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Did Jackie O give herself a nasty surprise? · The Front

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  Speaker 1: including why nine superstar Kyle Stefanovic would be reinventing himself
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  Speaker 1: as an anti vaxxer. Steve Jackson is The Australian's Media
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  Speaker 1: Diary editor, Steve. No one is safe from you, not
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  Speaker 1: even when they're out trying to have a quiet dinner
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  Speaker 1: on a Friday night in Sydney. What are you doing
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  Speaker 1: to poor Mark Wilson from the ABC?
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  Speaker 2: The most surprising thing is that anyone recognized him. He's
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  Speaker 2: on a quiet night out at a restaurant. In Pot's point. Look,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to be honest. I wouldn't recognize him in
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  Speaker 2: a lineup, but somehow the restauranteur has recognized him. And
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  Speaker 2: she's quite famous for doing what she calls barn me TV.
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  Speaker 2: She's got a bag, yet there's a microphone in it.
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  Speaker 2: She films herself interviewing celebrities and ABC reporters at a
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  Speaker 2: restaurant and had a bit of a chat with him. Somehow, somehow,
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  Speaker 2: he hasn't realized that this is a hot mic moment
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  Speaker 2: or you know, the ABC saying he didn't realize this
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  Speaker 2: video was going to go anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: Come on the camera and the microphone. I mean, it's
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  Speaker 1: easy to make these mistakes, Jacko. If you're not experienced
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  Speaker 1: in a podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Like giveaway speaking into a microphone, now that's not going
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  Speaker 2: to be for anything. Surely he's an experienced on on
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  Speaker 2: air broadcaster. I didn't I didn't realize talking into a microphone.
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  Speaker 1: He's essentially the tables have been turned because he's being
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  Speaker 1: vox popped about what he thinks about the fact that
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  Speaker 1: this restaurant is in a feud with City of Sydney
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  Speaker 1: Council about whether or not it's allowed to have tables
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  Speaker 1: and chairs out on a public footpath. Now, this is
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  Speaker 1: an existential crisis for this particular restaurant. The restaurateur, Naji
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  Speaker 1: Chu is very forthright. She's she's got a bit of
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  Speaker 1: a blue tongue. She's vocal, she's vocal, and she's happy
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  Speaker 1: to recruit anyone to her cause of fighting Sydney City Council.
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  Speaker 1: The question is should Mark Wilsey have joined in. Let's
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  Speaker 1: have a look at what he said.
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  Speaker 3: Streets of that time, like, guess your care. You know
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  Speaker 3: what this awesome.
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  Speaker 4: From I'm paying taxes, give me a medal.
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  Speaker 3: Here we go, so nice to see you live come back.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you don't have to go to Vietnam to
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  Speaker 3: get a live right now, he'd actually in.
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  Speaker 1: Australia, Jack, you're from Queensland and you pay taxes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. I don't mention it in every sentence.
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  Speaker 2: So I do love that he's gone all state of origin.
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  Speaker 2: If in doubt, just say I'm from Queensland.
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  Speaker 1: So just to be Devil's advocate here, it's okay for
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  Speaker 1: him to have an opinion about Sydney politics, isn't it.
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  Speaker 1: Clover Wore is the polarizing figure.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well everyone's allowed to have an opinion. He's in
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  Speaker 2: he's on his off time and and like it's quite funny.
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  Speaker 2: The ABC said that he's obviously in jest, and and
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  Speaker 2: he is. He's he's having a great night. He looks
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  Speaker 2: like he's having a great time. It sounds like he's
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  Speaker 2: having a fantastic time. It clearly is. It's at the
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  Speaker 2: point where someone comes up to you at a restaurant
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  Speaker 2: going can you speak into the bread roll microphone? Where
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  Speaker 2: you are a broadcaster? Now you've been out to restaurants,
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  Speaker 2: I'd take it if someone came ending that to you,
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  Speaker 2: is your response, Hey, F them and F this, and
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  Speaker 2: I'm from Admittedly you're not from Queensland. You can't claim
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  Speaker 2: that sort of heritage. But is that how you react
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  Speaker 2: knowing Let's face it, every phone is a camera. Everything
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  Speaker 2: is going online nowadays.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. The ABC has a long running battle with its
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  Speaker 1: stars understanding the difference between their private and their public lives,
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  Speaker 1: whether it's okay for them to comment on things on
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  Speaker 1: social media or not. I think it's something that actually
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  Speaker 1: all media professionals struggle with because we were all encouraged
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  Speaker 1: at one point to have social media followings of our
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  Speaker 1: own and express opinions. If those opinions are problematic for
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  Speaker 1: your employer, that's where you strike trouble. And Mark Willis's
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  Speaker 1: employer hasn't really made much of an effort to defend him,
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  Speaker 1: have they.
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  Speaker 2: Well not I have, because the second I send across
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  Speaker 2: this video on Sunday, I got three or four emails
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  Speaker 2: from various powers that be his boss, The investigations editor
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  Speaker 2: Joe Puccini asking for permission to see this clip. Gavin Fang,
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  Speaker 2: who you know, big defender of all staff against criticism,
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  Speaker 2: the editorial director in there, asking for permission to watch
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  Speaker 2: this clip. So almost instantaneously it's become the most watched
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  Speaker 2: thing at the ABC on Sunday afternoon. When I've fired
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  Speaker 2: off a couple of questions about it, they've come back
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  Speaker 2: and said, look, he doesn't know, he doesn't know anything
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  Speaker 2: about council politics, And quite clearly I agree. He's not
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  Speaker 2: actually making political commentary on clover More, although he does
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  Speaker 2: mention her, and he's not talking about specific council rules
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  Speaker 2: or regulations. He's just going street side dining ef and brilliant.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, if his next investigation is about me standards
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  Speaker 1: in the City of Sydney, he might have to absent
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  Speaker 1: himself or at least make it disc closure. Someone else
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  Speaker 1: who is very free with his opinions these days is
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  Speaker 1: Karl Stefanovic, the former and long serving host of The
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  Speaker 1: Today Show. I said for he's actually nearly former, isn't he, Jaco,
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  Speaker 1: He's on his last legs.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it certainly sounds like it, and the interesting thing
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  Speaker 2: for me, but the astonishing thing for me is the
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  Speaker 2: way this has been handled by nine. Look, we've been
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  Speaker 2: talking about this last year. We know, we revealed that
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  Speaker 2: initially they wanted to get rid of Sarah Arbo. Unofficially
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  Speaker 2: they've never confirmed that, but they wanted to parachute Samantha
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  Speaker 2: Arminitch into that role because they know that she's got
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  Speaker 2: a following and they thought, let's spice it up because
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  Speaker 2: the Today Show has lost in the national ratings for
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  Speaker 2: as long as Karl's been there, So you know, they've
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  Speaker 2: been working through plans. This is, as much as our
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  Speaker 2: readers like to tell me, on top of who cares
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  Speaker 2: no one, what's his free to are, this is still
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  Speaker 2: a very lucrative breakfast time, so it makes a lot
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  Speaker 2: of money for the network, carries the network in a
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  Speaker 2: lot of ways. So I've been looking at me plans
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  Speaker 2: for how can we spice this up now. At the
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  Speaker 2: end of last year, as the diary faithful will remember,
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  Speaker 2: Karl Stefanovik went into his bosses and that includes Fiona
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  Speaker 2: dr and the Bengali of all things television talent at nine,
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  Speaker 2: Michael Healy, and said can you give us one more year?
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  Speaker 2: And can Sarah stay on with me for this extra year?
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  Speaker 2: And they've given it to him. It's come with a
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  Speaker 2: few caveats including, hey, can we chop your salary by
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  Speaker 2: the best part of a million dollars? And look, he's
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  Speaker 2: accepted this, but what he's done in that process is gone, Hey,
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  Speaker 2: can I just do an independent podcast.
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  Speaker 1: On which he's rebranded himself as the truth teller? You know,
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  Speaker 1: the matter is not afraid to share his opinions anymore.
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  Speaker 2: I mean the thing is from the nine perspective of
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  Speaker 2: your independent podcast, Yeah, sure, go to your little side
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  Speaker 2: project that no one's going to watch. What they didn't
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  Speaker 2: realize is that Carl would use that umbrella permission for
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  Speaker 2: this podcast to be independent to share all views and
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  Speaker 2: reviews that he is secretly held along held at nine
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  Speaker 2: that he hasn't been able to say. And I mocked
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  Speaker 2: him at first, going come on the Today Show. That's
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  Speaker 2: been the Karl Stefanovic show for twenty years. You haven't
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  Speaker 2: held anything back. Turns out he has been holding stuff
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  Speaker 2: back and we are he's following through. We're seeing the
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  Speaker 2: side of Karl Stefanovic that Team Player nine network front
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  Speaker 2: man hasn't shown.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, let's watch a little bit of Karl Stefanovic talking
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  Speaker 1: about the subject that until now he's been too shy
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  Speaker 1: to talk about vaccination.
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  Speaker 4: Can we talk about COVID for a little bit, because
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  Speaker 4: it's often mentioned in the comments. Like I said, I
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  Speaker 4: read them more because I'm genuinely interested in how people
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  Speaker 4: view things. The one thing they say about me is
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  Speaker 4: that I supported the COVID JAB and I have regrets
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  Speaker 4: from that time. Yeah, and I am definitely sorry for
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  Speaker 4: the role I played in not questioning the science, in
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  Speaker 4: not questioning more the government mandates. And I feel like
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  Speaker 4: I isolated people because of that, And I don't think
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  Speaker 4: the media should be involved in that kind of messaging.
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  Speaker 4: What I do believe is that we should have been
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  Speaker 4: there to offer some sort of education, but we shouldn't
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  Speaker 4: have taken that step further and been part of a campaign.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm legitimately sorry for that because I don't know
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  Speaker 4: how that would have felt for people out there.
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  Speaker 1: The campaign that he's talking about is getting the COVID
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  Speaker 1: jab live on TV, which you know the Today Shows,
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  Speaker 1: advertisers and every sensible person in Australia was also doing.
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  Speaker 1: The COVID vaccine was the way we reopened our economy.
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  Speaker 1: It saved would have saved thousands of lives, and it's
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  Speaker 1: part of the incredible safety and benefit of vaccines in
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  Speaker 1: Australia that have you know, saved us from diseases like
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  Speaker 1: polio and measles. Why the hell is Karl Steffanovick suddenly
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  Speaker 1: becoming an anti vaxer.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, look, unfortunately I have to say Carl's a hundred
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  Speaker 2: percent wrong with what he's saying. Every media outlet acting
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  Speaker 2: responsibly bend it together to go. Let's not put fear
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  Speaker 2: into the community. Let's encourage everyone because this is what
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  Speaker 2: we need to do to reopen the economy. Go out
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  Speaker 2: and get your vaccines, Go get your jobs and I
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  Speaker 2: think that is one hundred percent wrong.
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  Speaker 1: I agree, it's completely irresponsible and the point of the
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  Speaker 1: media is to counter disinformation. It was not just on
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  Speaker 1: this His first guest on the show was Pauline Hanson.
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  Speaker 1: He is stepping into the far right of Australian politics.
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  Speaker 2: Now. He knows what all podcasters find out quite quickly,
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  Speaker 2: the right wing algorithm. He started with Pauline Hanson. He's
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  Speaker 2: had Barnaby Joyce on, he was with him again at
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  Speaker 2: the weekend. He's been talking about, you know, vaccine, skeptic views.
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  Speaker 2: He knows these are the things that gets him clicks.
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  Speaker 2: He knows this because when he tried to interview Prime
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  Speaker 2: Mister Anthony ALBERIZI and I was watching along live. I
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  Speaker 2: think about you know, a few thousand we're watching it
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  Speaker 2: live at the time, I was the one that was
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  Speaker 2: and posting comments saying soft interview, Why you're letting him
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  Speaker 2: get away with it? You're such a letdown, You're such
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  Speaker 2: a disappointment. So he knows he has driven a fan
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  Speaker 2: base and people are saying he wants to be the
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  Speaker 2: Joe Bogan. I think he's calling, but he realizes there
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  Speaker 2: is an audience that wants that on social media and
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  Speaker 2: it quite potentially is a profitable audience. He's got a
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  Speaker 2: full time exclusive sponsor now through a gambling giant, and
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  Speaker 2: he knows that if you lean into this, that is
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  Speaker 2: an audience base you can build. I think it's problematic
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  Speaker 2: when he has guests on his show which we have
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  Speaker 2: seen and things go unchallenge even with the Paul Enhancent
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  Speaker 2: interview he started off on, she's talking about Gina Reinhart
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  Speaker 2: being one of Australia's great self made billionaires. Now, Gina
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  Speaker 2: Reinhart is without doubt a great Australian in regards to
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  Speaker 2: her philanthropy for the Olympic swim team she puts on
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  Speaker 2: fireworks in Perth. The one thing she's not is a
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  Speaker 2: self made billionaire. And it's not wrong. It's in fact
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  Speaker 2: his job to go, Hey, like a lot of what
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  Speaker 2: you're saying, but just going to have to check the
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  Speaker 2: till on this one. And that brings it back to
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  Speaker 2: the problem is if he has been he hasn't been
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  Speaker 2: allowed to say it, or hasn't felt as though he's
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  Speaker 2: been allowed to say it until he's got this umbrella
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  Speaker 2: protection that now under the terms of his new agreement,
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  Speaker 2: he can say whatever he likes on his podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Coming up, What do Kyle and Jackie O have in
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  Speaker 1: we'll be back after this break. Speaking of robust debate
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  Speaker 1: in audio Kyle and Jackie Oh, the story just keeps
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  Speaker 1: on giving JACKO, you're reporting today that that's heading for
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  Speaker 1: the courts, or at least that Kyle is lawyered up
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  Speaker 1: and feeling very confident.
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  Speaker 3: Oh.
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  Speaker 2: Well, the thing that's gotten me, and I don't know
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  Speaker 2: about you is the car stuff hasn't caught me by surprise.
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  Speaker 2: They've given him fourteen days or we're going to terminate
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  Speaker 2: your contract. What did you make of Jackie Oh last week,
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden she's talking about sewing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's saying I didn't quit. The media narrative out
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  Speaker 1: there is really wrong. However, I'm going to remain in
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  Speaker 1: my mansion and just send some people out to collect
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  Speaker 1: some uber eats. These people eat a lot of uber eats,
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  Speaker 1: don't they cook?
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  Speaker 3: What's going on?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well I don't blame them, but you know, if
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  Speaker 2: you can get someone else to cook for you, more
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  Speaker 2: power to you. But all of a sudden, it feels
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  Speaker 2: like she's regretting or walking back. And I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if this has come. I've got a theory. I've got
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  Speaker 2: a theory.
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  Speaker 1: She seems very upset.
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  Speaker 2: Well I would be, as I reckon, she's this is
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  Speaker 2: no substance to this at this stage, I reckon. What's
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  Speaker 2: happened is she has said I don't want to work
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  Speaker 2: with Kyle. All right, that's over. You can have a
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  Speaker 2: different show. Let's talk about that, all right. That contract's done.
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  Speaker 2: Now this ten million I'm still getting paid a year
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  Speaker 2: and aarn's gone. We know that contracts. We took that
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  Speaker 2: one up. So this new show you're doing for a
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  Speaker 2: million dollars a year or whatever the new amount is.
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  Speaker 2: And I think she's the penny might have dropped going
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  Speaker 2: hall on. So we're renegotiating the price. And yeah, that's
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  Speaker 2: what happens when you read negotiate a new contract.
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  Speaker 1: Well, apparently she and her business partner are bringing Meghan
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  Speaker 1: Markle to Australia now to appear potentially on their besties podcast,
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  Speaker 1: which is called Her Best Life. I'm looking forward to
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  Speaker 1: hearing what she thinks.
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  Speaker 2: About rannas fantastic. I mean, like, no, it's fantastic because
• 14:45
  Speaker 2: the last time I tuned in, she was telling us
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  Speaker 2: how to make ice cubes, Meghan Markle, which, to be fair,
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  Speaker 2: I'd never covered off in home economics because I didn't
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  Speaker 2: think anyone needed instructions.
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  Speaker 1: I think you'd be pretty good at putting pretzels into
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  Speaker 1: a plastic bag.
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  Speaker 2: On the show next week, how to Boil Water.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe Meghan Markle could be Kyle's news barring partner.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and the thing is, we do know that Meghan
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  Speaker 2: Markle is in need of something to do now because
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: Netflix has just gone even for us. And I think
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: everyone watched her homewear show or whatever that was, with
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  Speaker 2: Love Meghan, With Love Meg.
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  Speaker 1: I watched every episode. I could not get enough. I
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  Speaker 1: binged it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but even that, those numbers mustn't have added up
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  Speaker 2: to the massive, ridiculous amount of money they were paying
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  Speaker 2: for it.
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  Speaker 1: No, Jacka, you don't understand. It was always the plan
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  Speaker 1: for her partnership with Netflix to just be a wonderful
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  Speaker 1: launching point for her opportunity to share with the audience.
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  Speaker 1: And now she's moving on in independently growing. I think
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  Speaker 1: we call it moving.
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  Speaker 2: Forward consciously uncoupling from Netflix exactly.
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  Speaker 1: This is always part of the plan.
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  Speaker 2: Apparently people always love not making money anymore. It's it's
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  Speaker 2: always it's one of those things. Whenever anyone mysteriously leaves
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  Speaker 2: a business and they've gone off to explore new opportunities.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think anyone's ever wanted to explore new opportunities.
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  Speaker 3: Have they.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want any new opportunities, don't want to explore anything.
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  Speaker 1: I can barely cope with the ones I've got now.
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  Speaker 1: Steve Jackson, thank you very much, Thank you so much.
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