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State of the Program 2022 · Boundary Corner Podcast

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  And welcome back to the boundary Corner podcast, along with my
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  It's dr. Lord, Jeremy counts.
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  Yeah, what's up guys? What?
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  Sup buddy, how you doing tonight?
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  Wallace, how you doing fucking great?
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  If that goddamn, we get to talk about that with that.
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  We thought this was going to be a nice little little fun segue
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  into the football stuff but you know life throws us some curves,
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  right? I was in a good mood.
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  I was like, yeah, have a good go in.
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  Everything's gonna be alright. Fuck not good.
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  We will talk about that in a few minutes.
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  I'll Matt, Neal love are joining us but we got one more man in
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  the Green Room. Let's get this man in the king
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  of the Hokie spaces. The Space, Ace the space 8.
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  Bring him home, bring him home, bring him off, come on and with
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  us go. And where's that apple pie?
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  Hi, boys, before we start anything.
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  Cheers, here's up, clink easier. Click Keys Clank.
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  Keys clink, he's good. I had already win.
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  We are about to start a tradition.
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  Unlike any other, any other, it is the state of the program.
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  Boundary Corner podcast Style. With Jeremy with Tally.
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  We're going to get into it but before we get into it.
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  Y'all gentlemen, how's everybody doing?
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  Y'all been doing good lately. Doing good?
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  Doing good man. Working holiday time.
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  Everybody wanting to spend money.
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  I'm trying to let him skip you with me.
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  Now, what I say it's the holiday season, like it's a lot of
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  traveling and what you had to Rally around.
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  Right. You got some uh yeah I gotta get
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  her all weekend. I went back home to.
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  Hey Sasha last weekend for my parents and now I got to go to
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  Raleigh this weekend and we're Christmas is on a goddamn
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  fucking weekend. I hardly even get X off.
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  This is just like a lot of extended trips for me at this
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  point. My back to work nothing.
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  I don't like this. Put it on a Tuesday.
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  Put it on a few years from that Christmas is on Wednesday, The
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  Sweet Spot. Hey, here's your here's the
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  upside. New Year's Eve is on a Saturday
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  and we know the main street pharmacy is closed on Sundays.
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  Yeah, so there's your upsets you.
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  I have no excuse to close. Like I have the same Pace
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  offense. I normally do.
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  I do he won't always do. No different to me to have you
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  all back on the show, as always. And before we get into football,
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  which we are and we got a lot to unload with national Signing Day
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  the season and all that we were going to start with some quick
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  basketball takes because before tonight, the team was Ten and
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  one. The team was right.
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  The team was rolling destroyed Grambling State had some big
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  wins. And I think I still feel overall
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  good about the team, but they went up to Boston College in the
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  County Center where Mi kyung feel.
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  I don't think it's Mike young. I've no disrespect.
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  I think James Johnson, steals, Mike, young gets into Mi kyung's
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  body when he goes up to be. See because we cannot fucking
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  win there. It's all about marriage, it's
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  awful and they weren't ten-in-one, no Revenue, more
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  11:1, excuse me, Lebanon one. Now, lemon 211 and torching it,
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  but we're looking through it overall, it's been a good
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  season. We don't don't shit where not if
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  this had been last year and we had to take on this, so it was
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  not good at all lemon to some good wins a man in the right
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  direction. Rodney rice has been cleared to
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  play but he for some reason won't play which only anybody
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  figure that out. It sounds like they're just
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  trying to hold him off to the new year.
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  But yeah, let that man, get healthy.
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  I will The thought we need him gets goddamn fucking Boston
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  College. You wouldn't, you wouldn't think
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  a know where that one bench Point.
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  Good. Here's what I want to ask.
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  I looked at the stat line tonight and just overall, Darius
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  Maddox is starting. He's 415 tonight.
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  He's shooting roughly under 10% of what the team is shooting
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  everywhere. He continued start and I know
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  he's good on defenseman, he's an athletic kid.
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  But last season, it felt like we let him do this, and we weren't
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  winning, can they continue to do this?
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  I mean, what if they shall do ya'll say listen, you got to
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  come off the bench or you got to lower the volume, it's hard to
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  say because we don't, you know, you don't see the work that they
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  put in every day and the rotations and things like that,
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  but it's can't. You gotta, you gotta change
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  something up. He's not shooting well right
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  now, so you gotta find a way to get him out.
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  On cause you're about to get into the heart of your schedule
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  and you definitely want to be doing better moving into the new
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  year and you know, getting close to the tournament time.
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  So I mean what he 4:15 and go get it.
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  Yeah. Girl like Russell Westbrook, you
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  know, he's got the shot. That's the bad thing that I
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  that's probably why they keep riding him on because you know
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  the shot is there, right? But right now we just saying
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  fallen and even with volume tonight, I mean that's that's a
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  lot of volume tonight, that's not just, you know, shooting
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  bad. With a shot that shooting bad
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  with double that almost. I think he might have had the
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  most shots. Huh.
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  Go ahead Jeremy. He's in a slump and he was in
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  the swamp last year. I mean, if you remember Hunter
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  went through a slump to and he got out of it like there's just
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  Ebbs and flows to some of this and I trust Mi kyung more than
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  any of us true but absolutely. You know what?
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  The first two or three shots. He's not pulling the trigger
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  anymore. Yeah, you just we all need it
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  really bad. He knows he's missing his like
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  this, not my night, I need to move the ball.
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  If he's had, he's gonna keep it rolling.
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  If he's not he's gonna facilitate Darius.
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  Just keeps you just keep shooting.
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  We saw him a couple games back then.
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  No kind of put us over the top. So you know it's kind of you
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  take you take the good with the bad but when it's that bad it's
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  and you taking that many shots just it definitely hurts the
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  team. And you know when everybody else
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  is playing solo energy tonight, you know, you can't have a guy
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  that stopping the ball and taking that many shots that
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  aren't falling in True. I agree an MBA silly.
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  I mean he had a good had a few good shots but I mean he wasn't
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  hot either. I mean that no one was really
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  hot. Must had a few good moves, the
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  do look missing a long way. It is sloppy and flat.
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  That's all that was. Well the funny part is we talked
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  about that for game stretch. Where's what?
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  Minnesota Carolina Dane, Oklahoma state will.
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  Like, we can just get through that 2, & 2, 3, & 1.
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  We went for know, and then we do this.
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  Frustrated, by the way, it's not a cakewalk.
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  I mean, weights coming off that win vs Duke last night.
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  Right? Before our eyes deceive me.
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  They beat Duke last night. So we got them right.
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  Got to go on the road against them.
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  So, you know, they're going to be feeling themselves, hopefully
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  too much. Hopefully we can take care of
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  them but I think only they came looking for some Now, they got a
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  little little bit of gas, so we'll see what happens.
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  We'll see. We got, they get the boys, get a
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  10-day break, wake will be a little bit better of an
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  atmosphere, but hopefully Rodney rice please at game.
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  Hopefully, it's our New Year's Eve gift.
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  Other than, you know, getting really drunk and feeling really
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  good for that night. All right?
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  So let's, let's take a pause before we get into the football.
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  What's everybody drinking? My, let's do a roll call.
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  Apple pie moonshine. Jeremy got Jameson.
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  Get Ben ipas pacing Curtis Curt, let you go.
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  Curtis is got the Kirkland 12 year old scotch Boys.
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  We roll a little little Evan, White Label the night.
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  It's going down, smooth, It's Going Down.
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  Smooth is always good stuff goes.
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  So there's our roles are never black people know you don't ever
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  drink. Nothing that's got two white
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  name's Evan Williams. We've actually got some roll
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  calls. Y'all from the chat here?
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  Put that up there, everybody, Matt Spring, by the way, we
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  would want, it's almost it's almost
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  Facebook. Replies and we will see what
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  you're drinking was this. But let's jump over to football
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  and this is kind of going to be a season retrospective, but
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  let's go here before we before we jump into what happened this
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  season, I'll start with Jeremy here.
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  What was your preseason record expectations?
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  Where were you thinking? This team was going to go you
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  live in Blacksburg, you probably hear more chatter than we do but
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  what did you feel going into season?
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  I I mean I was hopefully we're going to get six or seven wins.
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  I mean that the idea of us not going to a bowl game is foreign
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  to me. So I thought that we were going
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  to come in, you know, it at least, you know, get to a ball
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  game. That that was just my general
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  feeling, you know, but we also didn't have any kind of idea
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  about what we're about to see. So, All right.
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  Tally, what was your preseason? Expectations.
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  So I put a tweet out before the season just like what a funny
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  picture and said if he it probably gets us to a bowl game.
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  Then he needs to have a statue made.
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  I seen it. I mean, wasn't trying to be -
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  just looking at had no expectations.
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  Yeah, you know you said hey I'm going to watch it and, you know,
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  I want to win but I just want to see some improvement because
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  they've been You have a new head coach, new offensive
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  coordinator, do the defensive coordinator, new all positions,
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  just about all, we knew so it was just too much unexpected.
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  I mean, too much unknown for me to be like I know we're going to
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  go ahead and win game. So I thought maybe five wins is
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  what about thought we would get. But of course, you always like
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  you said, you're always hoping that I know we don't make a bowl
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  game because it's like so unexpected for us not to I'm
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  going to go ahead. We own hours here on the
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  boundary Corner podcast. I wouldn't stupid and said, nine
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  and three. Y'all don't throw things and so
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  we would, but we threw it in there.
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  So we said I said 93, I knew he had some talent.
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  I thought the usually you get to spark with the new coaching
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  staff, but we did have a caveat And I'm going to go ahead and
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  say it was our caveat was as we said five and seven.
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  And that was saying if things don't click right, well
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  obviously things didn't click right.
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  Some players got hurt that could not get hurt.
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  And the biggest one was Malachi, Malachi getting hurt.
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  The beginning of the season was an absolute just it crippled the
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  offense, which was already in a bad position.
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  It hurt to start. Then obviously it hurt to climb
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  kind of, you know, as we wrapped up things, so it was kind of
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  hurting on the front end and the back end.
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  I mean, we said five wins was probably kind of the door
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  borderline floor of this team and I think if you have a
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  healthy Squad you probably get five.
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  Maybe, I don't know. But we played in what three or
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  four close games, small wire place all the one lost them all.
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  But one I mean the one you got to finish better and some of
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  that's on the coaching. Absolutely.
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  But we switch schemes in the middle of the schedule.
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  We did I mean that's one of the things we're going to talk about
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  I think as we get kind of further into this thing is that
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  you know what what are we looking like going into next
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  year? And I mean I've got to I've got
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  a bunch of thoughts on that front, so I got tons, we'll hit
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  down pretty heavy. But yeah, I mean, we're
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  switching schemes with through and it's so hard.
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  It's so hard. To change course in the middle
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  of a season like that because number one, you already had a
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  new scheme that you recommend in the start the year players
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  weren't even fully acclimated to that.
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  And all of a sudden you're switching it up, you're changing
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  things and I give them a some kudos for not going full bore
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  into a completely different direction.
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  It was more like tweaks and modifications versus a full-bore
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  swap their but at the same time, It's a struggle to do that much
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  in the middle of the Season. Normally you like to add two or
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  three plays to your playbook a week, it's kind of you progress
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  through this through the schedule, right, whether it's
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  specific to that team or whether it's just you adding to the
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  Playbook to get more Dynamic and having to make some wholesale
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  changes in the middle of the year, is a pretty big ass for a
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  team. But that's just the, in some way
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  it was a miscalculation to start the year that we thought.
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  We could lean on a power running game, work play action and think
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  that that was going to be enough to get some wins in the ACC.
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  Hmm. It's true.
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  It's true but at least here's the one thing you can already
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  say about this coaching staff and it did not take long as
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  they're not afraid to quickly make the adjustments.
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  They're not afraid to say this bull shit ain't working.
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  We have to try something different.
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  And I think, yes, for us following this program as close
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  as we do the prior coaching staff, I would literally die on
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  a hill. Like, like this is not working.
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  We do what we do. I'm just tell me how and ring
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  the bell. Every time someone says he gets
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  it. Yes.
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  So for this season, what was some of the good that you saw?
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  And I mean 3 and 8 season? That's I'm asking a lot of you
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  to lead off for many the main thing I guess is because when
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  you look at every game I made, it was easy for these kids to
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  quit is either for the coaching staff to quit.
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  But watching every game, I never seen quit.
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  It, you know I guess that's the good that you seen.
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  You seem that the kids didn't quit on the coaching staff
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  coaching staff, really didn't quit on the kids because you
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  gotta think we did win three games.
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  I think we would have won four if we had to play UVA data for
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  win season, but I mean, we lost a Carolina State on the road.
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  By one point, we lost a Georgia Tech at home by one point, we
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  lost a Miami at home by six points.
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  I mean, it was plenty of games that could have been a little
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  different than they were had. We had a couple of players.
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  So, again, I mean, I just think that the fight was there.
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  So I think that was good for the season.
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  About you. Jeremy.
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  What you got? I mean, I had several points.
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  I feel like we were coming together a whole lot better on
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  offense. For the end.
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  We switch it up in the middle and it seemed to start working
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  toward the end of the season. I thought that was pretty good.
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  Lane was always rocking no matter what we had everyone
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  coming out everyone supporting that can only go on for so long
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  that we have a very loyal fan base.
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  We do you know I think we got a good three years of that if it's
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  time fix it three years ago To see some fall off, but I believe
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  in our fan base and I believe in our team, I'm felt like the
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  running back. Play started coming together a
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  little bit more. We saw some flashes.
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  I mean, Keshawn King looks so good, in some games and then of
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  course, you'd have like a fumbles and shit.
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  But I mean, there were some flashes and one of my biggest
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  things was the defense. It wasn't like a leader anything
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  but it kept us in ball games like if we would have had a
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  decent offense like In some of those games are headed just
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  click a little more like it did toward the end of the season.
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  We would have had more wins. Yeah.
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  And we talked about it all year the defense kept us in games at
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  least for three quarters. Yeah pretty much the whole
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  fucking year. Yeah.
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  Which I mean that's that's as much as you can ask especially
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  how often the offense was given the ball back to the defense.
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  So I think that was ever mark See that the defense can hold up
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  against even some of the better competition.
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  The ACC. I know we didn't play Clemson,
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  but we played kind of with two of the best for in the ACC.
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  If we're being honest, right and held up pretty well against all
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  of them but UNC on defense. And I still look like you and
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  see and say that that was just a bad matchup because we probably
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  had our worst cornerback situation in that game having
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  one out and and not having delaying really playing
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  significant snaps at that point. So for Dre banging to have game
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  like that again. There he is.
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  All right. All his talents gone, all his
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  talents gone. I don't care how much money they
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  throw at him. He's got worse.
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  The young players y'all. The point.
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  Y'all made a great seeing the young players seeing, man,
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  sword. The lane immediately freshman
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  All-American, right. 4247 immediately, kalai Lawson.
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  I think he's figured out will, and I sit there and I see
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  glimpses of treatment treatment, remain analyzed and will
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  linebacker. Jason, Keller a couple times,
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  you know, some of the young'uns McRae and Nelson, getting good
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  play. They're not there yet, but you
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  saw them making good plays. He's guys like strowman and to
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  go along with the coaching staff.
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  Not quittin. My other.
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  Good is. When they realized it wasn't
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  working, they were like, okay, it's not working.
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  We need to change this. We need to change his shit.
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  We're not getting it done and to do that in the middle of a
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  season, it takes balls, it takes balls from a head coach to say.
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  It ain't working with changing it.
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  But then what about this? You talked about Keshawn King
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  fumbling. How quick would he have been on
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  the pine in previous years? We would have seen him back.
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  Yes, are right. You saw a distaff he fumbled
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  couple, couple series later. There he is again, and in some
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  of those series, he would make a big play.
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  So it's like, it's that combination of the youth, along
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  with the coaching staff, even though they got schooled a
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  couple times, being willing to change.
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  The course when it ain't working.
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  Yeah, I'm at meet you can say that one of the bad is that, you
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  know, there were obvious points in the season where you saw that
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  this staff was green, right? But I think that, I think the
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  thing that you can see the positive you can take away that
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  is that this green staff, understood, their green and
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  said. All right, we can't just stick
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  with what we think should work that we got to, we got to tweak
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  this and see what will actually work in practice.
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  Not just on paper about y'all. What about y'all?
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  What bad Dad. I mean I guess to go along like
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  just to kind of the yin to the Yang of the good that I
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  discussed was you know never quitting and being in those
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  close games but a bad as losing the close games.
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  Yeah, you know for a football team is easy to give up whenever
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  you lose a game that you're supposed to win, you up by six
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  and you end up losing by one or whatever the case may be.
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  We had a couple of those games that we did that in that, we
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  kind of formed Not fumbled the ball but form of the game.
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  So I guess the bad to me would be losing those close games, but
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  that's part of being young, you know, it's part of being green
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  as we talked about. It was good.
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  It was good to see growth, though, because at the end of
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  the, the end of the year, people and say, is Liberty, do matters,
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  fucking Georgia Tech we lost, but you go to Liberty and pretty
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  hostile environment for us and you win this game.
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  So that that that could have easily been will to win.
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  Team pack it up, it's over but the they never quit and we won
• 23:39
  that one. But the bad to me will be losing
• 23:41
  the close games this year and it fucking sucks to lose.
• 23:43
  Lose. Yeah.
• 23:44
  Game. When you think you going to
• 23:47
  weird Rip Your Heart Right Out? What about you?
• 23:50
  Jim. Well, first off, I want to shout
• 23:53
  out. I got over that Brian Cobbs
• 23:55
  motherfuckers drinking Everclear right now.
• 23:57
  Oh my God, put that back up. So the first half and we have a
• 24:15
  lot of Talent on the offensive one.
• 24:19
  I don't know if you all have ever stood next to Silas but
• 24:23
  he's the biggest motherfucker I've ever stood next to him.
• 24:26
  My entire life. You don't dream.
• 24:29
  I got to meet you up at the spring game.
• 24:30
  He's a big motherfucker. Yes, we got some town on there
• 24:34
  and we've got some size and it's like we couldn't figure out how
• 24:38
  to do with that. Understand we got a new oh, I'm
• 24:40
  coaching these. You know, a really really good
• 24:42
  one. We're trying to figure Sure that
• 24:44
  out and that was a huge weakness in our offense.
• 24:47
  Yeah, you can talk about like your fucking quarterback needs
• 24:51
  to hit this or hit that or you're running back seem to do
• 24:53
  this and that it all starts with offensive line.
• 24:56
  If you don't have a line, you don't have a fucking offense,
• 24:59
  that's it. Yep.
• 25:00
  And my entire thing is our entire offense would do so much.
• 25:04
  Better opposition groups would do better with our offensive
• 25:07
  line playing better and I don't know if it's exactly our
• 25:11
  players, just not connecting with the scheme.
• 25:14
  Scheme, not taking into account our players strength, but that
• 25:16
  was a huge weakness for us. Also our secondary.
• 25:23
  This was actually, there was an issue with a lot of people were
• 25:26
  complaining. We weren't bringing our Rush
• 25:29
  enough like we weren't bringing a lot of five man rushes.
• 25:33
  We weren't bringing all that and pry actually talk to Bud about
• 25:37
  it and he explained it, but exactly what he was doing.
• 25:41
  It's because of the numbers weren't lining up with.
• 25:43
  Ringing that Rush. And it actually put our
• 25:48
  defensive backs in a better position to intercept the ball
• 25:51
  and make plays whenever we didn't bring that kind of rushed
• 25:54
  because we had some help in the back.
• 25:56
  We're putting them in that position, try to do that and it
• 25:58
  still wasn't happening. That was a huge problem for us
• 26:01
  is we weren't getting tired of those and then the other point
• 26:06
  was we were having turnovers. We were losing the ball left and
• 26:12
  right on key drops. You know, that loss is the Miami
• 26:15
  game. And a player will be playing out
• 26:17
  of their minds and then all of a sudden phone and then it's like,
• 26:20
  fuck everybody, entire momentum is gone.
• 26:23
  So those were the three biggest things for me, because we lost
• 26:27
  the turnover battle on both sides of the ball and our
• 26:30
  offensive line just wasn't clicking for whatever reason.
• 26:34
  So the bad for me is a guy that like me that looks at tape every
• 26:39
  week, a guy that watches every game as detailed as he can
• 26:44
  seeing. How fucking close, we are to
• 26:49
  being a decent team because one guy doesn't do one assignment.
• 26:54
  Or if we said that under group, if you're a half second, you
• 27:00
  know, sooner with the block or if you're a half second better,
• 27:04
  you know, getting off this or getting off that like, we are so
• 27:07
  close to being at least a six or seven win team that it tears.
• 27:14
  My heart out man. Because every time I look at the
• 27:16
  tape, I'm like there are plays all over this tape where we can
• 27:22
  be a six or seven or eight win team and we're not it tears.
• 27:26
  My heart out that we have to say that Yeah here we go.
• 27:38
  Basically going from having an ol philosophy not messing with
• 27:41
  the talent to a scheme that doesn't match with herself
• 27:43
  philosophy, necessary switch, but still risky?
• 27:46
  It's true. My bad.
• 27:48
  I'm going to go kind of with Kalyan.
• 27:49
  This, my bad was there were times in the fourth quarter of
• 27:52
  these close games where they weren't quitting, but that one
• 27:57
  bad thing would happen and You would just see like the off.
• 28:01
  Fuck. Yeah.
• 28:02
  They would start thinking again they would start thinking again
• 28:06
  and those were the frustrating Parts like especially the oh my
• 28:10
  god. Well I mean I can throw all of
• 28:13
  these are babies who only y'all in the comments are fucking
• 28:17
  Crush any right now. I appreciate y'all for real man
• 28:21
  yells. Fucking God we got we got
• 28:25
  enough. Yeah, Hitler bar up real quick
• 28:31
  because this one was true in decision.
• 28:33
  Making is one thing. He made some going to get to
• 28:35
  that when we say ugly, but it was like you just need a nice
• 28:46
  little touch pass. It don't get me wrong.
• 28:48
  I think Grant played his heart out but there's certain times a
• 28:51
  little Crossing route. You'd see him like fastball
• 28:53
  fastball and it's like know that needs to be a change of point or
• 28:57
  no laser ball behind them. So there but it was just that
• 29:01
  fourth quarter for me. That's my truth, bad bad.
• 29:04
  It's like you're right there. Thank pit, driving that ball.
• 29:08
  We can go take the lead. Perfect play.
• 29:11
  And then we fumble. And just everybody just does
• 29:13
  like this like, oh my God, why did that happen?
• 29:16
  And Christ said it over and over, you have to learn to win.
• 29:20
  We have to learn when waiting, and I won't let them kind of.
• 29:24
  Go shovel this back to good. Let that fourth quarter, get
• 29:26
  away from us. Yeah, but same thing.
• 29:29
  But think about this, go to the Liberty game.
• 29:32
  That was great. That was the best fourth-quarter
• 29:34
  we played. Well, he's a goddamn front
• 29:51
  about the Liberty game. That was the best.
• 29:53
  Fourth-quarter we played all year.
• 29:55
  We forced turnovers when we got the ball, we win scored a
• 29:58
  touchdown. Down when we got the ball, we
• 30:00
  satin round out the clot. The best for.
• 30:03
  So we deal with those heartbreaks that crushing
• 30:06
  defeats the freaking, we can't win.
• 30:08
  And finally that last game we saw a like click and you saw
• 30:13
  them when they forced those turnovers and that shit happen.
• 30:16
  It's like the eyes were like, this is what it's like, this is
• 30:19
  how we win. I wish we could have played UVA
• 30:22
  because the tallies point, I think we in this season and four
• 30:25
  and eight and going in with momentum, just so everyone
• 30:29
  knows. The wisdom is coming from the
• 30:33
  alcohol of met Neil. Let's go.
• 30:39
  Now, I'm going to let Jeremy start this one off.
• 30:41
  Jeremy, what's the ugly? I don't know.
• 30:43
  How do we trigger the UNC fans? I need to.
• 30:46
  I need to hear this. Short rail throwing up when you
• 30:50
  can it's happening Jeremy. Go ahead.
• 30:54
  I will let you go ahead. Well we fitted it to Jeremy on
• 30:57
  this one. John pitch.
• 30:58
  Sorry. Sorry Jeremy you go ahead now,
• 31:01
  not a lie. You go ahead I guess, man.
• 31:04
  Like when we talked about the ugly, you know, you can always
• 31:08
  say what an offense sucked on the quarterback.
• 31:11
  Suck, whatever you want to say when you're just in the moment.
• 31:14
  But when you dig into it as like offense was just Two or three
• 31:19
  plays away from learning how to win.
• 31:22
  And what do we do? We fucking jump offsides.
• 31:25
  We go from a third and seven thirty and eight to a third and
• 31:30
  12. How many times was office line,
• 31:32
  jumping off sides. How many times did we commit
• 31:35
  stupid penalties that shot herself in the foot insights
• 31:38
  that we jumped offsides like 10 times.
• 31:40
  It was Watch the games is like, only
• 32:19
  thing I can say about the coaches was like, get them out,
• 32:24
  make him sit down, I don't know. But as far as jumping out sides,
• 32:28
  like that, ain't having to do with the coach in that
• 32:30
  situation. You're jumping off sides because
• 32:34
  you may not know what you're doing or should maybe so,
• 32:54
  The lack of discipline on the offense for the most part, like
• 32:58
  the penalties killed us way too many times you know or even like
• 33:03
  Curtis said we're going down and get ready to try to make it a
• 33:08
  game and that one play. We miss fumble, the ball.
• 33:11
  We drop a pass. We throw a pass to supposed to
• 33:16
  be changeup. For fastball misses we would
• 33:20
  have been a first down there with that we punting the ball so
• 33:23
  things like that was what was ugly to me to watch.
• 33:26
  Jeremy Jeremy what you got. Well, I'd like to start off with
• 33:30
  the way our entire offense. Started off this year again.
• 33:33
  So do you. It's like we never came out of
• 33:35
  that fucking elevator. I'm not one to criticize
• 33:39
  play-calling especially on the offensive.
• 33:42
  I think offensive coordinators a lot of time.
• 33:44
  Get way too much shit. Oh, yeah, for sure.
• 33:47
  We did not figure out how to get our fucking offense to match,
• 33:50
  especially the first half of the year.
• 33:52
  It was awful. It's like tally, talking about,
• 33:54
  like jumping off, signs all the time.
• 33:56
  What the fuck? Are we jumping off sighs?
• 33:58
  That's Your simple thing to fucking I found myself with like
• 34:02
  the Bland ass, like up the middle up the middl maybe we'll
• 34:05
  do a plan fucking bullshit like on, after myself wishing for a
• 34:09
  Jet Sweep and you can quote me on that Jesus.
• 34:12
  Why it was James Genius. Like, I also understand what
• 34:20
  they're trying to work within like what they God and like the
• 34:24
  players they think they have and their capabilities that they
• 34:26
  think that they have and I understand You're trying to do
• 34:29
  that, we're giving it time, but God damn it.
• 34:31
  It was painful. Yeah, and I'm glad I believe
• 34:34
  that it made me feel a lot better than taking half that.
• 34:39
  We just met there. We thought that I would go
• 34:41
  shower, Robbie company because this is something I've said all
• 34:44
  year, I'm a high school coach and our kids try to jump off
• 34:48
  because they're trying to get into Advantage because they're
• 34:50
  tired of me, chewing their ass for getting bigger touche,
• 34:54
  touche, and that's part of it, right?
• 34:57
  So, A lot of the reason people jump off sizes because they're
• 35:00
  thinking too fucking much, they're thinking about getting
• 35:03
  beat, they're thinking about getting advantage over the guy
• 35:05
  in front of them. Could because they have gotten
• 35:07
  beat their thinking, too, much about shit that isn't doing my
• 35:11
  job, that play, right? That's the shit that happens
• 35:16
  when you're not ready to win. And this team just wasn't ready
• 35:21
  to win this year and summer days because guys, were asked to do
• 35:24
  too much. Yep.
• 35:26
  But, because they are Rear role players that best that were
• 35:31
  asked to be starters because of the position that the former
• 35:35
  staff, put this roster in truth. That's, that's part of it.
• 35:39
  Can I put it? I put, hold on, let me cause I'm
• 35:41
  gonna go back to you because this is going to be my ugly.
• 35:44
  My ugly, this year was the depth we chart tally.
• 35:47
  You said during that NC State and take them out there was
• 35:50
  nobody to put in. That was the issue.
• 35:52
  You put the next guy in. Like, Grant Wells might be
• 35:55
  laying in a body bag in the back field because they couldn't blow
• 35:58
  put in Jack. Holly feel if Johnny Jordans
• 36:00
  fucking up, like you're sitting there and it's like
• 36:24
  out there and that was the issue is like, this is what we've got
• 36:27
  and when Look how it went down. That's true.
• 36:32
  I'll agree. Some of the players did look
• 36:34
  confused but that that's going to happen with the was the
• 36:36
  regime change in a scheme change but it was that whole depth of
• 36:41
  you know you see it on every team.
• 36:43
  If somebody does make the screw-up make the fuck up.
• 36:45
  Listen you need to sit the next series, you need your head in
• 36:49
  the game, get your head in the game.
• 36:51
  If you're talking about, putting somebody out there, that is
• 36:53
  nowhere near ready? You cannot do that.
• 36:55
  You cannot and there's the issue and R going to get into it later
• 36:59
  about how, you know, about the building of the program.
• 37:02
  But to me, that was the ugly part.
• 37:04
  It was like, this is who we are. This is who we got English
• 37:08
  behind it. Go ahead and finish up, run.
• 37:10
  Sorry, I had to hit that to deal with, oh, you're good.
• 37:13
  And I mean, let's talk a little bit about John's Point here.
• 37:17
  So ball hit dudes in the helmet. That's the thing to kill me.
• 37:20
  All year, is that there's there's these plays all over the
• 37:23
  field and guys just were Americans making the plays and
• 37:27
  the big thing we talked about death.
• 37:29
  It's because they are being asked to do too much in year.
• 37:34
  One of a new system. Go back to that point, right?
• 37:38
  There it goes. It goes back to the previous
• 37:40
  point. We did not have the depth on
• 37:43
  this roster where you can ask these role-playing players to go
• 37:50
  out there and make game winning plays when it mattered, and
• 37:54
  that's the ugly. And that's something that you
• 37:56
  got to kind of look at it and be like, alright, I understand, but
• 38:02
  it's still frustrating as hell, and it was big-time evidence.
• 38:07
  Author. John's point up here at the wide
• 38:09
  receiver group. Oh God!
• 38:10
  Yes, outside of Caleb Smith. We didn't have guys and who had
• 38:13
  to make plays weekend week out. Yeah, it's true.
• 38:18
  It's true. It's very true.
• 38:20
  But it's like you, I mean, like, yeah, I'll say it.
• 38:23
  I mean, we was asking role plays.
• 38:24
  Like what I told you I was gonna get on Brian about.
• 38:27
  I didn't know, Brown, was it like a fan like seven years?
• 38:33
  And I didn't know he was like a friend.
• 38:35
  I look at meanwhile, his mother. We got the Lakers it now.
• 38:38
  Yeah. So yeah, on this me, we was
• 38:41
  asking Patrick Beverley to be LeBron you work.
• 38:44
  We still. Are we fucking still are?
• 38:49
  The Hokies was trying to put Pat Bev as LeBron.
• 38:53
  We had wide receivers, they should have been out there
• 38:55
  fucking blocking or plan on kickoff, asking them to get us a
• 39:01
  pivotal, third down and it was pitiful.
• 39:04
  And I will say it, that's a that's a JetBlue reference there
• 39:08
  by our buddy. John Lorac John will take this
• 39:13
  down real quick you know where we get some of this other stuff
• 39:17
  later. So you know it's three and
• 39:18
  eight. First of all, let's talk about
• 39:22
  this next because there's always a painful moment for everybody.
• 39:25
  We've been fans, Jeremy roughly 20 years, tally, roughly 20
• 39:29
  years, me, and Brian roof in 25 years.
• 39:31
  So we've been fans for a long time.
• 39:34
  We all have those painful games, the one that just sliced your
• 39:36
  heart, Yeah, we're good. Go in.
• 39:39
  Everything's gonna be all right. Fuck not good.
• 39:42
  We will talk about that in a few minutes.
• 39:44
  I'll Matt Neal Levar joining us but we got one more man in the
• 39:47
  green room. Let's get this man in the king
• 39:50
  of the Hokey spaces, the Space. Ace has faced a bring him home,
• 39:57
  bring him home, bring him off coming home, bills on and with
• 40:02
  us go. And where's that apple pie,
• 40:04
  moonshine. All right, boys.
• 40:06
  Before we start anything. Cheers.
• 40:09
  Here's up klinke for your click Keys, Clank, Keys, clink, he's
• 40:12
  good. I had already went, we are about
• 40:15
  to start a tradition, unlike any other, any other, it is the
• 40:20
  state of the program. Boundary Corner podcast Style.
• 40:26
  With Jeremy with Tally, we can get into it but before we get
• 40:30
  into it. Y'all gentlemen, how's everybody
• 40:32
  doing? Y'all been doing good lately.
• 40:36
  Doing good? Doing good man.
• 40:38
  Working holiday time. Everybody's wanting to spend
• 40:42
  money. I'm trying to let him skip you
• 40:43
  with me. That what I say is it's a
• 40:49
  holiday season like it's a lot of traveling and watch you had
• 40:55
  to Rally around. You got you got somewhere.
• 40:58
  I gotta get around this weekend. I went back home to.
• 41:00
  Hey Sasha last weekend for my parents and now I got to go to
• 41:05
  Raleigh this weekend and we're Christmas is on a goddamn
• 41:08
  fucking weekend. I hardly even get X off.
• 41:12
  This is just like a lot of extended trips for me at this.
• 41:16
  Just like this. Put it on a Tuesday.
• 41:26
  Put it on The Sweet Spot and we know the main street pharmacy is
• 41:40
  closed on Sundays. Yeah.
• 41:43
  So, there's your upsets you. I have no excuse to close.
• 41:46
  Like I have the same base offense.
• 41:48
  I normally do. One, the team was right.
• 42:15
  The team was rolling destroyed Grambling State had some big
• 42:18
  wins. And I think I still feel overall
• 42:22
  good about the team. But they went up to Boston
• 42:24
  College in the County Center where Mi kyung feel.
• 42:27
  I don't think it's Mike Young. No disrespect.
• 42:30
  I think James Johnson steals, Mike young gets into my Ki
• 42:33
  Young's body when he goes up to be.
• 42:34
  See because we cannot fucking win there.
• 42:38
  It's All About Mary. It's awful and they weren't
• 42:42
  ten-in-one. No Revenue 11:1, excuse me
• 42:46
  Lebanon. Now lemon to Lebanon to watching
• 42:50
  it but we're looking through it overall.
• 42:52
  It's been a good season. We don't don't shit where not if
• 42:56
  this had been last year and we had to take on this, so it was
• 43:00
  not good at all lemon to some good wins a man in the right
• 43:04
  direction. Rodney rice has been cleared to
• 43:06
  play but he for some reason won't play which only anybody
• 43:11
  figure that out. It sounds like they're just
• 43:14
  trying to hold him off to the new year.
• 43:16
  But yeah, let that man, get healthy.
• 43:17
  I will I thought we needed to get the goddamn fucking Boston
• 43:20
  College. You wouldn't, you wouldn't think
• 43:21
  a know where that one bench Point.
• 43:25
  Good one, b, one b Point. Well, hold on.
• 43:30
  Here's what I want to ask is what I want to ask.
• 43:33
  I looked at the stat line tonight and just overall, Darius
• 43:36
  Maddox is starting. He's 415 tonight, he's shooting
• 43:40
  roughly under 10% of what the team is shooting everywhere.
• 43:44
  He continues to start and I know he's good on defense event.
• 43:47
  He's an athletic kid, but last season, it felt like we let him
• 43:53
  do this, and we weren't winning. Can they continue to do this?
• 43:57
  I mean, what if it's y'all, do? Y'all say, listen, you got to
• 44:00
  come off the bench, or you got to lower the volume?
• 44:05
  It's hard to say because we don't, you know, you don't see
• 44:07
  the work that they put in every day and the rotations and things
• 44:10
  like that. But his current, you gotta, you
• 44:13
  gotta change something up. He's not shooting well right
• 44:15
  now. So you gotta find a way to get
• 44:17
  him on, as you're about to get into the heart of your schedule.
• 44:20
  And you definitely want to be doing better moving into the new
• 44:25
  year and, you know, getting close to the tournament time.
• 44:28
  So, I mean what he 415 and gonna get it.
• 44:31
  Yeah. Room like Russell Westbrook, you
• 44:34
  know, it Got the shot, that's the bad thing that that that's
• 44:36
  probably why they keep riding him on because you know the shot
• 44:39
  is there, right? But right now we just say fallen
• 44:42
  and even with volume tonight. I mean that's that's a lot of
• 44:45
  volume tonight. That's not just, you know,
• 44:47
  shooting bad with eight shots at shooting bad with double that
• 44:50
  almost. I think he might have had the
• 44:52
  most shots. Huh.
• 44:54
  Go ahead Jeremy. He's in a slump and he was in
• 44:56
  the swamp last year. I mean, if you remember Hunter
• 44:58
  went through a slump to and he got out of it like there's just
• 45:01
  Ebbs and flows to some of this and I trust my killing more than
• 45:04
  Any of us true but absolutely, you know, but honey that's the
• 45:12
  thing. They're all over him.
• 45:30
  This is the first two or three shots.
• 45:33
  He's not pulling the trigger anymore.
• 45:34
  Yeah, he goes. We all need it really bad.
• 45:37
  He knows he's missing his like this, not my night, I need to
• 45:39
  move the ball. If he's not, he's gonna keep it
• 45:41
  rolling. If he's not, he's gonna
• 45:43
  facilitate Darius, just keeps you just keep shooting.
• 45:49
  Sometimes he shoots his way out of it.
• 45:50
  Then the game we saw him make a couple clutch shots down the
• 45:53
  stretch a couple games back then.
• 45:55
  Oh kind of put us over the top. So you know it's kind of you
• 45:59
  take, you take the good with the bad but when it's that bad it's
• 46:02
  and you taking that many shots just Definitely hurts the team.
• 46:05
  And you know when everybody else is playing solo energy tonight,
• 46:10
  you know, you can't have a guy that stopping the ball and
• 46:12
  taking that many shots that aren't falling in Drew are
• 46:17
  greet. Yeah and Michaele.
• 46:19
  I mean he had a good had a few good shots but I mean he wasn't
• 46:22
  hot either. I mean no one was really hot.
• 46:25
  Must had a few good moves, Padula missing a long way and so
• 46:29
  sloppy, sloppy and flat. That's all that was.
• 46:34
  Well, the funny part is we talked about that for game
• 46:36
  stretch. Where's what?
• 46:38
  Minnesota Carolina Dane, Oklahoma state will.
• 46:40
  Like, we can just get through that 2 & 2, 3 & 1.
• 46:43
  We went for no. And then we do this.
• 46:48
  Frustrated, by the way, a week from Saturday, it's not a
• 46:52
  cakewalk. I mean, weights coming off that
• 46:54
  win vs Duke last night, right? Dipper eyes.
• 46:58
  Deceive me. They beat Duke last night.
• 47:00
  So we got them, right? Got to go on the road against
• 47:03
  them. So, you know, they're going to
• 47:04
  be feeling themselves, hopefully too much.
• 47:06
  Hopefully we can take care of them but I think I mean they
• 47:11
  came, they came into that Duke game, kind of, you know, looking
• 47:15
  for something to eat. Now, they got a little little
• 47:16
  bit of gas, so we'll see what happens.
• 47:18
  We'll see. We got, they get the boys, get a
• 47:20
  10-day break, wake will be a little bit better of an
• 47:23
  atmosphere, but hopefully Rodney rice.
• 47:25
  Please that game. Hopefully, it's our New Year's
• 47:28
  Eve gift. Other than, you know, getting
• 47:30
  really drunk and feeling really good for that night.
• 47:34
  All right? So let's, let's take a pause
• 47:36
  before we get into the football. What's everybody drinking?
• 47:38
  My, let's do a roll call. Apple pie moonshine.
• 47:43
  Jeremy got Jameson. Get been ipas pacing under this
• 47:53
  current. Let you go.
• 47:54
  Curtis is got the Kirkland 12 year old scotch Boys.
• 48:01
  We roll a little 11 white label tonight.
• 48:05
  It's Going Down Smooth, it's going down through.
• 48:06
  There is always good stuff goes on.
• 48:09
  So there's our roles are never black people know you don't ever
• 48:12
  drink. Nothing has got two white,
• 48:15
  name's Evan Williams. No, but we've actually got some
• 48:24
  roll calls. Y'all from the chat here.
• 48:28
  Put that up there, everybody, Matt Spring.
• 48:31
  By the way, we would want every It's almost the holiday time.
• 48:40
  It's almost a week's vacation for me.
• 48:42
  So, by the way, if that's true. So if you're out there, you want
• 48:53
  to get on roll call, Pop this one in Facebook, give you two of
• 48:57
  the Twitter replies and we will see what you're drinking with
• 49:00
  us, but let's jump over to football and this is kind of
• 49:03
  going to be a season retrospective.
• 49:05
  But let's go here before we before we jump into what
• 49:08
  happened this season, I'll start with Jeremy here.
• 49:13
  What was your preseason record expectations?
• 49:15
  Where were you thinking? This team was going to go you
• 49:18
  live in Blacksburg you probably hear more chatter than we do but
• 49:21
  what did you feel going into season?
• 49:24
  I I mean I was hoping we were going to get six or seven wins.
• 49:27
  I mean the idea of us not going to a bowl game is foreign to me.
• 49:31
  So I thought that we were going to come in.
• 49:35
  You know, it at least, you know, get to a ball game.
• 49:38
  That, that was just my general feeling, you know, but we also
• 49:42
  didn't have any kind of idea about what we're about to see.
• 49:45
  So, All right. Tally, what was your preseason?
• 49:51
  Expectations. So I put a tweet out before the
• 49:54
  season just like what a funny picture and said if he probably
• 49:58
  gets us to a bowl game and he needs to have a statue made.
• 50:05
  I seen it, I mean, wasn't trying to be - just looking at had no
• 50:09
  expectations. Yeah, you know you said hey I'm
• 50:12
  gonna watch it and you know, I want to win but I just want to
• 50:15
  see some improvement because they've been You have a new head
• 50:18
  coach new offensive coordinator, new defensive coordinator, new
• 50:25
  all positions, just about all were new.
• 50:28
  So it was just too much unexpect.
• 50:29
  I mean, too much unknown for me to be like, I know we're going
• 50:33
  to go ahead and and win game. So I thought maybe five wins is
• 50:37
  what I about thought we would get.
• 50:39
  But of course, you always, like you said, you're always hoping
• 50:42
  that. I know we don't make a bowl game
• 50:43
  because it's like so unexpected for us not to I'm going to go
• 50:49
  ahead and we we own hours here on the boundary Corner podcast.
• 50:53
  I wouldn't stupid and said, nine and three, don't throw things.
• 50:56
  And so we. So we said I said, 93, I knew he
• 51:06
  had some talent. I thought the usually you get to
• 51:09
  spark with the new coaching staff, but we did have a caveat
• 51:13
  And I'm gonna go ahead and say it.
• 51:14
  What I caveat was as we said five and seven and that was
• 51:18
  saying if things don't click right, well obviously things
• 51:21
  didn't click right. Some players got hurt that could
• 51:25
  not get hurt and the biggest one was Malachi Malachi getting
• 51:29
  hurt. The beginning of the season was
• 51:30
  an absolute just it crippled the offense which was already in a
• 51:34
  bad position, it hurt to start and obviously it hurt to kind
• 51:38
  of, you know, as we wrapped up things.
• 51:40
  So it was kind of hurting on the front end and the back end.
• 51:43
  I mean, we said five wins was probably kind of the floor
• 51:48
  borderline floor of this team and I think if you have a
• 51:51
  healthy Squad you probably get five.
• 51:53
  Maybe, I don't know. But we played in what three or
• 51:58
  four to close games, small wire place all the one lost them all.
• 52:02
  But one I mean the one you got to finish better and some of
• 52:06
  that's on the coaching. Absolutely.
• 52:09
  Let me switch schemes in the middle of the schedule.
• 52:14
  We did I mean that's one of the things we're going to talk about
• 52:21
  I think as we get kind of further into this thing is that
• 52:23
  you know what are we looking like going into next year?
• 52:27
  And I mean I've got to I've got a bunch of thoughts on that
• 52:29
  front. So I got guns, we'll hit down
• 52:31
  pretty heavy. But yeah, I mean, we're
• 52:33
  switching schemes with through and it's so hard.
• 52:37
  It's so hard. To change course in the middle
• 52:42
  of a season like that because number one, you already had a
• 52:46
  new scheme that you recommend in the start the year players
• 52:49
  weren't even fully acclimated to that.
• 52:52
  And all of a sudden you're switching it up, you're changing
• 52:54
  things and I give them a, some kudos for not going full bore
• 53:00
  into a completely different direction.
• 53:02
  It was more like tweaks and modifications versus a full-bore
• 53:06
  swap there but at the same time, It's a struggle to do that much
• 53:13
  in the middle of the Season. Normally you like to add two or
• 53:17
  three plays to your playbook a week, it's kind of you progress
• 53:19
  through this through the schedule, right, whether it's
• 53:22
  specific to that team or whether it's just you adding to the
• 53:25
  Playbook to get more Dynamic and having to make some wholesale
• 53:30
  changes in the middle of the year, is a pretty big ass for a
• 53:33
  team. But that's just the, in some way
• 53:36
  it was a miscalculation to start the year that we thought.
• 53:39
  We could lean on a power running game, work play action and think
• 53:44
  that that was going to be enough to get some wins in the ACC.
• 53:47
  Hmm. It's true.
• 53:50
  It's true but at least here's the one thing you can already
• 53:53
  say about this coaching staff and it did not take long as
• 53:56
  they're not afraid to quickly make the adjustments.
• 53:58
  They're not afraid to say this bull shit ain't working.
• 54:02
  We have to try something different and I think yes, for
• 54:06
  us following this program closes.
• 54:07
  We do the prior coaching staff, I would literally die on a hill.
• 54:11
  Like, like this is not working. We do what we do.
• 54:17
  I'm just tell me how it ring the bell.
• 54:20
  Every time someone says he gets it
• 54:39
  Yes, that's pretty damn good. So what was some of the good
• 54:48
  that you saw? And I mean, 3 and 8 season?
• 54:51
  That's I'm asking a lot of you to lead off for many the main
• 54:56
  thing I guess is because when you look at every game I made,
• 55:01
  it was easy for these kids to quit is either for the coaching
• 55:04
  staff to quit. But watching every game, I never
• 55:08
  seen quit. It, you know I guess that's the
• 55:11
  good that you seen. You seem that the kids didn't
• 55:13
  quit on the coaching staff coaching staff, really didn't
• 55:16
  quit on the kids because you gotta think we did win three
• 55:20
  games. I think we would have won for if
• 55:22
  we had to play uv8 data for win season but I mean we lost a
• 55:27
  North Carolina state on the road.
• 55:29
  By one point, we lost a Georgia Tech at home by one point, we
• 55:34
  lost a Miami at home by six points.
• 55:37
  I mean, it was plenty of games that could have been a little
• 55:41
  different than they were had. We had a couple of players.
• 55:45
  So, again, I mean, I just think that the fight was there.
• 55:50
  So I think that was good for the season.
• 55:53
  Thank you. Jeremy.
• 55:54
  What you got? I mean, I had several points.
• 55:59
  I feel like we were coming together a whole lot better on
• 56:01
  offense. For the end.
• 56:02
  We switch it up in the middle and it seemed to start working
• 56:06
  toward the end of the season. I thought that was pretty good.
• 56:09
  Lame was always Rocky. No matter what.
• 56:11
  We had everyone coming out everyone supporting that can
• 56:15
  only go on for so long that we have a very loyal fan base.
• 56:18
  We do you know I think we got a good three years of that if it's
• 56:22
  time fix it three years ago, To see some fall off, but I believe
• 56:26
  in our fan base and I believe in our team.
• 56:29
  I felt like the running back play started coming together a
• 56:32
  little bit more. We saw some flashes.
• 56:34
  I mean, Keshawn King looks so good, in some games and then of
• 56:38
  course, you'd have like a fumbles and shit.
• 56:40
  But I mean, there were some flashes and one of my biggest
• 56:44
  things was the defense. It wasn't like a leader anything
• 56:48
  but it kept us in ball games like if we would have had a
• 56:51
  decent offense like In some of those games are headed just
• 56:56
  click a little more like it did toward the end of the season.
• 56:58
  We would have had more wins. Yeah.
• 57:01
  And we talked about it all year the defense kept us in games at
• 57:05
  least for three quarters. Yeah pretty much the whole
• 57:08
  fucking year. Yeah.
• 57:10
  Which I mean that's that's as much as you can ask especially
• 57:13
  how often the offense was given the ball back to the defense.
• 57:17
  So I think that was ever mark See that the defense can hold up
• 57:26
  against even some of the better competition.
• 57:28
  The ACC. I know we didn't play Clemson,
• 57:31
  but we played kind of with two of the best for in the ACC.
• 57:35
  If we're being honest, right and held up pretty well against all
• 57:40
  of them but UNC on defense. And I still look like you and
• 57:44
  see and say that that was just a bad matchup because we probably
• 57:48
  had our worst cornerback situation in that game having
• 57:51
  one out and and not having delaying really playing
• 57:57
  significant snaps at that point. So for Dre banging to have game
• 58:02
  like that again. There he is.
• 58:04
  All right. All his talents gone, all his
• 58:05
  talents gone. I don't care how much money they
• 58:07
  throw at him. He's got worse.
• 58:13
  The young players y'all. The point.
• 58:15
  Y'all made a great seeing the young players seeing, man,
• 58:18
  sword. The lane immediately freshman
• 58:21
  All-American, right. 4247 immediately, kalai Lawson.
• 58:26
  I think he's figured out will, and I sit there and I see
• 58:29
  glimpses of treatment treatment, remain analyzed and will
• 58:32
  linebacker. Jason, Keller a couple times,
• 58:36
  you know, some of the young'uns McRae and Nelson, getting good
• 58:39
  play. They're not there yet, but you
• 58:41
  saw them making good plays. He's guys like strowman and to
• 58:45
  go along with the coaching staff.
• 58:47
  Not quittin. My other.
• 58:49
  Good is. When they realized it wasn't
• 58:51
  working, they were like, okay, it's not working.
• 58:53
  We need to change this. We need to change his shit.
• 58:56
  We're not getting it done and to do that in the middle of a
• 59:00
  season, it takes balls, it takes balls from a head coach to say.
• 59:05
  It ain't working with changing it.
• 59:07
  But then what about this? You talked about Keshawn King
• 59:09
  fumbling. How quick would he have been on
• 59:12
  the pine in previous years? We would have seen him back.
• 59:16
  Yes, are right. You saw a distaff he fumbled
• 59:19
  couple, couple series later. There he is again, and in some
• 59:22
  of those series, he would make a big play.
• 59:24
  So it's like, it's that combination of the youth, along
• 59:29
  with the coaching staff, even though they got schooled a
• 59:31
  couple times, being willing to change.
• 59:35
  The course when it ain't working.
• 59:38
  Yeah, I'm at meet you can say that one of the bad is that, you
• 59:41
  know, there were obvious points in the season where you saw that
• 59:44
  this staff was green, right? But I think that, I think the
• 59:48
  thing that you can see the positive you can take away that
• 59:50
  is that this green staff, understood, their green and
• 59:54
  said. All right, we can't just stick
• 59:56
  with what we think should work that we got to, we got to tweak
• 59:58
  this and see what will actually work in practice.
• 1:00:02
  Not just on paper about y'all. What about y'all?
• 1:00:06
  What bad And I mean I guess to go along like just to kind of
• 1:00:12
  the yin to the Yang of the good that I discussed was you know
• 1:00:16
  never quitting and being in those close games but a bad as
• 1:00:19
  losing the close games. Yeah, you know for a football
• 1:00:22
  team is easy to give up whenever you lose a game that you're
• 1:00:28
  supposed to win, you up by six and you end up losing by one or
• 1:00:32
  whatever the case may be. We had a couple of those games
• 1:00:34
  that we did that in that, we kind of formed Not fumbled the
• 1:00:38
  ball but form of the game. So I guess the bad to me would
• 1:00:42
  be losing those close games, but that's part of being young, you
• 1:00:45
  know, this part of being green as we talked about.
• 1:00:50
  It was good. It was good to see growth,
• 1:00:53
  though, because at the end of the, the end of the year, people
• 1:00:56
  and say, is Liberty, do matters, fucking Georgia Tech we lost,
• 1:01:00
  but you go to Liberty and pretty hostile environment for us and
• 1:01:05
  you win this game. So that that that could have
• 1:01:09
  easily been will to win. Team pack it up, it's over but
• 1:01:13
  the they never quit and we won that one.
• 1:01:15
  But the bad to me will be losing the close games this year and it
• 1:01:19
  fucking sucks to lose. Lose.
• 1:01:21
  Yeah. Game.
• 1:01:22
  When you think you going to weird Rip Your Heart Right Out?
• 1:01:26
  What about you, Jim? Well, first off, I wanna shout
• 1:01:29
  out. I got over that Brian Cobbs
• 1:01:32
  motherfuckers. Drinking Everclear right now,
• 1:01:34
  goddamn, put that back up. So the first half and we have a
• 1:01:52
  lot of Talent on the offensive one.
• 1:01:56
  I don't know if you all have ever stood next to Silas but
• 1:01:59
  he's the biggest motherfucker I've ever stood next to him.
• 1:02:03
  My entire life. You don't dream.
• 1:02:05
  I got to meet you up at the spring game.
• 1:02:07
  He's a big motherfucker. Yes, we got some town on there
• 1:02:10
  and we've got some size and it's like we couldn't figure out how
• 1:02:14
  to do with that. Understand we got a new oh, I'm
• 1:02:16
  coaching these. You know, a really really good
• 1:02:19
  one. We're trying to figure Sure that
• 1:02:20
  out and that was a huge weakness in our offense.
• 1:02:24
  Yeah, you can talk about like your fucking quarterback needs
• 1:02:27
  to hit this or hit that or you're running back seem to do
• 1:02:30
  this and that it all starts with offensive line.
• 1:02:33
  If you don't have a line, you don't have a fucking offense,
• 1:02:35
  that's it. Yep.
• 1:02:36
  And my entire thing is our entire offense would do so much.
• 1:02:40
  Better opposition groups would do better with our offensive
• 1:02:44
  line playing better and I don't know if it's exactly our
• 1:02:48
  players, just not connecting with the scheme.
• 1:02:50
  Scheme, not taking into account our players strength, but that
• 1:02:53
  was a huge weakness for us. Also our secondary.
• 1:02:59
  This was actually, there was an issue with a lot of people were
• 1:03:03
  complaining. We weren't bringing our Rush
• 1:03:06
  enough like we weren't bringing a lot of five man rushes.
• 1:03:09
  We weren't bringing all that and pry actually talk to Bud about
• 1:03:13
  it and he explained it, but exactly what he was doing.
• 1:03:17
  It's because the numbers weren't lining up with Ringing that
• 1:03:20
  Rush. And it actually put our
• 1:03:24
  defensive backs in a better position to intercept the ball
• 1:03:28
  and make plays whenever we didn't bring that kind of rush
• 1:03:30
  because we had some help in the back.
• 1:03:32
  We're putting them in that position to try to do that and
• 1:03:34
  it still wasn't happening. That was a huge problem for us
• 1:03:38
  is we weren't getting churros and then the other point was we
• 1:03:44
  were having turnovers. We were losing the ball left and
• 1:03:48
  right on key drops. You know, that lost is the Miami
• 1:03:51
  game. And a player will be playing out
• 1:03:53
  of their minds and then all of a sudden phone and then it's like,
• 1:03:57
  fuck everybody, entire momentum is gone.
• 1:04:00
  So those were the three biggest things for me, because we lost
• 1:04:04
  the turnover battle on both sides of the ball and our
• 1:04:07
  offensive line just wasn't clicking for whatever reason.
• 1:04:10
  So the bad for me is a guy that like me that looks at tape every
• 1:04:15
  week, a guy that watches every game as detailed as he can
• 1:04:21
  seeing. How fucking close, we are to
• 1:04:25
  being a decent team because one guy doesn't do one assignment.
• 1:04:31
  Or if we said that under him, if you're a half second, you know,
• 1:04:36
  sooner with the block or if you're a half second better, you
• 1:04:40
  know, getting off this or getting off that like, we are so
• 1:04:44
  close to being at least a six or seven win team that it tears.
• 1:04:51
  My heart out man. Because every time I look at the
• 1:04:53
  tape, I'm like there are plays all over this tape where we can
• 1:04:58
  be a six or seven or eight win team and we're not it tears.
• 1:05:03
  My heart out that we have to say that Yeah, it's here we go, man.
• 1:05:13
  The old saying basically going from having an ol philosophy,
• 1:05:17
  not messing with the talent to a scheme that doesn't match with
• 1:05:19
  herself philosophy, necessary switch, but still risky?
• 1:05:23
  It's true. My bad.
• 1:05:24
  I'm going to go kind of with Kalyan.
• 1:05:25
  This, my bad was there were times in the fourth quarter of
• 1:05:29
  these close games where they weren't quitting, but that one
• 1:05:34
  bad thing would happen and You would just see like the off.
• 1:05:37
  Fuck. Yeah.
• 1:05:39
  They would start thinking again they would start thinking again
• 1:05:43
  and those were the frustrating Parts like especially the oh my
• 1:05:47
  god. Well I mean I can throw all of
• 1:05:50
  these are babies who only y'all in the comments are fucking
• 1:05:54
  Crush any right now. I appreciate y'all for real man
• 1:05:57
  yells. Fucking God we got we got
• 1:06:02
  enough. Yeah, Hitler bar up real quick
• 1:06:07
  because this one was true in decision.
• 1:06:10
  Making is one thing. He made some going to get to
• 1:06:11
  that when we say ugly, but it was a nice little touch pass.
• 1:06:23
  It don't get me wrong. I think Grant played his heart
• 1:06:26
  out but there's certain times a little Crossing route.
• 1:06:28
  You'd see him like fastball fastball and it's like no that
• 1:06:31
  needs to be a change of point or no laser ball behind them.
• 1:06:35
  So there but it was just that fourth quarter for me.
• 1:06:39
  That's my truth, bad bad. It's like you're right there.
• 1:06:42
  Think pit driving that ball. We can go take the lead.
• 1:06:46
  Perfect play and then we fumble. And just everybody just does
• 1:06:50
  like this like, oh my God, why did that happen?
• 1:06:52
  And Christ said it over and over, you have to learn to win.
• 1:06:56
  We have to learn when well, and I won't let them kind of.
• 1:07:00
  Go shovel this back to good. Let that fourth quarter, get
• 1:07:03
  away from us. Yeah, but same thing.
• 1:07:05
  But think about this, go to the Liberty game.
• 1:07:08
  That was great. That was the best fourth-quarter
• 1:07:11
  we played. Well, he's a goddamn front.
• 1:07:27
  The Liberty game, that was the best.
• 1:07:29
  Fourth-quarter we played all year.
• 1:07:32
  We forced turnovers when we got the ball, we win scored a
• 1:07:35
  touchdown. Down.
• 1:07:36
  When we got the ball, we satin round out the plot.
• 1:07:39
  The best for. So we deal with those
• 1:07:41
  heartbreaks that crushing defeats the freaking, we can't
• 1:07:44
  win. And finally that last game we
• 1:07:46
  saw a like click and you saw them when they force those
• 1:07:51
  turnovers and that shit happen. It's like the eyes were like,
• 1:07:54
  this is what it's like, this is how we win.
• 1:07:57
  I wish we could have played UVA because the tallies point, I
• 1:08:00
  think we in this season and four and eight and going in with
• 1:08:03
  momentum, just so everyone knows.
• 1:08:08
  The wisdom is coming from the alcohol of Matt Neal.
• 1:08:15
  Let's go. Now, I'm going to let Jeremy
• 1:08:17
  start this one off. Jeremy, what's the ugly?
• 1:08:19
  I don't know. How do we trigger the UNC fans?
• 1:08:22
  I need to. I need to hear this.
• 1:08:25
  Short rail throwing up when you can, what is happening.
• 1:08:29
  Jeremy, go ahead. I will let you go ahead.
• 1:08:32
  Well we fitted it to Jeremy on this one, John pitch, sorry.
• 1:08:35
  Sorry, Jeremy you go ahead. Now not tally.
• 1:08:38
  You go ahead, I guess, man. Like when we talked about the
• 1:08:43
  ugly, you know, you can always say what an offense sucked on
• 1:08:47
  the quarterback. Suck, whatever you want to say
• 1:08:49
  when you're just in the moment. But when you dig into it as like
• 1:08:52
  offense was just Two or three plays away from learning how to
• 1:08:58
  win. And what do we do?
• 1:09:00
  We fucking jump offsides. We go from a third and seven,
• 1:09:05
  thirty and eight to a third and 12.
• 1:09:07
  How many times was office line, jumping off sides.
• 1:09:10
  How many times did we commit stupid penalties that shot
• 1:09:13
  herself in the foot insights that we jumped offsides like 10
• 1:09:16
  times. Watch the games of, like, only
• 1:09:56
  thing I can say about the coaches was like, get them out,
• 1:10:01
  make him sit down, I don't know. But as far as jumping on sides,
• 1:10:04
  like that, ain't gonna do what the coach in that situation.
• 1:10:08
  You're jumping off size because you may not know what you're
• 1:10:11
  doing, or should I got said, I've had from Alabama, man.
• 1:10:17
  You know anything we on the line, so,
• 1:10:33
  For the most part. Like the penalties killed us way
• 1:10:37
  too many times you know, or even like Curtis said we're going
• 1:10:42
  down and get ready to try to make it a game and that one
• 1:10:46
  play. We miss farmer the ball, we drop
• 1:10:48
  a pass, we throw a pass to supposed to be changeup.
• 1:10:54
  For fastball in this we would have been a first down there
• 1:10:57
  whenever we punting the ball. So things like that was what was
• 1:11:00
  ugly to me to watch. Jeremy Jeremy what you got.
• 1:11:05
  Well, I'd like to start off with the way our entire offense.
• 1:11:08
  Started off this year again. So do you.
• 1:11:10
  It's like we never came out of that fucking elevator.
• 1:11:14
  I'm not one to criticize play-calling especially on the
• 1:11:18
  offensive. I think offensive coordinators a
• 1:11:19
  lot of time. Get way too much shit.
• 1:11:22
  Oh, yeah, for sure. We did not figure out how to get
• 1:11:25
  our fucking offense to match, especially the first half of the
• 1:11:28
  year. It was awful.
• 1:11:29
  It's like tally, talking about, like jumping off, signs all the
• 1:11:31
  time. What the fuck?
• 1:11:33
  Are we jumping off sighs? That's Your simple thing to
• 1:11:35
  fucking I found myself with like the Bland ass, like up the
• 1:11:40
  middle up the middl maybe we'll do a plan fucking bullshit like
• 1:11:43
  on, after myself wishing for a Jet Sweep and you can quote me
• 1:11:47
  on that Jesus. Why it was James Genius.
• 1:11:56
  Like, I also understand what they're trying to work within
• 1:11:58
  like what they God and like the players they think they have and
• 1:12:01
  their capabilities that they think that they have and I
• 1:12:04
  understand You're trying to do that, we're giving it time, but
• 1:12:06
  God damn it. It was painful.
• 1:12:10
  Yeah, and I'm glad I believe that it made me feel a lot
• 1:12:14
  better than taking half that. We just met there.
• 1:12:16
  We thought that I would go shower, Robbie company because
• 1:12:19
  this is something I've said all year, I'm a high school coach
• 1:12:22
  and our kids try to jump off because they're trying to get
• 1:12:25
  into Advantage because they're tired of me, chewing their ass
• 1:12:27
  for getting bigger touche, touche, and that's part of it,
• 1:12:33
  right? So, A lot of the reason people
• 1:12:35
  jump off sizes because they're thinking too fucking much,
• 1:12:38
  they're thinking about getting beat, they're thinking about
• 1:12:40
  getting advantage over the guy in front of them.
• 1:12:42
  Could because they have gotten beat their thinking, too, much
• 1:12:45
  about shit that isn't doing my job, that play, right?
• 1:12:52
  That's the shit that happens when you're not ready to win.
• 1:12:56
  And this team just wasn't ready to win this year and summer days
• 1:12:59
  because guys, were asked to do too much.
• 1:13:02
  Yep. But, because they are Rear role
• 1:13:06
  players that best that were asked to be starters because of
• 1:13:10
  the position that the former staff, put this roster is true.
• 1:13:15
  That's that's part of it. Can I put it?
• 1:13:17
  I put, hold on, let me cause I'm gonna go back to you because
• 1:13:19
  this is going to be my ugly. My ugly, this year was the depth
• 1:13:22
  we chart tally. You said during that NC State
• 1:13:25
  and take them out there was nobody to put in.
• 1:13:28
  That was the issue. You put the next guy in.
• 1:13:30
  Like, Grant Wells might be laying in a body bag in the back
• 1:13:33
  field because they couldn't believe we're put in Jack.
• 1:13:35
  Holly feel if Johnny Jordans fucking up, like you're sitting
• 1:13:40
  there and it's like out there and that was the issue
• 1:14:03
  is like, this is what we've got and when Look how it went down.
• 1:14:07
  That's true. I'll agree.
• 1:14:09
  Some of the players did look confused but that that's going
• 1:14:12
  to happen with the was the regime change in a scheme change
• 1:14:15
  but it was that whole depth of you know you see it on every
• 1:14:19
  team. If somebody does make the
• 1:14:20
  screw-up make the fuck up. Listen you need to sit the next
• 1:14:23
  series, you need your head in the game, get your head in the
• 1:14:26
  game. If you're talking about, putting
• 1:14:28
  somebody out there, that is nowhere near ready?
• 1:14:30
  You cannot do that. You cannot and there's the issue
• 1:14:34
  and R going to get into it later about how, you know, about the
• 1:14:38
  building of the program. But to me, that was the ugly
• 1:14:40
  part. It was like, this is who we are.
• 1:14:42
  This is who we got English behind it.
• 1:14:46
  Go ahead and finish up, run. Sorry, I had to hit that to deal
• 1:14:48
  with, oh, you're good. And I mean, let's talk a little
• 1:14:51
  bit about John's Point here. So ball hit dudes in the helmet.
• 1:14:55
  That's the thing to kill me. All year, is that there's
• 1:14:59
  there's these plays all over the field and guys just were
• 1:15:02
  Americans making the plays and the big thing we talked about
• 1:15:05
  death. It's because they are being
• 1:15:07
  asked to do too much in year. One of a new system.
• 1:15:13
  Caitlin that point, right. There it goes.
• 1:15:15
  It goes back to the previous point.
• 1:15:17
  We did not have the depth on this roster where you can ask
• 1:15:23
  these role-playing players to go out there and make game winning
• 1:15:28
  plays when it mattered, and that's the ugly.
• 1:15:31
  And that's something that you got to kind of look at it and be
• 1:15:35
  like, alright, I understand, but it's still frustrating as hell,
• 1:15:40
  and it was big-time evidence. Author.
• 1:15:43
  John's point up here at the wide receiver group.
• 1:15:46
  Oh God! Yes, outside of Caleb Smith.
• 1:15:49
  We didn't have guys and who had to make plays weekend week out.
• 1:15:53
  Yeah, it's true. It's true.
• 1:15:55
  It's very true. But it's like you, I mean, the
• 1:15:58
  lucky I'll say it, I mean we was asking role plays.
• 1:16:01
  Like what I told you I was gonna get on Brian about.
• 1:16:04
  I didn't know, Brown, was it like a fan like seven years?
• 1:16:10
  And I didn't know he was like a friend.
• 1:16:11
  I look at meanwhile, his mother. We got the Lakers it now.
• 1:16:14
  Yeah. So yeah, on this me, we was
• 1:16:17
  asking Patrick Beverley to be LeBron you work.
• 1:16:20
  We still. Are we fucking still are?
• 1:16:26
  The Hokies was trying to put Pat bill as LeBron.
• 1:16:30
  We had wide receivers, they should have been out there
• 1:16:32
  fucking blocking or plan on kickoff, asking them to get us a
• 1:16:37
  pivotal, third down and it was pitiful.
• 1:16:41
  And I will say it, that's a that's a JetBlue reference there
• 1:16:45
  by our buddy. John Lorac John will take this
• 1:16:50
  down real quick you know where we get some of this other stuff
• 1:16:53
  later. So you know it's three and
• 1:16:55
  eight. First of all, let's talk about
• 1:16:58
  this next because there's always a painful moment for everybody.
• 1:17:02
  We've been fans, Jeremy roughly 20 years, tally, roughly 20
• 1:17:06
  years, me, and Brian roof in 25 years.
• 1:17:07
  So we've been fans for a long time.
• 1:17:10
  We all have those painful games, the one that just sliced your
• 1:17:13
  heart, There is one my buddy Biff who lives out in San Diego.
• 1:17:18
  The Boise State game at fool me and him were on the phone for
• 1:17:20
  two hours after that game, but he lives.
• 1:17:32
  But this season 8 losses, what was the most painful?
• 1:17:37
  Which one just just Ripken? You would just like oh my God
• 1:17:41
  basically it was a night of you see this?
• 1:17:44
  I'm gonna Drink all of this because I'm hurt.
• 1:17:45
  This is gone by the morning. Toting, you a 100.
• 1:17:50
  How do you was rough? Miami was rough.
• 1:17:53
  What was your waist for Genuine Draft?
• 1:17:54
  But ODU was the one but that was a good one here.
• 1:18:02
  That was it really just like framed everything we came in
• 1:18:06
  with so much up like maybe we could pull this together.
• 1:18:08
  Maybe, like with this new stamp this year baby.
• 1:18:11
  We got this easy schedule. Eating with 30 you let's do
• 1:18:16
  this. That was rough.
• 1:18:17
  That was really, really rough out of this.
• 1:18:23
  A Georgia Tech because one of my best friends died, he had a
• 1:18:28
  heart attack and passed away. So during the Georgia Tech game,
• 1:18:32
  I went back with back, home to bury him, and I was, of course,
• 1:18:37
  not watching the game scene, was kind of losing.
• 1:18:40
  So I'm back on the road Backwoods head.
• 1:18:44
  It to my brother's house and I'm like, oh shit, we might win.
• 1:18:47
  We didn't fucking win. We lost by one point.
• 1:18:49
  Like we always do and it ripped my heart out, man.
• 1:18:54
  I want you drive my car off in the ditch.
• 1:18:56
  I didn't want to die, but I want to drop my car off in the ditch
• 1:18:58
  to maybe get some, get some help nurse or something.
• 1:19:02
  But it was pretty rough. Tally.
• 1:19:05
  Feeling like me and Curtis did last year with the Syracuse
• 1:19:07
  game. Yeah, we encourage me and Curtis
• 1:19:10
  drove down on South Boston, to Very afraid, good friend of
• 1:19:15
  ours, Brian Wilkerson and we get out the car.
• 1:19:19
  We got a lead against Syracuse, looking pretty good, right?
• 1:19:23
  And you know, there's the memorial and then as we checking
• 1:19:28
  in its kind of things are wrapping up.
• 1:19:30
  We're like, oh shit. We're going to fucking lose this
• 1:19:32
  game. And well, it went from, we're
• 1:19:35
  going to win this game to. We're going to lose this game.
• 1:19:37
  Yeah, of course, I five minutes and that was brutal.
• 1:19:42
  Go ahead. What's yours, Brian?
• 1:19:47
  The one that hurt the most, to me, I'm gonna go with Georgia
• 1:19:49
  Tech as well because that's a game.
• 1:19:50
  We should have fucking one when you get when you get a
• 1:19:55
  quarterback, that hasn't played that significant time.
• 1:19:59
  And you get a team that has the deficiencies that are Georgia
• 1:20:04
  Tech does in a conference game. You should handle your business
• 1:20:08
  and we didn't we didn't close it out in the fourth.
• 1:20:11
  So that went to me, stung the most, I get o to you, but there
• 1:20:16
  was a lot of moving Parts with ODU at Georgia Tech.
• 1:20:19
  We should have had those things figured out.
• 1:20:21
  All right. I'm gonna I'm gonna, I'm gonna
• 1:20:22
  go complete opposite but just different from all y'all Jeremy
• 1:20:26
  mention this one. I'm going to go Miami and the
• 1:20:31
  reason I go Miami is because let's think about what had
• 1:20:34
  happened at West Virginia and North Carolina named pip.
• 1:20:38
  It's right there. We we almost got it, right?
• 1:20:40
  We lost by six teams. It was right there.
• 1:20:42
  Miami, they come out. We play like dog crap for three
• 1:20:45
  quarters and then we start knocking them in the fourth and
• 1:20:47
  knocking them. And it's sitting there and it's
• 1:20:49
  like, we get one stop. We're going to win this game.
• 1:20:53
  And the reason I put that as my worst loss, because I think if
• 1:20:56
  we win that game, I think you look at the schedule, I think by
• 1:21:01
  that time, we've learned to win, we don't lose State.
• 1:21:03
  We don't lose, Georgia Tech. I think we play a better game
• 1:21:06
  against you. I think that game was that that
• 1:21:09
  swing that basically said, if it's a close game, we're going
• 1:21:12
  to lose and against a better team, we're going to lose.
• 1:21:14
  So I'm going to go here. Let's go through some of the
• 1:21:17
  folks, devs, talk to us. We've got Matt Neal saying the
• 1:21:22
  Georgia Tech game for this year. Our buddy coach Compton says, it
• 1:21:26
  was the NC State submit Enid mental.
• 1:21:28
  The momentum, Levar agrees with some of y'all with the ODU, John
• 1:21:34
  goes state. I'm gonna throw this though
• 1:21:37
  because in John and Robbie puts us in the chat, and we're going
• 1:21:40
  to roll it from here because this is the fun night for us.
• 1:21:43
  Yeah, we just, Johnston has Peach Bowl. 06 was the hardest
• 1:21:47
  loss of all time. 07 Boston College is Elaine.
• 1:21:55
  No, hesitation by Jeremy. Thank you, fucking that.
• 1:22:00
  Goddamn run right now, it's fucking or before that game you
• 1:22:04
  know we're struggling right now. We got no steam.
• 1:22:08
  You got no one, I bet hinder phone but that 007 game, all
• 1:22:13
  this shit that's going to have a minute run.
• 1:22:18
  Hold on, Jeremy. You aren't letter grade your,
• 1:22:20
  you want to hold on. You were an undergrad in 07, did
• 1:22:24
  you even sleep? Or did you just break basically
• 1:22:26
  into the weekend? I just kept drinking, it's kept
• 1:22:30
  drinking. I was actually visiting, like, I
• 1:22:33
  went to Tech like for two years and then I transferred back for
• 1:22:38
  a girl and then I came back and finished out at Tech and then
• 1:22:40
  went to pharmacy school. That was one of the years that I
• 1:22:43
  actually wasn't enrolled at deck and then I came back for that
• 1:22:47
  game. All right, got it O7.
• 1:22:51
  B. And then I drank all through the
• 1:22:54
  weekend. I killed my liver.
• 1:22:56
  All right, tally. I gotta go probably the ACC
• 1:23:03
  championship against against Clemson 2016. just I mean, all
• 1:23:10
  of these games are rough, but What it would have kept.
• 1:23:14
  Once I hit a little bit longer, maybe, but I mean, I feel like
• 1:23:16
  that would have said the program on a totally different
• 1:23:20
  trajectory. If we win that game, we win the
• 1:23:22
  ACC that year true because you had, you know, Clemson was was
• 1:23:26
  big dog and that we lost by 7 points, we lose right there, we
• 1:23:31
  had to ride. Who knows?
• 1:23:34
  You know, we win that game. We talk somebody into coming
• 1:23:37
  back and maybe we pushed the. We push a playoff, but I don't
• 1:23:41
  know what, you know, now was pretty rough.
• 1:23:43
  It sets a precedent. You just beat the big dog.
• 1:23:45
  You just be a teen went to the National Championship.
• 1:23:48
  I see what you're saying, because that one was, because
• 1:23:50
  literally, you're right there at the doorstep, and if you listen
• 1:23:54
  to what buente said, he says if we punch it in.
• 1:23:56
  Right, there we go, for two. We don't let that thing go to
• 1:23:59
  overtime. So yeah, that was a
• 1:24:01
  heartbreaking one. Yeah, Brian.
• 1:24:03
  God. I remember I was usually
• 1:24:05
  experience here. What do you say, honestly,
• 1:24:09
  Boise? Because I feel if we beat Boise.
• 1:24:12
  You don't lose 2010, we don't lose.
• 1:24:14
  We don't lose J mu, we run the fucking table, and that's a
• 1:24:18
  fucking potential National Championship fucking football
• 1:24:21
  team. I run have that game-winning
• 1:24:25
  drive and then we did caved. He just caved.
• 1:24:29
  I'm going to go. It's right there.
• 1:24:32
  USC at FedEx in 2004 is the roughest one for me.
• 1:24:37
  A, I was unfortunately I watched this game.
• 1:24:39
  That's my number to Curtis. I appreciate Robbie mention it,
• 1:24:43
  and Curtis bringing it from here, Robbie was at the game
• 1:24:46
  with our buddy. Brian who passing other buddy,
• 1:24:48
  Jason who does the music for the show?
• 1:24:50
  They went up there, they were Whereas basically blood blood
• 1:24:54
  seats and yes it wasn't an OPI. It was not an OPI.
• 1:24:58
  I was in Farmville Brian was in football camp.
• 1:25:03
  And basically, I'd like nobody to watch the game with I'm
• 1:25:07
  getting drunk. So I got hammered in my
• 1:25:09
  apartment and go out. After they lose the game, I'm
• 1:25:12
  hammering I'm in an angry state, but that game was, it's still
• 1:25:16
  the most heartbreaking one, because it wasn't anything, we
• 1:25:19
  did on field. It literally was the refs
• 1:25:22
  affected that OPI called goes, the opposite way.
• 1:25:26
  If it goes, yeah, they don't call it, we score a touchdown.
• 1:25:29
  I don't think USC comes back and takes a game.
• 1:25:32
  We've A lot more on here. Hold on we're going to be going
• 1:25:34
  over old dear brother. Nobody said Michigan Lee Hall
• 1:25:38
  represent Lee Hall represent. That was that was that was that
• 1:25:42
  was my wife storm in 2006 and 2007.
• 1:25:45
  So shout out Dale for the reference they're just so
• 1:25:48
  everybody. How Robbie basically was hurt
• 1:25:51
  until Tuesday of that game in that was only Labor Day weekend.
• 1:25:55
  USC, Brian dress job. Dustin Dale's with u BC.
• 1:26:00
  O 6. Oh yeah, that was that was.
• 1:26:04
  Yeah, I forgot about that, man. Good reference on again.
• 1:26:09
  This is why this is so much fun because we're drunk and it does
• 1:26:12
  just takes us in the fun places, all right?
• 1:26:16
  All right, so let's let's pull back when we get back, Curtis
• 1:26:20
  steers the ship unfortunately and when Curtis is drinking to
• 1:26:24
  sleep on steer. All right.
• 1:26:25
  Let's go into as you tell eidos how much I poured in my glass so
• 1:26:29
  you know, I'm not doing this shit, you scared him.
• 1:26:32
  You scared him. So, let's talk about this.
• 1:26:44
  Kind of evaluate him year one, you know, from he's been in the
• 1:26:50
  job. Now little over fifty four
• 1:26:52
  weeks. After year one Jeremy, what
• 1:26:57
  doesn't worry you about Britt Pratt.
• 1:26:59
  Being a head coach Virginia Tech.
• 1:27:01
  Ah well biggest thing he seems up in the change, he's a, he's
• 1:27:06
  okay, Switching midseason, which we didn't have a lot to lose but
• 1:27:10
  he's okay. Midseason is switching up the
• 1:27:12
  entire offensive scheme. I'm okay with that.
• 1:27:15
  Like that makes me happy. Also, what I'm doesn't worry me
• 1:27:20
  is, Mars came in late in the season and started.
• 1:27:24
  Conda fits in place and that turned out to be okay.
• 1:27:29
  And we were all kind of worried about that for a bit but turned
• 1:27:34
  out. Okay.
• 1:27:38
  I'm with you there I'm with you, there it will talk about that
• 1:27:42
  some more Eric on the backside here about whether or not price.
• 1:27:47
  Should've may be handing the keys over a little sooner in the
• 1:27:51
  season. Yes maybe tally.
• 1:27:55
  He tried to knock her up a little bit when he had other
• 1:27:58
  things that he wasn't used to the worried about, but we'll get
• 1:28:00
  into that later. All right.
• 1:28:01
  Well, I guess I would oh I don't know man I guess the know it's
• 1:28:06
  hard to say this but The loss is really didn't worry me this year
• 1:28:10
  because my expectations wasn't as high as some people.
• 1:28:13
  Okay. You feel me like yeah yeah yeah.
• 1:28:15
  I'm with the losses. We were definitely temper.
• 1:28:18
  You had more temperate and expectations as I think the
• 1:28:21
  majority of the fan base. If we're being, the thing is
• 1:28:25
  also with the losses. He was like he's still like put
• 1:28:29
  his dick on the table. You know what I'm saying?
• 1:28:31
  Yeah, you don't keep your man. Listen, he killed every enemy.
• 1:28:37
  View. You know it was like he was
• 1:28:39
  never like man fuck that coach you know I'm saying like if you
• 1:28:42
  are fan and you really watch the team but never like man fuck
• 1:28:45
  him. He ain't gonna be a good coach.
• 1:28:46
  You still was like damn I want to win but I think I know what
• 1:28:50
  he's trying to say. I think I know where the program
• 1:28:52
  is going. So that the long how he fucked
• 1:28:55
  up. Yeah and he didn't just come out
• 1:28:58
  and go gosh we didn't execute He was rich, but he's always been
• 1:29:09
  that way. He's like real open with his
• 1:29:11
  interviews and shit. And she is one, you know what
• 1:29:14
  I'm saying? Like, me being a car salesman,
• 1:29:16
  you have to be real genuine with people, and you can notice when
• 1:29:19
  people are genuine feels like when he is in interviews.
• 1:29:23
  He's very genuine with the stuff.
• 1:29:25
  He's saying even, you know, I know we're gonna get into
• 1:29:27
  recruiting and stuff. Oh, yeah and stuff that he says,
• 1:29:30
  to the kids seems very genuine. He's not promising anything that
• 1:29:36
  he can't produce. For him.
• 1:29:38
  Yeah. But he's telling them the truth,
• 1:29:39
  you know, hey, I'm recruiting a couple of people drop position.
• 1:29:44
  I think you can come in and make a difference but you got to come
• 1:29:47
  in with these other people during its oh shit.
• 1:29:49
  Like that was was was didn't worry me that the ales I guess?
• 1:29:54
  Yeah. I can tell you that about Pride.
• 1:29:56
  He is very genuine like if you talk to him in person or
• 1:29:59
  whatever he will make you feel like the most important person
• 1:30:02
  in the room and he's just he's got that he knows how he's got
• 1:30:07
  charisma. Asthma.
• 1:30:08
  He gets it. He gets it.
• 1:30:33
  you know, that Frank Knows that you want to talk to him.
• 1:30:39
  No. And he voiced the fact that you
• 1:30:41
  want to talk to him prize like that.
• 1:30:44
  Like he genuinely enjoys that you want to come up to him and
• 1:30:47
  say hello to him. Having seen him twice in person.
• 1:30:50
  Yeah, I 100% agree with that and we got the just in the few
• 1:30:54
  minutes at the Hardy would have been in literally he was before
• 1:30:57
  us he was talking with an older lady and he you could see he
• 1:31:00
  crafted it to make sure this is about her and her moment when we
• 1:31:04
  went up there, he was slamming beers with us, he chugged it.
• 1:31:07
  Here with us. It was just like these guys are
• 1:31:09
  here having fun. They want to have fun.
• 1:31:11
  The guy behind him was serious shook.
• 1:31:12
  His hand look, very concerned. So to that point.
• 1:31:15
  Yes. Why I'm not worried two things
• 1:31:18
  defensively. I think his scheme is going to
• 1:31:21
  attract some Talent there. Going to be some kids that come
• 1:31:24
  here that we're going to be like, how do we pull that?
• 1:31:27
  Like holy shit but the second piece goes to what tally said.
• 1:31:32
  He goes in their understanding. You do not brush your players,
• 1:31:37
  you don't throw them under the bus because the execution should
• 1:31:39
  immediately, says players. And he's basically it's that's
• 1:31:43
  on us coaches. You heard a lot of coaches
• 1:31:45
  coaches. It's basically how many times
• 1:31:48
  did he say? It's our job to get them ready.
• 1:31:50
  And we didn't do it. We didn't do the job right this
• 1:31:52
  week. And when you hear that, it's
• 1:31:54
  basically you're taking that ownership to like what you said,
• 1:31:58
  Talley we lost the game but you know what?
• 1:32:01
  He didn't third a player. Under the boss.
• 1:32:03
  He didn't say it was arrest fall, he put it on himself to
• 1:32:05
  say, I gotta be better and when you hear that as a fan and
• 1:32:09
  especially in this group right here, we watch a ton of games.
• 1:32:14
  You know, we do the podcast Jeremy's there, supporting the
• 1:32:17
  team, not only being in the city.
• 1:32:19
  Tally, you do your spaces, you've got Communications with
• 1:32:22
  so many people, that's a lot that goes, a long ways, Brian.
• 1:32:26
  I'm sorry, I got really a swarthy there, but Curtis
• 1:32:31
  getting worried know. No way.
• 1:32:32
  No no fucking way guys. Scotch the only the only known
• 1:32:37
  me 26 years. No fucking way.
• 1:32:39
  Curtis getting worthy. Nah man.
• 1:32:41
  Pontificate. So the thing that doesn't worry
• 1:32:46
  me is that? I've seen a staff that is
• 1:32:50
  willing to self-assess and then make changes.
• 1:32:56
  That's the thing, long term that's going to pay dividends
• 1:33:00
  for this staff because you're not always going to have the
• 1:33:04
  guys that can get it done. And I know this year is a
• 1:33:07
  particularly bad situation in that.
• 1:33:10
  You've got a roster that you were.
• 1:33:12
  Number one inherited. Number two, was probably in the
• 1:33:17
  bottom five in terms of overall roster talent in power 5, right?
• 1:33:24
  So, You're working with slim pickings. and there was a
• 1:33:30
  willingness to make changes as things goes a long and that's
• 1:33:33
  going to pay dividends I think long-term So that that's that's
• 1:33:37
  my big, that that doesn't worry me.
• 1:33:40
  If things aren't working Pride will make the adjustment.
• 1:33:45
  So what does were you wrong? What does where you going in?
• 1:33:49
  Because we were three, a what worries me is that when we look
• 1:33:53
  at the offense it took a lot of little bit longer than I wanted
• 1:33:59
  to to make some of those changes.
• 1:34:02
  So we look at the timetable, we need to look at.
• 1:34:07
  Okay, what is working? What isn't working and how can
• 1:34:10
  we make differences? And I said earlier, it's hard to
• 1:34:13
  make changes in midseason, but at the same time, if it's not
• 1:34:16
  working I don't want a wholesale philosophy changes, but I want
• 1:34:22
  to see tweaks and adjustments week to week, and I don't think
• 1:34:26
  we saw a enough of them soon enough in the season, where we
• 1:34:31
  can kind of build something in the back end, it took kind of
• 1:34:35
  getting to that bye week and making those adjustments, to
• 1:34:39
  where we kind of saw a little bit of a difference on the back
• 1:34:41
  end. So that would be my concern is
• 1:34:44
  that not quite evaluating quick enough.
• 1:34:48
  What is and what isn't working best for that scheme?
• 1:34:54
  Jeremy tally with concerns. Y'all got to who wants to go
• 1:34:57
  first. I mean that was my first one was
• 1:35:01
  offensive identity we have to find it and we may be recruiting
• 1:35:06
  people and bringing in transfer portal people to come in and try
• 1:35:12
  to change the identity but we have to find that identity first
• 1:35:16
  and my second thing is we have to start pulling in not just
• 1:35:20
  transfers. We have to start pulling in the
• 1:35:23
  top level recruits from our state and we'll get into that
• 1:35:26
  later. But Yeah, that's my to concerns
• 1:35:30
  that concern, you know kind of what Brian is saying and Jeremy
• 1:35:36
  as well. Was I feel like, you know, they
• 1:35:40
  have the identity that they want even if you watch I think the
• 1:35:45
  Liberty game it was saying, well this is what Virginia Tech
• 1:35:48
  should be. This is what Virginia Tech's,
• 1:35:50
  you beat good defense and then power football.
• 1:35:54
  So the lack of physicality was my concern because you Have five
• 1:35:59
  and six years in college football nowadays to get that
• 1:36:03
  and get it, right? It's like if you don't get it
• 1:36:05
  right going into this year we're fucked and coaching staff your
• 1:36:09
  fuck to because expectations will be high.
• 1:36:12
  No matter who you put on the field, I don't care if every
• 1:36:14
  starter breaks their leg, these fans want to see some wind, you
• 1:36:18
  know. So year to has to be much better
• 1:36:21
  than your one. And physically will we be there?
• 1:36:25
  If you go watch man's sword to lame.
• 1:36:27
  Play. You can see, he was in the right
• 1:36:32
  positions, a lot of times, he just wasn't physically gifted
• 1:36:36
  not gifted. He wasn't physically strong
• 1:36:38
  enough, but maybe man the ball away from the, from the office
• 1:36:42
  of player. That to get there in year two.
• 1:36:45
  We hope so cause he's got the technique, it has comes out to
• 1:36:49
  the weight room now. But I mean, he was like, yeah,
• 1:36:51
  that's a big Point. Their tally, I love this.
• 1:36:53
  It is a big love that point. I think he is given a few more
• 1:36:56
  years of time. I think I don't think you're
• 1:36:59
  looking at the three normal because I think what happened
• 1:37:02
  this year in the powers of being, a lot of the money makers
• 1:37:04
  saw. Holy God, we didn't have
• 1:37:07
  anything on this team. We'd have anything on this team.
• 1:37:10
  It's going to take a few extra years, but my more biggest CERN
• 1:37:15
  it might be already changing from what we've seen today was
• 1:37:19
  how he came in and build it. Like he just came in and we had
• 1:37:22
  five transfers last year. We did, we didn't bring in a big
• 1:37:26
  overhaul even though you felt like, that's what we needed.
• 1:37:29
  He didn't do that. Now it's changing this year.
• 1:37:32
  So maybe maybe the piece I'm worried about about, you know,
• 1:37:35
  we know, we know you need to lay a foundation and build it, but
• 1:37:39
  you should be able to as a head coach lay that foundation.
• 1:37:42
  With whoever you pull in because that's Your job, right?
• 1:37:45
  You've been to the salesman thing as a sales and you should
• 1:37:47
  know that guy. I know what he wants.
• 1:37:50
  I can get him here. I can make you feel this, right?
• 1:37:52
  I can make it feel. I can make it fit in so we're
• 1:37:55
  seeing it already with the number of portal guys.
• 1:37:57
  We've gotten already and what he said today about more common
• 1:38:00
  which were going to talk about later, Jeremy, you're really
• 1:38:03
  good at at ease. Thumbs up buddy, Jeremy knows
• 1:38:05
  how to tease what we're gonna talk about.
• 1:38:07
  Well, I'm Jeremy. So I'm Jared.
• 1:38:10
  So that's the concern of like my concern is started getting to
• 1:38:13
  leave. Where he started making those
• 1:38:15
  changes. He's changing his offseason
• 1:38:17
  philosophies already, and you've already seen it, he's not
• 1:38:20
  sticking with the status quote. We're looking at different
• 1:38:23
  quarterbacks we're looking at updating the ride receiver room.
• 1:38:26
  He's not just sitting there he's moving quickly.
• 1:38:29
  So yeah, now I'll say this, the next thing I want to talk about
• 1:38:35
  is how much do we think run the defense hurt his development of
• 1:38:38
  the game? Because I think it hurt him
• 1:38:39
  significantly because as you said it was later in the year,
• 1:38:43
  Marv started calling being more involved as we heard.
• 1:38:47
  We know he called the last game because Brian you have to tell
• 1:38:51
  them what you talked about observing on the sidelines of
• 1:38:56
  those last few games because it was just like it was night and
• 1:38:59
  day. You saw him all the time making
• 1:39:01
  notes making notes but you never saw him engaging players.
• 1:39:04
  He was making the notes and you thought that was really because
• 1:39:07
  of his duties as the DC for this year.
• 1:39:09
  Yeah, my beef was always. So I want my head.
• 1:39:13
  Coach. As soon as the group is coming
• 1:39:16
  off the field, I want my head coach engaging with them,
• 1:39:20
  talking about what they saw, what they didn't see what was
• 1:39:23
  working, what wasn't working. You can't do that.
• 1:39:25
  If you've got to turn around and call a defense with your
• 1:39:29
  offense, so, you're you're not as engaged with the offensive
• 1:39:32
  side of the ball. If you got to go ahead and call
• 1:39:35
  a defense, when you should be talking to your quarterback and
• 1:39:39
  say all right, what did you see? What did you see what was
• 1:39:42
  working? What's not working?
• 1:39:44
  Talking to the offensive line. Hey, we're they stunt in here,
• 1:39:48
  where they bring in some extra pressure here.
• 1:39:50
  Why was why did we miss a blitz pickup here?
• 1:39:54
  There's so many like interest either secrecies?
• 1:39:57
  That were not picked up because proud was focused on calling the
• 1:40:01
  defense. On the offensive side of the
• 1:40:04
  ball that I think could have potentially been alleviated as
• 1:40:08
  you going forward. Especially with a guy like your
• 1:40:10
  offensive coordinator up in the booth and pry on the sidelines,
• 1:40:13
  right? So that that was my biggest
• 1:40:16
  thing with that. What about y'all boys?
• 1:40:19
  What y'all think? I mean you're kind of wood you
• 1:40:23
  know to go off of what Brian was saying as well.
• 1:40:25
  I think a couple of times probably even said it.
• 1:40:29
  He said something to the effect that in yard don't quote me but
• 1:40:32
  he was like I mean we did we did what we could do.
• 1:40:35
  Speaking of the defense, we just needed some help.
• 1:40:38
  Well it ain't you not just the defense you did head coach.
• 1:40:41
  So shaming you gotta he was so focused on that defense and
• 1:40:47
  trying to get that defense right but I feel sometimes he put that
• 1:40:50
  offense into somebody else's hand and you see the difference.
• 1:40:53
  So when you see Marv, take over a little bit more towards the
• 1:40:58
  end. It was a it was good to see like
• 1:41:01
  you said, prior was Getting people, when they came off the
• 1:41:04
  field asking them, you know, hey what did you see?
• 1:41:07
  Things like that? Because as a head coach, I mean,
• 1:41:10
  especially a new head coach, somebody's been coaching a long
• 1:41:13
  time. They might, can we even work
• 1:41:16
  that, that those different angles, but a brand new head
• 1:41:19
  coach of the new at a new place? It's like, you got to be in tune
• 1:41:24
  with those guys when they're coming off, and he just didn't
• 1:41:26
  have enough time to do that. Trying to run that offense and
• 1:41:30
  run, run the game. Jeremy.
• 1:41:36
  Yeah, that was one of my biggest concerns in general was the fact
• 1:41:42
  that I love bra and probably has a lot of experience as
• 1:41:47
  coordinator. He was a new head coach and he
• 1:41:50
  is learning on the job and he also brought in a defensive
• 1:41:53
  coordinator to learn on the job who wasn't offensive coordinator
• 1:41:56
  before. So he felt the need to come down
• 1:41:59
  and do what he used to do and kind of micromanage and that
• 1:42:04
  inhibited his development as a head coach, but I think it's
• 1:42:10
  going to be. Alright, Mark did okay.
• 1:42:15
  I think it's going to be better from now on.
• 1:42:17
  What am I supposed to do? I don't have a crystal ball.
• 1:42:20
  I'm fucking hoping at this point.
• 1:42:22
  Damn, it is true. It's true.
• 1:42:25
  Look into your crystal ball. Jeremy, come on, man.
• 1:42:27
  That's something they're man. Well let me ask y'all fellas,
• 1:42:30
  mr. Jameson.
• 1:42:32
  What's he saying? All right.
• 1:42:33
  Look grand prize. Let's look at the next year.
• 1:42:37
  We hope to God. Remember what this episode and
• 1:43:15
  about minute 70. Jeremy blacks out for the rest
• 1:43:18
  of the episode. He said, let's face, but he
• 1:43:21
  blacks out, it was actually, with us for here was just like,
• 1:43:24
  is he? Okay, then he'd make a comment
• 1:43:26
  and be like, okay, that was okay, but he was fucked up, he
• 1:43:30
  was blindsided me. That's actually like my normal
• 1:43:35
  drinking, if it's not and it just, I had native Soldier.
• 1:43:39
  He's gotta eat some pizza, some cheeseburgers before this
• 1:43:42
  episode. Right, and a chili chili, what
• 1:43:53
  staff member impressed you most this year, anytime you can lead
• 1:43:58
  on this one? I don't know, man.
• 1:44:00
  I guess I like I like Mars. I mean, I got a cousin that that
• 1:44:04
  coaches High School football and he's pretty close with Mars.
• 1:44:08
  So I watch them really close this year.
• 1:44:11
  Just his interaction with the players.
• 1:44:14
  Different things you do. And I feel like when he got his
• 1:44:15
  shot he did what he was supposed to do him and fantails
• 1:44:19
  recruiting I guess. Like that's that's what
• 1:44:21
  impressed me those motherfuckers Relentless fine.
• 1:44:25
  Detail is locked up the a do for you.
• 1:44:28
  And we're going to talk about that.
• 1:44:29
  After I said, I know we getting into that that recruiting to be
• 1:44:32
  getting close to recruit. I gotta give him his crop
• 1:44:35
  Jeremy. That's actually mine pick to
• 1:44:38
  Marfa dead on impressed. I'm really happy.
• 1:44:43
  With the thing with the way things are going.
• 1:44:47
  What else can you say that? It's straight up Marv right now
• 1:44:52
  the rest of our position groups, it's going to take some time but
• 1:44:58
  Hey Robert. I like you.
• 1:45:00
  Yeah. Just so, you know, Jeremy, that
• 1:45:04
  is a buddy of ours since we were in middle school.
• 1:45:07
  He was in my wedding, he's been a friend, he played football
• 1:45:10
  with. See you will meet him soon.
• 1:45:12
  When we get up to Blacksburg, going to bring out, he's
• 1:45:14
  coaching football down and Carolina right now.
• 1:45:17
  Nice little jump on this one X and I'm gonna go a little
• 1:45:20
  sideways. Give me Pearson Prelude.
• 1:45:22
  You know why that sumbitch hadn't coached a Collegiate game
• 1:45:27
  until this year? And you all take a look at the
• 1:45:30
  safety group from this year to last year, we took a step up the
• 1:45:34
  waste Roman plate, people's had his best season ever.
• 1:45:36
  Connor look better and you also have a guy who has all the
• 1:45:41
  excuse of tech guy he's Tech through and through he loves the
• 1:45:45
  place. He literally retired from the
• 1:45:46
  NFL and moved back to Radford to coach High School, to be closer
• 1:45:50
  to the program, then he gets involved with the Player
• 1:45:53
  Development. And then he gets involved with
• 1:45:56
  the coaching itself and it's already.
• 1:45:59
  Already. I'm to my own horn.
• 1:46:01
  Thanks, Matt. Neal had been jumping up and you
• 1:46:06
  think about his personality. And then you think about him
• 1:46:09
  walking around with Jill, the Bullring in other rings and Big
• 1:46:14
  East title rings and a Super Bowl rings talking to kids about
• 1:46:18
  come here. Play for me, you can plainly 14
• 1:46:22
  years. See last night Mom, other than
• 1:46:27
  Curtis sucking, his own dick there a little bit, I'm gonna go
• 1:46:32
  with, I'm gonna go with cheetah here because I feel like for the
• 1:46:36
  23 class, we got a good class coming in that is very cheetah
• 1:46:41
  focused. Combine that with the delaying
• 1:46:47
  numbers that were put up in year, one to me.
• 1:46:52
  That's the answer for me. So get give me cheating by a
• 1:46:56
  hair. I like what Curtis did with with
• 1:46:58
  Prelude though because Prelude went out there and fuck some
• 1:47:02
  shit up. And if we're going to be honest,
• 1:47:04
  I'm going to go with Talia a little bit here.
• 1:47:06
  Mine's went out there and crush the recruiting this year.
• 1:47:10
  Have you locked up the 804? We're going to talk about that
• 1:47:13
  more after the break. We are going to talk about that
• 1:47:14
  a lot more after the break. All right, who's hot?
• 1:47:18
  I mean, I think it's gonna be easy but who's hot, who's on the
• 1:47:21
  hot seat or who is who's got him?
• 1:47:23
  Souvenir to special teams coach. Who's do you hope still got?
• 1:47:29
  I agree, still, you got to get your shit together.
• 1:47:34
  We going to turn you into a stoop.
• 1:47:37
  All right, get your shit together.
• 1:47:40
  I don't need no motherfucking people fucking returning kicks
• 1:47:43
  on us and we need to be returning.
• 1:47:45
  Some kids, get your shit together.
• 1:47:48
  Well he had the nuts to put a true freshman upon to put on
• 1:47:51
  punt return. Later cheese, Did he might as
• 1:47:54
  well listen that takes balls of that and no disrespect to none
• 1:48:00
  of the players because I know those players fucking work hard.
• 1:48:03
  I'll be there. Most of the balls for sure.
• 1:48:05
  It must listen. If you ever put somebody like
• 1:48:09
  Jalen hosting pack their return kicks on my team, he is a power
• 1:48:17
  back drinking here. Okay, no, no one.
• 1:48:33
  They're coming into a fucking College
• 1:48:50
  while he goes around to or something.
• 1:48:53
  So Every one of them.
• 1:49:33
  You're right, you're fucking right, he's lying.
• 1:49:37
  He no, no. See, I know Robin.
• 1:50:08
  And things like that. So all right, so this is what
• 1:50:27
  we're Going to do now you have not, let me get one elf.
• 1:50:42
  No, it's got to be, it's got to be stew whole because other than
• 1:50:46
  making the Tucker Holloway deal work.
• 1:50:50
  I don't think we did a whole lot on special teams that made us
• 1:50:52
  better this year. Combine that with the fact that
• 1:50:55
  I know he was working with some injured situations in the
• 1:50:58
  backfield, but we saw way too much and all respect to him.
• 1:51:03
  We saw way too much. Jalen Holston this year for this
• 1:51:07
  to be a successful running back rotation.
• 1:51:10
  It's to hold has something to prove in year.
• 1:51:12
  Two, he does have something to show you in real to as a special
• 1:51:15
  teams coach running back coach. He was screwed.
• 1:51:18
  I mean good Lord, they put Bryce Juke out there.
• 1:51:20
  They burned all his red shirt and came back there.
• 1:51:23
  It's where do you mean? What's up?
• 1:51:26
  Be D? Squared u mean be B squared.
• 1:51:32
  Use the dick named Curtis BD brass Duke to be priced you guys
• 1:51:39
  a future. You want to say, but somebody
• 1:51:41
  put it on here earlier and this is me.
• 1:51:44
  What happens when you get 6,000 homage.
• 1:51:46
  By the way, I love the comment. Somebody talked about the
• 1:51:48
  regression of Peter Moore. Yeah, Peter Moore it look like
• 1:51:52
  he was like that too. What but but what does he led?
• 1:51:57
  The gay. So he we started the games,
• 1:51:59
  really good. And then like second and third
• 1:52:02
  quarter you will fall off the fucking map and then he like
• 1:52:05
  figure it out and fourth quarter so who the hell knows.
• 1:52:09
  But so we No One Technical and I Hot Seat but it's like do
• 1:52:13
  better. Do better?
• 1:52:15
  Yeah. All right so before we begin at
• 1:52:17
  least seven games in year two and no one's on the fucking hot
• 1:52:20
  seat. Hold on, hold on.
• 1:52:22
  By the way, Matt Neal is taking credit for that, that was him
• 1:52:26
  that talked about the Peter more.
• 1:52:27
  Sorry, Matt I could not find the comment but thank you for
• 1:52:30
  acknowledging. It was you we know we love you,
• 1:52:32
  alright, so before we get into the fun stuff so we went through
• 1:52:35
  the critical shit but we're going to go in today, we're
• 1:52:38
  going to talk about national Signing Day the Class the
• 1:52:41
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• 1:52:43
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  Now back to the episode All right, we are back Jeremy's
• 1:53:12
  disappeared. I should have disappeared to but
• 1:53:15
  you know, it is what it is. Maybe I'll just appear in a few
• 1:53:17
  minutes. Some turn the camera off for a
• 1:53:19
  second, but let's be for real. Let's go into recruiting and
• 1:53:23
  let's go just kind of look high level everything today, I want
• 1:53:26
  to take a get first of all y'all's opinions.
• 1:53:28
  Did y'all see the like the did y'all like the recruiting set
• 1:53:31
  up? The way they did it today with
• 1:53:33
  having the podium different members?
• 1:53:35
  It was I know bud was on four braids on which to me that was
• 1:53:38
  super special Bud coach. The sun's coming here, you had
• 1:53:42
  members of the you had members of The Faculty members of the
• 1:53:45
  athletic, you know, staff calling these guys.
• 1:53:48
  Did y'all like that? So because to me, they may
• 1:53:51
  signing. They feel fucking important
• 1:53:53
  like, right? This is, this is important for
• 1:53:55
  you guys. What you got tally?
• 1:53:57
  Yeah, I was, I was a little disappointed at first at the
• 1:54:00
  beginning of the morning because I mean, the graphics didn't look
• 1:54:05
  bad but with Justin have music and I feel like we could have
• 1:54:08
  did some other stuff with it, but Then when I seen the setup,
• 1:54:12
  I was like, okay, this is I not just for the fans but the big
• 1:54:17
  money donors was there as well. You know, they got that.
• 1:54:20
  They got the, they got the whip kind of prank was that?
• 1:54:24
  I had to pee, too. We got with Jeremy.
• 1:54:41
  This is good because you got fans involved as us what
• 1:54:46
  watching you got. The big money, donors and in
• 1:54:51
  faculty involved, you got players families, high schools
• 1:54:57
  involved because you got them on the screen.
• 1:55:00
  So you made it about more than just the coaching staff or even
• 1:55:05
  just to player players had their moments, but their families was
• 1:55:08
  there as well. And you can see the coaches
• 1:55:10
  interacting with the families which was awesome.
• 1:55:13
  Can you see why they recruited? Well, yeah.
• 1:55:16
  Well, you think about that set up today inside Merriman there?
• 1:55:19
  R. It was incredible, the pageantry
• 1:55:23
  of it all, like, it's great. We brought everyone and we had
• 1:55:28
  the entire setup, you can tell most of the coaches, they were
• 1:55:31
  not ready for that early morning bud.
• 1:55:34
  Look like he just crawled out of bed after a long day.
• 1:55:37
  Damn, holy shit. He looked like you looking at me
• 1:55:40
  waking up at 9 a.m. like what the fuck and everyone just comes
• 1:55:45
  out because it's that important it was like one of those like
• 1:55:49
  Things that you do. It was almost like Christmas
• 1:55:51
  morning where you crawl out and you're just like done but you're
• 1:55:56
  in it and it just like yes, this is important.
• 1:55:59
  And so they do that and they bring up the families on the
• 1:56:01
  screen, they bring up the kids. And we act like this is such a
• 1:56:06
  big moment because it is and we give them that kind of Gravitas
• 1:56:13
  wonder, what is it because they deserve it and that that makes
• 1:56:20
  me happy. I love the way we did it.
• 1:56:23
  It makes me happy that we do that for these kids, because in
• 1:56:25
  the end, he's our kids and it makes me mad.
• 1:56:27
  Whenever people are just like, no, no, don't call them kids.
• 1:56:30
  There are men there. No, these are these, your kids
• 1:56:34
  know, they love this and they need to feel important.
• 1:56:39
  I love this right here. They mentioned the the High
• 1:56:42
  School coaches by name and stuff like that and that's that's
• 1:56:45
  their relationship. He strike that we did, everybody
• 1:56:48
  that all of us who have met pry or reading about pry.
• 1:56:51
  It's like, it's the building of relationships because that's
• 1:56:55
  that ultimate point to y'all's point, which I'll just said it's
• 1:56:57
  like, it wasn't just that player on the screen, right?
• 1:56:59
  They could have did the announcement, but just the
• 1:57:02
  player, they put the family, they put the coach, they put the
• 1:57:05
  whole high school, it's like this one.
• 1:57:07
  One holding compass and thing. I think the setup was very I
• 1:57:09
  think the concept was great. I think they hit it.
• 1:57:12
  Yeah, the videos in the morning that didn't have the audio.
• 1:57:15
  It was like the graphics were cool.
• 1:57:17
  I like that. But it was almost like, you
• 1:57:19
  forgot, I forgot the music. You've Got the Music.
• 1:57:22
  Another thing to take sign round was trying to, they actually
• 1:57:26
  have some nice breakdowns on a couple of players.
• 1:57:29
  Yeah. Some of their stuff wasn't
• 1:57:31
  working, but they have some nice shit.
• 1:57:33
  I'm gonna put that on Twitter because I talked about it on the
• 1:57:37
  chat. Because they were talking about.
• 1:57:39
  It wasn't working but like someone was like, oh yeah, it's
• 1:57:42
  certain number of seconds of a video shouldn't upload.
• 1:57:46
  Probably, it's 22 minutes and 10 seconds.
• 1:57:48
  Everything they had was under two minutes, right?
• 1:57:51
  Twitter was fucking up. Yeah, it was.
• 1:57:53
  So that was on Twitter, that wasn't on what textile I was
• 1:57:57
  trying to do. So Props attack Sidelines for
• 1:57:59
  what they were trying to do this morning because that was going
• 1:58:02
  to be really good with what Chris Coleman was Brady's Ranch
• 1:58:04
  berries player. If they kind of went through,
• 1:58:06
  that was going to be Yeah, really good setup.
• 1:58:09
  I hope they seem to take Sidelines for that.
• 1:58:12
  The other thing was I love this set of it.
• 1:58:14
  If we've dealt in the past where it felt like it was, you get
• 1:58:19
  like a handful at the beginning, a bunch of the beginning, then
• 1:58:21
  it'd be like hours and then you get some more.
• 1:58:24
  And then now it sounded like what they did is they said
• 1:58:27
  everybody send the nli and here's how we're going to do it.
• 1:58:30
  We're going to do everything, like 15-20 minutes.
• 1:58:32
  It was like Teddy. It was said, I had whatever it
• 1:58:35
  was whatever was becoming hand put out.
• 1:58:37
  It's been every 10 minutes. There's gotta be a becoming a
• 1:58:40
  shout out. David.
• 1:58:42
  Y'all, y'all think David would. Come on here and get drunk with
• 1:58:45
  us. David would absolutely go in
• 1:58:47
  here and get drunk with us. Good, maybe it matters.
• 1:58:50
  You bring indecent. It depends.
• 1:58:52
  I see. Let's bring in DC.
• 1:58:54
  I love me. See.
• 1:58:55
  All right, let's talk about it this thing because we've got a
• 1:58:58
  bunch of guys we can talk about, but we're going to hit the guys
• 1:59:01
  that we just got this week. The first one and I tell you,
• 1:59:04
  the second highest rated kid in this class.
• 1:59:07
  Exchange Fitzgerald, six with 385 pound kid out of Nolensville
• 1:59:12
  Tennessee. A 3-star high priest or
• 1:59:15
  borderline for Oklahoma State and Auburn bunch of teams,
• 1:59:19
  offered this kid got compared to Gabriel Davis with the bills
• 1:59:23
  gave Davis was on my fantasy team this year, and one of them
• 1:59:26
  he helped me out a lot. Sorry.
• 1:59:28
  Curtis Well, I mean not on that League.
• 1:59:31
  Another lynnie fantasy piece of signing day.
• 1:59:41
  I mean, y'all got anything on this kid from what y'all seen or
• 1:59:46
  what y'all heard besides. I like both of the you know
• 1:59:51
  we're going to talk about them but I like both of the receivers
• 1:59:54
  that we picked up at the end of the cycle.
• 1:59:56
  Yeah. Yeah, 18 green and and him
• 1:59:59
  pretty nice. I think, from what I seen, I
• 2:00:03
  haven't watched a ton of him but Fitzgerald seems to be more
• 2:00:08
  College ready just because of his body.
• 2:00:13
  Green looks a little thin but greens earlier rolling as well
• 2:00:16
  so he may get a chance before Fitzgerald but I like Fitzgerald
• 2:00:21
  he that's a nice pickup, definitely a nice pickup.
• 2:00:25
  That's a that's a big. Steel to Jeremy.
• 2:00:28
  You probably saw it. I know you follow close.
• 2:00:30
  I mean, they went to war with some big boys to land chance.
• 2:00:35
  Yes, they did. That was actually my biggest
• 2:00:37
  point with chance is, if we can win these recruiting Wars, that
• 2:00:41
  is excellent. I can't evaluate wide receivers,
• 2:00:48
  I don't know how to do that. Fair enough, he was really
• 2:00:51
  getting this VM that I watched that.
• 2:00:54
  My entire thing is he looked Exceptional in this film.
• 2:00:59
  And on top of that, there were a lot of big boys out there trying
• 2:01:03
  to get him and we got him so good land.
• 2:01:08
  Yeah, I mean Fitzgerald I feel like is the most like if you had
• 2:01:12
  to say a receiver that was going to play today, Fitzgerald was
• 2:01:16
  the guy. To me that that that's my
• 2:01:20
  assessment of this class for sure.
• 2:01:22
  Good to say it was gonna start right now.
• 2:01:26
  Today for this team going to 2023 Fitzgerald is that do
• 2:01:31
  right? Because that's why we're seeing
• 2:01:34
  is we have you know that we have on the on the team still are not
• 2:01:39
  that far ahead of what he is from what we see, physically
• 2:01:42
  know, physically know the other physically know, I thought the
• 2:01:45
  same thing, you're not even, I know we're going.
• 2:01:49
  We got a couple other things to talk about as far as recruiting
• 2:01:51
  goes but even like y'all are saying just watching.
• 2:01:56
  Like we usually we'd have all of our players before what fucking
• 2:02:00
  August. We have all of our players with
• 2:02:03
  more this and then we're sitting around waiting for signing day
• 2:02:08
  to see if anybody's going to take somebody from us.
• 2:02:11
  So for us to go like hard that last week and be like, okay,
• 2:02:15
  fuck it. Let's now let's add some people
• 2:02:17
  to the party. And not not and it wasn't just
• 2:02:20
  people that was you know, going to Grambling State now.
• 2:02:24
  It was they had some big-time offers we was okay to.
• 2:02:28
  He was okay to fight with some big boys.
• 2:02:29
  I was happy about that and that looks right.
• 2:02:32
  I think that's the one thing about this staff that we can say
• 2:02:35
  is when it comes to going to war with a big boy, they don't stop.
• 2:02:39
  They do not stop. They keep their not intimidated,
• 2:02:41
  they're not they just say, well I think it's also because you
• 2:02:44
  have a group go back, I had a conversation with a guy at work
• 2:02:48
  today Day Nebraska paint. And y'all can say how to hell is
• 2:02:52
  he's actually from the 75 who came to Nebraska fan.
• 2:02:55
  Uncle played their love this guy to death, always talk with him
• 2:02:59
  about football at work, but he talked about and it resonated
• 2:03:03
  with me talking about Texel coaching staff about, he tried
• 2:03:06
  to bring everybody with him. When in reality you need to find
• 2:03:11
  dogs guys that know this profession guys that have been
• 2:03:14
  at the P5 level that know how to scrap fight get. 30.
• 2:03:19
  If you need to know areas and know how to attack and you will
• 2:03:23
  get your staff at a hole. And I know we criticized you, we
• 2:03:25
  know he wants to get better, we feel student, get better because
• 2:03:28
  he has had some excellent special teams in the past.
• 2:03:30
  We know Tyler bowling can do better because the pedigree he's
• 2:03:33
  come from. They use offensive and put up
• 2:03:35
  numbers. But we sit here and it's like
• 2:03:38
  this Dad. I don't think quits.
• 2:03:40
  I think they're still texting and I think y'all talk about
• 2:03:43
  fontelle minds earlier, I think fontelle mines has been texting
• 2:03:47
  Ali Jennings. Ever since he left ever since
• 2:03:52
  fontelle left OT, you probably kept in touch with that kid.
• 2:03:55
  That's why I'm saying wait until year three.
• 2:03:57
  Yep and you're firing me was like listen three years for
• 2:04:00
  everybody exactly. Now let's go to this guy next
• 2:04:04
  because the last time before this week we saw this guy had
• 2:04:08
  tally me and you got two hats. He took our hats and kind of
• 2:04:10
  went through it to the side but Antonio cotton, eyed him.
• 2:04:15
  It was it was his nephew. It was his nephew do.
• 2:04:19
  Nephew do that. Don't know if you don't so
• 2:04:22
  Antonio, Cotman decompress from BC and then, and he just a few
• 2:04:28
  days ago commits to Virginia, Tech six-foot-two, 190 Life,
• 2:04:33
  Christian Academy. Brian.
• 2:04:35
  What are you seeing from him on the just the tape in general,
• 2:04:39
  anybody sighs, right? I think I like this guy's a box
• 2:04:43
  safety or Sam linebacker. I can really see him excelling
• 2:04:47
  at that role. I don't think he's going to be a
• 2:04:50
  quarterback at the power 5 level, but I think the
• 2:04:53
  athleticism he has, he can be a Shamari Connor, tight safety or
• 2:04:58
  fit in very very well at the Sam linebacker position.
• 2:05:01
  So I really like this pickup long term in solidifying, those
• 2:05:06
  two positions. Yeah, probably what you got
• 2:05:11
  grief. I mean, I was on Cottman early
• 2:05:14
  just because its body size, you know, came took some pictures.
• 2:05:18
  I didn't really know much about him.
• 2:05:19
  I just think they bought brought a big group.
• 2:05:22
  It was maybe I don't know. 2020 2021.
• 2:05:26
  Yeah. First time I seen him and I was
• 2:05:28
  like damn it. This nice-looking kid for him to
• 2:05:30
  be a sophomore, junior in high school and was on him for a
• 2:05:34
  while. And I know he came and they roll
• 2:05:38
  the red. For my man, they had him talking
• 2:05:41
  Edmunds Brothers. I think he was talking to the
• 2:05:43
  full of Brothers, the early this year.
• 2:05:45
  Both. Oh yeah.
• 2:05:47
  So it was like okay this is what the staff is trying to do that.
• 2:05:52
  Trying to get the roots back in the Virginia is a Virginia kid.
• 2:05:55
  Who's ranked higher they had that they did everything right.
• 2:06:01
  And then for whatever reason he goes and commits to Boston
• 2:06:05
  College old staff, what would happen is over.
• 2:06:08
  Or with somebody through the Hat down, we're done.
• 2:06:12
  You hurt our feelings. You went to the dance with
• 2:06:15
  somebody else. Fuck you.
• 2:06:16
  That's what it would have be IT staff.
• 2:06:18
  Now I'm no inside of, but, you know, when you you around
• 2:06:21
  enough, you hear stuff, you heard people talking about even
• 2:06:26
  when we played Boston College caught me and came to the game.
• 2:06:29
  Had him to the game. Yeah.
• 2:06:44
  because stuff like that, no matter how much dividends and
• 2:06:48
  pays on the field, me and relentless on the recruiting
• 2:06:53
  Trail, like they did on that recruit is going to it's going
• 2:06:59
  to win you some games, it's going to win you some schools
• 2:07:02
  because people was watching that no matter how we feel about
• 2:07:05
  certain players, People in those areas, pay attention to those
• 2:07:09
  kids, man. So I think that I think that
• 2:07:12
  just that recruitment was probably like the one that I
• 2:07:16
  watched the closest and was like, okay damn.
• 2:07:19
  Like we, we really trying to do something so that was awesome.
• 2:07:23
  I feel good about that Jeremy. What you got?
• 2:07:29
  No, he's right. I did not like the Hat throat.
• 2:07:34
  None of us did. Well, looks good.
• 2:07:41
  One of my favorite things ever is the reverse half through that
• 2:07:46
  one of our people did. Yeah, where Yeah.
• 2:07:56
  It's one of those things where it was going off, doing whatever
• 2:08:00
  and we showed him exactly the support and the infrastructure
• 2:08:05
  and everything we could do for him and it ended up going.
• 2:08:10
  All right it did that sound good I'm happy with him.
• 2:08:14
  I think he's a great talent and I'm glad to have him but I will
• 2:08:18
  always remember that Heather everybody.
• 2:08:25
  There we go. There we go.
• 2:08:26
  By the way. Matt Neal says we're glad.
• 2:08:29
  You're going straight mason jar for the second half hour here.
• 2:08:31
  And what are you doing? Our second hour and a half?
• 2:08:40
  Straight to the bottle, baby. I hit water and an hour and a
• 2:08:42
  half. Man, you better go.
• 2:08:47
  Let's talk Curtis, you know, how I can handle my liquor, man.
• 2:08:51
  I know you can't hide. Jameson time, man.
• 2:09:04
  Go ahead and dive in Jeremy. Not yet.
• 2:09:08
  Jesus Christ, man, your fingers. Do it most most look at, Ellen
• 2:09:19
  doesn't know most fellows. They have that Moonshine
• 2:09:25
  moonshine, we put it up again. Why not?
• 2:09:31
  Why not - not moonshine. Most Philip Cane Ridge.
• 2:09:41
  High School. Antioch.
• 2:09:43
  Tennessee 63. 190 listed as a safety.
• 2:09:47
  Not a big list. Just techno Georgia, Tech Toledo
• 2:09:52
  and Tulane. I like the last two offers
• 2:09:55
  though Toledo. One the Mac.
• 2:09:57
  Yes. Year to Lane one, the AAC this
• 2:09:59
  year, that is to upper level G, five schools that like they're
• 2:10:04
  looking for guys that they can develop.
• 2:10:07
  I'm always start with seagull, ksiegel always looks at
• 2:10:09
  highlights and he played football and he coached football
• 2:10:13
  and a Collegiate level. So what are you seeing from?
• 2:10:16
  Mr. Phillips, I see a motherfucker to likes to hit and
• 2:10:20
  I think he's going to be a big asset on special teams out
• 2:10:23
  there. Whether he develops into a
• 2:10:26
  player that we can see in the to beat of that defense is going to
• 2:10:30
  be the question mark. But this is a guy that can
• 2:10:33
  contribute potentially day one but at least by year two on
• 2:10:38
  special teams for us. So we'll see if he ends up.
• 2:10:41
  You know taking one of those those travel Squad spots.
• 2:10:44
  A a tally. How close is Antioch to Bama
• 2:10:51
  main railroad? I don't know, maybe about three
• 2:10:53
  hours. It's okay.
• 2:10:55
  All right, so it's I'm just trying to get the location.
• 2:10:58
  It's in the ballpark then. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 2:11:01
  So I mean, any feels on this Edition is one of those.
• 2:11:04
  It was late because when you see a guy like this, y'all is it?
• 2:11:09
  The first thing you think about is, was this guy like 5 foot 11,
• 2:11:14
  18 months ago and then all of a sudden his junior year.
• 2:11:18
  He had a growth spurt and went like, oh, he's 63 190 pounds.
• 2:11:21
  Now, let's see. This kid.
• 2:11:27
  Yes, I don't know, man. It was it.
• 2:11:29
  That was a little I don't know, kind of threw me for a loop.
• 2:11:33
  I guess the offer and everything but scared of commitment.
• 2:11:36
  But I mean, I guess the good thing about integrating online.
• 2:11:38
  Watch the tunnel film. I did see kid does, like the
• 2:11:41
  hit. I mean, he's a coach's son.
• 2:11:43
  That's always pretty good. Yeah, I do like that part of it,
• 2:11:47
  but I don't know much about him. Like you said, I think he may be
• 2:11:50
  a special teams player but sometimes you got to take a
• 2:11:53
  chance on people man you know fuck it.
• 2:11:56
  But when you got Robbie hola I say,
• 2:12:47
  I'm mr. Phillips.
• 2:12:50
  Moo's Phillips. Most most Phillips you gathered.
• 2:12:53
  Yes. I know I Tell me what honestly
• 2:12:58
  did not know him until earlier today, until he did this.
• 2:13:03
  And I'm glad we got him. And I believe in our people,
• 2:13:06
  that's all I can say. First of all, also store to come
• 2:13:09
  later on that and then Alyssa Aisha out here.
• 2:13:13
  We both at the same time, run, that's a fair question.
• 2:13:19
  That's a fair question. Not everyone, turned it over
• 2:13:59
  with money, Waffle House. Like, during the day, like this
• 2:14:03
  are never, if it's before 11 p.m., I don't eat at Waffle
• 2:14:08
  House. I don't think I fucking never a
• 2:14:10
  to Waffle House like during the day like the crazy 7:00 and
• 2:14:14
  10:00 in the morning. Yeah, I mean, I think I've been
• 2:14:19
  that one in 1980 after drinks, all kind of video.
• 2:14:27
  Yeah, for sure and Joe's Diner. Joe, let me throw it back and
• 2:14:35
  also early morning, if you want a quick delivery like in your in
• 2:14:40
  Blacksburg just order from Jim's.
• 2:14:42
  All right, just get it. It's also throw one back on
• 2:14:45
  here. Chris Morena, I won't throw one
• 2:14:46
  back on. I'm sorry.
• 2:14:47
  Curtis, I can't, I can't hear you.
• 2:14:49
  Can you hear me a bitch? Call the fuck.
• 2:14:52
  You're so low compared to everyone else.
• 2:14:54
  How about now? It doesn't interrupt me when I'm
• 2:14:56
  mid or hear me. Can you hear me now?
• 2:14:59
  Yes, that's where we go. Gummy's at 380.
• 2:15:02
  Mm, don't be bringing him Gumby's at 3.
• 2:15:07
  A.m. Jeremy Gumby.
• 2:15:11
  Is what is Gummies at 3 a.m. Wait, so here we go.
• 2:16:01
  Just overall feels on 2023. We're going to probably end up
• 2:16:05
  somewhere between 3035. How y'all feeling in general
• 2:16:09
  about this class actually have to have a three in each season
• 2:16:13
  from the pretty good. I'm feeling pretty good about
• 2:16:15
  it. I mean I ain't gonna you know,
• 2:16:17
  say man is greatest thing ever. You know, I feel like I really
• 2:16:22
  want it. I don't know.
• 2:16:23
  One of the top kids out of Virginia.
• 2:16:26
  Maybe maybe flip somebody. You know, from Virginia like
• 2:16:30
  that but I mean, for the season we had, I'm good, I think I'm
• 2:16:35
  okay with it, earns more, I'm happy we have a while ago.
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  We are a long way from Thomas Jones.
• 2:16:52
  You Kevin Jones coming up Thomas Jones, he played for UVA living,
• 2:16:58
  ya know it. Kevin Jones came up out of
• 2:17:03
  nowhere and was just like, I want to play for you.
• 2:17:05
  We weren't even fucking recruiting him.
• 2:17:07
  One of the fucking recruits ever came out of nowhere.
• 2:17:11
  We're a long way away from that, but we are making Right.
• 2:17:17
  Yep. Yep.
• 2:17:18
  That's the way I feel about it too.
• 2:17:20
  And I think a lot of the stuff that goes on with this class and
• 2:17:23
  a couple things were going here in a second.
• 2:17:25
  I'm is big but I think Brian. I mean Braun said it roughly
• 2:17:31
  fifty forty eight weeks ago if we're between 35 and 30, I'm
• 2:17:35
  happy. I think we're 30.
• 2:17:37
  Let me get it up here. Hold on 34.
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  As of end of today, if I recall correctly, 34, correct, 34.
• 2:17:44
  As of end of today, And it's probably not going to be
• 2:17:48
  changing too too much. It's going to change amongst the
• 2:17:51
  top, boys, a little bit but that's probably where we're
• 2:17:54
  saying I'm 37 now but composite 35.
• 2:17:59
  So cam Cobb there's can we shut off cam cam?
• 2:18:04
  Cam Cobb, he likes to be dated when he wants to be, but he has
• 2:18:09
  been on the quantum Felton train and he has shown love to the
• 2:18:14
  staff for real. I'm right there with him to be
• 2:18:18
  honest. Anyway, the video the really did
• 2:18:21
  the video. I think the way we wrap this
• 2:18:23
  thing up as been pretty fucking solid.
• 2:18:27
  Yeah. We're at the the way we closed
• 2:18:30
  on to good wide receiver prospects for this class.
• 2:18:34
  We had a good fucking transfer in the skill positions that we
• 2:18:39
  need to address, hold it around to address.
• 2:18:42
  We still going to address some d-line, we stake out a dress
• 2:18:44
  them o line but but the way we address, the skill positions, in
• 2:18:48
  the transfer port on the way we closed out the 2023 class, I
• 2:18:52
  like where we're heading. Can I say one thing?
• 2:18:55
  Can we get 20 Ezekiel 1 bushes to walk on every year?
• 2:19:00
  No, seriously, really? Seriously?
• 2:19:02
  Yeah, motherfucker. Right.
• 2:19:06
  Amount of kids to walk on every freaking year, I mean that kids
• 2:19:09
  got offers all over to the G5 and he's gonna walk on here is a
• 2:19:12
  six foot three, half back up out of stone bridge.
• 2:19:16
  He's a damn good football program.
• 2:19:18
  That says a lot of should have had a recruiting Because
• 2:19:21
  Stonebridge up. There we go.
• 2:19:23
  I was one of their big song got came from.
• 2:19:26
  That's the own gang sound. Yeah, that's why I said, tell
• 2:19:29
  Miss Jones because it's a whole thing with yeah, where I do.
• 2:19:32
  What you're saying? Hey
• 2:19:45
  I know but I mean Talked about this before.
• 2:19:48
  My high school coach is a big fucking EV a guy.
• 2:19:51
  So we were at the fucking like, postseason celebrating the
• 2:19:55
  season shit at UVA and I'm like, the only Tech Guy.
• 2:19:59
  They're one of the few Tech guys are with brown Wilkerson, and we
• 2:20:02
  were like talking mad shit and everybody was shitting on
• 2:20:06
  Michael Vick, but on the fucking Jumbotron at UVA is the fucking
• 2:20:10
  miracle at Morgantown in fucking Charlottesville, and I'm talking
• 2:20:15
  my shit and Ow, Wilkerson is talking to his shit and like, it
• 2:20:19
  was, it was fucking great. That's that's one of the best
• 2:20:22
  fucking stories y'all ever got, dude.
• 2:20:24
  Seriously, when that happened that day in 1999.
• 2:20:29
  All right. So, Georgia Tech at UVA.
• 2:20:31
  All right, Interruption Interruption, what NFL athlete?
• 2:20:35
  Did you all ever play against nobody in high school?
• 2:20:39
  Oh god. Oh, hang on.
• 2:20:44
  Fucking right. God damn, what's his name?
• 2:20:49
  The damn detailer. When you asked me earlier the
• 2:20:51
  fucking night out, I had some shit for you UVA.
• 2:20:56
  Tackle that played at from 0 3, 2005 and UVA.
• 2:21:04
  Then the British all know the father, fucking white kid from
• 2:21:09
  Lynchburg from EC glass of the glass kit.
• 2:21:12
  Oh no, you didn't play again ink.
• 2:21:15
  I played against King, man. Yeah, I played against King but
• 2:21:18
  only one year. King King was a fucking dominant
• 2:21:22
  defensive end dominant tight end.
• 2:21:26
  And then he was a fucking like next-level punter that year for
• 2:21:30
  prefer Pulaski. That's awesome.
• 2:21:35
  All right, but let's talk about some other shit about the
• 2:21:39
  company as we have the Clemson. Oh yeah.
• 2:22:03
  You know what against Justin Hamilton and put Miller meet Ali
• 2:22:08
  over here, like the dads. We are listen, y'all to put
• 2:22:11
  fucking screaming at each other. Goddamn it, okay.
• 2:22:14
  Are you telling me that? He's gone crazy kids.
• 2:22:18
  All right, listen. Pull it back.
• 2:22:20
  We are going. We got 25 commit sin in today.
• 2:22:24
  11 of them are enrolling. Early. 11, a massive fucking
• 2:22:28
  number all God. He's still drinking the bourbon.
• 2:22:30
  Your drink. No more that you didn't get it.
• 2:22:33
  Time telling me how to edit this shit
• 2:22:56
  is coming in early, the kid from Thomas Williams Baylor.
• 2:23:03
  The local kid and the kid that just kinda days all coming in.
• 2:23:07
  Yes, I played against Lee Suggs. Yep.
• 2:23:10
  Lisa 11. Here.
• 2:23:13
  You turn this 11 of the 25. Guys are coming in early that
• 2:23:17
  signed today, 11 or more. That is really good.
• 2:23:23
  We need them, we do, we do need them and especially a guy like
• 2:23:27
  Lance Williams. And you think about green coming
• 2:23:30
  in and chance coming in because we do need even with getting the
• 2:23:35
  guys are going to talk about in the portal, you know?
• 2:23:40
  We still need wide receiver help.
• 2:23:42
  And I think those two young guys coming in, who already are
• 2:23:45
  showing a ton of flash who had a lot of potential who have
• 2:23:47
  already getting big offers, I mean, that's huge.
• 2:23:52
  Can I take over real quick? Can I think of a real?
• 2:23:55
  Can you calm the fuck down? I'm good, man, I'm great.
• 2:24:22
  You know this, let's talk about this though.
• 2:24:25
  So when we talk about this, we're talking about the line
• 2:24:29
  both on the defensive line and the offensive line, there's
• 2:24:33
  still some question marks, right.
• 2:24:34
  Do you think that's my biggest concern rolling into 2023?
• 2:24:38
  And that's something that we have addressed from a young guy
• 2:24:42
  perspective. But I don't know if we've
• 2:24:44
  addressed from a transfer portal perspective at this point yet
• 2:24:48
  and we're going to hit that in just a few minutes.
• 2:24:50
  So a lot of young guys coming in.
• 2:24:52
  In and let's hit this next with just the recruiting class of
• 2:24:55
  2023 from the high school level. The amount of Virginia kids, the
• 2:25:03
  Mountain Virginia kids. Oh y'all can start on me all
• 2:25:06
  night. Y'all don't know me.
• 2:25:07
  My whole life y'all fucking me all day long.
• 2:25:10
  Jimmy kids in general Curtis Curtis wait.
• 2:25:13
  Before we go into that, shouldn't we like everyone has
• 2:25:17
  so many responses over here of all the NFL players they play
• 2:25:21
  together. Ron Wallace goes up for kids
• 2:25:57
  because we play both something the ball because guess what?
• 2:25:59
  We were small fucking school and 24/7.
• 2:26:02
  He goes up her catch, he's never hit him so hard, he cracked his
• 2:26:06
  rib pass. That was that level of
• 2:26:13
  Excellence. A ton of folks here, play with a
• 2:26:16
  ton of guys. By the way, the league suck
• 2:26:19
  Story one of our buddies. Robbie played against Lee.
• 2:26:23
  One of our buddies in high school.
• 2:26:24
  His name's Jesse Rogers. He was a sinner undersized
• 2:26:28
  Center. But plays knows very undersized
• 2:26:31
  Center and I'm talking about undersized like 200 pounds.
• 2:26:33
  Center 200-pound knows Lisa has literally stepped on his face.
• 2:26:42
  Coolest story ever. Like, you know, that guy scored
• 2:26:44
  touchdowns a techie literally crushed my face and it was cool
• 2:26:47
  though. Did you are brother?
• 2:26:53
  That's a good. You worthwhile, you played in
• 2:26:55
  college, man. That's why you played in fucking
• 2:26:57
  College. Hold a hallway.
• 2:26:59
  Say this is our buddy in sending the fucking link, bring Robbie
• 2:27:04
  in here, and I fuck the bullshit, man.
• 2:27:06
  Robbie Cornell G not bring in rubbing from here.
• 2:27:11
  Um, Robbie coach Cornell, pal and Kentavious Street went to
• 2:27:17
  State one. Went to Clemson both in the NFL
• 2:27:19
  right now. We've y'all watch So y'all know
• 2:27:22
  y'all bring them on. Tally, you been quiet for the
• 2:27:24
  last few minutes, you just watching this cut up over here.
• 2:27:26
  So let me ask him, get drunk. I'm trying to make my eyes stop
• 2:27:30
  Crossing apple. Pie moonshine is a bitch.
• 2:27:51
  It's all right where you're just trying to feel your ass if you
• 2:27:59
  don't shut up from down, in Alabama, when you saw as many
• 2:28:07
  kids as we got this year, what does that tell you about where
• 2:28:11
  we're going Direction? Recruiting wise, Curtis porn
• 2:28:13
  scotch on the side like he fucking ate even looking in the
• 2:28:16
  fucking microphone while he's talking right hurts the boss.
• 2:28:20
  But to your point, Point. I mean, You for what Virginia
• 2:28:25
  Tech is, and what they, what we're trying to get back to.
• 2:28:29
  I mean, it makes you go back to prior to being hired and them
• 2:28:33
  saying, this is how we need to win.
• 2:28:38
  I've seen this done before and this is what we have to do.
• 2:28:41
  And he fucking emphasized that he, he put a plan out and he
• 2:28:46
  stuck to it, you know, for you know, people like myself dance.
• 2:28:51
  Are people that is in my area that may not pay attention to
• 2:28:55
  recruiting. They may not know like, a lot of
• 2:28:57
  the kids that we got and stuff like that or you maybe just
• 2:29:00
  looking at the top five and say, okay, well, that's what we need
• 2:29:03
  to go after sure, we'll get those kids.
• 2:29:06
  But as of now, I mean, if you're going to take a flyer on the
• 2:29:09
  kids, you might as well take a flyer on the kid from the house.
• 2:29:11
  So I think they did a good job with that and it again it just
• 2:29:16
  goes back to him being like genuine, what he says.
• 2:29:19
  He said we're going to recruit Blueprint, that's what he
• 2:29:23
  fucking did. Like he went after that, not
• 2:29:25
  only did he go after that. I mean, I don't know how
• 2:29:30
  Virginia does their their ranking there, some of the kids,
• 2:29:36
  you know, they're there. That I don't want to say that
• 2:29:40
  better than the rankings are but it's like you got a lot of state
• 2:29:44
  championships and in this recruiting class tally talking
• 2:29:49
  to right now. Yes, sir, even some of the kids
• 2:29:52
  like I know we're going to get into like personal favorites and
• 2:29:55
  stuff but some of these kids are much better than the ranking is
• 2:29:58
  and I know you might think. Oh everybody says that.
• 2:30:01
  But now if you if you pay attention to any recruiting or
• 2:30:04
  any college football, high school football, some of these
• 2:30:07
  kids that are being recruited Routed over that we recruited a
• 2:30:10
  much better than what the ranking is.
• 2:30:11
  So I think they did a good job of finding finding those guys,
• 2:30:15
  and finding those Virginia kids. So, I'm pretty stoked about that
• 2:30:21
  James. You got, it played in the state
• 2:30:24
  of Virginia, that has met a lot of these kids from Center
• 2:30:27
  Virginia, how in the southwest, and in the southwest and you got
• 2:30:30
  more sale Baylor coming in? He's coming in early.
• 2:30:33
  A stud that you're making in Road.
• 2:30:35
  There you go, we're making inroads.
• 2:30:38
  We're We're getting a lot of like top, you know, 10 to 20
• 2:30:42
  Talent, we have to have more top 10 talent in Virginia right now.
• 2:30:48
  It is pretty much just repairing bridges that have been burnt to
• 2:30:52
  the ground and Shadow pond. That's what we're doing right
• 2:30:57
  now. Yep, Seagull.
• 2:31:00
  You've said it time and time and time again about about Virginia
• 2:31:06
  about you know in general is you go in and you find the dogs and
• 2:31:12
  eventually after you find the dog you going to find a big
• 2:31:15
  pedigree, right? Well you find the dogs but you
• 2:31:18
  got to find the dogs in the areas that matter.
• 2:31:20
  And I think one of the things that we're doing well, is we're
• 2:31:23
  getting back in the programs that fucking matter in the
• 2:31:27
  state. And I think that is the thing
• 2:31:31
  that has me pumped going forward.
• 2:31:34
  We're back in Highland Springs. We got some little little bit of
• 2:31:39
  little bit of momentum in Veronica.
• 2:31:43
  We got some buzz in Mari. We got some buzz in Phoebus.
• 2:31:50
  Yeah, there's some things to talk about going forward with
• 2:31:56
  Virginia Tech and High School league Athletics, you have been
• 2:32:02
  picking up and going off. What Brian is saying as well, it
• 2:32:07
  shows you how much like relationships matter because I
• 2:32:12
  can sit, we get back in the, we getting back in the Highland
• 2:32:15
  Springs, you know. Ali Jennings was a Holly Springs
• 2:32:19
  kid. He wanted it wanted to come to
• 2:32:21
  Tech. And we didn't recruit him and he
• 2:32:24
  goes to West, Virginia to any transfers do BU, but now pride
• 2:32:28
  comes in fun, tell them that Highland Springs.
• 2:32:31
  We got four kids coming from Highland Springs.
• 2:32:34
  We got Lauren Johnson who's been saying, you know I'm sure he
• 2:32:38
  wasn't talking bad about the program said, the problem just
• 2:32:40
  didn't come see us. Yep.
• 2:32:42
  Well now that that's it. That is it right there tally.
• 2:32:47
  Well, they're back there. Now they're talking with those
• 2:32:49
  guys and then Ali Jennings, who is One of the top transfer.
• 2:32:54
  Andrade was he? He comes, he comes to Tech you
• 2:32:58
  damn right. Russian ships matter, man.
• 2:33:00
  You don't limit judgmental running to so much.
• 2:33:02
  Think about how this should happen last year.
• 2:33:04
  Go back in your memory banks, what did I man?
• 2:33:10
  We got we had fucking former players on staff.
• 2:33:13
  And Holland Springs was just another program to us and now
• 2:33:17
  they're five state titles deep but then let's let me.
• 2:33:20
  But let's take a step back down. Who's the fucking problem and
• 2:33:24
  was a huge problem. We had former players on staff
• 2:33:28
  at Highland Springs and they were just another fucking
• 2:33:32
  program though. The issue is, it's not unless
• 2:33:35
  you talk about Oscar Smith, what you mean, fucking the 757 most
• 2:33:41
  every year and Maury, winning the 757, most every fucking year
• 2:33:47
  and we're an afterthought. We'll go to Highland Springs.
• 2:33:50
  VA shit matters guys. More Johnson was one of those
• 2:33:54
  founders of fucking DBU. He was a goddamn safety on those
• 2:33:58
  early. Those 90s teams, go ahead,
• 2:34:00
  germs. I'm not saying anything.
• 2:34:05
  You know, I'm gonna say Samhain on a few things, tell me what
• 2:34:15
  you got. If those staff was here, Brendan
• 2:34:23
  Johnson wasn't coming to Virginia Tech.
• 2:34:25
  Nope. Yeah, I mean real talk, he's
• 2:34:28
  good. Why you South Carolina?
• 2:34:29
  Let's let's be real. This in the fucking name that
• 2:34:32
  we're talking about here. Ellen Johnson would be as South
• 2:34:35
  Carolina. If the old staff was still
• 2:34:38
  fucking here. Wasn't even looking at tick.
• 2:34:41
  Tick. What?
• 2:34:41
  Name? Looking their way now.
• 2:34:43
  Guess what? He's coming.
• 2:34:46
  And he's got a brother behind him.
• 2:34:48
  Yes. And he coming to Tech but You do
• 2:34:51
  this thing right man. You build those relationships,
• 2:34:53
  right? You know, you set yourself up
• 2:34:55
  for those top kids. Another thing I don't want to
• 2:34:58
  talk too much about about you know, what's going on in
• 2:35:01
  Colorado because fuck that's good.
• 2:35:04
  Now let's talk about what's good for Colorado.
• 2:35:14
  What Dionne went in and did and all I wished I would have went
• 2:35:17
  in and did that or if I was a coach, I would ever Cheering
• 2:35:21
  every situation is different. If Pride would have came in and
• 2:35:26
  did what Dion did with the amount of bridges that were
• 2:35:30
  already burned? He would have fucked himself.
• 2:35:33
  Yep. If he would have came in and
• 2:35:34
  told everybody, hey you're not good enough, hit the portal, get
• 2:35:37
  the fuck out. That would have been very bad
• 2:35:40
  for this staff. Yeah.
• 2:35:42
  I think he bit the bullet and said, hey, I'm going to give
• 2:35:44
  everybody a shot a shot. We're going to go through this
• 2:35:47
  year. I mean, I knew where we were and
• 2:35:49
  he knew where we want to be. Where is it?
• 2:35:52
  A Yadi on new Dion. Dion knows.
• 2:35:55
  How fucking big his dick is not say what it is.
• 2:36:00
  But yeah, those how big his dick is, all right.
• 2:36:03
  Oh, big so, I mean, he knows that he can go in there and say
• 2:36:08
  all right if you want to be a part of what we're doing, you're
• 2:36:11
  in if you don't fuck you but we don't we don't have the
• 2:36:16
  situation where you can say fuck you move on.
• 2:36:19
  Now we got two. Build some bridges.
• 2:36:22
  But yeah, that was some fucking Bridges.
• 2:36:24
  But to tallies Point tell you, just basically saying Pride came
• 2:36:27
  in and said, we everybody you got a shot.
• 2:36:30
  Tell me what the fuck you can do.
• 2:36:31
  Ya got it is it is December 2000.
• 2:36:35
  Few minutes. You got one year pain, if he
• 2:36:37
  would have came in with that same attitude, the deal on did
• 2:36:42
  you wouldn't have people? Like, I money.
• 2:36:45
  Chapman knowing, hey, I'm transferring, but I love,
• 2:36:49
  Virginia Tech. You know what, let's talk about
• 2:36:52
  amarna Chapman little bit because I love Armani Chapman,
• 2:36:56
  not saying, in that time Armani Chapman has given nothing but
• 2:37:01
  love to Virginia Tech. I know he is going and doing a
• 2:37:05
  different different router for him.
• 2:37:06
  Right? Best route for him, fuck you.
• 2:37:11
  But he but he is went out there and said nothing but love for
• 2:37:14
  Virginia Tech and big up everybody else in the process,
• 2:37:17
  right? Oh God.
• 2:37:19
  This is where you, this is a great place to be Motherfuckers
• 2:37:21
  dead to me? No, you would think you would
• 2:37:23
  think you should not be Jeremy. Jeremy, you, you are undermining
• 2:37:28
  everything I'm saying right now. You should?
• 2:37:30
  He should? Yes.
• 2:37:51
  Who are we playing when playing Carolina next year?
• 2:37:55
  That's, I know, that's what I'm saying, Carolina.
• 2:37:59
  Don't mean shit. Unless we're trying to play for
• 2:38:00
  the conference Championship. If we meet goddamn, we meet them
• 2:38:04
  in the conference Championship. I don't give a shit what he
• 2:38:08
  said. Damn, cop, shoutout, I stand by
• 2:38:12
  my statement. Real.
• 2:38:13
  The honest truth about that though is all of those guys who
• 2:38:18
  are leaving are basically giving shoutouts talking about gold,
• 2:38:21
  There, this is a ver loving on what the staff is doing,
• 2:38:25
  regardless of whether they're going to another step up or
• 2:38:28
  another step down anything in the middle.
• 2:38:31
  That's what is Big right now is huge.
• 2:38:34
  Is that Virginia Tech has some fucking momentum.
• 2:38:38
  They have some fucking juice on the trail.
• 2:38:41
  It's true. It's very, very true.
• 2:38:44
  I skip this because I got a freaking pull y'all boys back in
• 2:38:47
  because believe it or not, it's 11:37.
• 2:38:50
  We've been over two hours. Hours already and we got a
• 2:38:52
  couple more things to hit Jeremy, who's your favourite of
• 2:38:56
  this class. Are we talking full recruiting?
• 2:39:02
  Or we talking about transfer? No, just the recruiting class.
• 2:39:07
  Oh, sorry, my bad, my bad. Fuck you, Curtis.
• 2:39:13
  I think like that. Actually the offensive lineman
• 2:39:17
  which one? Why Kim Well, do you care Holly
• 2:39:24
  James? No, he laid him out.
• 2:39:27
  He's some of the old Lyman. Oh shit.
• 2:39:30
  Why men are you talking about the hammer?
• 2:39:34
  Yes, Hans. You just had all that shit
• 2:39:40
  prepared for everyone else that it's just like new recruits.
• 2:39:45
  You don't leave. I mean, yes, you took the
• 2:39:49
  gamble. Tell me what you're talking
• 2:39:50
  about. Right.
• 2:40:08
  Yeah, Caleb Woodson. You're right.
• 2:40:13
  That's that's what I'm gonna go with.
• 2:40:15
  What's it is the dude, from VA, 63 200 pounds.
• 2:40:21
  Playing what linebacker or safety?
• 2:40:24
  He's playing Sam Sam. You don't be sad like that Hill.
• 2:40:34
  Am I mispronounced against label it right?
• 2:40:38
  Ladies cannot, mmm. They are those.
• 2:40:44
  What the fuck? I don't even pronounce.
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  This guy's name. He's a big ass.
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  He's a big ass offense of lineman from Yes, that's my
• 2:40:57
  favorite. Yes.
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  Sweet. Wonderful.
• 2:41:27
  At first better to fuck himself a, a seagull.
• 2:41:31
  You going to edit this tomorrow? Maybe it's live.
• 2:41:38
  It is, this is why you come here live.
• 2:41:40
  We're still at sitting like that.
• 2:41:42
  But 20 people dropping us. But for real, the favorite of
• 2:41:44
  this class for me, I want to go with one that was just kind of
• 2:41:52
  know. I got to be real.
• 2:41:53
  I think Brendan Johnson is my favorite in this class because
• 2:41:56
  cuz I feel like this is the kid that's going to come in and
• 2:41:58
  actually change the program because you look at him Pop's
• 2:42:02
  played here, pops is good. Here pops is down, 15 state
• 2:42:05
  titles, he's going to come in here.
• 2:42:07
  He's gonna set this down expectation, I Gotta Feeling
• 2:42:10
  breathless when probably getting a few fights with people, but I
• 2:42:13
  think brother is going to be a damn, good strong safety.
• 2:42:16
  I mean, Brennan's gonna break some heads and I think braylon's
• 2:42:19
  that kid, there's gonna be kids from the r-va.
• 2:42:22
  There's gonna be kids just up the street here where I live
• 2:42:25
  Godwin, There will be kids just down the street from where Brian
• 2:42:29
  lives and like Hanover. And it's cool.
• 2:42:33
  Like Patrick Henry, that's a Brendan Johnson went there and
• 2:42:37
  he made something of himself. And then I think there's gonna
• 2:42:41
  be kids from the 75 that eventually start looking at
• 2:42:44
  Highland Springs. What Highland Springs have done?
• 2:42:47
  They've done with the kids from Sam.
• 2:42:49
  Like Sam kids from the Mechanicsville earlier.
• 2:42:53
  Yeah Sam Sam, Sam and Austin can Sam and I do with fucking same
• 2:43:03
  as doing. So you talk about a god Tech,
• 2:43:06
  that's building a program up there.
• 2:43:09
  I think Braille And Johnson is my favorite recruit from the
• 2:43:11
  staff or from. Okay, is a fucking boss.
• 2:43:16
  We need his brother too. Yeah, for real.
• 2:43:20
  So once even let's see what they're doing though, for real,
• 2:43:25
  for real for, with the Fucking sober ass motherfuckers that I
• 2:43:38
  see the bullet that I need to send that link.
• 2:43:46
  I will, who's your favorite recruit from this class right
• 2:43:50
  now from this class from this class.
• 2:43:55
  Braylon right onto. But I think the reason why we
• 2:44:00
  sit here and say that is did y'all watch, did y'all tally in
• 2:44:05
  Germany's Josie? The bud, tweet today.
• 2:44:07
  The tweet that went out with Bud.
• 2:44:08
  Talking about that today. Yeah, what did he say?
• 2:44:12
  Basically, like, dude, I coach, you're dead.
• 2:44:13
  You're dead. Was here when we started this,
• 2:44:16
  it was that emotion of, like you knew.
• 2:44:20
  Brain was one of the OG dogs. Oh, yeah.
• 2:44:23
  Now. It's Bud there.
• 2:44:25
  Talking to him. Handing off to pry, who prowl
• 2:44:28
  was one of those. Oh, ggas, who sat there and
• 2:44:32
  grinded his fucking ass off for bud and them in 95, 96 97.
• 2:44:37
  When we were building this shit. When we were, I said back, and
• 2:44:40
  just think we were, we were puppies.
• 2:44:44
  Jeremy, you were a young buck. I was in my, we me, and Brian
• 2:44:47
  will work 12, 11 years old, watching, Tech watch when the
• 2:44:50
  Sugar Bowl orange out there playing and you get that kids,
• 2:44:54
  you get that. Ask kid, he commits to you and
• 2:44:58
  it's like, yeah, I made him good.
• 2:45:00
  He is now turned a program into a freaking monster in the state.
• 2:45:04
  His son is coming here to play for a guy that G8 under me and
• 2:45:08
  you sit here and it's like this whole it's like everything's
• 2:45:11
  like coming together, right? And I think braylon's because I
• 2:45:17
  think Braylon has a freaking ton of influence, I think there's
• 2:45:20
  going to be kids here in a few years ago up to visit Braylon
• 2:45:24
  and Braille Owens going to have four rings on his damn finger
• 2:45:26
  from state championships and my hope to God.
• 2:45:29
  He puts a damn ACC Championship on that phone and he says, I
• 2:45:33
  want these in high school, I wasn't this attack.
• 2:45:36
  And then even when even to your point is well, when we talk
• 2:45:41
  about how many state champions that we got out of the high
• 2:45:47
  school kids when we talk about learning how to win, I mean,
• 2:45:51
  fuck Indian winners and that's how you win.
• 2:45:54
  Bringing winners in your brain leadership in based on the time
• 2:46:00
  what they say we have like twenty twenty.
• 2:46:01
  One of those kids was like, team captains, 21 of the 21 of the
• 2:46:05
  24th were team captains. Like, I know we bullshit, we
• 2:46:09
  won't dogs, but you won't cap, you know what capsule?
• 2:46:12
  Do a lot of captains are dogs. Yeah, funny glasses are dogs as
• 2:46:17
  motherfuckers. See there's racing repair happen
• 2:46:20
  to know two and I'm sure you slap the fuck out of some people
• 2:46:22
  and said straight up fucking Yeah.
• 2:46:24
  Yeah. You got a fucking slap, some
• 2:46:27
  guys, out of the motherfucking like that.
• 2:46:28
  You know what? You're right.
• 2:46:29
  Let's hit real quick. Let's go to the portal.
• 2:46:34
  Could we have ever dreamed? We hit the for, like we had
• 2:46:36
  before. When we heard Ali Jennings is
• 2:46:40
  Gallo. He dancing.
• 2:46:42
  And then it's like your name's. Yes, nice.
• 2:46:45
  That's a lie. Jenna's burned is actually.
• 2:46:47
  AA Li jun's last few years over to you.
• 2:46:49
  You played him. He burned your ass for yards.
• 2:46:52
  Then we heard this like a motherfucker man.
• 2:46:54
  Fucking catchiest Dorian. Deep that fucked us in the
• 2:46:57
  fucking fucked us. Right through the heart then you
• 2:47:00
  get drones. And a lot of people are like
• 2:47:02
  well who the hell is this kid? Y'all went on the boards.
• 2:47:06
  Will you read people like Baylor was crushed and they thought
• 2:47:09
  they were and get the kiddos on like all this kid right here is
• 2:47:12
  come with us. We're okay, we're gonna be okay.
• 2:47:14
  That kid went to Oregon today. He just gutted them because they
• 2:47:18
  thought they had drones. They thought they had to get
• 2:47:20
  going to Oregon. They're gutted.
• 2:47:21
  They thought they had a fucking midpoint and they didn't Ain't
• 2:47:24
  they didn't? They just got fucked because
• 2:47:26
  drones is coming here. Running the are running the
• 2:47:28
  frickin RPO spread and then the two today without a spread for
• 2:47:33
  real not for real fuck. So we were talking about
• 2:47:37
  Moorhead going into the season. We did we don't we saw more play
• 2:47:43
  action running game, deep deep shots and shit.
• 2:47:48
  But what we really talking about going into the 2023 season is
• 2:47:53
  the fucking Warhead. Ed system.
• 2:47:56
  So, let's talk about that a little bit.
• 2:47:59
  Well, let's talk about, let's talk about the two guys that are
• 2:48:01
  gonna be on the outside for me, that's belting and Jennings.
• 2:48:05
  And if drones wins this job coming out, he will he will
• 2:48:11
  write it, y'all 1221 2022. He gonna win it.
• 2:48:17
  He went in it. If drones wins this and we go to
• 2:48:20
  that system, he is an he and might be the perfect specimen
• 2:48:24
  for an RPO spread because of His athleticism and his arm Jeremy.
• 2:48:31
  Tell me what you got. That was a deep breath, Gervin,
• 2:48:34
  big fucking side. When I hope that's what we're
• 2:48:36
  doing. It's literally exactly what we
• 2:48:40
  want, right? Yeah.
• 2:48:42
  Get us some shit. Right.
• 2:48:46
  What else do you have to say about it?
• 2:48:48
  It's not much. We're going to get him.
• 2:48:50
  He's gonna come in, and we're going to have this.
• 2:48:53
  But if he underperforms. They will eat him.
• 2:48:59
  Yeah, they will are fainted earlier one if he doesn't have
• 2:49:04
  it, it's gonna be ugly but if he agreed with you, so go, we have
• 2:49:18
  heard him to that first year because he may come in and be
• 2:49:22
  awesome. What do you say that Ali?
• 2:49:25
  I was just saying to go to Curtis is, probably next point,
• 2:49:27
  when we're talking, when we're talking transfer guys, coming in
• 2:49:34
  drones is great to have. We don't know, 100% what he's
• 2:49:40
  going to do. We don't know if he's going to
• 2:49:41
  win the job, but at least, if he doesn't win the job, you have
• 2:49:45
  somebody. That's legit.
• 2:49:46
  Pushing, whoever does win the job and then besides that, we
• 2:49:50
  kind of know what? We're getting out of Jennings
• 2:49:53
  Because we've seen them, but my favorite Was probably Felton
• 2:49:58
  because it's fucking point gives us.
• 2:50:01
  He gives if he can come because Felton reminds me, a lot of
• 2:50:06
  Damon Hazelton. You know, Hazelton was at at
• 2:50:09
  Ball State, goddamn, you're right.
• 2:50:11
  He comes in, he comes in and he gives us the production that he
• 2:50:15
  does Felton seems to be that same guy.
• 2:50:19
  I feel like Caleb Smith gave us what he could give us but we
• 2:50:24
  didn't have anybody going. Second we didn't have a second
• 2:50:28
  receiver. Yeah, be like okay well we can't
• 2:50:31
  take any pressure off of him because all we had was tight
• 2:50:34
  ends for me. I feel like Feldon come in.
• 2:50:38
  If felting and come in and give us what Katelyn Smith gave us
• 2:50:42
  this year. I think we'll be fine.
• 2:50:43
  We are going to be found. We're going to be found goddamn
• 2:50:46
  tally. Fuck, speaking, Spanish.
• 2:50:48
  If he can give if he can give us if he can give us.
• 2:50:51
  Six hundred yards 600 plus they asked the motherfucker All
• 2:50:56
  right, there he Isabel right. There is gonna replace what
• 2:51:00
  Kayla Smith gave us this year and then Ali Jennings is going
• 2:51:04
  to be that dude. And then drones is going to be a
• 2:51:07
  guy that can like give us a high ceiling for a quarterback that
• 2:51:14
  we're looking for. Stop met Neil just made a great
• 2:51:17
  Point here. Yes, granny all these of the
• 2:51:20
  Donna, but of the four guys that we've recruited of the four
• 2:51:24
  guys. We've recruited Ali Jennings is
• 2:51:27
  going after this year you still get Felton.
• 2:51:31
  Drones is a second and then we ain't talked about Varner bar
• 2:51:35
  was a freaking First Team, all League East AAC defensive end up
• 2:51:39
  in Tempo. He had seven and a half sacks as
• 2:51:41
  you had 12 and a half thousand lost 44.
• 2:51:43
  Let's talk about a chubby that I've got it for Varner.
• 2:51:48
  Let's talk about that. Well let's just move on with
• 2:51:50
  that. We worry about.
• 2:51:51
  Oh my God, we've got it really hard and we got it.
• 2:51:55
  And then all of a sudden Barnacle Miss today, where
• 2:51:58
  didn't seem like he was in all of a sudden it's we thought the
• 2:52:02
  list Frank was going to be the motherfucker but it wasn't.
• 2:52:06
  It wasn't that damn foot injury that we that we've heard about
• 2:52:10
  is not there. So he's in and then all of a
• 2:52:14
  sudden you know, he is an animal.
• 2:52:19
  He's a Maury kid, he's partnering so happy, he's
• 2:52:22
  probably one of those kids ten years ago early 2000's, early
• 2:52:26
  2010's. Frank takes?
• 2:52:29
  We remember how many guys that Frank took that has some shit
• 2:52:32
  like this, right? Yeah.
• 2:52:34
  In the in the late 2000s and early 2010's.
• 2:52:37
  Yeah, you know, Frank tell me, what do you say?
• 2:52:40
  Tell me what? She actually told me, he would
• 2:52:43
  go into people's excellent, like homes and he would Go in and
• 2:52:51
  straight up Jazz. What was going on in their homes
• 2:52:54
  and how he could manage it and even if they were just like wild
• 2:53:00
  out of control he was just like okay I can manage this or that
• 2:53:06
  as far as going in. Frank rap wasn't 75 and said I
• 2:53:10
  this is cool. We got.
• 2:53:13
  Yes, he might we got this. Well, we already actually went
• 2:53:17
  in there and he's just like of going into Portsmouth.
• 2:53:43
  All of that shit and saying, let's talk about what you can do
• 2:53:47
  for us for Virginia Tech. Now, he had no fear other
• 2:53:55
  bullshit, it was about what can you do for Virginia Tech and how
• 2:54:00
  we can help you in your goals? Yes, Frank actually did this
• 2:54:05
  entire thing where he went in and he was just like I'm going
• 2:54:09
  to meet your family. I'm going to do all this.
• 2:54:11
  How can I help you? How can I do all this?
• 2:54:14
  That's what mate, Frank Beamer, so fucking good.
• 2:54:18
  Frank was that dude? Because he understood how to
• 2:54:22
  understand the landscape of Virginia recruiting, and I hope
• 2:54:29
  it's more, like this, that the interaction tonight we had.
• 2:54:32
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• 2:54:36
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• 2:54:38
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