from china and korea
• 1:06:29
  they just started with lies of p and stellar
• 1:06:31
  blade if those do well i think sony will miss
• 1:06:33
  out on that also going forward because the people
• 1:06:36
  who have a switch to they'll be okay with it
• 1:06:38
  like i've played so many games on steam deck
• 1:06:40
  because i wanted to play them portably And I
• 1:06:42
  didn't play them on like, you know, PS5 or Xbox.
• 1:06:44
  There are a lot of people like that. So they
• 1:06:47
  probably need to worry about that more. But then
• 1:06:49
  maybe in their head right now, they're like,
• 1:06:51
  we're making enough money. That's good enough
• 1:06:54
  for us. And that's probably going to, the bleed
• 1:06:56
  is eventually going to get to them on that front.
• 1:07:00
  Yeah, it's interesting times. It's funny how
• 1:07:05
  like, we didn't mention it, but the start of
• 1:07:07
  the Zelda Direct. was the the concert bit right
• 1:07:10
  and they did the the music and like i'm not the
• 1:07:14
  world's biggest zelda fan but like i played quite
• 1:07:16
  a lot of zelda games but that during that montage
• 1:07:19
  probably the happiest i felt about games in about
• 1:07:21
  10 years i think like it just felt like this
• 1:07:25
  is like this is what games are kind of stuff
• 1:07:28
  that should be i felt actually and it's rare
• 1:07:30
  i felt happy about the whole thing for about
• 1:07:33
  five minutes how that went on possibly a slight
• 1:07:35
  little tear in my eye even like it felt like
• 1:07:38
  this is like what this is what games should be
• 1:07:41
  and i don't think the others have that like sony
• 1:07:45
  have got a history and like of a degree but nintendo
• 1:07:48
  has that like like like you just expect good
• 1:07:54
  from them i know they're a company and they are
• 1:07:57
  all they're obviously about making money i don't
• 1:07:59
  believe the whole thing about nintendo like your
• 1:08:01
  best friend whoever this is a corporation but
• 1:08:04
  they are consistently doing the right thing when
• 1:08:08
  it comes to making games i think whereas the
• 1:08:10
  others i think that is questionable i would like
• 1:08:14
  to say go ahead you go first Okay, I'll do it
• 1:08:17
  quickly. I saw some people bring up the Wolverine
• 1:08:20
  reviews and said, oh, it's Sony's Metroid Prime
• 1:08:22
  4 moment or whatever. And I think what people
• 1:08:26
  don't realize is Nintendo can afford those things
• 1:08:28
  because they put out something every single month
• 1:08:30
  that is only available on their platform. Even
• 1:08:32
  if it's like Pikmin 4, my hype went to zero when
• 1:08:35
  I found out it's still 30 FPS. I'm not replaying
• 1:08:38
  it at 30. So, but then it doesn't matter. They
• 1:08:40
  have so much stuff coming out. They have a potentially
• 1:08:43
  like based on previews, like what multiple hundred
• 1:08:45
  are. Fire Emblem game coming out next week so
• 1:08:48
  that's what does Sony have a multiple R Wolverine
• 1:08:53
  game coming up yeah and what I was going to say
• 1:08:57
  is obviously it was the 40th anniversary for
• 1:08:59
  Zelda that concert celebrated like 40 years of
• 1:09:02
  the series went for all the different games even
• 1:09:04
  Triforce Heroes Jesus Christ like it's interesting
• 1:09:08
  they consider that a mainline Zelda game that
• 1:09:10
  little logo flash I was like huh someone's gotta
• 1:09:14
  Even that, and I've just got to say, look around
• 1:09:18
  the industry and which other series has persevered
• 1:09:21
  regular releases, high quality, for that amount
• 1:09:24
  of time? Pac -Man. I mean, some people don't
• 1:09:30
  like the Pac -Ventures. Some people don't. I'm
• 1:09:33
  not saying they're right or wrong. I'm just saying
• 1:09:35
  some people don't like the Pac -Ventures. But,
• 1:09:39
  you know, if we ignore Nintendo franchises. i
• 1:09:44
  don't know man i don't know i don't know well
• 1:09:47
  that's a very old person conversation so that
• 1:09:51
  leads us nicely into finishing up with a bit
• 1:09:54
  of retro respective of stuff that's happened
• 1:09:56
  on this week in the past not that one um so um
• 1:10:01
  this week uh lufia the legend returns that was
• 1:10:05
  the game boy one the third one that's a series
• 1:10:07
  i wish would would make a proper proper big comeback
• 1:10:09
  good like that age when you had a bunch of good
• 1:10:13
  uh jrpgs that weren't final fantasy or dragon
• 1:10:17
  quest or whatever i mean there are still some
• 1:10:19
  obviously but are there any games that are 25
• 1:10:21
  years old today alex uh not today there is but
• 1:10:27
  nothing of interest i did i did look that up
• 1:10:29
  because i was gonna say what a terrible release
• 1:10:31
  day it reminds me of that tragedy but unfortunately
• 1:10:34
  there weren't any um colin mccray dirt 2 which
• 1:10:38
  i just point out that's 15 years old Not only
• 1:10:42
  is that a good game, but it's the last to carry
• 1:10:43
  his name. Which, fair play, they did keep putting
• 1:10:47
  his name on those games for a good six or seven
• 1:10:52
  years after he died in that horrible helicopter
• 1:10:54
  crash. But good game. Ten years since Phoenix
• 1:10:58
  Wright, Ace Attorney, Spirit of Justice came
• 1:11:00
  out. So Capcom, the time, you know. We're ringing
• 1:11:06
  a bell here. Come on, for God's sake. Maybe Tokyo
• 1:11:09
  Game Show will be the one. We'll have to see.
• 1:11:10
  I don't think so, though. Big one, Crash Bandicoot
• 1:11:14
  is 30 this week. So that's a... Is he not going
• 1:11:18
  to get a concert? Yeah. They've got one iconic
• 1:11:23
  theme. I feel like Spyro had the better music,
• 1:11:26
  right? That main Crash theme is good. It would
• 1:11:33
  be the shortest concert in history. Brains is
• 1:11:36
  leaking his next song on the podcast. So that's
• 1:11:43
  30 years old. I got to enjoy, that's one of the
• 1:11:46
  few games my wife cares about and likes. And
• 1:11:50
  so me and my daughter were playing Switch today
• 1:11:52
  and we were playing Mario, whatever the 2D Mario
• 1:11:58
  is called. I forget now. My mind's gone. wonder
• 1:12:01
  with the wonder that's it we're playing wonder
• 1:12:03
  and then my wife's like can you get crash on
• 1:12:06
  this and as it happened we've got the insane
• 1:12:09
  collection or whatever it's called trilogy and
• 1:12:12
  so we booted that up and then they were playing
• 1:12:13
  the first level of crash and i was like oh that's
• 1:12:16
  nice um none of the other levels because you
• 1:12:19
  don't want it yeah i was always i was always
• 1:12:22
  even then i think probably because i had an n64
• 1:12:25
  so i had access to mario 64 and banjo I never
• 1:12:28
  understood why Crash was bigger than Spyro because
• 1:12:31
  the Spyro games are just objectively better.
• 1:12:34
  In fact, I'll go a step further in light of reviews
• 1:12:38
  this week. Spyro is the best. Those Spyro games
• 1:12:42
  are the best games that studio ever made. I looked
• 1:12:45
  through the list of Insomniac games earlier because
• 1:12:48
  of the Wolverine reviews. And I was like, yeah,
• 1:12:51
  they probably are. I like Insomniac, but I think
• 1:12:54
  Spyro is the best of them ever made. came out
• 1:12:58
  on the on the 10th of september 25 years ago
• 1:13:01
  advanced wars um which feels like a hell of a
• 1:13:06
  so they released that and then the very next
• 1:13:08
  day real war was a very real thing good thing
• 1:13:10
  that one didn't get delayed geez yeah i was just
• 1:13:13
  gonna say that did that get delayed or something
• 1:13:15
  well no because it came out it came out the day
• 1:13:18
  before right but you can see a world yeah well
• 1:13:21
  I don't know that's probably the Japan release
• 1:13:23
  but you can I'll double check but you can see
• 1:13:25
  a world in which had that game been coming out
• 1:13:27
  a week later it might have literally just been
• 1:13:30
  quietly cancelled it's crazier still so it wasn't
• 1:13:33
  worldwide but it came out in the US first it
• 1:13:40
  didn't actually come out in Japan until 2004
• 1:13:43
  which Maybe that was why, but it did come out
• 1:13:47
  in Europe in very early 2002. But yeah, anyway,
• 1:13:51
  so that's 25 years old. It feels like a very,
• 1:13:53
  very close, because especially in light of, yeah,
• 1:13:57
  the last Advance Wars got delayed because of
• 1:13:59
  the Ukraine war. You wonder if that had been
• 1:14:02
  originally scheduled for two weeks later, would
• 1:14:03
  that game have ever come out? Would we have ever
• 1:14:05
  got Advance Wars? Like, it's, who knows? Nintendo
• 1:14:09
  can be very sensitive to that stuff. Also on
• 1:14:13
  the same day, a trio of fifth birthdays. Life
• 1:14:16
  is Strange True Colors, which I thought was okay.
• 1:14:20
  But I do think those games have got ever so slightly
• 1:14:23
  worse each time. WarioWare Get It Together. Good.
• 1:14:26
  All the WarioWare games are good. And Tales of
• 1:14:30
  Arise, which that's the last mainline Tales,
• 1:14:32
  right? I like that a lot. We've got to be about
• 1:14:36
  you. Yeah. I mean, they've done like so many
• 1:14:39
  remasters. Yeah, yeah. But that's how you pad
• 1:14:43
  out the time, right? And then over the weekend,
• 1:14:46
  20 Years of Cooking Mama, at least in the West,
• 1:14:50
  which I put on this list just because I was like,
• 1:14:52
  I just remember in that era, it being inescapable.
• 1:14:58
  Like people who worked in game, you know, mates
• 1:15:01
  who worked in game, that was one of the games
• 1:15:03
  that they would sell hundreds and hundreds of
• 1:15:05
  copies of week after week after week, like just
• 1:15:07
  a sleeper monster. Rule of Rose. Has anyone played
• 1:15:14
  this game? I just know it's expensive and I'm
• 1:15:17
  supposed to play it, but I don't want to buy
• 1:15:19
  it. Do you remember this, Tom? I remember it.
• 1:15:24
  I don't think I... I may have had a copy of this
• 1:15:27
  years ago. Do you remember what happened with
• 1:15:29
  it? I'm not sure I ever played it. I don't. It's
• 1:15:32
  like a vague controversy around it or something
• 1:15:35
  is there, but I can't remember what it is. So
• 1:15:37
  it's like a Silent Hill -esque game. um from
• 1:15:40
  a dev called punchline who i'm pretty sure no
• 1:15:43
  longer exist um but basically it's about a young
• 1:15:51
  survival horror game and you play like a 15 16
• 1:15:54
  year old girl and it's a creepy haunted it's
• 1:15:58
  a creepy orphanage where all the other kids are
• 1:16:01
  evil um and it's all melee combat you've got
• 1:16:04
  a dog that was the big thing this was the first
• 1:16:06
  great dog game before when Fable 2 was just a
• 1:16:09
  glint in Peter's eye. But as these games are,
• 1:16:14
  especially it's more Silent Hill aligned than
• 1:16:17
  Resident Evil aligned. And it's all melee focused.
• 1:16:21
  And a lot of the enemies, you know, the people
• 1:16:23
  who are attacking you, the people who are orchestrating
• 1:16:27
  it are kids. And a lot of the enemies are like
• 1:16:30
  dolls and things like that, very small. And it's
• 1:16:32
  all melee and it's quite violent. And basically...
• 1:16:38
  There was like a nonce panic about it. I still
• 1:16:43
  don't really understand why. I mean, there was
• 1:16:47
  a whole thing. Sony published it in Japan and
• 1:16:50
  then Sony chose not to publish it in the US because
• 1:16:53
  they were worried about their own corporate image,
• 1:16:57
  which fair enough. But this is a game that is
• 1:17:01
  about childhood and about kids. And it released
• 1:17:05
  in the US without... any real problem um but
• 1:17:11
  then when it came to europe it caused a big problem
• 1:17:16
  peggy gave it a 16 which tells you what they
• 1:17:19
  thought about the content but the um the eu commission
• 1:17:23
  did an investigation of peggy over it um it was
• 1:17:28
  banned in a bunch of countries and that is why
• 1:17:31
  mikhail it's so expensive because in one region
• 1:17:34
  it didn't come out it just got like it didn't
• 1:17:37
  like well not one region it came out in bits
• 1:17:39
  of europe so i think like um it came out in poland
• 1:17:42
  but the uk release for instance was cancelled
• 1:17:44
  because it was in the sun they were like pedophile
• 1:17:46
  game um with kids torturing each other that was
• 1:17:51
  the that was the tone um and i've got a review
• 1:17:57
  copy of this game which is I think that's how
• 1:17:59
  I had it. I think I had a review copy. And it's
• 1:18:03
  long gone. But I don't think I ever... I don't
• 1:18:06
  think... I mean, I could have played this and
• 1:18:09
  reviewed it. I mean, it's so long ago. I mean,
• 1:18:11
  my memory could be gone. But I'm pretty sure
• 1:18:13
  I had a review copy of this as well. The VSC
• 1:18:17
  in the UK, when all this panic was going on,
• 1:18:19
  credit to them. And they no longer oversee games,
• 1:18:21
  of course. But they actually were one of the
• 1:18:25
  calmer ones where... when the newspapers were
• 1:18:29
  going nuts, the Secretary General of the VSC
• 1:18:32
  at the time said, quote, and this is really strong,
• 1:18:36
  fair play to them, I don't think Peggy would
• 1:18:37
  ever be this strong, which is always the loss
• 1:18:39
  about taking game ratings out of VSC's hands.
• 1:18:41
  Quote, I have no idea where the suggestion of
• 1:18:44
  in -game sadomasochism has come from, nor children
• 1:18:46
  being buried underground. These are things that
• 1:18:48
  have been completely made up. We're not worried
• 1:18:50
  about our integrity being called into question
• 1:18:52
  because these quotes are nonsense. And I think
• 1:18:56
  that's, that's something you only get from a
• 1:18:58
  body that, you know, went through the exorcist
• 1:19:01
  and all this shit in the, in the seventies and
• 1:19:03
  eighties with cinema. Um, whereas Peggy just
• 1:19:06
  is like in a panic. Um, yeah. So rule of Rose,
• 1:19:09
  that is 20 years old. And Brent has just posted
• 1:19:12
  a link about, I've forgotten that story. Yeah.
• 1:19:14
  You, I was thinking, where do I remember this
• 1:19:17
  game from? That's, that's, I remembered that
• 1:19:19
  story coming out last year where, uh, I'm assuming
• 1:19:22
  because of course it was. the release was cancelled
• 1:19:24
  but i think the copies were already printed and
• 1:19:27
  they uh were floating around out there in the
• 1:19:29
  ether and then i think it was two years ago someone
• 1:19:32
  found like a big crate of them and sold them
• 1:19:33
  on ebay for like retail price which tanked the
• 1:19:37
  resale market which is good i wonder what it's
• 1:19:39
  at now um it probably is expensive again i just
• 1:19:45
  remember yeah 200 quid 300 quid 500 Sounds about
• 1:19:49
  right. So it's gone back up again now. So I'll
• 1:19:52
  cling on to my review copy. 802 pounds one sold
• 1:19:55
  for. For what? That's a US copy. It must be much
• 1:20:01
  rarer in the US. Had my breath taken away and
• 1:20:03
  everything. 802 pounds sold 7th of September.
• 1:20:08
  So sold literally a few days ago. Jesus. And
• 1:20:12
  then Capcom versus SNK 2 is 25 this weekend.
• 1:20:15
  Woo. Just a great game. And Company of Heroes,
• 1:20:18
  underrated. And I suppose dead now? No, it's
• 1:20:22
  getting a remaster. I mean, Company of Heroes
• 1:20:24
  1 is getting a definitive edition. Yeah, I don't
• 1:20:27
  know when. So they do this weird stuff where
• 1:20:31
  those games are really old, right? Like they
• 1:20:33
  got ported to PC. I mean, they started on PC.
• 1:20:35
  They got this random old Steam release which
• 1:20:38
  kind of breaks on modern computers and stuff.
• 1:20:40
  But then the UK... company feral interactive
• 1:20:43
  they did this amazing switch and mobile version
• 1:20:46
  of it and i think now i assume they're using
• 1:20:49
  that as a base for the remaster because they
• 1:20:52
  did that for total war when that got remastered
• 1:20:54
  total war roam so i'm curious to see how that
• 1:20:56
  is but yeah like that was i think that was like
• 1:20:58
  the only quote -unquote game like that which
• 1:21:01
  was on switch one and i feel like mouse controls
• 1:21:04
  on switch 2 would be perfect for that so We'll
• 1:21:06
  see if it ever happens. See, I just thought the
• 1:21:08
  series was dead because obviously Sega killed,
• 1:21:10
  well, not killed, but Relic went independent
• 1:21:12
  and I assumed they didn't get the IP. No, they're
• 1:21:17
  self -publishing Company of Heroes 3 now. So
• 1:21:19
  that changed over. Okay, okay. That's good. It
• 1:21:21
  shows how much I remember. I loved that game,
• 1:21:23
  but I just, if I hope for anything, we haven't
• 1:21:26
  talked about the EA stuff this week, but there's
• 1:21:28
  rumblings at EA and every time I read about what
• 1:21:30
  the Saudis are planning to do with EA, I'm just
• 1:21:32
  like, just sell the Command & Conquer IP. Just
• 1:21:34
  sell it to someone who gives a shit. Anyway,
• 1:21:37
  this is a long one. So, yeah. Any last thoughts
• 1:21:43
  on any of those retrospective games that didn't
• 1:21:46
  just get mentioned? I think you could trade your
• 1:21:52
  review copy of Rule of Rules for the Command
• 1:21:54
  & Conquer license. That's probably what it's
• 1:21:57
  worth. Or you could probably buy one current
• 1:22:00
  -gen console. And here are the games that did
• 1:22:03
  come out on... this day brains because you asked
• 1:22:06
  mario hoops free on free 20 years ago 25 years
• 1:22:09
  ago the game boy color version of 007 the world
• 1:22:12
  is not enough okay which is as i recall is okay
• 1:22:15
  that was that era when there were really good
• 1:22:17
  weird little it's like that game boy metal gear
• 1:22:20
  solid brilliant um game boy advanced version
• 1:22:24
  of clonoa empire of dreams okay which again that's
• 1:22:28
  a funny one because then you've got game boy
• 1:22:30
  and gba running side by side at that time Um,
• 1:22:35
  so yeah, there you go. Those are your games.
• 1:22:37
  So not the most, um, not the most exciting day.
• 1:22:40
  There were other things going on to say the least.
• 1:22:43
  Um, Anything you want to plug gentlemen. My blog.
• 1:22:52
  Have you read my blog? Has everyone subscribed
• 1:22:54
  to my blog? Like potty mass .com. Brains. Where
• 1:22:58
  you're boasting about being a very good parent.
• 1:23:00
  I don't subscribe to anything, but all my emails
• 1:23:03
  are on, like, fucking spam lists anyway, so I
• 1:23:05
  might as well just put you on there. Thanks.
• 1:23:09
  Yeah, go and sign up to that. It's free. My wife
• 1:23:14
  said she didn't realise I was this funny. That's
• 1:23:21
  love. How long have you been married? I don't
• 1:23:24
  know. Been together about 17 years. So it took
• 1:23:26
  her that long to... That's fair enough. I don't
• 1:23:28
  blame her. I'm still waiting for the penny to
• 1:23:30
  drop on my end. Yeah. But yeah, so sign up to
• 1:23:35
  that. It's good. I write it, so I'm a bit biased,
• 1:23:37
  but yeah. I've signed up. There you go. There
• 1:23:42
  you go. It's that easy. I'll spare you the ways
• 1:23:44
  to upgrade now to a paid membership. I mean.
• 1:23:50
  God, all my friends pay me. I'll probably be
• 1:23:52
  able to make 50 quid a month from it. That's
• 1:23:57
  the big money bag there. Take that to the casino,
• 1:23:59
  put that on black and see what happens. I will
• 1:24:03
  plug Respec and RPGs actually because there's
• 1:24:07
  a lot of great Gamescom stuff up on both sides
• 1:24:12
  now. So like Respec, there's like an interview
• 1:24:14
  for Exodus, which is that new Mass Effect style
• 1:24:16
  game. There's Me on Lego Skylines, Dragostogma
• 1:24:20
  2 Dark Arisen, Guns of Escapade, great Sunset
• 1:24:25
  Visitor. Thousand Times Resist interview that
• 1:24:27
  Mikael did. I wrote some stuff about Stranger
• 1:24:30
  Than Heaven, interviewed the devs. Crazy Taxid
• 1:24:32
  interviewed the devs. Ontos, Petty Planet, and
• 1:24:34
  a Final Fantasy VII Revelation interview. All
• 1:24:38
  that stuff is on respec .net right now, and there's
• 1:24:41
  more to come. We're not even done with all that
• 1:24:42
  Gamescom content. And similarly, RPG site, there's
• 1:24:46
  some overlap, so Exodus covered over there, but
• 1:24:49
  also Final Fantasy Resonance. A lot of indie
• 1:24:54
  devs. Final Fantasy Resonance Onimusha, Persona
• 1:24:59
  4 Revival interview, Dragon Quest Monsters, loads
• 1:25:05
  of Final Fantasy. They had like four Final Fantasy
• 1:25:08
  articles yesterday. I would have found time to
• 1:25:11
  talk about that this week, but we are so out
• 1:25:13
  of time. So maybe we'll talk about it next. Well,
• 1:25:17
  not next week because I'm not here, but maybe
• 1:25:18
  the week after because I'm going to play it again
• 1:25:20
  at Tokyo Game Show. So there is that. So, yeah.
• 1:25:25
  Mikael, Brains, any last bits from you guys?
• 1:25:29
  I feel like I had something to say, but I forgot.
• 1:25:31
  So, you know, maybe next time. Next time. See
• 1:25:34
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