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The Deb Effect: Kindness as a Catalyst for Change · Stuck No More Voices

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: Hey, I'm so glad you're joining us.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, it's Unleashing Kingdom Voices.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Teresa Croft, your host, and this episode is brought to you by Millionaire Momentum.
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  Speaker 1: A short video will be in the show notes to tell you more about that.
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: So I'm so excited about our guests.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, we're talking a mile a minute before we went live and I figured we'd better go live.
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: You might miss something.
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  Speaker 1: Deb Harrison is my guest.
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  Speaker 1: She's a growth and change catalyst and kindness advocate.
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: We could just stop right now Helping individuals and organizations improve their wellbeing and performance.
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  Speaker 1: In addition, deb is a powerful writer and speaker.
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  Speaker 1: Her services span from coaching and facilitation to planning and training.
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  Speaker 1: Her past guests are a list of elite people.
• 0:56
  Speaker 1: So please help me.
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: I'm Deb Harrison.
• 1:00
  Speaker 1: Deb, so cool.
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: Hey, great to be here.
• 1:04
  Speaker 2: I always got to tell excuse me, I got to do this.
• 1:06
  Speaker 2: Go for it.
• 1:07
  Speaker 2: I feel you, I feel you, I've got the allergy too.
• 1:10
  Speaker 1: It's too much cream in the coffee, deb.
• 1:13
  Speaker 1: Let me tell you guys how I met Deb.
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  Speaker 1: We're at the same mastermind Awesome mastermind and I think it was my first mastermind and I got to meet Deb and Linda who introduced me.
• 1:24
  Speaker 1: But I'll never forget it.
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  Speaker 1: It was like the end of the mastermind.
• 1:27
  Speaker 1: I look over and they're announcing an award and I just got this feeling that Deb's going to win it.
• 1:32
  Speaker 1: So I'm really keyed in on her.
• 1:34
  Speaker 1: She's videoing it.
• 1:35
  Speaker 1: And then they said her name and she's like and I wanted to grab over there and grab your phone, but I did find out in a video.
• 1:42
  Speaker 2: Somebody else did.
• 1:44
  Speaker 1: That's my memory.
• 1:45
  Speaker 1: And then just kindness exudes out of you and that's pretty cool because you could be in a mastermind and not know people.
• 1:54
  Speaker 1: But I can definitely attest to the kindness effect, the Deb effect.
• 1:59
  Speaker 1: So anyway, it's great to have you here.
• 2:01
  Speaker 2: It's great to be here and I love that and I love that introduction and I love that story.
• 2:05
  Speaker 2: A couple other people had similar things Like afterwards grabbed me and were like you were videotaping for whoever was going to get the award and I was like, indeed was yeah like we got a cross between do I run over there and get her phone?
• 2:18
  Speaker 1: But I wasn't thinking of pulling my phone out, but I'm glad you had lots of fun.
• 2:21
  Speaker 1: Somebody else grabbed it.
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  Speaker 1: That was fun.
• 2:23
  Speaker 1: So why don't you just give us a little journey of how you've got to this place, where I think you're a really amazing person.
• 2:32
  Speaker 1: You know how to use video, which is my heart, but more than anything, give me a journey of your voice.
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  Speaker 2: Ooh, journey of my voice.
• 2:41
  Speaker 2: So my voice, I think, has been pretty consistent, right.
• 2:45
  Speaker 2: So I think, like sometimes people look back over their life and they'll feel like they've had different voices.
• 2:50
  Speaker 2: I feel like my voice has been pretty consistent in terms of its messaging, but the volume and visibility of it is what's really changed over the course of my life, and especially the last couple of years.
• 3:01
  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 1: So what was that journey like to grow your voice?
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  Speaker 1: Was it like just a consistent work or was it there was life, stuff that happened, that helped the journey or didn't help the journey?
• 3:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, both yes to everything that you just said.
• 3:19
  Speaker 2: So when I was little right, if you talk to people from when I was a small child and I grew up in a household there was a lot of trauma, but there was also a lot of amazing beauty, and one of the things I'll talk about a lot of times in my keynote speaking is the fact that beautiful and awful things can exist together and it's a tricky thing to maneuver through it because we tend to want to say this is a good situation or this is a bad situation, and it's an intermingling, right.
• 3:45
  Speaker 2: So I grew up in this household where I had encouraged to read and encouraged to be creative and encouraged to explore the outdoors, but there was also both my parents were alcoholics and there was abuse, so trying to maneuvering through that dynamics.
• 3:57
  Speaker 2: But in the midst of that, I was like the one that just kept wanting to speak out right, and I think it could have gone either way.
• 4:06
  Speaker 2: I could have suppressed it, and there was definitely a lot of emotions that were oppressed and that that created a lot of turmoil that I had to work through.
• 4:13
  Speaker 2: But I was constantly trying to explore my voice and it's hard to tell exactly what triggered it.
• 4:20
  Speaker 2: But I can remember, even being really little.
• 4:21
  Speaker 2: I was like in second grade and I had joined the Little League team and I was like coaching some of the older girls, like giving them encouragement, and some of the older girls were joking around with oh you're like a little mini coach.
• 4:33
  Speaker 2: They started to call me short stuff and that just carried on.
• 4:38
  Speaker 2: I've always had this desire to see the good in people and help them see it in themselves and help them use it.
• 4:44
  Speaker 2: So for the length of my life I can remember all of these experiences and I think what's helped me to grow my voice and my confidence in speaking it is recognizing that people aren't going to know that you can help them if you don't tell them that you can help them and that we have all of us these amazing gifts, these amazing stories, and part of what creates the beauty of our world is us all sharing those so that we can all benefit from them.
• 5:11
  Speaker 2: And the more I leaned into that and realized, if I don't share this, what is the bigger reason for me not sharing it and what is the benefit if I do share it?
• 5:21
  Speaker 2: And the incredible feedback from folks like yourself, right, like you saying that message, and I have a whole other story from that experience when we first met each other too.
• 5:31
  Speaker 2: But every time somebody speaks into me and tells me, deb, you're so kind and you're really doing great things, that message comes with me.
• 5:40
  Speaker 2: What you just said to me, I'll carry with me for the rest of my life, like that's now going to become part of my journey.
• 5:45
  Speaker 2: So every impact I make you will be part of that impact, because you just spoke into me with those words that's cool, yeah, yeah.
• 5:52
  Speaker 2: How cool is that?
• 5:52
  Speaker 1: right.
• 5:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I love you speak to me on this.
• 5:56
  Speaker 1: If you got something to help people, what's keeping you from sharing it?
• 6:02
  Speaker 1: Now, the reason that kind of hits me, and I appreciate you saying that.
• 6:05
  Speaker 1: It's like I can see all the slimy way things are done where people are just spamming online and I'm like I don't want that.
• 6:12
  Speaker 1: But I could get to the judge not all of judgment, but get to the.
• 6:16
  Speaker 1: I don't want that too.
• 6:17
  Speaker 1: I never share because I don't want to look like them.
• 6:19
  Speaker 1: I'm really serious.
• 6:20
  Speaker 1: I'm bridging that gap between how do I okay, I don't like they talk about their product, their service.
• 6:26
  Speaker 1: It just blows me away.
• 6:28
  Speaker 1: But I got to bridge the gap because I do have some services and so that really spoke to me.
• 6:34
  Speaker 1: I just got to tell you that.
• 6:35
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying that because I think when you pick up stuff, I think that's for you, cause that just blew out.
• 6:44
  Speaker 1: Let me ask you this I love this as Christian.
• 6:48
  Speaker 1: When you were young, you gave me a little idea.
• 6:51
  Speaker 1: But for fun, what did you like to do when you're just alone playing?
• 6:58
  Speaker 2: Ah, so a lot of some of the same things.
• 7:01
  Speaker 2: So I loved to climb trees and explore the woods.
• 7:03
  Speaker 2: I did have an older brother so I wasn't always alone doing that, he was with me doing that.
• 7:08
  Speaker 2: But I part of that, like my exploration, whether it was in the woods or whether it was in my bedroom, like adventures, like there was constantly creation going on in my mind with my stuffed animals were talking or walking through the woods and I'm writing a story.
• 7:22
  Speaker 2: That like creative thing was turning.
• 7:25
  Speaker 2: That I think I took for granted.
• 7:27
  Speaker 2: That's what's going on in everybody's head and it's not until you get a little bit older and you start to share it that people start to point out that's unique and that's so.
• 7:36
  Speaker 2: That's that really runs through.
• 7:38
  Speaker 2: I just love to be creating things in my head and I would do.
• 7:42
  Speaker 2: I would go in my closet, like I can't really tell you exactly what I thought the benefit was, but like I would.
• 7:48
  Speaker 2: I actually can.
• 7:50
  Speaker 2: But I would go in my closet.
• 7:51
  Speaker 2: I think the security in there because there was a lot of stuff that was going on and I would like to talk to God in there or I would talk to my stuffed animals.
• 7:59
  Speaker 2: So I like to have that period of isolation, of selfness and being able to do that, but a lot of again writing, reading, exploring.
• 8:10
  Speaker 2: I liked to get dirty, that was fun and that hasn't changed, so you could probably still find me out playing in the dirt.
• 8:20
  Speaker 1: The reason I like to ask that question is, I think there are threads to our identity, to what we like to do now from our past, like for me it was.
• 8:30
  Speaker 1: We lived in this one house.
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: I was probably five or six and they had huge steps and I'd climb up to the top of the steps and I'd preach.
• 8:37
  Speaker 1: I was Catholic, but I and then we moved and I'll never forget it.
• 8:43
  Speaker 1: There weren't those large steps and I'm like, oh, I saw an apple cart.
• 8:47
  Speaker 1: So I get on top of the apple cart and I would preach.
• 8:50
  Speaker 1: What do I do?
• 8:51
  Speaker 1: Years later, I open up an apple computer, I have an apple phone, with filters, of course.
• 8:57
  Speaker 1: So I love that question because look what you're doing now.
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: You're just doing an adult version and you really are creating, no doubt about that, but you're really I'd like to think like on YouTube.
• 9:08
  Speaker 1: You're exploring, but it's a new frontier and you're leading the way for others to follow what you're doing.
• 9:17
  Speaker 1: That's brilliant.
• 9:18
  Speaker 1: I mean think, have you ever thought about that?
• 9:20
  Speaker 1: You are creating a new frontier.
• 9:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is powerful.
• 9:25
  Speaker 2: That is, I gotta tell you, Teresa, one of the things I think is really and you just said before, so I wanna refer back to that how will we take pieces of what people say and you're like, oh, I hear that message for me, I know that message is for me, and I've been talking lately a lot about this because people have been saying to me like, oh, what's the secret, what's where your YouTube is growing and stuff, and so it's interesting that in around I forget exact year, but I wanna say like 2010, 2011, I had started doing video because I always liked photography and videography.
• 9:56
  Speaker 2: So even before, so let me say even before and online.
• 9:59
  Speaker 2: So before 2010 and before 2011, when I was a little kid, you got the camcorder right.
• 10:04
  Speaker 2: I was creating videos, Like I was thought it was cool.
• 10:07
  Speaker 2: I'm not just capturing the moment with the camera, which I also love but I'm capturing the essence of it, because I think, like moments are so beautiful and it's really cool to capture them.
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: There was sometimes you can't quite, so I'd already always had a love for that format and being able to look back at it, but then I started doing, I did a couple of go lives on Facebook and it was like 2011.
• 10:27
  Speaker 2: So it really wasn't like the thing to do.
• 10:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was major to your brave back then.
• 10:32
  Speaker 1: That's what people said yeah.
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: And so when I think about if I'd kept going, if I kept going alive on Facebook from 2011, we're talking 13 years later just the sheer number of followers I would probably have because of time, the passage of time, so you get to go and oh wow, I could have done that right, but it wasn't the same message and even though, like, I look back at like my early go lives and I'm like all right, I'm still saying the same thing but I've been through a whole journey and I think it's very purposeful for me to have not done that and to be coming in now, like you just said, the new frontier and I'm like yeah.
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: That is.
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: This is me at 48, right it's not me as I was 13 years ago.
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: It's me, at 48, going, you know what?
• 11:17
  Speaker 2: I'm going to step forward and I'm going to say some of this stuff, and some of it's not necessarily going to be what's trending, but it's going to be what's on my heart and that's what I want to do.
• 11:25
  Speaker 2: And, as we talked before the, before we started the recording, the analytics are essential, right?
• 11:32
  Speaker 2: You want to study those analytics, you want to understand what's working and what's not working.
• 11:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: You don't want the analytics to define your voice and your message.
• 11:39
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, you can.
• 11:41
  Speaker 2: There are many people that just want to be good on YouTube.
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: That's their goal, and so then they're going to maybe adjust.
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: They're going to try to pick the niche that's popular but not saturated.
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: But for me, youtube wasn't the goal.
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: Youtube was a platform that I'm going to use to spread the message, and so my focus needs to be on my message.
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, thank you for saying that, because I agree with that totally.
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: When you said you had trauma, I always talk about the voice.
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: I've been doing that for quite a few years, but I lost my husband It'll be two years and this June but it wasn't a good marriage.
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: I have a whole story on how I use a narcissistic abuse, and so my heart is like you're saying it too.
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: Trauma can make you voiceless, and I'm glad you're not voiceless, but I want to help the women who feel voiceless discover transformation by finding their voice, by their identity, and then speaking, serving the person they once were.
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of that in you.
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: You're speaking the person to who you were, but you're taking the creativity.
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: You're taking that.
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: Hey, I don't care.
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I care about analytics, but you're not going to define, you're going to keep your voice is what I'm trying to say.
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: I feel like an ideal person on the podcast, because that's what it's about unleashing voices, and I think, as you talk, I think you're going to and on the podcast or live, I just really believe there's going to be maybe just you speaking that way.
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: I believe you could be unleashing voices now, whether they hear on the podcast or not, so I really want to thank you for that.
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: You're so fun to talk to.
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: So, media speaking Now I know you're a speaker.
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: Does that just flow over from your media or do you like, like Jen, had that great outline for a keynote speaker?
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: How do you translate from the video to maybe speaking?
• 13:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they feed each other.
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: Now for me and I'm going to go back a second because you said something that's going to tie into this and I want to touch on it you were talking about you were an unhealthy marriage and the voice.
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: So I do want to note, even though I had the voice inside of me, I had a lot of insecurity, major insecurity.
• 13:58
  Speaker 2: There's some posts I'm going to be doing that I haven't done yet that deal with the insecurity and even as I got older so I was into unhealthy marriages.
• 14:08
  Speaker 2: By the grace of God I ended up getting married a third time to my best friend because I had really said I can't do this again.
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: But, yeah, I saw, I can empathize with that.
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: And when you're in an unhealthy marriage, whatever that entails because there are many ways that that defined yeah, you do lose your voice in a piece because you're in a.
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: When you enter into a marriage, you're entering into a relationship where there's a degree of we're going to become one your individuals, but you're going to become one one marriage, one thing and so you're trying to figure that out.
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: And if there's not alignment or there had been a misrepresentation, there's a lot of dissonance that happens there.
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: And that leaves a permanent impact.
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's not a matter of recovering after the fact.
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: I think you're always going to be impacted by that situation in positive and negative ways.
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: So we kind of learn forward.
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: So that voice, I think, that desire that you spoke about that being able to unleash the voice that's suppressed inside of you.
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the speaking in person and the speaking in media help to drive each other forward, because I had been a teacher and because I had been doing a lot of activities where I was naturally speaking okay.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: I already became a storyteller.
• 15:20
  Speaker 2: That was you're talking about, jen, like that's all that was already in I didn't even think of it as a speaking format.
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: It's just what I did.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: Like I would start off by telling a story, stories of my childhood, stories of right now and when you become more confident on camera because you're talking to whoever right, you don't know how many people you're talking to.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, bring some of that stuff back to.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: Hey, if I could speak to an audience that I wasn't even aware of who they were, right, because you release a video.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: Then when I'm in the audience, now I'm going to take advantage of the opportunity to keep that confidence but also make those connections.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: And when you make those connections when you're in person, you carry that over to your video and your lives, because you're thinking the same situation exists.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: You're just not necessarily seeing people's eyes, but people are out there, they're watching it.
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: When you say you could be helping unleash somebody's voice, like that just gives me goosebumps because in my mind, like there is no small audience, right?
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: Like one person, one person that's gigantic, because you impact somebody in a way that allows them to feel better about themselves.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: Not only do they live better who knows who else they might help down the road but just that one life, one life, every one is incredible.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, we have a powerful opportunity with video to reach people where they are and allow them to take in the information without fear of people around them.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: That might be more than that, so I think it's a really good platform.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: And you've taken from YouTube.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: You also now have a podcast right.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so I haven't I'm not really calling it a podcast yet, though probably in theory is.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: I just had never that's cool For years this is the funny thing, right?
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: I keep saying oh, for years, for years, it really is true.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: There's all this stuff that I've been planning on doing and now I'm just like it's now Like I used to have my friend, one of my friends' parents used to always say to me like I should have a radio show, you should have a radio show, you like to ask questions and listen and you like to tell stories.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: You've got that voice.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: So I, what I really started doing was I'm like I'm just going to start going to go live with people and I'm just going to chat with them.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: I have a thing that's coming up that I'm going to be doing with the that deb hashtag right.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Like in my house joke around, I go that deb, okay, right, Hashtag that deb, Because there are like thousands of deb harrisons and so we were talking about each person is unique.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: So, even though there's all these other deb harrisons, I'm that deb and there's something that's coming with it, and I don't want to talk too much about it when I was doing the headline and everything working around with it.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: it didn't say your last name, so it's already got the that deb somewhere in it.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: Isn't that cool, I think that's really cool, it is.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: I was in radio for 15 and a half years and after I had to retire cause our family moved.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: It was devastating.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: But now someone will say do you wanna be on radio again?
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I wanna have my own show, my own podcast, my own video channel.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: So I can really relate to that.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: So let me ask you a question.
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: Someone may be listening and think I like this, deb.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, how important, deb, is investing in yourself to really hone in the creativity, to really gain the confidence and lose the imposter syndrome.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: How important is investing in yourself?
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: I'm 100% right and I think investment can be interpreted in multiple ways, all of which, at the end, have value, with a capital V associated with the money, there's a time investment, there's a money investment and often there's a price tag associated with the time, because sometimes the time means you're gonna be doing less of something that you might be getting paid for.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: So, whatever way you look at it, but from the moment you make that commitment, that decision that you're going to invest the time or money into that, you are telling yourself that you believe in you.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: For me, with my faith, I'm telling God I trust you.
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: I know that you've given me these gifts and I need to make them a priority.
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: So good, Because when we don't even if we say I'm gonna do this, but I'm gonna do it when I have spare time, Like you're not really driving yourself into it so much of my impact.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: You mentioned the mastermind that we joined.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: And I saw it at the end of 2022, I had I was taking some courses, I was still doing some client work, but I was doing some stuff because I was like I gotta start investing, Investing specific, concentrated time.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna put time aside to write.
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: It's not gonna be when I have time.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: Came across Jen's best year blueprint.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: It's the best year blueprint and was like it, like sold me on myself, right.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, like this is the person I gotta support me.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: Right, this is the person I gotta support cause she's got a gift and a message.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: No doubt.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Which is what ultimately led me to the mastermind.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, and in the mastermind you're putting in the time, putting in the money, you're putting in the effort and the energy to interact and network.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, historically I'd prefer to be on a stage than making small chat with people.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: It used to be something that was overwhelming, yeah, and now I'm making a point of that and I find that it's filling me.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: So the momentum just picks up the more that you feed into yourself and particularly cause like people will say oh, I have a hard time with doing kind things for myself because I'm a people pleaser, and I don't necessarily think that those two have to go, have to be drastic opposites, right, you can wanna be kind and help other people and include yourself into it.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: When we talk about everybody's a miracle, guess who that includes?
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: You know, yeah, that's so.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: So it's not one or the other, you can that kindness should really exude on yourself as well.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so good Cause and if you don't have compassion on yourself, then you're losing out on a mental thing you brought your faith in.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: But it was really beautiful how it's you interwovenness.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: I am a kingdom person, I am a Christian.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: My target is women entrepreneurs right now Christian women.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: But I don't feel like I'm.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm speaking to everyone, but I am.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: I understand your keywords and everything, but I like what you said and I think this is what you do so well.
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: When the camera's on, they get dead.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: That is.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: A lot of people struggle with that because they like a lot of people struggle with being authentic.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: But do you not think that the authenticity of you being you is the key to your audience, the key to your success?
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Like I have no doubt people are listening to this whole podcast.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about how we be authentic but still have to let go of the imposter syndrome and all those fears that wanna trip us up.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we gotta be comfortable.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: Failing and failing is a hard word, because I don't even think it's failing, but failing in the sense of what we think of that word.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: So if we say like, for example, I'm gonna post content online, and what do you want when you post content online?
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: You want people to read it and indicators to us of if it's being read or viewed.
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: Is the view count, the like count, the subscriber count, right.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: And so you post something and it's really important to you and you see it's not getting any traction.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: You can't take that as a okay, my voice is wrong or I'm wrong, it's okay, it's that content.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Do I think that we should learn from the content and receive feedback from people?
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I do reach out to people and say, hey, what did you think of that?
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: I ask very specific questions, not general.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: You don't ask general was that okay?
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: You guys?
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: Did you like the message, Did you like the right, really engage in it?
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: So I do think you should learn, but at the end of the day, you need to be checking in with yourself and God.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: You need to be checking in.
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: Am I being true to my core, my core message?
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: And so that's how you maintain that authenticity is, keeping the value, in that you're delivering your message clear, that your intentions were right.
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: If you were looking because you're trying to do it for the positive reasons, then you forgive yourself for whatever results you didn't achieve that you thought you were supposed to achieve.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: And then I think, leaning into the silly things, like you know, okay.
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: So, for example, we also a lot of us say and there's a lot of tools out there that can pull the, they can pull the wrong thing, yeah, and that's okay and that's fine.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying you should or shouldn't, but, for example, like traditionally speaking, we, when we advised people on public speaking, it was to kind of get rid of those phrases.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: There's a thing that I do sometimes.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Now people aren't going to be able to not see it.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Every once in a while I'll go.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: I don't even know what I'm doing.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: I make this like clicking noise with my tongue, but you get so in your head about let me not do that.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: Okay, let me not do that.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: That you are.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: You're losing what you just said, the opposite.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: So I think you've got to just let go of some of the things and practice right Doesn't mean you don't want to refine it, but if you're obsessing about not saying or not making the little clicking noise or the amount of your chair, you're less inclined to just be yourself.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: So even like external noises, like I'll call out if somebody walks in the background, the door opens and closes.
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: I know people are hearing it.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: So unless it's really disruptive, I might even go oh, that was a kid walking in.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: They didn't realize I was on a.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: So I think, like being present where you are and owning the situation, so that people know that who they're getting.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: Is you, not some version of you?
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: That's so cool.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: I want somebody to fall in love with, fall in love with the image, not fall in love with like romantically fall in love with I understand, yeah, and then when I'm interacting with people, like it'd be disconnected from the person that they thought I was.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: I want people to meet me and either be like it's even better than I thought, or to be like, yeah, that's what I expected, like I want people to meet me in person and feel that that's really hard on video, but I think, letting yourself just make those mistakes, not worrying so much yeah, it's part of it.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: I have to tell you that I'm 60 years old, which I the 60 just really hit me hard.
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: And Deb, what I struggle with and I just my, I have a therapist, a Neurocycle facilitator.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: She's actually my friend.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: It's like I struggle.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it now.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Everyone's gonna look there.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: I struggle with the circles.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: One day I was doing a video and I wasn't live and I was like I was working on a promo and I had put way I put under I make a peak here way bad, and on this side not.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: And I was like I was so freaking mad so I sent it to my friend.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: I said look at this in this terrible.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: And she says, teresa, and this is good word for me, it's a good word for anyone who has something they they maybe don't like about their parents.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: She's just treat.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: So they're not looking at you, they're looking at the wisdom you can help them with.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: I said, okay, that's real fine, but I'm not gonna air that video.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, you know what I did?
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: I put it in the script and I covered up with video.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: So I have to come candidly.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: And now granted, I love Instagram, I think got this one basic filter that will take that away.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: It doesn't look.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: Oh, I've got it and, like I said, I've got allergies going on right now.
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: My nose is red and I'm like you know what I'm turning the ring light on.
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: Let them see me in all my allergy position these lights.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna use my camera, because the mic, the video on them, my, my Mac is terrible.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: I just brings out.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: It's just being vain.
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, you were gonna say something.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: No, I just that was ending that thought.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: I was gonna ask you a question because it's interesting.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Tell me how do you feel now, after having just said that out loud, knowing people are gonna watch it?
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Do you feel better or worse that you just own?
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: I have said it a few times that I'm okay with it.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, believe me, I've got therapy on it.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: And I think, like when we say it to the public, like when we pull that out, it actually makes us feel less self-conscious, because it's I am aware of this, and if you're gonna make fun of it, which people will?
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: I've had people post some awful, some even compliments, but that I was like that needs to be hidden.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: You get all kinds of videos but like you put yourself out there.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I Don't, I'm not ruled by that, but I say I appreciate the being a like you don't know why you do that.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: I do put a little makeup on, but some days some lighting is.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: Today is one of those days.
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean my.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Like I said my.
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: You on the podcast can just imagine this that's all go to YouTube or dev YouTube, and you'll be able to see oh, they're listening right.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: No.
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: I mean I've got one, two, three, four.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: I have five on that are listening live.
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: We got a little few people on, so it doesn't see I don't even look over there because I don't either.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: I have no idea, and it's.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: It's doing.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: To have you, you, as content is like a dream.
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: We're just talking, right that we know the way I like to look at it.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: It's like you and I don't know if you drink coffee, but you and I are having a cup of coffee, talking and they just get the, they get the way of listening and that's the way I do my podcast.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: I'm like I don't have a lot of questions, I Kind of wing it, but I don't wing it because the Holy Spirit, I know you mean, but yeah, no absolutely, but you're ready to be flexible with the way the conversation and I'm sure 15 years, and radio has helped that too.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: But I Just want to dig deeper onto some of these things out and the one thing I want to do is I imagine a listener who has this creativity, but they don't know how to take it to the next level.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Their next level may be putting it on Facebook.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Their next level may be Putting it in a book.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: And let me tell you, imperfect action is better than no action.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: If I didn't take imperfect actions, I wouldn't have three devotionals on YouTube, on Amazon they'd be still my computer.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: So, with that thought in mind, imperfect action is better than no action.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: But someone's listening, deb, and they need, like coach Deb, to encourage them to get that material when some other can see it.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: There's two levels to it.
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: First is I think, because you're talking about uncovering their creativity.
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Right, because you, there's certain people you'll talk to and they'll say oh, I'm not a creative person and I think everybody's creative.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: It's like the theory of multiple intelligences, which isn't a theory, it's a reality.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: Different people have different versions of excellence Wow, and everybody has excellence everybody.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: There's no person that's lacking in that.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: So Finding your place, of creativity.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: So, for example, there's creativity in an engineer figuring out what is the best way that we're gonna do this.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: It's gonna make it very good together.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: So you don't normally think of an engineer is creative.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: You think of the more as being very Mathematical and scientific and that's not creative.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: But creativity runs the gamut.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: So tap into the acknowledgement right now, the statement I am a creative period everybody.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: I am creative, I need to find it Creative.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: You feed creativity with curiosity, and what does that mean?
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: It means look at the world around you and the people you interact with and Understanding that you can learn from everything, including yourself.
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: So the thoughts that you pop in, that pop into your head, that were like that was a weird Thought.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's think about that weird thought.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Sometimes those weird thoughts are a creativity popping up into us.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: So, like when you think a random thing what would it be like if that tree were purple?
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, what would it be like if that tree were purple?
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Now I do want to add that there are some thoughts that pop into our head, negative messages and stuff that we want to pay attention to, to address.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: But I don't.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: You don't need to dwell and go down the writing, the story of the worst-case scenarios, but some of those things that come into our mind, be curious about them, like where is that coming from?
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: What can I learn from myself?
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: So One is I am creative.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: Own it to is be curious about it.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: So what are you gonna discover about yourself in the world around you?
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: And once you've done that and you've acknowledged that you're creative, you've acknowledged that you're learning and you're growing, so you're feeding that creativity, then it's keeping in mind that every single person on this earth, every single person, is an incredible miracle and there's nobody better than or less than anybody else.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, and so, with that in mind, you have got Information and ideas that other people will either just enjoy or benefit from, right, yeah, or you want to look at it whether it entertains, which is definitely a form of benefit anyway, but it can benefit, so why would you not right?
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: So, instead of asking the why should I, why would you not Wow?
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: your creative genius, you know how to learn and you've got an audience out there.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: That's ready.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Obviously, there's a whole bunch of core values that come into place with making sure your messaging is aligned with what your values are and that you're thinking about those things and understanding who you're speaking to.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: You're not necessarily going to run a class for toddlers on astrodynamics, but you might there.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Maybe there's an audience for that.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: I think some people are writing notes right now.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: If you're not, rewind and get that, that's a framework that you can follow.
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: I love it.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: I love when it's ultimately said this is what you're saying.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: I love this phrase, I remind myself often.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: It's not about me.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: Like, for example, we get 30 seconds to share what we do.
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: In the last mastermind I didn't clear my throat.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: I almost wanted to say to Jen and Chris could I do that over and clear my throat?
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Or like my eyes?
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: It's not about me, but that's what I hear you saying.
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: It's about the people that maybe God's called you to serve.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: It's about your voice expressing itself in the way that God aligned.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: I think everyone in the very DNA has a voice, has a message, has something that's going to help someone.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: That's why I tell you what.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm so passionate about podcasts, because I think a lot of people would want to do a podcast and that's why my heart went into podcasting, made easy with the AI Dev and I were talking before and how easy it is.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Back in the day it was like my head was down in an audio workstation.
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: I'm not a sound engineer, but anyway I think it's.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: I remember when I started my podcast five years ago and I remember thinking, oh, podcasting is peaked out and it hasn't the beauty about podcasts.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: Like someone listening to this.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Maybe you're going down your car with Dev and I are in the car with you.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: It's so intimate.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: It really is.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: It really is.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: That's why I'm glad that you're converting yours more over to a podcast, because, dev, you've got a gift.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: You've got so many gifts and your voice needs to be continued to hear.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Thank you, I encourage you, I challenge you.
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: I believe God has set apart a time for the Dev effect to take effect.
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: I have the kindness I just believe that you've been set apart for such a time as this.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: You bring joy, you bring kindness, you bring in your faith and I'm afraid to talk about who your source is and you're so fricking real.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: You're as authentic as they get.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: We need more Dev effects.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: So, thank you.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: I feel so honored to have you, and so let's talk.
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: Let the people connect with you.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Where on Facebook can they?
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: find you.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: So I am at DHarrison PVD on Facebook and I am at DHarrison PVD on Instagram.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: What's the PVD?
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: Is it P, as in PVD?
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: Yes, so cool.
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: If you want to hear the story, I do want to hear that story.
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: All right, I'll tell you this real quick, Please no quickness.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: I was always.
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: I always loved photography and so I used to do photography for fun.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: And then people started asking me to do their events and their like portraits of their family.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: So I had a small little photography videography business called DHarrison Photo Video and Design.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Oh nice, and so I had it for the longest time and then it just it.
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: I got too busy to be able to sustain it, but I always kept the URL and when I went to do when I decided I wanted to get my website up and running again for my voice purposes because I've got another one for my poetry book that's going to be connected.
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: But I I was toying with different things, and DebHarrisoncom is owned by a pickleball coach who I hope to do an interview with.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Actually, oh, that's too cool.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: I'm going to be doing a series of interviews called DebHarrison meets DebHarrison.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: I don't want to talk too much about it, but it's going to be a good thing.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: That's so good.
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: And so I played around with some different things and realized that, like, that website had meaning to me, because it was something that I had really been passionate about.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: So now the P stands for purpose, the V stands for vision and the D stands for drive, but I decided I'm going to keep it rather than trying to change and come up with some different URL.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: But makes it easier because I was trying to find you and there are a lot of DebHarrisons.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: Do you know?
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: There's one, Theresa Croft, and she's an actress and I remember I went to.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: This is random, I went to Facebook, YouTube, not YouTube.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: I went to Google a while ago because I used to just dominate and I'm like, oh, what's with she's done, she's an actress.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: So a lot of times I have to use my middle initial and it's like son of a gun man and so anyway, that's just yeah.
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: I actually joked.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: I started some videos and then I was like I want to go off and do this interview thing.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: So I'm trying to tee that all up and I'm reaching out to people.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: I've got some stuff I'm building on the back end, I think that's going to be fun.
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: It'll be quirky.
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: But like I made a video joking around the one day, she is fantastic.
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: The main DebHarrison that owns most of Google and that has DebHarrisoncom, she comes up.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: I love that.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: She's a pickleball coach, I love that, and so her main website is.
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: I'm giving her shouts out here, but her main site is Picklepong, picklepong, deb, I think.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: But she has DebHarrisoncom re-roots to that.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: And so I was like joking around with my husband.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: I had a pickleball racket and was like I'm coming for you, debharrison.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: I am, I play, but I am not very good.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: She would wipe me off the court in half a second, but I think it would be good for a laugh.
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: It would be good for a laugh.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Hey, just to make you feel better about Facebook lives back in the day.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Let's see, I would do three a week and just thousands, and people would be commenting.
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: Now it's just a vast wasteland.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: If you get three views, it's just like whoa.
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: But what Facebook wants us to do is pay ads for that video.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: But doing a live video, I don't even look.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh okay.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is fun too, because it forces you to not be thinking about oh, this is going to be edited.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: I'm just speaking freely, and then, after the fact I try to not lately, even when I'm doing quick little snippets for myself, I really try to get it in a couple takes, unless I really mess up.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: I'm like who cares if you flub your words, joke around about it because you're talking about authenticity and after a while, when you say the same thing 15 or 20 times, it like loses the authenticity.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: DebHarrisontv.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's on Instagram, Facebook and YouTube.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: I would love it if people check out YouTube.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Instagram is yeah.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Instagram is at DeHarrisontv as well.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: Okay, which do you prefer?
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: Probably the YouTube is where you're known the most right, yeah, it's hard to say.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: I'm cool with people going everywhere.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: I'm really.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: I was at 23 on December 20th and I am at 24,000 on YouTube as of this morning.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: That is phenomenal.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: Thank you for meeting the way.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: I applaud.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: That's exciting.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: You are doing your work behind the scenes, so I'm going to be watching you and learning from you, because I really want my YouTube to go up a little higher.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: I want it to be a focus, and I normally don't do this, but we are live on YouTube right now.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: So, deb, thank you and I can tell you if you're listening live.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: Hey, I'm putting Deb to the head of the line.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: You can listen to the podcast Monday and be able to listen to it again, and please bring a notebook because, my goodness, the girl just dished out the value.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: I appreciate you, deb.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: Hey, are you going to be March 4th in Florida?
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: That's the plan.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: That's the plan.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: I look forward to doing a DAP and saying, man, you're awesome.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: All right, Thank you.
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: Take care everybody.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you having me on, Teresa.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: This was delightful and thank you for listening.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: Please rate this podcastcom forward.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Slash Teresa Croft.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Let people know how awesome this was Not for a pet on the back, but for some.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: This podcast can grow to more viewers.
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: We appreciate you and we'll talk to you in the next episode.
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to Unleashing Kingdom Voices.